lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[nocturne patrol]

so ez bruh

[crimson sorrel]

heker

[arctic gust]

Dumb question, but the blessings listed under the gods, are they on all the time or only if linked to a character?

[fervent mulch]

Sharki your monocles 😭 make me cri

You need those trinalges bro

[undone oar]

Almost there

[sand hull]

does gaming just take forever? Im currently in a slump in the 100m's purple bits

[proven finch]

well, guess I wont get my AC unlocked soon, will need tons more stuff to get the 400kills in 2min

[fervent mulch]

sadge

[jagged silo]

17min later then I can get next mf

[crimson sorrel]

[proven finch]

alone the respawn rate wont be enough for me to get the 400 (not to mention survivablity)

[strong shuttle]

i got it wee

oh yea

1st cog for construct that doesnt suck donkey stick

[fathom bone]

Finaly took the time to get a journey man character and got him to meistro class as well now i need 1m kills on all w1,2,3 mobs so now all my characters are doing that im at 15/40 and just started the quest,

[crimson sorrel]

so whale

[strong shuttle]

you probably have 5x that much anyway :E

[crimson sorrel]

nah

[crimson sorrel]

[strong shuttle]

its shit wow :|

[undone oar]

Yay

Look at that

[mystic heart]

no theyre all mine

mouse tax, hand it over

[undone oar]

And another on my DK

[mystic heart]

this is just abit more then me you win my liege

[undone oar]

Btw, should I keep ranking them?

[jagged silo]

get double

[oblique heron]

Aura

[undone oar]

;-;

I guess I could try getting everything to 1k

[oblique heron]

Yep he has 200k

[drowsy sage]

which is best to max out first
or should i divide my balls equally

[jagged silo]

nice

[oblique heron]

I divided balz

[drowsy sage]

ok

[oblique heron]

Cuz tome

[mystic heart]

nomi do we have tips for eye pain

[drowsy sage]

ohh

[oblique heron]

Folk

[drowsy sage]

i dont have slpuking unlocked so i shouldnt upgrade it yet right?

[hardy kestrel]

yeah you should cause you never know when the bonus will appear next

[drowsy sage]

oh okayy

[undone oar]

Which one we going for? All on stalk value?

[crimson sorrel]

sleep

[mystic heart]

but i woke up tddy after 13h sleep

[crimson sorrel]

all in better exotic

get that to 2.5k atleast

[mystic heart]

and druign sleep i also woke up with eye pain

[jagged silo]

??

[crimson sorrel]

1 and 5 always

[dire cedar]

finally got a t54 sushi

[crimson sorrel]

get ur eye checked

[agile tundra]

anyone got any advice on what helps with unlocking new evos in gaming

[mystic heart]

i should do that huh

[crimson sorrel]

now fill half board with t54

[agile tundra]

i feel like i havent gotten a new log in ages

[crimson sorrel]

do u have instant gaming

[agile tundra]

not sure what that is

[crimson sorrel]

plants grow instantly in w5 town

[agile tundra]

ohhh

where do i get that

[crimson sorrel]

need to have grow speed less then 1sec or 5 sec i think

if u dont have that u can forget about it and do it later

[agile tundra]

rn mine is like 7 sec

but outside of just upgrading it

[crimson sorrel]

do u have pallate

and is this with kitsune on

[echo crag]

palette, kitsune, squirel

[shadow lance]

my bubo is failing his checks, purple and yellow is literally on w7 bubbles and orange is done with w6 and the green one is still not done on 0.7%

[jagged silo]

[crimson sorrel]

[agile tundra]

i def need some more kitsune ill see if i can get under 5 ty!

[crimson sorrel]

upgrade couldren more

upgrade luck

[crimson sorrel]

Done now I can upgrade other things

[undone oar]

First time seeing a GS egg

SURELY that will give me my 1.8m pet for button, right?

[echo crag]

interesting

[crimson sorrel]

they have ranges so its not certain

[undone oar]

[echo crag]

kinda forgot to check on that upgrade when i reached 64

[crimson sorrel]

i got 63 today

now i am lvling some insights

[undone oar]

I need 5h until 63, what sushi upgrade was it? money?

[crimson sorrel]

yes

[jagged silo]

u hit so much free

[normal lagoon]

So chat, Thursday patch?
Probably not, but Gold Ball Multi being removed already has me sus

[strong shuttle]

cry

[crimson sorrel]

only 2 times i think

[normal lagoon]

Wait is that the timer right now?

That seems... Inaccurate

[crimson sorrel]

i have 1 49

[normal lagoon]

(man I can't wait for those 10 days of sailing gains)

[bleak gazelle]

looks like someone needs to cloudsave

[normal lagoon]

Also @strong shuttle, you do know going over the 48h is okay right?

[normal lagoon]

Yeah I was gonna say I'm almost positive it was crashing into my dentist appt

(which is in 45m)

[crimson sorrel]

Polar I am not cooked right

[bleak gazelle]

[normal lagoon]

Didn't set up at least 48 in advance you're fucked

[drowsy sage]

can i summon multiple biggies at the same time?

[crimson sorrel]

I setup for 47 so I don't get fuked

[drowsy sage]

ohkay
can i use orb on biggie tho?

[normal lagoon]

You can rhythmically drop multiple eyes but only one can be up at a time

[normal lagoon]

Yes you can! Mostly just for balloons and bad upgrade stones though

[drowsy sage]

ohhh

[valid oracle]

hey guys, i am hesitating on making my last character because what if a new masterclass comes out that's good? what should i do in your opinon?

i currently have db,bb,sb,dk,es,ww,jm,dk,es

[drowsy sage]

aww man biggie sucks then

[normal lagoon]

You know going over is okay right??

[crimson sorrel]

No

I can read polar

[normal lagoon]

At 49h+:
First 48h: Multed
49th+: Not multed

[crimson sorrel]

Don't fool me

[strong shuttle]

idk

[sullen parrot]

rip minmax, might need to make a new account

[normal lagoon]

I'm not, I was around for the last time we had this

[normal lagoon]

Oh time to DELETE

Start over you're fucking done

[mystic heart]

all my chars were claimied tdy

[crimson sorrel]

Oh

[normal lagoon]

You will literally never recover from this tragedy

[mystic heart]

am i big bad now

[strong shuttle]

how many % each up ?

[normal lagoon]

Wait you claimed all your MCs already? Cooked. Start over.

[mystic heart]

like 3 or 4

[sullen parrot]

5%

i upgraded it once personally idk

[strong shuttle]

jesus

[echo crag]

thats smol

[strong shuttle]

this is where it ends for now

[crimson sorrel]

I am stuck at 416 summoning

I can't fuking pass 1hp endless

[strong shuttle]

which one

[crimson sorrel]

305 or 6 🤔

[strong shuttle]

also 1hp :<

[normal lagoon]

I managed to pass the 210 button press at least

[crimson sorrel]

Polar is heker

[normal lagoon]

I got very lucky with a few daily instas

[crimson sorrel]

I got mf11

And how in tf we get dollars

[sullen parrot]

my bubba bricked for life

[drowsy sage]

who u callling mf 14?

[strong shuttle]

QQ

[crimson sorrel]

U

[drowsy sage]

ur mf 16

[crimson sorrel]

[strong shuttle]

which MF is the last before generic multi ?

[crimson sorrel]

[crimson sorrel]

9 and 11th 🤔

[nocturne patrol]

uwu

[crimson sorrel]

9 is the best

[glass imp]

is the anniversary update ever coming lol

[strong shuttle]

i mean before you get the stacking buff like megafeather

[crimson sorrel]

9th

[oblique heron]

Hecker

[crimson sorrel]

The stacking multi is the last one which is 12th

[strong shuttle]

so 2 more and then the generic

[oblique heron]

The heck

[sullen parrot]

my quest progression somehow got reduced

[crimson sorrel]

yes

[sullen parrot]

what the fuck is wrong with this game

i just did the scripticus full quests

just for it to apparently reduce my quests

[crimson sorrel]

Next one

[near summit]

Picnic?

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-glitch-geralt-of-rivia-roach-the-witcher-the-witcher3wild-hunt-gif-26941122

[oblique heron]

Nub

[sullen parrot]

wait it doesnt still save after daily reset?

[mystic heart]

what char you chek with?

[oblique heron]

Why would it rho

[near summit]

Ik I did picnic, gained like 10 but then when I checked later I was back to where I was before that

[sullen parrot]

horrendous game

ok for w1 im done with everything except picnic

[oblique heron]

Nub

W7 quest where you have to kill bizario guy sucks

Because you need to start run on that char grrr

[sullen parrot]

i did that, already knew about it

[hoary kernel]

Samawat

[warm yew]

i have my guys set up for that too heh

[mystic heart]

ello mr beguile

[crimson sorrel]

nanami

[sullen parrot]

tips for fish minigame

[crimson sorrel]

dont do it

[mystic heart]

ignroe it

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-kung-fu-panda-git-gud-scrub-gif-9908673464158315671

[sullen parrot]

ohio 💀

[undone oar]

I was just done organizing my sushi slots

And my game white screened

Omg it still saved

[hoary kernel]

七見

[sullen parrot]

how u do this

[undone oar]

Catch many in a row

[undone oar]

Just like how you get the eel and squid

[undone oar]

Eventually you get whale

And if you catch 2 whales in a game you can get megalodon for trophy

[sullen parrot]

do i

[undone oar]

No

[hoary kernel]

No

[sullen parrot]

i just want to be done with those shitty quests bro

[hoary kernel]

Wait tomorrow

[sullen parrot]

im losing my sanity

https://tenor.com/view/punch-punching-laptop-rage-smashing-screen-gif-17930159

[undone oar]

It's so nice having 4 full rows up top now

[near summit]

U will lose ur sanity if u dare do the megalodon after it

[sullen parrot]

thats just for a trophy right? not a quest

[near summit]

Or was that not a quest I forget

[sullen parrot]

its fine ill skip

[undone oar]

Nah it's just trophy

[sullen parrot]

these count towards quest progression?

[sand dune]

son

[sullen parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/sonion-gif-16158818114915131546

[hoary kernel]

Yes?

[sand dune]

ah nothing just bend over and cough i guess

[undone oar]

Only 5 to go

[calm kindle]

where can i find summponing double what to improve thanks

[undone oar]

Depends on what you want

You either put them all on essence generating or put everything on damage related perks (no hp)

[hallow folio]

For matches

[drowsy sage]

is active divinity lowkey better?

[sullen parrot]

u cant active divinity

[near summit]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[hoary kernel]

Try it

[drowsy sage]

okayy

[hoary kernel]

Come back in 1 hour, see how much you get

[potent panther]

new update tomorrow?

[drowsy sage]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-how-bro-felt-after-how-bro-felt-lion-tuff-aura-sigma-gif-2356317619443418025

[near summit]

Well the arcade bonus is gone so mayhaps

[drowsy sage]

okayyy'

[hoary kernel]

Actually Im just gonna tell you now, afk is better

[drowsy sage]

hmmm okay

[hoary kernel]

How many god rank should I get bfore I stop divinity?

[echo crag]

im at 15 waiting on next div week

[hoary kernel]

Hmm

[hoary kernel]

Whats your points per hour

[echo crag]

443t

on 1 character

[jagged silo]

[hoary kernel]

I got 4t

[hoary kernel]

Why be mad over something you cannot control?

[echo crag]

its part of why i like the amount of lvl i get from nslb, most of the time i cant tell wich stamp got hit so no disappointment from some of those carappy ones

[jagged silo]

??

[quick girder]

If you’re fast enough you can force close the game out and it’ll reroll it when you log back in

[hoary kernel]

Why

[quick girder]

If it doesn’t cloud save

[quick girder]

If it doesn’t cloud save, then it’s like it never happened.

[jagged silo]

[hoary kernel]

For what purpose

[undone oar]

Sushi board is prepped

[quick girder]

You could theoretically do it until you got the kruc stamp to proc

[hoary kernel]

Yeah but why

[deft haven]

hmm, ur pfp
give sauce

[quick girder]

Why would you want the free stamp proc to proc on the kruc stamp?

[near summit]

Gains 📈

[novel atlas]

why dont you have 2 choco chips

[hoary kernel]

Sure

[near summit]

Depends on w6 jade unlock iirc

[jagged silo]

??

[gentle lava]

People who don't have poker chips unlocked from jade emporium got 2x choco chip this week

[novel atlas]

ooooo thats goated

[normal lagoon]

Yeah Lava should really make that thing an upg instead of downgrade

But we have another Choco next week anyway

[hoary kernel]

Game sucks, 1 star!

[gentle lava]

Yeah, like fix the omega motherboard never spawning

[normal lagoon]

As someone who starts with P: "1 star, game sucks!"

[normal lagoon]

Yeah I got my one from gamba

[hoary kernel]

Hmm, I wonder who here has name starting with P....

Wait I cant read

[orchid vale]

in the log flipping game, does it matter which card you click on?

[normal lagoon]

Honestly every week should be a shit chip (like the greens), an okay chip (like blue/red), and an actually useful chip (orange/black). Weird chips like Choco and Poker can replace shit/okay slots

[hoary kernel]

Lava should go fuk Himself

[sullen parrot]

yes

[hoary kernel]

Just make all the chip available to buy anytime

Fuk yu

[orchid vale]

but then you won't check in every week

[sullen parrot]

nah fr on foenem gravenm

[cloud flame]

so true

[hoary kernel]

Any game that make you has to log in everyday should go to hell

[hard canopy]

my first t9 cog T-T

[normal lagoon]

Why are you upset? Flaggy is the best type to get early

[hard canopy]

it is? well dang

[sullen parrot]

come on i need like 6 more quests

[normal lagoon]

Are all of your tiny cog slots open yet? No? Then why upset?

[sullen parrot]

then i do picnic then i get 300

[normal lagoon]

I also can't wait for Tab 2 of Construction Buildings

[quick girder]

Better Exotic/Stalk value????

[hoary kernel]

Why upset? In the end, it doesnt even matter

[normal lagoon]

Cuz like why else is Lava giving us insane bonuses

[cloud flame]

towers, shrines

[hoary kernel]

Ascended cog slot, place flag on existing slot to boost it further

[sullen parrot]

locked behind 5 packs

[hoary kernel]

But you only get 1 per month without pack

[near summit]

Oh god not another symbols but time gated this time instead of chance

[gentle lava]

max tower build time with ultra secret shop atom max level is a bit silly

[hoary kernel]

This game is just One (1) big time jail

[idle tulip]

someone’s upset 😭🙏🏻

[hoary kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/red-red-emoji-angry-emoji-raised-fist-fist-gif-4695612956741787895

[oblique heron]

Hello alice

Is this optimal?

[sullen parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dbz-dragon-ball-piccolo-standing-on-tower-tower-gif-13558229454457057953

[quick girder]

I sorta looked but didn’t see anything. Is there a “guide” for the exotic market in farming?

[oblique heron]

@crimson sorrel pow

[quick girder]

Like how “strong” each is

[oblique heron]

s==-=-=

[hoary kernel]

Do you think Bubba goes to the W3 Igloo Dungeon every week?

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/pro-gif-4045755597306104414

[normal lagoon]

I'm doing Exotic > Scientist myself

(sorry dentist came in, would have mentioned sooner lol)

[oblique heron]

scientist > dentist

which should i get

[quick girder]

dentist?

[oblique heron]

denstist came in

[drowsy sage]

did i hear my name?

[oblique heron]

polar or something

[grizzled agate]

https://tenor.com/view/repost-repost-if-chilling-chilling-cat-repost-if-chilling-cat-gif-11075040330977237050

[quick girder]

oh autocorrect, i didnt see the og messge before it was fixed lol.

[oblique heron]

@crimson sorrel is this good

[quick girder]

is the extra lvls for buying exotics, is that like giving you 2-3 lvls instead of 1? or is it lowering thew threshold of crop you need to hit for the next level?

[bleak gazelle]

same crops, more levels

[quick girder]

are there explanations for like the Crop Value max cap?

i thought i saw people talking about it a while ago

[mystic heart]

ello Mr banni

[quick girder]

https://klipy.com/gifs/heller-its-me

[fervent mulch]

That’s rly good mine went up from 120 to over 200 from 4 purchase

So basically almost I’ll double exotics from here on out

[thorn notch]

Should I burn my colo tickets to get kebabs or is that not worth it

[sullen parrot]

kebab 🍢

[quick girder]

whats your drop rate?

[thorn notch]

86x

[hoary kernel]

Waht does medal give?

[hoary kernel]

Not yet

[thorn notch]

Thanks 🙂

[quick girder]

just keep saving those tickets, id only spend them to do the quests where you need to clear the colos

[fervent mulch]

what the frik is that

[oblique heron]

medal sticker

where are stickers unlocked btw i don't remember

[hoary kernel]

I got this from 1 colo, this was amonth ago I think

[sullen parrot]

research grid

[hoary kernel]

Wow,

[quick girder]

meh

[fervent mulch]

hmmmm wonderinging if i should do medals

[crimson sorrel]

[quick girder]

just have a colum with the medal seeds

[fervent mulch]

thats genius

[oblique heron]

how much did u get

[oblique heron]

that doesn't tell me much

[crimson sorrel]

I get 310 lv with 10t something crops

[oblique heron]

whale

[fervent mulch]

can instant grows give medal stickers?

[crimson sorrel]

[quick girder]

is there a guide/explination for all the "upgrades" like the weight of each one, like a tier list?

[oblique heron]

how tho

[hoary kernel]

Syams, have you maxed all vial?

[crimson sorrel]

Not can but that is the only way

[hoary kernel]

Boobs hehe

[crimson sorrel]

Hear voice of ur heart

[crimson sorrel]

Nope

[normal lagoon]

(btw if anyone is pinging me for anything important, I'm sorry but between driving and dentist, I can't keep up on mobile )

[crimson sorrel]

@normal lagoon

[hoary kernel]

You dont have no vial left behind from Afro bubba pack?

[normal lagoon]

Hecc you

[hoary kernel]

@hoary kernel

[crimson sorrel]

I have that but I hit bob joe pickel everytime

[hoary kernel]

Bonjourpickle

[undone oar]

[crimson sorrel]

Did u got perfecto on t50

[normal lagoon]

Good luck on the Ps

[undone oar]

50 yes

[crimson sorrel]

[oblique heron]

@crimson sorrel how did you get a lot of exotic shop

hecker

[undone oar]

Also just spent 12 shakers to get t47

[crimson sorrel]

I get 9 purchase per week and hit some free exotic in starting and the free purchase ofc

[oblique heron]

no i mean how did you get 300 per 10t crops if i get only 210

[crimson sorrel]

Do u have 2600 lv better exotic

[oblique heron]

no why

[crimson sorrel]

And i got 261 on first purchase of week when I had 105t crops

[oblique heron]

hecker

[crimson sorrel]

I had 340 something lv in better exotic before

[oblique heron]

grrrr

[crimson sorrel]

oh i was lying i get 315 with 10t crops now

[sullen parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-minions-excited-gah-icanteven-gif-6365913475850204839

[oblique heron]

where dat from

[crimson sorrel]

i have old sheet

i just drag it to extend lvs

[oblique heron]

old sheet what

[crimson sorrel]

exotic lv sheet

[sullen parrot]

whats your arti chance

[oblique heron]

where is dat

[quick girder]

you dont get master class candies for skilling afk time right?

[sullen parrot]

yep, only fighting

[quick girder]

kk

[crimson sorrel]

how much crops need for specific lvs

u put legend point lv and better exotic and it calculate it

[sullen parrot]

i have max davey jones in gem shop and legend talent, 10 endercaptains and im at 300M find chance

dunno where yall getting billions from

[fervent mulch]

Got the idiot sticker

[crimson sorrel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pFbw_zrL3rvFeYwQ7acU_w8ecC_L_AcRmuMKC2ylPbM/edit?usp=drive_link

[fervent mulch]

took 600 instagrwos

[crimson sorrel]

heker

[oblique heron]

heker

[mystic heart]

evrbdy here cheeses the stikcer

nbdy did that shit legit

[normal lagoon]

"Congrats, but why go for the small fries?"

[mystic heart]

ello Mr Polar

[normal lagoon]

I'm going for the whole potato farm

[oblique heron]

шэь тще фе ьфсвщтфдвы

you knowwhatimean

[normal lagoon]

Hey, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

has literally no idea what was said

[warm yew]

trying to get that one for like 2 days lol

[undone oar]

Wdym

[normal lagoon]

Hecker

[mystic heart]

the chesse for 60k OG on medlas

[oblique heron]

I WAS REPLYING IN ENG BUT I DIDN'T CHANGE LANGUAGE JAJAJAJJA

[warm yew]

sorta

[sullen parrot]

i need to see a breakdown damn

[oblique heron]

heker

[warm yew]

idk where its from, endgame people have way way more

[normal lagoon]

Wait do you have some auto translate thingy?

[sullen parrot]

this is mine

[ancient grove]

Ingame I have purple print numbers, but Idleon toolbox is claiming I have no lab bonus on my prints. Is this normal? I'm not able to see the actual numbers for my prints due to this. I have doot and the lab bonus hooked up for reference.

[warm yew]

spelunking discoverries

[normal lagoon]

The color in 3D printer is weird and buggy. It's normal

[ancient grove]

Yeah I'm just trying to make sure my prints are actually 6x as they're supposed to be. First the colors bugged and now toolbox is saying I only have 3x, lol...

[sullen parrot]

?

[warm yew]

killroy please ty

[warm yew]

one of the things is spelunking discoveries

idk how that works into it

[sullen parrot]

yeah im not sure what in spelunking gives more arti chance

[crude plinth]

the amount of object types in duperbits

[sullen parrot]

right, thanks

[polar sparrow]

Where do you see this?

[sullen parrot]

toolbox, sailing, boats and captains

tf, NOBODY voted for this

[thorn notch]

Where should I farm drop rate cakes? Need to up my drop rate ><

[crude plinth]

wow he axed the masterclass drops lol

[quick girder]

you make them. farm the ingredient drops. clams and mooonmen

[quick girder]

wait for real?

im crystal farming so i cant check rn

[thorn notch]

There's a recipe?

[sullen parrot]

dont login to your mcs yet, it might be fixed later on

[sullen parrot]

yes, but you need a pretty decent DR for the recipe to drop itself 🤣

need dr for more dr to get more dr

[sullen parrot]

recipe dropped by w6 miniboss

[quick girder]

hahahah i forgot about that\

[thorn notch]

From the miniboss seriously .... damn

[sullen parrot]

yeah and its limited

so personally i would do it once you get other sources of DR better
because it sucks to fight the boss and not get the recipe and then have to wait weeks for it to respawn

[quick girder]

its not that hard to drop, just use your dk when you go kill your w6 miniboss

[thorn notch]

Thanks 🙂 so far for that idea

[sullen parrot]

personally i did that and it didnt drop, but again rng so 🤷‍♂️

[empty tapir]

the anniversary is soon

[hoary kernel]

Happy birthday

[drowsy sage]

dude anniversery means years since they're married

[quick girder]

you get the max number of w6 miniboss, save your daily crystals and then do the crystal run and get the orb up to like 2-3k

[empty tapir]

i hope the 4th anniversary bag comes back i got so unlucky💔

[drowsy sage]

@empty tapir happy marriage anniversary in advance ❤️

[hoary kernel]

Happy Chibese New Year

[drowsy sage]

tyyy!!

im from anatrctica tho

so happy polar bear day!!1

[hoary kernel]

Happy 1 Full Earth rotation around the Sun

[stone sinew]

Happy

[drowsy sage]

happy 1 revolution of moon around the earth

[novel atlas]

its so beautiful

[empty tapir]

i cant wait till 3rd quarter of 2026 for the new game

[light relic]

after me cloud save .Will be fix soon i guess

[empty tapir]

the bad part is that its probably not free😭

[light relic]

i have to play to earn 10 gems

[undone oar]

Wait we weren't joking with that jade multi????

[crude plinth]

nope, for some reason it's switched

[empty tapir]

i think im gonna vote the vials bonus

[undone oar]

We've reached new levels of spaghetti code with the simplest things in the game

[light relic]

nah its not jade it was something else

[undone oar]

It was MC time skip drops

[light relic]

yes now i just need masterclass farm multi

[undone oar]

I guess that means I should not claim these yet?

[sullen parrot]

dont, someone said he claim and it didnt multi

i would wait until lava fix

[undone oar]

[light relic]

one more till i get this

[sullen parrot]

wait how do u get high shiny chance again?

[undone oar]

How funny would it be if I get t54 perfecto last making it fully useless

[sullen parrot]

need to put traps with my WW?

[undone oar]

shiny food

[light relic]

is there a trick to getting perfecto? or all rng

[undone oar]

Placing traps on WW also helps for efficiency, but best thing is shiny food

[normal lagoon]

~2h 14m AFK

[light relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1058025982805688343/1479115002450542632/IMG_9874.gif

[sullen parrot]

DONT claim the mcs yet incase u havent seen

[undone oar]

It's honestly just filling your entire board with a specific sushi type and then hitting that shaker
T50 and T54 boost the chances

[sullen parrot]

thanks, upped my chance from like 0.08 to 25

[normal lagoon]

I DID SEE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS JADE THING

[sullen parrot]

the traps shiny chance is incosistent its weird

[light relic]

didnt someone say before it takes 2 hours or so to fully reset?

[sullen parrot]

i need the person that claims the traps to have the shiny food for the traps across all characters to have higher shiny chance? or every character needs shiny food?

[light relic]

rip i gave up t43 gonna try again soon

[crimson sorrel]

u can get 100% chance without food

[light relic]

but i have allot of cash tho just need more research unlocks

[sullen parrot]

i cant login to my WW now

[crimson sorrel]

100% on thers too

[sullen parrot]

its fine just need 100 diamond ducks

[crude plinth]

I've never used shiny food, you get so many shiny chance already

[sullen parrot]

then why i was at like 0.05 chance something

[normal lagoon]

It better fix itself or I will be PISSED

[crimson sorrel]

i can get 100% shiny chance on exp traps

[light relic]

fck it ima use the rest me need prisma drops

[crude plinth]

what level is your Petting the Rift bubble?

and just claim it on your WW with talents maxed

[crimson sorrel]

[sullen parrot]

yeah i think thats the problem, i placed trap on my dk

[crimson sorrel]

not this one

the green ones

[sullen parrot]

he asked for petting the rift 🤷‍♂️

[crimson sorrel]

this one is for breeding

[undone oar]

Bro it's so sad that my tier up messed up the perfect board

[sullen parrot]

wait...............

[crimson sorrel]

[undone oar]

Better like this

[vivid cipher]

Did the game bug out?

[plucky isle]

what the h

[crude plinth]

oh sorry yeah I meant the green one

[sullen parrot]

yeah everyone talks about it rn lol
surely it will get fixed soon

[undone oar]

No that's what most people voted

[crimson sorrel]

cloudsave

[vivid cipher]

didnt fix

[undone oar]

It's because of mobile

[crude plinth]

the pokemon name one, that should be enough

[plucky isle]

i have that thing after cloud

[undone oar]

Trust

[crimson sorrel]

wait for 1hr

[vivid cipher]

Bruh my characters are about to hit 48h...

[undone oar]

Just
Wait

[vivid cipher]

Gonna miss out on the merit bonus now

[undone oar]

No

You won't....

[quick girder]

it just wont give you anyhting over the 48 hrs

[vivid cipher]

Do you still get the bonus evne over 48?

[quick girder]

the frist 48 still good

[undone oar]

The merit only works for the FIRST 48 hours

[crimson sorrel]

polar told if u got more then 48h or first claim it count the 48

[undone oar]

[vivid cipher]

What if that's wrong

[undone oar]

I know it's not wrong

[vivid cipher]

Better see 96 items when its fixed

[light relic]

equinox update means rift update next means rift pets next means am broke again next

[crimson sorrel]

i trust polar

[normal lagoon]

People were saying it's fine from the last one so UNLESS HE CHANGED IT

[quick girder]

i forgot to do that.... i played CS2 for 20 hours and didnt check idlon. lol

[undone oar]

^ this

[vivid cipher]

So did Jade actually win or is it just bugged?

[crimson sorrel]

am gonna kill u if that happens

[vivid cipher]

I trust Polar, I don't trust Lava

[crimson sorrel]

jade was not even a choice

[quick girder]

its a visual bug for the first hour after it chnages

[crimson sorrel]

it was atom , mc , statue

[light relic]

17

[crimson sorrel]

i am nub

[novel atlas]

is the griffybit statue guide still relevant or is there a newer one

[light relic]

nubkeen missing 1.00

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[normal lagoon]

Just to be clear: I personally didn't hit 49h so I can't personally confirm it to be true

[crimson sorrel]

i dont have much from event and arcade

u whales

[normal lagoon]

I hit like 48h:58m on first claim

[crimson sorrel]

well it is still over 48

[normal lagoon]

But yeah if lava doesn't fix this, this is gonna cause an UPROAR next stream

[warm yew]

Its such an easy fix no?

I hope he changes it

[light relic]

wahh idk if theres one for meritocracy

[normal lagoon]

He already fucked us on a previous arcade when we voted for Emp Bonus but he gave us Nugget Regen

[normal lagoon]

There is

It's helix-fossil shaped

[light relic]

oooh i wasnt whale that time i think

[normal lagoon]

It was in November, the Fall event when W7 came out

[crimson sorrel]

whale

[normal lagoon]

I'm so glad I picked it up

Thank you Nooby Polar

This definitely isn't "just a visual bug" btw

[shadow lynx]

Fak u nooby liquid

[undone oar]

Yay

[light relic]

am nub whale

[undone oar]

Huge

[normal lagoon]

Yeah my Scroll of Power guy was NOT this good before.

[undone oar]

So real

[normal lagoon]

This one

[bleak gazelle]

surely i can just hit this twice and level up flowers again

[light relic]

bro has almost all

[novel atlas]

.

[crimson sorrel]

whale

[crude plinth]

easy button complete then if you're at that press

[undone oar]

Only reason I don't have all is because I didn't feel like it

[sullen parrot]

@normal lagoon can u come for 1 star game sucks quest

[empty tapir]

chat i think nekow quit or is on break💔

[normal lagoon]

I'm eating
Come to Cog 4, Frogs map if you need me lol

[undone oar]

Ones I'm missing are 3/4 useless perks

And imo the double cogs are mid at best

[sullen parrot]

appreciated

[normal lagoon]

[quick girder]

filter page is a must need

[sullen parrot]

@crimson sorrel yo come as well for a sec

[turbid hatch]

How can i reduce the minimu travel time for my sailors?

[light relic]

whale mentality fr if i was hgh id complete em all in a jiff

[undone oar]

Gem shop upgrade for w5

[normal lagoon]

FILTER AND VILLAGER EXP IS NOT USELESS

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

(also +2% output per day is nice what)

[undone oar]

[hoary kernel]

Cog 4, the server

[sullen parrot]

please 💔

[crude plinth]

Didn't know Discord advertised you as a pro Marvel Rivals player what the heck

[undone oar]

Villager exp was useless to me when the shop showed uip, except now he wants us to have the nerd at lvl200

[turbid hatch]

Only this and siege breaker perk?

[sullen parrot]

used to

[light relic]

ive been playing white fox

[sullen parrot]

i dont play ranked anymore, game is horrendous

[undone oar]

If you enable the widget, yes it does

[crude plinth]

I never enabled anything so this is new to me hmm

[undone oar]

What SB perk?

[turbid hatch]

The family tree bonus

[crude plinth]

The dog in pet breeding also reduces time

[shadow lynx]

And legend talent

[sullen parrot]

@crimson sorrel thank you 🐐

[crude plinth]

shiny dog*

[turbid hatch]

Haven’t reached it yet

[crimson sorrel]

so many whales

[light relic]

maybe u connect ur acount to discord from in game

[sullen parrot]

this swordpulse dude is almost lvl 1600

not even sure how thats possible

[quick girder]

nice trophy

[undone oar]

Why y'all running the wacky axe

[crimson sorrel]

wow pulse and tedi also on map

[light relic]

yeah and u get so much supertalents too

[crimson sorrel]

[sullen parrot]

mob respawn i assume

[shadow lynx]

Someone in my guild is 1700 (2 weeks ago) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090934993892691968/1489268048450818048/image.png?ex=69e24174&is=69e0eff4&hm=79e16dce4e26bbcebfbbc658e97edfb8c3b36ef4cca57e98d99c71725b8e6b54&

[undone oar]

Wth would you need from the frogs though that you min max that hard

[nocturne patrol]

Why frogs

[sullen parrot]

idk apparently its a new tech

[crimson sorrel]

respawn

[nocturne patrol]

Bored bean not best ?

[vivid cipher]

It's for mob respawn

[sullen parrot]

frogs with respawn rate > rams

but im lazy i still do rams

[shadow lynx]

Respawn makes the frogs spawn faster than dk talent

[undone oar]

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-attacker-jumpscare-frog-jumpscare-boo-gif-1410553638666856648

[shadow lynx]

If you have enough

[undone oar]

Yeah fuck that I'm not restacking with AC

[sullen parrot]

real

[light relic]

wtf new tech?

u can farm frogs for statue now?

[shadow lynx]

If you have enough respawn it’s probably better than your stacked rams with no crystal at frogs

[vivid cipher]

You could always farm frogs, it's just a better spot now

[crimson sorrel]

cluster

[light relic]

Delicious

[undone oar]

What's the reqs and why is suddenly respawn rate faster?

[shadow lynx]

One or two patches ago all w1-3 mob respawn rate got buffed

[crimson sorrel]

recent update made w1 resepawn faster

[undone oar]

Salts cap at 50?

[normal lagoon]

Reqs are pretty low, ideally 6/4 T3 keychains is the "hardest" part.

[shadow lynx]

5 10% nametags is the hardest part…

[quick girder]

hod do you have soo many salt?

[shadow lynx]

I’m super timelocked

[undone oar]

By not using them...

[quick girder]

how many do you get a day?

[normal lagoon]

I'm at 4x and I'm almost 2x the gains over Rams with WORSE DR

[undone oar]

I think 3?

[quick girder]

resapwn over drop rate for cluster famring?

[bleak gazelle]

lol

[shadow lynx]

Have u been reading lol scroll up

[normal lagoon]

SPECIFICALLY for Frogs, yes

[quick girder]

is it that much of a difference?

[normal lagoon]

@quick girder

[undone oar]

The thing is that you don't need the respawn talent

[quick girder]

hmm

[undone oar]

Don't think I have any respawn keychains

[oblique heron]

what

[undone oar]

Is this the good way for those frogs?

[normal lagoon]

Actually the worst of it might be the chips

[normal lagoon]

Ideally you get the missing 2 orange chips

[undone oar]

So like this

[normal lagoon]

Also if you don't have at LEAST 6/4 on your upper keychain, the 10% Mob Respawn chip is better

[empty tapir]

what should i level my alchemy cauldrons to?

[undone oar]

How?
6% chain would double into 12%, no?

[strong flame]

max

[mighty sage]

How do I beat it what I have rn

[normal lagoon]

Yes, but the red chip gives 10 as would the keychain chip if you have 6/4

Keychain chip doubles 6/4 to 12/8, but the chip's actual respawn is +10%

[undone oar]

Huh....

[normal lagoon]

Since the keychain without the chip is still 6/4

[undone oar]

Yes

[normal lagoon]

If you have a 6/6 then obv keychain chip is better, while 6/4 it's equal

[undone oar]

Without being doubled yes

But a 4/2 respawn chain would be doubled to 12% being better than 10% chip, no?

[hollow venture]

Don't put breedabilty mobs in your territories

[normal lagoon]

But you get the 4/2 regardless of chip or not, so the value of the chip is only 4/2

[undone oar]

But
It's doubled

[empty tapir]

i meant in the liquid section

[undone oar]

Oh

I can math
I get it now

[bleak gazelle]

doubling 6% is still only 6% extra

[normal lagoon]

There ya go.

[undone oar]

Shuddup!

[normal lagoon]

You were doubling the value of the chip and removing all value from the keychain itself

[undone oar]

:(

[crude plinth]

don't think you can beat it with what you have right now 😔

[normal lagoon]

Hey I could have hit you with the Lisa Simpson dinner or the Homer Simpson computer memes instead.

[undone oar]

Oh nyo

[mighty sage]

What should I focus

World 1 or 2 mobs

[quick girder]

dropping 200 dr for mob respawn doesnt sound like it would be good....

[undone oar]

These are my keychains lmao

[hollow venture]

Maybe if you have beaten troll and thus have tsar a looter can help you

[crude plinth]

world 2, need the snail and sand guy

[undone oar]

I don't do dungeons

[hollow venture]

No cause of pastpresent

Not yet anyway

[crude plinth]

does he have that unlocked even?

[undone oar]

This is worth it, right?

[crude plinth]

but yeah you might as well get them all, you also need glublin and sticks

[hollow venture]

Lvl 25 I think

[quick girder]

what else you gonna spend them on?

[undone oar]

Idk lol

[hollow venture]

And board is also good for more spices

[undone oar]

I got 875k flurbos

[pastel kayak]

@normal lagoon want the cold from here?

[oblique heron]

erm

[undone oar]

[idle tulip]

canada?

[alpine rune]

Killroy

[fervent mulch]

i sowre that that hapepned on other weeks and noone bleieved me thought i was going insane

[oblique heron]

where is mc

[alpine rune]

Same

[alpine rune]

Somewhere

[undone oar]

I guess that's alright

[alpine crest]

Does anyone know the places to fram dust

[empty tapir]

what should my liquid levels should be in alchemy(im in early-mid w5)

[undone oar]

Give me 1 sec

@alpine crest

[vivid cipher]

Liquid level isnt gonna matter much until you can do Cranium farming

[alpine crest]

Thanks

[fervent mulch]

juicy chart

[undone oar]

And ofc, dust bow with 1 element right and 1 dust ring

[normal lagoon]

Yes, gib

[normal lagoon]

Now get a second

Also "alright" for a VERY low chance at 6/4.

[normal lagoon]

I spent MILLIONS of Flurbos and got 3x 6/4 total, 0x 6/6.

[undone oar]

I got a 6/3 and 6/4

I'm fine with that

For now

[normal lagoon]

Make sure 6/4 is in top slot

[undone oar]

Ye

[normal lagoon]

Or just use the 10% chip over it

[undone oar]

And kruk chest/leg?

@normal lagoon Do I have to use w7 stones for extra respawn?

[quick girder]

this is what 43 garbage tier 3 keychains looks like

[undone oar]

[quick girder]

you should

also try and craft them until you get the extra upgrade slot

[undone oar]

Ah, right

Guess I'll do that when I'm back

[undone oar]

First gonna get some ice cream

[quick girder]

that sounds good... but ive been Xtremly bad for the last 6 months so i shouldnt/cant

[undone oar]

Even baddies deserve it

[quick girder]

im a glutton xD

[vivid cipher]

It's ok at least you're not rolling thru KFC rn

[quick girder]

i will say, im good about not eating "fast food", i do however drink copious amounts of alcohol

[normal lagoon]

Yes on the kruk pieces and Diab weapon
Also +1 Slot!!!

[quasi perch]

good to mf13 yall think?

[vivid cipher]

I feel that on another level

[faint wigeon]

(Top/bottom only)

[vivid cipher]

Although I've been good about drinking less

[quick girder]

boom

[faint wigeon]

[oblique heron]

we close

[vivid cipher]

I've got trillions of fish but my blue is still 1.9m

[quick girder]

your blue fish?

[oblique heron]

[crimson sorrel]

[quick girder]

what reset are you on for your kang?

[pastel kayak]

Sydney Australia

[quick girder]

ahhh i just accidently trashed a 298% xp ruby cog with a +124% build speed boost for a whole row....

[quick girder]

the neglect is real...

[crimson sorrel]

more

[quick girder]

PICKLES!

[oblique heron]

heker

[normal lagoon]

How long have you been playing?

[quick girder]

ermmmmmm

[oblique heron]

smh

[normal lagoon]

I'm never lucky at Poppy, but I also have 10 so

[crimson sorrel]

neglect is real

[mighty sage]

lol I won it

[quick girder]

i just started to activily check often like a month ago

[normal lagoon]

The NeverLucky in question:

[sullen parrot]

took me like 5 hours from 244 to 300

my god my brain hurts

[oblique heron]

pro

[crimson sorrel]

[oblique heron]

heker

[sullen parrot]

im at 30q

[quick girder]

im at 17Q...

[faint wigeon]

[crimson sorrel]

is there some guide to it

[faint wigeon]

W2 pins

[sullen parrot]

ping if mc week fixed please

[vivid cipher]

Yeah

[faint wigeon]

@sullen parrot idk if fixed

[vivid cipher]

Looks like this, I've neglected it for a while

[crimson sorrel]

[oblique heron]

@ping if thanthos fixed

[quick girder]

i heard tarter fish was what you wanted to focus on over the other bonuses. havent looked since like the week it came out.

[fervent mulch]

Still only at 259 quests even though it feels like I did 4440026

[quick girder]

does this mean like actual mob drop coins?

[hollow venture]

it's a later bubba mechanic

[normal lagoon]

If you're not on MF10 => 11, Savvy is kinda pointless IMO

It used to be good on 9=>10 but with the Upgrade Vault and Sushi, it's really unnecessary on 9

[ancient grove]

Obol farming feels wayyyyy better now that I finally have the crescent shrine.

Do all the crystal mobs have the same odds of dropping the silver pens?

[north peak]

DADOUMS

[north peak]

dadooouuuuumms

[hollow venture]

it seems roughly equal

hard to say because in multiple drop tables

[ancient grove]

I'd like to push my PO box for that extra crystal spawn but the pens are pretty slow still.

[faint wigeon]

Evileth Tusk

[north peak]

GUEZZ WHAT

[faint wigeon]

[north peak]

Guess teehee

[mighty sage]

Wasted 36 eggs and 219 laddles for getting this

[faint wigeon]

Got lucky lad?

[north peak]

No

[faint wigeon]

1.5x in frogs?

[rustic urchin]

Wtf is this merit jade bullshit

[rustic urchin]

I’ve been sitting my MCs for 2 days for nothing?

[crimson sorrel]

Not even 5% smh

[faint wigeon]

Nice

[faint wigeon]

Wait. Surely it’ll get fixed right?

[crimson sorrel]

[rustic urchin]

I’ll be waiting for sure. Seems scammer lava is back at it

[north peak]

40k TOME SCOOOORE

[normal lagoon]

Man Lava just ruined my whole day

[faint wigeon]

Forgot to not claim my char for the 48h merit but dang

Curse you Bayle Lava!

[hollow venture]

is there a kind sould arround here that could help me with that ?

[crimson sorrel]

Now going to sleep and my 8 more hr going get wasted

[normal lagoon]

Technically not wasted if they're still generating tokens, but it does suck it's just 1x instead of 5.302x

I'm sitting on them til the update stream at the very least (unless he actually says sooner that he's fixing/not fixing it)

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-eyebrow-god-of-war-gif-27143599

LAVA. DROP THE MERIT FIX AND MY SOUL IS YOURS (already is because we idleon player)

[normal lagoon]

More like "Lava, fix the merit or I'm done buying your bundles".

[rustic urchin]

Kek as if people would stop that

[normal lagoon]

Hi, I would.

It would probably kill my drive to even play the game.

[rustic urchin]

Yikes

[normal lagoon]

I really don't like being scammed like that

[thorn notch]

If you click on trophy's they disappear. How are you supposed to craft the W1 items? Do the quests again on another car?

[rustic urchin]

Trophies don’t disappear though?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah I have to do the stupid w2 trophy quest two more times now

[rustic urchin]

Oh tokens

[thorn notch]

That easy 😄

[rustic urchin]

Yeah you can stockpile token

In fact…

[bleak gazelle]

once upon a time you couldn't

[rustic urchin]

Buying pig tokens just for fun

[trail ore]

too bad the w3 quests are so bad ;_;

[empty tapir]

what should my equinox progession be like?

[faint wigeon]

What’s your current progression in the game? Like worldwide, summoning, rift and sum other

[idle tulip]

oh shoot

[lofty kindle]

Uhh, what happened?

[rancid elm]

Yo guys why did merit change to jade

[faint wigeon]

@normal lagoon send the thing

Nvm

[fervent mulch]

Has anyone else noticed this

[rancid elm]

So I wana know should I take my ac out and do cc or wait for lava to fix

[hard crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312317435071959090/1494400327842140402/togif.gif

[bleak gazelle]

soon

[normal lagoon]

I'm personally waiting til tomorrow, but man I'll be pissed if he doesn't fix since I could have been CCing this whole time

[jagged silo]

[faint wigeon]

…

[undone oar]

My rates at frogs for zenith clusters are dogshit because my dude just gets stuck on the top 2 platforms

[faint wigeon]

Didnt notice

[undone oar]

How fix

[normal lagoon]

Is your Mongorang maxed or 425?

[jagged silo]

where is mc week...

[undone oar]

it's 425

[normal lagoon]

Weird; it should fix itself after a sec or two

[fervent mulch]

sandy pots was unexpectedly decent

[jagged silo]

I should do amber run

[fervent mulch]

didnt like red mushrooms a lot

[lofty kindle]

[undone oar]

Get it to 301

[lofty kindle]

[fervent mulch]

Juicy wood

Im at 296

[undone oar]

I like how the build amount needed for the luck one is lower than the one before it

[deep fable]

Hi i saw a magic beans bonus at somewhere but cant find it now can someone help me

It increases the amount of magic beans i get

[normal lagoon]

Upgrade Vault

[deep fable]

Oh was it that simple lol thanks

[normal lagoon]

Might be idk meng. There's a few bonuses for beans

[sullen parrot]

guys why is the merit week on jade and not mc

[normal lagoon]

@sullen parrot

[sullen parrot]

@oblique heron bro fix it already

[fervent mulch]

It’s not what we voted for

[lament trench]

i was so excited to claim MCs only to find out its bugged

[sullen parrot]

fixed

[faint wigeon]

@sullen parrot fixed

[lament trench]

thank god i read here first

[sullen parrot]

cloudsave or restart game

make sure u see it in the w7 merit

[fervent mulch]

Muh jade gains 😭

[oblique heron]

where

[jagged silo]

ohhh!!!!

[oblique heron]

diddy fix alr?

[jagged silo]

cloudsave

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/epstein-diddy-epstein-vs-diddy-domain-expansion-gif-16007208464559825312

i'm not even playing

[jagged silo]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cheek-gif-18087907055660124622

[bleak gazelle]

but i need to hit my next flower level

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/virágok-flowers-roses-red-roses-bouquet-gif-11140387824860025949

[jagged silo]

just don't leave

but u r not in w6 town

[sullen parrot]

this is not in the game yet right

[jagged silo]

nuh

next map fish

[oblique heron]

i suc

[granite owl]

Is there any reason to kill this fella after killing him the first time?

[faint wigeon]

Elixir

[sullen parrot]

not for now, but later on u have a thing that u get elixir when u kill a boss

[granite owl]

Ah, okay. Thanks 👍

[ancient kestrel]

Yep, you can get up to 3 elixirs per kill from mid-late upgrade nodes

[sullen parrot]

lvl 60?

[fickle hornet]

I skipped a daily reset cause I was playing osrs all day

[raw horizon]

So can I log onto my mcs or am I being baited?

[fickle hornet]

ye

perfect amount of hours

[thorn notch]

can you candy cloudsound followers. Such a stupid amount even on my es

[ancient kestrel]

I just left the quest acquired on all my characters and didn't think about it for several weeks

IDK if that's optimal but it worked out for me

[fickle hornet]

weekly boss this week is funny

[red grail]

W5 chat u guys r hole and w5 masters right?

Would you say nightmare kruk USED to be a great dps check?

[fickle hornet]

I mean used sure

but you could do him the intended way

I definitely had a 5 min nightmare kruk kill

without any moles touching him

[thorn notch]

Not a bad idea. I still need to 6* poops. So might overnight those

[red grail]

Kruk was hard when I first fought him

First thing I had to actually min max my damage

[pastel kayak]

@normal lagoon colder now here

[normal lagoon]

GIB

[pastel kayak]

Can have

[normal lagoon]

I can PERSONALLY confirm it worked, but I did close the game first to be safe.

[normal lagoon]

💖

Thanks MCs

[undone oar]

Good or bad rates? x12k dr

[simple wadi]

Decided to collect my summoning exp.

[undone oar]

What's your summoning lvl?

[simple wadi]

265, nothing impressive. I wanted to see if that fixes the lag I experience opening the summoning board. Turns out no, no it does not.

[undone oar]

Also actually these aren't correct because my daily reset happened during this