lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[bleak gazelle]

idk what to spend my 2nd 20 ribbon on. anything good feels bad since i'll be losing the ribbon on it

[prime compass]

but how much time do you actually have you could log in for 1 minute after being afk for 20 years

[lament trench]

damn i guess im a baby

[oblique heron]

Put on turkey

[bleak gazelle]

you know, i actually don't have a ribbon on it

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[oblique heron]

Or pet power

[obsidian briar]

active overnight because there's no way you spent a year and a half playing this

[prime compass]

most of my time is active "afk"

[dire cedar]

danm sometimes sneaking just blesses ya

[prime compass]

and somtimes it curses you with your 2% sneak charcter being detected for a third night in a row

[simple wadi]

Actually I don't active overnight. I turn on the game and run it in the background of other games / discord

[alpine rune]

Something like that

[dire cedar]

so when trying to do grand discoveries do i try and go down as far as posssible? i havent gotten any yet

[simple wadi]

What I do is go down until I start getting 4-5 of the final object in the map. Then I pop the grand discovery potion.

[dire cedar]

danm i messed up then lol i popped that shitv immediately xD

[simple wadi]

I'd end the run early and start over.

It's a huge waste of stamina to pop it early.

[red rapids]

holy shit holy shit holy shit

[lament trench]

gz

[oblique heron]

Could've got bubba

Maybe santa better 🤔

[red rapids]

nahhh. i wanted rift slug

[lament trench]

send the pets you need here, so norus or me can ping you there

[red rapids]

guess who can finally hit 400 on talents 😄

[lament trench]

i mean if theres someone giving away pets for free again

[red rapids]

ohhh ok lol. uhhhh once sec

[oblique heron]

better send pets from IT

[red rapids]

how?

[oblique heron]

It's easier to see foe exclusives

account->prem currency->companions

[covert thistle]

I still have these . At this point i only miss Pig.

[errant breach]

can u give me panda?

[lament trench]

yeah pig is kinda impossible to get rn

[oblique heron]

begging

[dire cedar]

do i have to fully clear the map or just break all the final objects then go down to the next floor?

[errant breach]

T-T

[red rapids]

am i able to send the whole page? or to filter it to show only pets not owned?

[covert thistle]

Pig is in pack rotation. I will buy it soon as it appear 😂

[oblique heron]

i have no idea how i got offered 2 free pigs

[lament trench]

how

[oblique heron]

if you are on pc ctrl + scroll

[errant breach]

u want samurai for panda?

[oblique heron]

No way to filter not owned

[simple wadi]

Just break all the final objects. They're the only things that can give a discovery

[oblique heron]

You have sanurai?

[errant breach]

yh

[lament trench]

a sam??????? holy hell

[oblique heron]

if so wait, i'll find you a better trade

[errant breach]

is it good?

[lament trench]

very lol

[oblique heron]

ye it's like rip + doot rn

[bleak gazelle]

lul, might have waited too lnog again

[alpine rune]

Not a bad collection

[oblique heron]

can you send me what pets you are missing?

[red rapids]

its thanks to a few people being VERY generous lol

[oblique heron]

will help to get a good trade

[red rapids]

except doot, got lucky and rolled that lil shit myself

[errant breach]

i also got ballonfish

[normal lagoon]

I'm bumping up my TDs from 130 to 190 lol

[alpine rune]

W

[oblique heron]

It's also very valuable rn

[normal lagoon]

Gonna go AFK on 190 Acorn cuz my god this is taking 10 years

[lament trench]

i would suggest to keep it for now..

[alpine rune]

Good luck

[errant breach]

untradeable XDDD

[alpine rune]

Speaking of td i gotta do it now

[normal lagoon]

It's just taking forever.

[lament trench]

let me get you some boa

[oblique heron]

sad

[normal lagoon]

190 Glublin up to right now has taken like 100 minutes (skipped Wakawaka as it's W2, I'll be doing it next)

[alpine rune]

Nocturne?

[red rapids]

iirc mew said they were going to give me boa later, so im good on that 🙂 thank you though!

[covert thistle]

Ballon fish and Pufferblob was painfull . I got 5x whallamus before ballon fish and i needed to trade for pufferblob 😂

[oblique heron]

ask in trade

[errant breach]

helll nah

[simple wadi]

Replace some of those poison towers with lightning towers.

[alpine rune]

And remove the krackets n just leave 1

[errant breach]

all f2p

[oblique heron]

You have no tradable?

[errant breach]

nah T-T

[lament trench]

do u have tradeable sam..

oh.. 💀

[oblique heron]

still missing 2 pets

[red rapids]

bababooey xD

[lament trench]

the damn glunko is hard (impossible) to get

[alpine rune]

Ion even want it nm I just want riptide to complete my collection

[iron blaze]

Finished

[oblique heron]

what abou other 9 chars

[errant breach]

9dr?

XDDD

[normal lagoon]

I mean, I'd rather the aoe cuz with lightning I'll just die to the horde

[dire cedar]

holy fk man how hard is it to get any grand discoveries?

[errant breach]

bird thief

[simple wadi]

The lightning does WAY more single-target damage for finishing off bosses.

[red rapids]

there yah go!

[alpine rune]

Das for late wave 200

[covert thistle]

So i put my characters in lab for jewels . And in 3 hours they went from 75 to 180+ lvl 👀 . Thats not bad. Free 3 jewells.

[errant breach]

what u get?

[alpine rune]

For now he needs to add 1-2 more krakens and hold them off till around 13-18 mobs left in wave 200

[normal lagoon]

Yeah but then I won't have the poison for the next 10 lol

I'm expecting to die at 200

[lament trench]

do i need to farm dr obols for ALL of my characters?

[errant breach]

yh

[alpine rune]

I didn't realize he was on wave 190

Swimming to the lightning boys will make him lose

[normal lagoon]

Hilariously, 190 is quicker than 180

[normal lagoon]

IMO Silver Pops and Gold Dice; hexagon and sparkle can be replaced with other stuff

Like for example:

[simple wadi]

If you want. The low tier obols aren't that impactful. So I just used whatever I felt like.

[errant breach]

DAYM

[alpine rune]

It's actually pretty easy

Now to do it on w2 td

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, each multiple of 30 wave is harder/longer than the 10 before and after it (generally two after it)

[normal lagoon]

I'm honestly kinda bored of doing TD now so if I die I die

My daily ticked, I wanna do daily shit

[red rapids]

speaking of TD, any tips for when they decide to send like 80 yellow zoomies to stun your tower and then drop like 5 pink teleporting ones that just walk past your void tower?

[lament trench]

oh aight, time to run it back to obols farming. thanks guys

[red rapids]

good luck

[alpine rune]

Void boi

Voidinator tower to remove its effects

[red rapids]

lol reread

[normal lagoon]

Place your void better 🤷‍♂️

[lament trench]

ty, i recently achieved 49x dr so i think it will be easier than before

[covert thistle]

Is there way how to trigger AC pack ? Or i need to wait for item shop rotation ? It didnt show after i made AC.

[red rapids]

fair. ive tested a few spots but that wave kicks my butt every time

[alpine rune]

Yea void boi is the only solution to stop the stun

[prisma skiff]

place more party towers

[alpine rune]

This too

[normal lagoon]

Gon't think I'm hitting 200

I like when the mobs are frozen and yet they then speed the fuck up with some weird interaction with the root

[alpine rune]

Should’ve add a kracken tower

[normal lagoon]

Over what?

[alpine rune]

Fair

[dire cedar]

god damn wave 200 is gross

[alpine rune]

It’s good I stopped there regardless it took me hours to beat it

[echo pulsar]

its fine. just remember to use your kick

[normal lagoon]

Was spamming it lol

[echo pulsar]

xD

[open hedge]

is there a faster way of doing divinity early game? like a ring maybe?

[lament trench]

i dont think so.. you'll be there for quite a lot of time

[oblique heron]

just ignore it

[alpine rune]

Nah

[oblique heron]

prisma dchef

[forest forge]

world 1-3 🎉

[alpine rune]

Td is making me sleepy

[normal lagoon]

Finally

Now I can just dump wishes on cool dumb shit

[alpine rune]

I’m 3/4 of the way there n I wanna take a nap but imma lose this td if I do

[normal lagoon]

Alright, next TD.

I wish I had a more updated guide, kinda just doing whatever.

[alpine rune]

Hey that’s what I’m on rn

[lament trench]

yall are reminding me to do tds but its so boring

[alpine rune]

Watch nocturne gaming guide on yt

[wicked abyss]

is it fine if i sometimes login using steam i play like mobile 99% of the time

[alpine rune]

Yea just cloud save before switching between pc n mobile that’s what I do

[normal lagoon]

I wonder if putting Void on the platform with all the poison guys would be better so I can fit a 4th kraken

[wicked abyss]

cloud save from phone or pc

[alpine rune]

Whichever one ur one before switching to the other

[wicked abyss]

kk

[normal lagoon]

I've had enough rollback issues w/ the app that I just don't use it anymore.

I just connect to my PC and play it via my phone if I wanna check in lol

[oblique heron]

Why

[forest forge]

yes.

[oblique heron]

Should i do this too? 🤔

[alpine rune]

Ye

But not rn if u can’t

[oblique heron]

I did most of w1 2nd poop 2nd nut and wood mushrooms left

[alpine rune]

U can candy it btw

[oblique heron]

Thought about it

I still need to onyx twosoul

[alpine rune]

Pretty sure u can candy it to onyx on es in w3

If I recommend candying a lot it’s bc I have a lot of candies

Or at least a solid amount

[oblique heron]

Db is best for candy farming i heard

Candy *using

[normal lagoon]

Damage just went up like 30% lol

[solid zinc]

is it better in gaming to leave on palette(Dupers are not completed) and just push everything together or turn off palette and push for dupers

[normal lagoon]

Once your speed is fast enough in palette off, you can keep going on Palette (rock on) til you run out of Log/Chem, then switch it OFF for a bit til you get a few chems to get the log game back and 1 chem. Then harvest everything (except the chem) and turn Palette on. It'll start you off in palette with a full board (from the chem you harvested from switching)

(you can also just do 1 chem in palette off if it's enough to flick the log game back on)

[alpine rune]

Just 20 more waves

[oblique heron]

How do i select weapon and rings for ac form?

[red rapids]

stats?

[oblique heron]

Kinda?

I had a weapon with 5 speed and 40 dmg versus 6 speed and 31 dmg the latter felt better

[red rapids]

oh i see what you mean. pure dmg over your person moving and attacking faster.

iirc AC stats prioritize att spd, due to more spd means more skuls on the field

[oblique heron]

Yeah but it's weird on later maps when I can't one shot one kill mobs

[red rapids]

maybe try upgrade the quality talent and see if you can get a faster harder hitting one?

so i upgraded my towers and my cannoli like people said, was able to clear wave 51, got the prayer, and i didnt want to wait an hour to try it out on happy hour so i tried a solo run to see how far i could go andddd...

cleared it solo lol i didnt even know that was possible

[normal lagoon]

lol

It's almost like AC is a batshit insane class or something, crazy I know.

[red rapids]

rightttt

[normal lagoon]

(||SM|| [ES's MC] will likely be crazier though)

[red rapids]

if it sticks to its aoe playstyle, i lookforward to it

[normal lagoon]

ES is very much the "Black Mage" kind of Mage, while AC is more the defensive caster/"Necromancer" style.

[red rapids]

ngl AC would have done better with the portal, and ES would have done better with raise dead. just sayin

[normal lagoon]

I just really hate how the Portal mechanic works

[normal lagoon]

AC makes sense with portal, but Bubo makes more sense with RD

I think making Bubo the AC was a mistake

But making it like Arcane Archmage (AA) for ES

Bubo should have become a Cultist, but more like, Eldritch/Cthulhu.

[oblique heron]

Smart

[red rapids]

lol i can just imagine trying to balance a madness buildup while you have a cthulu rampaging across your screen xD

[shadow lynx]

is there a faster way to farm obol frags specifically? i'm farming dice obols rn but i have way more than i'm able to combine bc no frags

[red rapids]

turn the filter off for golden lck circles

[oblique heron]

Trashing kruk obols after framing scarf/wings

[shadow lynx]

i don't have any obols filtered

[red rapids]

if youre farming dice obols on sand pots, sand pots drop a golden luck obol

[shadow lynx]

is farming kruk the method with 9x droprate 😂

[normal lagoon]

I'm not saying to literally summon cthulhu or whatever, I'm just saying there's a CLEAR pathway from Mage to Shaman to Bubo

[red rapids]

lol it would be funny though

[normal lagoon]

Shaman dabbles in alchemy, a bouncing skull thing, and Tenteyecle which is a very clear eldritch looking thing.
Bubo goes full on into poisons and necromancy. This is clearly heading for an eldritch MC.
Then it becomes AC and it's a real head-scratcher.

[oblique heron]

Dk mc will surely improve his respawn mechanic

Like ww did

[red rapids]

oh 100% and it would make more sense for a mage class that dabbles in all the elements to take on pure arcane dmg

[oblique heron]

No idea how thi

[normal lagoon]

You think so? Idk what could be done really.

[red rapids]

depends on the route and identity he wants royal guard to take on. he could do mapwide aoe dmg every sec based on his orb score

[oblique heron]

Maybe more mobs created each use?

[normal lagoon]

I was actually thinking maybe something like "X% Chance for a mob to spawn a buddy with it"

[red rapids]

he could implement a mechanic where you take dmg every time you attack, and do more dmg the less hp you have

[oblique heron]

Like for each use + 0.1 mob spawned while orb is active

[normal lagoon]

Impossible with how Defense works and also risking death is not a fun mechanic (in a game like this)

[red rapids]

theres so many different identities that can be put on this class lol

[normal lagoon]

This game isn't always meant to be played Actively, so it needs to work on full auto as well, and risking low HP strats on full auto is not going to work

[red rapids]

he could make it so enemies no longer have to be all dead to respawn them, and they spawn from the statues location

[normal lagoon]

This isn't FFXIV with Phantom Berserkers standing in mechanics that will oneshot them to drop their HP to 1 to get a big rage burst attack 😆

[pastel kayak]

In like a hour @red rapids you can get baby boa

[normal lagoon]

(this is a real thing in one of the pieces of side content FTR)

[red rapids]

i remember lol

[normal lagoon]

I feel like if anything he might improve Statues

[red rapids]

someone was doing giveaways earlier and i managed to get a boa from them

[normal lagoon]

Maybe they could shoot in an X pattern as well as horizontally

[red rapids]

thank you though mew, i appreciate it

[warm cloud]

The memories.

[normal lagoon]

New memories come 7.5X 🙂
(meanwhile, I'll let Savage kick my ass)

[warm cloud]

Don’t make me want to reinstall

[red rapids]

after dawntrail? nah im good

[normal lagoon]

Listen I just wanted to finish one expansion's worth of all 3 savage tiers (on content). This will be my first time 🙂

[red rapids]

you still havent got to do it?

man i loved i think it was 2 xpacs ago now? the cloud of darkness

absolutely loved that savage

was a scholars wet dream

[normal lagoon]

I never did all three tiers of an expansion on content, no.
I nearly did EW, but I had to PF 9 and I did half of 10 and just stopped cuz I'm not one to prog savage via PF.

(specifically Savage, not just Normal)

[red rapids]

ok thats fair actually. i usually dont get to do more than 2-3 of them before parties fall apart

[normal lagoon]

and I'm suffering for it, since we're running literally nightly until we clear 🥴

[oblique heron]

🥲

[normal lagoon]

(nearly done with 11 though)

[red rapids]

my favourite things are the trials. day 1 release when noone knows what to do and its fresh and learning.. god i love it.. but then the playerbase changed and now everyone expects you to do everything perfectly within an hour of it coming out -.-

[oblique heron]

Should i leave my mcs fighting shrooms while other guys afk monument/skilling nodes?

[red rapids]

i want to say yes? lol

need fighting afk for the afk drops soo

but then again you need a lot of total skill levels on things like lab div etc

[normal lagoon]

If you want people on shrooms, not a bad idea, though you probs don't need more than 1 or 2 unless you're pretty deep into it

It's gonna be awk when everyone has an MC with an AFK Token and you never wanna skill AFK again lol

[oblique heron]

Just dropped all mcs there cuz can't push

All 5 of them

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah, I love doing blind content. I got to do Diamond Weapon EX blind w/ my static, that was awesome

[red rapids]

duddde diamond weapon blind was amazing!! not my favourite, but definetly top 3

the fairy lady is my number 1, i actually love her music so i dont get tired of running it lol cant remember the fights name, but the song is When Angels Wake lol

[zinc torrent]

Nah, with the skill exp merit itll be one week every couple months of skilling, then back to afk on golems or w7 cards

[lament trench]

oh.. what were you farming in the shrooms.. i read something about it but i cant remember

[simple wadi]

Oi, keep your giant robots in check. I had to kill one that invaded my monster hunter game.

[red rapids]

at least it wasnt a behemoth this time

[oblique heron]

A lot passive stats, villager statues and cards + opals

[lament trench]

oh THAT shroom yeah ignore me im dumb

[oblique heron]

What other shrooms are there

[alpine rune]

I’m still on td n fell asleep

[red rapids]

green mushrooms. purple mushrooms

[lament trench]

yeah that shrooms

[oblique heron]

Red brown

I need to farm gmush for money

[red rapids]

next world has psychedelic

[lament trench]

im currently doing that

[oblique heron]

Idleon money os evil

[red rapids]

wait.. gmush for money?

[oblique heron]

Lab node

Gives money% for gmush kills

[red rapids]

ohhhhh... shet another thing to do

[lament trench]

yup what he said

[oblique heron]

Yeahhh

[alpine rune]

Ye lab bonus

[rustic urchin]

510k gshard bars for a full set is... depressing

[red rapids]

is that including the tools?

[rustic urchin]

4 armor + 1 weapon + 6 tools

[gray thicket]

It's not that bad

[rustic urchin]

i get around 40k per daily claim on the reset

[crude jetty]

Is there a world 7 studf upgrade in lamp?? After the first knowledge of the future

[gray thicket]

Yes

[rustic urchin]

lmao really, you need 999 wishes then there's something behind it?

[gray thicket]

I mean, after knowledge of future there is something, idk about there being something behind knowledge of future

[crude jetty]

Bruh im so dumb i didnt see it. The second i hop on ill buy it

Is it multi or additive

Im scraping the ground for spelunking pow and amber

[gray thicket]

Great communication with the emojis

[stone wing]

[gray thicket]

👌

[oblique heron]

You need whalamus?

[red rapids]

yus!

[lament trench]

good luck

[oblique heron]

Hope you get him

It's a huge help

[lament trench]

yeah big legend points

[crude jetty]

Do you do 2min claims?

Personally i just did hour candies on windwalker while having a shit ton of godshard ore stscks in storage

[rustic urchin]

i'll be honest I never read on how to properly do those lol

[crude jetty]

Took an hour to get like 20M godshard bars

[red rapids]

only an hour?

[dusk knoll]

best place to farm lucky lad ?

[crude jetty]

Hop on an archer, put them in gmush, put ores in forge and just claim afk on archer, claim forge and repeat

[rustic urchin]

by claim forge you mean take the bars out?

[crude jetty]

Yeah

It auto refills with ore if you got auto arm

All you need to do is have ores in storage

Like i had 6 rows of godshard ore 1050M stacks

And did it a total of 15 times or more

[rustic urchin]

what is the ore to bar ratio on gs?

[oblique heron]

Not bad, i spend like 3 hours there

[rustic urchin]

jeez 6 rows

[simple wadi]

It's not really something you farm. Farm other stuff, such as statues, and you'll get lads as a biproduct

[dusk knoll]

i need for equnox

[crude jetty]

Yeah i got no clue, no reason to calculate it just get enough mining efficiency to do a ton of godshard with a single candy, and then split the stack

[simple wadi]

It's not really something you farm. Farm other stuff, such as statues, and you'll get lads as a biproduct

[crude jetty]

Although it will be more troublesome with the new storage since youll need to claim it in inv and manually do the stacks

[calm yoke]

do i need to use DB for farming or? for using insta grow?

[worldly furnace]

How does one get more monument afk %?

[calm yoke]

ok so thats been a mistake.

its in higher rounds of the bravery ect like25 30

[rustic urchin]

wait so db has better output on instagrows?

[worldly furnace]

thx

[simple wadi]

The monuments themselves and collectibles are your main sources of AFK %. Summoning also provides a significant chunk.

[oblique heron]

Skilling on vman

[rustic urchin]

this is actually enough to make me farm only on db

[simple wadi]

The first two farming talents only work if you're on your DB while actively farming, so yeah you need a DB for that.

[calm yoke]

so the 11th 12th and 13th in DB need to be on DB? the xp one says for all characters. confused

[simple wadi]

Only the 11th and 12th. 13th is passive.

Uhh maybe not the 12th, but definitely the 11th

[calm yoke]

ok yeah, the wording is odd, and never consistant across skills. fs gonna do it on DB from now on. i thought that first one was to all. yikes

[nimble storm]

for my vilagers is it better to have the opal spread out or concentrated in one guy?

[simple wadi]

I stand corrected, 11th also works on all chrs. I just tested it.

[calm yoke]

the insta grow too? how is it meant to work? i just got 2 daily insta and it grew one above it. so 2 plants for me as im only on row 2

[oblique heron]

Idk and everyone tells different advice

[simple wadi]

Rule of thumb:
If less than 100 total opals, spread them.
If over 100 total opals, put them all on one villager.
If over 300 total opals, put 10 on each chr and the rest on Bolaia

[simple wadi]

Yep, instagrows too.

[calm yoke]

i thought people grew their entire farm with 1 grow. so max 3 plots of land per insta?

[normal lagoon]

Only if you make your giant dragon bird things harder. Easiest Extreme trial ever.

[simple wadi]

Yep, both the crop evo and instagrow bonus carry across chrs.

[calm yoke]

lava gotta start wording sht right lol. good to know now anywho. thank you

[red rapids]

after the rathalos i was expecting a nightmare, but let down

[normal lagoon]

@simple wadi (in response to your ❓) We got Arkveld in XIV as a "Trial" (one shot boss), and he was probably the easiest Extreme trial ever

Not like EX is that bad, it's like the highest end of "midcore" content, but it was notoriously easy

[simple wadi]

Oh yeah? Yeah he's not that difficult of a monster in MHW.

[normal lagoon]

Lol fair then

Much much easier than Rathalos was though

[simple wadi]

What's funny is that Omega is the hardest "monster" in Wilds atm.

So you guys definitely got the short stick on this one.

Or long stick? Not sure how that applies here. You guys got the less fun fight.

[normal lagoon]

Pretty much lol

[red rapids]

and they still wont fix the Rathalos fight, laggy ass terrible fight -.-

[normal lagoon]

XIV players are probably generally worse than MH players though

[normal lagoon]

It's not laggy, just very early snapshots

Try progging the current savage tier and having no idea if it's lag/DDoS or the boss is actually that delayed

🥴

It's like fighting stuff during your daily crystals

[red rapids]

rathalos literally hasnt even done the move yet, you run away and still get hit while halfway aross the map

[normal lagoon]

Yeah, that's snapshots for you 🙂

[red rapids]

either way, they still havent fixed the fights, this many years later

[normal lagoon]

It's probably why Ark is a lot easier because they didn't try to put MH in XIV, they put an actual XIV encounter in the game that is just a monster from MH

While they tried to put XIV in MH which is why Omega is a lot harder, given they literally have DRK and PCT in MH now

[arctic trellis]

Do you guys know why this talent doesn't count more than 2 times for me? I have plenty of 1b kills in multiple mobs (around 30)
Also yes they are all done on DB

[simple wadi]

Ah yes, DRK and PCT. I know just what you mean. My thoughts exactly. You took the words right out of my fingertips.

[tough root]

Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Game of the Year Edition: 5XJZL-IPTWG-APQ5Y

[normal lagoon]

Dark Knight and Pictomancer, sorry lol

[calm yoke]

i just did mine recently and it worked fine. maybe get 1001 million and itll work.

[normal lagoon]

Do you have 2 DBs?

Wow and Super Chows only counts the LAST DB's kills

[arctic trellis]

Nope. Only one DB, this is an example 3 1b kills and only counts 2

[normal lagoon]

That's really really odd.

!it Check on IT under Class Specific > Apocalypse

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[normal lagoon]

The count in game might be rounding weird

[red rapids]

have you tried cloudsaving and logging out back in again?

[arctic trellis]

The thing is, this has been like this since DB released but I thought it was gonna be patched

Nothing has been done so now I'm asking for help

[arctic trellis]

Do I log with my Idleon acc?

[normal lagoon]

When you try to log on, it'll take you to a url of the game, just copy the url

It's weird, I remember having issues with it my first time, but you only gotta do it once

[simple wadi]

Try killing more of the two you're barely above 1b kills on. Get them to 1.1b kills to see if there's a hidden count that's desynced

[arctic trellis]

I have tried resetting the skill over and over again too to try to fix it

[prime compass]

my 100% luck has been pretty good recently. it'll only take me like 60 hours

[normal lagoon]

I wish I could see more 100%s for God ranks

I got lucky with 2 50%s though, both worked

[prime compass]

my last 50% suceeded, but 2 failed before that

[tired berry]

i just started with my deathbringer, are there medallions or similiar shit do i need to clear each map for or should i go straight to the highest i can handle?

[prime compass]

go for broke

[tired berry]

huh

[arctic trellis]

Yep something is wrong

might be time to send an email to Lava

[normal lagoon]

Do you have another Warrior/Barb/BB? (any Warrior that isn't a Squire or DK)

[arctic trellis]

I do have another BB but not DB

could that be the issue?

[prime compass]

go for broke is a saying that means to wager everything, or risk everything. a.k.a push as far as you can

[tired berry]

ty

[normal lagoon]

Uh, yes.

That is almost guaranteed your issue

Check your Apoc page for the bb

[arctic trellis]

aight lemme completely reset this guy and leave him as a Barb

[normal lagoon]

I'll bet you anything it'll say 2

[normal lagoon]

???

That will still cause an issue

[prime compass]

i dont think thatll fix it

its all part of the same subclass

[arctic trellis]

hmm so what do you guys suggest

[normal lagoon]

Just promote them to DB and work on Apocs on him

[red rapids]

do the apocs on him

[normal lagoon]

If it takes you longer than an hour or two per mob (like pre-W6), then don't worry about Apocs yet.

[arctic trellis]

Aight then ty all, hopefully it solves the issue

[red rapids]

finally -.-

[prime compass]

i dont even have 1. i spread my stats out too much

[red rapids]

they end up costing like 6k each

[normal lagoon]

Check the Apoc page for the bb, see if it says 2. Willing to bet it will 👍

[prime compass]

[normal lagoon]

Just to make sure that's what's happening

[arctic trellis]

Yes I just checked, it says 2, i'm cooked

[prime compass]

i guess if i want my upgrade im going to have to hard focus 5 stats

[arctic trellis]

I gotta redo them

[normal lagoon]

With your first DB, you still need to Zow and normal Chow though as those are personal

[normal lagoon]

Better to do them now than when Char 11/12 come out and people who make a second DB are gonna freak out about it 😆

[arctic trellis]

this won't reset my grimoire right?

[normal lagoon]

I guarantee you the day char 11/12 are a thing, we will see a huge influx of people complaining about that

[normal lagoon]

MC stuff is account wide, dw

[arctic trellis]

okie tyty

[normal lagoon]

ALSO you'll get 2x the charred bones now

[prime compass]

im not getting any mc afk's right now, because they are in the lab 🥲

[normal lagoon]

I'm so thankful for that Lab Ballot Bonus we had a few months ago

It gave me enough lab and div levels for everyone that I now don't care about lab and div EXP

[red rapids]

honestly id almost rather have a 2nd AC to a 2nd DB, simply because how long AC takes and how easy most wows would be by the time 11/12 comes out

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah for sure. WW will very likely be my 1x in the end

[red rapids]

100%

[normal lagoon]

Endgame WW is gated mostly by Novadust, which is active only and can't be gotten via Moons

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[normal lagoon]

Atm my 2x are DK, ES, and DB, next two are pretty much guaranteed AC and SB

It really just depends on SB's MC

Cuz for all I know, the W7 MCs can be very different, or very similar

Assuming it's the same system, WW is absolutely gonna be my 1x

[prime compass]

does spelunking have a stat that effects it?

[normal lagoon]

Strength

[prime compass]

so that might be royal guard then

[normal lagoon]

Spelunking is already hard confirmed to be RG's speciality, yes

[prime compass]

oh, damn im so smart

[normal lagoon]

Well it's a strength-based skill and there's only one strength-based class left to be added 😏

[prime compass]

it could've been db's uber class

[normal lagoon]

I think it'd be cool if we get an IMan specialty

(IMan being VMan's MC)

[prime compass]

idk what iman is going to do

[normal lagoon]

Probably VMan but further

[prime compass]

start from level 1?

[normal lagoon]

He becomes the 11th divinity.

Coral Kid, get in line.

[prime compass]

imagine if iman reset your account for permenant buffs

[normal lagoon]

Nah, I don't think we'll get a true reset like that, though I'm thinking we could get a Prestige system post-W8. I talked about this awhile ago, but a la sneaking mastery, you could go to like Mastery 1 for the game and reprog from W1

[prime compass]

gotta have prestiging in an incrimental game

and this is basically an incrimental game, with extra steps

[red rapids]

ipman

[normal lagoon]

Everything in M1-W1 will have higher stats than W8, and even the anvil stuff is the same for equips, but take way more mats and will be better than W8 equips

[prime compass]

special ability, tells you your ip

[red rapids]

oh come on dont tell me you guys havent heard of ip man

[normal lagoon]

(FTR IMan is ||"Infinilyte"||, the Datamined name for the beginner MC)

That name also just, can mean many things.

[prime compass]

maybe he removes the caps from upgrades

[normal lagoon]

I hope he comes with another 10 account wide bonuses lol

[warm cloud]

Vman MC is just a speedrun of the whole game again

[prime compass]

well theres no other way for me to do the secret quest in the tutorial afaik

i didnt know 😭

[normal lagoon]

Inb4 its form works exactly like AC in needing to reprog, but it's without all the account wide bonuses and stuff, and it's stuck as a beginner lol

[warm cloud]

You just get tossed down the tutorial again with a beginner and have to get to w6

[normal lagoon]

"Now do a Voidrun IN FORM"

[normal lagoon]

Omg wait, second attempt at the tutorial quest? 👀

[warm cloud]

Yesss

[sleek dagger]

just enough to finally filter it

[cerulean void]

if my starting dungeon weapon is higher than weapons i never picked up, will i never be able to get that item in slab

[normal lagoon]

You got 10 divine scarves too?

(I made 12, but 10 is enough for now lol)

[spiral path]

only 12? I keep making more, until I get max stat roll + extra upgrade slot for everyone

[normal lagoon]

Eh.

[spiral path]

if you do your 150 boss kills a day on kruk, you are swimming in necklaces to upgrade

[normal lagoon]

Imagine killing 150 bosses a day, nty :}

[spiral path]

I usually only do it on weekends

[void shell]

is it not like guranteed lol

[normal lagoon]

Too busy losing 3.5h a day to FFXIV Savage prog 🥴
(which is starting in 10m, oh boy, dying to a Behemoth wall for hours again)

[sullen parrot]

im confused on how to pass pincermins on AC even with this
#1388287254623158426 message

[normal lagoon]

You don't, you cry 🙂

[warm cloud]

Convince me to come play FF14 again

[normal lagoon]

Impossible challenge. It's not a great time.

Wait for 8.0 IMO

[warm cloud]

Am too completionest for FF14 lol

[normal lagoon]

I mean, you'll NEVER get bored if you're a completionist. I am for the most part, but I've given up on many things.

[warm cloud]

You should see my WoW account back when wow was good

[normal lagoon]

Same 🙂 and I played all the way through to BfA.

[warm cloud]

99% achievement completion lol

Like 1200 mounts

[red rapids]

i can explain how to do it if you want

[warm cloud]

I should start FF14 but do it like I do other MMOs and just vibe with the “only go to a different area when this one is 100%” and just play passively

[sullen parrot]

sure

[red rapids]

ew. the 50 million side quests in ARR alone would drive me to madness

[normal lagoon]

I mean if you enjoy a challenge, you've got Ultimates 🙂
I'm good with just Savage for now; I'll tackle Ultimates (besides UWU) someday.

[warm cloud]

I tend to zone out for like an hour at a time and come back to hella progress

[warm cloud]

Brain go brrr on Netflix movies for hours and I end up playing for like 6 hours but only remember 1 hour of doing stuff

[red rapids]

so youre going to start top right, drop your crystal, cast the skull as you walk to the left auto attack the mob top left from the right side of the platform. go down cast skull, to the right, auto attack, when those die cast raise dead. the method then stays the same, adding raise dead between the two top platforms. so you go from bottom right to top right, cast skull, move to the left and cast raise dead then auto the mob, go down cast skull move to the right and auto. rinse and repeat

if you do it enough you'll get a feel for the rhythm. i had to take a few points out of AC skull talent because the skulls were lasting too long and killing things at bad times. if you get to a platform and your skull is still bouncing around kill mobs then its too long

[open prairie]

uh how does wisdom momument work

[spiral path]

interesting, makes sense, I've just been splitting mine... I'm guessing Lava will reset explorer again, seeing as I'm lvl 22 on explorer already

[simple wadi]

It's just a memory matching game.

[winter shadow]

٠

[rustic urchin]

turns out 2 min claims definitely are fast enough for a full set of gshard. Now, if I wanted to do it for 9 more hours for the others chars? We'll have to wait and see

Also the mutant crabbos may limit me on the other traps...

[normal lagoon]

Just like the last two.
If you mean the game, have you never played Memory Match before? Surely you must have.

If you say you haven't, I will claim you're lying because it's in so many other games.

[simple wadi]

With the Equal Spread talent, spreading out ~10 - 15 opals while keeping 300 on the one you want to level results in about 7% more exp than just putting all opals on one villager. And comes with the side benefit of leveling other villagers.

[normal lagoon]

It's very nice having ~1.5T/h EXP on the other villagers for sure

[stone wing]

School luck

[spiral path]

I had 85 on each, which is why all my dudes are much higher than any benefits that matter

[stone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1005895352655810570.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[spiral path]

you are getting 1.5T/h with 10-15 opals?!

[sullen parrot]

i keep fucking tping out bro this is so buns

[red rapids]

so when you doing it, click beside the flies

then after you get up the rope to that platform you can press up

[sullen parrot]

good idea, im used to just W for the ropes

[red rapids]

yah unfortunetly that stupid portal being right beside the rope caught me quite a few times lol

[spiral path]

is 300 opals the sweet spot? I just did a couple of tests and 20 on each with 357 on Bolaia gets me the highest on Bolaia, I could go for 30 on each and 317, but don't want to keep burning wishes just to test it...

[zinc torrent]

No samurai

[simple wadi]

Yeah I recently put it to 25 opals on all villagers with 312 on Bolaia and Bolaia went from 789T T to 783T. Not a huge difference, but her exp did go down. But my other chrs went from 44T to 59T.

[red rapids]

lol i need to do whatever you guys are doing, im doing like 40k/h with like 30 opals on them

[spiral path]

at 30 each, Bolaia went down from 2992T to 2971T, I did not check the rest

but the rest are at 276T now

my Villagers are currently at 22/62/81/39/202

[sullen parrot]

nope still cant get it sadly
im doing it wrong probably

[normal lagoon]

20 opals yeah

[zinc torrent]

Having nearly +200k% exp gain from bravery alone helps

[spiral path]

I'm dumb and was reading the number wrong, I thought I had billions on my other characters, it was T as well

[spiral path]

wow, what's your bravery mult? I only have +68k% from bravery

[red rapids]

Honestly practice just going in circles, not even trying to beat it. When you get top right, the mob should be dead, cast your skull, as you run left cast raise undead, auto the newly spawned left mob once and run down, the mob at the bottom should be dead, cast skull, run right to the mob that should be up, auto it and then cast raise dead and keep running back up right where the mob should be dead, cast skull, rinse and repeat. Get a flow going. Like I said you may have to take points out of skull duration so they're not bouncing around still kill mobs when they're not supposed to be

[zinc torrent]

3.28x

[prime compass]

when trying to unlock the chemical plant in gaming do i just have to keep taking 2-3% chances, or am i being too impatient?

[spiral path]

love that for you, I've gotten mult twice, ever

[sullen parrot]

this is the lowest i can get this to

but ill practice more

[prime compass]

suffering from success

[simple wadi]

You're being too patient. Spam it at 0.1%

[prime compass]

seriously?

[sullen parrot]

yep, spam at 0.1% thats what i did as well

[spiral path]

yup

[prime compass]

[red rapids]

And when you do finally get the hang of the timing, if you still fall short then count how many times you're proccing arcane crystal. 3 times? Are the number of mobs you're able to spawn high enough at 3x to clear? Are you not even proccing 3 times? May need to grind and lower your kill cost

[zinc torrent]

Lot of it was merit multi week, +1000 right there

[spiral path]

I have... 118

[bleak gazelle]

[zinc torrent]

On your alt, right? Right...?

[spiral path]

put a classic react, ace, so I can click it

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-ben-gif-25012261

[sullen parrot]

ben

[prime compass]

ben

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-yes-gif-27130395

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I dropped some gold food on bean stalk

[bleak gazelle]

nice, gotta work on those dumplings and cake now

[prime compass]

does the beanstalk basically just replace equipping golden food? or do you still want golden food on your characters?

[bleak gazelle]

you want both, bonus from beanstalk is additive with bonus from held
and not like you generally need other food equipped

[pastel kayak]

Farming crystals in world 1 today @bleak gazelle

I can hold more then 1.3m gold food on my main

[spiral path]

use rucsack prayer, equip food, switch back to zerg. I can hold 13M like that

[pastel kayak]

Not sure if have that one yet

[slim sparrow]

what are the best bubbles to prisma first?

[slim sparrow]

thanks

[normal lagoon]

I got BOTH the last evos within like an hour or less spamming at 1 DNA vs saving up for DAYS

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle main now and what gold food I have on it

[fallow atlas]

I need help finding my reindeer

it says it's in w1, it's near big frogs and planks

but I'm not finding it

[prime compass]

if you cant find it, teleport back to the spirit valley and it changes the spot. keep repeating until you can find it

[bleak gazelle]

does it spawn in boss rooms?

[slim sparrow]

try amarok first

[prime compass]

huh i didnt think of that

did he really make them spawn in boss rooms?

[fallow atlas]

is "very close" closer than "near"?

[prime compass]

yes

[fallow atlas]

so it's not in giga frogs it seems lol

[prime compass]

but it still usually means a few rooms away

[fallow atlas]

maybe the big tree, I didn't looked there

[prime compass]

if it was giving you hints that it was close when you got to/near boards, then it shouldnt be in tree, or it wasnt for me

but theres no harm in trying i guess

[fallow atlas]

how can it be closer to the Amarok than planks and giga frog but not in amarok

[prime compass]

idk it just does that sometimes. one time it told me that it was closer when i was in the frog dungeon lobby

thats why i just kept reseting until it gave me one i could find

[fallow atlas]

huh

[prime compass]

[fallow atlas]

it kept saying it were "somewhere in this world" even inside the tree

LMAO

do I have to go walking to finish the quest?

[prime compass]

no

[fallow atlas]

good

[prime compass]

after you kill it you can teleport back to him

[bleak gazelle]

probably how the maps are categorized. wood mush is the last "regular map" which would put it closer to the boss arena map in the code

[prime compass]

well one reddit post did tell me not to trust the "getting closer" stuff, and that it only matters when it says that you are on the right map

[spiral path]

Before and after, thank you Bravery gods. Got mult on 55

[fallow atlas]

my first master class :)

[prisma skiff]

now experience the pain that is farming pre-totm medallions

[fallow atlas]

luririca is very creeped up tbh, she's 30 levels higher than my main player

[bleak gazelle]

you can kind of see it here on the wiki, since wood mush are on b13 and boss is FB, it's either right after the B section maps are further down the array. good to know i guess

[fallow atlas]

which is already creeped up tbh

[devout thistle]

Statue and food question. Is there a guide or anything that can give me an idea of when I should farm for the onyx statue or the beanstalk?

[alpine rune]

Would y’all believe me if I said it’s been 3 hour’s since I started this worship td?

[jolly lichen]

https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Kravyn
So I'm mostly marble gear at a minimum, aside from the odd tool here or there... rounding off my skills to 1000+ total each, and just about to finish eclipse skulls for W4 and start on w5+
Summoning I have at 210 endless, I have the gambit bonus up to "w7 bonus" so I think that means I have all of them...
Is there anything major other than spelunking that is glaringly obvious that I've missed before I start pushing w7?

[zinc torrent]

Yes, especially if youre running 1/2 of it at 1 fps

[jolly lichen]

easily one of the biggest time sinks next to summoning

[alpine rune]

I laughed at this here’s a star⭐️

[alpine rune]

Fax

I’m on wave 190 tho about to hit 200

[sullen parrot]

at what talent level does the tenteyecle skill become 4 second reduction instead of 3

[jolly lichen]

goblin gorefest?

[bleak gazelle]

400

[alpine rune]

Around 400+

[sullen parrot]

bro

[alpine rune]

Nah wakawaka war

[sullen parrot]

im stuck at pincermins for a while then

[fallow atlas]

I didn't even started going for all 4 star cards yet 🤣

guess now I'll do both at once

[alpine rune]

Go do alchemy

[jolly lichen]

exactly 400 I just leveled 1 at a time to answer for you lmao

[fallow atlas]

can any character get the medallions?

[sullen parrot]

goated lol, thanks

[bleak gazelle]

any WW in tempest mode

[sullen parrot]

what exactly? is there a bubble that increases max talent levels?

[fallow atlas]

WW is?

[alpine rune]

Nah but I can do it after beating wave 200

[fallow atlas]

wind waker?

[bleak gazelle]

windwalker, the class you just got

[jolly lichen]

uhhh alchemy is just everything tbh lmao

if you think alchemy doesn't touch it, it does

[alpine rune]

No but u can boost- nvm u haven’t unlocked mk right

[sullen parrot]

who

[alpine rune]

All things are made equal through alchemy

[alpine rune]

Multikill

[jolly lichen]

all hail hypnotoad

[sullen parrot]

the bubbles of them? i did

[alpine rune]

@bleak gazelle I lost at wave 200 u want me to go into ww mode?

[alpine rune]

No like the afk stat

[bleak gazelle]

i was responding to Liru

[prisma skiff]

[alpine rune]

Ohh Aii

[jagged cove]

i learned from my misstake and placed that rattler

[sullen parrot]

i did

[jolly lichen]

you have enough power to do r150 with 4 pets if you haven't already, fyi

[jagged cove]

you mean that dream one ?

[fast geyser]

is wave 30 in world 5 warship supposeto just run straight through and boost mob moment?

[alpine rune]

Ah than just up ur dmg than it does matter if they don’t respawn fast if ur mk is high enough

[jagged cove]

that one was 115 i think lava nerfed it

[fast geyser]

idk how explain ;-;

[alpine rune]

Some mobs yes that’s why void boi is important

[fast geyser]

purple ones?

[jolly lichen]

I could also be misremembering it. It happens more often than I care for.

[alpine rune]

Ik exactly what ur talking about u mean the blue ones right

[alpine rune]

Yea those I’m not good with the colors

[jagged cove]

its ok but i already did it with 4 pets

[bleak gazelle]

not terrible

[jolly lichen]

aye that's all that matters lmao

[alpine rune]

I just know yellow stuns u

[alpine rune]

Bless ur stamps

[jolly lichen]

skill xp go brrr

[alpine rune]

Damn I gotta lvl up my towers now

[jagged cove]

is rift 56 sneaking one ?

[jolly lichen]

yes

[jagged cove]

good so i get it in like 6 hours max

because so far its only afk and my dmg just got boosted from arena

[bleak gazelle]

your toolbox isn't loading, unfortunately, but why are you using marble gear?
either stick with kruk (or half kruk/godshard), move to emperor, or the new w7 stuff
the bonuses on marble are useless for just about everything now

[alpine rune]

Can’t wait for more caverns my explorer is lvl 19

[jolly lichen]

working all towards godshard/emperor

[bleak gazelle]

even then though, the respawn from kruk would've been more useful

[jolly lichen]

I was mostly calling that out as what I'm currently working on. Emperor for all 8 is in reach if I focus on the bar production.

which I am archer swapping currently 😛

Odd my IT won't load for you 🐸 I copied it straight from data lol

[jagged cove]

i'm behind (speking of gear) because rn i suck with my gstacks

[bleak gazelle]

anyway, since i can't see it
my guess is probably alchemy, tri bubble for damage (uses late sailing resources) and then maybe some of the farming bubbles (whiuch also means farming)

did you upload your profile or just copy the link?

[jolly lichen]

ah. There I've uploaded it

[jagged cove]

funny is that all things i do is guildless because i'm lazy to do daily tasks

and i think there was one thing that wants me to make guild points and idk what was it rn exept shimmer island

[spare talon]

So I got DB about 3 months ago and this is the first time I've tried him. 🤣 Does it matter where I try to get bones? Is there a tutorial for this anywhere? Do I just go wherever and keep leveling things in the grimoire or what?

[jagged cove]

you will soon see what pain DB is look at accuracy and you will see

[pseudo steppe]

Is there anyone I can ask about trapping setups? What to do for it, which to place etc

[spare talon]

I lasted for a whole hour or two with WW 3 months ago. Hopefully it's not that bad. :P

[jolly lichen]

I have just finished getting the bubbles unlocked for w7, so those are definitely bubbles I need to work on. I appreciate your input and time you put into to your response I can't imagine a deep dive would tell you much else. Thanks!

[jagged cove]

WW is only depending on abomination kills DB hella lacks accuracy and AC it just how fast you can kill mobs to spawn arcane ones

[spare talon]

Well, I hated WW. Hopefully I like DB better.

[jagged cove]

WW is the easiest in my opinion

[jolly lichen]

DB best of the 3 for sure. Can't deny the usefulness of exalted tho

[spare talon]

I'll cycle back around and get the others at some point. I've had all 3 master classes for 3 months, got stuck on BEAN, for pete's sake, and gave up. lol.

[alpine rune]

Db easy to keep track of upgrades
Ww easiest to grind in my opinion dust gain is easy

[jolly lichen]

fair dust gain does have an advantage

[spare talon]

So with DB, do I just fight...wherever?

[jolly lichen]

depends on the bones you need

[jagged cove]

whenever you have accuracy for it

because he gets tons and tons of deffence but like non for accuracy

[spare talon]

It's kinda hard to tell. The Wraith form only lasts for 5 seconds or something.

[jolly lichen]

oh lol

you gotta start back at world 1 and upgrade yourself

[dusk knoll]

how to unlock last cauldron ?

[spare talon]

I'm in World 1. Did some mushrooms, now on frogs, did some tiny bits of the first four grimoire items. (They're at like...3 or 4, lol.)

[jagged cove]

alchemy lvl

[spare talon]

L80 Alchemy. :)

[sullen parrot]

why does one click get me to level 52 insta on any skill? rift slug and...?

[jagged cove]

last skill

[fast merlin]

should i wait for the multiplier to reach the max linear growth?

[spiral path]

sure, unless you love the mini games

[fast merlin]

is it more optimal that way or can I do it more frequently which yields about the same rewards

[spiral path]

it should average out

[jolly lichen]

by the time your potential multi is that high, no individual minigame will make enough difference to not let it max out 🤷‍♂️

[sullen parrot]

drops it to 46 after reset
im just trying to get only a singular skill point into that, seems i cant

[spiral path]

ok, wisdom time, please wish me luck ( my game loves to crash on monument tries)

[jolly lichen]

mobile?

[jagged cove]

why you want only one point into it ?

[sullen parrot]

im trying to pass through pincermin in AC form
trying some stuff for it
sometimes the skull last too long and doesnt reduce cooldown of respawn dead

[jagged cove]

thats not skull problem thats rng problem

don't forget its redused

[prime compass]

well if my tried and true method of "beating the worlds coloseum" holds true, i should be good for w6, since i just cleared the colloseum with 189 million points

[jagged cove]

hm i fell like its not showing right kills it should be lower (jk)

[bleak gazelle]

• Stamp level to 10K+ to guarantee gilded stamps, still a lot of levels you can g t manually

• Bubbles in general, autoreview can help you out, but 2nd and 17th are good, as well as other damage/skill ones
  ** W7 yellows are good too, don't forget to use Alch Shop Bargain Tag daily

• Killroy merit bonus is pretty strong bubt takes a lot of points to get going (the bonus is slightly different than worded)

• Construction - work on boosting all your lower level buildings to optimize construct mastery (this will also help level shrines) - in particular Trapper Drone will be one of the last things to work on. If you have a class reset, you may want to pick up a 2nd DK

• I would still swap your board around to get more xp% directionals onto a solo DK and move others to cog production of any kind

• Upgrade worship skulls and traps

• Make sure you're doing s.chow/wow on your 2nd DB, prisma Diamond Chef bubble when you can (or wait till you get the higher meal cap)

• Farming - you should probably setup for a bean trade to work on your GMOs, at 95 crops and 120+ level you can be further along, looks like you'vev just been sitting on buying land plots and neglecting everything else

• Sneaking - setup this way https://imgur.com/30yVjmc with the new Funeral Flowers buff, if you can keep sneaking open, yellow belts will replace lotuses (then swap back to lotuses to farm) somewhere around M4 probably (maybe m3 though too?)

• Obols - you'll need to reroll all your DR ones for the +1%

• Cards - make sure your last 2 chars have cards equipped, make sure you aren't equipping passive cards, whether they're natural or from skill mastery (1st AC)

[jagged silo]

[jagged cove]

for that sneaking equip what if i'm at top and i can have just rose one each char can i then combine it with jade gain or is there something specific to it

[jolly lichen]

I genuinely forgot about rerolling obols
Cheers for this!

[bleak gazelle]

rift slug
symbols talent
ES family bonus
Arctis minor link
equinox
w5 achievement
duper bit
sneaking m3
super talent

[bleak gazelle]

if you can't unlock double/don't need b/c stuck on m1, do whatever you want
could go meteorites to farm faster or whichever belts

[prime compass]

like i said earlier, suffering from success

[bleak gazelle]

best bet is to unlock rift

which i should do...on my alt

[zinc torrent]

Doubt they got it, but timmy talented, too.

[sullen parrot]

this is genuinely so ass, im like 1 hour still trying this

[bleak gazelle]

that's technically a w5 achievement
-# but fuck timmy he isn't real
-# fuck justice, it's not real

[sullen parrot]

i need to get back when i max out talent levels i guess, fun

[prime compass]

i need to get 180 on my DK orb for my next rift, and idk if im ready for that yet

[zinc torrent]

I was referring to the last duperbit, but they arent over lvl 500 regardless

[bleak gazelle]

wait wtf is timmy talented

oh right

[jolly lichen]

I've managed to get most of the secret achievements but timmy eludes me...

[bleak gazelle]

fuck timmy either way

[jagged cove]

i will do reset in few hours this is what i run (i don't even need to have detect this much rn) so i just smap items and go with gain ig

[rancid mist]

Wasn’t that hard for me, just throw on some speed potions and manually play for the duration

[jagged silo]

lvl300 boat

[jolly lichen]

almosssst

[bleak gazelle]

i would go farm some veils and pre-farm more lotuses in prep for m2 and when you can double up

[prime compass]

sorry i dont manually play. its idle on, so i only do auto

[jagged silo]

I'm little far

[rancid mist]

Weird take but ok

[jolly lichen]

I'm not playing favorites or anything

[jagged silo]

[jolly lichen]

(also still super far away)

[prime compass]

god wouldnt give me an auto button to click if it wasnt his intention for me to click it

[jolly lichen]

or maybe he'd give everyone an auto button as a test to see whose willing to work when it is optional

[jagged cove]

how far you are with tresures so i can sink into lower depths

[jolly lichen]

artifacts? they're kinda messy but I'm getting there.

[jagged cove]

ye artifacts pardon

[jolly lichen]

language is a tool I figured what you meant 😛 just double checking lol

[prime compass]

nvm i hadnt attempted it yet, auto worked fine

[jagged cove]

yes i suck

[jolly lichen]

nah, hit w7 and artifacts will pop off

[jagged cove]

already in W7

[jolly lichen]

sail harder

[prime compass]

then pop off already

[jolly lichen]

lmao idk I feel like spelunking made my artifact chance silly. I do have 4 enders tho

[prime compass]

phew thankfully rift 20 didnt add another 0 to the afk kill requirement, i was worried it would go from 1 million to 10 million or 100

[bleak gazelle]

@pastel kayak when are you going to get more golden cakes

[jagged cove]

i normaly make arti to tier 3 now i place some of my sailors for boat upgrades and also making my arties tier 4

my highest boat is 232 lvl

[prime compass]

if i am still working on discovering artifacts, 2 artifact chances is better than loot value and speed right?

[jolly lichen]

I would go for that swap just bc speed feels useless

my speed is already at the minimum threshold, whether my captain has speed or not

[limber roost]

How much kills per hour should i have at the end maps push to w7?

[glossy pike]

10m was reasonable

[limber roost]

🙁

[bleak gazelle]

where balance of pain

[limber roost]

@glossy pike im strugglin

[jagged cove]

where are the prayers

[prime compass]

[jagged cove]

and also where is this one

you can't go to W7 if your printing gonna look like dog just watered it

[bleak gazelle]

one day i['ll remove that from my vman

[limber roost]

I didn't feel like i had any issues with printing atm

I want dmg T.T

[prime compass]

are you printing 3 trillion copper ore an hour?

[limber roost]

No

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/too-much-caffeine-you-gotta-pump-up-those-numbers-those-are-rookie-numbers-in-this-racket-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-15579581

[jagged cove]

you have this one ?

[limber roost]

I'm a month into the game

Yes

[jagged cove]

max it and use it you will gain deffence and accuracy from other upgrades

[jolly lichen]

who needs defense and accuracy

[jagged cove]

no jawbreaker ?

i know it makes them more tanky but money

[jolly lichen]

ehhh I've only got 3 vault upgrades left I'm not really hunting money as much as materials

[limber roost]

LMAO kph stayed the same

[jolly lichen]

exactly, but your drop rate and kills for portal/deathnote went up.

[jagged cove]

because you have low multikill show me your cards man

[bleak gazelle]

oh, no, get rid of fibers of absence if youo're in multikill range

[jolly lichen]

maybe run bubo active and pump some alchemy multikill tho

[limber roost]

lmao aye dont judge me i forgot bout those

[prime compass]

total drop rate 😔

[jagged cove]

if you want to do pushing then something similar to this

[limber roost]

ty

[jagged cove]

and this set

[limber roost]

if i wanted to candy push what would be the best setup? without the emperor cards

[jagged cove]

afk gain and multikill i think

[prime compass]

not total damage and multi kill?

[jagged cove]

for drop rate (if not active crystal farming) i use this

[jolly lichen]

I do run jb on everyone that isn't my DK

[jagged cove]

i forgot dmg mb

[jagged cove]

ah good

[limber roost]

ty

[jagged cove]

i need to unlock it still btw xd

[jolly lichen]

my DK can have it when I have a level 900 wiz I think??

[spiral path]

yo @bleak gazelle which one should I push first? I've been slacking and it doesn't look like it will win the meritocracy vote this week so might as well

[jagged cove]

well that would be all for idleon for me today now i go play something else bye chat

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-gif-22150141

whenever i go to kick the rocks to summon the minibosses in w5 it reminds me of my traumatic first experience. i walked into the room, kicked probably 5-7 of the rocks, went to go and fight them, and got wiped

[spiral path]

I got you beat, I summoned 5 and walked through the portal by accident

[jolly lichen]

the number of times I've kicked rocks and jumped into the hole is... way too many

that lesson had to be learned many times.

[prime compass]

but you dont have me beat, because i accidentally clicked on the portal

the number of times ive lost something because of the portals is almost uncountable

[jolly lichen]

yo this is so good

when I thought it was only artifact chance until now

[prime compass]

would you happen to be an idleon player?

[jolly lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/didnt-read-dont-care-dracthyr-dont-care-gif-26418852

I read what I needed to read, immediately bought it.

-# read more weeks later

[prime compass]

ignorance is bliss, but not as blissfull as truly understanding

[jolly lichen]

that bliss doesn't have an expiration date thankfully

[prime compass]

i should've made the dementia set earlier, i didnt realize how easy it was, and its a decent buff

[jolly lichen]

🐸 w6 > dementia

it is very cheap to make lol

[prime compass]

i only have up to w4's anvil tabs

i need to sample all of the resources for anvil, and get nullo salts for tab 5

[jolly lichen]

salts 🥲

[pastel kayak]

Not sure yet

[crimson ether]

i just got the autmation arm that is supposed to auto claim from anvil but it isnt working? is this a bug or do i need to do something special for it to work?

[prime compass]

i still have no idea how it works, it seems to put the ores in, but not take out ingots. maybe it only does it when its full?

[crimson ether]

nah it wasnt even pulling my bars when it was full either

it wont pull from the forge or the anvil

im super confused...

[jolly lichen]

I toggle it off and on when it stops taking my ores but it never deposits the bars for me... same thing for my anvil production items like thread, I occasionally have to toggle that for automation...

[simple wadi]

It only pulls one time per day - at reset

[crimson ether]

ah

[prime compass]

[crimson ether]

LMAO

that would explain it

[jolly lichen]

dang that's so useless lmao

[crimson ether]

nah just need to invest points in capacity now then

[jolly lichen]

for production?

well I guess you could increase forge cap @ hole...

[crimson ether]

no for anvil

bars not that big of a deal

just pull out bars when i need

[jolly lichen]

oh

they will be lol

[crimson ether]

i was thinking more for greenstacks cause i need them for equinox

[jolly lichen]

juice this bubble for your anvil production tho

[crimson ether]

yeah i have been as much as i can

right now im trying to get my salts straight

and pushing rift

im still pretty new only been playing for a few weeks

[jolly lichen]

salts are such a pain to get rolling

[crimson ether]

yeah im at the point where my prints are too small to sustain my materials and im stuck in div jail for 2 more days

i also

just barely missed choccy chip and im so sad

it was right there for the taking but i had just unlocked cooking

[jolly lichen]

that's rough. not nearly as bad as missing the double card chips but

[crimson ether]

i missed it by 2 hrs

i have the first slot double

just need the last slot double

[prime compass]

i have basically no chips

[jolly lichen]

you should get some chips

[prime compass]

total defence, total accuracy, and drop rate if its below 5x. basically useless, basically useless, and literally useless

[crimson ether]

i spent a lil $$ to try and get doot so i didnt have to div jail. but atp im so close to goat im not even bothering anymore

[jolly lichen]

I'm 99% sure I have this jewel idk why it's in my shop

[prime compass]

because it is this weeks jewel

[jolly lichen]

oh it's just a fixed rotation for everyone

[crimson ether]

yeah you can get dupes from what i ready

[prime compass]

yeah

[jolly lichen]

I guess I just assumed it would rotate one in that I didn't have

[prime compass]

nope

[jolly lichen]

boo hiss

[tiny atlas]

only the gem shop jewels dont have dupes

[jolly lichen]

oh I think I'm only missing the AC jewel anyway

and whatever spelunking might give

[crimson ether]

sooo close it hurts

[prime compass]

so far it hurts

[jolly lichen]

I unlocked every div god with <10% odds every time

[crimson ether]

lucky,,,

i got rabbit on a 1% but everything else was 100%

[jolly lichen]

I mean not every time I clicked it but I never held out for 100%

[tiny atlas]

i unlocked everyone then like 4 after and only ever gotten one 10%

[crimson ether]

actually i think i got nobi on 5%

[tiny atlas]

i failed 10% 16 times when i was unlocking that w7 dude

[prime compass]

is 2.7 billion total coin multiplier enough? or do i need more?

[jolly lichen]

ayyye can move on to w5

[tiny atlas]

not nearly enough

[jolly lichen]

don't judge my clammie slaughter

[crimson ether]

LMAO

mf trying to extinct them hoes

[tiny atlas]

i have this and cant even buy anything from w7 shop

[jolly lichen]

needed them pearls 😏

had to make cake

[crimson ether]

yeah im waiting to get out of div jail and i need more rift progress for skill mastery

[crimson sorrel]

Halfway there

[crimson ether]

troll armor gonna be huge

[spiral path]

because that is a very low number

[crimson ether]

i have a str and a wis set of chizoar rn

[jolly lichen]

do I just park here until 1m plunder?

[prime compass]

why isnt it going past Q? i dont like it

[crimson ether]

same

XDD i was thinking where the E

[tiny atlas]

i havent done any coin farming in a while what am i even missing thats this big

[spiral path]

lava is nothing if not inconsistent

[tiny atlas]

im at 100b gmush

[spiral path]

yeah, about that

[tiny atlas]

so its all just gmush kills? wow

[spiral path]

not JUST gmush

[jolly lichen]

gmush murder = money

[tiny atlas]

any other big sources?

dont think ive ever seen a money guide ngl

but i know dr is big multi for money

[spiral path]

how's your g food bonus?

[jolly lichen]

there are a couple premium items

[spiral path]

I am wearing the premium attire that triples money

[tiny atlas]

5,5k still working on my summoning

[jolly lichen]

and probably a premium helmet but lava moved where you can read the bonus and I'm lazy asf

[tiny atlas]

i dont have any p2w stuff just coolbird

[crimson ether]

i fuked up my summoning so hard early because i went straight for mana gen instead of hp and dmg and im paying the price rn

[tiny atlas]

its lowk better like that

[crimson ether]

yeah but im stuck on like wave 4

with like 0 essence generation

[spiral path]

essence regen should be your priority when not pushing endless

[prime compass]

ha ha ya boy is part of the fake 0.1% crowd now

[tiny atlas]

wait mana gen??? lmao though u meant essence

[crimson ether]

i just got w6 2 days ago

[jolly lichen]

you'll be fine. Summoning is just daily essence dump until suddenly you have to pour hours into clearing waves

[jolly lichen]

same lmao

[tiny atlas]

until youre stuck inf 170 and have no idea what to do

[jolly lichen]

clear summoning stone bosses until you're ~x4/5 on all, then hit 200 endless

[prime compass]

so uhhh do i just put the 0.1% on my vman orrrr....?

[spiral path]

boss stones, gambit for doublers

[jolly lichen]

heck forgot about gambit

[spiral path]

did you turn it in?

[prime compass]

turn it in where looks at number and letter in front of name 👀

[jolly lichen]

give to codfrey

[tiny atlas]

cant go much further with 15T dmg

[jolly lichen]

if you're not w7 give it to whoever you want

[spiral path]

just candy w6, kill emp, get to w7, ez

[tiny atlas]

think my douiblers are good

[prime compass]

i mean i could but i only have like 3,700 hours of candies and between 55 and 10's of thousands of hours of random time

[jolly lichen]

I'd double yellow spikes before essense gain

[jolly lichen]

and blue jewelled

[spiral path]

I have almost these many days in candy...

[prime compass]

exaftly, im pretty poor. i cant waste them now

[tiny atlas]

damn didnt know it worked on jeweled

[jolly lichen]

show me your doublers? I feel like you should be able to push on yellow/blue

oh nvm those are your dubs LOL

yeah double spikes and jewelled and clear yellow/blue I'm sure

I've got less damage than you and have both on x5

[spiral path]

you shouldn't be mixing essence gen and stats, you push essences, go reset doublers for stats when pushing a new endless or boss stone, go back to essences

[prime compass]

wait was doublers a thing you could reset in the hole? i didnt read

[jolly lichen]

fair, I don't double any essence gain bc summoning feels like a daily chore as is

[tiny atlas]

yeah lemme reset my doublers

[jolly lichen]

wishes

[tiny atlas]

i have enough doublers to be doing that no?

[prime compass]

yeah thats what i meant. good to know, i was worried i might end up wasting my doublers

[spiral path]

you will eventually plateau on pushing summoning, so you go back to essence farming for a while

[jolly lichen]

for now. Until you get cyan 🙂

[tiny atlas]

stuck at mushroom boss for now im getting close

[spiral path]

gosh darn it! I claimed summoning xp! NOOOOO

[jolly lichen]

fair, just isn't fast enough to gain passively without doublers at a certain point? kind of like meals just never cook fast enough to level until you prisma diamond chef?

[spiral path]

let me check, I currently have my non generation doublers, I'll snapshot a before and after

[simple wadi]

For essence generation

[jolly lichen]

I don't have the last color, but this is where I'm at... just holding the last doubler bc idk where to put it, or if it's worth using before resetting with cyan/teal/whatever it is

I've got wishes saved to reset when spelunking gets there... I should actually go to spelunking jail already

[spiral path]

here I am no essence doublers, all essence doublers. With Teal, I use 27/32 doublers