lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[faint wigeon]

looking at wiki it sayd woodlin spirits but who knows 🍝

[crude plinth]

Because Lava develops the game using Stencyl, which automatically allows exporting on every platform so he just does it because that's convenient

[pulsar zinc]

195 my ass 17*8 is 136 lol

[gritty plover]

damn alright thx

[strong shuttle]

finally

[bleak gazelle]

the best way to get higher plant evos is to just get more speed

[hot holly]

Idk I just feel like the game is against me. I have been trying so hard to fix things, all so I can do w7 with everyone, but I cant. Theres always something else in the way, another mechanic i didnt know existed cause it wasn't explained in game, or was designed for pc

[oblique heron]

That's not wodeboards

[crude plinth]

The game can be more fun if you switch to actually idle mode, leave it for a few days and come back to claim your afk hours

It's not fun if you're trying to min-max constantly and rush the content

[bleak gazelle]

well, for some people it is

[faint wigeon]

if you look carefully on the bridge there's planks, that's basically dead wodeboards

[bleak gazelle]

they're the strange ones though

[hot holly]

But thats were I get the most fun. From the new content. I have felt behind my entire play though. I just want to feel like my progress matters, like I can actually understand. Cause I haven't had any actually fun since I breezed through w5

[strong shuttle]

i did those :D

[crude plinth]

Well the way IdleOn is designed, literally everything you do is progress that affects other progress, so any progress technically always matters

if you are running into a wall with masterclasses, then work on other things that is still progress

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-hands-up-druski-shrug-druski-idk-meme-gif-7093177929627107381

Felt like it ig 🤷‍♂️

[hot holly]

But it doesnt feel like it matter. Getting Chopping efficiency can only get me so far

[hot holly]

I dont have anything else to do, everything else is either done or a wait, this is the only thing I have left

[crude plinth]

it'll still add up and give you bigger prints and more atoms, and give you more skill levels and more everlog chop rate

[crude plinth]

it's stamina week right now so you should be able to do spelunking pretty often

[hot holly]

Im at about mid level 30s in spelunking so I have to wait to level up

[pastel kayak]

It is a white out from frog here @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

this is an incremental game with some strong p2w boosts (but they're still mid if you don't have a solid base)
everything makes number go up, so find out what you like to do and work on that

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[bleak gazelle]

that was here last night

[hot holly]

I like portal pushing, grinding the slab and armor sets bonuses

[pastel kayak]

Going to be warm at 34c today here that is 93f here @bleak gazelle

[strong shuttle]

if it isnt dr house

[bleak gazelle]

Perfect, so work on those, and when they feel slow, find things that help speed those up
As you work with more mechanics, you might find more things you like (and a bunch you don't)

[strong shuttle]

i can do it

[hot holly]

Im at w7. Those are the only things I like. Im hard capped cause I cant do anything in w7

[crude plinth]

what the heck is that chance

[silver stratus]

I thought it capped at .01%

[bleak gazelle]

Well, then you either chip away slowly at it or find a different game

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-snake-viper-ahhhhh-tiny-gif-7265938965822032656

[crude plinth]

no, it just displayed that way but in reality the chances are lower and now the real chances are displayed in the recent update

[silver stratus]

Despair

[bleak gazelle]

ayo, thanks for the laugh

[crude plinth]

good to know number displays are not consistent across the game

is that like 1 in 27QQ chance, whew

[strong shuttle]

these should be the odds of getting it :D

[hot holly]

I haven't found a different game cause I feel awful about every other game, either out of boredom or stagnation. This is one of the few thing I have to do, but its so miserable

[storm ember]

the spectrum of "end game" is nuts. i got 8 chest slots and 4 boats xD

[strong shuttle]

gives you something to work for :D

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, i feel that, nothing else really hits all the boxes this one does
might be best to take a break from it, just a short one a week or two (or 6 months like my last one ) , or just lay out everything you need to do an go at it piece by piece

[crude plinth]

you do make progress in IdleOn by not playing it too, so that's a valid strategy when you're bored or not feeling it

just look at this guy who claimed 100000 hours of monuments by not playing for a year

[hot holly]

I tried that. Thats how I ended up in this situation

[crude plinth]

I see

[grave hatch]

Hey leave my cousin alone

[pastel kayak]

Bad @strong shuttle alert

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/pill-gif-18490698

[hot holly]

I took a bit of a break, claiming my gains once every few days, and when I came back I was behind.

And had no idea what to do or how to fix it

[crude plinth]

Are you 100% mobile only?

[hot holly]

Yes

[crude plinth]

dang, like no chance to even get a laptop at some point? this game runs fine on laptops

[hot holly]

No. The laptop i have is too valuable to play idleon 24/7

[crude plinth]

ah I see

you think the game will harm your laptop 🤔

[hot holly]

No

[bleak gazelle]

could also just get off discord to stop comparing yourself to whales who have the game up 24/7

[hot holly]

And just be stuck in my stagnation?

[crude plinth]

Yeah just treat IdleOn as a completely single player experience, don't look at other people's progress

[faint wigeon]

Gotta go boast in endgame chat once in a while
-# then get humbled

[crude plinth]

But your definition of stagnation isn't really stagnation; anything you do is progress

Your standards are just too high for being mobile only and I don't know what you mean by your laptop is too valuable to play IdleOn

[hot holly]

Other people need the same laptop

[crude plinth]

oh interesting

[hot holly]

Other people need to do their taxes, fillout information for college

Me playing a game isn't worth using that laptop constantly amd possibly causing damage

Thats why I try to play on my phone, cause the only person who damage to my phone effects is me

[crude plinth]

makes sense

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/pcmr-pc-master-race-pc-master-race-gif-14892546

[hot holly]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[grave hatch]

GN

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/safuu-eat-sleep-repeat-eat-sleep-safuu-repeat-safuu-party-safuu-dance-gif-25597269

[faint wigeon]

Nighty nighty

[hot holly]

Dont get it

[rotund kite]

Bubba mini game breaks my tiny brain. Even with the optimizer I havent the slightest clue as to wtf im supposed to be doing

[strong shuttle]

optimize the yield to best of your abilities so next megaflesh takes the least ammount of time to reach

[rotund kite]

Yeah idk what that even means, is there any youtube videos about it?

[dire seal]

does someone know where can i claim this? what is this?

[strong shuttle]

there is a tool that calculates it for you, idk where tho i only saw it before

[hot holly]

I tried using the auto review but it feels so overwhelming. Its just like "go get 8 million gfood now. Should be simple" when it very much is not simple

[dire seal]

what is this shimmer? i see this for first time and it says w2

[hot holly]

One of the island you can travel to at the end of the fishing branches

Next time ask the w2 chat

[dire seal]

if i checked correctly now, its 5th island?

[rotund kite]

https://idleon-optimizer.vercel.app/bubba

I believe its this, but I dont even understand what this thing is saying lmao

[hot holly]

Idk. Unlock them all

[rotund kite]

Not a single mechanic in this game has broken my brain as much as Bubba, genuinely cant even begin to grasp wth im supposed to be doing

[dire seal]

🤓

[hot holly]

Youre question was the equivalent of going into a college campus to ask what's 6x3

[dire seal]

99.9% in this chat are already in w7, so maybe all should move to w7 chat?

[rotund kite]

do these matter or do i get them all eventually anyway

[hot holly]

No cause this chat is about w7 mechanics. Yoy asked a out a w2 mechanic. Ask w2

[faint wigeon]

2 option
One really good
One not that good

Surely meat production

[dire seal]

this is w5-w6 chat lel, its not about w7 mechanics

[faint wigeon]

Or could check #1447807595644719225

[hot holly]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[faint wigeon]

You’d be surprised. If it’s like that it’d be forbidden to talk about w4 or below mechanics in here?

[rotund kite]

WHY IS A CLICKER GUIDE THE LENGTH OF SHAKESPEARS ENTIRE COLLECTION

yeah idk man this ones a pass from me

maybe one day ill be bright enough

[faint wigeon]

It’s genuinely so fucking complicated for no reason

[dire seal]

uh, what?

[crude plinth]

It's not that complicated, biggest thing to watch out for is don't click Open Gifts until later

[faint wigeon]

You’re saying w7 mechanic should be talk in w7 chat. So should it be same for w4/3/2/1?

[steady beacon]

In this chart, should we be maxing out the levels of the s rank? Or are some of them take one level only"?

[strong shuttle]

this is safe haven for people that enjoy leisure aproach to the game, in w7 chat the ammount of weeks old sweat is fascinating

[dire seal]

its not me, its person i replied to told me to go to w2 chat to ask about shimmers

[rotund kite]

think i can get away with "spam random buttons except open gifts" orrrrr

[faint wigeon]

Ahh

[crude plinth]

depends on what you need but don't just max out everything yet

[dire oracle]

how did you guys push diamond chef bubble, through NBLB or insane spice gains?

[faint wigeon]

Hmm most are maxing is better than one point

[dire seal]

yeah, thats why i compared this chat to w7 chat... im not that nerd

[faint wigeon]

Spice + bargain tag

[crude plinth]

don't spam Dice Rolls and Smoker either

[hot holly]

I just uploaded my tool box. Can someone help me figure out what to do that isn't time gated and isn't ww?

[dire seal]

hmmm, sounds like i can get there couple of really nice advices from those people who never saw grass except from grass in w1

[rotund kite]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-raa-gif-14938908953589068603

[crude plinth]

Gaming is never time gated, just keep playing that to progress your account a lot

[steady beacon]

Well for example do I max out kaleidoscopes and magnifiers? What about game designs 101 and 102?

[hot holly]

Gaming for me is time gated

[dire seal]

imagine getting this thing... wow, i really love this game

[autumn salmon]

Bro snail

[crude plinth]

Yeah those are good to max out first, basically you can max out anything that's research XP related except the top 2 for now

[echo crag]

get o8, n8 is lower priority over other source of research exp

[autumn salmon]

Snail is big one timegated

[hot holly]

So why would you tell me to do it?

I asked for things that aren't time gated

[echo crag]

this what i get for looking at optimizer instead of teleporting

[crude plinth]

Do you have chemical plant unlocked? and what's your non palette time?

it's not time gated if you cycle your chemical plants with sprinkler and log game

[autumn salmon]

meh i missing my gaming merit bcause snail..

[hot holly]

Yes and 9 seconds. But I need the pallete cause mine looks like this

[steady beacon]

I have at least one level in all of the S tier spots. Just trying to figure out which ones to max out first.

[crude plinth]

9 seconds is plenty to work on your Gaming outside of palette, and once you upgrade more of your stuff then you can go back to Palette later

you can keep upgrading your squirrel's speed bonus by grinding chemicals/log game/sprinkler on repeat at only 9 seconds

If you're just waiting for natural time to pass in Palette mode, that's way too slow to progress your Gaming

[steady beacon]

If anyone can screenshot their advanced research grid, that would help a lot!

[crude plinth]

I don't have all the shapes but this is what I spent points on so far

[steady beacon]

Thanks! Also wow, that's 2 more shapes than me.

[hot holly]

Is there something I can do thats a little more engaging. I cant just sit here and keep clicking the collect all button over and over

[shadow lynx]

do i trade them in 1 by 1 or just setup gmos before trading all in

[rotund kite]

does this mean do one of each crop?

[shadow lynx]

yea i thought so bc of value gmo

my last one was 30k lol

[crude plinth]

Is tower defense rough on mobile too? looks like you're just missing one tower defense wave 121

[rotund kite]

Nearly impossible

[hot holly]

Its basically impossible

[rotund kite]

Same with pet battles

[crude plinth]

dang, how did you get so many waves then?

[hot holly]

Game will crash

[crude plinth]

you have 130-140 on the first five and 120 on citric

[hot holly]

Game crashed

[shadow lynx]

i think i saw someone set up the first 6 of each crop is that right

[hot holly]

Could have gone higher

[crude plinth]

yeah your equinox is one off

[hot holly]

I know

Its killing me too

[crude plinth]

you're super close on these two as well

[hot holly]

Same with the green stack one

[crude plinth]

and only 2 more portals for speedrun

not sure if you got the hidden portals like the rift portal

[hot holly]

Couldn't do it

I only barely made it to 73

[crude plinth]

how many bosses are you able to beat on highest difficulty during a speedrun?

[rotund kite]

are you following the guide?

[hot holly]

No cause I dont want to

[hot holly]

Like 4

[rotund kite]

well thats prob why then 😄 youre likely missing easy portals since the optimal vman pathing isnt the normal pathing

[crude plinth]

ok so that's 12 portals, if you can beat a 5th boss on medium that's +2

[hot holly]

Idc. Im not trying to be hyper optimized

[hot holly]

Couldn't reach him

[rotund kite]

Fair enough, Im the same way with some aspects of the game, the difficulty just scales if youre going off the beaten path so thats why youre missing an easy equinox

[hot holly]

Well its easy to you

[rotund kite]

If youre at 72 without running the path then youd easily get it while going the right path

[hot holly]

I dont have enough multi

Been working on that forever but barely anything gives it

[rotund kite]

For example, on sticks, are you only opening one portal, or two?

[autumn salmon]

Bro u just need better feasty,dragon and zenith

[hot holly]

Going up one, unlock that portal, then to w2

[rotund kite]

Yeah see sticks has two portals that you can open, one at 2.5k one at 50k

[hot holly]

I cant get 50k in one hit

I need more multi

[rotund kite]

Youre doing these in one hit?

[hot holly]

Yeah most of them up till w4

[rotund kite]

You have way more than enough to finish if you just go the right way 😄

[hot holly]

I dont want to

Sounds too much like homework

[rotund kite]

lmao dood i know, im not trying to force you to

im just saying how it is

[hot holly]

Im trying to avoid doing games that are secretly homework

[rotund kite]

i feel like this may be the completely wrong game for that hahahaha

[crude plinth]

Oof 100k monument hours was banned, all messages gone

[drifting oak]

Whats a good time to start pushing world 6

[hot holly]

Never

You've reached the threshold for good content

[rotund kite]

When you can meet portal requirements within a day or two imo

W7 has some really nice buffs but youll basically be hard locked until you go back and work on 1-6 skills

[autumn salmon]

You should work on past content first rather than pushing

[hot holly]

Im used to playing faster games like comp Pokémon where the game is over in 15 seconds, so I dont have the patience for this

[rotund kite]

Imo 1-5 you should always push, 6 is up to you, then 7 you dont have a choice but to work on prev stuff 😄

[drifting oak]

The issue is that the early maps take way less time than the later maps, so I'm worried I'll start pushing and get stuck

[rotund kite]

Yep def not a high speed game by any metric

[hot holly]

But I wanna go

[crude plinth]

if you get stuck you can always pause and do other things

[rotund kite]

for sure, then you go back and work on where youre coming in short

[hot holly]

Do all the new shit

[rotund kite]

Pretty much impossible without doing "homework"

[hot holly]

Nah you just stand in a square

Waiting for spelunking to get done

[rotund kite]

I feel like you don't like this game at all hahaha, bro if youre so disinterested in it, why are you forcing yourself to play?

[hot holly]

I have nothing better to do

And doing something I hate is better then doing nothing at all

[rotund kite]

Play a comp game, you just said youre used to high speed gameplay

[hot holly]

Got too fast for me

I wasn't enjoying it either

[rotund kite]

Yeah I'm blown, I hope you find something you enjoy soon brother

[gray thicket]

[hot holly]

Talking to my therapist about it

I haven't been enjoying things. Ive been just playing them like a check list, and the giving up when its done

[pastel kayak]

Who needs one of the, fish for free?

[sullen parrot]

fish 🐟

[pastel kayak]

They will be shark bait soon @sullen parrot

[sullen parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-cry-tears-king-crown-gif-5302586

[pastel kayak]

So will your in game pets foo @sullen parrot

[hot holly]

You know what would really solve my problems? A free doot amd golem

[crude plinth]

You have tons of meals at only 1 ladle cost to level up, that would boost your account stats in multiple ways

[hot holly]

Maximg out all my cooking bonuses first so I can do them all in one big batch

[crude plinth]

I see

[hot holly]

Cause thats what I did to get them all to level 90

[crude plinth]

well you're missing out on a lot for now while you wait then

[hot holly]

None of those are 1 Ladle away

[crude plinth]

each level gained also speeds up the rest of your meals

[crude plinth]

so toolbox is incorrect?

[hot holly]

Youre drastically over estimating how fast my cooking set up is

[crude plinth]

but toolbox says it's 1 ladle though, so it doesn't matter how fast you think it is, the numbers are numbers

[hot holly]

I can guarantee its not cause ive had this conversation before

[dire oracle]

how do you level this?

[carmine hearth]

That's a sailing resource, I believe

[dire oracle]

ahh ok, saw IT saying you level it by using the strung jewels bought in W4 shops but that doesn't make any sense

gotta push that next sailing island then I guess

[terse stone]

is there somewhere that tells me which map the fish r on for coral reef?

[crude plinth]

the name display on IT is bugged, wiki has the correct info

[terse stone]

i have 3 so far

[crude plinth]

last one is on Coralcave Outskirts

[night lodge]

Not even close 😔

[terse stone]

i dont think i have that unlocked

[crude plinth]

You forgot 1 green potion, and only use red potion once

The red potion is semi bugged, it doesn't give you more POW when you use it multiple times

[shell sluice]

Need 20qqq minimum I’d say

[night lodge]

I used em at the end to try buffing my pow but nope.. I need more gains

[crude plinth]

Yeah it only works on single use for 100x, and bring the green potion for 5x too

it didn't actually give you 1300x POW

[night lodge]

I wish I knew that before, thanks though

[frank shore]

what should i be lvlin

[night lodge]

What's the potion setup for bosses?

[final thistle]

Is anyone else able to get the Cogtimizer to work? Been trying for days since I unlocked jewel cogs but I can't get it load the JSON for a solution

[night lodge]

Thankyou ^^

[hoary root]

Does shrine charge rate stack?

Also what's a good way to farm gold food

[open hedge]

there's a max of 6 trimmed construction slots right?

[simple wadi]

Btw only use the red heart potion once. It's currently busted and only gives the POW bonus one time, but will increase your stamina costs as many times as you use the potion.

[sullen parrot]

whats your drop rate?

[nocturne patrol]

give me big nugget please uwu

[final thistle]

bored beans don't drop hot dogs tho? I thought only gigafrogs drop em

[sullen parrot]

youre right, i need to get the updated picture lol

[hot holly]

How are people getting like 500 dr?

[nocturne patrol]

lot of multi dr

[hot holly]

Ive dumped everything i can and still only at 62

[simple wadi]

[autumn salmon]

You have to work on most source

[sullen parrot]

this is nuts as a f2p

[nocturne patrol]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pepe-84

[hot holly]

Que?

[simple wadi]

I still need to farm up 1m golden cakes.

[autumn salmon]

I got 2600 on town

[nocturne patrol]

how much dr give 100K golden cakes ?

[coral dove]

and the wode boards also drop hot dogs, i believe

[hot holly]

Im genuinely wondering. What's the secret to get more dr

Who do I have to kill?

[final thistle]

actually yeah, looks like they have a better drop chance too

[hoary root]

10

[sullen parrot]

1500 should be enough to get all those pearls and ghosts no?

[simple wadi]

Probably, but it'll be a lot of candy.

[sullen parrot]

unfortunately not good enough to start farming these yet, they will take a very long time

[frank shore]

should i kill minibosses during speedrun on VW?

[hoary root]

How much do I need

I'm basically out of ways to get Dr atm

[dire oracle]

is there still a reason to equip star signs after unlocking infinite ones?

[simple wadi]

Generally not recommended to do onyx farm / gold food farm until at least 25x DR

Then 100k gold food farm at ~100x DR. Then Zenith and 1m gold food farm at 250-500x DR.

[frank shore]

no way am i making it to last map of w6 on speedrun xd

these w6 maps starting to take a long time lol

[storm ember]

3wtf is this

[nocturne patrol]

wow that much

when we gonna be able to put a specific number of thing to craft uwu

[hoary root]

What are big sources of dr

[sullen parrot]

is this the only thing that increases it? looking to maximize my afk monument gain

[crude plinth]

that increases the gem stone only, afk monument gain has other sources like endless summoning

[sullen parrot]

yes i have minecraft gem stone that gives monument afk so im looking for sources to increase it 🤔

doesnt seem worth to use a talent point at that just for this tho

[crude plinth]

yeah besides this you'd just have to enchant it

it can go up to 5 points too with research

so pretty big gains I guess? up to double the current %

[nocturne patrol]

lot of sources

sorry for flood xd

[frank shore]

should i only use w7 stones on this? only get 6 a day lmao

[nocturne patrol]

ofc

since they dont use a slot if they fail too

and u gonna get better %

[frank shore]

yeah... just gonna take weeks upon weeks to get all my sets with that stone lol

also should i candy on DB or DK for ghosts and pearler shells ?

[crude plinth]

once you upgrade your vendor stamp you can buy more than 6 per day

hopefully you get a stamp hit on it

[frank shore]

my stamp is ruff bro

[crude plinth]

only if you have enough DR, otherwise not really worth

[crude plinth]

that's not too bad, just need one of the daily stamp levels to proc

wow you even exalted it

how are you only getting 6 buys a day with +34.8% shop quantity 🤔

maybe that one is tied to levels hmm

[frank shore]

yeah 6 is ruff

[crude plinth]

the drop rate is okay to candy some but only for whatever amount you need, not too efficient to use up most of your candy until higher DR

[valid steeple]

witht he 13 plots of land, do I keep going till I've maxed that?

[crude plinth]

yes the more the better

[bleak gazelle]

yes, but probably want to work on rest of day market for now

[frank shore]

i've got candy chillin

[bleak gazelle]

make sure you spend some time on AC for both maps

[frank shore]

yeah i haven't sent AC anywhere

that's what i need to active

just working on lvl 900s.... just kinda going slow lol

i need to active in AC form with crystal right ace?

[bleak gazelle]

you'll want both afk and DR for them since the goal is to just candy them

[frank shore]

how many hours do you think is worth putting in there?

like surely doing 100hrs a map is less efficient than just candying it

[bleak gazelle]

no clue, you also don't have that much candy for how many cakes you'll eventually want, so any time is good
here's a chart for how many kills you need
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Arcane_Cultist#Leveling_Up_Arcane_Crystal's_Bonus

especially considering you'll probably need to spend candy on fractal eventually
better to increase the rates you can get on places you can improve

[frank shore]

yeah i'm pretty sure i used like a single 1hr candy there and got the first trophy

thought it was rare but maybe not

[bleak gazelle]

the nothing trophy?

[frank shore]

yeah

the grey Z one or whatever

[bleak gazelle]

there are endgamers who would probably stab you for only taking 1hr for it

[crude plinth]

that's insaneeeeee luck

it's supposed to be 1 in 100,000...

[frank shore]

yeah i got it before i accidentally afk'd on my db for like 40 hours

yeah i see that now

this one right

[crude plinth]

no that's the VMan nametag

[frank shore]

o

[crude plinth]

the trophy is afk zzz shape

[bleak gazelle]

[frank shore]

my idleontoolbox says i have it somewhere

[crude plinth]

is it in your trophy section of gallery?

[frank shore]

or is that just chance

[bleak gazelle]

this is just saying you've unlocked that bonus

[frank shore]

ah ok i was like no clue how i got it lmao

[crude plinth]

it would be in your gallery already if you have it

[frank shore]

wait should i afk on the hotdog map too on my AC

i need millions of hot diddly dogs

[lament trench]

there's a 6 spirit lock after spearfish right?

[frank shore]

🙂

you guessed it bud

[lament trench]

looks like it’s time to backtrack

[frank shore]

anything else op after this lads

[lament trench]

you'll unlock AC jewel after 624 upgrades

[frank shore]

AC jewels ?

[echo crag]

lab

[frank shore]

holy

[echo crag]

cna check it for the full list of stuff you still ahve to unluck, but hteres quite a few powerfull one left

[frank shore]

zzzzzzzz

maybe i can make it to w6

is WP most important for AC staffs?

[echo crag]

like theres a bonus that increase the strength of the buff to prisma bubble, increase the bonuses from defeating emperor, make dr affect prisma bubble, cheaper summoning upgrade per endless victory

[frank shore]

sheesh....... guess those 300 crystals go down to 0 tonight

[echo crag]

at this point you might as well just save them for next mc merit

[lament trench]

i cleared w5 with these stats

[lament trench]

[frank shore]

what should i aim for on staff? WP and tach% ?

[lament trench]

do you have the tachy multi in tome epi?

[frank shore]

yeah

[echo crag]

i need to farm a better wand htan this to puwsh further into w6

[lament trench]

this is the staff i used to push

[frank shore]

my WP is only 45-48 from my staffs rn

[lament trench]

what mobs are u at rn

[frank shore]

lava spirits

[chilly heron]

my tenteyecle seems like only minus 2s per kill, arcanist form feature?

[frank shore]

biggole moles nows

[echo crag]

you are aware that you should only really use skull while pushing AC

[frank shore]

oh the only skill?

[echo crag]

yeah since its the only thing that dmg arcane mob

and at the point youre at you should have maxed tenta already

[echo crag]

so should be casting pretty instant

throwing canister as animation lock

[frank shore]

do i have to do the tremur worm map to unlock w6

[buoyant musk]

does this even work? i dont see my equinox bonuses going up in level..

[chilly heron]

some equinox upgrades, not all

[buoyant musk]

so we're supposed to figure out which? lol

could be worded better

[frank shore]

wait how do i get to w6 on my AC i already forgot

[buoyant musk]

or something i dunno

[frank shore]

nvm got it

[silver stratus]

Isn’t ac beating the world boss

[frank shore]

yup

yikers

this is just wild

like i'd have to use all my crystals just to unlock that

[echo crag]

this is where the merit boos comes into play

[frank shore]

do we know when it's coming next or just random

[echo crag]

did you also unlock and level the tachyon bubble ?

[echo crag]

it does a smol difference

[frank shore]

bro i just can't gather those feet like that man

[crude plinth]

it's everything except the first four and lab fuse

[frank shore]

getting to 100m gonna take a long time

[echo crag]

remember to disable lab vial doubler when getting close to it and use discount tags

[frank shore]

disable lab vial doubler

woop

oh it's not even that op it's like a flat 80%

[ripe yoke]

How did you guys get passed W2 Pincermins

Been stuck on that one for so long

[grand nest]

No more touching the well for me

Almost done with collectibles as well

[frank shore]

ok i made it as far as i can rn on my AC, gonna wait for merit boost to push into w6

[random lantern]

Can you actually hit snail level 50? and if so, what is the real chance?

[frank shore]

how far do you guys push these on each map

like is there an estimated kills/hr if you're one tapping hoes

[proven vector]

why is this number more than an order of magnitude higher than my other characters?

it's like 25mil for most of my other characters to clear, but here it's 250mil instead?

[frank shore]

it's 250m for all

[proven vector]

then there's clearly a bug, because the same map with roughly the same kill rate and entry time has my other character here:

[frank shore]

must've forgot you put him there then

[proven vector]

if I did I must have put him there 2 months ago before I even opened world 7

[frank shore]

yo FR how high should i go realistically? think just afk overnight in each map i need it in? my DR is only like 140 on my DK w/o this boost

[drowsy vine]

How does people get doot? is sold through petmart? what is its price?

[stoic copper]

really low I think you need like 13 layers(Its either on auto review or IT)

[stoic copper]

you get it from the legacy pets

[sullen parrot]

from weekly pet or using green gems

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/oceansjonas-bear-in-the-big-blue-house-sniffing-smelling-gif-9077831805310939164

its something

[prime compass]

damn, ive really been slacking

[frank shore]

this is so slowwwww

[iron cargo]

huh, did I bug the event? or has it been extended?

[bleak gazelle]

there's not much space in the box

?wiki Equinox shows the ones that get new levels

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Equinox shows the ones that get new levels

[unreal linden]

Any good farming guides

[bleak gazelle]

Farming TL;DR
Farming is mostly just a lot of resetting.

• Always have 1-2 plots pushing new crops
• Cycle through crops to activate OG bonuses if available
• Cycle through crops to push day and exotic market (if unlocked)
• Once it gets too slow for you, setup to reset and bean trade
• Prep enough OG stacks of your furthest crop(s) to try and get 200/1k+ crops when you claim them after turning in (if your speed is fast enough, follow this guide from Trialpears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpTuYgeFQag)
• Night market priority - Super > Value (till you can cap at 10k/exotic cap) > Evo/Speed/OG

-# Lot of info in #1277368276095336558, slightly outdated, but mostly because it doesn't account for DB talents which should speed things up

[silk idol]

why is this guy still here? mocking me? making fun of me unable to purchase anything?

[prime compass]

for people who arent as broke as you

[bleak gazelle]

#patch-notes📝 he sticks around now

[prime compass]

finally a new nugget mult. 336k to 2.4 million

[strong shuttle]

last upgrades in sight :D

[silk idol]

i should really do my DB

[strong shuttle]

i am not even getting so much

i dont have millions multiplier on bones

[hushed mica]

What can I change to push mastery 1 sneaking? This is 90-99% caught on just floor 4

[iron cargo]

is the valentines event still active?

[hushed mica]

Shop is available still, but not the game

[iron cargo]

cuz the date passed, w1 still has the decoration and the minigame

and is counting down my free plays from active timer

[stoic copper]

I would put like the last 5 characters on double lotus

[hushed mica]

Ok just have 5 guys leveling and 5 guys tanking?

[stoic copper]

Yah i think i had that until mastery 3 should be a lot easier if you unlock w7, otherwise you can slowly drop to like 2 characters not on lotus and grind some gemstones. Thats what I had when hitting 7

[hushed mica]

ok ty

[iron cargo]

like, literally still playing the game

[hushed mica]

huh

[stoic copper]

It shouldn't be, have you just kept it open?

[strong shuttle]

is there more up to date list ?

[iron cargo]

was 5 plays away from getting the jackpot, so I just spent the 1200 gems for the 5 plays. 1200 gems for a new nametag isn't a bad deal.

[iron cargo]

yeah, I had to farm uptime plays.

[stoic copper]

Doesn't seem to be thats db right give me a sec

[frank shore]

if i can do first one all the way to end, but only 2nd one to like 30, which should i do

[dusk knoll]

is there are rank limit ? as it does not grow anymore ?

[strong shuttle]

no limit

[echo crag]

time to max it will start to decrease now

[stoic copper]

It does stay at 1 mil cap though for rank up

[strong shuttle]

just cant ever make more than 1m per batch

[dusk knoll]

yes but i dont get anything per cycle

[iron cargo]

gonna see how far this goes by camping on tremor worms. Maybe it'll let give me choco-heart boxes on a daily reset?

[stoic copper]

Auto refine turn it off

[strong shuttle]

weee thank you very much

[echo crag]

you do get something out of it, the time to get to 1m will get shorter and shorter the more rank you get

[iron cargo]

no limit on rank. but the power required for a new rank stops scaling at rank 20, so you actually rank up faster and faster from that point onward

[rustic siren]

Why does the full sneaking auto trash trash symbols as well 😢

[bleak gazelle]

There is a useful cap on ranks though, somewhere in the 8.2k/14k range (with/out panda pet) where salt production is capped

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, both of the sneaking ones are unfortunately useless

[prime compass]

not if you dont get symbols anyways 😎

i have it enabled, but i still get symbols 🤷‍♂️ idk if i get all of them, but definetly some

[echo crag]

i do get symbol with the new auto trash on

[rustic siren]

If it didnt trash symbols it would be fine.

[bleak gazelle]

well, it does. which is why we're talking about it

[rustic siren]

I havent gotten symbols since it came out cuz I've had it turned on

[stoic copper]

I think its just some, but not sure havent gotten any since like 3 weeks🤷‍♂️

[prime compass]

i just got one today, and then accidentally auto-used it, and upgraded some random slot

[strong shuttle]

damn not bad

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, idk if my rates are just atrocious, but i've only noticed symbol gain with it off, so...either bad rng or there's something else affecting it

[prime compass]

i really need to turn off the instant use one

[bleak gazelle]

and unfortunately i'd rather not test since i'm still sitting on t6 slots

[stoic copper]

I mean before we used to only get like half anyway so does it really change anything

[rustic siren]

Maybe it trashes below a certain% chance on highest slot?

[strong shuttle]

what was lava thinking when with autouse you use symbols as well i wonder

[little cloud]

what gear should you have when you first enter world 5

[echo crag]

i did get all 3 type of symbol today

[rustic siren]

Maybe a bonus coming that is affected by total slot levels

[strong shuttle]

ugh

[bleak gazelle]

anything, you can pretty easily push through w5 with copper

[little cloud]

ah ty

[stoic copper]

You should use Amarok till w6 though its easy plus still pretty good

[bleak gazelle]

-# note by easily i mean you'll need to have not completely abandoned the rest of your account

[strong shuttle]

unlimited power

[little cloud]

oh i thought i had to get troll armor since i got chizor armor right now

[rustic siren]

I second Amarok or higher if its your first W5 character.

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-animated-phenomenal-cosmic-powers-itty-bitty-living-space-genie-magic-lamp-gif-17360257

[prime compass]

limited power

[stoic copper]

you mean like this(w7 plus this is the first character )

[prime compass]

the only thing you really need to do, is remake your stuff when you get w6 stones, and you are gucci

[little cloud]

ah

[bleak gazelle]

you can still work towards troll, since you'll need it eventually, but no need to stop your progress to make it

[little cloud]

alr ty

[little cloud]

wdym by remake tho

[echo crag]

and nullo is generally the bottleneck for troll anyway

[bleak gazelle]

this was my alt account pushing through w5

this stupid trophy

[prime compass]

make a new set

[little cloud]

ah

[rustic siren]

The W6 stones provide a higher bonus when you use them, so you'll want to have fresh equipment to spend those on

[stoic copper]

Thats crazy neglecting, but feel you I have been playing for years and I have reached every map and still only have one set of prehistoric for everyone to share

Your bubbles plus statues hurt the most though, armor is meh at best usually anyway

[bleak gazelle]

share? nah, we ain't about that here. people just get what they get

that's also my alt account whom i only really touch during events now though

[rustic siren]

Sent my last character into W7 as a No Class Beginner with boxing gloves

[clever peak]

How many more pets are there since the last update

?

[stoic copper]

3 I think

[safe jackal]

is there a cap on growth speed

w

[strong shuttle]

damn it

[normal lagoon]

My Palette On speed is 0.7s

[strong shuttle]

so does that mean i am done with DB ?

[safe jackal]

i ment for crops

[normal lagoon]

You didn't buy the other two

[normal lagoon]

Oh farming? Still no.

[strong shuttle]

are they also empty ?D

[echo crag]

still got some upgrade to cap in grimoir

[stoic copper]

my last character is so unreasonably strong... I dont think its ever changing classes or equipment

[bleak gazelle]

do y'all just fucking click all day?

buncha degens

[frank shore]

should i redo my land ranks ?

[bleak gazelle]

eh, with that few points it probably doesn't matter, but more into evo might be useful
of course you're mostly limited by speed early on regardless of anything

[frank shore]

thought this wasn't really needed

[bleak gazelle]

it is until it isn't

the bulk of your evo still comes from evo gmo, but if you don't have many levels in it (or aren't able to stack 200 crops that quickly) then it helps

[open hedge]

so for some reason all my construction shrines just gained 100 max levels, any idea what I did to trigger that?

[bleak gazelle]

construct mastery

[frank shore]

i mean, i feel like i'm big chillin for evo rn, really need OG and speed i feel like

[open hedge]

I finally got all of them to 100, closed the gui and boom... 100 more levels to do

[stoic copper]

Most have another 100 if that helps

[open hedge]

300 in total?

[stoic copper]

As of now only up to clover but will eventually be all of them with enough updates

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/injective-ninjas-crypto-gif-27070487

[open hedge]

sometime I hate this game....

oh well 48b construction/h helps alot

[stoic copper]

Those aren't even bad the really pains are the towers... I have barely reached 200 on the easiest ones

[open hedge]

im at 54 for all but the last 2... im waiting to buy more carbon till I get them done...

[bleak gazelle]

and you get some extra bonuses with them

[strong shuttle]

more scam

[split meteor]

constr is getting insane, just did levels 159-200 in primordial shrine in under 10 minutes lol.... last month that would of taken weeks

[open hedge]

Yeah tiny cogs help i pulled 2 31x

[strong shuttle]

tell me about it

well, db is pretty much done, and i have 2k bones leftover for next expansion :D

wana increasse these before i close the chapter

[open hedge]

up to 1 min construction time on shrines... yesterday it was taking 22 hrs...

[strong shuttle]

got tiny cogs ? :D

[open hedge]

yep3 3 build and a flaggy

still need to get jeweled

[strong shuttle]

jeweled are nice, but take ages to replace standard board

[stoic copper]

Idk right now im sitting with 2 tier tens and still not making up for minehead.

[strong shuttle]

wut

[bleak gazelle]

imagine having higher than a t5

[strong shuttle]

you probably still have higher xp multi xD

[stoic copper]

Reached 1 mil exp

[strong shuttle]

jesus

[stoic copper]

Yah i think lava is feeling bad about never giving me jackpot or a good stamp

[strong shuttle]

i am still stocking my low tier cogs, in case we get a mechanic like ribbons for em :D

[stoic copper]

Plus I had like 12 attempts per day for last event and couldn't even get 5 of either nametag

[stoic copper]

Does that really matter? I just put a character on noob cogs and got like 35 instantly. Also what do you mean by ribbons for cogs?

[strong shuttle]

for tiny cogs, maybe one day you can combine them :D

[strong shuttle]

yaaa he gets it

[stoic copper]

That would be so nice, and actually seems reasonable

Also can you delete the small cogs haven't tried but just want to know if I should be extra careful

[strong shuttle]

too pricey to keep pushin

[stoic copper]

I think it reaches QQ

[strong shuttle]

posibly, this is with significan cheapener from research, ofc i dont have the daily upgrades from legends, i may get those

[bleak gazelle]

well, at least i get to replace a t2

[strong shuttle]

damn t4 :D

[bleak gazelle]

time to go fail my obs rolls now too

[strong shuttle]

i dont have build cog above t4

[bleak gazelle]

i have one

[strong shuttle]

i failed 10 of mine on 83 roll :D

[normal lagoon]

This shit elixir luck is unbelievable 5 out of 15 rolled the 20% like cmon

[strong shuttle]

oof, didnt expect this to jump up so quickly

[strong shuttle]

what elixirs you runnin

[normal lagoon]

4T1H(eart)

[strong shuttle]

in english

[normal lagoon]

Four Teal (Amber pots), One HeartRed (+POW, -STAM)

The fact I rolled 5 out of 15 of them on the Heart slot is insane though

Expected: ~20%
Reality: 33%

[open hedge]

yep, rn im just running a random selection of purple, didnt really care what they were XD

[open hedge]

I got 5 of both I think

[stoic copper]

Atleast I recently got the luckiest lad which kinda makes up for bad event rolls

I mean i had all characters going for it since w7 came out, it was bound to happen(now I get to go back to the hole grind )

[shadow lynx]

this was 5x like 3 days ago 😭

[stoic copper]

your crop value and evo is criminal

[shadow lynx]

lock in sonny

[echo crag]

[simple wadi]

Eww why is your crop value 10k?

Gross

[shadow lynx]

cheater 18k crop value smh

[echo crag]

already working on increaseing it when next rotation comes

[jagged silo]

[silk idol]

so what's actually crop value multi?

[sullen parrot]

speaking of farming how do i progress now? stuff been getting too expensive

[sullen parrot]

10k is base, can increase from exotic market

[silk idol]

make sure u OG a few times at the highest tier bean u possibly could before u exchange for magic bean

[sullen parrot]

that gives the most beans?

[silk idol]

yeaa so what is it anyway? 10k is what?

[sullen parrot]

ohhh not sure honestly

[bleak gazelle]

crop value multi
the value that a crop is worth

[jagged silo]

???how u r there

[silk idol]

im just curious everybody saying 10k multi crop 10k multi crop but what is it? is it the base crop? the crop value after it OG?

[stoic copper]

Um you want more land ranks, higher og chance, and make sure you have all crops(last few glassys and medals should push you to bil easily)

[silk idol]

12k crop multi is just straight up 20% more crop? or there's more math behind?

[sullen parrot]

i still have him as well

[bleak gazelle]

assuming all else is equal, yeah

[shadow lynx]

whats the strategy for unlocking medal crops, do i just leave a column permanently and instagrow whenver they are 100%

[silk idol]

u unlock in spelunking for medal crop but not sure which cave is it

[shadow lynx]

i have the seed i mean for getting all the crops

[simple wadi]

Yeah, you plant the seed, instagrow, harvest, instagrow, harvest, rinse and repeat

[echo crag]

get it to like og 1024-2048

depending how easy it is for you to reach that high on medals

[simple wadi]

I don't think Liquid is asking about the sticker.

[strong shuttle]

yay

[silk idol]

base on this math, the higher the crop tier, the higher the 1.08^ would be so just make sure you OG a few times, get in the billion or trillion crop amount before you do ur magic bean trade

[shadow lynx]

^0.5

[silk idol]

what if i dont see ticket at 1024-2048 OG for medal? remove crop and redo?

[echo crag]

yep rinse and repeat until sticker or low on insta

[silk idol]

and only do sticker on the first medal crop? or it doesnt matter which crop it is?

[simple wadi]

You don't have to remove the crop. Just harvest it.

[echo crag]

sticker doesnt matter which of hte see

[frank shore]

is there an easy way to get instas? just w7 gem shop ?

[silk idol]

do i need to lock the crop?or just harvest it?

[frank shore]

w6*

[silk idol]

ya, its a p2w item

[simple wadi]

I'm not sure why you think it has to be the first crop in the series, but it doesn't. Just harvest it.

[echo crag]

yeah gemshop is hte only way, makes me glad i bough em all way back

[silk idol]

cause i read w7 chat, some say just do it at the first crop for faster OG or something like that maybe its not applicable for medal crop cause all medal crops are 7 hour

[simple wadi]

Whoever said that needs to read more.

[silk idol]

well nvmmm i prefer info from w5 w6 chat,

[simple wadi]

Every crop in a seed's series has the same OG and grow rate.

[echo crag]

pretty sure OG chance is the same for the whole seed

[silk idol]

i can understand better here, when i go w7 chat the shit they spew is out of this world

it legit make u question ur approach to the game when u reach w7 chat

[pastel kayak]

Bad @strong shuttle mine

[jagged silo]

pretty sure my ac can get lvl1300 today

[sullen parrot]

i do not approach that scary area

[silk idol]

lemme bless u so u can unlock the final pallete which still does nothing

[jagged silo]

do this in w5 town

[sullen parrot]

man i havent gotten an ender in weeks now

[prime compass]

same

[jagged silo]

That's a myth

[keen sparrow]

Does anybody have an extra doot they could give to me? I’m pushing towards world 7 and have been playing for about a year

[silk idol]

lets mass report this to lava

[regal ivy]

same.... just been clicking logs non stop for almost 2 weeks nowXD

[silk idol]

what does log has gotta do with ender captain?

does it increase the chance for it to appear?

[keen sparrow]

Does that emoji response mean no?…

[simple wadi]

Go beg in #trade-discussion

[regal ivy]

nothing really just really boredXD

[silk idol]

fyi, doot is an expensive pet

[keen sparrow]

Ah

[silk idol]

i dono who is benevolent enough to give one for free but most likely u gotta trade for it

[prime compass]

begging for doot is probably more likely to decrease your odds of getting a doot

[sullen parrot]

if i get doot i give to dida 💯

[keen sparrow]

HAhahha hi doot have

[silk idol]

SAME

[jagged silo]

[silk idol]

give dida so he can beat @crimson sorrel

[prime compass]

all i have to trade is jello-fish, koi, and biggole mole

🐳

i still need the chippy pet but i dont want to trade for it

[regal ivy]

that looks bit crowdedXD

[jagged silo]

buy it

[bleak gazelle]

[sullen parrot]

yeah the account bonus is good so might as well wait for the rotation

[silk idol]

this guy?

[bleak gazelle]

i guess it's not cloud so i should probably grab it...

[simple wadi]

If I ever win the lottery, all the regulars in here are getting Resident Evil Requiem because I'm not ruining my status as F2P to buy y'all Doots.

[prime compass]

oh thats right, it will probably come around again wont it?

[prime compass]

something like that

[jagged silo]

maybe he will give u

[prime compass]

no lyrad hates me 🙂

[silk idol]

WADAFAQQ

[signal herald]

is there a print guide, like based on what is a priority or like what u NEED to have and then the rest of the slots just misc slots for what you are grinding for

[jagged silo]

how didi u know

[prime compass]

i meant to 🙁 not 🙂

[grave kindle]

lol its ai

[prime compass]

using ai around here is a death sentence

[sullen parrot]

resident evil series too complex for me to get into

[jagged silo]

at least not cheat

[silk idol]

maybe he use cheat and he say its AI to cover his track

[sullen parrot]

[grave kindle]

take a close look at the font and how the trash looks

[bleak gazelle]

refinery mats and then w/e else you want
hourly clicking mats, stuff for vials

[grave kindle]

you can see its definity ai

[jagged silo]

but who need that much trash

[prime compass]

because lyrad replied with a picture of the pet i need

[silk idol]

hoarders like me

[prime compass]

only a cruel, mean, evil person would do that. a spiteful one, who hates your guts

[jagged silo]

I mean he always do that to me and hi give me a lot

[prime compass]

im not you

[jagged silo]

[silk idol]

[jagged silo]

yeah now become chinese

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/bingchilling-gif-10067072887923246131

[jagged silo]

[silk idol]

yeaa post a video showing u eat bat

[bleak gazelle]

ayy, only took 2.5 days

lol

[jagged silo]

lvl45 require

[silk idol]

wheres the knife emoji when u need one

[bleak gazelle]

yeah i've got it

[jagged silo]

next one is lvl48

[silk idol]

shit i dont have nitro or else imma spam u with all the knife and gun emojis

[jagged silo]

and I just lvl46

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i'll have that too by the time i fail a few days of rolls

[jagged silo]

nest lvl I gonna buy poly salt

[regal ivy]

wow how did you get the double magnify glass?

[bleak gazelle]

level 40 posty

[strong shuttle]

very nice, still missing a corner :D

[silk idol]

only 123k

[jagged silo]

also why u place like that

[silk idol]

cant go up anymore

[sullen parrot]

im at 10k bro

[jagged silo]

u lose some xp

[sullen parrot]

putting a point into l11 barely helps

i still fail alot lol

[echo crag]

in the research optimizer our trust we place

[jagged silo]

@bleak gazelle change to like this

u will get more xp

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[jagged silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884849474583806069/1449472470741553162/agy_deflate.gif

It's fine who need 200k xp

[bleak gazelle]

i'm just following optimizer atm

[strong shuttle]

off to bed, have a good night guys

[normal lagoon]

6 floors of trying to get a fucking rope, this game is trash and my night is ruined

[silk idol]

@jagged silo he became bing chiling

[simple wadi]

I went from 130k exp/h to 75k exp/h switching to your method

[rigid lance]

Is there a 5 star cardifier list somewhere? I assume it's just the useful boss cards

[normal lagoon]

I LOVE wasting an hour just to get fucked.

[bleak gazelle]

it's not a set and forget, gotta update it occasionally as various things level

https://corgan.github.io/idleon-research-optimizer/research-optimizer-v2.html

[jagged silo]

hope is under that damn pink block

[normal lagoon]

😭

[sullen parrot]

im noob at spelunking but u got more stamina no...?

[jagged silo]

u miss 5.5Q there

[normal lagoon]

Can't break the pink ones.

[sullen parrot]

ah gg

[normal lagoon]

Even with 100x POW, so I'm so glad I wasted more stam bringing that pot.

God that was an Overstim 16 run too

[jagged silo]

[bleak gazelle]

ok, sorry, i didn't even realize i had one kaleido up top by itself
thanks

[jagged silo]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[prime compass]

ive been bing chilling for awhile.i was trying to figure out the role meant, until i realised it meant "middle kingdom" or something

if you look at more of my roles, i am also a weeb

i also have the brazil role for some reason

[sullen parrot]

where yall get spelunking efficiency from for those later caves

[prime compass]

even though i hate people from brazil

[regal ivy]

how does this work?

[prime compass]

there i finally got rid of the brazil role

[crude plinth]

chapter 1 and 2 scrolls

[stoic copper]

Thats the neat part we dont(bubble and chapters are all we have )

[prime compass]

no wait its still there(now its gone)

[sullen parrot]

i still dont understand how much pages to read

like i can read 5 times a day

[stoic copper]

I mean it changes depending on how much you can get but stacks of 100-200k work well at the beginning, then moving up to 1 or 5 mil

[bleak gazelle]

paste data, optimize for level or time, follow instructions, make adjustments as necessary
-# it's not perfect, like my single kaleido being up top, so make sure you adjust

[crude plinth]

just take how many pages you generate per day then divide that by 5 for the easiest way

[sullen parrot]

bet

[stoic copper]

If you cant get that try small stacks you can just get daily like 1-2k won't give you a lot but should help progress slightly

[stoic copper]

There are certain breakpoint for levels so its not always worth it

[chrome kernel]

are spelunking map exits in the same location for each floor?

[sullen parrot]

yes i dont understand the breakpoint thing

i have that picture one sec

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, if you want to be more accurate, use the breakpoints on the first pic to determine the minimum amount to be able to roll a certain bonus, the find the a value that's above that minimum amount on the second pic and use stacks of those numbers

[crude plinth]

it's random

[normal lagoon]

Sorry I'm having an off day; just to make sure I understand, is the level you get the "16-17" column? What is then all the %s after it?

The chance to proc each effect?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, and % columns seem to match up with the possible % to roll a 1-3 bonus

[half laurel]

do the onyx statue guy quests share between characters once its completed on one character

[sullen parrot]

is it worth to do these vault "grind"

[half laurel]

or do I need to hold 17 statues in storage and make it to that area on every character

[bleak gazelle]

number goes up

[normal lagoon]

Not shared; you only have to do it on one for the onyx tools, but the Kachow Statues are nice.

(Make sure NOT to toss extra Onyx Tools in W1 after doing the Zenith quest btw)

[prime compass]

idk. is it?

its pow 10, so somewhere around 10 trillion is basically the cap

[sullen parrot]

but does it work

99% of the pow 10 doesnt work properly in this game

[prime compass]

🤷‍♂️ all i know is that my number is 302 higher than your number, for my extra pow 10

[sullen parrot]

🔥

[autumn salmon]

it doesnt affect much

[weak dagger]

is there any map thats better than other to farm tempest stones

[prime compass]

it affects your base damage, which is what its supposed to affect

[autumn salmon]

It just gives amount

[prime compass]

an extra pow 10 gave me a whole .4 blue damage

[sullen parrot]

huge...

[autumn salmon]

power statue gives better

[bleak gazelle]

number goes up

[normal lagoon]

500 good lord

At what point do you push for 500? I'm like all 400s trying to get 3x Zenith statutes (from the market)

[quick girder]

cookin

[autumn salmon]

Im at 2.4 working to get 300% first

[bleak gazelle]

here are mine, i'm at 410% zenith iirc guess i should go back and farm other things, but i like the blue of w3

[normal lagoon]

If you mean double cluster I already have 305

[bleak gazelle]

oh right, statue effect is a thing

[normal lagoon]

Cons you should level a bit

[bleak gazelle]

only 2.84x

[quick girder]

ah almsot 2000\

[bleak gazelle]

pump that timer to 180 at least

[quick girder]

ew. i hate having to do this for a long time

[scenic magnet]

Finally got a good tiny cog

[dry path]

is there any way to get kattlekruk to drop the cape easier?

like any way to boost the odds of it being dropped?

[quick girder]

tickle his balls

[simple wadi]

Raise your drop rate

[chrome kernel]

how do you use cosmic balls on a maxed arcade bonus?

[quick girder]

as soon as you max one youll know

[chrome kernel]

recently done this with 47 drop rate takes roughly 2000-3000 keys for a drop

[chrome kernel]

well i maxed one and i dont see an option to click anywhere

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle which ones to level more?

[faint wigeon]

it's same button as normally upgrading with gold balls. so if you spam click chances are you doubled it already
OR you don't have 5 blue bawls because you need 5 to double a bonus

[regal ivy]

dragon statue?

[chrome kernel]

oh yeah maybe i spam clicked it then. its the prisma bubbles thing its 10%

[pastel kayak]

I got gold balls type of thing leveling what are they? @faint wigeon on main

[faint wigeon]

it do be doubled then.

[pastel kayak]

Not have any in the hole right now

[narrow ermine]

maybe do 400 on each besides kachow then farm clusters instead

[pastel kayak]

Main is afk in world 7 leveling

[chrome kernel]

recently done this with 47 drop rate takes roughly 2000-3000 keys for a drop

[narrow ermine]

definitely dragon statues then if you don't have plans on your other chars

[pastel kayak]

They are leveling in the caves in world 7

[narrow ermine]

are you early world 7? pre total lvl 300 spelunking?

[pastel kayak]

Nope have all the levels on done on my main

[narrow ermine]

have you unlocked the 5 extra bubbles for kruk? (via zenith market)?

[bleak gazelle]

dragon
and feasty

[pastel kayak]

Yes and I have all pets

[bleak gazelle]

it's just a new visual to show you got talent points to spend

[narrow ermine]

you should really just put all your other chars to zenith dragon statue

then go back to spelunking or whatever they were doing

then you can go either farm out your beanstalk golden food/ make golden cakes or farm at rams for eternity with your DK

[pastel kayak]

They are doing spelunking cause they need to level in it

[narrow ermine]

what level spelunking are your guys?

[pastel kayak]

58-63

Main is level 25 in it

[narrow ermine]

if you push your other guys to pirate underling, that spelunking cave gives crazy exp

[pastel kayak]

Think have unlocked that on alts

[narrow ermine]

should be like lvl 100+ spelunking in a day

[normal lagoon]

🐉

"But what about---"
🐉

[narrow ermine]

anyone know the best elixir setup for max depth?

[normal lagoon]

God I... I should go to bed.
I read xlmpreza's name as "Simpress" (like Empress but for simping)

[narrow ermine]

i simp for you

[pastel kayak]

Bad @normal lagoon go to bed now

[normal lagoon]

I want to say this or replacing the Heart w/ another Purple

[faint wigeon]

just do amber and GD run instead of focusing depth

but I'd say yeah basically the 'slayer' setup in the guide

[normal lagoon]

If you have excess stamina, Heart can be better to reach further.
If it's an earlier delve, Stamina is way more important, so 2x Purple is better

[narrow ermine]

isnt gd and max depth almost the same

[normal lagoon]

Pretty much

But GD (the elixir) lowers POW and increases Stam costs.

Both of which are horrible for a "max depth only" build

[narrow ermine]

i still need to get my bubbles to boron clicking range so i'm avoiding the GD elixir

[faint wigeon]

ah yeah I guess you're still early on

[quick girder]

I JUST WANT MORE FILTER SPACE!

[jagged silo]

soon...

[faint wigeon]

holy

you gaming mister chinese friend

[jagged silo]

I put 6 char at kelp hole

[teal oxide]

dudusm

[faint wigeon]

hmm maybe I should spelunk again and afk my char at them caves for pages

[faint wigeon]

brasketcho 👋

[quick girder]

anyone know if this movie is good?

[teal oxide]

henlo

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[normal lagoon]

Video Game-based Movies? That's already quite a steep hill to climb

[jagged silo]

I'm for lvls

[simple pilot]

Hi, i got trapped by the dootjat eye, though i had to go on 3 different character (mage archer war) but i wasted 2 for nothing
somebody to come to do 1st doot with me? ><
to not waste one more xDD
I'm in lava 5

[jagged silo]

this dude just +69lvls

[teal oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[faint wigeon]

[quick girder]

bro what

[faint wigeon]

fuck the game

[jagged silo]

look so whale

[teal oxide]

nooooooo

[quick girder]

RIP

[jagged silo]

exotic

[normal lagoon]

The duality in the images is so funny

[faint wigeon]

damn clown planting one bazillion bomb in my board

[normal lagoon]

screaming
I want it so baaaaad

It's so close to 3x

[narrow ermine]

god damn

[jagged silo]

this is stupid

[narrow ermine]

whats your double cluster chance at if true zen is that high 👀👀

[normal lagoon]

305%

[jagged silo]

nice extra 5%

[prime compass]

if its at 305%, does that mean you get 6 and a 5% chance for 8 🤔

[normal lagoon]

I'm also over 100% "Double" Statue Chance, so every time Statues drop, I'm guaranteed 14 (don't know if it goes over)

[normal lagoon]

305% would mean guaranteed 4, 5% chance for 5

[jagged silo]

nuh 4 and 5% 5

[prime compass]

oh i see, its +1 per 100%, not +2

[jagged silo]

if that's happened everyone gonna be lvl49 snail

[quick girder]

3 6's in a row

scazry

[jagged silo]

wut's ur speed on gaming

I think u gonna faster than me cause lase soelunking boss

[normal lagoon]

0.7s Palette On

[narrow ermine]

wtff i want that

[quick girder]

why these so hard to find?

[normal lagoon]

What's stopping you?

[narrow ermine]

probably hole, farming, nugget, pong (skill diff)

[normal lagoon]

(Spelunking too probably)

[normal lagoon]

It's not Poing.

[narrow ermine]

spelunking helps?

[normal lagoon]

Boss 9 does

(That's a separate 1.5x mult from the up to 2.25x mult of Picasso Gaming)

[narrow ermine]

😶

[normal lagoon]

Cuz I had like ~33% Double Statue chance from the color previously, and now it's over 50% after beating that boss

[narrow ermine]

theres probably only a set amount of possible exalt stamps currently and you've gotten a bunch from other sources so thats why your % chance from spelunking is super low

[normal lagoon]

My Speed was like ~1.8s previously too

[pastel kayak]

@jagged silo

[crimson sorrel]

[narrow ermine]

now that auto mode spelunking isnt that bad

[normal lagoon]

(it's still bad)

[narrow ermine]

we need auto summoning now

its good enough for me~

[faint wigeon]

Rules forbid me to talk about it but uhh yeah

[narrow ermine]

but if its an amber run, i'll do it manually

[normal lagoon]

Is the alt-tab trick forboden?

I thought that was just a quirk that he was okay with

[crimson sorrel]

[narrow ermine]

auto infinite summoning *

[normal lagoon]

It's an exploit that may as well be a feature at this point

[faint wigeon]

hmm maybe not. never sure
but I reckon like the 'hold A/D' and alt tab was? maybe don't exactly remember

[normal lagoon]

1. Hold down mouse click.
2. Alt Tab to a window that will overlap your IO screen.
3. Let go of mouse click. You can now go back to IO, just don't click.

[narrow ermine]

i spent like 2 hours doing infinite summoning and only got like 40? waves

[faint wigeon]

Maybe I'm just too much schizo and seeing things in things

[hexed galleon]

Boo

[jagged silo]

deposit ur kachow

[faint wigeon]

You telling me how to do it?

[normal lagoon]

Listen, you were talking about Hold A/D, and I was also trying to tell other people who don't know about it.