#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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i recommend w2 map 1 because of dice obol + you can get the gold luk obol ( and glas shard)
What class should the last 2 characters be I already have 2 divine knights
short term: ES and SB. Long term leave them as beginners and level their skills/lab/div jail
what about the midterm
how come frozone doesnt cast when it shud be?
so much fun
1 in 80 and 8 DR is pretty bad for statue farming, I'd probably try to get below 1 in 60 and at least 10 DR, possibly 12
weapons, probably will need a few more bags as well
DR obols? then that's a good idea
you done with pops?
ic, but pops are easier than dices so you're just gonna prolong your pain
both family and personal btw, right?
done 
you got a point about filling empty spots yeah, good luck on your farm mate

I think i stole someon luck getting purr with 1%,my bad guys 
Question about this, since elite class swap tokens exist, is it not likely that the current meta and semi-future proofing are roughly the same thing? I don't know what the precedent is with Lava handing these out on major meta changes.
I think I've hit a brick wall in gaming. I've got all the major upgrades that don't cost Green Bits, but now I'm really slowing down. All I can do is get occasional small fertiliser upgrades, and I need 8 green bits for the next import but that takes forever to get just one. Anything I can do to speed up getting 8 green bits?
Lemme check which one that is
If it's not on a far away island that'd be good
You have cat turned off ?
He buff spd but lowers income
I have him on
Turn him off you can get more bits that way
The income debuff is smaller than the speed buff, it's overall better if I check on it enough
I just got the snow island
I do have a lot of speed upgrades, so I could go straight for that island and just pray for the bits artifact
i assume when crystal farming i want to filter everything
depends on your capacity
I have Omniphau, so if I get lucky it'll be easier than expected
and your droprate + how long
If you check around each hour then is fine
How do you get chemical plants? I unlocked them a week ago but never saw even one. Are they just rare?
very rare
I think that's gonna be a 500% boost as soon as I get it, that's sick
Alright, thanks guys 🙂
now get 15 of them
ey how much is recomendeed damage to kill kruk easyly
for dk
40m
the maximum 40 m? or minimum
always go with max
and if you actually mean easily like afk through it then probably 60m +
dawg my dk max is 49m and still stuck at kruk
ye you need to do it manually
these mole rough asf
yeah i did it manual... but i think its my skill issue
do you have your attack talents booked?
nope, mostly lvl 107
maybe thats why
kk, imma try book it : D
So turns out my guys take several days to get to Cloud 7, and it has 2 million req.
I'm not doing that yet.
Anything else I can do?
whats this symbol chat
but when i focus on right mole the left mole heal
just reached here
you saw that symbol before
12m to unlock porta; 💀
i didn't
rookie numbers
imma try change weapon to scythe first
then you didnt look, because thats just mean you need 5 char to unlock the portal to unlock it
just need 4 more red penguin
I'll do that now, but other than that I got no clue
they get bigger after this
you had to do it before already on spirit
tf
i didn't remember seeing
w6 sound a little frustating
now you know
I think the bits vial is my best bet, it's not too hard to get those souls
awesome i have 1/200 crystal chance
Me hard stuck on bunnys vial no unlocking
The grind never stops
The vial rng being trash on me is expected
I do that but still bad luck
Me getting most on 6
you dont really want to get picky
just level all of them
and I still have a lot of vials left to max
Welcome to w6
anyone have the bravery guide?
it's in the hole guide in #1084911530417606656
Quick question, so if I set all my characters to the Mantra style ( 1xp per hour to all characters), and I equip that on all my characters ( x7 ) will all of my characters receive 7xp per hour?
Seems silly to ask, but I’ve been wrong before
Is there actually a good time to have the kitsume roxie buff in gaming active
Does Nobisect link bonus (2x more kills for portals and deathnote) also contribute to DK orb kill count?
Ayy, cant get the 180 kills on orb in Rift 8? Better to manually place the statue and max out the orb duration (with books?)
speed pots, booked orb, booked squire
booked squire
What does this part mean?
How often would you need to check it to make it worthwhile? I'm kinda far in gaming (I think) and just never thought to use it.
In the low trillions of red currency
It really is. Do something for 10 minutes then afk for 4 days
Early on the speed buf help but later is better turned off
At the point I am, I'd pretty much need to be staring at it constantly to make it useful at all
I got each plant around 30 mins
I'm at 10.5 min with cat on
I'm 13min without cat
These gaming procs of all chars help a lot ngl
Really close 
I'm 5sec gaming with kitsune, wouldnt turn it off for anything
Muta seems to contradict other people'
you'll get enough bit multipliers eventually
Bro got it all time active
On some things rng is rng
how do people get the bonus from elephant god double?
if you mean double sailing procs g hampter gives it
ty
if i put shrine on W5 and my other chars are afking on divine altar will it count as a progress to the shrine?
W5 town, yes
always. the speed it gives only gets better with upgrades and more speed = more plants for more mutation rolls and more evo levels which all vastly outweigh the 3x deficit
it's a 3x additive (subtractive?) difference, so it's basically nothing, even at the start
it outweights the 3x deficit super quickly with upgrades and just becomes a strict buff
That should work
oh it does
phew, got it
I was trying to get this, so I manipulated the trades... 15 bottles of wind rip
happy that i even got it, had to even do math 😭
I knew I needed 3.54M to get 777M but glad its accepted lol
oh, its low, 0.09%
not great not bad
that % is on candied island
What is the scarf and ring in w5?
scarf is upgraded chiz blanket, rings are from dungeon, but should be replaced by w1 shop pugilist rings
Chirozars upgraded blankie and tenacity ring
we'll get around to updating it again...soon ™️
I don't even watch these guides. I upgrade when I feel like it and it works... ish
The speed pots can be changed for dmg pots, they got buffed so a lil' fix
that's from an image here 
just keep one for mov %
Eh, I don't really watch sailing, I got that golden hampter bonus and just do them when I claim afk hours for each
How do I get a ton of w3 keys?
w3 miniboss with dk + high orb stack
Tip if you do go dk and you got those lovey dovey letters left from event, you can use them to get stacks on dk's orb
I got 1k, so in theory, I can get 10x dr
Oh okay. Fair enough. Thanks 🙂
If I'm getting growth cycles every 2 min, how often would you recommend checking on it?
do you have chems yet?
actually, with 2 minute cycles you're probably close to 5s gaming if you've been working on your farming 
regardless, if no chems > check+roll as often as possible
if chems but not done with superbits > also probably check as often as possible (alternatively, use this calculator to see how long you need to wait for a t3-5 and check that often https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0 )
if done with everything > to your hearts content
I have chems. Farming is pretty good. Growing crystal plots every 10sec
Not sure what you mean about 5sec gaming because of farming though
the crop scientist bonus that gives evo chance is just rolled in with speed, they're essentially the same thing. Around 160 crops found and ~250 fert/squirrel/kitsune levels you can hit instant gaming and 5s before that
5s gaming is when all your crops respawn in ~5s intervals, regardless of what your fert speed says (crop sci bonus doesn't update it) and happens outside of W5 town, video here
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
After that is Instant Gaming inside of W5 town, video here
#idleon-gen-chat message
3 hours ok for discovering island 11? have my first boat going to 11 and second going to 10, kinda just had 2 boats on each island for resources till now and trying to catchup with sailing
seems fine to me 
the only reason i want to catch up on sailing is cause i dont like clicking chest and seeing nothing over and over
I'm at 156 crops. 35.6x gaming evo
But still at 2min cycles with cat
whats better, boat speed or cloud discovery rate for new islands?
Oh I just re-read your comment. It won't update in gaming interface. Gotcha
But yeah, my gaming doesn't look like that (The vid you linked)
first guy is one of my later captains thats in another boat, second guy i think is one of first captains? base stats on him come to 10% speed and 14% loot
speed, but you only need it on first boat
cloud discover might help you unlock the island faster but it wont matters when you take 3x amount of time for 1 trip
well, speed still helps after the island is discovered, sooo 
yeah for sure
need help, how do i free my 2nd character?
farm kunai on 3rd floor
maybe farm a smoke bomb on second floor, too 
bro is gonna die fast with that x)
90% stealth on 3rd floor 
i regret starting catching bubble ace
what, candying it or?
ye
candying any bubble seems awful
ore was chill since i only need to click it 1 time without any dragging
catching and chopping the funny bug is still not fixed
so if i dont drag my mouse it can just disappear + per hour is kinda bad lul
i'm already used to it from gmush 
and have you pushed m3 further ?
just moved back up to m4 for green gems, sitting at 38%
i have f5 unlocked, but hoping for some better chucks
at f4 rightnow farming chucks, thinking of pushing to f6 and see whats my detection rate is
if is bad i might just afk at f5 until i get 40k in fractal or he buff sneaking
That MK is so hot
i was so confused for a sec there 
mk ?
prowess
now i am confused
dw about it
actually i wonder if it's technically just efficiency tiers and prowess is a multiplier 
lava probably doesn't even know
so its prowess or not?
it's a mystery
fr fr
Should I just active with a ES for the Fist Recipe?
are you w5?
do you NEED that recipe?
get more dr and multkill and just use a 72h candy 
I'm like late W6 
lmao yeah welp all char afk on in and active ES I guess 
same
.
i need donation of seawater uwu
does this work with doot or no?
as in does it just give me the bonus or do i have to link to one
Doot works but you need to get 1 on purr to benefit the minor one
whats wrong with ppl voting for class xp?
do they not want to progress their alchemy?
They want more xp but we got enough already 
Lots of new players wanting levels
its not like they have the vault now
I never said it was logical, just what I assume
I've been in world 5 for like a year and I only just noticed the first gaming import does not, in fact, cost 1.5 Q bits. So having just bought the shovel and squirrel I've just quintupled my gaming bits in 3 minutes. AMA
...and I just unlocked superbits giving me another instant 50x multiplier lmao
😭

if anyone needs some pro tips on optimized, efficient gameplay, hit me up
pls help account broken can't push
what should I do to improve?
Help a newbie out
anyone got the cavern ore eff needed for each lvl
check the wiki
eff usually isnt the bottleneck, it's the amount of ore
imagine idleon without a wiki, lets thank the wiki contributors 
nah
Can you spawn crystals in C9?

whats a good trap distribution to keep up materials as im going towards w6?
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Is Harriep broken I am in the lab connected with 2x bonus but I don't get 6x.
visual bug happens 
if you are connected to lab node and you are sure harriep is on, its a visual bug
Ok
enjoy your 24hr cd 
2v1 smh
what are those
nah i was just saying hype
are you intentionally staying on first floor to get those crystals?
You wanna do my quests next, you sicko? 
do i keep gold luk obol for vman ?
yeah, guide said to get atleast 200+ from every crystal and I basically spent the day sleeping + crystal farming
are those quests done on vman
bb/db
oh
can anyone tell me how dmg i need for battlecrauk
Bold of you to assume I can read that sign
What does it say/
side note: you have to do it manually with the dmg recommended from pin message
k

umm but wdym by manual
oh ok but how then
ok
to do that, save boomerang and attack when they spawn
you should level the uhm
these 2
and idk if you have a vman or not but this is really helpful
dont think you are that far in sailing yet for fury artifacts
i dont think kattlekruk is such an issue anymore, the vault upgrades are pretty op
i am doing it with bb
even before i didn't have much issue with kattlekruk cuz db is op
he should test it, but from what i read peopel still struggle
sadge
then you have to micro manage even more
depending how far you are in pushing the worlds, would suggest db strongly. Makes kattlekruk ez pz
is getting vman worth it before kruk?
book those 2 talent also if you can alwazer
also deathbringer is a master class that get unlocked in w6
he didnt even beat kattlekruk yet
i booked everything
then you should try with the recommended dmg
no not really
ok
show us your gear
i've been holding off cause vman takes awhile and everything else seemed important
you see the video in the pin ?
rushed to w6 first if you can
then you can start getting a vman and backtrack other stuff
trying, though that rush is more like a crawl around Mount Doomish or so
Wait, can't you get stupid damage from hole monuments? atleast a 5x
idk if its additive or multiplicative
that still take a long time
doesnt hole take awhile?
dont laugh
wat is the best class for this ? feel it gonna take hours
hmmmm
is to low for kruk as bb
rings are a really easy upgrade point
but i get 50 mill dmg
this can be a start
tho speed pots can be changed to dmg pots
recommended is 50-80m
Oh... that was fast 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1130325661433737276/LegendsOfIdleon_Z0g5WS4Ede.mp4?ex=67c8600e&is=67c70e8e&hm=3795a30556bae08ffbec32ae4c35a64e05b7442a3316372617e737d2dea8303a& is a video as vman vs nightmare kruk but same princible with bb
not on the wiki i checked
I fr need to upg my splicers
dmg pots ?
theres no way to reset merit shops, right?
damage pots, aka. strength potions
yeah but it takes time and gets slower, and i inted by not getting chizoar armor
oh ok
not really because you can skip chizoar armor
Glad I do 20T damage as vman so I don't need to micro manage this 😭
W6 crop depot is too op
whats your divinity looks like btw
did you already unlock arctics + nobisect
yes, i have a 100% for goat rolled, just need to save points for a day or so
dang, I should do divvy jail but want to get some lab exp bonuses
@ashen pike if you have time check toolbox to see happy hour
and search for a team to carry you or just join a pug party
pocket div is on harriep, nobisect, everyone is linked to bear right now, and my ES is also on snake cause why not
srry but not rn
i dont mean right now, just overall
check when is the next happy hour and see if you can join a party
bottom left in toolbox
get your free stats + ring
once i get goat, should i link everyone to the goat directly who's going in lab jail, or is it better to pocket div that so links can be more spread out?
to do bubo you just need the talants and the alchmey bubbles
since you dont have omni yet i would link every jailer to goat
pocket divinity: snake + harpier
and if you are active pushing, change snake -> nobisect
if you want to claim your afk, change nobi -> snake
and afk gain dont do shit when you are not afk
makes ya feel good
would you look at that, it's on the wiki 
0 days without wikiable questions in *w5 chat
how does one even miss it
its the only thing in motherlode's subpage
by not googling and checking the wiki
he said he checked the wiki tho
oh
I mean, at least it is interacting with the community
Nah, there is a thing called nunya

ty
well actually for some its faster to ask the question in here than to wait for the tab of the wiki to load 😭

Can i combine Connect to Lab (Bear) link with Connecting to lab also enables Divinity (Goat) link as an update from village?
how does the harp work?
wait for charge to hit 100%+
run finger/hold mouse over strings
toggle button to change letters of strings for different effects
untoggle to interact with harp again
Check your inbox lavaflame pleeease
just wanna make sure, is this still the case for doot owners? cause i just hit w5 and havent unlocked a single god even
An easy way to check this is just to look at lab 
people uploaded via Arctis (2nd god) will be have the blue power symbol compared to manually uploaded that don't have it
do i still have to press the link button on the 1st god to link to all gods or should it just apply?
sooo... does this only work actively?
u have to click on it for it to dig nuggets so yes
is there a way for gaiming to harvest automatically without me logging on and is there a way for anvil resources to be claimed automatically
links are just cosmetic except for Purrmep
oh wait, im stupid. the char i checked on didnt have divinity lvl 2
no for gaming, yes for anvil, but only on the first character you login to after daily reset. auto arm 4
should i still throw all my chars onto divinity even though i have doot?
yes, though once they hit level 2 they can go into lab to make use of Goharut (god 5) to gain both lab and div xp/points
div levels are honestly more important for dooters since you get access to all minor link bonuses which scale with levels
https://i.imgur.com/cAfwvK7.png
THATS SO STUUUPID
why only on the first you login in on
wow so nothing changed; still just throwing all chars into lab. thank you!
it's the daily reset portion. if you're already on someone and it rolls over, it should happen to that character
oh, sorry, misread. lava 🍝 
nah nah i got that but why cant it just claim on all characters man
?
the anvil production item get claimed from all char at every reset if you unlocked it from the arm in construction
news to me if that's the case? Pretty sure it's been confirmed multiple times it's not though
i litteraly tried it today and it only claimed on my dk i had to claim manually on everyone else
I click the funny luk bubble daily when i wake up
and my es ain’t producing 2B thread
only need 1b 
it might be a different thing if you login after daily reset
since i am usually always afk overnight
Let me use silver stopwatch after filling my water
preparing it so i can click bubble after reset
You know, X had a theory that it worked like this
So I stand corrected
anyway, i check anvil on everyone regardless since I only check them like once a day or less 
Lava has something like this
Which one do you think is easier to understand 
Anyway, it's basically useless if you just claim your anvil anyway (which honestly you should, cause then you get level ups and more points to spend and gems
)
AFK lab or AFK bravery hole (i'm around lv 20-25 lab for all my characters)
how many bravery hours? and do you have goat unlocked?
i have doot and i have 80 bravery hours, just got w5 recently
i'd probably go bravery to 2k for now
how far can you get your lab bonuses to btw?
im at spelunker obol, last 4 missing
10 characters?
9 characters
time to check my alt again 
yuge bubbles 
hmm, yeah, i guess the one extra character would help
that with 8, all 40ish except last at 11.
the next node probably isn't useful for you, the vial doubler is strong...but you also need vial levels, so again probably not as strong as some bravery afk atm
okay thanks haha, theres a lot of catching up for me, just came back about a week ago and collected 900 days of afk
wait is zero point better than rex?
bruv
yeah, attack speed is capped at 20% (i think) for afk. you get plenty from bubble, meals, pobox
gotchu
what should my last archer be?
Save as base archer or even begginer
Current meta is 2nd SB but that’s lost a huge amount of value due to power creep
current as in the meta before hole 
Update where
when
lowkey how do i beat the first rift like i kill them all in one shot but they just dont spawn 500 in 5 min
what class r u using
dk
ES has respawn mechanic, DK has respawn mechanic
you using your talent to make them respawn?
ye
do u 1 shot the mobs
ye
Play literally any class except Vman or BB. Respawn mechanics work
speed pot it is
?
reach mob faster -> kill them faster
Is there any way to increase str lv I'm stuck in world 5. Cuz lack of. Accuracy
Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)
is 196 % speed enough
zzz
I just got doot. How does divinity change now?
pins
hoow do I free this guy
get a kunai
fack and how do I do that
can the guy be hitting the door or do they have to be "Sneaking"?
Can’t find items while slapping the door
has to sneak
any time
So if I have doot, I should have one character link to purrmep and the other characters it doesn’t matter. Is that correct?
Thanks
Currently at 2nd map of W6, just getting everything caught up. Is it worth spending all coli tickets on W3 for Xylophone cards? its the last card I need for rank 4 W3 card set.
It seems like a waste because I am not having accuracy issues on the 2nd map.
Once you've untied all chars, you can trash all your kunais, right?
w3 card sets pretty...useless.
Yeah eventually those become negligible and the card itself is bad anyway
Ngl w3 card set was my go to cardset when pushing w4-w5
But kinda useless now with vault
For those who haven't gotten Suggma's recipe to drop, I have a question.. Was it easier to get the W6 recipe from the lanterns than this recipe?
Lanterns is rarer so I think no
Isn't it supposed to be hard to get?
See, yes. Lantern is a 1 in 200M .. ._. I got it before I got the suggma recipe and I'm just.. wondering if it's happened to others.
Suggmas have so little mobs
I doubt lanterns have 4x though
Because it's all about raw kph, no mk and kpk bs
It's DR
I mean, it should
ES would be better though
Dk is for rare mobs drop,to base drops is Es
I mean, DK can be used for normal stuff too
Yeah, that's the rule of thumb so just wanted to make sure DK was still viable. I can get to ~400 on DK orb, but not nearly as high on ES portal.
If you want to push orb count then maybe?
Maybe use SB and build those plunders, not efficient for plunders and drops though, worse of both worlds
If you want the recipe, ES
how do i bump DR up? at a point where im clearing portals in w6 faster than im getting common drops
How are your plunderous kills
How to gain DR if you're just starting
-# aka cards and obols are in shambles and you have single digit DR
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Start with ES, grab c.Amarok pendant, and work on Card DR cards (gigafrog, snelbie, stache) probably to 4* (now passive through Vault!)
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Then farm DR and Crystal Spawn cards(ES), W1-3 can be 4*, W4-5 can be 2-3 star for now
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Back to Gigafrogs to farm Pop Obols (ES), a full set of bronze for family and personal, then reroll all of them to 3%, then upgrade to silver (place rerolled obol in left side of combine area, add a base 2% on the right)
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Next, if you have Choco Chip, you can start working on Dice Obols (full silvers, then reroll and slowly upgrade for every slot), generally from W2 Sandy Pots on DK, you also get Silver Pens to fill out your PO Box for DR/Crystal Chance
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Note: if you don't have Choco yet, work on your Shrine, c.Chiz card, and star talent
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Make sure you're keeping up with Owl for a bit more DR, yellow bubble, and max out Vault
Work towards Kruk and GS gear
Cavern, Equinox, and Endless Summoning all provide more stacking sources of DR, too
If you're beyond all this, Plunders are a great way to boost DR and Golden Cakes for Beanstalk + personal
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354
it's me or in gaming there is a moment or if u have no nugget upgrade u cant progress ?
well, not that you can't progress, it's just really slow
well get more for the SB talent
if this is their "base" value shouldnt each one be giving me atleast 8bil?
8B white bits
green bits = 1000Q white bits
https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/ @bleak gazelle what level I need to get catching to on my vman?
three more hours
// Alt W5 Div Nobi
and as for tryign to unlock chemical, i see people often say to do the 0.1 but if i harvest all it brings me to roughly 2%, should i be doing the 2% or harvest 2 plants and then do 0.1%
at least 87
if you're at 5s gaming, then harvest all is fine
lava also recently added badluck protection, so your harvest all chances will probably start to slowly increase
with kitsune on im at that so think im pretty far away from 5s gaming
Would depend on how far you are into farming, but yeah, probably still a bit away
Not super far off, but yeah you will need something (something like 2x more speed with 180 crops + some db bonus I reckon -> Or was that for insta?
)
Also depends a lot on your farming crops
Hello actuallyacecow. Today I saw someone named totallynotacecow it was scary
I hope not 
yea im only at 61 crops found, just unlocked land ranks

my 2.3x bravery run was spent on a single opal 
only having 2 bravery hours is rough
do i focous the day market stuff or let the plants evolve so i can get more xp(and get the next seeds)
I have over 2k in that
All but for main is now level 40 and higher in Div now
i'd always have at least one plot pushing new crops (maybe 2-3 depending on # of plots), the rest can work on whatever. if you think you can make enough crops for day market stuff, work on that. if not, then push highest for a bean trade
god my refinery is so behind 😦
How long have you been playing? And what are you at, just curious how you stack up to my alt
You and I both. It gets better with time and practice.
I abandoned my original account and started over a little over 2 weeks ago. I forgot how slowly things like Refinery and Divinity get going
Feb 16 is when i started
refinery is at 6-3-2-2 because i messed it up at first and im still evening things out
oh, guess i'm pretty on point then, 11-6-3-2, i made this account back in august but only really played it during the events
// Alt Opals
here i was finalyl getting ready for the grind of getting chemical and i got it on a 1.4%
haven't touched TD since the tutorial, so green is stuck
That's nice
do i immediately start working on the equinox bubble then?
or harvest them for now and do that later
if you want, means you'll basically lock your gaming progress for a while. could just wait till you hit 5s gaming
15 Chemical Plants? You certainly can, since harvest all doesn't harvest Chemical Plants
New account or Beginner only challenge?
just an alt account to see the new stuff
a picture of the cow in their natural habitat
?

do w5 or 6 daily quests
how many opals total?
Do I push or do I wait for Nobi then push, or do I not push and catch up on all orther aspect Im lacking at
i think usually after 80 opals is when you consolidate 
nobi or not, you need more accuracy
Yeahh, but Im debating whether I should take my BB to fishing or div
could candy some levels if you want and resample, div time would probably be better than jnust afking fishing
make sure you use bargain tag to reduce costs for shaq
and pump your strength, too, if you've been slacking. shaq needs base stat to be good
Yeah, kinda figured
attention:im about to test my sugar level guess what it is and u win
Got 14 bloach sample rn :"
is it worth rushing BB to get deathbringer unlocked after w6 is open?
when was the last time you sampled
tiem to catch up
maybe for the farming boost? and hopefully to unlock ribbons. DB really needs some levels to do any real grinding, not sure how easy the first levels are to unlock ribbons are
what tier would you put the cavern's gem shop stuff?
!review probably has them in their tierlist
but, explorer xp is probably high A tier as that helps unlock all new caverns
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i'm start to lack dmg, any tips i should use or maybe what i should focus for that?
@hearty shore they're for different slots. if you mean dice vs kruk, either keep the one that's more important to you on, or just swap to kruk when claiming afk and swap back to DR when active
i usually just keep dice on the family cause i'm lazy (and most people are in hole so it doesn't matter)
how's your accuracy? 
Yeah I meant dice or kruk oops
Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)
don't forget to link to nobisect (3rd god) when you can for double kills. also remember that afk info doesn't reflect kills you gain from active respawn talents
37 hour claims coming in feelsgoodman
Where can I get like a list or something on where to get opals
Oh i had the skills card equipped 
Hopefully you did all your settups correctly
ehh, i'm not concerned about efficiency rn, got 9 people in lab and one in monument lol
does the c9 shroomie monarchs attack go up aswell or just its hp?
Hahahahaha still needs settup tho
i need to reprint, but cba
every cavern gives opals as well as gemshop 
#1303761365273415700
Thank you
hi, is there like a requirement to be able to hit 120+ for first td map?
i can hit 110 pretty comfortably but for some reason the 120 push is hard af
every multiple of 30 wave is quite a bit harder than the one before it 
more mobs + more hp
my poisonic is lvl 35, am i far from being able to complete 120?
should be fine, what setup are you using?
there's a 130 guide here that uses a 32 poisonic 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
how i can farm the chizoar pendant? and the chizoar set should also upgrade my dmg right?
i use this setup, but with 3 less kraken and 1 less frozone
w6 crystal mobs are nuts
cuz next tower is worth 40k so i focused on getting poisonic to lvl 15
also for some reason the frozone doesnt hit the mobs for long periods of time sometimes
could try this
my kraken is 32 and party starter 38, cud that be a reason?
you can farm keys from w3 miniboss (stack your orb score as high as possible then summon) or colo, neck drops from any difficulty. higher has better DR but lower is normally better for key efficiency
then upgrade to green version is a w3 merit purchase
yeah, probably the reason for losing on 120, not enough speed to refill krakens to hold everything
I got both monuments around 2k hours, should I keep them at bravery?
usually better to push justice first
makes it easier to hit higher waves consistently to get access to justice multi and monument afk%
yea my krakens are around .86?
with 5 party AAA
it's prolly that then, ig i hold off on it for now
just wanted to push it cuz i was planning to resample
wanted the prayer
how he only needs 3 krakens i def cant do rn tho lmao
but how does he have all those points to work with
i get stuck at choosing to put another tower for 40k or focusing on lvl 15 poisonics
i already got 3 obols but no scarf from chizoar 
i need all these spices before i can get egg rarities it's so sad
how? Do you have Vman alr?
got my first lucky lad
Or just good shaquracy?
nice! Grats
thnxs
yes
oh… my maestro just has 8. More. Painful. Levels. To go. Until i can start, and once i have noobisect, ill focus my characters into helping with vman quest line maybe.
after tonight its just a coinflip…
i feel if u get import too soon in gaming that f u upgrade tab and increase too fast price of it
naur way his 2 lvl higher cannoli is doing that much work tho right? i mean ill get it up but i prob shud hold off on it till i get my towers higher
I am out of time candys…
i wish dk felt faster, i know its good but its so little stuff
that's what i did, i got nobisect and rush 1m kills on my bb, then the 12m gmush kills it cost me 3 astral candies
with the crystal island you also kill everything get the lvl 150, that's what i did, my maestro was lvl 100 and the others 50 came from the island
i don’t have islands on maestro 💀
also which candy is astral?
one who gives you between 5-500 hours, cosmic time candy not astral mb
ohh got it.
nope they just misnamed it
the cosmic time one mb
just use bloons with transfussion to get to the boat and tp to the island
😮 brilliant.
then stay like 10m depends how much dmg u have in your maestro and then 50 free lvls
also while we on topic of islands, whats the recomended order?
i remember trash and crystal were first two if im right
oh
Currently I have this lineup
BB
ES
SB
DK
BC
Jman
BM
DK
What should I make next
Guys should I choose barbarian or bb
it's between BB and DK
but either way you'll want 1 BB and 2 DK's anyways, so just choose one you want now
BB focuses on cooking, dk can be a good pusher
I might get bb
If i afk active should i do flag orb or wormhole
if you make him BB he will never leave cooking
Have few alts at walking sticks farming them
what should each character be doing? I have SB pushing, BB cooking Maestro working on the vman quest, one DK mining, Bubo on lab, and everyone else on divinity
i just jump from dementia full set to this 
i have the bear
throw everyone in div
😭
div is actually the most boring skill 😭
i'd def move bubo and bb back to div for now
yeah, everyone but vman and DK i guess if you really want vman quest
div can take a while, just make sure your prints and stuff are good
Imma move my dudes back when they are lv 320 or so
I have a new character slot should i do SB or ES first
Not my beloved bubo 
aren't you supposed to have two of those?
ngl, feels weird seeing you type in here 
i have one of each, maestro, and another dk
If they are duplicates get SB first
ah
SB for catching prints, ES for atoms
Well now that w5 chat isn’t nearly as toxic as it was a year ago I am safe
is fishing supposed to be your lowest print by a lot at this point?
Unless you just meant me typing I’m general
my 10th char still beginner, waiting on next master class to decide, see if they shake up the meta
bloaches are dreadful
ok thats good
Catching is definitely a close second tho
yeah, in general, in maincord
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these good enough to throw everyone in lab?
is dementia good enough for w5 or should i try and make the void set?
Not very many familiar faces anymore though
the golden era is gone
Go from dementia to troll
oh, guess i should look into unlocking that then. thanks
just check #endgame-chat-w7🐟 or #endgame-gen-chat a lot of them moved there
Im the luckiest lad
how do i unlock the 3 other lantern artifacts for sailing?
w6 jade emporium
Nah most of them got axed
if by lab you mean div, then yes 
just pop them out to resample when you get more bonuses
yeah i meant div lol
ahh, well that's another issues 
mb still new to w5
once you get goat you can kick them back to lab 
though you'll probably want to take a pitstop in #1303761365273415700 for bravery afk
@bleak gazelle nice
i swear directional xp cogs do not exist
nvm, not me trying to get directional xp cogs on decent and nooby ones
is the 15 chem dream bugged
Whats a good DR to farm the kruk necklace for the divine scarf?
rn im at 13 DR on my Vman and its tough gettting my first one
do characters get xp building cogs
hello totally not acecow
i couldnt see that frfr
im finding stuff to do
i have so many talent points in lower jobs left over, is that normal or should i be booking more skills?
normal if you're using auto arm for max books
can i reroll this on 6% dr ?
arm just got the third upgrade
ty
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what do good keychains look like?
depends on what youre going for
not running out of storage space hoarding
most of them are probably bad then
if you send your IT or IE I can take a look
steam account 😦
I had the same glitch a while ago. Just happens sometimes apparently. Gotta leave and you lose the keys sadly
Yea....🥲
which islands should i be going for with sailing
all to get the mats from it
but if you have more boats than island just focus on an island you want the artifact it give
oh fr? i was sitting here thinking it wasnt optimal to have everyone on different islands and was just too lazy to ask lmao
ty
does F string are good?
well can get all the different mats so you can upgrade your boats and exchange gold for it
C is better
oh you can level it up a bit then idk, just so you know next string (bit far I guess) gives exp to all string
holy balls im tripping out i just did the entire 2100 lab grind without putting my shrines in w4
I think I had it for a while then proceeded to ignore it

waffler... you're not surprising me anymore
damn so im gonna ignore it
gonna open the hive/harp power first
i alr got 2100 lab but im staying a lil longer so that i can get 100% for god rank 3
will proly get another 150ish level if I launch the game and collect my afk gains
i honestly thought my ribbon placements weren't that bad considering i have extra ribbons and i don't have many meals unlocked yet
but a t16 on cabbage was definitely a mistake
💀
slightly yes 
i got fairly lucky during the valentines event with t8s and t10s
most of your ribbons were not great
placement that is
idk i was following the ribbon guide in the db guide
my thoughts were since i don't have the higher tiers i can spend some t8s on the lower ones
thats mostly due to giving ribbons to early players and them not having lots of meal
my alt has a t8 on egg 
who is you
yea, ik why they do it, and it makes sense why they would, but it doesnt make it hurt anyless
definately not acecow
the t16 hurts me as well but at least it's cabbage right?
ye
ehhhhhh you can tell yourself that to make yourself feel better
right...?
kinda alright?

definitely not hard coping on that one
also what's interesting is when i got lucky with my 500hr variable candy, the 220m kills on gmush i got were "lost"
when i say lost, i mean suddenly my entire deathnote is full of blue skulls
oh yeah the usual
the 220m kills spread out to every single mob i had from w1-w5
nah thats just how vman works
so i now have ~3m kills on each enemy
vman speedrun 
oh ok
so i really did lose the 220m kills on deathnote then
well anyway once you do a speedrun on vman, all his kills are reset to 2mil (or higher if the portal on that map require more, like crawler in w5 needing 3m)
damn bruh and when i got lucky with the 500hr variable candy
and basically free portal for him as well
no i did the gmush for vman unlock
i think what happened was cloud sync problems
wait wait
so if i do a speedrun i lose all the previous kills i got on mman?
if you had the 220m kill on vman, you do speedrun it reset back to 2m
yea you prob shouldnt have spent a variable on gmush kills on mman
all kills are reset to 2m
i didn't expect to hit the 500 at all
and i didn't know that lmfao
yea its never explained in game
yeah all his personal kills
i was wondering why i had diamond skulls on everyone
btw if you want edit priviledges on your doc lmk
also quite the reason why your vman unlocks new portal after a speedrun 
actually yeah i'd like that so i can tick stuff off
oh shit i can book symbols right
conveniently i was going for level 30 on all w1-w2 skills yesterday so i basically have dementia tools on everyone
managed to get chopping and mining to family level 300
i was always wondering why the sampling sheets didn't have skilling cards
are multikill obols worth upgrading
I ignored them forever (till recently)
Only use case is vman speedrunning, but I dont think theyre significant for speedrunning bc its only base MK not MKPT
does the reroll for higher misc stat apply to every obol as well
what about pushing portals? i guess base mk doesn't do much in itself
only time youll have MK when pushing is w6
its always appreciated if you want to minmax, also I saw them in a recommended build for speedrunning
errr i had mk the entire time during pushing until near the end of w5 lmfao
vault moment

you had 30B dmg at the end of w5?
the valentines nametag and the sacred methods cape also carried
ah no i lost mk around lampars
maybe a bit before
thats still insane
I finished w5 with 65M dmg on DK
nvm, idk where 65 came from, I just remember something about beating a world at 65 something dmg
ancient image right here
chaotic or nm
where is that image from
my w5 push lol
oh
heres my current DK
you still keep chamarok?
BIS for DR on pendant
wondering if i should go farm pop obols
cus technically i can do it when i have higher dr
did i put that on your review?
i wonder if you're asking this genuinely or in the fashion of "i didn't, so don't do it and focus on what i put in there first"
likely the latter so i'll follow the review
why is it only 6 levels higher than mine
but the dmg diff is so crazy
If i put it on there then do it, if I didnt, it might still be a good idea, I just didnt remember if I had or not
I figure with that dmg you'd be like 680+ 😭
levels dont matter
I have neglected GT for a long time okay
I know but I figured you'd just be higher 💀
no you didn't put in on your review
I'm only at 1500 
my Bubo is 650 if that helps
why are you laughing dadummy
how did you get all those class lvls with like no dmg
much better
beating unGODLY amounts of minichiefs
i honestly did not know how important player xp is
crystal farming?
it IS construction
idk what he was doing when I left him there
gonna have to wait for level 40 before i can go for superb cogs
carpenter = BR per con lvl
asked this earlier and i didn't get a response but do players in cogs gain construction xp
yes
focus on making more cogs rather than higher quality cogs
it'd be a pain if not
what about mine?
i need superbs for directional xp though
then put some on that
only 3 slots per type

show me your xp %
not flagging?
lets hope he unlocked some 4 new recently and forgot to put new flag
nice, thats a fun deposit
yes
i'm gonna be fr td is so tiring
tyson or sandy pot if need glass shard (pro tip you always need glass shard)


