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Isn't it 200% or I'm wrong
2 or 3 idr
Ok I'll try again
but as long as its capped which it should be you cant help ms any futher, youll wanna work on talent levels n such to get more kills
I have the reaper and the windwalker so it's the last master class
that and choccy chip with more crystal spawn chance will help your tent procs more often for more aura
You should use everything!
I'm trying to get the master class for bubo not farm crystal
...crystals mean you get more kills dummy
Huh?
Get smarter maybe this is why you can't get the 400 kills
How?
more kills for more tent procs for more respawn and more aura procs
First you ask if you should use a talent and then you say you don't want crystals
They count or no?
Crystals mean more mobs, the more mobs the more kills, the more kills the more kills you get
I believe so
you should be using respawn > aura > fart > chem > skull
You should be using EVERY TALENT YOU CAN actually
Well even if I tried to farm with crystals they would kill me and I don't have the accuracy and the damage enough to kill those crystals. Remember their stats are based on the mob in the map they are in
definately not, some skill will brick bubo bc lava cant code
order is the most important
Whattt
Yeah order made my kill count go up
youre not ready to get ac then
Bruh
I did it fine with spamming abilities as soon as I could one hit them
Without using crystals
didnt he try that
Yeah I couldn't have one hit crystals there when I got AC, but they would NOT have killed me
What was your damage
Yeah I know which is why I think it's speed/talent levels
How should I know? Enough to one hit worms but not one hit crystals there
I don't take records of that sorry lmao
Maybe I have a screenshot from that time roughly on a different character but it won't help
speed is fine, talent levels are entirely possible, but the most important thing is order of talents trying to get a good aoe and respawn skill loop with aura and farts
Well Ty for the tip
I unlocked AC but I can't even get past the first zone. Only 3 arcane mobs spawn, and I have only enough time to trigger the arcane spawn once
Does getting a multikill tier help for triggering the arcane spawn faster?
I'm trying to get for stats and other talents to boost other things
No I think not
I'm not sure myself
You'd only need to claim on SB if you needed the extra sailing speed bonus from Family Guy talent, otherwise, just make sure you have the star sign equipped before entering town and claim on whomever
could be worse, i suppose
no
AC is the hardest MC to start sine it relies on talent levels to progress
270% for visual/physical movement
i dont have a star sign for sailing which star world tab is it in?
red
Could be the person who didn't know task anvil unlocks until world 6 (I told them)
And had to use the first weapon/no tools/first tools
And got 2 vmans cause of that
i love how balanced early game is
me prismaing this when it caps at 40% 

Is it worth it to buy an ender captain when 1 of the traits are cloud discover rate? (I unlocked all clouds)
do you need artifacts still? then yes (probably)
otherwise, up to you (i'd still probably get it)
Got to world 5 recently and was wondering for gaming early on is it worth it to wait for plants to evolve or just grab them asap since the evolve chance is so low?
How lucky is it to get the Ender captain the day after unlocking the feature?
just
when you can. you want to get levels as soon as possible to unlock the mutations tab to start rolling for those. and while higher tier plants do give more dna to roll for, quantity > quality
how do i speed up leveling divinity
thats what i've been doing but was just wondering if the math for waiting outwieghed just grabbing
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=^(%3F!.*(pearl)).*divinity.*xp
Search every bonus in Idleon!
how does the bar for simple jar get smaller?

make more simple jars
it was 870 then as I was breaking jars it was reduced by 2 infront of my eyes
but I don't see any explanation for it anywhere
doesn't making more jars effect the next jar?
well, you can clearly see that if affects itself too 
does it tho?
brother you literally watched your requirement lower for simple jars after breaking/collecting simple jars 
I thought it's a bug
there is no explanation I see anywhere explaining this phenomena
the explanation is that it's coded that way so that simple jars have a means to become faster
but lava doesn't have space to throw every bit of description in-game
-# and sometimes doesn't know
this little guy could have explained it
lul, welcome to idleon
he'd have to have like 14 differents lines of text to explain everything
if you're feeling up to it, can always add a note to the wiki 
he is too cute to talk to the player...
I'm rejected by a bunch of pixels..
or use the fancy search feature in discord
that would actually take long time to get to the answer of this niche little thing
I simply don't care that much
and yet you rejected my answer twice 
I missed the word "explained" and was about to call a mod over to here
is there a shiny prio list for lvling them? i thought it may be a good time to finally do smth with shinies but idk which ones are the best to focus on first
i have most of the w1-w2 shinies unlocked and some from w3 but the only one lvled are g mush, board and squirrel
check wiki, the good ones are pretty clear
Not explaining
autoreview should have a list too
well.. you are basically saying "you saw it happen, then it must be."
I'm looking for the reason
Seeing this is so weird
np
I don't see anything out of place
do you mean the little statue guy?
a lot of the weird things you'll see in this game can be chalked up to "it's coded this way, either on purpose or by mistake" and that's basically it
ahem multikill
right
I mean fair enough
No, the quick ref being gone from storage chest
I just got donated like 4 pets including ram
lol so true
and how drop rate works with cards, afk fight, so on.. XD
Pretty sure it was 4 pets not 5
gratz on the ram!
It was from DeadTypeNejo
I am eternally grateful, they also gave crystal custard
I love this community
I also got golem and a few other pets for free, either in giveaways or generous trades
It's so amazing
but 2 groups go on my nerves XD 1. the ones who do not read at all..., 2. the ones who answer questions with: have you googled it? have you checked guides? do you read? click on the pin for guides
and the answer is like 1 word xD
These were before
This is after... But it's missing ram in the second screenshot
Wow so it is 5 pets
Mashed Potato, Gigafrog, Crystal Capybara, Crystal Custard and finally Dedotated Ram
Here, I finally got around to adding this to the wiki 
Wait you're part of the wiki people? No way
Dang
is my math wrong or does 5+7+2+4 = 17?
You mean... 6x2 + 4? Yeah your maths is right
also thanks for being a G!! and adding good info to the wiki
I would do it too, but I don't trust myself XD
18
The top big one counts for one, you have 1 big one and 16 under it
How did you even get that
oh I'm missing an achievement
I'll never get that...
5 + 7 +2 + 4
Ohhhh I see the thing
some certified
goin on in here 
I was stupid ignore this
I thought I had the achievements :(
Still am but whatever
I realized I'm missing one of the chest slot giving achievemnts
check ๐ for crystal farming guide
well my situation is a bit different
I don't care about the loot
I just want number of kills
right...which is also what the crystal farming guides want
oh? ok
well I thought since the mobs themselves have a loot table
that may not always be the case
also multikill and stuff could affect drops.. idk
i would just pick anything that you need to farm and just get kills via that way. i'm unsure what the actual highest crystal kph is since no one ever really cares about that
i'd assume w5 wurms is probably fastest
yeah I guess so
I needed gene cards, but now I have gene cards
so I don't really need anything else(except maybe troll boss keys, but the kph is not that good there)
`I tried different worlds, it only cares about w4
more statues are always good 
all onyxed for w4
ah, then yeah, clammies, like someone else mentioned
ty
I'll stay at clammies then
and just so people know
clammies seems to be faster than genes and flombeige
im wondering, why is es best for mob cards? do they drop similarly to main mob loot or what?
multiplicative DR from portal or something like that
This
DK best for Crystal stuff for their rare loot tables
ES best for everything else
whats task anvil?
im world 6 btw
Hilarious
I'm not talking about the boss gear btw I mean the actual anvil unlocks
you mean the speed xp and capacity right? i know that, but whats task anvil for boss gear?
chat is this useless?
Im on diabolical set but cant seem to get the wings should i just skip the set bonus 4 now
I did like 150 nightmares and still none
for you for now yes
you probably don't even have all artifacts
Is the button or the chest tier useless? I don't understand the question
what's your dr?
I have a drop rate of 6.65x is that good to grind the onyx power statue
obv the button... there is no chest
thw button, isn'r there a thingy that makes bad chests in the pile get overwriten with better chests if the sailer brings one?
like the eggs in breeding?
no
get at least 8x
preferably 12x
but ideal is 16x
Coo thanks 
do you have good obols?
better work on pop obols (es on gigafrogs) and then dk on sand pots for dice obols
I bet you don't
No not really
pop up to silver, not higher btw
Blocked
I HATE jokes of any kind
well then that's your next step
you could go for onyx
but that's like skipping while going up stairs
it's possible... just hard and inefficient
There is. It's SB's unending loot talent, which you don't want to use.
16.xx or something
Thanks 
honestly I didn't get what you meant either
16.54x Dr
do you know the right obol setup for drop rate?
anvil unlocks
No
There once was a man named Dave
Who dug up a prostitute's grave.
She was moldy as shit
And missing a tit.
But think of the money he saved!
i think thats what they mean
wow that's really unlucky... 100 nightmare 0 wings is insanely bad
did you do it on your vman? or other class?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok
My dr in vman is 16.70 so not much higher
so you want silver pop obols(gigafrogs) then you want dice obols for every other slot(square and more)(sand pots)
there are a few tricks with obols
but I don't wanna overwhelm you with more information
Guess ill just skip dia then cuz i dont think its worth farming more keys
I do my boss fights with vman
it gives you chance of getting double loot
so if you get wings
chances are you could get 2 wings
also raw droprate is almost always better on vman
the only bossfight I don't do on vman is emperor
bc vman is so weak...
if you do it on vman you will probably get it within 10 fights
I'm willing to bet on that
Alr i got 920 keys rn guess i could try one last time
ok i might need to start farming bosses on vman then
just make sure to pump up droprate(obols, keychains, talents, vman's luck talent tab four, book every luck talent, cards, star sign chip, etc)
What drop are you farming
oh i know that thx
right?
you mean me?
I think he meant UrAryhard
oh ok then
Idk. Talking about DR or whatever. Just curious in general
i still havent got my kruk necklace and ill need 1o of them for scarfs...
Donโt forget the trophies
does the quest take wings and necklace or it stays in inv?
It doesnโt eat them, unless something changed
And I think it only cares about the cape (could be wrong)
But you have to have the cape drop WHILE the quest is active. You might as well get a jump on it
it needs kruk necklace and wings, if it were only wings id have finished that long ago
I think so too
just make sure you get it on the right character
otherwise it won't count if you get the wings on character A you can't complete the quest on character B
you have to get it on character B
that happened to me
I got the wings on vman
but I was trying to complete the quest on dk...
so I had to farm for another wing
but i dropped wings on dk so if i want to do the quest on vman ill have to get them again
which dropped in ~5 tries XD I used my very last remaining keys.. super lucky
Took about 15k keys to do the quest on all characters
seems super lucky
what was your drop rate? +40x?
5 obols 0 wings ๐
Honestly no clue. That was before I knew what DR even was
12 battles done
LOL I mean.. the obols are good at least XD
True bhhaa
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Only 5 left poggers
!merit5
1๏ธโฃ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2๏ธโฃ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4๏ธโฃ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5๏ธโฃ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
โ๏ธ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
โ๏ธ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
!merit4
1๏ธโฃ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2๏ธโฃ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3๏ธโฃ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4๏ธโฃ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5๏ธโฃ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6๏ธโฃ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7๏ธโฃ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
Can anyone tell me what does rift guy can do
what
So basically nothing?
I see
yes for now
is there a way to disable crystal mobs from spawning? or just dont active?
uh yeah
switching characters so they go afk mode xdddd
make use of some golden meat pie if you need defense
remove all the crystal spawn chance you can, else just gitgudder
be unlucky
Undo the cards and crystal talent
nah, just gitgud
Whats gitgud?
Can u kill them in 1 or 2 shot,if yes then use a archer
Otherwise afk
nope, even the normal mobs takes 2 -3 hits lel
Tbh i cleared w5 and w6 thanks to golem pet
@bleak gazelle best way to farm the rice cakes rare drop?
es? prob
the stack rice thing
Think my es will not live if I do it active in world 6
dk then
We just aren't skillful
My dk will live active has is level 700 now
what
Got my main to level 700 yesterday morning it is a dk
ye ik
of u dont wanna use es then use dk ig
get good
gotta work on your ES then 
Nope
What recipes am I missing?
I have a bad cold still @bleak gazelle
click the question mark to see
i thinl one is the upgraded opal
idk
does the 3x printer multi from the god stack with wired in from lab or does it make 2x from lab irrelevant
They stack
gotcha. i just unlocked goat so im sending my people back to lab. debating if i just throw everyone in there with lab exp bonus from arcane cultist and just leave everyone for a few days
Finally got access to both Flashy and Alchemic genetics...
fix spice comps
I finally got Breeding Level 50
more when
More what?
Breeding Level 50 grants me access to Overwhelmed Gold Egg.
What do you mean beo dosen't like level 80 breeding?
And there aren't anymore good Breeding XP boost sources.
To be fair, my Breeding XP Stamp was only level 10 - now it's 50
why does autoreview say golden cake source is anvil?
can you actually craft cakes?
oh damn demented spiritlord drops the recipe
what's your skill setup?
200+
each
ok just reset all those
take them all out
then do this
manually activate last one as soon as you set "attacks" to auto
also replace aura with skull before AC after AC this is the ideal setup I found
okay thanks
let me know if you got it
what does +x lvl chance for bravery Opal do? increasing the chance to have chose opal in chest?
increase chance for opal to be a reward
there is a base chance for opals to show up among the reward choices
every time you take an opal reward that chance goes down
and yes +x lvl chance for opal increases that chance
@feral maple want my head cold?
why do you have to specify you are a female? XD
Get called male allot

I feel like I have asked this exact question and got the same exact answer before
what do you mean
Any tips on farming hampters?
normal hampter? active ES stiltmole, or candy on SB/DB
golden hampter? DK crystal farming at wurms
Thanks it was for normal
Doctor said i have bad head cold
wtf
CC > Respawn Only if you can deal with crystal by itself
CC > Respawn > Gas for generic
CC > Respawn > Aura if you can oneshot AC mobs for insane crystal
CC > Respawn > Aura > Skull/Gas for maximum efficiency
Qwaser courtesy
You can't get it
like this schematic does not exist?
Yeah


should you hold back with enchanting all the collectibles from the jar until you have page 2 unlocked, or just go for it?
what is the grotto on th hole? same thing as the cave?
almost same as The Dawg Den (cave3) https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Caverns#tabber-The_Gloomie_Grotto
c10 is Monument Of Justice is good one
priority for wisdom rewards?
Wisdom Bonuses Multi > % All Monument AFK Gain > +% EXP Gain for Villagers > then Farming Crop Evo Chance and Player Drop Rate
ty 
Jar Rupie Value also useful, but last with drop rate and crops
Jade Coin Gain useless, very similar name of bonus
jade coin >> multi 
did my first run got to round 7
how often should it be done?
whenever u feel like it tbh
early you do like every day, later it add less and less.
I do monuments once/5d or 6days
Schematics #22 "Monument Reward Multi now increases at the normal rate of +100% daily for 4 full days!"
Bolaia, Student of Cavern Lore have Justice only bonus "Justice Reward Multi goes up 100% every day for +14 more days! Also, (1 per lvl)x chance for opal reward!"
You do it until it stops being fun, then you just let it rot just like the printer samples you've neglected for the past month
wym it's always multi > drop rate >
miore drop rate
emperor reset ?
how do i get the musical note on sailing? i checked all islands and none of them has the same icon

interesting
i have gotten only the first music icon and not the second one. Maybe i need to keep sending the boats there
it doesnt exist
w7 cavern update
why is my vmans catching efficiency abysmal, stuck at 600k, while his mining/tree cutting are lower level/same gear but 2-3million
finally got all the superbits done lol
could be from the monument bonuses, bravery gives mining eff justice gives catching eff i think and wisdom gives chopping eff
Ahhh, haven't quite made it to wisdom yet, that must be why, ty
Bravery:
Bravery Multi -> Monument AFK -> Bell Ring -> Villager EXP -> Mining-> Gaming/Cooking -> Bucket -> rest (Gaming/Cooking/Bucket depending on your need)
Justice:
Justice Multi -> Monument AFK -> Lamp Wishes -> Villager EXP -> Class EXP -> Summoning/Catching -> Harp -> Rest
Wisdom:
Wisdom Multi -> Monument AFK -> Droprate -> Chopping -> Rupie/CropEvo/Villager exp -> Jade -> Gambit -> Rest
i use this to decide what to pick when doing my monument stuff lol. obviously if you see an actual opal get that over everything
every time lmao opals get rarer the more you get them so why the hell wouldnt i grab them every chance i can lol
getting an opal and opal chance are very different i never pick opal chance
ah lol i see i see, well i still like seeing that opal number go up ngl
i think i have 161 opals currently? havent bought anything for the hole from the shop yet
CropEvo actually important one, since farming bonuses behind amount of crops you found and it gives bonus to many things. https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Potti quest 180 crops gonna be hard if you avoid this
and even if opal are kinda a waste, getting them remove them from hte pool (kinda)
obviously dont pick it over any multis
Damn that nugget is 20x mine
unless you already reach the cap, kinda
my nugget was i think 6m then it hit a 26m i almost passed out xD
I've been done with gaming for 2 months tho
Bro these damn purple bits take too long to get
I only have 20
should start working on boosting your gaming a bit, since we know lava will be adding new stuff to it
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=multiversegod heres my IT if yall wanna see it, i was able to update my info since last time lol. last time i tried it wouldnt let me update it
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
Is there a speedrun guide for vman?
can i trust the mechanic arm for automatic anvil item depositing? does it deposit every time its full or every time i log in on that char? i sometimes feel like its not always working but maybe its just me
oh danm i was getting 140 po boxes from the Be atom thing now with that last superbit from gaming im able to get 210 po boxes a day thats fkin awesome
pretty sure it deposits it on daily reset
ohh so like trapping drone with rift upgrade?
then i still should collect them manually and its just in case i forget right?
(and i almost always forget)
so the mechanic arm is still good to have xD
finally replaced all my sneaking masks or whatever they're called with the rosary beads, gonna keep my guys on the spot to get betting lvl rosaries before i go to mastery 2
Show your gems?
he probably wanna see sneaking gems xd
I mean gemstone in sneaking
gemstone
are they not good enough or something lol?
grind 10k of blue, and few others in m2
so i should go to m2?
I should farm on m1 more ig
M2 is hard to advance
Stuck on the first floor for 2 days
yeah im def not going to m2 soon then xD
you want 1 or two double lotus, rest veil+rosary. this is gonna be fine till m3.
see lots of bug reports with phone version of game and sneaking.
does this score mean anything or is it just get 5 skulls and youre good? do i get more trophies the more dmg i deal?
what about on m4?
there tome bonus points for higher damage after boss dead score. not really important and you have huge number already
you get m4 bonus for finishing m3
whats the bonus?
so i dont have to worry about the score now
wait hold up does that mean you can go farther than m4 and theres not any bonuses yet? or is m4 the furthest you can go to for now
you can unlock m5
oh yeah i finally got enough div to get my 2nd god rank so that was cool
wiki says 300k is enough (bonus 4305), not sure. i think you fine https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Tome
The Tome is located in the Outer World Town.
Accomplish diverse tasks spanning all facets of the game to earn PTS, granting various bonuses, such as: % DMG, % Skill Efficiency and % Drop Rate, also affects "Tome" Alchemy Bubbles.
You must buy 2x Blue Tome Pages and drop at Tome to unlock % Skill Efficiency Bonus from The Tome.
You must buy 7x ...
Dude you asked me this the other day and I told you you can go to m5 because that's what endgamers are on ๐
lmao i hardly remember what i did last week xD but i do appreciate all the responses you guys give me ๐
my brain is a tad bit broken lol
to finish m3 you will gear +- 6 characters (or even 9 characters) double lotus and have near 90%+ detect rate last level of m3. have to hit door once or few
danm im running really low on black lenses, can i use my DB and pop a bunch of candies to get them? cuzi dont really wanna have an es on overnight to farm them
wait is it the es you use for rare drops? i cant really remember lol. cuz ik you use the dk for statue farming but some of the statues i had to use the es on instead
ES for rare drops yes
only w3 statue is done by es
you can use DK there to farm crystal mobs and lenses. But you will farm less than with ES
If you have AC, you could increase drop rate in that stage as well, since you will farm black lenses all your life there
danm i forgot to put on my lab gear yesterday on my ac i missed out on quite a bit of afk gains ๐
oh well lol i think its time for me to do my daily boss kills ill cya boys in half an hour
is there an optimal way to deal with all the character jails (lab/div/bravery)?
yep
you get all your guys to goat god then when you do put them in the lab and have them all stay in there til they hit i think lvl 40 div then put them on monuments to afk after you put on the tranqi style
be sure to put mantra style on when you put all your guys in the lab
Good day, my wife
the elephant god is really good for the afking at monuents im not sure how far in her is though lol
ok about endless summ, if im stuck at 92 (1hp round) and i dont have last 2 bosses unlocked and i dont have doublers (nowhere near c14 rn) then i should just wait with summoning (still buying slimes on reset ofc)?
i'm near the start of all this. only unlocked the snake so far. i got 3 characters doing div and 4 (1 is a brand new 9th character) in lab to get to killers brightside and no bubble left behind so another character can push. With my maestro on the g.mush grind (almost half way there). div seems so slow. Am i supposed to hard focus div do you think?
how you get past it is by spamming a fuck ton of mobs in one spot to push the enemies back, you kinda gotta juggle a lil though since you need to spawn some mobs at other spots to keep the other spots from being pushed completely
yeah i tried something like this many times but ig i dont have enough mana for now
biggest wall in endless summ i got so far
ahhhh i see i see, so for you, youll want to have your maestro killing gmush till i think they kill 12m of them? you'll also want your blood berserker to be getting 1m kills on every mob from w1 to w3 the other people should be on divinity
What do you mean by last 2 bosses unlocked?
i gotta check though i dont remember if snake god is before or after arctis
oh my bad my bad
havent got to the maps where the stones are yet
nah keep everybody on divinity until yyou unlock arctis, hes the second god youll get
samurais and something idk
i got up to skydoggies and itll take a while to get past them
arctis changes a lot lol
also you can open the map and teleport into the hole its on the far right side of the map in w5 (you dont have to get the 2 portals open before to do this), youll want to get that started as well @fair sphinx
after you get arctis then you can send you maestro and blood berserker to the things i was talking about lol
why you do that
ah yeah also remember you can upgrade your gods blessings by going on the alter and clicking on the god
?
be careful they're hungry
did i get pinged
i already started on the hole thanks. i started it at the beginning of w5 but then i realised there was ANOTHER jail XD bravery
and Justice. And Wisdom.
oh god theres more?! T_T
theres 15 areas in the hole
finally finished my daily boss kills, i also got another tooth necklace so thats another divine scarf whenever i make them
oh danm i have 7 tooth necklaces lol just 3 more and ill be able to get a scarf for everyone
gosh i hate that this is a thing
god danm im getting a whole lot of regular lenses, i might have to keep depo'ing them for a lil bit
just found out that only the primordial shrine is a rare drop lol the atom collider is the red mask from the w5 mob the voidinator is the mob drop for the magma slugs i think, and primordial shrine is black lenses
Question for gaming mains, what do I focus level 
i thought the atom collider used black lenses too lol
having them all pruple is fkin nuts
Pong controller max it
mmm true 
(it gives better fps when playing pong)
For wisdom monument, is it better to go further, or to get more chests? I often see people trying to go further but idk why
wheres the gaming mains man 
anybody know why i cant click deposit and dump all my ores into the smelter? i had to manually put those ore in btw
i checked my storage things too just in case pretty sure it isnt that either
did you already have some in forge prior? if your stack exceeds the forge limit, it wont auto deposit 
no they were empty when i tried to click deposit lol those ore in there were the ones i put in manually after closing my game and seeing if it was a dsync thing
w3 automation arm do deposit for ya
yeah it does it once every reset lol but i coulda swore i could still do it myself even with that option turned on
you get bars once per reset. deposit on empty
yeah im aware the smelter was empty i clicked on it to deposit the starfire ore and it didnt deposit any
need 3 more for bb --> db quest, where to find?
Colosseum chests count
did w1-4 colo alr
your inventory stack size is larger than forge so the deposit button (or click to deposit?) won't work
You need more capacity
any idea which talents for db ๐ค
ah i see i see thanks
is there a calculator i can use to find out how much more of a certain material i need to max a construction?
I know there is just dont know where
nvm im very stupid
Believe IT has it but i dont use that
it was on IT i just didnt realise it had an option to see the max
im on my es currently farming at the blue eyeballs lol
Probeply should also do that
i havent filtered out the regular mob drops for it yet since i wanna get a max stack of them for my storage lol. its one of the ingredients for the refinery dont rememebr what salt though lol
i had like sub 20m of it in my storage now i have 209m after maybe 30 minutes, kinda wild
Void salt
ah yeah thats right lol, i also should probably do it for the glass for pink salts too
I just us few time candys every month or so
6.3k every 1min 45seconds goes by pretty quickly
i should finish this 
Probeply get more dust first
Well maybe not
salt? yeah, could probably green stack it first, i'm almost there
How far off are you?
oh lul nvm, just did it
Whoaaaa
Also i feel i should put reddox salt on auto refine for few days
140 compared to my 1
Just to see how much i get
I always have it on that!
What rank is your reddox salt?
you're probably at the point where you need to have auto refine off so you can level it 
Hmm should wait few more ranks i think
Once i reach 2500 a cycle ill put it on auto for 1 or 2 days 
Just to see how much salt i would get
I didn't even know it went that high
im revolted
Seen 1000+
What do you mean?
i mean im going to vomit that ss has given me an ulcer
how fast does that take to get 1m?
that's not even that high comparatively 
isnt there someone with like at leas 3k lvl for that
unsure about the first one, but rest should all be legit
Does shrine level even matter?
more construction levels matters for construct mastery 
But why
407x25(seconds for 1 cycle)รท60 (to make it minutes) =169.58 so 169min 33 seconds
To get reddox full
so 2 and a half hrs roughly lol thats hot
2h 49min 33sec
lol i did say roughly
If it was 2h 30m it would be hotter
But I dont want to stare at construction clicking build every minute
my rank up time is very different xD
Hard to say
at the very least thubie
Idk how much you get a cycle at like rank 10k+
I can imagen you can rank up like ever 10/15min at rank 10.000+
Maybe even faster๐
As far as i know
at a certain point you'd be limited by the max storage
Assuming you got infinite time
Fair at some point the cost will be max stack or potwntially more if it isnt capped
From the moment I learned the weakness of my mortal coil, it disgust me.
@ lava please add a prestige for storage so we can store higher number of item
Atomms is what additional items confirts it in a new differnt currency but technickly what your asking
Mother-
So we already have it
Father
So got another idea that is already in game? 
Raise atom cap to 100500m
Also introduce a new red stack which is 1000m of an item. Also the new red stack only counts as 2 green stacks it doesn't do anything else
are you using your bubo/ac?
Lava Im done with summoning battle, wtf do I do now
play silksong obviously
its not in rare drop so i guess its ok to farm with with ac right?
If only I could
yeah i always did cc at tremor wurms and got a ton of keys and stuff
Killing 3 birds with one stone
No way, I get almost the same amount with 16x
CC, Tempest Tachyon, Keys
Yeah not gonna start about how i dislike endless summoning due to it being sorta slow
Wait ac is not tempest
Good thing Im done with it
guys when i afk on this in cavern the remaining bugs dont lessen?
check what your afk rate is
You have to claim the bugs on the floor
Need to pickup buggs when you claim afk claims
With those it goes down
so i need to click on claim then click on the bugs? wasted hours of afk and nothing happens lol
After clicking claim it should drop buggs depending on what your afk info tells you
ok ok will try that now and close the game. thanks man
I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end it doesnt even matter
Until it does
What's the point of cleaning the bell after getting these?
pretty sure there isnt any reason
Thank you 
I dont know the season or what is the reason Im standing here holding my blade
i heard in hammerfell they have curved swords CURVED SWORDS
What in oblivion is that?!
Funi
lol i forgot this was a vial guess ill crank this bad boy out while im grinding here anyways
You got instantaneous gaming yet?
Nice
I havent opened gaming tab since snail reset to 20
mine is at lvl 17 currently, im tryna pump up their chances before i send it on
you really should have all your vial max by now, your not a newbie anymore
well beside salt and maybe gs
is better to unlock first the artifact cube that gives dmg % or unlock the second island?
okay then
How much health do tremor worms have?
what's the best place to farm gold twine?
Whats gold twine
Ty
is there a next page after this?
Not yet
oh so this is the max for every cauldron?
visible max
drop from Flombeige, jellyfish
oh danm i think lava made the gold twine stackable. thats pretty nice
pretty sure those have been stackable for a longtime...or forever
every twine is stackable
why ww premium helmet in storage and not in ww inventory or already equiped on him 
-# unless premium helmet stat exchanger
-# ww helmet is meh
why hate helm
finally got 1 of my guys troll armour lmao
10 /10 when
maybe 2 weeks idk
and don't tell me i see 80k max dmg 
definitely not 80k
its not k its T lol
u do know this is w5 char right
why bring k into the topic 
i can't spell today smh
my brother in lava you said k first not me xD i was just saying it wasnt thousand it was trillion
i do know what t stands for
all ruby cards when
lmao that might take a while, but since im grinding on my es im kinda thinking about grinding a buttload of cards from diamond to ruby. been a hot minute since i was killin shit on my es lol. most of my people were slaving away for monument hours for like 2 months
start with w1 
lol im missing 2 from w1
i believe u got enough dr for w1-w3 
i gotta stay and kill these jellyfish guys til i get 27 gold twine though, ngl its taking quite a bit longer to grind these than it was gridning those black lenses
nvm 26 guess my bitching in discord netted me one
Use candy?
5k w6 stones and only now getting troll armor
My refinery was fk'd up for months lmao
Silver rings?
And how do you have the divine scarf but not even the lustre weapon?
So real!
Ill stay quite about your salt this time 
guys is it wise to invest all opals to conjuror then return them to explorer after a while? i have 83 opals atm and lvl 10 explorer
Depends on what you need I reckon.
Iโve always just dumped everything into one, then reset after lvling slowed down
Explorer is the option to unlock a new cavern right?
Yeah Iโd do that. Unless it would take multiple months to unlock the next cavern
I didn't have nullo til under a month ago... I got to world 3 so many months ago... Before summer
next cavern would take 8 days per my calculation of exp per hour, in that time i can get 7 lvls for my conjuror. wachu think?
Pretty decent i know it taken me longer
Insane
I didnt have w4 bonuses to help me do it quicker๐
Specificly lab bonus that makes cycles like 3x faster
So i expect it also a little bit
is there a sailing guide out there? didn't see it in the pins. im discovering i think island 6 rn. trying to figure out what thresholds are for exploring new islands
A week isnโt terrible, unless you think you can get more benefit out of the conjuror lvls (but I doubt it )
Except for cookie what do i need to reliably farm crystals at tremors
So its worth instead of just afk
Also got the cards btw
Are you one shotting the worms? as well as who are you planning on farming them with?
!guide and wiki
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
?wiki Sailing
So this is basically saying, pre island 9, donโt do anything above 2 hours
Or whatever matches how frequently you can check your boats 
I think the big draw is to try and just gather resources so that you can upgrade boats/trade for gold to get new boats
right, trying to figure out the balance between how high to level up my ships rn based on how much theyre costing
i would prioritize new ships over upgrades as long as you have your first ~3-4 within 2 hour range of every island
also loot/speed upgrades on boats have soft breakpoints every 7/8 levels, you can use IE/IT to check those
so does the rift guy schematic actually do anything or is it a troll, trying to decide if i want to start saving for it
it's just what lava uses as a placeholder
cool thanks finally got the last cavern so its good to know i dont need to push that to lvl 30 yet
how do i level up artifacts
i think green is the last level and you get that at jade emporium but how do you get the level before that
rift 31 iirc
yea, normal+ancient is default, Eldritch is rift 31 and sov is jade emporium
And moist artifacts will be W7
Abyssal artifact 
Ye def 1shot :b
With dk but i only get about 500-600 on the thingy
So idk if thats enough
crystal chance and talent levels 
-# and DR
Woah you trynna summon her by mentioning that? 
Who is her
Crystal chance is 1/98

Says toolbox
Good starting point
i just unlocked the temple in the hole what should ii be focusing on? respawn rate i assume right?
What about DR?
Middle all the way, right if you intend to active a bit (only works active not afk), left later when % too low
I have a weird ish question. Does the snail reset levels once you hit max? I got it to lvl 25 a week ago and just logged in to find it at 24 again. Is this a bug? Or does it drop a level every rest
16.72 and to about 500-600 kills on the skill
Doesnโt reset as far as Iโm aware 
Maybe a rollback or sum like that ๐คทโโ๏ธ tho I doubt this option
Good stats to start crystal farming, orb count yeah okay ig
Damn... now I gotta try again for max. Oh well. Thanks for confirming
So its better than just afking them then?
Because I reckon you also canโt click more on the level up option so canโt see how it did it 
respawn only if you're active farming, otherwise just spam search early on
Main now @faint wigeon
I've had some rollbacks when i switch between phone n steam could be because of that
Nah active always better
Gz
shouldn't reset unless you maybe swapped platforms without cloud saving or lost internet while and tried to cloudsave shortly after getting 25
Blessings.

I lost power while laptop was charging yesterday cause of storms in my area so I lost about 3 hours of stuff @bleak gazelle
Could vman be better because my crystal chance on that is 1/21 and 17.84 dr
Or are the respawns too slow
Makes sense. Think thats what happened
vman crystal farming is only for xp purposes
No vman is shit at active farming
The reason to active farm and crystal farming on DK is because every 100 orb score counts as another roll on the drop table
-# something like that
Ahh fair ig
Any way to get my orb score higher tho?
Cuz im 1 shotting and having 2 of those knights at the same time
more talent levels, more crystal chance
But it doesnt seem to go higher
Lvl's into what?
Orb
orb, primarily
More orb lvl more timer
statue/boomerang should help too though
gotta pump that sailing speed up so everythings at 2 hours then just 
Speed isnt rlly a thing its more the artifact find chance being low
Idrk why rbh
Tbh*
Are all your boats at 2 hours for Fury Island?
Are you claiming chests every 2-4 hours?
Make sure you have the star sign equipped before entering town to claim
Here are all your artifact % chances, especially with Justice, getting at least Ancient should be quite easy
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact find
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Turtle vial is pretty big too
Seems like im stupid... I got fury at Eldrich... Thought it was lower
All boats 2 hours ye
Theres another list floating out there that's bit more updated, but that covers basically the same
Starsigns almost all infini stars
Only big ones for books i am missing is atom and Sovereign fury ig
Guess for artifact find that the only 2 are turlte vial and justice
Question so I have 10000 statues of about 5 different ones cam I run to do my oynx quest or should I upgrade first then enhance after
Cuz my hole pretty bad and havnt unlocked turtle vial yet
First enhance
Statues will be worth more after
!maxtalents
Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!
Especially dont do kapow yet
nah, i don't like th elook of it 
Yeye i know but just havnt rolled high enough
I was focusing on unlocking the wrong vials
My bad :b
Might be a stupid question btw but does kruk set bonus not boost vman talents
Gotta take the complain to the Jeff Meister then
it affects the non-important ones 
Ok so enhance drop stack 10000
aka just these 4
Thought so :/
Gotta drop 20k for the onyx tho 
Is it 20 thought it was 10
Where do I need to tap on the gods to link them? My character just keeps walking to their pedestal, I stg I've tapped everywhere
Idk why he doesn't wanna pray to the bear
go on the altar, then you can click on them god


Whose giving out popcorn and why wasnโt I invited

is there a goal I should go for with bravery statue right off, like maybe one of the unlocks is a lot better then the others
2k is a big one that lets you retry the entire round if you lose.
For Justice, 2k, 10k, and 24k are all huge bonuses.
For Wisdom, 300 and 5k are both big ones.
What speed does the boat have to have to get to the last island in 2hours
200m
Why do people ask questions like that? What practical benefit is there in that knowledge? You either have a 2 hour trip or you don't, and you'll keep upgrading the boat/captain until you do. Your strategy is not improved in any tangible way by knowing this number.
Nothing in what I said was judgemental
something something wikiable question
And as for why, spend some time in this chat or any other questions channel. People will ask questions that don't benefit themselves at all, then get ~furious~ when people don't answer them.
Didn't get mad though your question came off as disingenous towards someone who just wanted to know a stat
Brother, stop using words you don't know. That's twice now.
Just proving my point lmao who's getting mad in this situation
Nothing I said has been judgmental or disengenuous ๐ค No point has been proven.
Isnt this chat for questions?
I suppose so
I'd know the answer to that question if I could r**d
Yeah, it's fine. It's also wikiable. That 200m answer is technically right but practically wrong since you'll have sailing time reduction from SB so you'll want more than that to hit your lowest time possible...however you can't see your actual time in-game (lowest visual is 2 hours), so you have to use an external tool like IE or IT which will also give you recommendations on your max island distance to go to
-# also sailing speed isn't really something to focus on since there are so many sources of it
Dw just block him/her like i did. Had similar experience and can't be bothered to type on.
Fortunately there are many helpful others in this channel
is OJ Bay good for grinding SB/ES gimmick kills (pirate flag and sorcerer wormhole)?
You also white knighted on behalf of something that didn't concern you and got upset with me pointing out the ridiculousness of it and then got upset?
SB yeah because flat map for life, ES is just any I think 
Yep, but you could also farm Kruk keys if you go to the tremor wurms. But yeah, OJ is great.
ES would be anywhere you have the damage for it OJ bay is the best for pirate flag kills but I'd reccomend going to minichiefs so you can snag some levels while you're at it
atp if you're going to level just go to sam
Nah cause minichiefs isn't that far off of OJ bay actually
is there any beneficial use for this?
if you don't like your bonuse
-# and ideally right away after unlocking both the schematics to gain bonus levels
-# or if you pumped your bell study a bunch recently
How can I increase my artifact loot chest chance from .01?
if you're searching for sovereigns from islands beyond the frost relic, you don't, really
But here are all the artifact find sources, turtle vial and justice are the big ones
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact find
Search every bonus in Idleon!
seems like a question you ask before sitting there for 700 hours 
i put it and forgot about it
if i do new bravery today, what happen to the last reward? does it add into today reward or the last reward gone
Add
At least u will not have the problem of missing points to reset ur bell
Dragona
Evil @hoary kernel alert
@hoary kernel want to see the very good Pokรฉmon card I pulled today?
Wowowowowowoow
Sent you the photo
Takemitchi 
michi taki when
Bad @faint wigeon sent you a message
wikiable name when
Kittens are Dragon food @glad isle
you like it ?
Cunnilingus in w5 chat?
I sure hope not
Where tab V recipe unlock
Tab IV
as surprised as you
fake info
Nope I have over 100 Dragon squishmallows here
i don't believe u
Want to see some photos?
2-3000$+ of squishmallows damn
I pulled a Pokรฉmon card with about $1000 Aussie today raw

Sent you friend request so can send you the photo of it
Oki
Sent the photo
Hello party people
hat people when
When cape with multi dr on rotation
bribe lava
Yes
it a Throphy https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Trophies not really good
Tanks
this doenst work if i stacked all opals on one villeger?
if you have all opals on a single villager you have villagers with 0 Opals
so it works as normal, but not in the way you're hoping
so what do I do here? is it bugged? or 0 opals is still a thing so I need to put 5 opals everywhere before i stack all somewhere
Why should it be bugged? It even says in caps that it's based on the villager with the least number of opals.
it's working as intended, I'm pretty sure it's just not very good compared to stacking all opals on a single
mirai said equal spread bonus is a multi but i havent checked the IT breakdown myself
and i dont even have any points to invest there so i just forget it
-# and no i dont feel like resetting
Prob get better photographic memory with that "first two reveals shows the row of last selected"
or just get more starting attempts/reach 10k
How many hours you got in it
750 hour iirc, i mostly put char on golem
Thats your issue then tbh, wisdom becomes much much easier & consistent once you get 10k(?) hour thing
owh okk
Putting characters on golem for the statues isnโt bad either (depending on your droprate atleast) so i wouldnt bother too much with it for now
It's insanely bad for a multi might be like a certain summoning bonus that says is a brand new multi
is a multi so very good but only when 280+ opal and one bazillion conjuror points
is there a trick for instantgaming to make it a bit easier or is it just a matter of spam clicking and then periodically clearing the board of chem plants
Farming is the way for instant gaming
words of the wize when
hi
nuh uh
That's about it. Whenever you get a third chem plant, you click the highest tier one. Otherwise, spam harvest all until you get the bits you want.
well guess I'm free till the gaming update https://i.imgur.com/xViPway.png
4740 levels to go
Where are your 72 logbook plants
after I finish glassy
You're never going to finish glassy just like you're never going to finish gaming 
has anyone ever gotten the 8th gaming plant evolution?
what gaming lvl ?
does multi kill affect bones ?
i think not
just realised i could buy the 9.9q red bit box in the imports section, wasnt expecting this lol
box9
none of the MC special currency get affcted by mk
yeah, not like AC need acc at the point you're at XD
lava logic 
yeah those map are pretty bad, lots of travel time
Meanwhile, I'm still stuck in W5 
yeah its a pain to get the dmg for it. managed with hoarding more purple tachy
how high are your plant grow speed bonuses ?
Which class gets dragon statues the best?
SB
5.1 minutes
Active or afk?, id assume afk
does DB work just as good? @ mirai






