lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[obsidian patio]

Thanks.

[frosty solar]

vault update do be broken

[obsidian patio]

Perhaps so but its nice all the same.

[cerulean yew]

For DB: Any hot tips on where to farm femur (first bone) now? I don't have Accuracy 3 upgrade yet so I assume somewhere in W3

[next compass]

bruh the vualt is crazy

doubled my damage in like 20 mins

[warm holly]

Vault is pretty OP yeah, makes me wish I was a w1 new player again

[next compass]

The knockout bonus especially made a difference

[obsidian patio]

For sure.

[strong rose]

i feel like i should be doing divinity jail over bravery jail since i dont have a single god on anybody yet but i don wana

also if you unlock a god on one character does it unlock for all?

[cosmic halo]

yes

[mystic cipher]

I have King Doot and bought Souped Up Tube just got goharut so am I better off continuing to sit at divinity or should I move my characters back to the lab?

[bleak gazelle]

if you have doot, you should have been in lab from level 2

https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[warm path]

ethical dooter

[mystic cipher]

Didn't know that

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome to idleon, where we don't read

[mystic cipher]

Where do I find that info for king doot

[dreamy merlin]

The pins

[cosmic swift]

Are any of these worth upgrading or should I save for next? I'm only in w5 for cash and upgrade stones and divnity, still working on w1 cards, maybe w4 progression at best.

[dreamy merlin]

They all look bad to me

[cosmic swift]

Yeah thats what I thought too

[mystic cipher]

Love being condescended to when looking for help when the game we are playing has verry poor built in descriptions

[stuck river]

What's that last word idk what does that mean

[bleak gazelle]

You asked where you can find the info, it's in the 📌 in discord, which my sticker says to check

[stuck river]

It's says
(Idk)
The
FAQ

[strong rose]

Bro was just being helpful😭

[dreamy merlin]

We just answered the question bro

[strong rose]

My damage is yellow

[dreamy merlin]

Frequently asked questions, some servers have them as a channel

[stuck river]

(In case you couldn't tell it's sarcasm but ok ty)

Indeed very frequent asked questions

[dreamy merlin]

I could not tell

[strong rose]

I don't wanna do divinity😔

[mystic cipher]

You did.

[dreamy merlin]

Nobody does

[stuck river]

[stuck river]

Me 90% done with God rank 3 and would rather gamble for nothing trophy:

[dreamy merlin]

What's even the point of spending time for god ranks

[stuck river]

Idk so I didnt

[bleak gazelle]

think i got to 3 from my last afk break and then going for 2100 lab

bit of damage from ES and better blessings from jade emp?

[stuck river]

I'm cooked if I would rather spent time farming nothing hours than doing productive stuff

[strong rose]

Well should I start? I skipped divinity and went straight to bravery jail (I don't have a single god)

[bleak gazelle]

i'd only stick around in bravery for the 80 or 750 hour bonus then move back to div

[dreamy merlin]

Yes

Bravery is nowhere near as useful to afk at

Unless you have doot

[strong rose]

Guess it's time to move everyone back over before I go to bed

Welp let's hope I can land that 50% chance in the morning

[dreamy merlin]

[solemn ore]

Hey, I know all the memes about the suggma drop, but really, wth?

[bleak gazelle]

get more DR or harder

[solemn ore]

I am at 26 rn

[stuck river]

I got it at 17 with a 72 hour it shouldn't be that hard?

[solemn ore]

I swear it doesn't exist, I even hit a 5 day cosmic there

My damage is kinda bad tho

[stuck river]

Show

[solemn ore]

Es is a bit behind this

Also this is no dr keychains, but yeah

[stuck river]

I dont think multikill would help so just maximize afk gains/kph and pray

[solemn ore]

Acecow was right, I'll

[stuck river]

Gamble more candies

[stuck river]

Acecow is right 97% of the time

[warped falcon]

Hey does anyone know why I can’t collect the winz lantern

[solemn ore]

the what lantern now?

[stuck river]

Pray more

Oh the summoning onr

[stuck river]

Unlock through emporium

[warped falcon]

No I mean I have the other 3 and they are eldritch but it shows stats for sovereign when I don’t even have the last one

Sorry I just got it as we speak

[stuck river]

LMFAO

Good for you ig

[empty wharf]

if ur damage sucks mine definitely trash

[lunar wyvern]

So now that i have this that has 100% i just have to farm 97 points and i secure a god right?

[empty wharf]

yeah

[stuck river]

Yall are young, keep up

[lunar wyvern]

Niice

[cyan hatch]

Managed to push through half of w5 last night with this. It's probably time for upgrades.

[cloud flame]

maybe the def and acc, but your damage is enought to reach w6

[warped falcon]

Dude focus on pushing to w6 and finishing maxing stuff you skipped like alch and also do caverns my gear was around that i didn’t get troll gear to like w6 but probably just get chizor armour

And you’d be fine

[lunar wyvern]

How do you have that damage? And what is that necklace, i have the next weapon and i deal 25M lol

Also how do you have 7.54 drop rarity wtf

[cloud flame]

neck is in limited gem shop

dmg mainly comes from the wings and robe prob

[cyan hatch]

DR is mainly packs

Lots of passive gains.

[cosmic swift]

Where is niagrilled falls constellation

[peak verge]

Ehh... DR is/was about 5x extra DR compared to f2p.

[cosmic swift]

ive been searching for 6 minutes cant find it

as soon as I said that I found it

[lunar wyvern]

Nothing beats the real money

[honest blaze]

I have 5 ship and 5 captains, but I can only see 4 of them . Do anyone know what happens?

[full bluff]

Did you put the captain on a ship?

Is he waiting down by the docks?

[honest blaze]

yes

There is no one in the dock

[cloud flame]

my best guess is theyre perfectly stacked on another boat

[full bluff]

Id wait till they bring loot back and then click return ship on all of them

[cloud flame]

reset map tho

[honest blaze]

I t happens to me sometimes, but the C should be watched inside another letter I think

[honest blaze]

go to another world and return you mean?

[cloud flame]

yea

[honest blaze]

I tried and nothing changed

[honest blaze]

I will try this, maybe it fix

Thanks

[real marsh]

whats the best character to farm the bosses for divine set ?

[vernal relic]

whats the alternative bones farming to sheepie?

[cloud flame]

the teeth? if possible vman with double drop tallent on

[real marsh]

ye need tons

[naive swan]

does anyone have the kattlekruk damage picture or can someone tell me if i can auto kattle with these stats

[clever lagoon]

you can afk it

[cloud flame]

its in pins here i believe

but yea you can afk, 35mil for dk

[naive swan]

ty

[glass quest]

justice status bonus are OP

[wintry grove]

Any idea why my divinity efficiency is about 0?

I just got into world 5, so I'm not sure if it's normal early

[grim talon]

because that skill doesn't have efficiency

[wintry grove]

Oh

Finally got my 8th character unlocked right when I started world 5

Do I put him straight to divinity or level him up a bit for a class

[grim talon]

can always candy the class level later

but can't skip divinity jail

[wintry grove]

I more meant like obtaining the class like warrior, mage, archer

[grim talon]

that doesn't really change the answer so
still calls for class xp lol

[wintry grove]

Once I do select a class, is a 2nd dk strong?

[grim talon]

up to debate on that

[cloud flame]

once you get 1 of all, yea its prob the best dupe atm

might change with more master classes getting added

[wintry grove]

Would it be better for me to wait a bit?

[grim talon]

who knows how long you'll have to wait though

[cloud flame]

if you have the patience for 5 more classes, sure but prob not

all we know is we're getting 2 in the next 5 months

2 dk is still probably safe

[wintry grove]

I see

[karmic yarrow]

im like half finished divinity jail im in the lab now

[weary hinge]

wanna push god rank?

[cosmic flare]

a second dk is always good for construction

[vernal relic]

i think its worth getting it now. you can just change class later when needed.

and i dont think a 2nd db would be good so just go for 2nd dk

[weary hinge]

2nd dk is not really advisable

oh wait mb forget i said that

[vernal relic]

but we have no time on when the next master class would be

it could take days weeks months

[cosmic flare]

misread db? :D

[weary hinge]

yeah, mb really lmao

[wintry grove]

Any suggestions for w5 gem bonuses?

[vernal relic]

buy 1 golden sprinkler

[wintry grove]

so a 2nd dk would be the safe option, then when I get 9th and 10th, leave them beginner until more info?

[weary hinge]

if you dont have a single beginner, have one,

[wintry grove]

I have 1 of my characters as a maestro

[vernal relic]

yea. but you could also check the other class in wiki to check if its worth not upgrading class

[weary hinge]

then dont pick another beginner

[vernal relic]

yea just dont pick beginner

go with the usual 3mage 3 warrior 3archer 1 beginner

[wintry grove]

Alright, that's probably a safe / ideal setup?

[vernal relic]

yea thats the safest

[wintry grove]

Alright, so 8th could go to warrior for example?

[vernal relic]

the beginner for vman

depends what you lack

[wintry grove]

I do have 1 of each elite class plus maestro

[vernal relic]

wait il look at for that picture of the classes

nvm il just type it

[weary hinge]

your options for double classes are ES, DK, SB

[vernal relic]

^

[wintry grove]

I see

so, if I'm thinking this right, SB is useful for bars, DK is useful for construction, and ES is useful for... what exactly?

[weary hinge]

if you dont have doot, it gives two god connections. and prints. and worship charge

[wintry grove]

Alright, that makes sense

Also, I think the game put me into a tutorial mode when making the 8th character

[weary hinge]

its just until you finish scripticus, i think

[vernal relic]

btw dont use this on ES, cause u want maestro/vman to have the highest skilling

[void shell]

Maestro transfusion when collecting souls?

[wintry grove]

So, I'm very new to world 5 at the moment, so idk how beneficial 2 es characters would be rn

[vernal relic]

idk what others do to maestro transfuion but i dont level it up on mine

[lofty field]

Msa at what lvl

[vernal relic]

whats msa again?

im kinda bad with names

[lofty field]

Automatic arm for souls

[weary hinge]

miniature spirit apparatus, w3 construct

unlocked in gaming

[lofty field]

Ohh gaming?

[weary hinge]

you can worship souls in w3town once unlocked

[lofty field]

Nice

Might open soon if have enough

[wintry grove]

by the time I reach 10 characters, I should be able to have all 3 if I decide to?

[weary hinge]

naturally youll have 3 classes with dupes, but only choose between DK, SB, ES.

[lofty field]

Ahh it would be easy to collect once i got it

[weary hinge]

yes you wont need to go to totem map to worship

[lofty field]

But first i need kraken

To push frigid

[wintry grove]

I'm trying to think what would be a good benefit at this point in the game

[lofty field]

Might aswell get my chizoar armor and helm also

[wintry grove]

Would sb or es benefit me at where I am in the game? (Very early w5 in map progression)

[lofty field]

If you want to yes

Also dk have gaming tho

Sb have sailing

[wintry grove]

Ooh, that explains why you eventually want 2 of each of those 3

[lofty field]

Its up to you

[wintry grove]

So, for divinity, once you unlock arctis, link that 1st?

[weary hinge]

yes, if thats the first one. allows everyone connected on lab w/o sitting on it

you have 2 unlinks per week

[wintry grove]

Good to know, if master classes don't shake up the classes meta, the best 3 would be DK, SB and ES?

for the repeats

[weary hinge]

i would say yes, thats what i followed. on w4 i have 1 bb, 1 bubo, 2sb, 2 es, 1 maestro, 2 dk, 1 bm

[wintry grove]

Alright, so I could start transitioning into a 2 dk setup for construction?

[digital plover]

after i get the second god, i link everyone to it and still camp in div?

[weary hinge]

whichever you want to pic first, but dk is not bad, construction is great always

[wintry grove]

Alright, since the meta seems that 1 db is good enough (if that's bb's master class)

dk is probably a safe repeat?

[weary hinge]

dk has no problems if duped

[wintry grove]

Okay, so some classes conflict with each other if repeated

[stable temple]

No conflicts, just don't stack

[weary hinge]

that actually depends on your preference

[wintry grove]

Ooh, that makes more sense now

[lunar wyvern]

How can i complete this if i always get like 8+, i cant drop my drop rate more

its the second step of only obteining 4 coconouts killing all the mobs

[karmic yarrow]

Whoops accidentally left my guild

[vernal relic]

try db

[wintry grove]

Okay, I made this way harder than it needed to be, You want more stats if doing the mini boss of w5

[stable temple]

You need 4 coconut sprites on the floor

[halcyon pollen]

Should I push forward?

[wintry grove]

Well, I think I got super unlucky here? 1st I accidentally spawned 6 mini bosses at once, then I had to deal with 3 crystal spawns afterward

[zinc torrent]

I would say yes since you just need food for 100% afk survivability

[ornate mulch]

i rushed w5 so my equipment and bubbles are a bit far for w6, should i build 10 chizoar armor for 10 char or funnel my ES?

[errant pond]

Only give your ES good gear everybody else can be semi neglected

[naive swan]

you can filter out coconut shells from card

[cosmic flare]

you dont need 10 chiz armors since 9 of your characters are in div/lab jail anyway

[keen charm]

Latest meta

[flat forge]

do i full send it?

[grim talon]

if you're ready to gamble, sure ig

[deft charm]

The fastest way to level up divinity is to put all chars on mantra style right?

[peak verge]

I don't think that works once you unlock the next styles.

[deft charm]

Vitalic gives 7 while mantra gives 1 per character

So still mantra should give more exp

If the multiplier works on it

[elfin cypress]

Mantra would give more. It just depends on if you want divinity points or not. The early XP is certainly highly valued.

[brisk bane]

quick question, what am i missing in order to get the last superbit?
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Erca

[peak verge]

more bits

[solar seal]

If you want an easy source for more bits, you are missing quite a bit from bravery (both time spent there to increase your ability to push deep floors and bonuses)

@fallen cedar re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
Its not that it is uncapped. The 🍝 code is such that the number of days also increased in addition to the scaling amount. At sovereign, it stacks up to 160 days for a total 9x bonus.

[brisk bane]

oh so bravery is the "big bonus" that im missing

i came back to the game 2 weks ago after 255 days, so just starting with the hole lol

[solar seal]

I wouldn't say 'big bonus'. Just quickest/easiest accessible

Otherwise for most folks, its just time spent once you are at high enough bit multi to get it done

[solemn ore]

Ok, I bumped the dr and damage a bit, gonna try to candy it now

[bleak gazelle]

I'd just use this and see how close you are to Instant gaming and then just with your crop amount you should be pretty close if you're not there yet, then just roll into W5 town
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[brisk bane]

every 1 sec all my gaming plants appear on screen, so i can infinitely press harvest all every 1 sec

[lofty field]

Damn how much def do i need to survive till end w5

[bleak gazelle]

what's your bit multi at?

[solar seal]

not defense. food. defense isn't a stat you chase/surpass requirements for while pushing

[deft charm]

Actually improving ur def together with hp might help pushing worlds

Thats how i did it, not a single hp recovery food used

Hemo for life

[echo crag]

getting defense passively will help sure, but simply focusing on it wont do much considering how much is needed sarting in w5

[fallen cedar]

Ah, so its a wrong description then. thanks!

[lofty field]

Yeah

Any tips on the food boost?

Ive been hard just 5 map away from boss room

[void shell]

You've been hard? Wait I didn't quite understand the sentence

[deft charm]

I hope he didnt actually mean it 👀

[lofty field]

[void shell]

Oh I just read what I said 👀

[lofty field]

Its been hard tho

[void shell]

Ah, that makes more sense.. just abuse vault

Doable without vault, prob laughable with vault

[lofty field]

[deft charm]

Ah yeah, vault made my trash geared alts able to exp at w5 with 100% survi

[lofty field]

What vault tho

[deft charm]

Without any food ofc

[void shell]

New update

Upgrade vault

[deft charm]

Codex > quick ref

[lofty field]

None

[echo crag]

ios ?

[lofty field]

Not unlocked yet?

[void shell]

It unlocks when you start

[echo crag]

but if on ios, go yell at apple to approve stuff faster

[void shell]

3rd or 4th quest in new questline, so I'd assume it's instantly unlocked if you updated

[echo crag]

[lofty field]

Can you ss?

Didnt see it tho

[echo crag]

hard to miss when you'll have the update

[lofty field]

Oh had not update uet

[echo crag]

not all that hard to max most of it, beside class exp which is just impossible

[lofty field]

What is it tho

Kinda like idle skiller vault?

[void shell]

Unless you only make 0.5lustre coins per hour.. pain

[echo crag]

thats just a tiny portion of the buffs

[void shell]

I saw someone at 52 eclipse

For class xp

[echo crag]

class exp apparently need 238T eclipse

[bleak gazelle]

a lot of flat stats for early game, some % damage boost for mid-gamers, some statue bonuses for mining/chopping, DR, afk gains, anvil speed, forge cap

[void shell]

Ah.

[lofty field]

Ooooh

[void shell]

Wait for w7 then, maybe possible

[lofty field]

Nice tho

[fallen cedar]

oh god i was praying for the xp one to stop at 250

what even are those coins

[echo crag]

goes to 500

[fallen cedar]

i havent been above that blue one in third place...

[void shell]

Close to highest tier

[fallen cedar]

dear lord. guess i won't be upgrading that one to max anytime soon

[void shell]

Right, I have 10T coins, 238T octillion soon

[lofty field]

Have only void

Damn maybe i only can upgrade some

[fallen cedar]

void should be enough to max most of the vault

[void shell]

Yeah

[lofty field]

Ooohh nice

[void shell]

Maybe lustre

[echo crag]

try to unlock the different buff until you get the cost reduction and max that one

[fallen cedar]

its just the class xp one that scales to high heaven and beyond

[lofty field]

Gonna push tonight then

[void shell]

Supposed to be early game, wonder what endgame update looks like

[fallen cedar]

he may have typo'd the scaling factor on that one

[bleak gazelle]

nah, probably just wanted to give endgamers something to work on

[fallen cedar]

it makes no sense why only this particular upgrade (one of the first ones) needs every coin ever minted in the history of the game

[void shell]

Give more DR so I don't have to touch obols

I mean, it's definitely weird it just cuts off at w2

[echo crag]

even with more dr, you'll still want obol for more dr

[void shell]

Why not make construction free

[void shell]

Stalling

[echo crag]

he wanted something for early game

[bleak gazelle]

half the game is sampling, the other half the game is gettin gmore DR

[void shell]

100% of my game rn is waiting for water to drip so I can click bubble

I just want to get decent multi resource

[bleak gazelle]

where bubo?

[void shell]

Even with my bubo running, cc is pain with sub 200 tent

[bleak gazelle]

git gudder

[void shell]

What's being efficient

I've already wasted 2 months pf my life and I still got puny rates on everything

[wide river]

my characters are at a point where i can porb push them all to w6 BUT im still lacking a lot of stuff, my alchemy stamps construction blah blah are all pretty behind cuz i took a hiatus. Should i push to w6 anyways or take a week or 2 to be fully preped

[void shell]

What part of w5 are you at

[ornate briar]

Would the "unending loot search" still be a bad thing for sailing? I'm currently done with artifacts for now until elritch is evolved to ssmething and I'd kinda want to make it give me more loot for the ships I have to all level while I'm not colelcting artifacts

[simple wadi]

Push W6 if you want. The bonuses you get from W6 will help with your other issues. But if you want to take the game at a filthy casual pace and enjoy the game, do whatever you want with earlier worlds.

[void shell]

It really depends.. late w5 portal requirements start skyrocketting, so you definitely want to have around 10k kph

[simple wadi]

Go ahead and use unending loot. If you're done with artifacts, you'll get the same or more loot with the talent.

[void shell]

But yeah, end of the day, if you can hit kattlekruk dmg, then you probably will be fine in w5

[ornate briar]

Alright imma go gambling with that thank you

[wide river]

alr ty, i can prob do it on my DK but didnt know if it was worth the time

[void shell]

Once you have nobisect and you haven't totally neglected alch and stamps, you're probably ready

W5 is relatively easy, not to mention there's vault now, further easing the w5 experience

[wide river]

my main issue with alch is fking liquids, i have a.. ok prints and doot but i can only upgrade like 20 bubbles a day if im really on top of it

[void shell]

Ah doot enjoyer

I'm in w6 and still waiting for liquids to drip

[echo crag]

make sure to upgrade the salt lick with rats, and work on the meals that increase liquids. When you get the equinox upgrade to amx also let your bubo do some CC overnight to increase the caps

[void shell]

I'm a filthy casual.. no autoloot and no overnight running, I'm still alive but that limits the things I can reasonably do

[wide river]

im a massive whale lol. almost all the packs... dont have sacred methods yet... mad af

[lofty field]

Sheesh it reach 20m dmg with vault

Ready for w6

[void shell]

No

[lofty field]

Damn

[void shell]

30-40m damage before you can enter

The god won't allow you

[lofty field]

Yeah i mean 30m++

Will farm some dmg/tier

[void shell]

In that case, go candy go!!!

[simple wadi]

I bet you're looking forward to the new companion pet system that'll likely feature an ultra uber super duper premium pet that'll cost the low, affordable price of $500 that Lava adds "for the memes bro."

[lofty field]

Ran out tho

Gonna farm now on mini boss w5

If have

[wide river]

yes i am very happy 😐

[simple wadi]

Enjoy those 5300 gems because Lava says that'll be an unused legacy system and he's making something else entirely.

[wide river]

i feel so much mirth

[solemn ore]

It doesn't say unused anywhere, it says legacy

[woeful imp]

Did this happen to anyone else after update?

[simple wadi]

Talking about the thousands of envelopes? Yeah, happened to a few people. Enjoy them.

Didn't happen to me, but I'm not salty at all =3

[prime wasp]

is the hat really good to compensate or is the armor set just really terrible

[nova crow]

Not quite sure what you're asking?

[flint cradle]

He's shocked at the damage increase form swapping armour so he's asking if chizoar armor was that trash except the hat if I got all that right

[nova crow]

I mean the hat is the best upgrade, 3 more slots, 15% more dmg, +30 on each stat..

[prime wasp]

I expected the damage increase to be better because the kattlekruk set is a few sets away from chizoar

[nova crow]

Well your STR went down somehow, even with 9 more upgrade slots over the 3 sets of armor, so not sure how you stoned them...

[prime wasp]

Oh I didn't

That makes sense

[nova crow]

Lol

[prime wasp]

Hold on for a sec let me do that

better

[nova crow]

There you go :p

[bleak gazelle]

kruk has damage and weapon power on all pieces, so of course it's better for damage

[spiral path]

please equip the best move speed potion you can...

[bleak gazelle]

it's just not really feasible to get while you're pushing through w5 🙃

[nova crow]

Get the helmet, its the best upgrade lol

If you're wanting that pure dmg anyway

[spiral path]

on my DB and I still feel slow

[echo crag]

mov speed is capped visually

still fast compared to a brand new account

[prime wasp]

Thank god I'm done pushing w5 then

[prime wasp]

I do

[bleak gazelle]

And that's why gear is on the backtracking chart
https://i.imgur.com/c1RhPXA.png

[spiral path]

new bones are stupid, I'm forced to do clammies for 40M an hour because of my acc, but bloques are only like 24M, no good in between

[nova crow]

im waiting for afk bones

[spiral path]

I want meals

let's see what ribcages at genies gets me

[muted plover]

is there anyway i can get 1 sample of this spice without the power of 850k ?

[bleak gazelle]

upgrade blooming axe, get better pets

[spiral path]

Looks like ribcages at genies has stabilized at 100+M/H, that should carry me for a while.

[high hearth]

Isn't this a w4 question?

[cyan hatch]

Do I need Shrine World Tour if I have Maoi statue treasure?

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[craggy willow]

Yes, they do different things

[cyan hatch]

Alright, it seemed like they do the same thing. Also the image in the pins is for ants and it doesn't open up in imgur, says the link is broken.

[solar drift]

try again

[cyan hatch]

Got it to work, I get it now

[craggy willow]

Shrine World Tour = Shrine levels up from all players AFK in the same world instead of just the same map
Maoi Statue = All players get the shrine bonus, no matter where they are

[echo crag]

and yeah... lava wording on that one is ....

[cyan hatch]

Yeah it's pretty damn confusing ngl

[solar drift]

basically if you afk with most char on one specific map you should place shrine there

[cyan hatch]

From the ingame info I mean, not the chart

[solar drift]

everything else is w.e. since you get the bonus from everywhere

[muted plover]

it counts on pray ?

i mean pay respect thing

[solar drift]

yes

just place shrine in world 5

[craggy willow]

You later also get an upgrade from the emporium so shrines no longer lose xp when moved

[cyan hatch]

That's cool

[solar drift]

ye, older people had to suffer for us lmao

[cyan hatch]

I mean, with the new vault you can say that again lol

[solar drift]

ah vault is not that bad

[cyan hatch]

I mean it's incredible

Helps out early game tremendously

[solar drift]

imagine afk and filling shrine to half after 1000+ afk hour combine

and then you cant move it when new world came out

unless you level it or lose all the shrine progression

[grim talon]

an upgrade on w6 removes the move penalty so

[solar drift]

ye ik, thats why i said older player had to suffer

[grim talon]

true

absolute bullshit to calculate where to put them before then

[bleak gazelle]

wdym, it was basically w5 town until goat then back to w4 town

[grim talon]

what if before w5 though

[bleak gazelle]

w3/4 it was on the map you were pushing on, then when you got shrine world tour into town

[grim talon]

though i suppose w5 is the true shrine retirement spot

[bleak gazelle]

where it stayed for a month as you kept pushing through w4

[grim talon]

fuck them 24k monuments

[echo crag]

dont say that, lava will make the next one take longer

[tight python]

anyone knows if its best to farm kruk tooth on which difficulty?

[solar drift]

normal

[bleak gazelle]

for key efficiency it's best to run on lowest difficulty

[grim talon]

inb4 it's 100k next

[solar drift]

do i go for it ace

[bleak gazelle]

if you don't care, just go nm

6x? bruh

[solar drift]

only need to hit 20m 8x

[bleak gazelle]

kek

[solar drift]

is a 2.1x mutli run

[wintry grove]

I don't get why, but once I entered world 5, I noticed crystals are spawning more often than usual, am I just lucky or does World 5 change something?

[bleak gazelle]

w5 achievement

[wintry grove]

Oh, that is why I'm seeing guaranteed crystals all of a sudden?

[rotund lance]

for kattlekruk neckless farm cheotic or nightmare ?

[cyan pulsar]

I just got the eternal flames of the divine is that the one for the quest or the other one?

[rotund lance]

if its the cape then yes its for the quest

cape/ wings

[cyan pulsar]

yes the wings that looks like dragon wings

[rotund lance]

yea final quest i think divine endeavor from the tired mole is to equip the divine scarf and kattlekruk cape

[wintry grove]

So that also explains why I saw 3 crystal monsters in world 5 earlier during the accidental mini bosses spawn

[bleak gazelle]

maybe? Once you enter W5 for the first time, usually the first monster you kill after that will spawn at least 4 crystals. You migt also get one extra from natural crystal spawn and possibly more from W4 Merit if you haven't killed anything after your daily reset and possibly more if you bought them from killroy shop

[wintry grove]

Oh, that makes sense now, at 1st I thought I got super lucky with 3 crystal spawns since I didn't had the task board yet

I noticed that my shrines seem to now be applying everywhere, I unlocked an artefact earlier that allows shrines to affect that world, is that handy?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, though you'll still need them in town if you want them to gain exp across the world (with lab node)
https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37

[wintry grove]

Oh, so it's now global as long as it's in town?

[bleak gazelle]

The effects are always global with the artifact (2nd and 3rd image). If you want them to gain xp, it's best to place them in town so that any map in that world grants xp (1st and 3rd image)

[wintry grove]

Okay, that makes sense now

[frosty solar]

kinda wacky setup

[bleak gazelle]

how are you vault upgrades looking, out of curiosity

[wintry grove]

I did make a 8th character earlier, was a bit stumped on what class to give it

[bleak gazelle]

second DK

[wintry grove]

Alright, That is what I was considering

It'll benefit construction the most and I can transition into a 2 DK setup for it?

[bitter echo]

working on farming greenstacks, does multikill per tier have any effect on the common item drops?

[bleak gazelle]

that is, in fact, the only drop it affects

[bitter echo]

yeah i knew it didnt affect other drops was just curious if it was only a portal/killcount thing or if it affected that drop at least

wish i could slap the vman nametag onto my ES XD

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I am happy I can play on my iPad again

Main now @bleak gazelle cause the vault is almost maxed but for class exp

[fickle pewter]

is there any other website like scoli's ie review, that review your stuff

[spiral path]

Yeah... I totally didn't forget to move mine when I switched from farming gmush to monument jail...

[wintry grove]

Am I in position to potentially start crystal farming soon? (non-jman odds are 1 in 880 without cards)

[peak verge]

Lose the first 8 and you're good.

[fallow aurora]

1 in 100 with chocho chip is usually suggested

[wintry grove]

It might be a while before chocho chip is available

[echo crag]

crystal farming without choco is a pain

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, about 2 months. plenty of time to work on your cards, po box, shrine and w/e else

[echo crag]

stamp and star talent

[wintry grove]

Where do you get the star talent

[peak verge]

w1 quest

[wintry grove]

oh... which?

[echo crag]

picnic stoaway

[wintry grove]

It's part of the daily?!

[echo crag]

yeah

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, one of the last one

though before the rare drop requirements

[grim trail]

i successfully updated the snail and now i get like only 1% bits of what i got before ?

[faint wigeon]

Yes on twitch in griffy’s live

[twin idol]

or have other people review your stuff

there are many that does that

[terse verge]

Did you change bit color? You don’t ever really go down

[faint wigeon]

Gaining red bit instead of Ts of Green

[faint wigeon]

I am now retired to that, ain’t doing more to lose more of my sight

[wintry grove]

Got it 😄

[grim trail]

no, still red. i get like 5 red on high plants. before i got hunderts

[twin idol]

I did 50 account reviews within 48 hours and it was both stressful and a big burnout for me

[faint wigeon]

Did you change preset with your DK where they had the bit bonus and now they don’t?

[grim trail]

yes i changed both, thanks haha

[faint wigeon]

I can’t even get over a bad one 48h after seeing and you’re there fighting wars
Have strength

[twin idol]

I asked reddit if someone wanted an account review and got too many request but I did them all

never again

[faint wigeon]

Happened to me 2 days ago when I started pushing again, I saw my bits gain were weird so went and upgraded that talent in one of them

[faint wigeon]

Do mine

[twin idol]

do you really need it?

[faint wigeon]

Nah dw

[echo crag]

he just wanna get roasted

[twin idol]

Should go to Griffy for that

[faint wigeon]

Scoli’s tool is already enough

[echo crag]

yep, no need to get someone else to shame us, the bot is enough

we know the parts of the game we are purpusly ignoring XD

[bleak gazelle]

Ignore the minibosses
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Acecow
https://acecow.idleonefficiency.com/

[faint wigeon]

That means I actually need to not be sleeping when he streams

[echo crag]

[bleak gazelle]

yeah i got 4 slots workin on it

[grim talon]

just remove all your oils on it

[bleak gazelle]

i don't have oils on it?

[grim talon]

burned all my w6 oil on copper bars

[torpid umbra]

I almost forgot to remove mine for 1b copper

[wintry grove]

Is 1 in 425 chance for crystals decent without the chip or cards?

[bleak gazelle]

still pretty high. are your cards 3 or 4* yet?

[grim talon]

when are the next card doublers

trying to think if i want those over pristines

[bleak gazelle]

5 weeks for a nanochip if you have w6 jewels unlocked

well, 5 weeks after tomorrows rotation

[wintry grove]

for the 2nd dk, I want to go to Squire, right?

[bleak gazelle]

and then 2 motherboards in nov/dec

[grim talon]

gonna be a long while for those, trapped m0 on sneaking

but yeah, I'll probably get it before it hits, surely

[bleak gazelle]

plenty of sneaking buffs available now i believe

[grim talon]

it's not that, im not on rift 56 yet

[peak verge]

Cavern buff hit different

[faint wigeon]

March and November I reckon

[grim talon]

November for motherboard is hella ass

[bleak gazelle]

march/nov

[grim talon]

missed the last motherboard cause i was literally new when it came into rotation

[bleak gazelle]

6 weeks should be plenty of time to hit rift56 though

[grim talon]

im pushing it now on my SB, apparently im over 5m/hr for it

[faint wigeon]

Grr ye

[grim talon]

getting 9Q on m0 is kinda nuts though

[wintry grove]

Unlocked my 2nd DK

[bitter echo]

i usually ignore shimmer cus i forget about it, ive got 15% skill efficiency in it, decided to do this weeks challenge and put the 10 points into 5 rolls for the book

[wintry grove]

Nice

[bitter echo]

now i can neglect shimmer even more XD (i should probably still pump skill eff)

[bleak gazelle]

jelly

[bitter echo]

i dont even have star talent points for this, kinda why i never rolled for it before

i need to look into star talent point sources cus i need so many

[lime gyro]

i just wanna say thanks to the vault i defeated nightmare on my voidwalker very easily

[bitter echo]

vault was such a nice spike, my income jumped massively

[wintry grove]

Should I start farming crystal chance% cards?

[faint wigeon]

yes farm crystal spawn chance and drop rate cards with ES

[wintry grove]

Alright

[bitter echo]

i saw yall mention it yesteday, was the 300 boss to 100 boss a bug or a nerf thats staying? cause patch notes mention nothing of it

[zinc torrent]

Yo cupcake ur w5 now?

[wintry grove]

Yes, I am, I went for my 2nd DK just recently

[zinc torrent]

Anyways I got arctis the 2nd deity just now so I should unlink everyone from the snake right?

[zinc torrent]

Nice nice

[wintry grove]

I'm currently grinding crystal spawn chance cards

to start preparing for crystal farming

[faint wigeon]

shadow nerf

[faint wigeon]

yes all on bear to get them lab node activated

also although you can only unlink twice per week, once you get a new god you get another unlink

[wintry grove]

How many * do I want for crystal spawn chance?

when preparing for it

[real marsh]

Heyo got an important question i am about to xraft full divine for All of chars should i be looking to upgruade all of them to marble instabile besides maybe one Set for drop rate farming and what stones sjould i use just w6 or kattelkruk ones ?

[faint wigeon]

what *?

[wintry grove]

like on the cards

[faint wigeon]

welp max level it is

[wintry grove]

I have 1* for the 1st one and 1* for the 2nd and Yes

[faint wigeon]

plat is max for now it's 4 star I think

[wintry grove]

yeah, I don't have ruby cards unlocked

[bitter echo]

i ruby cardified as they were in shop

[faint wigeon]

I wouldn't craft marble unless I can craft godshard

[bitter echo]

i also dont have ruby unlocked

[faint wigeon]

same x)

[zinc torrent]

Great and my ES got both deities linked

[faint wigeon]

and better use w6 stone, I don't think the one kruk drop are good no?

[zinc torrent]

Now I can wait until another 50% for mantis

Mantis is useless right?

[faint wigeon]

50% are scam

[faint wigeon]

far from it, nobi gives x2 kill count as major link and bonus dmg as minor link

so basically once you get it you can start pushing w5

[real marsh]

But isnt the All stat better then the damage ?

[zinc torrent]

I'm pushing with my ES rn since he's the one with the most dmg and stats

[faint wigeon]

hmm depends I guess if you already have tons of stats and mult to boost dmg from those stats gained

[zinc torrent]

If I could choose either snake with mantis or bear with mantis which one should I choose?

[real marsh]

Got crystal stake at eldritsh

[faint wigeon]

you could try to craft one marbi set and see on one of your char if marbi set gives more dmg than kruk set

[zinc torrent]

Not really sure how I can change my 2nd deity though

[faint wigeon]

stand under the top left altar (where a future god will be)

little image but you should see where you need to go

[zinc torrent]

Oh and then I can lvl it back up again and it'll automatically link with mantis right?

[faint wigeon]

yeah artifacts, bubbles all that

[faint wigeon]

yeah

[zinc torrent]

Awesome thanks a lot

[faint wigeon]

you can basically save a few points so you can always change that second link

[faint wigeon]

if active pushing bear + nobi

[zinc torrent]

Wait which one is nobi again?

[faint wigeon]

your mantis

[zinc torrent]

Oh lol

[faint wigeon]

x2 kill count

[zinc torrent]

Still have yet to get it tho

Can't wait

[faint wigeon]

yep don't worry do it slowly

[zinc torrent]

I'll get enough by tmrw for the 50%

Should also upgrade bear and snake for those extra div points

[wintry grove]

Got the 1st crystal spawn chance to 2*, do I continue until 3 or 4?

or get the 2nd one to 2* 1st

[peak verge]

It hardly matters in which order you do them as long as you do them.

And assuming you have your card drop rate cards at 4/5*.

[wintry grove]

I have 2, 1 and 2 in stars for card drop chance

[peak verge]

so why are you farming crystal cards?

[wintry grove]

yeah, maybe I'm jumping too many steps

[peak verge]

card drop rate cards -> drop rate cards -> crystal cards

[wintry grove]

Alright, slow down a bit me, do it that way

[strong rose]

It's nice having a surplus amount of void coins finally. I can max out my anvil

[brave fable]

ts is such a scam

[dull copper]

What should i prioritize in the hole for cosmo villager upgrades

[faint wigeon]

If you don’t have doot :
pocket divinity (link a god to all char, first green) then get 3rd blue then enhance pocket divinity (to link another god)

[peak verge]

read the guide

[cosmic flare]

are there rough requirements for wave 50 in w5 td? trying to see if the equinox bubble is realistic for me rn

[lofty field]

The middle one on third lvl?

It gives double pocket divine?

[void shell]

You can get 2 pocket divs

[peak verge]

There are some rough estimates depending on whether you wanna do it with boulders or with poison.

[lofty field]

Sheesh

[cosmic flare]

my boulder is 24, my poison is 3

[pallid yoke]

What stats should I prioritize on a my captains in sailing. Like what are the things to look out for when buying captains?

[peak verge]

You'll need ~30-35 boulder or 25-30 poison.

[cosmic flare]

thats a decent goal, thanks!

[pallid yoke]

So captains with Boat speed and Loot value are the best?

yes i see thanks

[peak verge]

double speed / double loot is also good

[pallid yoke]

okay thanks

[proven parrot]

in bravery what is retelling

[peak verge]

if you lose, you restart that story but you're likely still losing because you lose all sword buffs

[proven parrot]

so its mid

[faint wigeon]

used once to try it myself (tho knew from explanation) but I still don't want to risk it even with that 'second life'

[stuck river]

Dosent work, tried it alr

[faint wigeon]

lmao

[fluid owl]

i got snehebatu but I couldn't get arctis or nobisect 😭

[stuck river]

Isn't that normal

[void shell]

Pretty normal

[stuck river]

Ikr

[void shell]

And around 2% of people will reach around 700% "bait"

That's per god too

That means 15% of people will experience it if they go for 8 gods

[stuck river]

What

[stuck river]

Also consider the chance that the same person experienced twice

[void shell]

Yep, 2% chance to happen per god, could happen multiple times with the number of players and the number of gods

I hit the 756% threshold for hare, took 3 weeks

[stuck river]

756 is amount of points spent compared to 100%?

[fluid owl]

is this ok for first map

i'm gonna keep rest of my chars into div until nobisect so i could link to nobi

[void shell]

No, I hit 756% total on offerings

[stuck river]

151% afk gains at the start of w5, what a time to be alive

[stuck river]

Oh that
Didn't count

[void shell]

That's stupidly low kph for 151% afk rates btw

[stuck river]

It's still the same cuz u don't get discounts

[stuck river]

Had same kills with like 60%

[void shell]

Yeah

I hit 12k per hour on most w5 maps with 60% too

[wintry grove]

Is it good that my maestro is almost level 150? (I did use quite a few time candies earlier)

[stuck river]

12k I'd an exaggeration

[fluid owl]

it might be my damage

[lone stag]

sorry to interupt yallm but wasnt able to find the answer online

is unending loot search ever useful?

[fluid owl]

it's only 2.8 m

[stuck river]

No

[void shell]

I pushed w5 in 3 days, I'd say it isn't

[stuck river]

[void shell]

But it's time to build damage before pushing far into w6

[fluid owl]

i made a mistake

[lone stag]

ive left unending on 0, have nothing elkse to spend talent points on. is it still not worth it ahah

[fluid owl]

thank god i can reset it

[stuck river]

Man when I pushed w5
No roo
No owl
No vault
No hole
No super op gem shop packs

[bleak gazelle]

it good if you're gonna be gone for a week

[lone stag]

yeah i have all artifacts, lvl 299 talents. just farming mats to get lvl 300 ships

[void shell]

Yeah, ok that makes sense

[bleak gazelle]

oh, then yeah, definitely max it

[fluid owl]

ykw imma just keep my pusher into divinity so i can get nobisect so I can get much better kph

[bleak gazelle]

that's the perfect time to, let your 400 days of claims stack up

[wintry grove]

Should I finish getting my maestro to level 150?

[fluid owl]

oh wait my characters weren't in lab

once i unlock arctis i need to do that

[stuck river]

I don't see a reason not to

[fluid owl]

if my characters were in lab, with arctis, i would have gotten 4.8k kph

[wintry grove]

Alright

[fluid owl]

and if i get nobisect, it's gonna be up to 9.6k kph

[runic girder]

If were getting caves 11-15 relatively soon whats the odds lava changes this xp requirement?

[stuck river]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
I suppose I had very sad kph when I pushed w5

[wintry grove]

There it is, I believe I can now start the vman questline?

[void shell]

That's better

[stuck river]

50/50, either happens or dosent

[void shell]

Yeah, but don't get too caught up with it until mid to late w5 or even early w6

[runic girder]

Cant wait to wait half a year to unlock cave 15

[bleak gazelle]

just get more opals

[stuck river]

He has 20 more opals

[runic girder]

Im on 130 rn how tf are you getting 5x more

[bleak gazelle]

take more villager xp?

[honest heart]

Yeah. It can be a little boost to help you with cooking once you unlock him. But generally at your level it's probably not going to provide too too much

[runic girder]

Nah, im too lazy to fix my buffs so i just put in more opals to make it the right xp/h

[bleak gazelle]

i also had winter event shop purchase

[fallow aurora]

theres someone with 70m xp/hr without the villager multi from DB

[runic girder]

You got the doubler?

[stuck river]

The what

[bleak gazelle]

was it double? can't remeber

[runic girder]

Parallel villagers, the gemshop uograde giving 2x xp

[bleak gazelle]

oh, yeah

[runic girder]

Nah the event i also got its less

[bleak gazelle]

ah, yeah, only 25%

[fluid owl]

this guy looks so weird now

[honest heart]

Bro is a bit too yellow for my liking

[runic girder]

Im Still 3m short on you

Tought i was doing pretty decent in the buffs available tbh

[wintry grove]

as I'm doing the setup for crystal farming, I should be able to get quite a lot of progress on some of the monsters for the 1m

[bleak gazelle]

probably just all bravery/justice levels

[wintry grove]

since I need to do card drop chance into drop rarity into crystal spawn chance (Most being w1-3)

[runic girder]

Better hurry and make him black

[bleak gazelle]

well, mostly bravery for me

[fluid owl]

2 more levels till I can finally put on the club maestro trophy

[runic girder]

My bravery is at 4690%

Justice is lower though, only 1518

[bleak gazelle]

only 518 justice

[fluid owl]

imma grind xp on my mman

[runic girder]

Did you buy the bundle thay gives 1.5x villager xp?

[bleak gazelle]

of course

[honest heart]

Up until like a month ago I didn't even touch gaming bits gains

[runic girder]

Alright so your 10m would be 3.3m for me, starting to make sense

[honest heart]

Didn't really need them until started grinding for final gaming upgrade

[runic girder]

Yeh no i can live with being half of the xp, not that suprised by that

[bleak gazelle]

what's your bell at?

scoli's telling me i should reset again so i might end up with more from that

[runic girder]

My bell hates villager xp

[bleak gazelle]

i think that's actually preferred

[runic girder]

Other ones are 158, 140, 119, villager xp is 89

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like you should reset too

[runic girder]

Which is 44.5% xp

[bleak gazelle]

162, 157, 142, and 114 here

[runic girder]

So bell just hates xp

[hushed galleon]

Are boat upgrades endless? Is there a ratio to maintain?

[bleak gazelle]

endless afaik. every 7th and 8th upgrade for speed/loot give more benefit. You can use IE/IT to see where you're at with them. Here's IE's display

[hushed galleon]

Thank you, but how do I know if I'm wasting my time collecting a specific resource?

[runic girder]

Off topic but what do you do with your red divinity pearls? I get them all the time but with all my talents being 50+ theyre literally useless

And im 99.99% sure they wont work on w7 skills anyways

[bleak gazelle]

last thing to use them on was cooking. otherwise greenstack one day

[runic girder]

Gl on that 😂

[hushed galleon]

I know IE tells you that your speed is not high enough to effectively reach an island but when is it good enough to go farm a different island.

[runic girder]

But hoarding it is

[bleak gazelle]

generally if your boat speed is within 2-4 hours of the island is fine if you're checking frequently. if you're a once/twice a day check then you could go up to 6-8 hours

[wintry grove]

Should I try to get more zows on my bb?

if they're at a high enough kph

[bleak gazelle]

island resources are never really a waste though, since you can always just trade them for gold bars which turn into damage via the artifact

and a tome entry, too

[hushed galleon]

Thank you @bleak gazelle

[wintry grove]

Alright

I'll leave my bb afk on rats (closest to next zow in w1)

actually, let me see if there's a closer option

[fluid owl]

oof I need to fix up these 3

[bleak gazelle]

actually, you might want to wait until you've got Nobi unlocked

since that'll stack with lab bonus for 4x kills

[fluid owl]

at least I can get better mining samples

[wintry grove]

Ooh

is that from sailing or divinity

[bleak gazelle]

div

3rd god

[wintry grove]

Oh

[fluid owl]

i'm putting mman on divinity for now until I can get arctis or nobisect and then get skilling levels up

[faint wigeon]

my vman gonna need days or even weeks to even catch up to one of my DK

[hybrid girder]

Without doot whats the max links you can have for gods?

[fluid owl]

pretty sure only 1 (on es, 2)

bro doot would be OP rn now that I know how it works

[hybrid girder]

i know i can link to 2 with the hole do i get a 3rd with sorc?

[grim talon]

3/4, 1 (+1 if ES), then 2 from Pocket Divinity

[fluid owl]

wait what cavern is pocket div

[grim talon]

it's from the conjuror villager, not a cavern

[fluid owl]

ohh

i just unlocked the engineer

[bleak gazelle]

C5 to find the conjuror villager

[fluid owl]

i'm close ig

i'm at cavern 3

[mystic stirrup]

How to unlock the green colored one

[wicked estuary]

just get more of the white ones the greens one will come after them

[mystic stirrup]

How many white ones

[wicked estuary]

lemme check rq

[bleak gazelle]

1QQ* = 1000Q

[wicked estuary]

^^^

[fluid owl]

i want rift slug or doot (or dedotated ram) because those are op

[severe cloak]

This took a while but im cooked everything going cost nullo salts tab 5 rip

Magma gear... oh boy i cant wait

[bleak gazelle]

nah, keep troll until you can get kruk

[severe cloak]

Dang did the meta change

i remember magma gear was on toppp

Troll gear is so expensive this is wild

[bleak gazelle]

probably ever since kruk came out

[severe cloak]

i need magma for kruk

[icy pulsar]

then you’ll hate kruk gear

[severe cloak]

im assuming all tab 5 is w5 drops

you know whats crazy

lmao ive legit been saving these

[faint wigeon]

crazy? I was crazy once

[bleak gazelle]

you can use them

[severe cloak]

i got scared

i thought id lose it if i wasnt unlocked

[bleak gazelle]

kruk is also easier than both troll and magma

[wintry grove]

Got snelbie to 2*, should I get it to 3 stars to setup crystal farming easier?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, I would do all your card DR cards to 4* then DR cards and pops

[severe cloak]

kruk is a joke what was lava thinking

should be easy farm what i need

[lapis mesa]

so, what covers min damage on monument? i know the measure increases max

[wintry grove]

Oh, AR seems to calculate your best crystal monster chance automatically?

[bleak gazelle]

min damage is just hours i belive

[faint wigeon]

by having more hours

[lapis mesa]

oh, gotcha. thank you

explains why it was going up and i could figure out what i was actively doing 😄

[wintry grove]

Since by toolbox, it's 1 in 425 but in AR, the best I can reach is 1 in 361.69

does AR actually calculate the best crystal monster odds you can reach?

[faint wigeon]

I think it was the highest you had once no?

[faint wigeon]

or yeah probably that

[wintry grove]

I'm kinda close to being able to crystal farm?

[fluid owl]

cupcake u're at w5 now?

[wintry grove]

Yes, I am

[fluid owl]

nice nicee

[faint wigeon]

I'd start once its around 1/100 or less

[wintry grove]

Alright, I can still improve the odds with the crystal spawn chance cards

as they aren't 4* yet

[strange tartan]

done

[faint wigeon]

dont forget about the po box and upgrading the stamps when you can

[wintry grove]

Oh, which po box?

[wintry grove]

Oh

I have 0 on that box atm in terms of DK

[faint wigeon]

dr + crystal spawn chance = 🤑

[wintry grove]

Idk if it's potentially worth 250 gems to focus all my boxes to it

[faint wigeon]

at first you'd want to max it with your DK and ES, then when you'll be able to cc farm max on bubo

[faint wigeon]

nah don't waste gems

[wintry grove]

Alright, it's because I used most of the boxes to their skilling

but any future boxes do it to that?

[faint wigeon]

do what?

[wintry grove]

like use the boxes onto that

[faint wigeon]

oh put point in it yes

also always try to do all your daily order if not already

[wintry grove]

I recently got +5 from a 50 streak

[faint wigeon]

if you have some pen you could use them on the first and third order to farm some point

[faint wigeon]

+10 at 100

[wintry grove]

Only had 1 pen to use

so I did it on the 1st one

[faint wigeon]

well you'll get your points by doing daily orders, then pen when crystal farming

[wintry grove]

true, any pens I do get can be very helpful on pre-setup

Quickly did the 2nd order as well for +1 boxes

Would inventory space be a good idea with gems or is there better options?

[faint wigeon]

I wouldn't

well unless you need more space to craft more things, if you already got the last pouch you could and all the bag you could farm/craft/buy

[lyric glen]

Why not make/use Magma gear?

[bleak gazelle]

it offers nothing but all stat% (and smol damage), it has very minor use for sampling if you can't make marbiglass, but honestly, with how many new bonuses we're getting i wonder if marbi is even worth it

[lyric glen]

If that's the case.. How do you get around not getting one shot by Tremor Wurms..? Just stick to Troll and get defenses from elsewhere?

Additionally, is it that you'd only craft Magma when you're ready to upgrade to Kruk gear?

[wintry grove]

I have 58 inventory slots on my ES at the moment, is that enough as long as I get carry capacity?

[faint wigeon]

Yeah seems alright imo

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle do I need to make new gear for my alts?

[wintry grove]

There's a few ways I can gain more inventory space - Gem shop, Crafting, Shops (idk where)

[bleak gazelle]

red pot, take off MK/beefy prayers, boost fmj and tab 1 hp/def talent?

you shouldn't be relying on gear for survival since like w3

[bleak gazelle]

full kruk is fine for now. if you ever get around to making godshard, then helmet and boots are better

[wintry grove]

Since I eventually need 1m on dn for world 1-3 monsters, does it matter what order I do the 4* cards for card drop chance?

[bleak gazelle]

not really, most people start at gigafrog ssince they need to farm pops anyway

but both that and snelbie have the same 4* requirements

sir stache is more

[wintry grove]

Okay, so those 2 don't matter what order I do them?

but for sir stache, have the 1st 2 at 4* 1st to help?

[ocean basin]

on average how many kruk keys to get the obol or necklace?

[exotic saffron]

Hey guys, did Lava nerfed the monument afk bonus from justice monument? Because this is my bonus without and with the multi... Because if this is correct, I'm missing around 70%/80% monument afk bonus

[bleak gazelle]

at least 3*

I think people said lamp wishes got nerfed a bit, so it's possible afk did, too, since he fixed multi

[exotic saffron]

Damn... Oh well... Better than nothing I guess.

[wintry grove]

Overall, you think I'm doing well not neglecting things?

[bleak gazelle]

You gotta stop worrying about playing the game and just play

[wintry grove]

Alright, sorry

[obsidian hill]

Guys what's the big sources of lamp wishes per day for hole mine won't go above 3.7~

[bleak gazelle]

There are very few things that you can actually mess up here and even less to get locked out of

[obsidian hill]

I feel as if I'm missing some important lamp upgrade

[bleak gazelle]

One of the measurer bonuses is your first big increase

[wintry grove]

I see, so the game's very forgiving at not softlocking?

or am I reading that wrong

[obsidian hill]

Iv got the measurement bonus to 153%

And all the cosmo bonuses for wishing

[bleak gazelle]

measure could be higher. have any justice levels?

[exotic saffron]

Oh I just figured it out ... He implemented the multi... Incorrectly ... Instead of giving the 3,22 (in my case), it's only giving 2,22... The same check out with all the other bonuses...

[bleak gazelle]

nice

lava maths at its finest

[exotic saffron]

Indeed

[round drift]

Is last bucket engineer schematic and multikill per tier taker of measurements the last upgrades u can get?

Time to put everything into monument

[modern fog]

Finally made it to W5. What's the trick to getting everyone out of the lab?

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome in check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
And check out #1303761365273415700

[lofty field]

do i proceed to w6 if already reach 30m+ dmg?

to open the farm

[wintry grove]

I only have 9m damage at most (es) at the moment, Probably isn't enough yet to start pushing?

[bleak gazelle]

should be fine to start

[lofty field]

you can tho

im close to 30

4m dmg more and 3 stage away

[gilded sedge]

I love the no access channel

[bleak gazelle]

I believe in you to figure it out

[lofty field]

[gilded sedge]

No I'm good

[bleak gazelle]

#👀read-me 📔 reaction

[lofty field]

sheesh i just need snelbies necklace and ill get the yumyum trophy

[fallow aurora]

I reacted to everything in there

[gilded sedge]

That has to be new

[fallow aurora]

It's not

[bleak gazelle]

id:browse and find the wiki channel

[modern fog]

okay so if i read this right, to pull everyone out of the lab, i either need to get doot (through pure luck and maybe on a timer if new companions totally replace the current system) or always have arctis equipped?

[wide belfry]

Basically yeh

[bleak gazelle]

Once you progress further into the Hole you'll get some bonuses to help support your always-Arctis link

[broken nexus]

can i beat w5 boss with these stats

i think he has like 100b hp

kattlekruk yeah

[lofty field]

you need 35 yellow dmg

[simple wadi]

Check the pinned messages for a guide on Kruk

[broken nexus]

oh ty

[bitter echo]

so does mining payday only count ores mined since unlocking it?

[lofty field]

yess

[fluid owl]

i wish lava would change that but there wasn't really a count to keep track of earlier so you can't really blame him

[mystic cipher]

Is statue of bravery partly a joke?

[lofty field]

why when i click dmg shrine always force close?

i put it on w5 town tho

[bleak gazelle]

patch has introduced a number of bugs

[lofty field]

[bleak gazelle]

recommend you upvote any that you see in #bug-reports-🐛

[lofty field]

okay later

[bleak gazelle]

Here's one specifically about shrines in w5 town causing crashes
#bug-reports-🐛 message

[bleak gazelle]

sure, i guess? there's some meme text to it

[mystic cipher]

I am only talking about the afk times

[bleak gazelle]

it is exactly what it says it is
leave one character afk there in bravery monument cavern for at least 1 full hour

[mystic cipher]

Well yeah I get that. I'm wondering if having more that one charater afk thre will help with the afk times

[bleak gazelle]

yes

[mystic cipher]

Does anything else help

[bleak gazelle]

You'll be able to get Monument AFK% from Bravery itself, a later omnument, and W6 Endless Summoning

But that's all later down the road. Feel free to check out #1303761365273415700 for more info

[mystic cipher]

I mean I already hit world 6 don't really get how most of world 6 is supposed to work

[bleak gazelle]

#1208108939313684621
Also #endgame-chat-w7🐟 if you don't have it on your channel list

[wintry grove]

Does the crystal shrine when levelling it up boost crystal spawn chance?

[bleak gazelle]

The Crescent Shrine does

Crystal Shrine boosts the xp rate of shrines

[wintry grove]

Oh

Oh, that's the next shrine I can start building

If I want to be able to crystal farm soon, I should try to get the shrine?

Alright, my build rate is under 20k / hour right now

[bleak gazelle]

are you setup with construction xp cogs and your DKs on the board?

did you make that second DK yet?

[turbid plaza]

The quest says “equip the divine scarf” but mine is equipped and it’s not counting

Is this a bug?

[wintry grove]

Yes and Yes, I do have both DKs on the board, 1 is just much lower level

[faint wigeon]

so long as their construction talents are baxed and booked you're fine

[turbid plaza]

Congrats on going from early w3 to late w4 in one day

[faint wigeon]

he was early w4 I think

[wintry grove]

yeah, it was early w4 to late w4

[severe cloak]

What makes DK lvl up fast in construction?

i need lvl 300

[turbid plaza]

Maybe I’m thinking of someone else then

[faint wigeon]

he has a talent that increase construction exp
then another to boost build rate based on red salts (pow 10?)

[wintry grove]

I got the birthday hat recipe?! Wow

[faint wigeon]

then again just some two bubble that boost construction exp and build rate based on construction level

[severe cloak]

I guess active DK best way to level? no idea how i got lvl 200

[faint wigeon]

active with crystal ye

[severe cloak]

Thanks

[faint wigeon]

well I guess DK is already better in active

[severe cloak]

Yeah very true

[faint wigeon]

so might as well farm with crystal to have them rare drops and xp

[bleak gazelle]

oh wait

[turbid plaza]

Do I need to have the character with the quest craft the divine scarf while the quest is active?

[bleak gazelle]

since you haven't gotten cape, just forfeit and try again