#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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omg thank you. Its been so long since ive done gold
any reason why my prints are yellow star now from purple swirl ? Didnt change anything from yesterday
visual bug with the printer
if i pass 100%, so he can give me more than 2/day?
I'm getting about 100 power statues per hour. Is the biggest bottleneck just crystal chance?
I have 15.1 DR
what is yours currently
crystal chance or orb level probably
can't forget choco chip 
dung party its relevant in this game ?
I donโtโฆ really get the new death bringer class.
It ignores all gear makes you level up from nothing. You MUST actively level.
It heโs cooking and farming a littleโฆ
But whatโs the end game? What am I missing? The wraith mode becomes more powerful than non-wraith classes?
Whatโs the advantage?
in other words... there's new content since wz6 realease ?
new tier of hat otherwise no
There are account-wide bonuses in the Grimoire which require bones to level
Do you keep Skilled dimwit/royal sampler on for maestro skilling i cant remember
dimwit you can remove if you can stay above 100% with transfusion or even use the other skill xp prayer
no point in removing sampler until you don't need it
How'd you progress your pets so well? I feel like I've hit a wall with them.
So this is why you wanna try as much as possible to keep claiming on full hours?
When do u actually use transfusion I always get higher exp without it (in a different ore though)
printer time becomes so irrelevant, especially with Omni. The only reason you really want to claim full hours is if you're in monument (without monument afk gains and even then 1+ hour required)/early div
Use it whenever you can stay above 95-98% skill efficiency with it on
splicing, though even with that im a long way off converter
Oh got it thx, apart from that what's the main gaming multi source and the one I should focus on
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Like this? And if so, what exactly does it do? Gives more power to your pets?
requires less spliced genes to level them up, makes it easier to breed
higher chance of next pet unlock, if you meant how i get the power then its just a matter of upping what breeding xp you can get, and the beastmaster talent for pet power, aswell as meals for pet power
As your level affects the upper limits of pet power you can reach, and im like 43 breeding
i love the fish and owl game
so uhhh... first time buying this book, i guess the odds of a max 100 is 100% 
Guys do we have a team comp for this ?
#1277368276095336558 has one
Um Its in one of them?
probably w4 since that's the pet/tome world 
ah, is that one for equinox, oops
Is there anyway to take away opals in the hole
Once you get to the lamp you can spend wishes to respec your opals
Where is that
Explorer, second row, second discovery. So explorer level 7.
Read the pinned messages in this channel for more information on the hole.
Any reason why my first captain is stuck at 4% speed
its not that its stuck at 4% boat speed. it means that its base stat (at level 1) was 1% speed. correspondingly - your 2nd's base is 5% and your 3rd's base is 4%. a captain's stat is simply base times level
Once I max out and get all the sovereign artifacts in sailing, I just stockpile gold and that's it, right? Is there anything else to "do" so to speak?
all your boats to 300 
Lvl up boats i think? But apart from that yeah just hoard gold
y tho?
Don't you jsut need the 1 boat for the achievement?
for the aesthetics
and in case he ever releases new islands/artifacts
i just split them to each island,, haven't checked in some time
but also more skill levels = more benefit
Lmao
trying to get all my boats to 300 for the aesthetics 
Get autoloot
I don't have money
Where the hell do you get food from then? Just go hungry for a meal
my parents
Oh
My guy @prime wasp forgot children exist
I was about to say that
kek
Suggmas on my phone drop bone 3 not bone 1. This a bug?
I don't know
what god rank should i grind to? should i just stop after lab 2100
im like 245 levels away
it's probably gna take like 2 more days
most likely, since i assume you have plent of other things to work on
is the talent level increase from god rank good
and divinity level
that's why i did lab first instead of more bravery hours for multi (which im not sure if it works)
don't think there's any talent increase specifically from god ranks, div level yes, but that can be passive from TranQi
im also gna do equinox symbols over faux jewels now
oh i thought it increased blessing bonuses
maybe talent level is not part of that
talent level is a minor link bonus, which is affected by div level
oh
is it affected by big p bubble?
should i get that to like lvl 1000 then
its at 300 now i think
just atom it for one more week
auto review has some early break points depending on your div level, i think
but yes, throwing some atoms at it is probably a good idea
ok i apparently need around 381 for +14
is 15 max?
and do decimals matter? i think there are decimals in family bonus for es
something like this
oh my div level is 91-95
AR has more space for breakpoints, that's from Trickz' talent/book sheet which is more geared for higher play so it won't have lower levels on it
not near kattlekruk yet (in the last map before the door tho) but what kind of damage numbers would i need?
thanks @bleak gazelle lmao
is there a setup for spices once we unlock bunnie and borger?
Not a bug, no. Mobile is behind on versions. They will be adjusted during the next new patch
yo, just got to world 5 do i throw EVERYONE into div jail for now?
more or less, at lesat for the first god and ideally the first two
Welcome in
check out the 3rd ๐ for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
And check out #1303761365273415700
and how does sailing work, grumblo told me to put my captain in the boat but how do i actually go about doing it lmao
im excited for the hole
nvm figured out the boatr
is there a way to get to the hole besides tping?
i mean i see the path but why would it be unlocked
Once you unlock that third map you can take a portal there
But TP is usually the way
so take everyone and transport to divinity
sorry for the mass questions but when does slab start doing something?
You're good, that's what we're here for 
Alchemy, sailing artifacts, I think W6 Jade Emporium will all give slab bonuses. some will require a certain amount of items found before giving a bonus
Those first 4 are all sailing artifacts
oh gotcha so i just dont have enough items for the bonuses yet
i only got 625
w5 bubbles for skilling power and base stats
gotcha, not that far in alchemy lol
your first one should be this saling artifact 
so im assuming this is spread as a global currency?
oh thats pretty good, ill only have like 12 percent but still
im also assuming something is multiplying that? because that doesnt add up
I've got the final form (there are 4)
which also doesn't add up, but 
it is an idle game after all 
w5 seems like a lot of content though
excited. Also, should i hold off on pushing until i get a few divinities due to no killer brightside
that's usually the play, along with your other lab bonuses like NBLB and double prints 
the faster you can get those back the better
alright thank you appreciate it
maoi head is a pretty good artifact i dont have to worry about where my shrines are anymore
yes and no. you'll still usually want to place them in town so you can grant them exp from that whole world
https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37
why it aint giving me any bonuses?
reload map/cloud save
DAMN 300% COINS IS HUGE
is it only 1 opal per layer everytime?
would it be worth it to start crystal farming with 8x dr?
if you have choco and 1% (1/100) crystal spawn chance you could start farming dice obols 
Is resetting conjurer invested points bugged?
(The lamp: Another try)
should i hard invest opals to the first guy for a while to start getting more caverns up?
Not that I've noticed? THink I last reset around DB patch
My brother got it figured out.
Thanks though.
since i dont want to push right now should i be working towards more opals or materials for void gear/ new gear
Opals for now as that will help you unlock more caverns for more overall bonuses
alright
when do you think the first divinity multi will roll around?
for points it'll most likely be your first two god blessings, then artifacts
also do i explore clouds to find more captains for my ships?
Captains will come from the shop at the end of the dock and restocks daily
More sailing levels unlock more slots and higher quality captains
oh
cattleprods dream come true
Yeah, in the Mr. Brightside map there is a portal in the middle of the map, but teleport is free, so might as well teleport IMO
Could someone help answer a quick question? For AFKing at the monuments for respect, does it only count full hours, or does it keep track of minutes too? Like if I do 12.5 hours, and then do 12.5 hours, would that be 24 hours or 25 hours at the end of the second session?
full hours 
once you get some monument afk gain% then your "hours" become shorter, with a minimum of 1 hour still required to claim
OK just to clarify though, 1 hour is required to claim, but 1.5 would still be 1 is what you are saying? 1 hr 59 min is 1 hour then as well? OK, that's annoying but good to know I guess.
Correct, at least until you get some afk% from w6 endless summoning or from bravery/justice
also bravery?
when you get afk%, what changes? It still does single hours added, the hours just get shorter? So if you had 25% AFK, then 0.8 hrs would be 1 hour, so if you did 0.9 hrs, you get 1 also, because it doesn't change the fact that it is an integer counter, and not a real number counter?
essentially, yes
ok, that's a shame and annoying to keep track of, but good to know
though it's still slightly wonky, since you still have to claim at least 1 hour minimum, even if your "hour" isn't an hour anymore
Spaghetti code be spaghetti-ing.
Here's a calc you can use
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15OYQttoq4o5nnBCbGbQAjRnMorOJskNd34MZwEm16HQ/edit?usp=sharing
So you'll see with my ~150%, i gain an hour in about 24 minutes but my minimum claim time is always 1 hour, but you'll see my 3rd hour is gained at 1:12 instead of 1:24, since 3 hours would be gained at 72 minutes
@strong rose You got to w5?
YURR
and now this is my life ๐
Grats man, enjoy new grinds
btw if you afk motherlode, make sure you pick up the ore when you claim
also about divinity should i wait everytime for the 25% chances or risk the cheaper ones
i usually went left side until i got a 100% on the right and saved for that
think i got at least one god on a 1% roll
I got 1st god at 5% click
did the right side go up with buying the left side? or did you go left then right when left started costing more?
I kinda ignored hole until i was almost at w6
At least now im in bravery jail 
each time you purchase either side, both sides will reroll. left can be 1/5/10, right can be 25/50/100. you can reroll into the same value
I should probably respec and go full divinity
Huh, actually maybe it's not totally random, from the wiki
When you use your Divinity Points to attempt a summon and fail, either category has a chance to upgrade to a higher tier within it's category, or lower down if not the lowest.
I got goat 100% option and then accidentally pressed 5% and it rerolled 
You have 2nd talent tab for that
well ones my fighting
how does this work i understand it unlocks a second string for a god but what are the other things for
yeah my other one is a fighting tab preset
If you have doot ignore if you dont put 1 point in
Are these minutes the new milestones to get a full 1 hour gain?
Like when we first got into hole, we needed to afk for 1 full hour, does it change?
Did you read any of the text I had with that picture? 
Nope, I can't read text, images only
Alr thx 
promotheus's dream come true (maybe?)
it followed me
Press town respawn here
You will die always when you do dogs, but town respawn respawns you in the hole
so its just based on kills though?
If you're asking how to not die get more damage and defense and hp
where was the thing where u abilities still went off when u died?
dog, you kill them to get score, if they're alive for too long they will increase the fear bar, if fear bar max you die
you can get score mult by adding/using amplifier that you unlock from engineer's schematics from time to time
Sup Dadoums 
Hi guys, quick question. Why isnt the divinity sacrifice not changing percentages? The next divinity is the goat one and I tried using the 1% option like 5 times and the other sacrifice doesnt change, it remains at 25% only
hiyo Nothing to Display 
just gotta do more low offering, its just there's a chance it change the offering or not
anybody with instant gaming got any idea why it wouldn't be functional even though the sheet says I have it?
it says the prio is outdated and should be redone
tbf what any guide that isn't outdated would be strange
unless i'm misunderstanding this
not really outdated but some prio might change
but generally double exp is best
the first few points seems alright to me (tho me too poor to buy any)
my gaming mutations say sprouts can evolve up to 5x (currently lvl112, 17.7% chance), but my logbook is pretty much hard stuck like this; should i just leave stuff to grow with kitsune on?
Finding evolutions, and most of Gaming really, is about getting the Chemical type mutation unlocked
You still need to find the Evergreen and Chemical before any worry about log book
in short just click plants
Ok, so just grind DNA and pull the research lever regularly i assume?
ye

Is gaming a heavy time gated skill for now but another global skill?
somewhat, but you upgrade faster growth and get other upgrades that speed it up a good amount; just make sure you check all of the boxes on the imports tab when you get there; i missed 3 upgrades for a week or more because i was checking them in order 
Not sure what that fully means but I'm sure I'll understand it once I get to the next tab
what are the sources of artifact find chance?
i'm trying to sovereign my fury but i only have 49x
Search every bonus in Idleon!
tyty
Is it worth taking the cooking speed upgrade from bravery when you don't have nmlb and have just started levelling up the dishes?
No Meal Left Behind is the only way you're going to get the peak end levels of meals. Cooking Speed helps get you to that point in the meantime
Yea bro right now I'm suffering to unlock new recipes as well as buy chips cuz the production is just so slow. I figured getting some levels In this would help but it has a hard cap and I don't know if we can reset this later like some other upgrades
You cannot reset it later, but you don't need to. Grab maybe 100 to 150x at least, then you can reevaluate.
hello anyone can tell me if i get hours of bravery when in the hole even if i for example mining the rock?
no you gotta afk there and collect 1h+
Is the lawyer thing in the hole? I know it's a vague description but I think it's called justice? It's something I've been excited about
yeah well don't think about it because its last cavern that you can unlock (so explorer 10 and you'd need like 39M exp in total for that)
just do your things slowly on hole don't press it
if you really like to read there's that https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700
@whole slate
When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can see the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.
Okays
For gaming. What's a good percentage to try for a new plant?
0.1%, quantity over quality
For your last two, at least. for the first few anywhere in the 20-50% rang is probably fine, the next few 10-25%?
I have the last 2 left
0.1%
Thanks
my DB grind has been trash, so I just unlocked the experience bonus. DB is now grinding samurai chieftains for levels. Have gotten about 30 over night... because I forgot my chocolate chip cookie... should be even better now.
what levels are his skills, since those also give a few talent points
pretty good, I would say
I can't be bothered to DB now, unlocked daily ribbon and called it a day
It's not like there's much benefit in me pushing further
I just want to get to meals, NMLB is going to waste!
throw him on the construction board for a day. easy 200ish levels there
true!
If you've got Land Ranks unlocked in farming, definitely try and push for that and if you need opals for Hole, too, thats close after ranks
Yeah, opals are nice but I'm far from being able to push wraith well and I have much better things to do, considering I rushed to w6. DB dropped 2 days later and I had a lvl 220 db with 50m max dmg
Still gotta get foundations up a bit tbh
minimum dmg for kattlekruk
@faint wigeon its been a whileโฆ time for u to judge how horrible my acc is :3

All your shrines are in W4 but everyone is in W6, you're not getting shrine xp
Also only 3 people on TranQi div style
Can probably work on sigils now, since you have the summoning speed. IT is missing 3 people from cauldrons, are they assigned anywhere?
I will say, I've been enjoying running dungeons on the DB. The axe passive just clears everything so nicely.
Just got to world 5, what should I focus on
Welcome in
check out the 3rd ๐ for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
And check out #1303761365273415700
if i am trying to do check guaranteed drop times for dragon staues and have 1200 kill per kill from talent, do i divide my kills by 12?
i'm trying to do w5 boss on nightmare with vman but i cant kill all the suckers before they heal him anyone got tips
can anyone explain pocket divinity to me
all ur characters get connected to a god (2 gods if u enhance it) of ur choice
so everyone expect my maestro is on div
what should i do on my maestro then?
even my es which i pushing halfway to the boss is in div
so for example can i have my chars linked to god 1 but then through pocket div have them also linked to gods 2 and 3 as well?
its lacks to much dmg atm, its on 22m my es
skilling until u have him at 1st in all w1-w3 skills minus construction and alchemy
alright ig
what abt pushing to w6?
maestro never needs to push because of his elite class
but on my es
oh
or should that stay in div to for now
bro how am i supposed to get my mestro to finish the nightmare for w5 boss ?
its lacking dmg but i could use it to lvl my stamps or something
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message follow this guide, u only need 30m damage on ES for w5 world boss
I am though? I have emporean upgrade that makes shrines placed go world wide?
all on cauldrons
no
its still doable with 22m damage
how long will i be in the bossfight?
iam not there yet
you will have 30M dmg when you get there
5-10 minutes
hmm okay
Artifact makes effect game-wide, shrine makes exp work wide if in town
https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37
actually, you are progressing as expected. I only had 8M damage (on my BB) when I reached the boss map, lol.
.
ahโฆ okay.
what's the maximum possible dr from a silver pop obol?
4%
so i just got to w5 and not to be rude but... why does the music sound so compressed compared to the previous worlds?
I can't remember, does orb of remembrance work on boss drops?
Yeah thats the main reason you want to use your DK whenever you do minibosses
Like go to oranges then go into the boss fight for better Dr? I currently have 30 Dr without it but idk if it would increase it
you can't stack it so 
idk if the 1 stack from the kill would count before the drops
orb count is wiped on map change
Oh like that, no the droprate doesnt stay if you move maps
Ahh okay ty ty
sb or vman are typically best if you're trying to farm boss drops
Regular bosses iโd go with vman
@bleak gazelle Does it work if I switch a hole bonus to nobi, then just change it back to omni before i switch to check other chars?
is this worth it?
Yeahh vman worked wonders ๐
In 3 tries
Hmmm i mean it gets you the bonuses faster
So you progress your account faster - you decide if its worth
Those 2 capes+premium hats 


When caverns 11-20 release, it'll probably help you unlock those much much faster.
2 times as fast, some would say
for resource gen, 4 would give x3
they're talking about villager xp though
Its per villager
oh
nice
Where are all of the tiers for gaming plant evolutions? I think my max plant is one short?
I'm at 63/72
3 from superbits, one from jade emp
if you're at full t7s, sounds normal. t8s are a slog
of many, many, many chems
Ahh okay I just looked at it and thought that t8 was just missing so I got all the t7's ๐
for reference, with 180 crops, I think Xayah was at 0.3 min listed speed on fert and it took her 8 hours of clicking chems for one t8
this will get much easer since we have 50 new crops now, but will still probably be quite a bit of clicking
How can I get faster at sailing
Check the wiki for a list of sailing speed bonuses
They'll be at the bottom of the sailing skill page
Thx
What do we mean with 180 crops?
I've been leveling up my farming hut not really optimizing any of it
.# of farming craps adds gaming plant speed via the jade emporium upgrade, though it doesn't show in the gaming fert speed
finally a decent nugget upgrade
I'm guessing I should work on all of this in general
Ahh okay ty @echo crag and acecow
I do have a 14.5x evo in it
are there any dungeon guides?
Hole guide
finally hit yellow damage, soon i'll be able to beat kattlekruk!
The heck

kind of depends on how early you are into hole/game, but something like this in general
opal > multi > afk > bell rate > villager exp > mining/cooking/gaming/bfr > damage/opal chance
-acecow
any recommendations on what to upgrade?
If you donโt have doot, first green then get to 3rd blue so you can enhance first green again (pocket divinity)
okay ty ๐
Hi, wanted to ask about justice:
If i take offer from limb hand to share his crime profits, can I still get Happy Bringer? Cos last time I did it, I've never seen him since the deal. ๐ค
yes, just rng
so i only got 68% on the 3rd round of snakenhotep challenges but ive no clue how this boss works, am i still able to kill it?
just the 2 doots is gonna take a while so need to know if im wasting time
you dont have time limit so you can kill it but the question is do you want to spend that much time
yeah im just curious though if that shield icon is to do with not getting 100% or due to the doot
cus as it is i cant hit the boss atm
doot
You need to do all previous task at 100
pretty sure you dont have to do all task at 100
can you ever get enough mana for vmans void radius?
since i failed one intentionaly
you can fail tasks just the total across 5 tasks needs to reach 100%
I am currently like this, i know the next step in gear is lustre and the next weapon, but i dont know what next on rings and necklace
Jmm, but it has better stats right?
chizoar scarf is what you should surely be going for here at least
Chiz scarf and tenacity ring in w5 is good
The gear youโd want in w5 is chiz helmet and chetplace ร (as they give dmg%)
it stop at diabolical
thats why you want to swap to boss gear
Dead end so people would only do it for slab
and troll would be better investemtn
I was about to say
also for troll, dont start crafting with the helmet
Yeah thatโs something to work for w6
if they really want to make some lustre, at least the boots are not as much of a waste
I should craft some troll sets for characters ngl
Soo you guys are saying this armor is the next one?
Or what is chiz
Chizoar w3 boss
But the chiozar gear I'm seeing that this armor can't be improved, it just stays there
chizo armour
not necessary to craft other than slab for 1 time ig
Yeah no chiz is also dead end but better than lustre
At least helmet and chest place should be considered as they give dmg bonus
troll armour is the way
Youโll also want the 5th upgrade that is for the scarf upgrade
hell of a cog day
Do cogs
Ive been like a week with this vial wtf i am just unlucky or what
doing them
Do more 
So I've just discovered the unevolve bug and after checking the spread check it says never again for if it should happen, but still is. What do I do? or is gaming now permanently an active skill now?
I unblocked the 9th character, is a lot 8 al ready, what should i do with one more jajja i just drop them in the lab or maybe put him to farm divinity idk
Fill inventory with that materials (1 per slots) and drop all of them fast
divinity should be good right?
Ohhh okey, so with the epic gamer moment it is like having more tries right?
If you already have goat then but him in lab for both gains
Also if you inventory is open , hold shift
What do you mean by goat
Goat god, 5th god, Goharut
Goat god let you sit in lab and give you divinity gain + lab
then divinity it is
got the chemical plant
KITTY
gz
what map for dice obols? pots?
tyson or sandy pots if you need glass shard
can never have enough glass shards id imagine, my stamp is kinda low
only level 24 on the stamp
just reminded me to look at stamp and uhhh... i may have neglected some important ones
yean that stamp is never enough level'd 
my liquid and alchemy stamps have not been levelled like ever whoops XD
im the best slacker

just realised these statues arent gonna do me any good yet whilst farming dice obols as ive not even done the 20k power requirement
any tips for the poing game in gaming? I am nowhere near 25k and loosing my mind. ๐ฆ
Here's one strat, there's another video or two floating around
#endgame-chat-w7๐ message
thanks, helped a little, but still not doable with the stutters. last time my blood was boiling from a game like this was when I played cod lol
I give up
im too dumb to understand why alchemic over flashy, like i believe the guide writers when they say alchemics better when doing long claims but my monke brain is still like "50% is 50%, flashy and alchemic do the same thing"
wait as in you hit the 50% extra spice then that one can also hit a 50% extra spice chance?
or did you mean converter
oh, wait, yeah, i meant converter. kek
was gonna say XD
cant wait til i get converter, planning ahead and i need 10k of 2nd purple spice in 12 days, which is definitely not happening
i just reached w5 what should i do
well, the note does say it may be worth to just use a single alchemic. but i don't think most people care or are even using their 100 clicks a day and probably just ignoring or using spice spillage talent for free claims
Welcome in
check out the 3rd ๐ for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
Also check out #1303761365273415700
it was more to do with this one as i was talking to a buddy about spice setups as i made him aware he needs 10k purple
Hey guys i have the whale pet in breeding what should i use for spice?
my brain just doesnt comprehend why alcehmic over bunny, given 1.5x speed thats 50% more spices compared to 50% chance of 2 spices, which statistically is also 50% more spices
under pets tab, what were talking about right now
It's probably since the second spice from alchemic is free, aka it doesn't increase the size of the bar, so over time (especially for later spices or higher stacks of earlier) the 50% chance outweighs the speed increase
finally maxed out Flouride in the atom collider, I wasn't going to bother before DeathBringer2 added 20 more meal levels... right after I finally finished cooking 
that means my Vman needs to talent into blood marrow again, darn it!
ok, game has been running awesome for a week+ and I white screen while doing the W2 daily task? WTF?
going back to up carry cap, for the promotheus see baba yaga quest does colosseum version count?
When do you start unlocking new things besides the daily clicking from gaming? Like upgradeable and pong
Is the slabโs bonuses good?
does sb want to farm bones at suggmas ?
I wish I had sampled last week with the G Food balot bonus, but even this was more than worth reseting my 11x printer bonus (asuming artifact and holiday bonus stack multiplicative and not additive)...
Jesus Christ, the neglect I've shown my samples is appalling...
219 day old sample
With this I know it seems self explanatory but do I literally just leave him hear go to a different character and come back when the afk time is 1 hour?
1 hour+ or it won't count
Once I do so is it unlocked for everybody or will I have to do the same
unlocked for everyone
Alright perfect, thanks I'll have to look into what the bonuses for bravery actually are
anyone with a P character willing to help me rq?
At what point should i go for voidwalker?
maybe after div/lab jail and everyone can help with deathnote
idk if there's a perfect time to do that its just whenever ur ready
What's the difference between crystal farming on a dk versus maestro?
elementary school vs college. not even the same thing
Is Maestro better then? Not done much on my maestro besides levelling
Ooh okay, good point
so just cleared the last w5 pet battle, this was the aftermath, Im a bit concerned w6 fights are gonna crash my game
High performance turned on?
it is now, hopefully the game survives
ive really been neglecting unlocking spices, ive just opened up 7 new areas
There's a high performance button..
I have 850 gems and I'm not sure what to buy right now, I haven't gotten a lot of things so i was looking at another sample slot, would that be a good way to go?
those are way more of a luxury than a necessity
Got crystal printer yet?
as cookie said, thats a luxury, its very low prio and i just bought them cus i hate resampling
Yes
I have three brimstone slots and the gold Anvil as well
bear in mind the extra slots literally offer no actual gain to progression, they just mean you dont have to resample as much
cards are super important, you definitely want all 8 slots
card or card presets?
presets are not as important
id be amazed if you went to w5 and never bothered unlocking all card slots
I'll buy the rest of the card slots then
Well I rarely get gems
fair enough
Main source of them were guild boxes
which card slots? like presets?
once you have easy access to kruk, you can get your 300 kills pretty easy
Does loot value affect discovering at all? Or only discovery %
But now that I've caught up on some things I can do bosses and giants
The 8 separate card slots to equip
oh yes those are a must-have
Alright good to know
Oh I only needed to buy one more, but still I have 560 gems and I feel a need to spend them on something lol
just realised unlocking all the w5 spices doesnt matter, i literally cant meet the fight requirement threshold
What about unlocking the kitchen gem upgrades?
use the poop pets
the first couple are really good to have but card slot and thta is a toss up which is better
probably at least the first kitchen
Alright I'll buy it
ah neat, completely forgot about that foraging effect, i lose one whale in the set below, but at least i can gather now, thanks
ok given its a 1.2m threshold for 1 zpice and my gather rate is about 4.5m, im definitely not getting 10k spices in the like 19 days i have XD
Btw sprinkler for what?
If you are desperate, you can active on your hunter, the whale upgrade from vman affects spices
Is it for gaming bits?
early golden sprinkler gets you access before you unlock it regularly
yeah ive been doing that for the frosty spice for 5k for the current gem, but i dont think itll be enough for the purple one in time
as the amount of foraging you need for 10k of those purples as opposed to 5k frostys is huge, and im already struggling on that one
what is your breeding level?
43
4.5M isn't that bad for that spice, I think I have like 5.6M on that one at level 80 breeding
I can't believe my catching samples are actually in the billions at last. I might actually be entering the mid game, finally!
what kind of pet power do you get at 80 breeding
my highest in 203k
ah then if you were same kinda comp as me then youd be way way higher than my measly 4.5, but it sounds too low to be 4 alchemics
I haven't actually tried to get my spice gathering up in a long time
mostly I've been using all my eggs for either dead dna or pushing fastest to level 100 in arena
im mostly just gonna try to get 1 of each of them so i can actually get new meals unlocked but id really like to get to 10k of those purples for future gem
frick i forgot to do baba again, i want that inventory bag on my DK
I rolled for most of my jewels in the gem shop
Does gaming shovel nugget increase with duration?
as in number of nuggets? Yes, with heavy diminishing returns
no as in size
no, that is rng or increases with number of attempts if you have Metal Detector from equinox
where can I complain about the rng /s
Does snake blessing effect divinity gain?
I'm officially whale status
nice l guess
Not tusk but still useful 
I'm doing tusk then tablet.. idk what to get either tbh
crystal stake for damage and the thing that rase max book lvl
Still far away but yeah
There's a few good ones
Frost isn't bad either I think
the candy land one is also good
div till u get goat then put every one in lab
Then the nblb gonna be off for now?
You can tie him in the second before daily reset
but articus is everyone in lab but no exp?
Yeah, arctis is remote connection to lab
then isnt nblb prob on?
Well then you don't care about uploading to lab then. Keep up the divinity grind until you get goat. Then lab div grind
is it a good idea to rush to hole first?
1278 div per hour, hope goat doesn't take as long as hare, don't want to be stuck on 1 div for another 3 weeks
what stye u on?
The 2nd
my spelling is atrocious
ic
hi guys, do i have to be in lab for the goharut divinity link? (Being connected to the Lab also counts as being present at the Divinity Altar, so you get gains for both!)
or can it be used with Arctis? (This character is always active within the Lab Mainframe. However, they will not gain any Lab EXP!)
i need some divinity levels...
Goat god benefit means that when you in lab, you get divinity gains too (as if you are in an altar)
Bear god if you are uploaded to the mainframe, but you gain no lab gains.
So if you want to be cheeky with ES talent, pocket Div, or doot.... NO. They do give you permanent lab/divinity gains when combined.
great first hit seeing as i already run swt
acc that is good i can leave them in w4 for lab jail and push in w5
citringes only gives me 3.8k kph
i think im gonna stop pushing w5 and get troll armor and anvil tab 4 before continuing
oh it's because i don't have the dk accuracy boost
How do I reset the damage rune of the hound in the hole
hold down
Thx
Is there a power spike in early w5 should I be rushing to finish 4
What's the chance of kruk dropping a kruk key? It doesns't say on the wiki
isn't that a w1 merit thing
Is statue farming worth without choco chip
Ive gotten kruk keys from kruk, so I want to calculate the average kruk keys from kruk to see my expected kruk kills
kruk kruk kruk
you eventually have to do it anyway for onyx, it'll just take longer as you're missing out on b2b crystal spawns
I have like 2% spawn chance and 15 DR
I just missed the last shop bc I didn't have the mats
my cooking should be good for it next time it pops up
guys is it 30m min or max dmg for kruk 1st kill?
just pretend that min damage doesn't exist
you should rush to finish 4 to unlock the w5 skills
cause they're all timegated in some way
Worth? Yes. It's just gonna take longer.
what dam do i need to kill kruck
just a tiny bit of dmg
@lofty field 100% or nothing
How do I get Molten Core Knucklers blueprint to drop bc Iโm in middle of w6 and still wonโt drop form the mod in world 5
get more DR 
30x is decently easy to get nowadays, especially if youve bought any bundles
otherwise, just throw everyone onto it or come back later
!gear probably swap everything over to a DK
Also more important than gear
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
Especially with those wings and robes, your damage is quite low
i got all 10 the mega feathers en mega fish stamps are on point most of my lvls are too low to get the max of it, i post daily to keep my streak up. once w4 i didnt pay much attention to the skills
lab en cooking and breeding, no clue what im doing and the w5 skills are new from yesterday
but seem pointless so far
Hey guys, I think I'm missing something. Just bought the upgrade in the hole " Improvement Stackin' " which says "For every 24 LVs across all Improvement Methods upgrades at the Bell, all your Improvement Method bonuses are 1.10 higher!" and I get a total of 1.5x bonus. But at the Bell I now have a bonus of 1.46K% on Bell Ring/hr, which doesn't make much sense if it was only 122% before. This is not a 1.5x bonus but a 15x bonus. Anyone can explain to me where the multiplication factor of 10 is coming from?
Whole lot of stuff in the ๐ for starting W5, including this. Every aspect of the game is important in some manner and you can gain damage from a lot of areas. At the moment, if you want to stick with BB, you'll need about 10x your current damage
https://imgur.com/a/uJx6afe
*For every 25 LVs across...
Yoo. Corndag's gaming calc says I should have unlocked instant gaming but I think I'm doing it wrong... new plants aren't popping up instantly once I clear others. Not sure if my expectations are just wrong
Are you in W5 town?
Add a % sign to your Purrmep box in the top left
to push w5 on dk should i use the prayer that gives + accuracy but - damage if i dont have enough accuracy
if it pushes you to 1.5x accuracy it's probably worth it
28 hours
ye thats what i need
If iam right
yes it should be ok
however the fight is gonna take a bit long
25m for boss is doable, a bit easier/shorter if you can get a bit more damage, but you do you 
How long?
Iam not sure what I should do for dmg now, everything is expensive
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
But can i still just auto it?
around a few minutes, it's much like amarok but with 100 billion health (iirc) and infinite heal totem
think so, but outdamaging the healing from moles is gonna take longer the less your damage is
Also once you get there
https://i.imgur.com/XuiAidw.png
or you can just go back and forth between moles and kruk
Alright
Where should I get another 5 mil dmg?
Which source us the fastest
have you booked any of your talents? 
got an IE/IT?
Yes
book lightning and meteor and drop some points in portal, you probably aren't making use of it and it's most likely slowing down active pushing slightly
Ok
From the es tab right?
To how low?
i would just candy the hell out of those last two portals
if you can get ~30 levels in both, just max those two then throw the rest in portal, should be fine
My candy
Sucls not having any of the low tier candy left
Ye
I used them yesterday
I think this is the second portal before the boss fight?
28hours
But a 24 hr on each portal, and some light questing to find some other smalls to fill in the gaps
about what i did
Or active to fill in the gap would work too
So my dmg is good enough?
I really don't want to get to the boss and not be able to do it
Also his ES's double link talent is at 10 is that correct? Cant check rn
Yes
These are the talents, have changed anything yet@warm holly
Is there a way to use any candy in world 5 and 6 ?
You can in 5 not in 6
Nah more in the sense of "is 10 shehebenatu or is 11", but I assume you're linked to nobisect as well in some form?
Ye
That links me to nobi
If iam correct
How in W5 i can't use them is it achivement or something from gaming ?
Iam not sure?
!gear
i got to wave 20 of frosty firefight but why does the totem only say wave 13?
I'm gonna check some YouTube but thx for help
yeah polytheism (the talent) level 10 (or 0) connects you to shehebenatu as your second god. For an extra small easy damage boost for the boss you can change that to arctis (level 1, extra points in that talent are wasted because it is your combat spec) when you get there (arctis's minor blessing bonus gives +X to all talents while linked). This of course assumes that you're already linked to Nobisect through your standard link or Hole bonus
Hole has arctis and harriep
And poly has nobisect
Does anyone know the formula for decay for the bravery/justice bonusses where decay applies?
What is the sanctuary in summoning?
Anyone knows how many talent points i need into Raise Dead for my bubo to revive all wurms end of w5?
idk just max it
goat and tranqui
What is tranqui?
lv 40 style, u get 3 div exp/h even if u are not in the altar (passive div levels)
depends on how many div things u bought from gem shop, talent levels from ES, vials, bubbles...
I'd say it's gonna take 1 month more or less to reach lv 40
What vials that increase divinity?
maple log, the tree outside hole
Also bubble i think i cant afford it since im still at w3 bubble
Maybe only div lv 1 gems shop
And es i can afford
it also costs island 7 material to level it up, so it's a bit hard to have it
Ahh
Yeah gonna take long then
Just gonna print some stuff and bubble gonna be set behind
Until i got the arctis
So 24/7 divinity eh

I was checking idleon insght, there aren't much sources of div exp early, there's the vial and post office at maximum
Yeah im just gonna giveup on up other than gems shop
Also bits definiely help on divinity gain right?
Or exp
unless for some reason u are hyper progressed in breeding and u can unlock div exp plates (they require W4 spice and W5 the other one)
Im still at diamond on spice
the blessing from gods? I'm not sure but I think those increase only div points gained, not EXP
Ohh thats ok tho
I just need divinity to open my refinery boost
one thing that often is not considered is that mages can get more exp in div due to inner peace talent since div is considered a mage-specialized skill
and by mages I mean both bubo and ES
Yeah
their lvl divinity are higher
Is there any guides for tower defense in world 5
is the math to calculate how long a portal opens right?
77(k) is the portal and 6(k) is the kph
yeah it would take about 13 hrs
Maybe your damage increased? did u change gear or cards?
is this colo task? like the w2 one?
thanks!
no
could i do the w5 boss with 25m dmg?
on es
yep
as long as moles don't outheal you you're fine, but more damage = less time (obviously)
did you kill kruk
not yet
iam not sure if i can actually kill it with 25m
you can
should i use a 24h candy and find out?
I killed it with ES on similar damage
with 26m dmg on es
yeah man 24h candies are easy to get
1 a day if you're good at the basketball minigame
just make sure you stay active during the boss fight and focus on killing moles when you need to
this is not the portal before the boss right
if you're fighting the genies, the next area has the entrance to the boss room
So if you're fighting genies you're there basically
iam fighting lampars
then you got 1 more portal after this to get through
fire spirits* not genies that is
oh ok
Hi guys, quick question. Do i force using the 50% in divinity or stick to using low percentages to get 100%?
Now that Im oblivious on
a 50% chance will feel worse if it fails, but might feel better than failing 50 1% rolls. up to you
I will say that i dont see many people advocating for going for the 50% roll, rather just waiting for a 100% roll or spamming lows forever
Dang, but youre right. I gotta sacrifice low rolls.
But what is the percentage of getting 100%?
gettin 50% untill get 100%
mine just do that
now gotta wait tmmrow for the divinity points
Ill do that now, lol. Its just hard saving divinity as i get like 170 divinity per hour
Thanks!
it didnt work 
Is there something that makes sailing, divinity, and gaming postboxes have 800 max instead of 400 or are they like that in the first place
Nope
re rolling tool

its a 1% chance of success wym
ohh
not just a rerolling tool
they are 800 by default
well my point doesnt go to waste tho
Now all 8 characters are in divinity jail
Even if i get the goat the next is lab jail 
lab jail is way more fun
My max lab is like 5 right now
If I combine a rerolled obol with an unrerolled one, would I get the same results as combining two rerolled ones
So technically if i want a diamond obol i can just reroll 2 out if the 4 silver obols?
1 is enough
since you don't need the second gold one to be rerolled either
iam at the boss but i cant kill it
are you actively playing
ye
did you swap to that talent setup that was posted earlier, specifically for kruk
oh not yet
were you focusing on killing moles before they get to the boss
as in, a mindset of "if a mole reaches a boss, I lose"
try the talent setup that was posted earlier
but there are so many
not wait until they get halfway to the boss, and make sure you have correct food/pots equipped
is this the right foods?
health pot, no
healing food, ehhh Id say probably not
A speed potion if you're slow to getting to the moles as they spawn,
and either all stat gold food which you should have a good amount of, base damage gold food, or the weapon power potion a tier under
whichever gives you the most damage
like, you can passively kill the boss without ever targeting if thats what it takes, just through the volcano, tornado, and purple fireball hitting him
what class are they using? early on health pot are ok-ish on afk mages
ES fighting kattlekruk
fighting kruk? not pushing?
if so I agree health is useless
and I may be detached from the pushing experience but i'd imagine their mana shield gives enough survivability
yes it does;
I tought it was canding to the boss, in which case mana shield doesn't count in survivability
there's optimizations to be made, respeccing doesnt take that long trust
it's worth
alright
(get enough accuracy to hit the moles)
its just the same
the talents
and after it
post new talents
because I can assure you its not the same
Where wormhole
Ah ok
whats your damage, any increase? And crit damage?
Book lightning bolt and meteor if you need to squeeze a bit more
What the red hat.. you need about 30-35m dmg
Just increase a few talent max cap and you're good to go
hmm
okay, but how do i get another key
iam not sure abt w5
i have no minibosses left

keys are gotten from killing the mole mobs outside the boss door
People lazy
hmm
will take to long its 75k/1
Key is key
the w5 key can be obtained from 3 mob, wurms having better drop rate of the 3
Candy for it or active farm it with wormhole. Also w5 colo, which might be the strat here (can also use your bubo or dk for that)
iam to weak, idk why you told me i could do it
i legit wasted a 72hour candy
and 2 talent resets

Dude you respeced your talents to fight the boss while... not having any keys?
You have 30 M damage
And why in the absolutel hell did you use a 72 hour candy 
Blame me all you want i guess
#bot-commands
my bad
if i got instant gaming, but im only getting trillions of bits, is it possible to grind up to atom without anymore external bit bonuses?
mana shield does count towards survivability, picture 1 is 0 talents in mana is life picture 2 is with 249 talent points allocated. obv nothing compared to food and hemoglobin (tested on my skilling preset, having the buff on toolbar/active doesnt matter to afk gains apparently, just having the talent points allocated)
I'm a moron, I resampled all my characters yesterday... and THEN I went and candied all of my WOWs on DB
. Took about 900 hours of candy
why did apocalypse plow not exist for farming
@warm holly
I've gotten all the necessary gods, what do I do next
as in, you've "finished*" divinity?
and your lab is at a good enough level?
All r 50+
Only kruk and badger remain
Justice and bravery monument jails, pushing almost all your characters through w6, getting badjur and kattlekruk unlocked (their bonuses aren't bad)
They don't have bonuses yet
they don't have link bonuses, they have minor bonuses
What God lineup should I do
and then! More divinity jail (god ranks are good, through ES's tab 4 talent and a sneaking bonuses) and more Lab jail (to get a total of 700, 1400, and 2100 lab level for extra special sneaking jewels)
ooh, need to max it out. one sec!
oh, man, it took more than one plant! I'm a failure
what I like to do (and there are many other ways to do this) while I'm, say, pushing with most characters through w6 or sitting in bravery jail is:
All characters main linked to Arctis
1 ES secondary linked to purrmep, other can be w/e (I do omniphau)
Hole Pocket Divinity swaps depending on needs:
Redoing samples:
Goharut & Snehebatu
Claiming afk Fighting gains:
Nobisect & Goharut
Claiming Jail Gains:
Omniphau & Harriep
While active fighting:
Nobisect & Harriep
Oh
there, as it should be
Is engi 18 the last engi
for now yeah
and engi 18 only has 1 bonus you can level and Im not sure if it's even a real bonus ๐ค (stopped at 17 myself)
Should I reinvest opals all on cosmo
The final bucket:
I've been fooled
thank you for enlightening me 
if your measurer is 10 and explorer is 10 then yeah, I got cosmo to 25 +a few conjuror points from the gem shop
My measurer is 9... Fuuuck
well do not fear
10th measurer bonus is multikill per tier
so it's not that important and you can probably just pick it up on your second set of leveling
How do you upgrade it
gloomie caves are good for engineer bonuses
(but yeah I would just forget about it for now and get conjuror points tbh)
I'm probably gonna put dk in the cave for a while while Cosmo levels
Working on getting everyone to skydoggies and 500 level
very nice
I got to skydoggies, got my damage giga high, and now I'm worried the feeling of progression is gonna be gone if I start pushing again and finish world 6
does this do anything?
having it on the same god twice? no
alright
why do people say to farm statues at bored beans with your dk instead of read mushroom ive had better rate at mushrooms???
im beng fr map is also flat so you can clear screen faster bored beans just doesnt seem to make sense
what talent level is your statue?
(and also do you have the vman statue time increase)
huh?
what level is your statue stalent
everything
if you're not able to have statues up the entire time, and you arent able to kill an entire platform with 1 rift wave, then you wont kill bored beans very fast
higher statue level -> multiple statues at once -> at beans means statue at each level -> more kill/hr than shrooms
i'm having some trouble with plunderous mobs.... I'm not too sure why but when i collect more than 100 coins suddenly my flag will reset to 78. I need like 150 on the flag. Does anyone have this same problem?

