endgame-chat-w7🐟

[icy tundra]

if you are research level 49 push sushi to get to east wind, if you are lower do whatever you want

[waxen kernel]

my amber gain shot up from 8T to 45T after getting my first 2 grand discoveries, is it bugged or is that amber from GD really op?

[gusty moss]

Research 43, thank you tho 🙂

[icy tundra]

grand discovery is very big for pow and amber

[merry river]

they are true multis so it is great

[icy tundra]

yeah you can progress up to sushi lvl 23 max but the real progress is when you get the east wind upgrade

[upper karma]

depends on your goal, buck gen is based off going for highest tier and fuel gens based off collective tiers on board

[boreal hedge]

Anyone know the page requirements for chapter 5 and 6?

[gusty moss]

Is the upgrade based on what tiers you have for buck generation based on each individual level sushi on the board or unlocked sushi

[ancient aurora]

alright i just went back to the low tiers and got like 15 perfectos lol thank you

[gusty moss]

I think it's the former but I have been known to be giga dumb

[upper karma]

on board

[gusty moss]

Bet, overnight/afk leave it 1 of each and let it go, fuel cap is ~25m and fuel gen is ~7m

Will be best for both worlds

[river cosmos]

Genuinely

[river cosmos]

GD op

[merry river]

oh thank god....when you fall get a click, come back up and it is gone

[minor helm]

do I keep pushing for more amber or is that a stopping point you think

have a rope rn and cant break the last item in glitter

previous vs what I have rn

[merry river]

usually depends on if I am seeing any resists on other types of rocks besides the last one. However, you can get screw by having the hole under the last rock type and lose rope multi

[icy tundra]

yeah you should be safe to leave

[mortal geyser]

do u break all last item type in a depth when doing grand discovery?

[arctic ermine]

yeah i just auto spelunk with full floor clear

[mortal geyser]

ok ty

wait ppl auto nowadays?

[upper karma]

hmm

[minor helm]

bit better

[icy tundra]

if you can't bother going through 2k stam per character you will

[mortal geyser]

ic

[robust quiver]

Can anyone send me a pic with the bonuses from the last boss in spelunking

[velvet summit]

Dang that's a good bonus

[severe cove]

guys wheres sushi cant see it

[arctic ermine]

10 million points for someone who knows what this is for

[merry river]

your estimate when patch is?

[frozen hollow]

clearly it's for salts

[icy tundra]

end of your insight grind?

[arctic ermine]

j3

think lower worlds

[icy tundra]

Oh no it's for the sailing trade rotation right?

[edgy grove]

is that the quest about coming back after certain amount of time?

[arctic ermine]

yeah but which one !

[frozen hollow]

yay, yay, yippee, yay

[minor helm]

is potion rec for caves 1-4 the same just minus the red potion for GD's?

[frozen hollow]

swap red for shadow if you don't need the pow

[edgy grove]

10 hours

[minor helm]

can you full auto or will it use the GD potion to soon

[merry river]

did that make another red slot?

[frozen hollow]

yep

[merry river]

NICE!!

[frozen hollow]

now I just need to hit the spelunking one

[merry river]

that is the only one I have gotten from there so far

[upper karma]

[icy tundra]

you know you will get the legend talent first

[frozen hollow]

I do...

[merry river]

hear me out we just captain planet our artifacts, make one museum

[upper karma]

very wow

[rotund mantle]

frosty flakes?

[arctic ermine]

u win!

[rotund mantle]

i lit did that quest today xD

[frozen hollow]

the worst part is that the quest chain only gets worse as you keep going

like ~22 hours is diabolical

[icy tundra]

worst part is you need to be precisly on time

[rotund mantle]

yea im that rn and its annoying cuz minr kept desyncing for the least quests

[frozen hollow]

there's like 4 minutes leeway

[frozen hollow]

cloudsave before starting and before claiming

[arctic ermine]

3*

[icy tundra]

that's not a lot when you have to wait 20h50 if you mess up

[meager pebble]

he really should remove that quest....or make it so we can use candy

[frozen hollow]

you can candy, just none of the candies hit those timers

🤔 maybe the weird candy can work

[meager pebble]

thats what i mean

[shy quest]

is there a new update today?

[rotund mantle]

js make specific tine candys for these quests

[meager pebble]

change the timers so it aligns with candy

[rotund mantle]

😭🙏

[frozen hollow]

yet another day of not hitting the right stamps

[frozen hollow]

maybe

[upper karma]

( best stamp for main stat in the game, cracked when exalted )

[minor helm]

I may have neglected getting GD's, just went from 2 on cave 1 to having 8

[frozen hollow]

sure but it's not crystalin :/

[meager pebble]

tbh...those stamps might have a good point now with the button....

[upper karma]

just had an inventory or statues turn into nothing after turning on cluster - fkn Uge

[frozen hollow]

this is getting expensive..

[meager pebble]

still cheap

[frozen hollow]

I get like 100k/hr outside of daily

[teal phoenix]

I thought 405% cluster is the basic meta

[meager pebble]

im at 410% atm

might go higher with frogs

[upper karma]

depends on hourly, but its definitely a later goal

[frozen hollow]

still no 54 p :/

[mossy saffron]

a white screen a day keeps the sushi away

[frozen hollow]

did hit 36 and 33 today though so I won't complain

[upper karma]

Uge

[frozen hollow]

33 actualy had a decent impact on my bucks/hr so yeah

36 is cosmetic

[icy tundra]

I made my sushi board pretty and now I'm mad i'm missing a milktoast slot

[frozen hollow]

just buy it they're free

[brisk robin]

When do you think the third part of World 7 will come

[upper karma]

I couldnt figure out how to make my board look clean, went insane for an hour, and gave up

[frozen hollow]

a few months from now

I mean my board is largely clean

[mossy saffron]

end of summer

[icy tundra]

I need like 100 hour of my current gain to get there I might need to do a knowledge grind

[brisk robin]

The longer it takes the better for me to chatch up.

[frozen hollow]

there's just 4 reds top right of my storage that are meant to be in the chains to signify the outputs and I don't have the 8th cold slot yet but other than that it's largely clean

[mossy saffron]

these 3 prob will be future weekyl updates and then we works on p3

[steady glade]

i'm no longer making any bucks on my sushi, what i wrong?

[icy tundra]

@meager pebble

[brisk robin]

More research sytems like sushi and minehead.

[frozen hollow]

so like a day?
also how bad is your bucks/hr 🤔 I got that way before I got saffron

[mossy saffron]

you didnt buy the upgrade that unlovks sushie ?

[upper karma]

would assume its the lack of collective sushi

[frozen hollow]

🤔 I believe I got it around 4 54's

And I believe dino has a better acc than me

[icy tundra]

3e28, I'm kinda slacking on the upgrade that boost bucks tho, I invested most into fuel gen

[frozen hollow]

so should just be making more bucks than I did

[upper karma]

not sure what account has to do with sushi

[frozen hollow]

button

and atoms

ig the research upgrade also but that's more of a mental illness difference

[upper karma]

I guess lmao

[frozen hollow]

I am making significantly less bucks than a lot of people who are a bit behind in 54's solely because my atom is low and my button is mid

[icy tundra]

I didn't buy the egroll pack and I'm behind on research too so I guess that's where I'm behind

[upper karma]

does atom actually do that much? I kinda ignored it

[icy tundra]

and also my max atom is 50

[frozen hollow]

Yeah it's a mult to bucks

[upper karma]

eh

[frozen hollow]

And I currently need 3 instas to get to the next button bucks :/

and I don't have the button multi 😭

[icy tundra]

I need 5.5k droprate for next button 💀 then I need to uneglect summoning

and after that I will need research 56 to unlock insta skip

[carmine hollow]

Are we using AC or DK to farm frogs?

[upper karma]

lil confused though, E28s not bad what are you going for that takes 100 hours?

[frozen hollow]

does the minehead optimizer have optimized upgrades?

[frozen hollow]

dk???

[icy tundra]

last milktoast slot is e30

[upper karma]

you run AC to stack DR multi on the map, and farming the statues with DK

ah I see

[carmine hollow]

thx somebody posted about it yesterday very confusingly, this makes more sense

[upper karma]

kinda annoying that the op buck gen wont happen till after button task

[frozen hollow]

you can get e32 with just the saffron mult

I make 1-2 e32 a day with it

[violet acorn]

Guys, how much power is needed to take down Glitter End boss? i pushed over 160 floors, but in floor 100 against him i wasn't able to even hit him once. (My starting power is 30QQQ with no elixirs)

[frozen hollow]

pins lategame spelunking

[violet acorn]

oh thank u, sorry for useless text then

[icy tundra]

make sure you are using the correct elixir build and also remember it's rng so might have to try multiple times

[merry river]

you have enough power, it just takes a ton of time and stam. Also use the pow elixers red and green

[upper karma]

E32 from E28?

[frozen hollow]

only use one of the red

[frozen hollow]

make more 54's :/

[sturdy obsidian]

Good evening!

[frozen hollow]

I was at like 1.8e30 before the perfecto today

[frozen hollow]

suspiciously posts the same image again 🤔

[upper karma]

im content

[coral quail]

Is 257QQQ spelunking pow enough for the scoutpost boss?

[frozen hollow]

maybe I'm tweaking but I could've sworn you posted this like 8 ish hours ago

[sturdy obsidian]

Yeah! I wanted to share it again! as I got it right before sleeping.

[upper karma]

Uge

[sturdy obsidian]

I hope that's okay :x

[frozen hollow]

who is this person and why have I blocked them 🤔

[finite granite]

Are there any good breakpoints for lore chapters? or aims that you should push towards? I was slacking a lot on them so I feel like I'm quite behind there.

[tawny nova]

I just filled my red slots and called it a day

[frozen hollow]

it is

[frozen hollow]

hourly gains *3 8 times is often the optimal

[icy tundra]

I do whatever vman is getting me/8

[upper karma]

good question

[frozen hollow]

I imagine it's from some other discord tbh but we only share the ie discord so who knows

I didn't leave a note so who knows
welcome back to the realm of the living

[upper karma]

hes been in pet trading a lot, maybe you got spammed in dms or somethin lmao

[frozen hollow]

Ohhh

maybe he was one of the people making absurdly large color coded texts in bold

doesn't look like it

[sturdy obsidian]

should I feed more the Double Cluster? Or maybe is time to feed True Zen a bit 😂

[upper karma]

405%s big but takes a lot of effort

[minor helm]

the % research xp in this one doesnt actually increase xp?

[upper karma]

if you're not doing div right now, then cluster %s probably best to focus, if statue merit won then that wouldve been better but apparently people need MORE CANDIES

[frozen hollow]

where patch lava

[shell barn]

Just got to w7 last night, rate the gallery that I already have

[sturdy obsidian]

Well, I'm doing some divinity right now as I need to get god rank lvls for the goddamn XP Gain

[sour verge]

New arrival/10

[upper karma]

might want to pump lamp a lil more then

[sour verge]

Also missing Heroic Spirit which is extremely important

[upper karma]

today hopefully

better not be sunday

[frozen hollow]

I'd like to use my points in here lava..

[sturdy obsidian]

Pls today. I need to know in what Lava wants us to spend these Research Points x)

I'm holding the skip button upgrade because of this

[dull lily]

same

[icy tundra]

my summoning is so neglected i'm investing into matching scims

[sturdy obsidian]

AT LEAST 1 RESEARCH POINT. I GOT TWO LAVA.

[frozen hollow]

doubt I'm getting 2 points before patch..

[icy tundra]

keep the two we never know

[pliant sail]

Why cant i get to w6 with arcanist? Killed all abominations

[sour verge]

He's gonna delay the patch just for you

[icy tundra]

[frozen hollow]

I have my grid spread enough that I am almost guaranteed access to the new node

oh that timer was with green in wrong place because I did minehead

[icy tundra]

arcanist need to kill the world boss

[solar crescent]

i just hope 1 point is enough to got to the grid

[pliant sail]

Ahhh forgot

[frozen hollow]

abominations?
arcanist? what kind of crossover episode is this

[icy tundra]

the death wind cultist is the new masterclass

[pliant sail]

Im playing activeon

[icy tundra]

can't wait to claim my active time in activeon

[frozen hollow]

anyways back to active clicking bubbles to 99% :)

[icy tundra]

kinda regret not candy clicking for the smithing ones

[frozen hollow]

the smithing, trapping, salt and soul ones I am uhh not doing :)

[sturdy obsidian]

WOOHOO! (Is not the same screenshot again @frozen hollow !)

[frozen hollow]

woah

[icy tundra]

traping is fineish if you just do 20 minutes claim

[frozen hollow]

I also get to exp farm my ac while doing the cc'ing

[icy tundra]

but yeah soul never again

[frozen hollow]

I don't want to redo my traps....

[sour verge]

what % are you guys unlocking Transcendents with? I'm genuinely wondering if I'm doing something wrong because it's been a week and I still haven't unlocked Fury

[icy tundra]

I just have 2 traps on 9 characters that are for critters and I just reset those

[sour verge]

I moreso meant the chests themselves.

[shut depot]

I hope 0 points is enough

[sturdy obsidian]

I'm on Lanterns artifacts rn

[frozen hollow]

don't really want to deal with reseting this

[frozen hollow]

0.01% is reasonable

[upper karma]

hmm

[icy tundra]

you are clearly more dedicated than me

[frozen hollow]

I get an artifact every few hours I remember to claim chests at with 0.01%

[sour verge]

I'm getting 0.02~0.07% chests 🥀 ig just unlucky instead of fucking something up

[frozen hollow]

every hour go claim chests and swap between your characters for another chest claim

[brisk robin]

Why does the progress after you reach World 7 slow down so much. I think it's the lack of guides or something.

[frozen hollow]

!review

[dense cedar]

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[sour verge]

It's like...just give it to me man 🥀

[merry river]

it is current content. all previous worlds were slow and had high locks/portal requirements. They all get toned down when the new world is released

[plush bane]

cuz research/spelunking are slow, also the HP scaling is extremely high to compete with endgame dmg

[frozen hollow]

I don't think this is worth going for 50/50 of +1 legend talent / spelunking..

[upper karma]

I tried going back for other artis, saw .5%, didnt hit it after 20 sailing cycles and never went back lmao

[upper karma]

what else would you go for

[frozen hollow]

my maw is like equal

[upper karma]

mm fair enough

[frozen hollow]

I don't think I'm at speed cap for maw....

[sonic flower]

woahhh this was close

[sturdy obsidian]

The Sailing upgrade from research, is it very good? I have 2 Points there, but I didn't pay attention if the multiplier was very good or not.

[brisk robin]

The difference in HP from the first mob of World 6 and the last, the samurais is the same as the first mob and the fourth of World 7.

[solid drift]

today should be update right?

[sour verge]

Out of curiosity what chest rarity do you guys go for? Maybe this is where I'm fucking it up. I have it set at this since I'm currently doing 20 hour claims

[icy tundra]

Is no unending loot search (sb talent) still the play for artifacts? or we keep it on

[sour verge]

I keep it off.

[upper karma]

lowest since they all combine anyways

[frozen hollow]

now I might be wrong but uhhh this ship should not hit min but is 🤔

[craggy parrot]

whats best for zenith?

[upper karma]

map to farm them? or upgrade to focus

[craggy parrot]

yes

[sour verge]

A or B?
"yes"

[craggy parrot]

A and B thus "yes"

[sour verge]

Frogs is the new meta with a respawn config.
Otherwise just continue hitting rams like all the oldschool chads still do

[upper karma]

you're on your own gang

[frozen hollow]

ehh hourly claims are still so fine for maw for me ig

[craggy parrot]

is that with AC boosted on frogs?

[brisk robin]

Is a new gem bird coming the next update?

[sour verge]

Some say frogs is superior even without the AC boost but people do grind the boost

[frozen hollow]

if your setup is at like 4.3% respawn you have better frogs than rams

[craggy parrot]

whats the respawn setup?

[sour verge]

Fuck frogs, all my homies hate frogs

[upper karma]

assuming you have required stats, a base frogs is indeed better then a buffed rams

[icy tundra]

Nah I just think the fellow engineer hat is becoming a prenium hat tho

or maybe we are getting world -1

[sour verge]

The usual mob respawn gear, keychains and chips

[frozen hollow]

saw someone talk about a world prestige system which would be cool

[upper karma]

11th toon

[sour verge]

I think there's a guide on this somewhere in this channel or #endgame-gen-chat

[brisk robin]

New maps in World 1. More systems for the earlier worlds would be cool.

[sour verge]

World boss Prestige system

[icy tundra]

11th toon locked behind research would be criminal but would justify why we need to save a point

[sour verge]

@craggy parrot

[upper karma]

id assume the research point is the mine removal visual, and the bird is just a hint at +1 toon

[sour verge]

I wonder why he specifically mentioned the w2 portal

[frozen hollow]

ehh I imagine equinox stuff will be locked behind research..

[upper karma]

huh I never really looked into that part

[brisk robin]

I think a autumn theme would be cool. Some addition to World 1 instead of making a completely new world. I think more systems will be needed like the obols or basketball like systems.

[sturdy obsidian]

A new toon, I don't know if I should be excited or not

[sour verge]

yea that, the portal to w2 and not the w2 portal

[upper karma]

That.. would be confusing considering how equinox works, but definitely possible

[ebon aspen]

I think its finally time, I have to do the giant leek constellation...

[frozen hollow]

I'm imagining the next challenges are just locked behind the research :/

[icy tundra]

An obol system rework would be pretty huge but people will complain because it's not new content

[upper karma]

im just glad I finally get to use equinox upgrades

[sour verge]

I used my equinox charge an hour ago

[ebon aspen]

trust the rng

[upper karma]

hope you're on AC or DK

[icy tundra]

bro will have to wait for his weekly reset

[ebon aspen]

AC

[upper karma]

whats your charge time

[sour verge]

Like a day or so

[upper karma]

pfffffffffff

[sour verge]

i know

[upper karma]

geezus 😭

[sour verge]

it's tough down here for the AC neglecters

[upper karma]

I just ignored majority of the upgrades

[sour verge]

Matching Scims feels too good to ignore atp

[heady tusk]

how much do i upgrade the double cluster

[icy tundra]

I maxed the nugget one... I need to uneglect summoning

[brisk robin]

I mean something new like the statues and obols systems that you need to collect for earlier worlds. A new main system. And more content and NPC, maybe lore for the earlier worlds.

[sour verge]

You'll be constantly pushing it throughout time. Right now there's no stopping point for you, that comes later on.

[upper karma]

I hate nugget and slow roast seems kinda.. useless.. ngl

[sturdy obsidian]

as much as you can.

[heady tusk]

shouldnt i also upgrade other things?

[icy tundra]

got slow roast to 20% and called it a day

[upper karma]

Double Cluster breakpoints are 105%/205%/305%/405% so do whatever your hourly lets you

[sturdy obsidian]

you can upgrade other things with the 'leftover' points that are left when you upgrade the doube cluster 😄

[sour verge]

You'll be focusing on pretty much everything, with some of those upgrades having a lower priority than others. If you're struggling to grind clusters then you gotta go improve your DR and statue drop chance first

[heady tusk]

im not struggling much, i got like 125 in 8 hours with 5% double cluster/ 0% i forgot

ill get better as i do it more often

i guess

[sour verge]

Yeah you're gonna be upgrading double clusters for a while to start off with. 125 in 8 hours is a paltry amount. What DR have you got?

[heady tusk]

195.77x

[frozen hollow]

you have like no double cluster and like 10x droprate what?

[safe jungle]

na, you need more dr or double statue drops

[sturdy obsidian]

Just for your vis, costs scales quite a lot

[heady tusk]

yea i had no double cluster

[frozen hollow]

😭

[upper karma]

at that DR I wouldnt do clusters outside of daily reset tbh

[sour verge]

When I started doing them at 200x~ it felt like a sluggish grind. You're gonna need to juice your DR up by any means necessary before you invest time into it. Make sure you also grind AC multi on whichever map you're grinding clusters on.

[sturdy obsidian]

@heady tusk don't be in a hurry. There are features that are not meant to be profitable at the moment you unlock them. Keep backtracking imo.

[true gull]

are 600 lab lvls enough for weekly boss?

[heady tusk]

i got 5 skulls with levels 200/300 so yes

if thats what you mean

[true gull]

i didnt

im also getting peeps up to lvl 100 cooking

[upper karma]

dam these recent trophy drops man

[icy tundra]

I still need to candy my digits for weekly boss 💀

[true gull]

i just did, 10B+ on each mob

except for berserk

nope

[icy tundra]

style points

[frozen hollow]

next boss rotation is crazy

[icy tundra]

auto off

[pliant sail]

You genuinely think this man will create lore for previous worlds when he’s more worried about creating a new pack every week that you can buy?

[true gull]

there is a reason to push to wave 100 as fast as possible

[sturdy obsidian]

🤷‍♂️

[true gull]

that will take weeks of constant running just to reach wave 400

[frozen hollow]

🤔 can the weekly boss hit kapow statues as a reward actually?

[rigid plover]

Does anyone know why I don't get any bucks from sushi anymore ? Only when I use the pay item I get them

[sour verge]

.

[frozen hollow]

research j3

[icy tundra]

It did at some point

[true gull]

i assume you were afk?

[rigid plover]

When I'm active and when I'm afk

[upper karma]

ITs not updating cooking speed

[upper karma]

only possible on mobile

[frozen hollow]

🤔 only 12k points for 1m statues

[true gull]

does it happen when youre looking at sushi?

[upper karma]

next boss rotation is getting ignored*

[true gull]

how many years does that take?

[frozen hollow]

I mean it should make it more reasonable if you aim for that after/instead of hat

[icy tundra]

so much less time than the 90 years using the pinic quest

[frozen hollow]

especially if you got a decent amoount of statues from the event

[minor helm]

just need more events then gunna try for a 1 and done lol

[icy tundra]

I'm at 80k kapow :/

[true gull]

still like 3 or 4

[frozen hollow]

on the note of that

it's just that shrimple

[true gull]

do these even drop kapow?

[icy tundra]

watch it become speed statue

[minor helm]

yes

[sturdy obsidian]

You say.

[icy tundra]

converted 70k into kapow that was the highlight of my day

now I need to uneglect monolyth

[minor helm]

I wanna stack up 1m of the tickets and hope for the 1m

[cosmic kite]

I gotta know people what's your spelunking efficiency

[minor helm]

but I know its gunna hurt when it doesn't

[sturdy obsidian]

Believing won't hurt!

[frozen hollow]

I mean I'm up for saving trophies for statues instead of gwatches

[icy tundra]

when you reach zenith kapow you escape the simulation

[true gull]

idk the wiki does not

[minor helm]

[sturdy obsidian]

But you're showing the Food Coupon and the Statue Coupon. 2 Different items there

[true gull]

food is for show bc it shows drips there but not for statues

[wild vortex]

82B

[sturdy obsidian]

'random statue' already implies that every statue can drop. Now, there's a slightly better chance of getting a 'specific statue' by placing it under it.

[cosmic kite]

Wth im barely over 1.3b how do yall get so much

[frozen hollow]

from what I've seen/heard it is a lot better chance

[sturdy obsidian]

While in the Gold food coupons, not all good fold are included.

[wild vortex]

read chapters

[sturdy obsidian]

Oof, reading chapters is something that I'm not doing at all.

[true gull]

1. the gold food says the same but its NOT every gold food.
2. lava said again and again that the statue coupon does not work like that

[minor helm]

lava mentioned about placing the statue you want with the coupon for increased odds

[safe jungle]

yea and don't forget praising the lord

[wild vortex]

I get at least 2-3B per day reading the first couple cave chapters

[sturdy obsidian]

Well, we're telling you how it works.

[cosmic kite]

I do read chapter

[frozen hollow]

cave 1 chapters

[wild vortex]

pretty easy to save up a few hundred million to last a while

[sturdy obsidian]

I'm not proud

[icy tundra]

this guy doesn't read

[sturdy obsidian]

which lore should I prio?

[frozen hollow]

the first one

[sturdy obsidian]

Also, about the breakpoints. Should I use stacks of 25k (for the 1st) or it's fine to use more (like, 1m stack)

[upper karma]

cave 1 for a whiiiiiiile

[minor helm]

what % do you wanna aim for on the total spelunk eff?

[frozen hollow]

yes

[upper karma]

cave 1 is just 24 hour gains/8, cave 2 you wanna focus first buff for a bit

[timid shadow]

Hey guys, quick question, I had almost every meal maxed but I just unlocked lv140 meals with spelunking

Am I missing a big source of cooking speed ? Can't go faster than e126 and it needs e134 for 1 lvl for the first meal

[sour verge]

The first bonus from Kelp Primeval gives a shitload of POW

[minor helm]

can you hit 100% on IT?

[frozen hollow]

prisma diamond chef

[timid shadow]

Done already

[upper karma]

definitely doesnt have the hourly to farm that properly

[sour verge]

Loan him some fertilizer

[visual nova]

Looks like tremor worms will be my highest AC dr multi

[sturdy obsidian]

Is there a gain loss by consuming more chapters than the breakpoint amount? (25k?

[half hawk]

what bubba binus should i pick

[wild vortex]

Decreases efficiency

But, you get more levels and youre limited by reads so...

[frozen hollow]

Do love that laaarrrryyy is one of the 2 bubbles that can waste the 2nd liquid

[frozen hollow]

none of the outputs in cave 1 are necessarily bad

[upper karma]

: /

[frozen hollow]

They all help you make more pages/hr

[visual nova]

There is a beautiful guide in tips and tricks

[sturdy obsidian]

I just wanna know if I should spend all my stacked chapters each day in 8 uses, or limit the amount to the breakdown hahaha

[frozen hollow]

you are better of reading 24999 untill a certain breakpoint above it that makes reads average higher for the 1st bonus

[craggy parrot]

so how much better is frogs even over rams?

[frozen hollow]

a lot

[tardy rock]

Is there an ideal level of overstim in spelunking before you do an amber run? I usually do it at level 20

[craggy parrot]

this setup?

[sour verge]

I usually wait for whatever I'm comfortable waiting for. Anywhere between 17~20.

[upper karma]

respawn chip instead of keychain if you dont have fomo chains

[frozen hollow]

double 6% is better with keychain chip than respawn

6,5 is also better

[upper karma]

cave ones op, so you just split into 8, cave 2 you only want the first buff so you target that

[sturdy obsidian]

by target, you mean, reading 1999 pages?

[upper karma]

thats... cave 1

[sturdy obsidian]

oh

[upper karma]

youre making me question everything rn and its hurting my brain

[sturdy obsidian]

I read, cave 1

[upper karma]

cave 1 - just take your daily gains and split into 8 stacks

cave 2 - focus first one and split into 2499 stacks

[sturdy obsidian]

Noted! Thanks @upper karma - And sorry for the trouble

[upper karma]

cave 1s weird cause you could pop 8 20m stacks and you'll still hit first buff 90% of the time

[sour verge]

W Lava odd rigging?

[rigid plover]

Yes

[sour verge]

It actually applies to me since I've always read 8 stacks of 1M

[sturdy obsidian]

Well, I can see some gains hahha. I started with Cave 1 (2m stacks) and yeah, I got +3B Eff

[misty mountain]

Great my game crashed during GD run, no mail for me and now all my stam is gone 💀

[rigid plover]

J3?

[frozen hollow]

open your research and look in the bottom left you will notice they have letters and numbers corresponding to their position

[candid horizon]

how much DR do you need to get that luckiest lad trophy....

[arctic ermine]

some ppl got it with 200, some people like me took a long time with over 10k lol

[rigid plover]

Oh alright I didn't notice that ^^

[misty mountain]

Is it worth it tho? How much lvl do you get with 2499 pages?

[candid horizon]

200!?!?!? i wanna jump off a cliff

[upper karma]

uh.. like 15? I think'

[median harness]

where should i spend my overstim? glitter or scout? and should i wait for overstim 20 since it's close? lol

[misty mountain]

I would need to hit first buff 5 times /8 to have the same value with 1M stacks so seems worth it

[upper karma]

10 17 20 21

[arctic ermine]

id wait and push ur pow bit higher and do it on scout

[charred condor]

E27 i got told to do scout

[true gull]

you mentioned assumptions so i thought you just assumed

[upper karma]

hit every buff with that, interesting

[charred condor]

ughhhhhh, back to bubbles

[misty mountain]

So 4/8 hmmm still worth but not so much better

[upper karma]

2s kinda worth the target

[median harness]

my pow is about to shoot wayyy up there honestly. i haven't done a single GD run since it got so much easier, i just keep forgetting to check since it takes so long for stamina to regen

[upper karma]

could do 9999 and chance the exp buff too since thats not bad

[mossy saffron]

to many

[upper karma]

full 99% by tonight

[icy tundra]

I made this for the J3 propaganda

old reliable human slop

[misty mountain]

Well I should focus more cause my rng is just terrible

[icy tundra]

credit to @frozen hollow for the board image

[frozen hollow]

yet another image of my stuff that wil lget widespread

[charred condor]

honesly

[upper karma]

credit for a research board

[frozen hollow]

soon the whole idleon community will have seen my sushi board, my research grid (when I was doing minehead ) and my quickref

[charred condor]

orange and purple are all done (only atomables left)

[median harness]

i just started reading chp2 again, think i'll do that for a little while, based on your conversation @upper karma , what would you say is the "best" target number for me right now on it?

[icy tundra]

It won't be widespread don't worry

[charred condor]

i got about 120k bubble levels yesterday

[frozen hollow]

allegedly trapping ones are kind of easy with 20m claims

[charred condor]

ooooh thats a good call

[uneven zephyr]

I can't remember, does the (1) on consecrate mean I've already done it once?

[charred condor]

ill give it a try ty

[upper karma]

what about the sailing ones

[charred condor]

my sailing is baaaad

[sour verge]

it's the amount of protection layers you've got left

[icy tundra]

hourly clicking sailing is crazy work

[frozen hollow]

🤔 did you not use your 2nd liquid at all while doing the bubble clicking?

[ebon aspen]

am I seeing 29 chests?

[frozen hollow]

you can click larry quite easily imo and getting that up is worth it

[charred condor]

on what?

[frozen hollow]

larry and ash are clickable

[upper karma]

I just do 2499 for simplicity, but 9999 would probably be "best" if you really want that lil pow addition you can just gamba the 3 buffs, really just depends on what you want out of the page farming

[ebon aspen]

god, need to check on sources of more chest storage..

[charred condor]

ehhh still need a main resource ill focus them separately

[icy tundra]

💳

[latent cloud]

Looks like I'll be using my first insta button 😅

[ebon aspen]

really man?

[upper karma]

when candy clicking, you can either target multiple bubbles with different water caps and full drain, or just focus 1 liquid/bubble, assuming thats what hes askin

[misty mountain]

You have an insta how lucky

[icy tundra]

well more of a but you get what I mean

[ebon aspen]

oh, lets check the cost of each

[charred condor]

ahhhh, was doing hatever i was working on then the w6 bubbles, with some farming oones to 10k

[median harness]

thanks for your input

[median harness]

just get your DR higher 🗿

[ebon aspen]

could be worse I guess

[icy tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-hank-scorpio-why-didn’t-i-think-of-that-gif-16665717301005834823

[true gull]

what is candy clicking?

[sonic flower]

patched

[frozen hollow]

we don't candy click no more it was kill
we active click now

[upper karma]

exactly

[icy tundra]

you sell your soul for alchemy bubble

[median harness]

it's the best of ideas

[true gull]

how you cant get more than your inv holds. it just deletes the excess

[upper karma]

turn off auto loot

[icy tundra]

you can candy click ores very easy

[true gull]

is that why?

[violet solstice]

do you get more than 1 monocles from L8?

[upper karma]

auto loot tries to force more then your inventory can actually hold and deletes the mats in chunks

[frozen hollow]

you can active click ores just as easily 🤔

[charred condor]

mob drops arent too bad to 99% either

[icy tundra]

but for the other I alway mess up

[sonic flower]

4

[median harness]

excess stays on the ground, and ideally you do active clicking with a very large inv

[upper karma]

due to his recent change of auto loot insta picking up

[violet solstice]

wait you get 1 per level?

i had it on 1 the entire time wtf

[sonic flower]

same for the kalideascope too

i got by with like 2 monos

[upper karma]

pretty easy thankfully

[formal fractal]

why is the green bubble counterpart is not included in this tier list in prisma bubbles?

[sonic flower]

you should invest in all your kaliedascopes first

[icy tundra]

archer is shit

[frozen hollow]

it's further down

[upper karma]

cause people hate archers

[charred condor]

yeah i get like 140 levels per inv, 2-3 invs per candy

[formal fractal]

fair, okay thanks

[charred condor]

so like 1800-2100 actual levels per candy

[upper karma]

mob mat bubble clicking is

• Load up vman
• Full set up carry cap
• Turn off auto loot
• 1 Hour candy
• Fill Inv and send it to storage (exit fast or it deletes)
• Fill Inv again then level bubble
• Fill inv and send it to storage
• Fill inv again then level bubble
• Repeat till no more rss

[mortal shoal]

Hi everyone

👋🏿

[charred condor]

i skip all this lmao

[mortal shoal]

reached lvl 50 and got new shape, where would it be best to put?

[sonic flower]

use optimizer man

[uneven patrol]

Uuh, any reason why my Sneaking would take an absolute nosedive for no apparent reason? Happened yesterday during routine upgrading stuff, suddenly like 6 floors I've been through are 100% detect. Been relogging and checking talents and all the usual suspects

[lusty jetty]

what is best map to farm golden hampters?

[mortal shoal]

where is that

[upper karma]

dont mind that its DK and auto loot isnt off

[sour verge]

WW preset?

[upper karma]

w5 wurms

[median harness]

the instructions have been defiled!

[upper karma]

hey auto loot wasnt the same back then and vmans a storage rat

[arctic ermine]

my takeout arrived but i need to combine sushi. what to do ?

[charred condor]

yeah i just do ```
Candy x2
get 140 levelups
wait
get another 140
wait get like 20-30 more
candy again

[upper karma]

[icy tundra]

eat the sushis

[uneven patrol]

Hadn't touched WW when it happened, and I've reset and relevelled just in case. Funeral Flower stacks still in place

[upper karma]

vmans goated, I get 500b to level with

[charred condor]

almost 600 1hr candies down

[upper karma]

cycle through water really fast tho

[sour verge]

How come the storage chest isnt eating those stacks you deposited?

[upper karma]

been tempted to candy this for button but its only ~1k levels per water cap

[charred condor]

that is on my vman

[icy tundra]

it's only atoming if you have the inventory open

[upper karma]

cause im not sitting with the UI open long enough for it to delete

[arctic ermine]

i need to do that ;;;;;

[cold sphinx]

Do we have a voidwalker portal run guide

[upper karma]

kruks problem this week, cba

[sour verge]

Oh so I could technically do that as well with copper ore then

[upper karma]

not really sure why you'd need to with copper, but yes

[arctic ermine]

my latest button is on that one, maybe after eating and good shower ill make myself suffer with that

[icy tundra]

arlong made a video of his portal run I gues thta would be an updated guide

[sour verge]

it's just so I don't have to wait those few seconds until the alchemy ui realises I have copper to spend, sometimes it doesnt update quickly enough

[upper karma]

will never understand why he changed the requirement to a mob mat

[upper karma]

ahhhhh need some more carry cap then

[sour verge]

that's the thing, my inventory is full and has enough for more clicks, the ui just doesnt realise this as fast as i'd like it to

[upper karma]

I understand what you're saying, but its due to carry cap

I had the issue in the past

[charred condor]

what are your stamps to have 500b an inv

[sour verge]

I don't understand why that's the case even if the ore is there and ready for clicks but I'll take your word for it.

maybe the rate at which the alchemy ui detects enough ore for upgrades scales with carry capacity?

[upper karma]

2050m cap or whatever it is

technically have more then that, but lava wont let me

[subtle zephyr]

rift jocund

[misty mountain]

It’s because alchemy actualise your inv at some rate, if your carry cap is more than the number of lvls you can get in this time you can hold the upgrade button infinitely

[upper karma]

you dont have the carry cap for it to update in time, you run through the rss to fast while upgrading

[upper karma]

im assuming you have something like 30-40b carry cap on ore

[sour verge]

Ok that makes sense and is actually the explanation I was thinking of for the underlying update logic. I was struggling to accept why that was the case and not that it was the case at all since I could surpass that limitation sometimes.

[sour verge]

Lemme check

[upper karma]

not bad can candy some more out of that mason tho

candy the mason

[charred condor]

yeah been using my discounts on it

[upper karma]

good

now we just need atom levels from event shop and your cap will jump

[sour verge]

One single slot carries this much.

[grim bison]

nice

[charred condor]

how are your other pouches? i think a couple of mine been hit a few times

[uneven patrol]

Aw shiit, I had doubled up on another charm and trashed my golden beads. Stupid stupid stupid. And now I'm 100% detect on beads floor, fuuuu

[upper karma]

why isnt it showing me with reduct

[upper karma]

uh.. double fish?

[sonic flower]

bricked

[charred condor]

click it zoomed weird

[upper karma]

Im at cap push, waiting on nslb to work

no exalts

cant 99% my bubbles n flies, most likely due to the lack of exalts lol

[charred condor]

holy bug one

probably

[median harness]

so uhhh where does the Maw's loot go? lol

[sour verge]

Ok after doing the math I'm way below the carry cap you even estimated ten times less. So of course I'm facing that issue

[upper karma]

would be 1k+ with exalt

[icy tundra]

Sorry I ate it

[proven cloak]

back into the maw

[upper karma]

is that with ruck n such

[sour verge]

[upper karma]

yea thats why then

just means its time to grind stamps

or youre missing gem shop... maybe

[charred condor]

Whats your exalt break down like?

[sour verge]

I gotta start candying glass shards and the ore bag. VMAN is finally gonna get some use outside of spelunking

[upper karma]

forogt that was a palette buff

[sour verge]

I'm maxed here fortunately

[upper karma]

I need to snipe my .02x from exotic

[charred condor]

yeah so its basically atom levels rip

[charred condor]

maxxed this?

[upper karma]

.04 from palette as well

but that .18 from atom is big

[sour verge]

Been maxed since I first got it

[upper karma]

granted...

[upper karma]

guild buff maybe?

[sour verge]

Yeah im missing that since I don't have a guild

[upper karma]

oh I forgot about summoning and star sign chip

[upper karma]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-stare-blank-face-uh-okay-blink-gif-17510019

[charred condor]

i can inv you to mine if you want lmao

[upper karma]

that gives a sht ton

[sour verge]

I'm a lonewolf 🐺

[misty mountain]

I need to redo my samples for this, statue week for merit would have been good but ofc can’t win against mc week

[upper karma]

hate samples

during last statue merit I just did 1 copper n 1 log, cba

[sour verge]

I've got bigger issues than the guild buff, my stamps need the most investment rn

I haven't candy'd glass shards since before I got a huge DR boost

[candid horizon]

anyone got some space in a good guild for someone who almost lives in this game?

[misty mountain]

I did all during last statue week but I can already get better ones without statue week

[charred condor]

come soul 2 w1 party dungeon

[craggy parrot]

i do have fomo chains 🙂 still respawn chiPß

[upper karma]

theres a lot of surprisingly good guild buffs, definitely worth going into a progressed one

[upper karma]

hoping for wing rack before I need to do a resample again

[strange python]

How do you guys stop the game from crashing during high waves in TD

[candid horizon]

hendocutter?

[charred condor]

yeah cant invite while your still in a guild

[latent hatch]

what is the best potion setup for farthest push?

[misty mountain]

Wing and robe rack please

[upper karma]

robe wont happen due to research grid, or at least Id assume so, wouldnt mind it tho

[cosmic spoke]

does anyone know what the 26th sushi does? it say 1.30x Burger, i feel like im missing something

[icy tundra]

robe rack won't happend until we get f2p ones

[ebon aspen]

its a secret info

[short igloo]

For grinding out Grand Discoverys, does it matter which cave you're exploring?

[ebon aspen]

if you know, you know

[misty mountain]

Change research node to give a smaller multi to robe rack and we’re all good

[upper karma]

idk if f2ps ever stopped him from doing something but possible

[cosmic spoke]

fair?

[charred condor]

i now nolonger see you lmao...lmao

[astral zenith]

it's pretty clear lava doesn't care about f2p lmao

[cosmic spoke]

is it usefull tho?

[icy tundra]

there would be a big backlash of people waiting 1 week for a p2w only feature

[fluid shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-haha-haha-stupid-gif-18352447936202430144

[upper karma]

I mean, the recent div changes, glimbo and button being free account wide multis, theres some stuff in there for f2ps lately

[sour verge]

Sushi is pretty free

[median harness]

that's true, but i also don't know how many f2p have progressed to the very end of w7. i am literally 100% uninformed lol

[icy tundra]

I still think w7 boss wil drop the first f2p robe

[sour verge]

But yea you shouldn't be too shocked that the man who makes a living out of developing a product is more concerned about the paying customers. It goes without saying

[fluid shadow]

hmm who to care about... - the people that pay my bills? or the people that bitch and complain that things arent free? 🤔

[charred condor]

ok even with 20min claims my carry cap is waaaaay to bad for these

[median harness]

tbh it's marketed as a "Free" game, can't call your initial customer base that

[astral zenith]

i really dont mind spending money on games but 25$ a week or 1200 a year is a bit much imo

[charred condor]

now how do i increase these lmao

[sour verge]

It is, he went overboard over these last few months.

[misty mountain]

Just release robe rack and wing rack in the same update so people can’t complain they have nothing

[icy tundra]

still need a fair balance tbh, paying customer will first be f2ps

[fluid shadow]

u are not a customer of "free product"

[median harness]

uhhhhhh who is making you spend $1200 a year on idleon?

[upper karma]

,, right

[hot pendant]

Free at last also fuck sneaking

[median harness]

making it sound like you're clocking in at the idleon plant store. gotta spend your $25 of company credit before you get your take home pay

[fluid shadow]

you all sit on pedestals like you wouldn't care more about the people giving you money. Are you all donating your money and time to homeless in your real lives today?
hilariously hypocritical thinking...

[sour verge]

wait what happened

[fluid shadow]

people said lava cares more about paying players than f2p.. like no shit of course hedoes. you would too.

[sonic marlin]

[sour verge]

Well yeah that's a given is this really being debated

[median harness]

initial customers are the ones first drawn in by the marketing and ideals of the game, one of those being "free game"

[astral zenith]

it is just demoralizing theres no option to ever catch up to the people spending 1200 a year and yea i would argue catching up to people matters since it is an mmo

[surreal kelp]

and also it's a lot of really strong bonuses that are locked behind paying money now

[icy tundra]

Yeah sure the game is more catered to the paying playerbase but he still need to throw f2p a bone

[upper karma]

then.. dont compare to mega whales.. in a single player game

[misty mountain]

I don’t think they are complaining of course he cares more, but it’s important for the health of the game that there is still some stuff for f2p because the most important playerbase is f2p or near f2p

[median harness]

they transition into paying customers the moment a transaction hits. f2p are still all apart of the playerbase though

[surreal kelp]

the mega whales are the people new content is designed around now though

[sour verge]

You just gotta look at it the way I do; the paying players are playing a different version of the game than you and I. Plenty of overlapping but in the end there's no point in yearning for a way to catch up because this game isnt made with that in mind.

[upper karma]

its really not, theres plenty of f2ps in this game pushing new content

you're just setting unrealistic goals and mad you cant achieve them

[arctic ermine]

treating this game as mmo kills the joy of it. i play it like single player with my own goals

[crude hollow]

Are the addative tiles on minehead a scam? it would have to be a huge additive to matter more than another damage tile

[astral zenith]

yea but if you started today completely f2p how long would it take to hit the end of w7, im sure the f2p people pushing new content have been playing damn near since release

[misty mountain]

Idleon’s discord is the most depressing place to be if you end up comparing there is always someone better

[arctic ermine]

i mean 10% more dmg is quite a lot

[median harness]

I'm just a temporarily disenfranchised IdleOn millionaire! soon i'll be hitting up the gem shop with all my money, you'll see!

[robust tapir]

it benefits them more because they can do more in it, doesnt stop you from also using new content

[crude hollow]

You would reccomend buying the upgrade ?

[upper karma]

Im not even sure what the point in this statement is?.. no sht it would take time to hit END GAME CONTENT after JUST STARTING THE GAME

[sour verge]

The funny thing is that it would take you less time to reach w7 as a f2p now, then it took to reach world 6 for f2ps a year ago. He completely trivialised the grind.

[fluid shadow]

lol he has been giving free to play a bone. they only difference is the paying players get a bigger bone. f2p players shouldnt compare to paying ones, but they do. and therein lies the issue. they want to get to paying player's level for FREE.

[arctic ermine]

i like it, eventually im sure its worth more when u get even more lvls on it

[craggy parrot]

i just realised i never actually pushed AC crystal.... whats a good amount to reach on froggos?

[arctic ermine]

1.5

[crude hollow]

It seems like if I have two 9's for example, and click a third 9 that is going to be a 50% upgrade... I don't know how big the additive multipliers are as I have not bought hte upgrade i keep putting it off... the symbol on the upgrade shows 1% which would be aweful

[upper karma]

It takes like 1-2 months to hit w7, then you go back and work on everything you semi neglected and work back towards being able to farm w7 properly, its how w6 was on release, its how w5 was, and EVERY WORLD BEFORE THAT its how the game works

[sour verge]

I got walled on kruk when I first started, people with w2 tier accounts are reaching w7 now

[upper karma]

1.3 is fine, 1.5 for someone who has the DR to justify the time investment

[median harness]

WHY AM I NOT KILLING THE LAST MOB YET, LAVA??? I SLEPT THROUGH THE OTHER 6 WORLDS THIS MORNING

[icy tundra]

Also people need to know that there are some f2p/autoloot in .1%, sure they are playing since 2021 but they exist

[upper karma]

I insta candied to w7, why tf can I not kill 1 mob >: (

[bright folio]

[sonic marlin]

i keep forgetting that exists..

[bright folio]

yea, its a pain

[arctic ermine]

yeah i was accuracy locked out of content at w4 or something when i first played hahaa

[sonic marlin]

thanks for the daily reminder gotta go do it

[icy tundra]

I did it for w7 prep, happy to not have to do it agin

[arctic ermine]

i did one, the people who keep doing this to get more pow i have the utmost respect to them

[upper karma]

Idk how this convo happens once a week, I dont think anyones every said f2p doesnt struggle and that idleon doesnt favor spenders, thats literally every "MMO"

[sour verge]

In some ways f2ps have it a lot easier now than before. I would've liked to have vault carry my ass back then but alas, I had to rig some w4 upgrade stones for accuracy

[bright folio]

lol doing this for 3 pow each time is insane. Nah, im getting the trophy then going back to never talking to that guy again 😂

[misty mountain]

How does it gives more pow?

[arctic ermine]

what @bright folio said

[sonic marlin]

im a long ways away from that trophy

[sour verge]

It's always borne out of the frustration people have been feeling lately with all the rapid-fire pack releases and pets that buff content to unattainable levels for non-spenders. People just gotta realise that this game takes place on two different paralell realities and comparison between them is pointless.

[bright folio]

3-4 days. Use all your characters for 9-10 daily

[grim bison]

cant you do it on al 10 chars?

[sonic marlin]

im just finding out now you can do it with all characters

[bright folio]

yea otherwise id never get this trophy. No shot id keep up with this for a month

[upper karma]

man people were saying this sht when there was a pack once a month, people just gotta stop comparing themselves to people who spend absurd amounts of money purely to say their numbers are bigger

[misty mountain]

But I can’t find why it would give 3 pow, am I dumb?

[bright folio]

quest reward at the end

[arctic ermine]

one of the quests gives it i dont recall which

[gray cargo]

My numbers are bigger /s

[upper karma]

f2p DRs up to like 4-6k, idk how f2p can be mad these days

use to be stuck at 100 before w7

[ebon aspen]

this is real DR from a F2P

[arctic ermine]

comparison is a thief of joyyy

[ebon aspen]

I dont mind tho, I think its pretty big compared to the olde times

[sonic flower]

[sour verge]

but I want 30k DR???

[upper karma]

yes thats your real DR not what DR can get too lol

[sonic marlin]

holy moly this convos still going man

[misty mountain]

Ok you mean pow statues I though you meant spellunking pow

[sonic marlin]

real me too

[arctic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/these-guys-are-professionals-they're-the-best-woody-toy-story-they're-the-best-at-what-they-do-these-guys-are-pros-gif-5902284144763355430

[surreal kelp]

I just really wish more pets were realistically obtainable f2p w/o trades

[fluid shadow]

whats the best research legendary talent color to invest points into - yellow, red, brown, or green?

[arctic ermine]

i agreee, thats really greedy from lavas perspective

[upper karma]

I want that absurd 60k+ going around

[arctic ermine]

i think yellow is best but one in brown is nice

[sour verge]

The monkeys paw to that is that you end up with more of these

[sonic flower]

did you max out your 101 and 102 and get all your kaliedascopes

[obtuse zealot]

Oh wow I was doing ac gmush, left it whilst I was sleeping but I guess my game crashed during daily reset cuz of all the drops

[upper karma]

Yellow > Brown > Green > Red does fk all

[sonic flower]

cuz they are all point sinkholes and will set you back early

[obtuse zealot]

Stupid wand drops man

[fluid shadow]

i have 1 point in each, but am looking at yellow for statue/gfood

[merry river]

it is a good day

[arctic ermine]

yeah i did same, next point i put into yellow but atm im saving for update

[sour verge]

how do you even grind anything with that much DR without fillling an entire filter page to reduce drop lag

[upper karma]

pretty much

[arctic ermine]

make it stop pls

[upper karma]

1.4m clusters n hour

[worthy scroll]

I need more filter pages

[fluid shadow]

i have 5 pts, and am debating vs 1)maxing The Maw for Arti Find, 2) maxing leg yellow for cluster farm, 3) waiting for update to potentially max new grid point, or sinkin into one of the previous. leaning towards option 3

[bright folio]

no, keep going

[sour verge]

Only when you're done filling these

[sonic marlin]

what are sushi gamers on

[arctic ermine]

id wait for update and then do maw before legend points tbh...

[upper karma]

perfect time to ignore sushi

[bright folio]

done till next update

[tall sphinx]

4 rolls and no 34 perfeto sad times

[arctic ermine]

you need to get ur lvl 54 knowledge up mate

[sour verge]

There are people out here pulling overnight shifts to stack a bunch of T54s. I'm still at T37

[sonic marlin]

lmao i cant stand sitting there combining stuff for hours qwq

[obtuse zealot]

baited ff

[worthy scroll]

Holy shit after months of clicking my snail finally went to 48 just now

[arctic ermine]

watching series and just clicking 3 ofthese every 20seconds or so

[tall sphinx]

pain is that the best way

[sonic marlin]

i love the sushi game i just wish i hadnt learned the strat to it cause now it feels so boring

[obtuse zealot]

daily reset pushed me over

[sour verge]

It's either feeling bored or feeling stuck. I prefer the former.

[arctic ermine]

theres some lower ones that give also better chance for perfcet, i dont remember which one it was now

[sonic marlin]

its impossible for me to feel stuck cause with the dumb wind strat you never get stuck unless you mess up

[worthy scroll]

T50

[sonic marlin]

i wanna be stuck so i can ignore it without feeling bad

[merry river]

still basically never stuck even on a mess up. You just do it again and go to where you are stuck at and you get the one that you are missing

[sour verge]

Toggle all your bonfires to green it's what I do when I don't feel like doing any more sushi

[merry river]

dont worry once your board is all 54s you will be stuck

[sonic marlin]

ONCE? that's a big IF

I don't even know if I have the patience to get ONE let alone like 70 of them

[merry river]

just put on a few movies, have 100s of white screens...and boom tons of 54s

[sour verge]

It could happen if Lava decides that future sushi will only get bonuses that affect future content. And at that point new tiers are only added to go along with these new bonuses

[tall sphinx]

so this may be a bit low then

[arctic ermine]

yeah it scales rly well

[sonic marlin]

im scared of you

[arctic ermine]

if youre not sushi, youre safe

[upper karma]

dam I need to work on fuel gen

[sonic marlin]

i don't feel safe..

[rancid pike]

anyone else has a problem with IT displaying button reqs incorrectly?

[arctic ermine]

when i do on 34s i can actually keep my 2 highest rows on green flame and still keep a good pace when i combine i ahve almost full fuel!

[rose cape]

only 1% !? holy scam

[sonic marlin]

despite having almost 3k hours i feel like such a lazy casual gamer compared to these people..

[misty mountain]

You don’t even have t59 yet go back to work

[misty mountain]

It scales with other things I guess because mine feels like 25%

[rose cape]

what does it scale with

[arctic ermine]

theres sushis that increase the fire effect i think

[misty mountain]

That is the thing : I don’t know

[rose cape]

tier 52

im planets away from that

[sonic marlin]

I'm waiting for my next research level to get back into sushi

[rose cape]

i have 2 pts, but well ima save it for the update

[misty mountain]

If you’re at least lvl 49 you don’t have no excuses go back to work

[upper karma]

im sittin at 31s and have been for a while

[sonic marlin]

you can't tell me what to do

[arctic ermine]

embarassing

[hot pendant]

Is there a meal speed sheet or checklist?

[sonic marlin]

i've been chilling at 43

[upper karma]

it

[sonic marlin]

i don't want to touch it anymore

[shell barn]

What's the first thing I should do in w7

[sonic marlin]

quit /j

[shell barn]

Lol

[sonic marlin]

free yourself before its too late

[misty mountain]

Tbf the bonuses after t41 are quite meh

[arctic ermine]

so close ;;;;;

[upper karma]

ew

[shell barn]

Gotta get to the new content fr

[sonic marlin]

I don't even remember what I did when I first got in w7

[shell barn]

Probably gallery

[sonic marlin]

I think once I figured out spelunking I just map pushed

[sonic marlin]

Gallery's an easy thing to drop stuff in and never think about for months

[misty mountain]

I’ll wait until I perfecto others lvl before pushing to tier 60

[shell barn]

Yeah im needing to do spelunking and research

[sonic marlin]

Oh right

[upper karma]

ew^2

[sonic marlin]

I forgot you had to do that before the first map opened

[shell barn]

Focus on that for now while I progress maps?

[arctic ermine]

doo.. do i see 6 red slots without 54s ? disgusting

[shell barn]

Not anymore fsr? I could just already go in

[tired zealot]

is sushi now same afk % as research?

[sonic marlin]

what

[misty mountain]

You’re right I’m sorry I should push 6 more….

[sonic marlin]

when it first released i had to

[upper karma]

bro really wants that 1% buck gains

[arctic ermine]

the bigger the buck the bigger the meal

[rose cape]

1% multi, holy damn SHIT

[upper karma]

new meta - just move the squars under the t54s

[upper karma]

"Idc if it does nothing, I want more bucks >: ("

[misty mountain]

But then I would have yellow squares without t54..

[upper karma]

good, they do nothing

[sonic marlin]

If that's the case I'd just say map push and learn the new content

[misty mountain]

Wtf 1 knowledge xp/day, how will I lvl up my t54 without it???

[upper karma]

only 3 years for 1 level

[arctic ermine]

but your sushis buff the effect ;;;

[sonic marlin]

who put the salt shaker right next to the sushi station button

[misty mountain]

True true

[sonic marlin]

oh well i like the color of the 25s anyways

[upper karma]

whats your displayed bonus curious of sushi buff updates it or not

[median harness]

@viscid raven are you around? 👀

[upper karma]

nvm it does cause my buffs 28%, yuck

[arctic ermine]

where do i even see that

[misty mountain]

Huuuuuge

[upper karma]

much better

[sonic marlin]

fake sushi gamer

[upper karma]

are you.. trolling?

[arctic ermine]

oh this is not a cold slot ?

meh..

[upper karma]

colds even worse lol

reds kinda the only one that does anything ngl

[tawdry cedar]

Anyone else experience East Wind stop working mid row? (I waited for animation to end before grabbing next sushi)

[rose cape]

spaghetti code

[robust tapir]

there we go

[arctic ermine]

nope. u fcked it up somewhere at some point

[mental turtle]

Make sure you don't have a blue fire going. It caught me out a few times.

[upper karma]

screen shot of a screenshot, I feel scammed

[robust tapir]

what? that's just a single snip

[carmine flume]

Another day another no luckiest lad

[tawdry cedar]

omg! you right, I didn't realize I had that going!

[carmine flume]

[upper karma]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-eyes-on-you-watch-it-watch-your-back-i-see-you-gif-11048930192030059179

[rose cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386340860052111460/1452171239316521124/attachment-1.gif

[gentle violet]

Whys the cold slot gotta be so terrible 😪

[radiant wind]

could someone explain how this upgrade works? how would it affect day market

[upper karma]

im sure there will be a 1 million x sushi slot buffs somewhere at some point

[gentle violet]

I hate that its the same usefulness as a regular slot and a different color so it needs to be separated because organized butnits useless

[upper karma]

the same way it affects night market

[rose cape]

uhh more level

[arctic ermine]

umm... its quite self explainig it = yoiu get more max lvls for it...?

[rose cape]

you can more level andd, thats it

[radiant wind]

are the upgrades even capped?

[arctic ermine]

yuppp

[obtuse zealot]

so people thinking update today?

[rose cape]

maybe no ?

[arctic ermine]

i hope, im stayiung up for couple more hours

[obtuse zealot]

omg i am stupid, this was overnight

on artifacts

[radiant wind]

okay im silly mb

[fluid shadow]

he used to update fridays but has since moved to sundays recently it seems

[violet ridge]

they've been releasing on sundays that past couple of updates

[upper karma]

genuinely hate figuring out how to set these up, I need to stop focusing all campfires for no reason

[obtuse zealot]

i see

[upper karma]

UGE GAINS

[prisma river]

1 week per update so sunday, before it was friday but Lava needed more time to make sushi station so now updates are sunday

[rose cape]

merge them all

[worthy scroll]

Very much preferred for me, I'm actually off work and able to play lol

[upper karma]

that would be a terrible idea... I like it

[rose cape]

any tips on the setup thingy ?

[prisma river]

Use the research optimizer

[robust tapir]

saving 2 points for next update just in case

[obtuse zealot]

damn just rolled 99 on the observation for it to be a miss gg

[upper karma]

red slot buff diff

[rose cape]

me too

[violet ridge]

https://corgan.github.io/idleon-research-optimizer/research-optimizer-v2.html

[rose cape]

i HATE optimizer, pls just tell me how

https://tenor.com/view/compedant-meme-descendant-companion-son-gif-229683454138273454

[worthy scroll]

Same at this point I'll have 2 points for update, 3 if I ever get lucky with this artifact lol

[charred condor]

1 last fishing bubble.....

[prisma river]

Why though

[obtuse zealot]

2 mags there, but learn to use the optimizer its easy

[rose cape]

its 100% faster here and i dont wanna copy paste then turn on things and turn this on and this and this like turning on a plane

[mental wigeon]

what s a good setup for obals at my stage button pressed 150# roughly overall 11k lvl

[prisma river]

bruh, it is just 3 clicks max

[rose cape]

i cant read

[rose cape]

oh my god obols, delete the game

[violet ridge]

All DR obol

[prisma river]

Doesnt matter what anyone here tells you nothing will be better than actually using the optimizer

[mental wigeon]

and the square ones?

[mental wigeon]

where could i find that

[violet ridge]

DR

[obtuse zealot]

surerly i get it with this set of claims

[rose cape]

replace the gold dice with ice knight if u have them

[mental wigeon]

thanks amma just copy paste this for me too and call it a day

[prisma river]

https://corgan.github.io/idleon-research-optimizer/research-optimizer-v2.html

[rose cape]

for all ur chars

[mental wigeon]

thanks guys for W help

[mental wigeon]

finally getting to fixing obals

[charred condor]

2 obols left

[mental wigeon]

11k total lvl in less than 1 year btw lowkey crazy

[rose cape]

idk but this is my Vman and 2nd DK

[neat musk]

Why im i not getting money from shushi?

[violet ridge]

J3

[mental wigeon]

yesssir thanks

[rose cape]

and you do the same for family

[misty mountain]

Why multi on vman tho? For speedrun?

[robust tapir]

you need a better vman, btw the base multikill obols are pretty shit, use emp/chiz

[charred condor]

and you obviously reroll all of these to +1

[rose cape]

yea, and i dont like swapping between DR and multi and shi

[mental wigeon]

how do iget those red ones?

[merry river]

did the data tab on IT disappear for anyone else

[mental wigeon]

nope

[rose cape]

alrighty

[charred condor]

profile picture, click it

[robust tapir]

use this button

[misty mountain]

💰

[mental wigeon]

ohhh yesssir

[kindred mirage]

how much pow is needed for spelunk 9?

[charred condor]

it was worse but he moved it down to a drop down

[charred condor]

Which one is 9?

[opaque pawn]

3 to go!!!!!

[mental wigeon]

im lowkey whaling

[kindred mirage]

scoutpost

[charred condor]

E25