lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[frosty kraken]

i want to be sung jinwoo

[limber belfry]

I need rift jocund if someone would trade for a biggole mole

[zinc torrent]

As free to play, I'm missing all but gmush and quenchie from new. Doot and slug from legacy. It's rough out there

[hallow holly]

im bored and have ~3k pet gems to spend so ill do a bit of a giveaway. im gonna pull legacy treats, whoever guesses the highest pet i get out of these will get whatever it ends up being :)

[left kindle]

Doot

[frosty kraken]

oh dam

what does legacy treats mean

[zinc torrent]

Ahhh, you beat me to it Xander

[hallow holly]

the treats for old pets vs new

[frosty kraken]

oh

[stable parrot]

Ram

[hallow holly]

if anyone else wants to throw forward guesses go for it, ill check back in 10

[left kindle]

do I do 2 different buckets or 2 the same?

[zinc torrent]

I'm gonna guess you'll get 2 doots

[stable parrot]

Don’t save any pets for me tho, I have em all already

[frosty kraken]

molti

[lilac vault]

I’ll wager for three doots

[hoary kernel]

Custard

[stuck river]

ram

i would like to thank my sister randomly pulling doot for me so i dont have to bullshit around trying to get ome

[hallow holly]

no shot..

@left kindle todays your day

[left kindle]

Ayo

[hoary kernel]

Bruh

[stuck river]

omg

[left kindle]

holy shit I'm being saved

[nocturne patrol]

xd

[hallow holly]

what server ?

[left kindle]

Pecunia 5

[stuck river]

For the love of jesus

[left kindle]

Do you want anything for it?

[hallow holly]

nope ive got em all

[raw wadi]

Where da Coliseum at

[hoary kernel]

You Got Anything Else To Giveaway?

[hallow holly]

uhh i got a couple rams and some other junk

[glad isle]

wheres my doot

[stuck river]

first doot?

[hoary kernel]

I Still Dont Have Custard And Bean

[glad isle]

guess i gotta wait a ballizion years more

[hallow holly]

sorry choco

[velvet thistle]

Not worth keeping unless you have like 5k of any statue yet

[zinc torrent]

Broooo

[hallow holly]

i cant believe i pulled 2 doots and im only 39/200 on pity

[glad isle]

im at 39/200 😭

[velvet thistle]

Im clinically insane

[glad isle]

u stole all my luck

[zinc torrent]

Grats Xander

[left kindle]

Hell yeah man!

[bleak gazelle]

i got one traded to me at 147, currently at 165 or something, one day i'll pull my own

[hoary kernel]

Nice

[frosty kraken]

no way

[glad isle]

im quitting chat

[frosty kraken]

GUYS I TOLD U. U MUST BELIEVE

[glad isle]

no more chatting

[left kindle]

I'm never doubting you again

[frosty kraken]

LOL

this guy actually a god though

he just rolled doot just like that

[stuck river]

he has created a miracle

[ornate raven]

how do you get massive amounts of villager statues, is there a certain stat i should be focussing on

[stuck river]

hes the chosen 1% of gamblers that didnt quit

[frosty kraken]

choco is in denial

[glad isle]

well i see paid gems so im back

[nocturne patrol]

wat is the meta ?

[stuck river]

same

[nocturne patrol]

okay

[glad isle]

don't bother doing ranks

too much time

do something else

[nocturne patrol]

i'm gonna push 1900 lab so

[acoustic iris]

Hello

[zinc torrent]

Why 1900 and not 2100?

[nocturne patrol]

2100*

[glad isle]

no 2100

[acoustic iris]

Hello

I’m new

[bleak gazelle]

get 24k on your monuments

[zinc torrent]

I just pushed 2100 on my 2 bubo, finally done

[hoary kernel]

Hello

[glad isle]

wrong chat

[frank shore]

fk these bosses are healing more than i can dmg them

[ornate raven]

no equinox buff?

[hallow holly]

probably not the best chat for a new player but welcome lol

[bleak gazelle]

with the alch bubble, rolling low % should theoretically be better

[stable temple]

The game is telling you to put at least 1 void tower

[stuck river]

hi new

[glad isle]

new

[frank shore]

this is my last tower for the wave 50 in all of them

[acoustic iris]

No I’m new to the group

[frank shore]

for equinox

[stable temple]

Delete a poison and put the void tower

Delete everything except for your kraken/party and put a void and just afk

[glad isle]

lemme go and gamble my arcade as no doot 😭

atleast i can gamble there

[ornate raven]

i believe you can trade a doot, just gotta ask someone on pizza 1

[acoustic iris]

Do you guys play Fortnite

[hallow holly]

not since i was like 14 lol

[nocturne patrol]

the game where u build more then u shoot ? kek

[acoustic iris]

I need a new team mate

[stuck river]

ok

[hallow holly]

you'd probably be better served in the fortnite discord

[left kindle]

Me personally I'd rather keep minecraft and csgo separate

[frank shore]

ah the void is winning me the game

[stuck river]

kama

[neat siren]

any suggestions for what bubbles i should be tagging

[stuck river]

the lad got a doot

[neat siren]

no fucking shot

[ornate raven]

why didn't you have a void tower in the first place

[stuck river]

diamond chef

[acoustic iris]

Does anyone play on PS4?

[frank shore]

just tryna get wave 50 and this is what they said

[acoustic iris]

Or on ps

[stuck river]

nobody plays fortnite here

[ornate raven]

outdated

[neat siren]

why is bro asking for fortnite teammates here

wrong server kid

[acoustic iris]

Idk

[stuck river]

@left kindle hows doot

[lyric vault]

I have just unlocked Artics god, what should I do rn, afk divinity for more or do other stuff?

[left kindle]

All my characters are enjoying the 1 god I have unlocked rn ☺️

[stuck river]

guess he’s neglecting divinity now

[zinc torrent]

All God's are active when u get doot from lvl 2

[neat siren]

you know how doot works right

[ornate raven]

you should be getting the buffs from all the gods with doot, no matter if you've unlocked them

[nocturne patrol]

first lvl 80 div poggers

[left kindle]

Aint neglecting shit I'm just unlucky

[hallow holly]

just make sure you've got everyone at div 2 atleast and you can just put em all in lab now

[stuck river]

eh

[neat siren]

you don't need to unlock the gods anymore

[ornate raven]

do a 100%

[stable temple]

Why is your maestro afking at cheese nubs

[neat siren]

well you'll still want to eventually but you have doot

[stuck river]

https://i.imgur.com/AKe8Jux.png

[glad isle]

what char

[frank shore]

guess recipe

[left kindle]

farming exp for talent points

[neat siren]

?wiki Divinity

here look at the wiki and see what the gods do

[stuck river]

Nothing was sent

[neat siren]

is the bot dead

it is dead

[hallow holly]

rip bot

[stuck river]

?wiki

[neat siren]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity

[glad isle]

u killed him

[hallow holly]

kama you can be the new bot

[lyric vault]

ummm guys ?

[neat siren]

link to arctis but keep staying on div

[frank shore]

equinox cookin now

[ornate raven]

muderer

[neat siren]

with your non pushers of course

[neat siren]

you should easily be able to do the boss battle one

[glad isle]

slave

[frank shore]

idk what boss battles are

[neat siren]

was about to do weekly boss

[glad isle]

bring those chains

[ornate raven]

world 2 thing on top right

[neat siren]

have you never noticed the thing in w2 town

[frank shore]

this?

[neat siren]

it's like above the shop next to the clown/arcade guy

[frank shore]

i've only killed like 2

[neat siren]

yes that

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 follow this

[glad isle]

bind this monstrosity

[ornate raven]

i believe in you, you can do it

[frank shore]

ok

ah all you do it follow that and you win

[nocturne patrol]

y

[neat siren]

correct

well, sometimes

but at this point each week should be a free win

do get the star talent book, it's pretty good

[gilded elk]

What's the best class for hounds in hole? DK?

[glad isle]

did u start pop obol farming yet?

[neat siren]

should just be sb for best dmg/acc

[frank shore]

oh that's free DR

[neat siren]

indeed it is

[nocturne patrol]

ofc

[neat siren]

ah also, in the guide i sent there are 2 strats you can follow

[frank shore]

been here for so long

[neat siren]

the top one is always the first weekly kill while the bottom one is always the misc stuff

[gilded elk]

that was a reply to me or someone else?

[neat siren]

to you for hounds

[neat siren]

you should always do the top one for the new weekly boss and try to remember to do the bottom one daily as you can get trophies sometimes from the boss daily

[glad isle]

should i start too ?

[neat siren]

you haven't started??

[glad isle]

or i just lasy around

[nocturne patrol]

start

[glad isle]

nope

[nocturne patrol]

dr is the way

[neat siren]

you're past me at this point so it'll take 5 minutes for your pops

[glad isle]

was too lasy

[neat siren]

surely you can do 5 minutes now

[glad isle]

i hope

do i get a full page of bronze obols

or make em silver first

[neat siren]

yes and then get a full page of silver

[nocturne patrol]

bronze first and silver after

[neat siren]

remember to reroll half the bronze to 3% and then combine them

[glad isle]

half 😭

[ornate raven]

why does rerolling a bronze do

[left kindle]

What

[neat siren]

i say half because the one that gets consumed doesn't contribute to it

[nocturne patrol]

i miss some on dk uwu

[glad isle]

when golden

[bleak gazelle]

* Back to Gigafrogs to farm Pop Obols (ES), a full set of bronze for family and personal, then reroll all of them to 3%, then upgrade to silver for 4% (place rerolled obol in left side of combine area, add a base 2% on the right)

[neat siren]

the misc bonuses on obols with those can be rerolled for -1 or +1%

[nocturne patrol]

when i get choco chip

[ornate raven]

oh thx

[nocturne patrol]

so i get 1k fragment per day xd

[ornate raven]

4th

[wooden eagle]

This week I think

[neat siren]

you go for the +1% on bronze because the reroll carries through to each tier afterwards so you save frags by doing it from the beginning

[glad isle]

this might take a while

[wooden eagle]

Or was it next week . But soon

[neat siren]

4th

so next week

[ornate raven]

lol first try

[neat siren]

actually it's 3rd

why are you making dementia luck obols tf

[ornate raven]

i can't read dates

[glad isle]

slab

[neat siren]

makes sense

[ornate raven]

to sell them of course

[left kindle]

Ok so I get the major + minor buffs from all gods. I still need to unlock them to be able to upgrade their blessing right?

[ornate raven]

this is my second

[neat siren]

correct

[left kindle]

Should I push pushing divinity or return to lab?

[neat siren]

lab of course

with goharut you get div gains with lab gains

so never do div again directly

[bleak gazelle]

depends on where in the world you are for people east of the atlantic it'll be the 4th

[hallow holly]

yea you never have to touch divinity again

except for changing your prayer type ig

[neat siren]

timezones? those don't exist wdym

[left kindle]

I never have to sit in divinity jail anymore?

[glad isle]

i can't im failing my combines

[hallow holly]

nope, lab jail does both of em now

[neat siren]

never, but your lab jail is essentially div jail as well

[left kindle]

oh hell yeah

[glad isle]

its my 10th fail 😭

[neat siren]

so you just sit in lab permanently

[hallow holly]

just make sure you're div 2 first on everyone

[neat siren]

(obviously not permanently but you get my point)

and yea make sure you're div level 2 on everyone

otherwise doot doesn't apply

[left kindle]

All these guys are on here perma?

[neat siren]

correct

[hallow holly]

they dont get xp without actually sitting in lab tho

but you get bonuses always

[left kindle]

Yeah but that means I can take someone out of the lab and not lose my buffs

[neat siren]

still, lab jail anyway cus this doesn't fix your nodes

yes correct

whoever your main pusher is anyway, everyone else should still be in lab

[hallow holly]

i rly need to work on my lab after i get my vman

im only at 30ish lab level for all my chars

[neat siren]

jesus

[hallow holly]

lab is boring 😭

i feel like its a waste of time even tho i know its important

[glad isle]

is the pop grind even real

[neat siren]

yes

[neat siren]

well it's not like you can active on all characters at once

[lyric vault]

how long should I stay in dinivity

[neat siren]

until level 40

[glad isle]

not too far

[hallow holly]

no but id rather be working on death note or something

[lyric vault]

lv40 on dinivity gonna take forever

[neat siren]

you can easily do that on es anyway, or if you just use vman and start speedrunning

[left kindle]

ok did Doot double my damage or something?

[neat siren]

did he

[hallow holly]

probably

[neat siren]

this may be why you think he did

[left kindle]

yeah he did

These gods are insane and having all the links is even more insane wtf is this

[hallow holly]

should have my vman in like a week if all goes well

[glad isle]

i don't see any pop obols do i quit farming

[neat siren]

don't

[hoary kernel]

Wait A Bit More

[neat siren]

you are on es right?

[neat siren]

awesome, have fun

[hoary kernel]

Bros Patient Is Thinner Than Tissue

[glad isle]

yeah im using es

[neat siren]

i assume you're staring intently at your obols tab

[bleak gazelle]

i've got some rough time estimates of my own journey here if you want to get an idea
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[glad isle]

i can't with this doot rage bait

[ornate raven]

man i've been lagging behind in my summoning, i just got 3 wins

[left kindle]

isnt this pack really good ??

[neat siren]

he didn't double your damage, he just lets nobisect be active at all times

[neat siren]

yes this is like an S tier pack

[hoary kernel]

Im Already Content With The Fact That i Wont Get Doot Anytime Soon

[hallow holly]

probably, i usually just buy whatevers new

[ornate raven]

don't quit the gamble

[hallow holly]

that one seems to have boosted me alot

[neat siren]

you missed a capital

[hoary kernel]

NOOOOOOO

[frank shore]

who should i kill the dogs with

[glad isle]

looks like im better off farming power statues instead of this pop shi-

[neat siren]

in hole? sb

[hoary kernel]

Goodbye Cruel World, Im Done For 🫡

[glad isle]

oh happy hour is here

[neat siren]

joever

finally will get this overnight

[frosty kraken]

whats the point of crystal mobs?

[ornate raven]

rare drops

[frosty kraken]

oh

[neat siren]

statues

[hallow holly]

alot of what makes active play so rewarding lategame is primarily from crystal spawns

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[fervent yew]

Also statues, also Vman Skill levelups.

the Catharsis when that Tremor worms Crystal mob can't hurt you anymore

[glass escarp]

Does Divinity Efficiency can increase ?

[fervent yew]

the 'effiency' stat never changes, theres no such thing as divinity efficiency

you can however get multipliers to your points gained, and your experience gained.

[glass escarp]

I couldnt find cards for this

[glass escarp]

I guess its only stuff and consomable ?

[glad isle]

this isn't lab 2.0

[neat siren]

cus there are basically no cards you can use for this

[nocturne patrol]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity

[fervent yew]

No cards, but theres bonuses everywhere

[glass escarp]

aaah... it combine with gaming...

[glad isle]

yoo i got a golden pickle chain

[neat siren]

it takes resources from gaming, sailing and atom collider, and also money to level up the blessings

[glass escarp]

alright, thanks guys

[stable temple]

For dungeons, the 20x is once per happy hour?

I have 200+ runs banked but lazy to use them

[nocturne patrol]

can u launch a dungeon solo ?

i miss 2 fragment for t3 keychain xd

[simple wadi]

I think it's once per week, actually.

[simple wadi]

I'll do one with you, Sharki.

Wanna meet me at Penguin 20?

[left kindle]

yeah just make a solo party

[nocturne patrol]

omw

[glad isle]

funny rng

[neat siren]

you should be able to use those as long as you have tickets

also put on the prayer it'll go much quicker

[glad isle]

if

[bleak gazelle]

if

[zinc torrent]

Dungeon cards aren't affected by hh are they?

[sick sentinel]

how do i obtain this resource?

[peak verge]

Construction.

[sick sentinel]

oh atom collider?

i haven't unlocked it so i don't know why i'm getting those lol

[peak verge]

You can only do one 20x run per week. (40x if you use the prayer)

[trail ore]

you cant candy rift afk right?

trying to force my way through to 41, last couple are going to be slow 😦

[stable parrot]

Which rift are you pushing for?

[glad isle]

hey artis

[trail ore]

i want con mastery

currently on 31

[glad isle]

how much dmg required to push 54

[neat siren]

you get those regardless of whether you have it unlocked or not if your printer is printing a resource past 1050m in your storage chest

[stable parrot]

Hell if I know, check the health values if they’re in the wiki or IT and go from there

[glad isle]

oh

chill

[trail ore]

its like 2-300T HP per mob

[stable parrot]

-# Didn’t mean it to be rude

[glad isle]

looks like i need more dmg

[stable parrot]

Depending on your progression, power bubbles and crystal steak may be what you need

And ofc main stat/ all stat to scale it

I don’t know that timeframe when later rifts are done exactly

[glad isle]

looks like i push Rift later

[nocturne patrol]

oh 3rd

[simple wadi]

@nocturne patrol No, I didn't have 100% block. Why?

[frank shore]

man i need a lot of stuff for alch

[stable parrot]

Yea it’s important

[nocturne patrol]

cuz i struggle with last mob if i dont have legendary rng that give u tons of damage crit or high block chance aha

[simple wadi]

Ah. It really helps to have all the purchasable stats maxed.

[stable parrot]

R50 really helps with that

[nocturne patrol]

oh okay

[frank shore]

my people are so close to being done with div/lab jail

[simple wadi]

You're almost to 2100 lab level?

[frank shore]

done for ||now||

i've been stuck in lab for weeks

[glad isle]

Jails are just like that

[fiery igloo]

Why do we have to get 2100 lab level again

[frank shore]

you want alchemy bubble 90 for most of the bubbles right

or efficiency 90

[peak verge]

It's funny :3

[glad isle]

i would rather say jade is expensive

[frosty kraken]

is pushing for w6 worth

[trail ore]

probably? there's two schools of thought

[frosty kraken]

world 5 feels comfy

[trail ore]

world 6 has a lot of time gated skills and so its good to get those started, and a lot of multipliers for the earlier grinds as well so it can help get progress faster

But, its also more things to track and if you've been pushing quickly through the game especially post-vault, you probably have a lot of mistakes or earlier mechanics that you're missing that can be good to get a handle on before adding yet another layer to the game

[hushed barn]

How do you get silver circle drop chance orbs?

[frosty kraken]

im definitely lacking in a lot

zero cooking. barely any worship

alch behind

[trail ore]

kill gigafrogs with an ES, get POP obols, reroll some bronze ones to 3% (enough for family and personal tab), then combine those 3%s with more 2% pops

[peak verge]

Combine 2 bronze

[trail ore]

yeah, so getting those up is good, but also there's some pretty early multipliers in W6 that help a lot as well, like a pretty early jade upgrade gives a sizable % damage boost based on how many crops youve found in farming, which helps a lot with CC on your bubo for alch progression early

[hushed barn]

Why do es instead if dk?

[simple wadi]

If a drop is on the first page of the drop table, use ES. If it's on the seond page, use DK.

[frosty kraken]

yea im pushing with dk, leveling my beginner and maestro, everyone else in lab

[zinc torrent]

The 3 jewels that are unlocked later in Jade Emporium

[hushed barn]

👍

Thank you

[trail ore]

im probably taking a lab break at 1000

[languid mist]

I'm trying to gathe some consensus on this: should I max my metal detector dream for better gaming nuggets or is 1~2 levels enough to start with? I've also been investing in slow roast wiz for better TD waves and would like to eventually max liquidvestment for better overnight CC sessions.

[bleak gazelle]

i'd max liquidvestment first

TD is nice but also requires you to actually do it, same with nugget

[simple wadi]

5 or so in metal detector is fine for now. You'll want to max it later, but there's more important stuff.

[bleak gazelle]

liquid you still technically need to hit the level up button, but you generate liquid regardless of anything else

[simple wadi]

What bonus options do you have for Equinox?

[languid mist]

This is where I'm currently at

[neat siren]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message from scoli themself

[languid mist]

Unlocked metal detector today

[simple wadi]

Thanks, I'll change what I say =3

[neat siren]

gotta spread the word

[simple wadi]

I'd put 4 more points in metal detector and the rest in liquidvestment. Slow Roast Wiz is fine at 6%

[languid mist]

Sounds good. I do want to all in liquidvestment thanks to the % I can get it to but I'm so frustrated with these shitty nuggets so I needed a good number to stop speccing into metal detector at.

[simple wadi]

Equinox symbols and Faux Jewels are both key ones to max, so I wouldn't waste upgrades on shitty bonuses until you get those two. Even if your upgrade bar is maxed.

[hushed barn]

Good card layout?

[left magnet]

is it crazy to spam candies for the (regular) hampter grind?

[simple wadi]

I'm not really sure what that top left one does, haha

[frosty kraken]

is there an updated gem usage tierlist?

[neat siren]

nah, es is much better

[left magnet]

I think spamming candies is pretty much the fastest rare drop method, though not sustainable. not like I'm spending them elsewhere

[neat siren]

up to you

[hidden crescent]

do motherlode ore actually do anything?

[bleak gazelle]

depends on how many you're getting per candy

[languid mist]

You collect it to contribute towards breaking a layer

[bleak gazelle]

there's a schematic that gives you bucket rate per ore mined, but other than that it's just used for the layers

[trail ore]

what do i need to do to get better at the W2 weekly boss battle?

[languid mist]

Use the autoreviewer, it tells you stuff like what mobs you need to kill on which characters. Aside from that I'd follow the weekly w2 boss guide posted in this discord. I beat it for the first time thanks to it

[bleak gazelle]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[tiny imp]

best class to active on hole cavern 15?

[bleak gazelle]

you can look ahead for future requirements too

[stable parrot]

SB but not for statues

[bleak gazelle]

SB, same exact thing as c9

[tiny imp]

ah alr ty

[tiny imp]

wait ppl active c9?

[bleak gazelle]

just more clicking involved

cards and kills for layers for opals

[stable parrot]

Not rly

[tiny imp]

oh lol i just afk there

[stable parrot]

As you should

[bleak gazelle]

ah, were you not at c9 before the change then?

[tiny imp]

prob not

also how do i active my sb there?

like high droprate or kph build

[bleak gazelle]

i'm lazy and just do crystal setup

could probably swap to more damage since golems are tankier

[tiny imp]

bet

[frozen oyster]

At 100 ladles a day is it worth just having him afk there

[long snow]

kinda confused do i need to do the dive grind as soon as i reach w5 on all my toons except the pusher ? i already have doot

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[frozen oyster]

Everyone needs to get level 2 in divinity

[bleak gazelle]

Yes-ish

[frozen oyster]

Otherwise you’re trolling

[long snow]

i have every1 at level 2, can i just go to lab ?

[frozen oyster]

Yep

[long snow]

i unlocked up till hare god

[frozen oyster]

Doesn’t matter other then purmep

[trail ore]

is this any good?

and similarly i have no idea if this one is worthwhile or not

thanks ace 🙂

[latent shoal]

what cattlekruk difficulty is best for cavity teeth?

[bleak gazelle]

artifact and rare chance are typically not good because their bonuses are "useless" since they only affect chests that particular captain brings back and if you don't get a rare/arti then you missed out on having extra loot from a loot specced captain

[frozen oyster]

Does loot spec also increase your artifact find

Or are those 2 different rolls

[bleak gazelle]

two different rolls, can be found on wiki

If not Miracle Chest:
Loot:    BoatLootVal * POWER(1.85, ChestRarity(0,5))
Arti:    BoatArtiMulti * POWER(1.70, ChestRarity(0,5))```

[frozen oyster]

Ah wasn’t sure if loot value also effected the type of chests since they show different odds

[trail ore]

i never get good captain options 😦

[frozen oyster]

All I have are red captains with cloud speed 😦

[neat pasture]

What is torch chance? Just got a bonus to it in the hole.

[zinc torrent]

It's last cavern, if you don't know, probably won't need to worry about it til w7 release

[bleak gazelle]

Unfortunately not, here's the stuff for chest rarity. I'm unsure of the exact formula for how unending loot upgrades, but from the talent info
With this talent invested, when there is 1 empty chest space left in the loot pile, returning boats will deposit their loot and embark on a new voyage right away. Existing chests will have a chance to be upgraded to a higher rarity. If they fail, the loot value of the chest is effectively lost but captains will still gain exp. This skill is more useful for players who cannot frequently check their loot pile.
which means the loot value shouldn't affect it either

[split meteor]

oh wow getting 2 items in shop per day am end game now

[peak verge]

the threshhold for that stamp level is achievable in like w1-w2

[split meteor]

delgado youre secretly scoli always trying to say im in w2 when im in w6

[manic pivot]

Peeps is it possible to reset Cosmo points in cavern?

[lilac vault]

Get to the lamp

[peak verge]

I mean the stamp level required for an extra item in stock is like.... 30-50? Which should be very easy to get very early on. Maybe even less.

[tiny imp]

whats the best stopping point in sanctum for pushing?

c15

[stable parrot]

33 seems to be the limit

[tiny imp]

so 33 it is

on 17 currently

[stable parrot]

27 is where it slowed down a lot at least for me

[tiny imp]

i see

how many days did it take u to reach 27

[tired gorge]

there we go i reposted my guild

[stable parrot]

I did 1-20 in one day and then 20-27 in like 2ish other days

[frozen oyster]

Please tell me whatever comes after hives is interesting

I’m over lamp already

[tired gorge]

im trying to get 3 dementa stars for my guild Ball Quest.co also my webpage

[split meteor]

after hive is the statue farming one pretty good cavern imo

[tired gorge]

has been since 2023

[stable parrot]

C9 is the grotto aka gloomies aka villager statue aka an xp multi

[frozen oyster]

Pog more xp multi 100k per hour is real slow

[languid mist]

Would you guys deposit villager statues before onyxing them just for the sake of getting the exp multi now?

[split meteor]

and you get to challenge the monarch so thats fun

[hushed barn]

Should i replace the 4 sparkles in the middle with drop rate or no

[frozen oyster]

One thing I had tho is sending my miner on motherlode. I don’t want the XP man

[forest onyx]

I did but it also didn’t take me long to onyx them either so it didn’t matter to me.

[languid mist]

I'm at 6k statues and I started on whichever was the day we got the droprate ballot bonus. How long did it take you?

[frozen oyster]

At what drop rate post

[split meteor]

i deposited 50 statues just because the bonus statues give is decaying so i figured the first 50 would be a fairly big increase, now just farming for 20k

[forest onyx]

It took me like 2 days to get the 20k statues and that was after I farmed a few thousand first

[languid mist]

Varying across all my chars but minimum 12x, max 15.4x. With this week's bonus.

[split meteor]

god dang 2 days O.O did you ahve all characters on it? i only put 3 on it

[languid mist]

That's sick. It feels like such a slog for me and I'm doing it on 6~8 characters.

[frozen oyster]

Oof diff not going to be farming them yet at 10 drop rate

[forest onyx]

My DR is only around 10…..

[languid mist]

honestly only reason im doing it now is because of the weekly bonus + i'm locked out of the 9 character portal lock for now in w6

[forest onyx]

Yea im not sure how I got so many so fast

[languid mist]

You got 20k in 2 days with 10x DR? wtf i'm doing something wrong then. What's your multikill at?

[forest onyx]

I have to go check

[languid mist]

I'm at 17~30T max damage across my characters

[stable parrot]

That doesn’t help with knowing how much MK you have

[languid mist]

yah true, all my characters have that mk per onyx statue as well

[frozen oyster]

Ok right I need multikill for those statues since they are boss drops

[stable parrot]

It’s found in the afk menu

[forest onyx]

6,400 multikill
281% afk gain rate

[subtle tree]

All characters on vitalic or mantra is better

[languid mist]

Oh. My max multikill, naturally on my SB, is at 5267%. My afk rate is at 215%. That might be it then.

[frozen oyster]

Mantra gives 0 div so I’d go vital

Is it not worth doing with ES due to portal spawns?

[forest onyx]

I think I had 8 characters on it and It’s possible my afk time doubled with some of them. Which would help I’m assuming.

[split meteor]

bro is goated i aspire to have such good mk and etc

[solar seal]

a "double proc" is only for xp. it doesn't double anything else

[frozen oyster]

I’m at 5 billion damage. I don’t think I’ll be doing that cave for a minute

[languid mist]

Farming and Power of tri bubbles have skyrocketed my damage, it's disgusting. Going from mid billions to early Ts just with a few bubble clicks

[languid mist]

ES portal doesnt spawn Gloomies

[frozen oyster]

Ahhh so ES sucks

[languid mist]

if you wanna respawn gloomies actively, do it with SB

[frozen oyster]

Guess I gatta gear my other characters up for once

Then max out my bubble damage and find out where to get that red ore

[forest onyx]

Sad news. Thanks for the clarification.

[tawdry burrow]

so the wiki and reddit have been zero help, but where do i get the ancient golem cards to drop?

[solar seal]

from the golem mob in c15

[frozen oyster]

For the question mark I need to level the purple total damage stamp and all the bubbles that give total damage

[languid mist]

Dreadlo ore is found after the void ore area

[solar seal]

i question marked asking what red ore. something like this shouldn't be a mystery

[frozen oyster]

Oh then I have it unlocked just haven’t gone. Need to because I already green stacked the other 2

[tawdry burrow]

christ in heaven. im at 7 lol. tysm

[frozen oyster]

I haven’t been back to caves since my last prints. So didn’t check if it was 2 areas down or just 1

[ripe nacelle]

!gemshop

[solar seal]

1. try not to use bot commands outside of https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/596275211872108544
2. this list is terribly outdated and bad advice. i recommend using either !it or !review tier list instead

[frozen oyster]

Is the early summoning strat to just sack defense and send an army down top or bot

Seems like the only way for me to win with only green and white

[hard crest]

I thought it was stack attack

[zinc torrent]

Stack atk

[frozen oyster]

Oh completely ignore health upgrades?

[hard crest]

wouldnt ignore it per say

[zinc torrent]

Don't remember the bonus rn, but when you get hit your dmg goes up

[split meteor]

oh hell thats interesting, wonder what happens if i click that bubble lol

[frozen oyster]

Will have to do that I’ve been doing them equally

[split meteor]

aw thought i could spam click it no luck forgot i spent all my bits on bell

[languid mist]

That's from the red summoning stone. Probably a bit down the line, not so much of an early upgrade.

[zinc torrent]

Yeahhh, that's peak summoning

Until the 1hp ones

[languid mist]

Early on hp and mana regen helped me immensely, paired with the click damage ability. Once I unlocked the red stone it was all in into attack because the attack values were scaling faster on the battles than what I could keep up with.

[hard crest]

always mana regen

[languid mist]

mana regen still plays a crucial role at all stages though, especially in endless summoning

[frozen oyster]

Summoning and sneaking are vibes but farming

Yuck

[languid mist]

my farming is completely fucked because all i do is let it unlock new crops, i have barely touched the night market

[hard crest]

farmings just slow

[frozen oyster]

Not even slow. But I have to actively go there and I don’t know how long it takes cause I never check the time on the info

So I just check it once a day

[zenith torrent]

farming is not that bad once you do your first 100K bean trade

[languid mist]

it could be fast(er) if done properly but alas, i dont enjoy it enough to care yet. summoning has me on a chokehold though, i cant get enough of it

[hard crest]

oh, so just a few weeks-months in, nice

[frozen oyster]

Sneaking is fun because my numbers go up fast

Started making millions an hour

But damn does the game hate to give me loot

[dense cargo]

Is the 2000 hour bonus for bravery and justice monuments worth it?

[zenith torrent]

check "idleon autoreview" it will help you know what to upgrade in farming

[zenith torrent]

am hard stuck at mastery 2 😭

waiting for the bonus in the nothing afk island

[frozen oyster]

I was watching my friend stream on vc and I think he reached w6 a day later or maybe later that night. Dude has 2 rows of plots already

Man really bought every +1 plot

[split meteor]

not understanding farming really just cripples your progress, only 3 days ago i decided to fully learn it until i understand it all and it completely spiked in progress

[frosty kraken]

where is the memory game thing

[split meteor]

breeding was the same back in w4 was so confusing for a very long time

[zenith torrent]

W5 hole cavern 13

[frosty kraken]

oh

im nowhere near that

[split meteor]

i really dont want a new time sink mechanic 🤮

[zenith torrent]

idleon truelly needs more of the clicker games

1 clicker/world

[frosty kraken]

but its an idle game

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-40123618314459872

[frosty kraken]

not activeon

[zenith torrent]

(am talking about the owl and the rat kangaroo thingy)

[frosty kraken]

yeah i cant bring myself to do that

[zenith torrent]

say that to my DK who went from 530 to 602 in 4 hours of active farming

my class XP multi is not even that high XD

[split meteor]

gonna have to bite the bullet and just dump 9 characters on each of these for a week at a time

[frosty kraken]

whats the best way to get a boss key for world 5

[zinc torrent]

Farming wurms

[peak verge]

Kill the mobs that drop it or W5 colo

[frosty kraken]

guy is saying to kill 6m moles

im like no way

[zenith torrent]

the last map in W5

[zinc torrent]

They're good for CC too

[split meteor]

well for a single one start the quest in the map and kill the bigole moles for the drop, shouldnt be too long probably one night you should get a few

for farming keys cc farming tremur worms youll get hundreds upon hundreds of key

[manic pivot]

Peeps do the 'family' talents across the same class (2 DKs) stack?

[solar seal]

no account wide talents stack (although family guy talent isn't account wide)

[manic pivot]

Aight thanks Kaito

[split meteor]

was just wondering if id see you sometime soon, wanted to ask about having 2 blood berserkers on your account

is this how it works? if first blood berserker has 1b kills and second blood berserker has 1m kills then both blood berserkers get the 1m wow/chow/etc benefits?

and then if first blood berserker has 1m kills and second blood berserker has 1b kills then both blood berserkers get the 1b wow/chow/etc?

[peak verge]

I don't think they have any reason to stack since the buff is for the individual character, not account wide + you need personal kills for the talent to be active.

That's not even mentioning how hard you cripple your construction by not having 2 DKs.

[split meteor]

i had just seen a lot of people talking about some type of glitch with blood berserkers, where the first one doesnt get the benefits of its own total kills

[peak verge]

That's odd but idk why it would be BB specific unless 🍝 code.

[solar seal]

it used to be a bug between what platform you played on. but lava just hardcode it now that 2nd bb/db has to be the one to schow and wow

[coral rampart]

yep

[split meteor]

so both blood berserkers get the benefit of the second bb's kill tally? i want to understand if when we see someone ask which class to pick

[peak verge]

That's a thing? Tf?

[peak verge]

Just give'm the pasta.

3 options:
-current meta: ES and SB are 9th and 10th - however, current value has fallen for these two as a result of pocket divinity and forge cap increases
-semi-future proofing: mage and archer as 9th and 10th - in order to maintain a balanced 3/3/3/1 split - this will allow you to have focused samples while not locking in elites/master classes until we have all information
-ultra-future proofing: leaving 9th and 10th as beginner - until we have more information on remaining 2 master classes, you simply utilize these 2 characters in jails while biding time until their release

[solar seal]

i will likely get it swapped. but if you played on steam, it was 1st bb could schow while mobile had to have 2nd bb schow - or some stupid thing like that. but if you ever swapped platforms - ever - it defaulted you to 1 even if you only logged in for like 2 seconds. its why the whole situation was screwed up as fck

[peak verge]

Each day I find more and more reasons to thank God for not installing this game on mobile.

[coral rampart]

it was
mobile no steam - first bb
pc - second bb
mobile but at any point log in through steam - second bb

[split meteor]

right delgado, but a lot of newbs think they will be investing a lot of time in fishing, and cooking, so they fall in this trap of picking 2 blood berserkers and then lose all their kills progress, i want to understand how it works to address them,

[solar seal]

^ clueless got my back. i had it swapped

[peak verge]

That is no longer our concern. We told them everything they need to know. After that some lessons are better learned on your own.

[coral rampart]

you really don't need 2 bbs for cooking

and fishing is easy since roo

[split meteor]

tbh on a new account i never spent a moment in fishing unless unlocking a new tool, but new players think its a mass time investment

[peak verge]

Worst case scenario they use a class swap token. As long as they don't screw up the 3/3/3/1 base class ratio, they'll be fine.

You can easily tell them they'll be spending a fuckton more time in stuff like lab/divinity/trapping/worship etc. but it won't justify duplicating a class for no reason.

[split meteor]

cool, good to know guys, before i had to say "theres some form of glitch with bb so be careful for picking another one"

[peak verge]

That also works if it would take too long to convince them.

[split meteor]

but now i can actually explain what theyll be looking at

[coral rampart]

second dk is just better though no?

[split meteor]

yh big time

[frosty kraken]

what do i need to know before fighting w5 boss first time

[peak verge]

Construction goes brr

[peak verge]

If you have 30M dmg, just hit it.

[coral rampart]

i heard talk about second db if lava makes bones afk or something

[frosty kraken]

i have 5.8m

[echo crag]

lets first see how lava implant bone afk first

[split meteor]

you just need enough damage to one shot the moles, otherwise they overrun your screen and heal kruk

if you have any character that can control aoe hes just a easy afk boss

[coral rampart]

its a damage check. if you can easily kill moles you can beat the boss

[peak verge]

How did you make it to the end of W5 with 6m dmg

[coral rampart]

probably real slow

[frosty kraken]

i candied my way

[peak verge]

Welp, candy your way backwards into the alchemy pot.

[split meteor]

bro has more candy than i have copper ore wth

[coral rampart]

you silly goose

[peak verge]

Did you do any divinity?

[frosty kraken]

yeah i have doot and goat god

[peak verge]

11M*. We always ask for max dmg.

[tall violet]

should i reset for new bonuses?

[frosty kraken]

oh

[orchid moss]

Yea you want rupie chance

[coral rampart]

either way you need to backwards prog. your damage is wayyy too low

[frosty kraken]

dam what do i need to do

[peak verge]

Alchemy for a start

[coral rampart]

candying on dk as well T_T

[frosty kraken]

LOL

[orchid moss]

But I would just wait til you get a level in bell study then reset

[frosty kraken]

i just wanted to hit world 6

[peak verge]

A noble goal.

[split meteor]

what helped me when i was dps checked by kruk was getting the alchemy bubbles like hocus choppus that increase my skilling efficiency, that cycled into getting more 3d prints for bubbles that improve damage

[tall violet]

bell study?

[orchid moss]

do you have librarian

[frosty kraken]

yes

oh wrong person

[tall violet]

oh not yet - like 2 hours away

[orchid moss]

oh just wait to reset once you get her and get lvl 1 in bell study

[frosty kraken]

bruh 11m to 30m dmg?

[tall violet]

thanks

[frosty kraken]

how do i 3x my dmg

[split meteor]

you might be missing stamps altogether which is very easy dps increase

[peak verge]

Pull for Golem.

[orchid moss]

light work i got like 100t damage yesterday

[orchid moss]

you are cooked

[frosty kraken]

LMAO

[orchid moss]

can you drop your it/ie

[peak verge]

At this point, we redirect you towards !review because it's gonna take less than trying to fix everything that's wrong.

[bleak gazelle]

If you want to compare, here was my alt when I killed kruk, BB with ~90m
https://altcow.idleonefficiency.com/

[orchid moss]

you can also honestly just follow autoreview yea

[frosty kraken]

!review

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[peak verge]

boy if you don't get your act together

thank you

[orchid moss]

hope you're ready to click torches for hours

[bleak gazelle]

when 16

[peak verge]

Gonna take me 16 days to unlock golems.

[split meteor]

did you know theres like 5 different stamps that all give total damage? you should complete those you could probably easily double your damage

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Stamps

sorry for webpage preview

[orchid moss]

cant you just do ?wiki stamps

[rugged sapphire]

hi

is anyone here?

[orchid moss]

no

[bleak gazelle]

[rugged sapphire]

the wiki exp info seems to be wrong for the explorer

[tidal ravine]

how does "the family guy" actually work? I put in 150 skill points on an es and bubo but my skills with points havent gone up at all?

[bleak gazelle]

family guy talent only gives extra bonus to the character that it's on

[orchid moss]

[rugged sapphire]

what are the exact requirements for the nre caverns?

[rugged sapphire]

Like It says 5b for the 15th cavern but it's like 38 bil

[orchid moss]

oh it is wrong it probably hasnt been updated

[bleak gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KxXJxr7D6B8b3uFE6OXWaCMICedIQjM-oIg0NqkmSOY/edit?usp=sharing

[rugged sapphire]

Thanks!

[peak verge]

There was an embargo on the wiki until 26th so that's why it wasn't updated yet.

[solar seal]

lava adjusted it when c11-15 was released, prob just needs to be tweaked

[orchid moss]

ah

[split meteor]

i dont freaking want to go to work bye guys

[orchid moss]

bye bye

[solar seal]

welcome to B club

[bleak gazelle]

that's clearly just elderly M club

[orchid moss]

[tidal ravine]

following up on this, when I remove the skill points from family guy, talents level doesn't decrease, according to the wiki the talents are supposed to change from my understanding

[bleak gazelle]

depends on how big your base family bonus is and how many points you have in it. also I don't think it works if the points are in your lower leveled class if you have two of them
probably need to cloud save, too

[soft zealot]

what a productive day

[bleak gazelle]

@neat pasture guessing your SB isn't level 2 div

[neat pasture]

yep lol i also accidently posted it in this chat

[frank shore]

what are these

[ornate raven]

Essence

[frank shore]

from?

[peak verge]

summoning

[ornate raven]

World 6 summoning

[frank shore]

oh

holy fk this is so far away

[orchid moss]

holy the royal egg map is so trash

[delicate orbit]

yes yes but minichiefs are like the greatest

[orchid moss]

yea 10 hours to get past egg

[delicate orbit]

not that bad

[broken hollow]

What were villagers needed lvls to get everything?

[simple wadi]

15-29- 🤷 -16- 🤷

[broken hollow]

Good then, ill put everything into bolaia

[nocturne patrol]

popopopop

[uneven coral]

to what level do u guys lab jail your toons?

im wondering when i start pulling em all out and just wreak havoc

[simple wadi]

Until your total lab levels across all characters are 2100

Or before then. It's your account, do what you will.

[uneven coral]

lv210 lab levels? gad damn

[trail ore]

1k seems like a good starter goal if you're new to the game, its a decent way to get a lot of bonuses and then you can take a short break to focus on some other multipliers before going back

[uneven coral]

im currently at W6 but very early on

only unlocked like 3 maps in

[simple wadi]

Don't let Cass fool you, Jef. She's a fraudster. She's attempting to bamboozle you. Stick to your guns. Stay the course until 2100. She wants you to fail, she thrives on your faults. Be better, do better. Be the 2100 lab level guy.

[coarse stag]

Is divinity a specialized skill? Can i buff it with the base talents?

[uneven coral]

focusing back on gear coz im literally on just amarok gear on W6 kekw

salts and souls are time locking me hard

[viscid plover]

You unlock an extrs 3 gems for lab and the cost is really high but you can get them for free every 700 lab levels so 2100 across all chars

[uneven coral]

wow ya'll aint joking to hit 2100 levels

[simple wadi]

=3

[trail ore]

I mean you need 3QQ Jade for 2100 to matter

which is gonna take awhile

[peak verge]

Just gotta figure out when's the right time to commit to it, since it's a bit of a time sink.

[uneven coral]

its... gonna take awhile

[trail ore]

2100 is definitely worthwhile but if youre just into W5/W6 you aren't going to get there for a long time, so there's other stuff thats worth investing in along the way im pretty sure

like doing 2100 lab without any monument seems like its probably incorrect?

[brazen quest]

first non guaranteed fight after skipping 21

[uneven coral]

a very long time indeed, im just currently focusing what i've neglected in W3/W4 stuff, basically gears and soul farms im soooo far behind in souls

[brazen quest]

max roll was over 400k I think

[uneven coral]

i rushed W6 to unlock sneaking ASAP

[simple wadi]

These are what you get for 2100 lab levels. There's probably more important bonuses, but the 2100 lab levels was the most accurate answer to your question.

[uneven coral]

i was hoping to hear like 1k for an answer

not 2100 my god

[zinc torrent]

I can relate.

When I started pushing W6, I hadn't even started Dune Souls yet.

Don't know when I'm going to get around to starting Squishy and Oozie...

[brazen quest]

lab xp is affected by prowess, even just with the basic shoes and rings you get everyone up to 100 in a couple days if you have good global efficiency buffs

and ofc everyone behind bubo for the talent

[trail ore]

i should farm those

[pastel kayak]

Stuck on that fight for new spice

[trail ore]

can you affect the order? I thought it was character creation based

[brazen quest]

talent is based on their actual position in the grid

[trail ore]

ah

[brazen quest]

gem upgrade is order

[zinc torrent]

Green Tubes and Purple Tubes are based on Bubo's position in the matrix relative to others.

Souped Up Tubes is affected by both upload order and character creation order.

The first two characters uploaded benefit from the first purchase, the 3rd and 4th characters uploaded benefit from the second purchase, and so forth. Then, whoever is uploaded is sorted by character creation order

[trail ore]

so putting bubo at the rightmost spot maximizes exp?

[brazen quest]

what could've easily been a 40 chest bravery run became sub 30 just by 5k damage

[simple wadi]

Wut. No.

Souped Up Tubes is based on the chronological order you place characters in the tubes, and THEN it's affected by character creation order.

If you only have two people placed in the tubes, it doesn't matter when you made them.

[zinc torrent]

Edited for clarification; thanks for that

[light bough]

what food ru guys using?

[brazen quest]

didn't read the whole message properly, saw only order and missed the character creation part

btw guys snail reset is a separate chance after the fail one right? cuz every time I've failed it also reset with like 20% chance 😔

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, two separate rolls
success/fail
then reset/no reset

[brazen quest]

damn so I got both my snail and bravery run ruined by a <10% chance today

[solar drift]

[peak verge]

Show on non-vman 🔫

[peak verge]

I can respect that.

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I won 3 summoning battles last night and got to round 71 in arena last night

[deep rose]

guys i js started rift what character should i use to get past the first challenge

[peak verge]

your best character

[deep rose]

my best is bloodberserker but its too slow

[peak verge]

your next best character

[hard crest]

dang 4/13 on purple

[pastel kayak]

Is that bad?

[simple wadi]

Nope, progress is progress.

Keep it up, Mew

[hard crest]

[pastel kayak]

Been trying have main active at mini chiefs this morning for a few hours

[deep rose]

😔 didnt work

[orchid marsh]

which villager should i be putting my opals into / prioritize?

[rugged sapphire]

explorer

[sturdy helm]

uh am i missing smth or should it be working

[solar drift]

visual bug

[left kindle]

this makes all my shrines global?

[proud mural]

Gearing up to make Troll armor, unlocked all recipes and have enough to make one set. Im not close to getting 100% W6 stones, so I assume I should put W5 stones on it. Which char should I put the troll armor on, and should I stone main stat or acc stat?

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37

[bleak gazelle]

Use W6, they're still better even if you fail 2

[peak verge]

If you can make troll, I'd say you're way past stoning for accuracy.

[left kindle]

oh gotcha so both are still useful, thanks

[proud mural]

Yeah acc is pretty high, a few zones into w6, but its slow going. Should I have troll on DK or ES (or SB)?

[peak verge]

Whichever you need most.

[zinc torrent]

Do you have Doot? If not, what are your God/Pocket Divinity links?

[peak verge]

You might be able to go straight to divine armor, so dw too much about it.

[trail ore]

DK is usually the pusher i see recommended most

[orchid moss]

some of the w6 maps are poo tho so you push afk

[deep rose]

can anyone help me ? im at the last map in w5 but i dont seem to do much dmg

[proud mural]

No Doot. DK is Nobi, with Harr and Sneh on the cavern stones. SB and ES are arctis.

[trail ore]

what character and whats your range

[zinc torrent]

So, you can get the most KPH in W6 maps with either DB on Nobisect link, or use ES Polytheism to have Nobi second link.

At least this is my personal experience so far (no MK yet)

[orchid moss]

you can fully connect lab with only 2 on arctis?

thats kinda goated

[deep rose]

im running a lvl 327 bloodberserker but my range is like 6-17m

[trail ore]

pick another character to push with would be my recommendation

[bleak gazelle]

brother. have you done your zows?

Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[proud mural]

Got handfuls of alts with Goat sittin in lab or other errand runners on Arctis, 9/10 are in lab in some way

[orchid moss]

ah ic

personally once you have lab 75 and div 40 id just start hole jailing

but if w6 pushing is slow it generally just means it's time to start working on your acc

[proud mural]

Oh good call, I do have Nobi as the 4th god on my ES.

[proper solstice]

750(75/char) lab first is a good stopping point from what ive seen

[orchid moss]

there is no point in doing 2100 lab if you are way off from buying the upgrade in jade emp

[trail ore]

yeah

[proper solstice]

yeap 750 then wait for jade

my only bottleneck for trapping now is green salts

[deep rose]

other than the world 5 stuff everything is alright ill see if i can increase dmg through cooking

[orchid moss]

only reason to push past 75 imo is if you cant hit every node for some reason

[zinc torrent]

Quite a few of the W6 maps are too spread out for DK to be effective at active pushing, and if your damage hasn't yet caught up, that also negates DK's mob respawn

[proper solstice]

4.8k/10k needed for all chars to get it to my goal

[bleak gazelle]

have you done all your w1-5 zows on your BB?

[trail ore]

1K seems ok for the skill master bonus but 750 seems fine

[deep rose]

whats a zow

[peak verge]

I heavily doubt it. Just a hunch.

[orchid moss]

oh i have to do w6 zows now

[orchid moss]

have them drop autorev progression rating

[peak verge]

what's your first character's name @deep rose

[deep rose]

i should probs do this i have only done 17

[proper solstice]

my autorev for stamps is locked rn bc of a certain quest being a pain in ze butt

[orchid moss]

gapple and steve sword?

[proper solstice]

Im inches away from early w6 on stamps so im not focused on em too much

[orchid moss]

shoudl be ez once you get choco ngl

[proper solstice]

yea prob

especially since Ill have to get 20k strength statues(honestly w/ my rediculously high shrine lvls for my stage it shouldnt be too hard(I need to level up genie card tho)

[nocturne patrol]

hope 20k statue is fast when u have choco chip xd

[orchid moss]

too many other factors

like dr and base crystal chance

choco not gonna proc if your base crystal chance is trash

[trail ore]

where do you check base crystal chance?

[zinc torrent]

Choco will proc

[orchid moss]

yea it will proc i just mean your rates will still be not that good

[orchid moss]

on it/ie

[nocturne patrol]

ty doubler

[proper solstice]

1/492 base crystal odds w/o cards or cmon out crystals rn

for my dk

[orchid moss]

that seems pretty bad but you should farm out the cards

[peak verge]

no public IE

[orchid moss]

[proper solstice]

thats just these 2 stats

[zinc torrent]

492 not good, but cards huge

[proper solstice]

gonna pump that stamp up

[orchid moss]

get your stamp up

[proper solstice]

just havnt bothered lmao

[bleak gazelle]

ahh shit, you know, i've been working on DR on alt and waiting for choco...forgot I needed to build my shrine

[proper solstice]

I cant farm pre crystal anyways

[bleak gazelle]

rip construction, held back by TD

[trail ore]

where on IT/IE

[proper solstice]

mines backwards, TD held back by construction

[orchid moss]

udner stats

[deep rose]

how many is enough

[trail ore]

F

[ember edge]

ay, finished relics in 2-3weeks, thank god for the relic bonuses lol

[proper solstice]

if it would update my stats I could tell u my odds w/ cards and the special talent

[orchid moss]

i am held back by laziness, we are not the same

[bleak gazelle]

cloud save and refresh

[proper solstice]

I did thrice

not too bad for not even trying and just slapping it on

[peak verge]

1/80 or bust

[verbal acorn]

1/1 you can do it come on

[proper solstice]

first lvl 13!

[zinc torrent]

W/ choco you'll get about 4 per spawn, utilize the daily reset

[proper solstice]

I spend more copper or itd be first

[proper fractal]

what class should the 9th charcter be?
i have 2 of each

[proper solstice]

at 6mil/hr after all

[bleak gazelle]

wdym 2 of each

[peak verge]

that is very concerning

[soft zealot]

great googley moogley, vman talents are busted

[proper fractal]

2 archer 2 mage 2 meele (i dunno name) 2 begginer

[proper solstice]

yea and they just keep growing for some of em hektik

[orchid moss]

2 beginner WC

[trail ore]

not two maestro right?

[proper fractal]

no

[peak verge]

Just beginners, right? Not jman or maestro or such?

[proper fractal]

i gotta get their skills up ;-; rn they're the 2nd one

[trail ore]

F

[orchid moss]

yo do not get 2 maestros

😭

[proper solstice]

soon(mostly gonna be my vman level ups for a little while but hey ill get there)

[bleak gazelle]

did you ever turn your warriors into squire/barb dk/bb etc?

[proper fractal]

yeye i ment like 2 of each base charcter i got 1 of each of the classes

[verbal acorn]

torture

[bleak gazelle]

make another DK

[proper fractal]

other than this cuz i dunno the name i got 2

is dk warrior?

[orchid moss]

yes

[zinc torrent]

warrior, squire, dk

[proper fractal]

kk tyty

[bleak gazelle]

warrior > squire > divine knight

[orchid moss]

is that 2 jmans?

[proper fractal]

ye

[proper solstice]

Im finally maxing salt lick

[orchid moss]

it is cooked

[bitter echo]

im currently grinding out my w4 onyxs, not looking forward to w5 and w6

[proper fractal]

how bad is that ;-;

[orchid moss]

w5 is probably the 2nd easiest

[proper solstice]

I finally have enough stuff built to be able to ignore building one thing to max it out real quick

gamba finally paid off!

[bitter echo]

cause of CCing im already like 40% through w5 anyways

[orchid moss]

uh 2 secret classes is generally not recommended because their buff skills dont stack

[bitter echo]

moved everyone off of c9 to afk pushing w6 now cause i wanna get past leeks for meals

[orchid moss]

the general class distribution people use is 3/3/3/1

[proper fractal]

O dang, so now i gotta hope lava adds a class change

[zinc torrent]

GL with that

[proper solstice]

a class reset would be nice for some

[orchid moss]

What should my 9th and 10th characters be?
3 options:
-current meta: ES and SB are 9th and 10th - however, current value for these two has fallen out of favor as a result of pocket divinity (making 2nd ES less of a necessity for atom printing) and forge cap increases (making 2nd SB less of a necessity for crafting)
-semi-future proofing: mage and archer as 9th and 10th - in order to maintain a balanced 3/3/3/1 split - this will allow you to have focused samples while not locking in elites/master classes until we have all information
-ultra-future proofing: leaving 9th and 10th as beginner - until we have more information on remaining 2 master classes, you simply utilize these 2 characters in jails while biding time until their release

does class change even work on jman

[zinc torrent]

The current ones, no

[proper solstice]

no those arnt what hes saying

hed need a class RESET

[orchid moss]

vman master class will make it worth having 2

[zinc torrent]

As in, change back to beginner

[orchid moss]

[bleak gazelle]

lava mentioned he might add some base class changes later

but who knows

[proper fractal]

[orchid moss]

2 vman is goated for monster prints trust

[verbal acorn]

ultra future proofing so awesome for making 2 useless characters

[orchid moss]

@proper solstice

oops i just pinged someone random

[trail ore]

got three lab rings in like 5 minutes and now i havent gotten one in like 30

[proper solstice]

its fine

[trail ore]

rng pls ;_;

[orchid moss]

nice prints lil bro

[proper solstice]

oh hell yea its about to increase

[proper solstice]

ikr||(I was changing this dudes prints rn)||

[cinder osprey]

What do you think the vman master class would be called?

[proud mural]

ieauto-review has this, clicking doesnt take me anywhere. Any idea what this means?

[orchid moss]

no idea lol

[orchid moss]

alchemy p2w tab

[thin yacht]

When to make vman? I have slot for 8th character

[orchid moss]

these i think

[proud mural]

TY thought it meant something from gem show or something else I bought.

[upbeat shuttle]

Now would be a good time. Don’t bork your account, only make one

[thin yacht]

I have 5 elite class on lab, 1 archer afk fighting 1 es main pushing

[upbeat shuttle]

General recommendation is to make VMan 7th/8th slot so you’re right on the money.

[thin yacht]

Thankiess gonna make one now

[upbeat shuttle]

Good luck out there

[proper solstice]

my 10th char only has love in the trapping skill everything else is literally nothing

[bitter echo]

does time spent afking at monuments scale rewards as well as the starting bonuses cus these feel really high numbers for just a 2.6x, my buddies in my rs clan asking me about why the numbers are so high when theyre used to gettin low single digits and i honestly dont know

[fallow aurora]

cases increase it

[peak verge]

the longer your run goes, the higher the rewards

[simple wadi]

The numbers scale with the multiplier and how far you got with the run

[bitter echo]

ok cool just wanted to be sure there were no other bonuses ty

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, I think moving jman to 8th is probably better now, given you can hit w6 without it. This makes construction be a little bit faster and the one w5 boss merit task easier

[proper solstice]

breeding is going much more smoothly now that i have burgor

[upbeat shuttle]

Great call. Thanks for the add on

[bleak gazelle]

I made a jman as 7th on alt and literally haven't done anything with it

[forest fractal]

I have all my monuments at 1000 hrs and bravery at 2000 should I keep going for bravery or should I be spreading the love?

[ornate raven]

spreading

[upbeat shuttle]

Justice afk bonuses are crazy strong. Maybe put some love into that and then spread

[peak verge]

Not really worth spreading imo.

[bleak gazelle]

i'd spread to 2k, then focus on justice. easy way to farm monument afk outside of endless summoning

[forest fractal]

thanks everyone

[simple wadi]

Justice is significantly stronger bonuses than Bravery or Wisdom

[bleak gazelle]

I don't know if the play would be going for 2k > 24k all at once though, maybe split off for 5k on the other monuments after you have enough afk%

not sure how strong 5k for wisdom is atm

[proper solstice]

👀

thisll make garbo farming a tad faster

Im 94/135 on this rn trash wise

[peak verge]

should be... interesting to say the least.

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i've got it, kinda forgot about it though. mostly just depends on how good you are at utilizing it

[simple wadi]

I screenshot every time it reveals.