lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[faint wigeon]

[jolly junco]

huh, wonder which one is accurate

[sullen parrot]

where do i see my white essence per hour gain in summoning

[jolly junco]

Guessing wiki?

[jolly junco]

Go into your skills tab

[sullen parrot]

ty

[clear fog]

summ exp is rly good bc starsigns

[sullen parrot]

damn w6 peak so far

should i bother with unlocking mcs or thats like mid/late w6

[torpid ridge]

would you say it's worth making prehistoric armor or should I keep emperor armor

[flat trench]

Honstly the worst portal placement ever... Like i accidentally tap the portal on the mama troll zone while i try to kill the demented spiritlord 😔

And it's all gone now

[gentle tapir]

started big prints recently and my inventory can't hold much it seems, like 15m. How do I increase that?

[primal jasper]

Does the gem shop upgrade for the sprinkler go to 101% when maxed? Or what's the chance

[rich mountain]

is there a max lvl in studying

[narrow edge]

question, how does the 100x mana cost for damage upgrade stack with losing hp for damage upgrade in summoning? multi or addi?

[cursive crypt]

how does the starry night delight work like how does it tell u what prize u won i dont get it?

[warm yew]

so question after i do endless and win do i get essence? i feel like my essence is going up a crazy amount

[narrow edge]

box surrounds the prize tier u won

[onyx gazelle]

would you guys say this is a must buy to save for for f2p? or not very necessary

[narrow edge]

no

[warm yew]

i guess its the essence doublers then l

[cursive crypt]

no like when i scratch if i look at the paper how can i know

[faint wigeon]

idk but op dmg

[cursive crypt]

like it says reveal four to win the corresponding prize what does that mean

[faint wigeon]

cyan upgrade that increase essence generation per endless win?

[faint wigeon]

reveal four symbol (stars) (in a row in same line) to win the corresponding prize (5th slot -> list on the right)

[meager orchid]

We got build speed now

[cursive crypt]

yeah but i had 4 stars and i didnt get the prize on the right i got smth worse

[faint wigeon]

got 4 star (not the broken one yeah)?

[cursive crypt]

yeah

[meager orchid]

You should unlock them cuz they have big bonus skills for the W6 stuff like sneaking, farming, and summoning, then you should also start them and play til you get the AFK candy for them going and then you can forget about pushing with them for a while

[narrow edge]

@cursive crypt dont ever buy scratch cards

on the idleon side, theres nothing you can do to change the result so just press the button and forget. u get what u get

[cursive crypt]

also what happens if u dont get 4 stars at all

[cyan nimbus]

Mate what are you trying to build?! 🤣

[cursive crypt]

ok im alrd f2p so yeah im good

[faint wigeon]

guess

[meager orchid]

I put it on my second DK who just sits in monuments most of the time

[faint wigeon]

you don't win if you don't get the winning strike

[cursive crypt]

i see i thought that was just another prize picture

[warm yew]

hey question, where are the other summoning battles in other worlds?

[narrow edge]

check summoning tab in IT

[faint wigeon]

or #1388287254623158426

[cursive crypt]

1 at equinox the other at worm dudes in w5

[meager orchid]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Summoning#Summoning_Stones_Bosses

[warm yew]

thank you

[cursive crypt]

whats the best pet out of those 3 in the wishing candle?

[obsidian dust]

got to leef and discovered the kill needed 💀

[meager orchid]

they are all good, the ball bonus is great and panda would be dope

[cursive crypt]

i see thx

[obsidian dust]

since im always behind on nullo salt panda is great

[grave isle]

jade gain in arcade a good purchase?

[vagrant pumice]

i will ask again, how long do i sit on divinity at first (without any divinity bonuses for the time being) before focusing on other skills or leveling up etc?

[grave isle]

until you get tranquility skill and bear divinity

[civic jetty]

I personally did it until arctis (second god?) then ignored divinity until later since I didn't wanna do it. Waited for the big exp bonuses

[grave isle]

tranquility is so u can get divinity exp even when youre not in divinity or lab

[obsidian dust]

i did until goat

[civic jetty]

Really, just do it as long as you can stand but realistically a couple of gods at least

But don't hate the game because of it, just return later if you are. It'll become much easier

[opaque nymph]

Is DR% from Wisdom monument a linear upgrade?

[meager orchid]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[graceful fern]

What are the new blackmarket event shop currently?

[vagrant pumice]

so i stay on divinity... forever? xd

or at least till i unlock the simultaneous lab/divinity then i guess i move to labs... till i unlock passive xp after which i can actually use my characters

[pseudo blaze]

im trying to get the golden belt achievement is there any upgrades that might block me from it?

the +50 golden belt

[strong chasm]

Its capped and not linear no

[feral maple]

procrastination

[pseudo blaze]

yes my max item is like 200+ rn xd

[meager orchid]

When I did it a couple months ago I legit put all my dudes on there and just closed the game, would check every few hours and put them on the next mantra when they unlocked but I think it was like 4 days or so that I didnt really play lol

Its worth it though cuz the bonuses are insane, just gotta be patient at first

Just follow that guide

[obsidian dust]

since w6 is now only 3 charaters what should i push with ?

[pseudo blaze]

theres no + min level trinket upgrade right?

[opaque nymph]

Do you know the max potency of the DR% by chance?
Also, what would the best upgrade be, for the wisdom monuments?

other than Wisdom multi, and chopping eff?

[pseudo blaze]

i vaguely remember an upgrade saying that

[meager orchid]

push with 2 and then unlock the 3rd with vman speedrun

[strong chasm]

Check on idleon efficiency or the wiki idk it by memory and i would say class xp is very good if its from that monument

[obsidian dust]

oh you can do that thx !

[opaque nymph]

Wisdom has class xp?
I thought only justice gives it

okay thanks, i'll check it out

[meager orchid]

the vman speedrun will unlock all gates that your furthest dude has pushed

[strong chasm]

Ah no wisdom doesnt but im sure you will find a bonus fitting for you ^^

[graceful fern]

One good justice session give me double exp that one time

[pseudo steppe]

Does anyone have an up to date idea on how to distribute opals on the cavern? Read through the pinned but that says to stop investing in explorer at C9 but theres 10-15 now right?

[old portal]

pretty sure getting to max cavern is the best way to go so invest there

[pseudo steppe]

Just dump all into explorer or will that leave me a bit too stunted?

[old portal]

id do that yeah

what does this 2k gem means btw p2w spend?

[pseudo steppe]

Yeah

[graceful fern]

I feel like wait until c10 first, then upgrade engineer or measurer

[wide horizon]

what happens if i prisma this bubble

will it do nothing or i just have fixed giant chance from now on

[pseudo steppe]

Like, remove all from explorer at c10? Or just put all into him until then, then branch out with future ppals

[lucid sentinel]

U wont have the villager xp to get c15 most likely btw

[graceful fern]

Before I answer, what's cavern are you on

[pseudo steppe]

Definitely not, I have like 84 opals atm

[lucid sentinel]

later explorer lvls require a lot of xp

[pseudo steppe]

9

10 will take abouut 5 days will all opals at which point I can reinvest them all

So Im thinking that

[graceful fern]

Ok then, wait until c10 and then after that put all in on one guy

5 days is fast for a New cavern, most of the time you spent 10-14+ days maybe

[pseudo steppe]

Reckon measure or engineers better to drop them on after? Or half and half?

[old portal]

i need 200hrs for my c15 lol

[graceful fern]

Its still normal tho I give you that

[gentle tapir]

Is 15M the max stack size until I unlock the atomizer?

[old portal]

nope no cap iirc

[pseudo steppe]

Just the default atom value I think, wont do anything without it

[graceful fern]

Half or spreading opal early is not a good idea man

After c15 and you got nothing to do except upgrade like conjurer and study then you can spread

[gentle tapir]

My printing won’t print above that though

[orchid dagger]

Where to dig today?

[gentle tapir]

Or is it just an IE tools issue and it is actually still printing more?

Can’t login to check cause iOS not syncing to new update

[frigid slate]

I'm gonna level up Engineer again tomorrow at 8:46 AM

[old portal]

where is todays dig

[zinc torrent]

Push World 6 or get vman?

[lucid sentinel]

it hasnt reset from yesterdays yet, so its still in the mimic area

[lucid sentinel]

vman

[zinc torrent]

damn those 1mil kills gonna take ages lool

[brave delta]

Why is my first character the only one in sneaking? I've visited the hotel on my other characters. Is there a future upgrade I need to get?

[lucid sentinel]

u gotta untie them with kunai which u get on higher floors

ull find them as u go up the tower

[brave delta]

Ah I see! Thanks a lot 🙂

[radiant barn]

what does speedrun do? just unlocked vman

[lucid sentinel]

its how u get talent points for vman talents

[tacit shore]

i have a little question about sneaking, i'm on mastery 1 and since around a week when i claim loot i see the text "found an item" from nearly all the characters but in my inventory are like 3 Items.. and no auto sell is not active.

[simple wadi]

You auto trash kunai now since they're no longer needed.

[left kindle]

oh thats sick actually

[tacit shore]

oooh that makes sense

[tender nexus]

can you somhow toggle on/off elemental gear drop on WW Tempest mode?

[left kindle]

Elemental? No
You can toggle weapons and you can toggle rings

[tender nexus]

how/where?

[left kindle]

in the compass

idk the exact locatiohn of the node but they're both up left

[tender nexus]

oooh I see now, found it. Thanks!

it's an upgrade for the toggle then the toggle button is in the upgrade that unlocks weapons and rings respectively. awesome!

[maiden yoke]

does anyone know if this still works? having trouble getting the other sheets to update based on the stats on the INPUT page

[exotic ruin]

should I get the incense or hold for the 25 one?

[left kindle]

always spam the lower cost one until 100% pops up

[tender nexus]

meta for Div has been to click incense until tithe is at 50%, then get enough points for tithe

[lucid sentinel]

do the lower one until its 50% or higher, until yr at kruk then lower one until its 100%

[left kindle]

Gambling on 50% 😬

[lucid sentinel]

earlier gods r cheap enough

[exotic ruin]

ok ty guys

[dire cedar]

ayyyyyy got another endercaptain

[opaque nymph]

You're pushing W7, am not sure if the push benefits you much honestly
Your W3 progressions seem to be abandoned

Do your Equinox challenge
Fill all the 3D printer slots
Not sure why you would focus on the book construction, but okay. I would recommend to start focusin on tower first, so you can get benefit from the higher wave

Collect your traps
re-do your construction. at your account lvl you only need 2 DKS and bunch of exps
You can get quite good amount of set bonus if you spend a bit of time on Armor Smithy

You seem to rely on NBLB too much, prioritize skilling bubbles
unlock your Vials

man... am not even that far into your account, and so much things you can do actually
if you walk one at a time

[frosty cipher]

bruh

Idk what to do atp

[opaque nymph]

you're pushing W6 without multikill?

[left kindle]

Get more stats

[dire cedar]

i need to get 3 more endercaptains and all my guys wil be ender captains. slowly getting there

[frosty cipher]

Alright, what are you suggesting?

[left kindle]

Get wayyyyyyyyy more damage

[vague saddle]

So my current talent levels arent the highest, my library gives me a max of about 135. What else can I do to increase it? I heard I need way higher for ac and stuff

[frosty cipher]

How? I'm hitting a huge wall of "can't get more damage"

[opaque nymph]

as Xander said, set back and get more stats
you can do lab jail, gather more resources to craft better gear
do hole,
do divinity
raise more talent lvl

[left kindle]

You've probably done like 0 statue grinding based on that movespeed

[frosty cipher]

I don't even know how to do statue grinding

[left kindle]

Bubbles, statues, hole, lab/divinity, breeding.
You skipped every single feature of every single world, of course you're gonna have a hard time pushing w6

[opaque nymph]

your stamps might be abandoned too

[left kindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/694193360855892058/1366024279384264764/convert.gif

[frosty cipher]

Bubbles consume too many resources

I feel like it's now about one singular grind for one singular thing

[opaque nymph]

get on skilling,
do print to get more atom
if too expensive, then use the discount coupon

[left kindle]

most likely cant even atom click them

[opaque nymph]

i mean.. it's an idle game,, not a speedrun

[left kindle]

You can get good boosts from early level bubbles

[vague saddle]

Is lab jail legit just putting every character in lab?

[left kindle]

If you are in w4 #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
Not in w5 or above

[vague saddle]

For how long? and should I still keep game open for online progress for christmas event

[frosty cipher]

Atp I feel like stopping playing idleon because I'm hitting a serious grind wall that will take years quite literally

[vague saddle]

I'm w6

I just abandonaned lab a bit

[opaque nymph]

your lab will only progress if you AFK
usually people go until lv 1500 at first, collectively
then 2250

[left kindle]

yeah so just make sure you unlock goat first before you lab

[frosty cipher]

I've never done statue grinding EVER in my entire playthrough (account 4500 lvl btw)

[vague saddle]

goat?

[opaque nymph]

yeah,, that's why..

[left kindle]

Ignore lab jail for now you have to do divinity jail first

[frosty cipher]

And I do not know how to manage my statues due to having the possibility to onyx them

[opaque nymph]

You rushed way too quick, my guy
take it slow and do earlier World stuffs first, before rushing into W7

[simple wadi]

If you're lab grinding with Goharut, keep them in lab until level 40 div.
If you're lab grinding for the jewels, you keep them in lab until your total level across all chrs is 2100.
If you're lab grinding for AC, keep them in there until the AC's lab level is 400+

[vague saddle]

ah you mean Goharut? I mean I currently have one dude in divinity altar but I guess I can put them all in for a bit

[left kindle]

That's still baby account.

You have to go back to the basics and work on your foundation.

You've skipped everything that is meant to buff your account and finally feeling the effects of it.

[clear fog]

anyone know how to "farm" for pristine charms?

[frosty cipher]

FYI

only 3 onyx statues so far

[left kindle]

Yeah this is terrible

[vague saddle]

I'll just put all chartacters in divinity until I unlock goat and then I will lab jail for a while

and then I will convince someone to give me a king doot

[left kindle]

Try to get all your characters to an ok divinity level, but also try to get EXP bonuses before you commit too hard.

[verbal acorn]

Good Luck

[vague saddle]

btw, is there a best style for divinity? I asssume chakra low level right?

[left kindle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity EXP @vague saddle

[young mango]

Okie

Equinox challenge rn is mostly time locked so cant rush it

Maybe the ladles one and vman lucky lad

[frosty cipher]

God this looks terrible

I do not know how to get these since these are event ones

[left kindle]

You get them from the event (shocker)

[young mango]

Open gifts

[verbal acorn]

how convenient that there is an event At This Moment

right Now

[opaque nymph]

holup... why's your spelunker lab node not active?
it's free 1.5x of all active jewels

[clear fog]

is there a way to "farm" pristine charms?

[simple wadi]

Spelunker lab node?

[left kindle]

just keep pushing sneaking you'll get them eventually

[clear fog]

pfff damn alr

[vague saddle]

Okay I can do approxamility 2 or 3 of those lol

[clear fog]

pls tell me it gets better with higher mastery

[simple wadi]

Oh, lol, was thinking the W7 skill

[frosty cipher]

I think this will take quite literally ages

[left kindle]

What's your drop rate

[frosty cipher]

that's on DK whose not perfect

[verbal acorn]

have you looked into every source of crystal spawn chance and drop rate you have?

[young mango]

Which

[verbal acorn]

Yikes. Work on those cards first

[opaque nymph]

you might want to grind your geenie a little bit...

[verbal acorn]

Ok you're going into statues way too early

[cursive crypt]

which is better to have the arcanist crown or windwalker hood?

[lucid sentinel]

arcanist crown cuz AC is hard

[frosty cipher]

Okay what do I need to grind before having to grind a grind

[simple wadi]

Yeah I generally don't recommend statue farming until at least 25x DR

[opaque nymph]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[left kindle]

1. Get at minimum 20x DR
2. Max out your genie + poop cards
3. Get at least 3-4 star DR cards
4. Get your DK talent levels up

Then you can consider it

[pseudo steppe]

I did early ones at 10x and it wasnt horrible, but seeing this makes me feel hella dumb

[lucid sentinel]

do u have dice and pop obols?

[verbal acorn]

drop rate can come from a myriad of sources. did you max out your obol pages?

[left kindle]

he for sure does not

His account is practically naked

[frosty cipher]

I've never looked at obols as a reliable source of whatever

[verbal acorn]

heres how reliable they can be

[simple wadi]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Drop_Rate

[opaque nymph]

They give a good amount of DR

[verbal acorn]

farm gigafrogs on es for pop obols

and farm crystal crabs at tysons for dice obols

[left kindle]

I get 3.29x DR from Obols before multi

[verbal acorn]

though maybe up your crystal spawn chance first, through the crystallin stamp for example

[frosty cipher]

Silver ones, yeah

[young mango]

Okie done it

[pseudo steppe]

How so high? o: mines 250 with a full set

[vague saddle]

Well this is gonna take a while

[clear fog]

farming statues? atleast get like 20DR or more and its still going to take a long time lol

[opaque nymph]

Work on your W1 W2 W3 first, my guy
you need a heck ton of work there

[pseudo steppe]

Oh actually I need better pop obols

[verbal acorn]

ey xander do i replace the kruk obols with dice obols

[pseudo steppe]

Realised I had a couple bronze pops, but the mega dice obols look so handsome there too man

[frosty cipher]

This looks like absolutely fucking terrible

[left kindle]

There's no world in which stats% > DR is a reasonable trade

[verbal acorn]

Work on that then!

[cursive crypt]

i see thx

[verbal acorn]

maybe in World 12

i have them in storage anyway

[simple wadi]

Ey Vookarl, replace your Kruk obols with Emperor obols l

[opaque nymph]

yeah.. you pushed way too early into w6

[verbal acorn]

emperor bullies me for my lunch money i cant do that

[opaque nymph]

Kruk is still better for AFK skilling tho, no? 🤔

[verbal acorn]

actually i dont bully him hard enough

[frosty cipher]

Who drops POP obols constantly again?

[left kindle]

Literally go back in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ and #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 then look at the pins.

There is useful stuff in there that you are missing

[verbal acorn]

Just One Drop.. Please...

[opaque nymph]

giga frog

[verbal acorn]

gigafrogs

[left kindle]

There is no shame in it

[pseudo steppe]

What kindsa obol sets do I want outside of droprate? Thats something I still need to sort out, been tempted to just run dr on everything to make life easier

[left kindle]

These are my sets.
They are very minor differences

[pseudo steppe]

You can get away with a droprate set on everyone? never need anything else??

Ooo

[left kindle]

It's a bit minmaxy, most people dont bother

[pseudo steppe]

Construction set seems hella nice actually, same with trapping

[pseudo steppe]

Its not something Imma do yet, got a lot of other more important things to fix up than random obols for random characters in hole, but its real helpful for future reference

[young mango]

Could u tell me which bubble to work on

[left kindle]

All of them

[young mango]

Good answer

Which one to prioritize

[dire cedar]

are there actual odds for finding the funky hat in the sneaking tower?

[tall kelp]

it's g-mas event already?? we just finished cropfall lol, that's so epic

[pseudo steppe]

Autoreview might prove really helpful to figure priority

Itll at least nudge you in the right direction to be boosting your prints

[severe chasm]

what should i spend the rest of my rank points on, or should i save them for rank 2k? i'm rank 1793 atm

[left kindle]

I have no idea what I'm doing LMAO.

There's probably a few guides floating around

rank 2000 is OG which is nice

[opaque nymph]

this is the one i took from Nocturne Gaming if you want to use it as reference
Or you can watch the video yourself, if you prefer

A quite old one tho

[verbal acorn]

a completely maxed land rank database is hard to compare with though

[young mango]

Ok

[left kindle]

Is there no land rank for speed?

[opaque nymph]

no, legumulyte only

[simple wadi]

If you still need to evo plants, put them primarily into plant evo. If you're done with plants, put them into land rank exp and farming exp.

[verbal acorn]

i need a boatload of crop evo.. maybe i should reset my crops

whats the main way to farm magic beans

[left kindle]

Resets

[simple wadi]

Get a lot of your highest crop.

[severe chasm]

updated for now. not gonna do anymore for a bit b/c funny number

[simple wadi]

Careful about "Amount of crop" bonuses because crop value maxes at 10k

[lucid sentinel]

yea i gotta respec and take a bunch out of crop value cuz im at 1.2m rn

didnt know it maxed at 10k

[severe chasm]

good to know, thanks. i'm at 119 atm so i've got a lil while to go

[left kindle]

Should I exalt vendor stamp

[left kindle]

Damn I didnt know it goes that insane

[opaque nymph]

Really?? didnt know either

[simple wadi]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[left kindle]

Is there a specific strat to get 777 achievement

[severe chasm]

i got a bit to go

[verbal acorn]

okay i'm a bit early for that

perhaps i should have done more resets earlier. i think i have 3k magic beans total

[glad isle]

[severe chasm]

i have no idea how many mine are worth/how many i've spent. i neglected magic beans for a while

[verbal acorn]

the Power of forgetting your crops

[vague saddle]

Should I always go for the 100% success thing in divinity?

[glad isle]

What rn

[lime storm]

[glad isle]

These medals made my crop buggy

[simple wadi]

It doesn't have to be the two types of plants I chose. If you have fewer land plots, then use a different type of seed. Point is to knock out an entire plant type immediately after a reset.

[glad isle]

Can't claim on one side

[left kindle]

This single achievement has caused me to hate farming

[glad isle]

Why so hard

It's just a achievement

[left kindle]

I don't want to be unable to complete it

[unreal lion]

If it says 0% chance for new mutation, is it rounded to 1? Is it fr 0

[simple wadi]

From what I remember, Lava changed it so it just needs to have 777 +/- 1 at the end of the number. So if you get 89,777 beans you'll get the achievement. You don't need to hold yourself back on farming for fear of locking yourself out of the achievement.

[unreal lion]

In gaming

[left kindle]

oh really? That's huge, I could just trade in and go ham then?

[verbal acorn]

mkay. what do i invest my newfound magic bean fortune on

[simple wadi]

If it's less than 0.01% chance it'll round down to 0% visually, but it's not actually 0%

[unreal lion]

Because of diminishing returns, is it more worth it to save until its a reasonable % or jus use after each plant?

[muted herald]

is abomination slaying really sitting for 20 min every few maps, or am I doing smth wrong? :/
Am midway w3

[simple wadi]

Pretty much all of them relatively equally is what I did.

[left kindle]

Chat he thinks 20 minutes is long

[simple wadi]

Spam it hard. Quantity > Quality

[muted herald]

how do you "recover" after trading them in? Takes a few seed iterations until I have fast farming again

[unreal lion]

So use per plant instead of saving?

[simple wadi]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[left kindle]

ok so after a reset, it's gonna take me literally 20 minutes before I can harvest a single crop

[muted herald]

boring gameplay, if it requires active play, I shouldnt just have to sit for 20 min

[left kindle]

It doesnt require active play anymore tbh

[simple wadi]

Should have read the guide I've linked twice now first 😛

[frosty cipher]

okay, uh...

[simple wadi]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[frosty cipher]

I kinda started setting this up

sigh

[pseudo steppe]

Just need some dice now

[frosty cipher]

That's on another character

[severe chasm]

I feel like this should be pinned at this point. It's insanely helpful

[left kindle]

yeah you grow them before resetting?
It still wouldve taken me a few minutes to grow my crops even 1 cycle

[simple wadi]

That didn't take you long. Looking good =3
Note that you can reroll your obols to give them +1 of their misc bonus, in this case drop rate.

[simple wadi]

Better than 20 minutes, lol.

[sly cedar]

bruhhh why the f did lava make WW afk items not clickable as a stack but DB usable as a stack? I just used 1200 hours of bones on 1 kind of bone unintentionally and screwed my DB progress by a long ass time now

[left kindle]

What % do you have on nutritious soil?

[sly cedar]

f it ive been on the fence about how pointless of a timesink idleon is maybe its time i stop playing for a while

cya gamers

[left kindle]

bye

[frosty cipher]

Who drops dice obols?

[simple wadi]

It's Speed GMO from the night market that you cheese with my reset trick.

[dire cedar]

whats the reset trick?

[frosty cipher]

I remember getting a huge amount but I can't remember where

[near cosmos]

W2 crystals

[left kindle]

yeah but my speed GMO is too low level for it to have a massive impact.
Now I got my first big reset, once I get a few crops I'll have reasonable growth rates I think

[warm yew]

who do i link kattlekruk to?

[dire cedar]

sandy pots with crystal farm dk

[simple wadi]

Pretty sure you already know it.
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[warm yew]

sand castle?

[dire cedar]

lol you'd be suprised at how dumb i can get

[simple wadi]

Generally an ES so they can still benefit from Arctis/Goharut

[warm yew]

which is better is my question*

[warm yew]

neat, thanks

[warm yew]

so i have doot

so i dont really look at that stuff

[dire cedar]

oh my bad, wrong picture xD but i got my dice obols at sandy pots with dk cvrystal farm

[warm yew]

does it matter who i link kruk too?

cool cool, thanks

[dire cedar]

i dont think so lol just be sure to have 1 person linked to cat god and 1 linked to kattle kruk and you should be good

[simple wadi]

That's the old one btw.

[sturdy shell]

Sorry, it probably doesn't work properly anymore due to Idleon Toolbox updating with new sources of dr

[trim spade]

Can someone explain why I dont get any bubble upgrade from kattlekruk? I have a character linked to him and its been 3 days and nothing changed

[dire cedar]

thanks big daddy

[runic cedar]

Time for a second DB and a little waiting

[spark rock]

guy im lv 477 and my orb of rememberance only last 99 second long am i cooked?

do i need to get more talent point bcz i think im kinda stuck at late game stage

[devout harbor]

You get the lvls but no daily pop up

It's weird ik

[dusk knoll]

how does this works do i just need to wish everyday to get riptide or do i need to spend gems(275) ?

[trim spade]

No like I took a ss of the bubbles levels before the daily reset and after it I didnt get any levels on them

[turbid comet]

sry if its a dumb question new to master classes. is it possible to get your 'other' form equally as powerful as you are out of form?

[left kindle]

Wish every day so your pity goes up then spend your gems when your pity is high

[devout harbor]

Mmm weird

[dire cedar]

yo mirai i got my guys at m4 base floor getting the hats, trying to get funky hat, havent broke through any floors on m4 yet. my question is how fkin rare is the funky hat? cuz ive been preety diligent in scrapping straw hats but i havent seen a whiff of a funky hat yet. are the odds really this depressing?

[dusk knoll]

ok so wishing is only increasing a chance to get riptide on a draw right i wont get anything for free here ? 😄

[trim spade]

I had like lvl 325 on str 3 days ago and its still the same

[frosty cipher]

How do y'all even get 20DR

[spring dawn]

how i can beat w6 colloseum with siege breaker, i feel like im lacking of aoe. Im oneshotting everything. Is there something that would help?\

[left kindle]

I think you can pull one for free, you just are limited by the daily reset

[spark rock]

im stuck at 12x so good luck matexd

[devout harbor]

For me work and i have doot maybe thats a reason

[pseudo steppe]

Do the candles get consumed on use? One of them says they work post christmas event but I swear I didnt use it up on use either

[dire cedar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CBIFVMjxQssmac4G0RQhScOcyz8POtx2h9cY1mutk5g/edit?gid=629968057#gid=629968057 this might not help you too much currently but its always good to have

[dusk knoll]

what does riptide give ? so this is pretty much a draw that cost 275 crystals and can be drawn multiple times right ? wishing will increse chances to get better draws ? is there are info on the pool ?

[left kindle]

this is without my DR gear

[dire cedar]

bruh

[scenic magnet]

w7 has a thing called super talents that literally gives x20 dr later on lmao

[verbal acorn]

dr builds up over time

[pseudo steppe]

The key to dr is swiping

[verbal acorn]

i havent Swiped at all.. i'm at Three Digits.. all in due time

[pseudo steppe]

Ive seen a lot of complaining about p2w droprate, but this honestly is really nice to know

[maiden yoke]

No worries makes sense

[verbal acorn]

the complaining is valid but you can still get places in f2p

[left kindle]

maybe if you swipe you'll hit 4 digits 😛

[verbal acorn]

I'm never swiping Xander "LavaFlameInDisguise" Mercury

[left kindle]

LOL

No autoloot?

[pseudo steppe]

Ofc, Im getting there slowly, albeit I did swipe a bundle more in support of a game I play a hell of a lot than anything, nothing dr or left behinds related thougu

[verbal acorn]

ive sifted through the #trade-discussion rough and found a pig diamond

[scenic magnet]

Grinding for bigger nuggets can be really slow lmao

[pseudo steppe]

Autoloots free now right?

[spark rock]

the sailing to get artifac for me to up my talent point are so slow

im gonna die trying ngl

[pseudo steppe]

I made a fresh account on steam just to mess about and it had autoloot?

[left kindle]

uh, no? There's a pet that gives it tho if you got that

[sturdy shell]

I promise I'll update the DR sheet eventually 😭 there's just so many new sources and calcs to do

[left kindle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=drop rate

[verbal acorn]

like notably the things that give direct drop rate multi

[pseudo steppe]

Oh wha, nah, my fresh account had no pets or spends but had autoloot, I legit went to look to buy it

[dusk knoll]

so its limited to W7 doest look like very good campanion ?

[spring dawn]

how i can beat w6 colloseum with siege breaker, i feel like im lacking of aoe. Im oneshotting everything. Is there something that would help?

[sturdy shell]

this doesn't have everything

[simple wadi]

I just reference the wiki.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Drop_Rate

[verbal acorn]

its a very good companion once you do unlock w7

[left kindle]

30% to spelunking is pretty good
And a grade 4 trophy slot is massive

[sturdy shell]

Wiki is also missing some stuff

[verbal acorn]

unironically i would be progressing so hard if i were to hit that nine darter

[nocturne patrol]

someone can link sheet for exalt stamp pls uwu

[pseudo steppe]

If I was gonna swipe one bundle, which bundle do you reckons most worth the swipe?

[verbal acorn]

unfortunately i'm terrible at darts

[verbal acorn]

this doesnt sound like a hypothetical

though probably one of the numerous drop rate multi bundles

[pseudo steppe]

Its half hypothetical

[left kindle]

There's a tier list

[verbal acorn]

im never nine darting

i can do stuff like a 5-streak (then a miss) then a 3 streak

[simple wadi]

I did 8 in a row once and choked. Gotten to 7 a couple of times.

[raw comet]

did Lava change the mana cost scaling in summoning? my slimes cost a lot more than they did a week ago

[left kindle]

#1350718435939713146 message

Tho this is getting very old with no sign of a new thread being created anytime soon.

The new pet packs are pretty good tho as usual

[trim spade]

Did the daily dig get reseted?

[raw comet]

no

[left kindle]

These event boxes give a crazy amount of gems

[raw comet]

iirc most event boxes are set up to give significantly more for the first 150(?)

unsure about the number

[verbal acorn]

vault's empty. Whoops

[raw comet]

oof

[verbal acorn]

vault's full. Yay

[cunning wind]

how to increase

[dire cedar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KOfrmDPKd7brbkh_Dt2WRvLeA_oxX2EZDpkxP5fKxt0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 in case you needed it

[cunning wind]

is there one for gaming

[dire cedar]

increase what part?

[cunning wind]

total bit multi

[dire cedar]

oh im not too sure

[opaque nymph]

Snail, Squirrel, Palette
from what i can think on top of my head

[nocturne patrol]

rip

[left kindle]

3/4, damn

[wraith badge]

Is there a more up to date version of this?

[cunning wind]

is there like a sheet for gaming

[opaque nymph]

yes, the guide should have one updated version
up to end of W5

[wraith badge]

Ok, thanks, i'll check it out

[opaque nymph]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Gaming

searching "multi" should give you plenty of sources

[verbal acorn]

Stop loving me

[verbal acorn]

alright i'm dead whats the priority here

in terms of bonuses what should i pick first

[dire cedar]

oh i gotcha 1 sec

Bravery:
Bravery Multi -> Monument AFK -> Bell Ring -> Villager EXP -> Mining-> Gaming/Cooking -> Bucket -> rest (Gaming/Cooking/Bucket depending on your need)
Justice:
Justice Multi -> Monument AFK -> Lamp Wishes -> Villager EXP -> Class EXP -> Summoning/Catching -> Harp -> Rest
Wisdom:
Wisdom Multi -> Monument AFK -> Droprate -> Chopping -> Rupie/CropEvo/Villager exp -> Jade -> Gambit -> Rest

[verbal acorn]

Nice.

[dire cedar]

if you see an actual opal grab that over everything since they get rarer and rarer, dont ever grab opal chance though thats dogshit

[opaque nymph]

Do you think Bell ring is still viable for these newer patches?

[verbal acorn]

Score..

[dire cedar]

i have no clue lol im just giving people the info i use when im doing my stuff xD. were there some changes to the bell or something?

[sharp swallow]

How much damage should I have (im at leeks w6)

[left kindle]

enough for decent multikill

[opaque nymph]

No, they're just the same, am just thinking gaming / cooking sound better, due to the recent skills requirement

like cooking having max lv at 150, and gaming needing a heck ton of bits multi

[verbal acorn]

alright that was quite a run

[lucid sentinel]

grats

[verbal acorn]

now to leave this thing rotting for a few more weeks

[scarlet osprey]

Whoah

[sleek dagger]

thats more bonuses than all my monuments combined

[verbal acorn]

that was a 63.5x reward multi i believe

[sleek dagger]

how many chests was that?

[verbal acorn]

30

[frosty cipher]

Okay, I just feel like my head is about to explode from all the info @left kindle

[left kindle]

sup

[frosty cipher]

About drop rate

[verbal acorn]

expect your head to explode many times

[frosty cipher]

Okay, so, first of all, obols

balls

[verbal acorn]

It's getting there

[frosty cipher]

Then I need to get some more balls, right

[verbal acorn]

o-bolls yeah

[frosty cipher]

Then what

[sleek dagger]

family should be done first imo, all characters will benefit, not just one (at least thats what i did when farming obols)

[frosty cipher]

actually, right

[simple wadi]

Most of us walk around looking like the girl from Corpse Party

[verbal acorn]

what repeated exposure to idleon does to a person

[left kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/719797579638112340/1356812580051619961/200_burger.gif

[frosty cipher]

Then I need to do stamps

[deft vale]

Anyone know where daily dig is?

[sleek dagger]

yesterday i put half of my guys on bricks to push this one as far as i can, currently 170 or so and i still need a lot more

[sleek dagger]

rest is on screws bc i need to get some bubbles to atom range

[wanton needle]

is there a tier list of what to prisma / make exalted first?

[spring dawn]

how i can beat w6 colloseum with siege breaker, i feel like im lacking of aoe. Im oneshotting everything. Is there something that would help? Its for quest completion

[normal lagoon]

This is like, actually literally empty, right? Future content I assume?

[sleek dagger]

btw you can check out ie autoreview, good tool if you dont know what to focus on next

[normal lagoon]

Don't use SB 😔 I wasted the tickets as well.

[verbal acorn]

yeah its empty and it unlocks the huge bonus of box9

[spring dawn]

but i think it should be possible

[normal lagoon]

LOL nice

Yeah I JUST got to Red Qs so I didn't want to waste 9.9, ty

[sleek dagger]

better use ac hes insane in colos 5 and 6

[normal lagoon]

Yes, it's possible, since I did it on my SB, but BARELY had enough time.

[spring dawn]

i just need quest completion

[normal lagoon]

DB was a joke due to verticality; AC is always a great choice for Colo; DK isn't bad if you catch the boomerang every time

[normal lagoon]

Do the quest on another character. SB is very difficult to clear.

Lord help you if you're playing on mobile.

[spring dawn]

ayay okay, thank you

[sleek dagger]

tbh id rather do the quest on ac from the start than try with sb

or dk

[normal lagoon]

(or DB if you enjoy DB, but yeah AC is the recommended go-to)

[ocean narwhal]

How to increase monument Sword damage?

[faint anchor]

Is there a quick way to link everybody to a god

[normal lagoon]

• AFK on it
• Measurer has a measure for it
• Student can bring up its minimum damage

[faint anchor]

Finally got my polar bear and now I need everyone to move over to that

[normal lagoon]

If you by chance have The Hole and Cosmo (Villager 3) you can just Pocket Div Arctis, but besides Pocket Div, no, you gotta link one at a time (you can quick-unlink at least).

[ocean narwhal]

ty

[verbal acorn]

student can bring up minimum damage up to 32%, dont waste study time on it past that

[normal lagoon]

PS: there's probably more I'm not thinking of (like first throw on the last sword and oneshotting with that), those are just the ones I know

[sleek dagger]

• in w7 theres another kind of pocket div once you get to coral kid

[normal lagoon]

Yep, L7 is cap

[faint anchor]

What's a good level to have everybody at in laboratory before using the Divine on them and getting them to do other stuff they have been in lab for about two months I think my highest is 75 my lowest is 21

[normal lagoon]

Oh that's the first benefit right? I have Doot so it's a gold ball bonus for me; I was curious about that thanks

[ocean narwhal]

I already got all the AFK bonus unlocked, but didnt know it keeps rising when more time afk

[normal lagoon]

If you can get to the skull pile methinks.

[humble quail]

for statues like the construction one that drops from cryosnakes, is it better to farm them on ele sorc instead of dk since theyre on the first drop page or still use dk?

[faint anchor]

You mean like multiple characters or like one character reaching that far

[normal lagoon]

@faint anchor Keep in mind a later god (Goharut) will let you Div inside the Lab

[sleek dagger]

so you get gold ball bonus only if you have doot?

[zinc torrent]

ES or candy

[sleek dagger]

if you want to active then yeah, es

[faint anchor]

I did not know that

[normal lagoon]

FTR since no one really answered the question of "why ES?": ES is ideally better at non-Crystal farming, because portal mobs aren't "real mobs", while DK is better at Crystal farming.
So because you're going for loot from the mob directly and not a crystal, ES will yield you better results, unless your ES is horribly lacking compared to your DK.

It was the difference between thousands of hotdogs and tens of thousands of hotdogs for me on Wode Boards last night 😔

[zinc torrent]

What des this mean

[normal lagoon]

2 characters, have fun :3

Welcome to Multi-lock, bitch!

[zinc torrent]

yeah no I dont have the mental sanity nor enough Pyrocinical videos for this

[normal lagoon]

FTR: In W6 the max multilock is 3 and I believe the Skydoggie map is the last one

[zinc torrent]

this level of gate keeping is insane

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-where-is-omni-man-you-should-be-gif-13736089749320751976

[normal lagoon]

I think it used to be 9 characters before W7 came out? Dunno cuz I barely hit W6 as W7 arrived.

[verbal acorn]

It used to be 9! Rejoice!

it went 3 5 7 9

[normal lagoon]

Lol jinx

[normal lagoon]

Skydoggie is the last multilock map right?

[verbal acorn]

yep

[normal lagoon]

Okay I at least have THAT correct

[zinc torrent]

I got this fr

[sleek dagger]

so who should you farm hot dogs on? bc they are tricky, they drop from the first page and from crystals as well so ive been wondering lately

[normal lagoon]

Meanwhile me currently suffering on Litterfish

[verbal acorn]

w7 has a few branching paths

[normal lagoon]

They do NOT drop from Crystals anymore, it has been nerfed!

[verbal acorn]

and the locks are terrible there because of the multikill embargo

[sleek dagger]

ohh ty didnt know that

[normal lagoon]

1/50 on Wode Boards and 1/100 on Gigafrogs.
Do ES for them (since it's a non-crystal drop) and on Gigafrogs if you also need your POP obols still, then swap to Wode when you don't.

[normal lagoon]

Yeah it sucks; nerfed as of W7 and it REALLY sucks 😭

Was such a PITA just to get to 10k Golden Peanuts, I cannot imagine doing 100k/1m

Definitely way better as ES though

[verbal acorn]

do they just drop every kill if you have 50 dr

[normal lagoon]

They should yeah

[verbal acorn]

Go my AC kill them all

[normal lagoon]

I'm not the most knowledgeable person on DR but AFAIK, you just replace the "1" with your DR

[sleek dagger]

you only need 3 chars now? man, why didnt i wait a while...

[verbal acorn]

because waiting is Lame

[normal lagoon]

I believe like 200 DR would mean you get 4 hot dogs 100% of the time (before Multikill?) [assuming Wode Board's 1/50]

[normal lagoon]

TECHNICALLY, you only need Lock -1

[sleek dagger]

but i could be doing something better with all my chars, like pushing justive/bravery (didnt have wisdom at that time yet)

[dire cedar]

this is probably a very stupid question, but for the lvl 1000 bonus does that apply to even spelunking? cuz if it does i got like 5 skills i should get to lvl 1k xD that'd be 125% more skill xp for my boys at spelunking

[sleek dagger]

yeah bc vman

[verbal acorn]

you'd have only pushed portals if you were real ready for them anyway

[normal lagoon]

Keep in mind that VMan's Void Run sets their map progress to be all maps you have unlocked on other--- yeah

If you unlock that portal on one character, Void Run WILL unlock it on VMan too (as in Lock -1, not "you have access to the next map")

[gray thicket]

Is this hat worth it?

[normal lagoon]

So to get through W6, you only need 2 characters +Vman

[sleek dagger]

i spent maybe 2 weeks on pushing w6 when i could just spend some candies later

[normal lagoon]

Every hat is worth a 1.01x mult for all the hats, so...

[gray thicket]

Oh, is that how it works, thank you

[normal lagoon]

Literally every hat is "worth" in some capacity

[zinc torrent]

Once you unlock hat in sneaking it can become drop (if you have the upgrade from shop.) Forget exactly what that one does, but the later w6 ones are decent.

[normal lagoon]

(I have an extra 10% from the event)

[sleek dagger]

ive been trying to open the game for the past idk how long maybe 30mins and im so easily distracted talking here lol

[dire cedar]

oof you got 1 more hat than me 🙁 im at 41/79

[normal lagoon]

and I've only been here for like 10 weeks too 😆

[dire cedar]

lmao thats why i was cryin

[dire cedar]

good shit though

[normal lagoon]

Don't feel too bad, my wallet's probably way lighter than yours 😔

[verbal acorn]

how many swipes

[normal lagoon]

God fuck litterfish I hate you

[dire cedar]

unless you're in debt you got more money than me lol

[storm iron]

How? I've been playing for years and I have 54

[normal lagoon]

Definitely not in debt at least or I wouldn't be whaling as hard 😆

[zinc torrent]

Wait til you see the last map requirements

[normal lagoon]

Uh... weed, shopping addiction, and no self control 😔

[normal lagoon]

No no no no no no let me ouuuuuut

[dire cedar]

what was that quest that gives stacked rice as a reward?

[normal lagoon]

@zinc torrent PLEASE tell me there's at least something cool on the post-Litterfish map (I already got Demonflesh for Meritocracy)

[latent helm]

!ac

[obtuse orbit]

How to get AFK Arcane Cultist:

Step 1) Go on your Arcane Cultist and turn on Arcanist Form.
Step 2) Kill things for a while. The faster your kills, the quicker you'll get it done, but go do murder.
Step 3) After collecting 1000 fragments, hold click on them. Boom! You've unlocked afk tachyons!
Step 4+) When you afk on your AC, you'll receive 1 Arcane Rock for every hour your afk session is. Afk for 2h40m? That's 2 Arcane Rocks.

Notes:

• If you have 2 AC's, you only need to do this once.
• To get Arcane Rocks, you must be afk'ing combat. It doesn't matter whether you're in Arcanist Form or not. And no, no candy.
• When using Arcane Rocks, they are based off your current AFK Info display. Kill some mobs for a bit first, then consume the item just as you would a candy.

[zinc torrent]

There is something cool, plus a nice little 🔒

[faint spade]

It feels like I've been stuck on Voodoo fish for a month, man

[snow escarp]

is there priority upgrade order

[storm iron]

So you're me? I like you already

[runic minnow]

why is nobisect blessing not giving my divinity skill efficiency?

[normal lagoon]

PFFFfff if you say so 😆

[normal lagoon]

Are you sure he's not? Blessings are always active and passive, no link/pocket div requirement

[runic minnow]

in afk info it says 1 eff

[normal lagoon]

For what specifically?

[normal lagoon]

I at least will have it done in ~7h on my DB

[runic minnow]

divinity itself

[normal lagoon]

Okay yeah, so "+All Skill Eff" doesn't affect most skills W4+

[storm iron]

It always does, check your skill info tab in inventory

[normal lagoon]

Actually no, I think it's always all W4+ skills

[runic minnow]

youre telling me ALL doesnt mean ALL?

[normal lagoon]

Essentially!

I know Lab, Cooking, and Divinity especially

[zinc torrent]

I hope for your sake you're pushing that map on at least 5 characters

[normal lagoon]

Technically I was, but it was like 400~600k/h so I gave up on that and pivoted them all to GMush for the 100b Equinox cloud instead.

I'm NOT Expecting to go much further, if at all

[dire cedar]

welp time for me to do my daily boss kills, wish me luck 🙁

[normal lagoon]

I was pushing without even having Magma+ sets yet. I'm now trying to push Godshard lol

[storm iron]

Also divinity doesn't rely on or even have efficiency, it's all just div points and exp %

[feral maple]

3 digits

[normal lagoon]

(Cooking and Lab have gear/BB and Bubo [respectively] talents to push them)

[runic minnow]

it says 100% at 1k efficiency

[normal lagoon]

Yes, but there's nothing that increases Div Efficiency

[runic minnow]

devs be doing a little trolling

[normal lagoon]

De__v__ be trolling because he's a massive meme dorklord (said with love ❤️)

[dire cedar]

lava is a solo dev btw

[storm iron]

There is no efficiency counter in the skills info tab, it says it in afk info cause lava made the afk info for all stuff nearly the same

[versed hull]

What are the ways to gain more villager exp?

[dire cedar]

monument

[versed hull]

No way that's it

[normal lagoon]

Opals. 😆
Gem Shop (Oddities), Legend Points, Monuments, Measurer has at least 2 measures for Villager EXP... what else...

Oh, Samurai Guardian pet is MASSIVE for villager EXP. 3x mult AND 25 Opals

[dire cedar]

theres more ways im just busy rn and dont remember any off the top of my head lol

[normal lagoon]

especially after I just listed so many! 🙂

[runic minnow]

anyone else get to w5 before discovering equanox was a thing?

[storm iron]

There is many more ways, but listing them all is hard since most doesn't even remember half of them

[normal lagoon]

I'm so far behind 😭

[versed hull]

Thanks

[storm iron]

Technically yes but that's because it wasn't a thing

[dire cedar]

lol be sure to try and get those done. theres a lot of good benifts for it, also rift exists btw. in case you missed that too

[normal lagoon]

Biggest thing by far would be getting the Samurai pet from Fallen Spirits (currently out of rotation). Best of luck in #pet-trades #trade-discussion!
In-game biggest things would be Gem Shop (2x for one villager of choice per purchase) or Legend Points in W7 (up to 4x EXP for all villagers 3 points)

[runic minnow]

will do ES on the way

[sleek dagger]

im currently god rank 1, should i invest points in coral kid upgrades or try to push god ranks a bit?

[runic minnow]

when do pet rotations happen?

[dire cedar]

whenever daddy lava feels like it lol

[fresh zephyr]

does anyone know how accurate this is? Only ever seen my nugget get to 245m

[simple wadi]

About once a year.

[runic minnow]

so find a friend with extra pets got it

[normal lagoon]

Or beg in #pet-trades/#trade-discussion if you're F2P

[sleek dagger]

where is this? toolbox or efficiency?

[zinc torrent]

DB and AC both have villager exp multis that aren't TOO hard to reach (unless you're under 400 talent cap for AC)

[fresh zephyr]

efficiency

[normal lagoon]

I have barely touched MCs so I didn't know about those

[runic minnow]

im mostly f2p. ill buy some bundles and autoloot but im not spending 100 on pet gambling

[normal lagoon]

Oh doesn't DB also have opals too?

[storm iron]

Both have a way to see it

[fresh zephyr]

I figure the odds are stupid high, but I just wanted to make sure I wasnt going crazy lol

[zinc torrent]

All MCs have opals, yeah

[runic minnow]

should i finish my vman before attempting to drop my chizor blankies or should i just be fine with 7x drop rarity?

[summer tendon]

If i use golden clock do i get hole wishes?

[normal lagoon]

Btw I got summoning doublers from the event before getting C14; is there an image or tier list of choices? I don't even know what these things do, but I assume it's similar to Prisma/Exalt Stamps

[frosty cipher]

Holy shit what I've found in my stash

[simple wadi]

#1303761365273415700 message

[zinc torrent]

Can't use Gwatches during events

[frosty cipher]

@left kindle W?

[summer tendon]

Noo i forgot i wanted to reset my hole

[left kindle]

Keychains barely matter

[normal lagoon]

About to get C14 in a day or so btw thanks again for all the help, Mirai.

[sleek dagger]

when should i start getting stacks for these bonuses? ive been collecting beans every time it went over 200 for some time and idk its probably not optimal strat

[dense hornet]

guys if i pick 2 same gods will my bonus double? the hole upgrade

AH

[normal lagoon]

What the fuck this is disgusting

Can a card be double-jeweled?

[still apex]

No. It's capped at 60 or 80

[dire cedar]

nope pocket divinity lets you link to more than one god at a time, bonuses dont stack though if you picked for example 2 arctis's on pocket div, or you are actually linked to arctis and have arctis pocket div linked as well

[normal lagoon]

God dammit, why does thje guide tell me to drop a doubler on it then? 😭

[still apex]

That was before summoning bosses

[simple wadi]

Why are you only going to 200 instead of 1k for Speed GMO?

[sleek dagger]

i meant bean trades, i check how many i can get, i see 200+, ok thats enough, then i trade

[simple wadi]

It's not 177%, meaning a guaranteed chance. I believe the base chance is only 10%, making it now 27.7% chance.

[sleek dagger]

and then i invest in og + the rest goes to other upgrades

[normal lagoon]

Oh, gotcha okay

[simple wadi]

Yeah that's definitely not optimal. You're not pushing your plants far enough before a reset.

[normal lagoon]

Also is there anything good in W7 essences? I don't yet have it but was just curious if I should maybe save some

[still apex]

I have never heard that's how it worked.

[simple wadi]

You can reset summoning doublers in the hole.

[still apex]

Cloudsave?

[sleek dagger]

so i should farm 1k of everything and then trade?

[dire cedar]

leave the map and come back, if that doesnt work,forfeit the quest and grab it again

[normal lagoon]

I know I can but saving wishes would be more ideal
(also why can we reset these but not Exalted Stamps/Prisma Bubbles? 😭)

[still apex]

If nothing else works, you might need to level div 1 more time

[simple wadi]

I can't tell if you're telling me that I'm wrong. But It's definitely not making it a guaranteed chance for a jeweled variant.

[still apex]

I never had a definitive answer, just recycling what I've always heard

Oh, you didn't see my other message. I said it was capped at 60 or 80.

[lethal scaffold]

Why cant i get any? Is it chance or does it have a req

[simple wadi]

Just rare.

I always have to double take with you, Psyduck, because there's an Idleon veteran with the same name on the server.

[dire cedar]

anybody know where the dig spot for today is

[lethal scaffold]

Yes @spring spruce is a wonderful duck

[feral maple]

wait for lava

[dire cedar]

my buddy was talking to me and said it hadnt reset yet lmao im out here worrying about dig spot that havent even been made yet

[spice basalt]

Can someone explain what the max level for hustle for Bubba is in the guide? I thought the charisma levels were infinite?

[simple wadi]

Well finished using my AC's crystals. Those Woodlins will be the death of me, I swear.

[zinc torrent]

I have a couple left to use 💀 maybe if I get good wand drop I can push past mama trolls

[simple wadi]

Yeah I need to get a new wand too. Mine is still from W5

I'm debating on bothering with WW's moons. I can't bring myself to care about the last few upgrades in Nomadic, and I have all the other upgrades.

[tame venture]

yoo guys what master class should i get first?

[zinc torrent]

DB, then WW, then AC

[dire cedar]

i finished my daily boss kills

[tame venture]

damn nice

[zinc torrent]

Yeahhhh, I think I'll do that on the last day. Got my AC where DR helps with prisma drops, but wanna push further in W6 while we have the multi

[feral maple]

sad

[tame venture]

who could anser my question

[dire cedar]

80 gems is kinda dookie lol but im not complaining. its usually between 80 to 105 gems from daily boss kills

[feral maple]

all

[unreal snow]

Where do i get luckier lad recipe

[tame venture]

the first?

[simple wadi]

This is as far as my AC has gotten

[feral maple]

db

[tame venture]

wtf is db

[feral maple]

blood berserker

[simple wadi]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Pay attention when you ask a question.

[tame venture]

ok

[feral maple]

cant read

[dire cedar]

aint no fucking way i just deleted one of my gold charms

i might just go back to bed

[tame venture]

uhh i paid?

[simple wadi]

Clearly not when Swoldier already answered you the first time.

[dire cedar]

was this the missing gold charm? i dont remember what tf it was(im aware its a pristine charm, im asking if that type of charm is what im missing)

[normal lagoon]

That's a Pristine charm, not a gold one

[simple wadi]

That's a pristine, not a gold charm. Maybe you ~should~ go back to bed, lol

[dire cedar]

reread the message i clarified

[normal lagoon]

Lol sorry

[tame venture]

ohh bc of this guy they send it at the same time and i couldnt see it bc swoldier didnt mention me and sorry if thats too much thats my mistake

[normal lagoon]

Yes it's the missing one

[dire cedar]

no reason to be sorry i didnt type the message properly the first time lmao

[normal lagoon]

This floor, 4F

Just get a Meteorite on someone and spam that floor, you'll get it back dw

If I can push M5 with 100% detection, you can get a gold coin back, I have faith.

[simple wadi]

It's okay to admit you deleted it to force yourself to get a higher level one.

[dire cedar]

yeah i can definitely get the charm back, im just pissed cuz i was farming base floor for the funky hat, its literally the last hat i need to get

[normal lagoon]

At least it's not a critical one!

[dire cedar]

i about to get 2 feet taller in my room here in a minute

[normal lagoon]

Like deleting the Stealth one or the Scroll one would royally fuck you

I honestly wish the trash button was somewhere else/we had a place we could individually drop items into a trash can like Obols

[dire cedar]

couldnt find a ceiling fan emote lol

[normal lagoon]

I am SO scared I'm gonna delete an item I don't mean to every time

[normal lagoon]

God damn that's dark 😆

(also you'd break the ceiling fan, don't do it)

[dire cedar]

would be very nice if lava added the locking mechanic thats in the inventory to things like construction and sneaking

[frosty cipher]

Think I can get like at least 11x in midgame

[normal lagoon]

Right????

I also asked to have a lock for CHARACTERS but people shot it down in #player-suggestions

[dire cedar]

ive deleted cogs before i didnt wnt too lmao didnt think id fuck up again and do that shit on sneaking xD

[normal lagoon]

People just HATE options and QoL here. I guess they love Modern-day Pokemon 😔

[dire cedar]

modern day pokemon? i dont think nintendo has innovated on their pokemon games in the last decade at least

[normal lagoon]

(that's my point: People hate options here)

((it's me just sniping at Pokemon/Game Freak, dw about it lol))

[simple wadi]

I've heard Arcaeus was pretty inovative (for Game Freak)

[dire cedar]

digimon is better ill die on that hill

[simple wadi]

I bought Cyber Sleuth during the summer sale on Steam. I should play it.

[normal lagoon]

I've been meaning to get into it, but there's no good consensus on a good game and (one of) the "best" suggestion(s) I watched someone play and man it looked bad.

[dire cedar]

oh lol i havent played any digimon games since i had a ps2 way back in the day, just syaing storywise digimon is infinitely cooler than pokemon. in the proper timeline pokemon wouldve been niche and digimon wouldve dominated

[normal lagoon]

I don't even know the stories of Digimon and I will 10000% agree seeing as Pokemon's best story is when they don't have one (a la Gen 1)

[dire cedar]

quick question though you said the charm i trashed is on the 4th floor right? does that include the base floor, or do i gotta get 3 doors here?

[normal lagoon]

Ghost floor is 1F, so 2 floors up. You're currently on 2F

[feral maple]

or 1st of 2nd quarter

[dire cedar]

bet thanks for the advice imma be getting this god danm charm back

[feral maple]

or u can also say, april

[normal lagoon]

What M are you on, Multi?

jc

[dire cedar]

m4 currently

[normal lagoon]

Twinsies

[simple wadi]

Their best story is "I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was."

[glossy palm]

[normal lagoon]

I unlocked M5, but farming M4 cuz some of these floors still have 100% detection lol

[simple wadi]

Hey Qwaser, how you doin', beautiful?

[glossy palm]

I'm going on vacation

[normal lagoon]

That theme song was so good 👌 Then you watch the anime and you're like "man why did I watch this?"
And then your 4 y/o niece asks you to watch it with her.

[simple wadi]

To?

[glossy palm]

Alberta

[simple wadi]

Skiing?

[glossy palm]

Nah I'm visiting siblings

And probably site seeing

[simple wadi]

Fun. And cold. Hella cold.

[glossy palm]

It's only a 4 hr flight so I'll survive

[dire cedar]

im tryna get these last few stacked rice cakes to get my vman his marbiglass gloves, then after that i honestly dont really know, cuz i got like a lil over 60dr but that surely isnt enough for me to start wanting to farm those 100k dark lanterns for vman's mittens

[glossy palm]

[spare dagger]

is the daily dig location getting posted anywhere?

[simple wadi]

My vacation was going to Texas. My friends want to do it again in two years. We can't decide whether to go to Florida during the fall or a cruise along Alaska during the summer.

[feral maple]

use a knife to cut the plane would u get 6.56K of that plane

[dire cedar]

god danm my guys got 100% detection rate, except for my one guy with the scroll on him, hes got a 19% i think

[reef pier]

How do people have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of capacity for liquids in alchemy?

[feral maple]

ac in w6 colo

[feral maple]

meals and cauldron lv

[normal lagoon]

Liquidvestment 99% (Equinox)

Leave AC on auto overnight, overday, etc

[reef pier]

Oh i see
I havent checked enough meals out yet

[dire cedar]

whats this fker do again? isnt it jade coin gain or something?

[normal lagoon]

Definitely important if you want any level of jade that isn't poop

[reef pier]

I see, i havent gone out of my way for that too😅

[normal lagoon]

But at least it's not critical like the stealth/charm enhancement ones

[normal lagoon]

Would recommend since it's a nice QoL boost. Capping liquids is no longer a bad thing

[dire cedar]

yup sucks cuz i wanna upgrade my dead roses, but since i scrapped that charm like a window licker now the jade im getting from it isnt easy

[sleek dagger]

aight i think ill try getting stacks for farming while also getting day market done, 2 in 1, i just hope it doesnt take too long, should i only get them to 1k at first? and then maybe try more once i have big spd multipliers?

[hardy bone]

go back a mastery and get a new one

[dire cedar]

whats all your charm spots look like? i got all mine to 3 dots aka gold and have been working on getting my people charm spots to the first tier

[dire cedar]

existence is suffering so this is just normal

i must pay for my mistakes

[reef pier]

I see, i will do it sooner rather than later then

[simple wadi]

My rule of thumb was - go until the evo chance for the next plant was under 0.3%, and then let them OG over night.

[normal lagoon]

All characters have their left slot at 1; one character has it at 2 (accident but hey, happy accident)

[sleek dagger]

i want to like farming so much but its been pain for me from the moment i unlocked it lol

[normal lagoon]

and yes I know I have two slots wasted; I had those earlier

Hopefully he adds more gold charms later 🥴

[bleak gazelle]

yo give me some
i made it to woodlins and my damage is rough

i still need to do DB/WW
when does merit change?

[normal lagoon]

Finally, 5th world-trophy soon™

[simple wadi]

Tomorrow

[normal lagoon]

Imagine getting W4 and W5 prior to W3 😆

[bleak gazelle]

like same time that lab changes?

[hardy bone]

should i put my statue farming for onyx and zenith and go work on ac or ww some?

[sleek dagger]

for now i put everything on apples and one glassy plant, once i get 1k apples ill go up 1 tier and so on while upgrading day market, new plant slots will be great and other things too maybe

[dire cedar]

fkin hell i really need to do my master class bullshit before this w7 ballot thing is gone, i truly just hate the masterclasses though 🙁 like the bonuses from them are great, but the bullshit to get to them is not at all enjoyable

[dire cedar]

ill probably start doing my masterclass stuff with my afk things after i get another 100 stacked rice

[feral maple]

3 days left

[hardy bone]

who would you say has better upgrades ww, or ac? cause my db is near the end of grimoire so i dunno if there much else for me to get there rn

[bleak shore]

can i get demented spirit lord recipe from the colosseum

[plucky osprey]

what bonuses are good for sailing captains in midgame?

[simple wadi]

Loot > Speed > Everything else.

[dire cedar]

anything i should hard focus on?

[simple wadi]

Summoning then Merit

[dire cedar]

lol i meant for upgrading to lvl 100 im kinda out of blue balls

[feral maple]

what abt ref spd

[sleek dagger]

do bolaia upgrades (other than bravery) have max lvls?

[simple wadi]

I would get jade to 50 and then focus merit.

[hardy bone]

mirai would you say ww or ac has better upgrades for account progression?

[simple wadi]

Uhhh probably WW.

[feral maple]

inside or outside each mode

[hardy bone]

like the compass or tessaract

[simple wadi]

AC has better upgrades, but you have to be super sweaty to get to them. WW's upgrades are far more realistic to reach.

[sleek dagger]

ok so next question, is there an upgrade so op that i want to lvl up as high as possible and ignore other upgrades or do i lvl up what has lower lvl?

[stray spoke]

does anyone know if theres a spesific way i should be sampling for fishing, i have over 300k efficiency but my bloach sample is like 15 which is crazy low considering i legit catch that with 1 manual catch, im early world 5 so dont have access to everything

[sleek dagger]

currently been focusing on bell after i maxed bravery

[hardy bone]

well i got shards to use for each so its fine my only issue with ac tho is i am kinda stuck on pincermin

[feral maple]

get 400 tent

[tame venture]

guys soo how to get more accuracy bc i have 25k...

[dire cedar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at-y9t5ohYky33nOLoSxHYeyRX-3T91paj-nTSHrB3c/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[bleak shore]

can i get demented spirit lord recipe from the colosseum

[hardy bone]

yea idk if i can yet without omni fury which im working on trying to get with my 0.02% chance ill have to see

[zinc torrent]

WW has lot of good upgrades, as does AC. Just lot of the good AC ones are pretty far in, aside from villager exp and 2x statue/gfood

[stray spoke]

i understand the efficiency stuff, thats not what im asking im just wondering if theres something mechanically i need to do diferent because the sample im getting is stupidyly low for my efficiency

[feral maple]

what abt super talwnt

[dire cedar]

do you have the wrong prayers on or the incorrect talent preset on?

[hardy bone]

let me load up and check that character

[stray spoke]

nope

[tame venture]

Guys how do i get more accuracy?????????????????????.

[stray spoke]

im not saying my sample should be even in the thousands, but this seems just wrong completely

[dire cedar]

this isnt idleon its alchemy

[hardy bone]

nvm i got 400 tent on my ac exactly lol

[echo crag]

fishing sample are a pain at any level of play really

[feral maple]

normal

[stray spoke]

oh alright

so is fishing just super hard to sample for?

fair enough thanks, just wanted to make sure i wasnt doing anything wrong

[echo crag]

yeah, dont expect it to give same value as chopping/mining

[sleek dagger]

catching sucks as well

[simple wadi]

Fishing and catching are both poor to sample for compared to woodcutting and mining.

[echo crag]

at least catching is less annoying to get the actual sample compared to fishing...

[stray spoke]

yeah i guessed it wouldnt be as good, but legit 1% of what my woodcutting and mining ones are seemed so wrong

thanks for letting me know its normal tho

[echo crag]

you sampling i nthe proper fishing spot tho ?

[stray spoke]

yep

with the best lure for it i can use

[dire cedar]

that guide i sent you says what spot and fishing setup to use btw

[zinc torrent]

Legends of Alchemy Cog Clicker

[stray spoke]

ye thanks, i dont think its worth me even bothering at this stage the samples i get are so low nomatter what even if i 10xd my sample rn it wouldnt be worth ill just wait for later on when i have more bonuses to worry about it

[spare dagger]

where does the book for statue metallurgy drop? wiki doesnt show it or 2 other talents from special tab 3

[sleek dagger]

funny, i noticed i have 2 exalted stamps, so i was wondering what to exalt, found out i should exalt the summoning stamp and guess what, i dont even have it yet lol

[echo crag]

vip

[simple wadi]

Statue metallurgy?

[sleek dagger]

same situation happened to me with multitool stamp

[dire cedar]

i hit a red dice went left tilt got absolutely fked over i got 16 balls from it thanks lava

[simple wadi]

Lol why left? You do either no tilt or right tilt.

[dire cedar]

oh my bad meant to say right tilt

[zinc torrent]

Ahhh, finally good wand upgrade

[simple wadi]

Ah well rip

[faint wigeon]

[simple wadi]

Oh wow nice one Swoldier

[dire cedar]

not even sure why thats a good wand but hey congrats on it lol

[feral maple]

next is 90 wp speed 11

[dire cedar]

i stg lava fucked with the arcade or something, cuz almost all my god danm balls have went into bronze or white

[sleek dagger]

oh god sussy gene is awful

[zinc torrent]

Apparently it only goes up to 83WP, anything past 1200% wand quality does nothing

[simple wadi]

Ffs this event is giving me the worst luck ever. I've done 20 cards now and never gotten above candycane.

[echo crag]

all stats on it are high, instead of getting high wp/low ac dmg or low wp/high ac dmg

[zinc torrent]

I know bc W7 just had dude get banned the other day for showing off 90+ WP wand

[dire cedar]

oh yeah mirai was there any reason why you said i should get jade to lvl 50 then focus on merit? after 50 does it kinda scale off or something?

[feral maple]

when u got the above cake u should take ss for #free-gem-contest💎

[spare dagger]

ty, went from level 21 to 146 on it, hopefully it makes statue farming easier

[echo crag]

considering WW weapon cap at 80, 83for AC kinda make sense

[lucid sentinel]

whats wrong with that is there a cap?

[zinc torrent]

It's decent, my cap for +%dmg is in the 100 range, though

[echo crag]

an upgrade, is an upgrade lol

[simple wadi]

Nope. Just told you what I would do. I have no special reason for it other than Jade 50 is easily obtainable and merit is a shitshow for gold balls.

[dire cedar]

lol sounds good, just got it to lvl 50 time to hard focus on merit, whats the % on it when its lvl 100?

[simple wadi]

10%

[dire cedar]

thats fucking depressing

merit is for the w7 ballot bonus right? or am i just fucking stupid

[zinc torrent]

Oh yeah, for sure. Wand drops are diff than WW bows, the +% dmg is multi as well. The 70WP wand with 86% that I just had drop is only 20-30m less damage than this one.

[dire cedar]

probably 100k gold balls for 10% is insane work lava mustve been on a honey pack or something when he designed those numbers

[echo crag]

how high is your wand upgrade at ?

[zinc torrent]

1016%

[dire cedar]

just got a red dice on a gold section ill letcha know how many balls i get from this right tilt

[feral maple]

40

[dire cedar]

fucking 40. i got 40

[feral maple]

lol

[dire cedar]

ITS YOU YOU MOTHERFKER YOURE THE ONE RIGGING MY SHIT

[feral maple]

AAAA

[dire cedar]

has anybody counted how many gold balls it takes to get the merit bonus from lvl 1 to 100?

[gentle linden]

any tips for starting to scale wraith accuracy? my damage is starting to shoot up, but im only getting like 17 acc per upgrade

[frosty cipher]

Which mobs drops these more often

[feral maple]

check IT

[feral maple]

w2 crystal

[dire cedar]

IT always comes in clutch

[feral maple]

IT might be wrong

[dire cedar]

god i hope IT is wrong cuz 203k is some fkin bullshit for 10%

[wide osprey]

how to farm it?

[dire cedar]

take off your weapon and kill the mob barehanded

[feral maple]

not this guy again

[zinc torrent]

The one that is actually multi is in last place, wild

[feral maple]

fr, this is rigged

[dire cedar]

that boxing thing is also in the vault lol if you havent finished doing that you should

[dire cedar]

if the danm thing said multi i guarantee it would win lava just likes to not tell people shit

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, the wording makes it sound like it's additive, butttt it's not

[feral maple]

i really need my faster liquid regen for candyclicking

not candyclicking but ICC now

[dire cedar]

like dawg just put in parenthesis additive or multiplicative to the side of the thing. It would make things so much easier

[normal lagoon]

In fairness, I didn't know the liquid one was a multi. He should absolutely point out multis with an "x".

It's VERY inconsistent of +/x and additive/multiplicative

[feral maple]

lava's fault

[normal lagoon]

Rigging it just like he rigs Arcade bonuses

[zinc torrent]

Wiki has list of the additive/multis, I usually check there if I can't remember https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Bonus_Ballot

[wide osprey]

where i should farm now and what max

[hardy bone]

is this decent for early ac btw?

[zinc torrent]

That's really good dmg %, not sure what your cap is for wp/dmg

[hardy bone]

well im only at 200% quality so probably not that high

[deft vale]

Wheres daily dig?

[hardy bone]

i hadnt really worked on my ac and not much on ww

[hardy bone]

mimics unless its changed now

[dire cedar]

im not too sure but i think these cards arent entirely correct from my other guys that are skilling on spelunking,

[hardy bone]

i dont think the skilling afk gains cards work in spelunking or do they?

[echo crag]

does any non w7 card really work on spelunking ?

[hardy bone]

the skill eff card seems too

[noble grail]

rip i got 2 more elf hats from 50 gifts

[wise bridge]

how do i unlock artifact higher than gold quality?

[old portal]

how to get this purple cards?

[zinc torrent]

Not used to having prismas drop again, nearly left map with one on the ground

[hardy bone]

spelunking unlocks new card tier

[old portal]

aight thanks il put everyone to spelunking

[hardy bone]

there is a few sources, there is rift i think is tier above gold if im not mistaken, the jade emporium, then spelunking

[wise bridge]

ah okay i have the jade emporium but not rift :D

[hardy bone]

you gotta beat one the cave bosses for it so

[old portal]

aight i just put everyone on caving for now thanks

[dire cedar]

i havent gotten 1 yet congrats

[old portal]

what does people print with WW now?