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add .3x for every onyx lantern
turn on high performance
i did
rattler lel
its not moving ๐
welcome to the powerpoint experience. You'll get a new frame every handful of seconds. 
Also disable auto on burger and drum next time. Use drum manually until like.... 1000 stacks or so iirc.
should i save my lanterns? i have harp unlocked but want bucket stuff
good ol hole grind

eh i dont really wanna work on what scolibot told me to lol

huge damage jump tmr
All off my kills on biggie mole and all of the mobs after them got reset waht happend i dont even have the portals unlocked anymore
wait do i put everyone
wow 1 golden cheese
Lmao yeah Iโm just waiting for something (i canโt remember) so my characters are starting some hole jail while I finish my work week and can plan what to do next week for idleon
wait wat about lab 2100
do you have the jade emp upgrade or are close to it?
if not there's no point in doing lab 2100 so early you're just wasting time
What jade emo upgrade is that? Iโm still low on the jade lvls tbh
I just got the beanstalk lol
idk the number but it's after sov and turtle
3 new lab jewels in spinner but you get 1 for free every 700 total lab levels
hence why 2100 lab
Ohh
Hey with the the w5 Rupie cavern where do you get the Green rupies from (wich Jar) because i dont get any and ITS my next step
ah ok

Are there any obvious Artifact Find Chance bonuses I'm missing? I have about a 0.8% chance for Fury Relic, but I wanna get that higher since getting ancient and eldritch of that will be even worse if I dont
justice
What does the wisdom studie do?
About the slab, if I didn't pick a few starter character hats like the propeller cap, grey beret and baseball hat (I did pick the traffic cone once) is it gojoever or can I still get them somehow without making a whole new account because of another classic mistake?
drop from mobs
moon moon, jelly cube, lampar and forgot the last one
oh dedotated ram
I'm sorry?
deal with it
All because I didn't pick a useless hat while making a character
Don't worry, it's only gonna get worse.
1/200m recipe intesifies
Is there any guide on what to prioritize at the Conjuror of Bonuses? I cant seem to find it in the Hole guide
Check the hole guide again.
do bosses count as monsters for death bringer quest?
Yes
Maybe
with the shrines, once u have the artifact that makes them apply across all worlds/maps does that include the afk gains for leveling them?
shrine is effect everywhere but exp on the map its placed on
shrine art + lab node is exp on all map of the world the town the shrine are placed in
https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37
ah cool that is okay
think im gonna go on a slab mission
what the eff card packs are slab items lmfao
Does the equal spread conjurer bonus (the one that gives a boost to the villager with the lowest opals) only count villagers that have opals? Could I just put all my opals into one villager and the bonus would apply to them?
Anywhere I can find a guide of a cheat sheet for salt ranks for for nullo salt?
True, sorry
It will not work.
Q.Q i want santa hat so effing much
I have a backyard sale.
whats your damage
200k osrs
Read the text again. It says every villager needs to have at least five opals for it to start working.
In absolute disbelief, utter shock that luster armor actually came in use, for the slab
Lowballing smh
thats what it was worth when i sold it ๐ญ
i think theyre like 15bil now or something crazy
solid 60 items or so added to slab, gonna do a few items every day from here on out
!merit5
1๏ธโฃ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2๏ธโฃ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4๏ธโฃ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5๏ธโฃ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
โ๏ธ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
โ๏ธ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
Wait is there a list where i can find all the character creation hats cuz i didnt take a hat aswell
are there any obol specific grinds i can do while waiting for the choco chip
Pop obols at frog until silver u could go for dice obols but chocy chip is next week rotation so u might aswell wait for that to start crystal farming at the same time
Ty ive been searching for it for a while didnt think to look at wiki ๐
!gear
kind of weird how slab says im missing propeller hat but i 100% know i picked one because i had all 4 of them on my characters in selection screen
ik its a known issue, just annoying
man w2 skill are taking forever on jman
soon there will be an event
any way to xp gain up?
exp potions
also i doubled my alchemy bubble level in less then a week ๐
cards
lava recently changed how slab items are detected. before this change, the only way to guarantee an item was detected was to drop it and pick it up again. i'm guessing you never did that even though you had 4 of them so it never got detected. at least its faramble
thats awesome glad to hear its fixed, about 2 weeks into my idleon i learned about that guarenteeing its added, should be really quick to farm too, actually gonna go see if i can snag one off a couple 2h candies
centurion chance is the only thing that changes the lower i go in the last cavern right ? it doesn't make it harder to afk farm statues ?
alchemy - will be slow until you have tenteyecle above 200+ talent level to chain cc
fishing - active farm in equinox until you are lvl 30 (should take maybe 10-15) - then you can use seasalt to power level, only skill that can do this since fishing requires 0 efficiency to harvest any node
catching - there's no clever trick with this one. you might be able to use cavern node to get you some quick early levels, but otherwise - just test out all nodes you have access to and just 
i cant fisgh in equinow
yeah the "fight" caverns don't operate in similar manner as the "skilling" caverns. the base mob never changes stats in either gloomie nor in golem cave
well that's an issue you need to correct. by w5, you should have opened access to equinox and have unlocked the 4 skilling nodes. can't complain about not being able to run if you haven't set yourself up for crawling/walking yet
grabbed the cap really easy, but what was nice was the gelatenious mobs gave me sausage link, i didnt need that but it led me to check my fishing bait section and that led me to grab like 6 free slabs
i have it unlcoked but idk how equinox works and also the clouds all seems way to hard
You have an upgrade bar that fills up. When it's full, you can place one point into a bonus at the bottom. You get new bonuses by completing the challenges at the top.
the 3rd cloud challenge is lvl 100 on all your chars - which allows for new bonus unlock. you should easily be able to do this with access to w5.
equinox isn't complicated. just check daily to see if your bar is full, if it is - then invest into one of your bonuses. -- you aren't any where near them, but just avoid putting too many points into 2 bonuses: food lust (1 max is fine for long time) and connection range (0 is fine)
Reaching level 100 on all of your chrs is "way to hard"?
I just unlocked that cloud
before it was killroy which isnt hard but i dont have enough time yet to do and 20 greenstacks would also take to long
ty so much :)

just so you know 20 greenstacks seriously takes no time at all, your 3d printer will do all of the work, realistically that dream only gets you to work on something your account really really needs
tbf, you are veteran enough that we didn't know lava was going to expand equinox the way he did
so not really your fault
Lol I know. I only placed those points when I had literally nothing left to place. Though honestly - the food one has helped push that last level (going from, say, 99 to 100) on my meals easier. I just hit 99 and then go do an event.
that requires doing random daily 
curious does that mean equinox bar has a greater number to fill it each time or something? have never noticed
the more total upgrades you've leveled, the more required to fill the bar the next time. with endless summoning providing infinite equinox levels to some of most powerful bonuses in game, the new logic/recommendation is don't put points into meaningless bonuses
yiiiiiikes ive maxed everything lmaooo
Takes over a week for me to get a new one
why some endgamers have bemoaned the way lava implemented it, cause right when endless was released - they were effectively nerfed
the stuff you learn just in passing thats extremely good to know lmao
oh well id max out slow roast wiz again!
just got here and saw this interesting discussion, does this mean there's equinox upgrades that i should be avoiding? i've unlocked up till scrims only but which ones should i not prioritise upgrading for future reference
the only 2 are the ones i mentioned
the rest are fine - you'll get to a point where you shouldn't cap out on equinox, so just keep doing your priority to allocate levels
i'm still at a point where the clouds are the issue and not the timegate so i probably don't have to worry about any of this yet
this is def a late/end game concern
oh speaking of which when's a good time to do the ladle cloud, and is there a strat to increase my ladles/day other than just cooking/skill eff
itd only take 6 months for me, not like im struggling not to log on my 600hour guarenteed drop hunter at 141 hours
bruh im not doing that dream
not specifically. obv you shouldn't go for cloud until you are min 1k/day on ladles - but even then, that's too early imo.
ladle collection is purely a cooking efficiency thing. focus both stamps (multitool and ladle). this should be alot easier with upgrade vault bonus and balloons allowing you to easily push some decent cooking levels.
lemme find some images i sent here, i believe i sent my ladles/day
do you guys think Im ready to start enchanting? Or should I try and push for a few more good collectibles on page 2 first
yeah this was without cooking rings or the shoes on my db
some folks will say to wait for 4th collectible in tab 2 (monument afk). but this is judgment call for you to make, there's no hard/fast rule
ill wait, thanks
are all your meal levels getting quite good to max out the vman talent?
max out? it doesn't have a cap does it, but my levels are pretty good
This doesn't affect ladles.
i'd say it's fine
oh sorry, automatically thought cooking efficiency must be thinking of the wrong bonus
like i said, i think 1k is too early. the 100k dream opens up more levels for matchin scims which shouldn't be a priority. like with most things bb-related, it becomes infintely easier if you just wait. i'm pretty sure even my non-warriros get min 10k ladles/day in a fighting setup - just to give you reference point for why i think its funny people obsess over that dream
oh i'm not thinking of doing that dream cus i can do it, i'm only considering it because the other 4 are pure timegates
but i suppose this one is no different as well
its really an out-dated perspective also if people claim 2 bb are needed for ladles. its a joke.
it was more so i wanted to do this so i could get more clouds, not to do it for the reward itself
but i think waiting will be a better choice for me compared to trying to do this
yeah I did the 100k ladles dream with (almost) all my characters in cooking lol, and each were getting atleast like 1.5k a day (my bb was getting a lot more, lik 4k+)
and it still took a while
omfgomfgomfg
true
Bro omg
ez
honest to god don't know a card setup for cooking lmfao
you just doomed some poor sucker into needing 5b kills for theirs
skill eff, strength (all stat), cooking xp
trying to see how many ladles/day i have on my other characters
Q.Q im lavaas favorite child this game spoons(spoonfeeds) me so muchhh
also skill xp if you're worried about it
400 on my es is just about how much i expected
welp time to do octodars for the recipe
ooh and the free achievement
why is the card drop chance so low
whats your DR
4x
theres your problem
should be farming card drop chance cards/drop chance cards/drop rate obols
I thought dr and card dr are two diff things
drop rate affects card drop rate; it also affects money
drop rate truly is a wonderful stat
also don't compare it to the rest of W1, since he giga buffed all the "normal" mobs from gmush to giga frogs
they are, DR also affects cards, too, though
There, finally unlocked and did all the Gambit challenges. Now I can ignore Gambit until W7.
oh shit, i forgot i unlocked that too
have fun dealing with water issues ๐
he buffed gmush, frogs and beans? i only noticed a crazy difference on the jungle ones
at least back when my dr was low enough to be able to notice a difference
he buffed all of the main track monsters, so stuff in the trees and sewers weren't touched
hm interesting
oh boy 
nice meal upgrade
Did you move your reset time? I thought your was evening
I unlocked that nearly a week ago. And I've been struggling with water long before that ๐ I never play my Bubo to farm water upgrades
quick step and meaty claws being hit by NBLB ๐ฃ
it's always been sometime after midnight
alt account is like 4pm currently
@bleak gazelle I had a brace on right hand for days now that is how bad the nerve pain been my doctor said I have wear it min 12 hours a day
gosh dang 140b-331b damage with no dps setup
my waters in shambles 
450b-1t damage on vman smiling so much
ah shit my friends are picking the game back up again
My account new day starts after 3am my time
Mine changes randomly. For a year it was 10am, then it became 2pm. Now for the last month it's been 7pm.
why did my deathnote go crazy after completing the voidwalker speedrun/unlock quest
was there a quest reward that gives you W4 kills? I only made it up to efaunt in the speedrun
swear mine changed last month as well, could had sworn it was at 7, it was always right when i was getting home from nightshift, now its around 11 am
Doing a speedrun resets your vman's death note kills to 2m.
So if you're farming death note, do not use your vman to farm kills.
was wondering if i was having a mandella moment
!vman
Losing deathnote kills after running your Void Trial is not a bug.
You'll have maps unlocked afterwards based on the furthest any of your other characters have made it. Grats, progression is now easier, but go catch up on deathnote with other classes.
W6 note: ||This can also assist with passing the W6 locks if another character has cleared the map already, giving you a free pass.||
the weird thing is I gained 1 to 2m kills per world after the speedrun, in w1-w5, they didn't go down 
and I only did 2 worlds
Mirai spreading misinformation
oooooooooooh
Few alts have cleared all levels in workd 6 now so I moved them to world 1 to farm monsters there @bleak gazelle
He corrected it now
Get used to this ๐
did you know vman runs very fast, you could say he's a speedrunner
free death note kills 
But Lava ~is~ turning the frogs gay.
no i think that's because of picnic
Also, to be fair, I had farmed up almost 100m kills on each mob before I did my first speedrun, so it felt like my vman was resetting to 0 kills to me.
Pulled an acecow
and with this i now have full tab 4 unloc- 200 BATTERIES???
I am stuck on that still @terse verge
I was in world 5 before I did quests for vman
Oh Mew, did you ever look into Azeron hand controls?
I saw my doctor today and he said that would not work for me
Why?
daily reset will shift if you're getting any desync, just fyi...and of course if you're using silver watched too 
ohhhhhhhhh yeah i get that a lot whenever game crashes for some reason if i click my woodular shrine in town instant crash and then desyncs (i think?) a ton, i try not to do it bc it would be abuse if on purpose
Cause way my shoulders are they slope down and when have the brace on my hand needs to stay flat
Every single finger on the Azeron can be adjusted to fit your hand, so even if your fingers are frozen from dupatrins or arthritis, you can adjust to fit your hand. Also the buttons are very easy to press.
definitely explains it, for a while whenever i opened alchemy it crashed so had to only open that in w2
Not when I have perm nerve damage
Mmk
ooof sorry mew that sounds horrible ๐ฆ hate that people are in rough spots
You can see the crazy difference between normal and sewers mobs, for instance
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards#Blunder_Hills
Monsters and resources sometimes drop cards! Your card collection is shared by all your characters, and you can equip different combinations of cards onto each character! Collect enough of the same card, and it will Level Up! It's bonus will go up, and it'll get a shiny new border! Cards that you have not gotten at least one copy of will have a ...
why tf gmush card dr much higher than frogs
LOL
gmush cards would be too easy to farm if not right
i suppose this is to encourage new people?
the entirety of jungle:
i'm assuming he knows that gmush/beans are killed in massive quantities so they don't really need the buff
I have all the cards in world 1 ruby level think called
correct
this explains why my w1 cards looks like this now
he buffed the card dr but not the damn card set
@simple wadi I have beat all levels in world 6 and done all level in the rift this month
GGs o.O thats some huge gains
Nice! Rift was such a huge pain.
I'm doing zow on my DB in W3 right now. Only taking a single 24 hour candy on most of these maps, haha.
yall should be in w7 waiting room endgamers
Think I am not a end gamer
Mew's a game ender
Is the World 6 Majigers last wish you can have rn?
=p
There's a non-functional wish afterward, but yes.
Thank you!
And another world Wowed in less than 10 minutes =3
is the villager statue level supposed to be different on each character??
@simple wadi my main care giver helps me get the game up in the morning after I do the daily stuff on the iPad and I leave it up for hours
did you deposit on multiple characters before making it gold?
thats crazzzzzzzy mirai
I only need my caregiver to turn on my computer for me. Otherwise I handle things independently. I don't use tablets - don't have the strength to hold them up.
i havent onyxed it yet, i just wanted to get a few levels into it beforehand and each character has a different value
did you turn it gold
like go to the statue UI and hit the second tab and buy the gold upgrade
I have my one laying on the bed I can turn the laptop on but not a pc
whoops, its been so long since ive used that tab i completely forgot about it lmfao
thanks
Do you have a PC? You can get accessories to automatically turn the PC on, or just a simple button that extends out of the PC via a cable.
My pc very old and not runs well now
does this not apply the mult to damage calc for afk?
We all get that way eventually
How do gambit points work, are they cumulative? Or is each run a fresh start to get as many as you can?
Cumulative, and it only counts your best runs.
so it combines each of your best runs from each gambit then?
what should i spend gems on, is caverns a priority?
There should be a gem shop tier list if you google it.
i already have all s tier from !gem
Thatโs an old ass picture, many things have changed
You could get the Draconic cauldron thatโs out rn
I do not believe there are pictures of old asses on the gem shop tier list.
the ones ive found also seem outdated too
rn im tempted to either get cavern xp bonus or divinity sparkle
Yeah now that I think about it, I donโt think so either
Parallel villagers is a good one to get. As well as Conjurer points.
Conj points is only imo the first 6, after that itโs too expensive to keep up
snm
A couple of rupie slugs from the current limited specials is also nice.
also for pocket divinity is arctis the best one?
Imo the draconic cauldron should be top priority, goated with bubo
Most people put Harriep and Omniphaunt as their pocket divinity.
I assumed they already had it since they said "I have all the s+ tier list ones"
got it ty
I think they were talking about the s+ from !gem, instead of just in general
We should keep talking about ~them~ as if ~they~ weren't right here in the chat.
W4 is done now.
lol I still havenโt done my schows on my 2nd db yet, I have done I think 4 on it tho
1 of which was tremor worm, the rest was all w1
I had 140x 24-hour candies to burn, so I figured I'd just get it done.
made it to 41
how does ribbon winning work? everyday i have an x chance of getting an ribbon in my inventory?
Ribbons go into the meal menu in W4 town, I assume the talent will give ribbons without first unlocking them via the Grimoire
I believe you're guaranteed a single ribbon. You can level up your DB's grimoire to increase the odds of getting better quality ribbons, and you can upgrade the DB's talent to increase the number of ribbons you get in a day.
thanks
lava being lava
Are any of these alright?
That's definitely an eternity from now at 11 days+ per rank
The first one is good. The others are meh. Depends on where you are in sailing.
does this even exist
Uhh
the 39% loot looks nice
yes but its require to get lucky once you reach the required lvl for it
i've been told you get it after 47, i dont see it being possible to get past 51 at the moment and i've gotten there like 10 times and nothing
and the minigame is so damn boring having to do it multiple times really sucks
End gamers put 50k+ hours into Bravery
i have 40k+ lol
Git Gud
do you have it?
I thought the other 2 statues were just better
Am not gud... 
Holy
i just wish he made it so that the fights you 1 shot you actually complitely skip and then it just gives u all the chests to open at one instead of having to press fight then wait then select chest and repeat
i think thats pretty good? wait leme check mine
im not gud either, rip
i started doing it the moment i can just to try to get the multi, havent even been paying attention to other bonuses
You really love your mining eff
each time you level 10 things in construction it should speed up refinery now right
Lol first thing I noticed
Yeah, that just needs salts I don't have ๐

Iโm down to 2 minutes a cycle. Still so slow
don't forget to make the dragon statue gold before onyx!
i golded it already dw
hey guys!
ive 2 questions -
- is there any actual purpose to resetting the bell?
- what is the tier list / priority list for the first monument
What is the ko thing for the death bringer?
1-shot 1 kill with bare hands = more dmg
- Yes
- Opal>monument afk>literally everything else depending on needs>opal chance
There are schematics and the librarian villager that give a chance to get more than just one bell bonus per ring, so you'd reset to maximize that. Or if the bonuses are going into something you don't care about, you can reset to try for better RNG
i made a meme for best bravery bonuses before
thats fair, but im just not there yet, only been villaging for a week now
ive seen it plastered all over reddit XD
oh cool
so this is how people have absurd bell bonuses
basically yeah
Whats the most efficient way to use guilded jars with the other 3 jars that give rupies?
Read the pinned messages for a hole guide, specifically about jars.
Which channel is it pinned in
this oneโฆโฆ
Nvm
IT IS MINE
Gz
yummy
mmm delicious
i need it
atleast u don't take a year
guys, I just realized I missed out on a lot of CC for not putting Raise Dead in first slot 
poggers
you will not like how expensive ruby is
i'm lazy to farm genie 4 star
1 gem 
this will be much easier
Candy it
256 cards is a lot of candy aha
just active es it'll take like an hour max
it's actually a card that's worth it as well so
gonna do that
think about the 25% dr from crystal carrot card
when you unlock ruby that'll ruby instantly lmao
best to spend your cardifier on something like this instead
and maybe gonna buy little 4 star for minichief uwu
I'm pretty sure by now there's a guide for summoning doublers. Is there?
maybe in question w6 pins
gamba one more pack, get 3* normal emp and then get 4* and 5* cardifier
also pinned here
that's what i did anyway
lfg sharki real gamba time

is there any guide for conjuror?
Does bravery have limited amount of different boosts you can pick per run or is the rest just invisible? I just took Bell ring/ping but didn't appear on the list
should i save up to gamba w6 packs
i have 900 gems left rn, chip gamba broke me uwu
gamba more
that depend of u
sounds like you have enough for 1 w6 pack
gamba never hurts
who
y but rng sometime hurt
sharki
get that emperor cards
or you as well if you happen to have 720 gems
i don't 
i'm gonna wait to have a little excess for start buy w6 pack again
real
but chip gamba is more fun then w6 card pack
i get 3 3 star in my first w6 card pack, emperor multi,minichief and this
wat is the card of miniboss on w6 ?
this guy
gonna have to go to that map one day
finally got the 100k CC equinox
Nice
what's the max levels to cap these?
not sure if thats % of max level or % of the efficiency or whatever
as in, less bonus per level with higher levels, like bubbles
aight 100k CC done with lvl 182 Cooking Roadkill and lvl 169 Tenteyecle

poggers
Why is the quest dont working?
u click on it for complet ?
u need to do the kruk quest
is there a justice monument guide document
Hole guide is pinned in this channel otherwise check the wiki
Wiki has all the NPC interactions
Check the wiki for a list of the Justice possibilities and their consequences.
@nocturne patrol
when starting statues farming 
when choco uwu
1 more week...
who know aha
alright chat, how many levels am i gaining?
-# @solar seal too
mhmhmh
69
40-50
OH MY GOD THIS IS THE 3RD OFFER IN A ROW
Like the bills shouldnt be all that high lava ๐ญ
do I need to stay on the altar to be linked to a god? or just link and leave
to link to a god, it does not require staying on altar
to keep getting div pt/xp (outside of tranqi), it will require staying on altar or being in lab while linked to goat
cus the 1st one says 30% afk gain, but my exp was the same
or is it only for skills
didn't even hit 42 
divinity is not affected by any time skips: balloons, candy, pearls, skill afk. so even if you link and gain 30% afk, it has no affect on divinity - it will on other skills so long as it can be affected by afk (not all skills can)
+30% AFK Gains for all activities!, I assumed this was for leveling my character as well
Damn I think I messed up on jars
if you're leaving them afk while fighting, yes, it should increase xp gains
5 more...
I don't even have tab 2 for collectibles unlocked and I went to unlock most of the tab 1 collectibles
are you a dooter?
havent fought the doot
or did you unlock Pocket Divinity in the Hole?
do you own the pet companion doot
no
^ ace's question. have you unlocked pocket divinity from hole and have snake alrady linked for your entire account
poggers
finally
ayyy
whats the minimum chest that i should aim for
chat i just got my first villager statue ๐ฅฐ
Anybody know if lava has fixed that one โ30% chance of extra bubbleโ upgrade in gaming (one of the last onces you buy with red points) or is it still useless
Aim for the lowest chest, if you can check often dont lvl the unending loot talent of SB if you check like once a day lvl it
i check once every 20 horus
do u keep challenging the monarch
in grotto or
Always challenge if you can
How do I farm the Mushroom/Golem Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Villager Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message
Active farm on a Siegebreaker with plunder setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with anyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746
Mushroom: Expect afk claim times in the 45 minute range for 30x DR, 2 hours for 20x, 3 hours for 12x (multiply these times by however many "bundles" of statues you want)
Golem: Expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range for 30x DR, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x
TL;DR - More DR equals shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim (prio MK, don't use DR prayer).
-# Note: times untested after drop chance change
time to switch everyone to grotto
Which class farm do I use best w5 keys?
DK/Bubo on wurms
I wish there was a better way to see what boats are what and recall them easier in sailing. the system as it is now kinda sucks
Whatsup yall! The W5 magma gloves are really hard to get huh? ๐ Any tips for getting that recipe? Active ES? Or candies? ๐ฌ
more DR 
Active or afk
Iโm at 33.2x ๐ฅฒ
And cards full dr
active of course
crystal setup for both. keys are the byproduct
if you just need a few keys to kill boss real quick, can go smack the miniboss
No i need 700
if you want to gamble, can do 1hr candies, otherwise active ES or just throw everyone on there
then crystal farm with DK or CC with bubo
could try candying but don't think it's worth it unless you don't need anything from the above two methods
the only way is through a 3rd party system such as !IT or !IE -- the in game ui is just bad for sailing, no way around it
think i took about a day with ES at that rate
once you know which boat/captain you want to recall - you can recall just that captain by attempting to delete it - but no other shortcuts
Yeah Iโll just leave my EZ active I think, I assume candy doesnโt have the same luck as active right?
Because I have enough candy as well to try
you wouldn't get the extra DR from portal, but if you feel like you have enough, go for it 
or just come back when you're at 50x+ 
I disagree with @errant pond . Never level the Unending Loot. If you are checking only every 20 hours, then set your minimum chest tier to iron. If you're still consistently hitting your cap, then set it to gold instead.
There is no reason to set unending loot when you're still farming relics
unending can be used for 24h+ claims, and with beanstalk and hamters that get easier to reach if you dont check often to begin with
I still disagree
maybe i'll give the arrowhead a try 
What benefit are you getting from unending loot that outperforms getting an extra 18 chests?
thts if you do get those 18 chest with the filter
You should if you are checking only once a day
Just blew threw 100 1hr candies lol, nothing ๐คฃ
How many royal urns do you have?
1.3k

cant even blame lavarounding on that XD
Congrats, you're barely above the average drop rate of the recipe. 1k urns = the drop rate of the recipe.
I had 3.9k urns when I got it.
just want to confirm, what should I buy first?
knew it
don't forget the one hyper obol 
more vault upgrades!!!
new event maybe
4th anniversary
more gems/??
easter event probably 
About time I get my bonus card drop rate
Im very new to world 5 and was wondering what I should focus now?
park all characters in divinity until you get at least the bear god
Already doing that
Take an ES/DK out and start going through the backtrack list in the pinned messages. (you also have a full w5 guide there)
when is it worthy to collect those?
When it comes to harp will I still get the bonus for e does it matter if i have the strin attched to it
get the acc, bro. it's good stat
could also wait until you have 15 on the board for the equinox cloud
but the limit is 14
buy another slot from gemshop (yes, it is required for that cloud)
Every letter has an active and passive bonus. The passive is always active, regardless if it's assigned to a string.
you have the LV bonus at all times. assigning the E to a string and strumming it just gives you exp
cauldron is nice if you don't have any, pengus and slugs are also nice but it depends what you need more of
Only with SB.
you can - but not all respawn skills work -- why sb is sort of the only choice for active
Ohh i see
i think if you tryhard with bubo you can swap between c9/15 
To make Divine, I first need to make Troll (then Magma) right? That path is better than pushing for Diabolical?
Did Lava ever explain why he made SB the sole respawn hero for caverns?
It would be really funny.
i think its cause pirates like to hide their treasure booty in caves. ๐
probably forgot about it 
when do i stop pushing divinity
Once you have nobisect you can take a lad off of it to push for w6
After that you can get tiger god and youll have all gods, then its i beleieve div 60
Theres a few seperate steps to divinity
hmm, thoughts?
how long it will take? approximately
W3 gonna get clicker like owl and roo
w3 already got a clicker, its called Cog clicker XD
"for"
about 80% chance its just 4th anniversary event
ah is it? didnt know
when is the anniv? april?
beginning of april yes
peak pfp
i see
For nobisect maybe a few weeks? For tiger maybe another few weeks. And i have no idea for div 60 cuz i havenโt done it yet 
But i got close during lab 75 so probably a few weeks after you do lab 75
Would recommend doing lab 75 first
dang, i was planning to got Goharut first, but looks like it's really long long way to get to there
You get more than enough lab levels while sitting with Goat in lab. Realistically you don't have enough lab chips to struggle with the amount of chip slots you already have.
nobi took me about a week from entering w5
well, i haven't start lab yet. so, lab first?
W5 with zero lab progress?
maybe 8-9 days, actually, i did have one div sparkie
yes not even sigil, lol
Sit on divinity until Goat. Once you hit Arctis, see if you can't make a conga line to at least reach these two, but I highly doubt it.
Either that or do the minimum amount of lab now, until like lvl 10-20 (I think?) to have some form of connection length for Arctis.
alright, thank you. 10-20 noted
I'm not even sure how much that's gonna solve for you, it's just a rough estimate that supposedly shouldn't be that hard to reach. Just make sure you have these booked and leveled on Bubo and he's placed on the furthest right in the conga line.
waaa, i was planning to get skill max level to 200 for Bubo. but, it's really take long time especially the atom need 50m build point
200 max level is from sailing most likely
Chizoars Blankie, is it best to farm on Normal?
for most boss drops it is almost always:
key efficiency - normal
time efficiency - nightmare > chaotic
i read it in web it's fury relic. but, i have no idea which island that artifact from.. so i thought i would be long so far
island 9 I believe
yep, 300k distance
stop gasping ffs, it's not such shocking info 
dang, it will take long far journey
lol, xD i do it bcs thought it's more polite than reply just by "hooo, i see"
how much damage should I be doing in world 5 on purgatory stalkers?
You're like 3-4 maps from the boss, so try closing in on 30M.
should I be running defence and acc cards or damage
Do you need more def or acc?
I need acc to hit 100%
What class?
Correction, you need acc to hit 150%. 
ermkay
ask, is it normal for Beast master and DK has more damage than BB?
Depends at what point in the game.
erm, where do i stand where I can get orb kills by using daggerang on thermisters
Probably
how can i get a siege breaker flag score of 75 in the rift ?
Get more kills
382? 
i got about 450k in afk but i cant manage to do it, what am i doing wrong ;-;
vman enhance?
which vman enhance ?
for sb flag
uh idk which one u mean :C, did i level it ?
It wonโt help
Thats only an issue with the w5 achievement
Vman enhance only procs at 100, anyway
Active afk kills have nothing to do with afk display (other than kinda for dnote purposes)
oh yea now that i think about it i might be dumb
You should be one shotting

yeah was just so u have a picture of what my dmg/strenght is round about ;C
Max is like 400,I'm slacking. 
You could just say what your dmg is vs mob health
well ok makes more sense
i just dont get how i can get a score of 75, i get the score up a bit and 2 seconds later its 0 again
Is there a guide to how opals should be distributed? I really want to progress faster on explorer and I think Im managing my opals REALLY bad. I have a total os 50 opals rn
Read the pinned guide
The way flag works is by when you kill a plunder mob you active coin drop. When you pick up a coin, it respawns an enemy. When thereโs no enemies to respawn, the coin goes into the flag score. Flag points are prioritized to be used up over picked up coins for respawning mobs. Plunder mobs drop a lot of coins.
Oh srry
thanks tho
- Make sure coin talent is maxed
- Make sure flag talent is 1 pt only (obv no control over bonus levels)
- Then you pray you kill fast enough to stack up to 75
You can also let a bunch of coins gather on the ground (before the game picks them up automatically) and just drag your mouse over them to collect them all at once manually. It should give you a pretty high score, but it's gonna start falling so y'know...
Why only 1 lvl flag?
iirc the plundered mob hp scaled with flag talent, so you want it to be as low as possible
Flag level controls how hard it is to kill plunderous mob. No other benefit when you just need to trigger to start skull buff
Gotcha
lets go, finally remembered to buy this superbit 

how much xp do u need for lv 40 div
more than for lvl 39 
heeee,
is hotairs land rank calculator updated
I canโt wait for the next class xp vote
My favorite conversation I've ever had on here was a guy the other day asking how much better 90% is from 82% and I just kept responding with various "8% better" until he started yelling.
Ganna level so many characters
Where the rest of the souls
I mean... yeah. Some questions are either so dumb or so broad, that you can't help but answer them appropriately. 
How many cycles to get to rank 14 red salts 
More than it took to get to R13. (Or less if it hit the 1M cap) (Or the same if no cycle speed changes occured). 
How would it have hit the 1m cap if it's only rank 13 ๐ค
Smh he doesnโt even know the math
I lowkey have zero clue at what rank it hits 1M anymore. I've been sitting on it for too long.
Isnโt it like rank 19-20
My pink salt is 200k at r14 and my green is at 1M at r27 so somewhere in between.
So once you hit the cap does it actually get faster to rank up them?
Or do you not gain more salts per cycle
Dope
I think I get like 4 million red salt a day.
Ok. Show off
Is it better to get the basic artifacts, and moving on to a new island's basic artifacts. Or sit on an island until the artifacts are Ancient?
I just always have a shop at each island
As long as you get ancient tusk at the highest rarity available, it's up to you pretty much.
Best rank until you get 6800 more
Depends on the island. Some artifacts are better than others.
All artifacts are not created equal
Just keep in mind that the artifacts before this line, have a considerably higher drop chance than the ones after the line. You can probably get the entire first half in like 3 days max but for the second half it can take weeks for just one.
Wait whatโs the emerald for
But are given the same opportunities. As long as those opportunities are restricted to their respective artifacts' areas.
I only have one gold
Normal - Ancient - I forgot the name of 3rd rarity Eldritch - Sovereign
Oof. That sucks, was hoping I was almost done
cope
The cycle of tusk and fury continues.
My measurement bonus for villager xp sucks so much. Like .5% every level up
Still at 0% skill eff from tome
It won't scale well with monument bonus anyway
Not much you can do about it.
That's why we unlock the second upgrade for villager xp. 
Oh itโs just rough anyways alright
Your buckets be slacking. Send the children in there. The children long for the mines.
they yearn for the mines

ehhhhhhhhhhh..... they doing their best
had to get on my hands and knees for every opal I could conjure since the last batch of caverns dropped
lmfao
i am also stuck on a glass cannon one
I just love rerolling 5 times in a row only to get nothing but default slimes
Best feeling
Nvm it's not that serious.
Worst part is that I had 2x jeweled sparkies today and accidentally spacebarred them away.
goat
It really gets into the muscle memory after a while.
wonder if i can kill them
lava if this shit isn't something elite, I'm really gonna start tweaking
+35% accuracy! But only for W7 mobs.
lmfao
Ok so we still have good shit in the duffy, you just gotta dig past all the doodoowater and ballot bonuses.
why is ballot bonus even a thing from endless
Who is the best guy to afk hampter?
active es
if Im gonna be away from my pc?
doesnt matter, more dr preferred
Fnuy
Lavaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
why did don quixote do this
the abandoned clammies are a crucial part of the story fr fr
Do you guys wait for justice multi to hit 2.4x before doing the battle?
Yeah but bc I'm lazy. 
lul only 2.4x
Listen, I wait for more but I didn't wanna go into semantics just for the explanation. 
not bad 
this gotta be the worst
i can finally build this 
actually wide lane glass cannon also sucks
Glass canon is just sparkie RNG simulator
yes thats why it sucks
Are you on your second account?
Am I the only 1 drooling at the upcoming choco chip? ๐ฅด
Im literally counting hours
probably not, chocochip is that good
Im lucky i started 2 weeks ago and im blessed with choco chip so quick
can you buy it tho? like do u have the mats for when it comes up
how is this 0%? i have 600k build rate
reenter map
Choco chip makes each crystal worth about 4 spawns... worth if you don't have, or even if you have few
having a couple defintely doesnt hurt
Or more
thats crazy
one thing I definitely dont like about this discord is when you share and achievement and like 5 other ppl just respond to you by having like 100x that number and then a mama troll emoji
Maybe 10mx or something

By the law of the internet, now I ~have~ to do this every time you post something.
good to know that I -have- to block you
choco chip greenstack
I swear if it gem shop wasnt capped per week someone would already have that
Would only need millions of lifetimes to accomplish
What crystal mob spawn rate should i aim for in prep for choco chip. Atm my dk sits at 1 out of 173
Dont have 2 cards maxes yet
I dont remember the number but u need talent, stamp, cards with doublers and PO box
Is that atainable for someone without glided stamps? Crystaline stamp is WILD expensive
Not likely.
the chips dont even sit in ur storage so u couldnt gstack anyways
Highly questionable ngl
Can someone show me what they are investing into on conjurer
Good thing im pushing rift 26 today and ill glide that stuff asap
i got around 1/80 without any gilded stamps
@bleak gazelle how's it looking for crystal chance on alt big man?
probabl non existent
but it was quite a bit of making bricks on everyone
If you have the chips to increase cards, possible
slackiiiiiiiiiing
yeah crystal farming takes some investment
O. Ill prolly rubify the cards for it and focus crescent shrine. If 3 weeks of gameplay gets me 1 in 100 crystals im good to go
Meanwhile i only got 10 DR and i cannot fathom how ppl get over 50 DR
idek if i have the talent 
I would highly advise saving rubifiers for W6 stuff.
same
w6 gives a shit ton of bonuses, hole as well
i did finally get sampler prayer though 
guess I gotta resample tonight
Tbh choco chip huge. Even at 1 in 180, you'll likely get 4 spawns, on average, from crystal.
Im a spender and in my begginer brain i find crystal mobd atm to solve a lot of my issues
Cuz i got like 0 statues xD
And pens
u have the crystal talent maxed right
Ya
shouldnt be too hard to get to 1 in 100 unless your shrine sucks/your cards arent farmed
don't think i have any equipped atm
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also po box
Only sources I miss is 4% from postbox. Maxed both crystal chance cards. Crescent shrine up ( is only at 60% rn ) and gliding crystaline
Counterpoint: check some of the 5* requirements and drop chances in w6. 
Sitting at 1 in 180ish at early w6 on my dk waiting for choccy
what lvl stamp
Do u think my 10 dr is rdy for w6 mate xD
- Is too expensive in bricks
Stamp is a huge boost. Star talent. Then poop and demons. Not much else? Choccy ofc
No but when it will be, you're gonna regret wasting it on some baby cards like w1 poop and w4 genies. 
doublers
U know what. Ur more experienced than me. Ill listen
Im trying to build up crystal dk before choccy too so
Ye i saw that and got sad a bit xD
gem gamba, I had great luck doing it lol
just wait next week for new update
I also think its very worth it as the time gate is massive
Do crystal cards become passive?
gem is fine chip is super high variance
he will add "No Chip Left Behind"
U advice to buy 2 of those weekly?
you could get a bunch of the dr chips that dont even do anything
No card left behind when
Nvm i read badly. Yeah im thinking of gachaing jewels
if ur a whale yea
but otherwise no lol
There isn't a second A in gambling or gamble.
Just waiting for Godshard cards to drop
Haven't sampled gmush during a speedrun?
i did but im stuck at like single digit millions
Get on my level.
lol
Oh wait, millions plural? I need to get on your level.
50% of the time I'm right every time. ๐
mine are looking like this rn
dude i need help increasing my dr, any tips?
do hole
im doing hole
No, bc mine trash
Just resampled 

yo in cavern at jars, can i get white jewels as soon as i unlock the production jar for them or do i need some amount of green jewels previously

white jewels have their own jar, so you can get them right away
ty
im never getting to goharut what the fuck
Pray harder. 
how much dmg do i need to beat world boss 5
didn't you ask this yesterday as well?
and?
the answers didn't change 
if you arent gonna answer it thenn ignore the question
Max out your multis ez
All except top 3 now, there frog is

question i get 96 million damage on bb but with that one talent that greatly improves your damage but lowers your health
they dont have focus unlocked
sadge
56 million without it
is this a problem or is health not an issue
its fine if you maintain 100% survivability
during kattle
but i wouldnt rely on it
wdym survivability theres no afk tab in boss fights
oh alright
irrelevant but on nightmare does the mob change or do the moles just go on steroids
same mob
or does kattle just go on steroids
moles spawn a lot faster and kruk has 1000t hp
hi dadoum
wait after a certain ammount of time you get kicked out the fight
nah dw
people have spent hours afking at nightmare kruk
Sorry, newbie here. What does that mean exactly. I have my characters at like lvl12-16 on divinity but trying to get them higher
Underneath bear and snake you can increase the gain you get
yeah wondering that too
would not recommend tho
it took my ES like one hour and half to kill that mf with like 100b dmg? (idk dont remember)
if nightmare kruk takes more than like 30 minutes it is probably not worth imo
bear is gold, snake is gaming points
thats what u mean right?
what did I do wrong? Why is collectible chance so bad? Am I missing a lot of useful collectibles?
Ah unlucky. One of them cost money think itโs the next one
Which is fairly easy to get 100% on
how do the mobs on crystal island scale because theyve been growing in health and not stopping
idk man
i max village before hole, right ?
that seems fine but you also probably unlocked too many collectibles before unlocking tab 2
wonderful....so I was just TOO good
I did a run of kings gambit, and unlocked (and used) 11 doublers. Should I try kings again, or should I do horse or queen
Try horse/queen since you'll get more out of them.
i got sov fury 
whoop whoop
i cant do it guys even with 96 million im getting my ass beat
not really its a stalemate but since i never win in turn i am being beat
regular Kruk?
What class?
looks like you got all of tab one before unlocking tab 2, the generally agreed upon move is to wait till you have tab 2 unlocked to really push collectibles and enchant lvls hard
what engi lvl is tab 2
BRB, changing my jars
27
wo cao
26 has faster jars which is nice

I'm guessing queen is all cards bejeweled, so I feel like I should do that so I can get more rage
nice
when sov lantern 
going in order rn lol
The strat is the same for all except bishop, give the hole guide a look. 
It's a bit unorthodox but once you understand how to handle the survival part it's not that terrible.
Well how do you handle that apart from โplay as few cards as possibleโ
its in the hole guide
Sending one wave of default slimes should basically let you survive for like 2 or 3 minutes early on, don't panic spawn if they get pushed a bit too much back into your own. Otherwise pray you get bloomies to scale.
I leveled that xp bubble for construction its nearly lvl 100 now apparently it was only lvl 40
Cheers thanks iโll look at that
Also yes, the guide. 
a strat that requires thinking and not just mindlessly spamming? ๐
too hard
Listen, when the entirety of summoning is just spamming and praying for RNG, I can't blame people too much for resorting to their primal instincts. 
I fucked my very first run because I thought it was "doing dmg to me, damages all your minions in that lane" since it was trendy from endless. Lmao, I nuked myself into orbit.
it seems that killing the moles is actually doing me worse than focusing kattle and fighting through the heals
if i just afk for like 10 minutes should be done
you're on bb right?
im so close!
that class is so dogshit for kruk
If it's of any help at this point.
shhh its the best class to push anything anywhere
I think even with bb I could do it in like 2-3 mins
gamba
Pretty sure if you just candy through w5 with dk/es youโll instakill the boss lmao
afk pusher?
real
kek
whats ur dmg?
How tf did you manage this
active bm leveling up and showered I think but I can't remember
its been like 2 weeks since then
A common folly of many men. 
even my lowest dmg char is 150m
guess who
bm?
yessir
my bm gets the most love bc I fucking hate breeding
he will get no love as soon as I start getting some shinies and hearts for the next thing I want setup
1 more breeding lvl b4 my bm gets neglected
can someone remind me of all the gambit multipliers? is it just a wisdom reward or are there others?
I have 5x that on mine atm
cool
a most dilligent alchemist
weird that it wasn't noted anywhere


