lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[onyx echo]

is the suggma recipe drop bugged?
ive killed like 400 million and havent gotten a recipe drop

maybe its just bad luck

[dire cedar]

i do not know how lava coded the pong game but by the love of god how the fuck did he do it? i mean jsust fuck pong was the first game ever and it runs like shit

[simple wadi]

How many royals urns have you gotten?

[dire cedar]

i need to get 4k more seesaw statues to onyx it

[solar sphinx]

how do i start producing the other colors? only getting white now

i'm pretty clueless

[simple wadi]

The color changes when you pass Q number of bits

[ionic trail]

Okay lmao wtf

[solar sphinx]

oh i've got a long way to go then

[stable parrot]

Every pow 18 or something

It’s on wiki

[ionic trail]

@simple wadi a 37/36 % artifact find chance elder captain

[simple wadi]

Is that what it says? I'm illiterate.

[ionic trail]

haha yes! and yesterday I had another one pretty insane too but not that good

31/28 !

[simple wadi]

And?

Loot value > everything else

[ionic trail]

For now, I aim at Artifacts chance until I finish it

[simple wadi]

It's not worth it

[ionic trail]

I only got a few left but when it's complete I'll move all to full loot value

Yes because I had shitty one with cloud discovery still lol

[simple wadi]

The later artifacts will have <0.3% no matter how much artifact chance you get.

You're better off focusing on loot value to upgrade your boats.

[carmine frigate]

is this enough damage for nightmare kattlekruk

[bleak gazelle]

i mean if he's replacing a non-ender arti/arti then it's fine

or any non-ender non-loot captain

[sleek dagger]

wait really? i thought speed is the most valuable but probably only in early game

so i dont have to wait days for one trip but just 2hrs

[mighty parcel]

Me too but mainly because I'm mobile only it crashes when ever I get past 175

[simple wadi]

Yeah early game speed is pretty important. But as trips start taking less than 10 hours, loot value becomes more important.

[sleek dagger]

but i need to get to all islands first i guess

and im not even exploring the fury one

one more i think

[simple wadi]

Upgrading your boats will help with that.

[sleek dagger]

yeah, im buying boats/captains>upgrading spd>upgrading loot value

[mighty parcel]

I got the all first I used the the bottles I got from the piggie in the boat I believe he gave me like 10 per character

[sleek dagger]

i dont think ive completed a single quest (other than main ones) after w3

[mighty parcel]

Had all done in the same day but that do require you to have a high divinity

[sleek dagger]

its just that some quests annoy me so much that i say to myself "ok im done with this" and forget about them (mainly the ones where you need to talk to people lol)

[mighty parcel]

Yea I still have a lot I haven't done i just green stacked the bones from world 1 not to long ago because I only did the quest line once.. and yes my key counts are very low for world 1 and 2

[sleek dagger]

btw 1050m is the stack limit right? i set my atom collider to 1050m now bc i need more resources for alchemy and im almost at 400m oak :0

[sleek dagger]

man i love printing

[mighty parcel]

How high are your samples

[sleek dagger]

probably almost getting to 2m

with 6x bonus

[bleak gazelle]

you can technically go above 1050m as long as you don't change maps/cloudsave/printer proc
this is useful later down the line if you want to sweat a bunch of levels

[sleek dagger]

so 2m, x2 slots, x6 bc of bonus, 24m/hr :0

[sleek dagger]

"later down the line" yeah im not there yet lol

and probably wont be for some time

for now im just happy i finally dont have any shortage of ores

i mean void and better ones still not greenstacked but ill get them soon

yesterday i got to wave i think 50+ on acorns and im proud of myself bc i suck at this even with a tutorial but it got pretty nice once i managed to survive the start

[dire cedar]

just popped like 7 12 hour candies now i got enough statues to onyx my seesaw statues time to put this shithead back in the lab and swap to my dk for w5 statue farms

i had enough of seeing my es farm cryosnakes lol the dk is much more elegant in his killings

[sleek dagger]

how dare you speak like that about my es, i love him and id love him more with autoloot but hes still really nice imo

do you guys know how much speed is needed to reach each island in sailing? im specifically interested in 9 ofc

my best boat is 27k speed

[bleak gazelle]

?wiki Sailing

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Sailing

[bleak gazelle]

Easiest to just use IE (imo, IT has it too), it'll give you a nice breakdown like so which factors in your minimum sailing time (in-game UI can only display 2 hours as minimum, even though your actual can be lower)

[sleek dagger]

ok thx thats what i wanted

[onyx echo]

well rn i have 281 million but idk how many ive had or how kany i got in the moment

[simple wadi]

These are royal urns. If you have 281 million of them, you really are bugged out in multiple ways.

[carmine frigate]

guys do you think my dk is ready for nightmare kattlekruk

[still apex]

I think your dk is cursed

[fallow aurora]

More than ready

[earnest token]

What is the strategy for gambit ? Full spam or the more you use unit, the higher the cost ?

[hollow bison]

Cost is based on time, yeah you pretty much just spam unless queen

[echo crag]

full spam unless its the you hurt me i hurt you one

[earnest token]

Ok thanks, let's go for 20/25 min of spam x)

[sleek dagger]

do smoke bombs in sneaking stack with each other? what if i give everyone a bomb and put them on one floor?

[still apex]

Do you not stack seeing red in gambit? I haven't done it in months

[echo crag]

you do on most yes

[serene horizon]

what prayers should i have on for portal pushing on dk

[nocturne patrol]

u can try to tempo with sparkle in the end on gambit too

[earnest token]

Nvm i'm not that strong yet, 15 min was already hard with 1 hp

[sleek dagger]

• do i need kunais if i untied all 10 chars already?

or can i just free some inventory slots

[sleek dagger]

ok so thanks, and what about this?

[simple wadi]

They do stack.

[sleek dagger]

im thinking if its worth it to farm some bombs

[simple wadi]

You could test it out pretty quickly.

[sleek dagger]

i have like 3 and theyre low lvl and my guys cant push further rn

[sleek dagger]

ok thats nice

[rose glade]

idk how people get so many chests n shit, im following the guide and everything but it just keeps sacking me so much

[simple wadi]

Are you at 24k hours in justice?

[rose glade]

nah not yet

[simple wadi]

That's why

[rose glade]

yall want some pop xD

[earnest token]

Yeah i was 10k and wondering too how they got that much chest + cases. And when i hit 24k, i understood x)

[carmine frigate]

what no

only his hands are cursed

[simple wadi]

Silk veil + Rosarie if you can will lead to more stealth than smoke bomb.

[sleek dagger]

on which floors is it? i can survive on 8 max

[earnest token]

Does lotus + rosaries better ?

[simple wadi]

Silk veil is on 5, roasarie on 10

[earnest token]

Bruh

I'm mastery 3 with this x)

[sleek dagger]

ok so floor 5 farming then, thank you

[rose glade]

ok better but xD

[simple wadi]

I keep lotus on two chrs and the rest with veil + rosarie

[nocturne patrol]

i was at 35DR wat happen uwu

[earnest token]

Thanks, that's prob why i'm hard stuck

[simple wadi]

You can also work on gambit, emperor, and lamp to get more stealth.

[earnest token]

I'm doing fractal RN for the 2% per lvl

[nocturne patrol]

wat happen now i have 32 and i touch nothing

Ty lava for steal my DR

just a bug i guess xd

[alpine rune]

[earnest token]

If i kill 1000 with the orb, and switch map, does i still get my 1000 kills and it continue to scale, or i need the orb to be physicaly on the map ? (and have the 1000 killcount shown)

[nocturne patrol]

orb reset each time

[earnest token]

"Always works while buff active, even if it visually doesn't appear on the map. Though score resets when you switch maps. That way, you can, for example, complete Colloseums without waiting for the Talent's cooldown to reset."
My bad, it was on the wiki

[whole vale]

just unlocked the studies at the Hole, what should i study first?

[nocturne patrol]

u can go for 1 on everything and 7 or 8 on bravery

and dont forget schematic for studie rate

[onyx echo]

oh
my bad not those 😭

[simple wadi]

I'm enjoying this five hour long conversation with you.

[sleek dagger]

perfect.

[simple wadi]

Need to farm up some of these

[sleek dagger]

im never getting these ones probably

ive done every single random event or whatever its called and never got anything valuable

[simple wadi]

Hey welcome to the club. We meet ontop of random events and cry together.

[nocturne patrol]

uwu

when 4 sparkle, ik

[simple wadi]

[sleek dagger]

same, im still somewhere around 3k+ i think

[nocturne patrol]

u never get 1, really ?

[sleek dagger]

didnt know its so rare...

[simple wadi]

Nope

[nocturne patrol]

i get the two back to back

[simple wadi]

@trail ore you may have won this battle, ma'dam, but mark my words - I will win the war!

[earnest token]

Wow, i never use my villager statues cause i was waiting to finish more vials and lvl up statues bubble. And i went from 70M to 550M villager xp 😱

Btw, i have done this for every statues, i was imagining that statues were useless x). I change my mind

Just put 29M statues

[simple wadi]

Just wait until you get dragon statues.

[earnest token]

Yeah in 6 days

I have done my print this morning

[sleek dagger]

what does it mean if my samples keep switching between golden and purple? is it a bug or smth?

[earnest token]

You have doot ?

[sleek dagger]

nope

[earnest token]

Without doot, this one is not active on every chars so your print are jumping from x4 to x3 when you don't have your char on lab

[sleek dagger]

but it worked normally till today so idk

[analog pike]

what's a good point to stop for conj and go to study?

[bleak gazelle]

i'm sorry, i stole them all

don't click on the right picture

[rustic sleet]

Is it normal that since the beginning of the game I never got 1 single dogmeo magnus card? [W5 miniboss]

[earnest token]

Bruh what is this horrible obols on the left

[sleek dagger]

ah yes, worship with dr, idk what youre cooking

[bleak gazelle]

have you killed him?
are you stacking orb when you kill him?

[earnest token]

Fix it 😂

[bleak gazelle]

too lazy to farm more pops

[sleek dagger]

your goals are beyond my understanding i might say

[bleak gazelle]

maybe i should give them to this guy

[earnest token]

I can't deny it, i only have 3 complet set of pop obols x)

[rustic sleet]

No fr i have killed it maybe 80 or 90 times overrall

[earnest token]

Yeah i think you are way beyond me, when i see 250k gold food and 100k 2 times when i still haven't finish those last beanstack. I should rename to early w6

[bleak gazelle]

how high can you stack orb when killing it?

[rustic sleet]

Huh?

[sleek dagger]

nice to meet you, im early w4

[bleak gazelle]

For W2-6 minibosses (except doot), you should be killing them on DK
stack your orb with kills on the minimap before killing it
here's the strat for domeo #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[rustic sleet]

Ah

Never done that tbf

[polar kiln]

Um is it possible to have -opals...? I just earned two from hounds and still have 0

[sleek dagger]

so what about doot? i can kill it on anyone or on a specific other char?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, cloudsave usually fixes it

[sleek dagger]

bc ive been fighting him on dk

[polar kiln]

Tnx

[sleek dagger]

ok i was kinda scared you might say i need other char and i killed him ~50 times in one day not that long ago

[polar kiln]

Its a long grind for conjuror

[potent ether]

is the giant nightshade even worth using after getting kattlekruk wings?

[bleak gazelle]

nightshade was only ever worth using if you had nothing else

[sleek dagger]

is it possible to unlock sovereign relics without unlocking eldritch?

bc id rather do some sneaking than rift tbh

[potent ether]

nuh

[sleek dagger]

ugh this rift is gonna get me sooner rather than later

[vapid cove]

It's better probably sooner because those bonuses will boost you so much

[sleek dagger]

maybe ill try tomorrow

i know there are some op things in the rift but i dont like it so i was neglecting it

[potent ether]

considering lava changed the only thing you actually had to actively farm out in rift... it really shouldnt be too big of an issue

[vapid cove]

Oh yeah I noticed the lava skulls was way easier

That had me just not wanting to do rift

I did it on both seige breaker and wind walker probably bubo for that one that was 3 people needed to make a lava skull

[bleak gazelle]

rip lava skull guide 2025-2025
https://imgur.com/JDm1oPW.png

[void shell]

He made it even more active lol

Lava skull took like 4-5 minutes per char while skull points can take hours

[potent ether]

lava skull did NOT take 5 minutes 😭 last one took me 45 mins because of rng, which was the frustrating part about it

[void shell]

Then you didn't do it right

[vapid cove]

Nah lava skulls were annoying as heck I passed through skull points pretty easy

[fiery igloo]

Where should I put one point

[zinc torrent]

Maxing them reds

[light charm]

Damn I just let my shit sit for an hour to get lava skulls or I was progressing each color skull till the tier before lava skulls

It got easier

Wish I got to experience the skull points tho

[bleak gazelle]

the skull point challenges existed before the change. he just made the lava skull specific ones also skull point challenges

[vivid turret]

So I have a question, if I put ES on Mantra in divinity does the talent Shared Beliefs affect the XP other characters are given? Since if so it means the talent affects each char twice

[faint wigeon]

max 2nd red, 4th blue, 1st red, then could go 3rd red for wish (might need to reset and remove some points from 2nd & 3rd blue, and 2nd green to distribute in those before)

like having 2 ES max that talent?

[vivid turret]

no

since this talent gives extra xp to all characters, but the mantra gives xp to other characters from another one

[faint wigeon]

no the talent boost the exp they gain

[vivid turret]

so does it give multiplied xp and the the other char recieves that xp and multiplies it again?

[faint wigeon]

so instead of gaining 1 xp per hour, they could gain 2 xp per hour

[faint wigeon]

something like that yeah idk

[vivid turret]

true, but this xp goes in 2 different chars

where is lava to clarify this

[bleak gazelle]

any exp modifiers that your ES has (or whoever has mantra) should affect XP that's given

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[vivid turret]

still doesnt answer the question

[bleak gazelle]

shared beliefs won't double dip because your other characters aren't actually "earning" xp, hence why it doesn't show up in the afk info/claim

[zinc torrent]

Still doesnt answer the question

[vivid turret]

this sentence could go both way imo

[cosmic karma]

whenever i let my bubo play actively on tremor worms, without me using its attacks, it doesn't use the respawn ability enough. ive put the respawn move on the first page of its attakcs in the first preference, but it still doesn't use it enough when im not actively using its attack's for it. how do i make sure its using the respawn ability at all times when it can

[simple wadi]

Show us your bars of abilities

[cosmic karma]

ok wait

[simple wadi]

There are certain abilities that prevent the use of other abilities if there are no enemies nearby

[cosmic karma]

ok wiat

[simple wadi]

I'm waiting as hard as I can

[cosmic karma]

lol

there

[simple wadi]

Take the third and fourth abilities off of your second bar. That's your culprit

[cosmic karma]

u mean the lightning and the potion ones?

[simple wadi]

Yes. The lightning in particular is one that can lock up your character.

[cosmic karma]

ok thanks

ill try and come back if there are problems

[simple wadi]

I would take off the 4th ability on your first bar as well. It's actually a net loss in damage, and always has been.

[cosmic karma]

ok thx

wait its working now thank you

[simple wadi]

Wait you're welcome

[unique wedge]

holy shit im free

[cosmic karma]

nice

[unique wedge]

[hoary kernel]

Fantasstic

[void shell]

I see frost relic not at sov

Chilled yarn too

[unique wedge]

got all the speed ones and artifind chance to sov then i just forced fury

now i can get everything else

[solemn ore]

You're nearly done, the difference between the first few sovereign and all the rest isn't all that big

[alpine rune]

Was this rushed by any chance?

[odd socket]

what do you mean

[pastel kayak]

@hoary kernel main this morning

[hoary kernel]

Good job

Been playing too much ww lately

[fringe jacinth]

bro what is this run

not a single grateful bringer

And i died nice

[deft haven]

jesus christ...

[bitter inlet]

is there a way to know how the premium packs rotate?

[coral dove]

why did you buy that fizzare drink at 1 MH? should've rejected it instead

[sweet cipher]

2 chests

[fringe jacinth]

i didnt buy it

i just got another death bringer

[coral dove]

still, 2 chests is too little amounts of justice bonuses, you should do better next run

[fringe jacinth]

thats why i said it was a bad run

i had no major coin gains and the kangarro kept asking for coins i didnt have so he took all of my pop

it was dead from the beggining

[deft haven]

...... same energy. why did u spread ur rng disease

[swift ridge]

guys for this quest can I get the cape on any of my characters or only the one with active quest?

[deft haven]

grateful bringer did not show up at all wtf

[deft haven]

the one with active quest

[coral dove]

the latter

[swift ridge]

what?

[coral dove]

the toon with the active quest, that's what i meant when i said the latter

[swift ridge]

i was thinking on completing it on my dk (other character) and grind the orb until high number (inside the boss arena) then kill the boss

[fringe jacinth]

its a bad day for justice...

[fringe jacinth]

you have to drop the cape on that same character u cant swap it between all to complete it

it can always be dropped tho you dont need the quest to be active but it will only complete if you drop it on that character

[swift ridge]

my DR is x17.2 is it good to farm it?

[calm kindle]

What is the purpose of removing the stone? (does it unlock anything???)

[fringe jacinth]

i think it will take average 25 bosses with that dr

might be a bit off tho cus im not sure how many drops the boss has

[swift ridge]

i got the his tooth first try with x9 dr and i have 4 of his obols and never got the cape

[fringe jacinth]

cape is 4x the drop rate of the obol

[swift ridge]

ok 5 more tries

what is the fastest way to get his keys?

[deft haven]

ES on tremur

[hoary kernel]

I wish I was a giant jar of mayo

[deft haven]

so i can... lick you?

[hoary kernel]

Yeah sure man

[deft haven]

(you dont know how much i love mayo)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/863271087943843850.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[fiery igloo]

2nd red is the string ?

[fiery igloo]

Wait I don't need forge capacity ?

[arctic lodge]

how do i get more frozen souls? everytime i worship its like only 5 per

when i do the wave defense its even less i think

[silk agate]

Anyone know if the winz lantern is rarer than the other lanterns. Cuz I have gotten every other lantern to Eldritch form even two of them to sovereign but haven’t gotten the winz lantern. Is there something I’m missing like a winz lantern unlock or something in that lane?

[stable parrot]

Same DR

[calm kindle]

I have enough bad 😒

so should I change it to here as I saw it or do you have any advice?

Ok ??

[glass sky]

do i unlock this with a specific class or is it really character rng?

[ruby rain]

afk 1 hour…

[odd socket]

same as bravery, afk 1h on any char to unlock for all chars
(pls dont say you didnt unlock bravery )

[hoary kernel]

[faint wigeon]

yeah 2nd red is more string

[faint wigeon]

well unless you want to go for greenstacked bar, or the vial you don't really need them, once you crafted your gear

[hoary kernel]

Sunder bar gonna need 1m ores for 1 bar

[rose glade]

has ie autoreview been updated to fix the refinery tier showing as lowest?

[void shell]

autoreview won't be updated

[rose glade]

oh how come

[void shell]

Scoli quit after not-so-recent drama

something about p2w state of the game

[rose glade]

sadge

[gentle kelp]

what level should i have all my toons to to start pushing through w6?

[void shell]

put them all at sprout spirits and afk for a day or so, should be like level 300

then just push when it doesn't take too long to get to the next map

[cedar zenith]

guys should i js go to world 6 fighting kruk ro should i open the last2 maps befiore that?

[void shell]

go w6

[cedar zenith]

ok

[gentle kelp]

alr thanks

[tropic moss]

when is a good time to run monuments??

[echo crag]

up to you, some ppl do them every day, some wait till they getting close to cap

[dire cedar]

lmao i think it might take me a lot longer than i thought to get the w5 statues onyx'd

im really fucking dumb i put my things on the wrong character

[faint wigeon]

well it will, but not by scoli's hand but other contributors or peeps idk check the disc ig

[nocturne patrol]

only one dragonic cauldron left poggers

[warm nimbus]

Which divinity style should I be using to unlock all of the divinites?

[nocturne patrol]

wat lvl are u on div ?

[warm nimbus]

37ish

my players range in 37-39

[nocturne patrol]

use focus so

next incrase gonna be lvl 60

increase*

[warm nimbus]

no reason to use Vitalitic or TranQi to get to 60?

[nocturne patrol]

u can do that too

or mantra if u use it on 8 char

[warm nimbus]

thanks

[red torrent]

Hitting the gains (whats optimal choices for monument of bravery?)

[oak verge]

should i be setting this to anything? ive had the talent unlocked so i never really thought abt it

[nocturne patrol]

let it lo minimum

[nocturne patrol]

exp>mining eff > bfr and watever u want gaming bits/cooking speed

[oak verge]

generally been following opal >> villager exp > bucket fill then mining efficiency or smth

[hexed pine]

iirc that talent is a no no when u don't have every artifact in it's peak form

that's wut i can rmb

[oak verge]

rly?

im trying to arti grind rn so yea

[hexed pine]

Ask the pros

I ain't "pro" enough yet

[void shell]

When unlocking things, quantity over quality

[hexed pine]

I mean i already have all the artifacts

So it doesn't really matter for me

[void shell]

So anything from artifacts, to jars, to sanctum, always quantity over quality

[oak verge]

so i should nuke that talent for now?

what happens if i dont check up on it every 4 hours or smth

[hexed pine]

Uh

Just stays that way

So u gotta check then

[dry wagon]

wtf i didn’t even know there was a fourth water

[oak verge]

so if 2 chest cycles occur while i havent claimed them then the 2nd one gets eaten?

[balmy bronze]

What is the use of the fruit thing I got from sailing, I can’t click on it

[oak verge]

alch lv 80

[dry wagon]

ah i’m 10 away

[balmy bronze]

Wiki says it’s treasure but doesn’t tell me what the use of it

[solar seal]

if you don't have full sovereign artifacts:

1. don't change min chest rarity
2. don't level unending loot search on any SB

the TL:DR is you want as many chests as you can for artifact attempts. a rarer chest is less important than simply more attempts since the odds increase from a rare chest is not worth more than simply another chest. this is particularly true for the late sovereign artifacts -- particularly so once you have g.hampters beanstacked so you can cycle 400+ chest attempts every 2-3 hrs

[oak verge]

so without the talent i need to check in every 2-3 hours

[solar seal]

you don't have to - simply that you can.
the other side is that when you come back from any 3+ hr long afk period, you will have loot pile + 20 chests waiting for you versus loot pile - 1 chests if you leveled talent

[oak verge]

so what if i like, disappear for 10 hours

[solar seal]

10 > 3 so its included... the numbers don't change

i specified 3+ for a reason

[oak verge]

theres a "overflow" loot pile then?

[solar seal]

if you don't level the talent, boats will sit at dock w/ a chest. hence the +20

if you level the talent, boats can't wait at dock and you lose 1 from your loot pile since it uses that slot to keep cycling

[calm kindle]

Tips farm.Opal best ?

[odd socket]

there's no farm, you can check sources on wiki and just catch up to as high as you can go, skilling and other caverns, w6 boss, masterclasses etc, its a limited resource

[strong jungle]

For the jar cavern and enchanting, how many times can you enchant a collectible? Just once?

[odd socket]

no, there's no limit

at least as far as I know

seen people at like +30

[echo crag]

rng and sanity is the only limit

[obtuse plank]

Is having baharut and actis at the same time bugged or something? Says I have 9k divinity point income but I have the same than this morning, I have no character on altars or lab

[echo crag]

need to be physicaly in lab for goat to work

[obtuse plank]

I see, it's a bug then that it says that point generation -.-

[strong jungle]

What are the better enchants for jars to focus on?

First one I did so far was villager exp

[echo crag]

usual target are villager exp, study rate, monument afk

collectible find chance can also be good to fight rng if you didnt get study/monument

[strong jungle]

I have collectible chance but not study or monument yet

[echo crag]

2nd tab unlocked ?

[proven badge]

300 tickets later still 0 domeo card

unreal

[echo crag]

how high is your dr ?

[proven badge]

x8.45 lol

[hoary kernel]

Im sure it has great personality

[strong jungle]

I don’t have the second tab unlocked no

I’m only at like measurement 23 or 24

I mean schematics

[echo crag]

hold off on searching for collectable until tab2

lava made it really painful to get all of them, so rng can screw you

[strong jungle]

Ok I’ll definitely do that. Honestly I just need more villager exp. It’s incredibly slow for since I’m F2P so I switch around my opals a lot to kind of get chunks done from each villager

[echo crag]

make sure to do your bravery runs for more exp and farm the villager/dragon statue when you can

[toxic adder]

Villager statue is huge in terms of xp

[proven badge]

For the Goharut link, do I still use the style I set from the divinity altar?

[hoary kernel]

Yes

[proven badge]

sounds like I should goharut all my arcane elementalist and stuff em into the lab lol

[hoary kernel]

Yeah, sounds good

[dire cedar]

is your pfp plants vs zombies?

[hoary kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/456288477005348874.webp?size=96&animated=true

[dire cedar]

welp guess ill have my battleaxe onyx'd first lol

oh just saw my highest orb count it was 520 couldnt ss it tho lol

[hoary kernel]

Nice

been a while since I farm statues

[dire cedar]

tremor wurms good for stacks kills i guess lmao

[hoary kernel]

But I just love ww so much I cant help it

[dire cedar]

after i get the 3 statues from w5 onyx'd i probably wont be farming w6 statues for a while

[hoary kernel]

Yea I tried w6 statues and got like a few hundred in a hour

[strong jungle]

I have a lot of villager statues and it’s already onyxed. I don’t even have the 3rd monument yet. I stopped at ever tree to focus on other villager unlocks for a bit. So I still need the last monument, gambit and then dragon statues

[hoary kernel]

Hmm

Yeah that doesnt look good

[summer sedge]

not as bad as mine

[hoary kernel]

Atleast you got dragon warrior statue

[dire cedar]

can you send me a ss of your strongest characters sttas?

[summer sedge]

yea but i had 20k dragon and kapow and misclick donated all

[dire cedar]

i mightve uninstalled after doing that ngl

[summer sedge]

[hoary kernel]

I would be dead tomorrow if thia happens

[dire cedar]

fr thered be breaking news in the local area for sure

[summer sedge]

pro tip, if u click and hold the scroll bar and drag it up, even if ur mouse isnt directly on the deposit all statues button sometimes it will dono all

[hoary kernel]

Dead by daylight

[dire cedar]

thank you for the unfortunate info ill be sure to never do that thanks for taking that hit for everybody

[summer sedge]

now whatever im onyxing I lock it in my backpack

[proven badge]

how do you link with your 2nd god on elemental sorc?

[hoary kernel]

Dmg should be ~50Q, Idk why the dmg is incorrect, but the other stuff should be good

[dire cedar]

yeah i wish i had that kind of damage

[dire cedar]

maybe you have their preset set to a skilling preset or something lol

[hoary kernel]

One of my friend went from from 10Q to 300Q in a week

[dire cedar]

that is vile

[hoary kernel]

Idk how in oblivion He does that

[sleek trout]

Why do exp ballons not work on world 5 skills?

[hoary kernel]

Idk, doesnt look to be any different

[summer sedge]

lava is too hot so the balloons would pop

[hoary kernel]

NO CANDY
TOO HOT!!

[dire cedar]

yo i just thought about it, if sailing is in w5 does that mean all of the islands theyre sailing to are across fucking lava?

[echo crag]

they in the cloud obviously

[hoary kernel]

NO CANDY
IN SPACE!!

Still remember those message

[summer sedge]

or its orange juice

[dire cedar]

w5 is just the inside of a sunny D

[hoary kernel]

No, Its pee

[dire cedar]

brother you need to seek medical attention if your piss is like that xD

either that or you're on anti biotics

[summer sedge]

is there any reason you should ever turn off pig?

[dire cedar]

if you're going to sleep i probably would, just so you get a lot more bits

[rose glade]

if you're not actively checking every like 2-3 hours

yes its better to turn it off

[summer sedge]

yea makes sense

[daring eagle]

well as you can see in the sailing screen, what we have of w5 is but a small little part of it and there's a lot of other islands you can literally sail to and plunder

[dire cedar]

welp i finally got to the last 4 flag spots lol now we wait

[simple wadi]

Am I finally done with gambit? *exhausted laugh

[balmy bronze]

In the idleon majik, if i choose to get the link bonuses from nobisect, do all my character that also linked to nobisect get 4x kills ?

[hoary kernel]

No

[balmy bronze]

So what’s the idleon majik 1st perk for ?

[simple wadi]

Allows you to link to 3 deities (4 with ES)

[balmy bronze]

Hmm

Where to get the 2nd?

Eh

3rd

[simple wadi]

The third blue conjurer talent will allow you to link to two deities from the first green talent.

[balmy bronze]

Hmm

[trail ore]

The AC grind is rough y'all 😦

[balmy bronze]

I can always change the deities right ?

[dire cedar]

depends

[balmy bronze]

On what

[simple wadi]

He's talking about the deities linked through the hole.

[dire cedar]

actually linking to a god at the alter is only once a week if you are using pocket divinity it can be changed an infinite amount of times

[simple wadi]

So yes, you can change them at any time.

[balmy bronze]

Okay thanks

[dire cedar]

right but his question didnt say hole lol thats why i replied to it like that

[simple wadi]

Context clues matter.

[balmy bronze]

Well, if u scroll up, I did asked about the hole

[dire cedar]

yeah i saw i replied that way in case some other people new to w5 saw it cuz if i just replied with yes and thats all they saw it would fuck them out of a whole week if they decided to unlink and relink at the alter lol

[balmy bronze]

Yea I already found out about that

I can only unlink 2 times per week

Is there a way to increase that ?

Rip

[dire cedar]

in all honestly you shouldnt really be needing to unlink from your gods at the alter very often the main thing is pocket div tbh

[balmy bronze]

Yeah, I only unlocked 3 god anyway

Since I unlocked nobisect, now I can continue rushing to w6 with my ES

Thanks guys

[late lily]

Do i just link most of my characters with Arctis?

[sleek dagger]

auspicious aura width increases every 25lvls right?

[azure hedge]

why did my villager exp just drop from 12m to 8m? between this, i tripled my statue level

[errant pond]

Usually drops like that are db (or was it vman?) talent setup changes

Or was the ballot thingy villager exp maybe? Never pay attention to those buffs

[azure hedge]

wait do villagers benefit from skill xp?

[simple wadi]

Did you unlock cavern 13? If so, the rupie slugs' bonus village exp turns into jar value.

[azure hedge]

no it was like, i checked today and between those it changed

i already had that

[simple wadi]

It's possible the statue's bonuses have glitched. Cloud save and check the statue in W1, then go back to the hole

[dire cedar]

i mean honestly what in the fuck is this idk how lava coded this thing but its truly fucking awful

[old herald]

any tips for the wisdom monument that isnt get a better memory

[heady saddle]

Super chow and wow only works on 2nd bb/db, but zow and chow works on both?

[dire cedar]

im calling bullshit on that personal highscore aint no way

[sweet cipher]

With no lagg i feel it should be doable

But on mobile lagg hell no

[dire cedar]

absolutely but with the lag its hell

has it been laggy ever since it came out like this? or was a recent update what made it lag so fucking bad?

[sweet cipher]

Always been laggy

Sometimes it also just doesnt register imputs

[dire cedar]

sometimes it moves my bar when i didnt even click to move it either its fucking insane

[sweet cipher]

Yeah laggs and keeps the input you had on for durration off the lagg usally pushing you to the edge

[mystic lichen]

afk on the monument

[main tundra]

i didnt quite understand it from the hole guide when i should reset my opals and focus all of them into one of the villagers. ive got like 110 opals atm spread over all villagers. which of the villagers would make most sense to boost first. im thinking either explorer to hit 15 faster or engineert o look the samples but im not sure

[simple wadi]

Use the snipping feature of Windows 10/11 and turn on multi-window snipping.

[simple wadi]

When you have ~40-50 opals is when you focus them on one villager.

[main tundra]

damn then im way past that already

[simple wadi]

Yep

[main tundra]

i got 11 explorer 16 engineeer 18 conjurer and 9 measurer

im like 40 hours away from lvl 10 measurer so i think ill wait atleast that long for opal reset but then idk where to put them

[simple wadi]

Put them all into explorer until 13, then move them to Bolaia (who you'll have by then) until she's in her... 40s or so.

[main tundra]

alright tyvm

[simple wadi]

After Bolaia, I'd do engineer until ~24

[simple wadi]

Where have you been putting the conjurer points?

[main tundra]

i reset them last week since i got doot and then did what was said in hole guide

does this look aight?

[main tundra]

ngl once my measurer is 10 explorer is 12 so i could possibly try to push for 14 explorer maybe

im rly short on lamp wishes atleast it feels like that

[simple wadi]

Second blue talent is useless, you're better of putting them in red. But otherwise it looks good.

[slender lantern]

Is there a gaming skill guide anywhere ?

[simple wadi]

Not really. It's not a difficult enough skill to warrant a guide.

[main tundra]

this one?

hm probably not worth to reset just for this for now

what else would i be putting it into tho monument bonus?

[simple wadi]

The reason why is because it's an additive bonus that doesn't scale well at all. So early on it'll be a nice chunk of exp, but where you are it's falling way behind in usefulness compared to any red talents.

[main tundra]

hm

[slender lantern]

I just wasn’t sure if I was missing something to increase my bit gain. Getting to 90Q for the atom collider upgrade is taking me forever

[upper pagoda]

could this count as a pet?

[dire cedar]

what should i get out of these?

welp heres what i got from my run lol 3 opals is pretty hot so ill take it

[glad stratus]

what's the best way to get Divinty points? trying to unlock Goat god. all characters around 20 div

[dire cedar]

whats the max level for the villagers?

[simple wadi]

There's quite literally only one way to get divinity points, and you clearly know it already.

[errant pond]

No technical max lvl but just consider a villager “maxxed” when a new lvl doesnt give a buff (like a new scheme or cavern) and pump all other lvls in the study guy

[simple wadi]

15 for explorer, 29 for engineer, 65 for conjurer, 16 for measurer, and no max level for bolaia

Hell yeah, just got another +800 jump in lamp level. Gave me +3 wishes a day.

[hoary kernel]

Wonderful

[serene horizon]

besides idleon toolbox builds is there another site or place for builds

[viral adder]

what is the best way to farm dragon statue?

[nocturne patrol]

There is IE but idk if there is build on it

[simple wadi]

Full send all chrs to golems while active farming on SB.

[sleek dagger]

what about sailing statues? dk on oranges? once im done with onyx power i might try to boost sailing a bit

[viral adder]

ty

[sleek dagger]

ohh thx im saving that for later

[nocturne patrol]

worm better for crystal farm no ?

[viral adder]

is 43 dr okay?

[nocturne patrol]

xd

[alpine rune]

I should probably reset mines

[nocturne patrol]

i wait +200 for reset mine aha

i need so much BFR, schematic start to be expensive

66T for 9th bucket

[simple wadi]

Lamp 😉

+25% exp every purchase.

[nocturne patrol]

oh

[sleek dagger]

oh thanks for reminding me about checking my hole (im doing it intentionally at this point)

[simple wadi]

I was thinking more the wish after that one, but sure

[nocturne patrol]

this ?

[simple wadi]

That's what I spend most of my wishes on

[nocturne patrol]

i dont get a lot per day, but gonna try to put a good amount

[nocturne patrol]

wow big multi

[split meteor]

i can find the character talent guide for you... it just shows priorities

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml

[snow vault]

ayyyy just got my last sovereing artifact

[split meteor]

siiiiick

[misty sequoia]

Why's my exp gen so low?

[split meteor]

so did you get all sovs before getting a ender cap?

[snow vault]

i actually have i think 3 ender caps

[split meteor]

oh wow gg

epic lol

[snow vault]

i have 4!

[nocturne patrol]

share pls

[split meteor]

i bow to you sir youre a better idleoner than i

[simple wadi]

Because you have barely any opals invested in that villager?

[misty sequoia]

Oh is it few? Thanks

[misty sequoia]

Tbh it's the one with most opals invested on

Is there a caves guide somewhere?

[simple wadi]

Check the pinned messages

[misty sequoia]

Thank you!

[split meteor]

tbh i would think by cavern 13 having just 7 opals is very very very few... i feel like i had 15 opals by c7 but maybe im not right

[simple wadi]

That's not cavern 13

[faint wigeon]

my alt is C6 with like 6 opal invested in total

[split meteor]

youre right cavern 12 right...? but still

[split meteor]

oh ok... have you done a lot of caverns yet

[simple wadi]

He's working on C8, tf are you on? Lol

[faint wigeon]

problem now is that lava made explorer level up kinda easy to C13 if you got some slugs, meaning people will just slack more in hole with opal or villager exp

[split meteor]

hahahaha sorry

idk why i thought it was the next cavern

[faint wigeon]

I'm not going far with my 1h bravery x)

[hoary kernel]

C4

[faint wigeon]

elo Doktor

[hoary kernel]

Hello Dadummers

[light herald]

hey can anyone help me with me beating w1 w2 and w3 dudgeons for equinox dreams

[empty current]

whats the best class for farming dragon statues?

[simple wadi]

SB is the only class that can actively farm them, but all chrs can AFK farm them.

[empty current]

oh damn I forgot u can afk on it now

this whole time I coulda got that 20k stack xd

[simple wadi]

Now? You were always able to

[empty current]

yeah thats what I meant lol

[simple wadi]

🤔

[jolly prism]

what should i make my tenth character, im nearly done with w5 thanks to a rush, and i have my es and sb on divinity, bm on idol, one bb on cooking the other on mining, my vw experience farming, two bubos on lab and a dk on rushing

[split meteor]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml

there are two good options on this first page of this doc

most people recommend not the 2 blood berseker choice....

[jolly prism]

so should it be a second dk?

[split meteor]

so you got 2 bb 1 dk 2 bubo 1 es... 1 sb 1 bm... no dont go 4 warriors no

[jolly prism]

ok

do i do a sb?

[split meteor]

thats not a bad setup... hang on

!classes

[obtuse orbit]

One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.

Finals Objectives :

• 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)

⚠️⬇️Warning ⬇️⚠️

• NEVER do 3 of the same elite class, or you'll be unable to have all classes

[jolly prism]

so sb?

[split meteor]

oh i was hoping it would say why you dont want 2 bb and such... i think your only option is really 2nd sb.... unless someone has a good reason for 2nd bm...

[still apex]

The general idea is double sb over bm

[jolly prism]

alright

thanks yall : D

[split meteor]

yeah when masterclass comes out sb will master the world 7 skill definitely a good future call since bm isnt lacking atm

[simple wadi]

What benefit is there for double sb?

[sleek dagger]

ok so my two chars that im using for sampling are linked normally to the rabbit div for 3x printing and via pocket divinity theyre also linked to bear but in 3d printer my samples are golden which means 2x iirc instead of purple 6x is it a visual bug or is smth wrong?

maybe i dont understand how divinity works lol

yesterday they kept switching between purple and golden so probably a bug?

cloudsaved and didnt change anything idk

[serene horizon]

ty

[split meteor]

Sure man we try 😅

[weary aspen]

... that broke me.. probably took 30 minutes of constant clicking to animation cancel

[sleek dagger]

oh so the game doesnt see me as connected to lab, but why? i thought it might be a possibility so i put my dk in a tub for a while but didnt change anything as well

[simple wadi]

It's a common visual bug, I wouldn't worry about it.

[sleek dagger]

ok but arctis as pocket div will work right?

[simple wadi]

I personally do it the other way around, but it'll work regardles.

[sleek dagger]

ok then i wont be worried about colours anymore

[solar seal]

can you describe the situation where it was swapping between colors - this is usually only on a dk while you are stacking orb due to increasing the bonus, even miniscule amounts and game continues to recalculate

but if its strictly on a color, it means you lost something - i would check your mainframe

[sleek dagger]

i have arctis as pocket and on one dk and one es theres rabbit div and once i decide to work on other samplers i will link them to rabbit too

[sleek dagger]

yeah i think it was when i was active on beans with dk

[solar seal]

i think you fundamentally misunderstand rabbit actually, now that i see what youa rewriting

rabbit acts as a 3x multiplier on the sample -- meaning it affects output -- it has no affect on the sample it self

so if you are sampling, you should be utilizing a different set of gods - namely: bear/snake/goat trio combination

so you sample w/ bear/snake/goat -- then afterwards, you print 6x with bear/rabbit/__

[sleek dagger]

i know, but other chars dont produce too much resources anyway so rn i linked the chars that produce the most at 3d printer

[sleek dagger]

oh

[solar seal]

just cause your other chars may have weaker samples, doesn't mean you shouldn't utilize a 6x output on them

[sleek dagger]

uhh weaker is understatement, theyre not built yet so with 6x they would maybe produce the same amount or more probably smaller than my two main guys without 6x

gear is my most neglected thing in this game i think, on other chars than my "mains"

[solar seal]

in an incremental game, constantly producing resources is king. even if they don't produce as much, even if its 1%, producing 6x 1% is still 6x as much for everything you'll be needing

i'm not going to force you to utilize them, but the pushback is odd from my perspective

[graceful current]

anyone want to run W3 dungeon for equinox completion? trying to coordinate in party finder

[solar seal]

realize that going into w6 - you cannot keep neglecting characters. you must properly build out at least 8 of your characters

[sleek dagger]

i have 6 and im trying to work on maestro rn

honestly second es is at least decent compared to others so maybe 7 rn

[solar seal]

my point is simply that you will want to start shifting your view, now that you are in w5 and w6 is on the horizon - don't gimp yourself simply cause you feel a character has weaker samples... something >> nothing so why not make the most of it

you have x characters for a reason meaning x or x*2 printing slots. make the most of them

[sleek dagger]

im early w6 got up to bamboo spirits and stopped pushing there bc it was too slow

[warm cloud]

Got to w6 instantly put 8 of my characters back onto monument

[solar seal]

you need to be working on your backtracking then. you shouldn't be pushing at all

[sleek dagger]

i know its just 10 chars is so much that i never know what to do next its a bit overwhelming for me

[sleek dagger]

yeah ik, ive been doing skills and stuff for maybe 2 weeks now, back then my best samples were 30k so yeah

and i didnt even have all salts unlocked then lol

rn im mainly focusing on sailing to get fury to get better cc to work on alchemy more efficiently, side quest with trying to utilise my vman, get a bit better prints, active dk on beans for onyx...

i have some plans and well see how they go

[rustic sleet]

At first 10 are too many

But later on 10 will seem too few trust me

[zinc torrent]

When 8are on monuments, vman skilling or monuments, and the other is active?

[rustic sleet]

Fr

[calm kindle]

The furthest I have is G. I have those letters. Ok or change?

[simple wadi]

Depends on your schematics. There's a schematic that increases the effects for every unique letter assigned, and one that increases the effect for every string strummed by 20% per string up to the 5th string.

[faint wigeon]

don't do half G and half C, either full C or full G, with Mirai's advice if and when you got these schematics

[hoary kernel]

I do D G A and full C

Maybe I should change it to DGAF

[bleak gazelle]

only if your F is super behind, otherwise you usually fill most slots with C/G for notes/xp

[simple wadi]

Real men are all about that A.

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[lilac ruin]

What’s the best map to grind out plunderous kills?

[bitter path]

citringes iirc

[simple wadi]

Imo Whatever map you need. Farm golems or something.

If you're after the achievement, just active your SB on something useful. It's going to take forever either way.

[hoary kernel]

Do you get more gmush kill when afk compared to active?

[lilac herald]

Interesting, me and gmalala were having a conversation about best harp setups and we were confused because shadow said he everyone he spoke to said they ran 1 of each and all a, gmalala runs 1 of each and all c

But I might need to switch my bow to c/g and get the xp up on that fast

[lilac herald]

Id heard citranges was the best for it

[pastel kayak]

@hoary kernel @simple wadi

[shell lion]

hi! who could help me with pets please?

[odd socket]

breeding? what do you need help with

companions? begging goes in #trade-discussion / #pet-trades

[hoary kernel]

Wait you only just get 25% now?

I thought youre 10% or lower

[balmy bronze]

For the harp, to strum it, do I just hold left click and hover the cursor across the white line again and again?

[neat siren]

doesn't the game tell you how to do it now

[balmy bronze]

It’s just say this and a hand flying across the white line

[neat siren]

you only strum it once

[balmy bronze]

Oh

[neat siren]

you're not gonna see anything happen when your harp power isn't more than 100%

[balmy bronze]

Oh yea

I realize

My harp power only increase when that hand fly across the white line

[neat siren]

no

your harp power increases over time

[balmy bronze]

??

Wait what

[neat siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330467770936066139/1351994003066716291/soypin.gif

[pastel kayak]

Was 50% yesterday

Bad @neat siren alert

Mega evil bad old man @hoary kernel alert

[balmy bronze]

Do I need to afk on the harp or no

[neat siren]

no

[balmy bronze]

Ok

[faint wigeon]

is even on the ss you sent

[hoary kernel]

🤣

[hoary kernel]

Theres no way, youre better than me and Ive been 25% since forever

[balmy bronze]

I saw that, but I ask that because I saw the flying hand thing and it says strum the harp

So I thought I have to do it

[hoary kernel]

Lava shouldve gave 100% harp power when unlocked so people could strum it

[versed coyote]

Should I upgrade my magma core chest and pants to Kruk or not

[odd socket]

why would you not

[hoary kernel]

I wouldnt, cause magma is the best and I dont like kruk armor's design

[odd socket]

true

retvrn to amarok

[hoary kernel]

Amarok head is gorguoeus

[swift ridge]

guys with x17.55 DR I am getting 2k maximum power statues on my dk actively farming crystal mobs on beans is this good?

[hoary kernel]

Sounds good to me, I got 20k with less dr

Wont take that long

[swift ridge]

I am getting 2k per hour

sorry I didn't mention that

[hoary kernel]

Yeah thats good

[swift ridge]

should I keep my gems till W7 release or spend them ( I have 1570)

[void shell]

sureeeeeee anything is fine

[deft haven]

ig buy parallel villager if you havent already bought at least one

[pastel kayak]

Not always do the stuff like level bubbles and the like cause I have bad days with the pain

[misty tree]

Ciao! just got to w5 a few days ago, is there a way to increase sailing loot pile?

[odd socket]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=loot pile

[misty tree]

Ty!

do you have any recommendations for w5 gem shop buys i should prioritize got a few gems burning a hole in my pocket if ya know what i mean

[light stump]

Buy everything 🧠

In the idleon guide sheet there is a tierlist i can recommend that

[rose glade]

anyone got a build for farming land ranks upgrades

[faint wigeon]

w5 gem shop you can buy thigns from it if you really want it, but you don't need it compared to golden hammer, crystal printer and other
for w5 you could buy one golden sprinkler

things like div sparkie and slug for loot pile can be considered if you want to make them bit faster, but don't buy all, like 1-2 maybe

[misty tree]

ty for the recommendations guys

[faint wigeon]

they are like, nice to have and thats it, with sprinkler being the 'best' to have

[faint wigeon]

also check hole if you didn't already

[misty tree]

the villagers?

[faint wigeon]

well the hole in itself, but if about the gem shop for hole, buying the x2 villager exp for explorer is nice

[west saffron]

hi, any tips for the pong minigame ? there seems to always be a lag spike or a frame drop that prevents me from getting far

[rose glade]

anyone know that when i candy things like beach which i produce 5 bil/h of i only get like 300-400 mil on the ground

[hoary kernel]

Some stuff got deleted if you dragged your mouse to collect them or something

[tough tundra]

from what Ive heard yea you want to click/tap rather than drag, I presume its a case that if you drag the game tries to put x quantity that your inventory can hold from each stack you drag over before it actually fills so it just vaporizes the excess

[faint wigeon]

go to a server empty (or almost ig), to a town and pray

-# the less peeps on the map the less lag

[west saffron]

ok then i guess it's just a matter of getting good at not making silly mistakes and getting lucky on the lag, thanks

[faint wigeon]

could ask for @lilac herald if he has any tips for pong, I know he did the 25k achiev while I barely have 2k so can't really help

[lilac herald]

i hear poing

[west saffron]

x) yeah i was asking for tips

[lilac herald]

in general its just aim for corner angles, the bar is slightly bigger than it shows you you can get consistent corner hits and aceing is in general the best idea for it

i do have secrets about it, but idk if i should share all of them yet incase on the 0.0000001% chance lava gives us a trading hub and makes poing 25k scores a tradeable item so i can get everything in game from it

lemme go grab my videos

[west saffron]

so far i'm trying for the corner aces but as soon as i hit 10k+, any non-ace is almost an instant game over

[lilac herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390189488604582081/1390542104299835452/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_32.mp4?ex=687874c0&is=68772340&hm=c9cb0c941673f9bba7326882e49459f98e866e838dbf36f5618f13a2adb2d62c&

heres a video of the best way that ive found for decent stats

[west saffron]

ok thanks i'll look at it right now

[rose glade]

i tried clicking but it still gives me only 2 inventories worth of stacks of logs instead of the full amount

[lilac herald]

you start off by rallying with the first few goals worth of bars since the bar generally cant move that fast and cant cause insane angle hits you want to keep it as straight as you can and rally it until it starts to stray wide then you score and repeat this until 2000 points after that the bar get consistently better from what ive found

you want to aim for around 40-60 points of just rallying on the first goal to have a decent run going

then after hitting the 2k mark you aim for angle aces while trying to bounce it off of both walls before scoring since the points also are given for hitting the wall the same way you get points for hitting your bar or enemies bar

the idea is to try and speed up the ball to a point where you can blitz through a good amount of the goals while maintaining aces only

[faint wigeon]

[lilac herald]

theres ways to spike the ball directly upwards if you are stuck with it bouncing across the board every hit, by angling yourself just away from the edge of the wall when it collides with the wall and then the side of your bar itll send it pretty much directly upwards

so you can avoid having to rally with the opponent a lot of the time

and then just repeat this consistently to get 25k scores

it is rng depending if you get lag spikes etc, ive had a few 50k runs that have been killed by it lagging for a split second and locking my bar moving left or right, you can cancel this by pressing the direction again but by that point the ball speed is faster than you can react to the bar lock and fixing position because the enemy will tend to angle you aswell

[west saffron]

i'll grind some more using your rally strat at the beginning, thanks for all the advice

[lilac herald]

always happy to be of help

dont go for the highscore, that will be mine one day

i will claim it from forgotten one and the other dude

[west saffron]

i'll be happy with the achiev

[lilac herald]

@faint wigeon making me spill my secrets

[faint wigeon]

-# I never said to spill all of it, just share some lil tips

[lilac herald]

welllllll the tips are the secrets

[faint wigeon]

[lilac herald]

otherwise its just aim for corners and pray

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-gif-26660577

[lilac herald]

tbf the tips i gave and stuff will probably be the only like "guide" on poing cause no one plays it

[hoary kernel]

Bro got Phd in poingology

[lilac herald]

working towards 170k slowly but surely

where are you up to takemi

[rose glade]

xD

[toxic quarry]

Which gem shop bonuses are worth buying apart from the hole ones?
Just Slug chest and lava sprout?

And how many is worth to buy? Just all of em?

[rose glade]

on ie autoreview there is a section for gem shop tier list

also shows how many you can buy for those specific tiers

[craggy wadi]

!gemshop

[toxic quarry]

Ah ty

[storm timber]

Which map faster to farm statue, citrine or tremors worm?

[craggy wadi]

Citrines

[toxic quarry]

That only shows up to w4 tho

[faint wigeon]

this one is very outdated

[faint wigeon]

at best only golden sprinkler

[craggy wadi]

Sorry then

[toxic quarry]

And just 1 I guess?

[faint wigeon]

else some few div sparkie to make div faster, and/or slug for more loot pile

[faint wigeon]

yeah just one

[toxic quarry]

Okay thanks!

I'll just unlock them all at 1 and leave it at that for now.

I do have 14k gems so I could unlock more

[rose glade]

use ie autoreview

for amounts

[faint wigeon]

could save for w6 gem shop, or buy some more thing from hole

[toxic quarry]

Yeah i'll max out hole as soon as I can

[faint wigeon]

could get all zen cog, or like half at least bc they are quite expensive too

[toxic quarry]

W6 i'll have more gems

I already did like 2 yrs ago

Just didn't play for a long time

Zen cogs defo my worst purchase lmao

[faint wigeon]

oh

[toxic quarry]

What can I say. The rotational packs are good

[viral adder]

for what is the illuminate torch upgrade in cavern 15?

[faint wigeon]

increase search odds

[odd socket]

is that the right one? higher active respawn

[faint wigeon]

or there's that one very good gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330467770936066139/1351994003066716291/soypin.gif

[odd socket]

isnt amplify for search odds

[viral adder]

no left one

[faint wigeon]

no

[viral adder]

so i get more torches?

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-duck-smoke-smoking-twitter-duck-gif-1365401141084093497

no it increase the chance to awaken the centurion (search)

[void shell]

ew?

[viral adder]

bruh i thought its cooler

[faint wigeon]

?we

[odd socket]

more torches is either via bell or jar collectibles

[faint wigeon]

early on you just spam mid one

left is when you get abysmal rates

[viral adder]

i think i spammed the wrong one

[faint wigeon]

ahh hell naw

[viral adder]

i dspam mid now?+

[faint wigeon]

ye

you want to spam mid because the more torch you have, the more the 'search' will cost, and it scale very shitily

and you only start to illuminate until I don't know when, like lets say >1%

[odd socket]

you can spam mid till like 20-25 or so

[viral adder]

when should i search? if i have more than 50%

[faint wigeon]

spam mid -> spam search

[odd socket]

when you have torches what dad said 3 messages above

[viral adder]

no i mean later

[faint wigeon]

later on you will NOT have 50%, you'll be in the 1-3% at best maybe, but its just until you want to stop illuminating to boost the odds

[odd socket]

its like arti find chance or farming upgrades, quantity over quality, you can spam search at like 0.1% chance and still get higher sanctum with decent luck

[viral adder]

oh okay ty

[glossy palm]

When you search is at 20x but your chance is still 0.0001%

[cursive crypt]

whats the best cards to use while grindidng divinity?

[mint apex]

Theres like…a single card that may (heavy emphasis on may) work. Biggie but thats abt it

[mint apex]

That I know of, of course

[cursive crypt]

whats his full name plz?

[mint apex]

Biggie hours

[cursive crypt]

i see thx

[swift ridge]

guys I have grinded 3 sets of DR obol and 1 for family set and grinded a set for Build rate what obol set should I grind now

[daring carbon]

if you dont have w6 unlocked tremor worms are the best for xp yes?

[hoary kernel]

Yes

[dire cedar]

oh shit apparently i got this infinite now thats cool, now ill always have a chance to get this ring for the slab lol

[cedar zenith]

guys i reahced kruk and i cnat fight him i cna tkill the minions and they keep healing him what to do

[swift ridge]

get better crit chance first cuz that one is trash

[echo crag]

get to it on a diff class

[odd socket]

get more damage from alchemy stamps etc

[cedar zenith]

that'll take too long

[echo crag]

BB is pretty muc hthe worst class to kill kurk on for the first kill

[cedar zenith]

how much dmg?

[swift ridge]

you candy pushed it?

[cedar zenith]

ye

[echo crag]

then you want your max to show like 80m

[odd socket]

50-80M, its in pins

[echo crag]

DK can do it with 30m

[cedar zenith]

ok ig ill get 60-70m dmg

[odd socket]

its an idle game buddy youre not supposed to speedrun it

but basically

go back and actually do alchemy+stamps

[dire cedar]

is there a good way to get more of the grey dna? or is that always gonna be a bitch to get lol

[fallow aurora]

U still need to align to it for a chance at the ring

[echo crag]

hole schematic can boost it, but its all from eggs

[dire cedar]

this the one you're talking about?

[swift ridge]

what is the ring that you will get?

[fallow aurora]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Sanic_Ring

[echo crag]

+1 slab

[dire cedar]

lol so that means i get 3 more grey dna every time i trash a pet what a steal xD

[echo crag]

better than nothing lol

you also dont have the breeding upgrade that test your sanity while using eggs from mutated mush

[dire cedar]

lol idk what that is

[swift ridge]

guys I have grinded 3 sets of DR obol and 1 for family set and grinded a set for Build rate what obol set should I grind now?

[void shell]

obols are flexible, just whatever you want

you can always change them as you need to

[swift ridge]

no like is there class specifc obol set for each class or all drop rate?

[void shell]

like I said, whatever you want

🤷‍♂️

[charred cove]

guys do you have any tips on how to farm strung tooth of the divine got like 40x drop rate

[swift ridge]

i got 2200 frags and dont know what to do

[void shell]

run chaotic/nightmare

[charred cove]

is the drop rate decent or should i am for more=?

[void shell]

2200 isn't a lot

[charred cove]

aim*

[void shell]

I did it with 19x

[swift ridge]

you have x40 DR and didn't get it
I had x8.92 and got is on my first try

[verbal tree]

i think i remember monument hours being caped at 80k, did this get increased?

[charred cove]

should i go on my vman or any char?

[dire cedar]

slab gives a point for each type and tier of obol you've found

[void shell]

never was capped, just a little patch

[void shell]

vman is fine

[verbal tree]

ic, what hours do endgamers stop doing monument at now?

[void shell]

bravery to 100k-500k, whichever you like

lol

[echo crag]

24k on justice/wisdom usualy, and 100k+ on bravery

[void shell]

I mean.. it really depends what you want to go for

I just need the hyper obols, emp and grandfrog

"just"

[dire cedar]

heres the obols ive gotten for slab so far (last pic was ones i hadnt gotten yet lol)

[void shell]

lmao

I've been extremely lazy

I could easily get another +10-20 slab

[dire cedar]

when i was statue farming on the worlds that gave me obols i was just scrapping and fusing them lol

i got 13.7k fragments lol

[swift ridge]

6 long hours of DK crystal farming on beans

[dire cedar]

thats a good bit of statues for 6 hours

whats your dr?

[swift ridge]

if I use ES on carrot I get better power statue (increase of 2k)

[swift ridge]

x17.55

with full DR personal and full DR family and full DR and crystal spawn chance cards

[dire cedar]

yeah thats a good dr lol

i think i started statue farming at like 10 or 11 dr lol

been a while though i dont remember exactly what it was

[swift ridge]

and still don't know WHY I got the strung tooth of the divinity with x8.92

[mellow basalt]

how do i get talen points for tab 5? do i have to be above a certain level?

[odd socket]

from WW guide

[dire cedar]

im currently farming w5 statues after i get done with that ill probably stop statue farming maybe idk we'll see

[void shell]

oh god

[swift ridge]

guys is there a page or a pin that shows what gives statue bonuses

[odd socket]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=statue

[nocturne patrol]

poggers i guess

[junior obsidian]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[dire cedar]

ay we take those

[raven gorge]

What to upgrade or do I upgrade later?

[dire cedar]

i remember somebody saying something about not doing the motherlode in the hole too much til you reach a certain point, anybody remember what it was?

[odd socket]

all 3 in bottom row are really good

[echo crag]

i stopped at 12b could probably get it higher now

[dire cedar]

is that even really worth it? like 50 isnt really anything lol, unless its base

[echo crag]

its base fill rate iirc

[dire cedar]

thats how it works right base get hit with the multi so depending how much multi you have its good to get base?

cuz if that isnt correct then i dont even have a single inkling on how math works lol

[echo crag]

yeah base get hit by all the different multi

and not like its that hard to get it high specially if you didnt push the layers too much

[dire cedar]

lmao

[echo crag]

just watch your mining exp XD

that a smol amount of req efficiency, should still get lots of ore out of afk

[rotund galleon]

Is lava gonna ever change this? cuz this does absolutely nothing now

[raven gorge]

Is there a tier list for these upgrades

[dire cedar]

thank god i was never even close to getting that one xD

[rotund galleon]

like I feel like i should get it to max out emp and see all the options sooner, but its so expensive for something which will do absolutely nothing

[echo crag]

already mentioned it and Hotair will pass it along to Lava

[rotund galleon]

most likely just gonna get changed into a critter gain buff right?

[echo crag]

dunno

[odd socket]

haven't seen one, but its generally gold ball > multi stuff > upgrades that are the only ones of their type, like nothing else provides emperor bonuses % > other rare stuff like idk masterclass resource, prisma/exalt % etc > all the other additive crap

[rotund galleon]

I do need more critter buffs, so I hope it does

[echo crag]

would be nice to get a more shiny per traps buff

or a +exp buff

critter amount buff is meh really

[void shell]

Just click your bubbles

It's really free

[fallow panther]

just another 50 days and im free

[dire cedar]

holy shit im almost done with this vial lol caught it right before i had enough

[bleak gazelle]

there's a spreadsheet in #1303761365273415700 which can show the best setup for maximum note gain based on the two schematics. based on how that works, it should be the same for xp, just swap c/g. i don't really think it's necessary to run A unless you need more levels on it since the note gain is

[swift ridge]

guys is this real and how much to max

[rotund galleon]

is there any point in lvling up the bell study? the wiki doesnt mention it scaling with lvl

[lilac herald]

@glass herald

and thank you acecow

[young nova]

yeah its a good one, gives you more levels

[rotund galleon]

an extra 20 per a lvl? or smaller increments

[young nova]

i think 20 per level yea

[dire cedar]

i got 11 vials maxed now wasnt it like 12 or 13 i needed max for the best bonus for snakeskin vial or something like that?

[rotund galleon]

Ima focus bell heavy

[fallow panther]

is there such thing as bravery hours multi

like a boost to how many hours i get

cause this is abysmal