lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[honest blaze]

blood berserkjer

My bad, I have dementia armor set

[faint wigeon]

hm yeah bb slightly bad for kruk

[honest blaze]

I dont know how to increase the damage

so I think in upgrading armor

[bleak gazelle]

Usually it's faster for most people to just swap over to ES/DK since they require less damage for boss, but if you want to stick with it
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[severe cloak]

Hmm what do i need work on again to get more base drops loot dfrom mobs? tryna max my viais but still pretty slow

[honest blaze]

but I dont know to which one

[bleak gazelle]

chizoar helm/chest are the easier damage increasing gear pieces

[bleak gazelle]

Multikill Per Tier and more damage for more multikill tiers

[faint wigeon]

farming with ES and vman prints helps alot

[honest blaze]

thanks, I will try to do chizoar then

[faint wigeon]

chiz top half like he said, chiz scarf (tho rare drop), tenacity rings (from flurbo shop in dungeon) all has bonus dmg%

[severe cloak]

Thank you both ill check that out

[lunar wyvern]

Why i have killed 249k but i dont get the red fisbree yet wtff

[stray hull]

It's not a "get one for every 100k kills". It's the rarity of the drop 😉

[faint wigeon]

deathnote isn't exact number of kills as you have multi kill and some other bonus that can boost your kills

also yeah its never guaranteed

[lunar wyvern]

Well its worst there jajaj

[faint wigeon]

like someone could have 1k kills but in reality they could've only killed 500

[lunar wyvern]

Ah okey i missread

So i just have to keep farming

[faint wigeon]

yeah also best to use ES for that

[stray hull]

And yea at the end of the day the kill count doesn't mean a whole lot for drops either since it's RNG. The exception is the guarantee drop but that requires being afk for enough time for base kills to reach a threshold for the item. Easier to just keep farming though

[lunar wyvern]

Why?

[stray hull]

Kill rate and best for items on the main drop table

[faint wigeon]

when farming base drop or anything in the normal drop table of a mob (shown in the card) you wanna use ES as his wormhole mobs can drop those mob drop (and with respawn talent)

[lunar wyvern]

but if is in the wormhole i need to be active?

[faint wigeon]

yes

[stray hull]

Yes

If you are trying to afk get a Frisbee then just leave the character with the highest drop rate there for a good chunk of time. Like 12-24hr depending on your kill/hr

[novel mural]

guys, shrines cant be placed in the hole?

[bleak gazelle]

just put them in town

[novel mural]

ah true, because I can level them from anywhere in w5, right?

thanks ace

time to grind towards 5k in bravery

[long charm]

I did not anticipate what I was getting myself into starting the Sac Kruk battle 😩

[stray hull]

Lol my first kill for him took like 50minutes 😄

[tardy yew]

i think lava decides when the shovel should bless us or not
like he has a little randomizer that pucks out 100 people that get blessed per day

i got a big nugget like a month ago
since then ive upgraded it 13 times

still no luck...

[wheat adder]

Bravery, Justice, and that MF'n snail will get me to quit this game. Hate those three things so, freaking, much.

[lyric glen]

[fallow aurora]

last update was 9 days ago

[lyric glen]

Lol, mod deleted the message. Some dude was promoting some meme coin(?).

[sly cedar]

is 25 the max level of snail? or can it go higher?

[bleak gazelle]

25 is max atm

[sly cedar]

ok nice

im at 20 now, gonna upgrade atom before i try any more

getting close to having all superbits. only 2 left

ive had pretty good luck with snail so far

[kindred dagger]

I rolled straight to 24 like nothing. Now I've been too chickenshit to click the button for the last three months. Honestly, I might never click it...

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle was almost 109f here over 43c in my area

[sly cedar]

just keep encouraging it

[kindred dagger]

Here I am so far, lol -

[sly cedar]

i see

thats pretty crazy

i see why people get frustrated with snail if your goal is to max it

getting to 20 has been easy but i guess from here on it gets a lot trickier

once i get the atom to save lvl at 20 ill start trying for higher i guess

[simple wadi]

You need to work on your W5 hole more. You're at way less reset chance than me, but also half of my success chance.

Meaning your harp game is lacking.

[kindred dagger]

I think IT is showing after some calculations. Here's what my snail looks like in game.

[simple wadi]

Your harp is still lacking then. You've encouraged far more than I have to get that low of a reset chance.

[kindred dagger]

Where on the harp though? I remember something about that when hole came out, but now I can't find it.

[kindred dagger]

I can focus on trebel notes then. But we're at the same multiplier right now.

[simple wadi]

We're not. I'm 8.5% higher than you.

It's not being reflected in the tooltip.

[kindred dagger]

Oh, are you talking about in IT?

[simple wadi]

It's 4% for every power of 10. You have 244T, I have 56Q. That's two powers of 10 above you, and I'm half way to the next power.

[kindred dagger]

Gotcha. So the in-game tooltip is shitty. Well, here's what I'm looking at now. I'll let it simmer a few days and see what happens. Thanks for the heads up.

[marble lotus]

wow, I come to check out about the snail and it's exactly what's being asked

[zinc torrent]

How does the bell in the hole work, do you just afk there even tho it says doing nothing?

[marble lotus]

it's fully passive, you don't need to be ther

[simple wadi]

It's passive. Don't need to afk there.

[zinc torrent]

Peak

Thanks

[simple wadi]

I haven't checked the math, but you get bonus notes for every unique tune you have (C, D, E, F, G, A). You also get a stacking bonus for every string you pluck up to the 5th note. So I keep D, E, F, G, and A on the first 5 notes and then C on the rest.

[kindred dagger]

Final answer, lol. Had it right the first time.

[simple wadi]

lol looks good to me

I actually do A instead of C so I can upgrade my measurement guy as well, but that's me. C is 16x more efficient than A for getting notes.

[novel mural]

guys, is there any indicator when skill xp reduction is capped thru crystal countdown?

[kindred dagger]

I think there's one in IE. Been awhile since I used it.

[kindred dagger]

There is. It's on the player tab. Click your vman, and go to the skills tab.

[novel mural]

is there a new line I should see when I click on chopping for example?

[kindred dagger]

I can't remember. But I did just find it on IT as well. On the top left of dashboard, click configure alerts.

[novel mural]

ooooh I see

yeah it popped up in my IT as well, thank you!

so it basically affects everything up till w3 thats good, easy alchemy grinding while doing CC

although I bet bubo will always have a higher alchemy lvl

[kindred dagger]

Mining, Choppin, Fishing, Catching, Trapping, and Worship are the only ones he needs to stay ahead in. Just those six.

[kindred dagger]

Have you ever been here: https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com

If not, get your json from IT. It's in the data tab. Then go to the scoli site, click on the three lines, and paste your json into the box. Click submit. Then just do what it says.

[novel mural]

yeah I've already used it, tho it gives so much information I feel lost sometimes

[kindred dagger]

If you go there and just scroll down a little bit, you'll see something like this: (makes it easy to keep track of, and it will alert you if someone passes the vman)

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

scoli's tool is my biggest opp

[solar drift]

[random dune]

is anyone down to carry me in w3 dungeon for dream?

[topaz gust]

How much damage should i have if im trying to push world 5 with a bubo

[royal bear]

how do i increase mp regen

[hollow igloo]

theres a card and a talent

[royal bear]

im running out like halfway through kruk fight

ye i got both on

[hollow igloo]

oof. um. then i have no idea. the only one i struggle with is BM after getting the talent. that pretty much saved me

what are you running and what difficulty?

[royal bear]

its only max level 40

dk on normal

i got like 39m~ dmg but in like 2 hours ill proc another 20% increase in hole

[hollow igloo]

i THINK i went in with higher than that? i mean, i didnt summon much cause my knight guy was such a high level i could spawn him as soon as he left.

[royal bear]

yeah i just dont got enough mp for it when it comes on cooldown

is there any way to take off attacks?

[hollow igloo]

like, un assign? you can move something on top of it that you want and it will take its place, even if its already there.

[royal bear]

alr ill see if that works

[faint wigeon]

I'd say around 1mil should be enough as a start, maybe even 500k

but why you wanna push with bubo? push with ES or DK first

unless you're w6 already

[topaz gust]

Im 2 portals away from kattle and at 11 mil max damage idk if i can do it

[faint wigeon]

oh you meant how much dmg for kruk

[faint wigeon]

it'll be a pain to kill it because of dmg and high cd active talents with not so much mob to rely on tenteyecle to reduce talents cd

[topaz gust]

Aight ima just try and get my damage up then so i can hopefully just place down the thing that heals you and damages the enemys and hope that tentacleye get activated

[lunar wyvern]

Anyone can help me with Player rating with letter s?

[cold pasture]

but how much damage to comfortably farm nightmare kruk

[lunar wyvern]

What do i have to do there i have one with the letter P but dont know how

[faint wigeon]

@novel mural get to work

[faint wigeon]

you need to have someone else say a phrase and you'll get an item

[faint wigeon]

around 100b min recommended dmg I think, but comfortably should be something like 1% of his hp?

[novel mural]

hard pass

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[fallow aurora]

why is high performance turned off

[novel mural]

I turned it on for you

[lunar wyvern]

It dosent work

[fallow aurora]

they have to say "1 star, game sucks!" they have to include everything including the comma and exclamation mark

[lunar wyvern]

Yes but it dosent work

[faint wigeon]

are you doing it for someone else, someone is doing it for you or you trynna do it yourself?

[lunar wyvern]

The name has to have a capital S right?

Has to start with S or just with having it

[lunar wyvern]

Someone is doing it for me

[faint wigeon]

has to start with S, also I don't think you can have a capital letter in your game do you? Like I reckon I tried but it ended with lower case d

[lunar wyvern]

You mean typing?

You can use it, and in the name too

[junior arrow]

it must be a capital

[topaz gust]

If im decently far into world 5 (purgatory skulls) should i switch to him, hes level 186 idk if thats good

[faint wigeon]

Oh okay good to know

[faint wigeon]

Who you wanna switch to?

[topaz gust]

Dk but idk if i can get good damage

[faint wigeon]

switching to DK would be better imo, just gotta get some gear if you don’t have the best one and redo your talents if you’re struggling on the fight, oh and also having like 81k accuracy for dmg bonus

[topaz gust]

Aight ima work on that thanks

[stable temple]

You should switch to ES

[royal bear]

slowly waiting for my 10k gold stones from hole so i can finally beat this boss

this guy takes forever

[modern meteor]

how r u unable to beat it like that

Is it a mana problem?

[royal bear]

i was playing another game in background but yeah i think it was cuz i was just autoing and not switching sides

i killed it now tho so i can finally stop pushing worlds

[void shell]

Mana problems in w5.. dk is just hard mode for kattle for sure

[modern meteor]

What is bro on

Dk and es sweep kruk

Vman is considered hard mode

[bleak gazelle]

bb

[night matrix]

What exactly is the difference between the Link Bonus and Minor Link Bonus with Divinity?

[paper sail]

Major bonus is static, always the same. Minor bonus scales with divinity level and Big P bubble

[night matrix]

Just to be clear, character needs to be linked to get both bonuses still, right? The difference is purely one being static and one being able to scale?

[paper sail]

Correct

[night matrix]

Okay, thanks. I previously tried to look it up but I either got no answer or an answer that just confused me further.

[bleak gazelle]

Here's an infographic version from @solar seal
https://i.imgur.com/cAfwvK7.png

[night matrix]

Oh, thanks, that's great!

[north condor]

Maybe a silly question, Is it better to let my chances increase for unlocking a new crop or is it better to try and get the chances higher

Ive been trying to unlock Evertree or what ever it is called for WAY to long

[elfin cypress]

Quantity over quality

[nova lynx]

You should roll often rather than building up your rate

[north condor]

Ive been trying it for like 3 months now I would say daily it is so sad

[lunar wyvern]

Whats the best way to farm cards? being active right?

[bleak gazelle]

roll at like .1% or whatever a board clear gives you

[north condor]

Board clear gives me 2.5%

[oblique jasper]

Being stuck on tree for 3 months is crazy. Chems gonna take you 4 decades

[north condor]

Im just gonna run happy cat thing and activily keep running it at 0.1%

[forest herald]

where can i ask questions about world 6 xD

[bleak gazelle]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟

[forest herald]

ty ❤️

[fiery igloo]

My monkey brain can't cope up

[digital lava]

Is there a guide on what order to buy Gaming upgrades and how to get to endgame Gaming fast? I've been struggling to find a guide in pins or in tips n tricks

[oblique jasper]

I just upgrade everything equally

[digital lava]

And did you get to the endgame quick Harvest All's fast like that?

[bleak gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0
250ish squirrel, 160ish crops, idr any other numbers. the more crops you have, the less actual gaming upgrades you'll need

[digital lava]

By equally you mean everything as soon as you can, or upgrade everything around the same amount of times?

[digital lava]

When you say Crop, do you mean the Science Pen bought via jade in W6, that increase plant evolution chance per Farming crop you know? Or do you mean something to do with Gaming's crops?

So should I prioritize leveling squirrel more?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, farming crops via scientist. Prior to the expansion past 160 crops, most people new to W5/6 would hit instant gaming around when their fertilizer speed was 1.5-1.6 minutes, I believe

I don't remember what their fert speeds were, squirrel speed was in the 250 level range (get squirrel bits to about 4-5x then ignore it for a while)

Most upgrades you can keep around the same cost level, try to prioritize base bit upgrade and keep it at 5-10x higher cost if you can

[digital lava]

Including the 2 squirrel bonuses? Right not my squirrel bits are x2.03 and speed is +37.5%, so not at the 4-5x range you mentioned yet. Should I be upgrading both as they are available for now, prioritize one a bit more?

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, i'd probably just work on both equally. If you've been blessed with a nice nugget, I guess you could just swap to speed now? There's no one size fits all answer for gaming

You can use the blue row of the calculator to make "what-if" adjustments to see how things will affects your speeds

[copper vale]

Where to check the bonus given by the brave monument?

[bleak gazelle]

?wiki Bravery

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Bravery

[copper vale]

I mean in game

[bleak gazelle]

in the bravery cavern??

[copper vale]

Is there a tab? I only got 1 opal so far but I want to choose something like cooking speed but I don't see any tab there to show bonus

[bleak gazelle]

you get to choose a bonus for every battle (Last Stand) that you beat. Once you Run Away from a run, you keep those bonuses forever

some bonuses are locked behind getting to certain waves

[digital lava]

I actually was blessed with a high nugget for no reason early on XD But that's been a long time now

[copper vale]

Ah thanks, I really need the cooking speed and mining efficiency

[mystic cipher]

I don't understand how this is supposed to work

[digital lava]

So you get ore from the well. You use them to unlock stuff from the Engineer in the campfire. (If you don't have the engineer yet, you untie him in one of hte rooms)

[bleak gazelle]

Set the bucket to a rock type to mine it and fill up the bar. Set it to the top type to unlock new ore. Unlock Engineer schematics to expand the bar. Gain some bonuses from expanding the bars.
Each bucket provides the listed fill rate and will progress over time, active or afk.
Bar expansions will only occur while active. If you fill the bar while afk, then when you login it will expand once if it was full.

[digital lava]

You can't progress until you buy the ability from the engineer to expand the cap of those ores

[potent sky]

Anyone can explain to me how Omni power works?

[digital lava]

The 2nd caverns room where you mine to get opals, is unrelated to the well's ores (that was confusing to me when I first joined)

[mystic cipher]

Thanks i couldn't figure out how to increase the capacity

[digital lava]

You want to get this one

[bleak gazelle]

whenever you claim non-candy AFKs, you also get that amount of afk time in one of the 6 categories

[potent sky]

Ohhhh

So if lets say I afked for 6hrs so it might give me 6hrs of printer?

Ik I might not get printing but for example

Ahh thank you 😅

[mystic cipher]

How do I get that?

[bleak gazelle]

Level up your engineer to level 2 and buy it

[mystic cipher]

How do I do that

Do I just feed him pretty rocks

[bleak gazelle]

Yep, opals will give you xp/hr

You can check your rates if you tap the Info button

[bleak gazelle]

So in a bit less than 2 hours you'll be able to buy it

[mystic cipher]

Got it and do the npcs get xp while I'm not afk in well?

[digital lava]

For now just give opals. The goal long term is have each of the NPCs have multiples of 10 opals. Since later on you'll have a bonus where each NPC gets an extra exp gain boost for every 10 opals they have (so going from 9->10 opals would be a bigger boost than 10->11 for example)

I recommend looking at this guide that some people on this server made, if you're the reading type, it's been super helpful to me
#1303761365273415700 message

[mystic cipher]

Sadly I an verry much not the reading type

[digital lava]

🤣 All good

[mystic cipher]

Also what should I make my 10th character. This is current line up

Photos are a few days old

[oblique jasper]

Another dk for construction

[mystic cipher]

If and when I can get my hand on a subclass reset thing I'm going to swap a bb

[errant hound]

oops why do u have 2 maestro broooo @mystic cipher

and 2 bb

[stable parrot]

Gamer

[karmic yarrow]

wait have u finished divinity?

[boreal dune]

dose multi kill affect bone gain

[nova crow]

How many opals can you get from the harp?

[spark stone]

I'm at 6 but chances are so low that I don't even bother finding new ones

I have a string on just because of string variety

[nova crow]

Ah wiat my bad, I thought you get one every time you get a new string too

[robust shore]

send help it begins again aaah

sometimes i think im too old for this nonsense , then i see big number bing bing wahoo and neurons activate

[nova crow]

Thats plenty progress on owl

Just come once a day and reset it

[robust shore]

yeah things are slowing down thankfully on the annoying owl and roo

just bidaily by now , its too much pressure otherwise and i cant into anything that comes after QQQ

23.24E68 of WHAT?

like how do i even calculate it you know ? im on steam and steamlogin so i cant use the IE stuff sadly

[nova crow]

e24, e25, e26, e27 etc

[robust shore]

its just too confuseing but truth be told ive quit math at 9th grade

so ye i just faceroll the restartbutton mostly

now who is this cute lil fella ?! °^__^°

hole big danger or solo ?

[nova crow]

It's world 5s version of roo/owl 😂

Have fun

[robust shore]

oh nooo duud noooOOOo

🤣

[nova crow]

Not a clicker tho

[robust shore]

sometimes my game gets a whitescreen

[nova crow]

Its alot more afk

[robust shore]

does that happen to anyone else ? for no reason sometimes after 10 hours or none at all i cant pinpoint it

[nova crow]

Yeah, I've had it before

[robust shore]

i tried setting function in details to high via taskmanager but no help either

[shell hornet]

which god should i choose for the pocket divinity bonus in the crypts?

[robust shore]

just happens randomly mmostly or when update

satan first then schroet Kommando

[nova crow]

Depends what you're doing with your main link

[analog cave]

Steam? usuallly what I do is make the game window smaller, like where i can barely see the details but see if my inventory is full or something

[shell hornet]

main link like the bubo in the lab?

[nova crow]

Main god, linked in W5 div screen

[robust shore]

ah smaller resolution ye it does run much better then

i got dodoram doe so i just stash everything and i bought all the capacity , feelsgoodman

[shell hornet]

i just got the snake and second one for now

[robust shore]

also rolled on 8 tries pets , i dont wanna talk about it

[shell hornet]

using the snake mostly

[robust shore]

or was it 6 anyway still no rifstlug or doodoot

[nova crow]

Snake until you get goat basically, then go to lab

[robust shore]

i demand to see the RNG manager , yes hello sir refunds

[analog cave]

like around this size, smaller is more confidence that game wont crash xD

[shell hornet]

got riftslug two days ago and deodorant ram ysterday 🙂

[robust shore]

"ye well basically i didnt get the last 2 OP pets so i want a - Hello ?! helo ?

dey holdin us hostage can you send some h-Ack

[robust shore]

deodorant ram is real KINO

always fresh never empty

[shell hornet]

damn it changed my life!

[void shell]

I just want slug and sheep, doot can ignore me.. I don't care, for now.

[robust shore]

ye sure you want sheep

[void shell]

But oh, half my pets are MOLTIS

[robust shore]

sry you kinda set yourself up for it

[shell hornet]

same for me got 2 gods for now haha

[robust shore]

for me it was BEANZ

and crystal custard 5times but 0 slug

[void shell]

Yeah, pocket div kinda mitigates the need for doot a bit

[void shell]

9 pets, 5 moltis

[robust shore]

i just dont look at the monitor and listen to the crunching sound at max decxibel

[shell hornet]

ohh really haha

[robust shore]

i can only recommend my strategy that way the pain is more tolerable

you8 chear CRunchFCruchn oh its deoram! no it was i Slime

dont look at it while pulling

your bad vibes will affect the outcome (tm)

[void shell]

The only time I don't get moltis is when I look

Or else the game will try to be funny

[robust shore]

yeye we all have our gamblers fallacies

its part of the game desune onisann

slotmachine goes br make 10 euro to 100 then into idleopn , very god game saar my englando is buenos aires

[void shell]

I'd probably get harriep in 2-3 days

Gotta wait, already have a 100%

[robust shore]

what is that harriep ?

[void shell]

I don't think it's supposed to take 3 weeks to get

[void shell]

Hare god, 3x printer output

[robust shore]

so i talked to w5 mainquestgiver

and now i just gotta wait on my first divinity

or do ive to do something for it

wiki didnt tell me i checked

nevermind figured it out

[mystic cipher]

Divinity?

[mystic cipher]

Did the jman thing before I joined discord. And after I got to world 2 did I revise my mistakes withe the whole name thing for the first one and decided to make a second one with shor lt name to make life easy

[charred tulip]

what is better god for barbarian cookinh afk? assuming that i have conjuror bonuses and already choose harriep and arctis?

[karmic yarrow]

yea divinity on w5

[mystic cipher]

Ah the god stuf. no

[novel mural]

jesus christ, troll gear needs so much nullo salt

[peak verge]

At least you only need it once.

[novel mural]

so magma gear isnt that good?

or craft it once for slab and forget about it?

[peak verge]

Why magma specifically? You don't craft troll for the sake of magma. You craft troll because it's the end path towards all the other armors.

[novel mural]

I was taking a look at tab5 on wiki

and that was the first to pop up that needed troll

[peak verge]

Well yeah.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1306267365998329876/armorprog.PNG?ex=679ae689&is=67999509&hm=4013f442ae009fd5e9e1663e41cf7738127d8adfdb254630ce7d3b30a508ad65&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1252&height=506

[novel mural]

refinery diff 😭

[peak verge]

No more salts needed after that.

[marble lotus]

3h to go

[vernal relic]

any snail guide after 15?

[karmic yarrow]

does anyone know how to beat frosty firefight

my tower stuff keeps getting stunned

[halcyon pollen]

What should I get first?

[vernal relic]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[mystic cipher]

Should I focus all characters on divinity till I get them all or no?

[karmic yarrow]

yea

[karmic yarrow]

divinity and loot pile

[peak verge]

keep at it?

[vernal relic]

im just doing the 3mail always

[mystic cipher]

im working on both a little but i am still trying to lv some characters in the lab

[mystic cipher]

and when should i get anvil tab 4

[peak verge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DTamBfMkse9LSBLShw9_a5cTqRLLHxYuyMMb2Af6gcQ/edit?gid=1107912856#gid=1107912856

[fleet nexus]

Has there been a change to a world boss fights?

[fallow aurora]

Lava made it longer and more tedious

[brave fable]

when you can and also do div until you have goat then switch to lab

i would stay on div point style until you get omni then youre free to go xp

or you can do it longer and get purrmep up to you

[mystic cipher]

What is omni and what ispurrmep

[brave fable]

yes

omni gives you progress in a skill equivalent to how many hrs of afk you claim

its rly good for breeding as it gives eggs, even better for refinery

[mystic cipher]

Oooh

[brave fable]

purrmep gives double xp and i think points too ehen someone has it active

[mystic cipher]

Oki

[brave fable]

i didnt get omni yntul later cus i had terrible luck but yea i would get it if you can

[nova whale]

I have 30m damage on my es and there is still no way I'm killing kattlekruk

[stray hull]

what is happening when you try? because that should be enough

may take a good while though...

[nova whale]

He out heals me and I don't kill moles.

[fallow aurora]

kill the moles

[stray hull]

what skills are you using? you have to kill the moles

the dmg is so you have enough to kill the moles quick enough, the boss just is secondary

[north ocean]

can you take it easy on lab/div after unlocking purrmep ?

[nova whale]

Yeah the lightning the meteors and the purple fireball. All maxed out. I have rift slug so there are pretty high level.

[north ocean]

what level exactly by max out ?

[stray hull]

what else is on your bar? volcano?

[north ocean]

at 30m damage, u probably can kill kruk on auto, but it will take awhile really. Just initial positioning, some mole will heal but kruk will eventually be dead

i killed him with 33m damage iirc

[cosmic flare]

yeah i killed at 30m as well full auto

[stray hull]

yea kruk is an auto kill on ES and DK

only one that was iffy for me was BB, and that was pre DB

[prime wasp]

I kiled him on BB with ~120m damage

[stray hull]

well yea having like 4x what ES needs makes it easier which is why ES/DK are the easiest ones to get first kill on 😉

dont even need the other kills until later anyways

[pseudo saffron]

I still have to kill kruk with my voidwalker :/ since I made him my 7th char.

[vapid wraith]

10 kill nightmare kruk is an evil merit, but the scarf...

[nova whale]

Beat kruk thanks guys

[silent geode]

Is this a good amount of gmush kills per day?

[echo crag]

its a start

[grim trail]

i got the first half of sovereign in a day (saved up 20 sailing time potions) i got like 1-5% chance finding sovereign artifacts. and then all of the sudden the chance is 0,03%. WHY?

[silent geode]

There was a celebration for an update that increased your artifact find chance
But it only lasted until Tuesday or something idk

[echo crag]

thats just the odds of artifact going down at that milestone, always been like that really

[grim trail]

yeah but it was "only" double find right? still a big difference between numbers

[silent geode]

True

I never understood the artifact find chance

[echo crag]

getting the tuttle vial and vial mastery will help push more artifact, but the odd will be pretty low still

[grim trail]

it was like one potion = 1 artifact, some chests had 5% find

[silent geode]

My chances are always around 0.3%

[grim trail]

got the turtle but i am locked in w4 vials for weeks not finding new vial =/

[echo crag]

you dropping multiple stack rapidly on the cauldron ?

[grim trail]

yes i single dropped them with shift the fastest i can ^^

[echo crag]

rng suck then, but also you dont have to unlock vial in order

[grim trail]

loool i did not knew that xD

working on turtle next then, gives nice bonuses

[echo crag]

yeah its like too important to delay lol

after that just go with which ever bonus would help you more

the equinox vials can be good to get since htey give great boost too

[grim trail]

thanks i will have a look at them

[tough delta]

Is there a sailing guide somewhere? I feel really stuck at Island 9

[bleak gazelle]

!guide has a section, but there's nothing really step-by-step

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[bleak gazelle]

mostly just comes down to send boats to appropriate distance islands and collect as many chests as you can to maximize loot and artifact chance

[echo crag]

and pray that rng god likes you

[fiery igloo]

That's very unlikely

[ruby barn]

TWO????

[echo crag]

well there goes your karma

[flint cradle]

Nah Ur just imagining things it's not real wake up

[tardy yew]

that's all the luck you've had
no more ender captains for the next two months

[craggy willow]

Get artifact find chance from Justice in the hole, your percentage will go up by something like a factor of 10

[robust shore]

i like idleon very much saaar

[signal viper]

What things give monument afk gain%? Monument, bravery and endless summoning? And how many hours is a good breakpoint if I don't have any extra afk gain%

[stray hull]

2k then 5k is a good breakpoint to go for

[modest depot]

should i get my 10th character before divinity lock

[round panther]

dude why is the monument in the hole so stupid....

[ruby barn]

:(

[robust shore]

shiow me bobs oh no its not bobs ? ITS BOB

[tame kayak]

wookert

[vapid wraith]

elephant god (from pocket divinity or doot) + golden hampster food + maxed post office box for sailing + sailing big bubble(or the big bubbles always active companion) + optimized 2 hour sailing distances can turn one stack of chest openings into 5-10 stacks of chest openings depending on luck of hitting the afk time as sailing time chance. very strong for grinding out artifacts. I went back and got everything eldritch save the last 3 Islands in about 2 weeks.

even on 0.1% artifact chances it went by relatively quickly if you collect all chars on the 2 hour mark consistently

probably stuff I'm missing, but sailing is long term af unless you do something like that or get artifact find chances here or there

[fringe flower]

I have a gaming question; what are people's thoughts on if it's worth using "No more praying"? Is it a good option for lazy people who don't like swapping prayers around? I recently unlocked it, and it seems... decent?

[echo crag]

it does not exist <insert jedi handwave here>

[fringe flower]

one more edit should do the trick

there we go

[echo crag]

most curse dont matter in the end and the biggest issue with that is it doesnt allow Giant to spawn

[fringe flower]

oh really?.... dang

[vapid wraith]

balance of pain usually too good for fighting character, but haven't really thought about it. Niche cases might be good like money farming no multikill maps cuz no starpoints. Not sure about the math involved at all tho

zerg rushogen basically has no downsides either... yeah, depends on if you can already handle the curses/haven't unlocked some of the free prayers

some are too good to be worth taking 1/5th for 1/5th of the others

[fringe flower]

dang. well, I was hoping it would be extremely valuable to get a little bit of all of them. but, stopping giants from spawning is kinda a big deal.

[echo crag]

and this bubble just make it so it can take a lot of time to reach a point where you dont get giants anymore, specially if you dont active 24/7

[civic tendon]

Is there something I'm missing with Gaming...I picked the three plants offered as the tutorial, spent the bits, it says my growth cycle time is 10 hours, but it's been something like 20 and the screen is still black. I see people commenting about a bug about it not working when active, but they all say that changing characters allows progress.

I've collected plenty of legitimate AFK time

[cerulean yew]

What is the efficient move for allocating these

[echo crag]

you can mess around with this spread sheet to figure out what works for you https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D707M1vM4yS3yMc9CF3KAtq1BO-78AqL0JqwSQ77NN8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[cerulean yew]

Thanks - i went original & stole something from the Tricky hole guide post

[tawdry kraken]

when im praying for respect do i have to get the whole hour or will it add up if 2 people who where there for an hour in half into 3 hours

[echo crag]

whole hour

[spark stone]

everything more than a multiple of hours is wasted, so waiting 50m = 0 hours

[echo crag]

59m59sec = 0h

[tawdry kraken]

thanks

[spark stone]

unless u have some monument afk %, in which case your "hour" becomes shorter

[bleak gazelle]

Haven't seen any issues about early gaming plants not growing. Most of the evo bugs you're seeing are due to how late game speed works with guaranteed evo tiers.

You mentioned claiming afk time, have you waited 20 real life hours or just claimed 20 AFK hours? AFK time won't progress gaming past your first character claimed unless you've got the DK talent, alch bubble, PO box, or Omniphau divinity

[civic tendon]

I unlocked W5 at about 5pm yesterday, it's now 11:30am the next day. The game client has been open for nearly all that time, but I have periodically swapped characters and collected "real" AFK time.

[charred tulip]

best spot for leveling ?

[echo crag]

did you happen to leave the game open on character select screen, this is known to cause issue with stuff that need to wait for time to pass

[civic tendon]

Nope, just letting my DK murder rams

But apparently complaining is worth something, because there's one sprout on the screen now

[echo crag]

gaming suck at first specialy if you dont buy at least 1 sprinkler from gem shop

[faint wigeon]

usually its last map unlocked, tho check afk info to compare xp/h on the 2-3 last map you unlocked

[craggy sleet]

Guys, did Lava change something, as I can't place towers on the portal platform anymore on the tower defence

[median flare]

The tower just can’t be close to the portal itself

[craggy sleet]

I couldn't place it anywhere, tried two times

[spring finch]

how does justice work?

[fringe flower]

is there a best class to grind the Grotto? just unlocked it

[faint wigeon]

In the Monument Of Justice you will be assigned "court cases" by one of the npcs in the big table below.
You can either Approve or Reject them, and you will obtain or lose your currency based on your choices.
You can also Dismiss. This will completely skip the case and you will not gain or lose anything (unless under special cases).
Every 5 cases The Harbinger will come and will request Court Coins for you to not lose Mental Health.
this on wiki and you might wanna read what every interaction with your choices do

[spring finch]

oh wiki works? wasnt it down?

[faint wigeon]

usually people would just put SB while active farming there so you can farm plunder kill and gloomie/statues (also recommended to do so in crystal farming setup)

[faint wigeon]

it was but now its back

[spring finch]

W, thx

[upbeat depot]

What level should I start actually boosting snail success chance

Instead of just trying for next level? Currently at 16

[faint wigeon]

never

[primal terrace]

yo any tips for sailing

[faint wigeon]

you gamba

[faint wigeon]

!guide has sailing tab, but prio speed captain, cloud discovery is bad

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[craggy sleet]

Tried again after restarting and relogging, still can't place any towers at the platform

[primal terrace]

thanks

[bleak gazelle]

#1277368276095336558 if you're looking for w5 td setups, there's two wave 50 and one for beyond that don't use portla towers

but yes, he changed it to stop people from acidentally going through the portal. instead of just, you know... removing the portals

[craggy sleet]

Ah, that would explain it. Got like 110 before and I was 100% sure I had poison up there

Going to give a shot with that 200 guide, won't be reaching that far but it's better than current youtube guides I guess, thanks ❤️

[night prairie]

Question Regarding the Cavern Pocket Divinity:
How can I use pocket divinity to get extra divinity points?
If they're connected to Arctis, they're connected to the lab. And if they're connected to Goharut they're connected to divinity if they're connected to the lab. So Dooters get both all the time. But if I use pocket divinity in the caverns to connect to both of those, then shouldn't I be gaining divinity? Doesn't seem to be working.

About lvl 150+ Divinity all Characters. Moved them off TranQi on to Mindful and connected them to both those gods, but doesn't seem to be working for gaining divinity. Help?

[faint wigeon]

goat + bear dont work the way you think, no remote connection + div gain

also
> How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

> How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

[knotty raptor]

too bad you switched the images with the names

[night prairie]

Oh dang. Okay. So they have to be real linked to the lab to get anything. Good to know. Thanks.

[faint wigeon]

welp yeah couldn't put the images x)

[faint wigeon]

if that 'combo' worked everyone with doot, and now pocket div, their div level would sky rocket

[silent geode]

It sucks that that doesn't work

I would happily sacrifice one of my doots for this to work

[faint wigeon]

[faint wigeon]

good thing it doesnt

[fallow aurora]

"one of my doots"

[faint wigeon]

bro's saying even the rich are poor to him

[silent geode]

Its all f2p and pure luck

Which means my game is still laggy af when I try active farming

[faint wigeon]

[silent geode]

No auto pickup 💀

[faint wigeon]

gimme one doot I'll gladly buy it for you

[silent geode]

Is trading pets a thing?

[faint wigeon]

nope, neither between pets nor anything else

[silent geode]

Dang

[faint wigeon]

imagine, just create one bazillion account to roll pets then trade on main

[silent geode]

True

That would be a big exploit

[faint wigeon]

ye

[silent geode]

Everyone would have doot already

[faint wigeon]

DOOR

[fallow aurora]

[silent geode]

Auto correct is annoying

[faint wigeon]

disable it

[silent geode]

Fixed it

Now i can type doot quicker

Perfection

[faint wigeon]

door

[fringe flower]

Thank you, this is working much better than the other classes I tried! 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

For some more info

How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Dragon Warrior Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message
Active farm on a Siegebreaker with crystal setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with everyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746
TL;DR - More DR equal shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim. Expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range for 30x DR, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x

[robust shore]

hello ive made it finally to w5 and ive no idea what´s going on

[bleak gazelle]

lul

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome in check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
Also check out #1303761365273415700

[robust shore]

ye i did check em

i cant do nothing in hole yet i assume it´s unlocked later

[craggy sleet]

Yeah, shouldn't take long tho

[bleak gazelle]

Should be able to port there and get your first villagers and cavern started

[robust shore]

hmm okay im at the brightburns

[craggy sleet]

Yeah, should have the portal there

[robust shore]

and i just got rolled by a crystal mob lmao

[bleak gazelle]

can just walk into the portal then

[robust shore]

i guess i need more EHP

active afk good thing i checked now ingame or else id be losing precious manhours , now we cant have that , can we

[bleak gazelle]

red pot

[robust shore]

ye i saw some funny lil fellas and they jumped in the hole , thats about it imma check

[faint wigeon]

they in fact did not jump in the hole

[robust shore]

ye im BM with 3k life only crystals hurt can outplay them but not enough

oh well imma just sit on this divinity altar for now

[faint wigeon]

good

[novel mural]

holy, just went from 5k nuggets to 25k

and I had like 2k, less than a week ago

[faint wigeon]

same, am at 23k ish now

[novel mural]

english is hard tonight

[lunar wyvern]

I've tried to kill them for like 5-10 minutes and nothing, should I get out or what can I do? Because they have heal

[bleak gazelle]

abandon and come back with void tower

[lunar wyvern]

Okey

[copper parcel]

Void tower will turn the mobs color to grey, effectively taking away any ability(such as heal) that it may have. Makes TD much easier when you unlock it

[mystic cipher]

if i have king doot is there any reason to link a god?

[copper parcel]

just one char on purrmep and then the rest can be on any god

[faint wigeon]

Best reason would be for aesthetics for when gods are shown in character selection menu

[vapid wraith]

does paying respect in hole give shrine exp?

[faint wigeon]

yeeh ofc

[broken barn]

wish I had dooty

[copper parcel]

It can be yours for a mere $400! I got mine on pull 194, 6 before the pity doot 😭

[broken barn]

rn im on like

35

and you start on the doot candy on like 33 or 34

its so damn expensive for doot candy

[copper parcel]

It really is... definitely a game changer though if you ever get it. No joke, its like you are playing a different game

[shell hornet]

hey what are the ribbon multiplyer by rank? when i upgraded rank 6 to 7 it jumped from 1.61x to 1.66x, should i stop for now? the jumps will get lower?

[broken barn]

I wish I had it 😢

someone should totally like give me all their green gems

and I can't wait for someone to add another completely busted companion that is 1 million times rarer than doot

[robust shore]

nobody cared who i was until i put on the wings from the pack

[novel mural]

"companion batch 1" (:

[robust shore]

i love the part where treats go up in price too!

so you can lose while you lose , losemaxing

[novel mural]

ways of the gacha

[robust shore]

and yet we prevail!

[novel mural]

@faint wigeon is there any reason I should farm ghampters at wurms rather than citringes or moltis?

[faint wigeon]

ye wurms has keys

[novel mural]

thats it? 😭

[faint wigeon]

ye

also best map to cc farm if you're with bubo

[novel mural]

I have a feeling I'd get more hampters with bubo, let alone keys

just because of raw coverage

I may be talking nonsense too

[faint wigeon]

oh yeah in a few hours of cc farm (with crystal setup) I think I got 158 keys and around 600 ghampters

[novel mural]

I still need like 1.9k hampters for 10k

[faint wigeon]

and 1.7k golden nomwich but thats easy to get now

[faint wigeon]

yep same almost can have that 10k

[novel mural]

oh I've already 10k'd nomwiches and I'm actively using a 15k stack

hampters are more rare

[faint wigeon]

ye

now imagine regular hampter

[novel mural]

do you know how much chance do I get with the 10k hampter stack for sailing afk pop?

or there is a calculator for it somewhere

[faint wigeon]

no idea

[novel mural]

bummer, thanks tho

[faint wigeon]

can ask meme about it but he's busy with w3w4 talk

[novel mural]

it's aight, appreciate it tho

[faint wigeon]

[novel mural]

soon

[faint wigeon]

Soon™

[nova lynx]

Highly dependent on account buffs, class, etc

[languid mist]

How do people get past these nugget-less gameplay walls? Mine's been at the same multiplier for weeks now and I feel like a better multiplier would skyrocket my progression. Likewise, I feel like these terrible pulls are hindering me a lot.

[carmine hearth]

Equinox?

[languid mist]

Might have to look into that I suppose. The tasks have felt outside my reach for a while but it's probably time to get into it.

[bleak gazelle]

#1330702925294735360 message
https://i.imgur.com/kkrtsd0.png
Rank/Displayed Bonus/Multi from the previous rank iirc

[carmine hearth]

Metal detector guarantees that you will get a bigger nugget eventually

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle them looking ok on my db?

[fringe flower]

you need to do you KO! targets (one hit kill Melee punch without a weapon, can be a crit) and your damage will skyrocket

it's one of the highest sources of damage. that and the elimination talent that you will unlock soon.

[digital lava]

Is there a glitch where buckets don't fill up as fast as they should? Doesn't feel like my ore bar is filling at a 99mil per hour rate

[bleak gazelle]

Not bad, make sure you're leveling up your lower cost upgrades too

[digital lava]

Ye I'm aware

Feels like it hasn't hit 328 in hours and the bar wasn't low to start

[pastel kayak]

I moved that one to first level in world 3 this morning

[bleak gazelle]

No, if you're active it'll expand regardless of where you're at

Same with afk, except it's limited to one expansion when you log in (assuming the bar was full)

[digital lava]

Good to know

Though as I said my issue is moreso it feels like it hasn't made progress in hours, like not even enough to reach a cap to eat half

And I've been online for 3 hours

[bleak gazelle]

You've been on a character and not in character select screen, correct?

And not boss farming?

[digital lava]

Been on a character, haven't been fighting bosses

[dull copper]

Does the gold relic artifact stack with the printer output from the christmas event? Also is there a way to check what i've bought from the christmas event point shop?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, believe they're both separate multipliers that you can see in the 3D Printer screen. Don't think you can see shop purchases anywhere in game, but Auto Review should have them

[uneven jacinth]

before i mess it up, how do i unlink ALL of my characters?

[dull copper]

where can i see in the screen?

[paper sail]

1. Sit on altar
2. Click any divinity
3. Click Unlink
4. You are shown all 10 characters next to the divinity they are linked to. Click each one you want to unlink.
5. Click Unlink at the bottom again

[bleak gazelle]

on the 3D Printer UI?

[uneven jacinth]

bless, thank you <3

[dull copper]

aw dang then i didn't buy it lol

[bleak gazelle]

!review Otherwise Auto Review has this section

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[broken barn]

is there already another batch???

[icy stone]

can you candy bones

[stable temple]

Is there anything to do with obols once you've maxed out your pops and dices?

[void shell]

Skilling obols cos why not

[bleak gazelle]

skill obols for minor boosts, card DR to snapshot, everything for slab

[stable temple]

I just completed slab, and I have sets of skill obols too, anything else to do with the fragments?

I'm ending up with a few thousand as a I farm ruby poop and the other DR/useful w123 cards

[bleak gazelle]

reroll all your kruk obols to 6/3

[stable temple]

I guess that makes sense

[rare verge]

What's the best way to farm bits for gaming?

[bleak gazelle]

[mystic cipher]

So linking a god would have no practical affect

[bleak gazelle]

Correct, except for the one to purrmep

[faint wigeon]

plant -> click

[nova rampart]

trying to kill chaotic w5 boss on vman is pain

[hollow rock]

if I have all islands on sailing unlocked, should I just delete all captains with only cloud discovery bonuses? and possibly even other bonuses as well just to remove cloud discovery from my pot?

[velvet turret]

yes, go for artifact if you can

level those boys up

[hollow rock]

so let me see. if it has loot value, I think keep it. boat speed, delete. rare chest value, keep. artifact chance, keep. anything wrong about that?

I say delete boat speed b/c it's becoming worthless at this point.

[velvet turret]

if boat speed/rare chest is good enough with cloud as secondary, keep em

boat speed for latest islands is important

you dont want to wait 40 hours for them to return

[hollow rock]

I guess? feels like that's kinda worthless though, since I'd still need other bonuses for the last island. and I already have boat speed for those, so tying boat speed to cloud discovery is a bit worthless.

[velvet turret]

depends what boat you have them in

[hollow rock]

oh nevermind, I already removed my cloud discovery only ones.

yeah, I suppose.

[velvet turret]

to where do you have artifacts?

[hollow rock]

up to but not including frost relic is all sovereign

currently pushing dreamcatcher now

and then is fury relic

[velvet turret]

the 10k one right?

[hollow rock]

yeah.

[velvet turret]

are you doing max artifact first then move on?

[hollow rock]

sorta

[velvet turret]

dont

[hollow rock]

I know I should probably be optimizing boats with captains that require them (ie all artifact chance should be on the faster boats)

huh?

[velvet turret]

just get tier per tier imo

saves you a lot of headache and gives you a lot of dopamine in the procces

my motto lol

[hollow rock]

not quite sure what you mean lol, everything else except the last islands is eldritch

[velvet turret]

what is your art find chance in skill tab?

[hollow rock]

285.58x

[velvet turret]

the rate of finding sovereign is exponential

so go for the last of the edges ones and then move on

[hollow rock]

ah yeah, I haven't unlocked them yet, so I'm focusing on the important ones here. lol

[velvet turret]

do you have endercaptains?

[hollow rock]

not yet, only just got opals, I just need 400Q jade again for the edge artifacts

[velvet turret]

aah mb, yeh then go for sovereign! didnt know you didnt have the "lighthouse"

[hollow rock]

well, I technically do have it, but yeah I get what you mean lol

[velvet turret]

beware, theres 3

hahhaha

[hollow rock]

yeah, I know. I decided they were less important than getting the opal jewels lol

but those 2 sailing chests and the max level for talents are pretty important, so I thought I'd focus on them first. but had just thought "oh I don't need cloud discovery anymore"

[velvet turret]

no, if lava somehow comes up with another island imma be impressed

butt till then ur good

[hollow rock]

LOL fair

[velvet turret]

but honnestly, i have this and im still struggling

forgive my lack of english grammar, not my first language

[fringe flower]

this guy worth buying?

[velvet turret]

depends on what you have

check IE

[faint wigeon]

for sure if his base speed is better than some other cap you have

[fringe flower]

my sailing is trash haha

so he's probably better than anything I have

[severe cloak]

how long do i afk until i do the story?

[faint wigeon]

don't wait more, do it now

[severe cloak]

Alright

[faint wigeon]

mult will be getting slower and slower

[elfin cypress]

2.4x max

[faint wigeon]

you get diminishing returns after 48h or 2.4x I think?

both same?

[elfin cypress]

If aiming for opals, do minimum trials at 24 hours. Otherwise anywhere between 24 and 48 is cool. I'm sure there is a specific breakpoint within that range, but life happens.

[severe cloak]

Dadoums how do i know if i should run away? idk if it tells me my health?

is it one hit and i lose everything?

[elfin cypress]

Average your damage vs what you need to kill and compare that to the size of your nuts

[severe cloak]

its within my range maybe i risk it

[faint wigeon]

at first you'll see that you won't go that far with not so much bonus

[elfin cypress]

I err on the side

[severe cloak]

Risk?

[vapid wraith]

what could go wrong?

[severe cloak]

yeah im still learning this tbh all i know if i lose i lose my bonuses

[elfin cypress]

Your average damage is (175+16)/2 * (NUMBER OF SWORDS PER ROUND)

[severe cloak]

Ah alright

[elfin cypress]

Sometimes you will risk it, sometimes you will not. You would especially not risk something when you get great gains that run.

[severe cloak]

Okay

the health was too high so i ran away for now

[elfin cypress]

But usually pushing for 1 or 2 more wins doesn't beat the cumulative gains.

Congrats! You have gained gains!

[severe cloak]

This one is nice i like it

i assume reward multi goes up over time? you said max 2.4 right

[faint wigeon]

base 1x at 20 hour, 48 hours is 2.4x

after that its diminishing mult

[elfin cypress]

Yeah, it's linear until 2.4x, then exponential decay occurs

0x when time is less than 20 hour.... Corrected

[severe cloak]

Ahh gotcha

I had 3.4x Rip

[elfin cypress]

Meh. Gotta strat somewhere.

[tawdry kraken]

is there an image that show what boost divinity like there is for lab

[faint wigeon]

?wiki Divinity same shit

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity same shit

[sick nebula]

Is there a strategy for justice monument court cases?

[faint wigeon]

get pop and hope gratefulbinger comes instead of harbinger, get money idk about anything else

[prime wasp]

read https://idleon.wiki/Justice this table and make one yourself I guess

[loud bay]

hello, question on divinity.. there are 1% to 100% option right.. are these cumulative?
I mean is there a bar hidden that adds up the percentages and once it hits 100% then i will get the god?

OR is it when i press 1% then there is 1% chance to get the God? the reason for the ask is i hit 2 gods when i pressed 1%

[cloud flame]

it does not add up

[loud bay]

just got lucky then. thanks

[cloud flame]

you just got fairly lucky, yea

[void shell]

Me stuck here for 2 weeks on the same god.. I wish the game was that easy

When can I start my lab jail.. it doesn't want me to

[loud bay]

lab jail is when you get the goat god, right? thats the next target for me and i have the 100% available for 42k div which when i calculate be around 3 days

[void shell]

I'm part of the unlucky 2% of players

Closing in on 600% total into harriep

Using probability, 98% will have gotten it

[vague crypt]

So I just got back from a 365 day lab jail for most of my chars and was wondering if there was a world 6 questions here?

[bleak gazelle]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟

[vague crypt]

Thanks

[cloud flame]

yea its goat god

[cloud flame]

happens

ive dropped a good bit on badger now

prob 200-300%

[oblique jasper]

This is the second time I’ve seen someone ask if there’s a w6 chat today. Is it not right below the w5 chat for everyone?

[stuck river]

Oh my god

[rotund zinc]

What's a good bar set-up and where to put statue for the 180 divine orb rift

[stable parrot]

Bar should be same as usual

Statue placement should be where it can either hit many rows at once, or to kill some really out of place platforms to proc the respawn more

[stuck river]

Bottom row

Most bottom row

[random dune]

after reaching lvl 25 on conjuror should i take out the points for villager exp and but them into idleon majik?

[naive swan]

should i aim for top half chizoar and bottom half troll before kattlekruk

a lot of people have recommended me to do that

[random dune]

you dont need it for kattle kruk

if it helps you reach you dmg threshold go for it

[naive swan]

it definitely helps

[twin idol]

I mean if you follow the recommended equipment then once you have Void armour or Chiozar top you would work on Troll

[naive swan]

i have no idea how i can increase my damage apart from waiting for alchemy

or levelling up my stamps which requires more materials

[random dune]

how much do you have rn?

[naive swan]

3m-7m

huh for some reason now it's 6.9m that's weird

and my kph just got cut in half

[random dune]

the multiplier from elemental sorceror talent could be good to work towards

[naive swan]

ok nvm now it's back to normal

^fighting purgatory stalkers

i guess ima craft lustre shoes cuz it gives better stats and it could be used for skilling later on

[random dune]

that wont increase your damage

by much

[naive swan]

true

what do you suggest i do

[random dune]

have you talent booked?

talent books are big

[naive swan]

which talents should i book on dk page

[random dune]

if you want to beat kattle kruk fast i suggest elemetal sorceror

[random dune]

their damage is much much higher

[naive swan]

oh RIGHT sailing i forgot about that i just claim the rewards like 3 times a day lol

im on 2nd island and i haven't gotten all artifacts

[naive swan]

which talents should i book here

[random dune]

work on elemental sorceror instead

book gilded and sharpened

[naive swan]

ok

but like the survivability on elemental sorcerer is very low so i need to use at least 1 slot for food whereas on dk i can potion all 4 slots

[random dune]

thats fine

[severe jacinth]

Should I use ES with this crazy DMG or blood berserker with afk kills (2.5k poison mushrooms an hour while BB like 4.5k to 5k

[vernal relic]

use for what exactly?

[novel mural]

I guess we will never know

[gloomy island]

Is there an updated guide for citric conflict after they buffed it? so you can only have 20 towers placed, all guides have tower placement at portals

[peak verge]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[gloomy island]

Says no acess

Access*

[junior arrow]

#👀read-me click the

[wild brook]

can somebody help me about sailing

[dapper lake]

Pog another item goes to slab (my first random event item)

[charred tulip]

do this alchemy bubble slot system is useless if already have sheepie companion?

[unkempt fable]

corndag's sheet says the "unevolving" thing was fixed now - is this about sprouts growing backwards / reverting to lower growth stages? as far as I know they still freeze at growth stage 1 unless I use one of the things that forces time / growth forward or switch to a different character and claim AFK time

[astral leaf]

Whats best to use Ribbons on and can you remove or upgrade ribbons once they are attached?

[unkempt fable]

attack speed, golden food, efficiency, time-gated leveling skills eg divinity + summoning exp. you can replace the ribbon on an upgraded plate with a higher value one, or add the same type of ribbon to raise it to the next level, but can't remove them

chart by starkdevi, more info here: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1330702925294735360

[gilded sedge]

Fortune cookie and skill efficiency seems weird to me

[novel mural]

"permanently"

and check out DB guide for ribbon usage

[barren nymph]

What do you need help with?

[rotund zinc]

Are infinite star signs always active I.E don't need to align to them?

[prime wasp]

Read the description

(yes they do)

[nova burrow]

how does rift 17 work?

[prime wasp]

Skulls?

[nova burrow]

yea

[prime wasp]

Mobs have skulls on them, if you kill skulled mobs they may transfer to other mobs

[unkempt fable]

i guess it's because skill eff is good for everybody but specific to db, fishing eff increases crit chance + damage on a log scale though it falls off after a point

[prime wasp]

mobs with many skulls on them merge skulls

[nova burrow]

oh

[prime wasp]

skulls eventually merge into lava skulls

If you kill all mobs, there will be no mobs for skulls to transfer to, resetting skulls

So don't kill all mobs

Use SB and dump it there for a while

[prime wasp]

If you only have 1 SB then use ES because is less likely to kill all mobs

[unkempt fable]

there's some dispute about this. i was told that skulls have a 50% chance to upgrade on their own if they transfer and the ideal strategy is to keep the map full of mobs (eg with siege breaker) and hunt the highest value skull and pray that it jumps or upgrades. it seemed to work faster for me that way

[prime wasp]

Okay. @nova burrow use this if you can actively play but if you want to dump a char and not worry about it do the other one

[nova burrow]

ah ok

[robust shore]

i love this lil fella so much

so i went in there spent on rocks , gave him 3 opals i got and now i just wait right _

[prime wasp]

Yep

[gilded sedge]

Yeah but like effi meals for that seems like the most unnecessary thing ever, you can already get enough skill efficiency without

[robust shore]

ok this is a lot more relaxing than owl or roo , me like main is parked at goldnuggetmobs after mr brightsides , rest are sitting on the divine toilet

gotta resit them , empty anvil , put em back and then spend pts on ??? i dunno ive choice between an olive branch and meal ticket 40%

[void shell]

Higher print = more dopamine

[wild river]

What can I do to improve my sailing

[robust shore]

do i wait or gamble on divinities to unlock the next gods ?

[torpid halo]

i couldnt be bothered to unlock them XD

[bleak gazelle]

depends on where you're at
if you still need to unlock Goat, I'd just roll left until you get a 100% on the right and save, maybe do the same up to Purrmep if you want. Beyond that feel free to just gamble

yellow 24 bubble will also make gambling better

[echo crag]

this procing on a 100% is

[fallow aurora]

40% is hard cap

[nova lynx]

Gifts abound is beautiful when it hits on god rank

[robust shore]

well you are cheating ! 😛

[robust shore]

thank you kind sir

[robust shore]

i just got to w5 did the sailing , set it up upraded first boat , took a peak at the hole and now just doing some quests

might have to go back to previous worlds but right now everyone is sitting on the divinity throne and i feel relaxed , no more owl roo and other nonsense stress for a while but im about to get 5th electic eel so gotta visit poppy later

w5 is unlocked so i should actgually do my maestro and 2nd DK

[bleak gazelle]

i'd still check on owl/roo if you aren't too far into megas, as it's a bunch of free stats that you'll probably still want to push through w5

[robust shore]

ye naturally owl is at 11th MF (soon tm) and poppy at 5th eel today

im kinda takeing a break from sweaty tryhardpushing and try to get my house in order

[robust shore]

im also whaleing so dmg comes ez , i was told to get some gods first and etc , got the shrines affecting the whole world being pushed at the same time plus divinity on every alt , then at some point them going back to lab and whatnot

(yes i love BM dont ask me why) but DK overtakes him soon at his job

[radiant gorge]

is it possible to get sailing time using candies with Golden hamster?

[novel mural]

thats a weird way to spell bottled wind

[torpid halo]

why is my chopping eff so much lower than every other skill on my maestro?

[narrow sable]

finally everything soverign that matters 😍

[foggy wedge]

does anyone wanna help me defeat king doot

[bleak gazelle]

no passive chopping cards, lower wisdom?
if you actually have a vman and youre not 1st in chopping on him then not getting the right hand bonus applied to yourself via vman enhancement?
if you're comparing to mining/catching, then Hole monuments have provided quite large bonuses to both

[torpid halo]

alright thanks!

[kindred pewter]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[rapid python]

what level are you guys at on gloomie shroom

[bleak gazelle]

took mine to 12 so i could hit 150 statue level

[high bloom]

Is there a priority list for bonuses from bravery?

or like a general consensus for choosing upgrades

[bleak gazelle]

kind of depends on how early you are into hole/game, but something like this in general
opal > multi > afk > bell rate > villager exp > mining/cooking/gaming/bfr > damage/opal chance

these 3 don't appear until later waves

[fallow aurora]

mining efficiency %?

[bleak gazelle]

oh, right, knew i forgot something

[lunar wyvern]

I am farming card drop rate, like what % is good to have?

[robust shore]

you dont actively wear carddrops% you snapshot them

load in with %cardset , and change to fighting preset

(incase you didnt know already)

[novel mural]

damn, there are so many good schematics that rely on gloomie mushrooms

[lunar wyvern]

So i enter the zone with that cards and then change them to fight cards?

[robust shore]

yes

you have to redo this , everytime you change chars / go off have to remain active once you go afk it stops working

then the other slots if you have , should be for droprate% or anything that pushes your multikill (if its available in your given area , progression treshhold)

[lunar wyvern]

for example there i change it but the stats dont say that i still have the card drop rate, but is still working?

[bleak gazelle]

if you entered the map with them (or had them on and entered/exited gemshop), then yes, the Card DR will snapshot and you can move to other cards

[bitter echo]

praying i can get this in time

also free pet im now on 4 sheepies in a row...

[errant pond]

Maybe kill w4 miniboss to get more eggs to get a higher lvl nutto seeing they’re most of the speed anyway

[bitter echo]

good point, suppose its as good a time as any to use these

[errant pond]

Make sure your BM is on the right talent loadout because i’ve made that mistake a few too many times already

[bitter echo]

yeah i just pulled him out of rift

everyones on combat presets atm cus 5m afk rift challenge

19.6k, i think thats a good enough one

now i just gotta stay on top of claims and make sure i use up all my 100 daily

[faint wigeon]

never killed baba so I don't even have that her tho Imma farm baba to buy the jewel

[bitter echo]

w1 colo ezpz

[faint wigeon]

ye

[bitter echo]

i do my dailies so ive had a few of those

[errant pond]

Jewel came way too late for me but still nice to have i guess

[faint wigeon]

had some as well but threw them in early game because no inventory space

[bitter echo]

unrelated note, can you reroll a 1% multikill obol to get 2% like you can with droprate obols?

[lunar wyvern]

I have never known, what does this do?

[faint wigeon]

if its a misc stat yeah

[faint wigeon]

just max that sht if you have the money

[bitter echo]

yeah its not that expensive to max it around w5

[lunar wyvern]

okey

sounds logic

[faint wigeon]

it'll become usefull when you start cc farm and you'll be boosting your cauldrons

[muted plover]

if i pay respect with more than 1 character it will add ?

[faint wigeon]

1 char afk 1 hour at bravery = 1 hour
10 char afk 1 hour at bravery = 1x10 hour

meth

[bitter echo]

i just realised if i really wanted to sweat, i could swap out for alchemics right as the forage thresholds about to meet lol

[faint wigeon]

meh dont

[bitter echo]

thing is i need to do frequent claims if im to make this

i need to get 672 spices per day and the rate is not great for me

[bleak gazelle]

don't forget you also have a 100 claim limit per day

[bitter echo]

yeah i know im not spam claiming for that reason

[faint wigeon]

active bm it is

[bitter echo]

doesnt matter who im active on, not like bm has a spice bonus feelsbad

also i think i may have forgot to put on nobisect for my vman run yesterday whoops

[bleak gazelle]

vman enhancement makes active BM speed up spice

basically all breeding aspects

[bitter echo]

ooh what level

[faint wigeon]

[bitter echo]

okay neat, vmans coming out of the rift, back onto skilling and back to lab jail

err, where should i even active bm

c9?

[faint wigeon]

does his enhancement are still on when you switch on another preset?

[bleak gazelle]

no

non-active preset is never considered for anything

[bleak gazelle]

wurms or samurai

[pseudo saffron]

Wait... what?

[bleak gazelle]

you can press the Claim button on spices 100 times/day

you can get more than 100 spices

[bitter echo]

samurai is way beyond me, worms as in w4 flying worms?

[bleak gazelle]

you can also bypass the 100/day limit with the Spice Spillage star talent

W5 termor wurms

[faint wigeon]

any map you'd usually crystal farm I reckon

[pseudo saffron]

Ok. Good. Thats what i thought

[bleak gazelle]

otherwise probably OJ?

[bitter echo]

yeah ive got points in spice spillage on everyone

[faint wigeon]

I don't

[bitter echo]

my BM is only up to the tower defense map for obvious reasons sadly, im guessing tremor wurms are the ones down below, ive not been there on any characters

[faint wigeon]

last map ye

[faint wigeon]

you should at least have your bubo and dk get there, also get all your char to kruk room

[faint wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1304277791331582032/Tonysaysreadinghard.gif

[bitter echo]

yeah im just tryin to figure out if OJ means the citringes or if theres an OJ monster im not familiar with XD

[faint wigeon]

too much effort comprehending

[bitter echo]

excuuuuuuuuse me i was just curious which map tremors were on

[faint wigeon]

Orange Juice

[radiant gorge]

does the beast master enchanced wallop works on afk kills?

[bitter echo]

yeah but theyre oranges smh my head

im the one doin the juicing

[bleak gazelle]

the map is also OJ Bay

[primal terrace]

when should i start sigils after unlocking every bubble or after maxing every cauldron

[faint wigeon]

active

[primal terrace]

guys 🙂

[faint wigeon]

when you get at least all w6 bubbles, either get w7 while also finishing boosting your cauldrons or start sigils

[faint wigeon]

been not even 20 seconds since you sent that calm down

[primal terrace]

cuz i saw you answer the other guy straight away i taught you ignored me

[bleak gazelle]

fuck you in particular

[primal terrace]

me?

[errant pond]

Maxing every cauldron i’d say, shouldnt take too long once you’re doing active CC’ing anyway

[primal terrace]

kk

[faint wigeon]

nah my internet is slow so for me I answered slighty after he asked but it got sent 20 lightyears after

[primal terrace]

lmao rip

[languid mist]

Do Omniphau's printer time gains effectively shift my printer proc window?

[faint wigeon]

yes

it'll never be the same

[languid mist]

I see. I remember it being on the 30th minute of each hour and now it's sligthly different. I was wondering if that was it or if the time gains were calculated based on the hourly rate. A 5 minute gain giving 5 minutes worth of what an hourly gain would give, for instance.

Thank you

[faint wigeon]

yeah if you claim 1h43m it'll show you a proc of 1 hour prints but it'll still be 1h43m

[high ermine]

So my bubonic conjuror has now made it to W5. Do I still keep my other 6 toons in lab and keep just progging through zones? Feels like i'm losing out leaving the rest of my toons way behind on level and zones.

[faint wigeon]

DIV JAIL

[high ermine]

I keep reading though that Lab is the GOAT though

[faint wigeon]

you want to start div asap to unlock the gods because some are really good

[high ermine]

So just park the 6 at Div?

[faint wigeon]

like x3 prints and x2 kill (both stack with previous lab node already)

[faint wigeon]

all in div and you could maybe push w5 once you have the 2nd god imo

[high ermine]

Got it, is there any catch up mechanics that help with grinding out XP? I obviously can't just have those 6 hit the first zone in W5 as 18k accuracy is way too high for all of them except the BC.

[primal terrace]

am i doing something wrong been stuck with evolutions for like 5 months

[high ermine]

I've read in the past where people have said, get to W5 with one character and the rest will catch up really fast. Just not sure how that's achieved.

[faint wigeon]

bubo (nobody calls him bc )
also I guess thats the time for you to work on gear and stamps and bubbles for all that boost, clicker also helps I guess

I never had acc problem from mid w4 and onwards

also I'd recommend you to push with DK or ES

[primal terrace]

...

[faint wigeon]

ye mb

[faint wigeon]

just do research when you collect all plants on screen, or could do collect one plant research once, collect one research, etc etc

[primal terrace]

so i should click one plant and then research

and is that probability accurate cuz if yes i might be the unluckiest guy ever

[faint wigeon]

I wouldn't do one plant one research, too lazy to do that I only research once I collect all

[primal terrace]

is it the most effective thing to do?

clicking a few extra times isnt that bad

lmao!!!!!!!! started picking one by one and it worked

[undone pollen]

How do i claim the rocks i kinda forgot

[faint wigeon]

your bucket is getting you normal rocks, but its full so you get nothing

so go see your engineer and buy his schematics or get your bucket on the new layer

[undone pollen]

oh

[past sparrow]

Does anyone know if we arent able to onyx the dragon statue? Its not working for me