lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[bleak gazelle]

and maybe some info in #1388287254623158426

[amber bough]

is there a spot that shows me what to star?

[cunning path]

whats the best maps for farming the 1k fragments on the master classes?

[stone wing]

doublers?

[amber bough]

on the summoning chart?

[stone wing]

if u mean summoning doublers then here, #1303761365273415700 message

[normal lagoon]

I want to say I did it on like Poops for AC, but that was moreso for the tachyons I was getting at the time.

I don't even know if there is a best map for anyone; I just ran them all on auto overnight a few nights and eventually got them all

Low number of platforms + good mob density is really what you're looking for.

[haughty fiber]

doesnt this mean if no doot you can use hole instead?

[stone wing]

yes but its still less gods linked then doot

[haughty fiber]

oh is it limited to a certain god?

[stone wing]

no its a limited amount

doot links all god, while people who dont have doot can link about 4 gods at the same time max (idk if theres more)

[primal jasper]

How 4? It's 3

[stone wing]

world 7 coral kid

• 2 from hole then normal links through altar

[primal jasper]

Oooo nice

[normal lagoon]

(technically 5 if ES the bonus links mostly used for Purrmep and Kruk though)

[stone wing]

yeah thats why i wasnt sure cause i dont know how es one works

https://tenor.com/view/tomato-emoji-pensive-pensive-emoji-throwing-tomato-gif-2764713520105295709

[normal lagoon]

It basically works the same way via a talent.

TL;DR: The 1s digit determines which god you link to, so you'll mostly have 01/04, 91/94, or XX1/XX4 points in it (for Arctis/Goharut, respectively, unless you're a Dooter, then you leave it at 0 or max it if you're divving or not lol)

[bleak gazelle]

2nd 📌 covers polytheism

[normal lagoon]

People can barely read and/or process information and you want them to find PINS?!

[bleak gazelle]

but pretty pictures

[stone wing]

i see

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1114028526883053699/1335993831434485820/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[normal lagoon]

I feel like the talent would be more easily understood if it just said you link to a god based on the 1s digit of the talent point. It's like GET THE POWER OF A SECOND GOD! When you don't even know wtf divinity is yet since you just made it to W4

[stone wing]

oh well its lava

[normal lagoon]

Oh for sure

He has a unique way of sharing information that, while comical and I do enjoy (mostly), can be very ❓ at times

[stone wing]

i js want my 50% gold bonus and ima grind main div

6mil div per hour

[normal lagoon]

Given how few gold balls I feel like I get despite having ~+700%, I don't think the 50% is that big a deal, especially compared to a Pocket Div

[stone wing]

well its still gonna help

i have doot anyways

[normal lagoon]

(before someone asks how 700%: Reindeer + Arcade Bonus Supered is 400, Hedgehog is 200, AC bonus is like 30%, Palette is like 20%, Doot on Coral Kid is 50%)

((took a wild guess on palette since I'm afk atm))

[stone wing]

how do i get the balls to super

[normal lagoon]

So far the only way I've seen in my 12w of being here was the Fall event

[stone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1241352147644321824.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

i came back just after fall event ended

[normal lagoon]

Yeah, it's kinda weird to not be able to get them, even via a jackpot in the arcade, or the bonuscade or nothing

I have not seen a single one anywhere, and you need five to super one

And I have 8 left after supering the summoning xp multi, cook speed multi, and meritocracy, so I'm saving for a future bonus and hopefully he'll give us more soon, I assume for Valentines

[thorn ibex]

argh i might not be able to unlock arcane cultist at this rate

my poison fart clouds are too weak

[astral vapor]

finally got my shit together and did some 2m clicks to get the godshard armor x_x

[thorn ibex]

oh, barely did it

[normal lagoon]

Congrats! Enjoy giving up Arcanist Form pretty quickly 🙂 it's CBT to prog early on

[normal lagoon]

Now do it 9 more times 🙂

[thorn ibex]

i had heard but if it's anything like reaper and windwalker there's at least some low hanging fruit for character or account bonuses

[normal lagoon]

There are, but...

How about you go into Arcanist Form, and check the gmush map, and you'll see what I mean

(PS: Definitely closer to WW than DB as you reprog the whole game, ZONE BY ZONE)

[thorn ibex]

i don't actually mind the 'reprog the game' minigame

[normal lagoon]

Oh that's not the problem

[thorn ibex]

i just heard that the arcanist is too weak

[astral vapor]

i hope you got some high talent level

[normal lagoon]

You can't really prog far without like 400+ talents

Tenteyecle especially

[thorn ibex]

christ

[normal lagoon]

AC is by far the slowest MC

[astral vapor]

try progging up to glublin, thats usually the first level check. then pincermen

[thorn ibex]

at least i have the fish for x4 tesseract loot

[normal lagoon]

Not just on reprog, but even the Tachyons take forever since they don't have something like Grave or Reindeer

[untold magnet]

someone mentioned CBT?

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-wojak-brap-fart-smell-sniff-stinky-nose-gif-22381733

[normal lagoon]

The first person to actually know wtf I was referring to and they had to follow it up with something weird 🫠

[untold magnet]

great minds think alike

[normal lagoon]

Laughing my ass off in the bathroom and I haven't even had my coffee yet, thanks Stove

[untold magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/hattip-jerry-messing-jerry-the-fedora-guy-fedora-gif-4268630

[thorn ibex]

if nothing else i got some nice discounts on summoning

worth the effort right there

[normal lagoon]

But yeah @thorn ibex, even if you get past the first maps and restore your Tenteyecle functionality (YEP YOU HAVE TO BUY THAT BACK!), you will get hardlocked at Glubins, Sandy Pots, or Pincermen. That said, yes there's a few early bonuses to pick up, like double statues and gold Ball Gain

[normal lagoon]

EXP too, that's the more important part

[thorn ibex]

double statues will be nice considering i'm nowhere NEAR even CLOSE to a single onyx statue

[normal lagoon]

Never pick up summoning EXP without that talent maxed if you can help it

[normal lagoon]

It also becomes Triple, Quadruple, and Quintuple in W7

(even further with Spelunking)

[stone wing]

i need masterclass merit again

[normal lagoon]

(these are Legend Point purchases FTR)

[stone wing]

Next week merit looks like genuine ass

[fast merlin]

do all plants have same evo chance or does fungi have the highest evo chance and it becomes lower for the subsequent plants

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah, people totally fucked up, voted for the worst option

[thorn ibex]

other benefit : i'm weak enough that +500 wis from arcane cultist was like.. a lot of damage

[normal lagoon]

Pretty sure not even. Chem is way rarer

[low briar]

why can i only get the last plant from each category when crop farming?

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah that's massive. For non form

[normal lagoon]

Crops only Evo forward

You have to replant them to start over

[stone wing]

a mechanic that genuinely make you depressed

[normal lagoon]

PS: LOCK a slot before planting if you want the first crop

[low briar]

but when i replant them it always starts from the second plant

[normal lagoon]

GET INB4'D

[stone wing]

Lock

[low briar]

what does that mean

[stone wing]

He basically answered ur question before u asked it

[normal lagoon]

I got my response "in before" you mentioned the problem

[low briar]

ohhhhh mb i didnt see that one

[thorn ibex]

when plants are growing you can do this

[normal lagoon]

All good, but yeah you can LOCK a slot PRIOR to planting

I had the same issue when my Crop Speed was just too damn fast: "wtf do I do? Can I lock an empty--- OH I CAN!"

[thorn ibex]

if something has a 100% chance to evolve you will never see the first crop in a seed

[normal lagoon]

I'm glad Lava had the foresight for that

[thorn ibex]

since the first time it grows it will evolve

[normal lagoon]

Without locking the plot prior to planting, yes

I have a 0s grow time with my 280 GMOs 🥴

[thorn ibex]

well with slow planting you can lock it after planting

because it takes 3.5 hours for me

[normal lagoon]

@thorn ibex Soon™

(maybe not 280 soon since that's literally EVERY crop right now, including the shit garbage W7 crops, but Soon™ you shall have 0s growth times before you know it)

More beans, always need more beans for the GMOs

[thorn ibex]

tragically far away from both any beanstalk food or onyx statues

i wish i could remove statues from the statue man..

[stone wing]

Atleast u have more bjp than me

[verbal acorn]

whats this week's exotic market bonus

which one do i pick

[thorn ibex]

the 7k ribs are i think just from a bunch of my characters idling in world 4 for several years

but ribs are also one of the least exciting golden foods

[verbal acorn]

idk man fishing's pretty exciting

[stone wing]

I only beanstalked and onyxed when i got to w7

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1114028526883053699/1335993831434485820/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[gaunt charm]

I've been farming suggmas for days, used way too much candy, and yet no recipe drop
It's not filtered, keep checking that every now and then just in case
Is there something I'm missing?
Says it's one in 50mil but I've used candy worth dozens of that not to mention the active combat time on my ES

[red rapids]

@normal lagoon do you got a sec? to explain something stupid to me

[stone wing]

i need gilded, i shoulda bought it

[thorn ibex]

ah, i can see how arcanist form is going to be a problem to level already

[red rapids]

last i heard, having about 1000 of the green drops (rare) is about where you'll get the recipe roughly

[thorn ibex]

i might fail the first room, lmao

i didn't put enough points into arcane crystal

[red rapids]

it is SUPER slow. like it takes a longgggg time to get it up and going lol

[gaunt charm]

Halfway there it seems, damn

[red rapids]

W5/W6 Frequently Asked Questions (Part 1)

Is the suggma dropped recipe bugged?

No. Rare drops, such as the recipe, are not affected by MK or KpK, meaning your millions of suggma kills are massively inflated. A better measure is the royal urns (they're the green colored drops). 1k royal urns is equivalent to the drop rate of the recipe. So if you have less than that, you haven't farmed enough.

stolen from mirai maku

[faint anchor]

How do you get the two ball stamps

[gaunt charm]

Oooh thanks!
Does that go for the Sprout Spirit drop for the Marble Gloves too?
If so, is there a known amount of stuff to measure it?

[bleak gazelle]

just get more DR, the gloves aren't really necessary for vman damage

[red rapids]

that one i dont know. the post only mentioned suggma

[normal lagoon]

Feel free to DM me or ask someone else, I'm doing a thing AFK that will take me a hot min

[red rapids]

i thought the same thing, but honestly active skilling on another person at this point is fast af. aroun lvl 10ish you can bring them to w3 equinox map, and that will get you lvl 40 in like.. a minute? and from there i think it may take another 5-10min of active skilling to get you to like 50 or 60 for the gear stuff

not kidding either lol

[bleak gazelle]

up to 3 of these

[wide osprey]

what are the best spots for bubo cranium cooking?

[dawn nymph]

Tremor Wurms

[red rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/elephant-gif-27101043

[fiery cape]

Where's the point where AFK gains beats leaving the game on for portals?

[wide osprey]

what are the best spots for bubo cranium cooking?

[red rapids]

depends on what youre trying to do. you can only have one active, so even if youre losing 40% of your active kills, having a different person active COULD be better if theyre doing something more worthwhile

[red rapids]

tremor wurms

[ember crag]

where do i farm sneaking hats? is it the base floor where theres no drops or is that just funky hat or whatever? i dont quite know

[red rapids]

theres multiple hats as you progress upwards

[ember crag]

ik... im on mastery 4 or 5 idr

[fiery cape]

I'm mostly asking because I'm one person away from getting into Clamworks

[red rapids]

ok then what are you asking?

[bleak gazelle]

each floor drops different hats
if you're talking specifically the funky hat, then you can farm it on f1 (more clicking required) or f12 (more rng required)

[carmine hill]

Yo question, i just entered W5, should i be focussing my alts on lab still (only been in W4 for like 3 days) or just go straight for divinity with all alts?

[red rapids]

have you done your vman speedrun yet?

[ember crag]

but like i saw someone afk on the floor with no drops for some reason and i thought it was for hats

[ember crag]

ohhh, its just funky hat then

well darn. i cant get any of the 3 last hats

should you farm hats on mastery 0?

[red rapids]

all div. focus on getting to the goat. goat will give you anyone in lab also = div

[remote walrus]

just curious, how far are you all with endless summoning?

[bleak gazelle]

i'd just go div, the few benefits you get from lab at the time won't matter much in the long run

[fiery cape]

Good thinking, but i gotta go check if I'm in range to benefit from that. 800k remaining

[red rapids]

80

[carmine hill]

@red rapids Perfect! thanks

[ember crag]

i havent played it in a while so 197

[bleak gazelle]

whatever mastery you can get 0% detect rate with meteorites, m0 is the easiest

[fiery cape]

okay that should work

[remote walrus]

Thanks! 🙂

[red rapids]

i stopped going any further out of boredom. once i get the mental energy again i can push more its just SOOOO boring lol. its literally click and hold the mouse button down for like 2 min xD

[ember crag]

wait is it better to go m3 there if i have 0% detect rate. and shoul all characters have meteorite

[remote walrus]

the rewards are good right?

[ember crag]

YES

[red rapids]

absolutely. its reccomended to go to at least 200 iirc

[ember crag]

this is what i get from it. and keep in mind im kinda bad

[cloud glade]

i dont think there is a single mechanic in idleon that doesnt get some boost from endless

[remote walrus]

sick, this is from almost 200?

[ember crag]

yeah 3 away from 200

[cloud glade]

and the winner bonus is SIICK multiplier

[ember crag]

chat this looks kinda unfair and rigged

[red rapids]

the real reason we do endless xD

[red rapids]

still better than the invincibilty one -.-

[remote walrus]

hahah yea! saw you get like eventually 60+ from library?

[ember crag]

which???

[bleak gazelle]

it doesn't matter too much since the xp/jade you'll get is so small compared to higher masteries, but every bit helps
yes, all with meteorites, more chances to find the hat

[ember crag]

time to farm then...

[ember crag]

which ones are invincible???

[abstract halo]

priority ? i have 17 points

[ember crag]

loot pile, exp and atom imo

but afk kills is really good too

[abstract halo]

atoms ? what is it

[ember crag]

reduction the lowest one

[abstract halo]

i miss really to much things

[cloud glade]

this is what 120 bonus look like. 100 is a reasonable push for most people if youve had the stats to pushed the boss stones a couple of times

[red rapids]

'let me summong all my monster, you have to deal the final blow though'
he has like 5million hp and only takes 1 dmg per mob he spawns, and doesnt take dmg if you hit him. so you have to literally wait for him to finish, get himself to 1 hp and then win

[ember crag]

i thought u could deal damage to him..

[red rapids]

not on the invincible one

[ember crag]

yeah, well thats why it takes so long

[cloud glade]

both invincible and damage lane buff just take forever

[remote walrus]

thanks!

[cloud glade]

which one you hate depends on if your the kind of person that hates seeing your slimes killed

[ember crag]

now im getting my 200th finally

[remote walrus]

how'd you get that last stone? or is that w7?

[cloud glade]

w7 spelunking

[bleak gazelle]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[red rapids]

i dont mind the dmg lane one too much because i just let a bunch through to boost my dmg up a lot, then hold down the mouse and move it up and down. the click dmg kills any opposition and its just a matter of time before he dies

[remote walrus]

ahh check aight

[fiery cape]

So it turns out the Vman portal cheese doesn't unlock multi-character portals

[red rapids]

yes it does lol

maybe you already did your speedrun as one unlock

[fiery cape]

Well in any case it did not work on clamworks specifically

[fiery cape]

oops

[bleak gazelle]

might be special-coded

[fiery cape]

Well in any case it seems like my SB's gonna be here for a while as the last easy push remaining

[cloud glade]

there are 2 multi lock portals on that map so i wouldnt be supirsed if you need to do it twice

[vernal phoenix]

Hey everyone, I really need some help.
I’m in World 5 right now and I’m stuck at the Lava Lamps monsters.
I’m doing around 4.5k kills, but it takes forever and I’m nowhere near reaching the end boss.
I clearly lack accuracy.
Any tips for improving accuracy in W5? Gear, cards, talents, alchemy—anything helps.

[simple wadi]

What are your prayers?

[split mauve]

Definitely alchemy bubble (shaquracy), vault is a solid source of accuracy, clickers (poppy/orion)

[normal lagoon]

Using Upgrade Stones on your accuracy class is solid when you need ACC (e.g., being a Warrior, you want WIS for Accuracy, so upgrade stone as a Mage).

[jagged cove]

can someone tell me what each class is best to use for i exclude masterclasses because idk for what do i use SB VMan

[eager fractal]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[split mauve]

Vman boosts a lot of features for the rest of your account - cooking, statues, global class exp, etc

[cedar mango]

Get the Fiber thingy prayer. IDK how its called it boosts multikill for portals and deathnote

[normal lagoon]

• Fighting
• Their skill specialties (SB for example is good at catching bugs)
• Other non-specialties (getting skill levels up as you kinda want every skill level on everyone for stuff like Skill Mastery

[split mauve]

Siege breaker is used for catching and sailing

[vernal phoenix]

@simple wadi i have balance of precision and the giant monster

[vernal phoenix]

and wich wave

[cedar mango]

Make Frosty Firefight wave 21 I thibk

[jagged cove]

well so nothing more i don't use them for rn

[limpid arch]

How can i decrease the amplifiers in the dawg den?

[normal lagoon]

Mouse Wheel/Hold down a tap/click

[split mauve]

Click and hold

[limpid arch]

Im on my tablet rn tho

[split mauve]

Tap and hold

[limpid arch]

Ah got it thanks

[simple wadi]

Farming crystal mobs / rare drops / Colosseum drops - DK
Farming mob drops - ES
Farming boss drops - Vman
Skilling - SB (Catching), DB (Farming + Fishing), Woodcutting (Any mage), WW (Trapping), Alchemy (AC)

[normal lagoon]

Note that you still want to do every skill with every class at some point. 1000 levels of Skill Mastery ain't gonna clear itself.

Also requirements for higher tiers of gear

[jagged cove]

oh Vman is for boss drops noted

[normal lagoon]

Ideally, because it has two +DR talents, one of which greatly reduces your damage too though.
If you can't handle it on VMan, doing it on any Archer is fine.

(or just don't give a shit and do it on whoever you play the most; I just do my emp kills on DK cuz whatever, he usually has the DR gear anyway)

[jagged cove]

yeah was doing it on SB because hiest dmg dealer

[split mauve]

Is that damage decrease additive or a multiplier?

[normal lagoon]

I'm pretty sure a mult

lemme check IT, I think my VMan's in skilling atm

Pff it doesn't even wanna break down damage

I HAVE to assume it's mult though

5b💎 on my DK to 432k💎 on VMan. I'm pretty sure he's not normally that weak on damage.

(I know he's in skilling, but still)

[spare talon]

If you don't collect the shovel in gaming - i.e. just use harvest all for a few days, and don't touch the shovel - will the shovel produce a bigger nugget because you waited?

[split mauve]

Good to know to be honest, I always thought it was additive, I should probably take points out of that talent when I do a speedrun

[normal lagoon]

No, you just lose nugs

[slim sparrow]

What’s the best maps to farm box and twosoul statues for onyx?

[normal lagoon]

I just have it at 0 for Fighting Preset and maxed for Skilling, and I'll do bosses on Skilling because who cares, they get oneshot anyway

[spare talon]

Thanks! Darn it. lol.

[normal lagoon]

Lol sorry; if you see that shovel glowing, you click it.

[slim sparrow]

thanks

[normal lagoon]

(and See-Saw, don't forgor See-Saw! ||or DL-6 😆||)

[jagged cove]

candy is better than active why ?

[slim sparrow]

its part of main droptable

[simple wadi]

Cryosnakes have a high population, so candy gives a lot of AFK rewards compared to using ES to farm wormhole kills.

[jagged cove]

ok thx

[normal lagoon]

For me personally, those 3 specific W3 statues are just a PITA. I'd rather spend my time crystal-farming elsewhere (like Rams), so I just candy them if I want more.

(also if something is better on ES than it is DK, I also just candy because fuck it 😆)

[jagged cove]

i mean i farmed actively 3k statues and in less than 3 hours but when i use 24h candy i just got 3k too ? how is candy better

[normal lagoon]

It depends on the location, it depends what you're farming on.

[jagged cove]

ES cryosnakes

[normal lagoon]

Your AFK gains rate could be low. You could be using someone like DK or ES who have active DR talents that do nothing while AFK.

If you candy with the wrong card setup (like Crystal + DR instead of AFK/DR)

[jagged cove]

this is my fighting afk

[normal lagoon]

When you do active EXP farming in W7, you'll greatly understand when you see a character get like 10 levels in a matter of minutes vs a character who gets like 3 in an hour from AFK

[normal lagoon]

Unless you need the damage for a new MK threshold (and even then MK is hit-and-miss depending on what you want it for), more DR or AFK would be better.

[simple wadi]

Fml finally. Took me to depth 113 just to get my first grand discovery.

[normal lagoon]

Teal Summoning is awesome, enjoy!

[jagged cove]

yes that would be the case cuz i'm giving him care just today but i have 15T on him

[normal lagoon]

Oh lol

[balmy bronze]

Can summoning doublers get reset?

[bleak gazelle]

where boop

yes, via lamp

[normal lagoon]

Sorry @simple wadi, my head's on backwards today

(I had to take apart and clean a whole ice maker, I am fried)

[simple wadi]

It's all them edibles.

[normal lagoon]

Nope, I'm sober atm

[jagged cove]

boop ?

[simple wadi]

Exactly.

[jagged cove]

idk with what i should swap it

[normal lagoon]

This is my current AFK setup (I have no doublers, ignore first/last)

[balmy bronze]

Nice to know, which upgrade should I use the doubler for, i just used it on damage and hp, but now I’m just stuck at 186 because it is the single hp perk

[normal lagoon]

#1303761365273415700 C14/Gambit section

[bleak gazelle]

generally your lowest flat damage

[jagged cove]

that got removed by emperor cards

[bleak gazelle]

you have four damage% cards on there

[granite owl]

Do you link all chars to goharut or use pocket divinity for it? 🤔

[normal lagoon]

Unless you need the damage for a new MK threshold (and even then MK is hit-and-miss depending on what you want it for), more DR or AFK (or even MK for specific things) would be better.

[bleak gazelle]

i'd link and use pocket for other things

[normal lagoon]

Link Arctis/Goharut depending if divving or not

Ideal Pocket Divs are Omniphau, Harriep, Snehe/Nobi

If you don't need everyone in the lab because your levels are crazy high, you can peel some people off of Arctis for Nobi if pushing/DN

((or just sacrifice someone to RNGesus so Doot appears/you get traded one and you can say fuck all that noise))

[granite owl]

"Get traded one" well obviously I volunteer for a free doot

[jagged cove]

this is best i can do rn

[granite owl]

Thank you for offering, now trade it. 🤣

[normal lagoon]

Alright sure here ya go

Aww dang, wouldn't you know it? Out of tradeable Doots.

[jagged cove]

someone can trade you pet for free or do you need to give one of your pets

[granite owl]

[normal lagoon]

You can do 0:1 trades

If your pet is untradeable and theirs is tradeable, they initiate a trade and you'll get the pet for free

[jagged cove]

alright looking for free doot xd

[distant dew]

what attacks should i have assigned for cranium cooking? rn i have cranium cooking in the first slot then raise dead auspicious aura and then chemical warfare

[granite owl]

HEY! Get in line!

[normal lagoon]

Crystal, CC, Raise Dead, Skull, Who cares

[jagged cove]

maybe i will steal ya one

[red rapids]

confirming the way to level construction/replace cogs is just sit here for hours claiming them and replacing any higher xp ones regardless of tier?

[normal lagoon]

(you can move Crystal elsewhere if you want, I just like it in slot 1)

[normal lagoon]

Don't bother with non-Purple, but yes

(also stick someone on Nooby if you don't have the achievement)

[red rapids]

im assuming xp cap is based on highest level of construction?

[normal lagoon]

Is there a cap?

[red rapids]

is that the 20 grey ones? i got it 🙂

[distant dew]

so no more chemcial warfare?

[granite owl]

How do you even get doot

[red rapids]

i mean per cog. my highest i seem to be able to find is like, 75%

[normal lagoon]

That's not even on Bar 1 for me, it's trash

[red rapids]

summon for pets once a week

[distant dew]

alr ty

[normal lagoon]

I think mine is Crystal > CC > Raise Dead > Skull > Fart Ghost > Tesseract, and then bar 2 is Aura > Chemical

[distant dew]

i completely forgot that i couldve used the crystal to boost my rates

[normal lagoon]

Fart Ghost also spreads poison clouds and also does damage, so it's just a better chem warfare

[distant dew]

true

[normal lagoon]

Don't go mental with that til later. I didn't really bother til just yesterday and I've cleared W7 (so far) 🙂

[red rapids]

especially when youre standing there for a while, you end up with like 30 ghosts out and the area covered in mist

[normal lagoon]

Current best crystal

[dense hornet]

Guys what is the meta for characthers?

[normal lagoon]

2x DK and Char 9/10 are HOTLY debated.

[bleak gazelle]

this one too

[normal lagoon]

@red rapids Likely the "Char 8-10" discussion

[dense hornet]

Well i have 2 dks and all classes

[jagged cove]

ha don't have one card yet

[dense hornet]

2 beginners

[simple wadi]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[red rapids]

i misunderstood and assumed he meant like.. meta builds lol

[rose glade]

help

[normal lagoon]

(from yesterday)
and if anyone wants a TL;DR of class benefits to double up on, here ya go:

• DK (MANDATORY. Make them your #8. Construction makes this mandatory)
  • Also ??? benefits when its MC comes out
• DB/BB (2x AFK MC Tokens [unnecessary], working on Apocs now and never bothering later)
  • PS: DBs are the best Death Note/Portal-pusher AFK due to Barbarian's extra KpK talent
• SB (virtually gambling on the MC benefits. Little to no benefit today)
• WW/BM (2x AFK MC Tokens [pretty unnecessary])
  • IMO will likely end up the worst class to double up on and will likely be the only class (sans VMan) to not get doubled
• ES (mediocre for Dooters, great for non-Dooters)
  • ??? benefits when MC comes out
• AC/Bubo (2x AFK MC Tokens, minor Alchemy bonuses)
• VMan (don't.)

[dense hornet]

What meta everyone uses tho?

[jagged cove]

thats what endgame players see when they click one button 😂

[dense hornet]

Which*

[normal lagoon]

Char 9/10 are very different depending on who you ask.

The only "locked in" double is DK #2 8th

A lot of people recommend ES #2 for 9th, and if you don't have Doot, I agree. I also run 2x ES, but had I had Doot before, I would have considered 2nd AC/Bubo

[simple wadi]

That's a pretty bad breakdown of why or why not to choose a class.

[normal lagoon]

Is it?

People say 3rd archer to gamble on the future, there's no good reason for 2nd SB at this point in time 🤷‍♂️

[dense hornet]

rate this

i feel like i dont have any problematic stuff here

[normal lagoon]

You don't and you have 1 of each with 2 DKs, so you're at least fine there

[jagged cove]

me with 2 SB because they are pirates

[normal lagoon]

Fuck urite that's valid, rerolling my ES to SB right now

[red rapids]

oh since polar and mirai and ace are all here..
can one of you explain how the eggshell pet works? it says it lays eggs if in the fenceyard, but i ant place it in the fence yard because its not a shiny or breedable pet, but if make a breedable or shiny one then it wont be an eggshell anymore??
tldr: is the eggshell pet spaghetti coded?

[dense hornet]

Should i go for another ES?

[normal lagoon]

You have to put a pink pet in the fence and then swap the two

Yes it's spaghet

[normal lagoon]

Do you have Doot pet?

[jagged cove]

you mean WW to SB right

[dense hornet]

Nah

[normal lagoon]

But then I'd have 0 WWs...

[dense hornet]

But i have the best treat so i think i might get it soon 0.75% chance

[normal lagoon]

It's not a bad choice for Div boosting, the upcoming MC whose benefits we do not know, and an extra link for Kattlekruk.

[simple wadi]

Why are you talking about SB when in my FAQ I recommend two WW?

[jagged cove]

you want to use 900 gems for SB valid

[normal lagoon]

I mean, two of either I'm very eh towards.

I'd personally rather gamble on the SB MC than a second WW but that's just me

[dense hornet]

Why someone would need Second WW

[normal lagoon]

(and this is why we don't have a set-in-stone Char 9/10)

[dense hornet]

Isnt one WW enough?

[normal lagoon]

Maybe when all the MCs come out, there will be a definitive meta

[simple wadi]

Then you do you. But you completely ignored the talents of WW, instead only mentioning the AFK tokens

[normal lagoon]

Which talents am I ignoring? Forge Progress? Trapping?

[dense hornet]

Having 4 DKS

[jagged cove]

forge is just for greenstacks

[dense hornet]

That would be fun

[simple wadi]

Sneaking is an always active skill. Helps to have on WW one sneaking talents and one on fighting talents. Early on, at least, which is who this conversation is aimed towards.

[normal lagoon]

If they would fit on the cog board, yes

[dense hornet]

They should lowk expand it

(that french hater guy)

[normal lagoon]

Yeah that's fair early on, but I like to think of endgame where you have virtually enough talent points to have all the sneaking ones and the other stuff you want.

hence why again: There's hot discussion on Char Slot 9 and 10

[simple wadi]

But that's not who is asking.

[dense hornet]

We def need a new characther released

[normal lagoon]

But it's still up for consideration.

[simple wadi]

If you're an endgamer, you don't give a shit either way

[dense hornet]

Having same chars lowk not fun

[normal lagoon]

Also, you can always just not check sneaking until you're on your WW, swap to Skilling preset, and there ya go

I did that for awhile with Summoning and Sneaking

[dense hornet]

summoning is so easy

[normal lagoon]

Mirai, again, it's different mindsets, I was an MC noob just a few months ago

[dense hornet]

it was the only thing that didnt stressed me out

[simple wadi]

With the new flower system, you should keep sneaking open even while active.

[rose glade]

10000 for my first upgrade in nuggets after patch lmao

[dense hornet]

das huge i only got 36k 😭

[jagged cove]

am i doing right that many of my chars are afk on gmush for get more money later (early W7)

[normal lagoon]

If you're referring to Funeral Flowers, you're talking about deep in Green Coral. A player looking at Char Slot 9/10 has no business considering that right now

[rose glade]

start farming this week.

nugget week haha

[dense hornet]

Most afk on gmush? is you doing shrines too?

[normal lagoon]

Also that would be more a point in favor of my side, wouldn't it?

[dense hornet]

YEA heck yes

[simple wadi]

You just tried to use endgamers as an argument, now you're saying funeral flowers is too much for someone to consider?

[jagged cove]

they don't upgrade when in city or they do

[normal lagoon]

I'm looking at the big picture. You can't say you're looking at the perspective of someone who is at Char Slot 9 and 10 and then go "oh yeah, this thing deep in W7, let's talk about that from their perspective"

[rose glade]

what upgrades?

[warped pawn]

Damn. The last 2 Divs take a while.

[normal lagoon]

If you're deep in W7, you already have your 10 chars made

[jagged cove]

have boost everywhere from shrines tho if i was reading right many years ago

[simple wadi]

So the big pictue is "Double AFK tokens is meh, therefore two WW is bad." That's the entire picture right there.

That's a mighty small big picture.

[normal lagoon]

Double AFK tokens for WW is meh.
Yes, early on it's nice to have two WWs for both sets of talents simultaneously, but that's not the long term

Long-term, it does break down to "double AFK for WW is meh"

[simple wadi]

You JUST told me to not think of the long term.

[lunar knot]

any tips on divinity?

[simple wadi]

Pick a lane, Polar

[lunar knot]

or is lab better

[simple wadi]

Either we're thinking of new players or we're thinking of late gamers.

[normal lagoon]

Okay let me step back for a sec

[wraith lark]

I sorta forced my way through to M5, what would be my best course of action? Farm gemstones on a lower mastery?

[pulsar wolf]

Use divinity and use the 2nd god. You get infinity and lab at the same time.

[normal lagoon]

My mindset is generally looking at the long term goal of what a class brings to the table, even if there's early struggling. Yes, you can take that into consideration and you're right, I should add that to the TL;DR, my bad. That said, everyone is different and some people think about the immediate or the now (as I am foregoing a second SB because I'd rather have a 2nd DB to work on Apocs now than have to rework on them later).

[pastel kayak]

Bad @simple wadi your fault update still not out on iPad

[lunar knot]

i only have the first one sadly

[simple wadi]

You certainly can if your gemstones are low. You may also need to get some higher level gold charms.

[pulsar wolf]

Keep grinding for the 2nd one it’s worth it

[lunar knot]

alright

thanks fire3falcon

[wraith lark]

What would be a decent goal?

50k?

[normal lagoon]

I personally don't think locking in a second WW for the sake of always having Sneaking talents on at all times for the immediate here and now, is worth a whole character slot, especially when that early benefit is irrelevant later on. Can it be vital to others? Sure, and I just said that in this previous post, but I don't think that's a good reason to suggest a class to someone when it becomes worthless later down the road.

[simple wadi]

Getting them all to 10k is a good start.

[lunar knot]

does WW mean wind walker?

[normal lagoon]

My whole point with Funeral Flowers is that by the time you actually have it, you're already at the stage where you would have all the Sneaking talents in both presets anyway

(or at least close to it)

[simple wadi]

Have you even read my FAQ excerpt?

I recommend NOT locking into a class.

[normal lagoon]

and that's fine too for some people, but that's also a huge loss of efficiency for who even knows how long 🤷‍♂️
Again, this is why there's no right or wrong answer, it depends on everyone's mindsets because we're all different.

I'm not saying you're dumb for choosing X over Y, I'm just explaining my perspective

and that said, my perspective sees little long-term value in a third archer, doubly so when I truly do feel that Lava will be giving us Char Slots 11/12 prior to this being a true issue.

[frosty cipher]

@normal lagoon hi are you losing your mind over idleon again?

[normal lagoon]

No, just losing my mind over the daily Char Slot 9/10 discussion 🫠

[rose glade]

its getting so much worse lmao

[frosty cipher]

What the FUCK

[normal lagoon]

Yeah I wish the stupid DNA particles would fuck off

Especially when they're worthless once you have Chem

[rose glade]

nugget week for golden nugget farm haha

[simple wadi]

I doubt Lava will give us new chr slots until W8. I think that'll be the big thing since we won't be getting new classes for the first time.

[frosty cipher]

Brochacho is this how a nuke looks like

[normal lagoon]

Except VMan's MC

That he's probably saving for W8

[simple wadi]

Vman came out with all the other classes.

[frosty cipher]

Bro VMan is already difficult to deal with

[dense hornet]

How do we unlock Teal summoning

[jagged cove]

on list it looks like God Angel masterclass ngl

[simple wadi]

There's no precedent to say he'll save it.

[normal lagoon]

Boss 5 in Spelunking

[dense hornet]

ahhhhhhhh well im done summoning in w6

[normal lagoon]

I'm more curious what he's planning to do post-W8 because that thought scares me

[dense hornet]

how much dmg required to full clear w6? i got 1 trillion rn

[frosty cipher]

Solution: New 19.99$ packs

[simple wadi]

He's said a few times now that he has no plans to continue passed W8 unless something changes.

[normal lagoon]

Well hopefully he plans to add new systems because oof my wallet

[frosty cipher]

There's so much more to add to idleon

It has a huge potential

[normal lagoon]

I'm fine if the worlds stop as long as there's more goals to chase

The day the goals stop is the day the game will start to die

[dense hornet]

yeah

[frosty cipher]

Unfortunately it is so, yeah

[simple wadi]

Idleon 2: Blobulyte Boogaloo.

[bleak gazelle]

not with this engine

[frosty cipher]

[normal lagoon]

I would be SO fine with an IO2/new engine provided he's not just throwing away everyones' purchases.

[frosty cipher]

Yes, but that would be VERY DIFFICULT to deal with

[normal lagoon]

I know he's also working on a full game version of Summoning

[dense hornet]

Why do we need that game LOL

[normal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️ I actually enjoy the concept, if it was more fleshed out

[frosty cipher]

Why do we not need that game

[visual gate]

Lol

[dense hornet]

i mean if he adds like 400 gems free on idleon for clearing it

[normal lagoon]

@simple wadi Am I wrong?

[dense hornet]

im playing the skittles out of it

[simple wadi]

He said he has nothing to do with that game other than providing the initial assets.

[jagged cove]

you know what will be funny if in the end of the last world would be ascention and when you press everything resets but you get permanent boosts xd

[frosty cipher]

xd

[normal lagoon]

Oh, huh, weird

[dense hornet]

That would be hell actually

[frosty cipher]

Great Prestige?

[normal lagoon]

I didn't know HE'S not working on it, I saw it and just assumed since the assets lol

[jagged cove]

or the enemies just get more hp scaled that would be better

[frosty cipher]

Actually, that would mean A LOT to endgame/lategame players

[dense hornet]

And that great prestige only gives 2x dmg LOL

[frosty cipher]

That's one way to fix the grinding/content issues

[dense hornet]

They can add skilling tree

[echo crag]

when he first showed it to us like over a year ago, he said he was not the one working on it at all, that sp,meone was doing it and he only proviied the assestes

[frosty cipher]

Just like path of exile, yeah...

[dense hornet]

I mean it would be more fun then just a smal bonus

[normal lagoon]

Over a year ago
Sorry I've been here for 12w 😆 Good to know though, curious to see what another brain does to it because I really do like the core concept, just the execution is "hold down mouse until the game says you win".

[frosty cipher]

Build a house content

[simple wadi]

Yeah the Steam page is definitely misleading, but he's not the developer for it. He said three fans asked him if they could make a standalone game with his assets. He's never said who they are.

[frosty cipher]

Bonus exp to all characters, boosts and damage xd

[dense hornet]

2x exp 2x dmg and go grind

[normal lagoon]

they should definitely change the Dev name and leave him as publisher 😆

[dense hornet]

ALL AGAIN even bubbles

(bubles)

[jagged cove]

that will make all endgames so angry

[frosty cipher]

I'd like to see the great prestige at the end of W8, that'd be fun

[jagged cove]

agreed

[normal lagoon]

🥴

[frosty cipher]

Like, why not?

[normal lagoon]

We already have MCs, now you want the entire game to reset?

[frosty cipher]

Remind me, what are MCs?

[normal lagoon]

Masterclass

[dense hornet]

imagine spending 2k hours in game to reset it for 2x exp

[frosty cipher]

xd

[normal lagoon]

Listen, as long as he gives us new goals to look forward to, I really don't care what he does. I don't think resetting everything (SANS BUNDLES/COMPANIONS/ETC RIGHT?) is a good idea though

[dense hornet]

Bro ofc that stuff will be not resetted

[normal lagoon]

Okay but what is and isn't reset then?

[frosty cipher]

Not everything though ofc, I don't see the point of resetting something so important

[jagged cove]

what if it was not a whole game reset but the enemies get large scale to hp like gmush get like idk 20Q hp ?

[normal lagoon]

A la Sneaking Mastery?

[dense hornet]

ALCHEMY WORSHIP DIVINITY ALL SKILLS LAB AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[normal lagoon]

Okay yeah, I could get into that provided I can go back to base game

[dense hornet]

EVERYTHING that took 6 bazillion hours

[frosty cipher]

Reset wouldn't affect pets and packs

[dense hornet]

And you got to W1 losing all ur gear + candies

[normal lagoon]

Memories of Monuments...

I assume the decision to not do W9+ is for the sake of not making so many assets since I'm sure that's what eats up most of his work, which is totally fair and valid.

[frosty cipher]

Overall I believe it's a good idea to make the great prestige an actual thing

[dense hornet]

Would reset be fun? thats the question

[normal lagoon]

As long as he works his butt off on systems, bugfixes, and QoL, I would be fine with it.

[red rapids]

it would not be fun

[frosty cipher]

Yes and no

[normal lagoon]

Depends what it changes

[dense hornet]

Yes but mostly leaning towards A huge nooo no

[normal lagoon]

If it deletes gear/items that would be disastrous

[red rapids]

the only reason you would want a reset is if you got an xp or drop rate buff. things that are already basically nothing at w7 like some of these guys

[frosty cipher]

Time to ping Lava and ask him what he thinks about this

[dense hornet]

Bro then whats even point of that reset if you got op gear and EVEN A BOOST FROM RESET you will just speedrun game again and it will get boring

[normal lagoon]

Walking into W7 with like 100 DR and leaving it with over 2k lol

[dense hornet]

@sacred coral vro where are u

[normal lagoon]

No, don't ping him

[frosty cipher]

I DIDN'T MEAN THAT THAT WAS A JOKE

[dense hornet]

NOOO

LOL LAVA DONT EXECUTE ME

[normal lagoon]

Why would you ping the dev? Are you looking to get BANNED?

[dense hornet]

idk man i thought he a nice guy

[frosty cipher]

[jagged cove]

what if its gonna be like your gear have 1% power and you have to do something to slowly encrease it back some milestones

[simple wadi]

I'm 99.995% sure Lava has his pings turned off from this server anyway

[dense hornet]

Maybe he is and yall are delulu

[dense hornet]

ONG 😭

[normal lagoon]

I didn't know you could even disable personal pings

[red rapids]

IF this was a game that didnt take as many hours as it does, then a reset system could be cool. but with the hundreds of hours put into this? nah man, im not into starting over unless its literally on a fresh account and not on this one where i have everything

[dense hornet]

How did i even pinged him tho??????????

[frosty cipher]

I am going delulu by playing idleon tbf

[normal lagoon]

Or what if Prestige 1 W1 crafted gear is better than W8 Boss gear?

[dense hornet]

Normally u cant ping devs on servers i think

[normal lagoon]

Then you wouldn't need to delete anything

[dense hornet]

yoo

[jagged cove]

that point to it too

[dense hornet]

Nice concept

[red rapids]

your dmg isnt high enough already?

[dense hornet]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[normal lagoon]

Example

[dense hornet]

LOL

[red rapids]

THEN he'd have to balance w8 etc with bajillions of hp to match

[normal lagoon]

(and yes he would increase the capacity in storage)

[frosty cipher]

Where's that image of a star "you tried" xdd

[jagged cove]

real xd

[dense hornet]

1QQ

[normal lagoon]

Idk I just set it to something ridiculous

[dense hornet]

NOBODY EVEN GOT THAT MUCH SPORE CAPS

Mush

[normal lagoon]

Also that spear would be WAY better than the W8 endgame weapon

THAT'S the only way I see a full reset working

Not resetting YOU, but resetting THE WORLD

[dense hornet]

Making the world harder?

[normal lagoon]

You stay EXACTLY the same, but the world around you gets harder, just like Sneaking Mastery

[frosty cipher]

Yeah reset the whole milky way

[dense hornet]

but keeping all gear

[red rapids]

i repeat, then w8 enemies are going to have a bajllion hp to match the endgame potential.

[normal lagoon]

It's like Futurama's ship not actually moving but moving the world 😆

[simple wadi]

I can't wait for Lava to never do anything with these. I remember when W4 was about to come out and he kept saying "You guys really need to farm up the eggs from W1's mini boss. They're going to be super important." Then he never did anything with them.

[frosty cipher]

Even right now endgamers are struggling with portals

[dense hornet]

Ball

[dense hornet]

How come

[normal lagoon]

UH EXCUSE YOU HE DID DO A JEWEL FOR THE EGGS

[dense hornet]

They have sextillion dmg

[normal lagoon]

Sheesh Mirai, so mean

Speaking misinfo like that 😏

[jagged cove]

i would do that every map have some debuff or just something special in it like some evil power is stoping you from progress

[frosty cipher]

Some portals in W8 take a week or two

[normal lagoon]

Sure why not, add some challenges!

[dense hornet]

ah i js remembered u cant use candies there

[red rapids]

yah now imagine the first wpn you craft being better than endgame wpns? look at the scaling between final wpn and first one. scale that up? the endgame weapon would be SO ridiculous that w8 would have no choice but be hp sponges

[normal lagoon]

But the most important thing: You can always go back and undo the prestige

Just like Sneaking Mastery, you can always go back

Like if you're only on W2 of Prestige 1 but you have something to do in W5, you can go back

[frosty cipher]

What if W8 is just a dream

[normal lagoon]

It's not, he's confirmed it's happening

[dense hornet]

why yall even looking forward to w8 W7 is already a struggle

and im on w6

heck yeas

[red rapids]

im looking forward to the final mc classes

[frosty cipher]

I myself am on W6 aswell

[lapis breach]

do i still kill emperor with vmna if the dr shown in this screen is about half of my dk?

[humble bolt]

is there a 'max level' for cosmo? or do you get more pts. mine is lvl 33, but the chart on the wiki stops at 31

[red rapids]

im pretty sure lava said w8 would be the final world. at which point the game is going to die off. people are going to get everything and theres not going to be a point in grinding

[dense hornet]

i dont want this game to die

[frosty cipher]

The Great Prestige comes true
THE BIG LEAGUES IS CALLING.png

[normal lagoon]

You'll keep getting points, there's no cap on any of them AFAIK

[normal lagoon]

I don't think he'll just leave the game to die

Unless he's just fine with the amount of money he's made and no longer gives a shit 🤷‍♂️ he doesn't seem like that kind of guy though. He seems to have genuinely enjoyed making the game or he wouldn't put tons of funny references, memes, etc into the game

[frosty cipher]

He said something about a different engine aswell some time ago

I just feel like the last thing he'd do is release the last MCs and that'd be almost the end

[normal lagoon]

The issue though is he can't go full on sequel after all the money people have invested into IO.

[dense hornet]

On what engine this game based off?

[frosty cipher]

Maybe something different?

Idleon 3D? xd

[simple wadi]

Lots of games have died when the developer puts out a new game.

[dense hornet]

He can add pvp

[red rapids]

i can see him putting an end there. but i can see him starting up a new one. its damn near impossible for him to fix the spaghetti code he has laid out, and he can only build so high on the crooked foundation. i can see him starting a whole new game, and using all the coding experience he has now to lay a semiproper foundation

[dense hornet]

and events + limited gear for trading

[simple wadi]

Idle Skilling is largely dead.

[dense hornet]

thats how to keep game alive

[normal lagoon]

IS also isn't an "MMO" though.

Honestly I think the prestige thing keeps the infinite grind happening

[frosty cipher]

As long as it brings something

[dense hornet]

Idle skilling wasnt fun tho

[simple wadi]

Yeah, I can definitely see a prestige system in W8 or as a replacement for W9

[dense hornet]

rewards are the only thing that makes it playable

[normal lagoon]

TBH it was fun for me until I hit Ascension and then I shelved it 😆

It just seems like the easiest way to have the game continue theoretically forever, and you can still add events, new bonuses, and new systems/content as well

[jagged cove]

what if the last world will be clouds and space and the portal would apear once you kill the boss at red skeletons map and on the end (the space or milkyway anything related to space) would be the reset

[frosty cipher]

It will continue on forever in fact

[dense hornet]

He can add new dimension

[frosty cipher]

But would that be interesting to the player

[jagged cove]

also another thing cames to my mind when tiping it what if you get to another planed each reset ?

[frosty cipher]

What if idleon was just a dream

What if idleon was just about the friends we made along the way

[visual gate]

Idleon was just the friends we made along the way

[dense hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/velikimisliteli-gif-7638381209157953953

how our talk goes

[normal lagoon]

Oh statue farming on DK while swapping to my Mushroom-farming AC oh dear oh fuck me

I am saddened.

[frosty cipher]

There's nothing better in human life than dreaming, as it helps to relieve hope

[normal lagoon]

There goes four hours of statue farming

[dense hornet]

ball knowledge

i remember statue farming for 20 hours for onyx

[jagged cove]

did anyone ever chated with lava personaly giving him suggestions ?

[dense hornet]

i have

[jagged cove]

responded or never

[dense hornet]

matter fact i gave him w7 ideas

[jagged cove]

so if something will be sh** i can go to you xd

[dense hornet]

sure

[jagged cove]

joke

[dense hornet]

IM LYING i hate that

Lava should give me 5k gems

For the love of the game

[jagged cove]

or nametag called little lava helper

[dense hornet]

LMAO

[normal lagoon]

He gladly will give you those for $20
($25 would be the actual cost, but if you get a $20 bundle, you get like 4600 gems)

[dense hornet]

19$ fortnite giftcard

[visual gate]

19 dollar fortnite card, who wants it?

[dense hornet]

me

[jagged cove]

all it would do is makes your character larger but not larger than lava

[dense hornet]

SEVEN SIX

[normal lagoon]

As someone who refuses to download EGS or Fortnite, I'm good

[normal lagoon]

I hope this catches on more to kill off 6-7 lol

[visual gate]

eight nine

[dense hornet]

yea

[normal lagoon]

The anti-joke becoming the joke

[dense hornet]

7 ELEVEN

or FIVE TEN

[jagged cove]

nine eleven

[visual gate]

full circle

[dense hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/911-nineeleven-nine-eleven-man-twin-tower-twin-towers-gif-14754108552803770963

[frosty cipher]

I've heard that 67 got banned in USA

[jagged cove]

i knew you would pick it

[frosty cipher]

Now what about Five-Seven

[dense hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/timeline-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-future-infinity-war-gif-11789036

[frosty cipher]

okay I shouldn't continue the joke

[dense hornet]

what about six nine

flower stop typing

teacup shush

[frosty cipher]

HOW DID WE COME FROM THE IDLEON'S END TO THIS

[jagged cove]

better is six nine nine don't ask for more just think about it and you will know

[frosty cipher]

WHAT HAPPENED

[dense hornet]

Flower literally stopped typing

LOL i feel bad

[normal lagoon]

Wow what the fuck am I looking at

[frosty cipher]

wow that's fucking gross

[dense hornet]

I didnt like it tbh

[normal lagoon]

IMO Breeding is probably the best of the three, but it's gonna lose because it's W4

[jagged cove]

idk

[dense hornet]

IM SUPERMAN

[frosty cipher]

Breeding Ig

[normal lagoon]

Oh it's currently winning

[dense hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[jagged cove]

look how it will be chopping effi

[dense hornet]

67🌹

[jagged cove]

only 20% on chopping 😭

[normal lagoon]

LOL getting 8 nugs off a like 3hs worth of log game is crazy

[dense hornet]

dayum son

ight guys good night

[jagged cove]

gn

[dense hornet]

my neckhurts little i gotta sleep

[jagged cove]

add two o in middle thats your duty now

[noble coral]

chat am i doing something wrong. Why can i not reach the annihilation

[normal lagoon]

It's buggy af

[dense hornet]

you enter map in 60 seconds you gotta kill 200 of em

[noble coral]

thats what i do. On gmush

[dense hornet]

ive never reached it i just read the help for u LOL

[jagged cove]

i think it works same as it did with unlocking AC masterclass

you need to reenter the map after you failed ?

[noble coral]

i did it multiple times

[sharp swallow]

Is the opal legend talent good? (Villager xp) also is there a tierlist for the talents?

[normal lagoon]

There's better ones to focus first, but IMO it's not bad

[sharp swallow]

I mean will reach w7 tmrw and kinda lost on everything but I pulled whallamus today so that should help a bit..? Does it or nah

[normal lagoon]

You'll eventually get enough points for every legend talent AFAIK. I'm getting pretty close myself, only missing 9 (excluding gem shop purchases), and obv excluding the bottom row

[normal lagoon]

Oh if you didn't hit W7 yet, there's better ones for sure to pick up

Unlocking Super Talents (IMO don't throw 5 points into buffing the levels just yet, just unlock the system to start), Global Shrine Contribution, Metal Detector never resets, etc systems like that

[sharp swallow]

I didnt so yeah.. hopefully soon praying for it atleast

Need to get enough candy tmrw to hit it

[normal lagoon]

Also the flat DR and the Card Mult ones are good too. GFood is good if you have solid GFood investment (or hold off on that til later); there's MANY points to consider.

[noble coral]

wdym buggy af. So i cant do it or what

[normal lagoon]

There's also this

[normal lagoon]

Sometimes it just doesn't say you completed it even if you did

You'll definitely see what I mean when you get to Mashed Potato

I know with the uh, the second one where you gotta clear the map before any respawn, that one you gotta wait like 5s before you start killing for the game to keep up with you

[red rapids]

lmaooo wtf why

[noble coral]

so i just blindy go through every map you say. Wait 60 untill mashed potato?

[normal lagoon]

Just another reason to ignore red 🙂

[royal karma]

Anyone had a spirit lord necklace drop since w7 cause I feel I’m cursed or it’s broken

[dawn nymph]

I’m super stuck on Mashed Potatoes Annihilation on my DB

[normal lagoon]

Well you can keep a stopwatch running and you'll notice you easily hit 200 at times without completing it

[normal lagoon]

Same, it sucks, but you also don't need it to clear W6.
(also yes, I would love to Ride ze Shoopuf)

[red rapids]

yah but for now its giving me 50%+ so im still rolling them to fill the board

[normal lagoon]

Definitely have had them drop. What's your DR?

[red rapids]

ive gotten rid of anything below 40%, now working on getting rid of anything below 50%

[royal karma]

511x

[normal lagoon]

Are you DK Orb Cheesing w/ Daily Crystals?

[bleak gazelle]

oh, well that was almost a double from 222m

[normal lagoon]

I swear I'm gonna work on gaming this week, I just need my escargot to get out of 20-24 hell 😭

[noble coral]

so like blindly guessing its completed. But it counts you say. But my dmg isnt going up
Also why is mashed potato a problem`?

[royal karma]

I did for the last one I killed as I realised I didn’t have it yet but somehow still nothing not sure if colosseum can drop it but even after like 8 runs I got nothing maybe just extra unlucky

[normal lagoon]

It's a very long horizontal map; DB's weakness is horizontal

DB loves verticality due to how axes work

[normal lagoon]

Okay so, especially if you have W7's 21x Crystals legend talent, you set up an orb before killing ANYTHING after daily resets, you'll get like a 3~5k orb, then pop miniboss and kill it during the orb window.

Orb doesn't work in W5/6 colo, so your DR is definitely lower there

Also 500 DR would mean it's a 20% chance, much higher with a 3~5k orb giving you 30-50 DR (before mults)

Every time I kill 2x of them, I get like 7 or 8 keychains now. I was probably still getting like 4 or so on 2x kills back at that DR though

[red rapids]

thats great advice, imma try that next time i let the spirits build up to 2-3

[sharp swallow]

Why is the summoning familiar legend talent S?

[normal lagoon]

Two, specifically two.

[normal lagoon]

Summoning EXP scales many things

[red rapids]

oh? why 2?

[normal lagoon]

Optimal ratio for time to spawn

1st takes 4d, 2nd takes 3d, everything after 2 takes more than 3d, so you do it once a week on the day

3.5d per spawn at 2, it's simply the best ratio.
Staggering the minibosses, this would give you 4/7d for W3, 4, 5, 6 minibosses for your daily crystals for a DK orb buildup, leaving 3 extra days of the week for you to do whatever you want with. IMO use ONE of those for Biggie Hours (HUGE PITA to get it to work since you can spawn him many times but hey, it's nice)

and one of those 2 remaining days will likely go to W7 miniboss, assuming we get one

[untold magnet]

what summoning things do I star?

[normal lagoon]

I do each of the minibosses (including Biggie Hours, excluding W1 and Doot since you can't) and the extra 2 are for statues/gfoods

[untold magnet]

i missclicked whit dmg lmao

[nocturne patrol]

help xd

[normal lagoon]

#1303761365273415700 C14/Gambit guide

[normal lagoon]

Better asked in #endgame-chat-w7🐟 but uh, yeah, rip

[red rapids]

i think i found more spaghetti code. cant press 'r' or 'ctrl' to manually fish on the legendary fish island

but only on the first node XD

[cyan geyser]

what should i do once i unlock tranqi on my characters?

[wraith lark]

Use it if you want to afk other places 👀

[mental patrol]

Should I prioritize beating abominations or unlock everything in compass?

[normal lagoon]

Yes.

Deeper world mobs give more dust, so Aboms are good to kill

You also get a new compass upgrade each time you kill one too, so if you're not struggling to kill your current world mobs, definitely time to abom prog

[oblique heron]

which monument gives monument afk%

[wraith lark]

All of them

[oblique heron]

Really? i thought only one did

[wraith lark]

wave 32+ for bravery, 52+ for justice, 8+ for wisdom

[bleak gazelle]

anything w7 pushing/spelunking, monument afk, gloomie/golem afk, other mat farming
assuming you also have all gods unlocked

[cyan geyser]

i do not

i have up to elephant

[crimson ether]

what this do?

[bleak gazelle]

ah, unfortunate, purrmep and kruk are pretty strong
out of curiosity, are you a returning player who sat on lab/div while afk or what was your leveling process?

[cyan geyser]

i kind of just have all my guys sit in lab as soon as i got goat

[bleak gazelle]

what style were they on?

[cyan geyser]

vitalic

i thought it was focus until goat then vitalic

[bleak gazelle]

bad luck on rolls? i'd think you should've had enough points to hit purrmep at least

[cyan geyser]

ig so

my characters are around lv40ish

[bleak gazelle]

wonder if my alt got lucky then, i stuck on focus after getting goat and was only around ~28 by the time i got purrmep, so i figured just swapping to vitalic right away would be okay

though maybe focus is still the play now that Kruk actually has a bonus, too...

dilemmas

[cyan geyser]

i only have 9 ppl which is probably why

[bleak gazelle]

nah, one extra shouldn't matter

[normal lagoon]

Makes dog happi :3
(nothing)

Halp

[dawn nymph]

Can make some very fine ham and cheese sandwiches

[red rapids]

oh my lobster is too buttery and my bed is too soft

[normal lagoon]

Listen

... yeah I got nothing lol

[red rapids]

its a good problem to have

[normal lagoon]

THAT SAID, a bed too soft is a legitimate problem

Everyone's different for comfortable soft/firmness, but yeah.
The lobster thing, just add more lobster, DUH

[thin jungle]

w6 summoning, i had these golden stars that doubled a summoning perk. is there a way to reset those? i wasted them early on

[normal lagoon]

Lamp/C7 (Hole)

[thin jungle]

thanks

[turbid comet]

DB master class question. toolbox has 5 non normal levels wow/chow/zows listed that dont have mobs on them. whats that about and do they count towards your wow chow zows

[mighty parcel]

Should I renew

[bleak gazelle]

they have mobs on them they're just hiding
-# that's also not specifically a master class question

[turbid comet]

like a hidden platform i gotta find?

[bleak gazelle]

equinox is off to the right
doot is just invisible at the top
idk if anything else is invisible?

oh, that's a nice increase from the ~400m

[languid mist]

Have we got an updated list of the best summoning upgrades to double after teal was released? (for pushing endless)

[undone wagon]

Nope we didnt

[undone wagon]

But I once asked this in #endgame-gen-chat and someone gave me this

[languid mist]

sweet, thank you

[undone wagon]

When u push gambit, try to double hp upgrades

[undone wagon]

Also got this from endgame chat

But in my opinion, I dont agree

[languid mist]

I'm at the point where each gambit takes over 20 minutes so i dont think i'll be pushing it anytime soon.

[mighty parcel]

What are the requirements to unlock teal

[robust pawn]

Anyone know what this Equinox thingy does exactly?

[mighty parcel]

Max it

[undone wagon]

Yk when u do CC? or just having the capacity maxed

[languid mist]

Exactly what it says. Once your liquid cauldrons are at capacity, any excess is funneled to cap and rate upgrdes.

Instead of being wasted

[bleak gazelle]

allows this

then you can decant

[robust pawn]

Oh snap, where do i find that?

[robust pawn]

As in like, where do i view those cap and rate upgrades? Is it the pay to win tab in alchemy or?

[hallow folio]

Liquid "tab"

[robust pawn]

Copy that thanks ❤️

[languid mist]

click on any of your liquid cauldrons

[robust pawn]

Dang so this equinox upgrade = muy importante

[languid mist]

At max, 99% of the excess is funneled into upgrades

[crimson ether]

yes

[normal lagoon]

How tf does one read the Random Events page on IT

The one for "17:00" just disappeared

To me that means "17:00 local time this event will spawn", but clearly not. (and local time is 17:03 right now)

[robust pawn]

So what does decanting do in the liquids tab?

[bleak gazelle]

it levels it up

[robust pawn]

wurd thx u

There's even more to alchemy than i thought. insano

[red rapids]

it feels like going from kruk to marbiglass is a huge net dps loss?

[bleak gazelle]

yes (respawn and DR aside), marbi only exists for the bonus and to make godshard

[lunar knot]

did it spawn?

[normal lagoon]

Nope and it went away on IT

[lunar knot]

oh

[red rapids]

respawn and drop dr?

[lunar knot]

is PONG something gaming related?

if so, then how do i get to it?

[red rapids]

its in your imports

[lunar knot]

“imports”?

[red rapids]

yes, the import tab

[red rapids]

if you dont see the tab, you are a long way off from pong

[lunar knot]

oh that tab

what box is it?

[tulip hornet]

bottom right

[red rapids]

375k green

[tulip hornet]

right of squirel

[bleak gazelle]

from kruk gear
respawn on chest/legs
DR on helm/boots
infinitely better than any piddly amount of damage you'll get from gear

[red rapids]

ohh i thuoght you were saying marbiglass had dr and respawn

[undone wagon]

What abt full Drop rate?

Nvm...

[red rapids]

lol thatd be godshard armor

[undone wagon]

Emperor armor has higher drop rate

[red rapids]

🤷‍♂️ godshard still has full dr

[undone wagon]

Emp dont?

[red rapids]

nvr said it didnt

[worthy elm]

Can someone check my idleon toolbox I don't know what to do any more in this game

[simple wadi]

!review

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[simple wadi]

Have you used this?

[worthy elm]

Yes I was confusing

[warm yew]

what should i do?

[simple wadi]

Give up, sell your stuff, move to Prague and become a professional human trafficker.

[strong shuttle]

as a czech i disapprove this message, nothing good in there :D

[narrow matrix]

what is the rift guy scheamatic in hole for?

[simple wadi]

Nothing

It's filler.

[rare portal]

if i got 2 db i have to farm it on my other one aswell??

[narrow matrix]

lame

[rare portal]

so i get double bones from him and my other one?

[red rapids]

as long as both afk in combat, yes

[lunar knot]

should i try to upgrade this more?

[cunning path]

so if i unlocked all w1 portals on my 1st voidwalker run can i do that again on the next one for the talent points or do i gotta do ones i havent done before

[simple wadi]

You have to do every speed run from scratch.

[lunar knot]

im not even close to the green one

[simple wadi]

There is no saving portals for next time.

[crimson ether]

is summoning really just brute force down one side??

[simple wadi]

For normal battles, yes. For endless, it depends on the challenge.

[crimson ether]

so for this im just picking like any of the ones that give mana?

[simple wadi]

All of them except health are good to level.

[normal lagoon]

YOU LOVE TO SEE IT

[simple wadi]

Health quickly becomes irrelevant as enemy damage vastly outpaces your slimes' possible health.

[crimson ether]

so just never level it?

[simple wadi]

Congrats! Have fun getting 6 star majestic cards =3

[normal lagoon]

Lol fuck you too ❤️

I'M SORRY

[simple wadi]

There's certain bonuses later on that are based on your total upgrades bought across all summoning bonuses, so you'll want to level health a bit. But it's not a priority.

[normal lagoon]

I love living in Florida and overheating from what I was doing and staying overheated all fucking day, makes my brain run at like 10% 😭

Makes me say dumb shit like "grats Mirai, who is WAY ahead of me, on your teal summoning"

[prime compass]

Couldn't be me, with my 9F temperature

[simple wadi]

Isn't that called heat exhaustion?

[normal lagoon]

Yeah that's just something I live with every other day

PS to anyone reading this: If you like heat, fuck you, trade places with me

[prime compass]

That's what I say to people who like cold

[simple wadi]

I live in Kansas. Last week it was a high of 78 followed by a high of 19 the next day. It's 48 today and a high of 71 Wednesday.

[normal lagoon]

I grew up in NY/CT/OH so I'm used to cold, plus you can always add more layers, while I can't dissipate heat when I'm as close to being naked without outright being naked 🥴

[iron mesa]

Heat doesn't ache your bones. It's still better than up to -30 Celsius here

[prime compass]

Well I've got canada cold

[simple wadi]

Get a Cuban short king to follow you around fanning you.

[forest forge]

this means i can't cross his line?

[lunar knot]

is the pong in this?

[normal lagoon]

If you would damage him, YOU are damaged instead.

By "his line" I assume you mean his damage line, in which case, you can, but it'll hurt you

[simple wadi]

Kinda. You can either let him hit you to build up your damage, or send over some troops to hit him (which also hits you) to build your damage. After that, be careful about sending troops.

[normal lagoon]

It's the only interesting Gambit, so enjoy how weird it is

[bleak gazelle]

i'd be surprised if pong was a living piece of history

[lunar knot]

oh so it isnt...?

[forest forge]

bishops gambit is so damn hard

[iron mesa]

Maybe snail, if it's living

[lunar knot]

its the console box.

[iron mesa]

Or stone, it's alive too

[bleak gazelle]

[forest forge]

alr XDDDD

oh shoot why can't he defend better?!??

im about to die!!!!!!!

[iron mesa]

How's log is living

[normal lagoon]

Yeah you can't just full send!!!

Go VERY SLOW

[forest forge]

i only sent 1 COLLUMN

anyway im fine, 5 hp left

[normal lagoon]

You got this

[forest forge]

thx

[normal lagoon]

SLOW. Look at his stats vs yours, yours are likely WAY higher

Every slime you send will be there for a LONG time, remember that

[spiral path]

ok, time to farm nuggets for the next seven days, wish me luck!

[normal lagoon]

Ballot Bonus is actually crazy for once

[frosty veldt]

Anybody able to send me friends bonus? I've been told it's best to ask here if someone is willing to send them to me

[simple wadi]

Penguin 20 W1 town

[frosty veldt]

thank you :)

[plucky light]

should flashy pets replace foragers in w5-w6 seasonings?

[red rapids]

we already told you. its the one to the right of the squirrel

[simple wadi]

Is this Pong?

[red rapids]

is this another bug?

thats a lvl 74 IDK

[iron mesa]

Oh, secret bits multiplier.

[red rapids]

top tier. shiny af

[forest forge]

phew.

[simple wadi]

What about this one? It's next to squirrel?

[red rapids]

i DID specify to THE RIGHT of squirrel

[simple wadi]

MY READING DEFICIENCIES ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

[open prairie]

this multiplies this?!?!

[red rapids]

your illiteracy is nothing special, its shared by 99% of the idleon playerbase

youre not special mirai!

[simple wadi]

[lunar knot]

u act like i know where the squirrel is...

[red rapids]

ok well, i also said it was the one worth 375k green

soooo

[lunar knot]

isnt one green a lot?

[red rapids]

if you dont have squirrel yet that fine, but you are a LONG way from pong

you got everything you paid for

[lunar knot]

aw man

[normal lagoon]

How i leave notes for myself that I'll definitely see 😆
(crop of my alt+tab popup)

(the message is in regards to my weekly about to pop and I'm still missing 2 Crystal medallions on my WW)

[lapis breach]

why is this one not working?

and the ones that come after this one

[red rapids]

have you claimed this from your guild?

you have to click the claim button

[wide osprey]

what i should do

[simple wadi]

I have my own discord server I keep notes in for everything.