lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[solar seal]

so no longer time limited

[sand summit]

Let me give some context. Not only I have doot, I have every single pet from season 1 and 2. Got all boosts I can get with gems ( except the one rated C or B ). Got lab nodes unlocked up to 2x stamp bonus and more multikill so I assumed due to Jocund / Lab Node / Gem Gear ( robes / capes / trophies whatever ) I can get to VMAN in like 2 days of account focusing. I was thinking for a decent spender getting the VMAN out of the way is the way to go. ATM im mainly interested in making a good base for the account as im prioritizing "efficiency" over "fun" ( for now )
EDIT: in my begginer eyes having more skill eff and overall the benefits from the VMAN combined with the p2w aspects I have made sense. Otherwise if id stop rn with the VMAN process im not sure how id approach this.

[supple wigeon]

Ah ok because I checked and thought it was bugged. So set it and forget it. Good, I work 12 hour shifts so it works for me

[stable temple]

\

[sand summit]

My condoleances

[keen pier]

rupies really do be feeling slow af to progress

[peak verge]

They are.

[keen pier]

all night and i get 1 collectible, and not even enough yellow rupies to really do anything

[tough tundra]

while in most contexts I imagine using the prayer directly is better, does "No more praying" work on the Shiny Snitch Prayer to allow for duplicate shinies prior to having enough shiny rate to directly use the prayer sufficiently?

[simple wadi]

I'd imagine so, but I don't recommend using No More Praying. It's too much of a trade-off.

[split meteor]

i was definitely being sarcastic over saying vman sucks, you probably should make him and make sure to sink divinity pearls into things like trapping or whatever you can, his buffs are pretty nice

[stable temple]

Can we afk bones now? Or not yet

[sand summit]

divinity pearls? o.o

[tough tundra]

yea makes sense to be, I imagine the curses are typically additive so they don't harm as much as they initially appear, haven't been using them as much as I probably should have just had the giant one on since it has no drawback and is helpful but hadn't checked the rest

[split meteor]

you should be getting those if you have king doot and level 2 divinity, you get a chance to get them as a drop everytime you level from one of the gods... they give 25% skill exp to whichever skill is displayed bottom left, amazing for things like trapping cooking

[simple wadi]

Here's what I normally run along with Midas when I'm not on DB

[solar seal]

Should I be utilizing the 'No More Praying' Superbit bonus?
No. A 20% increase of all typically unused prayers would be nice - but an 80% decrease of the prayers you want to use is not nice.
Also, you can't get giants at all without the prayer on - so definitely not worth.

[sand summit]

i got the lvl 2 divinity on all chars to trigger doot bonus. But i dont think I ever saw one of those pearls. So i gotta actively lvl up div for those to dorp

[bleak gazelle]

where shiny prayer

[split meteor]

theyre red circles? i get them every time i log on

[bleak gazelle]

40% xp btw

[solar seal]

any skill level should start dropping them - not just div -- but it needs to be over lvl 50 first

[simple wadi]

It's just what they're called. Has nothing to do with the Divinity skill.

[sand summit]

NOW that makes sense. I dont got any over lvl 50 XD. I uber rushed W5 ( 5 days ) and now im sitting in confusion overall. So i cant get those pearls then

[tough tundra]

I see, will have to get some of those unlocked still, had been doing divinity a fair bit since getting to W5 so hadn't gone back to do the worships enough

[split meteor]

nope you can only use their effect on skills under level 50, they drop off any skill at any level as far as i know

under*

[sand summit]

Got got thx 💕

[split meteor]

oh look at that

[sand summit]

I checked wiki after too. So i got no pearls for some time which is fine ig

Altho confusing. Might be harder to keep vman 1st at all but ill manage

[split meteor]

if you ignored most of your skills you would be in a great spot to start a vman, youd have no problem getting highest skill levels on him

[past sparrow]

Is this guy not released yet?

[simple wadi]

Not released yet. Come back in ~3 days

[split meteor]

i need to get like level 104 woodcut 98 mining and 86 fishing on my vman gonna take forever

[past sparrow]

ty

[split meteor]

but then again now i have many times more efficiency in those sklls so it wont be such a timesink as it was the first time

[simple wadi]

Get the bravery monument bonuses going and your mining skill will jump.

[hybrid mountain]

For the conjuror in the caverns, what is a "measurement bonus"?

[peak verge]

You need to unlock the Measure villager

[bleak gazelle]

found in c7

[hybrid mountain]

ah ok, that makes sense. For the engineer, I only have "remove rock layer", gold dust and gravel. If I remove rock layer, does that get me the new types of dust I need to collect for the engineer's schematics?

[grizzled oar]

Say someone gets a Samurai, then they buy the 2x villager exp bonus from the gem shop, how does that calculate?

Will it be 5.5x total exp? Or 2x3.5x exp? Or some other third way?

[barren sandal]

they're separate multipliers

so 7x

[grizzled oar]

Cheers mate!

[barren sandal]

np!

while I'm here, does anyone know if the jar production schematic is cumulative or just the jars you have on hand

[lofty field]

Damn 7x

[simple wadi]

Cumulative since it's jars broken, not jars produced. You can check it for yourself by watching the cost of simple jars go down when you click "Break All" on a bunch of simple jars.

[barren sandal]

sweet

tbf it would be pretty useless if it wasn't that

[feral torrent]

i've done this 4 times now

wtf do I do

[barren sandal]

afk there for an hour
come back

[feral torrent]

oh

[subtle tree]

How does mantra work

[peak verge]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[peak hill]

Sorry to bother everyone this morning but can someone tell me how to do the mini boss for w5

[subtle tree]

There should be a pile of rocks in the map with the hot thermometers. You run over the pile to summon the boss

[peak hill]

Oh that's it? Normally you need an item so that's why I was confused

[subtle tree]

Yeah this one is easy to summon

[peak hill]

I'll give it a try then!

& it took longer to ask then it did to kill it. Yay thanks

[fluid nest]

Is there a reason why people don't use up their upgrade slots on armor? I've noticed that since I've started playing

[barren sandal]

? like, regular armour
I've never heard of such a thing

[split parcel]

after getting purrmep am I free to go?

[barren sandal]

if you mean premium stuff those need the special p2w stones

[fluid nest]

every time i've inspected someone they've always had their upgrade slots unused

nope just regular armor not premium

[barren sandal]

if you have doot yeah
but you still wanna level divinity for the minor bonuses

[lethal furnace]

Btw I think I found nice strategy for gaming, unless it was discovered already
(edit: nevermind)

[barren sandal]

maybe it just uses the base form of the armour lol

[fluid nest]

was wondering if there was a reason people were doing it

[fluid nest]

after your response I'm starting to think that too lol

[jaunty pasture]

do i get afk hours in the monument if i send my chars to the motherlode?/

[barren sandal]

no

you're not at the monument

same as fractal island

[jaunty pasture]

ok, ty

[split meteor]

pretty confused venison malt vial doesnt really seem to do very much for stamps O_O

[dense flax]

Finally got one of the divine after so much farming, it is the best statue right?

Or was it the hardest to get?

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, the top 3 exist in a capped pool, unsure what the overall cap is, maybe the 90% that the vial shows?

[barren sandal]

there's a hardcap at 90% shared between the 2 vials

[split meteor]

ohhhhhhhhhh okk

[barren sandal]

only boost past that is the sigil

[bleak gazelle]

hardest of the w5 statues

[split meteor]

sadface

[scarlet blade]

onyxing the dragon warrior statue isnt working?

i tried multiple times all around him

is there a bug since of the transferring old dragon warrior statues to the new villager xp statues?

[barren sandal]

Have you made it gold again yet

[scarlet blade]

you right 💀

that was it

[fluid nest]

is there a talent that I'm missing that gives damage based on the amount of bones you CURRENTLY have? Just spent like 100k bones on db and lost 2k damage but I don't see a corrosponding talent that would do that

[scarlet blade]

forgot that was even a thing lol ty

[barren sandal]

It’s in the grimoire yeah
power of 10 first bones owned

[fluid nest]

somehow forgot things in the grimoire do things thank you

[barren sandal]

Lol np

[split meteor]

db farming sort of growing on me after farming 50k power statues its a nice change of scenery

[nocturne patrol]

very hard to not gamba uwu

[glad isle]

ayyyyy

ganble and win big sharki

[feral torrent]

how mant is your gains per hour

[split meteor]

1% of the time works every time

[glad isle]

just ask him to show info

[glad isle]

nah it doesn't exist

5% is key

[frozen oyster]

It’s only 100k a stick why wouldn’t you

It’s basically free at cost

[glad isle]

gambling time 🤓

[glad isle]

hes gonna bully u if 1% didn't work

[frozen oyster]

Then he isn’t very good at gambling

[glad isle]

nuh

[frozen oyster]

And it’s all his own fault for not hitting the button better

[glad isle]

this isn't dice

[bleak gazelle]

Reminder to go updoot my suggestion to move Equal Spread earlier in the conjuror tree, should help out newer hole folks
#player-suggestions message

[languid mist]

is this the peanut role channel nvm it's the suggestions one, got the role

[bleak gazelle]

No that's #endgame-gen-chat
or #👀read-me if you want to get the roles

[languid mist]

Ye I got it. There's your updoot

[junior delta]

this is gonna be big

[languid mist]

Mine's at nearly 5x even though I only unlocked it today. I suppose in this case we just grind hours for a while until we consume the multiplier with a run?

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, if you can, just throw all your people in there to get to 300 rq and try it with that

[keen trellis]

do I just walk into these to proc it?

[undone field]

Best level to challenge Kattlekruk w my BC?

[undone field]

Yes

[keen trellis]

do they spawn on the lava looking platform?

need to orb up before I fight it

thanks

[languid mist]

BC?

[undone field]

Bubo

[languid mist]

Oh. The pins apparently recommend between 50M~80M damage.

[keen trellis]

i might even get an 800 orb for this boss 👁️

[languid mist]

I reckon if your aura and poison can one-shot the biggole moles, you should be fine. It's a matter of time then

[undone field]

Oops I meant Nightmare Kruk

[keen trellis]

darn had to stop at 688 it went faster than I expected

[languid mist]

Oh that. No idea myself. I have yet to do that with any class except Siege Breaker

[frozen oyster]

Why’s you do it on siege breaker

[languid mist]

One day I woke up and my Siege Breaker had billions of damage. The damage just keeps going up, I can't even keep track of it.

So it just worked with it

[undone field]

Idleon moment

[barren sandal]

Yes and yes

[feral torrent]

should I enable the toggle? dunno what it means

[languid mist]

Yes. The bar's max cap increases, and you get to accumulate more of that type of mineral. I think there's also a schematic that gives you a bonus of some sort for each expansion.

[thin inlet]

are you guys have doot? trade with golem

[languid mist]

this one

[barren sandal]

#pet-trades

[spring finch]

how tf do i get those

[solar seal]

Logic applies in order

Simple Jar:
If you have 1000 green, you can get red/green/blue.
If you have 100 red, you can get red/green

Great Jar:
If you have 500k Magenta, you can get Yellow/Magenta/Turquoise
If you have 10k Yellow, you can get Yellow/Magenta

Epic Jar:
If you have 50M Ultramarine, you can get Orange/Ultramarine/Purple
If you have 6M Orange, you can get Orange/Ultramarine

#endgame-gen-chat message

[spring finch]

ohhh alr tyty

[viral granite]

the 100% gets rolled away and gl getting it back :))

[frozen oyster]

Then you didn’t hit the 1% hard enough

[viral granite]

ok bro

[latent bridge]

anybody got a foolproof strat for the tower defense?

[solar seal]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558

sry wrong link initially

[viral granite]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# :)

[feral torrent]

so once I get the 🐐 I can park my characters in lab?

[latent bridge]

outdated

[viral granite]

wym outdated, stuff are mostly the same

[latent bridge]

you cannot place towers on portals anymore

also these have basically no order of placement at all

[viral granite]

no order?

[latent bridge]

w5

[viral granite]

yea because you have the points for each? xd

[latent bridge]

why would i be asking in this channel if else

[solar seal]

the guides sheet is okay for what it is - obv no one uses it as gospel

[viral granite]

it gets you to the breakpoints

[latent bridge]

uh no, both of them expect me to have them all because they expect me to go over 100 wich is not the case

[viral granite]

wdym go over 100

[latent bridge]

i just want to get to 50 for equinox for now

[viral granite]

100 what

[latent bridge]

100 waves

what else

[viral granite]

lol idk

[solar seal]

the guides sheet is sufficient for wave 50 for TD. the only one it doesn't cover is w5 - which you can find better guides for in https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558

[latent bridge]

thank you

[solar seal]

wrt wave 120 for td, simply follow the pancake guides in https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558 and just build out the krakens slowly versus waht he has

[split meteor]

i wanna do that so bad, probably need lv50 party starters before its enjoyable, for citris conflict

[obsidian briar]

BRO I GOT A DOOT AND THEN IT WENT PAST AND MY GAME FUCKING CRASHED

IM GOING TO PUNCH MY PHONE

I should've screenshot it

The cooldown is reset, I got nothing

I'm going to crash out

I tried restarting the game and it's not fixed. This game is giving me everything BUT a doot

[lethal furnace]

u can fairly kill it, just get character than can one shot moles, and has huge AoE attacks. but how long it gonna take, is up to u

[undone field]

I'm trying to do last merit task for scarf

[solar seal]

level kind of is irrelevant. what matters is your dmg. i generally tell folks to replace the M for B from the normal kruk graphic for all classes except vman/bb

so bubo i'd expect to be able to do n.kruk at ~50B

[nocturne patrol]

late sorry

[remote merlin]

do any of the studies in hole have a max lvl?

or u can lvl them up infinitely

[peak verge]

some of them do

[solar seal]

the only major one that i am aware of is bravery - caps at 32% of max value

[remote merlin]

ah ok ty

[odd socket]

is the mole bugged? got it the day new companions released and I haven't resampled since

[solar seal]

its a ui issue. lowest displayed above 1.00 is 1.02 - wait another day

[lethal furnace]

and what it wants from you to do?

[undone field]

Defeat nightmare Kruk on all characters in order

[lethal furnace]

ah

then easy as I said, just how long it gonna take is up to u, if u one shot moles, boss can't heal up, simple

[split meteor]

i wonder if mob respawn makes moles appear faster or not

[lavish adder]

How exactly does the gaming shovel work? The longer you wait the bigger the nugget or is it just random?

[split meteor]

nope they take increasingly longer to appear
its something like first nugget takes 1 hour to spawn, second nugget takes 2 hours, third nugget takes four
i dont believe it affects nugget size so the best method is click shovel whenever its glowing

[solar seal]

the only thing affects the nugget range is a) the import level and b) equinox upgrade (and accordingly # nuggets since last upgrade)

[peak verge]

Random, but you should collect nuggets asap since they will generate slower and slower the more they pile up in the shovel, same as with squirrel acorns.

[barren sandal]

the way to upgrade nugget is sit on gaming for hours farming chem plants and clicking the shovel lol

(9.5m nugget here)

I dread to think how slow it was before endless summoning boosted the equinox upgrade

[peak verge]

Just as slow dw. It's still RNG at the end of the day.

Been sitting on a 14M nugget long before I finished gaming.

[barren sandal]

still, raising by 15% compared to 5...

shudder

[zinc torrent]

Oh, the generation rate has diminishing returns, like with Spice foraging?

[solar seal]

same with squirrel acorns

[soft zealot]

finally reached the point where my cooking speed snowballs

[zinc torrent]

Super useful PSA; TIL

[nova swan]

Is sailing slow in the beginning? Seems kinda slow.

[orchid moss]

nice name

[bleak gazelle]

it is ridiculously slow. slower than i remember as i'm going through it on my alt

[orchid moss]

how much gfood effect percent do i need to make golden hampter procs guaranteed

[simple wadi]

It used to take our ancestors 6 months to cross the Atlantic. Now it takes three weeks. Sailing will get faster, don't worry

[orchid moss]

lmfao

[solar seal]

there's no 1 answer to this since its based on more than just those 2 numbers (i.e. # of hampters equipped). it is more about getting hampters beanstacked that guarantees the sailing proc

[icy pulsar]

not me, mine got between the atlantic in 3 seconds

#ancientaliens

[languid mist]

It's trash for sure. Omniphau helps a lot with the occasional Sailing time procs.

[orchid moss]

do you know what the baseline is once you get 100k beanstalk?

i have 10k rn but only 69% chance

[lone galleon]

Is there a bonus for total c12 logs

[solar seal]

100k beanstack *should guarantee it

[vast perch]

How does the shovel in gaming work, I could use it non-stop and now it doesn't want to work that way?

[orchid moss]

ic ty

[simple wadi]

There's a cooldown

[vast perch]

That makes sense

[solar seal]

when you first unlock it, it's held a lot of charge due to 🍝 code. from here on out, you want to click it as soon as it has charge, but its min 1 hr cd

[vast perch]

Oh, okay 1hr per gold or 1hr per 3?

[simple wadi]

It accumulates charges, though. You won't miss out

[vast perch]

Alright, thank you

[simple wadi]

Per nugget

[solar seal]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[ivory mantle]

does SB respawn still work for Grotto cavern? I have been AFK for 15 mins and no Plunderous mob appear. I do have the bonus from Vman as well

[orchid moss]

yea its just rng on the first plunderous

should be fine after that

[ivory mantle]

oh, did he decrease the chance? or it just so happened to be like that since before?

[orchid moss]

been like that since before

you need first plunderous to trigger respawn

[ivory mantle]

i meant the chance for the first plunderous to spawn

[orchid moss]

no it's the same

ur just getting unlucky

[ivory mantle]

i see, thanks!

[lost quarry]

Are there any guides for the caverns? I am at cavern 7, but I make absolutely zero progress

[orchid moss]

[brazen wharf]

which gaming upgrades are best at improving bit gains

[bleak gazelle]

yes

[ivory mantle]

shovel and snail for me but shovel is heavily RNG

[orchid moss]

snail is also rng

[brazen wharf]

is the kitsune roxie even worth turning on?

[peak verge]

You keep it permanently on.

[brazen wharf]

ok thanks

[peak verge]

At most turn it off when going to sleep if you can, but no big deal otherwise.

[nocturne patrol]

the 4th note is the one i need for upgrade ?

[tawdry wigeon]

Hey, i rushed to W5 and i was wondering if i should care about divination at all at this moment(reaching a specific god or wtv) or trying to improve my gear(currently full dementia)/alchemy/stamps/unlocking VMAN to reach W6 and then put my ES or the whole squad in there.

[bleak gazelle]

what's the damage like on your pusher?
and what class?

[orchid moss]

man bravery without librarian actually takes so long

[tawdry wigeon]

My DK has currently 7M

[lethal stump]

best spot for cc? except tremor wurms i dont have enough dmg

[orchid moss]

wurms > citrines > flombeige > cans

[lethal stump]

my poisons must 1 hit the monster right?

[orchid moss]

ye

[lethal stump]

then flombeiges i guess

[orchid moss]

also nice if you 1 shot the crystals

[bleak gazelle]

well, you'll need about 3x that for boss plus at least 54k acc (probably 81k, still determining if that's necessary)
so throw everyone on div till bear and co check out #1303761365273415700
VMan can probably wait till w6 since push through w5 is pretty fast nowadays
Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[lethal stump]

poison dmg sucks

[bleak gazelle]

But, play however you think is fun

[tawdry wigeon]

Thanks

[orchid moss]

i got vman in w4

[bleak gazelle]

i still don't have maestro

[orchid moss]

goat

[bleak gazelle]

DR grind too stronk

[orchid moss]

yoo another bravery opal pog

[nocturne patrol]

give me a nugget bruh

[bleak gazelle]

you want mine? just got a nice little jump from 70x

[languid locust]

had 15k nugget since november and now im in red bits 💔

[nocturne patrol]

u get red bits with 15k nugget wow

gz

[languid locust]

barely 😂

Still sucks 💔

[solar seal]

@cerulean creek re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
In order to get game to recognize your current GP, change which character you are currently using to be displayed in your guild. Once it is changed, it should detect your new GP value and give the achievement.

[nocturne patrol]

wat is ur nugget on main ?

[glad isle]

real

👀

[bleak gazelle]

37.8m, haven't don't much instant, just clicking occasionally while farming

[solar seal]

@north flower re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
Just to confirm if you have 2 DB, you have to do wow's on your 2nd DB -- just like superchows

[bleak gazelle]

And superchows
-# or maybe "just like superchows"

[soft zealot]

hit the 1% croissant recipe finally

the thing is i've never idled my BB in cooking for ladles since i've zoomed up to w5 and had everyone on divinity

do BB's park in the kitchen anymore?

[peak verge]

Only when you need the 100k ladles equinox and you make like 5k/10k ladles per day.

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, no point leaving it there for 100 ladles/day

[frozen oyster]

should i even bother trying to kill these xD

[bleak gazelle]

click alchemy

[frozen oyster]

never mind they are dieing

[solar seal]

you may want to do some backtracking. just cause you are in w6 doesn't mean you are ready for w6

[frozen oyster]

nah i just came here to farm out some good real quick

[soft zealot]

maybe turn off your wormhole

[frozen oyster]

i have the acc for it damage is lacking

[soft zealot]

(if it's the wormhole mobs that are tanky)

[frozen oyster]

nah the crystal mobs

im assuming those are the crystal boys

[soft zealot]

oh i didn't even know they were crystals

[orchid moss]

eclipsed wurms lol

[frozen oyster]

i dont even have the talent for crystal spawns so idk why 4 spawned right away

[orchid moss]

achievement for w5

gives you 4 daily

[frozen oyster]

AHHH

how muych better can these get

[bleak gazelle]

doesn't matter, turn them into rings

[orchid moss]

still havent gotten one of those

[frozen oyster]

i meant keychains in general

pickle too good to me

[orchid moss]

peopple pretty much only use dr, mob respawn ones

oh and afk gain

[frozen oyster]

yeh figured once you get high enough you dont need more stats or defense

[orchid moss]

more stats is always good but mob respawn, dr, and afk gains are just premium stats

[nocturne patrol]

where can i cc like this ?

[orchid moss]

wurms > citrines > flombeige > can

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I am past royal eggs in world 6 now

[orchid moss]

check which one your poison 1 shots

[nocturne patrol]

Okay ty

[pastel kayak]

All alts in rift

[leaden scaffold]

Who should you active on in the temple?

[split meteor]

at 5b you should be good to do citrines? just check if your poison cloud 1 hits them or not

[terse furnace]

There are multiple sources of talent levels, 100 come from sailing. Max level rn iirc is 395

[orchid moss]

I believe still active sb for pushing floors

Afk for farming statues

[leaden scaffold]

Ah ok thanks

[terse furnace]

Temple?

[frozen oyster]

is there a way to pick what this deposits?

[terse furnace]

All or nothing

[orchid moss]

c15

[terse furnace]

How are u guys already that far? 😭

[orchid moss]

im not

[terse furnace]

I'm almost at early w7 and I'm stuck on C11 for 10 more days

[orchid moss]

some people are

i get c12 tomorrow

[frozen oyster]

ahhhh i did the little reset on roo instead of the big one rip

[orchid moss]

you need to do 1 anyways to start

[frozen oyster]

im on my 4th fish already

so that was number 2

[orchid moss]

happens

i also misclicked it before

[stable parrot]

wtf

[orchid moss]

heard the rates are complete trash

on temple

[marsh plinth]

what does this mean? is it for lab?

[peak verge]

it's for a villager you haven't unlocked yet

[bleak gazelle]

yeehaw, first jewel

[stable parrot]

like dragon statue, torches, centurian chance?

[orchid moss]

centurion chance

[nocturne patrol]

poggers

[stable parrot]

its not great

[orchid moss]

what does this mean

i dont have lib yet

[solar seal]

any particular reason you are doing cans over floms?

[stable parrot]

thats for the enchanting jar

[orchid moss]

oh ic

[stable parrot]

its after the decent rupie jar

[balmy solstice]

Renew or keep for the time being?

[peak verge]

Renew after you buy both bell schematics and later on after every bell study you unlock.

[quartz tide]

Any advice on some AFK activities for my alts?

I can't do splicing because I need more than 1+hour of AFK. I am thinking monument?

Currently CC'ing as on my active char.

https://agent_tango.idleonefficiency.com/

[balmy solstice]

My bell study is level 4, I’m getting +80 levels

More curious on if the rolls were decent for working through new caverns

[orchid moss]

uh ie doesnt show hole but yea hole jail is very good to do

[quartz tide]

I haven't done any monuments other than the first one.

[peak verge]

You rolled everything into rupies and torches, the slowest additions to the caverns. What else could you possibly hope to roll for?

[orchid moss]

yea 2k bravery is nice to get

[balmy solstice]

Letssss goooo

[orchid moss]

but also what god are you on in div?

kinda hard to tell on ie

[quartz tide]

I got doot so I didn't do any divinity other than level 48 (Doing Tranqi for 50, multitool stamp)

[orchid moss]

ah ok

[grizzled sinew]

how bad/hard is the new method of getting Dragon statues compared to before?
is it still a base drop on whatever it is now tied to?

[quartz tide]

I have first three gods.

[orchid moss]

you should still push to purrmiep tho

you also dont have lab 75 yet so i would just do lab/div jail for a bit

on alts

and then you can move on to hole jail after

[bleak gazelle]

pretty sure it's the exact same, just afk with max MKPT

[grizzled sinew]

nice
so its a loss but not too bad of one

also ello ace

[orchid moss]

the main loss is it being 6 caverns after where it was before

[grizzled sinew]

damn

[orchid moss]

but most sweats already got c15

[bleak gazelle]

well, should be easier since damage and DR got scaled up, bigger issue is getting to c15 now

[grizzled sinew]

well i dont really need to worry about it for a while
i was just curious as to how it was now

[orchid moss]

it's same but getting c15 is pain

[grizzled sinew]

im at C0
or i should say C-0?

[orchid moss]

ur like the horizontal progression king tho

[grizzled sinew]

true true

very few are of my caliber

[orchid moss]

if you wanted to you could easily reach w6 lol

[grizzled sinew]

yeah lmaop
but it would be kind of a waste at this point imo

[orchid moss]

gotta stick to your principles

[ornate raven]

does the justice and bravery monument count minutes?

[orchid moss]

no only hours

[quartz tide]

nopppee

[ornate raven]

😦

[grizzled sinew]

yep
i must never waver
i must stand the course on this untrodden path

[bleak gazelle]

once you start getting monument afk% then your hour claims can be reduced to xx minute claims

[frozen oyster]

brought him to life just to go to jail

[orchid moss]

@bleak gazelle idk if im tweaking but i just got vilalger statue drop on 4 chars with only 1 hr afk

[naive sage]

half way there (no choco chip)

[orchid moss]

around 21-22 dr on each

[bleak gazelle]

yes that's how rng works

the real question is if all your characters get it at 1h and 22x

[uncut orchid]

i cri

[orchid moss]

well every char that was on gloomies got it

[grizzled sinew]

im thinking aboutt doing this once i get to W4
mainly becasue ill have the everyone to lv 250 min before then

tho i will have to worry about the whole everyone to lv 500 min dream in EQ
but that will be way later id assume

[orchid moss]

ill just try again and see

[amber marsh]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[azure hedge]

does gaming use str for eff at all?

[orchid moss]

gaming doesnt have eff at all lol

[azure hedge]

i assume it is the same for div and sailing then

[orchid moss]

yus

[stable parrot]

its not looking good

[azure hedge]

i see the reason for 2 of all char for w5 skills now

[lethal stump]

yo whats the best place for w2 splicing? and also need active attack bar for bubo

[stable parrot]

sand giants

[stable parrot]

CC or no

[lethal stump]

cc

[lethal stump]

Ty

[azure hedge]

so do i only get gold bars from one ship in sailing? or is it island dependent?

[bleak gazelle]

leasy you have c15 i still have like 3 days

[stable parrot]

did you use your lanterns yet?

[bleak gazelle]

gold bars can come from every island and every ship
and exclusively until level 5 when you can start gaining other island materials

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, probably too soon, oh well

[stable parrot]

like all of them?

[bleak gazelle]

328m with 215

yes

[stable parrot]

I think your justice was just lacking then

[bleak gazelle]

oh 100% i was letting it stack to 7/14 days long ago

i fucking hate justice

[stable parrot]

damn

[bleak gazelle]

24k hours and i've only gotten a single run that was better than my pre-24k best

[stable parrot]

I like it better than bravery

[vivid coral]

been almost 3 week i afk my character here for drop glove recipes, is this normal i get nothing?

[bleak gazelle]

get more DR

and more respawn/afk/move speed

[split meteor]

we're in the same boat maou, you could move your luck shrine there?

[lethal stump]

got it at my first hour on w5

[bleak gazelle]

i mean hopefully they have artifact so they don't need to move the shrine

[split meteor]

o ya lol i forget bout that

[vivid coral]

not enough?

[lethal stump]

tf is that DR

[simple wadi]

For what?

[vivid coral]

i don't need have the buff where i got buff shrine anywhere i am

[stable parrot]

sad

[lethal stump]

I WASTED MY CC BRO

[simple wadi]

Maou, how many royal urns do you have?

[vivid coral]

glove recipes

[bleak gazelle]

bro my alt has almost as much

[covert meteor]

what's the most important thing to upgrade in the merit shop of W5?

[simple wadi]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[azure hedge]

when i hit my first mantra forms, should i just use mantra until i get like 25 on all char?

[covert meteor]

oh didnt know thats a command

[split meteor]

you might be better off camping gigafrogs for one night nad sandy pots for another for full drop rate obols

if you didnt know DR divides the chance of the drop by your dr so 1 in 50m divided by 6 would be like 1 in 9m true kills but if you farmed a set of drop rate obols it would become 1 in like 5mil true kills

(not sure on exact numbers this is just how i understand it currently)

[vivid coral]

royal urns ?

[simple wadi]

The rare drop from suggmas.

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably stay on Focus until you unlock at least goat (honestly Omni, too, and maybe even purrmep)

[fast pine]

At which cavern do you unlock the librarian?

[azure hedge]

do i want my es on most exp or just points?

[simple wadi]

12 I believe

[lilac otter]

Best to study?

[vivid coral]

1158

royal urn

[simple wadi]

I had a little under 4k when the recipe dropped for me. 1k royal urns has the same drop rate as the recipe, so you're only a little shy of the average drop rate of it.

[simple wadi]

So based off of the bonuses from the guide, imo here's the tier list for studying.

S-tier: Bravery, Justice, Gambit, (Wisdom when added)
A-tier: Bell, Jars,
B-tier: Den, Temple, Well
C-tier: Motherlode, Hive, Evertree, Grotto
D-tier: Harp, Lamp

[lilac otter]

tyy

should i pour all my opals into exploring until i get them all?

[simple wadi]

What are your levels right now?

[lilac otter]

12, 20, 23, 11, 22

156 total opals

Also i maybe should reinvest my conjurer points

[simple wadi]

Yeah I'd full send on explorer for now. Your conjurer is a little behind where he should be, but your others are in line with your progress.

[white field]

what is the best captain stats to roll for?

[simple wadi]

Depends on where you are in sailing.

[stable parrot]

[simple wadi]

Early on, boat speed and cloud discovery are good. Near the end of sailing, it's all about that loot value.

[white field]

im somewhere in endgame but no too sure

[lilac otter]

you are probably in the early endgame

endgame is SUPER LONG AND TEDIOUS

[lethal stump]

i got these two decent i guess

[narrow cloak]

sometimes i can access the printing quick ref during a speedrun and sometimes i cant, do i need to kill the w2 boss or smth to get access?

[fathom grotto]

how to start wisdom?

[orchid moss]

not out yet

[fathom grotto]

thx

[nocturne patrol]

meta keychain for card farming kek

[topaz chasm]

Returning player. When launching game on steam - i get blank characer screen. Tried rebooting.

[bleak gazelle]

only 2 more pops till i'm done

[bleak gazelle]

don't sign in with Steam Login unless you made your account after november and used it

[topaz chasm]

Alright but its not letting me sign in, theres no option

[bleak gazelle]

Try this
STEAM - FORCE UPDATE
Library -> Right click Game - > Properties -> Installed Files Tab -> Verify Files integrity

[topaz chasm]

ah yes i did this already aswell

[sick matrix]

Man I love when my game crashes during a free pet roll and I miss out on doot

[frozen oyster]

I can’t even get the last pet I need

I’m at jawbreaker with no sandy pot so I can’t fill the collection smh

[bleak gazelle]

If you're getting to a character screen, there hsould be a logout button

[orchid moss]

finally finished flurbo stat equi dream

[frozen oyster]

If I’m at 20million oak logs what’s the best way to get the number down for ez access menu?

[orchid moss]

just make another stack

[azure hedge]

just unlocked anvil tab 4! now i can look at all the things i cant make for the next month!

[sick matrix]

Yeah game crashed as soon as a doot appeared and it was like the last roll ended up getting no pet and it reset the timer

[frozen oyster]

Oh can you split stack inside storage,

Of the same thing that is

[orchid moss]

no just move some to your inv then manually drag

and make a new stack

[frozen oyster]

I just assumed you can only have 1 stack of each

So does that mean I could have 20 green stacks of oak logs

[orchid moss]

nah some sweats got like 20 stacks of green souls

[lethal stump]

im R41 and cant even kill one of these bro tf am i supposed to do

[orchid moss]

you could but you have to refrain from pressing auto sort

[frozen oyster]

mental boom when you hit auto sort xD

might do it for the equinox since i dont have that much i can green stack

[bleak gazelle]

upgrade your stats

[peak verge]

If you didn't roll horn it's prolly gonna be hard.

[orchid moss]

it doesnt group the stacks but your highest stack gets put first

[lethal stump]

wdym

[peak verge]

Do you know why you were aiming for r40?

[orchid moss]

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[frozen oyster]

time to put everyone in jail

[lethal stump]

is producing 11 bil oak logs a day enough to start atom collider btw?

[zinc torrent]

Horn, one of gold upgrades. It's doable without though

[frozen oyster]

im sorry 11 billion a day -_-

[orchid moss]

why do you know it by day and not hour lmao

[lethal stump]

nah just i got r40 randomly

[frozen oyster]

my sample base of oak is only 10k

[lethal stump]

idk more number satisfy me more

[orchid moss]

you probably should have started it earlier tbh

[lethal stump]

im like alot worse than any other player

theres ppl can produce 1 trillion or smth probably

[frozen oyster]

i havent resampledd in awhile annoying to move my cloak over every time

[orchid moss]

why is helium so expensive

[peak verge]

You set this in traits, you choose Coin Flip and pray it lands on Horn. GG you can solo the dungeon, try to aim for some crit chance to get going. If you lose the coinflip, it's gonna be a bit harder to deal with stage 4.

[sand hamlet]

Are the gloomie mushrooms only able to be killed actively? And whats the best way to farm the little statues for it?

[orchid moss]

afk better for statues

active for pushing monarch

[peak verge]

How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Villgaer Statues from afk.
⁠tips-n-tricks⁠The Hole Guide!

Active farm on a Siegebreaker with plunder setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with everyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
⁠unknown
TL;DR - More DR equals shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim.
Expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range for 30x DR, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x

[lethal stump]

if i lose the coıinflip i wont even be able to do third boss bro

[bleak gazelle]

really wish my stream deck could paste that

[lethal stump]

anyways im pretty sure i dont have this rng item

[orchid moss]

you can just reset

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[lethal stump]

well well well

i dont think i have the coin flip bro 😭

[peak verge]

Go get it.

[lethal stump]

nvm i do

should i level the coin flip

+15 flippy wippy boo sounds cool

[indigo sable]

would the 10th character being a voidmaster be bad

[lethal stump]

yes

[indigo sable]

what should it be

[lethal stump]

7th or 8th

[indigo sable]

i have one in ninth

i would have another one

[lethal stump]

just go for vman then

[indigo sable]

thanks

[peak verge]

don't get 2 vmans what

[azure hedge]

11 days on a cosmic candy when searching for stiltmole cards, imma gasm

[lethal stump]

oh did i understood that wrong

@indigo sable do you already have one journeyman

[indigo sable]

yes

[lethal stump]

aight dont make more only one

[indigo sable]

siege breaker?

[lethal stump]

idk what do you have

[swift zenith]

Hi, is the dawg den still bugged for Bubo ?

[lethal stump]

2 divine knight 1 beast master 1 blood berserker 2 siege breaker 2 elemental sorcerer 1 bubonic conjuror

and 1 vman

[indigo sable]

damn mines are crap then

[bleak gazelle]

2nd ES/SB can hold off on if you want to wait for masters to release

[lethal stump]

bro 😭

[indigo sable]

2 BB, 2 DK, 1 Bubo, 1 ES and 1 Journeyman

[swift zenith]

There was a bug onn the dog den that let ppl get super high scores with bubo

[lethal stump]

2 melee? 😭

4*

[indigo sable]

i'm not starting again man

[bleak gazelle]

good ol 4 warrior accounts

[lethal stump]

its alright its not that bad

at least u will have 2 deathbringers

[bleak gazelle]

oh, yes, it's been fixed for a while i believe

[indigo sable]

elemental or siege breaker?

[lethal stump]

elemental

[indigo sable]

ok

[swift zenith]

thanks!

[indigo sable]

thanks

[lethal stump]

i make like 1250 atoms per day what should i upgrade they all not really good actually

[high wave]

Where can i find an upgraded citrine conflict 160+?

[zinc torrent]

It's doable with basically the same, depending on tower levels

[high owl]

what is the purpose of popularity in the Hole

[bleak gazelle]

popularity gives you a chance to encounter the Gratefulbringer (gives 5 gold/1 chest) instead of the Harbinger
and can be used as a resource to pay off some events

[quick jay]

what is this bell for ? it seems really useless

[high owl]

pretty much every atom upgrade is good and you should aim to upgrade all of them except maybe the last one (snail)

[bleak gazelle]

When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in a bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can view the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.
With the release of C11-15, there are 2 new bonuses in addition to Studies which provide massive bonus levels for every 20 rings. Resetting the bell likely will become very important to RNG into proper bonuses from here on out.

[zinc torrent]

The new study bonus

[high owl]

with new librarian update, it gives you another chance to RNG your Bell upgrades

[quick jay]

I see, thanks

[lethal stump]

damn it increased from 300ish to this much because of this upgrade crazy

[high owl]

it's good when you invest in the Bell upgrade in Library which gives you increments of +20 levels of a random Bell upgrade every 20 rings. So if your Bell library research is level 4, you would get +80 levels of a random Bell perk every 20 times you ring it

[cinder rune]

i replaced my amarok gear with dementia, is there any reason i need to keep all that amarok gear for a quest or upgrade it or anything or can i get rid of it all?

[peak verge]

you can get rid of it

[quick jay]

you should get troll gear to secure future upgrades

[cinder rune]

working on it but that is a loooong haul

the salt is probably going to make me rage quit at some point

[quick jay]

it gets a lot faster as you progress

[azure hedge]

wait for divinity to rage quit, at least then youre making progress

[cinder rune]

i am four rooms from world 6 and i have never done div or lab at all...i had just sitting there

hate

[high wave]

I can't get past wave 90 citrine conflict because of the stupid purple oranges. My void doesn't get them.

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle main is about level 518 now

[zinc torrent]

What level towers?

[feral torrent]

is whatever this thing worth grabbing?

[high wave]

Poisonic 68 void 18 kraken 70 party 75 Strom 74 frozen 62

[obsidian briar]

Should I try it? The final cyan stage.

Do not ask about the names please

[high wave]

The issue is they aren't getting hit by the void so they just get hit and zoom to tower

[bleak gazelle]

not till later

[obsidian briar]

Yk what, I will. Wish me luck lol

[zinc torrent]

Should be plenty high. I think I went void, freeze, kraken, then 2 poisonic, freeze then the kraken freeze combo

[high wave]

I'll try it out

[zinc torrent]

If you do it on bm you should be good with active skills

[high wave]

3 kraken and 1 freeze combo?

[high wave]

I would but my charge is low

[obsidian briar]

I died

[stable parrot]

Candy

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, same setup as the guide, just have to change few things bc the left platform

I know I got 140+ with similar, got bored of the waiting for boss to rip, forfeit after saving

[orchid moss]

first kruk set done

[light jay]

guys i found out how to do a frisk dance in idleon ||if you have played undertale you would know||

[high wave]

Dude I don't get what I'm doing wrong

They just boost right past voidwalker

Voidanator*

[stable parrot]

Like where you walk down or something?

[light jay]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-frisk-undertale-murder-dance-frisk-dance-gif-12943914827829126696

https://streamable.com/i91q62

[stable parrot]

Oh lol

[high wave]

Does bm stop right there stop them from boosting?

[molten epoch]

Hi anyone knows why on dk or db it shows i get more xp per hour than on other classes, and wich is real value i get

[stable parrot]

It knocks them back but counts as a hit

[stable parrot]

Likely more kph

[high wave]

I mean the grass that holds them in place

[light jay]

ngl found this while i was achievement hunting (was trying to find the secret spot in world 5)

[zinc torrent]

Are you having issues with kraken pusing them the wrong way? Citrine was only map that I noticed that recently

[molten epoch]

Soryyyy i forgot to add villager xp i'm asking about villager xp

[high wave]

No I'm having the issue of my void not graying them

In time because they take so much damage they boost right through

[light jay]

oh right what is a good time to go for vman?

[stable parrot]

Mid w5 and on

[low nest]

what cavern is number 13

[stable parrot]

Sounds like a bug with statue talents maybe??

[light jay]

another monument (but this one is a work in progress)

[simple wadi]

Wisdom monument

[low nest]

so 14 is gambit then and 15 is golems?

[nocturne patrol]

do i keep for fractal island ?

[terse furnace]

Fractal island is giga late game content. Rando is more useful

[zinc torrent]

Until use all candy button appears, it's not getting more candies

[nocturne patrol]

Ty

[lethal stump]

DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE LIKE ME BRO NEVER EVER UNLOCK FRACTAL NEVER

[candid vine]

While on TranQI style, Will I gain divinity exp while active farming?

[light jay]

fractal honestly feels like a time dump

[lethal stump]

NOW I HAVE TO WAIT 100 FKING DAYS TO GET THE LAST ISLAND

[orchid moss]

no

[candid vine]

Ohh, thanks

[feral torrent]

that's more than i've ever made

[molten epoch]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FORR HELPP!! It is rather a bug now they are the same but is shows a smaller amount

[high wave]

I fixed the conflict issue, idk what I did but it worked

[stable parrot]

I’ll test it out in a sec, wasn’t sure what was happening

[vale bluff]

Not for long

[desert thorn]

if i play idleon on the same steam acc but different devices will the cloud save be good?

[stable parrot]

Give it a few minute to equalize the cloudsave states after cloudsaving and you’ll be fine

[simple wadi]

If you logged in to your steam idleon session via your google account, yes... for the most part. Cloudsave can be finnicky.

[desert thorn]

so like go to cloudsave when exiting and just wait like 3 minutes

[stable parrot]

Yea that should work

[desert thorn]

ok thankyou

[solar seal]

i wouldn't worry about the later kitchens if you can't afford them yet. 90% of your cooking will be done on the first 3

[simple wadi]

Mfer. At my current exp rate, I'm going to unlock Gambit like 30 minutes after I go to bed tonight >>

[feral torrent]

I got 8 of 10

Used the rest for the bell

My vault upgrades are faaar too much

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle @strong shale see you both in world 6

[feral torrent]

Just realized I couldve used it for hare for more points

[trim wren]

So my 9th Character should be an Elemental Sorcerer? Why is that the case

[simple wadi]

This question gets asked like 60x a day. Where are people getting this information and why is the explanation not written on said information?

[solar seal]

What should my 9th and 10th characters be?
3 options:
-current meta: ES and SB are 9th and 10th - however, current value has fallen for these two as a result of pocket divinity and forge cap increases
-semi-future proofing: mage and archer as 9th and 10th - in order to maintain a balanced 3/3/3/1 split - this will allow you to have focused samples while not locking in elites/master classes until we have all information
-ultra-future proofing: leaving 9th and 10th as beginner - until we have more information on remaining 2 master classes, you simply utilize these 2 characters in jails while biding time until their release

[trim wren]

I have 2 dk, 1 barb, 1 bubo, 1 ES, 1 SB, 1 BM, 1 Vman

[simple wadi]

Can we pin this so we can tell people to check the pinned comment?

[modest vortex]

Is there any list of gaming evo bonuses other than the one in the mutation tab?

[orchid moss]

idleon insight

[solar seal]

its a pasta for a reason - no way they'd pin it

[solar seal]

what exactly do you mean by evo bonuses?

[modest vortex]

i find insight always misses things, and I dont see anything for gaming evo just crop so I was wondering if there even was any

[simple wadi]

You mean this?

[modest vortex]

Like, you know in the mutation tab for gaming your evolution chance

[modest vortex]

yes

[solar seal]

thats literally the only one

[orchid moss]

you just get bit multi the more species you've encountered

[trim wren]

Also I'm asking why Elemental Sorcerer over Bubonic Conjuror

Why not two Bubo

[modest vortex]

okay thats really what I was wondering thanks

[simple wadi]

Isn't there a farming bonus as well?

[orchid moss]

isnt that actually gaming speed

[solar seal]

you would think, but its just speed

[simple wadi]

Ah okay

[peak verge]

Because that was the current meta until like 2 months ago when pocket divinity was added.

[solar seal]

in a pre-pocket divinity world, as a non-dooter, your best source of atoms were ES printing logs due to their ability to have 2 gods linked

[trim wren]

What's pocket divinity

[solar seal]

this is why ES > bubo

[trim wren]

oh the hole thing

[simple wadi]

I'm well aware what you're asking. I'm saying it gets asked multiple times every day by people and I wonder why this information isn't written wherever it is they're getting the idea to get a second ES.

[solar seal]

in a post-pocket divinity world, there is much less of a disparity b/w a 2 bubo vs a 2 es account

[trim wren]

but what if I have doot, does the pocket divinity not matter?

[keen arch]

can you onyx the dragon statues now?

[simple wadi]

It does not, Vick

[orchid moss]

wdym

yes if you have c15

[simple wadi]

You were always able to onyx the statues.

[solar seal]

the inevitable folow up question is: did you remember to golden it first?

[keen arch]

i drop 20k and it wont take

oh

[trim wren]

lol

[keen arch]

derp

[trim wren]

Welp, for now it goes to hole jail

I'll think about it later

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, I had the "missing" statues after depositing from other characters blunder too

[fiery cape]

Tip for other people just getting here for Divinity: while the guide does say that maxing out EXP from styles is not the way to get out of Div Jail, don’t forget that the ES talent exists, and that just Chakra alone doubles your points

[pastel kayak]

Done all the rift now

[bleak gazelle]

Chakra is just straight up better than kinesis, I'd hope you would remember to swap to it

[frozen oyster]

do you guys just make amarok gear for all your non pushers?

[peak verge]

Early on that used to be the case but now I think amarok can just carry you all the way up to the point where you can switch to troll.

[peak verge]

what am I looking at brother

lookin' like a 5yr old tried to dress up his doll 😭

[languid locust]

he lowk got ts on tho

[bleak gazelle]

one is bob

[peak verge]

fake louis, fake gucci, at least the cartier bracelets be real

[solar seal]

i wait for the day this meme backfires on ace and we have someone who imitates his gear and asks why their dmg is so low for kruk

[bleak gazelle]

wdym, I have the copper set for that

forever preserved
https://altcow.idleonefficiency.com/

[peak verge]

gotta prefarm lvl 500 for kruk

[bleak gazelle]

I guess the 2 fomo items are a bit much

wouldn't have needed them for es/dk though

[peak verge]

gotta put the carrot necklace back on

[pastel kayak]

Still stalking you in world 6 @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

gonna be here for a long time

[pastel kayak]

My alts not up to that level yet they was doing the rift which I done it all now

[proper solstice]

2 more

[warm steppe]

why does my villager exp fluctuate at most i lose 25% but its back to about 85% now

[bleak gazelle]

granted, if you're checking on some super low level character, it could be bigger idk

[nocturne patrol]

up vial u get with equinox mat seem painful

[warm steppe]

oo i c

[bleak gazelle]

i can't remember what the other villager one scales with, might also be tome, too

[proper solstice]

yooo

[dawn iris]

It was slab

[proper solstice]

nearing 300m now !

[dawn iris]

I should fix my slab sometime

[peak verge]

Every time you login or cloudsave, go check your statue, in case you deposited statues. There's some fucky stuff going on and it might not register some statue levels until you check it manually.

[warm steppe]

that was it thanks was losing out on quite a bit

[proper solstice]

question does this cap at 1bil bits like the other items do w/ their mats?

or does it cap later due to the item type

[orchid moss]

i believe it doesnt cap

[cloud flame]

doesnt cap

[peak verge]

Bit bubbles do not cap.

[proper solstice]

shame, still pretty good tho

Im not gonna focus on leveling them past 1m cost for a while anyways(my bits have better uses like upgrading my bits gains, or saving to unlock a new import(what im doing rn))

[wild onyx]

is it typical to be stuck hunting one artifact for several weeks

[orchid moss]

yes

[wild onyx]

i'm still pretty early into sailing but it feels like it's been a hot minute

[orchid moss]

its just rng

[cloud flame]

if you dont have ghampters beanstalked, yea

depends on what rarity youre going for tho

[wild onyx]

i don't even have stalk purchased, let alone 10k golden hampters

[orchid moss]

can you get double proc if you have over 100% on hampters?

[wild onyx]

this mf been taking me forever (island 3)

[cloud flame]

anything under sovereign shouldnt take that long

[proper solstice]

same

I might just dump all boats onto it

[cloud flame]

especially if your boats are 2hrs

[proper solstice]

and get it faster

[cloud flame]

uhh not sure

[wild onyx]

i've had all boats running it always, i just finish each island one at a time

[orchid moss]

thats the idea

[cloud flame]

i imagine not tho

[fast stirrup]

whats this for?

[orchid moss]

gives buffs based on total highest waves of td

[proper solstice]

Ive started spreading my boats out rn for mats but most on first island bc I wanna increase my arti chance

[cloud flame]

you need lvl 3 construction arm for it i believe

[fast stirrup]

Ahhh

[cloud flame]

id personally focus on 1 island

[proper solstice]

I got 2/4 ancient

just 1 of them isnt one I wanted(moai)

[orchid moss]

getting to totalizer before lvl 3 auto arm is wild

world rushing going crazy

[cloud flame]

its possible

[fast stirrup]

ty ty

[proper solstice]

soon!

[cloud flame]

i got the tusk last for every single rarity.

[proper solstice]

Oof that sucks

[cloud flame]

very much.

[proper solstice]

5hrs

[orchid moss]

if none of my boats are fast enough to do next island in 2 hrs should I just farm loot to upgrade?

[peak verge]

or sailing speed

[cloud flame]

if you dont have max tier artifacts on previous islands, yea id say so

[wild onyx]

i think it's just a lack of focus, as an also relatively new player

[proper solstice]

yea thats what im doing, or try to level up your AD

[cerulean creek]

I tried this now that I am home and unfortunately still has not given me the achievement 😭

[cloud flame]

lvl sailing speed from yellow bubbles and god blessings as well tho

[orchid moss]

im missing like 1 eldritch

[solar seal]

while you can't double up on the hampter proc, the po box or the bubble can proc - you can get 2 sailing procs on afk at once - it is quite stupid -- its how endgamers have years of sailing time accrued

[orchid moss]

and i dont have sov yet

[cloud flame]

also lvl this stamp

[cloud flame]

go for it

[proper solstice]

free dmg for you based on your highest wave once u unlock the MSA other bonuses later but it starts w/ just dmg

[solar seal]

are you making sure it is changing which character is shown?

[cerulean creek]

yeah I will double check again though

[solar seal]

i haven't seen people have issues after doing this trick, if you still do - i'm out of options for ya sorry

[fast stirrup]

lol just pushed on DK active hes lvl 400 now the rest 170 ish

[proper solstice]

I swear imma get 30 refinery rank b4 I get 20 gstacks

[cerulean creek]

actually I got it to work sorry lol I guess i had to scroll down to my character lol thank you a bunch!

[cloud flame]

you kinda have to go out of your way for those 20 gstacks tbf

[proper solstice]

I am currently getting all logs up to veiny gstacked along w/ some other things I can gstack in a reasonable time frame

I dont have chest space for shop items or I could go for those

[orchid moss]

i finally finished the party dungeon stat dream

😹

[cloud flame]

aye nice, i did that one like a week ago as well

[proper solstice]

you maxed it already?

[cloud flame]

shouldve done it months ago but oh well.

[proper solstice]

what is the stat dream? im not there yet

[orchid moss]

5 flurbo stats maxed

[cloud flame]

max 5 flurbo stats

[proper solstice]

by the time I unlock it ill have it completed

[proper solstice]

thats easy

[wild onyx]

is it worth doing 20 checkout maxes if my vip level isn't near the 200 cap

[cloud flame]

i also get lvl 100 megacrit 1st try lol

[proper solstice]

Im like 50% there already

[cloud flame]

not really

unless its some important tallent

[orchid moss]

bruh my next dream is gonna be w3 party dungeon

[keen trellis]

You can’t 20 checkout vip books

[orchid moss]

[proper solstice]

can someone explain how to make the harp go a bit faster?

[orchid moss]

level up your strings

[proper solstice]

besides getting more strings(im 1/3rd to one)

you can level the strings themselves?

[orchid moss]

and upgrade the measurer buff

[orchid moss]

when you pluck them they get exp

[proper solstice]

or these?

[keen trellis]

The notes I think

[cloud flame]

one of the strings lvls makes it faster

[proper solstice]

how do I get him?

[cloud flame]

i think its the 3rd one

[orchid moss]

yea the one that does nothing except lvl bonus

[proper solstice]

cave 8?

[cloud flame]

no, the 3rd note letter thing on the harp

[wild onyx]

sorry i used bad terminology, i just meant the library in general

[proper solstice]

oh ok so I need engie lvl then

[cloud flame]

this but the 3rd one

[solar seal]

the bell and bravery also have good bonuses for harp

although, bravery's harp bonus is quite far in

[proper solstice]

im not super focused on the hole

this is my bravery(yes im just focusing the bonuses for bucket and xp gain rn)

well I check it daily

I just dont use chars to idle at it

[cloud flame]

id recommend at least doing some bravery hrs

[proper solstice]

div jail

[cloud flame]

id say a bit of bravery is still worth your time rn tho

[bleak gazelle]

taking 1.5 days to afk till 300 is worth it

[halcyon sorrel]

Whats the recommended min idle time at bravery?

[cloud flame]

its free stats daily, it doesnt hurt to invest at least a bit

[bleak gazelle]

especially since you're not actually trying to push through w5

[proper solstice]

true

[cloud flame]

exactly, 300 is a big damage spike via engineer schematic

[bleak gazelle]

i'd say 300 hours since it gives you rethrows

[proper solstice]

I assume itll also help me reach 30 total opals?

34.375 hrs

till 300 hrs in monument w/ 8 chars

that one char is still grinding out deathnote for vman unlock

hes 4 away(about the same amount of time left too lmao)

[feral torrent]

I guess I'll toss my 8 characters on it

[latent bridge]

I might need an explanation to how jars work

like i produce a jar type but some are bigger than others

and there are 3 slots i can produce jars in

But only 1 is available

[bleak gazelle]

schematics, to both questions

[latent bridge]

Alr then

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle you not I hiding in world 6 now

[bleak gazelle]

i'm back on minichiefs

[wraith portal]

how do you get the minor bonus's?

[cloud flame]

just link to it

[wraith portal]

my accuracy didnt change

[cloud flame]

reset the map/cloud save

[wraith portal]

nothing, let me check again with defence

Nope, doesnt change

[fast pine]

Is it validates to buy conjuring points or are you throwing your gems away?

[cloud flame]

hmm, couldnt think of why other than that the buff is just too small to be visible

[wraith portal]

1.1% of 2362 defence, or 48.1k accuracy

[terse verge]

Do you happen to own doot?

[fallow aurora]

divinity level 1, so it shouldn't matter

[terse verge]

That’s exactly why it would matter

[wraith portal]

nope

i do have that cavern thing for binding to two gods or something another

[cloud flame]

if you have shebatsu connected on it then yea, its just always active.

[terse verge]

If you had it set to snake already - then linking again with the main link wouldnt give bonus again

[cloud flame]

that would explain it then

[wraith portal]

ah, i didnt think of this when i asked lol

But to clarify, if i get the next god, the lab one, i can link to it here and not have to sacrifice characters to lab or divinity jail?

[terse verge]

They simply act like they are in lab for mere purpose of keeping lab notes lit up - you still need to do the appropriate jails for the levels

[wraith portal]

fair enough, death note for w1/2/3 for vm atm is eating alot of time so i want that already then they can go to jail either way XD

[signal maple]

is there a max enchant on collectibles in jars?

[stable parrot]

I think its +8 now

[void shell]

How long have you been doing it for

[stable parrot]

used to be no limit

[misty sandal]

useless if doot right?

[void shell]

Then 1 guy connect to purrmep

[cloud flame]

the pocket div thing from hole?

it gives 15% all stats (30% when lvld up) for doot havers

[signal maple]

is this confirmed?

[hardy cradle]

I forgot I had taken this and did a bad crop back when we got this message... I think a few days before Tradable pets

[cloud flame]

before hole

[wraith portal]

oh a week or so off and on

[signal maple]

i might be blind but i didnt see anything in the tips n tricks section

[void shell]

How's the progress

[hardy cradle]

It was before Tradable Pets or before new Caverns, but it was there anyway

[wraith portal]

slow, 6 chars, maestro at green mushrooms cause you need 12m kills himself on it, and hes at 3.5m started at 200k, 4 done in w1 so far

[hardy cradle]

What is the point of God Ranks again?

[stable parrot]

no, jarmaggedoners were reset to all enchants lvl 8, and now enchants scaling is much harder, just looked a little bit into it

[wraith portal]

i blitzed through 1/2/3, spent most of my time in 4 sadly

[stable parrot]

.05x blessing per lvl and more div xp

[cloud flame]

some extra damage via ES tallent as well

[hardy cradle]

Ah, seems legit

[cloud flame]

and something somehow even more useless from jade emporium

[hardy cradle]

Well, good to know though I'm a bit behind on that

[void shell]

I'm thinking maybe you should put it off for now, maybe reconsider when you at least have nobisect and slightly higher damage. Even if you got him now, you wouldn't be able to utilise him well

[wraith portal]

nobisect?

[void shell]

3rd god

[hardy cradle]

As in, still have to unlock Kruk and Bagur before I can actually do the funny God Ranks

[obtuse forge]

fake buffs

[void shell]

Once you can clear the quest in under a week, you can go for it

[hardy cradle]

Nobisect counts for the kills needed on Maestro?

Dang, now I definitely feel goofier that I did unlock Vman while being in W4

[wraith portal]

not a bad idea, but i mean all the others would simply been grinding divinity points i suppose

[void shell]

More div points is always great

[hardy cradle]

Hold, doesn't that mean that any low person with Jocund also gets faster Vman unlock?

[void shell]

Yes

[nocturne patrol]

when is next class uwu

[void shell]

If you have jocund or samurai, you basically have an express pass into 2 different grinds

[hardy cradle]

Don't forget Capybara

That's Lab AND Div multi

[void shell]

Jocund for deathnote and portal pushing, Samurai for hole progress

[void shell]

I mean, sure but it's no where as powerful

[wraith portal]

And if i have both XD

or all 3 actually

[void shell]

Then hope you know how to play the game

[hardy cradle]

stares at needing the 3rd God to speed up Vman unlock

[wraith portal]

dont hope for long

[hardy cradle]

On a side note, technically it's "easier" to get Vman now

[void shell]

You don't need it, it's just a nice bonus.

[hardy cradle]

A mix of Nobisect, Jocund, and Vault if you're crazy enough

[stable parrot]

dont worry about rushing vman, you need enough account foundation for him to be useful

[void shell]

His bonuses can't do anything if you have nothing for him to build off

[keen trellis]

World 5 class minimum fr

[wraith portal]

oh im not rushing, i just am doing it in the meantime while my dk pushes w5

[hardy cradle]

You better have your BB helping in that Deathnote collection, since they also need the kills anyway

[wraith portal]

oh beserker, why?

[hardy cradle]

Blood Berserker, not calling it DB in case you haven't reached W6 yet

Because remember that from Barbarian onwards, they get their kill bonuses

Zows, Chows, Super Chows, and Wows

[misty sandal]

it does nothing on my end for the divinity bonus

[hardy cradle]

Pretty sure one guy to Purrmep DOES matter, even with Doot

[nocturne patrol]

only keychain needed for a craft is the golden bobpicckle ?