lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[normal lagoon]

30 is beyond egregious TBH

[jagged silo]

time to sleep

gn

[normal lagoon]

Hell I'd be fine with the miniboss being removed for 6 tickets

[jagged silo]

2es lvl is tough

[normal lagoon]

I just want the stupid medallions man

[dire cedar]

if he did that, he'd absolutely need to make the recipes dropped from the minibosses like 5x easier though. which i also think he should do

[cloud glade]

then the only way to get ww medalions would be the natrual spawns? so like 4-6 tries a month?

[frank shore]

bruh i am HARD salt locked lol

[oblique heron]

ww chest medalions

[normal lagoon]

I'm referring to the colo chest medallions

[dire cedar]

he could make the ww medallions for minibosses a guarantee if he did remove them from the colo and the other things we said that'd make it work pretty easily

[normal lagoon]

Having to pay 30 per attempt for chest medallions is highway robbery

[north socket]

what does this do

[normal lagoon]

DB bones. There's later crystals for Dust and Tachyon too

Er, jewels, whatever

[crimson sorrel]

Wtf 😭

[normal lagoon]

Do we know exactly how many enemies are in each Colo btw?

Like the exact number

[crimson sorrel]

Count it

[ornate zephyr]

use dk orb to count for you

[crimson sorrel]

1 by 1

[normal lagoon]

I kinda need it beforehand

[crimson sorrel]

Why

[normal lagoon]

It's funny, I was literally gonna type "Polar, why tf do you need this info?" and I was gonna respond with 4 words: "Top of the Morning".

[crimson sorrel]

Just do col some 1.5 min before daily reset

And get to chest at daily

[normal lagoon]

I have 2200+250, so 2450 TotM/day

That should be enough for at least 2 colos, right?

[frosty cipher]

https://imgur.com/gallery/MEdD2X7

[frosty cipher]

enjoy this beautiful storytelling

[crimson sorrel]

Ur daily life

[normal lagoon]

Okay legit, I fucking hate when liquids do that

Idc to know the science behind it, I just want it to stop

[crimson sorrel]

It is surface tension of liquid

[normal lagoon]

Well tell it to stop

[crimson sorrel]

Touch both glass and it will stop that

Dont put liquid in air

[normal lagoon]

I feel like I've had cups touch and it would still attempt to do that

[crimson sorrel]

It need touch to transfer safely

Then it ur skill issue

[normal lagoon]

Clearly

[crimson sorrel]

Use funnel

Or bottle

If you do it in one go it don't happens it is just basic fluid mechanics

[oblique heron]

🤓

[carmine hill]

that doesnt sound right, u just need to tilt it more lol

[crimson sorrel]

U just have to tilt it fast if you don't slow it gonna spill

[normal lagoon]

Whelp, 3 left but I'm gonna wait for the daily to tick over just in case cuz I just did 3/4/5

[carmine hill]

but it doesnt need to touch ;p

[carmine hill]

whats that?

[ornate zephyr]

so close yet so far to +1 slab

[normal lagoon]

Medallions

[oblique heron]

also gallery

[normal lagoon]

Thank you Easter bundle

No idea how tf I'm getting these 4 though

[ornate zephyr]

plasti doug was the shovel in summer event yes or yes?

[normal lagoon]

Wouldn't know since I've only been here since October

Lol I just realized I did the colos with my normal bow instead of Tempest bow (and rings) Whoops.

[ornate zephyr]

wot to use on?

[oblique heron]

gmush

[dire cedar]

i had 8 w6 boss fights i could do lol. didnt think about them til i ran out of ribbons to make the armour for one of my guys

[ornate zephyr]

1000 total needed

950 for armor sets and 50 for tab 7

[dire cedar]

holy shit i got my first emperor obol

[ornate zephyr]

sampling only obol

[frank shore]

where do i find these gifts

[oblique heron]

woodular circles where tuff ngl

[red rapids]

hey was today weekly reset?

[crimson sorrel]

@oblique heron what was td time limit

[red rapids]

3 hours iirc

[red rapids]

once you reset, if you bought that it will show you the gift you can choose from when starting the next round

[normal lagoon]

Everyone's weekly reset is different, but there's some things that are kinda global irrelevant of your weekly reset, like Exotic Market and Chip Repo/Jewel Spinner:

[frank shore]

oh... i swear i've bought it every time and i don't ever see a gift lol

[late mortar]

How do I get more crop Evo from my rank pts spending? What's best to get?

[crimson sorrel]

Then i can do this

[crimson sorrel]

Bottom left

[red rapids]

if you bought it there should be one. my first gift was a beach ball. it usually lets you pick the gift before you start the 2nd round

[ornate zephyr]

@oblique heron gib your 💳 so we can do some 🐳

[late mortar]

The ultra boost? Is it really that effective? I just need the last 2 colors of glassy

[frank shore]

do you get it after doing this or is it a different option

[red rapids]

yah if you bought one before that would be the 'end round' button

[crimson sorrel]

Then get 100k of each medal crop

[frank shore]

yeah ok idk why i haven't seen them then

[ornate zephyr]

the 3rd thing on this bar are the gifts

[red rapids]

oh you do have a gift then. that big ol chunk of meat

[ornate zephyr]

that big meat is the gift

[frank shore]

oh

[late mortar]

I did. I have every medal crop at 100k and still 0.5% chance

[crimson sorrel]

.5 is alot

I get glassy even on .1

[late mortar]

Not when u don't even get it.

[crimson sorrel]

Just spam it

[late mortar]

Me too. Farmed 3 or for at 0.1

[late mortar]

I am. But after that it's just 0.0

And I need the last color fully. All crops

And I'm at purp oj slices

[frank shore]

when does it trigger

[crimson sorrel]

Then try putting point in land rank maybe that help

[ornate zephyr]

whenever you buy this upgrade

[late mortar]

Huh?

[frank shore]

oh

[crimson sorrel]

The bottom left is give most evo from landrank

[frank shore]

just been pushing mega flesh things lol

[late mortar]

Yeah,and I asked if it's really the most effective

Cause there's the up left most which gives evo per land rank

[oblique heron]

@ornate zephyr

[red rapids]

bubba takes a LOT longer than the other 2 to get rolling

[ornate zephyr]

where you get

[frank shore]

ahh

[crimson sorrel]

Put some points in land rank one and more in bottom one

[oblique heron]

the guy who wrote bubba guide is on 10th flesh rn

[crimson sorrel]

It is not possible

[late mortar]

I'm on 5th working towards my 6th

[frank shore]

an hour at tremor wurms... reeee

[red rapids]

also 5th

[oblique heron]

yeah i was wrong 🥲
only 9th #endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[late mortar]

Ayyy

[red rapids]

afk? or active?

[frank shore]

active

[red rapids]

oh no... thats not good

[crimson sorrel]

Try asking evo setup in w7 channel they maybe have the landrank setup I don't have it currently I will reset next week

[frank shore]

only 1 gfood stack rn and it's the nomwhich

[red rapids]

may want to get him to 500 at least for the extra points, whats your max library level?

[late mortar]

I'll try,thx

[frank shore]

190 i think

[red rapids]

and you maxed the statue, rang, wave, and mongorang ?

[oblique heron]

🤷🏻‍♂️ IT doesn't list sources

[crimson sorrel]

I am also at 5

[red rapids]

ayyyyyyyyyyy

i havent got to smoker yet D:

[oblique heron]

can't you push to mf 6 rn?

[crimson sorrel]

I don't have enough of time things

[oblique heron]

i mean with gifts on max happines

[crimson sorrel]

Just don't wanna do it

[red rapids]

get your words of.. power(?) up to 180, and then just generally increase your stuff. so statue, mongorang, orb, wave, and the fist all should be as high as you can get

[ornate zephyr]

am on 6th mega

[blazing locust]

For Divinity, should I focus on unlocking gods first or just leveling first? Trying to decide between throwing everyone on Mantra or keeping everyone on Focus. Only in the Lv10-15ish range on everyone right now.

[red rapids]

!div

dang lol

[ornate zephyr]

check 📌 for a guide

[frank shore]

which one is words of power

[ornate zephyr]

"Fus ro Dah"

[teal yacht]

I have just started w6, got void gear on my main pusher. What should i get my alts? they currently got amarok with w4 stones.

[red rapids]

NEW TO W5: (DIVINITY) (My opinion)

All Characters go on Divinity!
Yes, this is annoying, but toss everyone on divinity, take a quick break until you get bear (arctic) god.
You can be active on 1 char, preferably after bear
(If you only have 7 alts, get to at least 8 or better 9+, more alts will help a ton)

Divinity Notes:

• You can unlink your gods twice per your weekly reset
• Unlocking a new god will reset your unlink count
• When Unlinking, you must click all alts you want to unlink at the same time in the UI, then hit the unlink button.
• When trying to unlock gods, there's 2 options, a lower % and higher %. Each failed roll has a chance to change these %
• Safest bet is to use the lower % (left) until a 100% shows up on the right and go for that
• Once you have Yellow Alch bubble 24 (Chance to not consume div points) it may be more efficient to always use the lower % one. (optional)

**TO DO: Place all characters on divinity altar. **

• At Level 5 Divinity: Change stance to Chakra
• At Level 10 Divinity: Change stance to Focus (Stay on Focus until core gods are unlocked)

GOAL: Unlock Gods, you care about divinity points, not really XP. The only time divinity points will be better than Focus (level 10) will be Zen (level 60) and Mindful (level 80).
Even if you aim for XP through XP stances like Mantra (level 15) or Vitalic (level 25), you will not get to level 60 in time for the main gods you want (with your current low XP multipliers). Therefore you will be more than halving your points/gods progress for no proper reason.
Check what each god unlocks here: https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity

GUIDE - A step by step: While keeping the above in mind!
Your gameplay changes once you unlock Bear (Arctic), Insect (Nobi) and Goat (Goharut).

[frank shore]

where is the weekly boss guide at for W2

[red rapids]

welp, that didnt let me link the post. sorry about that

[late mortar]

Does 0.0% still has a chance for a new crop?

[frank shore]

ty

[red rapids]

the bottom right, its words of something

oh sorry, its called Symbols of Beyond ~R

[frank shore]

i did the first one in the picture, do i reset and do the 2nd one now ?

oh i only have that skill at lvl 1

[oblique heron]

why does IT have different numbers in spelunking and mcs optimezers

[ornate zephyr]

cause IT sucks

[oblique heron]

bro upvoted himself

[red rapids]

i want that hat!

but... i dont have enough trophies lol

[frank shore]

if they're all OG i need to farm them so they can evolve right

[ornate zephyr]

1% dmg multi, preety mid

[red rapids]

it looks cute though

[ornate zephyr]

best thing about it is extra hat rack multi

[frank shore]

i need a fk ton more drop chance or what so i can get faster gfoods

[bleak gazelle]

more dr, more crystal chance, more talent levels

[frank shore]

how do i see my crystal chance

[ornate zephyr]

also ac double g-food buff

[frank shore]

should i be farming the wurms with my AC instead of DK?

[frank shore]

wait where do i get that

[oblique heron]

this is not true

[ornate zephyr]

tesseract

[dire oracle]

Is this spice setup still legit or has the best one changed quite a bit?

[oblique heron]

that's pretty far into ac

[red rapids]

do you have the AC masterclass? its pretty deep in their book

[frank shore]

ah, i'm not very far in AC, stuck on poops/sandy pots

[oblique heron]

i use the last setup 🤷🏻‍♂️

[red rapids]

i also use the last setup

[frank shore]

holy cow, not sure what i did, but my AC went from like 1b dmg to 5.3b lol

do you still use melee weps for AC?

[bleak gazelle]

if you want alchemy progress via CC, yes
if you want to maximize your crystal drops (gfood/statues), then stick to DK

[frank shore]

wait and i don't even have my gfood on

[pastel kayak]

Just made another set from rhat and alsmot done another @bleak gazelle

[frank shore]

liar whoever checkmarked me

[dire oracle]

awesome, tysm!

[red rapids]

i mean, depends on what you want to do tbh

[bleak gazelle]

it's not technically wrong, but might have been better
just depends opn what you're going for

[frank shore]

gfood, keys etc

[red rapids]

especially seeing how most your dk talents are all around 170

[bleak gazelle]

oh nice
what are you missing for the last 3?

[frank shore]

just dunno what else to do rn since i need 75m on 3 chars to go to next portal

[normal lagoon]

If you don't want CC, yes, DK is better.

[red rapids]

IMO when youre below 600lvl, CC is SUPER important so you can level the Grind Time bubble

[pastel kayak]

Critter from trading and a world 7 mat from last one secret set I need to farm dark lateens and last set I need recipe for ring

[red rapids]

obviously im biased and love my ac and the CC, but still. having grind time higher means you can get rewarded more for your efforts on pinch points like that 75m wall you hit

[red rapids]

mine is still low af

[frank shore]

jesus

how is it so high when your cap is 120

[red rapids]

it is a FREE upgrade when you CC

[normal lagoon]

Nearing The End™

[frank shore]

so i should cc

[red rapids]

unlocking caps helps

[red rapids]

what are you needing the golden hampsters for?

[oblique heron]

omg i got 2nd pedestal from somewhere

[frank shore]

i just wanted to get 10k to beanstalk it since i had like 5k or 6k already

[red rapids]

is it a 'i want to collect them to help push sailing' or are you trying to stack them at like 10k for beanstalk

[ornate zephyr]

just 🐳 on it

[bleak gazelle]

IT > Character > Stats

[red rapids]

alright people are likely going to disagree with me, but i say CC on the AC lol your dk drops arent good enough to REALLY make a difference, and doing CC is going to help you ctahc your alchemy up. sometimes you gotta let off the gas before you slam that pedal down

[prisma skiff]

whale

[bleak gazelle]

their 10k was for sailing iirc, they've been away from the game for...6-8 months?

[normal lagoon]

IMO the thing about AC is you can also be pushing Arcanist Form and CC at the same time, so that's what I do personally

[alpine rune]

I have indulged in lab jail for the last 9 hours

[normal lagoon]

Farming Stuff: DK
Alchemy/Tachyons/AC Crystal Buffing: AC

[frosty cipher]

1/10 DONE

[normal lagoon]

But I'm also in ~Mid-W6 on my AC so I have a lot of wiggle room

[ornate zephyr]

not even close to done 1/10

[normal lagoon]

They might be referring to the scarf

[frosty cipher]

Kruk armor I mean

[ornate zephyr]

i think they are talking but the armor

[timid warren]

1/4 couldrons up to the end of w6 bubbles!

[ornate zephyr]

cause they were beaching about void salts for troll sets

[frosty cipher]

10/10 kruk sets and I'm pushing W7

[red rapids]

put about 400-500 golden hampsters on each person, then it doesnt matter who you active on, every time you check on alts you can easily get sailing time

[normal lagoon]

Ah

[bleak gazelle]

weapon though

[frank shore]

true, i just need more food space lol

[ornate zephyr]

god this is so fking borring, summoning still the worst skill in the game

[frosty cipher]

In like two days

[alpine rune]

Erm I wouldn’t say allat

[ornate zephyr]

its true tho

[alpine rune]

Nah apart from alc I think u get the most bonuses from summoning

[fallow atlas]

how do I use this thing efficiently?

[frank shore]

damn CC takes forever to get back down to 0 lol

[fallow atlas]

should I not remove color of all small confusing ones? only boss?

[ornate zephyr]

im not talking about the bonuses, just the gameplay expirience

[red rapids]

at talent level 200, tentacleye takes 3 seconds off instead of 2. and at 400 it takes 4 off instead. youre being kneecapped by your max talent levels

[ornate zephyr]

i rather CC using only worship enemies than play summoning

[alpine rune]

I honk the game play of summoning is fun especially when u one shot

[crimson sorrel]

Will I be able to do it within time limit I am 1hr15min in already @ornate zephyr

[ornate zephyr]

stop the cap

[red rapids]

whats your att bars look like?

[alpine rune]

I’m not tho or I’m too deep into summoning dopamine

[red rapids]

look good. hows your CC bubble look?

[ornate zephyr]

rather you fell into a cauldron filled with copium when you were little

[frank shore]

this ?

[pastel kayak]

Main now @bleak gazelle

[ornate zephyr]

PO mana and Alchemy boxes?

[red rapids]

that bubble helps a LOT with the upkeep of CC

[alpine rune]

Nah

[oblique heron]

@ornate zephyr

[red rapids]

mine is only at 88% and its up quite a bit. but my CC is 400 and so is my tentacle

[alpine rune]

[frank shore]

bubbles just so hard to lvl

i really need to reprint a lot of things, probably take the next 8 hours tho lol

[red rapids]

i would put that toilet paper on a printer sample and level it up some more 🙂

[crimson tusk]

5/10 W1 dice1 dungeon

[dire cedar]

im finna do a dungeon for the first time in a long time lmao. when i was making gear for some of my guys in w7 i realized a few of them were missing the demented opal rings xD hopefully ill have enough currency to buy the rest i need after this is done

[little wedge]

Question how does pocket divinity work on conjuror

Does it work for every character?

[red rapids]

also, do you have the w3 equinox unlocked yet? theres a cloud in there called liquid investment that gives you 99% of your liquid overflow gets reinvested into cap and speed

[hazy atlas]

so I learned that Iw as really behind on gmush kills for the lab. so I put all my toons killing then for a few days.... im gettign so many more coins lol

[red rapids]

so you leave it on overnight and your ac just overflows the cauldrons and makes your cap much higher 😄

[frank shore]

my equinox not looking great, need to figure out how to get more bubbles lol

[red rapids]

theres a few cloud things that increase your max level of liquidvestment

[frank shore]

what does this mean

[little wedge]

What god do you recommend me to use I’m kinda new I’m on the divinity push I linked most my characters to the goat god and moved some over to lab till they hit lv 40 im thinking Nobisect would be good because I need to push all the maps with some of my characters since they kinda just got created and dumped right into divinity

[ornate zephyr]

20 min in, still borring af

[ornate zephyr]

not the orange one

[frank shore]

oh

[normal lagoon]

Why is that one orange

[frank shore]

can anyone carry me through the w2 dungeon ?

[oblique heron]

why orange

[ornate zephyr]

they have to be ulti, meaning the lvl 70 ones

[red rapids]

the orange one was me using a highlighter xD

[alpine rune]

I got 1k gems from lab yay

[red rapids]

i would if i could, not that strong sorry. i did it solo though, on my ac. took me like 30min to kill that thing

[oblique heron]

What talent lvls do i need to pass w5 comfortably on ac?

[frank shore]

oh is there no timer ?

[red rapids]

there is lol something like an hour or two

but the third snake has a bajjilion hp

[frank shore]

yeah my stats are not good for dungeons

[bleak gazelle]

candy

[red rapids]

if you can catch owl online, they may be able to help. i cant remember who ran me through, i want to say juanna? i think

[frank shore]

i've neglected my equinox lol

[red rapids]

its ok, we all did at first.. and we suffered for it lol

[frank shore]

that cogboard one gives me 3 more lvls to the liquidvestment one

i only have 1 currently lol

[red rapids]

my TD scores were terrible until i got the equinox bubble for the tower dmg boost, and even then i had to do a LOT of cog grinding to get my contruction up high enough to get the towers up to 50+ and then use the atom buff to boost dmg from any tower over 50 and yah.. it all links together lol if youre lacking dmg, you likely have to go back and level something

[alpine rune]

That’s how it goes for everyone

[red rapids]

yah you need i think its 48? purple double cogs on your board

takes a while

[frank shore]

yeah that's crazy

i gotta sit here and click every 5 seconds for cogs

[ornate zephyr]

@oblique heron

[oblique heron]

i have no idea why it increased

[red rapids]

the clouds get worse -.- 1million ladles used at once.. bobjoepickle vial to lvl 2 ... 2000 kills in a single killroy run...

[frank shore]

1 million ladles lol

[ornate zephyr]

probs this

[frank shore]

i thought i had a good amount at 3k

[red rapids]

make sure you are on an active killing map. like do your cogs while your guy is farming tremor wurms

[oblique heron]

i don't even have this unlocked

[frank shore]

ye i'm at wurms rn

[red rapids]

how far down is that!

[normal lagoon]

Speaking of Tachyons, this one is super important later on.
(Remember, it gets multiplied by Mage is Best, which is yet another reason I'm shocked that bubble isn't higher on the tier list over the one that mults 5 bubbles that are mostly for sampling)

[frank shore]

polar what are those items to upgrade that bubble

[red rapids]

gotta get to those pufferfish 😩

[normal lagoon]

W7 Pufferblobs

[ornate zephyr]

like 6 upgrades under the DB jewel

[crimson sorrel]

Not 1m it is 100k

[frank shore]

ah, not at w7 yet that's why

[red rapids]

oh my bad youre right... feels like 1mill

[normal lagoon]

For when you do get there, it's the first portal you'll unlock on the Litterfish map. (this is also the entirety of the map for W7, Part 1)

[crimson sorrel]

I am getting that like per day now lol

[frank shore]

ah ok nice

[normal lagoon]

Yeah so it's not too deep, but passing Eamsy Earl (Map 3, Right Portal) will take a hot minute.

[frank shore]

yeah i mean, i'm stuck at the 75M on 3 chars in w6 rn

[alpine rune]

Finna do w4 td

[normal lagoon]

(Reminder: 2 chars + VMan)

[frank shore]

i've got some candies that might be spent soon

all my chars are pushing rn

[crimson sorrel]

@normal lagoon do you think i can beat it in time limit I am 1.5hr in

[red rapids]

dont forget 1 of those chars can be a vman speedrun

[frank shore]

oh yeah i need to do my speedrun again

i haven't done my speedrun in a year

[normal lagoon]

I wouldn't have a clue because idk how well you handle Trillions, but probably not.

If you're already at 90m and 167T left, you probably won't be

[frank shore]

is there speedrun guide somewhere here

[normal lagoon]

I just did mine based on feels
The only "advice" I learned is that if you start inside Kruk's boss room, you start with all of W1-6 already unlocked

[frank shore]

should i change anything before i rock in there

don't i have to just go through every map?

[normal lagoon]

Uh yeah, getting your maxes up would help tremendously. Also pumping more into Talents 1-3

[ornate zephyr]

@oblique heron wot think now?

[normal lagoon]

Yes, but you can also teleport around and use Void Radius more effectively on maps that will take you awhile

[red rapids]

all my worlds are also unlocked? lol

[frank shore]

ah i need to read a guide for speedrun again, i know you gotta wait to use certain skills at certain times

[normal lagoon]

Maybe it was an older thing idk

[normal lagoon]

At some point you don't really have to, and it's only Void Radius, nothing else

Your max level is very very low though, that would be your main concern, especially on Void Run

IT, why are you lying to my face

[frank shore]

i mean, should i run it

[normal lagoon]

[ornate zephyr]

cause IT is shite

[red rapids]

theres only a daily limit so

[frank shore]

anything i should know before i go in

faster to click mobs? should i set it to auto?

this was my last run

[dire cedar]

i completely forgot this took w6 miniboos earrings. welp i got 9 persophone's whatever and 4 demented emperor rings from that dungeon run so theres that lol

[normal lagoon]

Keep in mind if you auto that he'll auto use Void Radius

But otherwise Auto is fine

Lemme go get my notes rq though

Boops have no portal
Dr defec has no portal
wood mushroom has no portal
red mushroom has no portal
giga frog does not have portal

snelbie has portal
nepteyes have portal
Bloodbones has no portal
hammer has portal
mongo worm has portal
I BELIEVE Sam Guardian has portal, but I am unsure as I've never gotten that far

Also do all bosses on Nightmare for 3x Portals and 3x the Talent 3 effect

[frank shore]

idk if my guy can do on nightmare

[oblique heron]

who is hammer

[normal lagoon]

You can definitely do nightmare on a few bosses

[normal lagoon]

W4 boss door room

[frosty cipher]

Uuuuuggghhh holy shit

[oblique heron]

stilted seeker ayo

[normal lagoon]

This is "Hammer"

Pretty much every boss door room mob has a bonus portal except W1, though W1 has the Tree and Sewers to prog through

[oblique heron]

get 2nd ring

[wet pasture]

What perk is this?

[normal lagoon]

VMan, Talent 1

[frank shore]

these are the only skills ? lol

[frosty cipher]

Why does the kruk set look most handsome

[normal lagoon]

Put your 3D Sampler on that bar

[frosty cipher]

Welcome to vman

[normal lagoon]

After you kill all the bosses you can, use Void Radius and then go sample some mobs

[frank shore]

oh, what's a good mob to sample

[normal lagoon]

3D Sampler, not Printer Go Brrr

[frank shore]

idk what i even need

[normal lagoon]

Figuring that out PRIOR to starting a VRun is huge.

[frank shore]

oh

[normal lagoon]

Also, DELETE ALL VMAN SAMPLES PRIOR TO STARTING

Sometimes the UI bugs and you can't access the 3D Printer during a VRun

Just be sure to read Talents 2 and 3, regarding Samples

[dire cedar]

danm i ran out of w7 stones to upgrade the rings i made 🙁

[frosty cipher]

What's royal sampler again?

[frank shore]

so i kill a few bosses, use void radius, then sample?

[normal lagoon]

Trash.
(A prayer to give + Sample Size)

[frank shore]

or should i go back and sample

[frosty cipher]

I keep seeing this pink sample text in all sorts of screenshots

[crimson sorrel]

@normal lagoon is this normal

[normal lagoon]

Ideally you kill all the bosses you can, then Void Radius for the bonus MK, then sample during the VRadius buff window

[frank shore]

so at the end of the run

[normal lagoon]

This is also why getting Talent 1 higher is important, to give you time to do this, cuz you may need to do multiple VRadii attacks

Since VRadius doesn't last too long and all

[frank shore]

idk what to sample lol

[normal lagoon]

But I always write out a list of notes prior to starting a run

To remind myself what I want

[frank shore]

oh yeah stamps

[normal lagoon]

15
That's cute. You never get to stop that piece of shit 🥲

[frank shore]

so should i respec for now?

[normal lagoon]

Sorry to disappoint lol

[normal lagoon]

What's your talent max at library?

[normal lagoon]

Ah.

[frosty cipher]

The curse is terrible

[oblique heron]

it's negligeble

[normal lagoon]

Overall, the most important talents for a VRun are 1, 2, 3, and 14. Talent 6 and 10 also give you some damage too.

[red rapids]

@oblique heron finally

[oblique heron]

[frank shore]

how do these look for samples

[oblique heron]

looks reasonable

[normal lagoon]

Not bad, also just look at anything you don't have at 1050m in your storage for extra things to go for

Don't worry too much about Refinery mats as your WW/BM should probably be sampling those since they specialize in nothing sample-able.

[dire oracle]

since when is this prayer bad, I'm constantly using it, should I remove it?

[frank shore]

2-5 3-1 4-3 5-4

[normal lagoon]

I mean it's bad to me; it's fine if you need the extra sample size, but make sure you actually need it before using it

[normal lagoon]

All my guys have been at 90% for awhile now, so it's literally all downside if I were to use it

[frank shore]

alright i'm gonna go in

[normal lagoon]

Write up your list, and also if you want extra portals, be sure to look at the notes I sent you

[normal lagoon]

^

[dire oracle]

oh yeah I forgot about that 90% cap

[red rapids]

how bad is w5? how many arcane kills to open doors?

[normal lagoon]

Based on the number and the bar being about halfway, I want to say Suggma is 80

[prime compass]

i really need to try and hit level 300 in tenteyecle, 273 isnt cutting it

[oblique heron]

80 but i'm missing dmg mainly ngl

[granite owl]

watch me lose this third day in a row

[normal lagoon]

300 isn't a massive jump, but 400 is. 300 gives you <2% of what 273 is giving you

[prime compass]

well then im not clearing mafioso anytime soon

[normal lagoon]

400 gives you an extra second of CDR which is massive

[normal lagoon]

Mafioso shouldn't be walling you too hard, unlike the map after it and Sandy Pots

If you're being walled by Mafioso, you might as well stop now since Pincermen will wall you harder

[prime compass]

i get 2 spawns, which leaves 4 left over when it resets

[red rapids]

pincerman will give you a brain bleed

[normal lagoon]

Work on this if you can:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xNF-LbS8__gwY0p7VzWnODD9T33nU40SWWBVWjC5QVU/edit?gid=1675099961#gid=1675099961

(also making sure you hit any possible 50-thresholds for both Arcane Crystal and Backup Energy)

[prime compass]

the problem is that half of the time, with mafioso i am left with 8 seconds on raise dead

[normal lagoon]

Also if you haven't, make sure your skill bar is in the right order. I personally do Crystal > CC > Raise Dead > Arcane/Sizzling Skull > Doesn't really matter after (my 5 and 6 are Fart and Aura)

[normal lagoon]

Yeah, higher Tent is kinda mandatory; higher Tesseract upgrade for Tent too if your upgrade isn't matching/exceeding the % of your talent

[prisma skiff]

classic overflow

[normal lagoon]

It's why AC is so insanely difficult compared to the other two

[normal lagoon]

Sorry I missed this, uh, no I've never seen that before 🥴

[oblique heron]

@ornate zephyr

[frank shore]

28 to 39

got 3/4 samples i wanted

[prime compass]

there we go, better luck and mafioso cleared

[frank shore]

does this only work in speedrun

[prime compass]

"during the speedrun"

yes

[frank shore]

the way i read it

each boss kill during the speed run makes mobs respawn 35% faster outside of speedrun

[oblique heron]

no mc upgrades left behind when

[normal lagoon]

It's also good for both samples and furthering your speedrun, while Void Radius is mostly just for samples.
I take that back, the MK actually scales really nicely for the run itself.

[frank shore]

yum

oh wtf i have skydoggies unlocked now

[normal lagoon]

"2 plus VMan"

[tough tundra]

yea the wording isn't super clear but it is only active during the speedrun

[normal lagoon]

You never even questioned me when I said that

[frank shore]

oh so i only need 2 to push?

i thought you just meant to make sure i push with vman because i need him for something

[prime compass]

🤮 this pincerman map is so disgusting

[frank shore]

so i really only need 2 lol

[normal lagoon]

When you use Void Run, it sets ALL of VMan's kills to 2m (or higher) for all portals you have unlocked on at least 1 character.

[frank shore]

ohhh

[tough tundra]

it should say "Also, each unique boss kill during a speedrun makes mob respawn +35% faster for the rest of the speedrun"

[red rapids]

oh buddy.. there is a VERY specific way you HAVE to run that map

[normal lagoon]

And that includes Multi-lock Portals if you met the requirements on at least 1 character

[red rapids]

if your numbers are off even a teeeeeny bit youre phuckeedd

[frank shore]

so whats the best thing to do with these guys then?

since i don't need to push lol other than 2 chars

[normal lagoon]

@frank shore TL;DR: You should NEVER be "pushing" as VMan since he opens portals for free. The only time you AFK kill on VMan is for two reasons:

1. He's MMan and you need 12m GMush kills
2. Class EXP

[red rapids]

hole.. lab.. div.. grinding tremor wurms for golden hamps

[frank shore]

div done, lab done, i could throw some people in hole

is it worth afk killing tremors?

[normal lagoon]

VMan's good fodder for Monument Respect if he's not lacking in skills

[normal lagoon]

Ehh...

[prime compass]

well i got 1 spawn of pincermen

[frank shore]

could defo do some skilling

[normal lagoon]

What I mean by this is the Left/Right Hands

You may not like it, but this is what peak VMan looks like 🥴
PS: Alchemy and Construction are also Left/Right Handable, but getting those above AC/DK (respectively) are nigh impossible

[dusk knoll]

what are the ways to get more daily tickets for w6 boss

[normal lagoon]

Jade Emporium gives you 1.5 per day (up from the base of 1 per day) and that's it

[dusk knoll]

tnx

[prime compass]

well i guess im leaving pincermen for 400+ talent levels

[frank shore]

ts takes forever lol

[normal lagoon]

That's also huge though

If that is what I think it is

checked the wiki
Yes it is, it's huge

Well, SLOW AS FUCK, but huge.

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-snail-adventure-time-gif-9966924

[normal lagoon]

Speaking of, MAN did I get lucky the last few days

[prime compass]

oh new nugget mult, low 4k to 5.6k

[crimson sorrel]

Playing on phone is hard i even started getting the accuracy overflow from some days

[prime compass]

6th evo hopefully that helps me get to slimy package

[normal lagoon]

(this is why "mobile" for me is streaming my PC to my phone 😆)

I despise the app because there's been nothing but issues for me and I'm worried it'll roll back some prog I've done on PC

[dire cedar]

im at 39 currently 🙁 the struggle of hitting the last one is something special. hopefully you dont have any issues in this 5 bracket

[frank shore]

should i work on this?

[normal lagoon]

Probably not.

[oblique heron]

this good prisma?

[normal lagoon]

Also @frank shore do you have 1 or 2 DBs?

[normal lagoon]

[frank shore]

1 DB and a BB

[normal lagoon]

And just to make sure you're 100% aware, you know Apoc Wow (and super chows) can only be done on DB 2 yeah?

[frank shore]

DB2?

[normal lagoon]

Your "BB"

[frank shore]

well i was gonna reclass my BB back to beginner

[prime compass]

if you have 2 of a class, the newest one takes precedent

[frank shore]

fuk

[normal lagoon]

, only for Wows and Super Chows

[crimson sorrel]

@normal lagoon what was the time limit for td

[normal lagoon]

Zow and Normal Chows are personal

[normal lagoon]

No idea. Someone said it was like 3h?

I didn't keep track though

[prime compass]

i heard around 3 hours as well

[normal lagoon]

I'm almost positive I broke 2h with no issue

You'll know you hit the time limit when the save button appears and you still have mobs left

[crimson sorrel]

Oh ty

[normal lagoon]

But I think it gives you like 10 minutes

PS: No you can't save if mobs are still alive

[crimson sorrel]

[frank shore]

yeah there's just SO much to go backtrack through

[normal lagoon]

Me when I hit W6/7 🫠

I was like early W3 prog when I got to W7

[prime compass]

wow i cant wait until i unlock this badger god, im sure ill get really useful stuff from it

[normal lagoon]

I mean, you get a new blessing at least and then you can accumulate God Rank

[frank shore]

so what should my DB do? not gonna push with him i think

i think these 2 are the ones i plan to push with

[crimson sorrel]

Now my stormcoller is fucked all I can do is depend on poisions

[normal lagoon]

DB/BB is #1 at pushing (AFK SPECIFICALLY for BB especially) btw

[dire cedar]

i finished setting up my people for killing shit, was finna start doing my daily boss kills, but got white screened. gotta love it

[frank shore]

oh so i should be pushing with my DB?

[normal lagoon]

DB is #1 because they, like every other class, gets the Class 4 "Main Stat = More KpK" talent, but Barbarian also has a chance to get double KpK

[frank shore]

but specifically afk?

[normal lagoon]

Well BB is hot doodoo for active play

DB isn't bad

[normal lagoon]

IMO it's just better to let it afk while you actively play something you want to level or farm or CC or w/e

[prime compass]

right now i get way more active kills with db than afk

[dire oracle]

is the strength of your pets mostly related to breeding level?

[frank shore]

i have 1 class respec, should i use it on my BB?

like a full respec

[north socket]

anyone got good ideas for me to multiply my dmg on w7 mobs? want to unlock multikill on pufferblobs

[normal lagoon]

and BM Talent level and egg rarity

[prime compass]

mostly egg rarity

[red rapids]

hows your first bubbles in alchemy?

[normal lagoon]

and BM Talent level

(even though IMO we should call it "BST" because of Final Fantasy but that's just me 😆)

[north socket]

like actual first one? around 2k each

[prime compass]

well yeah, but the power from the egg rarity is what that will multiply, so if you have a lower egg, you will get a lower multiplication/lower total

[normal lagoon]

❓

[normal lagoon]

they're both good

Any kind of mult is good even if it's a small mult cuz a small mult on a big mult makes big mult beeg

(Semantic Satiety on "mult" has been achieved )

[red rapids]

dont forget this guy too

[normal lagoon]

Passive

[red rapids]

well yah but still level the card up for the nice gains

[ornate zephyr]

gud setup?

[normal lagoon]

2.5m cards of a crystal
They're not even MKing Litterfish and you want them to farm 2.5m W7 Crystal cards?

[north socket]

time gated for emperor and doodlefish would take me ages to 5star and it wouldnt be enough :c

[normal lagoon]

I'm not telling you to 5 star it, I'm telling you to use the card

[red rapids]

ok fairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[normal lagoon]

PS: Fibers prayer is massive for non-MK mobs (ALWAYS be sure to check KpH to confirm when using Fibers)

[frank shore]

what the fuck

[ornate zephyr]

prisma diamond chef

[north socket]

fibers gave me another 100k kills per hour 😄

[frank shore]

bro my AC is like so far behind, i've been on poops and sandy pots for the last almost 2 days

[north socket]

isnt there one more bonus that multies everything?

[normal lagoon]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm a DChef hater

[prime compass]

thats why you should focus on unlocking afk and do otherstuff, otherwise you'll be there for alot longer

[normal lagoon]

I don't think Prismaing DChef will fix that issue

[simple wadi]

Rare chance to appear on rounds 47+

[ornate zephyr]

it will instantly lol

[red rapids]

either go gigafrogs or green beans for the 1rst currency, not sandy pots

unless you can 1 shot the pots

[normal lagoon]

$1000 it will bring 297d down to like 150d

[north socket]

round 47 is 100m hp+?

[ornate zephyr]

it will bring it to 100% within 1 sec

[prime compass]

just because it doesnt instantly fix it, doesnt mean it will basically fix it. if i didnt prisma dchef i wouldnt be where i am

[simple wadi]

Diamond Chef will get you to level 110 meals quickly, but you will be hard stuck there until you improve your other meal speed modifiers.

[frank shore]

alright i'll finish the 1k

[normal lagoon]

and I have every recipe unlocked and all pre-W7 recipes at 111 and prismaing will not fix my issue to progress them further

[ornate zephyr]

ye, but he struggles with getting to 30 and unlocking the recipes, it WILL fix his issue instantly

[prime compass]

they dont seem to be in the same situation, do they?

[red rapids]

yah buddy you should have that so you are getting arcane crystals when you afk

[normal lagoon]

300d fire issue will not be immediately fixed by Prismaing DChef which they're likely not that far on anyway

It can be fixed without dumping a permanent resource.

[frank shore]

i'll camp gigafrogs until i can kill rats

ok this is what we do for the next month

[red rapids]

dont forget to put on your ac staff

[ornate zephyr]

bro, 1 prisma diamond chef allows you to unlock all recipes within 5 sec

[frank shore]

ye i put it on lol

[ornate zephyr]

including the w7 ones

[frank shore]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[red rapids]

@oblique heron got to clams and got stuck lmao. lack of dmg, lack of accuracy

[prime compass]

using prisma on diamond chef, and using vmans blood marrow talent is basically the easiest way to clear any roadblocks up to 111. diamond chef massively speeds up cooking speeds, and then unlocking new recipe levels through other things, and boosting the blood marrow talent lets them build off eachother. im sure you could just use vmans blood marrow if you are patient enough, but i dont regret using my prisma on diamond chef

[crimson sorrel]

@normal lagoon i fuking did it

[normal lagoon]

But the points go down D:

(but also grats)

[crimson sorrel]

It took like 2.5 hr something

[red rapids]

did you sell some towers?

[crimson sorrel]

I sell some to change them to stormcoller but that don't work so i bought the poison again maybe that cause points drop

[ornate zephyr]

it just gives way too much way to quick to ever not recomend it, you'll be progressing 50x or even more slower throughout the entire game just to save 10 prisma bubbles, which wont refund the months you spent by not using them

it solves dmg, accuracy, exp, cash, skilling efficiency all the way till end w6

[frank shore]

do i always have to pickup the prisma bubbles?

[prime compass]

yes, they dont auto pickup

[frank shore]

i've done 2 bubbles so far

[prime compass]

neither do the medallions for ww

[normal lagoon]

I just don't see how ~doubling a mult (regardless of how big it is) would instantly fix the fire speed issue.

[crimson sorrel]

It somehow shows 201

[ornate zephyr]

it will go from 600 days, to -3 sec for 100%

[dire cedar]

so does this thing when you get the nametag make all the mobs harder to kill, or is that just when you are delivering the next ones?

[normal lagoon]

Unless I'm just not understanding how the thing mults regarding prisma, idk

[normal lagoon]

Only when delivering next ones, silly

It just makes each subsequent delivery harder by reducing your damage further

[ornate zephyr]

without the prisma, it would only be 1.34x multiplier per meal

[dire cedar]

do you remember how much damage was reduced on the first delivery?

[normal lagoon]

Is it 2.68x^Y (Y = meals at 11+)?

[ornate zephyr]

so you almost tripple all your speed per meal MULTIPLICITEVLY

no

[normal lagoon]

Is it 2.68Yx (Y = meals at 11+)?

[frank shore]

where is that cooking bubble

[normal lagoon]

Yellow Bubble 18

[frank shore]

ah

that's a lot of spices

[normal lagoon]

If it's Number Yx instead of Number^Y x, I don't see how it's such an exponential increase. If it's Number^Y x then it makes more sense.

[red rapids]

use the liquid tag thing to lower the cost

[frank shore]

?

oh

[ornate zephyr]

yes, you dont even need to upgrade it, 42 is way more than enough

[dire cedar]

be sure when buying the bargain tag you dont waste any liquids it caps at 90%

[frank shore]

lol even 90% not enough

[red rapids]

all i know is, i didnt even have yumi peachring yet, i had like 4-5 spices left to unlock, and i prisma'd dchef. when i got those 5 spices, i was able to instantly unlock the recipe for the rest of my meals. aprox 10 meals all unlocked in seconds

[prime compass]

yeah it removed all my roadblocks. i went from taking days or weeks for cooking new recipes to seconds

[normal lagoon]

Which is why it makes me think it's Number^Y x

Either way if it doesn't do much for Level 111+, it won't do anything for me right now 🙂

and I'd rather save the only prisma I have atm for W7p2

[red rapids]

im not sure on the math itself, but it was a huge saver. i was locked at like max 30-40. mine are all now around 80ish

if your meals are all already up there, certainly!

[prime compass]

yeah people have said even with prisma, the only thing they can really do is wait for NMLB at 111+

[ornate zephyr]

ok this setup is solid

[red rapids]

just gonna steallll that thanks

[crimson sorrel]

💀

[normal lagoon]

Okay so it's too late for me and DChef is useless, cool

Glad I didn't blow a prisma on it

[pastel kayak]

@crimson sorrel just dropped 100k gold cakes on bean stalk

[prime compass]

i never suggested that you use it, im suggesting it to the person it will benefit

[normal lagoon]

Oh I know.

[frank shore]

holy fk i need gfood

but i need to grind my 1k shards for AC

fk this game lol

[pastel kayak]

My main is more then that now

[normal lagoon]

I'm just trying to understand the math because it's clearly not Prisma Mult x DChef if you're going from "600d to instant"

[ornate zephyr]

and then they'll be glad that they made the proggress that took you months in a single day

[dire cedar]

those shards come first trust

[normal lagoon]

It didn't take me months, I just got mults elsewhere and it wasn't that bad

[crimson sorrel]

Does it only increase by 2x don't u have some gold food on dk

[red rapids]

you char looks so unattainable lol

[normal lagoon]

Hell I've only BEEN PLAYING for 3 months.

[ornate zephyr]

wot?

[normal lagoon]

Okay how about mine?

[prime compass]

i dont understand the math either, but it was basically that. it wasnt just 2/4x speed for me, it was dozens or hundreds of days, to instant

[normal lagoon]

Not even using Corsair Coat atm lol, I want my first Lv 1200

[crimson sorrel]

What is ur wave goal

[red rapids]

the fact youre only 3 months in and at this astounds me man

[dire cedar]

is that on your skilling preset?

[normal lagoon]

🙂 a lot of time and buying bundles.

[ornate zephyr]

thats littearly my first w6 worship, thought ill cap at maybe 110 if im lucky

[normal lagoon]

Nah if you got Roots to 200, you can push that pretty nicely.

[crimson sorrel]

U are using the poison and kraken at eachother place

[red rapids]

i want to do more TD but im still salty from last night when i lost 3 times in a row due to those bugged little guys

[normal lagoon]

I don't fully agree with Pancake's placement for towers though

[ornate zephyr]

idk, im not following a guide, just building whatever feels right

[normal lagoon]

I was doing this

[crimson sorrel]

That is ok do however you want and enjoy

[normal lagoon]

It's Pancake's as a base, but Polar-Modified

[frank shore]

i've ignored this til now... this is for tower defense right?

[normal lagoon]

Use those eyeballs

[ornate zephyr]

this is for construction

[crimson sorrel]

How much is ur max at w6

[normal lagoon]

Reduces the resource costs of upgrading BUILDINGS

"Buildings" =

[frank shore]

oh, all the other construction things on that page?

lmao

i fucked up then

[normal lagoon]

It's pretty vital for getting stuff at 250+ when it costs BILLIONS of a material

(Salts never get that expensive, but my 3rd and 4th shrines for example costs me like 9 digits of gold bars and 10 digits of jungle logs, PER UPGRADE)

[ornate zephyr]

casual 20 stacks of jungle logs taking up your space in storage just to upgrade a shrine once

[normal lagoon]

Preeeeetty much.

It's more like 3~4 stacks but yeah

[ornate zephyr]

still not as bad as pre-ore needed for w7 equipment

i saw those requirements and thought to myself, ye, emperor gear is gonna be enough for me

[pastel kayak]

No

[pastel kayak]

Have other gold food on main

[frank shore]

should i focus tent before more accuracy? or get accuracy to murder rats

[dire cedar]

heres what my guys have on currently

[languid mist]

You level tenteycle nostalgia to match your non-AC-mode tenteycle %. You'll eventually max it anyway as you're gonna want to distribute your purchases between whatever are the currently cheapest upgrades at any point in time.

[frank shore]

so my tent has 69%

[normal lagoon]

So pushing it slightly is kinda important yeah

[frank shore]

and AC has 62%, so just get it to 69?

[languid mist]

Yes, for now.

[normal lagoon]

(you'll get it to 70% since it's 2%/point but yes)

[languid mist]

You'll eventually improve your "normal" tenteycle as well.

[frank shore]

then don't touch it til my tent in skill tree goes up?

[normal lagoon]

Or touch it if it's very cheap for the next upgrade to unlock

[languid mist]

Basically. Or until tenteycle upgrades are the cheapest upgrades you can buy

[frank shore]

so i need to figure out how to get 200 more tent lvls in talents lol

[normal lagoon]

400 Tent is a massive breakpoint yeah

[languid mist]

More upgrades bought = better scaling for the AC talents that scale off of purchases

[frank shore]

are prisma bubbles dummy rare?

[languid mist]

And on pretty much every single AC talent since it's the one MC (right now) that benefits the most from high(er) talent levels

[prime compass]

they arent common, and they get more rare as you collect them, there is a talent and some upgrades to increase their drop odds, but it will take awhile to get enough

[ornate zephyr]

not rare, more limited

[languid mist]

Not initially, but they get kinda scarce after a while until you unlock an upgrade later on.

[frank shore]

yeah i haven't seen a bubble since my 20th

[ornate zephyr]

you can get like 30 of em easly from w7

[languid mist]

This is what I'm currently at

[prime compass]

hes not in w7, and neither am i

[oblique heron]

2nd skill in w7 will give 100 prisma bubbles

[ornate zephyr]

get there

[prime compass]

i have 350 million or so mobs between me and w7

[normal lagoon]

You can pump the upgrade to increase the chance, and much, much, MUCH later you'll get an upgrade for % of your DR to contribute to Prisma chance and then you'll quickly score like 20 more bubbles.

[frank shore]

ah

[prime compass]

the DR upgrade will be past the point you are going to get stuck at, so that wont matter for a long time

[normal lagoon]

Like I just got that DR => Prisma DR upgrade and I'm at >50Kx Extra Tachyon mult (also 3/3 in the Legend Point for daily MC cheapeners, and the Santa's Little Helper bundle -75% MC Costs)

Mid-W6, FTR

[frank shore]

got my people in hole to finish the green monument, 2 people pushing, and then AC getting the afk stones, think i'll be stuck here for a long time

[ornate zephyr]

wave 150 has breached, 07 my guys

[prime compass]

yeah i needed to get above level 200 in tenteyecle to even stand a chance at getting to pincermen, and that will definetly be a wall for you at the very least

[oblique heron]

should i move to m3 or farm out some charms first

[frank shore]

oh in AC

[normal lagoon]

Depends how comfy M2 has been

[frank shore]

yeah my AC is ZZZZ

[oblique heron]

pretty easy

[normal lagoon]

If you're getting 0% Detections, then definitely move on

Every Mastery you unlock up to (and including) M5 gets you some form of account bonus; M6/7 are slated to give bonuses but currently nothing (outside of what a higher mastery brings, and some WW Tempest Damage)

Also man I wish I could break 10k on a charm; I could in M6 but farming M6 is painge

[frank shore]

gigafrogs have arcane mobs right ?

bruh i got 6 guys in the monument and it's gonna take 152 days??

[red rapids]

depends. if you do the bravery you can get monument multipliers that cut the cost down. or i guess doubles your afk time there

so instead of claiming only 1 hour you'll get like 3

[frank shore]

the green one is the only one not at 24k hrs

[dusk knoll]

get 10-20 prisma and farm afk hours dont focus at all . will be much easier later

[dire cedar]

just finished my daily boss kills 🙂

[red rapids]

do you just have your guys farmin keys all day?

[oblique heron]

what

[dire cedar]

no? im doing that boss on normal mode currently(well for the past week) it costs 1 key so its not that much

[red rapids]

he farms something like 180 bosses a day.

[oblique heron]

that's 180 keys

[red rapids]

yah yah i assumed he was doing it on nightmare. thats my bad

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/have-you-lost-your-mind-moore-the-amateur-are-you-crazy-have-you-gone-insane-gif-983092221037211671

[oblique heron]

[frank shore]

when i get the 1k afk crystals for AC i just afk 2 hours at a time ?

[red rapids]

1 hour

[frank shore]

and what are arcane rocks

[pastel kayak]

Bad @oblique heron the trouble maker alert

[prime compass]

uou use them to gain 1 hours worth of the mc currency\

[crude drum]

I am tring to clear up some achievements. I am trying to do the siege breakers 150 count on the flag on a certain map. How does one get that if it spawns a mob once you get 100?

[frank shore]

oh

[prime compass]

so if it says "500k dust per hour" in afk screen you get 500k when you use it

[frank shore]

i see

[red rapids]

vman, top right

[frank shore]

i need to get AFK on my DB and my WW too after this

[prime compass]

yes you do

[red rapids]

iirc its something like 150? talent level

[oblique heron]

you need to disable vman enchancment for that one

[prime compass]

the pirate one is level 50, so basically just spec out of it

[pastel kayak]

Last item need for the secret set I think now

[red rapids]

is it only 50? dang lol easy to get

[crude drum]

k, thanks

[prime compass]

i am 2 levels short of the level 200 enchancemtn. i got bad book rng, i shouldve just waited for a guarntee

[oblique heron]

that's not good 😝

[prime compass]

just to make sure, you arent trying to keep your AC in his form, and afk farm in w1 right? you are just using him for other stuff?

[sharp swallow]

How should I farm villager statues?

[frank shore]

?

[red rapids]

w5 hole, mushroom cavern

[frank shore]

i don't got the 1k frags yet

[prime compass]

oh you dont, mb

[sharp swallow]

Yes but like afk / active ?

[oblique heron]

afk or sb active

[frank shore]

what should i do then when i get the afk?

[fallow atlas]

can someone teach me how to use this last tower? the most effective way at least

[prime compass]

just put him afk on whatever you need him to. because he gets them outside of his MC form

well on anything with combat

[frank shore]

oh i see

so i could use him to push?

[prime compass]

yeah you could

[frank shore]

is that the same for DB and WW?

[oblique heron]

Boulder with poisonic unlocked

[frank shore]

that's fkin sick

guess i'm rushing that then

[red rapids]

unsure what you mean. it does an aoe, which cleanses any buff the enemy has. so you want it near the front, likely with a slow in front or behind it

[fallow atlas]

is it better?

[oblique heron]

also it basically turns all special trated mobs(stun, heal other on death) into basic variants @fallow atlas

[fallow atlas]

it's 13s at first, it won't handle all of this fast af enemies

[prime compass]

i really cant find a good spot for void tower, he either does nothing or gets stunned

[red rapids]

upgrade it and it has a 25% cd refresh on it. hit lvl 10 with it and its now 50% chance to refresh

[oblique heron]

he should be near enemy spawn portal

[red rapids]

also im going to save you a hot minute @fallow atlas , you want to be doing your towers much further down the line, not right there

[prime compass]

so only have him in range of the spawn? and everyone else far away?

[fallow atlas]

how much down?

also what's the new strat?
I was 1 ice 2 earth 1 ice 2 earth and some parties to speed them up

[red rapids]

you know that little ledge, right before the right wall.. that one

[frank shore]

like it takes 30 mins for a single accuracy upgrade that gives me 1 accuracy.... i need 50 more to get to rats

[prime compass]

which is it no rus, because you are literally giving me mixed signals

[fallow atlas]

I SHOULD BE OVER THERE?

[normal lagoon]

How far do I go on this for tome? Lol

[prime compass]

do i want a ice tower next to it?

is that why there is the ~

[oblique heron]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[fallow atlas]

where you're standing then?

[fallow atlas]

is this the best?
guys I have no idea what I'm doing 😭

[frank shore]

i need 48 of these and i've gotten 2 in like 100+ claims

[vague saddle]

#1277368276095336558 message

[oblique heron]

it's pretty good might be too expensive for you now but it's general idea should be clear

[red rapids]

basically this

[vague saddle]

I should probably start doing my achievements for all worlds I don’t think i’ve ever purposely done them apart from the ez access

[vague saddle]

For a second I thought you were at wave 1 wifh 20k starting points and I was very confused

[fallow atlas]

the pink is party, purple is the summoner and green is poison?

[fierce oracle]

is there a good way to get stacked rice cakes and dark lanterns or do i just have to grind for a long time?

[vague saddle]

Purple is kraken but I think you mean that with saying summoner

[fallow atlas]

for pink u pick the +25% dmg to everyone of FASTERRR

[normal lagoon]

I am now at 26, I am bored and wish to stop.

[red rapids]

the eyes push them into the wall and pin them there. the poison clouds whittle them down, and the slow keeps them from getting past. with the void erasing everything that goes by it

[normal lagoon]

[vague saddle]

yk I never read what the void tower does apart from taking the color away

[fallow atlas]

do u have vman?

[fierce oracle]

yup

[fallow atlas]

it's good for materials

[red rapids]

for me, the two on the right are speed boost, the 3 on the left are dmg boosters

@fallow atlas do you have the equinox upgrade for towers? and the atom dmg booster for towers?

[fallow atlas]

neither for both, I need some more refinery or go fucking NUTS into dungeon to continue equinox

[red rapids]

those two buffs will help carry you into the 100s

[prime compass]

i need 48 more shrine levels to continue equinox 😭

[red rapids]

so for now dont get discouraged if youre not making it too far

[fallow atlas]

I need more dmg to keep the first 3, I'll try ice now with this new build and see if I can at least kill the first bosses haha

[prime compass]

have you tried using a windwalker for the immobilize ability? just a thought

[frank shore]

are there any of these in w1?

[prime compass]

those are the w3 ones iirc

[frank shore]

getting 50 more accuracy literally gonna take me a whole day

[prime compass]

thats why you should just farm bored beans until you unlock afk and call it a year

[normal lagoon]

What the FUCK I reached 30!

Can you at least not lie to me, Tome?

[frank shore]

i'm at gigafrogs atm

[prime compass]

bored beans are basically the best place to farm. higher mobs dont do anything good for you. its all about kill speed and quantity

[frank shore]

murder

[prime compass]

so bored beans or smaller frogs

dont do anything for unlocking afk*

[red rapids]

after you get your afk, park your ac somewhere you want stuff, whether loot (tremor wurms) or pushing, and then leave them alone for a while. the afk stones build up (1 per hour) and then when you have like 10 or so you can go to whereever you want to get tachs from and spend them all there. AC is very.. dont do anything with it for 5 days, then push half a world, rins and repeat

[frank shore]

lol

i'd like to park at tremurs but i just don't get enough loot i think

i only have 1 gfood stack

[red rapids]

better than 0

allows you to active with someone else while still getting ac progress

[prime compass]

36 million eggs down, 64 million to go

[normal lagoon]

God I wish the money wasn't so buggy

[normal lagoon]

I get what it's TRYING to do, but I wish he'd just make new tiers of money

[frank shore]

i do need like

several hundred more of the non gfood hampters

[normal lagoon]

"Hundred" 🥲

[frank shore]

interesting

[prime compass]

more like 1376M more

[sharp swallow]

Is it alright to enchant collectibles before unlocking the 2nd page of them?

[normal lagoon]

You can reset enchants, so yeah if you want

(6 wishes at the Lamp)

[sharp swallow]

Ohh yeah ty!

[prime compass]

i forgot i had copper smelting in my forge 😭 i mean ill need it eventually, but i didnt want 40 million bars right now

[mellow mountain]

im on 2nd mastery (or first, idk after unlocking it in rift) and my characters breaking the door just despawned and they arent anywhere

[prime compass]

drop your mastery at rift

[frank shore]

welp, got all my people where they need to be for the next 24 hrs -.-

most will be in their spot for weeks

[mellow mountain]

also when discovering last cloud in sailing they need 70 days to complete lol

speaking of sailing in sailing shop all captains are straight ahh for some reason and i have 10x better ones from months ago and never saw any good one

to the point its concerning the difference between those i have and in the shop

[prime compass]

the ones you have are leveling up

[mellow mountain]

but how does it still need 40-70 days to complete one tour to the cloud?

[prime compass]

have you been upgrading their boats speed

[mellow mountain]

yh

is it more in boat spd than cloud discover rate?

[prime compass]

i think boat speed is how quick it gets there, and cloud discover is how much progress they make

[vague saddle]

TURTLE VIAL AQUIRED LETS GOOIOO

[frank shore]

wow i need these pets

[prime compass]

you just showed off the 3 hardest to get

[frank shore]

wait there's a lot of good pets i don't have now

[mellow mountain]

another question, how do endgamers get these insasne statue drops to the point of greenstacks??

[fallow atlas]

uh should I not start with venom?

[prime compass]

venom does basically nothing by itself, it needs something holding it in place, like tentacle guys

[mellow mountain]

except p2w ofc

[red rapids]

uhhh what lol.. for your start only place one kraken, one poison and one slow

[fallow atlas]

can one summoner keep it up?

[red rapids]

and then build out of that. more krakens if youre getting overwhelmed, void to stop any purples etc

[vague saddle]

AC has a multiplier, pallete has a multiplier, also just high droprate and crystal rate

[red rapids]

for the first couple waves sure. 1-2 krakens can

if you feel yourself being overwhelmed by how many enemies then either upgrade kraken, or build another

[mellow mountain]

also another thing, recently i was disconected from the lab on most characters but was active before?

[prime compass]

they are only active when you have them in the lab, through being uploaded or with divinity

[vague saddle]

There’s a divinity to be always active but not gaining experience

[warped pelican]

Do I only get charred bones when active with db master on or can I do it with master skill off?

[prime compass]

you get a drop to unlock afk gains. you can only get the drop to start through active

[mellow mountain]

i had polar bear divinity on all but changed it to other divinities like half a year ago and they stayed connected

[red rapids]

do you mean the 1000 you need for afk? or the afk charred bones

[warped pelican]

The 1,000 bones, do i need to be in master mode to get them or can I do it normally.

[prime compass]

!ww

[obtuse orbit]

How to get AFK Windwalker:

Step 1) Go on your Windwalker and turn on Tempest Form.
Step 2) Kill things for a while. The faster your kills, the quicker you'll get it done, but go do murder.
Step 3) After collecting 1000 fragments, hold click on them. Boom! You've unlocked afk dust!
Step 4+) When you afk on your WW, you'll receive 1 Aethermoon for every 2 hours your afk session is. Afk for 5h40m? That's 2 Aethermoons.

Notes:

• If you have 2 WW's, you only need to do this once.
• To get Aethermoons, you must be afk'ing combat. It doesn't matter whether you're in Tempest Form or not. And no, no candy.
• When using Aethermoons, they are based off your current AFK Info display. Run a Deer cycle first, then consume the item just as you would a candy.

[prime compass]

this but db

[red rapids]

gotta be in mc form

[warped pelican]

Thankyou

[mellow mountain]

im getting bones from main form afk..?

[fallow atlas]

I tired this and I really do not have cooldowns nor damage enough

[red rapids]

youre getting the 1000 shards you need to unlock the afk bones? while afk? no i think you already unlocked afk bones

[prime compass]

yeah once you unlock the afk currency through fragments

[timid warren]

god this goal sucked

[mellow mountain]

oh i thought you meant bones not fragments

[red rapids]

yah youll likely need to level cannoli in w4 cooking, to get more points so you can easier level your towers

[fallow atlas]

I have some startings with stamps, but I'll take a look into that

[normal lagoon]

(and the towers in your construction panel)

[prime compass]

have you leveled your towers in construction?

[warped pelican]

Which masterclass bonuses is the strongest?
I have all 3 but curious which to focus first.

[red rapids]

if you want to prog your TD. your main upgrades you'll need are
cooking cannoli
equinox tower dmg
w3 atom collider tower dmg boost
leveling towers in construction

[prime compass]

none of them are really the "strongest" you just unlock afk, and work on all of them. exalt stamps are pretty useful, primsa bubbles are pretty useful, ribbons are pretty useful(i mixed up my mc's buffs)

[red rapids]

trade yah

[fallow atlas]

to get equinox I need to progress in TD, and to progress in TD I need equinox 😭

[azure finch]

if i have like 300 dungeon passes and i do a dungeon not during happy hour how many dungeon passes will it take(no prayer btw)

[timid warren]

No u need construction not equinox for this goal ~lvl 40 towers or so works

[prime compass]

ive gotten to wave 50 in all 6 without unlocking the equinox damage buff

[red rapids]

focus on 300 construction, maxing 5 stats, do the weekly boss battle theres a pic floating around to show you how to get 5 star, and refinery levels

[fallow atlas]

alright I think that's a plan

[red rapids]

yah but you gotta level the towers in construction lol

[prime compass]

i didnt say that you didnt have to

[red rapids]

300 construction will help you level your towers with better speed, which will allow you to push the 50 on first 6

[prime compass]

i still need to get 300 construction 🙁

[fallow atlas]

I'm with 200k/h building rn, how many do I need for the 300 to be at least... doable?

[warped pelican]

The cost reduction on the towers is really helpful

[prime compass]

you need to be looking at player xp, not build rate

[red rapids]

that 300 is contrsuction level.. like.. the skill level

[fallow atlas]

HOLY SHIT

[prime compass]

you need 1 person to be at level 300 construction level

my highest is 97 🙃

[fallow atlas]

my max is 75 😭

[warped pelican]

Is your board filled with exp cogs?

[red rapids]

put your 2 dk's on the cog map, then turn on the filter to xp, and only put xp cogs in there

[fallow atlas]

yes!

[willow siren]

how do i get instagrowers?

[red rapids]

from gem shop i believe

[prime compass]

my guy needs 19.3M xp for 1 level, and gets 8.29M/h

[willow siren]

610 is criminal

[timid warren]

I got this AFTER unlocking all 10 ninjas...

[tame jungle]

wasnt there a tool to optimize your construction stuff

[red rapids]

iirc thats 610 gems, but you get 1 every day

[willow siren]

2

which is still bad

[red rapids]

ok so 2 instagrows every day forever.. .for 610 gems..

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[normal lagoon]

I think most of us do lol

[red rapids]

gems are free.. youre complaining about a free resource giving you a way to speed something up for free

[normal lagoon]

Easily one of the worst and most pointless vials, but it's worth maxing for Vial Mastery.

[willow siren]

also how much exp % does zen cogs give?

[robust pawn]

anyone know best pet comp for arena wave 115 with only 4 pets? (for equinox)

[normal lagoon]

(I'm unsure if Excogia is x4 because four pieces or not)

[tired berry]

what level in sneaking do i get the gold gloves from?

[normal lagoon]

11F, second to last floor

[tired berry]

cheers'

[prime compass]

all those points into the construction xp bubble, and i only went up to 9M/H 😭 1 level every 2 hours(right now) and 203 levels to go

[normal lagoon]

If you're referring to Call Me Bob, you'll later get Kruk to level it for you

[prime compass]

10 more hours for a 50% chance to get badgur