lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[void shell]

sometimes it's better to not equip

[sonic vortex]

[tiny atlas]

like when

[faint wigeon]

isn't it like somewhat bad for skilling and alright for combat?

[void shell]

just some combat yeah

[frosty cipher]

@tiny atlas@faint wigeon hii 👋

[tiny atlas]

the combat ones are mostly all -defence -accuracy which are irrelevant by the time u get the duperbit

[faint wigeon]

elo

[faint wigeon]

[tiny atlas]

u probably get more from equipping balance of pain when u have multikill than equipping nothing and getting a 2/5 of both

[frosty cipher]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/998827975745228821/1147813370658037860/BFC09991-F147-4E81-A3C0-A8BB54B0A6DB.gif

[sonic vortex]

[frosty cipher]

we need this bnuuy added to the game (very important lore character fr fr!!)

[faint wigeon]

w3 trapping has bunny

[frosty cipher]

[tiny atlas]

but does it have a pancake on its head?

[faint wigeon]

KURU KURU

[sonic vortex]

[faint wigeon]

kururing

[rose tendon]

How come i dont get archievement for pullaging thé emperor im at showdown xx

[tiny atlas]

u have to claim for it to count for the next one

but if u beat 21 it will count aswell

[rose tendon]

How you Mean?

How do i claim?

[tiny atlas]

like claim the task

[rose tendon]

I cant that's thé problem

[frosty cipher]

If you're AT

See the issue?

[faint wigeon]

what happen if you do emp again?

[rose tendon]

Nothing

[faint wigeon]

welp emp reset time

[tiny atlas]

it should though

[frosty cipher]

Try defeating Showdown 10

See if that helps, I suspect that's the issue

[rose tendon]

Reset agian pff i came from showdown 70...

[faint wigeon]

oh yikes

I mean do you really need the merit from it? you could always get merit point from others

[frosty cipher]

He's missing out on it, so

I'd be complaining too.

[faint wigeon]

Just do other merit task 🤷‍♂️

[frosty cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103133849547976894/1294372089557553222/attachment.gif

[hardy rivet]

hi does anyone know where to unlock 1m golden food?

at beanstalk

[faint wigeon]

at piss plastic trash bad npc (sad urie)
-# litterfish map in w7

[velvet coral]

what cooldown should wait for i for to do palette without kitsune?

[rose tendon]

I need to unlock thé armor set... 🙁

[warped pelican]

I was bored so I gave it a go and yay

[rose tendon]

Yea missing 2 armor pieces

[umbral tide]

Is there some sort of trick to beating these damn crab stages? Sitting at right under 5000T Damage and 15Q HP

[iron mesa]

Balls?

[hardy rivet]

thank you

[oblique heron]

balz

[warped pelican]

How's your library so high??

[umbral tide]

I’am in the end-end game haha

Though still working towards getting my max talents to 700, currently 667 :/

[warped pelican]

Is the multiplier from endless summoning though?

[frosty cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343435665513254975/1463181207545057427/grumbloo.gif

huge ass grumblo peeking jumpscare

[bleak gazelle]

merit, pristine, artifact, technically two achievements, they might actually give a level now that we're in the 60s

[oblique heron]

Just crafted 100k golden peanuts

[crimson sorrel]

Now craft 5m more

[oblique heron]

Why

[crimson sorrel]

1 m for stalk and 4m for chr

[tiny atlas]

@crimson sorrel so closeee

[crimson sorrel]

On rams or town

[tiny atlas]

rams 1.154

but 1.4m cakes

i need more gfood effect

[crimson sorrel]

I dont Even have 1.1 on rams

[warped pelican]

Ohhhh, I didnt realize they all stacked on summing talents.

Yes summing..

[rancid elm]

Yo guys I want to know should I buy the auto in gem shop for the splunking or I should save the gems

[crimson sorrel]

Nah don't need that

[tiny atlas]

theres so much winner bonus and they multiply very weirdly, ends up being 68.8 max for now

the one that isnt limited too much is the equinox max lvls which get you additional talents

[rancid elm]

I was thinking cuz I am finding myself struggling to get amber and pow currently sitting t 14x amber and 18k pow any tips

[tiny atlas]

it took about 14 hours with my ac, very bad

[tiny atlas]

early on its mostly feeding into itself

[crimson sorrel]

It's just going to progress faster but u can do it without that too

[tiny atlas]

keep doing ur spelunking and you will progress

[crimson sorrel]

Just read daily pages and push depths and do Amber runs

[tiny atlas]

only starts to slow down at last 2 caves and youll need some out of spelunking bonuses

[rancid elm]

Ngl if lava put a gem shop upgrade for faster stamina i am gonna buy it instantly

[warped pelican]

I should probably do equinox more..

[crimson sorrel]

We don't talk about last cave

[tiny atlas]

apparently people are going this high

so far

[tiny atlas]

one day

i got this earlier

[crimson sorrel]

W7p2 or p3 when more cave will add with a new purple amber

[rancid elm]

I wana know how much equinox fill rate do they have to spend 70 upgrades

[crimson sorrel]

300k

[tiny atlas]

its actually not too bad, ive neglected mine and i have 7k rate,with bar taking 44k

scaling is only bad if u waste ur upgrades

[rancid elm]

I am sitting here at 3k looks like I got to push my equinox but that fk w2 dungeon is making me rage

[rancid elm]

Yah for that reason I have only spend my points on I portant upgrades only

[warped pelican]

Same, I've tried w2 solo and its very rng.

[crimson sorrel]

I got symbol to 48 now the bar costing like 80k something and my full rate is only 5k

[tiny atlas]

i didnt put too many points in damage

but i need some nugget now that i got 48 too

[crimson sorrel]

21

[rancid elm]

I have put 2 should I put more ?

[warped pelican]

I got metal detector to 10% and tower damage to 5%
Yeah ik it'll hurt later but eh.

[rancid elm]

Tbh those to are worth it

[tiny atlas]

tower to 10 and metal to 15-20 is what i usually see youre good

[tiny atlas]

i have like 5 in

[crimson sorrel]

Tower to 15 and metal to 20

[tiny atlas]

lowk stop there

[warped pelican]

I don't see a reason to push metal further 10% per failure is huge.

[rancid elm]

I was wondering if I should put any point in it since in this game we have the bonus for dmg the most

[crimson sorrel]

I am just puting points in dr now

[tiny atlas]

this in w7 makes it really strong

[warped pelican]

Got that ❤️

My rolls are slowly rising everyday, bit by bit

[rancid elm]

@tiny atlas yo bro I want to know what's the strat to push endless summoning

I am stuck at 130

[warped pelican]

What does your upgrade sheet look like?

[crimson sorrel]

Unlock teal

[warped pelican]

What spelunking level is teal normally unlocked at?

[lilac anvil]

huh, since when

[crimson sorrel]

Green stack it

[autumn salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-minions-excited-gah-icanteven-gif-6365913475850204839

[tiny atlas]

dont ask me im hardstuck
only got one inf wave done in 2 weeks

[crimson sorrel]

I am stuck at 305

[tiny atlas]

im still 310

ill stay on essence build for a while

[autumn salmon]

Im 260

I have 500t atk

[tiny atlas]

thats more than enough for 300 atleast

are u using good doublers and seeing red properly?

[autumn salmon]

Double all atk

[tiny atlas]

double both spikes and mana regen too?

and damage when 10x the cost

and seeing red

[autumn salmon]

Judt spike and some mana regen

[tiny atlas]

should be enough for 300 and youre neglecting probably

[warped pelican]

Very far behind you guys

[autumn salmon]

yeah i think

[tiny atlas]

getting teal from spelunking will pretty much double that

[warped pelican]

Yeah.... I just unlocked elixers, so far away from teal.

[tiny atlas]

only took me about a week of occasionally doing my spelunking

[warped pelican]

I'm going to make 100k golden cakes before pushing spelunking.

[frosty cipher]

augughuitrg

[autumn salmon]

Burn candies

[warped pelican]

I wish I could, but my accounts barely 2minths old.

[tiny atlas]

i love equinox timegates theyre so funny

[tiny atlas]

really good progress for 2 months

[crimson sorrel]

I also have 500t dmg

[warped pelican]

Thanks ^^

[autumn salmon]

Wow

[crimson sorrel]

After 260 it's all about red slimes

[autumn salmon]

Ah nice info

[warped pelican]

Curious

Is this good or bad?

[autumn salmon]

Ive been working on zenith market atm

[tiny atlas]

nooo never double hp, just double all damage then all essence for now

and keep yellow spikes

[vivid cipher]

Refund the doublers, hp is useless

[autumn salmon]

Some ppl just using all essence doublers while gathering and switch back to all atk when it feels enough

[warped pelican]

I'll refund tmrw at reset then, and hopefully much better dmg.

[vivid cipher]

Damn it's late, yeah looks good just take any of them out of hp

I'd say double all mana regen -> seeing red -> spikes -> atk

When you unlock teal, double hundredaire

Will make pushing boss stones more doable

[frosty cipher]

PropsToTeacup (slot 7) is the first character to reach 100T damage

[warped pelican]

Idk how to push spelunking tbh.. I got elixers now, well 1 but still feels very slow.

[north peak]

Keep doing the same thing

The most important thing, I find, when pushing spelunking, is consistency

Keep doing it and it'll improve

[crimson sorrel]

Use speed potions it will be more Higher

[north peak]

Expect to say on blushpit for a looooong time tho

[shadow lynx]

is there a use for the loot from the last sailing island

[north peak]

The new one? I don't believe so

[autumn salmon]

Teal 10

[jagged silo]

best one

[shadow lynx]

damn ive been sending my boat 1 there for just the 0.03% artifact chance then ig 😭

does it show up in the trades for gold bars

[jagged silo]

at least not 0.01%

[crimson sorrel]

I got all artifact from there with .04 chance

[jagged silo]

u may need some

[shadow lynx]

some

[jagged silo]

cool

[shadow lynx]

kinda stuck here

[valid finch]

[crimson sorrel]

Wtf you do u getting .03 chance with this

[shadow lynx]

for unlocking the artifact lmao

[crimson sorrel]

Oh i see

[north peak]

That's just the min

[jagged silo]

I know

[warped pelican]

I'm stuck here.

[forest chasm]

Wait till your overflow is around lvl 10 and then do it. And try to increase stamina regen so you can do it more times in a day

I’m stuck there as well. But I only have like 40k pow

So don’t take my advice👍

[crimson sorrel]

@jagged silo that's why reading is important

[jagged silo]

where is ur eff

[crimson sorrel]

I am on fighting preset

[pastel kayak]

@jagged silo

[void shell]

Hmm

[crimson sorrel]

Here ur eff sir i am not Even using gold food

Vman got more eff

[jagged silo]

I have 10k beanstack

[crimson sorrel]

I also have 10k

[cloud glade]

is your sample rate not at 90%

[void shell]

Wow

[crimson sorrel]

I am lazy to remove my sample

[jagged silo]

me too

we want to compare

[crimson sorrel]

It don't effect that much

[frosty cipher]

let's see

[cloud glade]

the xp loss is hurts alot in skills

[frosty cipher]

What should I invest in today, golden food or crystal spawn chance?

[crimson sorrel]

Good old days @jagged silo

[jagged silo]

???

[void shell]

Why crystallin not 300

[crimson sorrel]

Cost

[frosty cipher]

@jagged silo hi 👋

I think I'm gonna invest into crystallin

[jagged silo]

tomorrow idk if I can get?

8b

[crimson sorrel]

Can you store that much in inventory

[jagged silo]

I hope so

[frosty cipher]

erm

[jagged silo]

tomorrow

[frosty cipher]

spaghetti code?

[jagged silo]

hmm

[pastel kayak]

Most crops grow in 5 minutes for me now

@jagged silo

[crimson sorrel]

[jagged silo]

did u reset?

[crimson sorrel]

[jagged silo]

put in vmans inventory

my vman only have 2 slot now

[crimson sorrel]

Need to craft w7 bag

[jagged silo]

I don't even use w6 2nd one

wait

[crimson sorrel]

Pro

[jagged silo]

wtf

[crimson sorrel]

Pain

[jagged silo]

where

why I don't have

[crimson sorrel]

Wood mush

Pizza 1

[jagged silo]

I'm pizza 3

[jagged silo]

[jagged silo]

we can hit together

and I use vman so so quick

2nd one

[crimson sorrel]

Wtf

Pro

[crimson sorrel]

Now u can craft skilling rings

[north peak]

Can I has 1

I has 0

[crimson sorrel]

@jagged silo why depend on gamble when u can buy it from Shop

[mighty ingot]

is this rare, i got one randomly from some dice

[jagged silo]

idk I'm lazy to do dungeon

[crimson sorrel]

It's cheap

[jagged silo]

time to go for this

[jagged silo]

no

[crimson sorrel]

[crimson sorrel]

Yes , I don't have any other use for them

[jagged silo]

oh I buy one

[crimson sorrel]

Noob

[jagged silo]

huh

[crimson sorrel]

Why not doing dungeon

[jagged silo]

nuh

how I gonna do

[autumn salmon]

[crimson sorrel]

I did enough dungeon not doing then in any time soon

[crimson sorrel]

Leave party and do solo

[autumn salmon]

Make pt

[crimson sorrel]

What

[jagged silo]

nope

[autumn salmon]

And fill all

[jagged silo]

I hate solo

[autumn salmon]

For a boostv

[crimson sorrel]

Just join someone at hh

[crimson sorrel]

Do you have 9 darter

[autumn salmon]

Yes

[crimson sorrel]

Wanna join my cult

[autumn salmon]

[crimson sorrel]

We share luck by being in party

[autumn salmon]

Party? Guild?

[crimson sorrel]

Party

[crimson sorrel]

@autumn salmon this

[autumn salmon]

Bro im not doing hh

[crimson sorrel]

Don't worry

Do ur hh

[autumn salmon]

Wru

[crimson sorrel]

We don't do hh

Just share luck by being in party

[autumn salmon]

Kk

[crimson sorrel]

U can see this as a 9 darter cult

[autumn salmon]

Server?

[crimson sorrel]

Pecunia 17 w3

[autumn salmon]

Invite

[patent olive]

which upgrades are best to give them doublers?

[crimson sorrel]

Where are you I don't see

[autumn salmon]

W1 town

[crimson sorrel]

Are you 1 nood

[autumn salmon]

No

[crimson sorrel]

Welcome to cult

U r so pro

[autumn salmon]

Yes u pro :v

[tiny atlas]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message @crimson sorrel 🫃

[crimson sorrel]

Waiting for gallery update

[autumn salmon]

Theres no update

[crimson sorrel]

Where is my event

[tiny atlas]

event comes usually in about 9 hours from now in time for american timezones

but i doubt it will on time

[crimson sorrel]

Oh

[cloud glade]

no valentine items this year i guess

[tiny atlas]

wtf lava mentioned a construction overhaul

[crimson sorrel]

Upgrading cog slots

Like sneaking

[tiny atlas]

atleast will be faster build speed but i dont want to relearn ts

[crimson sorrel]

Going to need that qq flaggy rate now

[vivid cipher]

Construction updates let's go

[autumn salmon]

Imangine lv 4 to 5 its just 220%->250%

[vivid cipher]

I bet pt2 will have nice bonuses for spelunking

[crimson sorrel]

There will be more caves and number will go in e32

Imagine 10k stamina per chr

[autumn salmon]

isnt rn is the best time to lv spelunking

[crimson sorrel]

Yes

[wintry pollen]

Anyone know when you can play Idleon again on iOS

[crimson sorrel]

How much exp u getting in last cave

[crimson sorrel]

When ios become android

[wintry pollen]

Don’t know

I have like 3 iOS phones 😅

[crimson sorrel]

[autumn salmon]

Not sure i dont have much eff anf my spelunking statue arent that good

[wintry pollen]

The only android I had is dead

[crimson sorrel]

I am getting this my eff is low and have to use more gold food

[crimson sorrel]

Play on pc

[autumn salmon]

My spelunker just lv 30

[wintry pollen]

Nah bro smt you don’t wanna sit there

[autumn salmon]

Exept vman

[crimson sorrel]

Playing on phone is bad

[wintry pollen]

And why

[crimson sorrel]

Why ?

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-never-done-anything-like-this-before-breaking-bobby-bones-national-geographic-this-is-new-im-nervous-gif-22003237

[crimson sorrel]

This is like my everyday life on idleon

Each day new overflow

[autumn salmon]

Just a bit more i can zenith spelunky statue

[wintry pollen]

Still when will it be able to play on iOS

[umbral isle]

what stamp should i exalt, ive done multitool and crystallin

[prime compass]

material capacity

[pastel kayak]

Not in ages

[crimson sorrel]

Back to pain

[strong shuttle]

what did it cost ? everything :D

[pseudo olive]

I recently unlocked the goat god but have everyone linked to the bear god, do I need to unlink them before putting them back into the lab to get exp?

[strong shuttle]

goat only works when your characters are present in lba actually i believ

[pseudo olive]

Yeah, and I've linked to goat via the hole npc. But bear says they won't get exp

[strong shuttle]

how much xp can your AC get in lab ?

per h

[formal falcon]

Im w6 with 9k gems anyone got any suggestions

[strong shuttle]

give them to me for one

w6 summoning bonus multi

[formal falcon]

Ill give you a

[strong shuttle]

1x insta grow upgrade

[formal falcon]

Got both, should I be buying essences boosts or anything

[strong shuttle]

its comfort, not necessity

[formal falcon]

Gotcha

[warped pelican]

Bed time 😴

[strong shuttle]

i hate prisons

[oblique heron]

no gd sadge

[strong shuttle]

gib mail

[reef pier]

Oh you can get prisma bubbles there

[pastel kayak]

Bad @simple wadi alert

[simple wadi]

[reef pier]

I see, I'm still at the 5th, but I will get there🫡

[pastel kayak]

Bad @oblique heron who is now number 1 on trouble maker in server and game list

Bad @reef pier alert

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/sinners-cornbread-omar-miller-pay-up-give-me-my-money-gif-1307994856332302945

[pastel kayak]

Bad @strong shuttle is now number 2 on trouble maker in server and game list

[jagged silo]

50%

[strong shuttle]

i am so bad at being bad, i got second place 😭

[oblique heron]

what's good here

[jagged silo]

bean

[pastel kayak]

@oblique heron @strong shuttle

[jagged silo]

always bean

[oblique heron]

1 more for last column

[strong shuttle]

i have yet to unlock this :E

[pastel kayak]

They are maxed at 40

[jagged silo]

do ur db

[pastel kayak]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Deirdreamber @oblique heron

[pastel kayak]

That is on Div

[jagged silo]

u play this game just for div and pet?

[oblique heron]

do db's grimoire

[pastel kayak]

For now

[pastel kayak]

Not sure if can cause of the pain

[crimson sorrel]

What are you going for this look so cursed

[pastel kayak]

I do it my own way

[crimson sorrel]

Then why ask people to check ur toolbox

[pastel kayak]

Been cold here for a few days now @oblique heron that makes the pain very bad

[pastel kayak]

Not for farming

[crimson sorrel]

For anything

[strong shuttle]

cold in australia ? so instad of 60c you have 55?

[distant night]

in which part of australia is it cold

[crimson sorrel]

I need that 10min candy back

[pastel kayak]

Colder

[crimson sorrel]

54

[distant night]

its like consistently 30 degrees

[oblique heron]

dam

[pastel kayak]

52f yesteray here today was 55

[compact bear]

is there an ideal time to go for max plant evo in gaming? just wondered if its basically pointless to waste my 16 chem plants into it

[pastel kayak]

Nope

[oblique heron]

it's warmer for me lately

about 0 c

[crimson sorrel]

Do it after getting Insta gaming

[pastel kayak]

Last month of summer here then fall starts first of next month here

[compact bear]

insta gaming?

what is that?

[crimson sorrel]

When ur growth time is less then 1 sec

[sullen parrot]

hello 🐳

[crimson sorrel]

Yo

[compact bear]

ahh, mines at 17.4sec rn at lv 399 for sprout growth. Feels instant, but I am just spaming harvest all to fill my garden with chem plants

[crimson sorrel]

Don't go for max evo at this point of game just focus on nugget and snail then after getting instant gaming then u can do it in less then 10min

[compact bear]

sweet thanks finally got my equinox shovel, just waiting for bar to fill to level it and then I'll mad fat stack my nugget

[crimson sorrel]

That is not very useful if you don't have w7 legend talent

[compact bear]

sadly have like 5 portals and boss to finish left for w6 to get to w7

I honestly should just rush to w7 but I just have everything else going on to do with leveling lol

[crimson sorrel]

Give me craft all button

[sullen parrot]

i could use some help in sailing
its been like one week since i havent gotten ANYTHING
my chances are 0.01-0.04 for omnipotent.
and the w7 artifacts are taking several days to even get, and also just for the base artifact its also 0.01-0.04 chance

[sullen parrot]

let me talk with lava and see what we can do

[crimson sorrel]

Get more ender captain and unlock duper bit upgrade and do some justice

[oblique heron]

do you claim this after checking each character

[sullen parrot]

yes i have 100k golden hampetrs

or 10k? dont remember

[crimson sorrel]

Don't give more after 100%

[sullen parrot]

yes thats 10k hampters

[crimson sorrel]

Make it 1m so you can see big hampter

[oblique heron]

https://discordapp.com/channels/437797104786604034/438216759120756737/1472017584361705534 hopefully the flags from gemshop are not required

[crimson sorrel]

I have 2 of them

[oblique heron]

bruh

[crimson sorrel]

I thought it would be good at early game

[sullen parrot]

since the farmer pros are online, how do i distribute this again?
have 472 points

[oblique heron]

i jsut followed autoreview 🤷🏻‍♂️

and then og focus

[crimson sorrel]

Farming pro

[sullen parrot]

how do i get more than 11 levels for the last column upgrades

[crimson sorrel]

Legend talent

[oblique heron]

cc at crabs is smart

[crimson sorrel]

Cc at last map is awesome

[oblique heron]

i know that dice trophy and luckiest lad will drop

[jagged silo]

60%

[crimson sorrel]

Reach lv 40.snail first

[toxic ocean]

my droprate now dida

[sullen parrot]

idk i did it like this

if i messed up i have to wait 1 more week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[toxic ocean]

it's hard to mess it up but just follow autoreview early on

[oblique heron]

this is just sad

[crimson sorrel]

U are getting close to me

[oblique heron]

Hi @toxic ocean

[void shell]

Hmm

[oblique heron]

mmH

[crimson sorrel]

mHm

[oblique heron]

when do i go for all crops with medals

[crimson sorrel]

So sad

[crimson sorrel]

When u reach this without medals

[oblique heron]

where is this compared to me

[jagged silo]

[sullen parrot]

wtf

[oblique heron]

is this old

[heady saddle]

Anyone know how catch 3 hermit cans in a row if I also catch other fishes?

[oblique heron]

luck

[toxic ocean]

hi~

[heady saddle]

I did this quest too late bro wth

[crimson sorrel]

Yes before going for medles

[toxic ocean]

didn't you have the p2w clothes?

[crimson sorrel]

It's rng

[heady saddle]

nvm i did it

[crimson sorrel]

I am f2p

[toxic ocean]

free 2 pay?

[crimson sorrel]

Free 2 play

Do you have p2w clothes

[oblique heron]

whale

[crimson sorrel]

Why ask

[toxic ocean]

i thought u had them

but if ur droprate is like mine then you don't

[crimson sorrel]

Didn't i told you I am f2p so long ago

[toxic ocean]

i forgor

[crimson sorrel]

[sullen parrot]

do i even get anything from this

im not in demonflesh yet

[toxic ocean]

u do

[sullen parrot]

if the monument thing gets chosen this will be 43x?

[sullen parrot]

tuff

[oblique heron]

hmmmm

[umbral isle]

anyone have a list of what stamps to exalt

ive done crystallin and multitool so far

[oblique heron]

mason jar

[warped pelican]

Nuuuu, Owl and Roo are OP

[crimson sorrel]

2 more.slot.left

[toxic ocean]

i get more bonuses from the monuments than owl or roo though

[oblique heron]

cuz they are buns

[warped pelican]

But.. drop rate

[molten oriole]

does divinity lvls affect divinity points gaine? like is there a diff in 300 vs 350

[oblique heron]

came back

[heady saddle]

It's time

[delicate solar]

Does bravery dmg scale slower the more hours you put in? How far is it worth pushing? Im at 200k rn

[oblique heron]

I need to get w2 w3 trophies but i don't wanna

[oblique heron]

Should be linear

[heady saddle]

per 6 hrs that you afk iirc

[toxic ocean]

that's can't be very good just +1?

[rancid elm]

Hows your multi only -4% mine is -70%

[toxic ocean]

probably has pufferblob and some other stuff

[simple path]

hey guys, I can't buy the gem shop library upgrade. Do I need to get rid of the current checkouts I have?

I have 1/4 (I bought this one a long time ago)

[toxic ocean]

just don't buy it, it's useless anyway

but as far as the question goes idk

[simple path]

is it? Saw a pic saying to buy it

[toxic ocean]

it doesn't do anything so i don't think the picture you have is good

[simple path]

[simple wadi]

It is indeed useless. It was useful when the library was new, but now we can guarantee the max level of a book via construction's automatic arm.

[sullen parrot]

yes

[simple path]

Oh, I see

It's for the minimum not the max

sry for that

[toxic ocean]

people should really remove those very old misleading guides

[simple path]

Yeah, I saw it on disc somewhere

dk where actually, but probably on #1084911530417606656

[quaint thorn]

How do i update the review website?

[lilac anvil]

how efficient is this

[heady saddle]

update your IT/IE profile, or copy paste your json data again

[oblique heron]

Can someone link pet teams doc can't find it

[oblique heron]

Very

[heady saddle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview#gid=1286504271

this one?

[oblique heron]

Ye

[heady saddle]

With the shrine ballot active, I'm guessing now is the best time to 12 hr candy?

[oblique heron]

Maybe

[north socket]

Is it doable to rush bubble lvls for tome score? Like constant bubo and mass level bubbles with jade coins and stuff like that?

[languid mist]

Yea I did that for a while. Went from around 200k~ to 500k~ levels. Plenty of "infinite" bubbles to level up. I hope you've got Larry prisma'd though

[north socket]

Yeah i do have larry prisma'd, i want to go from 100k to 500k but my cauldrons are lv 400-500, i need to use lab node for liquids to make it easier right?

[north socket]

Did it take you hours, days, weeks?

[languid mist]

I was doing it for a few weeks. With kruk also giving levels in the background the number of days it also cut some time out of the grind. I might've done it for around 2 weeks at most.

[languid mist]

I did not use the lab node for liquids much because it cuts the liquid regen speed by a lot. Only times I used it was when I did not feel like constantly babysitting the liquids to spend them. In general you shouldn't use it and jus tkeep an eye out for when your liquids are full.

Also make sure you configure your prints so that you're hourly clicking as many bubbles as possible, it's something I did and do still.

[tulip star]

What does the +max equinox level bonus from summoning even do?

[languid mist]

increases the level cap for all upgradeable equinox

assuming you meant this such bonus

not all of them have their level increased though

[tulip star]

Yep

[flint quail]

i have this at 250 but my lucky charms doesnt show any enhancement tooltip. Is this normal?

[tulip star]

Ah, thats why it doesnt increases the cap for liquidvestment

[next compass]

Does 2 DK's double the effects of the construction talents or does it only count one of the DK's talents

[vagrant skiff]

whichs ones are the most worth, they all kinda mid sicne i got all crops

[heady saddle]

highest level one only methinks

[vagrant skiff]

wtf bro why u world 7 with talents so low

[granite owl]

As Arcane Cultist should I remove all spells except revive and skulls for AFK? Since normal attacks do skulls

[heady saddle]

are you cc ing?

[rancid elm]

You mean active right

[heady saddle]

I usually use ghost if cc

[rancid elm]

@heady saddle yo I wana know what's the best skill setup for early infinite cc

[heady saddle]

revive and ghost

Also pop the arcane crystal

[rancid elm]

I tried that and I still had like 6k sec remaining know what's wrong

[heady saddle]

which map are you cc ing?

[rancid elm]

Worms

[heady saddle]

tenteyecle lvl 400+?

[rancid elm]

I have lvl 401 cc and twntacle

[granite owl]

cc'ing? As in changing channel?

[rancid elm]

And my cranium bubbles give 110% effect

[heady saddle]

cranium cooking

[rancid elm]

Cranium cooking

[granite owl]

Oh, yeah.

[heady saddle]

Probably super talent cc talent? idk what else tbh

[rancid elm]

I have done that

Tbh i even myself don't know what's worng

[lilac anvil]

what the hell is even going on with this abomination, its well, an abomination

[rancid elm]

The most abomination looking abomination

[north socket]

ty good sir 🫡

[oblique heron]

my ores became better than logs

[lilac anvil]

i actually did a double take realising what was going on haha

[rancid elm]

Tbh lava is the reason that this game is so good and bad at same time

Man makes a good game but also make bad diseseions

I hope I don't get ban

[sacred wave]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[heady saddle]

suuuurely not :p

[keen bough]

damn are worms stronger than content before them...doing quest for them will be tough

[oblique heron]

imagine fixing bugs

[rancid elm]

Yo I wana know what's the point at which one should brute force the sailing artifacts i have 0.01% chance on fury I was thinking to brute force it

[normal lagoon]

Also doesn't fix bugs for awhile, but he's so adorkable that it's hard to be mad at him

[pulsar arch]

🔥 🔥

[oblique heron]

lucky

[pulsar arch]

if its >0 u can bruteforce it

[crimson sorrel]

Woh u got bigger print then me

[pulsar arch]

i think i should reprint during this week

[oblique heron]

tiny prints

[surreal coyote]

Does each individual eclipse skull give a 1.05x damage multiplier?
(so two skulls would be 1.1025x and not 1.10x)

Or is the eclipse skull multiplier "additive" within the deathnote (with four eclipse skulls giving 1.2x damage multiplier instead of 1.21x)

[crimson sorrel]

I am noob

[pulsar arch]

[oblique heron]

equip food

[pulsar arch]

[oblique heron]

your feasty is 4 times better bruh

[crimson sorrel]

Wtf is food

[heady saddle]

stuff you eat

[crimson sorrel]

Oh

I got no food

[heady saddle]

then make some

[crimson sorrel]

I don't know cooking

[heady saddle]

Make some instant ramen ggez

[crimson sorrel]

I am broke

[normal lagoon]

Just wait til you have a cloud to discover, you are SET.

TBH though I'll gladly pick up any endercapt at this point since I still need a few more and I feel like it's been over a week since I got one.

[surreal coyote]

Are you lvl 60 sailing yet

[crimson sorrel]

I want to make 1m gold peanuts but my hand not helping me

[pulsar arch]

i can chose which one i want

[oblique heron]

he will add infinite clouds i know it

[normal lagoon]

Yeah yeah, I'd love to get picky with em

[normal lagoon]

Honestly? That wouldn't be a terrible idea to make Cloud Discover Rate useful

[oblique heron]

god rank for sailing whic will be called cloud rank

[crimson sorrel]

This could be possible if sb master class introduced

[normal lagoon]

Given he's changing the COG BOARD OF CONS, I 100% expect a sailing update since Omni didn't take very long to finish.

[pulsar arch]

and we'll have to wait for update additional 5 weeks till lava add it thanks chat

[heady saddle]

You guys think I should do a bean trade for og and speed or nah?

[native plume]

any photo how to spread land rank points with 4k lvl pls?

[normal lagoon]

It can be possible now. The MC has nothing to do necessarily with sailing (besides maybe talent 8), so

[crimson sorrel]

What can we get after omni

[pulsar arch]

depends on what u want to do

[normal lagoon]

Nothing til W8. I expect other changes.

[native plume]

still unlocking new crops i guess

[crimson sorrel]

What name it should be

[normal lagoon]

Like Exotic Market for Loot or something to do with Clouds

[pulsar arch]

so mostly in crop evo

poof done

[native plume]

ye but the furthest upgrades are strongest ye? so hm points do i put in the weaker ones

just keep them in 100s?

[heady saddle]

There should be a spreadsheet that automizes the land rank point spread

[crimson sorrel]

Get evo to 3x then go for speed

[native plume]

checked pins and didnt see it thats why im asking:(

[heady saddle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1_Z0-mJKRMxjFb0CSmg9MlfxDgdtwNyeVDd-7Bb1wXzs/htmlview

[heady saddle]

wait what about og?

[oblique heron]

og is badddd

[heady saddle]

fr?

[oblique heron]

more crops = more og

[heady saddle]

i see

at what kph should I go push to demonblub and other portals?

[pulsar arch]

should i craft g peanuts for print or no..

[pulsar arch]

[granite owl]

where does it show up?...

[pulsar arch]

exactly where u just sent

[heady saddle]

It's specific to the map

[granite owl]

So it's just very, very, very miniscule per arcane mob?

[pulsar arch]

for 1.3 bonus u need like 500k arcane kills? smth like this

[native plume]

u start stacking it after lifting barrier during arcanist form

[granite owl]

Then it makes sense. Thanks 👍

[native plume]

but the .001x should appear quite quickly, at least it does for me

[pulsar arch]

yea first .001 is like 10 mobs or smth

if u click on portal skill it'll show how much u need

[normal lagoon]

Place a crystal WHILE in form. Check Talent 4 (Arcane Crystal), it'll tell you how many more arcane mobs you need to go up +0.001x

[dusty linden]

do you get more emporer visits for every character that reached the emporer?

[crimson sorrel]

Did you craft 1m peanuts

[normal lagoon]

Also don't worry too much about that until you're pretty far in Arcanist Form. Like I didn't really bother with it til I hit W5~6 and now I'm getting ~17-18 Arcane Mobs per 90 kills (the minimum) for a charge, which will be significantly faster than trying to do like 8 or 9 arcanes per ~150 kills per charge.

It's 100% an endgame thing and not really meant to be efficiently farmed til later.

[pulsar arch]

well before w7 update and without decent account it was hard to leave w1 in ac form

[granite owl]

Thank you so much! Didn't realize this..

[normal lagoon]

I'm pretty sure I left W1 in form before reaching W7

[granite owl]

AC definitely feels heavy to progress with ...

Currenly just aiming for the 1k of these

[normal lagoon]

PS: You mostly just want to do Pink for DR. It's also conveniently the first crystal, so yeah. Yellow is useless since you're not really gonna be XPing on anything pre-W7. Blue is useful for three reasons:

• It's a zone you want to kill a LOT of mobs in (GMush)
• It's a zone with a rare drop you want a lot of (Clammies, Stiltmoles)
• It's a zone with a skilling node you want a lot of/that is good for prints (Oak Logs for example)

[pulsar arch]

lava add craft all pls

[normal lagoon]

1000000000% yes that is the IMMEDIATE priority

[normal lagoon]

It's by FAR the hardest of the three because every map is a reprog. WW has no map prog, just world prog via killing aboms and it's not too bad. DB has literally no reprog and can even get into W7 right now.

[granite owl]

When royal guard

[normal lagoon]

I would assume it's next given we already know the name/icon (via in-game) and it's going to specialize in the first skill of W7

But like, probably not til after W7 is done?

[pulsar arch]

well yea, maps where u want farm both dr and afk gain is sand pot, clammies, moonman, stillmole

and just afk gains on gmush

[granite owl]

Oh, then it doesn't matter as I'm not in W7 yet hahaha

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah Sandy Pots too; Moonmen is eh cuz you don't really need a ton of Ghosts

[granite owl]

Won't be for a good while either

[pulsar arch]

g cakes

[normal lagoon]

You can also get them from W5/6 minibosses though. You can use a lot of ghosts, but you don't need them.
Also candying even w/o crystal still nets you a ton of ghosts

Ghosts never felt like they were as rare as Hampter/Perler

[pulsar arch]

from u barely get anything from w5/w6 colo

[normal lagoon]

I didn't say Colo.

I got 330k yesterday from 2x W6

[pulsar arch]

well miniboss is also in colo, but anyway 50k/1 miniboss is nothing

[normal lagoon]

Also like, you don't need 1.1b Ghosts

You do for Perler/Hampter though

[pulsar arch]

but u'll use less candies that way

[normal lagoon]

Anyway

[pulsar arch]

[normal lagoon]

Yes, you're proving my point.

One day I'll bother more with my Clammie crystal

[pulsar arch]

but if u want to equip all players with max possible stack (depends on progress ofc) u need like 2b ghosts probably

18m cakes on 10 chars, 180m cakes, *10 1.8b ghosts

[normal lagoon]

My point is, focus more on Clammie before you focus on Moonmen.

[pulsar arch]

both are important

[normal lagoon]

Okay Goldenko, let's just agree to disagree since we're so deep on a tangent already

[pulsar arch]

but moonman is limited till u get max stack g cake on everyone

[heady saddle]

How much kph should I aim to push next portal?

[normal lagoon]

You should go fix your prayers first. Pick up Beefy for Life (it's free damage) and check your KpH with Fibers on

(also later on, check your sample size w/o Royal Sampler since you could be at 90%)

[faint anchor]

How do I only just find out now that you can use wasd to move

[normal lagoon]

🥴

[faint anchor]

Literally been playing this game on and off for years never found out

[pulsar arch]

25 mins of afk for 300k peanuts, jeez

[normal lagoon]

YEARS?

You never thought to try WASD?

[heady saddle]

I have 90% sample rate but I forgot to remove royal sampler before sampling and I'm too lazy to resample

[normal lagoon]

Well this is the week to do it given the Statue meritocracy even though you don't have Demonflesh yet

[pulsar arch]

royal sampler doesnt really matter since its additive, but yea its good to remove

[faint anchor]

Yeah I mean I was on mobile for most of it I've switched over the PC couple months ago when I wanted to try this game again after leaving it for afk for 3 years on green mushrooms

[native plume]

but... do u know u can spam ctrl to speed up skilling actions?

[normal lagoon]

Okay so months not years, but yeah

[faint anchor]

And somehow some of you freaks can do three years worth of afk in one hour

[faint anchor]

Something similar has to exist or mobile right I always just click

[heady saddle]

I did resample with the merit buff 😅

[faint anchor]

Yeah I figured out boy accidentally hitting shift when I was typing and did the thing instead

[pulsar arch]

now the question is if i should farm more peanuts before sample

[faint anchor]

Yes

[heady saddle]

Do I not need to hit mk to consider pushing?

[normal lagoon]

While we're talking about prayers: Everyone use Vacuous Tissue too. Tired of the ignorance it gets. It's a FREE 2x Credits/Flurbos bonus.

[normal lagoon]

I don't think I did when I was pushing W7.

[pulsar arch]

300k is not that much difference than idk 2m

[heady saddle]

How long did you afk then?

[normal lagoon]

and yet you want me to make 100m cakes.

[pulsar arch]

cakes are way easier to craft and give way more 🔥

[normal lagoon]

Litterfish took awhile

The top portal opens decently quickly though and then you're only 1 map away from Demonflesh, and your meritocracy will be recovered

[pulsar arch]

well rn i have this, but at the start of w7 it took me like few h to open portal?

but ive got to last map in like 2 days or smth

[normal lagoon]

few h
Yeah, it took me like a few days to get past the east portal of Litterfish

I also joined in October though

[pulsar arch]

well 300k g peanuts is fine, time to print

[normal lagoon]

@heady saddle While you're doing that, push some other stuff with other characters (Vman's a great choice since he doesn't need to push and opens portals for free when you use Void Run). I wouldn't be surprised if your other skills like Alchemy and Summoning are low.

DB's also the best class at opening portals due to having the extra Barbarian talent that frequently 2xs your KpK

[raw marten]

anyone pushing w5 rn can tell me where theyh are and their damage please?

[heady saddle]

I guess I can consider farming 100k g dumplings for all characters?

[normal lagoon]

Not a terrible option. If you have GCheese too, that's pretty good for the sake of Shrine XP. GGrilled Nomwiches are also good for stats.
Also you do have Midnight Cookies and Coldseeker Bullets at minimum, yeah? Those push your damage quite a bit.
If your DR is decent, you can also start farming some statues on a DK to get to Zenith?

Feasty in particular will greatly boost the previously-mentioned cookies and bullets (and is also conveniently from W3 Crystals/Rams which is the best Zenith Cluster spot)

[surreal coyote]

this doesnt count for the achievement??

I was so hyped when I saw this

[normal lagoon]

776-778, not 767

[pulsar arch]

which talents should i super talent for print tho

[normal lagoon]

The fact that you talked about making 100m+ GCakes, I think you know and you're not truly asking.

[surreal coyote]

How do I raise the number? Because in Idleon tool box I see that I keep getting 76.7m trades

so if I were to raise it a tiny bit I might get to 77.6 or smth

[pulsar arch]

nah i mean iam serious rn, dont think if these 2 are mor important than str for example

[heady saddle]

I'm farming w5 statues to zenith

[normal lagoon]

I think it's just based on how far you are

[normal lagoon]

Efficiency Talent (Tab 1, Talent 11) is outstanding cuz it scales very well

Not Talent 15, it scales like ass

If you super something and it goes up like, 1% or less, typically a bad super.

Tab 2, Talent 7 is also very good (+MainStat from Equipment%)

[pulsar arch]

now the question is which one i should reset to get tab 1 talent 11

[normal lagoon]

I'm not sure if Tab 2, Talent 3 is that important

Cuz the HP/MP stuff is POW 10, right?

Tab 3, Talent 8, idk if that one's worth the super

[frigid moth]

Was wondering what level would it be logical to start going after the Chizoar outfit... atm it looks quite far fetched - having to have 10s of thousands of collectibles

[normal lagoon]

You're in the W5/6 channel, which leads me to believe you're in at least W5. You should probably be good enough to go for it by now.

[pulsar arch]

1% higher bonuses from statue where we have crazy bonuses from statues rn sounds good

[frigid moth]

i'm actually in w6, trying farm Bamboos for XP bcz trolls kick my ass 🙂

[normal lagoon]

Specifically for mining prints? I guess, but dunno if it's worth. Might be better than the HP one though, unsure.

OH, Tab 2, Talent 5, that's not worth a super.

I missed that one

[pulsar arch]

isnt thats base str?

[normal lagoon]

Isn't that the same thing as supering Tab 2, Talent 9?

[normal lagoon]

I mean if you're at a standstill pushing wise, you should probably go do stuff you missed in old worlds (Alchemy in particular, Hole, etc)

Given you think "10s of thousands of collectibles for Chizoar Set" is daunting to you, it sounds like you're quite underpowered for W6 atm

I also wouldn't be surprised if your prayers are looking pretty bad

[pulsar arch]

probably, but base str is huge

[frigid moth]

i guess i was rushing the collection part
not sure I have prayers actually

[normal lagoon]

There's a difference between it and Tab 2 Talent 9???

[frigid moth]

oh, tower defence ones?! oh yea, only 6 are open so far

[pulsar arch]

yep there's diff

[normal lagoon]

Run this, and also check if Fibers of Innocence increases your KpH (Do NOT just leave Fibers on permanently)
(the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th ones do not do anything regarding pushing)

[frigid moth]

mostly bcz i get black screen bug ever so often

[normal lagoon]

"base" and "base"

I still dunno if it's worth a super, and the values are so similar.

[pulsar arch]

but 715 and 700, 15 difference is probably like 500k or smth

[pulsar arch]

well maybe not 500 but a lot

[normal lagoon]

Yeah so your MSA is also severely lacking

That's another thing you can improve on.

In doing so, you'll also unlock another few Equinox clouds

[pulsar arch]

rn i have this

[normal lagoon]

(inb4 you don't know what Equinox is; I skipped it for awhile too)

[frigid moth]

I'm sorry, MSA?

[pulsar arch]

2300B compared to 3600B hp +-

[normal lagoon]

It's something you get from Gaming Superbits; it increases a lot of things for every best 10th wave

[pulsar arch]

well not that big diff as i through

[normal lagoon]

Like it gets you all of this

[heady saddle]

You get msa from automation arm lvl 4 iirc

[frigid moth]

gotcha
working on gaming bits as much as possible

[normal lagoon]

Oh technically yes you unlock the MSA from Automation Arm 4, but you unlock the benefits from it via Gaming

[ornate zephyr]

👋 @normal lagoon @pulsar arch

[normal lagoon]

Basically when you hit a wall in pushing, you should always go back and clean up stuff you missed: Set bonuses, alchemy (bubbles/vials), other skills

[ornate zephyr]

[normal lagoon]

"Sometimes to go forwards, we must first go back."

[frigid moth]

thank you @normal lagoon
went back, actually made the automatic arm (didnt have it yet) and now upgrading and i'll go hunt for more prayers for now.

[normal lagoon]

Oof, yeah be sure to always be building stuff too

Cuz that'll take you a hot while

[ornate zephyr]

wot was the next tome coral upgrade after the disfunctionall pallete luck?

[frigid moth]

hehe, yea 🙂

[heady saddle]

tachyon

[normal lagoon]

Tachyon => W7S2 => Equinox => W7S3

[ornate zephyr]

gud

[ornate zephyr]

thank both of yas

[normal lagoon]

(not DR Multi)

[ornate zephyr]

maybe ill finally break the sprout spirit barrier with that tychoon boost

have to wait for daily reset tho

[normal lagoon]

Have fun getting hardwalled by Woodlin for a bit.

Also I'd recommend taking advantage of this Statue + Div week via Lab levels

The extra lab levels will boost your crit and help you reach more Mega Crits (which prior to this week, helped me push 2 more maps to Leeks)

[ornate zephyr]

[normal lagoon]

Keep em in there til Ballot to get 2x Div Pts too (the EXP increase comes from Statues though)

Napkin math it was like 4.31x more XP from the Meritocracy (for me; YMMV)

(er wait that's Div XP not Lab XP kekw)

[ornate zephyr]

everyone always saying "you'll get hardwalled by pincermins or penguins", but thats completly bs

i always went straight through those "hard" maps on full auto first try, while getting stuck on some random easy mob

so no, im not gonna get stuck at woodlins

[drifting bridge]

Ye woodlins easy

[normal lagoon]

Depends where you are. I got stuck at Glublins, Sandypots, and Pincermen, then went back after we got the W7 Meritocracy stuff for more resources

[drifting bridge]

I'm at leeks rn

[normal lagoon]

After I got like 25~30% more crit rate though after learning you can Mega Crit in form, I went from Lanterns to Leeks

[drifting bridge]

Guys can anyone help me get some juicy dmg

Cos I'm hard stuck at 50000M dmg

[oblique heron]

no

[ornate zephyr]

especially since i recently finished DB completly so i can finally start spending my daily cheap upgrades on AC

trashwalker can die in a hole tho

[oblique heron]

only 100k

[oblique heron]

did you finish gray tome tho

[drifting bridge]

I mean I don't even have DB yet but atleat I have WW and AC

Is that weird

[drifting bridge]

GG

W

[ornate zephyr]

and all the upgrades with max level already maxed

[normal lagoon]

DB would help with farming skill, get you ribbons, etc.

Ribbons are pretty massive.

DB is also the #1 best Portal Pusher

[drifting bridge]

Ik but I kinda am on mobile so I think that makes it a bit more reasonable

Right?

[normal lagoon]

No, you already have other MCs, you're being lazy 🙂

[drifting bridge]

@normal lagoon no AC best active portal pusher right?

[normal lagoon]

Do you want me to lie and coddle you or do you want me to be honest?

[normal lagoon]

Active maybe. DB is #1 AFK

Most of your portal pushing will be done AFK

[drifting bridge]

Honest I don't need sugar coding

[normal lagoon]

Okay so stop being lazy and get DB NOW

[drifting bridge]

Yes sir

[normal lagoon]

Meals are HUGE, especially for GFood Effect

so getting ribbons is massive

[ornate zephyr]

yumi peachring my beloved 🥰

[normal lagoon]

TL;DR (I literally just said this earlier ): If you're lacking push power in your current prog, you should go back and work on stuff you missed over/stuff you're being lazy on, etc.

• Stamps
• Statues (esp in W7 for Zenith)
• Alchemy (Bubbles/Vials)
• Worship TD (MSA benefits)
• Set bonuses you missed
• All the "account-wide skills" of W4+, yes even the skills you don't enjoy, the game doesn't care if you don't enjoy them, tolerate them.

If you have MCs, you can even start working on pushing Grimoire/Compass/Tesseract if you want (the above stuff is more important first though cuz the more you do, the more you'll likely start getting MC Resource mults)

[ornate zephyr]

i still dont have w7 zeniths

and kachow but we dont talk about it

[normal lagoon]

Virtually no one has Kachow so don't feel bad about that

[reef pier]

Same, I farming power statues now

[normal lagoon]

Zenith is really big though, and once you have a ton of different Zeniths, you should start dropping statues for levels and you'll really notice the gains skyrocket

If you don't have Dragon Statue yet, ABSOLUTELY push Hole for it

Dragon Statue, mixed with Zeniths, is like the biggest spike in power you can get

[reef pier]

You can get kachow by completing the monument quest in w4 and you can onyx it(but who zenithed it?...)

[normal lagoon]

Yes, ONYXED is easy. Zenithed is nigh impossible unless you mega whaled during the christmas event and got very lucky with the statue tickets.

[ornate zephyr]

im finishing my w6 beanstalks, only missing 55k nigiri's (all those statues already zenithed, only keeping them for leveling, dumplings 🫘 'd already)

[normal lagoon]

(or you have so many trophies from weekly bosses and Kachow shows up)

[reef pier]

Yeah

[ornate zephyr]

technically if you were somehow insane mastermind its not that hard

those tickets can only give you statues you have donated, or a power statue if none

so if you ONLY had kachow donated, you had a 100% chance

[normal lagoon]

I'm sure some of the top players have zenith kachow but 99.999% of the playerbase doesn't.

[ornate zephyr]

i doubt even 10 ppl have kachow without cheating

[reef pier]

Right now, I'm at jars, btw how to break all the jars at once?

[ornate zephyr]

74 years average is just too unrealistic, even with the 80k headstart

[normal lagoon]

Unlocked via Engineer

[reef pier]

I see

[normal lagoon]

I'm at like 120k (after onyx and some levels), no clue how.

Probably got lucky on some statue tickets

[cyan geyser]

What are the best gem shop world buys

[ornate zephyr]

lab and stealth lvls with 5x statues

[normal lagoon]

I'm at like 12x now

Sorry not like, I am at 12x.

[reef pier]

9 lvls away...

Oh 1 and a half hour, and I get to evertree

[normal lagoon]

Evertree is where you get the (currently) last villager, so that's pretty big

[normal lagoon]

A little too broad of a question for me, sorry. This is the current tier list image as of W7

[ornate zephyr]

y is golden anvil still above 2x printer

[normal lagoon]

Idk about this though. ONE purchase is good, but not maxing it to 8

[ornate zephyr]

ik its in world order but wtf, couldnt you make an exception

[normal lagoon]

I'm not the one who made it kekw

[ornate zephyr]

ik

[normal lagoon]

Also Anvil is great early on, becomes useless by the time you get to endgame

[ornate zephyr]

but cmon, double printer should have its very own SSS++ tier

[normal lagoon]

Also it's definitely NOT in world order given S Tier starts with W6 then goes back to W3

I think they just threw things on the lists in random ordering

[ornate zephyr]

even worse somehow

[normal lagoon]

Also what??????

[raw marten]

anyone pushing w5 rn can tell me where theyh are and their damage please?

[normal lagoon]

@raw marten Don't compare and focus on yourself instead. Use this ^

[raw marten]

i js wanna know if my damage is normal

[normal lagoon]

What is "normal" in a game that spirals virtually every crevice and damage bonuses comes from anywhere

When I was in W5, I'm pretty sure I had the Ancient Golem pet which 10x'd my damage. If I gave you my W5 damage values, you'd have a conniption.

[inland lodge]

anyone know why my sneaking chance is 35% when vman is on combat talent set and 4% when he is on skilling talent set ? like what actually affects sneaking

[raw marten]

we get it, but if my damage is below the normal or average i would be notified to increase it.

[normal lagoon]

The equips. There's no talents or things you can do on a character to change THEIR individual stealth values outside of what you equip on your ninja twins.
There's the WW talents, but they are global. Any other stealth bonuses are also global

[ornate zephyr]

Damage doesnt come from a single source, preety much everything gives you Damage in one way or another, so it just compounds as you proggress your account

[normal lagoon]

Well I don't have damage values for you, sorry. I can only tell you how to improve them, which I already did.

Like the difference between having the damage pets and not is at least 20x

[inland lodge]

and how do my equipments change when i change the talent set ? all should be the same . and also it affects every ones sneaking but my main sneaker is the one i am talking and he is AC

[ornate zephyr]

see if you missed something big like alchemy stamps or divinity

[normal lagoon]

Ninja Twins Equips, not your character gear or whatever.
Can you post a screenshot of all your Ninja Twins equips?
Also if your VMan's Ninja on a different floor than the other Ninjas?

[inland lodge]

yeah i talked about twins equips , like how do those change with talent side change.

[reef pier]

Probably I should try later to get the 15 chemical plants when my gaming is under a minute

[inland lodge]

all ninjas on same floor

[normal lagoon]

Elaborate?

[normal lagoon]

Okay and your VMan's equips?
What do you mean "Talent Side Change"?

I'm just trying to see what you equipped everyone with

[normal lagoon]

That... doesn't affect sneaking

[crimson sorrel]

I did it when my speed is 1.3min

[raw marten]

bro...

[normal lagoon]

The only thing in talents that affects sneaking is WW's talents

[inland lodge]

vman is terminaattori

[normal lagoon]

... wait and you said your VMAN has the lowest detection????? With double lotus???

[crimson sorrel]

Where are copper slots

[reef pier]

I see, my right now is 6.2 min without cat

[normal lagoon]

They might not have progged Spelunking/W7 enough for that yet

[inland lodge]

no i said my AC is my main sneaker and his sneaking chance goes from 35% to 4%

[crimson sorrel]

Not that hard

[inland lodge]

what are those ?

[crimson sorrel]

It is unlocked by coral

[normal lagoon]

And your AC is...Ermies?

[inland lodge]

yes

[normal lagoon]

Yes and how do you get the Coral bonuses?
Think, Shokeen, THINK!

[crimson sorrel]

W7

[normal lagoon]

AND SPELUNKING. You need POW to break the cages.

[crimson sorrel]

I forgot about that

[reef pier]

You are quite farther in than I am. I still need to unlock the palette😅

[crimson sorrel]

Upgrade kitsune and squirrel to get more speed in early gaming

[raw marten]

thats what im saying

[normal lagoon]

Okay and what if someone drops a 1000x damage value and they have the companions and actually leveled alchemy and other skills that they didn't? They'd then ask "How do I get that level of damage?!?!?!?!"

That's why it's pointless to compare and instead just focus on improvement. I'm just skipping the step of the comparison and going right to improving yourself

[reef pier]

Gonna claim my present 3 chemicals, activate kitsune and push till 150(rn 146)🤔

[normal lagoon]

I literally gave a whole list of things on how they can improve themselves, are you fucking kidding me right now

[crimson sorrel]

I did the the normal one at when I had 16sec growt time in non pallet

[normal lagoon]

Is this real? Am I being ragebaited?

[inland lodge]

i am now on my vman and ermies sneaking now is 6% ( dont know why) and now i turn my talents to combat and his sneaking goes to 36%

[normal lagoon]

You just accused me of "not wanting to help" when I gave a whole list of how to help. You're the one who fired first.

[jagged silo]

80%

[normal lagoon]

And I'm cursing for the sake of emphasis because that's really shitty of you to do

[languid mist]

voodoo statufication?

[crimson sorrel]

Why do u like clicking so much

[languid mist]

or whatever the talent is called, the one that boosts statue effects

you likely only have it on the skilling preset

[jagged silo]

not that much rn

[normal lagoon]

Oh right, the Voodoo statuefication talent from VMan

Are you changing THEIR talent presets?

[crimson sorrel]

I am not doing the 50q one

[normal lagoon]

You should have that talent maxed on both presets

[inland lodge]

damn man that is the thing .. thanks

[jagged silo]

500Q is ezier than 50Q one

[normal lagoon]

Because I already said that comparing will do nothing but drive you insane as to why your damage is lower. They will then ask "HOW DO I GET THERE?!?!?!?!" to which I already skipped that step and told them.
If they still want to compare then they'll have to wait for someone to post a comparison image and waste time waiting instead of just directly fixing the problem.

[crimson sorrel]

What snail lv u got 35?

[jagged silo]

still 30...

[crimson sorrel]

That how tf it is easier

[jagged silo]

when 50Q snail 27

now is 30 and gaming one is higher score

[crimson sorrel]

I have 238m nugget and lv 30 snail why it not easy for me

[crimson sorrel]

Not that much difference

I think its my lazyness that stopping me

[jagged silo]

at least 7days become not even 2 days

[jagged silo]

bit multi show me

[crimson sorrel]

E41

[jagged silo]

?? *e41

[reef pier]

Got to 148

[stone wing]

https://tenor.com/view/yuna-yunayu-yunayuispink-dance-crab-gif-17539981110090013788

[jagged silo]

man

[jagged silo]

hello

[stone wing]

hello there

[crimson sorrel]

Wtf