lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fickle hornet]

I had 4k DR

[normal lagoon]

Then I have no clue where your problem was unless you just invested nothing in DR => Tempest DR

Cuz I sure as shit didn't have 4k when I pushed the MCs

[fickle hornet]

I invested in it heavily too

rng just didnt do stuff

when class all damage is based on rng its not fun is the point

even with good droprate , looking through every bow dropped for hours on end

and getting jack is not fun gameplay

[mystic heart]

i got Kindred in aram

guys kindred or seju what do i pick

[fickle hornet]

my condolences

[normal lagoon]

Why are you asking for help with another game? This is a Wendy's.

[tropic quiver]

I’m having a big problem with accuracy in w6

[mystic heart]

waht do you meaaan shes so cool

[fickle hornet]

pick aurelion

[dawn mulch]

im hard stuck mid world 6 trying to push past leeks but my characters dont get but maybe 20k kills an hour any tips i struggle with accuracy

[mystic heart]

whats a wendys

[normal lagoon]

@tropic quiver

[tropic quiver]

Tyyy

[normal lagoon]

Willing to bet this is your biggest issue, and honestly, ACC issues in W6 is crazy, usually those are resolved in 4/5

[deft hazel]

You know what, I completly didnt believe but ill be damned

[fickle hornet]

click the prisma

[deft hazel]

Just got my first lol

[normal lagoon]

That's why I joined in to mention cuz 2 people saying the same thing is more believable than one

[dawn mulch]

why wont it switch to multi kill

[near summit]

Max dmg not acc

[mystic heart]

mouse doesnt lie

[normal lagoon]

FTR: I don't think it's an intended mechanic, but when Lava leaves bugs in for YEARS, they switch from Exploit to Feature and I don't feel bad using them

[old kindle]

did this guy eat my characters

[fickle hornet]

[oblique heron]

yep permadeath

[mystic heart]

dont use that metric, i know ALOT of ppl who got banned for smth that was in the game for 3 years

[fickle hornet]

[mystic heart]

i got that yesterday

[fickle hornet]

do I just hold the bricks on a character so they dont atom

and level like that?

[normal lagoon]

Like, at what point are you supposed to know what's a bug and what't not if it never gets fixed?

[raw marten]

only on WW plus they all on lab is it still wroth?

[normal lagoon]

Inb4 Game Freak retroactively bans you from modern Pokemon for using ANY status move to abuse Badge Boost Glitch in Gen 1.

[tropic quiver]

Mines at almost 40, slowing down bc bloach is hard to print rn

[normal lagoon]

!db v do this on ALL MCs immediately; no idea what you're referring to with Lab.

[obtuse orbit]

How to get AFK Deathbringer:

Step 1) Go on your Deathbringer and turn on Wraith Form.
Step 2) Kill things for a while. The faster your kills, the quicker you'll get it done, but go do murder.
Step 3) After collecting 1000 fragments, hold click on them. Boom! You've unlocked afk bones!
Step 4+) When you afk on your DB, you'll receive 1 Charred Bone for every hour your afk session is. Afk for 2h40m? That's 2 Charred Bones.

Notes:

• If you have 2 DB's, you only need to do this once.
• To get Charred Bones, you must be afk'ing combat. It doesn't matter whether you're in Wraith Form or not. And no, no candy.
• When using Charred Bones, they are based off your current AFK Info display. Run a Tomb cycle first, then consume the item just as you would a candy.
• When using Charred Bones, you can click and hold them to continually consume them. They behave just like balloons.

[raw marten]

they havent reached lvl 75 lab

they on gohaurt or whatever the div is called

[normal lagoon]

That, shouldn't really matter for anything right now.
If you want to keep them in lab that's fine, but just unlock the AFK tokens ASAP

[fickle hornet]

is this even good

I assume its library checkout speed

so I trash it

[normal lagoon]

Library speed is multiplicative

[raw marten]

u da goat brody

[fickle hornet]

I can already get all skills to max level without issue

[hoary kernel]

Why do you dress like a goth girl

[mystic heart]

not to slander or anything, but lava is rly butthurt ab stuff like that so he bans evry easy

[near summit]

Are u setting up ur nslb? Otherwise why trash it

[fathom chasm]

How shoud I place my shapes?

[dire seal]

heh? anyone knows what this means?

[hoary kernel]

Basic attack noe do arcane damage

[vestal locust]

is it worth doing 2 DB afk rn or should I keep 1 in kitchen?
i have all meals unlocked (lvl 30-38)
before lava spices

[near summit]

Basic attacks now do arcane dmg

[mystic heart]

your basic attackcsn ow do arcane damage

[normal lagoon]

It means you can now auto attack arcane mobs and spawn a skull from doing so

The latter part is very important

[dire seal]

you know that even without this upgrade you spawn skull?

[raw marten]

whats the priority

[lofty kindle]

The skull was what did arcane damage before, not your basic attack

[near summit]

Uhhh u sure about the skull part? Thought that was a talent thingy

[normal lagoon]

On non-arcane mobs

[vestal locust]

not on Arcane mobs tho

[near summit]

Ahh cool

[dire seal]

what are arcane mobs? those big with crystal above their head?

[normal lagoon]

@dire seal @near summit I've been through this convo before: Without the upgrade, your autos do nothing to arcane mobs and if you do, you will not get a skull spawn

[lofty kindle]

Got the level 60 observation

[vestal locust]

monster spawned from crystal pylon

[normal lagoon]

It will be CRITICAL to progging in W5+

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

when your issue isn't spawning mobs, but killing them

[dire seal]

okay, thank you for explanation, got it

i thought it spawns skulls even on arcane mobs

[lofty kindle]

[normal lagoon]

It's more or less a huge QoL issue for early worlds, and a CRITICAL upgrade for later worlds

[hoary kernel]

Syailendra, Guess what

[normal lagoon]

There was likely a normal mob hiding behind an arcane and you auto'd that one

[crimson sorrel]

what nakami

[normal lagoon]

This HAS been tested the last time this conversation came up, trust.

[lofty kindle]

Lava changed it with the newest patch, trust

[vestal locust]

bubo passive that multi hits actually target random mobs if it's more than 1, so you probably hit normal mob

[hoary kernel]

Guess

[crimson sorrel]

i am only getting 6.5 u haker

[normal lagoon]

I MEAN, ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY

Sushi going to 1.5x RXP "on accident", suddenly going back to 2x 🤔

[crimson sorrel]

guess

[normal lagoon]

Almost like he initially intended to nerf it and then realized the backlash would be immense cuz RXP is a bitch and forgot to fix it.

[vestal locust]

how do ppl scale WW tempest dmg?
Im stuck in w4 with 40k dmg.......

[lofty kindle]

Equinox upgrade maybe? Or maybe the level of the specific observations? Cuz I still have less total observation levels than you

[fickle hornet]

I am in pain

[crimson sorrel]

i got equinox to lv 3

[lofty kindle]

Weapon. The only stat on your weapon that matters is Weapon power

[lofty kindle]

That'd probably do it

[normal lagoon]

Weapon + WP Rings (PMush)

[normal lagoon]

Imagine already having 10 pts in it what the fuck

[fickle hornet]

oh yeah thats the pain

[normal lagoon]

I don't even have it UNLOCKED

[vestal locust]

thanks
time to grind some more enchant stones :/

[normal lagoon]

(and I only got like 1 pt since yesterday)

[hoary kernel]

Definitely legit

[lofty kindle]

Benefits of being a new player My cost is low

[normal lagoon]

breh

[crimson sorrel]

heker

[fickle hornet]

new player

[normal lagoon]

Yeah I wish I could reset my upgrades

It's so rude

[crimson sorrel]

only got 3 gd

[lofty kindle]

This also probably helps

[crimson sorrel]

but atleast got more amber

not like i going to use those amber

[fickle hornet]

@crimson sorrel whats your daily amber

[lofty kindle]

Did you neglect equinox?

[crimson sorrel]

dubble of this and a q at end

[fickle hornet]

perchance

[shadow lynx]

Huh where am I missing so much

What did you have before the update

[fickle hornet]

I didnt neglect equinox tasks

[hoary kernel]

I use my persona to get it, 9 red in a row

[fickle hornet]

I just didnt upgrade much

[lofty kindle]

Like 80k?

[crimson sorrel]

[lofty kindle]

Not sure, but here's my breakdown

[shadow lynx]

Shit I’m at like 15k

[lofty kindle]

Arcade, tome, and vial are all hugely important

[fickle hornet]

gamba balls at it again

[crimson sorrel]

we done it boys

[lofty kindle]

So expensive

[fickle hornet]

[shadow lynx]

wait where is tome from

[crimson sorrel]

coral

[lofty kindle]

2nd to last anemone coral

[amber solstice]

do i care for total drop rate cards for dk crystal farming

[shadow lynx]

oh shit

[prime wasp]

Yes, crystal spawn and dr

Card dr is passive now

[lofty kindle]

Tome bonuses from coral

[fickle hornet]

why am I so poor what happen

[shadow lynx]

[amber solstice]

alr thx. wasnt sure if it was the same loot multi

[fickle hornet]

I had so many balls

[shadow lynx]

only 79/day

i guess i need to wait for that

[lofty kindle]

Missing research and equinox oh no

[crimson sorrel]

nub

[lofty kindle]

Divinity grind time

[lofty kindle]

True I am nub

[fickle hornet]

I mean coral is overrated

[shadow lynx]

i haven't done div since i got all gods

[lofty kindle]

Coral kid's final upgrade gives more coral per day

[crimson sorrel]

this is so bad

[shadow lynx]

idk if this is decent

[prime wasp]

Idk

[fickle hornet]

welcome back

[shadow lynx]

[lofty kindle]

More than me tbh

[prime wasp]

I am also top 10%

I need to get to 5% soon but until masterclass week drops I really don't want to

[crimson sorrel]

@oblique heron

[oblique heron]

Hecker

[crimson sorrel]

gd only good for amber now

it not effecting pow as much

[crimson sorrel]

i have to read 3 and 4 more

and fuk cave 5

[haughty fiber]

Catching up on my stamps. i have neglected a bit too many mechanics so ill do world 1 first and then up from there.

[hoary kernel]

What to do with coral now after all max

[fickle hornet]

stack them up for new coral

new coral in P7 of W7

[hoary kernel]

W3 part 7 when

[fickle hornet]

soon tm

[cloud glade]

soonalt0153

[lofty kindle]

You can just type :tm: and it'll work btw

[crimson sorrel]

™

[cloud glade]

yes that is why i italicized it

[hoary kernel]

Weak

[lofty kindle]

™

[hoary kernel]

soon™

[lofty kindle]

™

[crimson sorrel]

[haughty fiber]

i just got all my current master classes up and running but all my mechanics are too low to even utilise them.

[loud cloak]

Made it to the rift number 49! Now just have to afk kill!

[quick girder]

who else has neglected DB?

[loud cloak]

Getting 2 non mages with terrible gear to kill the healing giant was messy, but I did it with a bit of bubbles and card optimizing

[near summit]

I wish afk bones counted.....

[quick girder]

so im def gonna just do this part later lol

[quick girder]

if only

[lofty kindle]

I haven't touched DB in a while, I think all of my bone gains are now like 10kx higher

[hoary kernel]

Goony goon goon goons

[crimson sorrel]

somehow need 4t to farm 2nd map of w7

[normal lagoon]

Man why Dice Luck when you can just roll like this

[crimson sorrel]

who need dice when u can spam meat

[normal lagoon]

I don't have coins yet, so I don't wanna spam meat.

[lofty kindle]

[stone wing]

huh

[normal lagoon]

FTR I just got 5th die

and I went from like 100 to this 292

[stone wing]

i havent opened in like a month

[lofty kindle]

Same lol I rolled the 309 on like my third roll after getting 5th die and haven't rolled that high since

[loud cloak]

Ruby cards so good, and Killroy prime is ever near

[lament trench]

[crimson sorrel]

quit

[fervent mulch]

Oh 😮 I thought I saw you

Are you milktealubr

[stone wing]

afk trust

[fervent mulch]

sry i dragged u here hahaa i rllrly thought i saw you

[stone wing]

not me

[fervent mulch]

milktea is popular among idleoners

[stone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1220155822563131463.gif?quality=lossless&name=airihug&size=48

[normal lagoon]

Man this has hit twice this week

Like I'll take it but I sure would like better ones.

Oh nice, rolled a 100 on a 101+ obs 🥴

[rustic urchin]

great, my next 200 cheapest upgrades are from w5, and I can't get through the w4 aboms for shit

[normal lagoon]

I'll go fuck myself.

[fervent mulch]

is it that one where it keeps making u jump off the ledge at trench fish

[oblique heron]

hecker

[oblique heron]

no! don't do this

[crimson sorrel]

do it

[normal lagoon]

Chat wtf is happening

Of course when I want to lose I don't.

I am whittling his ass down

[warm yew]

🤑

[oblique heron]

🥴

[normal lagoon]

Well that was easy

[oblique heron]

yep

thisis how ys is done

[prime wasp]

I will do mine soon

[normal lagoon]

I am losing my shit

ftr the one between the 7/5 at the top was a wiggle

and I still had a shield

So I only had 1 left so I was like "okay fuck it I guess"

[fervent mulch]

minehead is crazy

[oblique heron]

what's about yourhead

[quick girder]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wow-oh-my-god-7

[crimson sorrel]

who is giving head

[lofty kindle]

ez dub

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/universitario-y-dale-u-gif-1331533523682704653

[crimson sorrel]

nub

[quick girder]

I wanna click again

[oblique heron]

do it

[quick girder]

theres 2 mines left

[crimson sorrel]

dont do it

[oblique heron]

click until u oneshoy his ahh

[quick girder]

FUCCCKCKCKCKCKC

[shadow lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-bubbles-homelander-blowing-bubbles-gif-11894150303476827467

[glass imp]

whats the best source of artifact find chance? im trying to get all omnipotent

[hoary kernel]

[prime wasp]

Hi Takemi

[quick girder]

so close

[timid drift]

On sneaking, should i try to get funky hat from lobby or 12 floor?

[mystic heart]

Lobby bc no item drops

[quick girder]

lol

[prime wasp]

I got it from the 12th floor myself

when I was farming pristines

[quick girder]

new grid tile is dope

[prime wasp]

That's nice

[lofty kindle]

Nah, lobby is 1 in 10k, floor 12 is 1 in 20k

[hoary kernel]

Idleon "Jame Jenkins" Lore

[prime wasp]

Hmm

[normal lagoon]

How does one complete this again?

[lofty kindle]

Plus Lobby has base hat drop which clogs inventory

[quick girder]

tomrrow

[normal lagoon]

No there's a way to actually complete it, I just don't remember how

[hoary kernel]

Afk in nothing for 1 hour

[crimson sorrel]

6.7

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-edit-analog-horror-phonk-gif-3349401281762803381

[glass imp]

is there a guide on research? i get very little exp per hour (around 87,000)

[crimson sorrel]

use optimizer from w7 pins

[lofty kindle]

Hopefully some day I'll get that good

[crimson sorrel]

just get 67 instead of 6.7

[fervent mulch]

basically you need to grind insight levels and sacrificice exp for a while in order to gain exp that will increase your long term xp/hour in exchange for a short term sacrificie

[glass imp]

ok thank you

[deep star]

Do the Costs for the alchemy bubbles resets sometimes or get cheaper?

[warm yew]

Yo @normal lagoon

Are you done the first killroy equinox

[fervent mulch]

they could get cheaper by perhaps unlocking a buff, like say for instance if you werent connected in lab before but are now

[normal lagoon]

I'm done with all non-nightmare clouds yeah

[normal lagoon]

If the character you're on (excluding VMan)'s class color matches that of the bubble, it's cheaper

[fervent mulch]

oo good catch sir polar

[normal lagoon]

Example:

[warm yew]

Bruh

1 month diff gg

[fervent mulch]

need a kill a snakenhotep but tbh that dungeon makes me feel like i had a lobotomy

[deep star]

I am not sure but i always find bubbles that are level 20 and the costs are not over 1k material. That should not be normal i think, other bubbles at same level are about 10k material.

[normal lagoon]

Daily crystals going hard

[deep star]

yeah thats a nice information, are there other important information and tips like this?

[normal lagoon]

Actually yes, the lab node for 2x Vial bonus, you can DISABLE that to intentionally make material costs more expensive to potentially push things in Atom range sooner.
(make sure to map change after switching a node's status for it to update)

[deep star]

or are there any tips how to level ur bubbles over level 5000? Just 3d printer ?

[normal lagoon]

You leave the node on, plus the liquid shop's Bubble Discount thingy to make something cheap, then pump it up, then turn OFF the lab node for vials and push their costs higher and possibly Atomable

[near summit]

Hourly clicks if possible

[mystic heart]

booooooo

[near summit]

Ik

[crimson sorrel]

[timid drift]

which map do you farm on?

[normal lagoon]

If it's early world mats, you can candy and leave items on the floor as you upgrade, or just hit nodes cuz they're low skill efficiency requirements

[normal lagoon]

Frogs

[deep star]

Oke nice thx, still dont got the atom range, but when i do, i will follow ur advice

[crimson sorrel]

just candy click

[timid drift]

is frong better than beans with DK?

[mystic heart]

me thunk rams

for cluster

[fervent mulch]

i would bet money on inherently lower material costs or slower scaling for prices

there's also undeveloped cost bubble (yellow cauldren) each color has a bargain bubble, the barley brew vial (iron bar vial) and also class speicifc bargains, if any of those will help

oh and the nitrogen discount tag for a one time buff

[normal lagoon]

"Always has been"

Idk who spread the "do beans, it's best" joke, but it's not funny. Frog is way better, especially now where you don't have to kill every single frog to trigger respawns (with high mob respawn gear)

[deep star]

Thxx!

[fervent mulch]

np wih s i could be more help

[deep star]

U help more than expected 🙂

[sullen parrot]

wait, no rams?

[normal lagoon]

Frogs is better now with the respawn changes; Rams was better

[fervent mulch]

imagine if lava added qol to make all single click buttons able to be hold click 😮 tha twould be best update of all time

[normal lagoon]

Gear FTR; P2W stuff optional; try to get at least 10% on the mob respawn keychains (6%/4% rolls); W7 stones on the weapon/chest/legs (KEEP CRAFTING TIL YOU GET +1 SLOT)

[mystic heart]

when p2w respawn chains polar

[normal lagoon]

Keychain example, aim for this; 6/6 is extremely unlikely

[haughty fiber]

huge after upgrading all my stamps since world 2, my 6k kills per hour jumped to 11k kills per hour, yippie. in world 6

[normal lagoon]

If you need more stuff to do... (post inc)

[mystic heart]

i think they havent beeen in shop for like 2 years

[haughty fiber]

oh no, but i will check this out. i need to.

[normal lagoon]

The ones I linked are the dungeon ones; I don't have P2W keychains of any kind

[mystic heart]

ik, i was reffereing to my joke

since they havent reapeard in ages

[normal lagoon]

By the time I joined, most of the FOMO stuff was gone; Bling Pendant and Draconic Cauldrons were in the shop but sadly I was too noob to know what I was losing out on by not taking them

[fervent mulch]

negative 7 keychain must come from tier 2 keychain?

[sullen parrot]

what changes im confused

[normal lagoon]

I'm just hopeful the 5th anniv event brings back the 4th anniv nametag somehow

[normal lagoon]

3

[fervent mulch]

ohhhhhhh huh tyy

[normal lagoon]

Read the first line
#patch-notes📝 message

[mystic heart]

imagine no anniv tag

[prime wasp]

I have

[mellow blade]

after getting all 15 caves in the hole do i invest my opals to majik or schematics

[normal lagoon]

I have every single anniversary nametag I ever had the chance to have access to.

And it's this piece of garbage.,

Wait 1.7? That seems wrong

[mystic heart]

yeah i also have that one its so goated

[normal lagoon]

Supposed to be 1.86 but OKAY IT

[mystic heart]

i even hav multiple

[sullen parrot]

well its also for w3 (rams) so still not sure why frogs are better but aight lol
ill farm at frogs now

[normal lagoon]

Well I only ever got access to 1

[normal lagoon]

You need respawn to make it better

[fervent mulch]

imagine going to frogs and not filtering green headband lul

[normal lagoon]

Oof.

Frogs are better w/ respawn because Rams you just oneshot the whole row and then DI (Divine Intervention) kicks in and brings them back

Frogs have insane mob density VERY spread out, which makes it hard for DI to trigger consistently, so you just let the Mob Respawn gear do the work

[strong shuttle]

wow

[normal lagoon]

Which is what makes Frogs better, if they respawn fast enough.
Rams will never get a chance to respawn automatically because it's one platform

[fervent mulch]

juicy captain

[crimson sorrel]

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/100juicy-hundred-percent-juicy-delicious-yummy-tasty-gif-15949714

[strong shuttle]

you not done yet ?

[oblique heron]

nub

[crimson sorrel]

no

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-you-adam-sandler-gif-13760997572821101242

[fervent mulch]

safe to say i wont be killin frogs today, need at least some mob respawn

[rustic urchin]

didn't even know this speed existed

[strong shuttle]

frogs ?

[fervent mulch]

juicy frog legs

[strong shuttle]

are you french ?

[fervent mulch]

what the frik that bow looks amazing

naw but the people that make the meta are looool

[oblique heron]

@crimson sorrel did u buy all land plots

[crimson sorrel]

no

[oblique heron]

okay

how mucg defense you all have

[crimson sorrel]

maybe 100m on warrior

[lofty kindle]

Okay, time to try out frogs I guess

[crimson sorrel]

get 1.5x ac multi

[lofty kindle]

I have 1.25x, which is nearly the same as my rams multi

[oblique heron]

how so pro

[crimson sorrel]

[lofty kindle]

Almost mf9 too

I'm probably close enough to start opening gifts, I think

[crimson sorrel]

just open gift u already have mf9

or emplify rizz

[lofty kindle]

Oh, that was easier than I expected

I thought it'd take like 10-20

I just continue to take gift 1 and 5, right?

[crimson sorrel]

yes

[lofty kindle]

Aight bet

[oblique heron]

yes

[sick temple]

Might sound like a dumb question, but is gear super important for pushing W6? I am sure it HELPS, but is it make or break? On my alt account, main account I just AFK'd for weeks at a time and forgot about the game lol

[oblique heron]

i didn't check in for a couple of days and overlvled rizz grrrr

[oblique heron]

gear is a small fraction but still helpfull

[lofty kindle]

Depends on what exactly you're upgrading from imo. If you're at troll or kruk gear, it'll be negligible. If you're sitting at like w1 or w2 gear, it'll probably help more than you expect

[oblique heron]

[haughty fiber]

im currently on imperial atm, since i neglected my salts atm.

just unlocked the null salts last month.

[sick temple]

Mostly Dementia and Void gear right now, working on weapons but was wondering if I need to get full suits of armor upgraded too.

[lofty kindle]

Nah, the armor can be postponed tbh

You'll probably get more benefit out of upgrading tools and putting upgrade stones on them for stats

[hollow venture]

it's easy upgrades till you get to ones requiring nullo salts

[prime wasp]

Troll armor. That was a pain

[haughty fiber]

my characters currently just doing this, but i might put em back into the lab/ divinity as i havent leveled divinity much, and labs every char is lvl 75 or so.

[hollow venture]

what do you guys think : is a 2nd sb or ww better rn ? still haven't made my choice i have an archer sitting in lab for quite a while i should choose

[lofty kindle]

Unfortunately, the answer is that currently both options suck

WW is good, but doesn't need a 2nd one, and it'll limit prints because WW sucks at skilling print

[tawny whale]

Hi guys, i need some advice how to goes up my main dk. I unlock first master classes, but my stats (damage) really suck, i can't feel well in W6

[thorny wave]

2dk 2 ele sorc, 1 ww, 1 sb, 1 ac, 2db, 1 vman (or 2sb instead of 2dk

[lofty kindle]

And SB is SB, and is only useful for catching prints, but once again, you don't need 2

[thorny wave]

2sb isn't that bad

[lofty kindle]

Not taking 2 DK is outright stupid

[oblique heron]

if you intend to do monuments

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/bamboozled-gotcha-tricked-tricked-you-got-you-gif-12466791

[thorny wave]

u should try to get all enderman/ loot value+boat speed with like atleast 15% in both base for now

[strong shuttle]

why are you lying

[oblique heron]

[hollow venture]

I think he'll just keep on chilling in lab at least until we get to the end of the countdown to 10, then i'll see depending on what happens

[tawny whale]

Maybe i missed some eazy-cheezy stat mechanic

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[sullen parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[lofty kindle]

Step 1 is to ignore anything that @thorny wave says

[thorny wave]

🙂

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[thorny wave]

u guys are

[tawny whale]

Actually, how i can get my acc full stat information?

[thorny wave]

listen to the noobs gl

[tawny whale]

Like for acc reviewing

[lofty kindle]

You genuinely recommended 2 SB over 2 DK

[thorny wave]

idleontoolbox character page/ account page

[lament trench]

[thorny wave]

i have 2dk, i just said 2sb not that bad

[strong shuttle]

look for loot value or artifact chance, boat speed doesnt have place in current meta

[mystic heart]

youre crazy

[lofty kindle]

2 SB might not be bad in comparison to 2 ES or 2 DB

But 2 SB instead of 2 DK is actual account suicide

[mystic heart]

2 Sb is sp bad even i chnaged it

[lofty kindle]

"Yeah, lemme get twice as many catching prints, at the low low cost of dooming my construction to eternal hell"

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/sloth-walking-slow-slow-mo-asi-cuando-gif-11652135677711163143

[dire seal]

yea, why not?

whats the problem you see here? i need those catches

[thorny wave]

#6 and #10 and #13 on leaderboard have 2 sb

[strong shuttle]

literally 20x more construct from 1 dk

[thorny wave]

go ask them

maybe u can learn a thing

[mystic heart]

ure crzay

those accoutns are old

[strong shuttle]

you cant take examples from people nolifing this game since its start

[mystic heart]

2 SB was better bc the pre BM sucked vene more

[thorny wave]

with class change in storage

btw

[mystic heart]

theres no reason to change btw

2 WW also sucks

archers are ass

[thorny wave]

i don't see anyone on leaderboard with 2 ww i do see ppl with 2 sb tho

[mystic heart]

bc its all OLD accounts, and Sb used to be better

and leaderboards in Idleon are genuinly useless statistics btw

[thorny wave]

they could easily change 1 sb to a dk they all have class change tokens

[rustic urchin]

I thought of doing that, but I got the 9th as mage lol

[gloomy solar]

is there another buff to having crops after the 100k per crop one? i dont remember if theres buff per 1m crop from somewhere else

[prime wasp]

Don't tell that to #1 of the leaderboards

[lofty kindle]

And 2 DK too

[dire seal]

nag, why beginner? make 1 archer and 1 mage, thats all

[mystic heart]

genereally ppl go by the 3 of evry class

[dire seal]

this

[mystic heart]

and contstruction is maxed anywaayy so why 3 dk

[hollow venture]

2 ACs is ok no ?

[thorny wave]

how? lmao their accounts are nuts and im endgame endgame

[mystic heart]

theres not enough buildings to need 3 dks

[dire seal]

why

[lofty kindle]

They already have 2 DK, they don't want 3

[thorny wave]

its ur score across all leaderboards combined into one score

[mystic heart]

ppl who spend will always be at the top

fe im a gigawhale, but i would say SHokeen is still better then me even if not in stats or lvl

[hollow venture]

idk just what I heard, stuck in W6 lobby

[brittle tinsel]

Me over here watching the chaos unfold

[dire seal]

dont do that, bonuses dont stack.

[lofty kindle]

Better than 2 SB

[hollow venture]

yeah but 2ES isn't that useful

[mystic heart]

2 Ac is fine, as theres not rly a need for a 2nd ES with doot

[brittle tinsel]

I have 2 sb but i'm lazy and haven't changed it since pre master class gmush farming days.

[dire seal]

and as far as i know, someone here told that bonuses from LAST MC are counted, so your probably stronger first same MC will not affect your accountwide bonuses, but weaker one

[dire seal]

definetly not, yep

[mystic heart]

if u dont own doot it is

[hollow venture]

yeah got doot

[mystic heart]

i have 2 ES and im fine

[dire seal]

doot is ez to get these days, no one need 2 ES

[mystic heart]

bubo is active class, i see no need for 2 bubos

[lofty kindle]

Which bonuses are you talking about for 2 AC that don't stack? Summoning?

[crimson sorrel]

got equinox

[mystic heart]

when all max

[hollow venture]

tell that to the hundreds of people each day asking foor doot in the pet-trades channel

[crimson sorrel]

never

[strong shuttle]

should i ?

[crimson sorrel]

yes

[dire seal]

i mean MC bonuses, i didnt grind AC that good, just started. But i meant similar bonuses to account wide dmg bonus like in case of ww and db

[mystic heart]

[lofty kindle]

Getting both lab exp and lab range from both bubos, faster alchemy on 2 char, and 2x MC afk items(since AC is so much more expensive than DB and WW) are the appeals

[crimson sorrel]

now i will save balls for next update

[mystic heart]

why not spelunk

[crimson sorrel]

cant max that

i just wanted equinox i dont need anything else

[mystic heart]

eh onyl the afk items would matter for me, but i have over 3k of em anyway, my lab peeps are all 500+

[oak bolt]

does dungeon credit prayer work for hh

[lofty kindle]

That was the reason people swapped from 2 ES to 2 AC, and there hasn't been a reason to swap back since ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mystic heart]

praying that new MC will be bttr

[lofty kindle]

But there's even less reason to have 2 SB LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mystic heart]

i do have like 6 tokens spare tho so i dont have to worry

[crimson sorrel]

did not increased it that much

[lofty kindle]

(for context, I have 2 SB, but I'd NEVER recommend it over 2 DK)

[crimson sorrel]

[dire seal]

tf you need LAB range for?

[lofty kindle]

Bigger number better person

[dire seal]

alchemy? why tho? just leave your AC over 2 night and boom - all bubbles unlocked

[fervent mulch]

If es masterclass specializes research I can’t see it becoming meta again, I feel like at 70 research most people will have bought most researches

[crimson sorrel]

more skill lv , talents

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-wut-what-dog-husky-gif-11586370

[crimson sorrel]

need more skill lv for bravory dmg in hole

[dire seal]

heh? what???

[pliant socket]

lkKLFeklfeslkfeklfeklFkeKFkKfefkjkFejfefjejfejfjajfezbjfkjlfjekfjkefjejeesjFjefjesfjsefjsefjefsjkfkfjkjjhsjfsjfsjfhjjJfjkJJfjejsefkjsfsfesfjkeseses5f5s5f5f4s5f4sef4e

[mystic heart]

powercreep has always been a thing, new MCs will be stronger and more relevant inherently

[dire seal]

@crimson sorrel are you negatively smart or smh?

[mystic heart]

not even talkign ab them beong specialeasid in the latest skills

[strong shuttle]

no one is gona take DKs usefullness away

[lofty kindle]

More skill level = more talent point
More total skill level = more bravery dmg in hole thanks to engineer schematic

[brittle tinsel]

I somehow got 3 mangifying glass on to one tile. uh oh.

[crimson sorrel]

can be

[fervent mulch]

oh wow? noone is at party happy hour? noone o.o

[dark pike]

what level is your laaaaaarrryyy?

[crimson sorrel]

try to read this

[mystic heart]

Dk does not count here, as he is yet to recieve his MC

[strong shuttle]

thats a lot of speed

[strong shuttle]

oh yea, thats true. i forgot :D

[dire seal]

what ACs thing makes you think it affects total skill lvls that much? maybe i didnt progress him far enough and just didnt see anything yet

[strong shuttle]

honestly if DK gets instant respawn, ES can go kick rocks with any farm method

[lofty kindle]

Vman enhancement makes the bonus for lab exp also give all skill exp

[crimson sorrel]

ac get more crits chance per lab lv on ac

[trail ore]

whats the fastest way to level C string up?

[mystic heart]

alot of Cs and some Gs

[crimson sorrel]

2g all c

[dire seal]

okay, but do u really need anymore crit chance over 200?-_-

[crimson sorrel]

do u have more then 200 crit chance

[minor night]

Am i missing something? Does bagur do anything yet or is it a later update thing?

[crimson sorrel]

and i am talking about in ac form

[dire seal]

except w7 skills i assume, so that doesnt make much sence now, due to all other skills being pretty easy

[strong shuttle]

he has small bonus buff, but thats it

[lofty kindle]

I can guarantee you do not have 200% crit chance in AC form

[dire seal]

AC form is independent of any bonuses, isnt it? so 2 ACs will not add anything up

[fervent mulch]

what the frik happy hour is dead

[crimson sorrel]

i dont think

[lofty kindle]

More exp is more exp, and having 250 level skills will give more bravery damage

[vital vale]

for sneaking do I have to put my main account in the building?

[dire seal]

in AC, yep, i dont. but as i said above, i dont think 2 ACs give bonuses to each other

[crimson sorrel]

it work like others highest lv talent count

[fervent gate]

how can i unlock this

[lofty kindle]

What bonuses do you think 2 ACs are giving each other?

[strong shuttle]

no, sneaking is mental health friendly jail

[oak bolt]

hehehheehehe look what i got!

[crimson sorrel]

spelunking boss

bluspit

[dire seal]

makes sence, it will make good bravery damage, but sacrificing whole character to get more dmg in bravery doesnt seem reasonable to me now. you have plenty of other things in hole

[dire seal]

in AC form i bet none

[fervent gate]

ah

[fervent gate]

this isnt the medal seed type tho

[crimson sorrel]

i have same number of gd

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/phoropter-ophthalmology-refraction-optician-adjust-gif-24872558

[crimson sorrel]

why ur pow is so low

[mystic heart]

those thigns are so uncomfortable

[lofty kindle]

You get bravery damage, better alchemy, more MC afk items, more lab range for early on, more skill exp in general, more log prints cuz it's a mage, what else do you want from it?

[fervent gate]

explain this then

[simple wadi]

Wait, how do you unlock glassy? That should be unlocked automatically.

[strong shuttle]

i had more old school aproach to mine, and have great glasses now :D

[crimson sorrel]

heker

[lofty kindle]

Didn't lock the slot when growing the first crop

[strong shuttle]

no, bad :D

[mystic heart]

i have -7 im blind

[fervent mulch]

b tw how do you leave dungeon early?

[fervent gate]

weird

[crimson sorrel]

u can tp

[fervent gate]

ah no

[strong shuttle]

jesus, you dont have glasses but binoculars

[fervent gate]

i know what

[fervent mulch]

so just use a teleport and u will get dice rolls?

[crimson sorrel]

no

u dont get anything if u tp

[mystic heart]

i just recnetly got a new pair theyre so comfotable

[fervent mulch]

oooooo ok

[mystic heart]

but pretty big yes and even with em i ant rly see

[strong shuttle]

tell me about it, sometimes i forget i have em :D

[mystic heart]

i have chronic eye pain i dont forget them

[dire seal]

do u have 2 ACs?

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-blindness-blur-blurred-blurry-gif-11061422878131351530

[mystic heart]

i cant see my phone in bed

[crimson sorrel]

nub

[mystic heart]

without glasses

acctaul like 10 cm view

[strong shuttle]

how do you not have 20 20 with them ? :D

[lofty kindle]

Ye, and I haven't had any downsides yet

[crimson sorrel]

@lofty kindle 40k

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/downs-down-syndrome-huh-look-back-what-gif-12361802

[mystic heart]

doctor said this is fine, its not all clear but its enoug hto not get run over

[lofty kindle]

Like, the alternatives aren't any better. 2 ES, 2 SB, or 2 WW would all be pointless

[lofty kindle]

Downsides, not down syndrome

[strong shuttle]

you should get new doctor :E, you shouldnt be happy with OK, but perfect

[crimson sorrel]

i have 2 es

[lofty kindle]

[dire seal]

bro is down as hell

[mystic heart]

ey twins

[crimson sorrel]

guess how much exp

[strong shuttle]

same

[lofty kindle]

Is it still 6.7?

[dire seal]

@crimson sorrel thats you

[vestal glacier]

Are there any guides for efficient land rank distributions?

[mystic heart]

i have alot of tokens im in it for the love of the game

[crimson sorrel]

1 more lv in equinox

[lofty kindle]

I only have slightly less insight than you actually

[strong shuttle]

oh buoy

[crimson sorrel]

u just have more equinox

[lofty kindle]

Ye

I got 2 more levels in it

[crimson sorrel]

show full setup

[crimson sorrel]

i am going to get keymaster to lv 6

[lofty kindle]

Why og secret stone instead of piggy?

[crimson sorrel]

it give more exp

[lofty kindle]

Oh shit, it does

[dire seal]

what account wide bonuses are counted? they dont add up i think, so does it take your 2nd AC or first? like on DB and WW where you have dmg bonus

[lofty kindle]

I have slightly more now

[crimson sorrel]

31k increase

[fervent mulch]

HH glitching so badly

[haughty fiber]

is the king emperor opal worth to get and use the upgrade slots on? or should i keep using the previous teir while maxing out other chars?

[lofty kindle]

AC crystal is map based, not character based, so that doesn't matter. And the only one that might check character is the one that has a % chance for NBLB to give more levels based on tachyons farmed, but I've never gone into AC form on 2nd AC, so it seems to grab from the first one

Other things like cheaper summoning upgrades just takes whatever is the highest level talent, so if 2nd AC has max book and sits on skilling preset, that'll be highest level talent usually

[crimson sorrel]

half way there

[oak bolt]

how much per hr

[crimson sorrel]

scroll up

[bleak gazelle]

Tachyons (and all mc resources) are shared account wide, so it'd just use the highest talent level

[oak bolt]

damn alr

[lofty kindle]

If I copy your setup 1:1, I'm actually behind, but I'm not leveling keymaster insight

[crimson sorrel]

put some talent lv

[deep star]

Is the Mage Elite Class really that hard to get or do i something wrong? I cant get 400 worm kills in 2 min with 1600million damage

[lofty kindle]

In that case, there's not actually any bonuses that specifically take from 1st AC or 2nd AC, like there is with DB

[haughty fiber]

use the grave hand to respawn quickly

[lofty kindle]

[haughty fiber]

and then the weird eye talent to cooldown that respawn thing.

[crimson sorrel]

upgrade this after doing bottom ones

[bleak gazelle]

I didn't even realize there was a WW one that checked 1st vs 2nd

[deep star]

even with talentlevel 150 i still got 300-350 kills.

[lofty kindle]

I probably will after shadespire level 7 or 8

[lofty kindle]

I think it's just hunter eye for claiming traps through drone?

[deep star]

so its really hard to get it yeah, i have to do more. the DB and WW was really easy compared to it

[haughty fiber]

at that point its rng, and optimising, i got lucky after checking certain nametags and pendants that increase mob respawn.

[crimson sorrel]

i am not getting it to 8 i will get top row to 10 after getting 61 lv

[fervent mulch]

this is brutal

[lofty kindle]

Oh, talent level 150 will be incredibly hard to do 400 wurm kills

[dire seal]

ok, bruh, ill create 2nd AC, dark side corrupted me

[normal lagoon]

First purple W7 card

[trail canyon]

does the highest tier glassy crop give more beans than medal crops?

[deep star]

yeah it seems so

[lofty kindle]

You don't have to lol, I was just saying that it's not a bad option

[lofty kindle]

level 200 talents minimum imo, and even once you unlock AC, you won't want to try progressing in it until like 400 talents

[dire seal]

i still have that reset thing, so in case it will be bad in future - i can always reset

[lofty kindle]

I think I'll get level 8 shadespire like tomorrow or the day after tbh

[crimson sorrel]

base bean value of medle is higher but u cant get them in billions or trillions so last glassy is better

[lofty kindle]

Speedy

[dire seal]

can you remind me please, how was it done that i need to kill 400 or how much was it mobs at wurms? its kinda hard lol

[deep star]

what are the easiest and fastest methods to increase the max cap of talent levels?

[lofty kindle]

400 wurms in 2 minutes i think?

[jagged silo]

[dire seal]

am i missing smoething? how is it missing?

[crimson sorrel]

whale

[lofty kindle]

Fury relic from sailing gives 25 per level, salt lick gives 20 iirc, summoning gives a bunch, rift slug gives +25 levels, DB gives +30 levels, and there's a few other sources too

[jagged silo]

nub

[deep star]

thxxx

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

Are you in Arcanist Form or no?

[dire seal]

bubo, want to ghet second AC

[normal lagoon]

Very odd seeing as it's only 75k

[bleak gazelle]

Do you have points in chem warfare

[dire seal]

heh??

[lofty kindle]

[normal lagoon]

(Fart poison is based on Chem Warfare talent)

[oak bolt]

so close

[dire seal]

i didnt, putted them there now

[crimson sorrel]

2 more upgrades

[crimson sorrel]

put in that

[lofty kindle]

The one after drop rate crossfire is more important

[crimson sorrel]

what is that

[lofty kindle]

[crimson sorrel]

[dire seal]

yep, it worked, thank you both @bleak gazelle

[fervent mulch]

oh wow 😮 finally got some mob respawn keychains

[oak bolt]

i have played this game for 3 years and still havent hit a single jackpot

[crimson sorrel]

damn cant push w6 without that upgrade

[oak bolt]

do i double kruk

[lofty kindle]

[crimson sorrel]

[dire seal]

okay, i got second AC, i hope it will not get bad in next update

[crimson sorrel]

yes

[fervent mulch]

kruk is pretty frigging strong, idk what the arcade bonus does

[lofty kindle]

You've got a few weeks at least, since lava said MC releases won't be during weekly updates, and we're like halfway through the "at least 10 weekly updates" that he promised

[dire seal]

do you think i have to upgrade summoning related bonuses on second AC?

[lofty kindle]

You don't need to, but if your 2nd AC is gonna be on skilling preset all the time, you can

[crimson sorrel]

more gallery multi tommorow

[mystic heart]

nub

[crimson sorrel]

@jagged silo

[keen pagoda]

brh where is World 6 constellation sign

[normal lagoon]

There's not a lot in MC talents for damage setups. I literally have Supered all the Summoning stuff (and Tachyon), the WIS bonus, and the 5th talent that lets you have AC Crystal Buff on the second AC

[dire seal]

hmmm, interesting. i guess i have to do so as well. i supered.... weird stuff

[normal lagoon]

WW is now my only lone MC, so if I plan to do Tempest stuff, I just temporarily move some of the Sneaking talent points and the AGI talent (because it's useless as Tempest), plus the Medallion talent

Like now my main AC can look like this instead (218 = 1 point invested btw)

[dire seal]

wait, i supered
power overwhelming
CC
tenteyecles
primo prisma

is it bad choice?

[dire seal]

my talents get only to 92 with 1 points, i guess i am missing a lot of upgrades to get 218

[normal lagoon]

If you're pushing Arcanist form, Crystal should be supered since it's guaranteed at least 1 extra arcane mob, same with Backup Energy if you're not at 90 KpC (Kills per Charge)

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-quarz-crystal-animation-gif-17880849087952943897

[normal lagoon]

and this is how the second AC looks FTR (yes this is its FIGHTING preset)

[lofty kindle]

I have more stuff supered for Non-mc damage/content than MC content ngl, but I always have crystal stuff supered

[normal lagoon]

There's no real point to put points in Crystal/Backup since AC 2 won't be entering Arcanist Form but yeah

[lament trench]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-hi-stitch-ZLWdBBzwAexuE

[dire seal]

what is backup energy?

[light relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1471548773925654801/image0.gif

[normal lagoon]

Talent 15

Lower KpC and Tachyon Multi

[hollow venture]

talent lvl 218 with 1 point is crazy work

[lofty kindle]

This works well enough for all the mc progression I've done so far

My other supers are for normal content lmao

[dire seal]

thank you, okay. i will just keep tents supered and rest into AC

[normal lagoon]

I mean, CC gucci

CC is very nice to have supered

[dire seal]

interesting, you have it really different than polarthief

[normal lagoon]

What level is your AC, Aleksei? (your first one, the one that you push Arcanist with)

[dire seal]

im just lvl 811, cant super everything

[normal lagoon]

Okay so 4 (supers), gimme one sec

[dire seal]

i definetly need tents supered, because it goes from 79% to 83 and instead of 3s it gives 4s

[normal lagoon]

I was gonna ask if Tent was 400+ without Super, so yeah that answers the main question I have

CC, Tent, Crystal, Backup should be your four.

[lofty kindle]

I haven't needed to super some of the other bonuses for AC progression, but supering things for normal content made w7 progression way cleaner

[dire seal]

382 without super, max talent book lvl used

[normal lagoon]

Crystal should ALWAYS be supered, if pushing Arcanist

[lofty kindle]

^^

[normal lagoon]

Crystal only cares about every 50th level, and Super is guaranteed to push it to a new 50

1 Arcane Mob is insanely good.

Both for progging AND farming AC Crystal Map Buffs

[lofty kindle]

Crystal & Backup energy are both necessary to have supered when pushing arcanist, everything else is a stat bonus that's nice to have, but not mandatory

[normal lagoon]

Later you'll push it to 125 levels for a Super (I'm not even there yet ), so that's 2.5 mobs from a super

[normal lagoon]

Backup becomes less so once you can reach 90 KpC w/o it, but by that point you will have so many supers that, why not slap it on the Tachyon Multi?

PS: To see your KpC, check Arcane Charging (in Tesseract). It counts Backup Energy into the number it spits out, and 90 KpC is the hardcap

[dire seal]

okay, thank you everyone. so i kept tents supered and did this:

[normal lagoon]

(I think you need 500 points in Backup + maxed Arcane Charging to cap KpC)

[normal lagoon]

nooo not Arcanist Form

[dire seal]

:<

[undone oar]

:(

[dire seal]

what instead?

[normal lagoon]

It's an okay super, but for how limited yours are

[normal lagoon]

CC, you'll appreciate it later.

Unless you REALLY value that tiny amount of extra damage

[dire seal]

i am pushing AC rn, i can super CC anytime i will do CC

[normal lagoon]

Yeah but CC while grinding mobs for hours

[lofty kindle]

CC, or when pushing arcanist form, the 6th ability, the one that scales damage and attack speed on total upgrades

[normal lagoon]

Yeah if you NEED more damage right now, Talent 6 or 8 is way better

Don't undervalue talent 8; 200% crit is hard to hit

[lofty kindle]

Also tbh, don't push AC without level 400 talents

[oak bolt]

are jewelled cogs better than ulti or do i just replace my ultis if the jewelled ones have more exp

[dire seal]

which one should it be?

[normal lagoon]

Jewel are basically Tier 5 yeah, but the Directional Buff cogs can ONLY be | and ----. No X Jewel Cogs, no 2x3 positional cogs

[oak bolt]

ok, but mostly i should base my board based on exp right

[normal lagoon]

It's almost the exact same BiS setup, except the 2x3s get valued a bit weaker and some can be replaced with horizontal/vertical even

[oak bolt]

how rare is this freaking hat

[lofty kindle]

Will supering labotomizer help you hit 100% crit chance in AC form? If yes, then that, otherwise Ghastly Power imo. But still, don't push AC without level 400 talents

[deep star]

i dont know why but the costs reduce somehow. I dont know why, i dont know when, i dont know which ones. its level 33 and only 236 flies? I could swear i upgrade it before for much more, anyone knows something ? And its not about the reducing bubble costs through the vials or the bubbles

[normal lagoon]

Farm it on 1F instead of 12F.

[oak bolt]

the ghost floor?

[normal lagoon]

It's 10x more likely on 1F than 12F

[oak bolt]

oh i didnt know it drops there

[young mango]

@crimson sorrel read my bio

[dire seal]

i have 61.3% crit chance rn in AC form, so it will hep me hit only 65%

[oak bolt]

ok, does mastery matter?

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/aayla-secura-hd-order-66-hd-gif-10722613436271463174

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, lobby is 1 in 10k, 12F is 1 in 20k iirc

[young mango]

ye

[dusk knoll]

shrine max lvl 300 ?

[normal lagoon]

Slap a Meteorite and either a second Meteorite or Yellow Belt and go crazy

[oak bolt]

i aint got any of these

[lofty kindle]

In that case, probably ghastly power

[shrewd frost]

I've got 2 DK, 2 ES, Bubo, BM, SB, BB, Maestro. What do I go for 10th?

[crimson sorrel]

[dire seal]

okay, thank you

[normal lagoon]

@lofty kindle @oak bolt

[oak bolt]

yup nice

[normal lagoon]

The first 5 atm, yes, the last 4 are still 200.

[lofty kindle]

Even more reason for lobby then

[oak bolt]

how

[young mango]

sneaking?

[normal lagoon]

Plus guaranteed 0% detection

[crimson sorrel]

if u can mange to delete 1st hat

[oak bolt]

yeah

[young mango]

more exp and bucks

[crude plinth]

the costs change depending on the class for each color

[oak bolt]

i dont get bucks on 1st floor tho

[trail pendant]

what is the best team for this?

[lofty kindle]

True. Only reason against would be cuz auto trash (not full auto trash, just the normal one) would filter out most black belts on 12F, but lobby will fill your inventory constantly

[young mango]

starts on second floor

[young mango]

replace rattler with doggy iirc

[normal lagoon]

If you don't care about actually having the Funky Hat cosmetically for Sneaking, you can turn on Auto Trash Adv feature to just trash everything and it'll eventually unlock. No more needing to trash hundreds of Bamboo hats
NOTE: This feature SUCKS otherwise and should be disabled ASAP (it deletes symbols you gather)

[rustic urchin]

saved me the words polar lol

[lofty kindle]

Does it count towards the equinox dream tho?

[rustic urchin]

yes

[lofty kindle]

Oh neat, I didn't realize

[normal lagoon]

It should since the Yellow Belt +50 achievement triggers on auto-trash
Source: I got it w/ Auto Trash on, so I can personally guarantee it works, unless Lava Code changed something.

[trail pendant]

i havent done anything with pet battles in months so i dont really know the team

[lofty kindle]

Ooh, I actually wasn't sure if that did either

[rustic urchin]

damn I still haven't gotten that one, what's the best way to grind yellowbelt?

[normal lagoon]

Auto Trash and wait.

[rustic urchin]

urghyt6utg

shucks

[normal lagoon]

Use 2x Meteorite if your stealth is high enough

[rustic urchin]

i'll wait until I go for next mastery again

so instead I go back down to m2 or something lol

m5 has been a slog

[normal lagoon]

Wait til you get to M7 and you still don't have 40k hours on Fractal 😭

[rustic urchin]

[normal lagoon]

I've dropped back to M6 because I still genuinely believe 11th char is Soon™ and I'd rather be on a mastery that is flowers-buffed that I can manage to unlock 11 char (and 12 if they come together)

[young mango]

i also forget

[lofty kindle]

Maybe I'll get 50 yellow belt while grinding funeral flowers

[rustic urchin]

another one going down

[oak bolt]

can i not place it here

[rustic urchin]

nop

[normal lagoon]

[golden mauve]

Are endercaptains worth getting if their stats are terrible?

[nocturne patrol]

ez

[normal lagoon]

How to get beeg flower btw:

[rustic urchin]

oh you can double belt? Im stupid

[normal lagoon]

Nice, next few maps are free, have fun getting locked at Woodlin

[normal lagoon]

I think they add together then triple but still

[rustic urchin]

I've done single belts ffs

[oak bolt]

i swear you could

[normal lagoon]

Rosary + Yellow Belt is such a power move.

That's wild

I also wonder when this will hit 99%

[rustic urchin]

I didn't even think to double them lmao I just replaced rosary/veil with belt on the chars I'd leave grinding flowers

[normal lagoon]

FTR: EXP-wise, it's best to do Black + Yellow (yellow in the weaker slot if the slots are mismatched levels)

I've tested every combination of Black/Yellow/2x of each

[crystal latch]

its worth to try buying anything here? and should i super refinery?

[rustic urchin]

emp bonus

kruk bubble

[normal lagoon]

Nothing here is "bad". Artifact and DR are the weakest options

Emp is really good; Spelunk XP being a multi makes it good. Kruk is solid (it's multiplicative btw, all Kruk is Multi), Equinox is good.

[crystal latch]

thanks

[normal lagoon]

This is one of those SOATs (Shops of all Time)

[rustic urchin]

when do you grind xp? I usually just rotate the scroll of power around, so everyone reaches my first char (usually the one that holds it afk)

[normal lagoon]

I'm also shocked DB Bones beat out both WW Dust and AC Tachyons on the vote

[normal lagoon]

New Mastery

I used to do 2x Blackbelt on everyone, but that requires twenty inventory slots

So now I just push with 9 and EXP with 1 when I'm in a new mastery

One Flower-gatherer on 2F (once 3F is unlocked) so I can have a floor to farm symbols on every day, the other takes the L and just buffs the floor everyone else is on

[rustic urchin]

but yb+bb better than scroll of power?

[normal lagoon]

BB gives more EXP than Scroll so no point using Scroll over Black

and AFAIK both black and scroll are additive (pre-multis), so

[rustic urchin]

wat are symbol odds reset daily?

damn I never really read upon sneaking lol

[normal lagoon]

The way it works is sorta like Giant Mob Spawns

(Pristine Charms are the same too btw)

[rustic urchin]

pristines should be reset, but hasn't it been bugged since ever?

[normal lagoon]

Every time you roll a charm, even well after your daily, it first will roll to see if it rolls into a Pristine. REGARDLESS ON FAIL/SUCCEED, it then rolls again to potentially turn into a symbol, which is why Pristines are so much rarer since W7

and the chance it turns into Pristine or Symbol goes down on each roll

[loud cloak]

Can't believe this, I have 10M kills on the characters that need to kill crabcakes, cooking lvls and more mining it is I guess???

[normal lagoon]

So every day I'll put everyone on 2F for about 10 minutes or so until I notice symbols haven't appeared for awhile, then put them back on whatever they were doing before.

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

I should go check my Tesseract since the daily reset

but I'm lazy and I'll do it later

[amber solstice]

i could click the bonus tab before buying this. why make it an upgrade

[rustic urchin]

there's nothing that multis nothing island right? so it's really just a candy dump?

[loud cloak]

Time to force it with balloons (this is my 9th character)

[crimson sorrel]

[loud cloak]

The only method I have seen to "tamper" with the RNGs is Vman rerolling loot on nothing

[fervent mulch]

what the frik howd u go to 3.23 is that fomr the

update

[loud cloak]

and cooking 80, thank you balloons

The 100 gems on boss kill max, is that a daily limit?

[normal lagoon]

(and you're higher in the tesseract)

[crimson sorrel]

u can kill 150 bosses for gems the amount of gems in not specific

[fervent mulch]

i ust used all my characters afk times for sailing procs and then when i log on it says i have 10 hours but i was there.... 45 minutes ago

[loud cloak]

Ah, and that is daily?

[crimson sorrel]

yes

[loud cloak]

Hell yes

[hollow venture]

wasn't prisma bonus capped at 3x ? or am i crazy

[crimson sorrel]

after 150 bosses dont drop gems

[normal lagoon]

Keyword: "Was"

[crimson sorrel]

capped at 4x now

[normal lagoon]

He increased it to 4x with the Hive Mind pet because it adds a ridiculous +50%

[hexed marsh]

Does windwalker benefit at all from multikill? e.g. if i have enough damage to kill a mob without damage rings is it still worth keeping damage rings or can i switch to dust rings?

[crimson sorrel]

u are gaming addict

[normal lagoon]

I want to say MK/KpK do nothing for MC Forms, but I can't say that with 100% confirmation

[crimson sorrel]

polar if i get this to 13+ do i get .01x more

[normal lagoon]

I'm pretty sure the actual prisma effect looks at every decimal point

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

Your shown 3.23x is probably like 3.224093785759598759858 or some shit

[dusk knoll]

what map is this mob on ?

[crimson sorrel]

col

[normal lagoon]

W2 Colo only I believe

[trail pendant]

I dont remember but what stats on farming has a cap and what is that said cap?

[crimson sorrel]

crop value

[jagged silo]

1 more

[loud cloak]

Amount of crop plot

[dusk knoll]

cap can be increased

[jagged silo]

this is 20T be4

[trail pendant]

do you know how much crop value it is capped at?

[crimson sorrel]

how u getting so much evo

[simple wadi]

Before exotics, it caps at 10k

[crimson sorrel]

it is capped at 10k but u can increase cap by exotic

[normal lagoon]

That one's pretty good btw

[fervent mulch]

Idiot ac can’t even find a 11 speed 75 wp staff

[night lodge]

Okay 100% that's character 11

[normal lagoon]

11 speed
Okay

[trail pendant]

oh ok.

[normal lagoon]

What?

[night lodge]

Next update

[trail pendant]

is there a way to check?

how i got my evo so high that is?

[crimson sorrel]

when it stop going up

[fervent mulch]

I feel like 11 char is coming soon too I think lava gonna nuke us with wildcard update

[crude plinth]

you just have more upgrades in Evolution GMO + Super GMO

[dusk knoll]

vote for this #player-suggestions message

[crimson sorrel]

filter page exist

[trail pendant]

his should be higher than mine

[dusk knoll]

all full

[normal lagoon]

That's a roundabout way for asking for more filter pages.

[crimson sorrel]

yeah

[dusk knoll]

yes but i assume it was already asked many times

[normal lagoon]

If he's not going to add more filter pages, he's definitely not going to add new features that do the same thing

[crimson sorrel]

adding toggle to ac wp would be more usefull

[crude plinth]

do you have more crops that qualify then?

[normal lagoon]

Like I don't disagree with your suggestion (I even gave it a check), I just think filter pages would be the better method for everyone, including Lava cuz I'm sure it's much easier to add pages rather than make a whole new feature

[trail pendant]

i only got 291 crops that qualify since i am not able to get the last few medals yet

[normal lagoon]

I'm only like halfway through the new medal crops that were added yesterday

[crimson sorrel]

i dont have instagrow for that

[normal lagoon]

Huh...

[simple wadi]

I didn't even notice more were added.

[crude plinth]

That doesn't make sense your evo is E145 with that many upgrades 🤔 Unless you don't have 100k of every crop that you've unlocked

[crimson sorrel]

[night lodge]

I do not have enough evo to get past the 1st new one

[crimson sorrel]

i only have 1 medle

[normal lagoon]

• 30 new Farming Crops to find via Medal seeds
#patch-notes📝

[crude plinth]

oh, so Vision has 291 crops at 100k and you're at like 240?

[crimson sorrel]

i am at this

[simple wadi]

[loud cloak]

I GOT THE SOVEREIGN TALENT LEVEL ARTIFACT ON A 0.02%

[normal lagoon]

You're the one who even posted the early notes!

[normal lagoon]

Grats! But man if you're struggling that hard for T4, good luck with T6

[crude plinth]

ok so you're just missing more crops at 100k

[loud cloak]

I am nowhere near T5

It was a lucky gamble

[crimson sorrel]

yeah

[normal lagoon]

I have like 0.05~0.1% chances for the T6s I'm going for.

[crimson sorrel]

i am just farming beans

i dont have instagrows for medle

[normal lagoon]

I just want the damn Winz lantern and then I'm pissing off from the end island for awhile.

is very thankful his first T6 Lantern was a good one though

[loud cloak]

Getting to w7 is now gonna be easyyyy

[crimson sorrel]

did u got all boat to 400

[normal lagoon]

I'm being stubborn and wanna push Winz first lol

[fervent mulch]

got like 4 of the undead boats not all 3=

[crimson sorrel]

i gave up on that

trying to get some boats to 400

[normal lagoon]

I'd have to farm SO many places to get everything to 400

Also pog, new threshold for charms reached: 12k

pretty damn good one to start with too

[crimson sorrel]

some end gamers got all to t6

[normal lagoon]

19% detection on this floor, hot damn (scroll-wielder is 50%)

[jagged silo]

[crimson sorrel]

whale

[normal lagoon]

Have fun getting like 30 more Prismas from that

[jagged silo]

holy shit

[normal lagoon]

Hell I got four just from having way higher DR from the last time I was farming them

[normal lagoon]

Don't forget to DR MAX your card setup

Since no other cards really matter in form

[loud cloak]

Oh shid, new week, time to farm giants and candy push

[normal lagoon]

(still 2d for my weekly reset )

[jagged silo]

I know

[loud cloak]

I never influenced my weekly reset point, but I think the amount of meteors I use has caused me to slowly time travel

[jagged silo]