lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[normal lagoon]

Why do you give us such garbage Lava

[rustic urchin]

wdym?

[frail panther]

w6 is quite literally more kebabs lol, try it

[frail panther]

insane hecker

[teal hill]

I’m gonna copy this

[normal lagoon]

"Efficient"

[lofty kindle]

Nah, don't worry lol, whatever works for you. I organized mine after I stopped pushing

[crimson sorrel]

i maxed currency research

[rustic urchin]

welp i've been baited by iear

[lofty kindle]

Go for it

[frail panther]

this is why I never relied on clanker sites

[normal lagoon]

1/2 for 2 tickets vs 200/4 and 150/4 for 30 tickets
Pretty sure 30 tickets is more efficient

[lofty kindle]

We're gonna be here a while

[crimson sorrel]

now where do i put it in

[crimson sorrel]

wish i had lv 70 atom

[normal lagoon]

Time to go back and bump up old skills and stuff you've been putting off. Alchemy is important and everyone skips it til W6
Summoning is also HUGE. Don't skimp on it.

[crimson sorrel]

how u getting so much then

[lofty kindle]

Probably shape & G4?

[lofty kindle]

What is G4 giving you currently? Like 15%?

[rigid pebble]

Is there an atom collider tier list?

[crimson sorrel]

18

[rustic urchin]

alright I confirm this

[lofty kindle]

Oh, H5 also gives currency%

[crimson sorrel]

i only have 5 points left

[normal lagoon]

As long as it's 15x what W2 was giving you, it's better to do, and quicker since it's 30 tickets at a time

[crimson sorrel]

i will max this after getting lv 60

[lofty kindle]

Tbh, I don't recommend putting points into the minehead stuff yet, they don't feel worth it, and even when lava adds a new minehead damage or currency bonus each update, at most, we can only get 1 boss further

[normal lagoon]

Most of DC is trash rewards.

For example: 30 fucking grind time levels/day

All he'd have to do is stick a Gallery multi reward in there and suddenly many of us would care.

[dire cedar]

damn the one time this fk has something i need i cant afford it 🙁

[crimson sorrel]

this will get good when i get colour on it

[normal lagoon]

Right?

[little lynx]

can anyonme two peole help me with the secret boss in world 2 i need to be i tfor the first time im on arch

[visual gate]

Wrong! gas leak!

[crimson sorrel]

damn

[crimson sorrel]

can u send full setup so i can see which observation to lv

[novel mural]

bit scuffed but current is this

[crimson sorrel]

is keymaster worth levling

[rustic urchin]

I mean, I just doubled them in a single run lmfao

[novel mural]

game design 102

so I guess yeah

[rustic urchin]

whoever is responsible for IEAR should be warned for that

[crimson sorrel]

should not i lv that after getting to lv 60

[lavish burrow]

question how does polytheism skill works

[karmic zealot]

i still havent gotten the recipe am i missing something?

[echo crag]

its worth leveling up keymaster, but not at the expanse of your exp by using kaleido for it imo

[bleak gazelle]

[lavish burrow]

anyone

[bleak gazelle]

check 2nd 📌

[crimson sorrel]

i will lv last observation first then keymaster

[frail panther]

previous dr was 3.2k :3

[normal lagoon]

?recipedrop

ah fuck what was the command

[echo crag]

!recipe

[normal lagoon]

Oh was it !

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monster's card.

[normal lagoon]

There we go

[karmic zealot]

so what does that mean?

[bleak gazelle]

that one is always so

[normal lagoon]

TL;DR: Keep trying

Also what is your DR?

[bleak gazelle]

lol, here's a picture
https://i.imgur.com/3QqofVE.png

[normal lagoon]

Cuz like, 1/50m is quite a large number

[normal lagoon]

Yeah so

[echo crag]

some ppl reported getting over 4k of the royal urns before getting that recipe fyi

[normal lagoon]

0.000042% chance for a Suggma to drop it

[bleak gazelle]

not terrible, I think I actived on ES for ~1 day around 30x and got it

[karmic zealot]

shouldnt it be 1 in 50 million?

[echo crag]

its still rng

[normal lagoon]

Your DR is 21, so you replace the "1" with 21

[karmic zealot]

thats better no? one every 2300000 roughly?

maybe im calculating it wrong idk

its just insane that ive killed it over 2000m and still no drop

[bleak gazelle]

right, but 2300000 or 50m or w/e only counts real kills, multikill doesn't affect it

[echo crag]

how many rare urns are you up to ?

[normal lagoon]

That's with MK and KpK included.

[bleak gazelle]

aka https://i.imgur.com/3QqofVE.png

[normal lagoon]

Every Suggma you physically see-and-kill counts as ONE kill for the sake of loot

Even if your KpK + MK means you kill like 1b of them each time

[karmic zealot]

1.28k i cant even remember what are they used for

[echo crag]

thats still pretty low for getting the recipe then

[lavish burrow]

okay i linked my es to purrmep and my polytheism is on a diff god do i get both their main bonuses

[bleak gazelle]

you would get all their bonuses

[normal lagoon]

Used for this mediocre stamp and something else, I think some recipes

[normal lagoon]

Both major and minor, yes

[karmic zealot]

ive just spent around 100 2hours candy and still nothing

[lavish burrow]

and with pocket divinity i can have 4 god bonuses?

[lavish burrow]

alright thanks

[normal lagoon]

I assume you just have the 2 from hole, in which case yes, so far

[quick girder]

I NEED MORE POWER!

[normal lagoon]

You'll later get a 3rd pocket div, Arctis for free (via Research), and you can also buy Snehebatu via Gems

[lavish burrow]

ye i do ive already got those 2 from hole on the mantis and snake god

[normal lagoon]

For when you get more gods:

• Links for Free: Snehebatu (W5 Gem Shop), Arctis (W7 Research)
• Pocket Divinities: Omniphau, Harriep, Goharut
• ES Normal Links: Purrmep & Kattlekruk
• Normal Links & ES Polytheism Links: Nobisect or Flutterbis

[lavish burrow]

u think buying snehebatu is worth it

[normal lagoon]

If you have the gems sure, but he's whatever.

Effectively +30% AFK Gains (before Multis) for all characters and that's it.

[lavish burrow]

i have 6k but people are telling me save for anniversary

[normal lagoon]

definitely save

[rustic urchin]

people are correct

[normal lagoon]

It's more a luxury purchase if you still don't have Doot yet

(and if you do, it's a useless purchase)

[lavish burrow]

i dont have any good pet

i was told to trade i need to waste money and buy packs

[normal lagoon]

Kinda.

You can get trades for nothing too though

[crimson sorrel]

[lavish burrow]

how when i dont have tradeable pet

[normal lagoon]

and because trades make COPIES of pets, people are, pretty generous

[normal lagoon]

People can give you pets for nothing

[lavish burrow]

oh i didnt know that i thought i needed a tradeable to get smth

[normal lagoon]

I mean for a fair trade yeah, but people do giveaways all the time

[frail panther]

nicw, I'm probably getting 60t atleast w future zenith

[crimson sorrel]

or bless

[hot briar]

Am i trippin
Both ES
On evertree
Why is the multi log so high for the first one
Both chars have the perk assignd

[crimson sorrel]

whale

[normal lagoon]

and again because trading does NOT remove your pet, it just makes it untradeable, a LOT of people are very generous.

[normal lagoon]

Your second needs to turn on the log skill

[crimson sorrel]

skill

[normal lagoon]

the buff

[bleak gazelle]

the skill buff

[normal lagoon]

Hey guys I think it's the skill buff thing

[lofty kindle]

the log skill buff

[bleak gazelle]

-# or should that have been skill the buff

[normal lagoon]

Wait, is it the log skill?

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, the log buff skill

[hot briar]

nvm im lost
no idea why its active for the one and not for the other one
i was just claiming afk
I thought if theyre assign and i didnt click them manually i doesnt change anything

[bleak gazelle]

soon

[normal lagoon]

Buffs kinda need to be activated prior

[normal lagoon]

Super Duper 25?

[lofty kindle]

You have to actually active the log on logs buff before you swap off the character

[hot briar]

Even if you leave them afk for hrs?

aintnoway

[normal lagoon]

Same with stuff like Warrior Strength buff, Wizard/ES Mana Shield (for MK Buff), etc.

[hot briar]

Imagine being 0.5 tome and not knowing that

[normal lagoon]

[shadow lynx]

The timer only goes down when ur active on it tho it seems like

[bleak gazelle]

ye, that was the og infinite CC

[lofty kindle]

If a 5 second buff was activated and you swapped off before it runs out, it lasts the whole time

[normal lagoon]

Imagine if CC worked like Smeltin'...

AC AFK might actually be worth a damn then

[bleak gazelle]

also soon maybe i should just spam some syrup

oh lul, was just two

[normal lagoon]

Why are you ignoring me? 😭

[warm yew]

youre on rams or frogs?

[bleak gazelle]

rams

[shadow lynx]

Whats ur sigil rate

[warm yew]

prolly swap

[bleak gazelle]

but i hate w1 background

[warm yew]

understandable

[shadow lynx]

I was able to get the tier before that fairly easily but the costs for those seem ridiculous

For a small buff

[normal lagoon]

1. Is W1 actually better?
2. Why are you ignoring me asking if that screencap of Zenith Market is for SuperDuper 25?

[shadow lynx]

Oh holy shit mine is lower than I thought 😭

[warm yew]

it is talent to 25, frogs are better

[lavish burrow]

do u have any decent pet that could help me

[bleak gazelle]

because my head hurts and i literally didn't see it
yes for 25, no clue about frogs, this is the first i'm hearing of it

[karmic zealot]

200 1hour candies later...

[normal lagoon]

Why?

[normal lagoon]

None I could give away atm no

[warm yew]

the recent change to respawn rate made it give more drops

[normal lagoon]

oh ffs

[karmic zealot]

i guess thats good i finally found a use for my candies

[normal lagoon]

Wait, does respawn rate affect drops when your DK is instaspawning them?

[hot briar]

When was the sigil arcade the last time in the rotation

[bleak gazelle]

but then I have to spend all this fucking time at frogs on ac too fuck that noise

[normal lagoon]

Man mine is crazy worse than yours, I guess Arcade and Legend is that big a deal huh?

[warm yew]

0 ac is better than rams which is disgusting

[normal lagoon]

1x AC on Frogs > 1.35x AC on Rams?

[hot briar]

Did you exalt your sigil stamp?

[deft haven]

huh?

[normal lagoon]

sigh Yes, forever ago

[normal lagoon]

Back when I didn't know I couldn't reset them

[warm yew]

1 > 1.6

idk i dont like the change, i hope he changes it

[normal lagoon]

@warm yew

[hot briar]

Id rather have sigil exalted than this ngl

[warm yew]

they spawn like perma

[deft haven]

???????

[normal lagoon]

So why frogs specifically when they're like all over the place

[warm yew]

i mean you can go test rn if youd like, swap to respawn gear and keychains

[normal lagoon]

If they instaspawn, wouldn't Beans be better?

It's also such an odd change, like was it really necessary

[deft haven]

prob to speed up earlygame but like, seems overkill

[bleak gazelle]

the amount of w1 buffs he's thrown over the years is insane

[normal lagoon]

He should replace it with free KpK

[deft haven]

and then w4 lab is still doochie slow

[normal lagoon]

Or just cut all the portal requirements down dramatically

[bleak gazelle]

early refinery is still pretty shit

[dire cedar]

god damn this is so close

[normal lagoon]

LATE refinery is pretty shit! Still trying for the new green salt...

[deft haven]

if anything it makes refinery quite worse in a way lmaooo

[normal lagoon]

Brother, where is your SYRUP?!

Every tier pre-green is a joke with Syrups

[bleak gazelle]

it's literally only 511 kills to get to w1 boss room

[normal lagoon]

What the fuck

[dire cedar]

right here lol

[normal lagoon]

Okay so use that

It's 24h of ALL Alchemy Progress btw

Get all your nerds on Sigils before you do it though

[bleak gazelle]

i hate this game

ah, didn't realize it was for this reason, I just took it off cause people were saying they were lagging

[echo crag]

oh yeah, the free exotic market thing is nice

[frail panther]

fucked over my fuel generation set sushi for this

[void shell]

nice 🤔

[karmic zealot]

im guessing this is going to be even worst right?

[warm yew]

what abt that

[echo crag]

not really cuz you need to dark lantern to craft them

[void shell]

I mean... you'd get it way before you have the materials to craft it anyways

[warm yew]

oh the recipe

[karmic zealot]

i was dealing with this recipe

[karmic zealot]

took me 100s of 1 and 2 hours candies

[warm yew]

rip lol

[karmic zealot]

i almost have all that already

[lofty kindle]

100k dark lanterns

[warm yew]

you have the laterns and bars?

[void shell]

bars are pretty easy

[karmic zealot]

im pretty far up the game but i never bothered getting all the mittens

[karmic zealot]

oh yeah i guess i dont have that

[deft haven]

so we just took boomerang off?
damn, rare boomerang L

[lofty kindle]

However bad you're expecting it to be, it'll be worse tbh

[bleak gazelle]

only 124 though?

[karmic zealot]

is there a method to doing it?

[lofty kindle]

Lots of time candy

[karmic zealot]

or maybe just giving up on it

[subtle vine]

did everyone become small sized what happened

[karmic zealot]

i got 1000s im not worried

[echo crag]

i did that last night where i was geting 150 lvl a pop, so 124 is hte left over after swaping to a new crop

[lofty kindle]

Then it should be fine, it'll just eat through a lot

[void shell]

meh, the mittens are pretty easy with our w7 droprate now, no big deal

[bright swallow]

Should i care about beeing "Salt locked" earlygme or just keep upgrading when I can?

[dire cedar]

hell yeah got another one

[warm yew]

the secret set is important to craft but you can come backk to it later on

[karmic zealot]

im guessing id have to improve my dmg and drop rate to make it easier
how bad are my current stats? i can go high drop rate or high dmg

[normal lagoon]

Probably, but you can always go back and get them later.

[karmic zealot]

yeah maybe i should focus on my stats to make it easier

i just came back after a year so im lacking on a lot of stuff

[lofty kindle]

Probably wait until 100-500x DR?

[dire cedar]

i just noticed this sail all button, god damn thats a really nice addition

[karmic zealot]

wait thats a thing?

500 DR?

[lofty kindle]

There's people hitting 10,000x

[bleak gazelle]

early game is usually the only time being salt locked matters
you can kinda yolo to get void salts unlocked and then go back to just leveling red/green (and others as necessary)
or just take it chill and pray for good omni procs

[shadow lynx]

People have over 40k

[echo crag]

and thats not even my dk dr

[quasi walrus]

Yh whalamus legend talent thing, what should I be spending points on?

[quasi walrus]

I maxed statues, got the increased crystal, super talents but Idk what else. Like drop rate or sum? Golden boost?

[normal lagoon]

Lol I'm calling it so close with the upcoming event
Even better: I can do it twice

[shadow lynx]

Theres just a shit ton of dr multis now

[karmic zealot]

this game is so fucked i swear...
its like a 9-5 and you gotta perfect everything in every map in every world

[crimson sorrel]

these whales

[lofty kindle]

Wait fuck, if frogs are actually good now, my name isn't as funny cuz it seems like I'm legitimately farming frogs

[simple wadi]

Wookie casually saying "This isn't even my final form"

[echo crag]

dk dr in town :3

[dire cedar]

you think theres an event coming today?

[normal lagoon]

No?

[lofty kindle]

Good news, I've progressed past frogs due to spending lots of money

[frank shore]

Tomorrow or Saturday hopefully

[crimson sorrel]

write hardstuck at moon man

[dire cedar]

imma be sick

[lofty kindle]

I haven't gotten that far yet

[echo crag]

i still need to finish mah sushi too :3

[normal lagoon]

What specifically? Anniv?

Like, I guess, but idk

[warm yew]

im assuming anniversary is today

[lofty kindle]

Does anyone have any guides for the w1 boss? It's coming up soon, and I'm worried about the mechanics

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried

[lofty kindle]

No, I'm not at the boss yet, I just wanna be prepared

[normal lagoon]

Oh if he does it on the 2nd every time; I didn't notice that

[simple wadi]

I still remember when Nightmare Amerok was released and the amount of ass he kicked.

[normal lagoon]

I thought it was just "April-whenever"

[normal lagoon]

Yeah so you poke Amarok and he falls over.

[warm yew]

im gonna assume its today

[normal lagoon]

It could be I guess.

[lofty kindle]

I don't think I'll have enough damage, I only have 8000M Crystal damage, how much does base amarok have?

[karmic zealot]

is it better to farm chaotic or nightmare kattlekruk for the strung tooth? most worth for strung tooth per keys

[bleak gazelle]

i heard he needs 1 solar damage

[normal lagoon]

S-SOLARTHIEF?!

[cosmic badge]

guys how can i lower my monster respawn rate in death bringer. i cant do this (yes i disabled tombstone but frogs respawn every 5-6 secs)

[void shell]

🤔 interesting

it does nothing but.. yay

[karmic zealot]

?

[simple wadi]

Chaotic.

[normal lagoon]

Chaotic is 1/28,572 & 5 keys, Nightmare is 1/2,500 & 70 keys
Chaotic becomes 1/142,860 per key, Nightmare becomes 1/175,000 per key
Chaotic is a touch better if you're concerned about keys

[karmic zealot]

not that concerned about the keys but i just dont have a lot

[lofty kindle]

For elims, you wanna have tombstone on and use the guaranteed explosions to wipe the map

[karmic zealot]

i only got a few thousands and i wanna get 8 strung tooths

[normal lagoon]

Gooooooooood luck with that

[bleak gazelle]

yuge

[karmic zealot]

is it that bad??

[normal lagoon]

At your DR? Yeah.

[granite geode]

how do i push my alchemy to lvl 80

[void shell]

oh nevermind it actually did something, now my crown odds cap at t2 instead of t3

[quick girder]

why does this seem like the fastest way to kill?

[normal lagoon]

AC/Bubo using CC

[quick girder]

what do yall run your talent order?

[normal lagoon]

Because it is?

[lofty kindle]

You'd be better off farming tremor wurms overnight on DK, getting like 50k keys, and then just running nightmare repeatedly

[normal lagoon]

Oh wait your talent order is ass

[karmic zealot]

is there a better pendant than the divine scarf around its level?

[normal lagoon]

Raise Dead is always the first skill (besides Crystal/CC)

[normal lagoon]

No but your DR is gonna prevent you from getting it

[granite geode]

should i have a solid setup for cc by the time i unlock vials that use toxic mercury?

[karmic zealot]

so what can i do?

[quick girder]

latley its been getting stuck and not getting used when its in the 1st or 2nd slot

[normal lagoon]

No you just, run CC

[lofty kindle]

You wanna get the necklace for sure, but with your DR, your best option is increasing your chances of getting by volume

[normal lagoon]

Remove Tampered Injection from your skills

[shadow lynx]

Just stick with caustic?

[karmic zealot]

caustic? from apex?

[normal lagoon]

@karmic zealot Return later after reaching W7

[quick girder]

is that a known issue?

[karmic zealot]

ill check for the DR on DK and ill let you know how much i got

[normal lagoon]

Tampered is ass anyway

[undone oar]

Yippee

[lofty kindle]

They can 100% get at least 1 necklace now, they just gotta farm out more keys

[karmic zealot]

im already at world 7💀

[normal lagoon]

They want EIGHT

[lofty kindle]

No, I mean use DK to farm more keys

[echo crag]

its a on next normal attack skill, thats why it does that, theres a few other mage skill that works that way

[karmic zealot]

oh

[normal lagoon]

How is your DR so bad then??? Did you not put points into the free 20x DR?

[quick girder]

all the other talents i have on the last page, doesnt taking them completly off loss you afk gains?

[shadow lynx]

Surely not for long if your dr is still 20

[bleak gazelle]

inb4 that's with the 20x

[normal lagoon]

Don't think so

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, I'm not telling to farm 8, I'm telling them to get 1 for now lol

[karmic zealot]

where is that?

[normal lagoon]

AIN'T NO WAY

[simple wadi]

Abilities that require a target and get queued, such as the blue mage ability, can cause raise dead to stop working if the ability queues when there's no enemies.

[normal lagoon]

Legend Points (Whallamus in W7 Town)

[shadow lynx]

Its a legend talent

[bleak gazelle]

it's theoretically possible if all they did was just push portals

[normal lagoon]

Also if you Git Gud at darts, there's a 9% DR Multi trophy from it (also 9% AFK Gains)

[karmic zealot]

im just not as efficient as yall im playing for "fun" if thats even something you do on idleon

[quick girder]

does this not want you tyo have the skills on the hotbar though?

[normal lagoon]

No that's fine, just surprised someone in W7 has 21 DR

[karmic zealot]

no i didnt bother spending any on the DR can i reset the points?

[echo crag]

at some point other attack dont do much

[karmic zealot]

youll be even more surprised if you saw my alchemy

[echo crag]

you can remove most of hte attack and wont notice a drop

[bleak gazelle]

time to get more levels

[normal lagoon]

You'll eventually just get a ton of points.

[karmic zealot]

its not that hard reaching world 7

[simple wadi]

It does, but at this point in the game it's not worth it. Especially if it breaks your chr, lol

[quick girder]

i never check lol

[karmic zealot]

how do you even get those? i had a few 10s and i just check for a guide photo.

[lofty kindle]

With how AC refunds cooldowns so quickly, having more abilities on the hotbar stops it from using the abilities you actually want it to use

[simple wadi]

Every 100 levels of a chr after 500

[quick girder]

makes sense

[normal lagoon]

Every 100 class levels past 400

[echo crag]

hell even just 1 ability + raise dead feel hard to cast now on AC

[normal lagoon]

(technically 400 since 500 gets you a point)

[upbeat shuttle]

I bought a slime familiar before the reset, did i lose it after the cost reset? Or is it still there? And how does the generate 10 ever hour work? I don't see it on my summoning tab for hourly rate

[quick girder]

you take your

[normal lagoon]

Not entirely accurate since later skills just won't be used, but Tampered Injection will get queued up if no mobs are around so Raise Dead will just get "stuck"

[lofty kindle]

Honestly, a lot of people's AC hotbar now is just CC, Raise Dead, and either Skulls or Flatulant Spirit and that's it

[zenith shoal]

finally unlocked chemical!!

[quick girder]

will have to try thast out

[karmic zealot]

uhhh so i need to farm character levels instead of the world 7 skills so i can get better DR, so i could farm KEYs, so I could get a better pendant, so i could have higher stats for all my characters, to farm more levels to get better things......

[simple wadi]

The exp tallies inside the perimeter of the summoning columns aand then grants you the exp when you walk into that area.

[lofty kindle]

I've seen it get really fucky with extra abilities on the bar ngl

[amber solstice]

when do we get our normal character size back 🗿

[normal lagoon]

I do AC > CC > Raise Dead > Skull > Fart Cloud > Aura > Canisters (2nd bar)
I will sometimes swap some stuff around, like putting Aura 4th over Skull if it's not in-form specifically, but the first 3 never move, and Tampered/Energy Bolt (idk if EB also does it too) are COMPLETELY off my bars.

[normal lagoon]

The biggest issue is when you hit 1s CD left, Tenteyecle won't work for it

For reasons unbeknownst to me

[echo crag]

EB does have same issue as injection

[quick girder]

So this is the "meta" setup

[drowsy sage]

how to get deathbringer masterclass?
inner voice says to crush 92 monsters
what does it mean by 'crush'? 100k kills??
please help

[normal lagoon]

You really do not want Arcanist Form on the main bar.

[normal lagoon]

Just killing once counts

[quick girder]

i have indeed accidently clicked it many a times

[amber solstice]

1 of each monster type. go from w1 to w6

[simple wadi]

Kill 92 different monsters.

[drowsy sage]

ohh

ohkkayy thank you guys !!

[echo crag]

better to do colo for most of the mob, since the 3 chest count as separate set of mob from each colo

[normal lagoon]

Try this: AC > CC > Raise Dead > Skull > Fart > Aura
You can mix around 1-3 (as long as Raise Dead is over the 4-6 skills), and 4-6 as well depending on circumstance, but yeah

[drowsy sage]

ohh

[subtle vine]

anyone knows why my sushi salt shaker is still empty even after 1 day?

[normal lagoon]

Aura would be SO good if it lasted longer

[normal lagoon]

Did your daily actually trigger? I know GWatches don't count for it

[simple wadi]

You need to buy this, apparently

[echo crag]

did you put a point in the reasearch for unlocking sushi ?

[subtle vine]

yeah triggered 12 hours ago, I was away for more than that

[subtle vine]

Oh I did not put points in there yet, maybe that is the cause?

[normal lagoon]

Oh, lol, that makes sense I bought it day 1 after getting the sailing island so I didn't know

I wouldn't be surprised if you need a point in there after the next patch goes up too since he did say you will need it eventually

[simple wadi]

I don't know why Lava opened sushi for everyone at first. Just give everyone a free research point from something.

[subtle vine]

alright fixed that! still 0 shaker tho shall see tomorrow's reset

[lofty kindle]

Cuz a free research point doesn't guarantee that people will actually have progressed their board towards where the unlock is

[simple wadi]

Exactly.

You get it =3

[normal lagoon]

Also that point should 100% go into Maw

[simple wadi]

Lol

[lofty kindle]

He wanted people to be able to do the new thing, even if they weren't that far into w7

[normal lagoon]

Cuz it just gets you 4-6 more points

[simple wadi]

@normal lagoon True

[lofty kindle]

Doesn't one of the really early sushi give 1 research point? That's like basically the same

[simple wadi]

When has that ever stopped him from gating people in the past? At least then they wouldn't be whining about not being able to do 54 sushi easily because of lack of research levels.

[lofty kindle]

Tbf, it's very possible to actually push to eggrolls & the research node without being at research 54

So people would still be complaining regardless

[rustic urchin]

[simple wadi]

Oh definitely

[normal lagoon]

Is 54 sushi the current "end"?

[drowsy sage]

holy shit ty for that advice

[normal lagoon]

ah

[lofty kindle]

It's probably because people complained about not having access to minehead when it dropped, even tho they were in w7

[normal lagoon]

I could probably push T54 sushi but man I really don't wanna go much further.

[lofty kindle]

51-54 don't have bonuses, only knowledge, so there's no need to currently

[echo crag]

lvl 61 research would make it nice to ahve that 54th sushi

[normal lagoon]

Yeah I know, but you said 54 also has the mega mult on Perfectio so...

[lofty kindle]

Ye, but 50 does too

[normal lagoon]

I wanna try and get that before I push Perfectio on all the lowbie sushi

[normal lagoon]

Okay but two mults > one mult

[rustic urchin]

dont tell me perfection odds get smaller the more you have

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, but one of them is gonna level up slowly and the other is gonna level up slow as piss

[rustic urchin]

[lofty kindle]

Each tier is apparently 80% the rate of the previous

[rustic urchin]

thats fine, just was afraid it was like collectibles

[lofty kindle]

I think someone was saying T54 is like 1 in a few 100m?

[crimson sorrel]

Yes

[echo crag]

thats fine, as long as getting the early ones doesnt hurt odds of later ones

[lofty kindle]

Fair

[normal lagoon]

It doesn't AFAIK

[simple wadi]

Good to see I'm not the only one with a T5 that refuses to perfecto

[normal lagoon]

It's just "Higher tier sushi is less likely"

[echo crag]

and since we cant delete sushi once we make that 54th thers not much point of keep making more

[normal lagoon]

God I hate the fact we can't drag sushi into a trash can

Cuz I wanna get like all of 1-25 perfectio'd but that's all earlier than sushi I actually care about for combining

Having to see sushi as early as T1 needing to grow all the way up to 30+ will be annoying

[simple wadi]

If only it worked like rat king crowns where it affects the archive and not what's on the board.

[echo crag]

theres also seem to be a cap on how many sushi get affected by heat of the east, like not just up to x tier, but the actual amount of sushi it can evolve

[rustic urchin]

just leave like 4 of each of the lower tiers and attempt perfectio once, it's a one and done

[normal lagoon]

I would probably do like 1 big wave of 1-25 and then a lot more of 26+

Just one each

[rustic urchin]

wait it only buffs the sushi you have on board?

[normal lagoon]

It attempts to buff sushi you have on board

[rustic urchin]

i just thinking on how to optimize for the least amount of low tier sushi attempts possible lol

[normal lagoon]

Once you land a Perfectio though you never need to use Pepper on that type of sushi again

[rustic urchin]

yeah I know, but once its perfectio'd, I don't need to have the sushi on board right?

check as in "don't need" I hope lol

[echo crag]

check as in correct

[rustic urchin]

what about this I fucked up the gifts

[normal lagoon]

@lofty kindle Btw the highest tier of your sushi makes lower tiers easier to perfectio, yeah?
EXCLUDING Knowledge from T50/T54, my chance to perfectio any piece of sushi goes up if my max tier is 54 vs say like 30, right?

[rustic urchin]

never doing bubba half asleep again

[normal lagoon]

You'll eventually get there 🥴

[rustic urchin]

oof

[raw crescent]

Will skull points in rift stay if I change map or switch characters?

[rustic urchin]

guess the best way is to do the double pats+boost hustle while I wait?

[normal lagoon]

I believe everything stays, the only thing that may not is Rift Tear (if 60m passes) and the Orb/Flag/Portal scores (since it's pass/fail)

[normal lagoon]

I just do single pats cuz I'm lazy, but you do EmulsifyJoy => Pats => EmulsifyHustle => Single click what you want to level (usually Rizz for Gift opening)

[simple wadi]

Emulsify "Mindful" and then keep clicking Bargain until Megaflesh's cost goes down by less than the cost of Bargain. Same with Cost Saver and Super Chart.

[normal lagoon]

(and Uber Gifts, and any other purchases you want to do)

[warm yew]

yikers

[normal lagoon]

But yeah EmulsifyMindful is important when you buy stuff like Super Chart, Uber Gifts, and pretty much anything else that isn't like "More Dice/Sides", "Bubba Boon", etc.

[candid bloom]

can someone send me a w5 worship guide

[rustic urchin]

its going down by 7Q and bargain costs 4330T (I think this is 4.3Q if i'm not that dumb)

[simple wadi]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558

[rustic urchin]

for cost saver and super chart, do I consider their own prices or the prices of bargain going down?

[simple wadi]

Their own prices. Your concern is getting Megaflesh's cost down without spending more than you're saving.

[candid bloom]

and what if i dont wanna change my towers constantly and just afk

[simple wadi]

Then don't use a guide and do whatever you feel is good for you.

[rustic urchin]

alright, they both cost over 20Q KEKW Don't think I'm touching them again

[rustic urchin]

pick one of those and have fun

[candid bloom]

none of them are good

[bleak gazelle]

just stick with top left/first one

[candid bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-12993999557818669691

[simple wadi]

"I want a guide, but I want a guide that doesn't make me perform better."

[candid bloom]

i wanna afk

[bleak gazelle]

if you're in the low TD range, check the masterlist for the wave 50 guides

[candid bloom]

[bleak gazelle]

otherwise, git gud and just use the top left setup for mostly hands off

[candid bloom]

top left barely has any damaging units

[simple wadi]

And I want to do it well once and then never again. Hence why I followed the guide to round 200+

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like your poison isn't in a good spot then, so yolo your own setup or look at the wave 50 guides

[drowsy sage]

why does bubo wanna kill tremer worms to become ac

[dire cedar]

all my TD is wave 140 ill do them once again once i get all the tower building maxed out TD is too fkin awful to want to do more than i have to

[bleak gazelle]

just ignore TD then

[candid bloom]

one just doesnt seem good enough compared to how many the other guides had

[echo crag]

cuz thats the map to CC farm

[drowsy sage]

ohh

[simple wadi]

Tbf the guides are a little dated. With super talent on the WW's root, you only get 16 seconds of down time on root. Can keep enemies locked in place with a lot less krakens than most of the guides call for.

[echo crag]

so bubo lived only on that map

[drowsy sage]

damnn

[bleak gazelle]

fair enough, but then people will complain they're dying because they're only at 450 talent level

[drowsy sage]

where and what the fuck is spirit reindeer

[rancid elm]

Yo guys can some one tell me how to increase my build rate it is 200 t

[candid bloom]

"only"

[rancid elm]

One of the 100 exclusive companion lava released

[echo crag]

deer that get spawn randomly in a map of a world, cant teleport to find it

[bleak gazelle]

channel your inner hunter

[drowsy sage]

ohhh

[simple wadi]

Just gotta track it down.

You'll know it when you see it.

[drowsy sage]

any map of any world?
even locked ones?

[echo crag]

carefull as some of the map numbering can be weird sometimes

[bleak gazelle]

any non-w6 map i believe

[rancid elm]

No

[drowsy sage]

ohh thats good then'

[rancid elm]

It's is only maps before w6

And you already need to unlock most to reach w6

[drowsy sage]

cough cough
i have unlocked no maps in my beast master

[simple wadi]

Isn't there a really stupid, secret way to unlock WW from W1?

[normal lagoon]

and the board is set for my daily

[echo crag]

proper lab slave as he should have been, until ww

[lofty kindle]

Yep

[halcyon glade]

Just reached Mastery VI on Sneaking. Realistically speaking, is there any reason to keep pushing? Or should I just park everyone in the safe zone to level up and roll for pristine charms?

[dire cedar]

finished my daily boss kills

[simple wadi]

Can't get pristines in the safe zone

[lofty kindle]

Go to slimes map, go to top platform, and spam the A in AFK INFO in the afk info menu

[halcyon glade]

Dang. Grinding yellow belts on MIV i guess, then

[proven mica]

What’s the best stat to have on captains in sailing to get artifacts

[drowsy sage]

ew he looks like dookie

[simple wadi]

Ender > Loot > Speed > Everythign else

[drowsy sage]

uh so any tips for what to do with wind walker?

[proven mica]

Yo thank you

[echo crag]

shiny/breedability leveling up is now viable since it got a proper respawn mech

[drowsy sage]

ohh

and uh what do i do with the wind walker?

[simple wadi]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1364336466679042138

[drowsy sage]

tyy!!

[lament heart]

in gambit, does mana cost for units increase as i use them or as the time passes?

[echo crag]

time

[bleak gazelle]

commit mass genocide

[echo crag]

unless doing the annoying one

[bleak gazelle]

kill mobs to level your mobs

-# that is so dumb, lava y did you rename it

[echo crag]

cuz ppl keeps on calling comapions pets

so some ppl where confused about breeding pet vs companion....

[subtle vine]

I can get 110k beans in my current crop transfer, time for a reset I think?

[bleak gazelle]

i mean that's fine, but why rename it to mob

[echo crag]

he should have just renamed them monster instad at this point, would feel less stupid

[simple wadi]

I'd like to think of myself as your companion. How come you never called me "Pet"?!

[subtle vine]

but I'll have to gather all the crops all over again.. such a bummer

[echo crag]

i mean, if thats what you want

[simple wadi]

It'll be a lot faster after you level Speed GMO and Super GMO

[normal lagoon]

Wait, does Automation Arm also automatically push the bars into my storage?

Oh cool, I thought I was going crazy

[echo crag]

cant confirm or deny that second part

[normal lagoon]

I know FOR A FACTI had stacks of ~250k of each godshard bar slot and I did NOT take them

[normal lagoon]

I meant crazy for another reason

[drowsy sage]

do bosses count for the deathbringer inner voice thingy?

[echo crag]

but only 1 time

[drowsy sage]

ohh

[echo crag]

like C and N version dont count as extra

[subtle vine]

how should the allocation be like? I'm assuming a little into everything and mostly into speed GMO and Super GMO?

[acoustic lance]

Is it possible to get multiple grand discovery in 1 run?

[crimson sorrel]

Yes

[drowsy sage]

ohh okayy

[acoustic lance]

Ty

[crimson sorrel]

[simple wadi]

I try to keep Evo and Speed about the same on cost and OG about half of their cost. Super GMO has a cap of 25% that you can aim for, and Exp GMO caps at 100%.

[echo crag]

until research boost those

[acoustic lance]

Also anyone else have crashes while doing spelunking on mobile? Arround delve 140?

[echo crag]

ppl still play on mobile

[subtle vine]

what about value GMO? I'm only getting 0.02% per lvl that seems like trash

[simple wadi]

I forgot that exists since value caps at 10k before exotic market. Yeah put points into it. Keep it equal to OG's cost until you see your value hit 10k (it's in the farming section of the character skill menu)

[light relic]

stop

[simple wadi]

This number. Although mine has a different cap because of exotics.

[subtle vine]

oh shit I have like 1% of that

to think I have so much lvls in the landrank for value how is my multiple so trash

[simple wadi]

Well you just did a reset, so of course.

[normal lagoon]

Wow I sure do love getting TWO bad cogs instead of 1 now
If only I bought Double Cogs from the Valentines event shop so I could have THREE bad cogs!

[subtle vine]

oh right

[light relic]

bad bad bad

[echo crag]

im glad i didnt buy that lol

[crimson sorrel]

[light relic]

pro

[normal lagoon]

I am too yeah, thankfully my second one is from Sushi

@lofty kindle GOD DAMN for ONE level?!

[simple wadi]

This actually looks like a shop I could enter now.

[light relic]

am to lazy playing other games so i dont do as much anymore but east wind method dope fr

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, shit's strong

[normal lagoon]

ONE level over TRIPLES Perfecto chance what the shit

Btw still haven't hit a cap

[drowsy sage]

I JUST WASTED 20 COLO TICKETS YAY

[lofty kindle]

That's why I was saying that 54 isn't all that necessary, since it gives like 3.73x in comparison

[normal lagoon]

Insanity.

[lofty kindle]

Barely an increase, and it's another few hours of sushi collecting

Sure, it's good to have both, but they'll both level super slowly anyways

[simple wadi]

But getting to 54 would level up 50's knowledge bonus to ~8 or so

[echo crag]

and once you get higher lvl of research you can give better exp to both

[lofty kindle]

That is true

Tho the big brain play is to actually focus on leveling T48 and 53 before 50 and 54

Since they increase slot effects, which increases the exp gain per day from milktoast slot, which will increase leveling speed

[alpine rune]

[subtle vine]

110k beans gone in a flash.. do I replant all my seeds and start from scratch and try get 100k of every crop?

[charred void]

i really want to increase my rates im not sure what to do (ofc exept beingon AC cuz that helps but not much...)

[deep star]

Is the Grimoire from the death bringer a very important feature that i should focus on at the beginning? Its pretty hard imo, i cant do anything beside Online AFK

[alpine rune]

How many Instagrow u got?

[subtle vine]

got like 140 accumulated

[simple wadi]

Next time you go to reset, harvest your plants and clear the fields. Then replant seeds and get each plant to be a different type of crop. Then do the reset. Your plants will still be there ready to harvest, and they'll have high OGs to give you a head start with your next run.

[split meteor]

I always plant 6 of each seed separated by 2-4 stages and have them all grown before trading

[subtle vine]

welp, didnt think of that

[candid bloom]

what can i do with many crab critters

[subtle vine]

my farming was still slow tho, like 15 mins per crop 1 OG cycle

shall see how much this reset boost

[simple wadi]

Gstack them

[candid bloom]

i have the max already

[alpine rune]

Try farming land ranks for now the bonuses help u quite a bit tho I wouldn't recommend using all ur Instagrow up

[candid bloom]

is there something that requires them? (except alchemy)

[subtle vine]

Yeah I'll probably plant like 6 of each type of seeds and grow from the start and get some land ranks up at the same time

[simple wadi]

Look them up on the wiki

[alpine rune]

Do that for now and later on when ur crop growth is faster u can try using glass crops for land and regular exp

[hoary wedge]

is the salt and pepper supposed to come back ever? after I used them I havnt gotten more

[simple wadi]

You need to put a point in this

[tired zealot]

Guys i have no ninjas lol has been like this for days

[simple wadi]

Change masteries

[tired zealot]

Oh

[tired zealot]

Yup worked tnx again

[young mango]

whats the best upgrade to biy

buy

[tired zealot]

What kind of upgrade

Like sneaking?

[young mango]

gems

[simple wadi]

He's clearly asking about upgrades for a Tesla Model Y

[young mango]

true

[tired zealot]

Tnx for this revelation

[simple wadi]

It depends on what world you're working on.

[tired zealot]

My most honest reaction

[young mango]

w7

[crimson sorrel]

can i sustain t22

[light relic]

nub

https://tenor.com/view/jago33-slot-machine-slot-online-casino-medan-gif-25082594

[normal lagoon]

Are you trying to 100% sustain? I personally like doing like 3 full boards or so and then doing something else, and coming back whenever I want.

[simple wadi]

Strictly looking at W7's shop, a single purchase of Bling Bag is great, as are the auto toggles for spelunking. Gallery bonus is good if you have a lot of nametags and trophies.

[crimson sorrel]

not 100% i am slow so not doing too fast

[normal lagoon]

Note: Auto is only good for the POW, otherwise Auto sucks

[normal lagoon]

I mean I just like having 30m to fill my cap I'm trying to mix Clamworks with it

[simple wadi]

I've found that using the first green auto doesn't waste shadow strikes.

[light relic]

new cap

[normal lagoon]

Okay but Auto still stinky

TBH though Auto is actually good for the primary ~80% of a Glitterend Amber

Cuz you just want to full clear and who cares if it's inefficient as long as it clears

And then once you hit your threshold for red pots, you manually take over

[young mango]

i only have okish trophy the best one being w6 trophy

[normal lagoon]

I'm gonna try that in a few weeks when I do another amber run

[normal lagoon]

The only trophies that really matter are Luckiest Lad and 9 Darter, though W6 isn't bad after those.

[bleak gazelle]

9 darter isn't real

[normal lagoon]

I keep telling people to try and get a bit high for it

[light relic]

how to farm luckiest lad

[young mango]

dk and pray

[normal lagoon]

Don't get like, super stoned to the point you can't function, but just a solid high will relax you enough to do better at it

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

Just wait, you'll eventually get it

If you try to actively farm for it specifically, you will go BONKERS

[crimson sorrel]

get high then try it

[normal lagoon]

I got my first by actively grinding Coralcave Guardians overnight

[light relic]

but i only have 1333 dr

[normal lagoon]

Before multis, it only adds 7.77x

[crimson sorrel]

i also had 1400 something when i got it

[young mango]

gotta teach me how u get it from samurai guardian

[normal lagoon]

You, literally can't

It drops from any W7 mob specifically (excluding Clams)

[frosty cipher]

Well that improved greatly

[crimson sorrel]

get lucky lad and paint it blue

[frosty cipher]

oh wait

[normal lagoon]

God I haven't sampled since statue week

[light relic]

whale

[normal lagoon]

I wonder at what point I'm gonna filter Luckiest Lad

I'm saving them just in case Lava pulls a Luckiester Lad

[light relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1058025982805688343/1479115002450542632/IMG_9874.gif

[normal lagoon]

What the fuck is this

[light relic]

tragic

[normal lagoon]

So close to 50 🎉

[simple wadi]

[grizzled agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1305226325514256499/1407840107314151535/EVIL.gif

[normal lagoon]

You'll get there! 50 kinda sucks anyway (better for the knowledge)

[young mango]

i thought u write samurai guardian

[light relic]

is that takanakas cat

[crimson sorrel]

crab gurdian

[normal lagoon]

Lol nope, Coralcave

[simple wadi]

At least this next one I'll be able to confirm for @willow siren whether or not the 49th tier sushi is multi or not. Because apparently it's a big deal for him to know.

[grizzled agate]

evil cat

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1189666903338254448/1215748065814646824/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

SHIT, I FORGOT MY TIKTOK STREAK

its too late now, its the next day now

[light relic]

oh nah thats @pastel kayak

evil mew alert

[narrow iron]

gold

[young mango]

oh

[loud cloak]

For arcanist weapons, better to focus on weapon power? And what does the quality do?

[lofty kindle]

The bonus? It is

[normal lagoon]

It is

[grizzled agate]

pls buy me Takanaka live ticket

[normal lagoon]

It's definitely a multi

[light relic]

lava has claims on our wallet

[normal lagoon]

My DR went from 11XXX to 12XXX (don't remember exact numbers but it was like +~1100 DR)

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/peden-gif-17408861958727272113

[lofty kindle]

Lava better announce 5th anniversary

[normal lagoon]

I'm scared honestly

Inb4 crazy nametag I gotta blitz all my gems to get 5x, plus lord knows how many bundles and pets

[lofty kindle]

inb4 Lava forgot his own game's anniversay 💀 💀 💀

[light relic]

possible after 4th is 5th wall after all

[frail panther]

hey char, im going insane

[normal lagoon]

Honestly possible since he didn't even mention it on the stream on Sunday IIRC

[normal lagoon]

Char... Mander?

[light relic]

so update day after or tmmrow?

[normal lagoon]

(yes I know it's Chat typo'd)

[normal lagoon]

Depends if he forgor the anniversary or not I guess lol

[lofty kindle]

I need him to say if it's actually happening today or not, cuz I wanna take a nap, but I know the moment I lie down, his ass is gonna be live on twitch

[frail panther]

nono I meant char, was talking to my pokemon starter who lurkshere

[normal lagoon]

Btw fun fact, my friend told me today is Final Fantasy 6's birthday as well

So IO and FF6 share a birthday

[light relic]

didnt know aniversery next

[normal lagoon]

Wild when you think about that

[frail panther]

bro is literally waiting for you to sleep, stalking this chat

[light relic]

luckily my wallet ready this time

[normal lagoon]

Given it's already 1p, I feel like it's not happening now.

If he was smarter, he'd schedule these things

[crimson sorrel]

give me sleep

[grizzled agate]

Is ur wallet ready for Takanaka ticket ?

[normal lagoon]

Or at least give people a heads up

[grizzled agate]

Give me Takanaka Live Ticket

[crimson sorrel]

no

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-police-writing-noted-notes-gif-19294706

[grizzled agate]

Also hello Mr.ShokeenJ

[light relic]

yeah u got a ticket for trespassing

[normal lagoon]

I could see him holding off on the anniversary event given we just had two events back to back

[grizzled agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1189666903338254448/1215748065814646824/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

Like just because today is the Anniv doesn't mean the event has to come

[lofty kindle]

Apparently the last 2 anniversaries started exactly on the 2nd tho

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/maya-higa-punch-hit-fist-gif-666724713643873003

[grizzled agate]

Today is Takanaka live

[normal lagoon]

Yeah but valentine's came super late and also pushed too close to St Patrick's

[lofty kindle]

True, but if I know one thing about anniversaries, it's that you don't wanna miss them

[normal lagoon]

He should also not use a weekly patch to implement an event IMO.

As in the patch should be a patch with the event tagged on

Like he really doesn't need to put too much time into events.

[grizzled agate]

Lava should focus on fixing 67+ bugs in this game

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/autumn-autumn-greetings-fall-greetings-autumn-glitter-fall-glitter-gif-11047990288385894369

[normal lagoon]

(hell just recycle past ones, I would have LOVED ENVELOPES, LAVA )

[normal lagoon]

Right?

I'd unironically be fine with a huge bug fix patch. It's why I was MASSIVELY disappointed with the QoL patch

He made it seem like a huge deal and it wasn't really

[light relic]

yes

[grizzled agate]

surfboard guitar time

https://tenor.com/view/takanaka-guitar-guitarist-masayoshi-takanaka-gif-26803330

[bleak gazelle]

Generally at most he'll do some bug fixes and qol with an event patch...and that's just with the recent like 4 events, prior to 2025 it was literally like "here's the event, bye for a week or two"

[lofty kindle]

Surf dracula

[normal lagoon]

Like looking at this whole list, nothing is crazy significant, they're very tiny changes, albeit very nice to have.
IMO the most game-changing part of that patch was changing Statue Carry Cap from 10m to 1b

[grizzled agate]

Lwk in the sushi station path note brotato chip fixed 2 bugs i didnt even know it exist

[normal lagoon]

At least Sushi Station is cool and kinda fun

[grizzled agate]

Merge Simulator

[normal lagoon]

It's just, a QoL nightmare.

[normal lagoon]

But numbers go up and bonuses

[grizzled agate]

Its just merge simulator

[crimson sorrel]

[grizzled agate]

Like other merge game

[lofty kindle]

Fast sailing chest claiming and fast log game were nice

[normal lagoon]

Yeah but they're not significant changes just "things that should have been here from the start"

[grizzled agate]

You wait for energy, you buy new sushi, you wait for money you get a bit of upgrade, then merge

Then organize and buy more sushi and merge

[normal lagoon]

and if it was on QuickRef, I'd probably be doing it the entirety of my time farming mobs.

[grizzled agate]

And get bonuses like Burger

[normal lagoon]

Or while idly watching something on second monitor

[grizzled agate]

After wasting a shitton of time on sushi

[normal lagoon]

Okay, yes, Burger is obnoxious and not funny, but there's plenty of better bonuses

[normal lagoon]

Okay and DEPTH CHARGE?

[grizzled agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783545628964814848/1353753668188373085/GIF_20250324_123317_096.gif

[normal lagoon]

RNG Drives You Insane Simulator that gives actually shit bonuses

[grizzled agate]

Depth charge, forgo whats that

[normal lagoon]

Minehead

[grizzled agate]

Maybe too sleepy ?

[normal lagoon]

It's the worst addition to the game.

I find WORSHIP TD better.

[grizzled agate]

Tell me about it, lwk too sleepy to remember

[normal lagoon]

This trash

[grizzled agate]

Or should i say i dont read anything

[normal lagoon]

(bad example cuz that boss actually gives something good)

[median pagoda]

Agreed, just random clicking

[grizzled agate]

Oh that

[frail panther]

is the lvl up chance for all tiered sushi the same, specifically t52

[normal lagoon]

But my point is DC gives mostly shit bonuses while Sushi gives like half solid bonuses half whatever bonuses

[median pagoda]

even stuck at the same one as you. This one feels like a wall

[normal lagoon]

Also THE FIRST SUSHI is a MASSIVE bonus

[grizzled agate]

Then the rest mid

Except that extra event play

[frail panther]

idk man, 10% dr multi, +1 tiny cog, 1.3× div, 3× spelunking pow, 2.5× spelunking amber

[grizzled agate]

Im hardstuck in gaming

Even with koi

[normal lagoon]

I'm getting tired of your lies

[grizzled agate]

Dang it, i need more bits

[normal lagoon]

That's just the first 15 too

[frail panther]

@normal lagoon

[grizzled agate]

Well some are not mid

[normal lagoon]

I didn't even include a few other notable sushi like these

[normal lagoon]

Define: "Level Up Chance"

[frail panther]

salt

[normal lagoon]

Salt is same as Pepper: Higher chance on lower tiers

[frail panther]

fucking bullshit useless

[normal lagoon]

It's not.

[bleak gazelle]

gaming harvest all change was pretty significant, but yeah other than that, some just really nice qol (fast sailing before new artis came out, fast log before that one zuper bit or w/e that gave log multi)
-# and then some wtf are you smoking this isn't good

[normal lagoon]

It's also still a tiny toggle of "this should have been here from the start"

[frail panther]

wha am I supposed to use it on

[grizzled agate]

I lwk know begging for pets are bad but lava keeps releasing pets with op bonus, i feel like im addicted

[normal lagoon]

Fuck if I know cuz I'm saving my shakers to see what the cap is

It's not 5 btw.

[frail panther]

I mean same but they're still useless 😭

[normal lagoon]

CALLED IT

@lofty kindle Have fun sleeping

[grizzled agate]

Later in the month

[normal lagoon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grizzled agate]

Prob tomorrow

[normal lagoon]

I'M BIG AGAIN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[median pagoda]

any advice?

[grizzled agate]

Evo chance

[lofty kindle]

Yippee I guess

[grizzled agate]

Value max cap

Thats what i put in, idk

[median pagoda]

not sure if joke

[bleak gazelle]

shouldn't have cloud saved

[grizzled agate]

Oh then idk, i dont like farming

[bleak gazelle]

stalk and plump

[lofty kindle]

Christmas is canceled, I'm taking a nap

[normal lagoon]

Plump and Stalk are the main two, Farmer isn't bad

[normal lagoon]

Not on this week.

[median pagoda]

sounds good. I still have no idea how max cap actually works

[normal lagoon]

Large evo pile is nice to futureproof, but Stalk and Plump are way more important atm

[normal lagoon]

Base Value cap is 10k, Max Cap pushes it further

[grizzled agate]

Idk anything bout farming

Dang it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jumpscare-box-gif-23315552

[bleak gazelle]

nah, if you need evo, just work on gmo

[normal lagoon]

Evo at this point is mostly for futureproofing and shouldn't really be bothered with unless you have nothing else better to buy

[median pagoda]

ok, I'm not doing too shabby I guess

[normal lagoon]

1 point in research is so nice for GMOs

Just one, a single point is all you need 👌

(Bean cost gets too high past that)

[grizzled agate]

How to stop being addicted to pets

[median pagoda]

Get them all.

[grizzled agate]

[normal lagoon]

Just swipe card til you have them all, easy

[quick girder]

Just a little over due leveling that needed to be done

[normal lagoon]

(ideally trade for some of the banner pets or ones you can't just get via bundles)

[crimson sorrel]

i am tired

[normal lagoon]

Can't be tired til you get least 49

[grizzled agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1189666903338254448/1215748065814646824/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

[normal lagoon]

Think of the DR MULTI

[crimson sorrel]

i get 50 tommorow

[grizzled agate]

Im still at 20

Me nub

[dire seal]

hi everyone

[deep star]

i am currently very small, why is that so?

[dire seal]

just a dumb question

[frail panther]

hecker

[dire seal]

is cobalts +60% DR additive or multi?

[frail panther]

@normal lagoon what's t53 knowledge bonus

[grizzled agate]

Multi, because it cost money

[crimson sorrel]

just wait for shushi pet then get pro

[grizzled agate]

Sushi

Pet

[normal lagoon]

50 is my current max so idk.

[crimson sorrel]

[normal lagoon]

Look at your IT page if you wanna know

[dire seal]

do you have cobalt? you are whale, you should

[frail panther]

this is very sad

[grizzled agate]

Talking about sushi, what do u call a bee that likes sushi

[crimson sorrel]

what is that

[normal lagoon]

For someone who has spent a grand total of 24 gems on Sushi, I'd say my prog is pretty damn good, thank you very much

[dire seal]

this thing

[crimson sorrel]

nah

[dire seal]

idk if these 60% are multi or additive

[grizzled agate]

Wasa”bee”

[crimson sorrel]

additive

[normal lagoon]

The DR on the robe isn't great; you use it for Damage

[frail panther]

no it's sad for me, I have to be not lazy and ask somewhere else

[normal lagoon]

Oh lol

[grizzled agate]

Huh, its not multi !?

[dire seal]

tf? you mean i get only +0.6 of dr? wow, amazing difference

[normal lagoon]

Nope.

[crimson sorrel]

pack bonus is good

[grizzled agate]

I thought it must be multi because it cost money

[bleak gazelle]

i need to use the sushi timeskips before they're gone really wish he'd just made them items...

[dire seal]

meh, i dont thikn its worth those money then, ill wait for anniversary, 100% new package incoming

[crimson sorrel]

30% afk

[dire seal]

same lol

[crimson sorrel]

and villager exp

[normal lagoon]

It's pretty good for a max damage set. I leave it on my AC

[dire seal]

stfu, go away, dont do that to me

[normal lagoon]

Cobalt Robe, new Sushi Cape for max deeps

[dire seal]

i have sushi wings and that mine bundle

metall something

[normal lagoon]

Heavy Metal Bundle/Bulwark Armor

does Bulwark have damage on it?

[normal lagoon]

Oh it's 3x nvm that's max damage lol

[grizzled agate]

I want attire, but me broke ass, how to attire and bundle wings

[normal lagoon]

Damn that makes Cobalt robe obsolete now until Attire Armoire

if Wing Rack/Attire Armoire ever gets added, I think that'd be like a 20~30x damage increase for me

[frail panther]

sleepy beyond reason, do I push? it'll take me 6 cycles

[normal lagoon]

stahp

[grizzled agate]

All my chars are naked

[frail panther]

pushing oke

[normal lagoon]

Pfffffff, this went from 5x => ~11x => 33.7x

How do I keep doing this

[dire seal]

it will be awesome if we get armor rack, i wouldnt need to switch armor every time for something specific

[grizzled agate]

Its attire

[normal lagoon]

Technically the same thing

Clothing is technically cloth armor.

[dire seal]

🤓 🤌

i am illiterate and i cant read, thats why i play idleon

[grizzled agate]

https://tenor.com/view/takanaka-guitar-guitarist-masayoshi-takanaka-gif-26803330

[crimson sorrel]

fill board with t54

[normal lagoon]

Imagine also playing FFXIV so you can be twice as illiterate

[grizzled agate]

I know surdboard guitar only

[dire seal]

whats FFXIV

[grizzled agate]

And me sleepy, me sleep now. Bye everyone

[frail panther]

tmr, I'm not pushing t54 today

[normal lagoon]

This apparently.

Me sitting in front of my retainer bell all day

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/hildy-hildibrand-ff14-ffxiv-shocked-gif-25897163

[dire seal]

but what is FFXIV

[normal lagoon]

Final Fantasy 14

[dire seal]

ooh

ive never played any final fantasy part

[normal lagoon]

God I need to do the new Hildibrand stuff.

[simple wadi]

FF14 is an MMO, whereas most FF games aare single player.

[echo crag]

yeah i'm a bit behind on msq and hildy, need to start playing agin, specially with mogtome event

[dusk knoll]

to make lvl 1 sushi perfecto need to have it on the board ?

[normal lagoon]

Literally every mainline FF is single player except 11 and 14 (MMOs)

[dire seal]

interesting, is it similar to idleon?

no interesting

[echo crag]

beside lack of reading skill XD

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/miya-miqo-miqote-catgirl-cat-gif-14441970184536525255

[normal lagoon]

It's an actual "MMORPG" as opposed to "Single Player Massively Online" game that IO is

[frail panther]

bruh I didn't get e27 from this, scam

[normal lagoon]

SLEEP

[crimson sorrel]

get t54 then sleep

[prime compass]

well that depends on who you talk to. most people would say its a single player game with hubs

[normal lagoon]

MSQ is SP, but the game itself is MP.
IO is MP for Dungeons and... that's it.

[echo crag]

single player game with mmo element tacked to it

[normal lagoon]

(and even dungeons is hardly MP)

[frail panther]

okge I have gym n school tmr morning anyways xd would've slept after this

[prime compass]

me when my dungeons are SP

[crimson sorrel]

sushi addict

[normal lagoon]

I like getting through them sooner than 30 minutes, tyvm

@simple wadi Too slow

[crimson sorrel]

we did not see that

[prime compass]

personally i love wiping everytime i die, because i suck at the game

[crimson sorrel]

[dire seal]

have you been trolling me that i need to collect 1 plant and roll for mutation? or is it real?

[echo crag]

on a side note, discord suggest some nice gif when looking up mandervil :3

[normal lagoon]

wtf how did you get one DNA

I could never get less than 2

[dire seal]

i get 1 from almost all of the plants

so idk if i should roll after collecting each plant

[normal lagoon]

I'm pretty sure it's not actually 0 though since 2 gave like 0.1%

[dire seal]

or someone just joked around

[normal lagoon]

You're supposed to yes, it's the best chance

[bleak gazelle]

it's never 0

[dire seal]

tf you mean "best chance"? its 0.000x something change

[lament heart]

How much forge capacity is it actually worth it to get from the conjurer

[normal lagoon]

"Death by a Thousand Cuts" is much better than stockpiling like 1000 DNA for a 0.5% chance.

[bleak gazelle]

quantity > quality

[normal lagoon]

Yes.
(AFTER you get the important Blue/Red points though)

[shadow lynx]

All of it

[bleak gazelle]

you also buld up bad luck protection as you continue to fail (i'm not sure if this scale by number or rolls or number of dna used)

[normal lagoon]

@lament heart Wanna see a cool trick?

[lament heart]

Man i got all of it and forging became so quick its actually annoying

[normal lagoon]

Cool trick, right?

[lament heart]

Having to contantly switch my prints cuz ores deplete so fast is annoying

[normal lagoon]

Manually mining has been so much easier I've found

[bleak gazelle]

i should probably go poke some gshard rocks sometime

[normal lagoon]

Speaking of, time to restock

[lament heart]

How do they not trigger atom colider?

[crimson sorrel]

fuk u lava i dont have gems to gamble anymore

[echo crag]

collider trigger if you have a stack of more than 1050