lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[limber junco]

oh yeah i just meant the DR building up on the map

[bleak gazelle]

what god are you up to?

[granite owl]

4 rabbit

[bleak gazelle]

everything past 25 is duperbits

[red rapids]

yah, it wont build up the dr etc unless youre in mc

[neat zodiac]

2days ago i got samurai and jocund offers but by the time i got back to the samurai guy he already traded, but i did get my jocund :3 sometimes there are surprises

[simple wadi]

Get your snail above level 25. That's it.

[scenic magnet]

Vn There's like 2 pets I really want my hands on and that's Balloonfish and Leek

[nocturne patrol]

oh i see so i still need rng for now uwu

[neat zodiac]

If i will get another balloon i will let you know, i traded mine for the jocund, leek i got but its untradable

[limber junco]

thank you, i thought so but wanted to double check before i leave it for the night xD

[scenic magnet]

Good choice tbh Balloonfish is super hard to get since its not a guaranteed pity

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably main link to arctis and then use pocket for harriep and snake/nobi (you can just swap to nobi before claiming combat afk), throw people on the altar until goat is unlocked
or if you want to do it now, just pocket link arctis and w/e else

[gritty cedar]

Thank you. Are there any cards i should use for more xp apart from maple?

[bleak gazelle]

just biggie hours, nothing else will matter. if you want, you can throw on some worship cards for extra charge/rate while you're in for your long afk (the afk/eff/lab exp are more for once you get goat unlocked)

[scenic magnet]

@neat zodiac I have the majority of the pets I want but Balloonfish is very hard to get and sadly I missed leek when it was in rotation which really hurts

[gritty cedar]

Maple log card give chopping

[red rapids]

no chaotic effaunt?

[neat zodiac]

Im kinda of a new player, about 1.5 months into the game and im only missing the samurai, glunko and wild boar. been kinda lucky with trades and my accountant crying xD

[bleak gazelle]

someone bamboozled me rip

[scenic magnet]

I've only bought 2 packs entirely the ram pack earlier on and the dr multi back item that's all I've gotten aside from autoloot ofc

[hidden sun]

Lava please god let me unlock chemical gaming, just please ;w; I've been spamming one-plant research for hours

[civic sedge]

how does the green bits work, is it literally just a measurement of white bits simplified

[scenic magnet]

1000Q white bits I believe?

[red rapids]

chaotic effaunt instead of bunny or nah?

[neat zodiac]

Yes, after Q it goes to green

[civic sedge]

ok so 40 green bits is just a prettier way to say 40000Q whites

[bleak gazelle]

doesn't affect div, wouldn't expect people to farm it
-# or even have more than 1 character getting keys from the quest

[scenic magnet]

Yup same goes for red then purple then blue xD

[red rapids]

oh i saw the lab xp in there and thought this was the goat setup for when youre in lab and div

[civic sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390336349839822890/1409086388812644403/FinalGif-17560227655.gif

[neat zodiac]

With time you can get everything in the game which is great tbh, but if i like the game i will support the dev and get the perks along the way

Since rotation will keep happening older players will always have some pet to trade to new players

[scenic magnet]

I agree with you if you enjoy the game I see no harm in it

[civic sedge]

aren't some of the event shop items especially impossible to achieve the same effects (i realised while typing this that is still f2pable just a LOT longer)

[bleak gazelle]

it is, but the cuboid gives slightly more xp than chaotic effaunt (and without needing to get keys for effaunt)
it...might be better than afk, but i doubt it, exp cards in general are pretty shit, but that was an early game setup from...like 3 years ago

[scenic magnet]

My only hope of getting a balloonfish is either A. a giveaway or B. finding someone desperate enough to want a frog or a green mushroom. Green mush being unobtainable entirely currently and frog being unobtainable if you never got it before the max tier treat on the first set

[red rapids]

alrighty thanks

[neat zodiac]

Event shop items you can get but takes a long time yea, the things you cannot get with time are some boosts to gameplay and the cosmetics which also comes with great effects from the gem shop bundles.
You could also grind gems to eventually get the things in the shop itself but the bundles always costs money.
Maybe some items you can get for gems in the special rotating shop, im not sure so maybe complete f2p can get everything afterall

[civic sedge]

yh but most of the bundles just give convenience or easier time for the content

[nocturne patrol]

wat lvl should i get on w1 statue before starting using them for cluster ?

[neat zodiac]

Its gonna be hard to find someone to trade it for a frog or green mush i think but maybe some older player will be desperate

[civic sedge]

how do i get ancient artis?

[neat zodiac]

Umm kinda yes but some bundles gives exclusive bonuses such as dmg,dr,exp gain etc... so some players will always have the "edge" since its not a pvp game not really but they gonna progress faster then the rest

[bleak gazelle]

just sail and

[civic sedge]

nah but like is it just essentially roll the artifact again but rarer or is there a pre req

[civic sedge]

isn't that only like 3 bundles unless u counting the cosmetics being put into hat rack/gallery

[neat zodiac]

I count about 8 bundles id say inculding auto loot

[cloud glade]

its only 3 bundles atm because some of the buffs from earlier bundles have been power crept over

[neat zodiac]

That gives bounses, not items

[neat zodiac]

Aww i did not know that i guess

[civic sedge]

i counted 8 that give actual boosts but only like 4 that mattered

i think like 3 of them were just storage

[cloud glade]

like the valenslime give coin DR but the deathbringer one gives so much reg DR that its WAY better

[civic sedge]

they still stack

but like u said its powercrept its not even close to necessary

[neat zodiac]

yea some are more connivance and time savers then "important" still a boost is a boost no matter how little lol

and for new players its alot anyway you look at it, untill you reach endgame those boosts are good to have kinda

[civic sedge]

i think more ones like the chippy bundle for statues/gold food or the db for dr are tje only really big ones

[abstract halo]

after how many years do you get more than 10 different pets free to play ?

[civic sedge]

giveaways 😼

[neat zodiac]

Could take 10 weeks tbh

[pseudo path]

How can I get the sushi for my crop discovery thing? It just always evolves to the next crop and I can't log it.

[cyan geyser]

is there any point going for crystals without the respawn lab chip?

[stone wing]

Camp trade discuss

[abstract halo]

3 month playing i have 5 differents

[stone wing]

Lock immediately

[pseudo path]

Ahh

[abstract halo]

where ? :v

[neat zodiac]

You can lock plants?

[stone wing]

I basically went from 0 to 100 from trade discussion kind people f2p, (except 2 pets i swiped from)

[stone wing]

😭 yes

[civic sedge]

pretty sure there was just one ended that had like 4 exclusives among a bunch of others in

[sweet trellis]

Lock it before it evolves

[civic sedge]

they do them in #trade-discussion usually

[stone wing]

There was a huge giveaway that almost had all exclusives which had about 32 pets?

[cloud glade]

if you spend your time watching #trade-discussion lost of people do giveaways and hide and seek games. itll take time but i got a doot for free and eventually gave out a free riptide myself

[stone wing]

[iron cargo]

anyone got a w6 card loadout for mob drops for a 3d printer?

I am horrible at making combat cart loadouts.

[cyan geyser]

is there any point to farming crystals without having the lab cookie chip?

[iron cargo]

I mean, there's always a point. it's just like 10x slower.

[stone wing]

No

[cloud glade]

if youve got good dr and crystal stamp youll be ok

[stone wing]

It will significantly take more time to farm

[cloud glade]

with how hard it can be to aquire one i can understand some people do it just to get some of the gains in now

especially when cookie may not be available to you for months

[stone wing]

Yea cause lava for some reason locks one of the most important items behind a stupid rotation

[cyan geyser]

i have stamp and star talent and eh dr

and the shrine

[cloud glade]

what level is stand tho

[cyan geyser]

stamp is 80

[daring rapids]

Hey guys, need some guidance on farming. I just unlocked land ranks, im level 64 farming, changed to all sushi for land rank exp. Im upgrading the production land rank bonus but it seems like this won't help me progress for a long time. What should my early focus be for land ranks?

[cloud glade]

if you have stamp reducers unlocked i would recommend working on it for a few days first and get it up more. this is something unfortunately between rock and hard place for you

[cyan geyser]

what is stamp reducer?

[sweet trellis]

Just keep chuging along, it takes a while, good job on having the sushi. For pushing land ranks you want the highest level plants possible, i find that pushing more crops per harvest helps a lot so you can get your speed up. Eventually it'll start ramping up it just takes time.

[red rapids]

w4 rift, you unlock a feature that gives you 95% off stamps

[daring rapids]

Ah okay I thought its been slower than I expected but sounds like its normal! Can you explain how you mean more crops per harvest gets speed up?

[cloud glade]

you can get of your stamps to crazy gains if your dedicated enough with this.

[sweet trellis]

The more crops you have the more you can upgrade the "nutritious soil" wich increase growth speed. You will also want to get your night market going and invest in "speed GMO" these combined will allow you to get crops in seconds late game, and the faster you grow crops the more OG you get wich is one of the best ways to get more crops.

[iron cargo]

can someone drop me a W6-ish set of cards I can copy for my 3d printing?

[bleak gazelle]

check vman section
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at-y9t5ohYky33nOLoSxHYeyRX-3T91paj-nTSHrB3c/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324

[iron cargo]

will do!

it should work on non-vman characters, right?

[scenic magnet]

I'm still trying to get 10k stamp levels I think lmao

Actually nvm I'm at 10.5k

I guess I hit it at some point

[cloud glade]

if your dedicated and willing to level all stamps its not *that * hard to get to

[scenic magnet]

lmao can't do that anymore

[normal lagoon]

90% Atom + Gilded but yeah it's pretty nutty

[scenic magnet]

Not as bad as the kruk one

This thing is stupid

[cloud glade]

i got a luck boost and now im here

[scenic magnet]

Huge cog

[normal lagoon]

Lol yup, gotta daily stamp it and I don't stash bad stamps. Lava should really do something about this

[normal lagoon]

Man I was about to post mine and you just shit all over it

[scenic magnet]

Lmao

[normal lagoon]

Phone screenshot hence the full screen lol

[scenic magnet]

151% construct exp on a whole line is crazy

[normal lagoon]

Yeah way better than mine

[scenic magnet]

By far the best one I've had

[normal lagoon]

With 139% base on top of that too

[scenic magnet]

The best One I had eefore that was 83%

Dropped my build rate by like 1.4T but in the long run it'll be worth it

[normal lagoon]

Man I wish I could get Carpenter bubble to Atom range

[scenic magnet]

Man you are not wrong

[normal lagoon]

I got the Gallery Mult and Kruk bubbles to Atom the last 2 days and it was so nice

[daring rapids]

Gotcha, is it worth changing a couple sushi out then to get the crop I need for nutritious soil upgrades?

[normal lagoon]

Also Tachyons Bubble too

I should stop leveling blue salt

[scenic magnet]

Like 10 more days for the equinox tome

[normal lagoon]

Oof, you need more Coral.

[nocturne patrol]

wat are 3 last upgrade ? uwu

[normal lagoon]

???, Equinox Bar Mult, W7 S3

[scenic magnet]

W7 skill Equinox multi w7 skill

[nocturne patrol]

equinox multi wow

[normal lagoon]

Oh is Equinox sandwiched by S2 and S3?

[scenic magnet]

Yup

[normal lagoon]

That's so rude to do lava

[scenic magnet]

Not wrong lmao

[normal lagoon]

I'm not bothering with S3 until it comes out

[scenic magnet]

Honestly I'm gonna stop with it after I get the equinox multi

Yea same

It's not worth due to p3 is probably several months away

[normal lagoon]

Now that I got Brain Garbage maxed for next week groan, I'm now hard pushing Gallery to max, then Sneaking, then I'll go back to pink.

[scenic magnet]

P2 hasn't even happened yet

Also not entirely sure where to push this more

[normal lagoon]

Oof

[scenic magnet]

Gotta remember I can't really do the W7 statues efficiently

[warm cloud]

Did you push clamworks for brain coral levels too

[sweet trellis]

I would push land ranks a little bit first than once.it starts slowing down definitely.

[normal lagoon]

I'll send you my IT when I'm at my desk, I'm at like low 200/d

[normal lagoon]

Which rank? I have R4

[warm cloud]

It’s like 7 it’s only +15 levels tho so it’s mid

[normal lagoon]

Fuck that.

[warm cloud]

6 is 20% extra daily coral tho

[stone wing]

[scenic magnet]

This one shoulda been so much better lmao

[normal lagoon]

Yeah that's actually useful, but that's a ways away when getting out of R4 is giving me issues

[normal lagoon]

Ooh that's what I'm pushing next then lol

I was dumping it all on the vial

[scenic magnet]

That's the vial

[normal lagoon]

Wait that is a vial LOL

Idk why I thought that's a bubble

[scenic magnet]

I was saying it should've been so much better lmao

[cyan geyser]

what are skull points for rift?

[normal lagoon]

He really doesn't want to give us a lot of %

[faint anchor]

How do you get a trillion kills like my deathbringer level 450 literally the best stuff I can get currently does like a million per hour for green mushrooms

I just unlocked the eclipse skulls and oh my god

[normal lagoon]

Level 450

[scenic magnet]

I mean some people get like 800 coral daily

[normal lagoon]

Yeah, cuz they do silly shit like not using "bad" stamps

[faint anchor]

yes?

[normal lagoon]

And Lava encourages it by not bothering to do something about it

[scenic magnet]

Afk gain % high multikill and enough damage to hit the max multi-kill tier

[oblique jungle]

is there any good giude for w5 worship, all the builds i have seen i just die at around 60-70, the emneys just get pushed to the end

[bleak gazelle]

kill mobs, they get skulls, kill skulled mobs, they either die and give points or jump and ugrade another skull for more points
just auto till you get it imo

[faint anchor]

I would need to do 18 billion damage for that I don't even do one

[bleak gazelle]

#1277368276095336558 message

[faint anchor]

Maybe this mechanic just isn't for me

[normal lagoon]

Well that's sort of the issue. Your level says roughly your power level.

When you push through W7, your power will balloon like crazy. Also guessing you don't have Eclipse Skull on most mobs

[faint anchor]

Yet

[scenic magnet]

Damage has tons of sources so it just comes with time

[faint anchor]

I don't have eclipse on any

[scenic magnet]

You'll get it way faster then you'd think and often out of nowhere

[faint anchor]

I only have some of those purple skulls on a few and that's because I left the game for two years so I got a couple killed in that time

[normal lagoon]

If you have a second DB, start working on Eclipse only with them

[oblique jungle]

thx

[normal lagoon]

Both Eclipse and Apocalypse Wow are conveniently 1b kills, so two birds, one stone.

[faint anchor]

If I only kill about a million per hour on my main deathbringer I don't have a second wouldn't that take me like a billion billion

[faint anchor]

Are you ok?

[scenic magnet]

I have eclipse skulls w1-w6 and did it all on my deathbringer

[normal lagoon]

That's just normal, what do you mean

[scenic magnet]

For the Wows

[faint anchor]

That is not normal by any sense of the word

[normal lagoon]

When you get 1b+ kills per hour? It's pretty easy and normal.

[normal lagoon]

Stack all your AFK/KpK on your DB

[faint anchor]

I know you crazy world 7 people like to show off a lot but like I'm according to auto review early world 4 ignored my alchemy a lot

[normal lagoon]

Is Fibers helping or harming?

[faint anchor]

Larry is my best friend

[bleak gazelle]

helping at that point

[scenic magnet]

for w7 pushing it helps a ton

My kills per hour went from 3.6m to 4.8m

[normal lagoon]

We're not trying to show off, you just have a lot of making up old stuff to do. We've all been there

[normal lagoon]

I meant for Gmush lol

[scenic magnet]

Oh that I have no idea

[bleak gazelle]

don't forget it's an incremental game, so just..lots of everything

[normal lagoon]

For high MK, I feel like Fibers is usually a negative

[scenic magnet]

Does it even help because its meant for death note?

and portals

[bleak gazelle]

they're at max mk tier

[coral quail]

can any one help me with friend bonus i need only one dmg

[normal lagoon]

Oh then nvm lol

[scenic magnet]

I don't think it helps or makes it worse

its just meant for portal and deathnote pushing

[normal lagoon]

It makes it better if it's not affecting your MK Tier

[normal lagoon]

That's the majority of KpH

[normal lagoon]

Yeah the damage penalty can sometimes drop your MK tiers or push you out of MK

It can sometimes be only a negative

[scenic magnet]

It's a difference of like 1m kills without it

So it's not much difference

[normal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️

[scenic magnet]

But this on the otherhand

Makes a 700k difference having it on vs having it off

And in w7 that matters

[scenic magnet]

Also don't feel bad I feel like everyones ignored alchemy at one point or another and I've definatly ignored some stuff along the way

I didn't bother using autoreview because the instant I opened it I just saw a huge wall of text lmao

[iron cargo]

gotta love it when printer goes brrr triggers 10 times in a row

[faint anchor]

It does look a lot nice and out still a big wall of text but it's much more manageable I mainly just pick whatever I'm struggling with most and just work on that

[scenic magnet]

But genuinely the deathnote is just working on damage so you can reach high tiers of multikill

[thorny shadow]

little reprint

[scenic magnet]

Also Gmushes in particular the reason everyone has high amounts of kills on those are a lab node that gives money % for every 1m gmush kills you have

[iron cargo]

so, previously I was just buying whatever atom stuff was cheapest at the time. now that I've spent the whole day redoing my 3d print samples, and getting about 50+ hours worth of printing time... well, you can see where I was and where I am now.

[graceful mist]

should i buy these hats?

[faint anchor]

YES

[graceful mist]

alr ty

[faint anchor]

Every single premium hat possible because the bonuses you get are crazy

[gritty cedar]

While i wait for all my characters but one in Divinity. What should i do on my 1 character Please?
https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=mutabeareu

[iron cargo]

if you've got them gems, YES. YES YES YES. they're EXCLUSIVE to the gem shop and were previously never coming back and only came back now because the hat rack redefined premium hats.

[graceful mist]

i see i see

[scenic magnet]

Use it to either push w5 or gather materials prints or w/e you think you need to do

Usually pushing w5 with your DK is the strat

While the rest sit in lab jail

Divinity jail*

[cloud glade]

getting to w6 so you can get crops started is pretty important

[scenic magnet]

I just need a chain reaction to happen lmao

[iron cargo]

snail upgrade?

is that a caverns thing?

[scenic magnet]

Gaming

[iron cargo]

oh, guess I don't have the snail yet then

[simple wadi]

Thanks, you inspired me to work on my gmush kills. Been at 5 billion kills for a while. Twenty-two 24-hour candies later and I'm at 1.7 trillion kills.

[gritty cedar]

Oh okay, ill try push then, i wasnt sure if my account was missing somthing important and its worth grinding for better gear or mats or go for cards or somthing. Thanks

[void shell]

mirai

[scenic magnet]

That genuinely shocks me you've been sitting at that low as far in as you are

[simple wadi]

[void shell]

[scenic magnet]

My afk % isn't high enough to make full use of time candying more then I have

So I'm putting off more gmush kills for now

[simple wadi]

Started at 178kQ. We'll see if this nets me the next tier of coin.

[scenic magnet]

Honestly think you should do more I think most people sit at like 10T or more no?

[void shell]

like 100T to 10q range I think

[simple wadi]

I feel like if I'm going to do that, I should use something other than candies, haha. That'd be nearly 200x 24 hour candies.

[void shell]

no worries, I'm also at low gmush kills

[scenic magnet]

Christ okay nvm

[void shell]

anybody want those friend bonuses?

[olive haven]

i can take those the ones i have are like 15% lower atm

[void shell]

cog 4 rams

[olive haven]

coming in a minute

[void shell]

I'm going to need you to come down

did it send

[olive haven]

yeah got it

[void shell]

cool

[olive haven]

ty

[scenic magnet]

You still at cog 4 rams?

[void shell]

yeah

I'm starting to desync from daily crystals hehe

[scenic magnet]

God I accidently hit daily crystals on my AC once while doing CC at Tremors

That lagged so hard

It's already laggy without daily crystals

[olive haven]

what's with the rift lagging so hard

[scenic magnet]

What's your character name

[void shell]

randomjingle

did it get through

[scenic magnet]

Yea Appreciate it

[void shell]

oh nice, thought it wouldn't go through

[scenic magnet]

I only got 3 slots unfortunately but damage exp and drop rate helps

@normal lagoon Also I just thought about it but blue AC gem at gmushes xD

[sand timber]

do crits or mega crits effect afk gains at all?

[bleak gazelle]

rotate people out to get class levels for your last character to speed up div
once you unlock MSA (auto arm 3), spend worship charge on everyone to get some levels
if you're going to push with ES, make sure you swap over the nametag from your SB
spend books
can start pushing w5 right away if you want, just make sure your 2nd ES is setup for divinity talents
otherwise, working on some deathnote/card farming/mat farming earlier worlds in prep for vman, anvil point purchases, green stacks etc
also start swapping all your cogs to focus on exp%

[bleak gazelle]

btw what's the thing with > 12k levels?

[nimble onyx]

I've got 4 pairs of Kattlekruk wings and no Necklace 🙁

[sand timber]

@bleak gazelle you reccomend using the tier 15 ribbon from last event on the gold food meal?

[bleak gazelle]

yes, gfood is your number one target for ribbons

[sand timber]

okay thank you

youre the goat ❤️

[void shell]

think you can't send

[bleak gazelle]

oh, lul

guess i should just send to my alt soon i guess

[void shell]

I sent it to altcow

I think

[bleak gazelle]

i haven't checked in a few days

-# aka since the event's been done

[normal lagoon]

Mmhmm! Absolutely

Not just for the gmush, but also the oak logs! That's one of my top Atom Printers!

(just yet another reason 3 Archer sucks atm )

Lava give me character slot 11 and 12 now so I can get more atoms

[void shell]

huh, if you want more atoms, just print better

[normal lagoon]

Sure but 4 more printer slots?!

Two of which going to a second AC?

[void shell]

just increase your copper sample to 100q

[normal lagoon]

Sure I'll get right on that

[gritty cedar]

Thank you for the help and information. Is it better to push with ES or should i do DK?
Out of those options. What would be the best choice, Deathnote,Cards,mats or prep for vman?
Why swap from build to xp for cogs?

[normal lagoon]

Cogs only get you so far. EXP scales you to infinity

Combined with this

[bleak gazelle]

your DKs become all of your buildrate, so more xp% = more levels on them

[normal lagoon]

Normal BR vs BR without DKs

Cogs can get better, sure, but they only do so much and never get better, just replaced by better cogs.
DKs scale to infinity.

[bleak gazelle]

both ES and DK are fine to push w5 with, ES is slightly squishier but requires slightly less damage to kill boss
can't tell what your damage is like, but if your kph seems decent enough feel free to just push w5 then go back and work on everything else once you hit the w6 wall

[faint wigeon]

Still rocking a 500B copper print

[gritty cedar]

Oh okay, Thanks really good to know. Wish i new it sooner. Do i swap all my build cogs for xp or have half and half?

[normal lagoon]

All

You literally turn on the eyeball for EXP and ignore Build/Flaggy (Flaggy is slightly important if you still have closed slots though)

[gritty cedar]

my Es is better by a bit

[normal lagoon]

You may not like it, but this is what optimal cogs looks like

(with Jewel cogs, it makes it VERY confusing since Jewel Cogs only have one shape lol, plus I only have one X-shape +EXP cog)

[gritty cedar]

Thank you, Ill start replacing cogs

[normal lagoon]

The sooner you start building up EXP, the better, cuz then Carpenter bubble gets better and build rate goes up

[iron cargo]

big day today! first ever max vials!

[normal lagoon]

Nice streak, we're not deleveling again.

I will quite possibly never touch Gaming ever again if this fuck delevels again

[silent lance]

hi do arctis players get the wired in(x2 print for uploaded) bonus?

[normal lagoon]

Arctis players benefit from everything you would normally get if connected to the lab, except:

• They do not gain Lab EXP
• They are not considered in the Lab for the sake of Goharut (Divinity 5)

[silent lance]

tyty

time to print

[iron cargo]

apparently both of us today

[normal lagoon]

Awwwwww yiss

Expensive AF though lol

@scenic magnet

Idk what to spend my daily crystals on, I have no miniboss at 2 for orb cheese

[scenic magnet]

I would say maybe leveling a character but probably not needed

[normal lagoon]

Nah it's not

[bleak gazelle]

ooh, i should do domeo tonight

[normal lagoon]

I mean maybe VMan but eh, he's 11 levels away, he'll get it

Domeo on Tuesday for me

Today/tomorrow are chill. I did a ton of Biggie Hours yesterday

[scenic magnet]

I have like 70 odd eyes lmao

[normal lagoon]

Hmmm

Or just a big zenith cluster push

I just don't wanna forget in like 4h and be like "oops my crystals"

Just gonna do zenith I guess in W3 fuck it

[scenic magnet]

I mean maybe turn off zenith and grind statues?

for more levels

[normal lagoon]

Oh I did forget to turn on zenith so

Oh god it is lag city

[scenic magnet]

I wonder if he will or can ever raise the storage cap above 1050m

[normal lagoon]

First daily of having improved sigils 🥴

[hybrid roost]

Man getting from 1T to 10T is going to take awhile

[normal lagoon]

I just started and we're already capped

single digit FPS 🫠

FTR just so you have the info: They're not munched

[red rapids]

thank youuu

[normal lagoon]

This slideshow proves it

[void shell]

smh, why aren't you playing super optimally, gotta use a godbreaker instead of some homeless person asset looking axe

[normal lagoon]

The amount of DR from the Godbreaker set isn't that substantial. Also more damage = more MK = I still have no idea if it affects statues or not

Guys, my orb is almost expired and the crystals aren't stopping, send help.

[void shell]

it's just dr for statues

mk is just for hole

[normal lagoon]

and clamworks, and gmush, and

WHAT DO YOU MEAN FULL INVENTORY AGAIN

[void shell]

there's a solution

[pastel kayak]

I have most of the sets in that done

[normal lagoon]

Peaked orb: 6357

[void shell]

🔥

[normal lagoon]

I...

Speed Statue is nearing cap.

and the daily crystals are still here, going on Orb 2

LOL I GOT A GIANT WTF

[pastel kayak]

Killing green mushrooms for a few hors on main

[normal lagoon]

@scenic magnet Was just killing GMush on AC.
... out of form

[bleak gazelle]

number 3

[normal lagoon]

wowowowow

[scenic magnet]

Pain

[normal lagoon]

It was only for a few minutes dw lol

About to go do an XIV thing for 3.5h, prepping for Savage on Tuesday 🫠

[civic sedge]

is there a limit to this

[normal lagoon]

CPU dying from IO, GPU dying from XIV, hopefully comp will survive.

[civic sedge]

gracias

[normal lagoon]

I'm at single-digit Qs (or quadruple-digit Ts), so

@scenic magnet GMush sucks for AC crystal, needs a few more mobs or higher Tenteyecle% 😭

[civic sedge]

oh wait second question, can i afk 2 ppl at a monument?

[normal lagoon]

You can park 10 on the same one if you want

[civic sedge]

gracias

[normal lagoon]

Don't go overboard w/ Monument AFK until you get the actual stat of "Monument AFK"

It's pretty good.

[civic sedge]

wtf

[normal lagoon]

[civic sedge]

where/when do i get that

[normal lagoon]

The image tells you

[civic sedge]

eh?

[normal lagoon]

Summoning
Winner Bonuses
Jar
One specific one, I think Row 1, Column 4 of page 2 of the collectibles. I have it focused (via Student upgrade) to get most of the enchant levels.
Schematic, Measurement
Hole Bonuses from the villagers
Arcade
Self-explanatory
Achievement
Little Timmy achievement
Compass
WW Dust upgrade

[simple canopy]

Where to check

[normal lagoon]

!it Highly recommend learning how to read that site

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[simple canopy]

Btw how do we get little Timmy achivement

[normal lagoon]

PS: I've stopped IE completely, it's trash compared to IT

[normal lagoon]

throw ice cream at him 4 times, idk I still don't have it, he's a little twerp

[simple canopy]

Huh

[winged thistle]

Justice minigame has a chance for timmy to come out asking for money for ice cream. You gotta roll this event and pay him 4 times in 1 run.

[gritty cedar]

How do i get these to stop dropping, its already in the stamp guy

[simple canopy]

F timmy

[winged thistle]

Hand in the quest

[spare rune]

Monuments are still great right

[simple canopy]

Good enough if u invest time

[simple canopy]

Is this % or multi

[gritty cedar]

Ah thank you, its been driving me crazy

[spare rune]

Ok good so leaving my characters on monuments is a good thing

[simple canopy]

@normal lagoon

Nvm I can't read

[normal lagoon]

Sorry, about to do XIV thing for 3.5h, will be "AFK"

[runic cedar]

how should i best use lore chapter pages, i feel like i dont really make progress with them

[scenic magnet]

I'll eventually just afk it overnight

[scenic magnet]

2nd chapter atleast try to do 200k per day if possible if not save for it as often as you can first chapter just do the 2k

The speed is very minimal

[normal lagoon]

Spelunk Speed is kinda blah for 25k

[runic cedar]

oh boy o, i dont think i make 200k a week

[scenic magnet]

Just do your chapter ones daily it'll scale

[runic cedar]

i get like 250 pages an hour

[runic cedar]

so should i be doing a bunch at 2k for chapter one then or be holding on to them to go for the 25ks

i have 24k chapter ones in my storage right now

[scenic magnet]

Just the 2ks for chapter one

but yea after awhile your efficiency will be like this

And I've only done the first 2 chapters

I haven't done the 3rd or the 4th at all

[runic cedar]

is it worth it at all to do stacks bigger than the threshold if it doesnt reach the next tier, like i only get so many page reads a day, should i do a bunch at 4k or all at exactly 2k

[scenic magnet]

I mean more pages = more levels it really depends how fast you can generate pages

Also when farming pages make sure you use skill afk gain and all stat

I'm not entirely sure what effects spelunking but just changing my cards doubles my efficiency

Like I gain 200m just for changing my card sets around

[normal lagoon]

I think 24999 recommended for chapter 1 for example

I think

[scenic magnet]

They only have like 20k pages rn so it'd be better to do 2k page amounts until they can get more pages

[runic cedar]

yeah just trying to get to a point i can start generating decent amounts of pages

[scenic magnet]

Like I had 1 character farming tier 1 pages and I was generating like 300k+ daily

With a single character

So you'll get tons at one point or another

[scenic magnet]

Where's the 4th page located is it after spearfish?

[bleak gazelle]

IE sailing still clears IT

[runic cedar]

like i have 4 or so chars in the caves, getting about 200 ish pages per hour

[pastel kayak]

Last level of world 7

[runic cedar]

maybe but lets be real, IE is missing so many things, does it even have hole yet?

[bleak gazelle]

it's in the works

[runic cedar]

i get that, but its hole, isnt that kinda something that should be around by now

[bleak gazelle]

ok, all i said was i like the IE sailing section better

[prime compass]

spelunking->coming soon

[runic cedar]

theres things i like ie for that it doesnt do, but my ideal site would be a hybrid of the two

[bleak gazelle]

they used to be closer in scope and you'd actually use them both for various things, but think sludger had to step away from development for a bit so IE got left behind

i still feel weird reviewing people's ITs compared to IE though

[normal lagoon]

Last map, the cave (inside)

[normal lagoon]

Until it's wrong about the stats 🥴

@scenic magnet Man that's so much less than I was excpecting to have by now.

This map SUCKS

[bleak gazelle]

oh, i also like it for constellation completion

[runic cedar]

speaking of constellations i finally went and did them well most of them, theres a couple i just couldnt be bothered to do or didnt want to move chars around, but went from only having half of the first page to having most of seraph lol

still need to do infinite signs

[lapis breach]

is there more like this? like for further levels?

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I will steal all your in game pets now

[bleak gazelle]

lol

this is so dumb

[bleak gazelle]

no, you don't really need it. just continue to level red/green (till ~8.3k w/panda or 14.2k w/out) and keep lower salts at half the level of the prior. green can also be 2x blue

[lapis breach]

you mean the number at power per cycle at 8.3k?

[bleak gazelle]

rank*

[lapis breach]

damn thats gonna take a bit, but gotcha. tyty

final question. so i could level up orange to 32 now?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, the actual ratio is like 1.7x (so orange could technically be 37), but that basically allows no excess salt and is only geared towards whatever your end salt is...also harder to remember, so keeping a 2x ratio works

[void shell]

I'm a little off that ratio it seems

nevermind

I kinda just let red rank up quite a bit, then bothered with orange

so that I didn't have to worry about it

[frail phoenix]

I just unlocked golems, should i move everyone from lab+div to afk them?

[bleak gazelle]

[bleak gazelle]

if you've got at least 40 div sounds like a plan
-# potentially

[bleak gazelle]

i took a break at ~630 red to finish that vial, gonna be a while before i get the others

[lapis breach]

do bubbles that require salts let you use particles on them when you reach 100m per bubble upgrade?

[lime dust]

Best map to farm Kruk's Volcano Key?

[frail phoenix]

i did bubo in the worms for a night or 2 and got keys and liquids

[bleak gazelle]

wurms, dk crystal farm or cc

[glacial merlin]

im doing this rn and it seems to work better than using DK

[jagged silo]

first try

[frail phoenix]

Nice sounds good! Yea, at the time my dk wasnt that good, when i wanted keys, but now that i dont need keys, i do get more from dk lol

[glacial merlin]

my drop rate isnt the greatest loll

kattlekruk armor enough to push to w7? kinda want to unlock gallery

[void shell]

kruk is great

the 2 middle pieces give mob respawn

[glacial merlin]

took me the longest time to get my troll armor

[blazing gorge]

pretty sure my sneaking is broken.
i've opened so many loot bags and literally none of them have had an item in them.
even after leveling up some of the sneaking skills AND proceeding to the second floor, i can't even get a kunai to untie my first twin.
what am i doing wrong here or is my shit bugged?

[glacial merlin]

holding off on ungrading further cus i need the diabolical set unlocked and idh enough black salts 🤡

[upper mulch]

does auto trashing bad items in sneaking delete hats cause im trying tro get the heiress headdress

[tribal bridge]

Trapper Drone question: When setting traps for other toons, is it best to use the Hunter/BM with all skills buffed? Or do the traps get set at the skill rates for the other character? Same question about collecting are shiny drop rates affected by the cards of the toon collecting from the drone?

[sleek bear]

can i put this hat at the hat hanger and get its stats applied to all characters?

[limpid ore]

Yes

[sleek bear]

thx

[stone wing]

Am at school grinding zenith while not listening

[olive haven]

yes buy every hat always

[limpid ore]

Setting early on maybe bm is best but later on vman is better because of the hand talent, and yes shiny rate collecting are affected by the char claiming it

[tribal bridge]

Thanks, I just unlocked it, so all I have is the L92 Hunter

[limpid ore]

Everything else other than shiny chance like eff and exp are snapshotted while placing the trap

So collecting on any char is fine

[tribal bridge]

as long as the shiny cards are equipped 😉

[red rapids]

do you need the shiny trap cards equipped?

i thought since rift made all them passive you dont need to anymore?

[tribal bridge]

Just opened W4, no access to rift yet

[limpid ore]

U dont need to if they are passive

[red rapids]

ohhh ok. since this is the w5-w6 chat i just assumed you had it done my bad xD

[tribal bridge]

Chit, Sorry, I thought I was W3-4. my fault

[red rapids]

nah its all good, you can hang out whereever man, thats my bad for assuming

[limpid ore]

Should also still collect it on hunter because of the shiny talent if u wanna min max

[blazing gorge]

anybody know how to get kunai to untie char in sneaking?

[undone wagon]

"U can hang out anywhere, but dont go beyond w7 chat"

[blazing gorge]

every loot bag that turns up is empty, literally dozens of them now

[red rapids]

dont go to w7 chat, you never go into w7 chat >.>

[red rapids]

turn off your auto trash

[limpid ore]

It shouldnt do that

[blazing gorge]

it's been off

[limpid ore]

Maybe a bug ?

[red rapids]

well then yah thats bugged or something

[blazing gorge]

that's what i'm wondering

[olive haven]

the depth of this game is so insane for an idle game, i rushed w6 and for the past 100 or so hours i've just been learning what i skipped and grinding that out, still there's so much to do

[red rapids]

does it say you found an item?

[blazing gorge]

no

[blazing gorge]

give a percentage of likelihood of finding something but literally never find anything

[limpid ore]

Then just wait longer

[blazing gorge]

bro, it's been two weeks

[limpid ore]

And upgrade item find chance if u can

[blazing gorge]

i can't progress past first level cuz i can't untie the first twin

[red rapids]

i may or may not love this game xD

[blazing gorge]

i've done that, still no luck

[olive haven]

yeah i'm hooked too it has become my main game now pretty much

[red rapids]

the first twin isnt in the first level is he?

[blazing gorge]

no, second floor

i consider that first level tbh

[red rapids]

right... so you get nunchuks for doors every odd floor and kunai to untie every even floor.. so you should be able to open the door to next even without untying

[blazing gorge]

ahhhhhh, so kunai is only findable on even numbered floors?

[red rapids]

that is correct

[blazing gorge]

did not know that

[limpid ore]

U can check loot table in wiki

[lime dust]

Do I have to kill Troll 20 times for this?

Succeed at 20 of the Troll's mindgames, aka when he lets you hit him

[blazing gorge]

so just push to higher floors then to start?

[red rapids]

take a screenshot of your item screen

[limpid ore]

Depends if u one shot it then yes

[bleak gazelle]

probably just bad rng

Sneaking TL;DR
Every cycle (your timer), your characters can perform one action

• Looting (jade/xp/items - empty handed/glove equipped) (items have drop rates, you can find nothing)
• Untying (kunai equipped)
• Breaking down doors (nunchaku equipped)
• Being knocked out (if you fail the detect roll)
  -# if there are no tied ninjas or doors to break, you revert to looting, regardless of what's equipped
  -# looting jade/xp is guaranteed if a loot cycle is successful (I think), items have a separate roll
  -# it can sometimes be beneficial to not check sneaking often in order to amass enough cycles to guarantee a success

[red rapids]

ok and now a screenshot of the floors youre on

[blazing gorge]

if it's just bad rng, then it's literally the lowest level of dante's inferno...like satan's toe jam level low

[olive haven]

have you spent any coins on upgrades yet?

[blazing gorge]

yep, one sec

[limpid ore]

This

[red rapids]

k now the floors youre on

[blazing gorge]

k, one moment

thx for the help

[red rapids]

np. every bit of info helps. it looks like you should have enough item find for the basic floors

[red rapids]

ok so the on youre on right now, should drop a kunai

[limpid ore]

That is the right floor maybe just bad rng or bugged

[red rapids]

but damn... how the hell you got that bad rng xD

[olive haven]

that is so odd, with how high he is with perks/sneaking lvl how does he only have 2x lvl 1 nunchuk and 0 kunai

[blazing gorge]

no clue, i've literally opened dozens of bags now and spent about a dozen sneaking afk items to speed things up and every bag is empty. literally every. single. one. it's baffling.

[olive haven]

unrelated but don't waste points on lvling the gloves yet they come so much later, like 5-6 floors above where you're at or so

[limpid ore]

Highly likely to be bugged

[blazing gorge]

heard chef

[thorn ibex]

is there some 'trick' to summoning, it's getting annoying that my stats are higher but i always lose because it seems like enemies get mana faster and faster as the fight goes on while my summoning speed stays static

[red rapids]

i dont even know what totell you

[thorn ibex]

so if i can't win immediately at the start i lose guaranteed

[blazing gorge]

what is my recourse in this case? is there a way to submit bug reports or something?

[bleak gazelle]

if you drop back to floor 2 can you try and find some other items there?

[red rapids]

have you upgraded your summoning board?

[blazing gorge]

i can give it a try

[thorn ibex]

i have been but essence gain is very slow when i only have 4 wins

because of aforementioned cheating enemies

[red rapids]

well, upgrade your essence gain per level and essence gain per win, and then level up your main gain in competitions

[limpid ore]

U can try those and theres a bug report channel but yeah

[red rapids]

the start of summoning is slow.. very slow. and then it snowballs so fast xD

[blazing gorge]

gonna use a sand of time real quick to screenshot the loot bag opening to show what i mean

[thorn ibex]

essence gain per level isn't even an option for me yet

summoning level doesn't seem to do anything yet, lol

[olive haven]

i cheesed the first few fights by just spam spawning on the top part of the board, your units will just run past the enemies that are in the middle/bottom and straight into their spawn

think i got like first 6-7 fights on white green and yellow that way

[bleak gazelle]

send all on bottom row and

[limpid ore]

Early game that is the strat to send on bottom row

[pastel kayak]

About level 180 in endless summoning now @bleak gazelle

[blazing gorge]

used sand of time, loot bag waiting in lower left corner as expected, going to open now

[bleak gazelle]

what's your detect %, also?

[blazing gorge]

0%

[thorn ibex]

honestly this seemed like the trick, accept a few hits by not even fighting the enemies going down low and then slam through a bunch of units at once on the top

ty

[blazing gorge]

bro what

i literally just got my first item

[red rapids]

silly question but youve shut the game down, closed steam, checked for updates etc?

[olive haven]

[bleak gazelle]

[blazing gorge]

what the actual ffffffff

[bleak gazelle]

we did it chat

[blazing gorge]

BUT HOW!?!?!?

[olive haven]

[blazing gorge]

thx regardless y'all

[limpid ore]

just normal idleon shenanigan

[red rapids]

we dont know, we dont care, its working again and soon you'll be flooded with garbage

[red rapids]

actually though

[blazing gorge]

now i'm just even more baffled but whatevs, dry spell broken, back to the grind

[red rapids]

good luck in future bs

[forest forge]

how do i unlock the rest of these?

[bleak gazelle]

schematics

[forest forge]

k

[blazing gorge]

item looks to be a higher level nunchaku, which i guess is nice for breaking doors faster, but still need kunai

[pastel kayak]

@red rapids you need green fish?

[red rapids]

sure!

[pastel kayak]

Come to beans world 1 cog 4 now I am on deirdreamber

Not need a pet in return

[red rapids]

if you still cant get kunai off that floor you may have to bust a couple more doors down and go up higher and get the items from there. floor 4. also if you take off the nunchuks you can gather items without spending the time to bust the door,

[blazing gorge]

where is green fish from? don't recognize that one

[red rapids]

green sperm? w7

[pastel kayak]

Newest pets for workd 7

[blazing gorge]

ahhhhh gotchu, still pushing w6

[red rapids]

i dont see you

[pastel kayak]

@red rapids you solly13?

[pastel kayak]

Sent trade request

[red rapids]

thank you! i accepted

[pastel kayak]

Yw

I still have big fish problem @bleak gazelle

[red rapids]

you trying to get whallumus?

[limpid ore]

im missing balloon and whallamus from the new set

[pastel kayak]

Nope I have all pets

Had for ages only pet need can not be traded

[limpid ore]

glunko ?

[pastel kayak]

Yes

[drowsy cradle]

Can anyone explain how justice monument works

[cloud glade]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1347488472272998471

[normal lagoon]

Back by unpopular demand, it's me

Forgot we ended an hour early; 2.5h @scenic magnet

GMush sucks for this crystal shit lol

[snow breach]

what should i pick for my 3rd archer

[normal lagoon]

SB ||(the mistake was making a 3rd archer to begin with though)||

[faint wigeon]

[normal lagoon]

There's one good reason for WW x2, and that's 2x the Aethermoons. Outside of that, you get virtually no benefit from a second WW, so definitely Bowman/SB path and gamble on the MC it gets later.

(I have strong negative opinions about 3rd Archer in the current day and age, lol)

[faint wigeon]

just let him archer 🤷‍♂️

[normal lagoon]

I mean it's already made, so yeah, at this point it's just picking SB since WW is very whatever

[cloud glade]

since all classes will get a masterclass eventually youll get the same benifit from having an extra

[normal lagoon]

Except yadda yadda, no idea what W7 MCs will be like.

[molten axle]

when do I place all my characters in bravery

[normal lagoon]

When your Monument AFK gets higher and 1h is worth more than 1h

[molten axle]

how do I know that

200% afk gains?

[normal lagoon]

!it Check W5 => Hole => "Monument AFK"

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[molten axle]

oh

alright sure

[normal lagoon]

Learn IT, get used to IT, love IT

[molten axle]

I don't find the monument afk

[cloud glade]

A. its not w7 masterclass its just masterclass. why would lava add another masterclass npc
B. unless he goes in a complete different direction with them they will also have time saver drops that you will then get double of. so if you dont like archer classes having an extra will actually let you spend less time dealing with the T5

[cloud glade]

monument afk comes from endless summoning

[normal lagoon]

• "W7 Masterclass" as in "MCs added during W7". Hell Lava himself has said W6 MCs (see Image).
• You don't KNOW he's going to do the exact same system. Could he? Absolutely, but again, you're not Lava, so just assuming based on what we've already seen isn't a guarantee.

[molten axle]

bru I can't

[fallen orbit]

is w6 unlocked in speedrunning? ive 100% each map bosses and all and i cant run to w6

[normal lagoon]

And other sources too. Jar is an excellent one.

[manic island]

you may have to enter through w5

[normal lagoon]

If you're referring to Void Run, yes. I've pushed the first map of W7.

[manic island]

but you can even do w7

[normal lagoon]

Try starting inside Kruk's boss room btw

[manic island]

id say they are w7 because of the skills

[normal lagoon]

I mean yeah that too

[fallen orbit]

elaborate

[fallen orbit]

duh, why didnt i think of that, ty

[normal lagoon]

So you enter Kruk's room, kill him (if you want), then Void Run while still inside his room

It's a little trick that leaves all worlds open for some reason when you start your run

[molten axle]

I have none of that sadly

[fallen orbit]

goated

[normal lagoon]

What's the furthest cavern you have unlocked?

[molten axle]

the lamp

[thorn ibex]

all doors or just all worlds?

[normal lagoon]

Thank whoever's spreadsheet guide thing I saw like 2 weeks ago. It's not needed, but it lets you min/max optimize your Void Radius for W6 and then when it's down you can continue on pushing the earlier worlds

[molten axle]

I have a total of around 44 opals

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/bIGHfk8zhQL.gif

[normal lagoon]

Worlds, they just start open from the get-go

[manic island]

you may want to leave monument afking for later if youre early in hole

[normal lagoon]

If you don't, sometimes the worlds don't start open

[molten axle]

but I don't know what I can let my other characters do other than that

[normal lagoon]

@molten axle Put some hours into the monuments (you'll get another at C10 and C13 btw), but don't go crazy

[manic island]

divinity?

[molten axle]

purrmep unlocked already

[normal lagoon]

Given I still have things to work on, you definitely do

Also you

[molten axle]

pushing is going to need to wait before I get my damage up

[thorn ibex]

i've got so many things to juggle i haven't unlocked more than the very first monument thing

[manic island]

hmm

[normal lagoon]

CAN still afk monument

[molten axle]

sure

[molten axle]

aight I'll do 1 day of all characters bc I want more villager exp from bravery

[thorn ibex]

it's so hard to figure out which of the many different directions i can push things is secretly the best method to help me push through w6 and get to w7

[normal lagoon]

I have like the third or fourth unlock on each monument, and this was mostly before the crazy AFK I got

[thorn ibex]

cuz w6 is very very slow right now

[manic island]

thats the charm of idleon

[normal lagoon]

It's not massive as it's additive, but it's nice at the early stages, that's totally fine

[manic island]

when you reach w6 try to do horizontal progression

go back and check what you can improve

[normal lagoon]

Make sure you're not neglecting Cosmo btw. His blue points get you loads of XP

[manic island]

!autoreview

[molten axle]

oh additive, sure

[manic island]

is that not a command

[thorn ibex]

yeah like right now everyone's in w6 but i'm struggling to even get to rift 11

[normal lagoon]

!ar maybe this?

Nope.

[molten axle]

uhh what do I push, I believe I have touched almost everything

[molten axle]

that's actually interesting

[normal lagoon]

You should stop doing W6 and focus on W5 and below stuff.

[manic island]

do you know what autoreview is?

[molten axle]

yeah

[normal lagoon]

When you get to a new world, IMO the first things you should do is dive into the new skills/systems of the new world, but mostly focus on older world stuff you likely glossed over.

[molten axle]

but death note is trash for me, and like the others are time-gated stuff that I have to wait

[normal lagoon]

Don't start pushing new world right away as you're extremely likely to be underpowered for it

[thorn ibex]

i can kill most enemies pretty quickly but map clearing is slow due to long cooldowns and slow respawns

[manic island]

use it its really useful

[thorn ibex]

and auto being really stupid and prioritizing a single random lone enemy in the corner over a pack

[manic island]

try to go through bubbles, try to push equipment

[thorn ibex]

and using all the abilities on it

what is autoreview?

[molten axle]

equipment needs nullo salt, so still gotta wait sadly

[manic island]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

its a tool that uses your idleon efficiency page to try to give tips to progress

[thorn ibex]

i only just actually managed to get nullo salt up and running yesterday but it's excruciatingly slow and i'm not sure if the supply chain of 3d printing leading up to it is infinitely sustainable

[manic island]

ofc it doesnt cover everything since everything is subjective

[thorn ibex]

before my like 2~ year hiatus, my 3d printer couldn't even sustain green

but when i came back there were so many bonuses just lying around for free

[prime compass]

i wish there was some way to choose which attacks got used during auto instead of it being on or off, because there are some i want casted and some i dont

[manic island]

remove them from the attack bar

[thorn ibex]

he means so that he can manually activate them still

at the right moment

[manic island]

also it prioritizes the first row from left to right

[prime compass]

i just got shafted by a horrible raise dead

[manic island]

maybe put it last

it will be less likely to proc, but yeah it would be easier if it gave you the option

we really need a qol focused update

[thorn ibex]

oh god auto review

is so much information

also.. uh.. - my red salt is rank 12 - rank 100 would take me like.. months of refine off

[gritty cedar]

What is better Chizoars blankie or chaotic amarok pendant

[normal lagoon]

Omniphau on Pocket Divinity, it'll get free gains

Red always stays auto-off, no real reason to turn it on until much later

[thorn ibex]

oh should i be rushing divinity more?

everyone's been trying to finish clearing w5 to get constellations

so nobody's had time to divine

i got to bug for 2x killcount

and used the cave/hole to give everyone the polar bear to keep lab running

[edgy saddle]

Straight to div jail, do not pass gow5 town

[prime compass]

its always a fine time to divine

[barren osprey]

chizoar maybe? you can upg it 🤔

[normal lagoon]

Pushing further would be good. Purrmep (God 7) is quite good, gets a lot of solid bonuses

Harriep (God 4) gives a lot of 3D Printer bonuses (good choice for Pocket Divinity); Goharut (God 5) lets you Div while in the Lab so you can level both simultaneously.

and Omniphau (God 6) gives a LOT of bonuses to some activities when you claim AFK, Refinery being one of them (best choice for Pocket Divinity)

[thorn ibex]

which one is pocket divinity, again?

[normal lagoon]

Hole, Conjuror Green Points
Unless you have a Doot pet, then ignore pocket divinity completely

(you did say you came back from 2y ago, so I wouldn't have a clue if you do/don't, plus we've seen people have Doot pre-W5 come in and ask about it lol)

[thorn ibex]

no doot sadly

i do have the conj green thing it's just used for polar bear right now

[normal lagoon]

Do you have 1 or 2 points in it?

[thorn ibex]

1 so far

i only have 3 gods so

and so few points

[jagged silo]

Is bubba affet by this?

[normal lagoon]

Okay so dive into Blue points for EXP and also the 3rd blue point lets you invest multiple points into stuff.

• The ideal setup is to Pocket Div Omniphau and Harriep.
• Link everyone (except ES) to Goharut if they're Divving (so you can Lab + Div), or Arctis if they're not (so they still count for Lab).
• ES links to Purrmep (assuming you have a second, they link to Kattlekruk), and they Poly talent into Arctis or Goharut (whichever applies)

[normal lagoon]

Don't believe so, but don't 100% know for sure

[prime compass]

someone said that one of them(im pretty sure it was bubba) isnt

[jagged silo]

[normal lagoon]

You can also run Nobisect over Harriep if you don't care about 3D as much and want to push DN/Portals, or take your main pusher off Arctis for Nobi; at some point you won't need 10 characters always in lab.

[thorn ibex]

one thing that seems like a problem with lab is no matter how long the link gets, it still requires your character to be RIGHT NEXT to the node to link it

is there a way to increase link range for the node itself instead of to other characters?

[prime compass]

you get stuff that changes that

[normal lagoon]

That's the Lab Con(nection) Range stat, that's a different stat

You get it via Summoning and Equinox, probably elsewhere too

[prime compass]

the node at the end affects it

[thorn ibex]

i cannot make almost any progress in equinox

[thorn ibex]

i will most likely get the green 10 items in the box relatively soon but it's slow going because 10m is a lot and my 3d printer isn't that fast yet

[normal lagoon]

It's very slow early on but you will eventually

[thorn ibex]

i will need to turbo grind all skills for all my characters to have a hope at killing weekly boss at max difficulty

[normal lagoon]

You will, eventually.
(PS: Due to Lab and Harriep bonuses, the ACTUAL amounts printed are 6x the numbers shown)

[normal lagoon]

Oh before you do, make sure you level the Level Up Gift bubble.

[thorn ibex]

i don't remember the other two clouds

[thorn ibex]

i DO have sheepie

[normal lagoon]

(equip it on everyone if you don't have the Sheepie pet)

[normal lagoon]

FUCK, I got inb4'd 😆

[thorn ibex]

i bought one bundle to fish for the goat when i realized it existed

[normal lagoon]

Yeah Sheepie is GOATED pet for a green

[thorn ibex]

got sheepie, didn't get goat,

[prime compass]

goat?

[normal lagoon]

Oh Dedo Ram?

[thorn ibex]

yea

[prime compass]

oh ram

[normal lagoon]

Do you still need one?

[jagged silo]

ram is almost free can get

[thorn ibex]

i bought ram bundle, then used the gems to buy new pet bundle instead

[normal lagoon]

IMO it's worth the pack given the storage slots, but I can give you on--- oh okay

[thorn ibex]

got the fish with the balloon, traded it with someone for whale

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah Balloonfish is massive

[jagged silo]

blue one or yellow one?

[normal lagoon]

But yeah level up the gift bubble for sure before getting crazy into skills

[thorn ibex]

oh i haven't thought of leveling it

but i have gotten a couple hundred gems just from leveling everyone from 200 to 400

[normal lagoon]

You should, you get SO many

There's also I think 2 unique stamps from it as well

[edgy saddle]

Is it normal that my deathnote is saying my kills went down, somehow? I went from full dimentia skulls to now they're mostly plat?

[thorn ibex]

i think i have like at least level 20

[prime compass]

speaking of stamps, im still mad that my 3d printer stamp from trash island for some reason disappeared

i dont know if it dropped in the world or what, but it just doesnt exist anymore

[jagged silo]

still not wort that much cause it cap at 90%

[warm cloud]

it’s really easy to get 90% now tbh

[prime compass]

well i spent several days worth of garbage on it, and im early w6, so i dont think i have access to the "easy 90%"

[normal lagoon]

Did you Void Run?

[prime compass]

so it would've been preferable to not go poof

[edgy saddle]

Yeah, does that reset it?

[normal lagoon]

Void Run is the only way to lose DN kills

[normal lagoon]

It resets ALL kills on the VW to 2m (I think 2m?) unless Portal Requirements are higher than 2m, then it sets it to whatever the portal req is

[edgy saddle]

...ah

[normal lagoon]

(that does mean it also unlocks every portal you have unlocked, for free, including unfinished Multilocks!)

If I had to guess, it was the only way Lava could make Void Run a thing without interfering with the VMan's portal prog, by just, letting him not have to prog at all

[normal lagoon]

Btw, something to look forward to:
(not just the insane lab width, but look at the con range!)

[prime compass]

even if you dont like the node, i consider it a sin for the 5x cap -30% regen node to be unlit, just for aesthetical purposes

[normal lagoon]

Woo down to the last page

[normal lagoon]

Oh I don't disagree, it flares my OCD like crazy

But also, my OCD calms the fuck down when it sees the loss in efficiency

[prime compass]

i lose efficiency if i dont have it on, because i always forget to do stuff with it, and i dont have a high base cap

[normal lagoon]

If you don't have this, stop everything, go push Equinox.

[prime compass]

oh yeah i remember seeing that

[normal lagoon]

Cap is irrelevant when it's 1% spillage

[split token]

Do any cards work on masterclass?

[normal lagoon]

DR definitely does

[split token]

just DR? as accuracy doesnt seem to

[normal lagoon]

• Mostly useless for DB (I mean some free extra drops/cards?)
• Same for AC until much later
• WW gets the DR benefit kinda early

[normal lagoon]

I'm pretty sure nothing combat-related

[split token]

ah ok i just got my AC yesterday

[prime compass]

yeah. the regular game is supposed to have little effect on it

[normal lagoon]

Have fun giving up on it very quickly.
That said, I would recommend hard focusing on rushing the 1000 "Fragments"

[prime compass]

the fragments are sooo slow

[normal lagoon]

PS: By "giving up on it" I mean Arcanist Form ftr

[split token]

so pump droprate as hard as poss gotcha XD

[open prairie]

mastery?

[normal lagoon]

Needs to be like this or bust.

[normal lagoon]

Coral IIRC

God even while high I still know shit

FTR: Funeral Flowers is insanely good, pump it

[open prairie]

ooo

[normal lagoon]

It's what lets you do dumb fucking shit like this (notice the Mastery 5)

[open prairie]

have you done the 50 gold belt

[normal lagoon]

On like M2 or so

I tried for AWHILE pre-Mastery but just could NOT get it, so I gave up, came back to it later (on M2)

[open prairie]

if you have auto delete on does it still count

assuming it gets deleted

[normal lagoon]

I can 100% PERSONALLY confirm that yes it does.

[open prairie]

great to know

[normal lagoon]

Because I looked in my inventory, got the achievement, NO belt to be seen 😆

[open prairie]

🤣

[normal lagoon]

Yeah so do it early, do it late, either way, don't gotta worry about it getting trashed

You have the 100% Polar Guarantee Seal of Approval on that one.

[normal lagoon]

(did I mention the being high part already?)

[open prairie]

hopefully i get it soon haha

[prime compass]

killing sheepie with a wormhole open on es is distressing 😭

and the sound on

[normal lagoon]

[prime compass]

hmm it looks like there definetly is some sort of object/platform in behind this portal, because one of the poison clouds landed on it, and i had mentioned in one of the chats that my character hopped on the air behind that portal

[normal lagoon]

Yeeeeeeeap, stuff like that all over

Above the Darts in Sneks room is really funny, throws noobs for a loop when Funguy's like "kill all the mobs!" and they can't even be found

[prime compass]

from what i read, the dart game is blocking spawns

thankfully you can just go to the other map and kill the same mob type and it counts

[flint quail]

i have the next mastery level unlocked. Isit worth to stay and get this achievement be4 proceeding?

[tawny cave]

what are some sources of raising max snail level

[vocal turtle]

What drop rarity to aim for to start into w7

[sly plank]

do you need to claim monuments in increments of 1h? will 1h 59min only count for 1 hour or will it still count the minutes?

[tiny atlas]

only 1 hour

[paper nova]

Any1 rememberr where the pin is that shows where all the summoning stones are

[faint wigeon]

just keep going it's luck in the end

[faint wigeon]

(or check AC guide)

[paper nova]

thx buddy

[faint wigeon]

duper bit

[flint quail]

thing is if i keep going, wouldnt i have to disable the "trash bad loot" option in order to try and aim for this +50 belt 🤔 ?
But i guess thats no different from what im doing now to get this +50 anyways

[faint wigeon]

at first with no monument afk bonus it's on the hour but the more bonus you have the less 'increments' you can do
like something like this for me

[faint wigeon]

I reckon you can still get the achiev if the belt 50 is auto trashed

[zenith lintel]

If I'm trying farm capes and keys for bosses it's better higher drop chance or drop rarity?

[normal lagoon]

Not really nah, dw about it. I got it on Mastery 2

[zenith lintel]

I don't understand the difference tbh

[silk idol]

this is confusing, why am i not getting the first plant?

[pseudo path]

Replant the seed and lock it so it can't evolve

[silk idol]

ahh ok got it

[pseudo path]

I had the same issue someone reminded me you can lock plants lol

[twin idol]

Tip for you, go to handyman tools and remove your crop then lock this empty crop then plant. (this is helpful for when the crop speed is too fast)

[silk idol]

thanks a lot

[zinc torrent]

Bro how high is your afk % like 690%?

[fading narwhal]

should i restart if showdown gets too hard?

[zinc torrent]

Each reset is only one level, you should if youre just farming items/cards

[hot glacier]

is this a good thing to pop a t15 ribbon on (I have 2 left)

[zinc torrent]

No

[normal lagoon]

A decent ribbon? Yeah.
T15? Nah. Yumi Peachring is the first one for sure

[robust pawn]

What do people like to do after Peachring?

[zinc torrent]

There is tier list, but skill eff is never bad thing

[normal lagoon]

I threw my extra 15s on Summon EXP and Meal Cooking Speed, 13s went on Bits via Gaming (Sausage) and Amber (Singing Seed)

[mental frost]

How often are you guys touching farming after 280 crops?

[zinc torrent]

Still multiple times weekly with exotic market, and resetting from crop evo to exp

[harsh wagon]

im realy struggling to find how to get more damage out of alchemy

im probably being stupid but i can figure it out

[tiny atlas]

yeah i just had this problem lmao how much are ur base damage bubbles on

[void shell]

just get every bubble to like 90% of their max effect

[tiny atlas]

i have that but hardstuck on damage turns out ....

[void shell]

level quickslap, don't worry too much about the other two, then power of tri one two three

[harsh wagon]

quickslap feels really small, how hard do i have to push it

[void shell]

I just filled my cauldrons once and leveled it

it gets stronger once you push the speed statue

[harsh wagon]

rn my move speeds at like 1k%

[harsh wagon]

is this candy clicking or something

[void shell]

I candy clicked it yeah, just 1 cauldron though. You don't actually have to though, you can just use atoms to level it up later on

[charred raptor]

candy clicking qs

[void shell]

does 1 cauldron count

[charred raptor]

[sly plank]

I’m approaching the end of my onyx grind, for kapow I need to spend 20k power for each character and complete the 100k statue dropped quest?

[charred raptor]

a tourist i see

[edgy saddle]

do balloons work on shared-level skills like summoning/farming/etc.?

[void shell]

gotta dip my toes into every little game gimmick

[void shell]

probably not

I never tested I'm a good boy

[viral python]

Div stonks

[void shell]

hey it's the teapot guy

[charred raptor]

usually shared lvl skill u cant balloon it

[viral python]

balloon cooking

prob most useful thing for it

[void shell]

that's not shared

[viral python]

yeah cant balloon sharde stuff

[void shell]

cool

[viral python]

that would be broken

close to the 1k mark

[edgy saddle]

so balloons exist to be greenstacked

[void shell]

[viral python]

kinda but really good for cooking levels and some eearly worship levels

[zinc torrent]

Youre not stacking balloons

[viral python]

no one said you couldnt try

[zinc torrent]

Im sure plenty have said it. They arent drops, meaning obtaining is finite

[charred raptor]

giant drops them

[edgy saddle]

so balloons exist to be yeeted into the sun like the god of helium intended

[zinc torrent]

Giants are finite

[viral python]

leveling anything drops them also

[charred raptor]

well almost 7% gstack

[zinc torrent]

Indeed... but what is current account level cap? Skill level cap?

[viral python]

infinite considering huge xp buffs from w7 and class exp...

[paper nova]

If I grind a map to max gains with this at max level and then drop the level down to like '114' like it is now, will that map lose the gains down to whatever the 114 is?

[viral python]

marble is better to sample with cause of the %all stats?

[zinc torrent]

Scaling hits like brick wall

[iron cargo]

is there a stat somewhere that increases the rate that shinies level? like, other than just having more shinies.

[paper nova]

the last upgrade in breeding is a shiny booster

[viral python]

active ww gives shiny levels faster

[iron cargo]

cuz I got a suspicious boost on my shinies and I'm unsure if I just lost track of what levels my shinies were at, or if I accidentally got a boost somewhere

no, it seems like I was just a dumbass

thanks anyways!

[paper nova]

n e 1 .,.. ? 👀

[iron cargo]

wait, the lamp boosts shiny levelling?

[zinc torrent]

Yes

[iron cargo]

oh snap how did I miss that

definitely going to dump my wishes there from now on, then

[paper nova]

Easy to forgot all the litle things

esp when you aren't focused on that 1 thing

i forgot lab xp was here and i just left bubo in lab for like 2 weeks -.-

[viral python]

my lazy ass...

[iron cargo]

ah yes, the strategy I call "technically progressing" wherein I lazily do my daily login tasks and then check all my skills and click maybe 5 total times on each of my characters and then move on until I feel like tackling the almost certain massive progress shift I've long since been able to access.

its the main strategy of my people: the Lāz'ey

[sly plank]

I’ve barely touched monuments, at what point should I leave lab/div jail to afk at monuments? and at what point is it worth taking them out to afk at grotto for villager statues? (and eventually dragon statue?)

[viral python]

when you can reach all lab stuff

and chip slots

[sly plank]

lol damn that was so long ago