lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[neat siren]

but no reason to do them at all, sandy pots just better

[faint wigeon]

good layout, glass shard

[neat siren]

the glass for stamp is one of the reasons

and here's some testing done by acecow

[hollow terrace]

Just got world 5 accuracy a bit low any advice on accuracy increases?

[faint wigeon]

Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[hollow terrace]

Thank you

[narrow rock]

there is no way someone gets 80k speed statues in 30 mins

[neat siren]

check his dr, crystal chance and talent level in the top right

[faint wigeon]

he does say he have 81 Dr in his ss

[narrow rock]

yeah just saw that

[neat siren]

it's not that unusual considering it's one of the more common drops, together with beholder and feasty statues

[narrow rock]

and 1/23 crystal is crazy

[hoary vessel]

guys which class do you recommend for clearing crystal island, DK or voidman

[neat siren]

not that unusual

[faint wigeon]

card doubler are in fact vrazy

[narrow rock]

mine is 1/66 non jman and 1/22 on jman so im a way off

[neat siren]

vman with choco on is good for crystal countdown

[faint wigeon]

DK if you want loot, else any char for exp

ohh that too yeah

[narrow rock]

yeah ive got rift afk killing rn so i can get 6star cards too

[nocturne patrol]

uwu

[faint wigeon]

good call keep forgetting that talent exists

[neat siren]

yeah you're gonna want that

[neat siren]

it's ok me too

shit i almost forgot to do today's crystal island cus i was gonna do exactly that LMFAO

[hoary vessel]

alright, ty

[faint wigeon]

im guessing you got your cards at 4* or 5*, so gotta pump crescent shrine, chiz card, and wait for omega chip

[neat siren]

btw fyi once you do get ruby, get your c.chiz card to ruby asap

the in game card req is bugged, you only need 54 cards total for ruby

[narrow rock]

whats best way to get cards from chiz, surely just Vman right?

[neat siren]

correct

[faint wigeon]

🤓 akshually its 5 star and card level 6

[narrow rock]

'_'

[faint wigeon]

just let it stack for a week then do it same time as you go do shimmer

[neat siren]

oh wait it stacks?

[faint wigeon]

I reckon yeah tho idk for how long

[narrow rock]

whats the strat for the equinox cloud for round 125 with 4 pets?

just have an insane pet power with mono refiller comp?

[neat siren]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

peapod is the first ? in w4 pets

[narrow rock]

ok thank you will work towards that

[faint wigeon]

yep

[narrow rock]

i either get 4 equinox challenges done in a row or i have to wait a week between each one

[faint wigeon]

tho do try rattler instead of peapod, with enough luck you'll get to round 125, got it on 3rd try in 2 days I think?

[narrow rock]

which one is rattler?

[neat siren]

yeah you can also try the rattler comp, just gotta get lucky

the bone one

surely you have that...

[narrow rock]

i tried that earlier with mono instead of looter and i only got to like 65

[faint wigeon]

great starter

ffs I keep forgetting to take a screenshot for the contest

[neat siren]

i used an ss of my jackpot for it

[narrow rock]

what rank are you for timewaster

[faint wigeon]

yeah my only ss of it are my score only

[faint wigeon]

timewaster is over

but im rank 6

[neat siren]

nvm i lied

[narrow rock]

mine is still there?

[faint wigeon]

#free-gem-contest💎 message

[tiny atlas]

is worth? im like 3 maps off w6 and yes i know that one scarf is better

or do i buy a gem cavern thing

[faint wigeon]

its okay yeah for dmg for when you're wanting to have highest dmg record i guess, and still great before having divine scarf

[neat siren]

did you get the cauldron already

[tiny atlas]

yeah

[neat siren]

then yeah it's not bad

i'd say get one rupie slug if you're not at c13 yet

[faint wigeon]

if you have enough gem after maybe get 2 slug? or save for in 2 weeks when new master release and fomo shop change

[tiny atlas]

im on 680 gems rn, slugs 420

i can wait like 2 days and get 2 slugs

[faint wigeon]

one is not beautiful, you get 1.50x, get 2 so you get a mult of 2x

[tiny atlas]

i think im at c7 rn

[faint wigeon]

well up to you, its just the slug are great for exp to get to c13 faster

[tiny atlas]

isnt this better than 2 slugs though?

[faint wigeon]

yeah, but if you have it already and slug you'll get more xp, also slug will be ruby bonus after getting c13

[neat siren]

interesting, if the upgrade costs too much jade it'll shorten the upgrade button

[neat siren]

seems like you've bought none of these, i'd say that these are better than slugs but slugs are in fomo shop so who knows when they're going away

[faint wigeon]

they are going away in around 2 weeks

[tiny atlas]

is oddities tab permanent or limited?

[faint wigeon]

permanent

[neat siren]

perma

[tiny atlas]

oooh ill keep them for later then

im getting a slug and the pendant, can probably save up for like 2 more slugs by the end of anniversary

[neat siren]

nah no need for that many

2 is more than enough cus they lose half their value once you get to c13

[nocturne patrol]

can i play the game, these pack omg

[tiny atlas]

ahh ight

[tiny atlas]

i missed out on a scratch ticket one day because of this popup 🤬

[hexed galleon]

they will give you 2.25x exp total

buying 6 of them gave me x11 multi, which got me to cavern 13 fast

[tiny atlas]

no idea what rupies are but i shall follow your tips

[faint wigeon]

C11 resources

[hexed galleon]

I wonder if lava changed them after wisdom contest tho

[faint wigeon]

like well or harp version for new cavern and schematics

[tiny atlas]

how many resources are there 😭

[hexed galleon]

we might get 2 more in future, if same patern continues

[tiny atlas]

the neverending grind continues

[hexed galleon]

Gambit tomorrow

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[faint wigeon]

when you get it get the study asap too

[nocturne patrol]

big loot xd

[faint wigeon]

also gambit tomorrow -> more endless win

[hexed galleon]

I might get it by the next reset

[nocturne patrol]

i'm rich omg

[faint wigeon]

gambit?

[hexed galleon]

Study

[faint wigeon]

oh kay

[hexed galleon]

Crazy that I get gambit before getting doublers from event

And I spent 6,4k gems too

7.2k, my math ain't mathing

[nocturne patrol]

wow i'm so happy of getting this artifact kek

[faint wigeon]

peak artifact

[hexed galleon]

this one will be useful (it's useless)

[torn dagger]

still waiting for the game to let me invest in my new pe boxes

[faint wigeon]

just unlock all 6 order 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne patrol]

now multikill per tier artifact uwu

[craggy willow]

If you own a pile of pens you don't need to wait. Complete an order, reset it with a pen, keep going until you meet the unlock criteria.

[bitter pasture]

yo what lvls in the hole do i want to hit now? for each of the villagers

[nocturne patrol]

this noob complaining for silver pen xd

[craggy willow]

I keep part of my pens in my storage chest, just in case I need a few 😅

[nocturne patrol]

use them

so u have them stack in po, no need to keep in storage

[faint wigeon]

odd question, like level of villager? that'd depend on current opal count, exp with full opal, level of villager again, and schematic bought, conjuror bonus and measurer. like just depending on your whole hole progression

[craggy willow]

They get auto-used in po, based on your atom collider ugrades. There are situations where you might want to have some available.

[faint wigeon]

situation where you need them? farm them

not like I'll run out anytime soon

maybe once I get beryllium to lvl 30

[bitter pasture]

like what lvl do i need to reach the lvl that's the last to give upgrades/schematics/measures

[faint wigeon]

oh like that, engi 29, measurer 16

[nocturne patrol]

just dont upgrade this too much

[craggy willow]

First rule of gaming, only use up things when you are sure you won't need them again, which tends to be never. I'd rather have them unused in storage as long as possible, just in case Lava adds something like a stamp that needs pens to upgrade. Also greenstack. 😄

[faint wigeon]

conjuror kinda depends on how many point you bought with gems

[nocturne patrol]

like if u get 50 per day, dont make upgrade make burn 80 per day

and silver pen with choco chip is ez

[faint wigeon]

yeah I have some in storage but whenever I see them in my inventory after crystal farm I use them, hence why it keep going x)

[nocturne patrol]

and some DR ofc

[bitter pasture]

and adventurer 15?

[faint wigeon]

for conjuror its level 66 to max all without buying from gem shop more points

[faint wigeon]

yes of course, explorer is 15

[bitter pasture]

alr ty

[faint wigeon]

its in increments of 5

[torn dagger]

Im only missing the last one but its quite bothersome for the second tab to be locked behind it too

[craggy willow]

Then just use some pens. You can keep completing orders without having to wait, you just need the resources.

[faint wigeon]

im guessing its so you have some points save or used on box already before unlocking new box

[torn dagger]

gotta give value to the gem shop refund of course

[faint wigeon]

don't buy that

[torn dagger]

no of course not but seems like a good reason to make the second tab locked behind all the orders

[nocturne patrol]

game troll me uwu

[craggy willow]

It won't allow you to unlock the second tab faster

Unlocking the second tab is based on how many orders you've completed

[torn dagger]

not what I emplied

[craggy willow]

Not sure what you are implying then. It technically allows you to shift all points from the first tab to the second tab once you unlock it. Most points are better spent on the first tab though at the point where you unlock the second tab.

[gritty cairn]

i have a question

what

the

ACTUAL

FUCK
is Lava on

[neat siren]

they aren't that hard to get though

[gritty cairn]

wdym it costs statues to level up?

[neat siren]

interesting choice for material

[craggy willow]

They have a much higher drop rate than the dragon statues that were initially found in that cavern

[pallid ledge]

🙏

[hexed galleon]

reasonable

[gritty cairn]

when i saw the ladles it was a little funny since you can reach a point where you don't need them, but statues?

[neat siren]

eh there's also drs for the statue anyway

[nocturne patrol]

@neat siren do u have some gems ? for gamba chip moment uwu

[hexed galleon]

there are barely any other drops from caverns

[neat siren]

rn? no

[near cosmos]

He went out of ideas for mats for stamps what you want

[nocturne patrol]

sad

[near cosmos]

Its unique

[neat siren]

i wanna say be glad he didn't make them dragon statues lmfao

then i'd be complaining

villager statues are fine

[craggy willow]

Or dark lanterns, then I'd be complaining more

[neat siren]

please do not give him ideas

[gritty cairn]

if it wrer dragon staturs, i'd be complaining and trying to find him to

just talk about it

[neat siren]

i'm sure that'd be a nice talk

[hexed galleon]

Funny how I wished that Lava won't add more pets, and then day later he releases more

and it's FOMO too

[craggy willow]

I suspect it's going to be regular thing now, a bunch of new pets every month or so. Easter Bunny amd Companion Egg anyone?

[neat siren]

i like the art for the pets but that's it

[gritty cairn]

i'm actually mad about it, i think i'm skipping these packs and a few more

[neat siren]

not the idea of the packs existing or the FOMO of it and how greedy he's becoming

[hexed galleon]

you can be fine with trading pets

[nocturne patrol]

finally

[hexed galleon]

event pack don't give account wide bonuses atleast

only pets and gems

[neat siren]

i guess but good luck getting 3/3 fomo pets f2p if you don't have connections

arguably only one that is absolutely useful is mallay but yeah good luck getting that

[gritty cairn]

yeah, but i don't like the general direction he's going, and i don't want to encourage it by buying, vote with your wallet and all that

[neat siren]

either be lucky with the guarantee (apparently there's only one guarantee? i thought there were gonna be 2) or pray that you know someone who has it and will give it to you

[void shell]

I'm hoping for axolotl

[nocturne patrol]

someone of my guild give me a mallay and a golem, some ppl are so generous on this game

[neat siren]

wow nice

[craggy willow]

Question is, how much is this going to create a feedback loop for future content. Suppose buying everything available gets you to 10000 DR, how rare are recipe drops going to be? If Lava wants to keep end gamers busy, they'll probably have to farm several dozen hours for them. Which would in turn mean that F2P has to farm for several dozen years, which is deep in F2S territory.

[neat siren]

we can only know for sure when we get there, but hopefully it really doesn't come to that

[pastel crest]

Well he did say that w7 is gonna be tough for super endgamers

[hexed galleon]

I hope it would

[pastel crest]

So prob hellish for f2p

[neat siren]

either he adds more non-fomo/paid sources of dr or he just stops doing this practice

[void shell]

I'll find out in a few months , don't even have autoloot lol

[gritty cairn]

or third option, w7 onwards is for whales

[nocturne patrol]

maybe add some drop that are not affect by DR, so evryone have same chance ?

[craggy willow]

It's not just DR, it's about everything future pets could boost to epic proprotions.

[neat siren]

ah yes make everyone quit

this will go well for his earnings

[neat siren]

yeah we already had the first shitshow with doot, now idk how far he's gonna take it

[hexed galleon]

Idk how new world can be for whales only

[pastel crest]

Ludicrous dmg requirements

Accuracy requirements and def requirements with locks for everyone

[neat siren]

he already said he wouldn't ever do another pet like doot but he's definitely still skirting that line

[hexed galleon]

Yet we get samurai

[neat siren]

samurai is not nearly as broken as doot

[pastel crest]

Doot is diff from everything

You cannot compare it with any other pet

[gritty cairn]

yeah, he's not AS broken as doot

[void shell]

like always, barrier of entry for f2ps will be higher (not impossible), will just be stupid painful

[pastel crest]

Maybe vault v4

Kek

[void shell]

nah, samurais is OP asf (doot can be kinda made up with pocket div)

[neat siren]

he really can't

[hexed galleon]

Doot still better

[neat siren]

doot is still much better

[gritty cairn]

how big will the kill requirements for portals be to account for multikill, divinity, kill per kill AND JOCUND multipliers?

[hexed galleon]

Just think of all blessing that you get

[pastel crest]

Yes

[gritty cairn]

if you don't have jocund, you are kinda fucked

[hexed galleon]

uh, minor links bonuses

But I just don't like that Samurai allows different type of progression

Due to huge xp multi

[neat siren]

also not to mention, 2 of the gods haven't been given their bonuses yet

i kinda forgot about that

[neat siren]

doot also just lets people fly past w5 too quickly

[gritty cairn]

doot isn't even at full power yet

[neat siren]

samurai is definitely strong, i will not deny that whatsoever

doot is simply uncomparable

[craggy willow]

Doot disables other game mechanics, which shouldn't ever have happened

[karmic yarrow]

i mean doot is tradeable now so

u can get doot easiser

[neat siren]

yes that wasn't the point of this conversation

[void shell]

There's a rift dude in every pet pack, does that mean there's at least 2 more lol

[neat siren]

you're not supposed to talk about that btw

[gritty cairn]

a 20$ pack EASILY

[hexed galleon]

Probably like 30k gems

[void shell]

delete these messages lol, you're not supposed to be talking about these

[gritty cairn]

if ram was in a 10$ pack, he won't go lower then 20

[hexed galleon]

Not sure what are the rates

[karmic yarrow]

oh shoot

[craggy willow]

I've seen offers up to $100 when trading got introduced, there were moderated away fast

[void shell]

we all about to be muted lol

[karmic yarrow]

no we wont theres no chat mods active

[nocturne patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[neat siren]

that is not true whatsoever

they can just be lurking

[void shell]

you don't know the lengths they go to

[gritty cairn]

i won't buy it since i have doot, but i'm speculating on the price lava would put on it

[neat siren]

i will not risk getting muted again

[karmic yarrow]

this isnt reddit

[gritty cairn]

is the mute permanent?

[neat siren]

you haven't been on this server long enough

initially no, but past a point you get perma muted

[karmic yarrow]

chat mods get paid to mute u

[neat siren]

he kinda did, it's a 200 pull guarantee

[gritty cairn]

it would be my first mute iirc, so i'll risk it

[gritty cairn]

ah yes, the 4 year f2p road

[hexed galleon]

No way Doot gets priced pack

It would be over 100$

[obsidian briar]

YESSS

[gritty cairn]

i hope not but i don't put it past lava

[neat siren]

or you spend the pet gems to get guarantee doot, that'd be like a few hundred dollars at the very least

[tame kayak]

just trade for one with the late streams tons of doot got added cuz everyone got like 3 at a time

[karmic yarrow]

in 4 years u definitely will have a job

[neat siren]

what bonus did you get, i can't tell

[karmic yarrow]

or money

[void shell]

ah, the twist is that you have to pay for the guaranteed

[craggy willow]

You still have to spend cash to make good on the guarantee, the free pull ignores the guarantee

[gritty cairn]

that's fucked up btw

[hexed galleon]

really?

[neat siren]

what?

[void shell]

yeah, it's like that

someone was probably really uhh.. idk to have found that out

[neat siren]

oh yeah true i remember now

[hexed galleon]

I might didn't noticed cuz of pack from giveaway

It gave green gems

[neat siren]

the free pulls only count towards the pity, you still have to spend money to actually make use of the guarantee

[void shell]

He prob woke up thinking that he could get a doot, only to be screwed with this nonsense

[hexed galleon]

Ah, that one

[karmic yarrow]

4 years f2p

[void shell]

with no gurantee

[hexed galleon]

If I remember, odds are 0,8%

[neat siren]

a fake guarantee

[void shell]

knowing my luck, I'm going to be retired before I get it

[neat siren]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[hexed galleon]

So there is still a chance for early doot

[neat siren]

heck have a look at this actually

this was the OG idleon guide sheet, at least, until companions dropped

[hexed galleon]

Actually, getting untradeable doot from pity would suck now

but you might trade it for 1 pet or few anyway, so...

[neat siren]

the only thing that would suck from getting that is the inability to trade it for a pet you don't have

[karmic yarrow]

i mean theres tons of ppl who got doot who would trade for another pet right

[neat siren]

yes definitely

[tame kayak]

i gave my doot away for nothing lol

[neat siren]

but you kinda had to be there on the day of the trading update to really make use of that

and i suppose recently with the new companions

[karmic yarrow]

imagine the whales with 50 doots

[tame kayak]

i still have like 20k green gems idk what to do with

[hexed galleon]

So you only rely on luck with free doot

Getting that 0,8%

[pastel crest]

Wait for next batch of pets?

[tame kayak]

real question is WILL there be another tho

[karmic yarrow]

yes

[pastel crest]

Probably

[void shell]

look at this guy I found at sandypots, never heard of upgrade stones in his life lol

[pastel crest]

Pets make lava alot of money

[tame kayak]

upgrade stones dont show on profiles iirc

[karmic yarrow]

his last character who he never touched

[pastel crest]

Just look at the skull

That's all the proof you need

[void shell]

lol

[void shell]

ah ok, not too sure

[tame kayak]

i have all chars done with w6 never upgraded half of them ngl

[pastel crest]

Tbh all the bonuses from alc help more compared to gear

[void shell]

yeah

upgrade stones do give a sizable amount of base stats though

[karmic yarrow]

is level 700 max or something

[tame kayak]

no it just gets REALLY slow

[neat siren]

one piece of gear may not be huge but all of them added up is insane

[hexed galleon]

no, it's probably just their ocd kicked in

[clear fog]

is there any way to increase new plant chance in gaming? only need chem, already doing the 1plant claims ;-;

[tame kayak]

gamba gamba

[pastel crest]

Nop

[karmic yarrow]

just keep clicking

[clear fog]

is there like a pity system or smth? ivee been cliicking for weeks lol

[tame kayak]

no 🙂

[clear fog]

damn i read wiki and it says there is but idk if i wanted to believe

[tame kayak]

i dont recall there being one anyways

[clear fog]

"If you fail to unlock a new mutation, your next attempt has a higher chance!" ???

[sage swan]

Does droprate affect Plunderous Mob Coin drop?

[clear fog]

maybe its only a one time applied thing

[karmic yarrow]

just keep c,icking

[clear fog]

okay :p

[neat siren]

snowball soon?

[solar drift]

soon = 1-2 weeks btw

[hexed galleon]

[solar drift]

unless you just unlocked it with the saved bean

and have other crop still

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[hexed galleon]

I probably should do some breeding

[solar drift]

Ah that breeding

[hexed galleon]

That's the only one I know

[peak verge]

I can show you another

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-hehe-kiss-meme-kissing-meme-black-guy-kiss-gif-23557764

[hexed galleon]

[solar drift]

🍿

[sand summit]

time to gamba 5 lab chips from gem store

[rocky tendon]

so for Jars in the Hole,does the "double" jar work for rolling new collectibles/enchantments?

[sand summit]

praying for the card doubler i need more crystal spawn chance

[hexed galleon]

just x2 chance for it as I understand

So instead of it being 16/1 for example, it would be 17/2

[novel ice]

can someone help me get more min/crit damage and more accuracy

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-cauldron-witchs-brew-potion-spells-gif-23621556

[novel ice]

thats what everyone says, and it barely helps😔

[sand summit]

gg i won the gamble

[hexed galleon]

[sand summit]

now im trynna finish charms by next week

[hexed galleon]

Im not going to pay for that

[sand summit]

i am 😄

is either those or opals and ppl told me to not buy opals and pristine charms are worth it

[peak verge]

pristine charms are worth but considerably later on

[sand summit]

okay. ill keep gambling lab chips then

[hexed galleon]

I guess comb worth it

[sand summit]

1 in 43 crystal spawn chance lets goo

[hexed galleon]

Later on it might be easier to get them casually

[near cosmos]

Do chance for loot upgrage affect them?

[hexed galleon]

no, but it makes process faster

[near cosmos]

Understandable

I got only 1 so far

[hexed galleon]

Im at 2 charms

[sand summit]

join me on the dark side. buy em all

[hexed galleon]

But also Im not at that point when I can loot a lot of items

Still getting trough mastery 1

[near cosmos]

Im f2p my "wishlist" for gemshop overflowed😅

Im not even on mastery yet xD

[stable parrot]

Do you do your f2p gem farming?

[near cosmos]

Dont have time to do all, but most yeah

[hexed galleon]

150 bosses is my daily routine

[simple wadi]

With this week's ballot buff, I've gone up three rooms in mastery 3 sneaking, but I don't see myself getting any farther anytime soon.

[sand summit]

damn the increase in statues im getting from 1 in 63 crystal mobs to 1 in 43 is kinda wild the hell

[stable parrot]

Ah alright, that’s unfortunate but understandable

[near cosmos]

Main task survive to summer, there things will be better

[barren sandal]

haaaaaaaaa

the end looms

[stable parrot]

I feel that, I haven’t done any daily bosses in a long time

Relatively speaking

[near cosmos]

Looks like time to use my black friday stash for 2x explorar

[stable parrot]

Bad timing, they just got nerfed apparently

[near cosmos]

Real? Awww

[stable parrot]

I haven’t seen the testing for it but I have seen it for the doot nerf, so I’m trusting that they were right

[barren sandal]

do later plants have lower mutation rates? or did I just get lucky with the first few t7s

[near cosmos]

I will do the testing rn lol

[stable parrot]

Honestly no idea, maybe wiki has it

[barren sandal]

don't think it does

yeah, nothing

[near cosmos]

Didnt now that guild box can drop nothing

Seems about right, they got seriously nerfed

22 boxes: 3 drops 25 gems (75)
Candies - 1 1h, 1 2h, 1 4h
2k exp potion, ballons and reset pot fragments, nice

When before just 6 boxes could give you almost 2x gems

[chilly trellis]

what was the optimal genetic upgrade strategy again?

just click whenever it's like 1% ?

[stable parrot]

Spam click

After every harvest all or even every plant, I remember seeing one dude do it after every plant collect but you could be fine with after every harvest

[chilly trellis]

yeah, too much min max in non-fun ways would ruin the game for me

so I'll stick to click cactutusi -> harvest all -> click research once xd

[near cosmos]

That's optimal strat

I personally did after 3-4 plants

But thats bit of hassle😅

[chilly trellis]

does multi chop chance increase xp gain?

[rotund galleon]

How big is the connection buff in W4 merit shop? Is it 1 px per?

[rotund galleon]

only drop amount

might be wrong tho, but 90% sure its just drop amount

[hexed galleon]

Yes

[rotund galleon]

Holy, that is trash

[hexed galleon]

Not really

Cuz that bonus affect connection to bonuses

[stable parrot]

It’s like free con range

[eager bridge]

I'm always sad when I get those

[stable parrot]

Huh?

[hexed galleon]

It makes easier for 1 character to connect to multiple bonuses

[rotund galleon]

Wait, it buff the nodes connection range?

[hexed galleon]

Yes

[rotund galleon]

Oh that aint that bad thn

[stable parrot]

Con range is node to toon
Line width is toon to toon

[rotund galleon]

ight

[zinc torrent]

This thing is huge for no samurai. Went from around 25ish million villager exp to 96m in few days

[rotund galleon]

which cavern do i unlock jars?

[stable parrot]

C11

[rotund galleon]

is it in the glow cavern?

[rotund galleon]

that glow?

[stable parrot]

What

[rotund galleon]

is that the second cavern type

[stable parrot]

No

[rotund galleon]

The one after?

[stable parrot]

Yes

[rotund galleon]

so far away 😭

Is there any W5 quests which give cavern lanterns?

[stable parrot]

No

[rotund galleon]

😭

[stable parrot]

What cavern are you on rn?

[rotund galleon]

Should i dump my 650 gems onto villagers then or do i keep saving for W6 mushroom thign

[zinc torrent]

Did you buy them all when they were free in gem shop?

[rotund galleon]

Harp

[stable parrot]

Ah

You have a bit to go

[rotund galleon]

Im focusin exp on conjurer too, so its gonna take even longer

but hopefully pays off longer term

[stable parrot]

Send your conjur point set up

[zinc torrent]

I got 12 that I'm currently saving. Glad I did, went from about 60m last night to 90m with good enchant rng on that one

[rotund galleon]

Ight just tryna do some sailin research

not sure if i should do this new island which takes 7 hrs or just stick to my current which basically gives me nothing but 2 hrs

[potent panther]

how do i increase the minor link bonus except for big p

[rotund galleon]

Divinity lvl

[potent panther]

oh

[simple wadi]

Lol I've had way less luck getting my lesser plants (grass and shrooms) to evolve than my higher tier plants.

[barren sandal]

Lmfao

[gritty sierra]

how does infinite star signs work... for example i have it aligned even though its infinite and my fishing eff is 2444T i unalign it... and its 2245T even though the star sign has an infinite symbol under it

[barren sandal]

The only reason to align when a sign is infinite is the active star sign doubling chip
otherwise it doesn’t change anything

[wanton pollen]

You have bonus that boost aligned star

[gritty sierra]

hooohhh oh ok

theres too many damn things in this game to keep track of lmao

[arctic notch]

just got ib w5 what should I aim for?

[odd socket]

get to the hole

[arctic notch]

done

the cavern right?

if u open map u can just teleport there

[simple wadi]

ib? What's that mean?

[wanton pollen]

Typo "in" mb

Looking at contex

[fiery igloo]

Anyone got arena spreadsheet

[green delta]

Sup gang its been awhile how to get the gladiator trophy?

[fiery igloo]

*pet

[simple wadi]

If they're new to W5, they should read the "New to W5" guide in pinned messages.

[green delta]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml

[arctic notch]

in

[simple wadi]

Read the pinned messages. There's a guide to W5 for new players.

[fiery igloo]

Can I use peapod instead

[green delta]

Alr thx gang

[fiery igloo]

Or ratler itself

[green delta]

Errrr just follow the ability if can but if u dont have those oets in ss is best u use the ones u have

[simple wadi]

I'd replace time block with peapod.

[fiery igloo]

Time block ?

[fiery igloo]

For this

[simple wadi]

You can try it. I didn't use time block at all for the last three spice fights.

[fiery igloo]

But won't u get oneshotted with the monolith

[wanton pollen]

As long as everything done right no

[arctic notch]

ist there a pet that lets u use all gods at the same time?

[fiery igloo]

Doot

[wanton pollen]

Havent did last 2 as havent pushed w6, but first 2 territories was pretty easy

[arctic notch]

well

ive spun 4 free compannisioms

i got 4 moltis in a row

[simple wadi]

Sounds about right

[arctic notch]

and from the birthday candle thing I got 2 axoltls

[fiery igloo]

I thought monolith was a must damn ok

[arctic notch]

wahhh 😭😭😭

[simple wadi]

Monolith hasn't been recommended in ages. Trasher replaced monolith a long time ago. You must be reading old guides.

[teal panther]

For sailing, should I have everyone push for clouds then gang up on priority artifacts? So far I've just been leaving a ship behind and all new ships push for the next cloud

[simple wadi]

Yes, except for the ships that are going to take like...20 days to do a round trip to the cloud. They're better off artifact finding.

[teal panther]

Good point. Thank you!

[magic palm]

Does goharut work if you are connected to the lab with the bear?

[cyan pulsar]

when do I get the 6th rupie?

[magic palm]

What is that?

[cyan pulsar]

the hole

[magic palm]

Which part?

[cyan pulsar]

Im trying to get the 6th one but I cant seem to get it

first of the new ones

[magic palm]

Oh. I only just got the hole

[daring zephyr]

Get 500k purple rupies

[cyan pulsar]

alr thanks

[fiery igloo]

Oh shi what's the new setups then

Any sheet for it

[arctic current]

does anybody know who is the white guy to the left of the screen? im asking here cuz he appeared to me when i joined 5th world

Timmy

[lilac vault]

No, not that way

[indigo sable]

where is this one but for less

like where is the document i have to check the 4 one

[fiery igloo]

.

Check this sheet

[indigo sable]

lmao

[indigo sable]

thanks

[fiery igloo]

Mb I meant sheet

[indigo sable]

no worries thanks

[near cosmos]

I unlocked sovereign and even got 2 of them

[fiery igloo]

+1

[regal cypress]

why does the break all only show up for me when theres no jars?

[spare ferry]

It’s a bug

[regal cypress]

ahhh okay

thought I was doing smth wrong

[spare ferry]

Nope, inconvenient for all

[lucid wadi]

okay so I have some strange bug but want to ask a question first if anyone knows why.

if it matters I'm playing another game (valheim) while Idleon is idling. I have 1 character in the kitchen, 8 doing divinity and 1 who is actively autoing in w5. however. I've had my phone set for an hour for catching, but when I tab back into the game, I find my BM has only been away for 40 minutes for some reason, and my traps are not done.

Anyone know what could be up?

[simple wadi]

You have the game running on two different devices at the same time?

[lucid wadi]

no it's just on pc

and my only instance of the game

[bleak gazelle]

I assume by phone they meant alarm

[lucid wadi]

yeah i set a 1 hour alarm on my phone so I know when it's time to check traps

[simple wadi]

If you have your PC set to not consume system resources for background programs while you're in a game, it could be causing a nasty desync on your Idleon game.

[lucid wadi]

okay, I better fix that. Do you know how I can do so?

[worn idol]

what is the "Monumental Vibes Bonus"? Trying to use the momument spreadsheet and I have no clue what that is

[simple wadi]

Windows Settings > Gaming > Game Mode

[lucid wadi]

do I want game mode on or off?

[simple wadi]

That's the one built into Windows. But there's also a lot of programs that have similar settings, such as in Nvidia's App or Razer's bloated apps.

[stable parrot]

Oof, that’s not much to work with

[simple wadi]

Game Mode on reduces resource allocation to background tasks. If it's off, you could try turning it on and see if Windows detects Idleon as a game and allocates more resources to it. But if game mode has been on this whole time, you could try turning it off.

[lucid wadi]

okay

[simple wadi]

I also run my games in borderless windowed mode when at all possible. I find Idleon runs better that way when it's in the background.

[lucid wadi]

I turned it off and took a look at my game. noticed it lagging on the side. That shouldn't happen with my rig.

does idleon lagging really mess with the timers?

[simple wadi]

It can, yes.

[lucid wadi]

well that's... janky.

But obviously I need to find a fix asap

I ended some nvidia processes.

[simple wadi]

Out of curiosity, what's all in your rig?

[lucid wadi]

maybe that will help as suggested

[lucid wadi]

I'll just screenshot my dxdiag lol.

[light bough]

Am i suppose to unlock 900 more unlocks to get this???

[simple wadi]

There are none. It's an abandoned system

[simple wadi]

7800X3D with a 4070. Yeah, your system should have 0 issues running Idleon in the background.

[lucid wadi]

precisely. so there's clearly something messing with it.

I was also having extreme lag at times when playing with it as the main focus, and it turns out I had to disable fullscreen optimisation on steam to fix it

I ended processes for nvidia software running in the background

[lucid wadi]

I'm thinking maybe that was causing an issue. it was mentioned here.

And I don't have any razer hardware so it's not that.

[arctic current]

how can people get redox combustion tier 1k... it takes me 100 days to level up

[lucid wadi]

okay, gonna keep watching the game on the side for a little bit while i'm palying, but as of now I haven't noticed any lag.

[simple wadi]

Mine maxes out about 4 times a day. My limiting factor is that I only check it once or twice a day, lol

[near cosmos]

100 days sound very bad, it should take that much at any stage of the game

[marble lotus]

currently heavily bottlenecked by villager XP @24M/h what can I do

[arctic current]

maybe i skipped some multiplier?

[left kindle]

oh hell yeah I wake up to a fill inventory of silvers 😄

[marble lotus]

redox tiers get faster after you get to 1M cap

[simple wadi]

Are you seeing this number and thinking it means how long it'll take to reach 100% power?

[arctic current]

yes

[near cosmos]

Oh

[arctic current]

no but wait

[simple wadi]

That's how many days of resources you have, lol

[glad isle]

nice

we love free obols

[arctic current]

i cant send screenshots but i've joined the game now after 80 days of afk and i am at 130k of redox/200k for power up

[near cosmos]

Base speed for cycle is about 4 mins

Synthesys is 4x combustion

[arctic current]

how can i get synthesys

[lucid wadi]

okay so it's still a little laggy. maybe I should reboot the game after turning game mode off

[manic latch]

should i use focus, or chakra?

[meager egret]

Finally arrived at world 5 , probably gonna simmer here to catch up on some other system and mechanics

[near cosmos]

Its second refinery tab, there 6 salts in the game
And by 4x i mean 4x longer time

[simple wadi]

I don't know why Vivaldi is bringing up synthesis since we're talking about Redox.

[lucid wadi]

okay there was another setting on windows called optimastion for windowed games. I'll turn that off since idleon is windowed

[arctic current]

oh that's what you ment

[near cosmos]

I said about speed, so i mentioned sync as well

But i guess that was off yeah my bad....

[simple wadi]

Anyway,

[arctic current]

god damn this is so usefull

[lyric wadi]

What level do the buffs stop for Engineer and Measurer now?

[simple wadi]

As was said before - Redox goes faster the more you rank it up.

[simple wadi]

15 - 29 - inf - 16 - inf

[lyric wadi]

Awesome, those are the levels I happen to have stopped on anyways, thank you!

[arctic current]

i am level 130 construction w all characters is it low?

[left kindle]

yes

[simple wadi]

Yes. Your DK should be way higher

[lucid wadi]

okay watching the game it's still choppy. Does anyone know what could be messing with it?

[glad isle]

how's ur power statues grind at

[late marsh]

love being on like case 20 and having 0 retirement chests

[glad isle]

rng

[simple wadi]

As you can see, my DK is over double my other characters' level.

[rugged ember]

Do the Minor Link Bonuses are all active if you have doot?

[left kindle]

Got this for overnight 6 hours

[glad isle]

nice

[arctic current]

oh mine is 150

[junior iron]

Is it normal that it doesn't count the divine scarf as equipped?

[left kindle]

Total progress

[glad isle]

nice

only 6.5k more

[glad isle]

i should probably grind this

byee

[left kindle]

so just another ~10 hours and then I unlock onyx

[simple wadi]

I've thought for a while, "Why do people care so much about force capacity?" But now that I'm active on SB again... holy crap I burn through 1 billion godshard ore in two days.

[stable parrot]

Uh

I burn through 3B every forge use

And I still hardly have any GS bars

[lucid wadi]

I think I fixed it by adding idleon to my list of games on windows.

[sage swan]

Does Sailing Speed and Artifact Find Chance constellation only work on the person opening the map and chest? or should I just use that on all characters

[stable parrot]

On checker

[simple wadi]

Only the one you have them equipped to

[stable parrot]

Star signs only work if that character is active

[simple wadi]

Define "hardly have," because I went from getting about 8k bars a day to about 150k bars a day with my SB.

[silent spade]

Does Mantra only Work with other Mantra users or does every other syle get the XP as well?

[simple wadi]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[silent spade]

Thx

[stable parrot]

Like 9M

[simple wadi]

Then yeah, you're way ahead of me with forge.

[stable parrot]

GS vial

[simple wadi]

I've had one GS weapon that I trade between my warriors. That's all I've been able to make until today, lol

[silent spade]

But my question ist still kinda unanswerd
Does only Mantra interact only with each other or every style

[stable parrot]

How would it interact with another style?

[simple wadi]

Mantra doesn't interact with other styles. It's just an exp source.

[silent spade]

@simple wadi thx

[simple wadi]

So a chr without mantra would get exp from their own style + the exp given from your character with mantra equipped.

[lucid wadi]

Yeah okay no. I can't seem to figure out what's causing the lag.

@simple wadi you seem to know your stuff here. Do you know what programmes can cause this, or what windows settings I can change. I've tried the suggested. Tried ending process for all the background nvidia apps too.

[left kindle]

Well what's lagging?

[lucid wadi]

only when i'm running the game in the background while i'm playing valheim with a friend

[left kindle]

is your ram filling up?

[lilac vault]

Yeah, that would probably lag it lol

[lucid wadi]

no, plenty of memory left.

[simple wadi]

I know Nvidia used to have a max background fps limit setting, but I don't know where it is in their new app.

[left kindle]

is your FPS uncapped?

Check task manager while you have the game open and see if you're maxing out on anything

[lucid wadi]

i'm not maxing out on anything. But could this be it? steam is saying this:

my idleon is on steam

but the main game i'm playing atm with a friend, Valheim, is not having issues.

[simple wadi]

Check your performance section of task manager

[lucid wadi]

hmmm okay, gpu 1 seems to be struggling here

specifically 3d

maybe it's valheim itself causing an issue

[simple wadi]

When you're running a game, your GPU will naturally max itself. That's not an issue.

[lucid wadi]

aight. learning something new every day

[simple wadi]

Looks fine to me

[lucid wadi]

so that isn't the issue then

I think something somewhere is considering idleon as a background application while i'm playing valheim and distributing less memory to it to feed it to valheim. maybe,

or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about

[simple wadi]

That's what I'm thinking too, but I don't know what could be doing it.

To be fair, Idleon is poorly coded and desyncs are common. It's not uncommon for me to cloud save only for the game to tell me my chr (that I just logged off of) has been AFK for 30 minutes.

[simple wadi]

That sure is a picture.

[rotund galleon]

Thats why ima grind conjure, and max the first blue node and then do watever

[left kindle]

hell yeah we love useless perks 😄

[nova swan]

Bravery opal chance being that high kinda hurts

[vast tartan]

Hi, if i pray at the monument justice, did i won some coin boost or just the bonus every step ?

[lilac vault]

If you have the schematic, it gives you more coins with diminishing returns

[lunar epoch]

@left kindle this is why i put it in is it good or bad, why they useless

[lilac vault]

They’re definitely choices for early bravery

[left kindle]

The BFR and villager exp is good so it's good that you prioritized those

[lilac vault]

Lvl 2 mining eff

[left kindle]

but yeah that lmao

5% is a bit silly

[lunar epoch]

yeaaah, i skipped alot of the perks if the buckets n stuff are there, but i threw a few runs

[barren sandal]

lmfao

[keen trellis]

try to set idleon as a higher priority on your task manager

[lunar epoch]

jakey boi, ima need soma does

[mighty relic]

you have enough money

iam kind of counfused

[glass herald]

what does it mean when I try to buy a captain and his popover UI thing just bobs up and down without actually making the purchase? verified slot open

also verified rich enough

[mighty relic]

do you have lag from anay kind

[glass herald]

ehh nvm seems like a momentary bug, did cloudsave fixedd

[mighty relic]

ohhh that is good

[glass herald]

wish you could tell how many ppl you assigned to which island lol

idk which to double up on now

[solar flame]

if i have all opals in one villager does this give 0% bc the other villagers have 0 opals?

sad 😦

[nocturne patrol]

new content poggers

[near cosmos]

Another one "done"

[thorny comet]

Guys how can i beat all the 6 first towers easily?

[mighty relic]

i wnat to afk in cavren 9 is DK the best for that?

[mighty relic]

upgrade your towers

[near cosmos]

Why does steam cloudsave dont work sometimes, i only now noticed that 2 sovereign i got 2 hours ago didnt saved

[thorny comet]

Oh i wanted to ask what towers to upgrade that wont take long time

[frank prairie]

not even a 9800x3d

[mighty relic]

lighting becous of the rang poison lord thing and more party guys

best things

[lucid wadi]

[frank prairie]

correct way to play

[nocturne patrol]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# check tower defense section and see lvl of towers for each worship and waves

fail

@thorny comet

[thorny comet]

ohhh thank you very much

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-overload-computer-overheat-in-fire-gif-7521895808184892476

thats mine when i use bubo for CCs

[frank prairie]

im finally doing my eclipse skulls are you proud @solar drift

[thorny comet]

got to the rift

[nocturne patrol]

how much dr for this bruh

[solar drift]

no

[frank prairie]

what about now

[solar drift]

no

i gave up on you

[frank prairie]

its pretty cooked for me

need 1000x to hit now

[thorny comet]

You in world 5 with that?

[solar drift]

i miss 11 collectible

[frank prairie]

yea these are my stats

if you are not here before w6 idk what to tell you

[thorny comet]

I think you are a bit lacking for world 5

[frank prairie]

my alt account is in w5

[thorny comet]

Addicted player gotta get that dubble idleon exprine

[frank prairie]

I actually made it a while ago

just logged on after 6 months

i was in w4 a few days agp

[thorny comet]

Nicee

[frank prairie]

soon w6

[solar drift]

anyway ed, you have 2 days to make me proud while i am gone

you got this

[frank prairie]

a whole 2 days to wait for my justice to go back to 21x

[nocturne patrol]

ez

[solar drift]

i will be back on saturday for justice run

[nocturne patrol]

dont leave us uwu

who gonna carry me w2 dungeon

[solar drift]

no one because is a shit dungeon

[nocturne patrol]

True

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/goma-peach-gif-1642792778705518688

[frank prairie]

I can carry you

[sage swan]

how do I take sailing goldbars for pirate porkchop quest??

[cloud flame]

just have them and itll count

[sage swan]

problem is it is not counting ⚰️

[frank prairie]

if you guys didnt know this is how youre supposed to play idleon

anything else is too slow

[cloud flame]

reset quest

[sage swan]

I went to cloud save and exit and came back ⚰️

idk why even idleon efficiency is laggging for me

[left kindle]

Missing w1 pot

[frank prairie]

i use it for healing but yeah you get the idea

the cooking speed from vault was so needed

[glass herald]

holkd up

is this affected by carry cap somehow??

why does my dk have so much more forge space than every other non archer

[solar drift]

@frank prairie

[frank prairie]

4x mine

[nocturne patrol]

poggers

[solar seal]

its why in early anvil - the strategy is full speed and use your capacity bag to make up any need for capacity.
later once you are late game w/ strong investment into hammer hammer bubble, that can cover some of your speed need so you'll revert back to putting some into capacity

[solar drift]

either way i have 11 collecitble left, if the next one is not minecraft collectible i am cooked

[glass herald]

def been neglecting the material-purchased points on every char lol

but good to know about carry cap, I'll boost everyone so I can start making thread without too much pain

[bitter echo]

my villager xp went from like 9.2m to 7.5m and i dont know why...

swapped opals from measurer to engineer, but my engineer is also doubled

[pallid shore]

Hourly bubbling hammer hammer bubble is extremely strong. Would recommend.

[glass herald]

wish the construction arm would just deposit every character sign in

what's even the point of once a day

[frank prairie]

need those 10000x jars

even then after your enchants will be giga cooked

[solar drift]

yes because is only 1 x 10.000x jar

this is not bad

[bitter echo]

i cant figure out for the life of me how ive lost villager xp

i even hit a new 10 opal threshold and its worse than it was before

[solar drift]

but is probably incorrect because not enough sample yet

[solar drift]

you probably bouht rupie slug

and you unlocked c13

[bitter echo]

i have 0 rupie slugs and have had c13 for about a week now, we were talking the other day where i took points out of contented creator and that put me from 9.3m to 9.12m xp per hour

and that was at 119 opals, im now at 120 and getting 7.3m

only thing that changed is ive now unlocked m12, but that cant be a factor

as this is my engineer xp thats this low

[frank prairie]

it could be villager statue bugging out

[solar drift]

upgrade from gemshop ?

[frank prairie]

go check your statues and check again

[bitter echo]

i have all 5 gemshop upgrades, ill try eds suggestion

[frank prairie]

for me that was my problem

when i randomly lost a few billion xp

[bitter echo]

odd, still no change, did you just click w1 statue guy and then go back?

[glass herald]

the void tier carry bag seems like lava threw us a bone lol, so easy to make compared to higher tier

[frank prairie]

ye

[bitter echo]

still no change, damn this is upsetting cus thats like a 20% loss in my xp rate

more actually cause of the new 10 opal threshold i hit

also unrelated but funny visual bug, no border on m12 lol

[nocturne patrol]

good for 30 min afk or trash ?

[glass herald]

slow I think

did it enable fighting the boss one?

[nocturne patrol]

y i'm only at colo 2

[near cosmos]

Is dismiss cant be used in a row or smth in justice?

I couldt use it on harbinger after using it at king bean for chest

[bitter echo]

seems someone else had the same issue when they did a gem reset and posted it yesterday in bug reports

i can only hope it gets fixed

[near cosmos]

Oh, welp hope it gets fixed, inconvenient bit

[bitter echo]

very 😦

ah well i cant do anything about it so time to continue the lvl 500 all grind (yesterday i forgot to put choco chip on my 8th character and wondered why it was taking so much longer XD )

[simple wadi]

There's a new Justice optional thing from the bag of coins where he'll give you a shit ton of coins... but you can never dismiss reaper again. You probably did that.

[near cosmos]

Wow measure bonus so strong, from 10m went to 10b of note thats huge

[bitter echo]

its so many coins that ive opted for using dismisses initially rather than tanking with mental health if i cant pay off reaper anymore

gonna try a vman speedrun once i hit level 500 all aswell and see if i can make it to wurms, gonna start in w5 and push only that, as i want that vial to 13

[near cosmos]

Oh, well maybe, there was few bag encounters, need to check guide for 100%, but seems like its the issue, thanks

[simple wadi]

I was wrong, it's the Mr. Monopoly guy.

[near cosmos]

Oh no, i trusted them too much

[light bough]

When farming bosses, should i only focus on drop rate? or does any form of multi kill/ damage effect the drops?

[near cosmos]

I accept them without even reading as i knew its usully good xD

Need to be careful now dam

[manic island]

only dr for bosses

use the midas minded prayer since the downside doesnt affect bosses

[solar drift]

when you farm for bosses and want to get something rare from it ? just pray

[near cosmos]

I will get c11 in 5 days yay

[simple wadi]

Nice. C11 is slow at first, but when you get it going it's some monstrous gains.

[nocturne patrol]

wat is c11 ?

[bitter echo]

bell villager xp, is it multiplicative? as im considering a reset

[simple wadi]

Jar Jar

[nocturne patrol]

Oh

[near cosmos]

Yeah i saw some of bonuses and its pretty huge

I would like the afk monument one, 90% is not enough😅

[fallen herald]

I havent gotten to rift 46 but what's the requirement to 5* a card

[bitter echo]

a ton of card drops, check the card for count

[simple wadi]

I believe it's additive, but the % bonus it gives is pretty noteworthy.

[bitter echo]

also, do chaotic chizoar asap, its shrine and its number isnt accurate, only requires about 32 cards

[fallen herald]

Few ten thousand I assume?

[fallen herald]

I just got it to gold

[bitter echo]

chaotic chizoar is a strong ruby and absolutely free so 100% ruby it

[simple wadi]

Depends on the card. Later cards require tens of thousands of cards for ruby.

[fallen herald]

Need more keys and a better cardiovascular

[fallen herald]

Looking at crystal carrot and the crystal spawn rate ones

[bitter echo]

make sure youre doin your dilapidated slush kills for keys

[fallen herald]

Yep I just started so my friends said let it go to 5 then do it weekly

Waiting for it to respawn to 2

[bitter echo]

poop isnt too bad to ruby, genie is a pain, though i cardified both of them as i had cardifiers and i didnt have rift 46 yet XD

make sure you ES for card farming

[fallen herald]

Rn I'm just leaving my dk to farm power statues
I wanna see what's my rate per hour

[simple wadi]

I don't know how many for ruby, but here's how many I have, haha

[bitter echo]

though for bosses specifically, you want vman for cards as hes got bonus card rate talent

yeah crystals have high card rate due to being "rare" mobs, so youll ruby them fast

[fallen herald]

Yea after like 4 runs I realised I should have done it on vman lmao

[simple wadi]

😔

[fallen herald]

Damn thats a lot

[bitter echo]

standard w6 things XD

[hazy atlas]

so what does this do?

[fallen herald]

I'm ignoring world 6 pushing to focus on backtracking

[simple wadi]

Nothing

[bitter echo]

yeah usually when you reach w6 its time to start backtracking

[fallen herald]

I'm stuck at woodlin spirits with my low dps

Well I can just afk there but backtracking seems more important

A few months to farm for that card doubler chip 💀

[near cosmos]

I have 20k and its turned ruby, so its in 10-20k diapazone

[fallen herald]

Rift is such a slog mayne

[simple wadi]

Indeed, 10-20k diaper zone /seriousnod

[near cosmos]

Also i noticed boss cards applied wrong for some reason :/

When there 2-3 cards its add only 1

W1 boss only thought

So mb not that much of problem as he isnt hard to farm

[quartz tide]

What are the ideal goals for Monument? I have 2K justice. Do I do 2k bravery, then wisdom, then back to justice for 5k?

[simple wadi]

10k bravery is a good one, but the 24k is meh. 24k on Justice is amazing and worth going for. 5k on Wisdom is also amazing and worth going for, but the 10k and 24k are meh.

[nocturne patrol]

poggers

[quartz tide]

What is the ideal/efficient progression?

pushing for 5K wisdom, then 10k bravery, then 24k justice?

[simple wadi]

Sure

[nocturne patrol]

i wait to have 100% chance on up stone for this ?

[quartz tide]

I sent mine because I am aways from 100

% chance

IMO marbiglass is pretty fast upgrade

[nocturne patrol]

i'm gonna keep them for dr

[quartz tide]

you can make more than one

[nocturne patrol]

need more nullo salt aha

first craft i use nullo salt on

[tropic mural]

Should I go for Vman?

[quartz tide]

ya but for your second pair, you can just upgrade it

You are going to wait a long time to get 10+ pairs of shoes, you might as well go marbi for a set for your pusher

[nocturne patrol]

marb is bad no ?

[quartz tide]

Depends on your stats. 7% all stat can be better than dam. There are also so many sources of dam

My emperor ring beats out a 20% dam ring by quite a bit

[cinder osprey]

good on bubo

[zinc torrent]

Isn't marb best for sampling, too?

[nocturne patrol]

oh true % stat big for more efficiency

only piece of troll set with DR is boot ?

[quartz tide]

and helm

[zenith cape]

Is god rank important? I sure hope not

[nocturne patrol]

Ty

i miss so much craft on boss cuz of achieve i dont have

[simple wadi]

There's a few bonuses to it, but it's a low priority.

[remote knoll]

what is the best enemy to fight for cranium cooking

[simple wadi]

W5 Wurms

[zenith cape]

Oh good. Any of the bonuses worth it?

[nocturne patrol]

u can start little jail hole if u just get god rank

[zenith cape]

A jail hole you say?

[nocturne patrol]

y bravery/justice etc

[near cosmos]

I can think only about dmg talent on es that based on godrank

[simple wadi]

This sounds like a BDSM/corn skit.

[gilded verge]

Is it worth doing arcade now or better to wait for a better gold ball bonus?

[zenith cape]

Now for the bonus since next bonus will be lava knows when

I would think

[simple wadi]

I'd do it now. It could be a month or two before the next bonus. And Lava says he'd added a bonus 20% chance for the ball to bounce to the right along with the gold ball bonus.

But that bonus is hidden, and you should never take Lava at his word.

[gilded verge]

The q is whether there will be a larger bonus near the end of the event

[simple wadi]

How the hell would any of us know?

Take the gamble if you want.

[near cosmos]

But he changed it with the years surely, two years ago you could visually see it bounces to rigth more often when using 100 balls and more

[zinc torrent]

I mean... I guess it depends on if you need gold balls rn for this rotation

[remote knoll]

the tremor wurms?

[warm skiff]

Is there a bug with the hounds in caverns? I keep getting white screened now that I'm beating my HS

[near cosmos]

are you using Db?

[simple wadi]

I've not heard of this. You might want to check #bug-reports-🐛

[amber lake]

How high should Bolaia be leveled up to? At the beginning, right after unlocking c12

[warm skiff]

Thank you, I just wanted to check before reporting it incase it's only me

[simple wadi]

Imo until it takes longer than a day to level Bolaia. Then switch to something more useful. It's up to you - there's no long and hard rule about it.

[amber lake]

Alright

[remote knoll]

whats the next best spot for cranium cooking besides tremor wurms because i dont have enough defence to survive their

[zinc torrent]

Citrine i think

[remote knoll]

thank you

[rotund galleon]

RAAHAHH!!! 2 GARBAGE OFF

[barren sandal]

bingo moment

I bought 10 tickets and it paid off
got the bag with the last one

[bold star]

for gaming should i have the cat rock on for the majority of times or not?

[barren sandal]

if you're getting the same evolution tiers without it turn it off

eventually it'll be on all the time for instant gaming

[bold star]

ok thank you

[frozen oyster]

That was enough to win?

[barren sandal]

no
look at the middle row

this was the last ticket lol

[frozen oyster]

Oh gotcha gotcha

[barren sandal]

it's really just get lucky with the all mult

or y'know, the 1% chance for a 4444

[frozen oyster]

Yeh it’s just hope you get a bunch of multi

[orchid moss]

FINALLY

past another glass cannon lock

[frozen oyster]

Is nut and stick needed for 100% arena?

[orchid moss]

you need some borger

and probably 2 refiller yea

[frozen oyster]

Where is bother

Borger******

[cloud flame]

nutto

[orchid moss]

nutto is probably the one you get the earliest

[frozen oyster]

F

I got Shelbie first

Guess I will go get nut and stick

[orchid moss]

you could try with defender

[barren sandal]

it doesn't matter which one you have the genetics are identical in function

two refillers is important tho
goblin and stick

[frozen oyster]

Yeh still need to get them. Sucks pastpres doesn’t do literally anything

[barren sandal]

I mean
if you're at pastpres multi you can definitely reach sticks

like, no problem

I might be slightly fond of monument afk

[nova plover]

should i get the one in the right first time seeing it

[orchid moss]

no that shit is ass

[rotund galleon]

vill exp 🤑

[barren sandal]

it's worth it, up to a point

I got it to 250 for 10x opal chance

[orchid moss]

yea i guess it's fine for early hole

[barren sandal]

then ignore forever :3

did the same with justice and doing it for wisdom lol

[urban bramble]

How do i make divinity faster

[barren sandal]

div exp and point sources

[orchid moss]

you dont

basically it's just making sure you're on the best stance you can be on

and upgrading stuff like blessings

[urban bramble]

That thing takes forever i been afking all day and still can’t get the first one

[orchid moss]

and doing sailing

[orchid moss]

are you active afking?

but also that sounds normal

[urban bramble]

Nope

Is it worth afking it this early? I just got to w5

[orchid moss]

yes you want to get to goat at least so you can go back to lab

[velvet hornet]

I just unlocked Vman and I'm about to prepare for my first speedrun. Any tips from y'all?

[orchid moss]

nah first speedrun is always ass

[nova plover]

tp to next map instead of walking to the portal

[orchid moss]

^

[velvet hornet]

dope

[orchid moss]

after first run you'll have the mkpt talent stacked a lot more so your future ones should be significantly better

[nova plover]

and only use void radius if most of the mobs have spawned

[orchid moss]

i would just say only use void radius on hard portals

[nova plover]

why does these shake and blur

[orchid moss]

but imo first speedrun is just a test run basically, your future ones will be significantly better anyways