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2 parter: am i doing this right? and should this be more than 0%/how can i make this more than 0%?
yes ofc
at what %
gambit
what cavern is gambit? im on jars currently
please i have been trying to fill out my second page for over a month
gambit is 14
thats depressing
please anyone anything anywhere
i'd offer advice but youre further than i am
ty anyway lol
not sure, base cap is 100%, then there's multi then conjuror bonus, so 450% maybe?
uhh not necessarily doing it right, did you get all collectibles of tab1? and if yes you did in fact a bit wrong.
To make it more than 0% get more ruby digit, or could enchant collectibles that gives new collectible find chance
enchant collectible find chance and get the schematic for gems to boost collectible chance + get more gems
i got all page 1, yes
ah, i was getting none for weeks and then i reset all enchanted collectibles
im a long way from that and what level i have to reach for a chance for wisdom multi?
so that may be it?
im max
except for above
gambit's multi is ez, wave +9 to get it
pls dont call that easy some pleople dont have the brain to remember the items
yeah that's not the thing to do, as getting all of tab1 will reduce the chance to get new collectibles and you'd want to keep it as high as possible for tab2, tho no worries just need some luck and time 
take a pic with your phone 
rip lmao so the chance is most likely so under 0.0% that it wont display
im going to try to get new collectibles and enchant them and see where that gets me
max what. 0% is rounded so you can get them at 0% but you are not close to max
max schematics
i see a ton of measurements that are rupie value, but none that are collectible. i am now remembering the schematic that gets you higher chance, tysm
Can miracle chests be acquired through Sailing?
iirc no, only gem shop

finally upgraded my weapon from the ice gloves to this one
shouldve included it in the first ss lol oopsie daisy
give him something better then amarok
lmao maybe in a couple months when i can make troll armour
dam you got no salts?
oo, that's low, thank you
and probably not couple of months
its only like 100k salts for everyone
@fathom chasm
ahh someone who actually manage their salts i just upgrade them everytime i can
i fucked my salts up twice now lol i fixed them then fucked them up again after i realised i didnt work on the second page of salts at all while trying to fix my first page
thats why im still not close to getting troll armour even after all this time
? multi has 0 extra salt, he is in a deficit
he uses more than he can make
only combustion tho
to bad i cant read
these days I dont expect ppl here to be able to read, no offense 
my favorite color is red
ehh who cares about salts right?
reading is not real
FAKE IDLEON PLAYER ALERT!
hey its John Duck 
Dodoumi, you know what I love about tempest? the whitescreen fiesta
I looove gettin whitescreened in the middle of an abo fight
Tempest 1 - Arcanist 0
it's totally related dw
never had it 
I'm having a bit of a problem with Opals, do I reset them at the lamp and give them all to the explorer?
I prefer ww over ac 
depends
but I'd say sure
progression speed? yes, maybe
upgrade ui? yikes
welp Mista Muters it was nice talking to you again, but is time for me to eep so nighty nighty 

ur salt is so cooked because ur at the point of sovereign most artifacts
just like ur td
im very aware lmao
HEY i can fix my TD
i planned on doing my td after upgrading my towers more
procrastination hits
at least get all w1 to w3 prayers
what type of bits i hvae to unlock to get insta gaming?
its called summoning
or is it farming, nah its farming
crop scientist is your friend
oh and so is db
- kitsune
he is not i dont like farming
IF I craft the Diabolical set, what class do I give it to?
do i renew the bell asap? or should i wait
why do you want to reset it?
its taking a day to come up with a new ring
did you get the schematic or level up the study bonus?
the what
then no
you know if you reset the bell your bonuses reset too right?
does resetting get more expensive?
no
oh so it stays at 25 forever?
i think so
i keep the improvement methods tho
yes
so why not clean the bell and keep resetting after the first clean?
theres only 6 upgrades to unlock after that theres no point to clean it
I am just not ready for it,at one point the animation of towers stoped showing bcz of lag
whats that setup?๐ญ
Thats not what u call a setup,its just random,dont worry i have 3 or 4 party tower up thete
3 yeah i placed 3 party tower
maybe if you used an actual good setup you whoud have killed it
yeah, i don't know if I'm ready to do the w1-w5 TD wave 121+ equinox task either, like, you and i do play on mobile, of course there will be so much lag
Yeah MAYBE but i saved my progress till 110
I can try anytime i want
whats your towers levels?
Which one
all 9 of them
all of them except the first 3 their only good to upgrade for atom bonus
Will this do?
big dub
once i get those 2 artifacts eldritch imma move all my guys to getting the second last island all eldritch
66 is max btw for wizard towers
no its the winner bonus from summoning
the shimmer island bonus artifact is the pink lantern
i cant tell the difference 
focus upgrading poisonic more
i also got another chem plant, just gotta get 3 more of them for that equinox challenge
do you have the atom bonus?
i got 14 then saw that i didnt have enough space for another and no gems
ive had 15 cap for a while now
which one?
I want to but if i do i wont get much void salt(ignore the bar problem,its filled up now)
thats what i was thinking lmao
yeah, that extra wizard tower damage one
after lvl 50, you mean
whats bits you on btw?
i get green q bits from the first plant ive gotten to 2 red bits one time
il never reach insta gaming
insta gaming is reached when you have less than 2.8 minutes for a plant growth cycle, iirc
facts
mine is a 4.5 min
indeed
Me 5.2
how does that make sense
got 3 more breeding pets to get and ill have them all unlocked
I ignored gaming for a whole month saving 15 chem plat bcz someone here told me to when i was starting equinox and then i thought i will get them when i get the could
So i used them all and got from 8min to 5.2min after 10min of clickings
and that's just with Kitsune Roxie being active, imagine getting 2.7 minutes growth cycle with Kitsune Roxie being inactive
then it comes shiny pets
thats allat to read
oh lmao i assumed we were all using the rock when talking about plant speed idk what mine is without it on tbh
i still cant understand what you just said
someone please explain it like explaining to a 5y
rock makes plants grow faster when turned on rock turned off they dont grow as fast
thats what he said lol
so how is 2.8 insta gaming?
i got no idea lol but im not even close to that so i dont have any reason to question it
ill find out if its true or not when i get there lol. thats how i look at it
Why give me that reaction when those are my first two chests in Justice?!
is there some way to increase the chance of getting a specific plant in gaming (chemical to be exact)
i dont think so lol
besides making plants grow faster
not going for equinox dream yet, just want some fast progress thats all
yeah its gonna take some time then
hey sorry for bothering but what is this rift guy, features of W7 ? or i can find him somewhere (i didn't find him in the rift)
3 more and im free
placeholder marking the finish line with schematics
12.2mins with the rock rn
itll probably show up when w7 gets released
how can i inrease speed then, beside rock and fertilizer upgrade?
oh
okay thanks
I highly suggest you buy 1 more sprout
Getting 15/16 is like mathematically 16x easier than getting 15/15
Trust me it's worth the gems
You should be farming 80ish gems a day from doing your daily 150 boss kills
Not doing them is just slacking your progression
+9 easy gems from alchemy
i dont kill bosses daily lol
+10ish From doot+hourglass
minibosses, esp doot, colo
lvl up gifts as passive income
Yeah my point is don't complain about lacking gems when you can reasonably farm 100+ a day
i can complain about whatever i want ๐
people who complain about lacking gems are literally timmy
timmy a real one
Don't be a timmy, be a grumblo instead 
You're gonna regret not having gems when the next event needs like 5000 gems to get the new fomo nametag
So start daily farming gems today trust
you think i can get to wave 121 for the rest of the prayers with these levels?
Easily
guess imma spend a few hours doing TD lol
I love td so yea that looks pretty good for 121
Shouldn't take long for 121 tho
As long as u have slow roast
It really starts to take time at 150
itll be lvl 14 after i go and put my point into it lol
lol welp its 14 now
Go do it RN, u can easily get 100+ on all
The more the merrier
NEGLECTED
oh danm got 60 lvls in my refinery thats another cloud done
Hey everyone, what does leveling Bolaia in The Cavern do? Just more study rate or anything else?
Right now
oh fuck yeah its the metal detector this one is hot
Pls just do ur td
Do u know how effective is jawbreaker
And u can easily pass that
my brother in lava thats exactly what im about to do why are you freaking out so bad lol
Actually it should be easy to get 400 a day without even farming
i dont cuz i dont have that prayer lmao
Because it has been weeks
mhm thats normal
I'm trynna get to 200 on all of em but it requires ATLEAST 120 tower lvls
Timegated by gambit and gaming
im only doing the TD so i can get the prayers for my vman so he can get good samples on his prints lol i genuinely hate TD it sucks the biggest load
I wonder why i find it fun 
hey its good you find it fun lol
I just hate the waiting part, otherwise it's really fun
Cuz it takes hrs once u get to wave 150+
Which just sucks
now that right there is just ridiculous
Ain't no WAY I'm sitting here looking at my ANDROID screen for hrs
I wouldn't know because it crashes on me when I get to 100
td has its parts where its like hehe monsters go poof, its good in concept its just... you can basically be done setup by wave 30 and then have nothing else to do for hoursr lol
Do u have the hide dmg turned on?
I had the same issue for 4 months lmao
i really liked td when i first unlocked it
And i didn't even know about the hide dmg feature
Yea with the ribbons and meal bonuses
Cannoli pogging out
welp time to look up a video for these TD
dats a rookies game, come play gambit
have you get that cavern 14 in the caverns yet?
How are you getting 400 a day
Idk My AFK gains drop gem everyday so I just collect from them
Unless you haven't put anything in that alchemy bubble I don't see how you can't get at least 200 a day without farming
you get ~120-140 gems per day
Do String types always give their bonuses?
Yup
ye they always active
Thank you ๐
i got to wave 140 on the goblin totem imma just delete my towers and let them run through cuz this is starting to feel like dogshit
Yeah, lol, some people just let it run overnight to see how far it can get.
welp got to wave 120 on the wakawaka totem i might push it to wave 140 idk we'll see
fellas, es or vman buffed sb for pop obol farming at giga frogs
no i mean sb with flag buff from vman
Yeah, yeah, I reread it after I posted.
oh is it still es ?
Yes
damn what does active sb even do except for the plunderous kills
nothing beside that
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that guy has the best class leveling up potential yet there is nothing else to do
1 active slot and almost every other class make better use of it for their on reason
One mob every ~10 seconds that awards nominally better class exp.
"best class leveling up potential"
That 9740% exp? It's additive.
That means for that one mob, this becomes 2446x
1 crystal will give so much more than plunderous mobs lol
And imagine if u could mix them 3 in one single monstruosity
Lmao fml I forgot about the placement rule for silver stopwatches. Just reduced my daily reset by 30m and then increased it by 30m.
im on wave 120 for the acorn assault might get it to wave 140 just so its the same wave as the other ones before i end the run. after this totem though, i just gotta get to wave 121 on the w3 totem for that prayer then ill been done with TD for another month lol
i was afk for like 5 minutes and im still not done killing the wave 140 boss lmao
hold on if i want both killcounts and better loot i can use sb right
If you're going for the achievement, go for it. That's what I did.
im not following, which achievement ?
What other kill count were you talking about?
oh yea that one i forgot
i was like es is good at looting but the wormhole kills wont count towards deathnote, and dk is good at killcounts but not looting
looting here is smth like pop obol, where its on the front page but has low droprate
so my conclusion was sb can do bott, ofc not as good as those 2 but since it only takes 1 slot its worth it
ES is good for first page farming, DK is for after (rare ultra rare)
yea i was thinking about farming both kills and first page items
If you're worried about death note, you would farm kills on your BB/DB.
DK is the best thing in the game tho let's be honest
k i give up i have no copium left for sb
Do whatever you want. You asked our opinions and we gave them to you, but it's still up to you. It's your account and your life.
i mean i wanted to cope with finding a best use for sb, since hes good at leveling up
so like there should be something you can do with that right
Didn't mirai just say that exp is additive??
i did read that but i forgot to interpret it
so uh is it a bad thing
That sounded meaner than I wanted it to, I meant more like "but that's already been disproven?"
So use your SB. What else do you want me to say? If you're looking for affirmations for all of your decisions, talk to a dog.
nah ill accept my fate and seal sb in lab
Wait til div jail
i already have the 5th god so everyone is vaccum sealed in lab atm
How do have only 1900 within lvl 90 towers
Mmmmm
I never did that.
I sealed everyone in div the moment I unlocked it til arctis
Then I unlocked maps with everyone
Is the pocket divinity trait from the conjurer in the village active for all characters?
i got lucky with the 1% sacrifice
And after quite a bit of progress I went back with everyone, and got all the way to the... 7th god? Purrmep (I got 2 of the 1% ones which was INSANE)
And since then I haven't done div or lab
hit the lottery lol
I've gotten 6 or possibly more around 1% chances in idleon
2 events (the nametags, at like 1.5%)
The last 2 gaming mutations
im assuming with div you should go for the 7th or 8th god, whichever isnt the placeholder god, but what about lab ? at what level is enough
And the div things
I have no idea... I have hardly done lab and div
I know that with doot, everyone but purrmep works
But doot isn't very early, and you're gonna wanna unlock every god for god ranks eventually as well
2100 total lab level is the goal for lab to get the three gems from stealth, but that can come later. Additionally, it's recommended to get lab level 440 for AC for the crit talent.
yea for me doot is taking a while to spawn lol
Spawn???
its not gambling i know that rate is 0%
You can see the rate
2100 spread out for 10 players, with the bubo at 440 for ac ?
Even for me it's like 0.8% chance or smth and it's so painful
i do not trust the gacha rate
If you can't trust that, what can you? It's true
It's REALLY stupid - I got 5 sheepie before I got 1 molti
But it's real
yea but it is weekly so it will take forever
Exactly
The final treat gives doot 100% of the time after 200 tries
But that's 200 weeks, so everyone gets doot before the guarantee
200 weeks ๐ญ
bro thats 4 whole years
Also, if you get there, the earlier ones are unobtainable I think
Or, at least the first ones (the first 4 the grey name ones)
And that's bad because I'm missing one of them, the slime I think it is for arcade golden balls
wait but if i dont spend money on the game will i be able to buy treats
whats four more years
"What will you have in 4 whole years?!" "I'll have doot"
its beautiful
The reference?
yes
3 years 46 weeks
Yummy reference
imagine my park 4 years later with 200 frogs
Nobody uses weeks! Unless it's 1-3!
You wouldn't even have that cause with the final treat you couldn't get it I don't think
You'd have like sheeps bored beans and moltis
wot
I got mine with free pulls
At 18 weeks
im stunlocked at 2:30am i thought everything in the legacy set is obtainable ?
With the final
And also at 22 weeks
Treat tier
good for you man
You can't get the first 4 pets I believe
i said with a brick in my hand
I could hear the brick
damn i didnt even know i thought they're all obtainable
I just like to watch the world burn some times like; ooh neet fire 
tbh whats the worse thing can happen without doot
You can
didnt tusk just said the treat tier is unobtainable without spending
But if you where to get to treat lvl 5 and not have gotten the commens they become unobtainable unless someone gives it to you
At final tier treat commen has 0% odds
ok the 2:30am lack of sleep is hitting like a truck rn i finally understood
yea its 200 tries there is no way i cant get all of them
That usally hits me at 4am 
Seen people get doot like with in 10 off pity doot (200pulls)
is rerolling a thing in this game ?
or is it not allowed
Your roll rerolling no
no like make a new account to use the free rolls, until you get your desired item
And if you where able to do so it be a bannable offence
yea that makes sense
Would be an exploit
it is common in gacha games so i had to ask
good to know its not allowed
Understandable
Finally reached W5 but now i wonder once again how i can get EVEN MORE accuracy even tough my damage is starting to lack a bit my accuracy is even more
Yeah but aclhemy is too expensive and printing takes too long
use candy :c
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follow the teaching of the pinching bot then 
This must not apply to me cus this game still be giving me slimes
Nooooooo
yesh 
Then you havent done 38+pulls
Wym
welp im on wave 120 on the clash of cans totem imma try to get to wave 140 but idk if i will be able to lol these guys are quite a bit harder than the previous totems
What's ur towers lvls at?
This
Just reminded me to get mines to 115-120
your towers? or your TD?
Towers
welp i made it past wave 130 lol time to get past wave 140 to make things even
gonna say it now, i hate star signs with a passion
Same here
Which is why w5 and w3 are never getting done
Don't worry, Lava got significantly lazier with designing the star challenge as the worlds released. You can finish W6 in like an hour, lol
it better be worth it xD
I did em in like 20m
Does finishing mean reaching the boss ? How ?
I am struggling to get enough accuracy
welp i am definitely making it past wave 140 but these mfers are taking way too much damage so as per usual imma trash all my towers after i pass 140
Wut. We're talking about constellation challenges.
Oh ok
Sorry
Lol it's fine
When I said 1 hour, that assumes you already have all the challenge maps open.
how many keys do you guys get an hour from activing at worms im just curious if 18 an hour is good thats what i get on my dk
defuq is this
There's a mega crit star talent from dungeons
if you have a crit chance over 100 then it mega crits so if you have 113% crit chance you have 13% chance to mega crit
Your crit chance needs to be above 100%
No idea. I have 18k keys is all I know.
You didn't have this? ๐ค
nah x
xD didnt wanna get lvl 100
for the reason of getting 4x lvl 96 and 4x lvl 4
shit is rigged
Bla bla bla retirement what bonuses should i go for
So i decided to start killing these w4 aboms today....is there a good spot for ww to sit at for the giant worm
Lmao yeah I've gotten 96 5 times but no 100
SOMEONE RESPOND THIS IS URGENT
hi
does craftin items past avil tab 4 not require refinery salts
lmao no clue im on tab 4 too
no for armor and weapons and tools i dont care about storage bags
ayyyyy got another eldritch one more from that island and i can move all my guys to the 2nd last island and get those eldritch
Salt
whats the bravery max hours cutoff?
999,999? No clue.
24k is the last bonus.
Looks like the marble trap and marble worship skull require salt, but none of the armor does.
thank you
endgame is in the home stretch!
tadah time to send all these goblins to the other island
Is there a way I can get low tier dungeon weapons for slab if I got my "minimum tier" past it?
I unlocked the Fury Relic Island do I now just spam it till I get the Eldritch Version of it?
i want to get p mush elimination on db but every time i try to get it it says "all targets must be alive when entering the map" i tried leaving this map for a while, from ~half a minute to even 5 mins, tried cloudsaving and coming back after and it always says the same thing idk what i can do now
im pretty sure that all targets are alive when im entering that map...
ok now for some reason it worked? even though i didnt do anything more than just leave map, wait, come back again?
Stay in the map kill them all way for then to respawn leave and reenter I had the same problem it worked for me
Sometimes you need to sit on the map itself for a few seconds before starting
ok ty ill remember if i have this problem in the future, for now it fixed itself
Assuming you have Eldritch unlocked, yes
finally got this bubble to 240 now i can pump n dump these statues
is this thing with db and colo a bug or a feature? will it be fixed? im talking about forcing enemies to spawn on a specific platform
bug/feature. Fixed? Doubt it. Does the dev know about it? Yes. Have the mods given their OK for it to be used? Yes
yay, so i dont have to worry about it being removed, ima abuse these poor rice cakes now for some more lvls
hell yeah
wdym?
you can click colo/boss room, then use gravestone and all enemies spawned by it will spawn on one platform so you dont have to run that much to get them
i usually get maybe 70 gravestone score and with this i got to almost 300 on ricecakes
ok maybe not 70 now bc i booked that talent, make it a 100 prob
ricecakes is an ez 800 for me 
try out the swap tech if you haven't already, might help
the colo tech for db wont be fixed as it would break to many other good map for db progression
wdym by that?
also how do i fix it if db placed gravestone somewhere else while i wasnt looking? do i really have to wait a few mins?
yeah
oh, i wasnt farming bones, i just wanted more lvls now that ive booked his talents
oh. lol then head to samurais, you can gravestone the emperor flag anyways
in wraith im still in w3 getting closer to w4
haha no, the furthest map i got to is lanterns and db got past trolls rn
so w5 boss is free with that?
it won't get healed
you dont enter the fight, you just stay on the map where door is located and there you can force moles to spawn on one platform, idk which one though havent tried it there
but its not a strat for boss/colo fights bc you dont even start these fights just click colo and use grave
I'm not getting how the bug works, is there a youtube video?
everything now spawns where i am
so u get the loot but not the points or chests
saw it in idlemanezed vid i think thats what his channel is called?
im not even doing colo
i just place grave inside colo and it forces enemies from grave to spawn on one platform so i can get a lot more active kills
it's for bones in DB wraith form mode
okok
and can be for xp if you want
that'll confuse him more

nice, when I get my w2 wraith to w6 I'll know jaja
it's doable in w5 in many areas, and probably in many areas before then
i think it should be doable on any map where a colo/boss is located, no?
nono, I got it, it's just that I thought you spawned the mobs which spawn on the colloseum by using you'r tickets but not realy entering somehow
yes, but also many maps with resource nodes. Like Mr Brightsides for instance
oh thats nice to know
so any trees/catching/other stuff counts?
oh, not all nodes count ig, tried on ladybugs on trolls map and it didnt work
I decided to re-enchant and go all-in on collectible chance "according to [your] handy visual guide." It's still 0% chance, just like I said it would be. The boost to collectible chance is negligeable at best, and I lost 40% of my study rate and 20% villager exp.
Do ~you~ even have all the collectibles?
U reset rosemerald to prove a point? 
James made it sound like I was a fool not to.
All that study rate 
I can re-enchant and get it back easily enough.
I only reset on Sunday night and my enchant chance is already back down to where it was before.
I don't even wanna look at jars
Afraid of snakes being inside them?
That's a good excuse xD I'll use that
There's way too much going in in jars I got the collectibles I got and the enchantments I got and just never looked at them again
I just have it perpetually on collectible jar and then collect it in the morning and evening.
Do you think it's possible to get more? Did you miss a good one?
result:
It's probably rounding or something
Do I look like I have all collectibles
I was just pointing something out, of course it's still your decision which enchants you want to prioritize
Is divinities just luck or is their a way to get more points since for the fourth one it is over 3k for 100%
Wtf? 445?
it was a god run
got my final timmy ice cream with 1 life left somewhere in the 200s
extremely lucky
the result
whats efotd
Don't tell us I want to guess
eternal flames of te divine sorry
ummm
i did that quest at around 21.95 if it makes you feel better. Probably not the wisest but you know
1/3334 chance on sacrilegious kattlekruk so just whatever you think multiplies it enough to be good
alright thank you
Then why did you say it in such a smarmy way like you had such intimate knowledge of the subject that I, a plebian, wasn't privy to?
And yeah, I know it's a rounding display issue. It doesn't show any digits below 0.00%, so it just shows 0%
heeelloooo
did some cooking today with 400 ladles and my vmans talent got to 10b cooking spd now i think, its insane (yeah ik some people have it way higher but for me such a huge jump is something amazing lol)
and i need maybe 5 more meals to get all of them unlocked yayy
Nice!
Just wait until you complete the 100k ladles equinox challenge and then get to spend them.
Are divinities just luck or is their a way to get more points since for the fourth one it is over 3k for 100%
The only way to get points is meditating.
Hey man :p hehe that's amazing ๐คซ having cooking done early is really helpful
I just made my first set of emperors armor ๐
you able to get some prismatic bubbles yet?
nah, im not close to that dream yet and im getting only small amounts from miniboss so i prefer to spend them for now
i got maybe 2 bubbles to prisma?
and i think it was from event
I'd maybe recommend prisma-ing the Larrryyy bubble and then diamond chef if you haven't already
my ac sucks on so many lvls that i wont be able to progress him for a long time
i have larry prisma but not chef
that chef prisma is huge
also make sure your Vman's Blood Marrow talent is leveled well
Ac is hard xD
i mean, actually its just class lvl problem, then ill be able to at least get out of w1 lol
if not for the difficulty in progressing itd be maybe my fav masterclass
I was just pointing it out
Tbh the fight mechanics on it is amazing and the weapon progression is pretty decent
Why it's always I'm thinking about dog den for example today and today creator uploads this xD it was a premonition
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So, I'm sorry if I said it in a smarmy way. That was not my intention
I tend to focus all in when I'm trying for something, and I guess I was just curious of why you didn't
Also, the word choice of "handy visual guide" was kind of a joke
quick question about divinity should i unlock the first one on each character first or push the first character to a certain point
What
No, div gods/points are account wide
You'll want to unlock up to 3rd if you want to push quick, but 5th if you can wait because 5th one gives you div gains for being in lab
2nd one gives you lab without being in lab, and 3rd one is 2x kills so you can stack that and lab kill bonus on pusher
5th one you can get the lab kill bonus+div gains for more gods and put 3rd god on pusher
ooooh 2nd one is nice
i cant be bothered to put ppl there
And no, 2nd and 5th don't stack in case you were wondering. 5th requires you to be in lab while 2 makes you pretend to be in lab, sorta
so 5th is just multi
do you gain more if you arte in lab for divinity
or na its just multitasking type thing
That last artifact just wont show up ๐
I have all 10 characters on mantra, is that good or bad?
Bad. You want 10, 25, 40 > lab jail
So i get less exp even though everyone's on it?
25 lvl will give you 8exp 2div.
40 lvl give you 8 exp no div. But you can do other stuf... Like lab
Also you wana try unlocking goat.
Point is you got several jails in game. And as soon as you can finish with them or at least make them passive. The easier it gets
8 I thought it was 3?
Lab, div, and the monument jails.
Could be. I don't remember. Im on same stage now
Problem is when you unlock last prayer. Back to jail unlocking the rest of gods
Have you considered JArcing? 
Im using bear on everyone now+40 prayer. This way i get div xp. Lab bonuses if im takung char out of lab and nothing brakes
Jar Arc
The question is no more clarified with that response, lol.
Do you know how jars work? While the game is open vs when the game is closed?
I wouldn't blame you if you don't
No idea what jar is but please do tell
Caverns, C11
The jars don't combine past size 2 while active, but can combine to size 5 when the game is closed. Beyond that, no.
That is the jist of it yeah. You can go past T5 even
Idk what that means but I'll try to remember
For those curious.
Jar production is different when the game is open vs closed. When open, it is almost impossible to make anything bigger than a T2 Jar (I say almost because with enough speed you can make T3's while active, it's just unfeasible currently to do that with anything but basic jars). If you close the game however, you can make higher tier jars.
If you produce, say 100 of a particular jar per hour, you can turn the game off for 10hrs to make a T4 jar.
According to the wiki, it caps out at T4, so we're both wrong.
If you're at 0% visual we can assume the odds are under 0.01%, let's say 0.005% for this example. I can turn the game off for ~31.3hrs to produce three T5 Ornate Jars (10,000/319), it's three because each slot is calculated individually on the afk collect. That would give me three 50% chances at a new collectible.
Where does it say that on the wiki?
In any case, I knew all of this information, and it's irrelevant to me because I'm actively farming ghosts atm for golden cakes. But thank you for trying to help.
No problem
If you ever want to finish off all the collectibles though, turning of the game (JArcing) is pretty much yer only option.
Or push enchants
Nah, got my previous three collectibles from gradually collecting T2 jars while active.
Waaaait, you've got all the collectibles?
I realize it gets rarer, but not impossible or my only option.
I'm down to my last three.
Ah, nice. I only have two left, but one of them is a W7 buff
Last time I pushed it was to get the last Jar speed collectible, there are 3
My last three to get.
I want to break 10M basic jars 
Earthbound Geode is my favorite collectible
It'd definitely be nice. But I'm willing to bet my next one will be Twilight Prism
whats the best way to get hampters also how do you know when to use your es dk and bubo for active farming
Use the ES when the drop is default from the mob you're fighting. Use DK when it's a drop from a crystal mob. And use Bubo/AC when you're working on the tesseract.
I suggest fighting the Tremor Wurms for hampsters with ES.
so what do i use for rare drop tables like the hampsters or recipes
ES
ok but i mean the normal ones from stilt moles does that change anytihn
Bubo/AC can be comparable with DK, it's also relying on crystal spawns and you get CC time, DK beats it on raw drops/cash though
Do you need the regular hampster?
I figured you meant golden.
yes its like all of the anvil 5 recipes
And no, that doesn't change anything. Still use ES.
Rule of thumb: If it's on the first page of a card when you click the mob's card, use ES. If the drop required you to click the Rare Drop bag, use DK. If you're wanting to multitask, use Bubo/AC
Multitask as in working on alchemy.
The important thing to understand is crystals vs wormhole. The DR buff from wormhole is the strongest in the game, it's caveat is that it ONLY effects the wormhole mobs themselves. The DR buff from orb hits every mob on the map, including crystal mobs.
Bubo also functions off of crystal mobs, but not because it buffs DR, just from the sheer amount of crystal mobs it spawns.
Plus you get alchemy progress
And you get to see pink skulls, if pink is your favorite color.
Waiting for Lava to update vman's Enhancement Eclipse to turn AC's gasses arcane so we can have pink farts everywhere.
Should have my 100k golden cakes tomorrow. Finished with the pearler shells, and only need 110k more ghosts.

do i try to get more collectibles with only .45%? im missing important ones like monument afk or studyrate
Feel free to enchant some of those you have first.
But as Zebra said, go to sleep tonight and you'll probably get a couple collectibles when you wake up even with 0.45%
How significant is using an elemental bow over a dust bow for windwalker? I'm already using a 3/3 elemental ring
Pretty significant if you're farming dust. Also pretty significant if you're fighting an abom.
Dang ok guess I'll bother farming a new bow for pushing tremor worm abom then
dust farming you go dust bow + 2 dust ring, or 1 dust ring + elem/dmg ring, and abom is elem bow + 2 dmg ring
Abom is elemental bow + elemental ring + damage ring, no?
I think its double dmg ring, but could be wrong yeah
Back over 20k fragments. I'm ready for another emperor obol.
The map after moles does that reset or what since I was grinding that with V-man but once I did the speed run it locked the portal to it
Your kills with v-man resets to 2 million kills on all mobs after a speed run, but all portals that any of your other chrs have opened should then open for your v-man.
Oh ok
How much difference does a dust bow vs ele bow make for aboms
with doot do you even need people to be in the tubes to gain exp?
dust bow is for farming and ele bow is for boss killing
if you dont use an ele bow for that boss it will take forever
Yeah but how much is the damage difference. I'm 1/4 into killing a boss with a dust bow wondering if its worth to just quit and go farm a ele bow now instead
depends on how much youve upgraded your ele dmg multi but it tells you how much dmg it gives when it drops thats elemental and the elemental multi you have is multipling that dmg whiuch ends up being a LOT of dmg as long as youve been upgrading it
ele -> you get element of the abom, + dmg ring for more dmg
dust bow -> nothing but wp that the ele bow can also give
Dragon 
this is what i thought but still pains me yo know i dont want to do my lab grind the divinity grind is already so painful
Doot makes Lab and Divinity a piece of cake
Hmm if that's how the formula works, then an ele bow does 4x the damage of a dust bow?
Plus do it mainly for the buffs that are still locked
you have doot so no need to div jail, just need div lvl 2 on all char to get the gods bonus, then lab jail
I mean with the right element you kill way faster than a dust bow if you didn't have the ele ring
ES has a talent called Polytheism, does that mean that the idleon people originally are monotheistic?
Yeah but with a ele ring, a ele bow does 4x damage of a dust bow? That's still really good I should go bother making w5 ones now
dunno, but for abom killing you usually go ele bow + 2 dmg ring
anyway 
Its probably more than 4x, depending on your element multi on compass
Maybe even aetheists until w5 we might never know
Indeed
Lavaflame3 we need answers
I should go check my gaming
I have all superbits
where do i go confirming that I have all the artifacts at Ancient+ for the cheevo
Just check an artifact, I guess. You got all the edge bonus artifacts from jade emporium yet?
yep
i got all the other lanterns to Eldritch before I got the Winz lantern but got it to Ancient in the same set of chests
Show me
If it's an achievement, then it could proc at any time. Try leaving the map and re-entering or cloud saving.
upon going to do that I immediately realized i have the eye at normal because i have all the shiny pets at 1/1 already
Rift guy drop in the future content blog
is the play to always wait for the tithe?
Isnt it better to wait for offering
Unless you wanna gamble on 25% / 50% for faster ig
Offering is the gamble thing same as tithe
But instead of 25% like tithe offering is 100%
Wait no its actually called sacrifice im dumb
so you just bank all your divinity points until sacrifice is available? my div is <lv7 on all chars
at what lv is sacrifice?
Sacrifice is just available anytime. The offering (gamba mechanic) can be refreshed by buying either of the two
Of course the efficient one is the 1%โs so you can keep reroling for sacrifice / the 100%
ahhhh, I didn't know that
so you get 2 new choices whenever you try
had to try 3 times to get different choices on the 1% 16 olive branch, now have:
that sacrifice is gona take awhile lol
at 3div/hr/char
maybe I get a bit more with some modifiers
Yeah the thing with sacrifice is itโll take a while, upside you wont get gutted by rng 
66 hours with 8 chars going... so close to 3 days shrug I guess?
Me seeing this after I got to God rank 3
assuming they don't get more and more expensive (which they probably do), that means 24 days, or 3 1/2 weeks to get all 10 gods
but maybe I can up my div/hr, likely as they sit on pedestal they level div too
maybe some other sources of bonuses to shrink that time down
Sameโฆ. Div was a grind
Make sure to have them all at lvl 40 before taking them off too
the ratio for that 100% looks about the same as the 1% and the 25%. % per div that is
so not a huge penalty for waiting for 100% if you want to avoid RNG like you said
often they make higher odds more expensive ratio wise
but not in this case
if only it was only that short to get all
why's that?
yeah cost is the same % in the end
100 1% is same as 1 100%
Passive income of exp while you do other things
I guess you don't get much better div/hr and the cost for each god goes up significantly (as expected) eh?
Eventually youโll be cranking out a decent amount of div
sometimes you do increase it but eventually it goes very high yeah
I guess I got lucky on the gambas for the first 2 when I picked similar options to that 20% chance a few times
but ya I'd rather avoid RNG now that I know I can
thanks!
just spam left till 100% appear 
I deadass just spammed a bunch of 1% for the last 4 gods and got me from God rank 1-3 with the 2 consecutive 5% getting me there
well with the bubble spamming left is the way
think i should start claiming my guys....
did lava change the auto refine for refinerys?
Yeah, lava removed the auto refine % .
damn why
Main is more then that now @stray snow
Itโs not really needed.
very nice. i havent touched the game in like 2 weeks lol
I sent you a messaged bad old man @stray snow 2 days ago
lol my bad gang
That box the Lego came in was not light @stray snow
@faint wigeon bad old man alert
the jail is mostly to unlock purmeep and get divinity lv 40 then i can just lab jail them till there 75
if you have discovered everything then kill off your cloud discover ones as there useless unless lava adds more islands with the new update which i doubt
guys how do I get higher DR
how do i get rid of this click icon ? i know i can unlock the 3rd slot by beating pet arena 100 but im not there yet
Try clicking it
i clicked on the locked slot and the icon did not go away
just ignore it if you have sheepie otherwise grind out your pet arena
its just a bit annoying since it blocks the second bubble so i cant see what is being equipped
its an annoying bug that never got fixed because sheepie makes that system obsolete anyway >.>
ig ill just live with it
if it makes you feel better i have 3 sheepies and i could give you one
nah its fine
ill just push pet arena and problem solved
aight
ehh lab 75 isn't really a goal, unless you're a whale and like to gamba chips from gemstore, because lab 75 is for all chip slot and you won't get enough to even fill half the slot of one char
is just lab till you feel comfortable to get all bonus connected to + div 50 then holej ail
me having tradable sheepies wasnt a indicater of me being a psediou whale?
๐คทโโ๏ธ
Having any tradeable pet means u have paied once
But not paying much isnt a whale
well I have tradeable pets, and green gems, but I never paid for a pack that gives green gems, or for green gems directly 
I mean paying much is a whale
that was what i was getting at im kind of a whale for this game so >.>
Ur a whale
WAT
Big ๐ณ
dunno who you talking about but it's definitely not me ๐
-# just bought only autoloot + sacred methods.. tho autoloot is already (baby) whale enough 
id say autoloot and sacred methods pack is more kind of bar of entry thing so not really whale
-# sacred methods smh

@faint wigeon @stray snow main now
Finally got access to Multitool stamp
Upgrade to lv 300
Exalt it
what does this " ! " meaning?
It has a lower bonus than the highest character's bonus
so this bonus cant stack with same class character?
Yes.
ok thank you for help
It's just op for efficiency
IDK how it's just OP for efficiency
Base eff is good, cause most bonuses are %eff
Scaling is good
Works for all skills requiring eff
I do have 400 All Skill Eff
Lvl it up 
I can't!
I don't have any of those fairies and my insta-prints skill is on cooldown for 17k seconds!
Then waiting
And according to Efficiency, it is literally impossible to level it up to 300 - I can only level it up to 100
Ok enough
Yeah, Level 300 is way too much
Just in case, chance to get them scales from total stamp lvl
Therefore I'd recommend just lvlup all stamps as much as u can
Reasonably can*
what's the entire concept of justice?
i think after Case #70 you get better rewars. 'survive' as long as you can
ice cream is achievement, have to feed 3 ice cream + one more dialogue, very difficult to complete, almost waste of coins
doing monument AFK at Monument Of Justice helps a lot
cheat sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KOfrmDPKd7brbkh_Dt2WRvLeA_oxX2EZDpkxP5fKxt0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
imagine
but simply being good at rng is how I get by
The recipe is 1 in 50m no dr tho
okay yes, what are you trying to say
Everyone is unlucky
not me, evidently 
I just used 12hr worth of candys for each recipe
is crystal steak multiplicative or additive total damage?
Are the last plant evolutions even real? I've been like this for several MONTHS and I still haven't unlocked a single one
I just want finish gaming once and for all
When I did that I had 1 guy on there afk for 1 week straight, doing 100m kills for 100% drop, then one day I accidentally left my DK there for 1 hour and got it ๐ was like sweet ill take my char back now
RNG be a most cruel mistress at times...
I got all of ym bad rng on runescape and had a ton of good rng karma for idleon ๐
I wish I could harvest all while also getting the chem plants
Dear W5, how can i improve Villager EXP?
more opals, take more villager exp from monuments, measurer, have conjuror boost these 2 from one of his bonuses, also 1st blue, and uhh more opal
dragon statues to pimp your villager statues
i have everywhere 10 Opals and maxed blue atm but im still needing weeks and im stuck in cave 8
show conjuror bonus
also you're saying every villager has 10 opals?
atp I'd just put all opals in one single villager 
dear lord
oh my

so uh, if and when you can I'd advise you to reset conjuror bonus, and if you don't have doot max 1st green, max 1st blue (only exp bonus you wanna get, other 2 aren't that good), then a bit of string from red, then max 4th blue, then 1st red
If i max green after reset, dont i get less exp than maxing blue first?
huh
I'm not telling you to max all green
but only first one (pocket div) so you can link more god (2 in total)
Ah sorry, language barrier
oh no worries 
are these plants going to evolve any more? i have had them for weeks and haven't evolved yet :/
just click em
they don't evolve more?
Badumdum 
Doktortor ๐
just gotta get this pet high enough to get the next one and ill have all the pets for breeding
if you click the log book itll show you how many mutations youve found for them. in the mutation tab you can see how many evolutions your plants can go through
it says it can evolve 4 times and in the log book i only have 3 different of each kind, but they don't seem to be evolving :/
more evo you get, rarer next one is
you'd need more speed to have more chance at it so just click things and upgrade other things
there we go finally got all the artifacts for sailing eldritch minimum time so go back to getting them sovereign
In the Caverns last place The Temple i cant for the life on me hit any of the Ancient golems cuz i miss all the time,
Any suggestions what im doing wrong?
not enough acc, need 500m for 5% chance to hit iirc
aah
thats insane
1.5b for 100% 
do you really want me to post my acc right now XD
go for it 
imma report that message for being a hate crime cuz thats the only thing i can think it could be
i think my highest accuracy is on my vman and hes like maybe a tiny bit above 500m
its still smoll compared to a myth like Follkey XD
i finally got all my guys a sneaking veil over lvl 100 now imma put them all on the first floor to get them much better smoke bombs lol
Get 1500M accuray
as far i could go with the knowledge i have in the game i could get 716m Accuracy so i kinda getting some hits n kills
how fast?
How fast are your progession
It took me months to get there and I got more acc by the time I got there
since the release of cavern it have taken me a long time,
i havent really put ALOT of time and energy into the caverns
Beefy for real
Just got my last jar collectible in the hole. Now that I can re-enchant them all, what is the one that should be highlighted? Just do enchant chance ones?
by last one you mean that you got all collectibles of tab1, or all of tab1 & tab2?
Villagerexp
monument afk, study rate, and mayhance villager exp if you need any
Both
Theres a tab 2? 
oh damn gz
Thanks. The last 3-4 were 0.0% chance so I definitely wasn't expecting it this morning. Gotta get them big jars.
Just now?
:/
divinity seems rl slow and i dont want to take my chars out of lab
ik i could at least wait for the bear god but
im too lazy
๐
the longer you drag it out the longer itll take to get out of div jail lol theres no escape
but getting arctis and other god is that worth
eventually youll get the goat god which'll mean you can put your guys back in the lab and get both lab xp and div xp
how long does it usually take to get the goat god?
i honestly dont remember
can take a few days if you're extremely lucky, otherwise I'd say around 2 weeks 
you should get arctis very fast though so the hwole bonus you're getting from the lab by having them all in there wont be gone for very long at all
also remember that you can upgrade the gods by clicking on their icons
oh alr
wait what
them blessings
lol yeah upgrading them helps a whole lot
hm alr
Thats the thingy people give you after you sneeze right?
cost bits/atom/coins depending on the god
mayhance
ok ok
some gods cost different things some are coins some are bits some are atoms some are gold bars i think
sailing gold too 
been too long XD
Sailong
cheer up now you get to have a break from the game xD i strive for that but i always got something to do ๐
lol
get arctis and you'll get them back anyway
Actris the goat
be sure to buy the offering on the left until you see a 100 percent then save up for that and get it, gambling on getting new gods is very depressing
what exactly does arctis do?
your char pretend to be connected to lab
ohh alr
so lab node are back on
that seems very useful
just a bit
ok div seems better now
-# mayhance the reason we say to do div now
lol
ive just remmered that my idleon account is linked to a nonexisting email
and that i cant make an email with that adress apparantyl
are you on mobile?
im ngl i dont remember linking idleon to an email, i linked it through steam im pretty sure to use IT
i used web so i had to link it with an email
but i accidentaly put an underscore
and gmail doesnt allow underscores in its emails
didnt know thered be no email verification lol
Th great pretender
so what exactly do you lose out on by what you did?
PEAK MENTIONNED
oh fuck i got my 14th chem plant just need 1 more for that equinox cloud
you should, animation is peak, story is great, and they are pretender

shit equinox exists
im ignoring too many things

going for 25
making up for that snail mail easy

