#lategame-chat-w5πŸŒ‹-w6🌸

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prime compass
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i dont understand how this 3d printer is working. i had like 60k maple logs, i sampled 60 some thousand an hour, i didnt really get any afk progress claims, and didnt use my vmans printer ability, and now i have 1.3 million

simple wadi
dire cedar
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got some goodies

north perch
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i don't even do that xD

simple wadi
faint wigeon
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Could just send trial’s video no IdleHMMMM
Tho some seed have more crop than other

north perch
simple wadi
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That's interesting. You must have more plots than the game allows.

north perch
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in 1 i get 6 different crops from all then the speed is enough that as the crops evolve i get them to 100k

dire cedar
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which one should i dump all into now?

north perch
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omg wtf...

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i dont the locking he's doing

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that takes so much time

hoary kernel
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You guys dont setup 36 different glassy crop before trading ?

bleak gazelle
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i wonder if you need to with enough daymarket and db levels now Thonk

north perch
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so i do this and lock 1 crop ofc on each

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then i unlock

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and i click them all til it's 6 different ones

faint wigeon
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Yeah that’s one way but like if you’re early on not having multiple crop ready will be annoying

dire cedar
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welp heres how i did mine hopefully its alright

north perch
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and this is an insta reset

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with nothing locked

faint wigeon
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I used to do like how the vid showed, but every other plot of the same seed was always 2 crop after the previous one (like when looking at the crop depot)
Maybe badly explained but me no english

north perch
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im actually gonna do it

faint wigeon
north perch
simple wadi
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All of the methods we've talked about all achieve the same thing and all have their own drawbacks. I have yet to see a method considerably better than mine, so I'll keep recommending my method.

hoary kernel
faint wigeon
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Yeah just same things, in the end it’s mostly for new players since if they reset they lose so much without little bonus

north perch
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as u can see when im collecting them even tho it's 90k the next time it comes around it will go to 100k+

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so... this is just the fastest way

vagrant pumice
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arcade upgrades tier list?

azure finch
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yall 16 crops away

north perch
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now they all done and it's chill

prime compass
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in the beginning of spelunking, am i supposed to just be rushing through the levels, trying to get as deep as possible and then using the toll gate? or should i be clearing each level

north perch
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rest is just glassy

frank shore
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if i have 2 bb 2 DK and 1 of the rest what should my 10th char be

north perch
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1 ac probably

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sry. a 2nd ac probably*

frank shore
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i have 1 ac 1 db 1 ww

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i do have a full class reset too

north perch
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wait...

frank shore
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it's 1 db 1 bb

north perch
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ah ok

frank shore
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not 2 bb lol

north perch
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i mean ur on the current meta setup

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but we dont fully know what can happen in the future with masterclasses

frank shore
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do most people agree with 2 AC? doesn't the 2nd AC do all the work or am i cap

prime compass
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if the bb is the 2nd one, isnt it still only counting that one for the non personal kill counts?

frank shore
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but i do have a FULL reset still

north perch
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current meta is 2 db 2 dk 2 ac 1 of the rest

hoary kernel
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I keep my bubo

north perch
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do what u will with that info

frank shore
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i just dunno if my beginner can kill kruk on nightmare for the achievement

ornate zephyr
simple wadi
north perch
frank shore
prime compass
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idk why its the meta, but 2 ac isnt any of the meta's ive seen, people just say its more useful than 2nd sb

north perch
prime compass
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because 2nd sb is banking on good mc

simple wadi
north perch
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im curious about this 2nd sb tho

prime compass
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it just is part of "the meta" for whatever reason

north perch
frank shore
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so 100% 2nd AC?

north perch
prime compass
north perch
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we don't know what the next set of masterclasses will bring

frank shore
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so does the 2nd one do the afk and first one does CC?

hoary kernel
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I got 2sb and 2 bubo HackHack

simple wadi
nocturne patrol
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just wait 3 years for all masterclass to be out and keep a beginner xd

ornate zephyr
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A. for a 3/3/3 spread on the basic classes, instead of going 4/3/2

B. Catching prints and 3rd smelter for constant 5m claims

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you do logs for atoms btw, not copper

north perch
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warrior is warrior afterall

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i dont personally have 2 dbs so idk what the interaction is with 2 farming bones

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the main reason is the copper prints

pastel kayak
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@simple wadi how long do I leave my alts on Div before I check them?

frank shore
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i've had my beginner for like a whole year now

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guess it's time to give him a class lol

prime compass
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2nd vman Pog

simple wadi
pastel kayak
hoary kernel
simple wadi
north perch
pastel kayak
prime compass
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ew 2nd ww? gross

north perch
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if ur gonna do a 3/3/3 spread u might aswell just leave the 10th character a beginner and wait for masterclasses

ornate zephyr
simple wadi
hoary kernel
pastel kayak
north perch
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our convo is over after u typed that @ornate zephyr

frank shore
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LETS GOOOOOOO

ornate zephyr
prime compass
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i was looking at a super talent tier list, but its a few years old, so i need an opinion. i have super'd vman/maestros "one step ahead" what should i super next? printer? speedrun? the multikill thing?

north perch
hoary kernel
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Copper usually is higher than log ever since bravery appeared

ornate zephyr
north perch
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(i did a copper print on mage as a test too)

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btw, the log print is more recent

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the copper print is oldge

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so don't try to debate it that way

frank shore
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should i turn my 2nd BB into DB?

undone wagon
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Or?

north perch
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ask anyone in endgame chat if u'd like (except that one special guy i saw in general chat) copper prints are just much higher.

frank shore
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yeah no way my beginner can do nightmare kruk lmao

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YO WHAT THE FUCK

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B2B NECKLACES

north perch
# frank shore should i turn my 2nd BB into DB?

it's up to you really, only way it's turning into something other than a warrior class is the full reset and if not the other option would be what? the elite swap with a dk that mirai was saying you could do which is also viable.

frank shore
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yeah i might do that if i have a class swap

north perch
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let me just check something rq.

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don't wanna accidentally mislead you with old info

frank shore
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ah nice

north perch
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i just went on leaderboard and checked what he has just in case

prime compass
north perch
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These are the classes Arlong is running.

frank shore
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well, on my vman about to do nightmare

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yeah no way my vman clears

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not enough dmg to clear the moles.....

north perch
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baby vman

frank shore
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fuck man

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gg 70 keys lol

north perch
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kinda impressive you have a vman at this point xD

frank shore
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need to like 1 shot him somehow

north perch
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a lot of people for some reason don't despite being w6

prime compass
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i guess i've gotten a decent amount of gems from level ups, i didnt realize i have 500 in my chest

north perch
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nice

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that chest eatin' good tonight.

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don't u dare touch it's gems

prime compass
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time to sell them all happytroll

north perch
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D:

opaque hatch
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Best way for shiny critter farm?

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20 min royals?

north perch
prime compass
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something like that

opaque hatch
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Cool, need crabbos

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A ton.

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I guess with the prayer on right?

north perch
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20min royal with the critter numnums if u dont hit 100% and ofc the prayer maxxed

frank shore
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yeah i have exactly 0 clue how i'm going to beat nightmare kruk on vman

tough tundra
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if struggling with Shiny chance place the traps from your beastmaster aswell

opaque hatch
frank shore
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i am spam clicking him and the moles just heal too much

opaque hatch
frank shore
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the whip?

north perch
prime compass
opaque hatch
north perch
opaque hatch
north perch
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ah, damn...

opaque hatch
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Yea

prime compass
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meritocracy is going to take me like a billion years to get

north perch
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would've literally saved you hours of pain

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well, not really pain it's just something slightly tedious

opaque hatch
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I'll do the trapping tomorrow

hoary kernel
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Or do you want to gstack shiny

north perch
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oh for me personally it's because i know shiny critters is a hassle to go through so i picked it for the newer players

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starsigns technically is the only thing that would benefit me but i dont really care for it

hoary kernel
north perch
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so i just picked for the people that dont have godshard set fully done

hoary kernel
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Marvelous

north perch
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and those that just entered w7 pretty much

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i mean... i guess i can level up the vial a few times...

hoary kernel
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Lvl 13 shiny frog LETSFUCKINGGOOO

north perch
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what i'll probably do is just craft godshard+ traps for all my characters

hoary kernel
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I bet some endgamer actually did that HackHack

north perch
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and then call it done

north perch
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wow i can't type that word rly...

frank shore
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wow i did it

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LOTS of spam clicking literally everything on the map with perfect timing on spells

north perch
hoary kernel
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Yea the automute is stupid

north perch
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it's fine, it helps prevent shenanigans but sometimes it can be slightly restricting

hoary kernel
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Ive been mut ed many times so I dont wanna risk

north perch
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i've been accidentally muted when i shouldn't have been

hoary kernel
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This could be the last one

dire cedar
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ive been harrassed by staff far too much to test these things unfortunately πŸ™

hoary kernel
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Ive also been nuked by hotair

north perch
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during a giveaway lava made it so you got a 4 hours slowmode last one to type won right, and when he removed the restriction i still had the 4hrs restriction when it was lifted from everyone else

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i got scammed.

hoary kernel
north perch
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the nuke is just a meme tho right? it doesn't do anything?

dire oracle
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are multikill obols even worth it on vman or any other characters or should I always frag them?

north perch
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drop rate is king.

dire oracle
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gotcha thanks

frank shore
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so my main AC should be active CC while my 2nd AC is afk pushing?

frank shore
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bro this thing is BUSTED

north perch
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you just CC on whichever u feel like actively but they are both afk pushing otherwise (so long as u unlocked the afk rocks gain)

frank shore
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only have to get the afk rocks on one person right ?

north perch
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not too sure since i have old meta which used to be 2 ES

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i don't have any class swaps and didnt wanna use a reset for it else i wouldve swapped it

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im sleep now.

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gn gn

prime compass
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hmm i guess i dont really need to do orders for boxes anymore

frank shore
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how do i get a fuck ton of boss keys

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i need the eternal flames of the divine for kruk set bonus -.-

prime compass
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kill a fuck ton of mobs

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with a fuck ton of dr

dire oracle
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current meta is not still 2 ES?

upper sigil
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guys what upgrade should i double in essence

frank shore
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not good news lol

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how do i get a lot of DR

prime compass
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and swap depending on need

upper sigil
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i was thinking essenze

upper sigil
prime compass
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i think people mostly do essence when they cant push anymore endless/matches

upper sigil
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thx

toxic horizon
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question... i have a mage with the second link to goharut so he can be in the lab and gain divinity. i see in the talent that it says that's it's link. so i know it's set. but if i go to the alter on a different character, it's saying that he's at 0/hr for divinity gain. am i missing something?

prime compass
dire cedar
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after resetting i now have 30 new crops discovered, i also havent gotten the medal crops yet, that was just from me getting each of the previous crops before glassy lol. the last glassy crop i had was that green petal at the top left just for reference)

echo crag
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goat god require to physicaly be in lab for it to work

toxic horizon
prime compass
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if you are physically in the lab, and are linked to the right divinity, i dont know what to tell you

vapid kayak
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So how hard is King doot to get?

prime compass
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very hard or very easy depending on your luck. one person got it in 5 free draws

vapid kayak
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Wow

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Well trading wise then ?

prime compass
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i had to trade 2 shop pets for it

vapid kayak
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i assume not easy

prime compass
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but it depends on the persons needs

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some people want pets you cant obtain anymore

vapid kayak
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i can't post screenshots x)

prime compass
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most people want riptide, or fallen spirits pets(the previous pet draw pool)

vapid kayak
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i have riptide and whale

prime compass
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riptide is probably the one with more value there

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but again, it depends on what the person needs

vapid kayak
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I see, thanks!

prime compass
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the person could want one of the basic pets that they cant draw for, because they spent too much money

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like this guy who traded a doot for a green mushroom or something

prime compass
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they had all the other pets they needed so what else are they going to do shrug

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once you spend x dollars, you cant draw the basic tier pets anymore

vapid kayak
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with how much am spending i might end up there too OMEGALUL

prime compass
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im worried my game might crash πŸ™

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well not if my guy runs into the portal and all the crystals despawn f me

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i need to turn off the offscreen portal setting

dire cedar
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who was the guy earlier that i asked what their farming lvl was?

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i have 34 glassy crops left to discover 4 medal crops

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god damn im pretty sure i had 188 crops before i reset, i was also lvl 275 in farming

normal lagoon
dire cedar
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dawg what in the unholy fuck is going on? it took me so much time to build up a 26m bean trade and within like maybe 30 minutes at most an hour it went from 26m to this?

normal lagoon
dire cedar
normal lagoon
dire oracle
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any reason to get more than 1 of the same shiny pet?

normal lagoon
dire oracle
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awesome thanks

normal lagoon
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Pretty sure it'll be like 2x if you have 2, 3x if you have 3, etc

dire cedar
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crop value multi is what were talkin about right? @normal lagoon

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sorry im really tired lol

dire oracle
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is this overkill then? thinking I maybe should've unlocked other shinies first

vital prism
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so kind of a dumb question but how do you get lucky lad trophies now to make the divine scarf?

bleak gazelle
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they still drop shrug

vital prism
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yeah and i see the drops but they dont show in either my inventory or my storage

bleak gazelle
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do you have them filtered?

dire cedar
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bro hit me with a msg lol

echo crag
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i still get like 200 for a 24h claim, thank god for filters

normal lagoon
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Base cap is 10Kx without the Exotic Market

vital prism
bleak gazelle
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i've been there

prime compass
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is there a certain number of spelunking scrolls you want to use at once?

dire cedar
# prime compass is there a certain number of spelunking scrolls you want to use at once?

for each level of the possible story, it does
randomfloat() < min(0.5, (lvl + 0.5) / 4)
and having at least certain amount in the stack:

1-1: 100 pages
1-2: 2 000 pages
1-3: 25 000 pages

2-1: 100 pages
2-2: 2 500 pages
2-3: 10 000 pages
2-4: 200 000 pages

3-1: 100 pages
3-2: 10 000 pages
3-3: 200 000 pages

4-1: 100 pages
4-2: 4 000 pages
4-3: 100 000 pages
4-4: 2 500 000 pages

and actual gains are
floor( (1 + (log2(amount / 100) + 3 * log10(amount/100)) + randmofloat() ) * (1 + chapterbonus%) ) btw add 1 extra scroll/page onto these numbers

prime compass
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so uhh, use 101 scrolls for the 1st bonus, 2001 for the 2nd, and 25001 for the 3rd?

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or whatever number + 1 for whatever bonus

echo crag
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bonus are still random, but you need that amount of page to get a chance at the higher oens

waxen willow
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Question, in relation to Sneaking:

is it reccomended to level jade coing gain and sneaking level, or to save coins and buy upgrades at the jade emporium?

dire cedar
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each row is 15 which means medal crops are 50 total. that means if i were to buy all the insta grow things from the gem shop it would take 4 days of waiting to have enough insta grows to get all the medals

normal lagoon
prime compass
dire cedar
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is there a way to check my odds of getting my next crop on IT? cuz im making crops too fast to see what my odds are for the next crop

normal lagoon
normal lagoon
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544

dire cedar
torn carbon
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Are there any low hanging fruit for big damage? I cant multikill w6 anymore https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Ragishar

normal lagoon
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(also turn on Beefy prayer if it's off since it increases damage for virtually no downside)

torn carbon
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sounds good, i still need to unlock beefy

fallen orbit
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when do it boost pow

normal lagoon
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You'll later get Jewel Cogs in Duperbits (unlocked via Spelunking), giving you 1/3/5 per day (with up to 2 legend points invested).

Assuming you have Ultimate cogs, you can spam them for awhile since jewel cogs aren't guaranteed to be better, and AFAIK, they only give I and ---- (Column and Row) directional cogs so you still need the pointing and X ulti cogs

torn carbon
normal lagoon
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Like if you're past Skydoggies, for sure since you're so close

torn carbon
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im at mama trolls right now

normal lagoon
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Yeah, probably not then. Might be time to go back and work on some things like Alchemy and Statues

torn carbon
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yeah i really want to do more alchemy but my bubo is still low talents, trying to get sailing up to fury relic

normal lagoon
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There's bonuses all over the place if you know where to look

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(also Hole, since everyone seems to just give up there)

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Equinox also gives a 10% damage multi per point in Scims

prime compass
vivid cipher
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Although it'd prob be faster to just push fury relic with how easy it is to get arti chance nowadays

normal lagoon
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Speaking of sailing I hope Lava adds something to it when you have oops all omni

vivid cipher
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Would be cool since the skill becomes pointless post omni

normal lagoon
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It's so weird the only benefit I can get out of it now is to feed Arctis's blessing for more div pts and the few bubbles that use those currencies as materials

prime compass
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huh, with Quickdraw Quiver, the 1 billion cap is actually kind of nice, because 1 billion jade coins is basically nothing for me

vivid cipher
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Jade and ess bubbles are very easy to get 99% yeah

prime compass
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oh yeah i just unlocked an ess bubble, and thats basically free as well

vivid cipher
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I guess also the first island to pump up Big P

normal lagoon
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Also these 7 bubbles

vivid cipher
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Ah right the extra levels so you'll need still need the sailing currency

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Forgot about the tri bubbles

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Dont those just suck after a certain threshold?

low coral
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!merits

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!meritw6

prime compass
low coral
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I'm gonna scream

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!merit6

obtuse orbitBOT
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⚠️ WARNING: Currently you can't get enough merit points to get everything. Don't buy the talent points.
1️⃣ First 3 purchases give plots making Farming a lot faster.
2️⃣ Summoning Winner Bonuses are very influential at all stages.
3️⃣ Farming mainly for OG chance. Can be swapped with Jade Gain if you prioritize Sneaking more.
4️⃣ Jade Gain is placed low because getting all Jade Emporium purchases is easier than all crops in Farming and since Farming buffs Sneaking.
5️⃣ Mob respawn last. Doesn't save much time. Can be done earlier if you have finished Farming and Sneaking.
⏳ Unreleased. Priority unknown but likely high if/when you can buy them.
β›” Don't get the talent points even if you have points to spare. The recipes will be higher priority when released.

toxic horizon
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oh noo... i just saw i don't have the achieve for having 1500 oak logs in bank.. i've got 36 million in there.. is there any easy way to do this?

bleak gazelle
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make a 2nd stack

silk wasp
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split stack

toxic horizon
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wait.. you can do that? in the bank?

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oh..

faint wigeon
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you can happy

prime compass
# toxic horizon oh..

me when i dropped 1.5 million oak logs on the ground and found out about splitting stacks

faint wigeon
prime compass
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when my carry cap was like 2k a stack

silk wasp
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is leek spirit with 70k kph good or horrible?

toxic horizon
faint wigeon
silk wasp
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what does gohorrible mean

prime compass
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bodorrible

toxic horizon
silk wasp
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i mean im sure horrible appreciates the support but

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go horrible

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i g

prime compass
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its probably french for amazing or smth

faint wigeon
faint wigeon
silk wasp
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ok

faint wigeon
prime compass
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i cant believe ive been talking to a french person

toxic horizon
silk wasp
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carried by ancient golem πŸ˜”

prime compass
silk wasp
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me

prime compass
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you...have ancient golem? and only have 70k kph?

silk wasp
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yes πŸ˜”

prime compass
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thats awful, not even bad

zinc torrent
prime compass
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70k without ancient golem is meh, but 70k with is atrocious

pastel kayak
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I forgot about my groups and woke up to that @bleak gazelle

faint wigeon
silk wasp
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ok is this better

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for leek spirit btw

prime compass
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idk the character, but i had like 200-300k

zinc torrent
faint wigeon
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dunno just asking like that

prime compass
faint wigeon
prime compass
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and definetly not enough for the ones after that

pastel kayak
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I can do most of the kills in dungeon on my main @faint wigeon

prime compass
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150m with <100k 😨

silk wasp
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skydoggies are gonna cook me πŸ˜”

faint wigeon
silk wasp
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how much max damage should i have?

toxic horizon
zinc torrent
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From what Ive seen w1 dungeon carries seem bit broken bc all the drops now ppl desyncin

prime compass
jagged silo
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also morninghappy

silk wasp
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can get like 20t with megacrit

prime compass
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GuyMontag hundreds of trillions base damage

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i was hitting for like quadrillions

silk wasp
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πŸ˜” oh

pastel kayak
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@bleak gazelle is that good for me?

faint wigeon
pastel kayak
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Bad @faint wigeon alert

faint wigeon
pastel kayak
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Mega evil bad @jagged silo alert

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If want to do world 1 dungeon I can help with main @faint wigeon

prime compass
silk wasp
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howwww???

prime compass
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do everything more, and lots of summoning

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summoning has at least like 12x damage

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and total damage cards

silk wasp
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ive been doing summoning but its kinda time gated

toxic pilot
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i got 2 DB's both talents affect each other as wraith? like one get the other ones bonuses aswell ?

faint wigeon
keen crag
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how do i start to approach w5?

silk wasp
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candy spam

toxic pilot
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oh ya

prime compass
faint wigeon
# keen crag how do i start to approach w5?

Welcome in happytroll

Check out the 3rd πŸ“Œ for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements. Go ahead and throw all your characters on divinity and read through the divinity primer, though you'll most likely only get to 2nd or 3rd god by the time you can kill the boss. Also move your shrines in w5 town.
Remember to check out https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700
-# Caverns in the Hole are unlocked based on time (by Opals placed on your Explorer) and typically don't require specific characters to do too much

Early Div Goals

  • Arctis (2nd) god unlocked (link all characters for lab bonuses)
  • Swap to Focus style (at lvl 10)
  • Goharut (5th) god unlocked (move family to lab, relink to Goat)
  • UNTESTED: Swap to Chakra style for exp (or maaaybe mantra?)
  • Swap to Vitalic style (at lvl 25)
  • Purrmep (7th) unlocked (link 1 person, even if dooted, ES recommended)
  • All to 40 Div for TranQi style, one mage to 50 for Multitool stamp
  • Now you can afk other places like Monuments, push, w/e

Helpful Hints

  • Teleport to the Hole and walk out the portal, get some Maple Logs so that you can roll for the vial
  • Leave an ES in skill setup with 11th and 13th talent maxed
  • Use Biggie Hours card
  • Use Pocket Div from Hole for Harriep/Omniphau (can swap Harriep to Nobi when claiming afk combat or Omni to Nobi when active, swap back when clamining other afk)
  • If Dooted, get everyone to level 2 then off to lab and follow above
  • YOU CAN UNLINK MULTIPLE CHARACTERS AT ONCE

-# Other Notes
-# Mantra style is, imo, not particularly worth it, as you get access to 3-4 gods with pocket div now, so rushing unlocks is generally better
-# Just acecow's recommendations

bleak gazelle
prime compass
#

there it is

faint wigeon
bleak gazelle
#

Early Div Goals

  • Arctis (2nd) god unlocked (link all characters for lab bonuses)
  • Swap to Focus style (at lvl 10)
  • Goharut (5th) god unlocked (move family to lab, relink to Goat)
  • UNTESTED: Swap to Chakra style for exp (or maaaybe mantra?)
  • Swap to Vitalic style (at lvl 25)
  • Purrmep (7th) unlocked (link 1 person, even if dooted, ES recommended)
  • All to 40 Div for TranQi style, one mage to 50 for Multitool stamp
  • Now you can afk other places like Monuments, push, w/e

Helpful Hints

  • Teleport to the Hole and walk out the portal, get some Maple Logs so that you can roll for the vial
  • Leave an ES in skill setup with 11th and 13th talent maxed
  • Use Biggie Hours card
  • Use Pocket Div from Hole for Harriep/Omniphau (can swap Harriep to Nobi when claiming afk combat or Omni to Nobi when active, swap back when clamining other afk)
  • If Dooted, get everyone to level 2 then off to lab and follow above
  • YOU CAN UNLINK MULTIPLE CHARACTERS AT ONCE

-# Other Notes
-# Mantra style is, imo, not particularly worth it, as you get access to 3-4 gods with pocket div now, so rushing unlocks is generally better
-# Just acecow's recommendations

jagged silo
#

got 2 more

silk wasp
#

laughs in doot

keen crag
#

so put all my chars into div and out of lab?

silk wasp
#

div jail

prime compass
faint wigeon
bleak gazelle
#

i don't think mine ever did

prime compass
#

use the power of god to power your science

faint wigeon
keen crag
#

what is the strat for picking the two options in div?

prime compass
#

cheap one until the expensive one is 50/100%

pastel kayak
#

Still need allot of them @bleak gazelle

bleak gazelle
bleak gazelle
faint wigeon
prime compass
pastel kayak
#

Who doing w1 dungeon before I nap?

#

I am in cog 4 only

faint wigeon
bleak gazelle
#

it's a struggle notlike

#

maybe i should throw it in a linked post

#

maybe just have the first 3 in that one and then link to the full post?

#

that's a good size Thonk

keen crag
#

the hole is so damn complex

faint wigeon
#

well I might still sometimes copy paste the big message, to scare them a little tho grumblo_steal

#

but ig yeah a link is a good idea x)

faint wigeon
bleak gazelle
# keen crag the hole is so damn complex

Hole is basically

Caverns in the Hole are unlocked based on time (by Opals placed on your Explorer)
Work on each cavern mechanic to unlock more opals
Get resources to improve buffs

#

lets gooooo

jagged silo
bleak gazelle
#

bruh, i mistime it by 1 second, what a waste

#

11k orb smh

zinc torrent
silk idol
#

he gitgud ig

prime compass
#

im friends with myself now

timid warren
#

the next upgrade is good right?

prime compass
#

im not...going to get softlocked or anything by becoming friends with myself, right? im almost curious about what happens if i send myself friend benefits

timid warren
prime compass
#

well lets see

timid warren
#

my oldest acc is friends w/ themself

#

and no one else

prime compass
#

nope, cant do it

timid warren
#

oh he patched that?

#

you cant friend urself anymore?

prime compass
#

sending friend bonuses at least

#

i just friended myself

timid warren
#

oh cool u still can

prime compass
#

i just said up above that im friends with myself

timid warren
#

how do u do that again?

opal kernel
#

Is there a good tier list out there for Exalted Stamps anywhere? Im only in w6 but im willing to hold off on using them for a while if that would be better. I used the first one i got on Crystallin because i figured it was a no brainer. But I don't want to lose long term gains for a short boost. So I haven't used any others.

prime compass
#

no clue, if you look farther up my other character didnt like log out or something?

timid warren
#

ah, u used to be able to just type ur own name

#

I just noticed the functionality to send friend request by name is gone :(

prime compass
#

you can only friend by double clicking afaik

plucky light
#

is there any "trick" to get this last evo or is it just a waiting game?

timid warren
prime compass
#

as soon as you get more than 0% chance, research

#

i just harvest all->researched

timid warren
#

and still clickable technically

prime compass
#

thats a bit much. .01% is the least ill take

#

or was it .1%

timid warren
#

.01% is the 0% render

plucky light
#

should i wait to get a lower average growth time?

timid warren
#

I did it w/ way higher

prime compass
plucky light
#

i see, thanks

timid warren
prime compass
#

"lower average time" me doing it with like 20 minutes

timid warren
#

omniphau gaming

prime compass
#

i would've thought someone would get it by then, im only at gold bits and ive long since gotten it

timid warren
timid warren
#

green red purple blue

prime compass
#

whats the question there?

timid warren
#

wtf is gold bits

prime compass
#

is that green? idk im colorblind

#

i thought it was white->gold->red->purple

timid warren
opal kernel
#

there is a colorblindness that makes green look like gold?

timid warren
#

I think

opal kernel
#

does that mean christmas is just gold and red for you?

timid warren
opal kernel
#

Yeah it was at the time

#

That was like 2 years ago tho

#

Now you could probably get it as a trade for cheaper

prime compass
#

30 dollars GuyMontag

opal kernel
#

I thought about trading it for some pets I dont have

#

but idk which pet would be most worth it

prime compass
#

well anyways, back to it. i am only at green bits, nowhere near red, and i've had chemical plants for quite some time

opal kernel
#

I'm only at green bits too. Probably because I'm super behind in everything since I pushed really quickly to w5 and then w6 about 2 years ago. Then quit until like 1 and a half weeks ago.

prime compass
#

it seems like im going to be at green forever, im at hundreds of billions, and i see trillions

#

and quadrillions

opal kernel
#

oh i only get like 100 green bits everytime i harvest

vivid cipher
opal kernel
#

😒

prime compass
plucky light
vivid cipher
#

Gonna need to be lower then

plucky light
#

yea i figured

vivid cipher
#

When you start pallete on gonna want kitsune on as well

plucky light
#

yea i got that covered

#

what mechanic should i focus on to get better gaming? i heard farming is effective, but im not sure how

#

besides the extra bits from crops

vivid cipher
#

Well farming gives you mainly gaming evo (which is just the chance for plants to evolve into a higher tier)

#

But in terms bits multi it's from other shit

#

Bravery, nugget, snail, acorn, etc

#

Not at home so I can't check IT to see all of them but those what I can think off top of my head

#

From what I remember my biggest multi is coming from nugget and that one is just an RNG fest

plucky light
#

these right?

vivid cipher
#

Yeah

#

So like I thought, nugget and snail are your best multis both of which are rng and time gated

plucky light
#

love to see it

prime compass
#

did you get the legend talent for shovel?

plucky light
#

yea

vivid cipher
#

Bravery should be higher though, it's a decent source since it's a multi and not additive

plucky light
#

yea im working on it

vivid cipher
#

There is also a w7 vial iirc that gives a bit multi

plucky light
#

usually do it once a week to stack the reward multi

plucky light
vivid cipher
#

No point waiting a week you just do it every 4.8 apparently

#

But that's outdated so not sure what the multi is with w7 stuff

plucky light
#

i see

vivid cipher
#

@simple wadi would probly know

plucky light
#

is a higher multi gonna help get to this last evo more effectively than bit speed? i dont quite understand how if that's the case

vivid cipher
#

Nope the multi just helps your bit gain

#

If you want the higher evos you need farming

plucky light
#

i see

#

what part of farming helps with that?

vivid cipher
#

That's why most people say don't bother with gaming evos till you finish farming cause it's basically impossible other wise

#

The farming crop depot reward guy

plucky light
#

i see

hollow igloo
#

Whats the best class/cards for farming rare materials like hampters?

prime compass
vivid cipher
#

Once you get 280 crops achieved you get a really high gaming evo rate

vivid cipher
#

Until you get it

prime compass
#

yeah, thats what they are trying to do

vivid cipher
#

Oh then yeah you don't need anything

#

Just farm a whole thing of crops, chance at it rinse repeat until you get it

#

The odds never get good so you brute force like omni artifacts

prime compass
#

GuyMontag yeah, thankfully i didnt have to wait too long. i didnt realize i could've possibly be stuck without it until red bits tho

vivid cipher
#

If you're afk/candy I'm not sure it matters

vivid cipher
frank shore
#

why am i not gaining atoms even though my stacks are all sitting at 1050m

#

and actively printing

vivid cipher
#

You are it's just only every hour its not constant

#

If it's slow gains then you need better prints

bleak gazelle
# vivid cipher But that's outdated so not sure what the multi is with w7 stuff

How do I increase my Monument multi? What multi should I be waiting for?
The reward multi simply exists to not punish you for failing to attempt a Story Telling Run every 20 hours on cooldown. The multi increases at 0.05/hr - thereby allowing you to do 1 run at 20 hours. Initially, it will keep this pace up to 48 hrs for a multi of 2.4x (see below re: additional time bonuses). After this point, the rate drops considerably so it is recommended that you don't wait beyond this point.

The Engineer schematic 'Max Monument Rewards' increases the initial limit from 48 hrs (2 days) to 96 hrs (4 days) for all Monuments.
Justice, specifically, has an additional extension through Bolaia, the Librarian - adding an additional 14 days (336 hrs) only to Justice.
Gaming Duperbit 'Monument Infimulti' adds an additional 10 days (240 hrs) to all Monuments.
Legend Talent 'Best Story Ever Told' increases the time limit by 150 hrs while applying a 2.5x factor to the displayed value.

With all additional bonuses combined, you can delay up to 20.25 days for a bonus multi of 60.75x on Bravery/Wisdom or 34.25 days for a bonus multi of 102.75x on Justice.

Notably, it may be worth waiting for the W7 Meritocracy bonus which adds an additional x factor (dependent on your Meritocracy % bonus) to the reward multi -- though there is no guarantee it'll show up as a voting option in a relevant time nor will it win the vote for any given week.

TL:DR - no need to chase reward multi, just do Story Telling before you hit your relevant cap

frank shore
#

i swear it was 9.98k hours ago

vivid cipher
jagged silo
#

more bean

bleak gazelle
#

it's every 10m resource past your threshold for 1 atom
-# you can also turn collider off, it works automatically past 1050m

frosty cipher
#

Hi

vivid cipher
frosty cipher
#

Hi chat hello people!!! πŸ‘‹happy @jagged silo @frank shore @bleak gazelle

bleak gazelle
#

early account/hole progression favors more runs (maximize opals and other bonuses to help you progress), but as long as you're doing it before you stop getting linear returns, you're technically fine

jagged silo
#

time to upgrade day market

prime compass
#

one of these players is not like the others sus

vivid cipher
#

The spelunking grind has begun

#

Gonna be at that spot a while, need 1.1b of those for vial πŸ™ƒ

prime compass
#

Pog i unlocked the last? entry in the tome. highest leveled spelunker

#

only 9k more points to hit top 25% Grumblo_Pray

vivid cipher
#

You're gonna be stuck at that one for a while which sucks

#

Exp doesnt kick in till the 3rd spelunking spot

prime compass
#

is the top x% thing like weekly o something? i added 1 50% to the gallery, and just claimed another from tome

vivid cipher
#

Don't be like me and spend hrs there for 20kxp/h lmao

#

You get another one every month I believe

prime compass
#

so i have to stay here for 3 more months?

vivid cipher
#

I believe if you move up it'll give you a tag immediately

frank shore
#

why didn't my forge refill my marble ore?

vivid cipher
#

Probably cause you ran out of marble ore

frank shore
#

looks out to me

vivid cipher
#

Did you claim an afk gain? It only refills then

frank shore
#

yeah i've been switching between my characters doing prints

vivid cipher
#

Hmm weird it should refill then. Or it is refilling but the amount isnt being progressed enough to change it from 68m

frank shore
#

no i mean

#

my forge was empty

vivid cipher
#

Ohhhhhh

#

Yeah if it completely empties it wont refill it

#

It only refills if theres spots of ore in the forge and ore in storage

#

The automation arm is good at lying to us

#

Which also doesnt collect anvil materials, it only does it on the 1st person you check πŸ™ƒ

prime compass
#

and it doesnt deposit ingots into storage

vivid cipher
#

Automation arm QoL when?

#

Skip w7 pt2 fix w3 first happytroll

prime compass
#

it might be awhile till we get anything he is "removing anything bad and only adding good things"

vivid cipher
#

No more shit like infinite in endless summoning... have mercy on us Lava

prime compass
#

this just in. spirit locks where you have to complete the requirements in order from first to last character

#

and if you dont, it resets

vivid cipher
#

I could see him doing that

prime compass
#

and its older brother, complete it in some order that isnt shown, but exists

vivid cipher
#

Would suck ass but it would be funny

prime compass
#

god i have this protein bar sitting at my desk that is just the worst. it tastes like i just threw up, and smells like latex gloves

#

its supposed to be salted caramel pepesob

#

sorry that was random, but its been bothering me for a week now, and i havent had anyone to say it to, and i just smelled it and discovered the "smells like latex" thing

iron mesa
#

Or sand

prime compass
#

the other flavors were alright, but this one is offensive to me

tender swallow
#

how do I unlock the justice monument in W5?
I just got to justice yesterday and the monument tells me to "swap to a different character for 1 hour and then come back, ive tried swapping to all of my characters and coming back after an hour ive even tried leaving it for multiple hours while i grind masterclasses and for some reason it just unlock for me.
is it just a bug or am a doing something wrong?

zinc torrent
#

Are you leaving your character at the monument for one hour?

tender swallow
#

no

bleak gazelle
#

lol

tender swallow
#

should I be

bleak gazelle
#

do you remember how you unlocked bravery? Classic

tender swallow
#

yeah

#

i afked at it for an hour or sum

bleak gazelle
#

it's the same method for all monuments

tender swallow
#

oh

zinc torrent
#

Yes, you leave him on that map and swap to another character for an hour

tender swallow
#

i feel dumb

bleak gazelle
#

trust me, you're not alone PepeLaugh

tender swallow
#

I guess idleon player really dont know how to read

bleak gazelle
#

ayo 2 new max cogs Pog

plucky light
prime compass
#

i think you mean it took too long GuyMontag red bits

#

i cant even begin to picture how long that will take me, unless pallete really ramps things up

plucky light
#

well tbf i didnt rlly brute force it until now

crimson sorrel
jagged silo
jagged silo
crimson sorrel
jagged silo
crimson sorrel
#

Get everything to 5b or 10b cost

jagged silo
#

not that good

torn geode
#

am i not allowed to control myself in the dawg den from the cavern? is it ''auto' only?

frank shore
#

what is best mob to farm lucky lad? been at it 3 days and haven't got one on the vman

jagged silo
crimson sorrel
jagged silo
crimson sorrel
#

My is only 150b

jagged silo
#

nuh

#

study and jar

crimson sorrel
jagged silo
crimson sorrel
torn geode
#

thanks

crimson sorrel
#

@jagged silo I reached w5 with ac

dense glen
#

Anyone else having trouble with their 10th character causing the game to crash?

zinc torrent
dense glen
zinc torrent
#

What platform you playin on? Could try swapping to web or what not and try

dense glen
frosty cipher
#

@vivid cipher hi happy

crimson sorrel
#

New colour unlocked happytroll

mental aurora
#

someone have a doubler fight setup for summoning? got 30

opal kernel
#

Is there a good tier list out there for Exalted Stamps anywhere? Im only in w6 but im willing to hold off on using them for a while if that would be better. I used the first one i got on Crystallin because i figured it was a no brainer. But I don't want to lose long term gains for a short boost. So I haven't used any others.

quartz tide
#

How does one get super high Roid Raging, Swift Steppin, and Stable Jenius bubbles? When I look at other people's IT, they are 50K + while mine is 2k. Is this all from KattleKruk? As far as I know, you can't candy click anymore.

opal kernel
#

thx. i saw one on a reddit post but it was from months ago and didnt know if it was still the best. I started with the crystal one because it was most obvious.

opal kernel
mental aurora
#

carry cap is good, kruk

opal kernel
#

saw someone with 1000+ levels per day. Unless it was fake

mental aurora
#

kruk stamp alchemy bubble prisma probably

#

some people get lucky hitting kruk stamp 100+ levels

waxen willow
#

Question about sneaking:

is it worthwhile to increase sneak/jade gain.

or at a point do i need to not and just save?

like should i be rushing each Jade Emporium upgrade, and not spending jade on anything bar them?

or should i be upgrading things, is there a guide/chart to help the order i should do things?

quartz tide
#

AHh I see, it's a mix of SZenith and the Stamp + the Alchemy bubble

shadow lynx
mental aurora
#

get zenith to max asap to unlock all the bubble variants

zinc torrent
waxen willow
mental aurora
#

thats my fight setup for 30 doublers if any one needs one

zinc torrent
crimson sorrel
#

That was close

timid warren
#

this is gonna get pretty dang good huh

#

I got another one dope

tiny atlas
#

@crimson sorrel my damage has officially left the stat screen

timid warren
#

ok sovereign was easier than I expected so far

vivid cipher
#

Even omni is easy until you get up to the later ones

tiny atlas
timid warren
vivid cipher
#

Omni fury and crystal steak was a bitch for me

tiny atlas
#

i cant get omni lantern been trying for a while

#

0.15% chance

timid warren
#

its slow but ramping has begun

vivid cipher
#

From spelunking yeah

vivid cipher
#

Trying to get the rest of the lanterns now

#

Really want summoning bonus to omni

timid warren
#

dammit my infinite star signs caught up again

#

I gotta actually do my star signs again soon

#

bright side: green star signs

tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

You should be doing them ye star signs are crazy good

tiny atlas
#

neglect ur star signs twin

timid warren
#

just bc u said that im getting the 7th w4 star sign rn

vivid cipher
#

Neglecting free bonuses? As a f2p? This guy new around here?

tiny atlas
#

been playing a whole year and did my star signs last month Grumblo_Pray

#

theyre annoying

timid warren
#

not that bad

vivid cipher
#

Doesnt matter that's part of the f2p struggle

#

You gotta do everything to keep up

timid warren
tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

And star signs aren't that bad tbh endless summoning is worse

timid warren
#

like td I didnt do till I could easily get 60 on all the ones I unlocked

timid warren
vivid cipher
#

Gaming/farming lot worse than star sign

tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

Especially early game farming, that shit sucks

vivid cipher
tiny atlas
timid warren
#

forgot I need to get megacrit for that one

timid warren
timid warren
vivid cipher
#

Bro hates blue soul and orange souls lmao

tiny atlas
timid warren
timid warren
tiny atlas
tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

Where the breezy souls at doe πŸ‘€

timid warren
#

but thats like +6 base value to all bonuses from td

tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

Tbf you just get td levels up for souls, the MSA bonuses aren't that good

#

Since they're additive

tiny atlas
#

exactly

vivid cipher
#

So unless you're a tome enjoyer yeah they're pointless after a bit

tiny atlas
#

i probably need to work on my tome pretty sure i can get 10% if i do

timid warren
#

WHERE is it

vivid cipher
#

I'm still trying to finish off w7 before I bother with tome

#

Wiki will show/tell you the spots

zinc torrent
vivid cipher
#

That's in the town right?

#

Isnt that in the lava by the docks or something

timid warren
#

nvm I dont see it

prime compass
#

basically all of the world hubs make you go as far as possible in one direction or another

timid warren
#

wtf

vivid cipher
#

It's either by the docks or on other side of map

timid warren
vivid cipher
#

I coulda swore it was on the dock

prime compass
#

i accidentally found that one, by clicking around moving on the display table

vivid cipher
#

Ah the artifacts

#

Been a bit since I did star signs

prime compass
#

i got all of the hub star signs out of the way to make it easy on myself

#

"easy"

#

thankfully the mega crit star sign will be stupid easy, since 200%+ is my base crit on everyone

vivid cipher
#

None of the star signs are hard thankfully. just time gated on some

#

Like the giants in w6

#

Wonder what w7 star signs will look like

waxen willow
vivid cipher
#

Probably stuff for spelunking

tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

Fuck party dungeons but the extra flurbos from gambit makes it way less annoying

tiny atlas
#

im so close to being done with dungeons forever i got emperor rings on everyone and all talents maxed just these missing

#

two tiers of weapons on the upgrade and a run on each class

vivid cipher
#

Having to do party dungeons on a non DB... gross

tiny atlas
vivid cipher
#

Where the carries at 🀣

#

AC is good yeah lot of the other classes suck

timid warren
#

I dont have the talent

prime compass
#

just...get it

timid warren
#

some of us dont have infinite supplies of dungeon entries

#

I get enough for 1 week every 2 weeks atm

zinc torrent
#

Keep this reset or try again?

timid warren
#

I have better things to spend gems on

tiny atlas
prime compass
crimson sorrel
tiny atlas
timid warren
#

or 1 2x prayer run w/ the happy hour

tiny atlas
#

just saves some time

timid warren
crimson sorrel
#

When will I get to onyx coral statue

tiny atlas
#

u go all in instead

#

pretty much gambling

prime compass
#

pet that gives infinite dungeon passes, when?

#

calling it like Mr. Potato or something idk

timid warren
tiny atlas
timid warren
#

no fucking way im doing w1 party dungeon 100 times or even 20 times

alpine rune
#

Been 8 hours and I’m still in tdpaimoncookienomLife

pastel kayak
#

Got a new relic and leveled it too today @alpine rune @crimson sorrel

alpine rune
#

Up side is in on wave 200

pastel kayak
#

2nd last one got today

alpine rune
#

W mew u might actually finish before meGuyMontag

ebon temple
timid warren
#

just so I dont have to stay in gen chat

pastel kayak
alpine rune
timid warren
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
#

Which wave u on

alpine rune
timid warren
# timid warren

Im gonna assume when in doubt snapshot on vman and only check on vman @ebon temple

alpine rune
crimson sorrel
#

Is ur tower 125+

ebon temple
timid warren
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
#

@pastel kayak got the yellow one to omni today

zinc torrent
#

Exp was same on vman and my dk for me

ebon temple
timid warren
crimson sorrel
#

Maybe poision is 124

alpine rune
timid warren
alpine rune
#

It’s ok man you’ll get there

crimson sorrel
timid warren
#

I only got the first 3 to 100+ so far

alpine rune
#

Poisonic 114
Voidinator 50

timid warren
#

I wont td till 50+ towers prob

crimson sorrel
jagged silo
#

new slab

alpine rune
crimson sorrel
ebon temple
crimson sorrel
#

I am going to get as guide say to 120+

alpine rune
jagged silo
#

finally can go out jail

alpine rune
jagged silo
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
ebon temple
crimson sorrel
signal herald
#

should i complete all the quests on all my characters or is just on one fine?

alpine rune
timid warren
#

oh cool this moron hit 1tril dmg

crimson sorrel
#

And get some negative dmg sad

crimson sorrel
timid warren
alpine rune
#

Ion think I’m beating 200

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199 seems to be my limit

crimson sorrel
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U can do it don't give up

alpine rune
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1200T hp is crazy

crimson sorrel
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Go to time limit

alpine rune
timid warren
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the final star sign I get for today

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so ill have all but 1 star sign w4 and 5

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Dont ask how tf im getting stevo div there w/o candy

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apparently he just had like 90% map progress(I think its how I leveled him was leaving him to rot somewhere in w5)

oblique heron
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hello

crimson sorrel
oblique heron
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where is my glunko

alpine rune
crimson sorrel
timid warren
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you meant OUR glunk right? @oblique heron

alpine rune
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Poisonic dmg is to slow tho

frosty cipher
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@vivid cipher hi happy

alpine rune
crimson sorrel
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I am puting points in symbol

timid warren
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Cant believe norus would do me dirty like that

jagged silo
crimson sorrel
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
alpine rune
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Now I just needa do w6 and w7 tdDead

jagged silo
crimson sorrel
zinc torrent
alpine rune
timid warren
# jagged silo

The buble is talking to me, as one of the 3 yes 3 idleon readers

swift ridge
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guys I feel soooo dumb I have been active farming for almost 2 days now at worms to get the 3 statues to zenith form when I got 1 of them to 1m statues it turned into a zenith cluster sad is there any faster way to to get that 1m back without having to re active farm for 2 days?

ebon temple
crimson sorrel
crimson sorrel
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If Start from beginning

alpine rune
zinc torrent
ebon temple
swift ridge
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
swift ridge
ebon temple
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finally got this...

oblique heron
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pro

alpine rune
crimson sorrel
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Is 215 dr is good for zenith w5 or w6 statue

oblique heron
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took me a couple days active farming w5 statues

alpine rune
normal lagoon
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The Ballot vote is bugged, right? I'm not crazy? It has been 34/33/33 for nearly 2d now.

zinc torrent
alpine rune
jagged silo
zinc torrent
alpine rune
crimson sorrel
timid warren
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I doubt I can do 200 yet but this is funny

timid warren
jagged silo
crimson sorrel
timid warren
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NEW MEASURER BONUS!

normal lagoon
normal lagoon
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I have to assume Lava's done something, or it's bugged.

timid warren
normal lagoon
timid warren
normal lagoon
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Yeah exactly.

timid warren
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thats worth angering the w6 pushing to w7 players right?

crimson sorrel
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Hell yeah happytroll

alpine rune
twin nacelle
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Im not in late game I just wana know what going on here

oblique heron
timid warren
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this doesnt exist yall have been mass hallucinating

zinc torrent
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KpK useful for pretty much anyone pushing any world... plus those that need gmush kills or deathnote, or rift...

normal lagoon
crimson sorrel
normal lagoon
timid warren
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but have insane base for ur dmg

crimson sorrel
alpine rune
normal lagoon
timid warren
normal lagoon
tiny atlas
normal lagoon
crimson sorrel
jagged silo
timid warren
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that multi is only truly useful on gmush kills, rift, and w5-6 pushers

crimson sorrel
timid warren
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w4 players wont have enough base kpk for it to matter

normal lagoon
jagged silo