lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[oblique heron]

🥲

[dire cedar]

womp womp get rng diffed one orange candle

[prisma skiff]

I should level up my paragorgia coral but I also want to wait until I get the equinox upgrade from the pink coral

[dire cedar]

what are the things i can do to boost coral/day?

[prisma skiff]

quite a few things

[visual canyon]

😄

I'd like to thank my mom, the academy...

[prisma skiff]

welcome to hell world 7

[dire cedar]

welcome to the cool kids club

[visual canyon]

I feel like dying already 😄

[dire cedar]

first thing your gonna want to do is hand in all those nametags lmao

[visual canyon]

Just did. FINALLY

So much space in my chest

[crimson sorrel]

Now I think i can go to spearfish

[visual canyon]

Ok...Can I get a quick rundown of the legend talents? Like, what I should prioritize?

[crimson sorrel]

Get 21x crystal, dr , gold food bonus and the shrine one and if want the gaming one

[prisma skiff]

super talents

how many points do you have first of all

[visual canyon]

Got it. What are super talents exactly?

[oblique heron]

whalamus

give points get buffs

[visual canyon]

22 *points

[prisma skiff]

u get 1 super talent point every 100 levels after 500 (including 500), super talent point gives u +50 (goes up to +100 with the other legend talent, +125 with zeniths later on)

[visual canyon]

Oh wow...

[crimson sorrel]

Is the summoning familiar useful when you can get that much chance from ac talent

[prisma skiff]

it's very OP, it makes you have a chance to not use up a familiar slot

[simple wadi]

It's one of the strongest legend talents tbh

[prisma skiff]

so you can buy DOZENS of familiars per week

it's such an incredible boost to summoning xp it's not even funny

[normal lagoon]

Those are two very different things

[crimson sorrel]

Oh i understand means that buying familiar don't increase the upgrade count so u can buy more is i am right

[twin idol]

Give me a name people of #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 chat.

[normal lagoon]

AC Talent: Chance to get 2x familiars for one purchase
Legend Talent: Chance to not +1 the purchase limit of Familiars

Combined they're both even more powerful.

[simple wadi]

Keilen19

[oblique heron]

keilan10

[twin idol]

should probably give this as context of previous names

[normal lagoon]

Char10WFC (Who Fucking Cares)

[crimson sorrel]

I should put points into that next time

[prisma skiff]

bigballer471285

[dire cedar]

Kmoney69420

[simple wadi]

KinkyKeilen

[normal lagoon]

Yeah both are massive; legend point one probably moreso, but both are incredibly important because Summoning Level is incredibly important, more than people realize.

[visual canyon]

I can't believe I got here without unlocking land ranks lol. They sound super important

[twin idol]

KinkyKiki

[prisma skiff]

for reference I just bought my familiars for the week, I was able to buy 109 familiars instead of your regular 25

[normal lagoon]

and lord only knows how many doubled via AC Talent

[prisma skiff]

mhm

[normal lagoon]

So anywhere from 109 to 218 instead of the usual 25 to 50

[crimson sorrel]

@twin idol the 0.0001 happening a lot today

[oblique heron]

should i exalt this?

[normal lagoon]

its pre good

[visual canyon]

AHHHHH MY DROP RATE JUST HIT 47X MY HEART

[twin idol]

bless

[crimson sorrel]

I wait for Tommorow and see if it reaches 500k

[twin idol]

It has been born, as of today I am KinkyKeilen

[normal lagoon]

lol

[prisma skiff]

truly one of the names of all time

[normal lagoon]

Now to choose a class.

What's the kinkiest class?

[twin idol]

It will be a mage

[prisma skiff]

journeyman. it has whips after all

[normal lagoon]

AC for sure cuz of Tenteyecle

[prisma skiff]

oh well if it's gonna be a mage yeah AC

even has some aphrodisiac shit going on with the vials

[twin idol]

Just doing natrual class selection, so the order will be... DB, SB, AC, DK, WW, ES... and so on.

[oblique heron]

Is this some sort of an experiment?

[twin idol]

Depending on what is the main goal of the account... uh it can be different things... you guess.

• A proxy for Companions / Exclusives for Giveaways
• Looking for bugs only achievable on earlier progress.
• Learning what idleon is like in 2026 for a new player.

[ornate zephyr]

finally finished obols

took like 3 eternities but at least its done

all are rolled ofc

[oblique heron]

do iceguards on everyone

[ornate zephyr]

iceguards are just extra frags

[oblique heron]

domeo at least

[ornate zephyr]

extra frag

[normal lagoon]

You're never truly "finished"

[oblique heron]

HH in 11min

[ornate zephyr]

extra frag

[normal lagoon]

Double the LUK and 1.5x the drop chance is not "extra frags", it's literally an upgrade.

Hell I also use Emp over Sparkle Dice because emp has so many benefits

[ornate zephyr]

im not ruining my perfect setup just for 4% more dr and meaningless amount of luck

imma use them once i get enough to replace all of em at once (aka. never)

my ocd wouldnt survive that

[normal lagoon]

I mean Domeo you get 2 every 7d so

[ornate zephyr]

not enough dr

[normal lagoon]

Just slowly replace everyone's

[ornate zephyr]

really makes you wish there was an obol for better dr dyt?

i still didnt get a single one

[normal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️

[oblique heron]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[normal lagoon]

Pretty sure that DR is incorrect given I get 2 every 7d and my DR is well under 3k

[oblique heron]

i got 2 today

[normal lagoon]

I get 2 LITERALLY every time there's 2 of them

[ornate zephyr]

well my dk has 70x and even maxed out orb doesnt give me one

[normal lagoon]

and with my DR (in that map), a 1/3334 would be like a ~60% drop rate

oh right orb

I still don'tsee why it's 100% for me

[small isle]

If I use Pocket Divinity bonus from the Camp' bonuses and link myself to the Arctis and the Goharut both, does it mean I will be levelling my Divinity without the need to afking ot the Altar?

[ornate zephyr]

you either need to be at altar or at lab

[normal lagoon]

Arctis and Goharut do not "stack" how you think they do

• Arctis: Considers you in the Lab ONLY for the sake of connecting lab nodes. Does not consider you "in the lab".
• Goharut: If you are physically in the lab, you get both Div and Lab EXP.

Yeah even Doot can't do that

I'm at the point though where Div pts are nice and both my ES are just Labbing/Divving away

Doot is still VERY worth it don't get me wrong

(idk about $200~300 worth it, but he's still worth getting)

At least weekly freebie claims count as +1

[ornate zephyr]

just use Tranqi and that "you are always in lab", then ignore forever

[normal lagoon]

That doesn't get you lab levels/div pts though

[ornate zephyr]

And?

[normal lagoon]

The latter of which is quite nice to getting other bonuses, especially once you've reached the Balloonfish map and have unlocked Coral Kid||, Divinity #11||.
(and his sidekick Ballthezar)

[earnest terrace]

should i go for it

[normal lagoon]

How much % change does 1 mail get you?

With that much mail I'd consider encouraging a bit more if it's like 0.1%+ per encourage

Once you hit 25 you can guarantee you'll never delevel, so deleveling at 24 is catastrophic and I've experienced it a good handful of times...

[earnest terrace]

213% chance for extra mail

[normal lagoon]

No no I mean if you Encourage, how much do those success/crit fail chances change by

[earnest terrace]

oh i see

like 0.1% difference

[normal lagoon]

If it's actually 0.1 and not under 0.1, I'd encourage a bit more. Every little bit helps

But that's just me, and having PTSD of trying to get out of 23/24 hell

[errant skiff]

Bunny server 5 is the best one

[simple wadi]

I'd go for it. Got mine on a 7.5/9.2 roll.

[earnest terrace]

knowing my rng its gonna favor the failure

[normal lagoon]

And I've failed so many times at like 10%/9%

The feeling of not being stuck in 20-24 hell is pure elation

[simple wadi]

He's 15/8, I think he's got it

[normal lagoon]

PROBABLY has it.

You don't know

[earnest terrace]

i just put it all on encourage. ill give it a go next day

[simple wadi]

You gotta break that fear of failure someday =3

[normal lagoon]

Okay that might have been a touch wasteful on the mail but hey, I admire the "better safe than sorry" mentality.

Cuz I know at some point it's like 2 mail/encourages for 0.1%

[earnest terrace]

i get lots of mail from spelunking

[normal lagoon]

That's fair, though that will slow down given spelunking takes awhile to recharge

[earnest terrace]

yea they're charging up right now so they should be ready by tommorrow at the latest

[simple wadi]

SoB I pulled a @dire cedar

I was watching Hulu and accidentally deleted a lotus flower I had moved to use symbols on that spot.

[normal lagoon]

oof

[steady nest]

Why my ES have more xp gain than bubo?

[oblique heron]

Delete the eye prayer immediately

[steady nest]

-5% damage

[normal lagoon]

(and royal sampler)

[ornate zephyr]

royal sampler is good wdym

[normal lagoon]

Does it let you go over 90%?

[oblique heron]

I don't think they are at 90% without sampler

[steady nest]

Mine is -30% , may be 1 lvl

[normal lagoon]

Unless you really need the bigger samples or it really benefits you in some way, I don't like dropping things like EXP or making mobs have more HP, etc.

(also yes the eyeball prayer is worthless)

[steady nest]

Ya, I also have it 1lvl , -5% dam

So

[turbid comet]

anyone elses daily first crystal spawns nearly lag them out to a crash?

[prisma skiff]

anyone know where this unbelievable XP disparity could be coming from?

[normal lagoon]

Assuming you're using a BiS setup, you have too many better directional cogs loaded on one of your characters

[oblique heron]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[obtuse cave]

do you get more exp if you play tower denfense or is it the same as just worshipping

[simple wadi]

Same as worship

[obtuse cave]

ty

[thorny gorge]

I got my deathbringer and windwalker, but I'm kind of a casual player so Im running behind on some basic stuff (like stamps and shi) When do I start to focus on them?

[rancid mist]

Always

[normal lagoon]

!db do v this v for both of them (and AC when you unlock AC)
(Note: WW is 2h for a 2h token, DB and AC is 1h for 1h tokens, but otherwise it's the exact same thing for DB, WW, and AC)

[obtuse orbit]

How to get AFK Deathbringer:

Step 1) Go on your Deathbringer and turn on Wraith Form.
Step 2) Kill things for a while. The faster your kills, the quicker you'll get it done, but go do murder.
Step 3) After collecting 1000 fragments, hold click on them. Boom! You've unlocked afk bones!
Step 4+) When you afk on your DB, you'll receive 1 Charred Bone for every hour your afk session is. Afk for 2h40m? That's 2 Charred Bones.

Notes:

• If you have 2 DB's, you only need to do this once.
• To get Charred Bones, you must be afk'ing combat. It doesn't matter whether you're in Wraith Form or not. And no, no candy.
• When using Charred Bones, they are based off your current AFK Info display. Run a Tomb cycle first, then consume the item just as you would a candy.
• The entire stack is consumed at once, so split stacks accordingly.

[simple wadi]

Whenever you want.

[prisma skiff]

even when I just swap their places the difference is still astronomical

idk why that happens honestly I've been trying to figure this out for ages

[normal lagoon]

They must have an astronomical level gap then

[simple wadi]

Their forms are not affected by stamps or alchemy or anything (outside of a few MC resource boosts), so you don't need to wait.

[simple wadi]

They both DKs?

[normal lagoon]

The only thing that really matters are Tab 5 talents (and Tenteyecle for AC)

[simple wadi]

Both have the same talents and talent levels?

[prisma skiff]

2nd dk has lower talent levels actually

but still has like 3x the xp

the level gap is only like 70 levels but it's been happening even when the 2nd dk was lower level than the 1st

[normal lagoon]

Also this (but the Warrior version)

[simple wadi]

You guys keep saying it's an "astronomical" difference, but the second is barely getting double the first DK's exp.

8.6T vs. 24T

You have Doot? Is the second linked to a different deity?

[prisma skiff]

I have doot yes

[normal lagoon]

That's more like 2.8x, which is nearly triple, and I'd argue is decently astronomical

[prisma skiff]

also that talent is level 0 on the 2nd dk

[normal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-judging-golden-girls-trendizisst-gif-11633942434121529867

Do you also have something like Skilled Dimwit on DK 1 but not DK 2?

Same with Royal Sampler

That wouldn't quite cause triple, but still

[simple wadi]

Yeah that was my next question - prayer differences

[normal lagoon]

There's also this

[prisma skiff]

2nd dk has zerg rushogen 1st dk doesn't, otherwise they're identical

[prisma skiff]

neither of them are equipping this

[normal lagoon]

Idk if AFK Gains affects Construction at all

I'd assume it doesn't since Cons isn't an "AFK Skilling Activity" like something like Mining or Chopping is.

[tacit sandal]

What about post office boxs? not sure if you talked about that before

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah that too

Construction box

(I wish we'd get new boxes; kinda sucks just having a 100k dump now for everyone)

[prisma skiff]

both are maxed

[simple wadi]

This doesn't get reflected in the exp info for construction on the cog board, btw. Just tested it.

[prisma skiff]

shit's genuinely a mystery

[normal lagoon]

hmmm

I hate that W7 is gonna not be last on my save files lol

[oblique heron]

What's the point of saving

[normal lagoon]

W5 and 6 are both at 170 on the save with 180 best.
W2, 4, and 7 are gonna be 190 save, 190 best
Nuttos and W3 are 200
Glublins is 220

[normal lagoon]

So you can reload from that point instead of having to sit through a lot of fluff

[oblique heron]

Yeah but why

[normal lagoon]

I just wanted clean saves because selling lowers your saved points

[simple wadi]

[normal lagoon]

So I can get back to 191 a lot quicker than having to restart?

[prisma skiff]

I assume the cog setup looks fine in theory

[sly plank]

hi, which trapping critters should I stack multiple in storage for? trying to clean up some storage space…

[oblique heron]

Yeah, but wouldn't you start from 0 anyway when you get better bonuses like bonus points from merit

[sand timber]

Where do yall usually put your characters if you know you not gonna be playing for a while?

[simple wadi]

You should have 10m of each. No need to have multiple stacks.

[simple wadi]

Bravery or gmush for coins.

[sly plank]

I’m over 1b on the stacks I’m trying to figure out which ones need over 1b in stuff like construction

[mighty parcel]

I wish

[normal lagoon]

Froge (Fireball Tower, also Trapping Efficiency)
Scorpie (Stormcaller Tower)
Shiny Scorpie (Trapper Drone, but you only need like 25k or so)

[prisma skiff]

do you have a ribbon on cannoli btw? wondering how big of a ribbon I should put there @normal lagoon

[normal lagoon]

There's also vials for Shiny Froge, Crabbo, Mousey, Bnuuy (Bunny), Honker, and Turtle

[normal lagoon]

I have it at Rank 8 Ribbon, Level 111

[sly plank]

finished the vials but really appreciate you mentioning everything!

[normal lagoon]

I had a whole notepad for every critter, but I deleted notes I no longer need (e.g., vials I maxed), but hopefully this may help

Frog: Bubble, More Frog = Trap Eff for WW
sFrog: 1.1b needed for Vial
Crab: Bubble, critter Numnums
sCrab: 250k needed for Godshard traps x10, outside of that, no more use.
Scorp: Green Salt, Bubble, Stormcaller Tower, Stamp
sScorp: ~159k needed for Trapper Drone then no more
Rat: Stamp, Bubble, Pink Salt, LOTS OF USE
sRat: NONE
Owl: Stamp and Bubble
sOwl: Useless after 10k
Peng: Bubble
sPeng: NONE
Bnuuy: Stamp
sBnuuy: NONE
Dung: Bubble
sDung: NONE
Honk: Bags; kinda useless
sHonk: NONE
Blob: Bubble, Bags
sBlob: Useless since I have enough for everyone to get W7 Traps. Could be important later though?
Turt: Bag; useless past that, currently.
sTurt: NONE (yet)

(just in case, "s" before a critter = "Shiny")

I just scanned my eyeballs across the IO Wiki page for each critter and their use and wrote notes down relevant to me.
Any of the ones with "NONE" usually mean "they're used in one recipe for like 10 of them, and I probably have enough to get all of those I need"

[prisma skiff]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Critter_Uses theres also da wiki

[normal lagoon]

Oh I didn't see that page specifically, nice

[sly plank]

never seen that page before either, thank you both!

[normal lagoon]

See like Owl is literally useless once you push that bubble to Atoms

Oh wait it's not comprehensive

[prisma skiff]

ruh roh it needs an update

[tacit sandal]

😭

[oblique heron]

hourly clicking(dk how it would work for traps) 🤷🏻‍♂️

[prisma skiff]

bastards!!!

[prisma skiff]

you click collect traps on your hunter every hour

[oblique heron]

smart

[mighty parcel]

So I started working on my alchemy few months back a was wondering how important vials are I have worked on some but it seem so tedious... This is what I have now am I missing any important ones

[oblique heron]

can't push anymore

[prisma skiff]

vials go insane tbh, and they get easier to do as you get later into the game

and the more vials you get to 13 the higher the bonuses get

[oblique heron]

turtle broken

[runic jolt]

how can I increase collectible chance in jar? I unlocked about 8 in 2nd page but its at 0.02%

[prisma skiff]

as for what vials to get just look into the IT page (https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-2/vials) and see what effect you like the most

[mighty parcel]

I'm at the last map in w7 until more maps are open

[prisma skiff]

a lot of the vials you don't have maxed you can just candy or print, I think you can max those out pretty easily

and then you can work on things like smelting bars passively

[normal lagoon]

Every vial is important because of Vial Mastery

Some are, obviously, more important than others.

this one for example is literally worthless outside of the Vial Mastery bonus

[oblique heron]

op bonus

i get 1 copper more for selling random trash

[normal lagoon]

It's "OP" because by maxing it, it buffs other good vials

[pastel kayak]

Will be giving this pet away later

[ornate zephyr]

[vague saddle]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[mighty parcel]

My trapping isn't so great tho I only play mobile and b4 w7 I couldn't figure out why my levels were stuck on all characters turns out overflow but it's gonna take me forever to max the Tuttle with shades

[robust pawn]

Yo! Anyone got an updated prisma bubble priority list!??

[normal lagoon]

Set-and-collect with your WW/BM

[robust pawn]

you're a legend m8

[narrow ermine]

i need these bad pls don't bug out again

[normal lagoon]

Omega Motherboard literally cannot proc

[narrow ermine]

wait why

[normal lagoon]

It's bugged

Look at IT, it shows no motherboard for 50+ weeks

Wiki isn't fully accurate

[narrow ermine]

zzzzzz

[thorny gorge]

Im just casually doing WW now, should I worry bout elemenal damage rn or is it for later

[narrow ermine]

is that the only bugged one

[normal lagoon]

The only one I noticed. Nanochip should pop up in 3 weeks

[normal lagoon]

By like W3~4 maybe start to care if Aboms take 10 years to kill.

• General killing/farming: Dust Bow/Dust Rings
• Aboms: Elemental Weakness Bow/WP Rings

[vague saddle]

Whats the best map for this? I assume I need to be active but I wanna do this to spam some godshard bars

[narrow ermine]

gmush

you get 2 for one since you build up gmush bonus from lab

[vague saddle]

Bet, is there a way to see if it triggers or just check occasionally, and it has to be activer right? or can I candy it

[quasi galleon]

FYI, you and the other people who got rule 3'd yesterday were for off topic in the main channels. You were all sending a bunch of youtube videos for music and such and pushing out people trying to talk about the game.
The reason for your mute was because you had multiple warns and the system auto-muted you, which stack into increasing mute durations for each warn you have.

[mighty parcel]

How high is your alchemy level bcuz I've been stagnant for a while now

[normal lagoon]

AC is #1 at 205

[quasi galleon]

But sure, claim the mods are powertripping 😉

[narrow ermine]

from what i read its dependant on your ore capacity, if you are able to smith 1 full stack per 2 minutes. then what you do is rotate your archers every 2 minutes so that your automation arm refills the ore capacity for you. i've seen people candy it with 1 hr candies when they make multiple stacks of 1050m godshard ores in their storage

[mighty parcel]

I'm at 178 took eveyone out yesterday to work on sigil's for a week

[normal lagoon]

Don't worry too hard on most sigils, esp when you can easily cap them with Spelunking later

Go for the big bonuses that benefit you the most, and leave a lot of the crappier ones for Sigil Syrups when you get hundreds of them later on

[faint anchor]

What the hell does 2% for World 7 mean

[quasi galleon]

It means it's a placeholder bonus that'll be used for W7

[faint anchor]

Why how helpful

[mighty parcel]

Really bcuz I actually started working on spelunking last week how far until I reach the one for sigils

[narrow ermine]

whats your sigil speed?

[normal lagoon]

Lit up far right square

[mighty parcel]

How do you check that

[tacit sandal]

tool box

[narrow ermine]

idleon toolbox

[mighty parcel]

Let me check

[normal lagoon]

Honestly sigil speed doesn't really matter when Spelunking exists

You get a ton of syrups that act like 24h Time Candies for Alchemy (including Sigils)

Just work on ones that give you really nice bonuses and save the rest for Spelunking via syrups

To give a better idea of how good syrups are: The day I unlocked the Purple sigil tier, I literally got every single one of my sigils to purple within minutes.
(and still had hundreds of syrups afterwards)

[oblique heron]

Death of cranium cooking 🥲

[normal lagoon]

I'm not entirely sure how it all calculates, but CC is still huge.

[tacit sandal]

Just double up on it

[quasi galleon]

Not even remotely

[narrow ermine]

how long did it take to get to syrups

i just started w7 like a week ago

[quasi galleon]

I can get years of alchemy per day of CC. I am not getting that output from Spelunking

[normal lagoon]

In fairness I did get a ton of during the 5.3x Stamina Regen Rate Meritocracy week

[mighty parcel]

68.9 per player

[tacit sandal]

slow Until you get lots of energy

[oblique heron]

Isn't it even slower once you get a lot of energy

[quasi galleon]

Not very long

[tacit sandal]

@narrow ermine

[normal lagoon]

IMO this should be just on by default. Spelunking feels great when the regen speed is that fast lol

Now I do like 1 run every few days

[dire cedar]

no worries i will 🙂

[faint anchor]

The final infinite summoning winning bonus of Doom where is it I am 23 deep

[quasi galleon]

For where you unlock it

[oblique heron]

Spelunking will be "completed" to fast in this case

[faint anchor]

Where do you literally unlock on 23

[normal lagoon]

yeah so you have the upgrade

[dire cedar]

just unlocked th 600 blue bit one lol wasnt expecting the bottom right one to be so damn expensive though lol

[normal lagoon]

upgrading it further increases the chance and you'll just accumulate them

[normal lagoon]

Yeah it's pretty nuts

[faint anchor]

I have been waiting weeks claiming gaming every time it's full just to get a couple Q so I can upgrade fertilizer once how in the hell do you have all of that

[dire cedar]

the bonus does seem kinda nice though. imma just need to get my snail like 5 or 10 lvls higher i think

[dire cedar]

lots of effort lmao

[mighty parcel]

Wow how a when I'm still stuck at a mil nuggs

[normal lagoon]

(my nug is like 3x Multi's lol)

[faint anchor]

Please tell me your secrets

If I go far enough into infinite something will I just be able to bullshit my way into ignoring stamps I do not enjoy stamps

I am willing to put a lot of effort into summoning

[narrow ermine]

[tacit sandal]

Please just do your bubbles I promise it is worth it 😭

[narrow ermine]

i don't like stamps either

my stamp levels are so low for w7

[faint anchor]

I'm going down kicking and screaming and also waiting for resources

And liquids

[oblique heron]

gotta do achievments

[tacit sandal]

or ignore that and snail

[dire cedar]

yo good looks i cvompletely forgot that was a thing

[narrow ermine]

am i screwed if i failed to do it all 10 times

[oblique heron]

same

[oblique heron]

🙃

[tacit sandal]

omg

[normal lagoon]

• Need Liquids? Do AC grinding.
• Need mats to get shit to atom range? Take off the Vial lab node bonus and go on a class that doesn't match the bubble color you're trying to upgrade (alternatively go on VMan since VMan works for all colors); be sure to change maps from W4 cuz turning off the lab node only updates when you leave the map. See if that pushes you to 100m range for atoms. If it doesn't, re-enable the node (and map change) and change character to a class that matches the color. Pump more into it. Try undoing the node and wrong class color again and see if that works.
• Need Atoms/Conversions? Well that's just waiting, sadly.

[tacit sandal]

hes not at atom levels

[normal lagoon]

Oh if you're not on atom levels then yeah bubbles suck

[oblique heron]

unlocked it like 2 weeks ago

[normal lagoon]

Also because I know someone will ask about the thought process behind the middle step:
(making all these effects weaker can-and-will push you to atom ranges easier, just be sure to maximize their benefits to pump more mats in before switching them all off to see if you hit 100m)

[tacit sandal]

If you wanna know his bubbles are around level 10 all of them

[oblique heron]

Warriors rule looks crazy with prisma multi

[normal lagoon]

Combined with Multorange Prisma, stuff like Orange Bargain goes crazy lol

[warped spruce]

is there like an optimal guide for the jars collectiables for what you want to do

[tacit sandal]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=TT1234 his link

[mighty parcel]

Damn I got alot to do then I think I only did about 65

[oblique heron]

How do i do 200 greenstacks equinox i could realistically get to ~175

[mighty parcel]

Wow didn't know it made that much of a difference My bubble for warrior rule is higher than yours but you're getting more out of it than I am

[faint anchor]

Is there something like no bubble left behind for vials I really hate vials more than myself

[faint anchor]

That's a bit of information

[simple wadi]

There's a lot of things you can gstack that you might not think of. Quest items from W1/W2, potions, bullets from the anvil, food, etc.

[oblique heron]

Ohe yeah i forgot about all anvil items

[normal lagoon]

A lot of useful information that everyone should be made aware of

[oblique heron]

Maybe easy statues greenstacks

[mellow mauve]

Shopkeeper foods for greenstack

[plucky light]

https://idleontoolbox.com/dashboard
at what point do i start working on W7 skills? im under the impression it wont be for another month or so

[simple wadi]

There's one skill and nothing's stopping you from working on it now assuming you're in W7

It's not a very involved skill. You do two runs and then it takes 2-3 days to recover stamina to do another two runs.

[plucky light]

i see

[dire oracle]

I'm kind of confused why fishing efficiency matters for death bringer?

[plucky light]

should i stick some/most/all of my characters in the caves to farm scrolls?

[tacit sandal]

There is a skill that buffs him based on it

[simple wadi]

Look at the middle tallent of the DB talents.

[dire oracle]

ahh tysm!
still figuring out the master classes

[pulsar condor]

How yall get past AC suggmas?

[simple wadi]

~That~ is the part where it might be saying you have better things to do. You could get your chrs to about level 20 or 30 from the first cave, and then ~50 from the second. Then ~80 from the third. The true burst of exp comes from the 4th cave, where you can get to level 200+

[simple wadi]

#1388287254623158426 message

[dire oracle]

Drop rate does nothing to bone rate I assume?

[lyric basin]

yoo guys supp

quick question whats best way to farm bulseye statue?

[simple wadi]

Playing some Hollow Knight StS while my AC boosts AFK crystal at gmush.

[lyric basin]

whats ES?

[tacit sandal]

Slay the Spire 2 gonna be lit

[simple wadi]

Elemental Sorcerer

[tacit sandal]

elemental sorcerer

[lyric basin]

huh better than DK???

[oblique heron]

Whale

caved in and bought 1 slot for this

[prisma skiff]

it's practically required to complete that task in any reasonable amount of time so good purchase

[lyric basin]

yoooo sup Aust Colossus

[lyric basin]

bought???? WHALEEEEEEEEEE

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141120

[scenic magnet]

@normal lagoon finally joining the club

[quiet rapids]

where do i get this excel ? 😄

[lyric basin]

its so expensive HOW DO YALL HAVE SO MANY moneydroprate

[oblique heron]

symbols never

[normal lagoon]

I need to go for #5 someday

[lyric basin]

alr have it prob its so wasy bro TIME CANDYSSS

[scenic magnet]

Yea I don't think i can do 3+ the 2nd one dropped my damage from like 234m to 11k lmao

[oblique heron]

grrr

[brave pebble]

What is the best way to do the lantern map constellation?

[lyric basin]

nope only have 40 but np easly can get up to 80 no diff

[oblique heron]

nub

[scenic magnet]

Time to speedrun spelunking levels on my db lmao

[oblique heron]

can lava observe the new update plz

[fallen orbit]

does this not stack?

[scenic magnet]

It doesn't stack

[lyric basin]

dk throw bumberang and dont touch mobs and just go to other side of map

[simple wadi]

That's the one to not get hit, right? Enter map, wait a few seconds, then kill everything and run.

[scenic magnet]

crazy spelunking exp from the last page

[normal lagoon]

Stand there, wait til it says to go, then kill all the mobs (from a distance)
Turn off any form of mob respawn skills.

[fallen orbit]

so in that case, optimal grand discovery setup?

[scenic magnet]

Blue potion I think is good

[silver pilot]

I did it chat I'm in w6

YAY

[fallen orbit]

good job

[prisma skiff]

greenstack time buddy

[cerulean wadi]

Is candied dk still the best way to get dark lanterns? I'm at ~300x DR on mine and I'm still going to need so many candies

[normal lagoon]

Oh cool, my almost 1.3x DR just dropped to 1.092

[silver pilot]

Any tips?

[normal lagoon]

cool game lava, thanks for fucking me 🥴

[silver pilot]

ok I'm probably gonna push to trolls so I can get a db

But I'm still soft locked

[tacit sandal]

Don't ignore farming or sneaking

[silver pilot]

Yeah ik

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[crimson ether]

what should i get next?

[oblique heron]

farming=bad

[silver pilot]

I went for random island next

[simple wadi]

Shimmer

[oblique heron]

crystal for gems/candy

[silver pilot]

Yeah crystal

[lyric basin]

YIPPEEE MAXED (holding ik it cant be maxed)

[normal lagoon]

Has anyone else had something like this happen???

[silver pilot]

Seriously tho the bossfigt was just pains talking

[prisma skiff]

could try and see what numbers you get on DB but yeah dark lanterns are just brutal in general unfortunately

[silver pilot]

ESPECIALLY FOR BBS

[jagged fossil]

No polar I havnt

[fallen orbit]

what to do...

[silver pilot]

Wrong chat

[jagged fossil]

Lvling rates with ac is such a pain

[simple wadi]

Use the biggest hammer.

[lyric basin]

ur cooked

[silver pilot]

Yeah ig.

I still have no idea how spelunking works

[normal lagoon]

OKAY SOMETHING BROKE ON MY ACCOUNT

[fallen orbit]

yeah i know. womp womp have to relaunch

[prisma skiff]

ruh roh

[normal lagoon]

Literally all my crystals on every map is now 1.092

[white sequoia]

Could I get help from an archer and mage to fight king doot?

[scenic magnet]

I wanna know why my dk has more damage then my Deathbringer lmao

[fallen orbit]

sure

[cerulean wadi]

Is active dk for the orb bonus gonna make much difference or should I just test db and then candy hard

[fallen orbit]

skull 16

[simple wadi]

Active ES is better for lanterns than active DK.

[prisma skiff]

if it's active you're going for use ES

[jagged fossil]

How u running idelon steam/android/web?

[normal lagoon]

Okay something is breaking in regards to the talent

[jagged fossil]

Did u choose ur other talent save? That also makes the ammount difference if u haven't put points in it

[oblique heron]

i had something like that after i did my vman every mob i have seen was set to 2mil in deathnote even gmush

[cerulean wadi]

active or afk is fine for me, so just trying to optimize a bit lol. zoroark- if that's to me, steam/android depending on the day/what else I'm ding

[white sequoia]

Could an archer come to skull 16 server and help fight king doot?

[normal lagoon]

That's literally intended lol

[jagged fossil]

I was going to suggest checking the web loader or reloading idelon

[normal lagoon]

No if I go over 200 it seems to fuck everything

[oblique heron]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[faint wigeon]

Had your bug happen to me too once, or something similar, I tried like reset of talent cloud save for a minute or two and it worked back

[prisma skiff]

I feel like DB will be your best bet for AFK kills but that depends on how much candy you're willing to spend

[faint wigeon]

Account too bricked game is nerfing you

[jagged fossil]

No I meant for @normal lagoon

[normal lagoon]

I'm able to replicate it now

[prisma skiff]

Will also be the most time efficient realistically since dark lanterns are just so slow to get

[normal lagoon]

It seems like just going too high on the talent level (200+) will break it.

[prisma skiff]

Talent overflow

[jagged fossil]

Mine is Max and it's fine

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-duck-smoke-smoking-twitter-duck-gif-1365401141084093497

[jagged fossil]

I'm at 1.33dr currently

[faint wigeon]

Sick

[jagged fossil]

Took days tho since afk doesn't seem to Lvl the map bonuses

I also picked the wrong map for statues so gotta start over

[simple wadi]

How high is too high?

[normal lagoon]

I just tested, it breaks at 230

I literally went point by point past 200

[simple wadi]

Only when you first spend talents after a reset?

[normal lagoon]

It doesn't matter

I reset it, I don't reset it, as soon as I hit 230, it ruins everything

[simple wadi]

It has to matter. I just showed I have ever 230 and it's not resetting.

[normal lagoon]

Not a lot of wiggle room here...

[zinc torrent]

Does it actually give the DR multi or is it visual?

[normal lagoon]

It changes the multi

it's not visual only

[jagged fossil]

It's a multi

So significant at max as it is 1.5x

[normal lagoon]

Okay so I just fully cloudsaved and logged out at 229, came back in, put 1 point in to 230, I changed maps and now it's 1.089

[faint wigeon]

Actually changed on the sheet

[simple wadi]

You're not understanding the conversation, lol

[lyric basin]

the actual f does this do???

[simple wadi]

Read it.

[faint wigeon]

Every day you play, your Grind Time bubble gets +80 Lvs

[simple wadi]

It tells you exactly what it does.

[lyric basin]

ye but whats "grind bubble"

[simple wadi]

The alchemy bubble called Grind Time

[faint wigeon]

Uh 9th yellow bubble? Somewhere around that proly

[lyric basin]

ohhh oki tnk so is it good should i max it out?

[light relic]

anyone know how to get this?

[normal lagoon]

what the fuck

[zinc torrent]

That is probably the last one I would max out

[lyric basin]

craft it

[normal lagoon]

So how far do I have to pump this thing to make it NOT break

[light relic]

dont have recipe

[normal lagoon]

I found the answer: 241

[lyric basin]

max this out

[simple wadi]

Click the question marks in your anvil for tab 3. They tell you how to get them.

[sly plank]

prehistoric is bis for everyone right? keep one set of emperor + godshard tools for DR on dk?

[faint wigeon]

Sure after you’ve maxed the other first

[lyric basin]

wich one i only have that and sneaking thing

green coral

[light relic]

bruh lmao thx thought i maxed everything already

[normal lagoon]

Can someone else test the Crystal thing for me???

I wanna see if this is just me or not

[faint wigeon]

I guess yeah, godshard set for DK, ES tho chances are you will candy w3 statues instead of farming on EZS (or other thing), and proly AC why not

[lyric basin]

idk than cklick it and see where it take u if its "?" cklick it and itll show who drops its recepy

[faint wigeon]

Well save then, unless sneaking not even level 1

[zinc torrent]

It depends. My DB was getting less KPH on gmush with prehistoric bc I lost the MKpT from other gear

[faint wigeon]

Can’t am on phone and had half of your bug once

[light relic]

it worked

[faint wigeon]

Right yeah..

[zinc torrent]

Id have to retest now that got higher afk multi

[normal lagoon]

@simple wadi Would you mind testing it on that map you have that 1.2+ AFK crystal?

[lyric basin]

on mastery 2

[simple wadi]

I've been working on it for three days

[normal lagoon]

It will come back dw

[simple wadi]

Fiiiiine

I just reset the points and then check the crystal?

[normal lagoon]

• Reset Talent
• Put points in until it's 229
• Leave the map and go back to it. It should be at the correct number.
• Bump it up to 230
• Leave the map and go back, it should have lowerest drastically.
• Bump it up to 239
• Leave and go back, should still be lower.
• Try again at 241
• Leave and go back, should be corrected.

[faint wigeon]

Do something like that @lyric basin might help a lot proly

[normal lagoon]

It seems to break on anything in the 230-240 range, but anything <230 and >240 works fine.

[simple wadi]

Before reset

[lyric basin]

oki

tnk'

[simple wadi]

Reset

[normal lagoon]

Leave and go back first at 0, it should be 1.000

Changing points on the map seems to have no immediate effect until you refresh the map

[normal lagoon]

Odd af

[simple wadi]

Left and it's still fine

[normal lagoon]

If your talent is at 0 it should be 1.000x

Now it's just not even working the same as mine

[simple wadi]

Put it to 200, still fine. Gonna refresh map now.

[gusty pike]

guys what does bagur do

[normal lagoon]

WIP, nothing yet

[gusty pike]

does it actually do nothing

[simple wadi]

Still fine after going in gemshop

[gusty pike]

bruh thats stupid

[normal lagoon]

It's literally not finished yet

Kruk didn't do anything until the W7 patch either

[gusty pike]

o well ig im just farming gods for nothing now

doesnt something happen when u get all of them?

[normal lagoon]

It's probably a tech limitation because if he were to add a divinity after getting the ones that are done, the game would break

[normal lagoon]

Yes, you start accumulating God Rank

Which affects Talent 13 on ES and also has other benefits later.

[simple wadi]

Actually Lava put it in as a joke. He hasn't even hinted that it will ever do anything. He thought it was funny people keep voting to put it into rotation.

[gusty pike]

is that useful?

[gusty pike]

wait is bagur the last one?

[simple wadi]

229 still fine

[normal lagoon]

As expected

230 + Map Refresh should fuck it

FTR: I was literally teleporting/taking the next room portal; idk if Gem Shop counts or not, so if it doesn't change from gem shop, try literally moving rooms

[simple wadi]

230, reset map, returned and still fine.

[normal lagoon]

Okay so yeah wtf

It fucked all my maps too, not just River Spirits

Dunno if it matters but I was on AC testing this (both in and out of form)

[hard maple]

The MC is RG right

[normal lagoon]

For DK? Yes, but it's not out yet.

[hard maple]

then its the one for SB

after

[faint wigeon]

Mayhem

[normal lagoon]

SB's MC is ||Mayheim||, which is also not out.
ES's MC is ||Spiritual Monk||, and also not out.
VMan's MC is ||Infinilyte||, and unsurprisingly, not out yet.

[hard maple]

When did they anounce those names

[faint wigeon]

If about which one is next we don’t know but people say DK since BB had its MC first
But in not in another year if I had to say

[normal lagoon]

None were announced, they're datamined

[faint wigeon]

Datamined and Dungeon

[normal lagoon]

RG was accidentally revealed via Dungeon

[faint wigeon]

So might change or not

[hard maple]

I know

k thanks

[normal lagoon]

FTR:

[simple wadi]

Checked every 10 levels to 330, nothing changed. I can't recreate it.

[normal lagoon]

The fuck.

I also don't have the AC thing to change the limit

Do you have that by chance?

[prisma skiff]

when vman MC comes out, will our character turn pitch black like the blobulytes? 🤔

[normal lagoon]

This

God what the fuck

@simple wadi One more test if you don't mind, do you have a DR Crystal at like 1.1x+?

It could be specifically breaking the pink DR crystal only and not the blue AFK one

[simple wadi]

I already thought of this and checked my Ram map in W3 while doing the testing.

[stone wing]

Great question sol

[prisma skiff]

yo

[stone wing]

Gonna farm purple genie

[normal lagoon]

I took points out of the NBLB talent because it's at 101% at that level so fuck it, now I don't have to deal.

See and look how good my DR is when the game doesn't break 😭
(61% of DR affects Prisma DR as of this screencap, Map is River Spirits in W6)

(also sucks my Prisma rate is back up to really bad levels in W6 lol)

[pastel kayak]

Mega evil bad @stone wing alert

Bad @simple wadi alert

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696

[dapper badge]

How do you guys get annihilation stacks? i have 600m DB damage and cant get past baby boas

[proper sand]

some of those upgrades are screwed. im far into my DB but some i cant pass. the only thing that has helped me, when you enter the map, wait a few seconds before you start attacking

[dapper badge]

OK I'll try

[visual canyon]

Is this the upgrade that unlocks land ranks?

[prisma skiff]

ye

[visual canyon]

Awesomeee

[faint wigeon]

Nope that unlocks sky rank

[visual canyon]

😮

[prisma skiff]

sea rank

[tacit sandal]

I think it unlocks alchemy not sure though

[visual canyon]

no, it just gave me some birthday cards 😔

[dapper badge]

Didn't work unfortunately

I wonder if kills via skills doesn't count

[tacit sandal]

I'm stuck on slimes for the tomb stone upgrade

Idk if there is a fix

[proper sand]

yeah its very frustrating. were just locked out on easy upgrades because it doesnt work right. its been a problem for me for a while

[pastel kayak]

I finally have 10m of them now @faint wigeon

[stone wing]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[dapper badge]

Tried with combustion off didn't work

[faint wigeon]

nice

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

(hello mister milky tea lover)

[stone wing]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-mods-and-staff-ily-gif-25934904

[normal lagoon]

Oh that's not a bad batch of killroy this week, also +2 for Killroy Prime
(W7 Players: Reminder to NOT do them until Meritocracy switches over since it's currently winning)

Also at what point do I leave auto-refine on for these

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[faint wigeon]

like per my usual I just do killroy at end of week anyway

[faint wigeon]

jesus fuck

[tacit sandal]

I've seen people at 100k

[normal lagoon]

Also am I crazy or should I have seven opals from C14?

[faint wigeon]

you're crazy dw, its about base points without the mult

[normal lagoon]

Oh that's stupid

[faint wigeon]

yep

[normal lagoon]

Actually, you're wrong!

[faint wigeon]

that's lava

[faint wigeon]

I'M WRONG?!?

[normal lagoon]

I had a theory that it only updates after a match

I just went in and lost after 30s and it gave me an opal

[faint wigeon]

great 🍝

[normal lagoon]

I guess I didn't do a match after enough mults got me to 10m

Cuz like, they're all at 25mish, I'm not getting much better than that (plus I just reset my doublers to Essence/Cost so I'm literally incapable of beating my scores now)

[pastel kayak]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Deirdreamber @faint wigeon what to work on this morning?

Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad @faint wigeon old man alert

[normal lagoon]

Ooh, nice dumpster EC today. He might be bad, but he's still an EC and leagues ahead of some of my shitter guys

[faint wigeon]

[normal lagoon]

I'm also testing to see if random events require a map change or not since it's ticking over in 2m

Answer: Yes they do.

@dire cedar Are you proud of me dad?

[faint wigeon]

Very, you've surpassed me son birb

[visual canyon]

Do I receive the bonuses even if I can't vote yet? Just reached w7.

[faint wigeon]

you do, just less multi I reckon

[spiral path]

that's better than my speed and I have 60 more fertilizer levels

[prisma skiff]

the palette difference

[faint wigeon]

NOW THAT'S MY SON

I think he has better than me too

[prisma skiff]

funny numbers

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/lucifer-lucifer69-luciferauction-gif-21825542

[dire cedar]

my speed is 21.8 lmao that .8 is actually impressive so much speed from the squirrel and other things too glad you're working hard on it

[faint wigeon]

[dire cedar]

thats what this is right?

[zinc torrent]

Yeah my fertilizer 840ish and he got .2 seconds on me.

Same level minty blue, equal or higher on the other one.

Must be squirrel, mine only 400%

[dire cedar]

pretty sure its just these 3 things that affect speed gain right?

well i mean besides pallete colors

[normal lagoon]

Those 3 and the two palettes yeah

[stone wing]

new sneak

what am i even looking at

[dire cedar]

a bunch of losers flexing on each other about active clicking harvest all lmao

[sullen parrot]

why are they green

[dire cedar]

but imma be tonight's biggest loser just wait

[spiral path]

well, I'm the best active clicker!

[dire cedar]

gaming has something called palette mode that you unlock eventually

[normal lagoon]

(Lv 150 IIRC)

[sullen parrot]

gaming 🎮 💪

[bleak gazelle]

ayo, i finally have better numbers in something?

[normal lagoon]

15.1m
Good lord

[spiral path]

give me a few minutes!

[normal lagoon]

I wish my snail wasn't such a piece of crap to fail over and over at low/mid 20s

[spiral path]

...

[dire cedar]

what level are your snails at? mines lvl 39 currently. thats my biggest issue with progressing on gaming if im being honest

[normal lagoon]

39
Good lord what the fuck, 32 here

My strat is to never attempt until 1 stack of consecration

[faint wigeon]

1b nuggies and snail 39 smh what else you wanna take? ours wives?!?

[normal lagoon]

To just guarantee I never delevel

[normal lagoon]

Lol I'm at 3b nug

[faint wigeon]

same, tried with 2 stack yesterday, first failed and second succeeded the lvl up

[dire cedar]

mhm samsies i lose a lot of good soldiers to the gambling god when i tried to go from 30 to 35 was a dark day indeed

[normal lagoon]

I never get to 2 stack

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/bdMgA.gif

[normal lagoon]

I just do 1 stack cuz you lose all stacks on a success

[faint wigeon]

51M 39 snail

[faint wigeon]

well did 2 because could do ig yeah

[dire cedar]

i just need one good nugget dig and i'll be at 10b i can feel it. ive been due a big one for a while now

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-iron-man-cbt-gif-24974467

[spiral path]

same, IT says my max nug is 14B

[dire cedar]

lmao i didnt know it could check that

[faint wigeon]

yeah

[zinc torrent]

One day I might login longer than to just do dailies, but today is not that day

[faint wigeon]

sometimes I envy shiro or kai, or hell even team and pep..

[dire cedar]

i should probably get all my things to cost 100 blue bits

[bleak gazelle]

smh, all those extra clicks and lower max

[foggy escarp]

Hum hey do anyone know how we summon bigger hour thing I was working on getting to the elite class void man but I need for 1 to get biggi hour and destroy it

[zinc torrent]

The eyes craftable item from anvil tab 2. Drop em on the mimic map on the top left, forget what marker that thing is

[spiral path]

because I'm a dumbass who maxed out metal detector instead of DR at equinox

[faint wigeon]

dropping on biggie's cadaver

[bleak gazelle]

ah right, mine's only at 40

[foggy escarp]

Tanks guys

[spiral path]

I prefer DPS

[foggy escarp]

Il go and do it when I get there

[faint wigeon]

Healers are never appreciated smh

[spiral path]

well, it's all the healer's fault, always

[dire cedar]

nah its always dps's fault if they would just one shot there wouldnt be any problems

[faint wigeon]

also it scares me that you don't know (or remember) how to summon bigie when it should've been the quest for maestro

[faint wigeon]

if you die know that I wanted you not to live
(jokingly, I'd never do it to the Gefe)

[red rapids]

if anyone has a second, can you explain to me how this is this low, while the dmg is much higher. but my db is killing more, with much less dmg?

[dire cedar]

idk if this bacon is halal imma need lava to lemme know

[zinc torrent]

Tanks fault, bro didnt hold aggro.

[dire cedar]

time to hit the big 2 0

[faint wigeon]

his talents to double his kills, among other things

[red rapids]

his talent doesnt count for afk kills

[normal lagoon]

KpK Barbarian talent.

Also you cut off your prayers

[prime compass]

Dadoum doesn't lie. Except for when he does

[faint wigeon]

it does

[red rapids]

oh ok i guess. thought it didnt thats my bad

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-duck-smoke-smoking-twitter-duck-gif-1365401141084093497

[faint wigeon]

You know it Mister Salazard

[faint wigeon]

then other than that talent, if maybe even again talents, prayers and uh idk

[red rapids]

took all the points out of the kpk and it stayed up at 22q

[prime compass]

[dire cedar]

nice try but i unlearned my reading comprehension as it went against idleon's tos. wookie tryna catch me slacking so i get another timeout

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-culag-ghe-computer-union-tcu-gif-9020636186736290449

[echo crag]

culag ?

[red rapids]

the AC prayers. db doesnt have any on

[dire cedar]

you need to love yourself now!

[spiral path]

damn, missed spiketrap by 4 seconds...

[normal lagoon]

Use Fibers on both since you're not getting MK, see if that bumps up your KpH

[prime compass]

Idk im just kinda hoping it isnt bad

Probably just misspelt gulag

[dire cedar]

galaga is cool but chicken invaders was better

[red rapids]

i took the prayers of AC, still nothing lol im so confused

[normal lagoon]

Those prayers won't affect your KpH

[dire cedar]

your prayers have no power here

[normal lagoon]

Well the MK one would if you had MK

[red rapids]

no but the whole 'no prayer = percent of all prayers' i thought maybe thats why db was boosted

[spiral path]

those are... some kill/h numbers... feels like you are trying to brute force w7 maps too soon

[bleak gazelle]

DB still has tab 3 talent

[normal lagoon]

Oh, yeah, it's not worth though (the 0 prayers thing)

[bleak gazelle]

it's just the tab 4 kpk talents that don't work

for w7, the 40% might be worth it, just gotta test it

[red rapids]

i took the points out and the kph stayed the same

[bleak gazelle]

did you zone in/out and/or cloud save?

[red rapids]

sorry, the kph went down, the xp stayed the same

just dont understand how AC has almost 10x the dmg but is getting like 1/3 the xp lol

[tacit sandal]

Wait why are you pushing?

[bleak gazelle]

is your DB your lowest leveled character by chance?

[red rapids]

im not? ish lol its the best xp available atm to me, so just farming shells and getting nice xp

[red rapids]

nope

[strong stratus]

Guys,i am around lv 400 on most characters,but i am still working on my statue to onyx,stamps,alchemy,is it worth to get a ww and ac just for the skill buffs?

[tacit sandal]

Thought the best xp farm for that level was crystals

[zinc torrent]

Well, db has 40% higher afk gains. At 350% that is decent size difference. Not getting MK on either of them, the damage doesnt matter if both are killing that maps mob cap.

Does DB have respawn rate items? AC?

[red rapids]

i mean you can only be active on one guy. so im measuring only afk gains

[red rapids]

the db does have like 12% mob respawn

[zinc torrent]

Could test movement speed pots to see if that increases your afk gains, too.

[tacit sandal]

Food?

[faint wigeon]

yes hungry

[spiral path]

how about monster respawn chips?

[crimson ether]

is it possible to get wave 50 at citric with boulder rollers?

[faint wigeon]

cards?

#1277368276095336558

[spiral path]

just rollers? with no voids I doubt it

[red rapids]

thats it.. food. ive got like 4000 dumplings on the db -facepalm- thanks

[faint wigeon]

yeah in #1277368276095336558

there's a link to a wave 50 with and without boulder

[crimson ether]

i have void but it's like level 5

[faint wigeon]

better than no void

[normal lagoon]

Oooh fuck yeah two more prisma while I was AFK for dinner and now I don't have a clue what to prisma.

[spiral path]

citric usually gets me with the teleporting dudes, even now

[crimson ether]

ahh shiii thanks

[prime compass]

finally, 5 star cards unlock 😔 im sure it wont get any harder than that

[faint wigeon]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message
tho might be outdated since you can't place towers at some places, namely portal

[tacit sandal]

tachyon bubble?

[faint wigeon]

Delgado Kenway also left fuck me

[prime compass]

uhoh its seems like im running out of rift steam. the next rift that had a healing mob was able to heal a few times

[normal lagoon]

Any thoughts? (✅ = already prisma'd)

(No I'm not doing DChef)

[prime compass]

Dchef

[faint wigeon]

kruk

[normal lagoon]

Kruk's on my potentials, alongside Shimmeron (Gold Food Effect)

[halcyon pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[faint wigeon]

hello squid man

[halcyon pollen]

Hello mista dad of all

[tacit sandal]

Get the kruk

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[prime compass]

isnt the gfood effect supposed to be kind of minor compared to other available bonuses?

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/spiritus-shrimp-shrimp-rave-beer-seafood-gif-21993919

[zinc torrent]

Kruk doesnt seem worth with the low cap to hit diminishing returns

[halcyon pollen]

Thanks for the meal mista intern

[normal lagoon]

That's kinda where I'm at

[tacit sandal]

9k bubbles during kruk week op

[faint wigeon]

prisma base stats

[normal lagoon]

If it was that low it wouldn't be an A Rank on the tier list, surely?

[spiral path]

depends on your g food bonus mult

[faint wigeon]

first 50k level of the stats is fine, after is meh because diminishing return

[prime compass]

if dchef wasnt amazing it wouldnt be in S tier

[normal lagoon]

DChef is amazing. IF you're not at level 111 meals yet

[visual canyon]

I've collected several crops now, why aren't any of them gaining xp or ranks?

[tacit sandal]

Hes gonna add more bubbles

[normal lagoon]

At my point in cooking, the only levels I'm getting is via NMLB

[prime compass]

oh yeah with that, i guess dchef is kinda pointless

[dire cedar]

you gotta have one rank in the first spot to get a rank on the next spot

[faint wigeon]

your crop unlock land ranks when the plot before it has land ranks, and collect some exp. something like that

[zinc torrent]

Dchef still has use after 111, it is just lot slower and ladle intensive

[spiral path]

get shimmeron...

[normal lagoon]

Exactly. All 10 kitchens have been cooking Turkey A La Thank for like a WEEK now and I'm still nowhere close to a level

[visual canyon]

Oh. So, this first rank is gaining xp, it's just really small?

[faint wigeon]

ye

[normal lagoon]

Prismaing DChef would maybe double the size of my tiny drop in the bucket

[prime compass]

at least you are working on the right meal 😔 everyone knows turkey is a SSS tier meal

[visual canyon]

Gotche. Thx lad

[normal lagoon]

It's the quickest to cook

[prime compass]

"+0% Gold Food Effect. Go on, its ok, I won't be offended. No seriously, go upgrade something else, I know I'm not a good upgrade..." shimmerons own words

it admits that it sucks

[dire cedar]

whats your highest and lowest meal lvl?

[normal lagoon]

Literally all W4-6 dishes are 111; W7 is like upper 80s/lower 90s

[spiral path]

every couple of weeks I just open IT and laddle a handful of meals, anything that shaves off a few days from the checks notes 5.6 years to max out meals with NMLB

[dire cedar]

also gwagon whats your snails rank i forgot to look to seee if you answered when i asked earlier

[faint wigeon]

finally something I'm better!

[sullen parrot]

came back to the game once with terrible lag, how to fix? do i just filter everything?

[normal lagoon]

Hmmm maybe it's not a good idea to Prisma.

[prime compass]

how important is sneak mastery for someone who cant even get to the top of the tower? can i just put that off?

[prime compass]

yeah they said with all the other mults/effects, its kinda pointless

[faint wigeon]

ideally yeah, everything you don't want/need, keep only statues and gfood proly

[zinc torrent]

Did you prisma dchef?

[faint wigeon]

nope!

[spiral path]

everything helps

[normal lagoon]

75.3 x 1.25 = 94.125
If Prisma'd, 75.3 x 2.49 (prisma) = 187.497, then x1.25 = 234.37%
In the grand scheme, not a huge difference.

[normal lagoon]

I guess but idk

Looking at the numbers directly, it doesn't look like it's worth such a late prisma at this point

[dire cedar]

whats it get to % wise at majestic?

[normal lagoon]

Like it's nice but not nice enough to prisma right now.
I'd love to do like multi page for Spelunking as I'm working on those vials, but then it's like "well what if RG is soon and RG trivializes Spelunking nodes?", then I'll have wasted yet another prisma; Lava let me fucking reset them! DX

[zinc torrent]

I can tell you it gets to at least 91%

[prime compass]

damn, my AC has awful afk compared to my other guys. everyone else is getting ~100k on rift 50, and hes getting 28k

[normal lagoon]

Wait, wuh

ALL sources of Kruk are Multiplicative???

[dire cedar]

have you set up the skills on their hotbar properly. it does matter how you got your skills set up

before you ask i have no clue how to set them up personally, but im sure somebody in here does

[prime compass]

cc, raise dead, skull, ghosts, teleport(i had ghosts and teleport so he could have more to do but i dont use them while ccing)

i guess having basically no attacking skills is probably hurting, even if its better for CC

but i mean even my vman, with 10% of the attack power, is getting 4x the kills

[faint wigeon]

I can also tell you that a level is +15% meaning that 90 + 15 equal to uhh hmm.. wait a moment I'll talk with my assistant @zinc torrent mister pro math

[normal lagoon]

Man think if I Prisma'd STR, and then that mults off the Warrior bubble, and the other mult bubble, good lord that's a lot of STR 👀

[tough tundra]

105%

[dire cedar]

got this fker maxed on the beanstalk so thats cool

[normal lagoon]

Now go get 1m GSugar Cookies.

[faint wigeon]

Congratulations, you managed to solve that really hard problem, in return you'll get my absolute recognition and nothing else. Eh I lied you get nothing, maybe a round of applause.

[dire cedar]

sure thing ill get right on that

[normal lagoon]

Okay well a LOT of those you can easily do

[dire cedar]

whats your dr

[normal lagoon]

That's, beside the point.

[tough tundra]

yea in reality I think all cards are just Value*level but provided the image to clarify for them it matched such expectation

[normal lagoon]

🙂

[dire cedar]

oh ok

[normal lagoon]

I don't remember what my DR was when I maxed everything

[dire cedar]

lol no no no i mean right this moment mr. war bucks

[normal lagoon]

Like 2k with the equip pieces, 1k without; both excluding AC Crystal I've worked my ass on

[sick heath]

how the hell do people get such high ranks

[normal lagoon]

More plots, more crops, more GMOs, more speed, more OG, more more MORE

[prime compass]

lots of resets from waht i hear

[dire cedar]

1k without makes my soul heavy with hate 🙂

[normal lagoon]

Get 1m GCakes and then put 50k+ on everyone

[sick heath]

in that case, HOW THE HELL DO YALL DO GMOS THEY SEEM ANNOYING AS HELL

[faint wigeon]

yeah ik was joking
my first answer said 15% per level too 🤷‍♂️

[sick heath]

I CAN BARELY GET 100 OF A CROP

[dire cedar]

🙂

[normal lagoon]

• AC (Arcanist Form)
• 85,540 GCakes equipped (1m on beanstalk as well)
• 1.297x DR on this map from AC Crystal
• Both Chains Cape and Corsair Coat are on

[sick heath]

-# unless i use like 7 plots

[dire cedar]

im going to vomit

directly onto my monitor

[normal lagoon]

Speaking of vomit, I got an FFXIV raid to wipe over and over to 🙂

(Everything may or may not be Burning 👍 🔥)

[tough tundra]

which one are you doin

[normal lagoon]

M12Sp1, ~Curtain Call prog

[tough tundra]

ah I see

[normal lagoon]

(the latest raid, last boss, Savage difficulty)

[tough tundra]

cleared the tier a couple days ago, P2 is a neat one but requires more brain than I was expecting initially

[normal lagoon]

The static I'm in has a few... who shouldn't be progging W1/2 🥲

We'll be lucky to clear W3

[tough tundra]

ah I just PFd through, friends group is still at 10 currently and I join em on alt

[normal lagoon]

I bet you can't wait for them to see 11 lol

anyway first pull BYE

[tough tundra]

good luck on the pulls

[dire cedar]

gotta get these 3 and essence statue zenith then ill have everything sub w7 zenith. well besides the kachow statue but im not doing that lol

[tough tundra]

it'll be amusing for them to see the damage stepup, I'm particularly interested for them to just see The Fixer for the first time when they get to 12 cause that thing is wild without knowing ahead of time how much it does

[normal lagoon]

Well we just wiped to "Conal Cancer" Stack/Spread so already looking good LOL

[hollow junco]

wat am i doin wrong

[zinc torrent]

For one cutting off the half that shows prayers

[bleak gazelle]

in modern idleon? nothing really, but damn that's a lot of acc

[tough tundra]

presumably just need more damage so you can multikill and get through faster

[prime compass]

damn, people really want more class xp from the ballot? rip

[hollow junco]

i use none

[faint wigeon]

candy

[stone wing]

[prime compass]

now i think i know what it feels like when people want something, and other people vote for refinery speed

[stone wing]

why u not listening to teacher buddy

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/9Hvk.gif

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/kramer-turkey-hey-buddy-waves-gif-15309967

[hollow junco]

shh

[faint wigeon]

listen to mister milky tea lover vrotatcho

[hollow junco]

we in da same class rn

[faint wigeon]

@stone wing MISTER MILKY TEA LOVER LISTEN TO YOUR TEACHER TOO
-# I too am in class lol

[stone wing]

hellllll noooo

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-be-only-one-highlander-gif-12213479

[stone wing]

research yap (i hate research with my whole life)

[hollow junco]

real

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/x5lN.gif

[atomic marlin]

I just got three 9 hour afk sailing gains from golden hampters. Only one of them triggered progress. I checked the sailing map each time. Known bug or do I need to do something?

[faint wigeon]

omni, gfood, something else (maybe bubble/po box?)

[stone wing]

did u have max loot?

[gusty pike]

how many gods are there after bagur

if anyone knows

[prime compass]

none yet, and bagur does nothing

well besides his minor bonus

[zinc torrent]

None, just God ranks after that

[faint wigeon]

blessing

[tacit sandal]

Hey a certain somebody counts

[prime compass]

🪸🧒

[zinc torrent]

Hes not God, think they mean the volcano dude that cant be clicked if you got doot

[prime compass]

you dont sound very certain about that certain someone

[pastel kayak]

First person who finds me in world 3 cog 4 wins this pet for people who need to only and most post photo of them near me to win

[jolly lichen]

ohhh what a good run

[prime compass]

what affects the maximum progress in a cauldron?

is it based off how many bubbles you've found at the cauldron?

[jolly lichen]

you mean the brew bar?

[prime compass]

yeah

[jolly lichen]

yeah it just scales up as new bubbles unlock, to make each new one take longer

[karmic yarrow]

does dk orb affect w5 col

for bread?

[jolly lichen]

it does, up to w3 I think?

[prime compass]

oh it does? i just assumed they would all be the same

[jolly lichen]

but no, w5 is more bread. w3 is more... efficient? less bread per entry but more bread per ticket with DK. And candy max.

I just did w5 for what it's worth. it was one of the last 100ks I added but 🤷‍♂️

[bleak gazelle]

yeehaw

orb works for w1-4 colos

w2-3 if you want to maximize candy from colos, but i don't think it scales with DR well (or at all?) so you'll be missing out on a lot of gfood coupons now

[dusty vale]

to what lvl did you guys lvl up your grind time bubble ?

[zinc torrent]

No clue, now we just get GT bubbles passively every day.

[bleak gazelle]

think i farmed it to like 30k, but that was in the early-mid months of w6

[fallen orbit]

where can i get more filter slots

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[bleak gazelle]

event shop, bundle

[dusty vale]

So no Need to Upgrade it anymore?

[bleak gazelle]

if you have the coral unlocked, no, i sometimes throw spare liquid into it
though at my cost it's never really spare

[zinc torrent]

Tbh, I would prioritize rate and cap over GT. Mainly bc it is nice not having to CC everytime you atom click

[dusty vale]

So to what rate should I get cap and rate?

[bleak gazelle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-limit-does-not-exist-mean-girls

[dusty vale]

i just started alchemy to chatch up the neglections i did to it

[zinc torrent]

If only the liquid regen ballot had won

[normal lagoon]

@tough tundra Update: It's not going very good 🥴 lol

[prime compass]

summoning is really helping with my damage. ive gone from 2-4T to 4-7T

im actually getting decent kills on Troll Broodnest now

now instead of taking 40 hours, it would onyl take me ~10 hours

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I did level some stamps and bubbles this morning

[bleak gazelle]

nice

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle @light relic are both stalkers today

[flint quail]

is there a guide/tier list on keychain stats? if not, what stats are prioritised?

% stats only? multikill? money?

been hoarding some keychains would be great to rid some of them

[bleak gazelle]

?wiki Keychains

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Keychains

[bleak gazelle]

DR, AFK, Respawn, Skill speed are generally the ones you go for

[flint quail]

thx, guess most of what i have are junk then

[prisma skiff]

we're having a lil party over here

[jagged silo]

[prisma skiff]

pro

[jagged silo]

I'm not whale so I can't join

[pastel kayak]

You are a stalker too now

[pastel kayak]

Any can join silly

@prisma skiff you was looking for pet?

[prisma skiff]

I already have it, sorry

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I unlocked that yesterday and maxed it too yesterday

[light relic]

i was just farming idk where yall came from

[fallen orbit]

I cant figure out which gives more power statues for the 1mil quest. ES at carrotmen or DK at carrotmen. Dk has more crystals so thats 2 mobs that drop. But ES increases base drop from carrotmen

[crimson sorrel]

How to get more artifact find chance I did some justice and it went up by 125k and I can do vial today or Tommorow

[prime compass]

crystal carrots drop power statues, so that makes dk the better one 😔

something something crystals only spawn from real monsters something crystal monster and regular monster drop the item something

[fallen orbit]

Yeah sounds like enough nonsense to make sense

[prime compass]

ES is the best for items that only drop from the main mob, since it has a better %, but dk is better for things that target both crystal and main mob

[fallen orbit]

That tracks, thank you for confirming

[prime compass]

its why es is better for active farming some statues in w3, because there are statues that only drop from the main mob, and not the crystal