lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[calm bison]

he's getting stronger 0_0 arrr

[runic girder]

1b soon

[zinc torrent]

Then you gotta get the w6 recipe

[calm bison]

omw to 1k plunders ✌️

Its a slow journey but we'll get there

[devout harbor]

The power of the eyepatch

[clever tundra]

what am I missing with bishop gambit? just supposed to survive without actually having any of my pieces make it to his end of the board?

[vernal relic]

wait.... how are you still in w5 with that damage? is just the golem?

[split meteor]

well, we'll aim for 400 hours and pray, ive already been there for a week should never have checked

[opal depot]

Think this is enough to force push world 6 so I can get some more stuff to do and be a little less deathly bored in w5?

[bleak gazelle]

did you remember to divide out any bonus kills from lab/div/companion?

cause these are my stats using IT's calc

[vernal relic]

maybe cause you'll also level up along the way

[opal depot]

This multikill bonus makes me sick. I’m lucky to get 16 kills per kill with insect god D:

[split meteor]

ahhh thank you very much ace, would be crushing to wait 2 weeks and not get, ty

[bleak gazelle]

that should be plenty to kill boss, just need to work on accuracy. ideally get to 81k for damage bonuse against moles, but at least hit 54k for 100% against them

[runic girder]

You can make like 20 slimes get there

But its a carefull balance (and the most rng dependent one)

[opal depot]

Accuracy shall be my next focus while pushing in that case. Thanks all 🙏

[bleak gazelle]

[split meteor]

oof lol

[glad isle]

no 10x huh

[cinder harness]

hey guys, quick question as to what I should focus on, I have 750 hr on bravery monument, I stopped getting hour in it to go back and unlock last few gods+lvls in lab (I have doot so I wanted to unlock them all), I am on my way to unlock the second monument and plan to atleast drop 750hrs there, after I was wondering If I should put everying in monument to get 24k hrs.

If you want my IE or ToolBox, I play via steam and as far as I know I can t share my account, only get the steam workaround on toolbox but can t share I think

[zenith hemlock]

just checking so i'm not going completly insane, the xp gain for divinity on lvl 1 should be around 1-6 /h right?

[cinder harness]

if you just started, it s exactly what it tells you in your praying form, if you go in info, you can see all ur buff to it, I think main wat to get more is from upgrading gonds and relics

[coral marten]

what divinity style should i use ? i got the first 4

[cinder harness]

People say that style 3 is the best early on, for pure god unlocking

[stable temple]

Where do you send ships to once you unlock all sovereigns?

[coral marten]

what if i got doot ? still best to go for unlocking ?

[cinder harness]

pure speed yes

[cinder harness]

if you got doot you should put your character in lab once you unlock the Goat god

[zinc torrent]

Wherever you want, can spend this time leveling their speed if it's not max for furthest island. In the event new ones are released later

[coral marten]

did that but still ty for telling me :D

[cinder harness]

u know, just to be sure

[lofty field]

where should i put my bubo for faster alchemy exp?

[barren heron]

How 2 increase bravery damage

[barren heron]

No.

[peak verge]

wurms

[languid mist]

Cranium cook with it at Citringes if you can't beat tremor wurms, tremor wurms otherwise.

[lofty field]

villgaer measure and conjurer monument upgrade

[barren heron]

Oki

[lofty field]

nah i mean the char should i put it on water droplets or the color cauldron to get more alchemy exp?

[stuck river]

cheese

[split meteor]

its really nice to max out cauldren thats what i would do real quick first

[lofty field]

yooo my goat

[stuck river]

hi

[lofty field]

no its just some char i have on water droplets are better on getting alchemy exp than color but i dunno if its work with bubo cc

[lofty field]

soon will be update

[stable temple]

How likely is it that new islands will get released though

[stuck river]

ye its gonna be 12am for me

time to totally obliterate my sleep schedule

[lofty field]

lol same

[stuck river]

not much

[lofty field]

asian time

[stuck river]

best bet is endless sailing if thats even a thing

[vernal relic]

12am gang

[lofty field]

they are the item from sailing

to upgrade boat

[barren heron]

Not the gold bars

[languid mist]

Open the map on your left to get started

[neat siren]

yes they are loot

each island has different loot

[lofty field]

yes they are

[barren heron]

???

[honest blade]

I did it! I made it to w5!!!!

[barren heron]

The black out things

[lofty field]

you need to unlock new island to get them

[bleak gazelle]

Once you hit sailing level 5, you will be able to find new items from the islands. Those items are the blacked out ones there

[stable temple]

Btw I just completed breeding what do I do with my rare eggs now? I pretty much have 100% shiny chance on everything

[vernal relic]

for level up

[split meteor]

atta boy now the real endgame begins

[bleak gazelle]

merits, shinies, level 80+ breeding

[barren heron]

What do they do

[honest blade]

For the longest time, I was wondering why everything was being a bit too grindy and screeching to a halt. Turns out, once that happens, you're probably ready for the next world.

[sage swan]

by the way do I have to afk 1 hour for all characters for this? or only 1?

[honest blade]

Only 1

[bleak gazelle]

same as gold bars, used for upgrades, also used for some bubbles

[neat siren]

you use them to upgrade your boats, each new boat uses a new type of loot for upgrades

[honest blade]

I actually misinterpreted that the first time and saw that as switch to another character, and actively do other stuff on them for 1 hour before returning to the caverns.

[neat siren]

i also thought about it that way

[split meteor]

ha, i thought "im not doing that" and left

[barren heron]

How 2 get ancient form artitacts

[neat siren]

just do 1 hour, bravery has good multis

[lofty field]

by doing more sailing

[neat siren]

the same way you get the normal ones, send your boats to the islands and pray

[lofty field]

and yoou could increase the chance from other things

[barren heron]

in the Mammalian Expression Vector?

[lofty field]

yea sum like that

[neat siren]

the fuck is that

[barren heron]

I.... don't know lol

It's the automated words thingy

So you have a good time and stats for the Mammalian Expression Vector!!!

[neat siren]

yes

[lofty field]

Damn definetly trolling with the 2022 server join

Just like me

[neat siren]

what is bro doing

[barren heron]

Oops

Sry

[neat siren]

sorry i meant what the dog doin

[stray echo]

Do lamp discount costs reset ever? I see it going up every few purchases and I don't want to screw myself over much later on

[barren heron]

I meant to send this

Heeheh bombobino crocodino ehehehehe

[vernal relic]

what lamp discount?

[stable temple]

Lamp discount costs will never reset but you've already screwed yourself by wasting wishes on the discount

[bleak gazelle]

they reset after you buy a schematic

[stray echo]

ive only used a few so its up to like 3 wishes per purchase but i dont want it getting out of control

[stable temple]

Why would you waste wishes on schematic discounts though, wishes are the true timegate

[stray echo]

yes the discount resets, i mean the wish cost to purchase it

[bleak gazelle]

yes, it resets. like i said

[vernal relic]

i think its worth if you get alot daily

[stray echo]

the discount once youre up to gems can be pretty helpful to speed it up. im at like 14 wishes a day

[vernal relic]

Schematic is 1 time buy anyways

[stray echo]

mine hasnt gone back down from 3 wishes per and ive bought schematics. do you mean unlocking more with another engineer level?

[stable temple]

Schematics are basically free though why would you waste wishes on them

[bleak gazelle]

not sure. i've used discounts on the last 3 schematics i bought and haven't gotten an engineering level in between

[sage swan]

so basically I gotta stare at the statue for an hour? 😮

[bleak gazelle]

have you gotten to the 22+ schematics?

[honest blade]

Nope, leave a guy to afk there, like you'd do with lab or divinity.

[vernal relic]

put 1 char there and change to a diff char. Come back again in 1h

[opal depot]

Roughly the best I can do in not-maxed W5 gear. RIP me for neglecting trapping I guess.

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[opal depot]

Oh yeah I completely haven’t touched starsigns yet. Ffs, not looking forward to that.

[hoary kernel]

What Is Ironman Challenge?

[bleak gazelle]

here was my BB when I killed it, had somewhere between the 54k and 81k a DK would need

though honeslty, at 50m damage, you might not even need more than the 54k or might just be able to do it now

[hoary kernel]

1 Character Only?

[vernal relic]

you are above w5 recommended damage for world boss. You can do it easily

[neat siren]

some of them are easy some of them are annoying but they have a lot of good bonuses

[opal depot]

It’s more finding them and remembering what I need to do. Short term memory loss doesn’t help.

[neat siren]

!it may i introduce you to

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[neat siren]

where it tells you where and what to do, and keeps track of who has done it

[hoary kernel]

Didnt Knew It Had This Feature

[neat siren]

it has a lot of features, this is one of them

gotta look through IT sometimes

[hoary kernel]

Yeah Havent Been Looking Through Everything

[barren heron]

How do I get ancient form

[opal depot]

My Idleon account doesn’t like to sign in anywhere other than IOS. It all says I have the same 2 level 40 characters I had a month ago 😂

[barren heron]

!it may I introduce you to

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[odd socket]

sail to the island again, lower chance to find

[hexed surge]

Now that I've unlocked the No Prayers left Behind - do people utilize that perk? it seems to me like it's really good but i've gotten conflicting info that its better to just pick out certain prayers regardless

[void shell]

As in the gaming thing right? Don't bother

[bleak gazelle]

Most of the negative effects of prayers are outweighed by their bonuses
You also can't get giant spawns iwhout the prayer active

[modest kiln]

I linked up all my guys to my bear div, took them all to lab, uploaded them all working, took them off and no lab bonus anymore, anyone help?

[stray tide]

The line widths sometimes break, you
Might need to jiggle one of them around

Especially if your really close to the characters max width

[modest kiln]

the line is all connected here

[stray tide]

Yeah but it changes spontaneously sometimes

[void shell]

Usually when changing devices

[stray tide]

Yeah reloading the instance in general makes it throw a hissy fit

[hexed surge]

Ty for the advice.

[void shell]

My gear is so.. lackluster

[stray tide]

So is mine dont worry lol

[void shell]

idk, I just got dreadlo tools on everybody, next step is upgrading traps (kinda stuck for skulls)

[stray tide]

My first character rn

[void shell]

No rings at all?

[stray tide]

Nope

[void shell]

Pugilist demise in w1 shop

[stray tide]

Most of the time i only can change what my characters are doing and dont have the time to do anything more

Like doing daily things

[void shell]

I should probably prep for getting into kattlekruk armor

[void shell]

Same, I'm kinda in maintainence mode

[stray tide]

Kruk armour? Why?

Oh nvm found it

[void shell]

I'm in the midst of getting troll on everyone

[stray tide]

Me too lol

[void shell]

Magma is free, kruk can be kinda free, so is some marbi pieces

[stray tide]

My trapping is holding my salts back tho

Gtg to calc now bybt

[void shell]

Byr

[upbeat nebula]

the wisdom monument isnt working yet right ?

[odd socket]

soon

like an hour

[sturdy shell]

Should I leave my ES farming this card for ~3 days or do I not bother until I can increase my card DR? Regular DR is at 20x and the card stamp is at level 180 :')

[blissful magnet]

Does goharut not count for leveling divinity?

[bleak gazelle]

It does, assuming you're in lab

[blissful magnet]

I have arctis active

[bleak gazelle]

you need to be physically in lab for goat to work

[blissful magnet]

Sweet thank you

[mild jewel]

someone have good spreadsheet for justice? I had one but lost damn ..

[blissful magnet]

Wasted like 96 hours 😵‍💫

[bleak gazelle]

#1277368276095336558 has some
#1347488472272998471 has a cheatsheet, too (though I wouldn't use this one until you know the basics)

[deep lintel]

Noob question but do the 3prt website tell you what you are supposed to do at your level ?

[bleak gazelle]

!review Auto review can give you areas that your account is weak in. It uses some guidelines set by scoli to show where the average account is at various points of map progression. It's probably the closest thing to what you're looking for

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[deep lintel]

Ty

[twin dock]

how do i increase the multi?

[honest blade]

What is this?

[odd socket]

schematic + measure

but it costs late gems im pretty sure

[rocky ginkgo]

Gambit cavern

[honest blade]

Ah.

[twin dock]

okay thanks!

[opal depot]

What does bunny god give? Figured goat was before but Jesus I guess I’m doing another week of div

[odd socket]

triples the 3d printer output for that character

[orchid tundra]

is it normal that my V-man has 2m kills for every mob?

[bleak gazelle]

!vman

[obtuse orbit]

Losing deathnote kills after running your Void Trial is not a bug.
You'll have maps unlocked afterwards based on the furthest any of your other characters have made it. Grats, progression is now easier, but go catch up on deathnote with other classes.
W6 note: ||This can also assist with passing the W6 locks if another character has cleared the map already, giving you a free pass.||

[orchid tundra]

oh thanks

[compact nest]

Just unlocked W5, what milestones should I have already before actively pushihng w5

[stable parrot]

Nobisect

3rd div god

[stuck river]

fuck nobisect, i got nobisect at fire spirits

[void badge]

is there a guide for the perfect trade achievement?

[stuck river]

update delayed, gg

[stuck river]

rng

@lofty field r u here

[bleak gazelle]

lul

[stuck river]

ok here we go

lava stream

not joining stream tho

@bleak gazelle which server gem drops

[neat siren]

wait what did he say about the blue tee

[opal depot]

Now you stop playing for a week while everything afk’s divinity

[compact nest]

OKay so just move them all to divinity

[vernal relic]

he said its gonna be fixed

[stuck river]

web updated

[opal depot]

Yeah, once you hit level 5/10 you wanna swap styles and go back to afk. Use small offerings till you have 50%+ on the bigger and get the first 3 gods.

[neat siren]

yo new codex icon

[stuck river]

gem shop

[opal depot]

Or do what I did and push to hole first and go half on div, half on bravery

[stuck river]

ye ill just kms

brb

[hoary lance]

why do i have less strings since the update

harp strings*

[compact nest]

OKay so if im understanding right start w first style, put all of my characters in divinity to afkl it. Once im 5/10 I swap style?

[opal depot]

Yessir

[compact nest]

ty

[stuck river]

what

[compact nest]

My divinity on characters i 1 XP an hour, is that correct?

[opal depot]

Yeah that’s right. This is the most boring grind you’ll see for a while and will have seen yet.

[compact nest]

Just hope im not skipping too much from porevious worlds

[opal depot]

Well I think this is the world you’ll be focusing on catching up most of them so it shouldn’t matter too much.

[neat siren]

god bless me

[stuck river]

i got mkpt

[neat siren]

ok i was hoping for the dr but this is also good

[stuck river]

how did my villager exp miraciously decrease

i swear i was over 500m

[compact nest]

may aswell knock divinity out earlier rather than later right

[opal depot]

Just before you push w5 tbh. Doesn’t matter too much if you take one out to catch up with cooking, getting skills up, making proper pushing builds, obol farming since they’ll all help and you’ll be doing it all eventually anywho.

I’ve never taken my bb off of cooking since I started w5 tbh.

[neat siren]

your bb should not be on cooking

[compact nest]

ahh okay, yueah my obols are definitely slacking, i have a vman thats doing okay ish on skills

[neat siren]

everyone should be on divinity

[compact nest]

even BB?

ahh ok

Whats the split for characters again?

Just unlocked the 9th one

[opal depot]

I’m 2 dk, 2 es and one of everything else for now

[cloud flame]

oh the new monument gives DR...welp..1/500k rare mob mats W7

[stuck river]

oh god

assigning mass migration to wisdom

[narrow rock]

anyone know what the update was today?

[cloud flame]

#patch-notes📝

[stuck river]

now

[hoary root]

Is there a cavern guide

[narrow rock]

ty, i normally check the patch notes on steam but they werent there yet

[cloud flame]

📌

[frank shore]

so once i got tranqi and 75 lab with doot what do i do now

[bleak shore]

do i risk it?

[nocturne patrol]

i just wake up

where are the gems drop uwu

[neat siren]

the usual places

he just did one also

[nocturne patrol]

omw

u can get 40 envelop by switching server when he do one aha

[cloud flame]

you can only get 40 per stream anyway

[nocturne patrol]

y limit

[cloud flame]

so you dont get 2k gems every stream

[stuck river]

aight im done fucking around gn

[neat siren]

blue tee recipe not there, bro lied

[graceful minnow]

that or visit doggo

[sage swan]

Do we really have to afk 24,000hrs on Bravery Statue? ⚰️

[cloud flame]

all 3 of them in fact

but you can use multiple characters and there are boosts to afk hr gains

[sage swan]

eh how to boost afk hr gain

[compact nest]

the limited shop seems stacked af rn

[cloud flame]

not there

[compact nest]

I want a hyper obol maxed out family setup or is it best to use it on single characters

[nocturne patrol]

i wait uwu

[cloud flame]

ahh yes cavern 10, all the ruppies for my justice monument

[narrow rock]

does anyone know if the whale attack on BM with vman enhancement affects spice progress?

[neat siren]

yes

[narrow rock]

reckon its possible to get 5k of a spice that i produce 8/hr before lab shop resets?

[coral rampart]

i am also focusing the spices

[neat siren]

8 an hour? no lmfao

[coral rampart]

its all active bm kills

not just whale

[quartz tide]

Does Monument bonuses I get every day stack with each other (day to day) or do they reset every day?

[nocturne patrol]

i'm at 2K5 without active bm

lazy way xd

[coral rampart]

i cant be lazy because i need to make sure i get it

[sage swan]

eh then where? 😮

[coral rampart]

cant be missing out on jewels..

[narrow rock]

so we're saying its not happening?

[coral rampart]

show your breeding tab and foraging setup

[cloud flame]

justice monument and summoning

theres also a schematic now actually

but its a cavern 11 schematic

[narrow rock]

i have 90 eggs if i should push for a new pet as well

[coral rampart]

ok wait im home in a min ill see what u could do

[neat siren]

btw that's not 8 an hour, cus the requirement for the spice goes up for each spice produced

[neat siren]

you don't have good enough pets for proper spice setups unfortunately, you may have to active bm like the entire day for the next few days

[narrow rock]

are there easy ways to boost spice production?

[cloud flame]

ic

[cloud flame]

better pets

[narrow rock]

which ones are ideal?

[cloud flame]

check #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 pins

[coral rampart]

you should unlock the next w2 pet

[narrow rock]

ok thank you

[coral rampart]

it boosts foraging power for territories below and above

also try swapping the duck out for a burger then put the mafioso above it

[narrow rock]

yeah that over doubled it

[nocturne patrol]

poggers

[neat siren]

this is a funny pack

[nocturne patrol]

299 gems mhmhmh

[neat siren]

1.5x damage for the whole account is actually kinda nice though

though i already have ram

[coral rampart]

this is my setup

youre gonna have to active bm i think

[neat siren]

you can put one more whale on tundra outbreak, better than the snake

[narrow rock]

any tips on getting the one below?

[coral rampart]

only claim the crystal spice dont claim all and dont claim other spices since theres a daily limit

[nocturne patrol]

uwu

[narrow rock]

yeah thats what i did

this is what ive got now

[coral rampart]

get rid of the duck

[nocturne patrol]

u need a lower burger

[neat siren]

that's better but opticular not good

[narrow rock]

and replace with?

[nocturne patrol]

or remove duck y

[neat siren]

if you have alchemic use it

[coral rampart]

try getting a high power snake

for me it contributes 5m/hr

[nocturne patrol]

where is the obol u buy in shop ?

dont tell me he drop on ground when u buy it xd

[neat siren]

this one

[karmic yarrow]

anything worth buying from the new gem shop

[nocturne patrol]

oh in my inventory

[neat siren]

bro

[karmic yarrow]

do i buy that blossom or draconic

[neat siren]

please read what it says before you use it

[frank shore]

finally here comes shiny pets

[karmic yarrow]

its in ur inv

u gotta go to world

[neat siren]

shiny pets?

what does orange have to do with shiny pets

[nocturne patrol]

i have it

[neat siren]

yeah read what it says

[nocturne patrol]

need w2

[neat siren]

oh right i forgot that was the thing

[frank shore]

u had me worried

so do i just need my pets to fuck to get shiny pets?

[neat siren]

uhhhhhhhhhh

[karmic yarrow]

is dragonic cauldron good

[neat siren]

no not exactly

[neat siren]

yes very

honestly dragonic and pendant are both very good

[glad isle]

giv gem and i buy 🙂

[nocturne patrol]

uwu

[glad isle]

use it

[nocturne patrol]

y gonna take pendant and cauldron

cc gonna go brrrrrrrr

[glad isle]

slide me 379 gems

u got extra

[narrow rock]

i got the duck to 28k

[nocturne patrol]

i get multikill obol sad

[glad isle]

i don't see any gem 😭

[karmic yarrow]

i got 12% damage bad

[neat siren]

tell me about it

[nocturne patrol]

rip

someone get a dr one or ? aha

[glad isle]

free fragments 🤑🤑🤑

[neat siren]

nah i'm keeping this

dude it's 1 frag

[glad isle]

dice obols better

[nocturne patrol]

good for wat class ?

[glad isle]

magma 🤑🤑🤑

[narrow rock]

where is best for active bm, without having pushed through w6, would it be cans?

[nocturne patrol]

beautiful

[wicked cobalt]

damn wtf definitely not overwhelmed after not having played for like a year and coming back to 1000s of hours of afk lab/divinity time XD

[glad isle]

shiny

buy more when

[nocturne patrol]

when he put another aha

[neat siren]

yes good for any active pusher

bm lmfao actually

[glad isle]

u sure ?

[nocturne patrol]

oh y 20% respawn

i'm poor now, send me donation uwu

[karmic yarrow]

watws ur lab / div level

[glad isle]

the other buff is nice tho

[glad isle]

gimme gem u enjoy enough

[neat siren]

damage multi good for mk and respawn is respawn

[karmic yarrow]

companion reset

[nocturne patrol]

oh get top 50% idk how

[neat siren]

not that hard

[karmic yarrow]

reply

[wicked cobalt]

sry was checking, lab between 100-130 and div between 100-120

[karmic yarrow]

oh thats not too high

[wicked cobalt]

tbf i wasnt really optimizing anything xp wise just put em in, came back and got like 40 lvls

[undone field]

youd be better off with scarf

[karmic yarrow]

es

[frank shore]

oh boy lvl 200 tent coming in !

[neat siren]

nice!

[nocturne patrol]

gz

[neat siren]

welcome to mid game

[frank shore]

now what

[nocturne patrol]

U have worm unlock ?

[frank shore]

where

[split meteor]

very last map of w5

[neat siren]

here

[split meteor]

lol

[neat siren]

time to push with your bubo

it's ok with 200 tenti things will go very very quickly

[nocturne patrol]

here

[frank shore]

got tons of candies

[neat siren]

no need to candy

[nocturne patrol]

oh u dont see my mouse xd

[neat siren]

start getting that cc going already

[frank shore]

"here"

[neat siren]

do notice that the selected node is highlighted

[frank shore]

xd

wait my bubo has no respawn helper

this is gonna take forever

[narrow rock]

no raise the dead?

[neat siren]

you need to max raise the dead

[narrow rock]

is there anything in alchemy to boost mob respawn?

[neat siren]

no

[narrow rock]

damn

[neat siren]

then what's the problem

[frank shore]

idk there was like a 20 second downtime for some reason

[neat siren]

not all maps will be good for tenti btw

that's why you push to wurms, the mob density there more than makes up for the chance of not getting the cd reset

[split meteor]

Anyway once you get here set up your attack bar like this and you're good to go, most people go auspicious aura before flatulent spirit but I only like that only single platform maps

[frank shore]

hmm

[neat siren]

oh also, craft the stingers and use them from now on

[neat siren]

yes, the fisticuffs

soon/eventually most of your damage will be coming from aura, and because of how aura works by placing it directly below your character using fisticuffs will bring you closer to the enemies for more optimal placement

[solar seal]

aura should be before fart

[split meteor]

thats what i said

lol

[solar seal]

my b, i commited the cardinal idleon sin of not reading your message

i just saw image and commented, forgive me father for i have sinned

[split meteor]

ik lol all good xD

[hollow rain]

Should I buy rupie slugs or equinox penguins?

[solar seal]

yes

[hollow rain]

I can't buy all 😭

[split meteor]

btw i found the minimum damage requirement for tremur worms to be around 16b otherwise your poison wont 1 hit the tremur worms

[frank shore]

hmm

[split meteor]

youll be stuck at citringes for a bit

[frank shore]

was gonna farm w6 for exp

[split meteor]

unless do you have megacrit and 200% crit chance?

o glhf

[narrow rock]

whats best for active BM before w6?

[split meteor]

if im not mistaken bm has one of the best attack bars for many platform mobs

it would still be whatever has very high density mobs so like soda cans citringes etc

[narrow rock]

so cans/ice pops?

i dont think theres enough on the screen for citringes

[solar seal]

samurai > wurms > citringes

[narrow rock]

thank you

[cloud flame]

before w6
last w6 mob

[solar seal]

at least they know when they done w/ w5 😉

[narrow rock]

ill get there eventually, the push will start after lab/div jail

[barren sandal]

anyone used lanterns for the study bonus for wisdom yet?

[barren sandal]

that's presumably worth getting at least lvl 1 just because less tiles to match good

[cloud flame]

everythings worth getting to at least lvl 1 tbf

[barren sandal]

the devious grotto study:

[cloud flame]

that one last :p

[hearty maple]

Sooo i afkd at the iq statue for over an hour and it still says i should check the lanterns in gem shop… what am i missing?

[split meteor]

wisdom? is it out now?

lava having a livestream rn

[hearty maple]

Ah… yes its out and i was missing that it isnt yet out on ios as always…

Gonna afk for another hour i guess

[split meteor]

Q_Q still not far enough in caverns

[wheat berry]

So I did a Justice run and it added to my existing monument bonuses, is that the case for bravery too? Or only Justice? I remember Bravery replacing the bonuses?

Or maybe I'm just plain tripping...?

[solar seal]

bravery never replaced bonuses - it simply adds to total so long as you run early

[wheat berry]

What do you mean "run early"

[solar seal]

you have to run away to keep bonuses

if you attempt a fight and lose, you lose all bonuses you picked up that run

[wheat berry]

Oh that explains it then got it I was just tripping

This also makes much more sense on how people got those massive bonuses on the monuments

[terse remnant]

lmao i did the same for the first week i had bravery

[wheat berry]

So I guess the best way now is to run bravery every 4 days and justice every 14 or whatever

[solar seal]

bravery 4 days
justice 18 days - so loong as you have the study- yes

[split meteor]

super curious to see if anyone had insane hours preloaded on wisdom

[humble cloak]

did villager xp get nerfed? i have 300m less than earlier today

[wheat berry]

Ty

[terse verge]

Highest i’ve seen is 111k

[split meteor]

rofl gg already done O_O

[sturdy shell]

Why 4 days on bravery again? What's the multi it gets?

[bleak gazelle]

4 days only with the schematic from engi 22

[solar seal]

4 days since new engi schematic lets multi scale linearly until 4 days instead of 2 for monuments.
__ days * 1.2 = multi you want - i.e. 4.8x in this case

[sturdy shell]

ohhh I see

Without the schematic I'm guessing it's do monuments as soon as possible

[solar seal]

are you 10000000% sure you lost xp? or simply confused since the notation changed and lava add an M

[weary hinge]

will depend on what you want to farm but having multiplier is good

[bleak gazelle]

samurai may also not be loading properly, so cloudsave/enter gemshop

[humble cloak]

ty

unfortunately it didnt work

oh well

[pastel kayak]

Good thing I can play on laptop cause update not out on iPad yet

[tribal fossil]

Can someone help me understand this bonus? Does it count for historical jars made or only the jars in the cavern that were made but haven't been broken?

[solar seal]

it counts historical. you can use !review (beta branch) to see your total jars broken of each kind

[odd socket]

bleh is this even worth a captain slot

i already have 2 enders and all artifacts

[solar seal]

if you've finished sovereign - you might as well ditch your worst captain and just slot it in for now until you ahve full 20 ender - then phase out worst enders one by one

its really just to futureproof for w7+ in case we get t5 artifacts

[odd socket]

i guess

[eager bridge]

so this claims that sprouts can evolve up to 5 times, but when checking the logbook nothing seems to have gone past 4. and I have let them stay for half the day and still see nothing evolving to a 5th form. any idea why?

[neat siren]

damn bruh i forgot to unfilter wurm slices

[kind peak]

Is death bringer pack worth it?

[odd socket]

depending on your other stats, they're probably extremely rare, i think the first one is 20x rarer, 6th 250x etc

you can calculate it with this sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259

[eager bridge]

ah so each evolution gets tougher? I normally quite easily get to 4th overnight, and I didn't collect and let it continue for half a day and no luck. but didn't know there was a sheet so I will check that out, thank ya!

[solar seal]

Should I be saving my plants to get more evolution tiers unlocked for the log book?
For T1-T5 evolutions, you will get them naturally and easily over time as you progress through gaming. Do not save your sprouts, just harvest them all.
For T6, you will get them all naturally by time you reach around ~1B/T red bits. Do not save your sprouts, just harvest them all.
For T7, you can get them all once you have instant gaming (very late stage), requires deep farming (W6 skill). Setup board to have 1 or 2 of the plant you want the t7 for with the rest as chemplants. Use all the chemplants and they hit t7. If they don't, reset and restart.
For T8, requires instant gaming, a lot of setup with chem plants (anywhere from 10-20 hrs worth of chaining), and pray to the RNG gods.
TL:DR - don't go chasing waterfalls evos

[odd socket]

5th is the first big jump

[eager bridge]

oh my

[split meteor]

if i remember right its (the robe?) is classed as a b tier purchase, it has a decent AFK bonus for a premium item

[eager bridge]

tldr; don't let sprouts sit around. got it lol

[split meteor]

i would definitely pick up the hood, 25% more bones reducing a ton of active gameplay? i would definitely want that

[orchid moss]

It’s kinda good

I’d rate it a probably

[severe cloak]

aye new monument that i dont have time to afk at show me the rewards sweaty ppl

[weary hinge]

all the choices?

[severe cloak]

I would guess it has wood cutting eff maybe monument afk bonsues and the same stuff as other ones

[weary hinge]

ill get it and post as a spoiler

[severe cloak]

alright

[simple wadi]

"i dont have time to afk at"
Meanwhile me:

[severe cloak]

Whoa amazing

[split meteor]

mhmm i was surprised with the tier list but i guess if they already have 300% afk gain rate than another 60% wouldnt be big, i like the robe myself

[weary hinge]

these are posted on endgame,

[severe cloak]

whoa not bad

[odd socket]

mon afk gain? money? or monster

oh monument

[severe cloak]

ye monument

[weary hinge]

monument

so much monument bonuses for this update even the schematic is monu afk

[odd socket]

i expected bigger requirements for wisdom since you could already get pretty high with summoning and the previous two monuments but its nice they're the same

[weary hinge]

the brainpower requirement is huge for the memory game

[odd socket]

cause lava removed everyone's IQ points

from the measure

[split meteor]

wisdom monument is a game of memory?

[frosty kraken]

what do i spend cosmo point on?

[weary hinge]

yes match 2 type

[weary hinge]

check the guides for the priority, it may vary on progression

[simple wadi]

I look forward to my T8 bush in 9 years

[frosty kraken]

where is the guide?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700
or check the 📌

[nocturne patrol]

poggers

[ornate raven]

i can't find a place where all the lamp wish multipliers are

[frosty kraken]

i wish i had your divinty points

is the gem shop bugged?

[dull rose]

How do I get more damage quicker

[frosty kraken]

nvm i had to update the game

[split meteor]

makes me sad i never knew caverns was really a thing until joining the discord, was around the 6th map of world 6 before starting it

i knew it was a thing but didnt really invest time in it

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[frosty kraken]

I feel like Im progressing so slowly. not sure if theres anything I can be doing that can optimize my progression

[split meteor]

i notice idleon comes in spurts itll seem like a week youre not making any progress and then a day youll achieve several goals

[nocturne patrol]

i give this to vman ?

[dire mirage]

iOS dropping the ball on patch as usual 💀

[frosty kraken]

sorry how does the pocket divinity work? can it be changed any time?

[frank shore]

bruh i just failed all 4 stones -.-

[nocturne patrol]

rip

[orchid moss]

it be like that

[nocturne patrol]

keep it for boot that up skill

[split meteor]

playstore users dnot dare cloudsave rn wont be allowed back on for 2 hours

[bleak gazelle]

I forgot, there were two collectibles which were giving the opposite bonuses, that got fixed, so it might be related to that

[nocturne patrol]

u need void boot for lustre

[humble cloak]

Ohhhh that makes sense

[frank shore]

how hard is nightmare chizoar

[humble cloak]

Ty very much

[split meteor]

super easy, barely an inconvenience

[frank shore]

oh... yeah 1 shot lol

need the scarf tho

bubos dmg now

[modest kiln]

can I choose 3 of the same bucket to fill up faster? or just 1 resource per buckt?

[weary hinge]

can have multiple on one type

[solar seal]

user's choice - the fill rate you see is per bucket so doing all 3 of same will give it 3x as fast

[orchid moss]

wow i should have done endless summoning earlier

first few are kinda free

[barren sandal]

pondering if I should get the last 500 hours for 10k bravery or just focus wisdom on all...

[frosty kraken]

do I wait to conjure pocket divinity?

[barren sandal]

no
why would you

you only need 5 points to get both levels in it

[frosty kraken]

like does it lock to a god permanently?

ty

[simple wadi]

You can switch it to whatever you want whenever you want.

[frosty kraken]

thank god

[pastel kayak]

Is that 5b kills for mushrooms

[frank shore]

no that's death note

[frosty kraken]

do you also get the blessings from the gods or no?

[pastel kayak]

I know that

[orchid moss]

is villager exp from endless summoning additive or multiplicative

[coarse parrot]

Should I buy the Rupie slug while it’s in the limited specials?

[nocturne patrol]

Someone know if i need a lvl on a upgrade to start getting yellow essence ? i have all green upgrade no ?

[cloud flame]

all except 1

[weary hinge]

worth for me but still thinking if imma buy all

[cloud flame]

yknow, the one with the yellow essence icon..

[orchid moss]

😹

[nocturne patrol]

true i'm blind

[cloud flame]

happens

[orchid moss]

wtf the codex is fancy now

[cloud flame]

its been so for like 3 weeks now, yea

[coarse parrot]

It’s earned it

[split meteor]

so is the next master class in a few days O_O i wanted to get my deathbringer to at least w4

[orchid moss]

in a few days?

[cloud flame]

in like a month

[coarse parrot]

Next master class is in 30 days, no?

[orchid moss]

yea

[split meteor]

oh ok cool

[orchid moss]

probably more because goat update schedule

[cloud flame]

eh?

[coarse parrot]

Has bone collection become properly AFK yet?

[orchid moss]

should come out with master class

allegedly

[split meteor]

lava is frisky with updates i dont get how he does it

you see other mmorpgs with like 44 developers take months on months for updates

[simple wadi]

Helps that this is a pixel art game

[split meteor]

oh thats a very good point

[orchid moss]

written in stencyl

[coarse parrot]

A pretty small one to boot, for an MMO

[simple wadi]

Pixel art takes a lot less time to program and design than voxel

[candid oracle]

anything important to know BEFORE i start first wisdom monument? no general strategy - just maybe somthing which would be a big mistake?

[simple wadi]

It's a matching game. Have good memory. Good luck.

[grim trail]

what does select a collective at the jar does?

[coarse parrot]

Crap

[candid oracle]

thanks

[simple wadi]

Rephrase this. I don't understand.

[orchid moss]

does he mean the study

[grim trail]

i mean this here. does selecting does anything?

[simple wadi]

If you mean from the study bonus, selecting a collectable will give you a higher chance for that collectable to be enchanted from the enchanting jar. Enchanting doubles the bonus from that collectable.

[coarse parrot]

Enchanting is done from the 5th jar

[grim trail]

got ya thanks

[stray tide]

Check out the wiki i got like one table of info in there rn lmao

[slender schooner]

how do you unlock the first divinity

[candid oracle]

will do .. thought the wiki is always silenced for weeks upon a new feature .. thats why i didnt check

[orchid moss]

im the goat

[quartz tide]

What are the sources of monument % afk gain?

[nocturne patrol]

need more damage bruh

[azure hedge]

how often does that bonus gold ball thing come around? is it work saving balls for?

[orchid moss]

usually people save

[azure hedge]

i didnt know it was a thing and was kinda sad lmao

how often tho?

[sonic tartan]

i'm kinda stuck in gaming idk if i'm doing something wrong or just wait

[azure hedge]

you gotta grind that lv 999 out

[sonic tartan]

why? how?

[azure hedge]

hard work and wait for the update

idk, i dont have superbits unlocked even so

[edgy tusk]

When should I go for level 24?

[unique sigil]

Did villager xp get nerfed some as a result of this patch? I'm getting about half of what I had previously.

[barren sandal]

the autoreviewer has a section for snail now you can use that

[azure hedge]

something about statues i think? idk

dragon warrior i think w/e that is

[barren sandal]

that was last update

[bleak gazelle]

each monument and endless summoning

[azure hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-dk-smash-bros-ssb-taunt-gif-14863812

[unique sigil]

I had about 35M/hr exp for the explorer pre-update, now it's 18M/hr

[bleak gazelle]

there was a bug with two collectibles which were giving the opposite bonus that got fixed, could be that

or if yuo have samurai pet and notice -25 opals, may jsut need to cloud save or enter gemshop

[azure hedge]

what is prowess

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle is that 5b kills on green mushrooms? Hard for me to see

[stray snow]

breh

yeah it is

5.7b

[frosty kraken]

is shrine world tour the same effect as the sailing artifact effect?

[covert meteor]

I've finally gotten lvl 60 div on all my characters(they are all stuck in lab prison), should I switch to the lvl 60 divinity gain stance, or still stick on mantra for 1 exp to all characters till lvl 80 div?

[cloud flame]

world tour lets you lvl them from the entire world even if theyre placed in town and makes, the artifact makes the effect of it global

[bold bane]

Should i change my prints and what to?

[edgy tusk]

@barren sandal can it also tell me if I'm ready to try for the final evolutions for the plants? I've been trying for about a week but nothing. Though I feel like I have decent speed and decent evolve chance

[frosty kraken]

ty

[barren sandal]

no it’s just the snail for now
There is a spreadsheet for that tho I’m not at my computer rn to grab it sorry

[bleak gazelle]

Mantra would only beat out Zen exp if you have 9 or 10 characters on it...and you wouldn't get any points

[solar seal]

you def should swap them to zen/mindful while you can. you will get less xp, but you will start getting loads of points which will be usefull for getting god ranks

[solar seal]

gdi ace. how do you manage to snipe me on an older question

[bold bane]

Should i change my prints and what to?

[covert meteor]

cause Kate Lockwell always wins

thank you though 🙂

[barren sandal]

While god ranks are on topic I presume it’s not worth pushing god rank 5 over basically anything else

[bleak gazelle]

not while you have monuments to afk

[orchid moss]

god rank 5

[bleak gazelle]

or statues to afk

[fallow panther]

dogeater43 in the building😎

[solar seal]

the difference is "effect of shrine" versus "where i can level up shrine" - to put it simply. check the 📌 for an infographic if you are still confused

[orchid moss]

what lvl should i get villager statue to

[barren sandal]

or gmush to afk…
or-

[bleak gazelle]

those are canddyable

[barren sandal]

Yes
I was able to get it to around 300% bonus without much fuss but you could go higher if you put more time in

[barren sandal]

But the candy has other uses too…

[solar seal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259 don't go for t8 unless you are at instant gaming and care significantly about the skill. you can finish/do everything w/o it

[fallow panther]

i hate this

[orchid moss]

wrong one oops

[fallow panther]

wheres the real codex

💔

[edgy tusk]

@solar seal they spawn as quick as I pick them 😅

[solar seal]

i'd say 2 things.
a. when you do your 2100 lab grind, you should definitely utilize best point stance to get as high of god rank as you can
b. when you go for ~190 div for +18 arctis and then ~240 div for +19 arctis, you'd continue and try for highest again
what god rank you end up as is entirely RNG due to their immense costs so there's no easy "stop here" point in terms of specific rank number

[barren sandal]

oh that grind took me less than a week
I was away for a con so I did it then and was able to finagle everyone getting bonus exp from gilded tubes

[solar seal]

then its entirely up to you if you stop at t7 or go for t8. its an entire days worth of chem training to even get 1 though - so its quite a grind that not everyone will find worth doing since you will be stuck in w5 town

[edgy tusk]

@solar seal i can do it while grinding bones can't i? Also, isn't there a tome thing for plants discovered? I'm trying to hit top 1% so I'm looking for everything I can to push it further 😅

[simple wadi]

Nope

Instant gaming doesn't work outside of W5 town

[fallow panther]

i accidentally skipped past the 100% on arctis and im back to 25

massive waste of points?

[edgy tusk]

@simple wadi I don't remember getting anything called instant gaming. Is it just faster in town or was that a buff I picked up somewhere?

[solar seal]

don't confuse 5 sec gaming w/ instant gaming - instnat can only happen in w5 town

[humble compass]

is the deathblossom pendant worth it? OR there is a better pendant like the divine scarf?

[barren sandal]

It’s good for vman runs but not required

[edgy tusk]

I mean, I'm in the town atm and it seems pretty instant. I do recall it being slower while farming bones and just never knew why

[solar seal]

trust us. its not the same

[humble compass]

just for the speedruns, nothing else?

[orchid moss]

bro you can buy 60 opals from gem shop now???

[solar seal]

let me find a video for you

[orchid moss]

[solar seal]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/549713440076333058

[orchid moss]

yea i saw that he increased the cap but 60 is crazy

[barren sandal]

I mean
More damage and mob respawn is more of 2 very nice stats
But I wouldn’t call it a super high priority
It’s good but only contextually

[stray snow]

back to motherlode grind

[solar seal]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message this post is instant gaming. you will have respawns before you finish picking current set

[humble compass]

so if I have the blue scarf, I do not really need to get that one?

[solar seal]

my guess is that you still only have 5 sec gaming even inside w5 town and think you have instant already

[edgy tusk]

That's what mine looks like in town XD guess I'll spend some time there

[humble compass]

What about the dragonic cauldrons? are THEY worth it?

[barren sandal]

the blue scarf is whatever
You want to upgrade it to the green one and eventually red

[simple wadi]

Hot damn, can't wait to not buy 40 more opals, lol.

[orchid moss]

😹

[barren sandal]

Absolutely
They’ve also only showed up in the shop 4 times lol

[solar drift]

I wouldn’t buy it..

[barren sandal]

this being the fourth

[solar seal]

there is a significant difference b/w instant and 5 sec (non-w5 town) - if you can't tell the difference, i am concerned

[solar drift]

Regretting buying the last 12 to get 20/20 so it looks nice

then he straight up increased it to 60 so I wasted lots of gems

[humble compass]

oh dang, ok then 😄

[orchid moss]

something doesnt seem right here

[edgy tusk]

@solar seal i knew it was instant, I just didn't know it stopped outside of w5. I thought they just grew back so quick because the game was lagging behind and trying to catch up with plant spawns so they just kept happening 😅

[barren sandal]

I got the first one last time it showed up and yeah it’s been a big help
More liquid speed is nice ofc but it also means less cranium cooking for mass upgrades like atoms

[solar seal]

naw its 2 different things. w5 town has a different refresh timer for skills which is why/how you can get instant gaming. everywhere else, it'll only cycle every 5 seconds

[humble compass]

I am not that far yet, so idk what cranium cooking nor have the atom collider

[barren sandal]

If the next update is indeed the master class a month from now this FOMO shop should last a long time
Which is nice there’s a lotta good stuff in it

[barren sandal]

CC is for huge alchemy progress

[edgy tusk]

@solar seal I do appreciate knowing that. How many spots do u keep open for chemical plants? I think I have 14 plants I'm growing and 6 spots for chemicals to grow

[barren sandal]

good for everything there except sigils

[fallow panther]

im juiced out of my mind

[solar seal]

when i went for my t7 - i reserved 2-3 for specified plant with rest chems. i don't bother w/ t8 - but from advice i know xayayah gives out - you essentially will need to play manual gaming while in w5 town since you want to create a 'forest' of the target and just use chems as you get them

[humble compass]

oh ok, but I still don't know what that is lol

[stray tide]

Yeah it might be, i only just started interacting with the wiki

[stray snow]

wait till u get a vman speedrun sample

[zinc torrent]

Cranium cooking bubo skill

[humble compass]

ahhhhhh that xD

I thought it was some kind of cooking skill related food or seomthing

[orchid moss]

should i afk wisdom or stay on justice?

[edgy tusk]

I have the right side for my forest 😅 hopefully I can make some progress. Knowing to do it in town should help a ton. Really appreciate it

[zinc torrent]

I got mine split between the two rn

[orchid moss]

im also farming vilalger statues tho

[stray tide]

We havnt really felt out the buffs yet, i plan to write them on the wiki soon

I have most of them from a lava ss but missing three

[spark meteor]

I get no villager exp, where can I get more?

[simple wadi]

You assign Opals to villagers to give them exp rate.

[orchid moss]

doesnt it teach you how to do it

when you start hole

[stray tide]

Opals, measure, conjuror, gem shop

[orchid moss]

monuments

[stray tide]

Insight might have a lot more

[orchid moss]

there's a spreadsheet for all sources of vilalger exp in the guide

in pins

[umbral badge]

is divine scarf or deathblossom pendant better?

[spark meteor]

No I get exp, just not a lot

[stray tide]

Scarf i think

[solar seal]

for nearly 95%+ of situations, scarf is

[orchid moss]

pendant better for speedruns

[spark meteor]

Oh thanks

[simple wadi]

Get more opals then.

[orchid moss]

is it even worth to crystal farm at lanterns

[stray tide]

About one cavern a week is pretty normal when your in the second layer

[orchid moss]

i feel like my rates are poo

[spark meteor]

Idk how I’ve exhausted the mining, catching, den and mushrooms. They take too long to get the next one

[stray tide]

My philosophy is that if it takes under a week than its fine to do

[simple wadi]

Way to make me feel like a newb. Cavern 15 will take me three weeks 😔

[stray tide]

Any more than that needs backtracking

[bleak gazelle]

wdym, it's been like that for months

[fallow panther]

lies

[stray tide]

I think it got updated last vault update

[solar seal]

the w6 farm crystal farm spot is minichiefs due to the map layout. if you aren't there yet - my 2c is just use whichever map you are furthest on (so long as it isn't an absolute terrible layout) - i.e. skydoggy okay, leeks are okay too

[zinc torrent]

Do you have choco chip, and ruby crystal spawn cards? The other 2 chips that boost cards aren't needed, but nice to have

[orchid moss]

yea ofc

[orchid moss]

ic tyty

[final pond]

Didn't the opal gem shop upgrade cost used to scale? If so does anyone know if we're getting a refund on gems lost because of that?

[solid acorn]

Yall im stuck between buying the sprinkler, deathblossom pendant, or rupie slug. Any suggestions on which is better and why?

[stray snow]

choco milk

[simple wadi]

A singular sprinkler is a decent investment, but not more than that. I don't suggest the deathblossom pendant since the divine scarf is close enough. Rupie slug should be pretty good for a while since it'll scale with the rest of the rupie bonuses.

[bleak gazelle]

deathbloom will get you to w6 faster but basically just becomes slab after that once you get divine scarf recipe
one golden sprinkler is nice, but with enough w6 farming progress eventually doesn't matter
rupie slugs seem pretty nice, exp and then more rupies

[wheat berry]

If I level this past 100% chance do I gt an extra envelope on top of my extra

Neat, more envelopes here I come!

[solid acorn]

i appreciate yall.

[simple wadi]

=3

[wheat berry]

Thanks Mirai!

[simple wadi]

Pfft and Bapphic said yesterday all I ever do is troll people without making any useful posts.

[bleak gazelle]

where's your 1% for 4x?

[stray snow]

how do u get green bits in gaming?

[bleak gazelle]

get 1QQ worth of white bits

[simple wadi]

I'm busy getting a T8 bush

[bleak gazelle]

Lul, fat chance. Consider if the opportunity cost of getting earlier access to those opals

Feel free to email lava though

[simple wadi]

Only refund I've ever seen Lava give was when he reduced the cost of that 3D printer gemshop upgrade.

[stray snow]

cause im at lvl 40 div for everyone (46 for my pusher to get multi) should i stay 1vit 9 mantra for max exp or just put everyone on tranqi?

[sand summit]

guys nowadays the roster is 3 archers / 3 war / 3 mages / 1 vman? heard some ppl say keep begginer class for future master class...but im not sure

[barren sandal]

Tranqi so you can do other stuff

[stray snow]

its ur game so its up to u. ive done 3-3-3-1 cause why not

[simple wadi]

Play however you want. I have two BMs and do not give a f- what people think of me.

[narrow rock]

reckon its worth leaving BM active overnight to get spice gains so i can actually get the lab jewel?

[sand summit]

im a begginer. my game knowledge is equal to my curtains

hence i ask lol

[stray snow]

its ur game. just do what ever u feel like. if u want to future proof and save the last one or two as a beginner sure. do it. otherwise just do what ever feels right

[simple wadi]

*Elibae does Jeebs' mom
"You told me to do what ever feels right!"

[azure hedge]

should i use the gaming 8 hour boost with plants unharvested?

[simple wadi]

It doesn't matter. In the long run this choice has 0 consequence.

[azure hedge]

but like for early stuff

[simple wadi]

Your choice paralysis is daunting, I'm sure.

Just use it.

[azure hedge]

i mean i just dunno if it actually does anything to upgrade the plants

[simple wadi]

It causes 8 hours to pass.

You already said it.

[narrow rock]

it should mutate things if they arent fully evolved

[simple wadi]

It's the equivalent of you going to sleep and waking up.

[azure hedge]

yeah i have zero clue how anything works in gaming yet

the sprinkler scares me

[simple wadi]

Truly terrifying. Right up there with John Wick after you killed his dog.

[azure hedge]

and what does divinity even do? i have 4 of these gods unlocked and i still dont get it

[simple wadi]

Read the pinned messages for guides on W5

[azure hedge]

whats a pinned message?

where do i find that

[simple wadi]

Are you on your phone or PC?

[azure hedge]

pc

[narrow rock]

does "all stats" include mob respawn?

[orchid moss]

[narrow rock]

[orchid moss]

all stats is more like

all base stats

[languid mist]

I was actually gonna ask about the deathbloom pendant and then I immediately saw this Does Vman not benefit from the pendant for speedruns?

[orchid moss]

does but not really that necessary

[narrow rock]

does that count multikill too?

[orchid moss]

[simple wadi]

All stats means Str, Agi, Wis, and Luk.

[orchid moss]

^

[narrow rock]

😦

[orchid moss]

arent u in w5

[narrow rock]

in terms of progression like late w4 in terms of portals early-mid w6

[bleak gazelle]

sure, it does. could be potentially useful to push for another mk tier or two, but then you'd swap to divine for sampling most likely

could be wrong, i don't care to minmax that much and speedruns are stressful enough as is for me

[opaque void]

Should I clean the bell, when I already got 6 improvement methods?

[languid mist]

I feel ya. Trying to hit these portal high scores for more points has me stressing out as well

[fallow panther]

numbers are getting big fast

[solar seal]

6 is max for now, so you gucci

[fallow panther]

is it better to kill mobs afk or actively

[stray snow]

active

u upgrading stamps and alch?

[fallow panther]

yeah i did all my stamps

and am waiting on liquid for more alch upgrades

[fiery cape]

I love iOS so much. I love it when I’m accidentally locked out of progress for a whole day because I didn’t check Steam first for new stuff

[orchid moss]

mobile users suffering as usual

[fallow panther]

i remember i pushed to clammies on steam and on my mobile account was still on the biggole worms

i just deleted it off my phone in fear that the ios data will sync with the steam

[fiery cape]

What even happened that needs committee approval from John Apple before I can play again

[fallow panther]

it didnt i was safe and now am mobile free

!review

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[fallow panther]

wrong thing

whats the good website

[bleak gazelle]

they're all good

[fallow panther]

nah cause that ones confusing

[stray tide]

yo can someone tell me what this schematic says now? im editing the wiki

and i havnt actually reached that cavern yet lol

[fallow panther]

is this ok

im pretty sure it was way lower before

[languid mist]

I usually keep upgrading all my stamps until I run out of carry capacity for the materials

[fallow panther]

i did that but instead i ran out of materials

[languid mist]

time to print

[stray tide]

i assume the cost is the same but if anyone can prove that

[fallow panther]

anything i can do to improve this

or do i really just have to wait

💔

[languid mist]

Use your Squires' Refinery throttle ability. Once you unlock Omniphau refinery gets slightly faster with the ocasional refinery procs.

Also upgrade your refinery speed sources, etc..

[fallow panther]

what are refinery speed sources

[terse remnant]

off the top of my head is lab, family bonus, stamp

[orchid moss]

construction mastery is probably most consistent source

[languid mist]

Salt lick's one of them. There are several and I think there is some sort of website around that aggregates all bonuses for all sources but I don't remember the link

[fallow panther]

lab is out of question caus everybody is at divinity rn

[terse remnant]

get the goat/bear guy

[fallow panther]

my explosive salts are in a deficit cause i salt locked myself

i thought i had to rank them up together

if my reds are rank five then so should my oranges and blues

but appearantly thats terrible

[languid mist]

yeah

[fallow panther]

and now im fucked for a few weeks

[languid mist]

once you get omni you'll have an easier time getting your ranks back in order

[fallow panther]

which one is he

[stray snow]

print of active es for some fast mats

[languid mist]

I've been following this for now

[orchid moss]

bro that shit is like a billion orange salt

[languid mist]

the elephant

[fallow panther]

no like number wise

im on the second guy

arctis

[languid mist]

39.1M, to be exact.

[stray snow]

5th

[languid mist]

unless that value is outdated in the wiki

[orchid moss]

nah that sounds right

[fallow panther]

ts is gonna take so long bruh

[stray snow]

honestly. just turn ur red salts to 0% and let it lvl up a bunch before u go back to ur other salts

[fallow panther]

i guess it will git easier once everyone is level 5

[orchid moss]

or just like follow the image

[hearty glacier]

do i need to have shrine world tour on if i alr have the artifact

[orchid moss]

its not that deep

[orchid moss]

yes

[stray snow]

god. the hole is so boring rn

[fallow panther]

yeah but its still gonna take long as freak

[orchid moss]

yes that is what happens when you neglect everything

and rush worlds

[fallow panther]

i was surviving off of searching the wiki when a quest got too hard

[stray snow]

yeah but the sooner u start the sooner u can fix it

[fallow panther]

i was and still am completely lost

[frank shore]

i've afked pretty hard the last 2~ weeks or so, lab finally almost complete lol

[fallow panther]

im pretty sure my guild is dead

we got 30k unspent gp

[orchid moss]

maybe your bonuses are maxed

[fallow panther]

no not nearly

[terse remnant]

my guild has 800k

maybe i should find a new one

[fallow panther]

the only maxed talent is the drop rate one

[orchid moss]

prolly should unless your current guild has maxed relevant bonuses

as long as you're active there's quite a few guilds that will take you in #1073780959087964210

[fallen herald]

How does divinity work

[fossil peak]

is there anywhere on idleon toolbox that shows all of the different things improving damage

[stray snow]

check pins

[fallen herald]

Thank you kind sir

[stray snow]

but basically. sit at altar. get div points and exp, new div lvls give new styles. dif styles changes xp and div points per hr. do low % of div points to summon god until u get 100% on right side. continue until goat god (5th) than u can do lab and div at same time

[fallen herald]

When it says level it's talking about the skill level right

[fallen herald]

What if I have doot

[bleak gazelle]

too many to list, i'm pretty sure literally everything in the game gives some amount of damage

[pastel kayak]

Update is out on apple now

[stray snow]

doesnt matter till ur characters are lvl 2

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[stray snow]

still unlock the gods tho for their bonuses

[fallen herald]

Thank you kind people

I'm gonna leave everyone on the shrine

[edgy tusk]

@solar seal just got my first t8, thanks again!

[stray snow]

ace

do i do motherlode till i dont have the eff for it?

[fossil peak]

thank you, but like so toolbox has nothing that shows all of those and their individual percent increases all in one place?

[bleak gazelle]

you'll probably run into the "it takes too long to get this much ore" before hitting the eff cap

[stray snow]

damn

im only at layer 5 (i regret ignoring hole)

[bleak gazelle]

Not really, you can look through their parser codebase to get an idea, but nothing in any of the tools. Damage is just a byproduct of basically everything. Most regular sources are additive. Equinox Matching Scims and Rift Eclipse Skulls are the only two non-paid multis I can think of off the top of my head. Idk if the alchemy Tri bubbles are, too, or if they just scale well due to base stat amounts
https://github.com/Morta1/IdleonToolbox/blob/main/parsers/damage.js

[frank shore]

what should my BM sample

[stray snow]

for me my bm is just refinery samples

[fossil peak]

ok and everything in the game for damage mostly is additive percent, like two different 100% buffs is 200% not 1000%. Howveer some paid things are multiplicative, like the golem pet is multiplicative right? and some packs, like even the one released today?

[stray snow]

yeah u can pay but theres alot of easy stuff to do for dmg upgrades especially owl

[fallow panther]

whats the best

[bleak gazelle]

I'd say 95% of the paid damage multipliers are true multipliers (i.e. they're in a category of just themselves)
I don't know if other in-game damage boosts are all in the same group, there are probably a handful of them, so some of them basically get watered down due to how many values are in them

[fossil peak]

true, ok thank you

[nocturne patrol]

poggers

[stray snow]

noice

[languid bluff]

In-game number vs Idleon Toolbox numbers. Can anyone figure out why it's so different? The only thing I can think of is if the wisdom monument villager exp is multi instead of additive

[stray snow]

theres stuff it isnt accounting for

toolbox shows my dmg is different by alot compared to whats ingame aswell

[languid bluff]

Ye, I know, but it was accurate until this last update so I'm trying to figure out what it could not be counting

The only difference is I now have a rupie slug (but i'm at cavern 13) and I have +20% villager exp from Wisdom monument

[orchid moss]

rupie slug could be bugged

[bleak gazelle]

IT hasn't updated for the patch

[orchid moss]

oh so no wisdom tracking?

[marsh pecan]

I need tips how to push this faster.
Feel free to give more than one tip I will make sure to apply everything I can to make it go faster.

[languid bluff]

I know. Also, it's not a 1.5x multi so it's not rupie slug