lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[red loom]

Nahhh that be the same as me haha, I was at like 1k bubbles until recently

[proper solstice]

I forgot to put my boots on 💀

+2k-3k logs from that

[frail comet]

yeah been working on my bubbles for the last 2 weeks and im at about 5k rn

[red loom]

I didn’t even do cooking or breeding till I was at w6

[void shell]

Just having it helps push forge progress any time your sb or bm kills a mob, just nice to have

[red loom]

Ohh nice nice

I’m still working on it, I’m kinda too lazy tho

I’m just sitting in bravery

[frail comet]

same with stamps my total was like 500 up until recently

almost 5k on stamps as well

[proper solstice]

good wood gains here I come

[red loom]

Oop my stamps were at 4.5k I think

Only thing that I leveled up

[frail comet]

started working on both of them at the same time and bubbles at 5.4 and stamps at 4.8

[red loom]

Wait no I lied it’s 3k

[red loom]

Oo nice nice

I’ll work on them eventually

[proper solstice]

gonna lvl 7 that vial while im at it

maybe a bit more

[frail comet]

im still ignoring vials im not ready for more alchemy

[red loom]

😭 😭

[proper solstice]

its only lvl 5 rn

[proper solstice]

im close to this

[red loom]

I just did the first few vials to 13 for the extra cauldron speed

[red loom]

Noice

[frail comet]

unlocking them is fine but i am NOT wasting liquids on them

[red loom]

[proper solstice]

I waste my spare liquids on them when I cant afford bubbles mats wise

or to lvl 4 for my shaman to be happy

and some of the better bonuses I focus for the stats

[frail comet]

im locked on liquids rn on my bubbles since i started working on them so late i have tons of mats but not that many liquids

[orchid moss]

rushing w5 goated for alch

fury relic for bubo

[proper solstice]

I need to start doing 2min claims for bars

[orchid moss]

u need that many bars?

thats crazy

[proper solstice]

its my weakest big bubble for skilling w1-2

[frail comet]

sailing is so timelocked its annoying

[proper solstice]

true

[orchid moss]

put everyone you can spare on omni and grind out golden hampters

[red loom]

Thas why I love the lil elephant god

So helpful

[orchid moss]

omni proc + dk gaming proc + hampter proc so satisfying

[frail comet]

not when it all goes to cooking 😔

[red loom]

Fr 😔

[orchid moss]

cooking progress good ngl

[frail comet]

its so mid when i can get the same progress for like 5 ladles

[red loom]

^

[orchid moss]

yea but then you would have to use 5 ladles

[red loom]

[coral perch]

I feel like there is so much to do to my account

But idk what I should do

[red loom]

1 thing at a time

[orchid moss]

or just do a jail and log off the game

[finite bay]

YO, i forgot that you can make more than 7 characters

[void shell]

Nothing like 3d print and refinery procs

[finite bay]

whats the best dupes

[frail comet]

i get 5 ladles in like minutes, its fine getting the extra progress for cooking but when i claim afk for 10 hours and get cooking, it hurts when i know i can get it in like 5 mins

[void shell]

dk, es, sb

[coral perch]

Das what Im doin rm

[finite bay]

godspeed

[orchid moss]

yea i mean i agree that cooking is the worst proc but i dont think it's that bad

[proper solstice]

5 ladels is like 1 hr or less

[coral perch]

Could get nobi in 2 day

[frail comet]

not bad but in contrast it sucks

[coral perch]

Maybe

[orchid moss]

yea thats fair

[orchid moss]

if you get 5 ladels in 1 hr u gotta stop making ladels lol

[frail comet]

im filled with happiness whenever i get like 9 hours of sailing

[red loom]

[orchid moss]

need refinery procs

leveling nullo is a pain

[frail comet]

refinery goated as well

sailing and refinery definitely the best ones

[orchid moss]

breeding is pretty good too

[frail comet]

3d prints is good for atoms too

basically all but cooking 😭

[orchid moss]

oh thanks for reminding me to press 3d print skill on vman

[frail comet]

yeah totally remembered it myself

[proper solstice]

I just checked it I dont actually do it

[frail comet]

5 ladles in 1 day

[proper solstice]

💀

[orchid moss]

wait i swear you get more than 5 if you just use skill eff card

[proper solstice]

yea dont go for it if its that bad

[frail comet]

vman skill is goated for cooking

it racks up so fast

[proper solstice]

5 ladels/hr is pretty high for me rn

[coral perch]

Why cant my ie public profile update

[proper solstice]

If i had vman id do that

[proper solstice]

4 hr limit moment

[frail comet]

get vman

[coral perch]

Last I update is 2 days ago

[proper solstice]

have been working on it

[void shell]

I only make 600 ladles per day , divinity arc for multitool stamp incoming

[frail comet]

im about similar and i dont have multitool either, swear cant be bothered leveling divinity

[coral perch]

Did it today, it goes to cd but my public profile still say last updated is 6th of March

[orchid moss]

i need to do super chows

[void shell]

fr, but like, I'm lazy to think about what to do so I just shoved everyone into lab

[orchid moss]

just do hole jail

[void shell]

But hole is extra boring

[orchid moss]

yea lab is definitely not boring

🗿

[void shell]

At least when I claim lab gains, I see all the shiny stuff in w4 town glimmering

[frail comet]

brick wall vs brick wall

[orchid moss]

im so close to justice

[void shell]

The cool jewel spinner, the random ahh pets, the weird mainframe, the funny meals

[frail comet]

does the harp actually do anything useful

[sick bramble]

for showing respect. what counts as afk?

[orchid moss]

being afk

dont check between hours because it rounds down

[orchid moss]

notes are used for like a ton of upgrades in hole

and u can get opals as well obv

[frank shore]

when do i get skill eff

[orchid moss]

w5 shop has tome pages

oh wait i cant read

uh i have no idea lol

[orchid moss]

idk just keep playing and you'll get it eventually

[frank shore]

i love balls

[proper solstice]

literally 50~150 away

[light jay]

in what regards?

[frank shore]

balls

[light jay]

gambling is the better answer

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-kinji-hakari-domain-expansion-idle-death-gamble-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-9301535643269377399

[frank shore]

damn 500 balls got me 2.4k gold balls

did my balls give me the4se ???

bruh 11 attempts to combine a single obol -.-

gf all those

[raven isle]

damn that sucks

[frank shore]

sucks balls

[kind peak]

should i leave someone afk-ing the monument in w5?

[orchid moss]

ye if they done with lab and div jail

[frank shore]

i cba with lab bro it's so sad

feel like i'm an old man now and only lvl 38

[orchid moss]

get those rings and boots

[frank shore]

interesting idea

[nocturne patrol]

try to get meal for lab xp too

[light jay]

how do you use the polyeithism skill?

[orchid moss]

[light jay]

thx

[frank shore]

damn those are some meals, need to figure out how to get those

[orchid moss]

do your spice battles

and then consult wiki on meals

[frank shore]

frosty peaks fucking me up

[orchid moss]

you might need diff pets

[void shell]

Time the shield

[orchid moss]

also that but timing the shield doesnt really matter if u just die after

[lilac heart]

dont leave on over night?

[void shell]

Why would you just die afterwards

[frank shore]

bro i didn't know there was a scrollbar...

[sturdy helm]

Wait when you get a opal in a monument does that reduce the chance you have of getting another opal

[orchid moss]

yes

[light jay]

so uh

how would you go about increasing acc in w5?

[frank shore]

what should my team be for fighting arena?

[void shell]

Accuracy problems still.. exist?

Just spam shaquracy bubblr

[void shell]

No nutto?

[light jay]

heh i literally cant because im a bit broke on resources!

[void shell]

What level is it?

[stable parrot]

Vault and roo

[void shell]

Dungeons

[orchid moss]

someone summon the copypasta

[stable parrot]

Make amarok armor with secondary stat w4 stones

[light jay]

need to reduce price by upgrading the cost stuff on the cauldron

[stuck river]

Chat can we prefarm dragon warrior statues

[void shell]

Should be able tp hit like 45 though right? That's a decent stopping point

[light jay]

15 so still relatively low

(not enough bloaches)

[void shell]

15.. in w5?

Are you printing them?

[light jay]

uhhhh you got a point

[orchid moss]

lvl 15 is crazy

[void shell]

Have you resampled since you 1st got the printer or..

[light jay]

i have resampled

[void shell]

Even 200 per hour would be good for pushing shaquracy up

[orchid moss]

isnt it like under 1k bloaches to upgrade at lvl 15

[void shell]

Dungeons is pretty feasible to do for defense, about 50 w1 runs and you get 50% accuracy

[orchid moss]

only 50 runs

💀

[void shell]

I had to do a few hundred non-boosted runs to do the equinox

[stable parrot]

Does the person needing acc have a set of amarok gear stoned with secondary stats?

[void shell]

Most of my w1 dungeon cards are 4 star already

[void shell]

idk

[stable parrot]

That’s probably the piece they’re missing, have them do that, I’ll brb

[void shell]

Rings too

Maybe a few iron tools will work too

[orchid moss]

i still havent done that one

[light jay]

aint happening 9 per hour on bloaches is crazy

[orchid moss]

but i gotta do w3 dung at some point for the achievements anyway

[void shell]

W3 is pretty easy tbh

It's pretty boring though

[split meteor]

my samples were terrible a few weeks ago, had no sample rate.. snowball vial = amazing sample rate booster?

[nocturne patrol]

buy item in w2 and go to poppy the kangaroo

[void shell]

Yeah, pretty good

[nocturne patrol]

free acc

[orchid moss]

royal sampler >>>>

[void shell]

Royal sampler if you haven't

[split meteor]

that was mostly before i found autoreview... at 80% sampl rate now c:

[void shell]

Nice

[split meteor]

just helping fella with low sample rate out

low sample*

[light jay]

small issue roo takes time to set up (and with how the guide in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ they seem to be min maxing)

[orchid moss]

it's pretty simple

you just do the normal clicker things and put as many points into fisheroo investing as you can

[light jay]

does 50 points per mega reset seem good?

[nocturne patrol]

and when u have nothing to do u spam shiny catch for 30 min xd

[orchid moss]

probably fine for one of the first couple?

[nocturne patrol]

and do feather guy too

all stat bonus give lot of acc

[frank shore]

how do you get ancients in sailing

[light jay]

did it for the first 5

[nocturne patrol]

u need to loot it a second time

just travel to island until u have it, nothing special to do

[frank shore]

ah

[nocturne patrol]

try to get one that give % artifact chance per sailling lvl scale is good

at wat lvl are jade plate ?

[coral perch]

What a difference

How did I keep getting green bubble

[proper solstice]

luck

[nocturne patrol]

too far...

[coral perch]

I didnt get a purp bubble when its 8.7% for 8 try

[proper solstice]

classic alchemy moment

[coral perch]

Rigged fr

[proper solstice]

no just do more tries I got like a .5% one on accident

then failed like 5 40%s in a row

[split meteor]

hey guys, im reall strugging with the cavern, i have two characters to put on it, should i do 1x motherlode and x bravery statue? kind of brand new to it

[nocturne patrol]

dont forget to brew with bubo too

[nova cloak]

Just made it to world 5 wahoo!

[orchid moss]

Welcome to div jail

[unreal vortex]

My man

Do u have DB yet?

[orchid moss]

Me?

[unreal vortex]

Ye

[orchid moss]

Ya why

[unreal vortex]

Just to know

[orchid moss]

Oh ok

[unreal vortex]

Ni lol wait

I was going to ask something lol

[orchid moss]

Ask away

[unreal vortex]

To do his quest, u have to kill 92 mobs, and insect hives from catching counts right

[orchid moss]

Ye

[unreal vortex]

But the hives are not spawning for me 😦

[coral perch]

I shouldve been doing cranium cooking??

[orchid moss]

Have you done all colos

[unreal vortex]

Not yet

[orchid moss]

The chests are all different

[unreal vortex]

Are they enought? It will be like 6 days for me to get tickets to do w6 colo

[orchid moss]

Uh I did w1-5 colo then all non colo mobs

Then bosses and I think that was enough?

[stable parrot]

Nvm that’s w5 colo

[orchid moss]

I might have done a few w6 mobs

[unreal vortex]

I dont think the bossses count

[nocturne patrol]

y u can do cranium cooking too but i mean for skill that give more chance to brew

[unreal vortex]

But if its enough, nice

[orchid moss]

Ef arm chiz crystal and Amarok runes count

[unreal vortex]

W6 is 30 😭

[orchid moss]

But yea the actual boss kill is 1 for all of them

[stable parrot]

Yea that’s why I deleted lol

[unreal vortex]

Ohhh yeah indeed i forgor that

Thanks

Gotta do them bosses bye

[nova cloak]

Haha is it worth it to put chars into the div chamber right away? Or wait

[orchid moss]

Tldr: yes

[kind peak]

are coardboard boxes ever better than silkskin boxes?

[orchid moss]

Yes if u want exp and not shinies

And u don’t have the better traps

[kind peak]

oh ok i have wood rn

[orchid moss]

But kinda irrelevant if ur doing the maestro/vman exp boosting strat

[orchid moss]

Wood is not very useful imo I’d just stick to cardboard and silkskin until you get nature

Then you can just do all silkskin 1 nature

[kind peak]

alright thx

[trail ore]

is there any strat to the skull point rifts?

[trail ore]

whats that strat?

[nocturne patrol]

give me

[shut jewel]

it's been a while but i think the SB completes it afk after 10-15 mins. if you're lucky it's even faster

think the Bubo might also just get it done afk

active afk of course

[brave fable]

i mean strat is wait but i usually target dem skulls and up and hope they upgrade

[sharp sluice]

if i have lvl 15 divinity but no goat god, should i use lvl 10 style until i get goat god before switching to lvl 15 style

[brave fable]

whatever gets the most points

hard focus goat and you can stop lab once youre at lv 75 and lv 40 div. could stay longer to get omni+harriep

[kind peak]

Do you get a lot more xp from 20 min traps than 8hr traps?

[hidden dew]

whats the best class to leave "active" on auto?

[buoyant lintel]

wth is my gaming shovel doing

it' just digging huh?

[marsh plinth]

1% until 100% right

[wind leaf]

this tipes of talents stacks with each other? if i have 2 of the same class for example

[buoyant lintel]

ok my shovel finally stopped wth

[brave fable]

is it the first time youve claimed in a while

[buoyant lintel]

I just bought it

how many procs do I get per day or hour

[brave fable]

you can check breakpoints either on wiki or ie

i dont remember if its player specific or not

[buoyant lintel]

oh right

[neon wharf]

Why Kattlecrux boss so tanky. I pushed that map on my blood berserker too and I have problem killing the moles in time before they heal him

[brave fable]

one of the worst characters to kill kruk with

another has fallen to the bb trap

[neon wharf]

;-;

[buoyant lintel]

bb was only good W4 imo

[brave fable]

i would check pins but i think you need 200m dmg or so on bb for kruk

and only 30m for es/dk

[proper solstice]

I cant wait to 1 tap kruk w/ my bb

[brave fable]

erm

[proper solstice]

Base stats moment

[brave fable]

after w6 bonuses it gets pretty easy

[neon wharf]

I'll prb start swapping to my DK or ES then. My BB only does about 70M

[brave fable]

did you candy bb?

[proper solstice]

Ik itll take a bit to achieve that

but at the same time making my weakest chars do enough dmg

[buoyant lintel]

rip that candy

[proper solstice]

so that all chars can 1 tap is cool to me

[neon wharf]

Some yeah

[brave fable]

1 tap nkruk 😋

[proper solstice]

later

[brave fable]

yes

[proper solstice]

Im not using hole guide

it feels overcomplicated for where I am at rn

so Im just taking the hole slow and learning each mechanic myself instead bc its too long for me to feel like reading the guide

any hole mechanics I gotta watch out for permanently messing up my progress?

bc so far I havnt run into any at the 4th area

[brave fable]

uh nothing will lock you just doing things right will speed up things

[proper solstice]

I see

then ill live w/o those while im learning

and target them when I notice them

[brave fable]

yep gl

[proper solstice]

Like that one upgrade

that cost gold that boosted my rates by 2.6x on getting it

despite not seeming like it would be that strong

its +20% per bar filled?

something like that for fillrate 28 -> 90

[brave fable]

oh

not entirely sure which specific upgrade youre takking about but yea all engi bonuses are worth to get

[proper solstice]

I noticed that

Yea ill ss it gimme a sec

just got this achievement

Ive had more than 120 for a while now

[brave fable]

yea i have a lot of steam specific achivements i need to do for more bits

[proper solstice]

first good superb cog!

how much damage is needed here to get the first opal from it?

[proper solstice]

just realized why its soo good

once I get this ill go for the next tier of stuff(ill eave the grey at like 1k total for 3 pow 10 for now)

[brave fable]

lowk forgot that was a thing lol

theres an upgrade that the fourth villager gives that increase bfr like crazy

[proper solstice]

when is 3rd villager?

5th area?

[brave fable]

uh i think 5th?

[proper solstice]

oh I was right?

[prime wasp]

think wiki has em

[brave fable]

and 4th is at the 7th or 8th

[proper solstice]

3 days then

I hope this thing decides to give me better options tmrow

[brave fable]

i do mining effi>bfr>xp

[proper solstice]

so far its only given bucket fill rate and cooking speed then nothing good at all

[brave fable]

i see others prio bfr and others prio xp it just depends

[novel arrow]

My opals are distributed as:

11 10 10 10
And opal gain is now preety tough...
Im that Mushroom zombie map...

[proper solstice]

didnt even roll mining eff

[brave fable]

youll get there

[brave fable]

i think at a point its best to start putting all opals on one villager.. not sure when that is but its a thing

[proper solstice]

it grows

Im nearly effective capped on this till I start w5 mobs btw

[novel arrow]

Ok
But on which Villager?
I never reseted my opals

[proper solstice]

id have over 100m dmg whenever this is properly patched

nearly 16 wp just sitting there untapped and untappable into for me

[brave fable]

uh depends if you have the conjurer bonus that gives more xp per 10 opals

i personally went e18 m10 did conjurer till i got all the good upgrades and now its at explorer

[novel arrow]

I have....I never invested in it...as I recently have that ratio...

I have like 1 invested

In that bonus

[brave fable]

thats fine

but that upgrade is what makes stacking opals good

[novel arrow]

Then reset and all in ?

[brave fable]

not sure how worth it is for you atp but yea

[novel arrow]

In your opinion all in on which Villager?

[split parcel]

anyway to increase this?

[proper solstice]

dont think so

[brave fable]

uh maybe engi first or measurer first

[proper solstice]

I just put all on arctis for now anyway

only good god I got rn

[novel arrow]

Ok

[nimble holly]

any name ideas for my 9th

[proper solstice]

Hmm

RevolverTheif

[violet kite]

DivLabSlave

[nimble holly]

Hell no

[nimble holly]

any more

[proper solstice]

hmm

[brave fable]

ion know either

[proper solstice]

do you want it walter white related?

lemme see ur other char names

ill try to match the theme

[nimble holly]

alr hold on

first 6

then 7-8

[proper solstice]

what class is this next dude gonna be?

also what is this mess of fighting areas?

[nimble holly]

a bage i think

mage*

[orchid moss]

Place nature traps on every char on trapper drone with maestro/vman after you use transfusion for max trapping exp gain

[proper solstice]

Bubo or ES

[orchid moss]

2 bubo is yikes

[proper solstice]

true

[nimble holly]

Es

[proper solstice]

so thinking up names

[hasty tartan]

any tips on where to invest bits for better gaming progression?
Conceptually shovel/kitsune/squirrel/snail are all relevant but not sure whetherinvesting in something specific gives better returns

i just got my first red bit, have chems at like 3.7 min per cycle with kitsune. Not sure where to dump my bits for the most gains

[brave fable]

progression wise its mostly rng to snail 😭

also doing achivements for bits start to stack up eventually

[hasty tartan]

snail is fighting for its life to hit 10 rn. i failed a few 9-10s

[proper solstice]

Magic Maestro

this is a base idea for a name not the final goal

[hasty tartan]

nugget is only 140k and i have never seen anything close to it for weeks now

[nimble holly]

ehh

[proper solstice]

names are a fickle thing indeed

[brave fable]

i went 1-14 no problems but i reset at 14 and ive been at 14 for weeks now

[stable parrot]

[proper solstice]

oh hello there my favorite divinity god, that sucks

[torn orchid]

Is their like a guide or can anyone tell me what damage my voidwalker should be before attempting nightmare kattlekruk

[stable parrot]

wdym it sucks, thats a great run

[proper solstice]

it couldve gone further tho if u had a bit more coins

I reacted like that bc of your soulface emoji

[prime wasp]

here was mine

[proper solstice]

wait

I already have recomended damage for kruk?

on all classes?(mman is almost always skilling rn so Im not counting him, gonna have to leave him on gmush eventually)

[nimble holly]

yea

[nimble holly]

ping me if you have any more

[proper solstice]

I dont

im bouta sleep sorry Im tired

[nimble holly]

tbh i think ill go with Magic Maestro

[hasty tartan]

Mgic Mikestro

[quartz sun]

What is the 4 slot pet composition for the equinox bubble completion of wave 115 with 4 pets...can anyone recommend (from left to right)

[light relic]

i recommend searching images from hotair he normally gives good team comps

[neon vale]

Hey anyone know how to stop my game from crashing whenever i strum the F note on the harp

[proper solstice]

closer(refinery green is up n running now!)

I need to rank up blue once huh

[stray tide]

keep goin lad! W6 is within your grasp!

[proper solstice]

Im not going for w6 for a while

I barely understand w5 stuff(I entered w5 after understanding w4 fully myself)

[proper solstice]

I have the recomended damage on a bb for kruk already

I just entered w5

I 1 tapped troll

[stray tide]

slow an' steady wins the race ig

[proper solstice]

a few times over

[orchid moss]

yea the bosses are a bit powercrept rn

[proper solstice]

vault gives only like 2x dmg at this point the + base damage Ive out scaled that

wait no its closer to 5x ish bc of the the star talent

Id still be able to 1 tap troll w/o vault(barely) w/ an ES

[orchid moss]

hard to say there's a ton of weird stacking but doesnt really matter

[proper solstice]

Most of my base damage is prob weapon power rn

ive been stacking up base WP for a while now

and base damage from stamps and alchemy

[orchid moss]

does total damage% not give you more dmg at this point

[proper solstice]

Its does but base dmg is still viable atm

[stuck river]

chat is purp mushroom better than sheepie

[orchid moss]

fair enough ig

[stuck river]

for bone farming

[proper solstice]

total damage % being addative 💀

multiplicative %dmg for the win

[orchid moss]

ye just get 1 billion kills on es

[proper solstice]

LMAO

[orchid moss]

insane dmg multi

[proper solstice]

Exclipse skulls?

[stable parrot]

what are the rates for each

[proper solstice]

I cant get those yet

[orchid moss]

eclipse and talent

[stuck river]

14-15m compared to 20m

[proper solstice]

what talent Im curious

[stable parrot]

I meant the drop values, but it sounds like you just asnwered your own question

[stuck river]

aside the fact that I accidentally spawned the miniboss and died its better to me imo

value is 288 and 461

[proper solstice]

Oh yea

wait a sec I see what ur putting down now

[orchid moss]

lol

[proper solstice]

yea I got that talent

Its not super high but its decent

rn

[shut pendant]

question about Maestro Transfusion skill (+skill EXPgain -skill eff) - this always seems to lower my AFK EXP/hr, in this case mining lv50, all nodes are lower xp
When does it kick in to be useful?

[orchid moss]

really good for trapping

[nocturne patrol]

for trapping

[shut pendant]

i see, thank you!

[trail ore]

what lab level am i aiming for, and also is it worth swapping off of div point farm for exp at 15?

[orchid moss]

75 lab and 40 div is when you start doing other stuff generally

[shut pendant]

as long as you have doot/goat

[orchid moss]

imo you stay on points until you have nobi at least

there's a guide in pins you can follow

[trail ore]

yeah im working on purrmiep right now

[orchid moss]

id say safest would be change to exp after you get purr

since thats pretty much all the core gods

[lean root]

how much accuracy do i need for kattlekruk?

[orchid moss]

wait no im tripping

3750 for 100% mb

you can just check on wiki in future

[lean root]

if its 3750 then how come 50k isnt enough for the precision-power squire talent?

[trail ore]

yeah that numbers definitely off

[proper solstice]

Thats it?

I have like 50k on all chars

[lean root]

maybe its a typo? 37500 or smth?

bc like if u check the chaotic and nightmare numbers theyre way too low

[proper solstice]

37500 *1.5 = 56250

[trail ore]

massive troll also says 3750 on wiki

[lean root]

yeah this is def weird

[proper solstice]

Ill just get over 150k b4 touching him

then ill not have to worry

[trail ore]

you definitely dont need that much

[proper solstice]

and is that gonna stop me? I have the recomended damage in the pins for bb

and I just entered w5

I 1 tapped troll and I wanna 1 tap kruk

[trail ore]

kay

[lean root]

59.3k isnt enough for precision-power

[trail ore]

gl getting to 100b damage

[nocturne patrol]

poggers now need to get 1minute grow time xd

[trail ore]

are you using accuracy prayer?

[nocturne patrol]

i just get the strat for log, i'm happy

[proper solstice]

active damage is easier than that on an ES due to ~100x dmg w/ yellow lightning

I only need to 200x my damage to 1 tap w/ acrit

probably less tbh

[lean root]

nope

[proper solstice]

I can reach atleast 4x w/ wp alone

[orchid moss]

yea i have no idea i had like 1 million acc when i did kruk so not a good point of reference

[lean root]

i got over 60k acc and nothing

[orchid moss]

the card is also extremely unhelpful

(real)

[trail ore]

turn it on

[lean root]

i dont have it

[trail ore]

...

get it

[lean root]

im bad at worship :/

also still trying to level up my maestro for lvl 25

[orchid moss]

use the guide sheet 🙂

[proper solstice]

im only mid at worship rn lvl 45 ish worship on maestro

[uneven tiger]

is it worth to swtich to vitalic divinity style on everybody for the double exp case ?

[orchid moss]

if u have purrmiep sure

[uneven tiger]

na but I have doot

[lean root]

in any case i finally killed kattlekruk

[orchid moss]

oh yea ofc then

[trail ore]

does the guide sheet have good options for low level

[orchid moss]

yes

[lean root]

only like 50m damage so i just tried to outdamage his healing

[orchid moss]

but you can also just use the wave 80 setup with lower level towers and it will probably get you to like 50-60

50m damage is like way more than enough to do kruk on any class besides vman

finally chowing w5

eating all my 1 hr candy

[proper solstice]

Im at 80mil and 40m on my weaker chars(just didnt add max skill levels for combat specifically via checkouts yet)

[orchid moss]

[nocturne patrol]

There is a limit on cog u claim like for spices ?

[orchid moss]

no

[nocturne patrol]

Nice

[hidden dew]

whats the best class to push maps on w5?

i feel like my bb is falling off and not sure if i just need to get more upgrades or if its just a bb thing

[zinc torrent]

I used DK.

Plus, W5 has several maps with resources that are best obtained via DK

[zinc torrent]

As a heads up, it's worth doing some more pushing with BB, because when you get to W6 and go for Deathbringer, you'll need to kill 92 unique monsters to complete the associated quest.

Won't be easy if BB barely has any W5 maps unlocked, and W5 Colosseum is too expensive

[orchid moss]

active dk or afk es

[hidden dew]

i see, ty

[orchid moss]

are generally what people use

[fierce stream]

I'm at cavern 7 (lamp) and have 40 opals now, how should i be investing them? I have 4/5 points invested in the 10 opals conjuror bonus. My opals are currently 10/10/10/10, should I dump them all onto my explorer to push to cavern 10 and then redistribute? Or should I keep the spread? Something in between?

[bleak gazelle]

when you have enough efficiency to stay at 95-100%. in the meantime, just don't level the talent as much

[trail ore]

probably faster to get some levels in W6 for BB and then push backwards - you get a good amount of power just for being in w6

[hidden dew]

im lacking accuracy, tho defense is completely fine on my characters so i might just be missing something ive been starting to think

[orchid moss]

check the guide

[shut pendant]

will do, thank you!

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, I pushed BB to Masterius before then going back and unlocking a couple more W5 maps

[fierce stream]

fair enough

[bleak gazelle]

you need 81k for the moles inside the fight

[zinc torrent]

Have you started using W5 armor stones to add WIS to armor yet?

[proper solstice]

tinkered w/ this it went up from 1% to 2.2%!

[orchid moss]

goat

[proper solstice]

90m damage hit

w/o crits

how do people even reach 100% crit chance im at 25% ish passive

[zinc torrent]

Onyx Beholder Statue does it by itself

[bleak gazelle]

onyx

[proper solstice]

I see

I cant farm statues yet

but when I can I assume its a huge buff

crits become usable

[orchid moss]

my beholder isnt that high lvl and it gives 200% crit by itself

[hidden dew]

ive used the stones yea, still on W3 gear tho

[proper solstice]

onyx or not?

[solar drift]

we both know you aint having that much after next patch

[orchid moss]

yea onyxed

[proper solstice]

I see

[orchid moss]

once you can statue farm beholder is one of the easiest ones

you get it all the time

[proper solstice]

this is my statues for accuracy and crit chance

no statue farming

just naturally obtained from playing

[orchid moss]

i wish i could get 2 max books a day

[zinc torrent]

You'll get more WIS for DK via Amarok armor; it's cheap to craft and has more upgrade slots than all the important armor until Chizoar Helm/Shoes

Even Woodular Circles should be getting easier for you now; I added Amarok Helm when pushing W5.

Now, if by W3 Armor, you meant that your are in fact using Chizoar Armor, then work on other gear that has a lot of upgrade slots

[orchid moss]

instead of 1

[proper solstice]

onyx statue grind requires a high crystal chance right/

and the cookie

[orchid moss]

yea i would say dont start until at min like 1 in 100 and choc chip

[proper solstice]

w/ my mman I can go below 100 in odds

[hidden dew]

how do you get WIS on DK armor? when i upgrade my gear it pretty much goes straight strength

[proper solstice]

but choc chip I got none

[orchid moss]

mman is so piss for farming statues ngl

i tried it when i was initially trying to start crystal farming and immediately gave up

class just has no aoe

rather wait til dk is online

[solar drift]

you upgrade it on a mage ?

then move the item to warrior ?

[hidden dew]

ooh, i aint think of that lol

ty

[solar drift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584832556998983680/1045091026269896798/1033731986193403954.gif

[hidden dew]

im returning from over a year break so i gotta relearn like everything lol

[proper solstice]

yall guys move gear around for stat increases from armor stones?

[zinc torrent]

The Mages apply the stones to get WIS

[proper solstice]

I get so little from it compared to my alch and other sources I just didnt bother

[orchid moss]

not anymore

acc and def basically not a problem for me now ngl

just need dmg

[zinc torrent]

Earlier on, yes. Eventually, accuracy is no longer a struggle

[solar drift]

😩

[orchid moss]

wowie

[hidden dew]

tryna be like u fr

[proper solstice]

accuracy is already not a struggle for me

[orchid moss]

yea but ur diff from most players ngl

[proper solstice]

I dont rush headfirst into w6

[orchid moss]

you actually do horizontal progression instead of just rushing worlds

😹

[proper solstice]

and then get confused

[zinc torrent]

Yep, caught that in your previous comment; it's about dmg now

[orchid moss]

hitting mk in w6 so hard 😭

[proper solstice]

I dont have dmg problems really either I only want dmg for deathnote

[marsh plinth]

buy 50% or roll for 100

[zinc torrent]

Always use for more multikill

[proper solstice]

yeap

[orchid moss]

if your gains are low would recommend save for 100 but i love gambling

[coral perch]

50% if u feeling it

[proper solstice]

I have 45% or so in w1 per tier!

[solar drift]

never 50%

-# but the other me say do it

[coral perch]

[hidden dew]

does multikill from deathnote work while active aswell or only afk?

[proper solstice]

Im defo not doing random quests I skipped for slab and quest special talents or anything on my mman(quester)

[coral perch]

Both

[orchid moss]

you'll get there

[coral perch]

One day

[coral perch]

Wot is mman now

[zinc torrent]

Both.

Also, Mana is Life works AFK; ES is a great AFK deathnote farmer where multikill is established

[coral perch]

Maestro?

[proper solstice]

lvl 168 hes waiting on my bb to slay 1m of w1-3 mobs and yes maestro

[coral perch]

Im starting to see a pattern here

Jman Mman and Vman

[proper solstice]

yea

[coral perch]

Oh yeah, the only elite class rn is db yea?

[orchid moss]

ye

surely new one update after caverns

[zinc torrent]

I've found it fascinating how many of the most useful bubbles in a cauldron are within the first 10

[coral perch]

SB next

[orchid moss]

a lot of the last ones are good too

[coral perch]

Prolly gonna be dk tho

[zinc torrent]

That will be Mayheim

[orchid moss]

its the middle ones that have a bunch of stinkers

[proper solstice]

yea the first bubbles are mostly linear too

only bubble thats given me exponential results so far is diamond chef

[zinc torrent]

💞 Power Trione/Tritwo/Trithree 💞

[coral perch]

Oh right, should I use all my mats on alch?

I usually stop after it kinda make a dent to upgrade

[proper solstice]

w3?

[coral perch]

Said dent is 30k/400k mats

[proper solstice]

or w5 ones?

I noticed w3 and w4 had a 50/50 rate for stinkers

[orchid moss]

w3 w4 yea

[proper solstice]

some really good ones

some really why tf is this an option

[orchid moss]

w5 ones are solid just a lot of them are expensive

cuz its like sailing loot

[proper solstice]

w4 ones = money ones and like 4 others

so 7/20

thats a failing grade

[orchid moss]

wait w4 bubbles lowkey good

[proper solstice]

w4 bubble 3 for the normal class cauldrons

[orchid moss]

stinkers are like atk speed

[proper solstice]

are meh

it gives such little afk gains I might as well play roo for a week for more than it gives

[orchid moss]

nah those are goated for samples

[proper solstice]

Its soo little when I can get the same if not more from roo atm

[orchid moss]

ok but roo starts taking like

[proper solstice]

yea they look good for later but rn they are stinkers

[orchid moss]

forever

[proper solstice]

Im at 7 my goal is like 10 b4 stopping

im already further in roo than most

[orchid moss]

yea im a big roo neglector

[proper solstice]

I treat it like a daily same w/ orion and now hole

[orchid moss]

yea they just annoying cuz one is souls and another is anvil item

but the effect is pretty good

[proper solstice]

my dailys list is
w1: orion
w2: roo, the islands to the left in fishing area, alchemy, post office, buying the funny pickle
w3: cogs, refinery, buildings in construction
w4: breeding and cooking
w5: hole, sailing, gaming

ofc the claims in the ez access menu

and balls

[zinc torrent]

In reviewing my Alchemy thus far:

I have 70 bubbles unlocked across all 4 cauldrons.

Half of them are still at level 1; the majority of which I plan to keep that way

[proper solstice]

💀

not even 20% bonus?

[orchid moss]

you can definitely leave some at lvl 1

for a while

and the anvil point one you can leave at lvl 1 forever

[proper solstice]

yeap

that one needs a replacement

[coral perch]

I can craft Chiz helmet now

[proper solstice]

its so BAD

[solar drift]

i am saying this now but you guys have to level it at some point and is most likely with candy

atleast to 1500

[proper solstice]

why?]

total bubble level?

[solar drift]

nblb (no bubble left behind)

[proper solstice]

but if its lvl 1

[orchid moss]

cuz of atom collider

[proper solstice]

it isnt affected by nblb

[solar drift]

i guess also true

[orchid moss]

it might hit?

[solar drift]

let me check

[proper solstice]

it needs lvl 2+ now

dont know why it changed, used to be 5+

it still says that in lab

[solar drift]

so wiki say is lv5+

[coral perch]

Nblb is 2+ now??

[solar drift]

guess if you have it on 1 you are lucky

[proper solstice]

Its lvl 2+ some random bubble I had it on 2

and it got bumpted to 4 😦

[trail ore]

Alch is so slow

[coral perch]

Awh hell no

[solar drift]

we talking about nblb trigger

[red orbit]

how long did it take for you guys to get to goharut?

[proper solstice]

yes

[coral perch]

Yeah, ik

[proper solstice]

it triggered on multiple random lvl 2 bubbles

of mine 😦

[coral perch]

I have like.. a lot of shitty bubble at lvl 4

[proper solstice]

thankfully it was just ones I was putting off lvling

[trail ore]

Like 4 days with one pusher

[proper solstice]

yea I dont know why mine is proccing at lvl 2 instead

[solar drift]

ah is lv 2

[proper solstice]

I left the really bad ones at lvl 1 tho so im good

just annoying

[orchid moss]

i think it was changed to lvl 2 but text wasnt updated iirc

[coral perch]

Read the bolded text fgs

[solar drift]

ye

[proper solstice]

oh just lvl it to 1500 to make it ignore it goti t

[solar drift]

i will have to get it to lv9900 at some point 😩

[proper solstice]

doing that for cheaper bubbles w/ atoms doesnt sound too bad

[bleak gazelle]

this got changed when Sacred Methods pack released, but he never updated the lab node text
and if you read the bolded text below it...

[solar drift]

atleast wiki updated it

ye i read the bottom row after

I CLICKED HARVEST ALL AGAIN

[zinc torrent]

Of the ones I have unlocked, GriffyBit ranked Anvilnomics and Lil Big Damage as F tier, which I agree with.

I also consider the following to be F tier:

• Reely Smart/Noodubble
• Prowessessary
• Big Meaty Claws
• Bappity Boopity/Cheap Shot
• Brittley Spears/Bow Jack/Matty Stafford
• Orange/Green/Purple/Yellow Bargain
• Undeveloped Costs
• Brewstachio
• All for Kill
• Cuz I Catch Em All
• Cogs For Hands
• Dollar of Agility

[solar drift]

[marsh plinth]

anybody use the all exp bonus but 10hr time limit

[trail ore]

How would you recommend doing div stances with door? Points till tiger and then going to the l25 stance?

[trail ore]

Seems bad

[marsh plinth]

really? I'm a pretty active player but I'm thinking about taking it off my characters

[rocky ginkgo]

For the love of yourself don’t listen to griffy

[solar drift]

just ask endgamer, they like to answer question

https://tenor.com/view/jashinchan-dropkick-evil-smile-smug-evilness-anime-gif-13119047

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, there's a lot of criticism of him, but there are some things he got right.

Anvilnomics and Lil Big Damage really are useless

[proper solstice]

I got lil big damage on accident
cogs one is decent same w/ cuz I catch em all the dallar bubbles
undeveloped costs/bargain affect liquid costs

[bleak gazelle]

idk, been trying to gauge how fast people are pushing, since hole and w6 give boosts to sailing/gaming, so wondering if just getting levels is more important than rushing purrmep. also depends on how much rng you get with god unlocks

might just be worth it to stick on vitalic to 40/50 if you get good rng

[orchid moss]

some of those are a little crazy

the damage ones and meaty claws in f is crazy

[proper solstice]

prowessarry is literally how I get good samples increases yea it caps out but its still nice

[rocky ginkgo]

Anvilnomics yeah but lil big dmg not the worst

[trail ore]

Yeah I'm mostly trying to figure out how long lab jail is going to last

[proper solstice]

When I watched griffys guides its mostly to get a feel on a mechanci

[trail ore]

I also have to figure out catching my gathering skills up

[proper solstice]

his words are usually ~60% right

[trail ore]

Starting to get gated by higher level trees and bugs

[rocky ginkgo]

More like 40-50

Early on it’s fine, later nah

[proper solstice]

just enough to get the feel for a mechanic than anything else

[solar drift]

side note, did you beat w5 boss yet ace

[zinc torrent]

Giriffy did also say that at least Mastery helps out later game.

It does have niche use for things like the Shimmer Island Dummy.

But in the grand scheme of things, mastery does kind of suck

[bleak gazelle]

could always swap people in and out between lab, monuments, and elsewhere. maybe just keep one ES pushing Div to unlock multitool

[rocky ginkgo]

Big number make big happy

[bleak gazelle]

wonder if that's the best play now

[rocky ginkgo]

No other explanation needed

[trail ore]

How strong are monuments, I feel like the grind is going to make me hate it

[bleak gazelle]

@solar drift i just read your account name, smh. was wondering who the hell you were
now, BB is probably lacking a bunch of damage still, but also like 500k kills on fire spirits

[solar drift]

[bleak gazelle]

have you looked at any of the bonuses?

Bravery - 2k is a good initial stopping point

[solar drift]

i cant believe you cant recognize is me, i even have a canon name now

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sousou-no-frieren-mimic-stuck-monster-gif-9774470907620230777

[trail ore]

Brain little, I read to "afk for 2000 hours" and I cry

[bleak gazelle]

Justice - could go straight to 24k

[solar drift]

0 artifact find chance

[bleak gazelle]

well, you get some fancy monument afk from endless summoning and later justice waves

[orchid moss]

frieren is peak

[bleak gazelle]

literally thought you were talking about w2 mimics

[trail ore]

I feel like I'm doing summoning wrong

[rocky ginkgo]

Ngl I just did till goat first since with doot lab and div connected, then at like lvl 30 I switched to tranq and did until lvl 60

[solar drift]

it is the w2 mimic

[bleak gazelle]

i haven't watched it. was planning to then heard they were coming out with a second season. so waiting it is

switching to tranq at 30

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[orchid moss]

[bleak gazelle]

Here's alt progress if you want to see though
https://altcow.idleonefficiency.com/

[rocky ginkgo]

After 60, grind till 80

[solar drift]

smh these nitro enjoyer

[orchid moss]

[bleak gazelle]

i had everyone in bravery for a bit to push to 300, left two there to finish that up

then back to div for goat probably

[rocky ginkgo]

We have to watch upon them as they sit on their pedestal

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebobwindow-seum-gif-21948527

[bleak gazelle]

i need to see what level i end up on once i get it

[trail ore]

Probably canceling my nitro after this year but I'll miss it

[orchid moss]

i think i will cancel my nitro sub if they increase the price

[bleak gazelle]

i've been thinking about getting full nitro for the extended post limit for the masterlist

but honestly i don't really care about anything else it offers

so annoyed they locked text limit to regular nitro

[rocky ginkgo]

Ngl discord should offer like half nitro, you can choose what features you want and pay less

[zinc torrent]

On my original account, I did have levels in all of the bubbles.

This time around, I'm working with a question:

How many Alchemy bubbles can be left at level 1 with no significant hindrance to progression in the long term?

I'm thinking long term. Going off your example, I know that it's possible to reach the Prowess cap without ever leveling Prowessessary.
Yes, a hindrance for a good while; makes zero difference in the long term

[trail ore]

24k is 10 full days afk right?

[orchid moss]

hd streaming

[trail ore]

On 10 characters

[bleak gazelle]

missing a zero

[rocky ginkgo]

Meth

[solar drift]

math is not mathing

10x10 = 100
100 x24 = 2400

[trail ore]

Fuck that

[proper solstice]

honestly nblb is kinda meh to me anyways id rather get that total bubble level money %

[trail ore]

Also it's late I'm eepy

[rocky ginkgo]

Nblb is imo a bit worse then stamp lvls but still really damn good

[proper solstice]

I just level alot more than nblb levels up stuff rn

per day

[zinc torrent]

That is another consideration I'm juggling; wasn't yet added when I abandoned my original main

[bleak gazelle]

https://altcow.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy
This is what my alt is at and BB is currently at ~50m damage, so ES/DK should be fine to push through W5
Caveat: I have one p2w neck from fomo shop and one of the damage nametags from winter event

[proper solstice]

the fact nblb caps at 1500 makes it less good

[solar drift]

would you still recommend people to get lv75 lab after they get lvl40/50 divinity ace ?

[trail ore]

100 days not playing sounds like I quit the game, why would you design that

[rocky ginkgo]

True, but I use it to upgrade bubbles I don’t want to but have use, I just focus on stuff like cranium bubble and grind time

[proper solstice]

fair

I focus it all as I go, need mining eff: alchemy need fishing bonuses: alchemy

[trail ore]

75 lab gives you the connections for all nodes right?

[rocky ginkgo]

Since so many bubbles reaching that 1500 cap is much harder

[zinc torrent]

True. However, IIRC, the NBLB cap used to be 1,200.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the cap getting another raise

[solar drift]

correct, but unless you are a whale you will never be full equipped for atleast 1year+

[proper solstice]

true but I just level as needed atm

[solar drift]

and you still have to buy chips from gemshop sometime

[rocky ginkgo]

You gotta gamble at one point or another

[solar drift]

ye else you need to wait for the rotation...which you can also buy 2 chip max per week

[rocky ginkgo]

For some reason the 4 times I gambled in total, 3 were wood chips

I felt scammed

[rocky ginkgo]

7 chip but 2 gem

[trail ore]

I'm hoping I can buy this week's gem

[proper solstice]

I guess ill just keep leveling as needed and nblb level the weaker ones I dont level bubbles I dont see a bonus I can get from em

[solar drift]

now tell me from those 7, how many are actualy useable xd

[proper solstice]

also why is prowessry capped only at 2x ish?

[rocky ginkgo]

Like a 1/3

[solar drift]

correct, but you want to level the one that you can easy print/ can print at all

[proper solstice]

what I mostly have done(except for diamond chef I love that one)

[rocky ginkgo]

Choc, top left, bottom right, double trophy, double keychain (up, then another in down) and I think poker chip is good

[proper solstice]

Ive gotten nearly an entire page of lvl 11 meals(literally all the meals ive unlocked)

[solar drift]

MODS

[rocky ginkgo]

I just forgot what poker chip was since I forgo

[solar drift]

hes cheating

[rocky ginkgo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269444322357547092/1315773495300587550/togif-1.gif

Shit I guess it worked

[trail ore]

I really wish swapping gear between characters was smoother 😦

[rocky ginkgo]

nvm but I agree

Transferring between actives chars is gets on my nerves at times

[trail ore]

Just in general there's a lot of stuff I wish I could just do

[solar drift]

if you mean in idleon, as you progress in w6

there will be to much stuff you can do

[trail ore]

Like needing a web tool to see my refinery without going to w3 town is just annoying

[solar drift]

ah you mean qol

[trail ore]

Yeah

There's a good amount but what's missing is completely arbitrary

[solar drift]

is getting better atleast

[marsh plinth]

why's divinity sparkie not in gemshop tier list

actuallly why's all the stuff in w5 gemshop not in the tier list

[bleak gazelle]

which one are you looking at

if the discord command one, probably because it was made before w5 came out

both !guide and !review have tierlists in them

[marsh plinth]

I see

ty

[bleak gazelle]

but probably because they aren't really necessary until you're past w5 now with how fast things are. usually by the time you have damage to kill boss you can get 2nd or 3rd god from afk without them

and then i'd put w6/hole purchases above them

[marsh plinth]

max out divinity sparkie I assume?

I got the gems and I just started w5 so idk if it's worth

but it'd be a good snowball I assume

[solar drift]

you are better off saving it for w6 gems shop item

[humble cloak]

will the dragon statues i currently have in my inventory/chest also be converted to villager statues or only the ones ive deposited

[solar drift]

everything

[humble cloak]

😔

thank you

[rocky ginkgo]

Nah, maybe get 1 but save them for more important upgrades

[bleak gazelle]

hmm, thought i had smacked miniboss before, but guess my damage was too low. maybe i should go do that now for some keys // Alt W5 Damage

[marsh plinth]

I got 2

[glad isle]

max it

free xp

[rocky ginkgo]

useless later ngl

[marsh plinth]

my wormhole just didn't spawn

[neat siren]

you should adjust your... bar

you can move wormhole down cus it's the longest cooldown

[solar drift]

try cloud save

[marsh plinth]

any free robes you can get later into the game? or are my characters gonna be permanently naked

[solar drift]

nude 4ever

[glad isle]

nakey nakey

[marsh plinth]

I guess I must put this $21 to good use then

[oblique basin]

I had this one afk for 20days in the Justice monument and when I opened him up today he was outside and got nothing. 20days wasted for nothing

[lethal stump]

what is the best 20 dollar pack

this?

[modest garden]

i dont understand?

i can't increase more storage

[near cosmos]

Seems like u need to get shematic to increase it fisrt

Dont remember how it all started

[near cosmos]

Yeah there it is

[neat siren]

that's not the best one but it's very good

ancient echoes and island explorer are good contenders and sacred methods used to hold that spot for best 20$ bundle but now we have a lot of free alc+meal+stamp levels so it's not the best anymore but it's still very good

[lethal stump]

well this offer looks alot better than ancient echoes

[cloud flame]

thats because it is

sacred methods is the best one tho

[lethal stump]

already have that so

[sick heath]

good news, i haven’t gotten any dragon statues or even gotten to gloomies, so i won’t feel this punch as hard maybe?

idk

[lethal stump]

what do i upgrade

[lofty field]

get 1 strings?

[bitter echo]

Both the villager xp ones are important, the first 2 blue squares

heres how mine looks

Theres a little sheet of suggested upgrade paths in the guides section #1303761365273415700 message

[lethal stump]

ok ty

[vernal relic]

go with lamp first then max the one mark with circle

[light relic]

#1303761365273415700 pretty sure conjurer still relevant

[vernal relic]

i disagree with strings having better value than lamp early

[light relic]

do you have justice monument?

[lethal stump]

nah

i just unlocked lamp

[light relic]

@vernal relic

oh I see

should probably go for XP first

[vernal relic]

whats this?

[light relic]

Doesn't have justice monument and 90% chance to gain 1 additional wish is meh compared to Strings.

[vernal relic]

yea thats why i said to get lamp first

[light relic]

and the reason why I am counter arguing that

[vernal relic]

the only thing i can see strings beneficial is if u have all things that boost it like the gem shop one

youll eventually get stuck faster if you dont have those bought

but yea upgrading the monument and measurement one is bad if you dont have much of it yet

[vernal loom]

How to unlock the first statue?

[simple wadi]

Level up explorer.

[vernal loom]

Ok

How many levels do i need ?

[simple wadi]

Check the pinned messages for a guide on hole.

[vernal loom]

Ok thanks 👍

[bitter echo]

wait would you not suggest he do the other xp one first, the one that gives xp based on completed schematics i think, next to the 10 opal one

[calm field]

idk if i am crazy but i remember unlocking upgrade with something like "increase chance of big gold nugget until you get better" but i CANT find it anywhere

[novel mural]

equinox

[calm field]

THANK YOU

[vernal relic]

mb i forgot about that one, but youll eventually need to change it if you dont have enough conjurer points since it will have less value in the long run

[bitter echo]

trying to do one of the damn w6 pet battles but my rattler keeps getting taken out regardless of how well i time my first block

[vernal relic]

try replacing it with 1 refiller.

so u can sacrifice it

if you ever cant block the first attack

[bitter echo]

i can block the first, its just that for some reason after a little time the rattler tends to still get killed off, within like another minute or so

[vernal relic]

maybe try it in this order

[novel mural]

I'd rather lose rattler than a refiller tho

looter does most of the damage anyway

[light relic]

interesting

[novel mural]

you could definitely try defender in 2nd spot instead of 4th

a bit easier shield timing

[vernal relic]

or just use this good boi

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-petting-dogs-gif-22137938

[bitter echo]

yeah i asked earlier if i should still be using this comp cause im guessing the setup was before peapod existed and someone said yes so i kept rattler over peapod

ive finally got the good timing and now i need to decide if i want to turn off mono at 5% for the barley lost achievement and have to suffer this fight again or not

[vernal relic]

you can replace monolith with peapod

or replace 1 refiller wiht peapod

[bitter echo]

wait isnt monos time freeze whats keeping you alive

given it allows your abilities to regen more during it

[vernal relic]

defender is what keeps u alive

but with peapod u can spam skills

[bitter echo]

ah i guess its a synergy with peapods 10 attacka and refiller

[cloud flame]

youe shields too far in the back lol

[calm field]

imennse amount of lag

[cloud flame]

i use this and it works pretty well

[bitter echo]

yeah i was following the googledoc and thought the placement was kinda weird

either way i won, all maps unlocked, and i didnt get barley lost cause i wasnt paying attention so ill have to try and get it through arena XD

[vernal relic]

i dont think that is the last map

[bitter echo]

oh, whats the requirement for more then as i cant scroll down to any more battles

[vernal relic]

i forgot but lemme check essence emporium

[bitter echo]

ahh i see youve gotta reach the respective w6 map

[cloud flame]

W6

[cloud flame]

after every locked portal you unlock a spice

i just got past the last lock yesterday so finally doing the last spice lol

[bitter echo]

im too weak for the territories ive unlocked anyways lul