#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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You can have multiple strings on the same note.
you underestimate my power
alright, your account lvl?
1001!
too low
Lowkey... So many buffs and stuff were added in the past year or so, I can see it being almost doable. At least before the w7 reworks.
a little over 10% of the way there
nearly there bud ^^
maybe.
also W7 seems to be alot about chess.
We know nothing about w7 yet, wuh?
oh......
no
The chess stuff was cavern 14.
but i only reached cavern 7, so, halfway there
oh....... i thought it was W7 alredy XDDDDDDDDDD
imagine if w7 is all about connect four
we don't know when does w7 release either
ohhhhhhhh no.......
watch W7 come right after i reach W6 and finally do the skills and stuff XDDDDDDD
9chars at 1000 and a 999char
it would be so nice to be at w6 boss when it drops, was at w4 when w6 released
Lava said next world will have a focus on character levels as a new grind
everyone loves class levels that sounds awesome
when?
we can finally reach account lvl 9999 XDDDDDDDD
wait, he said that?
Yes
as i said, we don't know when it releases
Likely grind time bubble nerfs
It was on his stream yesterday
Last night on stream
oh 
Basically w7 will have a lot more class xp buffs to accommodate the vision.
So it's not just GT spam
THERE WAS A STREAM LAST NIGHT?!?!?!
Iโd imagine w7 is gonna be after a couple elite classes
Yes, stream about new update
couple new master classes*
was there free stuff? ๐๐
Lots
so..... tell me... how do i turn on twitch notifs? ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Click follow?
lots of people didnt get the free stuff though was super annoying rofl
why.
what should i do with that
Your best. 
i dont know
lava didnt really explain it he just says the server decides whos worthy of free pet reset and who is not
How do you unlock monument of justice? I have returned on a different character an hour later and he hasn't unlocked yet. I'm not sure how I unlocked bravery the first time.
a free pet reset?
i think only the pepols that wore online when the update was
i was on, thats not it
level up your explorer villager to lvl 10
yeah
He is, monument says return 1 hr later on a different character but hasn't unlocked when I do
uhhhhhhhhhh pretty sure thats not what it said?
What is the best way for getting villager exp?
it said use a different character then return 1 hour later?
just because people are offline dosent mean they are banned.
"Show some respect if you wish to stand before me... swap to a different character, and return to this one after 1 hour"
probably general or w3w4 chat?
Oh wait do I have to leave the character here?
they are not on the server anymore
yep, they got banned XDDDDDD
oh wow wtf
from what i can see anyway, my discord is probably tripping
@ceredia maybe name changed?

maybe zeus is ceredia
nooooo.
maybe, idk, i haven't unlocked cavern 10 either though, will take months for me
nah unlikely
thats exactly what ceredia would say ๐ง
wdymmmmmmmm
lmao
how can i reset my opals?
Lamp wish
what should i get
majik??? XDDDDDD
pins, there's a hole guide with the majik section for priority
ok thx
does the monoument hour stack, eg do u lose it after a match?
Idleon if u don't have doot for pocket divinity
you keep the bonuses unlocked through hours, the story matches are a seperate timer of real world hours
anyway, i better go to sleep, it's 11:08 p.m in Malaysia where i live, see y'all tomorrow
im going to spend money on idleon just because of the new pets XDDDDDD
have a good one wordy
that 10X dmg bonus seems GREAT.
damage doesn't really matter later on
you should give me them:) jk trade them for the others
ye its really good early to mid game
if youre dps checked out of anything its nice
i dont have them yet. i need to gather up the bills.
gl
thx.
that golem pet unlocked rift 46 for me ๐ฅฒ self healing monster was dps checking me
i would give you tips on how to open but it depend on the amount
Might be a dumb question but Im seeing alot of people doing the new caverns areas. For me to level to lvl 14 i need like 6264M xp, this seems really high, is this amount correct ?
im pretty sure if you don't wanna be there for the next trillion years of ur life you might wanna get samurai
what class is best to farm Gloomie mushroom cards?
SB
i have samurai, my xp is 34M an hour but seems like a long time for next cavern then even longer for the next
are people just refunding all opals and sending all to explorer
yes, new caverns give new ways to get opals
snail is new to me, at what point do i want to do the bottom one and not risk the top
not sure how many opals or what other levels you have though, at your point, Equal Spread might be better
people who pushed to 14/15 are in the 100s of M to B
double xp from gemshop, one of the event star point multipliers, bundle, arcade multi, high statue and monuments levels get them there
i currently running 120-20-10-10-20 but guess i just need to wait
up to lvl 15
Do I do Chakra or focus for every character?
hit level up till 15
how do people get so many opals, i could get a bit more from motherload/hive but bravery never gives me any, justice will give me a few here and there and not able to get a nymore from the hounds
ty
Should I try 
no
you should buy the one from atoms tho so it ownt reset per 5 levels
i personally only gamble on 50%'s
i had that long before i got snail
oh ok, i do have it but its only level 1
bruhhhh 393 just for a 25% chance
now its 2 but cant afford more
dont worry it gets worse
Let's go gambling
also forgot to mention this. if you got this you can do just lvl up till lvl 15
Should I do the second or third style?
is there tutorial on the pet arena?
I reached w5 without auto loot๐ซก
Success 
I assume it's when the game updates
but im playing the game right now
Happened to me in the Last one
its not telling me to update too
Check the thing u use to update the game
Sometimes it just crashes without explanation
Well then idk
is it worth making the diabolical armor?
Should I use Chakra or focus on all my characters? https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity
Chakra is 2x points 2x exp
Focus is 4x points 1x exp
use focus until you have all the main gods
wouldn't it be easier to level and get a better style for that?
it's the best style for points
Oh
pray for better rng next time
Isnt it supposed to give me one of the new ones?
I'll give you a new banner pet
no idea
if you have 5 characters on chakra all 10 characters get 5 xp
Which one do you want? Don't have tradeable Golem, samurai, or jocund though
Maybe lava will fix the banner grabbing from legacy eventually
@crisp lagoon
Talk about Mr brightside
thermister rip off ahh mob
Actually i have nothing in mind i just wanted a new pet lol
Check the bonuses and see which would be most beneficial to you
Or just one you like the look of ig
Just a sec then
Is current Hole strategy just to put all opals into explorer?
The worm would be great
Best char to farm deathbote scores?
The highest at damage i guess
And have the best multikill
sb
Well to benefit from the kills the blood berserker would be good
sb cuz beeg damage=beeg multikill and higher afk gains
Dang i didnt know that lol
bb can work cuz ur farming with multiple chars at the same time anyways
i assume
cuz i did thats as well lol
Balloon 17
K
depends on how many opals and what your villager levels are. if you're in the 10-100s and all villagers need levels, then probably best to spread and use Equal Spread conjuror bonus
though might be best to rush c11 if you don't have that, so you can at least start collecting rupies
Is the study bonus per level additive or multiplicaitve? Im guessing additive right
is it better to afk or active divinity?
and is there a way to boost exp gains besides different styles? (i only have 1. style)
considering active doesn't work, i'd say afk 
-# same as lab and cooking
oh ok interesting
does cranium cooking work on sigils?
i dont believe so no
bruh
it stops progress on sigils
lmao
ok now that's just sad
Here's all the div xp modifiers, at the beginning, the only ones you really have access to are the ES talent and the gemshop
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=^(%3F!.*(pearl)).*divinity.*xp
Search every bonus in Idleon!
i don't understand how to get green rupees i only get red ones in jars
So, make simple jars, stockpile 100 red, then you can get green rupies
If you ever drop below 100 red rupies, then you will only get red rupies
(if you have enough jars built, you can potentially get to 100 red again and get green and maybe even blue all from a single break)
Is the only way to not be water starved to get my bubo up and running T_T
unless you're talking distilled water, then you could farm w3 mobs
5 layers of any skilling cavern fyi
so you could split 2/2/1, for instance
I just need to get my bubbles up since I rushed w6 Iโm always running out of liquid
then yes, bubo
but also make sure your pay2win tab is maxed
throw people into liquid cauldrons if necessary
buy bleach cauldrons from gem shop
upgrade stamp and vials
Yea I get like 18 a hour I also have been avoiding really upping the rate and cap so I guess I should also do that too
Just been trying to hard focus all my bubbles as much as I can
probably don't need to upgrade on the cauldron unless it's leftover liquid after upgrading bubbles
other stuff should be enough
Sup guys! Does the wisdom monument at cavern not work yet?
Feel like once I get my sailing up for the artifact to push tenteyecle 200 I should be good to start active
honestly, if you're lacking liquids, just cc once a day when it's off cd
can i put my Chip-chip and Red-chip on character 1, snapshot
switch to char 2, equip chips on c2, snapshot
-> c3, equip c3, snapshot
...
can 2 chips be equiped on all characters simultaniously using snapshot?
a bit backwards, move chips before claiming afk
only reason you'd need them on before going afk is to check rates
potato chip may also not be necessary for afk, as attack speed is capped to 20% for afk
there's a meal and bubble that give attack speed, as well
wow
Iโm sitting on 160 opals and it gives me around 17 mil villager exp. Are bravery & justice multipliers really the big ones? ๐ฅฒ
is fibers of absence good for speedrunning?
i definitely want balance of pain though right
ok bet, time to speedrun again
yes and no. with the new multis (especially on justice) you can get some pretty crazy numbers, though the bonuses are additive
here's all the multis I can think of: gemshop 2x, gemshop bundle, event multi, arcade multi, samurai multi
Oh true! The samurai is a big one as well
cloud save/refresh map
-# like nearly everything in this game if you don't think it's working
im just wondering if i had a unlimited budget and i wanted to get to world 5 as fast as humanly possible lets say i had a team of players in w7 all giving me tips what time do u think is possible can u get there in 1 day?
Any guide for the new gambit bonus yet?
@bleak gazelle got a few new meals yesterday
Candies, so yes
thats crazy
I should max this huh
do I reroll these
Should i get chizoar armor this week or do a few more grinding to get troll armor
unlimited budget yeah, gemshop bundles + fomo shop carry hard, though don't think you can roll them all in a single day. and time candies, like stated. ES should be easiest to get damage on
long term troll makes more sense
can someone do an ie review on my acc, i just wanna know how to increase my damage (currently sitting on 1b)
Yup
what does this roll into? (i didnt make this I found it)
woo 61 portals
11
the things you do for +1% DR ๐ญ
1% is 1%
im guessing this turns into 8%
i should unlock the skill mastery thing
bruh
ok for being a 4.5 gold ball evernt and rolling like 400 balls from extra balls this was dissapointing
I got like around 70k balls
how
mine caps out tho
i swear somewhere it says there a cap of x amount of bakks
???
if it helps i launched my 1.5k balls the day before bonus
idk I might've gotten something that removes the cap
how many gballs
no idea sorry some 2.5k or something
completely forgot
when was the last cosmic event?
les go gambling
got a couple maxed gball upgrades I wanna double ๐ค
real
Can you move jewel?
purple what stats
oh
i see
since ur already here, what does that roll into
.
no more after purple
.
you can roll obols into higher stats
oh shit you can?
this can roll anywhere from 4% - 6%
i think the max on sparkle dice obol is 16%
i had no idea
when I ask what it can roll into, im just asking what the highest roll is
How do you get blue rupees?
lmg you knew if you max one obol and put it on the left in combine the upgraded version will be maxed out?
just didnt know what was considered maxed 
just reached world 5, do you guys think that Biggole Mole is better than Crystal Custard
w h a t
they are pets
companion?
grrrrrrrrrrr
If you have both, you get their bonus anyways
i don't need to have them equipped?
No
if you are considering trading, you dont lose em, they just become untradable
You just have to own them
great, thank you all
go touch it
do you have your gold ball upgrade maxed? 
nah not yet
actually no, cosmic ball 
but i feel like i usually get like 600 for for 50 balls
but i could just have bad memory
I've almost never gambled unless there was an event
after vman does any grind take 100s of hours of candy?
vman took 100s of candies? 
hours
made the new character and sending him straight to jail
how do you get silver balls in arcade
time, killroy, gemshop
I think mine was around like 70 for the first quest and another 30 for 2nd part
still haven't even gotten maestro on alt account 
alt on idelon is wild
maestro is so slow
when does endgame actually start?
still candy recovering from vman
when you finished the game
pain
lol
i'd say early game starts at like w5 
ngl early w6
you can fly through w1-5 in a week or 2
Is it more efficient to active SB or afk anyone at shrooms
Also how do you get blue rupees
w5 is just get 3rd god and get tf out of there
3rd god? did ytou forget goat
How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Villager Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message
Active farm on a Siegebreaker with plunder setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with anyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746
Expect afk claim times in the 45 minute range for 30x DR, 2 hours for 20x, 3 hours for 12x
TL;DR - More DR equals shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim.
-# Note: times untested after drop chance change
Neat, thanx
https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/ @bleak gazelle not sure how many more new meals can get right now
Fucking peak villager statue. Went from 12M/hr to 40m/hr.
all these that are highlighted you have the spices for. soda, especially should help
nice, what level?
109 for now.
I feel like I'm behind in terms of villager xp but I don't know. Last time I came about it all I got was "I mean buy the 2x from gem shop" and that gave me a good boost but I still only get like 3m/hr, idk if that's bad or not
(no samurai, low villager statue, and 116 opals)
I have like 150 opals so that's definitely a bit on the low side.
I put one of my alts in the kitchen @bleak gazelle
i want to put db back on cooking so much... but then its not grinding bones
you understand how engineer works with the bucket fill rate and swords buffs? caverns confused me so damn bad, what helped me start my gains was learning about the bucket and getting engineer schematics
I know about the sword buff with gold dust, but idk what you mean by fill rate boost
so long as you understand how to purchase schematics youre good, i didnt understand the bucket and was capped out so was making no progress
like for expanding bars
Spine was confused about how the hole works in general, you're only asking about villager xp, dw about it.
xD
Lmaoo
Test
Try to up your harp and bell gains so you can upgrade Measurements, pick villager xp in bravery/justice monuments as well as monument multi bonuses, eventually they kinda stack up.
I did just reset my bell but I think it'll improve from here
How can I increase my exp for village to 100m+?
I'm doing 10m max with 140 opals
There's another guy with the same amount of opals and he doing 100m exp
Murder them all
I don't have that
If you wait half an hour I can send mine if no one has helped
i wish theres a tiiiight trophy from colosseum quests
Leave no coliseum enemy alive
Damn you got The whole squad laughing
Then don't expect the same results as others. 
Every cell in my body is urging me to explode
I had 12M until I got onyx villager statue and some levels in it. Got bumped to 40M. Rest is just xp bonuses piling up from monuments and the such.
Well I'm missing some bonuses from Bravery and I'm currently on onyx villager
So then keep working on those
Justice is the bulk of my xp I think, since it's a lot easier to get justice multi bonuses to affect it.
Or go into hibernation
Have u the enchanted collectable ?
That boosts exp for villagers
I have it normal I still haven't unlocked echantables yet
uhhhh, I have the default for 20%? But that got me up to 10M, I was lower beforehand.
I'm back to playing after awhile, I'm on a different account early W5, should I try to get to cavern asap? I have no clue how to play it, should I be a certain level?
also vilager xp in the arcade
Righhht so I can assume we're on the same track except you're ahead quite a bit
I forgot I bought 100 balls now u reminded me
No level requirement. Also I think you can just teleport to caverns from the get-go, unless that got changed.
Thanks
I think you can just open the map and go to it, bottom right of w5
I've been sitting on divinity
Ohh yeah thanks I didn't realize.
Otherwise I'd try the cavern out
you should definitely start the cavern so youre collecting resources
your harp and bell could have hundred thousand resources in them when you return
how do i get more villager xp
from the PIN
Villagers gain XP based on the amount of Opals invested into them, this is passive XP/time.
There's various multipliers that increase the amount of XP they gain, such as Schematics, Gemshop, Conjure Bonus, various cavern rewards and more.
Justice, bravery, opals, arcade, statues, hole stuff, gem shop and more i cant remember
What the pig doing๐
Scroll up, it was being discussed for like 20 mins.
Pigtler
Let go invade pigland
I officially don't understand jars. For example, why does this value go down even though I've changed/bought nothing?
Which god gave the 2x portal kills?
misqito
Mantis
If we have already the highest rarity, what's the point of the x1000 artefacts chance ?
Does the progress work for every character
And why does this value go up and down even though I've changed/bought nothing
Throwing coins
Which one is that
No the hand gestures
as long as it go up it dont matter
Yes, throwing coins
Reminds me of painter from austria
its account wide yeah, saay you unlocked a cavern on your first character you could enter the new cavern on your 6th character
Because of this but I think there's a fucky wucky and it also scales with the same jar itself, on top of the previous one. (that's why the first jar also gets a reduced cost below 1000)
It does matter, because it was at 69 last night now it's 45.3. If I knew what's changing it, I could ensure it's always going up.
This?
did u use some rupies? becasue there is an schetmatic that increase rupies gained depending on amount?
Haven't invested in that in a couple of days and the value continues to change
But you got more studies done, no?
Oh right, that's a thing ๐ค
Considering you have far more invested in the red rupie measurement, I'm sure you've made more simple jars than me. But I have lower max value for simple jars ๐ค
Idk if there's any buffs or stuff from later caverns to help with jars. Otherwise I don't feel like I did that many simple jars, maybe just got lucky with multi rupees or something.
Can always write it down for ๐ code. 
True
when you unlock the mushroom cavern should you take characters off bravery and put them in gloomie cavern?
It'd help if Lava would put a spot in that tells us how many jars we've made
Probably briefly to get onyx'd villager exp statue.
Highly subjective, depending on what else you have left to do, what your drop rate is, your multikill, stuff like that.
i see i see ok gonna full send it
At ~22-24x DR I got like 2.5k statues per 5 hours. At 32x DR I got about 7-9k per 10 hours.
will split 8 characters between bravery and the c9 hole
You're spreading yourself too thin.
so 7 on bravery 1 on shrooms?
I thought you just said you were going to full send it? In what world is splitting the party a "full send"?
You're likely not getting anything worth the time with 1 guy on shrooms. I just have a feel your stats aren't quite there yet. 
well originally had 4 guys on bravery and 6 characters not in the hole so full send would be taking all cavern characters from bravery to c9
Did you finish your divinity?
I disagree with Delgado. All 8 chrs on mushrooms for like two days.
that sounds like a good idea, on divinity im at purrmeep
What's your average drop rate?
How many hours in justice before I switch to maxing out Bravery. I heard there is a best point to pause justice
Why couldn't it have been me
750/2000 hours but I wouldn't bother maxxing bravery as a priority personally. Stop at 10k and then either do something else or max out justice.
2000 justice - > 10000 bravery - > max justice or do something else? Is this the right order?
What exactly is monument afk?
Increases the hours you gain from AFKing at a monument.
Ah alr
So if you have 20% monument AFK, if you AFK for 100 hours you'll get 120 hours of AFK time.
750 bravery -> 750/2000 justice -> lowkey up to you from here since they're both massive time investments.
10k bravery or max justice. Christ knows what the new monument is gonna be about, shit might get skewered even more.
Monument afk is for when you feel like you can't get anything else more worth while from afk-ing somewhere else (i.e. pushing, gmush, divinity, lab etc.)
I finished w6 pushing. So monuments seem nice now
Did you finish lab?
Anyone know how to increase SB plunder farm for the achievement? My flag is capped at like 100pts
Ooops
It's not capped at 100 points. You're guaranteed a plunder every time you hit 100 points.
Should realistically be a lot faster to do and more useful to get those jewels.
the achievement takes weeks, there's no way around it. its roughly 20k/day @ citringes
I have 0 justice and 750 bravery. So I should catch up a little. Right?
Yea i'm trying to figure out how to break through to get to 150pts on the flag but i clearly just don't understand the mechanic at all 
Isn't justice just shit at 0 hours?
i think you need to read your talents again
Yeah, throw some hours at justice so you can start raking up some nice bonuses from it too.
Leave bravery at 750 for now?
Make sure vman talent isn't boosting, or at 100 you'll spawn and take 25 away
Ty ty
Duck are you going for this brother?
ooh nvm you aren't trying for the 1m but the other achievement. turn off vman enhance
Ugh I want to do motherlode now that its required value is lower from studying, but I don't want to take my warriors off of wisdom monument ><
are you not planning to use omni ?
Omni?
Hang on for a smidge longer.
Oh I thought he wants the biggest monument afk% bang for his buck, that's why he's waiting.
unless you want to get more monument afk until wisdom release
Yeah I know, haha
Why would anyone even vote for the first option? It was a ridiculous question.
Too far behind to make use of the new caverns maybe?
anything important here?
Iโm more interested to see what on earth the class is gonna be if it takes 30 days
is it normal i only get 2 divinity xp an hour?
If you just started divinity, yes.
I mean how long do you think it takes to design a new class?
He said that every master class is going to have an active mechanic like DB's bones, so I'm sure he's having to design an entirely new currency system for it.
when?
Mentioned it during his stream when DB came out
BM finally making it out of the hood with this one. ๐ ๐
Well Iโd assume theyโre not all gonna be EXACTLY like DB in the way of just active afk for bonuses but DB was like 2.5 weeks development ish?
The other week and a half is gonna be for testing the class. 
he changed his mind
Okay
Rip BM, stay broke lil homie.
but bm is so fun
Bowel movements are fun, yes
db*
BM aka big malarkey, amirite.
a lot of people didn't like it which is why he changed his mind
tbh the numbers should've just been slightly buffed (or the requirements nerfed)
i dont get what theres not to like about it, gravestone moves randomly have to babysit that upgrades are very far apart, all around good time
and the lack of talent points for a start was rather rough
more good points
DB needs fixed anyway. Either have to place the stone yourself every few mins or afk on specific maps
Both are very much possible rn.
placing stone the same way as shrine would be amazing
like if it would just stay permanent
Possible, but with the obscene bones req to level... would be nice to farm on maps that give more bones overnight
who is willing to trqde with me pets
I kinda need a lot of the really common ones
like green mushroom and bloque and frog
I will give something better in return
No one cares about your halloween mask collection on OSRS
what?
thanks
anyone got a pic of the gambit bonuses after trim and wiz lvl
I'm not really sure what this is talking about
c12
ah thanks im only up to 11
wot
How are people getting crazy exp for caverns? Got onyx villager statue at level 140ish. W/ 40 opals not even breaking 2m per hr, can't reset until daily wishes
efficency needed, 9k though @feral torrent
monuments buffs as well
Lot more opals.
just reached c11 but im only level 17 engi, 1.15m xp/hr so c12 is 206 hours away but engi 18 is 56 hours away
It's at 2300 levels, choose that whenever it pops up
surprised you have so few opals, i only have 1000 villager statues deposited, not onyx at all but have 90 opals
are you neglecting hive/motherlode/shroomie colony/dawg den?
what are some ways to get time candies
giants, daily bosses
I have 150 total, only 40 on explore til I can reset
aka Are you neglecting everything? 
ah was gonna say XD
its nice now im up to 6.5 wishes per day, i might actually start spending them on not resets
the only way you'll see the crazy high numbers is by dumping onto a single villager, however if you don't have any (currently) maxed villagers, it may be better to make use of Equal Spread conjuror bonus
for equal spread do you just spread as evenly as possible
oh no, new conjuror bonus? i already severely lack points
How do people reach higher levels of villagers? My explorer has 70 gems invested which is a huge number for me and I'm at level 12. Getting to level 13 will take me several weeks.
samurai I think
I have a question about the well, I don't need to AFK there right? I just select either collect or remove rock layer then I can just leave.
correct
ok, thanks
it only expands when ur online tho
More xp and more opals.
oh
not sure, endgame hasn't delved into it too much since they had enough xp/lanterns to already max 2-3 villagers and make it not worthwhile. Equal Spread seems like a catchup mechanic but it's not in the place for it (sidenote: updoot my suggestion #player-suggestions message)
I've seen some that spread completely evenly and some that focused on explorer (or other farthest behind villager) and went lighter on the others 
yea what im doing rn is 50 in explorer and 30 in everyone else
where is this equal spread you speak of? is it deeper into the blue majik?
but im also low on conj points so i havent maxed the bonus yet
it's hte last blue one
yeah, that's the problem, it's so far in the tree idk how worth it it is
yea
(so go upvote my suggestion to swap its location)
heck, Would yall suggest removing lengthmeister and moving to equal spread?
what level is your explorer at?
11 now just reached it today
11/17/19/8 are my levels
side note, the measurer bonus for villager xp feels absolutely worthless
hard to say, measurements also have two villager xp upgrades...you'd still need another point or two to max it out 
In a void, yes. However this is not a game about individual major upgrades, it's about a bunch of small incremental upgrades piling up into big numbers.
yeah but i put a level into the villager xp gain and i swear it didnt even give 100 xp
Is chizoar armor worth getting in w5?
Ye i was referring to that
then yes, especially since the scarf got buffed, and im guessing youre a way off troll armour still
I havent pushed the first map of w5 at all
Doing div jail rn
chizoar helm is still giving me slightly more damage than the magma headdress
no kruk helm?
how far down the challenge tree is that?
Which god was the one who gave 2x kills for portals and deathnote too i think
The bear right?
nobisect
4th
the last 5 are weapons and divine scarf
bear is 2nd god and lab connections
Which one is that
as pepega said, its the 4th one
huh, i guess 1 trillion damage is definitely enough for me to push the first half of kruk challenges, didnt realise the components to upgrade were so easy for divine armor lol
pretty sure my ES lightning attack has hit 200t so yeah should be no issue
given what i needed for troll/magma i was thinking itd take longer to get all the stuff, but its just teeth
however this means i need to map push on my characters, shouldnt take too long though
Monuments are main source
mere minutes off unlocking c9 ๐ข
I just clicked bravery at 0x reward multi and grayed out button and it started the minigame 
but i think thats just cloud save fuckery and my timer probably ended right then
cause it went on cooldown
what a great emote 

shrug emote would be gg
wait equal spread is only 1% per 5 opals in lowest, per level, thats super weak as that means at max level for me, with 90 opals, thats only gonna offer a 16% increase anyways
its a separate multiplier tho thats why its kinda good
With these talents can I "active" bubo now?
id need to remove 2 points from lengthmeister to max it, and i do need to catch up on my other villagers
you also need to put at least 5 opals in every villager
cause otherwise it gives +0% to the guy with 0 opals
my measurers not 10 anyways
Yeah, I wouldn't take it unless you can max it, which is what I was saying, you'd have to drop some points so idk if it's worth then
would yall wait for the class reveal and just keep a 10th char in divinity / lab till then?
welp i may have just wasted some gems on conjuror points lul
reset time
where else to put them though, hmm
so this is my current setup, with 1 unspent point, suggestions?
@bleak gazelle do you think 2 hour claims is long enough for villager statues with 21 dr
should be, from the limited amount of data that i have
okie i will try
kinda considering resetting conjuror and putting the leftover into cosmo enhance, study buff does nothing for me and neither does equal spread without changing my opals
2.5 hours was enough for 17.8-18x for the person who tested
so maybe try one at 2 hours exact then bump up in 10 minutes if you don't get it
getting kinda close to kattlekruk needed damage
harp strings are pretty big with the schematic that gives +% per string
id say go into that if you still need harp for schematics/measure
and take points out of study and equal spread
yeah i did have those before but apparently i shouldve put those points into monument bonus, which now ive got a decent amount of monument bonuses im glad i made that switch
yeah the study/spread was a "see how good equal was", when i couldve just asked lmao
i don't think cosmo enhance is any good for the exp bonus? unless its a separate multi but I don't thiiink so
its additive
aka it stinks
my current measurer stats, also ive bought all schematics i can and am at engi 17
looks almost the same as mine lmfao
the next schematic is huge for harp
the bane of my existence, purchasing anvil points
is engi 18 anything important? 199 hours til c12, all my opals are on explorer, but 55 hours to engi 18 if i went for that with a reset
i could also work on measurer 9/10 but they dont seem super useful
(for me right now that is)
im really tempted to grind villager statues but i dont think i get a super high amount atm
this is apparently 18
idk what those jar ones do for me
cc11 stuff, definitely need them
engi it is then, 12 wishes spent today, if i were a smarter man it wouldve only been 6
wait is break all 19?

wo cao
i still have to click ๐ญ
my current plan was to ruby my card rate cards, then my drop rate cards, then go back to statue farming, but seeing ruby cards the mr brightside one might take weeks lmao
yayyy gloomie mushroom cavern im endgame now
i cardified genie before i had ruby cards available
Now get to golem cavern

it was that free 1 gem cost cardifier XD
should have cardified mr brightside 
with these gains ill be there in no time xD
im a f2p definitely no whaling here
tbh id rather just save in case rng emperor from pack
or use it on a nightmare boss but 
I lost my freebie by playing on mobile, and thatโs why my carrot got Rubified
another level 13 vial done, and its glublin ears which is card rate so thats even nicer for my current goals
i got so much stuff to active
getting lv13 vial feelsgoodman
same, card rate cards, drop rate cards, statues, level 500, map unlocks
gotta finish onyxs after rubys then do vials then go back to cc
no point in rushing map unlocks for me rn
i want to divert to doing villager statues early but i dont think i have great rate on them
its not even rushing, its for the kruk armour set
ive not pushed much of w6 at all
nah, im at the crop trader on my DB and have been doin all the w6 skills, just not a lot of map progression
ic
as w6 is the backtrack point for a lot of stuff anyways
thats decades away
nah u can do it trust
ive only just broken the 1 trillion damage milestone on my ES
i did it with around 80-90b damage on my vman
i had full megacrit tho
wait i also need to farm hampters for bags GG
you genuinely think this is enough for all the kruk merit tasks?
is it super active then, running and punchin moles then back to the boss?
Yeah
yea
basically what you do is you use your basic skills (coin and whip) on the moles
but tbh if you dont feel the need to craft scarf anytime soon you can just do all the missions up to the last
theyre not too bad
then you go punch the boss while your multikill speedrun aoe is going off cooldown
then you use it when the moles are closest and you do it all over again
well that damage is without chizoar helm/scarf too so the damage is definitely something i can increase more to kill the actual boss itself
Is there a guide on what to do with the bell in the hole?
so close....

it's in the hole guide
mb i can't read
just got the sovereign ruble cuble so my dmg just went up even more
and with that ive just broken the 1t upper boundary on my ES woo
wait waht is that huh'
heh just went and gambled for talent before megacrit finally got it after 15 gambles
gz nemmy O.O
how do you get jar slot 2 and 3 in caverns
schematics
pocket div gives the minor link bonuses right?
i believe so
ok cus i just learned my Big P bubble is still level 1
today morning i decided to just use my 60 gaming fertilizers why not, also today i got an artifact that boosts bits by 1000% yay lucky me
wtf thats major bits i want that
it was candy island
beautiful looking forward to it, im just trying to get to fury relic island rn
just like these 60 fertilizers could have been "as if" 600 if i just waited couple hours
did citric conflict get nerfed?
so all the guides are oboslete now 
yeah ig so
no, there are 3 setups here you can use
#1277368276095336558 message
ty 
look at this nerd showing guides (Ty imma actually look and use it..)
fr like that
i havent done since equi dream
ive just been upgrading my towers so i can feel strong
minichief spirit 4 star is 48% dr ?
ruby is 48% yes
met some dude ingame says hes banned from the discord lol so random
oh ruby
idk if i put a 4 star cardifier on it
since i'm very far of farming a lot of them
this is only active isnt it no afk?
yes
im new on world 5, where i should use my 25 opals (in caverns yeah but how many on explorer guy)
Can follow this from #1303761365273415700
thx
hey ace. how do i send my IT profile. ik im probably gonna get flamed but just curious on what u reccomend i should focus on
i have this saved and realized that screen changed looks prettier now
but same concept
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
@bleak gazelle do need to have all same meal cooking?
for new meals, it's usually best to have your first kitchen trying, especially since it's a gemshop one
for other food, up to you. i normally just throw them all on the same thing because it's easy
almost finished shelf 1 of cooking
what a great name
how do i obtain the blue rupees in cavern 11?
lmao yeah my name are. very random
hold enough green rupies and you'll start to get them
Anout half of shelf 3 is full now @bleak gazelle shelf 1 and 2 are full
bro whats the bet i aint gonna get this new recipe again
bout tree fiddy
did you use taste test? 
3 TIMES
I am on divinity grind but my pusher has made it to W5 boss without the required dmg. Now I'm wondering what to do with him actively while I wait for divinity. Do I:
- Farm matts for stamps/bubbles
- Work on 1M deathnotes
- Up all his skilling
- Set him in Divinity and quit the game
- Something else
Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)
bruteforce it to 100% with ladles 
get some damage buffs and enter w6 
1 ladle gets me to where that photo is. i have 50 ladles. so i have 50 attempts
plenty of those things aren't divinity nor require afking 
sorry 60 ladles
Ty, Ill run through them 1 at a time and see what can be pushed
@pastel kayak im catching u buddy start running (youre still way further)
what class/damage are you at now btw?
19-37M on DK
that should be more than enough
nah u need 10b
may need to respec
https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png
unless your accuracy is below 54k 
ideally you'd want it at 81k, but I think you should be fine without it
did u like my acc ace or is it scuffed?
Accuracy might be the problem, item pannel says 37k
it's definitely something, sorry, i get distracted doing IT reviews, too much stuff to click on 
lmao fair enough
Shaquracy, wisdom bubble/stamps, owl/roo are all huge for accuracy
Sweet, lots to look into
Can somebody give me a quick summary of what each cavern from 11 onwards is? All I know is you make jars, kill golems, and do some form of challenges involving chess
I know they're useful caverns, but I wanna know WHY they're useful
Oh, also first three sigils. Throw 4 people into them and you should get all 3 in like 3 hours, easy base stat
Google it
Look up it mayn
I tried but I haven't found any videos
The game has a Wikipedia page
c11 jars is the c11-15 resource, so new schematics/measurer bonuses + collectibles which are other account enhancing things
c12 is another skilling cavern, more opals and more skill xp/layer (from schematic)
c13 is wisdom monument (not yet implemented)
c14 is gambit - endless summoning like we though, a lot of crazy account bonuses
c15 - i actually haven't looked at it 
but nearly everything should be in #1303761365273415700
-# as it has been since hole first came out
It has all the bonuses
progress uwu
GODDAMMIT WHY DO I KEEP FORGETTING WIKIS EXIST
2x bones is one of them
I keep doing this in the Souls games discords too, I really need to start looking stuff up more
is it worth to even push w5 with these afk rates? i know dk is an active class and i dont waste time on my dk by doing something inefficient
damage rn
0 prayers ๐ฅธ
salts r annoying
does the strings matter for notes?
can you candy? should be an easy boss kill, if you try and fail, try respeccing
https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png
If you active, or have a shit load of candy like I did, then sure, push through w5
more string, more gain just
yes and no. easy to print just takes time for it to refine
this is prob not enough candy
The sooner you start the w6 skills, the faster you'll get the REALLY good bonuses, especially summoning
If you're willing to go through most of it, that's at the very least 80% of the way to Kruk from where you are
I mean that's like 150 hours not including the random candies
I think that's slightly less than I used to push from suggmas to kruk in one sitting, you should be good
How long do the caverns take to progress? I can't get any opals from the den but I've been doing everything else for about a week and I'm only on the harp
I've been in caverns for about 2 months, and I just hit cavern 8. Either we're both bad at the Hole, or it's REALLY slow
Ok
did you unlock and link up to the god that gives 2x portal kills?
I'm assuming you mean unlocking the next caverns right
i have doot and the lab bonus
noice
Get the "10th opal gives more xp " conjurer bonus MAXED asap, I didn't do it and I'm only at like 13k per hour with 17 opals on explorer
Plus, the one that gives xp per schematic is great too, but focus on 10th opal if you're lacking in conjurer points
If you can, and you're willing to lose the other sections bonuses (or are rich and have a ton of points) max them both immediately
Alright I'll work on those
Was doing the arenas in worlds 1-4 last night and was getting 8 chests is that good? @bleak gazelle
Also, don't ignore Motherlode (or Hive when you reach it) as much as I did
I figured "oh ill just grind bravery hours instead" WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE I HAVE LIKE 4 OPALS FROM MOTHERLODE AFTER 2 MONTHS
Lol
motherlode has the fun trick of making you forget not to use your characters other than vman on it and overlevelling
well that didnt take as much candy as expected
I can't even mine the motherboard rn
I unlocked the main gods but are not level 40 on some characters should I stop divinity or continue untill 40
Also, regardless of what other things you may need Bucket ores for, go for the Opals from the blobulyte on all your buckets, at least until it takes longer than like 5 days
Think I'm on 6
mad gains privat if you unlock w6 youre in a great spot
If you can, get your mining efficiency up to what you need for the motherlode, more opals is a high priority
holy shit what do i even do with the talent points
spend them
Do you have DB btw twist?
have you been booking your talents?
No I'm mid w5
Damn
yeah. my max is 159 i think rn?
I would've said grind 2 or 3 opals from grimoire, but nvm
cool cool
bro. poisonic elder is insane
I can't really think of anything else for villager xp at your level, you don't have the mushrooms yet so no villager statue, and you don't have DB so no Grimoire opals
I'm at the same area and only get 3k kph lol
Just go for whatever opals you can find, get any schematics that'll give villager xp, and max those two conjurer bonuses ASAP
Work on Vman skilling, get to rank 1, resample
Work on big skilling bubbles, resample
Work on stamps, resample
Spend PO Boxes, resample
Replace traps, use cardboard 20 hours or wooden 60 hours if you just want to let rift claim them, if you're fine doing manually, then set them to as often as you want to check
Work on tower levels, get boulder up to 30ish, should be enough to fulfill Equinox TD50 challenge
Give all your characters worship skuls??? Take off slush skull, the speed makes it worse. Claim worship individually, use Maestro Transfusion on Vman once you get more eff
Unlock new meals and push current ones to 11 to make use of Diamond Chef
Unlock splicer recipes to get new pets to push arena/territories
Work on Star Signs, being able to equip 3 at once will still be a bonus as you work on infinites
Push to Rift 16 for Skill Mastery - get W1-3 skills to 300 for passive cards
Redo your ships to maximize chest amount if you can check more often, quantity of chests is key and you can still get some early ancients and/or loot to upgrade boats
Do your Zow/Chows on BB
Do more quests
Ok thx for the help
Getting to 40 would be good to prep you for all the other afk grinds there are, how far off are you?
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=^(%3F!.*(pearl)).*divinity.*xp
Search every bonus in Idleon!
yeah sweet. and skilling was the first thing i was gonna do as soon as i was done with the lab/div jail
ace you really give goated reviews can we get some appreciation for acecow
FR
hm. should the knightly disciples should kill both sides of moles for full afk kattlekruk?
All characters are 30 or more but one is already 40 I got untill fluterbis on the gods
also i put on slush skull as a joke. forgot i left it on lol
ideally? just drop it on the middle of the boss
the one side of the moles are outhealing my dps
the moles that are coming from the side my char is facing are dying, but not the moles behind
divine knight for kruk is gonna be tough
i thought dk was the class for kruk
the shockwaves have a hit limit
Not really I did it with less power
shouldn't be too bad just to send 1 shockwave through the moles behind you though right
I've found elemental sorcerer to be way easier
are you 1 hitting the moles?
just time consuming if youre low dmg when u first fight him
I wasn't one hitting moles when I did it
just move back and forth, shouldn't be an issue at that damage range 
Any idea why my prints are showing the star and not the swirl?
lowkey thinking of activating the bad lab alch node just to have more downtime between having to level, otherwise i just max out and lose out anyway..
meteorite luck pulled me through my first kruk, plus lightning barrage does tons of damage to kruk while you focus on moles
Old advice from the !guide was if you're above 50% double xp claim chance then swap to vitalic instead of mantra, here's a list of double xp (ignore last one), not sure what you've got access to, but could do that
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=(double|2x) (exp|afk)
Search every bonus in Idleon!
have heard that that consistently visually glitches, you can check if its working as intended on ideefficiency koyah
vman killing kruk on nightmare will laugh at you if you dont kill kruk with dk
dk is really not good at early kruk pushing
it's literally one of the two easiest classes to get damage and kill boss with 
i mean i did it with a breeze
from multiple people's reports ove rthe last year
should be even easier with vault boss damage boost, too
im just salty i cant kill kruk on vman ๐ฅฒ
i got to kruk with 2x the dmg required
if you can't click back and forth ever 15 seconds though, then just get some more damage
could try grabbing boss damage rings from w1 shop and equipping the star sign, too
damage problem or strategy problem?
beautiful idea ace i swear youre the mvp
i guess damage i just dont wanna spam click moles, i know the strat easily enough too much work lol
i mean whats your damage on vman
Is there any reason my bubo randomly stops spamming spells even when they are off cd?
last i checked fully geared its 80b-130b, no w1 rings
take off this spell from your bar
oh you could do it hands down
although you could just do it when you get a strung tooth of the divine
WAVE 69 YEW
i want to unlock suggma gloves recipe because i can craft cracked skull destroyers immediately after, should add a considerable amount of damage
ehhh
forgot my explorer was getting double xp, my engi is gonna take much longer to get 18 than i thought 
whatever makes it a little bit less effort
i am curious what the gains would be, what with all the WP modifiers that exist now
this is my bar
Oh I'm ape I forgot 2nd tab
do you have anything on other pages?
it'll stay a considerable amount of effort
tyvm
you get the strategy down after like 5 minutes then its just repetition
how are your skill levels looking for this?
might be doable
how much dmg do i need for nightmare kruk?
i more than doubled my choppin since my last attempt, he had no chopping like 21, have been focusing his skills so will boost damage massively there as well
He has a very important role right now but I'll move him back to skilling in 15 minutes
any reasons my kph is so low?
half done
u got dis
whats ur dmg at
oof thats low
You need more acc
do you have your attack talents on your action bar?
your afk gain , low weapon speed
mostly damage
idk how lol
Dk need 1.5x acc - not 1.0 acc
respawn rate
whats ur talents looking like
also that yeah
o
GOOD JOB LAD
Just got to w5 myself. Is that skull that strong?
just a little bit of micro turning around
welcome to farming 
its a dps check ||it doesn't attack u||
yeah kinda. reccomended 35m for dk
not really
Thats not a lot tho. My es is start w5 with 50mil min dmg
on some talents and i have lvl 29 shaqracy. im missing some stamps but they seem insanely hard to get
So i can power rush w6?
should be a breeze if u got the accuracy
the only way kruk is a problem is if you cant 1 hit the moles that heal him
what about the basic bubbles. the first 2 are good. big meaty claws for dmg %
probably yes, i enter in w6 with 600B dmg
Interesting. I parked myself at w5 for skilling and making a vman. Should i now rush w6 too?
Note. Im super behind in skilling i got to w5 in 7 days
shaq is good. but if u dont have the dmg accuracy dont matter
lvl 50 on first 2 bubbles, big meaty claws is only lvl 10
id say yes to get started on w6 skills. im super far behind on skilling but imma smash it all out soon after div jail
jesus even knowing the game i cant get to w5 in 7 days O_O
Whale it up and you'll get there.
I bought all core boosts / watched guides from the griff dude / bought some gem stuff which ibcrease dmg. Got every single pet
i went from w5 - w6 in like 3 days lol
same
well vault came out after i started doing div jail
and then i had enough damage to push to w6
that definitely explains it, im making an alt right now and its free to play, i saw you can make a bubo with high level gloves and wanted to do it for the luls
personally. if youre stuck with dmg. stop. have a look at all ur ALCH, Stamps, anything u can find thats dmg. ROO. Owl. etc and focus on that
Doot and golem is broken
For begginer. It makes me explode stuff
ok
yeah golem is insane
does mining progress in the motherload carry over to new layers if i afk there for the night?
Nope



