#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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for me i did bravery at 10k first
idk if i should get to 24k hours
see u can tell i havent done it in a while cuz of the 3.6x multi
been focussed on farming for a week
i think you should do it every 2 days or 1
the multi goes down after 2days iirc
slows down*
ye i just forget to do it lol
wishes wise idk if i should keep unlocking or use em for upgrading
we are the opposite ig i focused on hole first so i neglected my farming
my bubo was just lvl 460 yesterday
im done with farming for a while now, got my 3500 plot rank so ill prob focus on the hole now
i just started pushing with it
meanwhile my plot rank is 130
that was me last week lol
Until I unlock more bravery bonuses, I'll probably play that one very safe to get at least something
took me a week to go from like 200 to around 4k
since if you fail, you lose the bonuses in that run
i weirdly took a pic of my farming last week lol
did you remember what your night market look like before u started saving crops?
idk i like comparing myself
i only got a pic of my stats
not my night market sadly
so uhhh 10 days in, i made it to w5, what do i do now? start lvling bubbles? when do u start using the lab? it seems so useless
i think you start doing bubbles in w6
ok
w5 focus on pushing and jail
im kinda at a point where i cant safely afk anymore
you can do the easier alchemy first
stuck on the first w5 map
atm, idk how to obtain red coins
the coin gain will just go up the farther u get
before vault came out i cant even get red coins when i started w5
I'm barely able to earn starfire? coins
when i got to world 5 red coins were so hard to get lol
I'm in w6 map progression trying to catch up
before the vault i was getting like 4 red coins a hour in later world 6 which kinda sucks lol
!merit5
1๏ธโฃ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2๏ธโฃ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4๏ธโฃ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5๏ธโฃ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
โ๏ธ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
โ๏ธ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
in that 200-4k i got magic beans 3 times lol
thats why it took me a week
prob could have done it faster
what % of speed gmo do think i should start saving plants?
This is what my stats looked like last week
I was 9.9% when I started going for 100k
i think my first magic bean thing was for 10k magic beans
im only getting 200-400bean per ticket so far
whats ur stats rn
k for this how much u have over 1000
u bought the gem shop plots?
nope
ye theres 12 there u can get which will help
well that 7.85x speed u have will only go up if u start getting 1k of crops
i cant buy it im buying other stuff
oh wat, w5 is not open for all my character?
it should be

u using ur deathbringer for bones rn or no?
im pushing with db rn
ye the choices are either get bones with him or use his points for better farming
i just switch to skilling to see what i can get so far
so youv unlocked land ranks already
good cuz the deathbringers 2 talents help with that
focusing on speed is ur main focus rn
and more crop evo
for the evolution gmo i stopped upgrading it at around 1.3x
6x dr are good to farm pop obols now?
i think
cuz the more crops u unlock the more magic beans youll get
ye u should be fine
how much per hour tho
More than I had back in my day farming it
yeah with companion it boost 100%
oh yeah pop obols come like water now
what drop rate should i reroll the pop obols?
maximum 2%?
wym by that
you reroll them to 2% at copper so the silvers are 3%
wait no
this
u can get 4%
3% at copper for 4% silver
ahh

you can re roll later down the line but cheaper to do it earlier i belive?
okay thanks
drop rate bout to go crazy in days now
maybe 7x or 8x if i done with it
btw when your upgrading you only need 1 rerolled obol and you just place it on the left slot
yeah

later combine 3 + 3 dr right?
No i mean you can combine a 3% with a 2% and it still gives the 4% silver
no reason to do 3% and 3%
ahh okay
When should i start farming pop/dice obols?
when all drop rate card become 4 star?
u have the Deal sweetening upgrade from the jade emporium?
i got all emporium upgrade so far
wow so farming the only thing u havent focussed on lol
yea
yeah sneaking is goat tho
wait you havent done rift yet?
give so much dmg
sneaking was nice, now its just get better damage for me 
yeah
im on rift 59 rn
for why
im still at 5k doors and now its q
you can brute force it with that
ye but he is like the only guy that can survive this floor lol
everyone else would be above 60%
you guys do active farming on pop obols?
im doing this with 25q per char lmao
damn thats gonne take forever
active is the only option
of course
do it with ES also
im doing this with about 130qq an hour (total)
so far got 3 pop
active always
unless its like vman
ahh okay
When do you guys know is the right time to try and untie new people? I noticed sometimes all of them run around when they have kunais after awhile
usually if your detection is below 50, ideally 30-40
is it worth to put a character on the top floor when he has 90% chance of knockout but he makes the other lose like 20-30% chance
Ahhh ok ok. If I leave them with kunais overnight will they focus on the left guy first if I put them on him?
like my 5 guys at 40% on the top floor but i put this 1 guy up and they all in the 10%
but that 1 guy is 90%
do it
I think so?
if its gains is more than that of the lower floor i think its worth but if not then no
Haha ill try for science tonight
there will always be bait guys to just lower the detection of others
Yes, these are called "buffer" characters. Generally you'll end up with ~5-6 buffers.
does wormhole affect the pop obols drop rate?
the bait guys gains are lower then the floor under but the other 2 not breaking the door their gains went up almost double
btw what ur item equip in sneaking?
Pretty sure it does, it's part of the main monster drops
yeah i think
I have these atm
yes, it affects everything the monster drops droprate
Yes, each kill gives you extra DR and that affects obols.
why gold coins not on inventory
you dont equip gold charm btw
u could try to get a higher kunais
ahhh okay
Ohhh I didnt know the coin thing didnt need to be equipped
Oh so go back 1 floor and try for better ones?
ofc all my guys died at the 40% before i could put the guy at the top to make it 10% lol
look here for sneaking tips
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it gives jade in inventory it said
I thought it meant characters inventory haha
nah
Ty ty
if the damage increases or exp/jade increases its worth
I was trying to make all of my characters show low detection before throwing them on top floor
ye the bait guy loses like 1QQ jade a hour but the other 2 gain like 40 and 80 more QQ
like the bait guy at 4QQ a hour and my other guy is at 69 and 152QQ
is it after this or still a distance
that would have made this past week sm easier lol
dang i only get 2 wishes per day... sad
i get like 7 so not much ahead
youll get up
u got wishy washy yet? in the bonuses hole majik section
ye i could easily have better wording for that
ye i got that
ofc u do lol
i sacrificed my string for that
was asking him
shoulda replied to him
what should i put those points into
i prob dont have as much points as u do in there
wishy washy maxed
i did this
Same i assume that means we get 600 percent??
yeah
I've not unlocked that yet
Update finally out on apple now
Yeah ima work on that for sure
i eman this
can i see all of urs since ur way ahead lol i need to know what to use my points for
wow amazing
im so far behind on the hole then u
I need that for sure need better prints
i wanna finish the equinox bubble to get a 1b print
I believe hole guide tells u where to point the pts right
where even is the hole guide
ignore that red scribble cause i dont wantto do the bars yet
wow i just looked at pinned not long ago how i miss that lol
lol
so i shouldnt do the bar one?
or i should
dootless gang
or the one u scribbled i mean
i mean if you are finish doing it theres no point putting points in it
or if you are not using it its pointless getting it
the guide gives you a recommended order for points
also idk what u mean by the bar lol
actually idk
i was confused when u were saying the bar one
depends on what u need
like that doesnt mention bars lol
the forge upgrade
i am currently pushing so i put it for damage instead of forge
ohh that makes more sense now lol
il put it back for froging once im done pushing
well i have 8 points so i could put 3 into the damage and 4 into the forge one
sry mb idk what term to use
unless it takes like 2 points to do one
but couldnt i do both
the forge and the damage
you can
ye so i havent been focussing on bars either lol
got 221 iron bars
but 34m copper bars
and then low like the iron bars for every other one
my focus is hole and village magik hole bonuses is just to good
this weapon power one brought me from 800t to 1450t
used 3 points for it tho
kinda worth it
also did the bar one
can hold 99m per slot now
time to get greenstacking bars lol
just gotta take out all the godshard ore i have in there ๐ญ
gonna take forever
ye ill start working on that
since ill need a billion to max it out how much forge slots per ore u think imma need
dang yeah i need max tha but how yall do it so easily
ima max out my forge cap as best i can
ye the vault helps sm with forge capacity
and with lava reducing the time it takes to make bars
is it better to use barrels that speed up time or give a chance to double
for me i didnt use barrels cause i was afraid of losing my green stack barrels
idk what is optimal tho
well its either 30% more speed or 60% chance to get a double
whatever your highest barrel available is
also depends on what you're trying to melt and your forge capacity
rn I'm blowing through an entire stack of godshard from a 1 hour candy without barrels. If I add barrels, i'm just losing the whole gstack for no reason.
Yes
wow no wonder i had sm godshard bars before
But u need ur archer killing mobs
ye cuz of that talent
Yes
also i made the godshard mage weapon and didnt realize i needed level 525 ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
forgot to look lol
Well active bubo and u ll reach 525 quickly
them hands have no lvl requirements 
I'm starting to have liquid issues trying to upgrade bubbles
yoo been a while since u talked lol
bubo time!
and bubo is not ready for full active yet
do you have rift slug?
I don't
sadge
I could do 1 cc in a decent spot to gain some liquids?
u know what level to make that tenteyecle eye be 4 seconds
300
like exactly
Do u have some tower defense setups for all worlds 140+
hell be there in like 5 candies
Maybe 150 +aawell
liquid issues and bubo not being ready for active are exclusive statements unless you're God's most devout alchemy fan
I don't. The guide does.
400 actually mb
where
exactly 400
In the guide. 
Oh thanks

the highest i can get my talents are 303
Hi Guys, quick question. Is the reset time different for everyone? Or is it the same? And what time is the reset?
400 tentacleye is not currently achievable
im still missing the sovreign version of that 1 artifact
the same time you created your account
cuz of pocket watches it will prob be different then others
server weekly reset on thursday 0gmt - sets new lab chips, killroy fights, w2 boss weekly
personal weekly - your killroy gets set to the server's killroy, giant spawn rate, rando island, etc.
Oh, I see. Is there a way to find out? Cause I actually forgot what time i created my acc.
check your guild quests
also if u got 2 rift slugs, would that be plus 50 to all talents?
no, pets dont stack
k good cuz that would be dumb lol
imagine saving for like 30 rift slugs
and getting 750 more points
Is this a good cc considering my stats?
200 tentacleye?
Its definitely on the very low side
I was able to level cc to 144 and tentacleye to level 141
but I can't get level 200 talents yet
i think i got like 50k on jelly pre 200 tentacleye
alchemy box on PO, print toilet logs and upgrade cc bubble
I don't have jelly unlocked on bubo yet, I might have to push bubo through w4
Below 200 it's the "better than no CC at all" territory so dw about it but generally it is rather low.
also why CC in w6
It was in w4 on soda cans
tremur worms is where i always go
since I kinda had no other decent options
your timer resets if you swap maps so you don't know how much CC you got in total
Oh
so you certainly got more than 8k
I didn't switch maps at all
bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
can you show your active bar
it looks sm like world 6
i got finessed by poison lmao
was I supposed to?
i fell for that sm also
ok well soda cans is an abysmall map for CC first of all
This is how it looks
so 8k might actually be realistic there
oh lord ok
just got my 8th char slot, what should i make?
get fireball and skull out of there
jman if you havent yet
you got one of each already?
i have jman now
get the potion throw out
and 1 of each
second dk
bet
thats my cranium cooking set up to do
@wintry grove this is all you need on bubo
Alright, like this?
yeppers
where the best tho if its not jellyfish?
tremor wurms
i only know colloseum lol
i do tremmur wurms
and that
if you dont have damage for wurms, jellyfish
but yeah jellyfish to wurms gave me like 50k seconds its sick
i mean why be suboptimal if you want to cook
i got 500m only
w6 samurai > w5 wurms > w5 OJ > w4 floms
Oh right the po box
i mean thats more than enough for jellyfishes
i get aves of 600k on this but 1&2 swapped
shoot i need the aura at 315 to make it bigger
i cant even get there sadly
Auspicious aura
lol
yeah gotta open it soon
for troll armor
hope you have your nullo salts prepared 
google says that we can make up to 12 characters in idleon lol
i wish we could do 12
Lustre is a scam
Troll need the same salt
I know I been making the troll set for my vman

You can. Just gotta reach the level required. 
ye level 10k
gonna ignore lustre till i got full troll set
You can ignore it until you're done with armor altogether. Besides the boots, it's useless outside of slab stacks.
hey guys, tenteyecle at level 40k has a 99.751% chance to reduce the cooldowns by 202 seconds lol
imma get there one day, trust
Shirly
yep
what the idleon wiki says lol
ill have to prove it, gimme like a year
What are knockouts, and what do they give?
just got into w5 any general tips for divinity? it feels like its gonna take forever to get my first god(?)
killing the enemy in 1 hit without a weapon
What does it say on the tool tip?
Making better gear for my vman but it needs troll gear
You have a divinity guide in the pinned messages.
ye even if they have that stuff it could still be nice to help
?
the little question mark by what tells u to do the knockouts
There's no tip, or maybe I'm just stupid
there should be a lil '?' near the vault upgrade
Send a pic
lol
why does fronzone tower sometimes doesnt go off at all like it just stays still
idleon player
taking away those potions for the cranium cooking looks like its doing way better
pancake cosplayer lol
Or the easier variant, maybe the tower was stunned.
bruh so basically mobs has to be close to fronze like the voidnator and all those range is pointless?
helping sm, thanks
not quite
whats a good amount of seconds to get for cranium cooking
for like just grinding it
I get around 200k I reckon
samesies around 160k
swolorno ur abilities placement thingy helped sm
i got over double what i normally did with getting rid of the potion
you'll have an equinox cloud requiring 100k seconds in one CC so try to clear that for a start
dang yeah
what i got rn
dis nice
all bc i got rid of that potion
which pot?
the ability
i was getting like 130k before
oh yeah
the throwing potion thingys
you dont use poison on cc??
ability should be cc revive aura fart, nothing else because your bubo might spend more time trying to use other talent
that ability is only good to scale your poison dmg, but that's passive so you don't need it on the bar
ahh
ye i used those 4
I think hes actually talking about that horrible thing that blocks your other actives
fart (flatulent spirit) damage is based on chemical warfare
u dont need the poison thing for bubo?
hes called fart???
should i skip waves after 140 wave in w1
the screenshot is all you need
This might be bad, my bubo is level 42 lab
ye I usually see people call that talent fart (4th one I have), the other is aura ofc
i mean ig he farting all over the enemies
so makes sense
yeah
?
I was using bubo to try to gain lab exp on some characters
but it's kinda... backfiring?
this is all the talent you should have, if the 'poison thing' is the fourth talent on my talent bar (or the 2nd in bubo) yes you should have it, if its the 1st bubo talent no need to have it
better not skip wave imo
the last 2 swapped for me
in tower defense shoould i skip the waves after 140 or like if i skip will i loose or something
should i swap em to how u have it
oh ok
yeah its whatever
never tried other way around tbh
Idk if I'm wording it right, but what's happening is that my bubo is levelling up lab a lot more than I expected and my lower level characters aren't gaining many levels
depends on your tower levels and all that, we can't answer for you
maybe one is slightlty better
imma try it ur way
i m asking generally
I'm not sure if I should stop trying to lab on bubo or not here
and see, just lemme lose 30k seconds for the talent back
And I'm answering generally. 
past 100, or like a certain point you're taking a lot of time to kill enemy I wouldn't skip waves
i dont understand why you would
as it wouldn't 'save' your highest wave count


ah alr
bubo will always be a lot higher than everyone else and the transfusion skill + correct lab placement is the main source he'll give xp to others
True, although I sorta... have him at level 42
with my other characters under level 20
That is normal.
you do have him all the way to the right, right?
The setup I have is bubo in lab and most in divinity if I'm not using them atm
i have 2 guys lower then my bubo in lab
so only bubo and 1 other character is getting lab xp
just put bubo in div as well to make it slightly faster no?
yeah, which I did was a compromise to still gain some lab progress
then you get goat and back to lab jail
go all the way into div until you unlock Goat, dw about lab for now
yeah, maybe I'm spreading myself too thin here, I have some trying to do skill efficiency, I had bubo in lab, bb for zow / chows
Did I sorta try to do too many things at the same time?
Why not skip waves? Or just at higher waves
If your towers are not up to par, it's easy to get overwhelmed at that point.
at higher waves I meant yeah
Yes, way too many. Divinity is already slow as all shit at the start and you're making it even slower.
Get 10 characters if you don't have them and throw 9 of them in div until goat.
๐
which was best god again?
Also don't worry about chows/s.chows/wows until way later into W6 when you have a lot more kph/multikill/damage etc etc. and can just candy your way through it.
Anyone got characters with the letter S or P
The one you needed the most. 
I do have 10 characters
i have a character that starts with s
just no p
Could you come to world 1 town soul 20
Your shawn right?
ye
Is it worth moving my bb back to divinity or let it do zow / chow
Say 1 star game sucks
Move him back.
Hey i need the best card drops cards?
You should be able to zow in like an hour each zone.
u get it or do i need to add the coma
I figured you already knew what to say
ye i did this awhile ago
So, vman is a bit tricky because while it is 1st on the right hand skills, idk if I want more skill levels on vman
Add the comma
What card should be my first 5 star
Gmush
don't use cardifiers all willy nilly
So what should I use them on
w6 stuff
Dr cards?
or w5 mr brightside
So, for vman, do I let him do skilling or do I have him help divinity
Oh alr (I have only 2 w6 cards)
Literally all in divinity until Goat except 1 ES or DK.
Alright, it is highest skill level on w1-w3 anyway, so idm
Also for the mindset going forward, you should never actively skill with your non-vman classes anymore unless you need to reach a lvl that would let you equip a better tool.
i was saying the 1 star thing in the guild chat the whole time ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ was wondering why it didnt like go to u
You can equinox up to lvl 50 to get mastery 500 easily on all.
just get your lvls up to equip godshard, past that you dont want to lvl skilling
Or equinox up to 30 and then pearl up to 50.
You can still level it for more efficiency.
Okay, mining needs 500k efficiency for equinox
Chopping is 1.05m, okay, that's not possible right now I think
and catching is 1.5m, that might be hard for my other characters to get
You only need enough efficiency to hit those big xp stimmy checks.
idk why it wasnt working
ah yes..0.5% per lvl..
Hell yeah. 
I got them both thanks anyways
!merit 5
!merit5
1๏ธโฃ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2๏ธโฃ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4๏ธโฃ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5๏ธโฃ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
โ๏ธ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
โ๏ธ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
How much accu and dmg should I get before farming Stalkers on my DB?
All in the w6 guide.
Thanks
Decided to help alchemy out with the gem shop since my main issue is liquids
stalkers in idleon, whats next? a superemission? 
just got to w5 any MUST HAVES from the gem shop?
1 gold sprinkler.
is the pinned hole guide the best one?
there's only one anyway in the serv
Are most later sovreign artifactrs under 1% find?
More or less unless you got some stacked buffs to overcompensate.
Is it normal that my dmg in breeding is saying 90k but only does 100 dmg?
1% is kinda high imo
Oh wow what the heck that's insane
Theres alot of crazy ones tbh
Someone know wat is the thing that make chest combine (for up rarity) in sailling when pile is full ?
It's SB talent
I wonder why we get so much coin gain though w7 gonna bankrupt for real
Upgrade vault already bankrupt me lol
I'm trying to finish this one here but everytime I get to 100 flag, it lose 25 and go back to 75 and i'm trying to figure out why it's not going up after 100? any ideas?
Vman talent
am at more or less 0.01 to 0.1 for the missing half I got
hum interesting,
reset vman talent or switch preset
it is on the right pre-set
well either change to a preset you don't have that up or reset your talents as with the enhancement you won't be able to finish that achievment
also no need to get it that high if you want to save some talent point as 250 is last enhancement for now
i almost click on refine, thinked was a rank up xd
take pity on me nugget gods.. please.. .. it's been so long
oh you mean that the vman bonus actually is what makes it stop at 100, gotcha XD I tought it was the other way around ๐ thanks!
yes vman enhancement = no higher than 100 and if you get 100 back to 75, if you want the achievement you need to remove the talent 
and with vault upgrade you can just reset the enhancement talent alone
yup done just that to finish this one up and will put point back after ๐
been maxed out on this for so long that I even forget it was a "later perk" from vman and not just how the class it XD
mid-late game problem x)
check ๐
Thanks buddy!
click them plant imo
this bring a W4 acheivement question but that goes on the same class so don't mind me asking a follow up ๐
should I leave it down to make this go faster or I can put it back up?
vman enhancement make this go way faster so have that yeah
idk how much faster but it helps a lot
make sense ๐ not planning on farming this right now since there is way to much active stuff i need to do right now XD mainly bones but yeah ๐
farming plunder kill is probably the last thing I'll ever do 
just getting it to like 10k was so annoying I stopped halfway to it
Drop rate bonuses though, it's worthish once you finish the w6 push
dont think cactus is in range uwu
I got a question there is no starfire in this recepie so how does it become starfire pick?
oh yeah of course but like with so many things to do it'll probably be one of the last thing I'll farm
or like do it slowly then change to do something else and back on it
you paint it with the pearls insides.
But pearls are pinkish
the inside is yellow, trust
YELLOW + YELLOW = red
Why it doesn't use Dreadlo bars, I'll never know
I wouldn't know that as well
yeah but counter image
That is better
okay fine ill let you all know lavas secret
What does the bravery staute want me to do?
starfire is just you pissing on the lustre pick, dreadlo is angry piss.
afk for 1hr most likely
Afk there for hour
Afk 1 hour with 1 char first.
Oof, thank you all!
Why everyone start speedrun with vman on kruk ?๐
I wish more recipies were that simple
any salt recepie is quite funny.
A bug. Thats the solution to it.
What is benefits of they bug ?
Oh dang I just understood how the tower damage atom upgrade works
I thought it was 2% for every tower above lvl50, so I thought it was eh
It's actually 2% for ever tower LEVEL above lvl50, so it's like 20x better than I previously thought
Star signs, theres one that gives percentage sailing speed and another artifact find chance. If i equip on multiple characters does it stack?
Also do I have to stay online for the bravery statue or no?
Afk
thanks for reminder, i should probably do the 10k goldens
Ok thank you
Hi,should I get a second v-man too double my enhancements?I have 3 character slots left(I have all classes except death bringer)
I wish mining in hole would break layers for u. Its so dumb that u pretty much get nothing if u finish a layer afk.
double? enhancement? why would it be useful 
you need to collect the ore on the ground when you claim afk gains, else you don't get your progress on the layer

It's hard justifying afking in hole when theres so much other shit to do
At least for now
Talents don't stack on any character. It will always pick the higher lvl talent.
Hole is life when there's nothing to do
Understandable. But didnt even unlocked all bubbles or started sigils/cc yet
Many many things to do
hole is a fairly short grind, aslong as you dont try to max at least
just free stats daily basically
Question is: "Is there such a thing as nothing to do in this game anymore?" XD
afk at town is nothing afk
back then nothing trophy farming was a thing or farming gmush for more cash generation but now with the soon to be 3 hole monument + nothing trophy + gmush + all the new POW10 mobs you can kill for extra bonus + all the gathering you can do for the same POW10 bonus + bone farming (at least this is going to have an afk alternative soon) + BUBO farming + statue farming + gold food or any ES stuff like peal/hamter/black lens etc. I'll be honest I don't see anytime soon where I'll be able to say that "I got nothing to do" XD
oh yeah I forgot the new "active farming XP bonus" from the vault2
When should I get almost all of my characters of the lab? I'm almost done pushing w5 with my dk now
Money
What do u mean
Real money
eclipse skulls from rift
when you're w5
dmg cards and star signs
Phoenix wings so on
Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, starsigns, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, PO Box, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)
I am a free to play
beanstalk + lots of golden kebaps
do you have any gods?
I didn't touch divinity nor sailing at all
ok, thanks!
you even get a god wich gives you kill per kill bonus
Do u guys buy weekly resets for killroy?
Nah, I ain't that kinda ๐ณ
that's a sacrifice that everybody should do
You can still farm some gems if you can farm w5 boss keys
Not from money but free gems
exactly
I got plenty of other things to buy with gems 
There are much better things to invest in than killroy runs lol
but I would only advice it if you have already other importan gem shop stuff
or if you can still farm enough free gems weekly
to spend 400 there
that's the problem D:
Same. I can easily spend 4k gem rn on cogs
I'm starting to think that div is going to take quite a while
There's a reason it's called div jail you know.
Took me 2 days of afk just to get my first divinity
remember to use these talents with your ES
well only the first 2 maybe xd
those will give you more xp and points
Non dooters 
and are account bonuses
even if you have doot, that talent give you extra divinity points
Polytheism.
I need to do so much lab until my characters can handle it without bubo pixel boost
I need to set it free
Is there any ways to boost accuracy for a lvl 200 dk
secondary stat?
Book talent
Kinda just maxed it
Shacuracy
Aight bet thx bro
Armor
what about this?
Vault
Ran out of money
this one also give you some acc
I'd say get them all to at least 75 to unlock all your chip spot, then do a 75-120 run then a 120-210 once you have enough lab xp boost from all sources
I've never been able to get a single chip ;-;
this is something you should invest your free gems
if you're finishing w5
Free gems hahaha
just buying chips?
even if nerfed, you can still farm gem from world bosses
I have 1 chip early w6 but i speedran the living shit out of it
yeah just saw your next comment about the fact you have no divinity, if so don't waste your time in lab until you get your bear and your goat divinity and that all your character are at least level 40 divinity to get the passive xp, then you can have them all go do lab while equiped with goat so you get xp from both divinity and lab at the same time
Cya in a year 
yup pretty much ๐
nah that's quite fast to do I think there also lab xp bonuses in vault now
as long as he uses bubo for xtra lab xp
and plays sailing
however with the hole update you can now get extra xp for lab from lamp so that will help you as well as making sure you craft yourself some lab shoes and rings and you'll be golden
he should do good on both lab and div
Fast?
but again that's far away for you
I am probably missing a shitton of bonus xp for lab and div lmao
way faster than before, so yes haha
Wishes 
you can also get extra divinity earning from the lamp as well
I understood half of that, but I get the idea, thanks!
Sovereign, damn
Jfc
to get more div point and lab xp
Sailing is pain. It really is.
this one is crazy af xd
sorry ๐ I'd say for lab, get to W6 first unlock and slowly progress all of your other system to get all the extra divinity/lab bonus you can and come back later to do it, doing so will save you a lot of time
completely agree but it gets better
also hole now has some bonuses for this
so I would say, sailing got super nerfed
Rn I kept enough characters in lab for the good stuff, the rest in divinity
all in div for more gains
Im unlocking islands 6 and 8 now, its gonna take ages
what about island 7?
these should help you a lot
there are also plenty of bonuses for sailing speed
It's bit further back i think, or i skipped it lul
Yeah i got the tablet
Huge
Oh no im doing 6 and 7 rn, oops
and use this stuff on all your characters
People always say "don't do sigil until you're done unlocking all your bubbles and have at least 20-200 sigil power to make it faster" well, that apply to pretty much everything in this game, you need to get yourself a global picture of all the systems and which one help which other so that you can prioritize doing long grind now that will later make every other system snowball into getting all easier as you go
Ye i split them
First three sigils are normally fine 
This is the way I've been playing this. If I can put less effort later
then I will do it later just because it's more efficient
The hard part is knowing what to prioritize when, and you end up doing dumb shit wasting time. That's where i am rn xd
then just ask ๐ there is plenty of ppl here to answer
When I started I didn't know about discord haha
Cant be shared
ah D:
it has?!
I mean, I think you need to play to have fun, it's not really a race since there will always be new players and OG top 0.000001% with almost everything maxed out so you can chill and figure you way out as you go ๐
yes they mentioned it on last patch notes or something
Oh its not about top
When they found a loophole:
It's about me wanting to see my characters/account grow. I'm stagnating hard rn
xd
Missing shitton of data, cant be shared. Great.
It's missing a lot of stuff and can't use auto review, but its something
:(
Rn im sitting on 2 beginnners but i think ill just make em into es/sb
You should have 7 chars, 1 of each class
And hope 4 warrior isnt meta
and then for dupes I think maybe DK, SB and ES
ok yeah, it "works"
Man Iโm almost done with Divinity jail jus 80 hrs to go ๐
Is there any way to increase points other than upgrade gods ?
freedom
yes I was sharing a bit of this
Already do, with a 2nd dk. But 2 beginners is future proofing
Lab jail next :(
but ya can see the whole list here
is not mentioned there @rugged sapphire but this talent also give you more points
Hmm even if all gods are not unlocked yet ?
yes it doesn't matter
each 10 lvls allow you to do 2nd link
but the bonus of points is not related to that I would say
otherwise you can also leave it a bit lower but close to max
so you still enjoy the double link
Okay, thanks !! also how do I get that post office box
Ah damn new to both of those skills, i guess ill just have to wait then
yup but from the talent I think you can do it ๐
if your max book lvl is 150
then you can leave it on something like 143 to get harriep 2nd link
plus more div points
Anytips for someone who got to W5 lastnight?
Left everyone on divinity and managed to yolo the 2nd god at 1%. Not sure which characters i should link to him and which i run around with
Everyone on arctis to get lab bonuses for now
๐
On phone so can't link too much. Check out ๐
You can unlink twice a week or after unlocking a new god. You can select as many chars to unlink as you want
Any suggestions on merit unlock order for w5? I already have 2 in loot, 4 in respawn, 2 in stat overload and 1 in atoms / exp.
stat overload was crazy helpful for me at early w5
more def, dmg and acc for free
does crystal count in portal kill?
Yeah I loved it early on before vault was here. Vault rounded out my accuracy problems nicely for where I am in w6 though!
Do !merit5 in #bot-commands
Tyvm
well then if you do not need extra stats focus on skill bonuses ๐
I would say xp should be maxed so you get that 25%
and that's good becase there are not so many xp sources at early game
Appreciate you taking the time. Yeah, the exp seems to be the consensus, which makes sense. Divinity sucks lol.
for divinity at least
this kinda sucks, helps but not enough, atoms are quite expensive at early game anyways
At least I just started my divinity grind. Just got the goat. Have 5 characters pushing world 6 and the other 5 doing lab with goat god.
great ๐
I think you're doing perfectly fine ๐
My collider is still building! I just started this game in january, so I'm in such a weird place with all of the recent qol.
I think I literally just got there
so i cant get divinity scarf unless i can 1shot nightmare kruk on vman?
Yep! Just got that today. I want the artifact one but I need some more levels lol.
you don't need to 1shot, just to kill it
I was able to kill it meanwhile killing the spawns
it's kinda hard but possible
perfect that's the major goal in lab
because after you reach that bonus your conection range increases a lot
which helps you to reach other stuff ๐
Yep, I'm ramping! ๐
I did some early afk on the bubo because that multikill in lab was too good.
Appreciate the help Yisus.
i'm good for boss like this ?
This used to be the meta back then but I'm one of those people that went for 2 BB and if there is an afk bone farming, having 2 might actually be good in the long run
but don't quote me on that, since we'll know only once it's out
Youโre gonna blow through it
Yeah the vault has probably sped up the game so much that you can get to w6 near instantly
yeah but W7 will be there soon enough and we might realize we're far from OP yet again ๐
no date for w7 ?
W7 on 2 years 
anyone got a talent guid for vman? cant find one lmao
date : TBD
Am aware, but 2 beginners is future proofing. Who knows what the other master classes be.
TBD ?
To be determined
Oh, okay
The last newbie char waiting to get his classs be like
i wonder what the new skill will be
I unlocked my first god, are we supposed to level up the blessing?
And what exactly is the "divinity gain", does it refer to the amount of points/hour or xp/hour?
points
i dont up this one personally, keep my bit for gaming
Divinity gain is just the pts. I would dump extra bits into it after you get some decent gaming upgrades since it balloons early on.
being "future proof" is a good thing but since we don't know when future will be needed, keeping them as beginners might slow your progress massively
u can balloon gaming ?
nay
I know, i might just rip the bandaid and hope 4 of a class isnt meta unless we get more slots.
that mustve been fun, gratz
Took about 4 minutes, void radius wipes enough of them that hp goes down overall
I need to go on idleontoolbox for see my cristal mob spawn chance ?
it or ie
Ty
but you're right that we might see more elite class sooner then later so it might as well be good to wait a bit to save yourself a class change
i need this at wat lvl for start farm on DK ?
do u have the crystal talent aswell
crystal talent ?
I'm a small time whale, as long as it's not an entire base class (mage/archer/warrior) I can deal with it no prob
yes crystal 4 days
nop
get that it gives a huge boost
and also postoffice for drop rate that also gives crystal spawn and poop and genei cards to get more crystal spawn rate
But for post office you want to farm crystals to get pens to get the post office to do crystals to get pens
๐ง
u can do daily post office to yk
See you in 3 years
where can i drop crystal 4 days please ?
for dk 3 box is important hp ,mining and droprate one
Picnic Stowaway quest
Oh
Speedrun talent, bossing vein and enhancement imo
More speedrun time = more vman points
More boss multikill = better vman prints & more vman points
And enhancements are cool
ight start doing all the other talents when those are maxed im assuming or should i just toss 1 point into everything since i have slug?
I really wonder what I should spend my gems on currently
I have so many options since I got a lot of the essentials
picnic storway quest it wont take that long
You could toss one point into statue, class exp & damage but if this isn't your Skilling build there's no need
Do 1 pt on all except fighting talents on your skill build
the suggested level for the crystal stamp is like 200+ so the higher the better
Since your maestro is gonna usually be mostly skilling
got it appreciate it so all the buffs fr other chars on skilling for fighting just dump all into fight skills
ty for advice โค๏ธ
yee u can also follow the talent guide, don't have the link on me rn and it's a little old but still works
i was trying to find one but all i could find waspeople talking about the class as a overview
found it :)
ur a god ty
cheers
i used them to level all skills on my maestro to 50 just to jumpstart his bonuses on the other characters
does cavern's the lamp opal/conjuror reset, also reset villager levels?
no
cooking
If it did, it would lock you out of caverns
cooking is slower than any other skills to level up and if u wanna hit that skill mastery levels its good
skill mastery
so not that relevant for me rn
skill mastery is stronk
I unlocked it from rift but I doubt it's the best use rn? might be wrong
every other skill is being leveled too fast to be using pearls on it
