lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[novel mural]

they dont drop

[faint wigeon]

[near summit]

Trash but if u drop them its just invisible iirc

[marsh plinth]

mmm so no point in autoselling my 20 stacks of mountain bread

might as well greens tack them while I'm at it

[neat siren]

just buy them

[marsh plinth]

well they're just a byproduct of me farming chizoar

[neat siren]

how exactly does rethrow work, like i know what it does but how do i do a rethrow

actually i'll find out once i stop oneshotting stuff

[novel mural]

sword goes whoosh, sword hits small, sword gets to go whoosh again

[neat siren]

probably should have checked my other characters afk on bravery before i started for a bit more sword damage

[spark stone]

talking about Gstacks....
||soon||

[near summit]

Only the last sword used can be rerolled

[neat siren]

yep that i know

so far i've been oneshotting everything so i can't tell

ah ok there it is, it shows up after the sword animation

i know the guide has a priority on the bonuses but i want a few more opinions here

i prioritise villager exp over bucket fill rate but then everything else after that (except opals) are up to me right?

[pseudo mirage]

How do i increase the wells size capacity in the hole

[neat siren]

or i suppose based on my needs, but is there a preference that i should follow

[near summit]

Engi villager

[neat siren]

unlock the schematic that expands them when they reach max

[novel mural]

deathnote day

[marsh plinth]

just crafted my first chizoar caustic scarf; pogged a little

need a lobotomy after typing that out

[pseudo mirage]

I have that but it doesn't appear to be working

[near summit]

Wdym

[spark stone]

there's a second schematic that lets you expand even more

[marsh plinth]

greenstack is 100m or 10m

[faint wigeon]

did you click on the option that enable expand?

[near summit]

When it fills u get half of what u have and max by 1.5x

[spark stone]

10M

[cloud flame]

10B

[spark stone]

I'm not gonna farm 10B bones

[cloud flame]

yes you are

[pseudo mirage]

Thanks

[neat siren]

what are suggested stamps to use gilded on

i assume mason jar is one of them

[faint wigeon]

multitool, ladle, all carry cap and some other sht

[hollow elm]

why is it that every time i hit 100 on the pirtate flag it resets to 75

im trying to do the achievment to get 150 score on a certain part of w5

[near summit]

Vman

[hollow elm]

oh ok

[near summit]

Try using valentine slime things or reset vman talent

[hollow elm]

just rest all ?

[near summit]

Enhancer

[hollow elm]

coz i can do the hold down thing to reset it to 0

ok done

ty

[faint wigeon]

now thats a spread of points

[hollow elm]

i have rift slug

[faint wigeon]

pretty sure vman tab isn't affected by those thing

for most talents at least

[solar drift]

it doesnt matter, you can technically snapshot vman talent

not sure how it works sometime but i just swap the preset with stats talent is leveled -> swap map -> change preset and see if i can upgrade the stats on first tab

[novel mural]

soon gotta reattempt all my tds

[fallow aurora]

What r ur best waves rn?

[novel mural]

I've only done 1 w6 td so far, dont mind that one

[solar drift]

your 3rd td is better than mine

[novel mural]

ah you've already got 2.5k construction mastery + last superbit

[hollow elm]

im struggeling to even hit 50

i prob have ass strats or placements

just kinda winging it haha

[novel mural]

I just follow the guides cba to do it by myself

[hollow elm]

THERES GUIDES?

[novel mural]

have you ever checked the pins or the #1084911530417606656 section?

[solar drift]

Yes, guide master or just YouTube

[novel mural]

any of them?

[hollow elm]

nah never

i couldnt see that chat

[novel mural]

my expectations are too high

[soft zealot]

no up to date gem shop prio list

[hollow elm]

hahaha my account is cooked dw i found a stremer that did an account reveiw and sent me a word document of what to do to my account

[novel mural]

valentine pack was A tier, DB pack is easily S tier(or A+)

the rest is still up-to-date in Griffy's yt video

[soft zealot]

you can buy all that stuff with blue gems?

[novel mural]

no

packs + green gems can only be bought with irl money

[soft zealot]

then it ain't for me

lookin for a blue gem shop prio

[novel mural]

IT has a tier system for gemshop stuff

[solar drift]

We have one too

Just need to search for it

[novel mural]

cant wait to finish my last critter vial

[soft zealot]

[solar drift]

Not as insult

we pretty much have guide for everything

[soft zealot]

i've checked all the recent msgs in the discord and no one is giving a link to a post in here

just a reply to say to google it or check griffys vid

can't see any posts in here

[solar drift]

#1084911530417606656 as muta Said

[novel mural]

and the image is literally on 2nd page in searches

[solar drift]

Just click around, go to w6 pin

[soft zealot]

i checked in there

[novel mural]

no you didnt

[solar drift]

Go to w5 pin , endgame chat pin

[novel mural]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[soft zealot]

ty

can't see an endgame w5 pin

fyi

[novel mural]

hmm, 1.6b trapping xp every 8hrs for vman

[glad isle]

trapping

[soft zealot]

oh damn, richelin kitchen is huge

[glad isle]

true but

don't buy too many unless whale

[soft zealot]

autoloot only player

[spark stone]

one should be enough

[soft zealot]

i went through that link posted above, so i bought the first 3

[glad isle]

i didn't check the guide

still get only 3

[stuck river]

Genies suck at bonefarming

[novel mural]

why are genies farming bones

[quiet moon]

is there any star signs or cards i should be using for grinding divinity or no need

[novel mural]

1 affects div xp from hydron

[quiet moon]

also i just go for sacrifice right

[quiet moon]

i dont have that tab yet

[novel mural]

yeah always go for 100%

[quiet moon]

ye i figured ty

[quiet moon]

i should rush for that then right?

[novel mural]

it's gonna take some time and it's just 30% xp, up to you

[quiet moon]

wont take that long will it

i just have to go run around and claim some more consstelations

[stuck river]

I hate you

[trail ore]

Not looking forward to doing constellation catch up

[glad isle]

just do they

u forget later on

[trail ore]

Just do samples

[glad isle]

no

[trail ore]

[hexed pine]

anyone got a setup for w5 td?

all towers are above lv100

[novel mural]

I wanted to finish arena 100 for tome but man, watching tsar nuke the shit out of the enemy comps is way too much fun

[trail ore]

Die and cry about it is my setup

[hexed pine]

aight then fair enough

[trail ore]

I need to see if I can push waves today and I don't want to

[hexed pine]

i just wanna fix my w5 td

every other worlds td is on wave 100 and above but only w5 is on wave 50 lmao

[fallow aurora]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[hexed pine]

wut does that mean

[trail ore]

For some reason this link says no access

[hexed pine]

u need to have a role i think

i mean i know it's the endgame chat and i have access but i forgot how u access it lmao

ah he gave me the setup lmao

alr alr thanks a lot

[novel mural]

126 lab levels away from 3rd jewel

[warm holly]

126 lab levels away from 3rd jewel *

[hexed pine]

not the best setup but it got me somewhere at least lol

[novel mural]

god rank 3

50% paid off

[hexed pine]

wave 130 nice

[spark stone]

go to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/802261539142762517 and click the peanut reaction

[fallow aurora]

[minor terrace]

any tips for starting divinity? for instance, im farming stilts with my active char, but most of my cards dont apply at all

[celest trench]

left the game for a month cuz my dmg decreased a lot randomly. I just found out that it was because my card preset was swapped. Im an idiot

[trail ore]

Patience unfortunately

[low torrent]

i just keep one guy on it , and hes been doing it for a long time now

[hexed pine]

one frames per sometime

[twin dock]

[hexed pine]

okay i used vines on them and now my td isn't moving

it works

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[fiery junco]

should i not turn in my dragon warrior statues for now since its going to be converted into villager statues

[solar drift]

hold atleast 20k

so you can insta onyx it

[fallow aurora]

Hotair already told Lava about it so no one can cheese it

[solar drift]

yes but he didnt mention anything about removing the statue all together iirc

so you can still hold the current statue and let it convert to the new one

[fallow aurora]

hes swapping it

[solar drift]

yes hes swapping it, but will he remove it

if he dont remove then is better to have a 20k stack for instant onyx

[coral perch]

LESGOOOO

Imagine I accidentally tap the 1%

[nocturne patrol]

gz

[minor terrace]

So does divinity take like, months? How will I ever get millions for a single gamba..

[teal lynx]

Just increase everything that gives divinity points

To properly answer your question tho. Yes it's gonna take months to complete and years to 'finish'

[brave fable]

thats what i did for goat but ended up getting it 3 1% options later

[tranquil phoenix]

Improved a lot from last night

[coral perch]

100% MAXIMUM NO CHILL

And I got card : D

[tranquil phoenix]

Is that caotic or radiant

[coral perch]

Normal

[cedar harness]

How would you go about killing nightmare kattlekruk with void Walker?

[trail ore]

Punch

[cedar harness]

Bruh

[coral perch]

Just get more damage, then 1 shot the guy

[cedar harness]

Come on guys

My damage will need to increase by like x1000 for void Walker

[brave fable]

its real just get more dmg

like any strategy needs dmg to work

[tranquil phoenix]

Damn

[nocturne patrol]

16 h proc of omni and nothing xd

[brave fable]

cus if you cant kill biggie moles quick enough you cant kill kruk

[cedar harness]

He one shots biggie

I just need the scarf unlock 😭😭

[celest meadow]

I was trying to claim my Anvil production as I ran to Divinity...hit claim as I jumped up and clicked the 1% and lost the chance at the 100% 😭

[glad isle]

bad rng 😦

how's ur captains

[nocturne patrol]

ofc i'm gonna have post office artifact before one that give % bits

[glad isle]

real

[glad isle]

u got eldrich unlocked right

[cedar harness]

Ok, so how do I boost Voidwalkers damage then?

[glad isle]

mind showing me ur actifacts

[nocturne patrol]

i dont have eldrich

[glad isle]

oh

i thought u got it by now

[nocturne patrol]

i'm rift 25, need to do 5m kill and only at 110k per h, wait to get more dammage

[glad isle]

just afk char there

can't be that hard

[nocturne patrol]

lab jail and just see i forgot a 9h proc xd

[glad isle]

😭

lab jail grind is real

[nocturne patrol]

i see the end, and all are 40 div

[glad isle]

soon free from lab jails

[nocturne patrol]

gonna let them a little for unlock next god aha

[void wing]

what are all the divinity point increases?

[nocturne patrol]

if u have some gems divinity sparkles is good

[glad isle]

that's good for xp

[void wing]

kk ty!

[nocturne patrol]

y 25% xp and points per sparkles purchase

i got 3D printer proc on 9h char..

[void wing]

for sailing how do you "upgrade" artifacts? "like transforming a normal artifact to ancient artifact

[spiral path]

find it again

[split meteor]

Building my active dk and looking for the best pendant i can get.. im thinking mob respawn would be useless right?

[void wing]

Ty!

[spiral path]

mob respawn is always useful

[nocturne patrol]

or amarok pendant if u want dr

[split meteor]

With active dk? Oh yeah that sounds nice, looking for BIS options and i imagine deathbloom cant be

[spiral path]

tbh, I just have divine scarves on everyone, but strung tooth is also good for pure damage throughput

[spiral path]

chaotic amarok would also be good for active DK, I guess, not an expert on this stuff

[inland stirrup]

Hey, I'm making my 10th character, any suggestions on what I should do? I'm currently 3 War, 3 Wiz, 2 Rang, 1 secret. Do I just round it out with a 3rd ranger?

specifically 1 BB/2 DK, 2 ES/1 P, 1 BM/1 SB, 1 Secret

[solar drift]

as sharki said amarok is bis for active dk

[nocturne patrol]

how much dr u need for start statue farm ?

[solar drift]

10x

[nocturne patrol]

Ty

[wild onyx]

colosseum goes hard

[solar drift]

stop

doing whatever yo uare doing right now

[bleak gazelle]

Like just got to w5? Think it's 5

[fiery junco]

when is div jail considered done? i just unlocked 2 gods like one after another using the 25% and im at kattlekruk now

[bleak gazelle]

technically never
though your next goal is probably 2100 lab and 100 div levels if you're at the final 2 (i assume you have everyone at 40 and one at 50?)

[split meteor]

Just curious do you have doot?

[fiery junco]

actually no i kinda just left one person on div for like a month and got lucky with the 25% tickets

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like you've got a lot of lab left to do then. you at least want 40 on everyone to unlock TranQi style so you can get xp anywhere and you want 50 on at least one person to get Multitool stamp (one of the top 3 stamps in the game)

[fiery junco]

oke got it i'll dump them in the labaltar mix

do i need bagur

[bleak gazelle]

the lab levels aren't a waste, either, as you'll get new lab jewels from w6 jade emp
you don't need bagur, per se, but once you've unlocked him you can start getting god ranks which provide some small bonuses

[fiery junco]

well i guess if im getting div points from leveling div anyway might as well lol

[marsh plinth]

any way to check which packs you've bought

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i'd probably focus xp more since you're already that far, so could swap to vitalic, make sure you equip Biggie Hours card

[bleak gazelle]

If you were talking to me, yes, I got one from trading after 147 rolls

[bleak gazelle]

Uhh, no easy way, afaik, IT has it in the json data like this, not sure if anyone has parsed what they are

[iron mesa]

That's how bundles called. And that's their image's names

[hollow elm]

does anyone know how i get No more praying to work

ive done what it says and it doesnt seem to be active

[fallow aurora]

it isn't worth using

[hollow elm]

really?

some of the curses are horid

[novel mural]

those horid curses are offset by alchemy, stamps, cards, basic account progression

[trail ore]

😭

[split meteor]

Should google salt refinery chart before you get too far

[trail ore]

i have it

[split meteor]

O sry

I almost almost screwed mine up lol

[wild onyx]

what

[upbeat heath]

100000 gems please and thank you

[trail ore]

but like, its pretty easy to mess up the ratio on the way to 11-6-3-6-3-1

[split meteor]

Jealous i need 19 red 😂

There really needs to be a way to derank there are probably people with super awful refineries

[hollow elm]

i think my refinery is completely cooked then#

[split meteor]

I heard if you have 7 blu it kind of becomes impossible to ever have upkeep

Not plausible

[wild onyx]

look at your outputs vs. fuel requirements

[split meteor]

5 is fine i have 6 you know to set your salts to autorefine?

You would set blue to refune at 10% and level red up to 16 thats not vad at all

[hollow elm]

wheres that

[wild onyx]

just take a slightly wider screenshot

like orange salts used red salts to be created

[hollow elm]

ok 1 sec

ive defo got a problem because i have 5k blue always but i never progress on page 2

[bleak gazelle]

if you want super duper simple, just keep higher salts at 2x the level of lower salts and green at 2x blue

[wild onyx]

so do you see how orange takes 20 red per cycle, but your red is only producing 14 red per cycle

[hollow elm]

where does it say the produce

[wild onyx]

on the rank/power tab

btw, never set red or green to anything other than 0%, you always want to rank them up

[neat siren]

your auto refines please set them to 0 on red and green

[bleak gazelle]

the POWER per cycle number

[split meteor]

Einston von brainstorm youre a genius

[hollow elm]

oh ok

[hoary kernel]

Ive Spent Like 2000 Keys And Still No Kattlekruks Cape

Instead I Got 3 Obol

[hollow elm]

this makes alot more sense now

[bleak gazelle]

As you get higher, you can drop it to 1.9 or 1.8x, but 2x is just easy to remember

[hollow elm]

i just thought it would be better to have the first one the highest and then just keep each one lower by 1

but yours makes sense

[wild onyx]

good luck, it will take you a few weeks to get out of that salt lock. keep orange and blue at 10% for the meanwhile and try to get red high enough that it produces more than orange uses

[hollow elm]

i didnt know the rank did much besides hold more

[split meteor]

Umm not trying to overwhelm you dev but theres a wrench in the boxes you need to toggle red and green to 0

[hollow elm]

yeh i know how would i have ranked em up not knowin lol

i just thought it my head having the highest on red and then just go down in ranks the further the sals

but it makes sense now

i just never really looked at a guide for anything

kinda just tried to use comman sense :L

[wild onyx]

its ok, i went into w3 reading about salt lock and then someone in here just told me to always rank everything and not worry about it and i got fucked anyway, so even knowing ahead of time isn't always enough lol

[hollow elm]

haha thats unlucky

yeh ok well thank you

so idealy i need to reach this since my blue is already at rank 5

[split meteor]

Oh sirry i never knew those wrenches were there until i googled why i never had salt lol

[hollow elm]

ooo ok

mb

[near lichen]

Technically it's not the worst? If you need a
Salt you'll probably need to wait for the next rank up refine to have any salt, not ranking up red at all is a bigger problem

[hollow elm]

oooo ok

i never really saw red as the problem

ive always got enough

its the page 2 salts that just never really give me anything

[split meteor]

Lucky 😭

[wild onyx]

when you start trying to fix it and aren't producing red except on rank up it will become apparent that you're not making enough

[hollow elm]

like ive got 14k red salts

[hollow elm]

ok cool

[near lichen]

The downside is you can only finish buildings right after a rankup and you lose a bit of resource efficiency to convert salts faster

[hollow elm]

is there a specific way this can be fixed

coz ive got 5k blue but 81 green

[wild onyx]

in the meantime feel free to use the spare orange on upgrading towers (boulder, frozone)

[hollow elm]

and only 600 black

[wild onyx]

keep ranking up green at 0% and produce the others at 10%

[hollow elm]

ok

[wild onyx]

it's not obvious but page 2 has a different cycle time, they are slower

[hollow elm]

omg they do

[split meteor]

I get so much nullo now it makes it seem trivial lol right as soon as i started fixing the ranks

[near lichen]

Just keep ranking up green unless the power per cycle is greater than reds, increase refinery speed, use squire talent

[near lichen]

1 hour base time for synthesis, 15 min for combustion

[marsh plinth]

which post office boxes for bubo?

[thorny comet]

i might have made a mistake

[bleak gazelle]

i see damage on there

[near lichen]

Cc is effected by potion and mana

[bleak gazelle]

you're fine, it'll just take time

[thorny comet]

yea but a pinfull one i gotta wait 20 sec for coins abbilty

[bleak gazelle]

better than not being able to kill it at all

[marsh plinth]

cc?

[near lichen]

Cranium cooking

[marsh plinth]

wdym by affected by potion and mana

like reduction per kill? or duration

[near lichen]

The potion box increases the cook time, mana box has cooldown reduction. Both of these let you get more alchemy progress per cast

[marsh plinth]

ahh

so don't go for damage?

[modern fog]

If I have doot, does Harriep give +1k% coin (and similaly, does Goharut give +50% afk gains)?

[near lichen]

I'm prioritizing cc over anything else on bubo, if you don't care about alchemy progress or don't active you can prioritize skilling or damage boxes

[bleak gazelle]

exact numbers will depend on your div levels, but yes

[marsh plinth]

kk

[near lichen]

But alchemy is the most important skill in the game so you should probably prioritize it even if you actively hate it

[thorny comet]

what this do?

[near summit]

Min dmg

[modern fog]

okay, the important thing is that it means it applies the minor bonus to each character and the all-character bonuses are x10

[glad isle]

still doing this ?

[hollow elm]

is it bad that i have never afk at the cooking

[thorny comet]

wdym

[marsh plinth]

will cc go off even if I'm afk? or is it an active only thing

[glad isle]

the minibosses

[near lichen]

Active only

[marsh plinth]

kk

[thorny comet]

i might have click on gem shop

[glad isle]

big oopsie 😡

[thorny comet]

yea

[glad isle]

anyway get ur dmg up

[near lichen]

Afk doesn't work on any abilities that involve tracking kills or knowing if all mobs are dead among others

[novel mural]

wasting 5 domeos

its not like they take days to respawn

[bleak gazelle]

i tried kruk on bb last night at 70m, that was a waste of a key

[novel mural]

[bleak gazelle]

was hoping i could just outdamage the healing thanks to all the extra boss damage%

[thorny comet]

let me guess alchmey

[bleak gazelle]

actually, i tried at both 65 and 72m since i just swapped some cards

[near lichen]

I did it on dk around same damage

[bleak gazelle]

DK you can actually do at 20m now if you really want to struggle

[thorny comet]

well at least i am not salt lock anymore

[bleak gazelle]

but yeah, seems like you can get through w5 in about a week if you know what you're doing, thanks to vault and a bit of event luck or gemshop

[near lichen]

It'd suck reaching it at that damage though xD

[marsh plinth]

does bubo have a higher kph than DK

[glad isle]

stamps too

[near lichen]

I def don't I took like a month xD

Maybe but worse drops

[thorny comet]

what kind of bubbles bosst the damge?

[bleak gazelle]

once you're fully setup with talent levels, yes, it should have higher raw kph

[glad isle]

ask others

[split meteor]

Certainly it should? But not sure

[glad isle]

im no big brain

[thorny comet]

guys what bubble i should upgrade for damge boost

[near lichen]

Es for common drops, dk for rare drops, and sb is sometimes better depending on map layout I think?

[marsh plinth]

like for afk right? is there any specific reason if you don't take into account multikill

[split meteor]

Sb has a niche?! I must find out

[bleak gazelle]

ah, for afk, not sure, but probably. DK afk gains are kind of low

[near lichen]

Maybe???

[marsh plinth]

yeah I swapped to my bubo to push since I realized wisdom doesn't affect div exp but bubo's skill does, but I'm pushing with him anyways

and his KPH is so much better

[near lichen]

A map with lots of levels might reduce dks kph enough

[split meteor]

I was stuck on damage for a bit honestly you should focus skill bubbles so you can print faster damage bubble samples but main stat 2nd bubble are really good and power of trione/two/three?

[bleak gazelle]

wisdom doesn't, but tab 2 specialized skill exp does
-# ah, is that what you meant by bubo's skill

[nocturne patrol]

just do fish guy and feather for dmg

[marsh plinth]

I think Skill Wiz also affects div

[nocturne patrol]

try to get bubble that give more % weapon power on cauldron too

[thorny comet]

wdym by power of trione/two/three?

[bleak gazelle]

it shouldn't, since skill eff doesn't affect div

[thorny comet]

that the 21th bubble?

[near lichen]

I believe those are the 25th bubbles in cauldrons 1-3

[nocturne patrol]

here

[near lichen]

Huge for damage

[thorny comet]

oh yea well it will tkae time casue i need bubu

[thorny comet]

any others?

[marsh plinth]

why did my bubo spawn 4 crystals...

[split meteor]

Its really more of leveling every source you can get i think

[bleak gazelle]

did your daily reset just happen?

[marsh plinth]

no it happened like an hour ago

[nocturne patrol]

and this

dont up purple one, need red salt xd

[bleak gazelle]

thems the rng

[thorny comet]

ok i will start focusing on that

[marsh plinth]

they jumped me

[near lichen]

Yeah I need to 1000x my damage to make progress in w6 and sadly there's no single upgrade that does that 😔

[nocturne patrol]

do a autoreview for see wat u have to up

[split meteor]

Especially if you just focus one the cost becomes so much so fast

[near lichen]

Autoreview would be great if there was a way to use it

[split meteor]

Marginal gains

[marsh plinth]

wait

daylight savings moved my daily reset up an hour

[novel mural]

[marsh plinth]

so my daily reset did just happen

[split meteor]

Whoever came up with dst is a jerk

[marsh plinth]

what's dst

[bleak gazelle]

daylight savings time

[near summit]

.

[marsh plinth]

oooh

[near summit]

Just missing the time

[marsh plinth]

c: I haven't slept all night

it was never about the farmers

[split meteor]

8 hours in to my 12h shift feel like a pile of garbage

[marsh plinth]

playing idleon will make you feel beter

you can use pens do get extra orders right?

this whole time I thought they were for doing regular orders

[nocturne patrol]

can u turn off the thing on attom collider that burn silver pen ?

[split meteor]

Pens are the regular way 😆

[cloud flame]

no

[split meteor]

Jk but wouldnt do them any other way

[nocturne patrol]

rip me

[hexed grotto]

Lies

[marsh plinth]

is there more stuff in post office other than the base 12 boxes

[stable parrot]

Why would you want to

[marsh plinth]

how do you unlock the more stuff c:

[nocturne patrol]

cuz i dont have a lot

[bleak gazelle]

unlock the 6th order, page 2 should unlock

then 3 boxes each are from arena and sailing

[carmine hearth]

By the time you have the atoms to get the pen you should be able to farm hundreds per day

[marsh plinth]

the second delivery service is always a crafting one, right? should I avoid doing that one

[glad isle]

not always

[nocturne patrol]

all char are on div lab jail for now, but i have some char 75 lab and 40 div, gonna farm with them

[thorny comet]

finnaly

[split meteor]

Did you know you can use anvil in quick ref now?

[near lichen]

Avoid it for pens, do it for real time efficiency, avoid it for player time efficiency

[split meteor]

Well put

[nocturne patrol]

wat is the meta for get tons of silver pen ?

[near lichen]

My po is neglected because I'm waiting for decent pen rate, but I also haven't wasted any time on it

[near lichen]

Active dk with choc chip

[nocturne patrol]

and if i dont have choc chip ?

[near lichen]

Wait three weeks

Chip is in rotation in 24 days

[bleak gazelle]

ah shit, i gotta work on my alt to get choco

[nocturne patrol]

Okay ty

[loud widget]

What are the resources to get choco?

[split meteor]

Omg good idea ace my peakgaming quest alt would love a choco chip

[thorny comet]

how do pepole getting there refinery rank so high it take years

[carmine hearth]

Refinery cycles for me are really fast

[bleak gazelle]

omniphau procs

[thorny comet]

no i mean to rank them up

[near lichen]

Refinery speed increases, omniphau, the fact rank up cost stops scaling around 25, and taking years

[bleak gazelle]

faster cycles means faster rank ups wdym

[carmine hearth]

Yeah, I get thousands of cycles per day

I just need to rank them up

Which still takes days

[thorny comet]

ok so i got it worng but how i do 1 cycle per 3m 3sec

[glad isle]

manually boxes are better than pens

[near lichen]

Probably lab plus a couple other things

[glad isle]

unless big pen amt

[near lichen]

Rank up cost caps at a million iirc

[glad isle]

they get a lot higher

[bleak gazelle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=refinery (sp|cy)

[near lichen]

Rank up costs or smth about pens?

[marsh plinth]

why can't there be a quickref menu for everything

I wish to not move from my spot

[split meteor]

Wow did not know salt rank up caps i thought 19+ was near impossible

[glad isle]

rank up costs

in refinery

[near lichen]

The wiki says the cap is 1m

[bleak gazelle]

23 is when it starts to get faster due to being capped at 1m

[near lichen]

Which is how it's possible to get hundreds of ranks

[split meteor]

Right i was under the impression it became infinitely harder between where im at and 19

[carmine hearth]

I like that quick ref is limited, although I wish sailing was on the ref 😭

[marsh plinth]

what's the funky little shield next to my order streak

[bleak gazelle]

at some point you get limited by resource cost instead of salt cost

[near lichen]

Only 326 times longer to hit 20 vs 2

If you never upgrade cycle speed

Not on the wiki but estimating 20k cycles to rank up from 22-23

[split meteor]

Damn you have good eyes on ya

[near lichen]

Streak protection, let you keep streak but keeps the cost increase, you can use a pen to remove it

[thorny comet]

come pepole come the pizza 1 world 4 and dance for achivment

[marsh plinth]

cost increase?

[near lichen]

Orders cost more based on the streak up to 100 iirc

[marsh plinth]

do rewards get better?

[thorny comet]

we need 0 more for achivment

[carmine hearth]

Rewards and costs cap at 100

[marsh plinth]

the rewards don't seem to get much better

weapon upgrade stone I 😔

[carmine hearth]

You get slightly more, the chances are the same

So you get more garbage

[thorny comet]

i will come help even tho i got it

[marsh plinth]

what's this achievement

[thorny comet]

dance party

[forest wolf]

Thanks

[marsh plinth]

oh got it

[nocturne patrol]

Ty for this +2% arcade ball aha

[void wing]

What are some good quests to do on all of ur characters?

for candies and stuff

[modern fog]

Is it a display glitch that Artcis + Harriep with Doot only displays the star rather than the swirl, or does that combo not work anymore if you have Doot?

[stable parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/pookiebd-pookie-pookie-the-dog-gifgari-bangladeshi-gif-21463133

[fallow aurora]

usually a visual glitch when u active dk

[neat siren]

arctis when someone says arctis

[hexed grotto]

He mispronounced the name

Or he was just calling for someone else

[stable parrot]

It’s okay I forgive him

[neat siren]

clearly he was saying artist

[hexed grotto]

The one who got rejected from art school?

[neat siren]

erm

[modern fog]

Artcis, the non-trans artist

[neat siren]

real

[fallow aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/observing-polar-bear-destination-wild-staring-observing-watching-gif-20526037

[neat siren]

arctis face reveal

[hybrid steppe]

just got world 5 are the divinities for all characters or i need to do them on each

[neat siren]

you need to do them on each

but god unlocks are account wide

[hybrid steppe]

thanks

is the pet doot op for it?

[hexed grotto]

Did someone say doot?

[hybrid steppe]

i saw it unlock all at once

[neat siren]

yes

check pins there's an image for it

[split meteor]

Doots ok but its no choco chip for sure

[quiet moon]

???

[neat siren]

???

[split meteor]

Sorry i just like being stupid on purpose

[neat siren]

i would take doot over choco chip every single time

[near lichen]

I wouldn't, with the hole doot is less important

[split meteor]

Yeah and and and doot is only useful after w5 so what do you do until then not kill crystals 😨

Still joking

[quiet moon]

ye but hes f2p now so who cares

[near lichen]

Only if someone gives him to you

[quiet moon]

ye

[split meteor]

Noone even likes div anyway

[terse furnace]

Dootless 😭

[terse furnace]

Div and lab are kind of just unfun tbh

[split meteor]

And killing crystal after crystal is awesome 😎

[hexed grotto]

Killing is awesome

[thorny comet]

look what i have to do for 5% damge

[buoyant lintel]

I 1st tried W2 dungeon and 2 tried W3 dungeon

[calm bison]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[void wing]

!merit3

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[void wing]

!merit2

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2️⃣ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3️⃣ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4️⃣ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5️⃣ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6️⃣ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7️⃣ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8️⃣ EXP Converter is not worth using.
⚔️ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.

[void wing]

!merit 1

!merit1

[obtuse orbit]

🛡️ Hemoglobin is a great way to increase survivability allowing you to push new maps faster. How much you need it will depend on factors like your equipment, progress in the W2 clicker and dungeon shop purchases. 3 points straight away with all 10 being bought by the start of W3 will probably be a good balance for most people.
1️⃣ The first 3 pieces of Amarok Gear are boots, pants and a chestplate giving decent defense and lots of upgrade slots making them great bang for your buck. A significant amount of people use this gear all the way to W4 or W5. Make sure to use the best upgrade stones you can. Recrafting Amarok Gear so you can apply better stones in the future is a good idea. The boxing gloves needed for task 3 can be crafted by reclaiming the crimson string from the quest list.
2️⃣ Bosses can give lots of great resources such as Amarok Slabs for armor and the Amarok Card giving skill afk gains. At max lvl you can expect to get two thirds of a kill extra for every key you use.
3️⃣ More respawn equals more kills and loot.
4️⃣ Your lowest leveled character isn't high priority. Can be a bit helpful but non-essential.
5️⃣ The last two Amarok recipes are a helmet requiring 5 rare Woodular Circles and a pendant requiring 25 Distilled Water and 4 Chaotic Amarok Slabs. They are about as good as the other pieces of equipment but at a much steeper price making it debatable if they are worth it at all.
6️⃣ You've gotten these bags before and can do so again while getting some extra rewards allowing you to spend your merit points on better upgrades.
⚔️ The star talents gives extra class xp or food effect. The former gives just +6.67% for 100 points but the latter can have a large effect on potions and skilling food. Put 1 point here when you start killing Baba Yaga. The other points are low priority since you can get good books without them.

[thorny comet]

!merit 6

!merit6

[obtuse orbit]

⚠️ WARNING: Currently you can't get enough merit points to get everything. Don't buy the talent points.
1️⃣ First 3 purchases give plots making Farming a lot faster.
2️⃣ Summoning Winner Bonuses are very influential at all stages.
3️⃣ Farming mainly for OG chance. Can be swapped with Jade Gain if you prioritize Sneaking more.
4️⃣ Jade Gain is placed low because getting all Jade Emporium purchases is easier than all crops in Farming and since Farming buffs Sneaking.
5️⃣ Mob respawn last. Doesn't save much time. Can be done earlier if you have finished Farming and Sneaking.
⏳ Unreleased. Priority unknown but likely high if/when you can buy them.
⛔ Don't get the talent points even if you have points to spare. The recipes will be higher priority when released.

[novel mural]

guys, use #bot-commands

[marsh plinth]

lab EXP and Efficiency both just increase lab exp right?

[torn dagger]

if its specifically lab exp yes and efficiency only boosts exp yeah

[bleak gazelle]

especially if you're doing non-channel merits

[thorny comet]

wth is that item

[bleak gazelle]

dungeon ring, can probably be replaced by w1 shop boss damage ring now though

we'll get around to re-updating the gear command next year

[thorny comet]

so what armor i should have in world 5 void?

[near lichen]

Whatevers easy to craft

Amarok with w5 stones is enough

[buoyant lintel]

prob void

that also works

[thorny comet]

nah amarok?

[buoyant lintel]

%defense + crazy amount of stone slots

the base defense aint even bad

[near lichen]

I can't push w6 past map 4 or 5 yet, but I have chars wearing no armor that can farm xp on w6 maps

[torn dagger]

Im still amarok with no stones and im doing fine but making better armor will help you damage wise

[thorny comet]

ok

[buoyant lintel]

not by much, armor for damage is not great

[novel mural]

ace while I was making dinner, I looked at my tome stuff, guess what I did goblin no duplicates up to 130

[near lichen]

Imo you shouldn't need more than a day or two to get the resources for armor

[torn dagger]

every little thing helps

[buoyant lintel]

it's unrealistic to hit multi-kill in W5, so just do the bare minimum

[thorny comet]

i should do chizor on the mastqio for the luck right?

[near lichen]

Time would be better spent improving skilling in alch

[buoyant lintel]

sure?? it's not that much better tbh

[thorny comet]

i want to get the scarf for the buffs

[buoyant lintel]

scarf is first drop table

[thorny comet]

oh and?

[buoyant lintel]

Jman rare drop buff doesnt affect it

[thorny comet]

oh so i dosnt matter rly

[split parcel]

Do I go for 50% or only 100% on divinity? I don’t like taking chances on a 50%

[buoyant lintel]

there's 35% if you really want it

[near lichen]

I think average luck 50% is better

[buoyant lintel]

this for archers

[novel mural]

or just use maestro for bosses

[buoyant lintel]

100% is better since you dont have to roll for it again, average luck is better for 100%

[near lichen]

1/4 chance for it to take three+ chances

[thorny comet]

half way

[torn dagger]

luck helps but having actual drop rate is the main source

[buoyant lintel]

at 4x the cost (2x for 100%)

[buoyant lintel]

talking about divinity

[near lichen]

1/8 for 150% cost, 1/16 for 200% cost. Etc

[glad isle]

just do ur 1 and 5 until 100

on ther side

[buoyant lintel]

just do 100% it's usually better

[split parcel]

Got it, thanks guys

[glad isle]

u need to get the 100 % first

might take a few 1%

[buoyant lintel]

worth

[novel mural]

up from 340k~

[glad isle]

pog

[brave fable]

always gotta be better huh

[glad isle]

whatever this is i don't get better

[novel mural]

this aint even a competition waffle

[glad isle]

bad pulls

[brave fable]

sigh

[novel mural]

btw I'm still using chiz on everyone, you are in divine/marbi/god

only weapons are upgraded

[glad isle]

alchemy what can i say

[brave fable]

i mean thats just salt lock

[novel mural]

gotta love alchemy

[glad isle]

what else to do when salt lock

[marsh plinth]

will active afk'er benefit alchemy if I afk fighting

[royal patio]

How do I get these dragon statues everyone is talking about

[near lichen]

Cc doesn't work afk

[novel mural]

I'll probably do tools first, dunno how long 40k nullo salt will last for

[torn dagger]

only if you close the game or switch character

[glad isle]

tool

[torn dagger]

even if you leave auto on you are active on the character you cant "active afk"

[lilac heart]

does efficiency work on lab/divinity?

[brave fable]

have some i dont need anymore

[near lichen]

God I wish that were me

[glad isle]

i feel like u aren't w3 waffle

[brave fable]

genuinely dont need anymore unless i want to craft more troll sets or recraft skulls/traps

[glad isle]

when name change

[novel mural]

waffle can you show your refinery

[marsh plinth]

yeah I'm aware

[royal patio]

im on w6 and I don't even have purple salts

[bitter echo]

for vman speedruns you use multikill per tier cards and what else? just damage?

[brave fable]

uh

[near lichen]

Probably also depends on if you're sampling

[brave fable]

thats just cus progress is faster now

[novel mural]

yeah damage, mk/t if you have good ones + amarok for sampling

oh and if you have afk gain premium gear, use those if you sample

way better than damage, tested it myself a few weeks ago

[near lichen]

I go all in on maxing samples since I primarily speedrun for sampling

[novel mural]

sexy

[brave fable]

i hate green it takes so long

[novel mural]

yeah same problem here

I'm not even generating purple + nullo rn cuz I've rushed those 2, now fixing green

not a huge deficit but I definitely feel it's off balance

[brave fable]

i experienced a deficit for the first time in a while with my green salts last cycle and had to wait 4 days before rankup

well it wasnt rly 4 days cus i proc'd omni but still

[novel mural]

yeah omni pops are the best

[brave fable]

let me see if i can get a few more 12 hr refinery procs

[novel mural]

havent done any gaming for a couple of days

never getting rid of these chemicals

[brave fable]

i hate gaming my snail got fucked

[novel mural]

what lvl is it now

[brave fable]

11

i reset from 14 to 10 like 3 times now

[novel mural]

[brave fable]

worst part is it was at 14 and not resetting for 2 freakin weeks

[glad isle]

why not

what they do to u

[marsh plinth]

are there any special talents that give accuracy

[brave fable]

they take a while to get rid of

[bleak gazelle]

and are you going to start banking mail now?

[brave fable]

instantly give gaming progress

[glad isle]

more clicking?

[brave fable]

no

whats the point of banking when i can just ignore gaming for another month 😂

ive done it before ill just do it again!

[novel mural]

they grow back

[nocturne patrol]

hope i get a nugget upgrade with this chem

[glad isle]

im jealous of chems

i need them

[glad isle]

show super bit section

uwu

[nocturne patrol]

idk if i bank for pong

[glad isle]

ur like 2 more upgrades than me lmao

[glad isle]

go pong

get 10k score

[nocturne patrol]

wat is cooldown on pong ?

[glad isle]

dunno

just do ur pong

[novel mural]

poing has no cd

[glad isle]

great

spam pong when lose

get better at pong

free bits

[nocturne patrol]

gonna have to do a game with 0 for achieve too

[glad isle]

i didn't know that

broken controller
lmao

[novel mural]

for good measure, I've been doing gaming since that

12 🙂

[glad isle]

soon

[novel mural]

nah

back to babysitting farming

[brave fable]

how

[novel mural]

stacking speed evo until glassy

after that boosting daymarket for a while

[brave fable]

oh i forgot i was doing that

[novel mural]

[brave fable]

i’m done with second crop

starting third

[novel mural]

second crop?

[brave fable]

i mean seed

[novel mural]

ah nice nice

[brave fable]

i’ve been going slow tho for plots

it still takes hella time to grow

[novel mural]

yeah, Scoli told me to check ar for possible fixes

so I've bumped my speed evo from 2.4% to 7.2%

[brave fable]

damn

how long it take you grow for one cycle

[novel mural]

right now

[brave fable]

that’s wild

hopefully i can get my speed gmo up once i trade beans

[novel mural]

I still have some basic crop upgrades in daymarket and I have guaranteed OG up till 16x(?)

[brave fable]

i don’t mind going slow now tho as long as it gets faster later

[novel mural]

yeah well, farming is timegated early on, I couldnt do shit either for a long time

so Scoli

[brave fable]

7 min for first seed

[novel mural]

can you make a full 1k batch with 1 harvest without og?

[brave fable]

nah i need a mix of 2-4x og

on all my plots

[novel mural]

are you using db with farming passives?

[brave fable]

so its going slow cus i keep forgetting to claim

[novel mural]

db land rank boost is wild

[brave fable]

im going to farm bones once i finish gfood and maybe a lil cc

[brave fable]

i have to chrck scoli on how to dist those points

[novel mural]

my land rank point distribution is all over the place, I can show if you wanna see it

[brave fable]

its going to make me feel bad

[novel mural]

I went mostly into OG/crop value/evo chance and a ton of land rank xp

[brave fable]

and sad

[brave fable]

i have second to last in 2nd row unlocked

[novel mural]

land rank xp

utilized the hell out of it

high rank crops give so much xp

[brave fable]

ill be back online later im going to get a quick pump

[novel mural]

take care

[frank shore]

is DB lvl 400 good enough to farm in wraith?

[robust stream]

What should I buy with my gems?

[novel mural]

search for Tony gemshop tierlist

[manic pivot]

Gents - are both gaming and sailing shared levels accross all chars on the account?

[novel mural]

if you check skill tab, it'll also show you this

[manic pivot]

Ah I see it

[novel mural]

where you dont see this, that skill is character specific

[manic pivot]

Thank you

[novel mural]

@glad isle as I've said, impossible

huh, another nugget upgrade

[thorny comet]

guys i am doing some chizor run and it seem i am getting everthing expept the scarf😭

[novel mural]

you got a somewhat good dr obol page for personal + family?

[thorny comet]

i got his diamond obol

[novel mural]

that doesnt matter, thats damage

[thorny comet]

yea 4% damge

[novel mural]

yes, dr stands for drop rate/drop rarity

[thorny comet]

but i want the scarf with his 40% damge and 6% mob respawn

[manic island]

yes but higher DR gives you more chance to get it

I forget, can you stack dks orb or ess portal for dr before a boss fight? I think I remember someone saying that

[novel mural]

nope

thats why you want to do bosses on vman

and vman has extra card chances, win win

[thorny comet]

i guess next week i will try agien after i will have more keys

it rarer from the scarf😭

[bleak gazelle]

that do be the rng

[thorny comet]

look at this rob

[glad isle]

get it

good acho

[crimson bison]

unclear if this is the right place. I got pocket divinity set to Arctis. However my characters that are using Gohaurt are not getting divinity gains. Is that expected?

[thorny comet]

sadly i am far beind and lvl 80 cogs are not in the range

[lilac vault]

yeah, that combo doesn't work lol

you need to physically be in lab for goharut to work

[crimson bison]

Is that the case for doot as well?

[manic island]

yes

[real ridge]

is there a list of possible combinations with % for meals? I would like to know if there is a way to aim for cheese with my current spices

[lilac vault]

not even dooters can escape lab/div/hole jails

[crimson bison]

lol jails. so true

[thorny comet]

there better rarity the cog the more exp it give?

[bleak gazelle]

IT and Wiki both have spice combos

[real ridge]

what does IT stand for? Toolbox?

[bleak gazelle]

and sorry, meant IE, not IT

idk why IT doesn't actually have recipes

[bitter echo]

I need to pump my damage up as i think i might get stuck on 180 orb on rift 43... my damage on dk is only like 230b

[real ridge]

dayum, was using IT, now checked IE, and apparently I can get plenty of meals somewhat easily

thanks a lot o7

[near lichen]

Higher rarity cogn have better boosts and directions and are more likely to have higher modifiers

[bitter echo]

also certain modifiers can only appear on higher cogs

[near lichen]

That's what I meant by better boosts, I think xp needs purple, maybe red

[thorny comet]

i need xp

[bitter echo]

xp is red and purple, but as you can see theyre much stronger on purple

[thorny comet]

is there a big chance between the yello and the red?

[near lichen]

You can't get xp boost cogs or row/column cogs in yellow

The base xp stat is about equal right when you unlock them though

Adjusted for build time

[orchid moss]

[novel mural]

@bleak gazelle if I reach 200% on snail, is it possible to get 3 mails/day?

[novel mural]

thats kinda sexy

thanks

[near lichen]

Should you adjust the island you're targetting based on the available trades or just the best island and wait to get lucky?

[void wing]

how does tampered injection work on bubo?

[orchid moss]

dont use it

it's trash

[void wing]

ah fr?

[bitter echo]

well damn it, i only got 22 on wormhole for rift lmao, im probably months off this one

[orchid moss]

slows down your skill cycle when you start doing cc

[bitter echo]

that sucks cus its the last wall before ruby cards

[void wing]

im trapped on the rift where you need to get 180 on divine orb

[near lichen]

It might increase afk kills? Still slows cc tho

[void wing]

oh alright ty!!!!

[orchid moss]

afk bubo

[bitter echo]

i was close to failing that, i booked literally everything on my dk, and auto almost choked it cause i ended up staggered on spawns so the DK respawn mechanic stopped triggering halfway through

[near lichen]

Can only active one char at a time 🤷‍♀️

But needing to remember to take it off the bar is a recipe for slow ccs

[void wing]

for bubo do I focus chemical warfare flatulent spirit or raise dead

[orchid moss]

i mean id just leave bubo in a jail while activing someone else

[orchid moss]

you need all of those up

eventually

tenteyecle 200 is most important tho

[near lichen]

If you don't have the talent points then farm levels/skills if you want to do cc

[bitter echo]

Do people actually use w6 stones, i feel like with my rng ill fail 2 and then it becomes worse than using w5 stones

[orchid moss]

yes with average rng it's always better than other stones

[void wing]

ye im tryna up the max talent book level for my library to hit level 200 tenteyecle

[near lichen]

On average it's better, especially with guild bonuses

[orchid moss]

oh yea the guild buff is big

[bitter echo]

well ive got below average rng, 2 bravery runs in a row now that ive lost my sword stacking with a 10% max roll requirement XD

[orchid moss]

just stop greeding 🙂

[near lichen]

Bravery mastery when 🙏

[bitter echo]

it was 4426 hp, i was 48k max dmg, and i failed it, i didnt think 10% was greedy

[orchid moss]

i think the safe cutoff is 5% of max dmg but usually people greed

[near lichen]

It probably depends on how many waves you have

[bitter echo]

well i listened, and failed 2 upgrade stones on my shiny new staff at 83% 🙂

[near lichen]

Optimally the chance of failure is lower than all the lost levels

[bitter echo]

ima stick to w5 stones XD

[orchid moss]

losing out on free stats

[bitter echo]

i lost out here though due to failing 2

[bleak gazelle]

failing 2 is fine, you're still ahead
failing 3 can sometimes still be better depending on how many slots the item has

[near lichen]

Upgrade the staff or make another and try again, you only lose gambling when you quit (this is terrible life advice)

[bitter echo]

i may have used a w5 stone initially so its a staff with 1 w5 and 2 w6s

[orchid moss]

[near lichen]

Hitting that sweet sweet 25% or 1% chance

Wait that's not math but close enough

[nocturne patrol]

uwu

[near lichen]

You should close the game right now, nothing bad will happen

[orchid moss]

https://tenor.com/view/enid-misinformation-sleeping-ok-ko-meme-gif-26460368

[near lichen]

Me rn fr fr

Except it might be ok if the quest remembers you got it

[nocturne patrol]

u get daily ribbon with db wtf

[fast sage]

For this one I had to manually do. Speed potions for movement speed helped a lot, started with putting the apprentice statue guy at the bottom, then I got a second cooldown that I used in the platform between the middle area that managed to get 2 platforms at once. Also make sure that the skill that respawns mobs faster is on so that once you clear all of them they respawn basically straight away. I ended up managing with dementia gear + ice weapon at level 141 orbs

[void wing]

ah kk ty!

[graceful lily]

just entered world 5, are there any mechanics that help with more accuracy like in gaming, sailing, or divinity? or is the accuracy just in alchemy still?

[novel mural]

vault, alchemy, stamps, worship

[graceful lily]

how does worship help with accuracy?

[novel mural]

do you have any prayers?

[graceful lily]

yea i have a few prayers, which one is for accuracy?

[novel mural]

idk which prayers you have, check them in w3 town

[fast sage]

is daily ribbons worth it?

[wary nymph]

When do I hit level up ?

[novel mural]

otherwise, #bot-commands and ?wiki Worship

[graceful lily]

oh wait yea, thanks i didnt know a prayer gave out accuracy

[carmine hearth]

I believe, on average, the best choice is always level up snail and never encourage

[bitter echo]

alright, 34/60 for rift wormhole, no chance i clear this

[eager bridge]

so I got most my characters in the lab/div jail at the moment... when is it worth to switch over to afk'ing in bravery? I haven't done anything in it yet since everyone been stuck there

[cloud flame]

thats only on early lvls

20-25 its different

[cloud flame]

uhh any time you really feel like it, i finished div jail and did 2k monument hours in hole

[hybrid steppe]

how do i select captain?

[potent owl]

Are the buckets at The Well supposed to give materials and expand full bars while you're offline? Because mine didn't didn't give me anything while I wasn't playing, and it definitely should have if it's supposed to gather stuff when you're offline
And yes, the expand at full bars button was enabled

[potent owl]

And you need to click the boat, and then the captain you want in it

And drag them to the boat

[rancid garden]

they expand once upon logging in

[cloud flame]

they can only expand while youre online

[rancid garden]

as in, expand a single time

[cloud flame]

but you still gain resources while offline

[hybrid steppe]

but where i click the captain?

[potent owl]

Really? That's lame

[cloud flame]

on the dock, its behind the crystal pet in the screenshot

[hybrid steppe]

and here where do i click?

[orchid moss]

cloud discover rate

[potent owl]

So you need to constantly have the game running to expand the bars more than once? Or constantly check in if you want them to expand?

[cloud flame]

yea basically

[potent owl]

That kinda sucks

[orchid moss]

[hybrid steppe]

how do i increase it?

[light jay]

what should my div farm look like (i am considering leaving some people at the monument but no idea how many people i should take off the div farm)

[orchid moss]

you should do div jail before hole jail

imo

[light jay]

well

[orchid moss]

unless you have doot

[light jay]

ive gotten up to nobisect

[orchid moss]

then just lvl 2 div on everyone and hole jail

[orchid moss]

id get to goat then stop

[light jay]

when is goat?

[orchid moss]

or lvl 40 div on everyone

[potent owl]

Well do you gain divinity xp while active, or do you only gain xp and points while you're offline/ on another character?

[fast sage]

5th divinity unlock

[orchid moss]

offline, don't check div frequently when you're starting out otherwise you lose gains

[light jay]

you lose div gains especially when checking actively at low lvls of div gain

[orchid moss]

honestly it's probably better to just get to purrmiep but that takes a while so if you want to do other stuff with your chars just get to goat at least

[orchid moss]

wrong reply methinks

[light jay]

kinda

i was replying to that agreeing with you

[fast sage]

Do i want to afk div -> goat then labs to 75 before monument afk? I feel like im locked out of a lot of content just for these hard afk gains

[potent owl]

Some of these W5 things just don't seem to go well together
The well and buckets and sailing requires you to check in frequently, but divinity wants you to not check in all that much

[orchid moss]

i would do that

[bitter echo]

div 40 is the milestone as it lets you get div xp whilst not doing div

[novel mural]

you can still push a character or just rotate them

[orchid moss]

yea w5 is just the world of jails it is what it is

[bitter echo]

however, i did diverge off it now and then just cause its a long grind

[novel mural]

you dont have to leave your account for weeks

[fast sage]

is it better then to get to div 40 before lab locking? or can i get to div 40 through goat and labs?

[bitter echo]

i just had 9 in lab/div jail and was playing on my ES grinding cards, obols etc etc

[light jay]

ok but i should probably get up to 80 hours on monument right? (so do idk 1.5 days on most characters on that and then go back to div)

[orchid moss]

if you have goat just put them in lab

[orchid moss]

up to u

[light jay]

considering

cause more dps + more benefits whenever i do the runs

• it would only take idk a day and a quarter or smth

[fast sage]

I have alchemy avg like 30/40, Do i wanna prioritise farming matts for them while doing div or just take the time to focus on the cards/obols y'all reckon?

[orchid moss]

are you planning on doing onyx grind?

[fast sage]

eventually yeah, but I wouldn't say it's high on the priority list

[orchid moss]

dont really need to focus cards/obols super hard if not

alch is just an over time thing until you get bubo cooking

[fast sage]

Im just trying to figure out what would snowball my account atm the most effectively while locked out lol. Im like mid w5 and im currently happy on stamps being 3k for time being

[orchid moss]

pushing to w6 👍

idk lowkey when you're doing jails its kinda just pushing and doing whatever horizontal progression you can

but yea to answer your question if you cant push/dont want to you could active farm for gstacks and alch

tbh cant really go wrong with working on stuff like alch

working on it is already better than 90% of people who rush w6 with everything neglected(me)

[fast sage]

oh, should i also be prioritising levels for cooking at this point as well? I haven't touched that yet, kinda relying on the gem pack atm to level the meals up. I think ill switch to another class meantime then to push worlds, currently on bb which probably isn't optimal

[orchid moss]

if you make less than 500 ladles a day dont cook

early ladle gains are dog poopoo

there's like a ton of cooking spd buffs now so it shouldnt be too hard to catch up

[fast sage]

I don't even know how ladles work lmao :x

[orchid moss]

it just gives you cooking progress

[viral granite]

its like candy

for cooking

[orchid moss]

try to unlock as many meals as you can, shouldn't be too hard with vault buffs

[fast sage]

Yeah, currently working on my breeding and trying to get more of them unlocked atm

[orchid moss]

[fast sage]

also, tried to get an answer earlier, but is the db bundle for daily ribbons worth?

[orchid moss]

i mean the bundle is good

worth it is subjective lol

[fast sage]

I guess it's just another passive timegate, probably can do without. Gonna save it for the pet bundle and try for doot 😌

[orchid moss]

dont you get pet crystals with db pack

[fast sage]

you do, but im pretty sure theres another pack with more? I forgot

[orchid moss]

yea that ones kinda mid tho

cape is mid af

[fast sage]

oh wait, I thought there was one with like 4k+ turns out they're basically nearly all the same... hmmmm

[orchid moss]

if you're going to buy packs db is definitely one of the good ones imo

also you get to cheat and unlock ribbons early if you dont have db 💀

[fast sage]

I've only got the sacred methods pack atm, might be a nice second bundle tbf

[orchid moss]

sacred methods so op

[fast sage]

it is, carried me quite a bit

[twin idol]

did someone answer this?

[wary nymph]

someone said to always hit lvl up. I kind of trusted him 😂

[orchid moss]

i think someone said that was wrong right after tho

[fast sage]

I bought it 😌