lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sly cedar]

wiki is having an error and i cant really be bothered manually looking through all loot tables and finding the best maps

[reef hull]

Beans W1; Pots/shelbie W2; W3 with ES sheep->snowflakes->mustaches; W4 Purple mush or clamies; W5 oranges or worms->W6 first map

[hoary whale]

imo w3 isn't worth active farming the statues, better to candy them off the mob that drops the invidiual ones, like penguins

otherwise its a very slow painful grind

also w6 crystal map is mini-chiefs

or sky doggies if you're not there yet

[sly cedar]

ok ty

[fast forge]

how many other evolutions there are after this?

[silver glen]

Afaik, 4 stages then 2 from super bits

[fast forge]

Ah, so since this is the 6th evo i can stop trying since there's no more

for some rason i thought there were 8

[hoary whale]

it def evolves further than that

cause i have 6 evolutions of every plant and am only 54/72 on logbook

[silver glen]

Base + 4 stages +2 super bits. Idt there is t8 yet

Anyone else crashes at den? Can barely kill 3 hounds without crashing

[hoary whale]

i mean theres at least 1 more from the sneaking store that i can think of offhand

[scenic cradle]

whats your snail lvl

[silver glen]

Im not Not that far sadly

[scenic cradle]

dang, how do you have so many bits, mine is 7 iirc and I recently reached red bits

[hoary whale]

monument gives a ton, a juiced nuggy... remembering to max the DK talent for it... lots of bit gain sources

[scenic cradle]

oh, mine is 30k lmao

[silver glen]

Monument?

[hoary whale]

yeh the statue in the hole that you gamble and cry a lot at

bravery specifically

[cosmic flare]

Is there a way to see my crystal chance without external tooling?

[hoary whale]

uhhh in a really janky way yo ucan talk to tome and if its a new high the tome has it... but reliably no

[cosmic flare]

Ugh ok is there a rough guideline when i should start farming for onyx

[hoary whale]

choccie chip, spawning crystals 1-30, 15x DR somewhere around that

[cosmic flare]

Alright ill just wait until lava implements steam login for 3rd party websites

[teal brook]

coco , 1/30-35 crystal chance and yeah 15x DR pref 20+DR tho and 1/25 crystal sapwn chance

[cosmic flare]

Alright i got chip and 8 dr so ill postpone that

[teal brook]

with the game state now there is so much to work on before onyx are worth it ngl so can hold off yeah

[peak verge]

Crystal spawn chance 1/80 (ideally lower if you farmed your cards), dr 10-12x, choco if you have it.

[hoary whale]

getting to w6- putting a tiny amount of work into farming- and getting new class almost instantly gives you x5 more DR

so yah you have other things to focus on rn than onyxing

[peak verge]

That would be a bare minimum to hit the thresholds for w1 statues.

[hoary whale]

i wouldn't even farm w1 crystals without choco ):

[cosmic flare]

Yeah ill keep pushing for now

[peak verge]

It's doable without choco.

[cosmic flare]

I got one more - at what point do i play my bubo actively at all? ive heard maxed tentacle thingy thrown around

[peak verge]

Lvl 200+ Tentacleye (the shaman talent)

[hoary whale]

its for capping liquid to juice your daily bubbles... or super late game if you need money, ig its also decent to push w6 with but you need to invest in him a lot

[cosmic flare]

im guessing that needs maxed library for the guaranteed max checkout

[hoary whale]

doable sure... but theres a long list of stuff that would give you more gains in a faster manner than un-choco'd crystal farms

you don't wanna do 20 book checkouts until you get the achievement to check out so many books tho*

cause that raises max lvl

[cosmic flare]

[peak verge]

You can do 20 book checkouts, it's fine. The alternative is just spamming one book at a time to increase your numbers for the achievement.

Just depends how lazy you are.

[hoary whale]

yeh up to you, doing the 20 checkouts now helps in short term but itll take you a lot longer to reach the... 299 i think it is true cap

[cosmic flare]

Thanks for being so helpful everyone

[hoary whale]

im bad so im nly at 292 myself

[peak verge]

fr

[stuck river]

No lantern?

:insert emoji:

[pastel kayak]

@stuck river that relic?

[peak verge]

I have all artis at sov.

[nova crow]

where damage?

[pastel kayak]

I need to check later no internet right now here

[stuck river]

O

[gilded sedge]

Oh right I forgot the summoning thingy even existed

[peak verge]

Missing the pristine charm and the w6 achiev for constellations.

[stuck river]

I don’t think the constellation mattered cuz I got 299 even without both cheevos

[hoary whale]

the achieve on its own didn't add any ranks for me.. all about that pristine charm T.T

[stuck river]

Sniped

:D

[peak verge]

It's on the old list so idk. I'm just crossing stuff off.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1275213147489439834/1331283265209892998/talent-endlesssummoning.png?ex=679307e8&is=6791b668&hm=aea213151670db843d6b9ee5382ffecae320423ccc5f0c131ade86dc30d03b33&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=616&height=618

[stuck river]

Just fyi u likely don’t need it, just gamble for charm via gem shop or whatever

I was lucky to get it as a free drop while pushing m1

[peak verge]

i don't have gems like that lul

[hoary whale]

iv only seen 1 charm naturally :/

[stuck river]

Same

[fallow aurora]

i've "only" seen 3

[peak verge]

They add up eventually.

[fallow aurora]

one of them was a dupe tho

[peak verge]

YOU CAN GET DUPES?

[fallow aurora]

I bought 1 from gem shop and got it naturally later

[peak verge]

oh that's just fucked

[fallow aurora]

naturally u can

[peak verge]

Here I thought they'd behave more nicely since the drop rates are already abysmall.

[nova crow]

hooray

[marble lotus]

which sov should I grind for next

[hoary whale]

steak and tribobite both very good, laterns, jade rock

autoreview ill have a better recommendation based on like... math and science and stuff tho

[grand path]

why does the redo boss button now appear in different places each time? do i REALLY have to farm bosses manually now?

[nova crow]

It's to stop botters

[grand path]

its an idle game why cant i idle bosses

[hoary whale]

'can i really not cheat anymore'

[grand path]

if by cheating you mean having the mouse in the same place and clickin once every 15 seconds or so while wathing youtube then ig

[nova crow]

well is it really that hard to move your mouse to click if you're semi-there?

theres literally no difference for a human

[hoary whale]

press X to doubt

[grand path]

its not hard but id rather watch the youtibe video on the other monitor

[nova crow]

Whiners be whiners

[hoary whale]

more like accidental self-reports

is what it is

[grand path]

im not botting, didnt know that was a thing in this game

[prime stone]

it's not like u can't watch a vid on 2nd monitor still

Just have to glance over every few sec to see where the button is- not rly a effort tbh

[fallow aurora]

if u misclick it sends u back to town

also the button takes like 5 seconds to appear

making it super tedious and long

[nova crow]

Misclick what? If you click a blank space it doesnt take you to town lol

But also, we're talking about button placement, not when the button appears

[fallow aurora]

i haven't done boss farming after since the update so not 100% sure

i've just heard other people say its super slow and tedious

[nova crow]

Yes, it is

But again, I'm not talking about the time

[grand path]

yeah its slow, i went to town because i clicked where i thought it would be since i hadnt done any bosses for a while

[nova crow]

the button is usually at the top of the screen - how do you randomly teleport to town

[grand path]

if you click at the top but like to the left or right of where the button is then it takes you to town

at least it dit it once for me

[novel mural]

whats snowballing gaming from green bits into purple bits?

[hoary whale]

getting a really lucky nuggy was what did it for me... but nowadays you have the bonus from the hole, and farming crops to really push it

[peak verge]

You have no need for purple bits.

[novel mural]

how about upgrading bubbles with bits tho? 😩

[vapid wraith]

New update adds an active only class, removes afk farming bosses for gems. Confirmed bitcoin miner update we love it

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

[novel mural]

you either neglected your alchemy or simply forgot about 4* bubbles

[peak verge]

I didn't. I'm up to date with the costs but there's about 100 other things I'm gonna lose sleep over rather than the dmg bubbles.

[novel mural]

sailing speed tho 😩

[peak verge]

That one's behind and I still have no use for it anymore.

Nowadays it's possible to finish gaming before getting to 5 sec / instant gaming. Bits ain't what they used to be.

[novel mural]

I must be a pepega in that case

[peak verge]

What do you want purple for?

[novel mural]

uhm

[peak verge]

Or is it just for the last import?

[novel mural]

yeah I wanna max out imports

[peak verge]

How's your speed?

[novel mural]

I dont even have snail yet, is that from one of the boxes?

[peak verge]

I had to pass a QTE to not throw a slur on reaction.

Brother you don't have all imports and you worry about purple. 😭

[novel mural]

see, I want more bits

9.4min with kitsune on

[peak verge]

You got everything except snail?

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

get snail asap

[novel mural]

well, believe it or not, I'm trying to

[peak verge]

do you have the equinox upgrade for nuggets?

[novel mural]

I wish lol

[peak verge]

bruh now you're just stacking debuffs

[novel mural]

respectfully, fuck the dungeon challenges

[peak verge]

Bitch you can get carried in those, tf you talkin about

They're not solo anymore

[novel mural]

the last time I did hh, we didnt even get to 4th phase in w1 dungeon

and I did 4 runs 💀

[peak verge]

what's your rank?

[novel mural]

32

[polar flax]

if i want to farm hamster, is the es better or the dk?

Since it s not a rare drop i suppose es?

[novel mural]

you mean the golden food?

[polar flax]

normal one

[peak verge]

bum

[novel mural]

yeah es

[polar flax]

ty

and for gold food it s dk then?

[novel mural]

I'll take my questions elsewhere, just getting bullied here 😭

[peak verge]

I got some stuff to do, remind me later and I'll carry you through the dungeon clouds.

[peak verge]

Always. Same for statues (except the w3 ones and the accuracy one in w1)

[polar flax]

And when should i concern myself with the gold food farming to get 10k or 100k?

Cause i feel like it s gonna take ages

[novel mural]

I suppose choco chip, booked out orb + enough DR

[polar flax]

Ok ty

[peak verge]

I started at 25x DR and ~1/30 crystal chance because I ran out of things to do. It's not terrible but not exactly thrilling either. Most people recommend going for 100k at like 40x DR.

[novel mural]

double statues could also help, that requires 225 book for enhancement on vman

[polar flax]

ty for that

[peak verge]

Scoli keeps bullying me.

these are all poopy

[bleak gazelle]

i don't think i've ever seen anyone talk about 100k/40x
kind of depends on the food, the easier crystal ones can just be done when you're farming statues. mostly the colo ones where you may want to wait for as high DR as possible

[steel moon]

What is the thing to check account progression

[peak verge]

!review

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[inner thunder]

Ummm for the Gamingskill in W5, I don't think its normal if all my plants respawn almost instantly right? I can click harvest all and before it even finish harvesting its a full respawn? Or have I just not noticed that it can go that fast?

[wary jewel]

I've seen people say that cleaning the bell gives a bonus every 25 levels. I can't find what bonus does that and I don't see how many upgrades I need to reach the next 25 treshold. I've been spamming clean bell and I don't see anything changing. Where is the info on that?

[peak verge]

who tf

[simple wadi]

Congrats, you unlocked instant gaming. It's an overflow bug on the speed that just causes the plants to spawn instantly, letting you spam the harvest button.

[simple wadi]

Did you know you can catch Mew next to S.S.Anne in Pokemon Red/Blue?

[inner thunder]

ah i see

[fallow aurora]

they lied

[wary jewel]

haa makes sense now ty

[halcyon pollen]

Finally w5

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome in check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements

[halcyon pollen]

Where can I find this 3rd📌

How does It calculate to 11?

[cinder osprey]

Is mantra worth it or leave them all on Chakra for exp?

[cinder osprey]

You probably have divitiy boost somewhere like one of the gods passive or something

[halcyon pollen]

I have one with I think es and with the pedestal

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, so rounding is probably showing characters at 2, but actual value 11

if you're on desktop, hit the 📌 in the top right

Also make sure to check out #1303761365273415700

If you're on mobile discord, hit the channel name then there should be a Pins text section you can hit

[halcyon pollen]

Ok 👍

[bleak gazelle]

Depends on how many characters you have on Mantra, but I'd also stick on Focus if you're trying to unlock gods still (I suggest up to Purrmep, but at least Goat)

[novel mural]

@peak verge btw appreciate the thought for the dungeon challenge clouds, dunno when I'll be available tho.. where are you from?

my 50% offer popped Purrmep today, must be the effect of cake day

[cinder osprey]

Im tyring to focus level 40 so i can do other things in the game xD, it just not clear if I get more xp overall with mantra or chakra, when i check afk it seems like chakra but mantra seems like it would help everyone the most

[novel mural]

what I took from it is if you have a lot of ppl on mantra, you could pop more combined xp

as it also counts for folks that arent on the altar too

tooltip info wont include the xp from other characters on mantra, do note that

[cinder osprey]

ahhhhhh

[novel mural]

you'll also unlock vitalic at some point, if you wanna powerlevel 1 specific character for multitool stamp's quest, you could do that while leaving everyone else on mantra

[peak verge]

Hardly matters. Just ping whenever you're available and if I'm around we can hop on.

[novel mural]

might be in about 4-5 hrs, I dont really care much for the location, only the timezone difference but sure, will do

[peak verge]

4PM over here

[novel mural]

yeah same, gmt+1?

[peak verge]

i don't speak italics

[novel mural]

[cinder osprey]

[simple wadi]

Give the man your address and personal schedule. Ffs Delgado, the man needs your help and you're afraid of doxxing yourself? Selfish.

[novel mural]

what the True Pirate said

[severe cloak]

there a guide on importany bubbles to work on? or is auto Scoli a good guide to use for that instead?

[peak verge]

Scoli

[severe cloak]

gotcha ill check it out

[inland coral]

Does putting artics and harriep on pocket divinity work for more prints?

Or i actually need to put players on the lab to activate harriep?

[novel mural]

acecow

[peak verge]

Harriep works regardless, no condition about being in lab.

Only goat requires you to still be manually uploaded into lab.

[novel mural]

catching is so ass to level on vman

[steel moon]

Use ballons 🙂

[glossy rain]

guys a friend of mine just got w5 and he gets much more divinity exp on mages, he has no bubbles for that or so... what could be the issue?

[bleak gazelle]

div is a mage specialized skill (like lab, too), so tab 2 talent will increase gains

[peak verge]

also ES special skill

[glossy rain]

aaah i see

ty xD forgot

[inner belfry]

Is <1% art find normal for this point, or is there bonuses im missing that i just dont realize?

[echo crag]

bit of both

probably

like the odds for the lats ones are bad to begin with and you probably at least missing turtle vial

[novel mural]

finally maxed out skilled dimwit this was easier than I expected

[echo crag]

now max out the other prayers

[novel mural]

I wonder if I should continue leveling royal sampler

I cant reach 90% without it yet

[echo crag]

in due time you will

i think mine still only at like +30% or soemthing like that

tho i should max it and remove it when i next resample

[novel mural]

yeah mine is at 39% so I didnt have to hardfocus the vial and the bubble

[inner belfry]

I just went look on efficiency to find it. what is it world 6 critters?

[echo crag]

it barely does a difference /s

[novel mural]

I dont even know where to get the turtle critter from 😭

wiki 😭

[echo crag]

need to unlock it from jade emporium

[novel mural]

oh, F

[novel mural]

hooooly

dude thats a lotta jade coin

[echo crag]

and this is considered still

[fiery igloo]

Why can't I place tower on the starting

[simple wadi]

*Me waking up to 2.4e35 jade coins

[fiery igloo]

Like on the portal area

[echo crag]

cuz lava changed it

[simple wadi]

It's a bug lava introduced a couple patches ago

[fiery igloo]

So any new setup for the w5 ?

[novel mural]

feature until fixed

there is one from acecow, sec gotta upload it, are you looking to finish wave50 for equinox?

I think it was this, right? @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

Two versions here with additional text
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558

[fiery igloo]

No 100+

[bleak gazelle]

check third version in the link then

[fiery igloo]

Wdym I didn't understand

[fiery igloo]

Boulder bruh I didn't really upgrade it that much yet

[frozen rose]

Just reached 24k hours bravery, still can only hit the 47th wave. Does someone already have bravery multi reward?

[frozen rose]

Thanks!

[bleak gazelle]

unsure if anyone else has gotten it, haven't seen too many posts and i don't ever check achievement channel or w/e it's called

[echo crag]

now the important question, does the buff actually work

[fiery igloo]

So is there is any new defense setup with poisonic elder

[main quarry]

is there a bug when doing w5 boss? every time i kill it the reset button goes somewhere else below the hp bar, and i noticed that when i click outside the reset button i get tp'ed to w5 town?

[echo crag]

working as intended since db patch

[main quarry]

oh, why is that?

[echo crag]

lava's quest to fight automation on farming 300 boss a day

[fiery igloo]

*world 5

[main quarry]

i see, i guess thats fair then

i wish automation was a thing when it comes to killing 300 bosses a day

its an idle game after all

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558 check the third W5 guide here

[drowsy coral]

does blood marrow not get effected by Arctis minor link bonus?

[bleak gazelle]

most important* vman talents aren't affected by extra levels

[drowsy coral]

ah ok i just saw some have extra lvls and some dont

thank you

[polar star]

Woohoo, I'm finally W5

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome in check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements

Also check out #1303761365273415700

[polar star]

Will do, thanks :)

[fiery igloo]

I can't see anything

[bleak gazelle]

you know, that's posted like 4 times in that list

that you probably had to scroll past

[echo crag]

but that involve reading

[brave fable]

what meals do i put my highest ribbons on

[hollow nest]

The cutest ones

[nova lynx]

Early w3 doesn’t have meals or ribbons

[brave fable]

my best is a tier 6 ribbon i was thinking cabbage?

[hollow nest]

That's what I did

Depends on your meal level

[brave fable]

js to make sure you can upgrade them right

my cabbage is 50 rn

[hollow nest]

Yeah u can

[simple wadi]

You can upgrade both the meals and the ribbons.

[tough delta]

Is the bog log in gaming just rng?

lol thats so troll, ive been tryharding choosing cards that show no skulls for so long :(

[tiny moth]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[cinder osprey]

I enjoy the react content we provide 🙂

[brave fable]

#bot-commands

[fiery igloo]

I may be blind I still can't see the guide which mentions about tdm

[brave fable]

just check the master list

[bleak gazelle]

You can follow this link to get to all TD guides
#1277368276095336558 message

Or you can follow this link to specifically get to W5+ guides
#1277368276095336558 message

Once you're there you'll see this section for W5

you want the third link, since the first two are just for wave 50

Here's the link specifically
#endgame-gen-chat message

If you can't see that link, follow the think I sent above earlier

[fiery igloo]

Bruh okay ya found it now

So in this which setup exactly to reach atleast 110 atm cuz my towers are not that high and my canoli is 43 lvl

So I won't go that high anyways

[bleak gazelle]

With all of pancakes guides, start with top or top left setup. get your void, a kraken, and a poison to start at least and work from there

He'll often tell you when to move to the other pictures if you read the guide

You can probably just ignore them for now though

[fiery igloo]

Ahh damn so one poisonic will work

[fiery igloo]

Yaya I read by thats for high high waves and ik I won't reach cuz my towers ain't that high so there is no point in aiming that high

[bleak gazelle]

with a good setup, you'll often be surprised how far you can get

[fiery igloo]

Oh oke thank you though

[echo crag]

and bm can carry you too

[cinder osprey]

Whats your refinery rank to be able to afford all them upgrades?

[nova whale]

On es pushing through w5 should I have wormhole or does that slow down progress?

[bleak gazelle]

I would start very low like 10-20 points and if you're still blasting them as it expires add a few more

since portal mobs don't count for actual portal count you don't want to get stuck on them

but as long as they're dying fast, t hey're respawning actual mobs which do matter

[rotund zinc]

Is there any way to prevent DB from auto targeting skilling stuff (I.E fly nest on sandy pots) I want to leave it up when i go to bed but dont want him to do nothing all nighrt

[quartz valley]

hi all what god should I get in the Pit if I dont have doot?

[bleak gazelle]

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

or do what you like

[quartz valley]

thanks 🙂

[timber oasis]

Is there a reason Im not getting sailing exp anymore?

[bleak gazelle]

bug? try cloud saving and checking again

[pastel zodiac]

i need this one for W4 & W6 too :3

[main kettle]

this or chizoar

[bleak gazelle]

chiz. lustre and diab are just for slab

[bleak gazelle]

#bot-commands !merit4 and !merit6

[pastel zodiac]

Thanks, i'm to newbie for discord 😄

[novel mural]

@peak verge raincheck for tomorrow? I'm working on onyxing a few statues + obols tonight

[peak verge]

I don't know what I'm doing in 10 minutes, let alone tommorow.

[novel mural]

I'll ping you tomorrow

[inland coral]

If lab bonus print and harriep is active how much would i actually be getting?

[novel mural]

6x

[inland coral]

Aight thanks

[floral imp]

Does anyone know why I cant use my keys to open the portal to the 5th boss. When I click the volcano nothing pops up. Is there a certain quest that I have to complete first?

[bleak gazelle]

There shouldnt be, though you're the second person to ask in a week

[echo crag]

did lava add a new "feature" ?

[bleak gazelle]

kek, bought to have to pay red gems to kill boss

i just told them to cloudsave/restart/reinstall. not sure which they did but they said it worked

[fallow aurora]

whos actually farming bosses after the update?

[feral tree]

anyone know the best way to get divinity grind done super fast (just made it to world 5)
like can i use candies or something to help me get levels up fast

[bleak gazelle]

people trying to get into w6

only thing you can do early on is buy div sparkies from gemshop and that won't even speed it up that much

[feral tree]

i got one of them but I'm not a whale so i have no gems now 😅

(mainly bought it for the pet ngl)

[weary ridge]

whats up with this? the chance % doesnt seem to go up anymore, ive been at 11.6% since i had about 1000 of these

[bleak gazelle]

welcome to effective caps

you should roll and then start rolling at much lower chances

quantity > quality

[weary ridge]

oh, i was still on the 'wait till about 25%' part lol

[bleak gazelle]

if you're on the last two, then rolling around 1% and .1% is normally the play

or just clear the board and roll

[weary ridge]

last 3 i think

[bleak gazelle]

close enough, if your speed is fast enough, then you can clear a few times and roll

[weary ridge]

ive got the rock thing too

f

[quiet minnow]

Is chaotic or nightmare kattlekruk a better value for loot?

[granite charm]

always lower the better but if you're grinding for loot you should be able to get enough keys to just do nightmare

[quiet minnow]

@granite charmThank you! I was looking at the trade off between the two, and nightmare didn't seem worth it for 14x the key compared to chaotic

[bleak gazelle]

higher difficulties are for time-sanity, lower is for key-efficiency

[echo crag]

nothing sane about capes drop rate

[lyric glen]

Does lab2100 here refer to 2100px?

[faint wigeon]

total lab level across you char, like for skill mastery

[bleak gazelle]

Nope, 2100 lab levels across your account for ||new Lab Jewels from W6 Jade Emporium||

[lyric glen]

.. oh. ._. That's.. gonna be REALLY long, no?

[faint wigeon]

nah just max all the lab exp meal and some other bonus here and there

[lyric glen]

Ah, so like all things it just gets easier as you progress everything. I asked because just getting most of my guys to lab75 has taken almost 2 months. Most are still around 60 ~ 65

[echo crag]

properly geared bubo with the lab talent will also boost the exp gain by a lot

[faint wigeon]

in less than a week or two my guys went from 60ish to 100-110 (120 for some)

[lyric glen]

Max lvl on these three, right? Making sure Bubo is on the far end?

[lyric glen]

Aite bet. I'll get there then.

[faint wigeon]

yeah ofc

[bleak gazelle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=lab.*xp
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=lab.*eff

[echo crag]

also help to make it the upgraded lab ring and boots

will give him more exp and that will also transfer to lowest character

[primal terrace]

are the 2 white hole teeth or reflection of its big eye(among us eye)

personally i see teeth

[faint wigeon]

you fucker why did you have to share that cursed view

[bleak gazelle]

it's Mater as a wurm

[fair venture]

how do you get the eternal flame of the divine cape

[echo crag]

nightmare kruk

[zinc pagoda]

trying to get that first god rank.. i'm a little more than halfway to the 100%, i would have it now, but my mouse fell on the ground and clicked the lower percentage one >.> and then i had to use a lot of points just to find another 100 x.x I just one ONE god point, and for all my toons to have lvl 80 divitiny for when lava decides to add something to it later

[pseudo saffron]

I see an eye. And the things below it are pincers.

[bleak gazelle]

Make sure you've invested in this bubble some the costs start to drastically increase

[proven parrot]

is it good to do bravery right when the time resets or wait for the multiplier to stack up

[bleak gazelle]

usually better to just roll right away, especially if you haven't made much progress yet

[proven parrot]

im almost at the 750 hour mark

probably am at this point

[warm steppe]

In regards to gaming anyway to make it so when I click harvest all it claims the Chem plants too?

[bleak gazelle]

no, that was specifically changed last year so that you can use chems when you want and don't have to manually click 19 other plants

you wouldn't want to pop multiple chems at the same time anyway

[warm steppe]

Ya it's a nice qol just gets in the way sometimes

[terse verge]

We’ve gone full circle

We used to complain about harvest all clicking chemplants

Now we complain about it not

[warm steppe]

And actually did manually claim for the 15 Chem equinox only after did I realize it didn't claim them when harvest all

[zinc pagoda]

that would imply i remember to get bubbles maybe i should drop some liquid in that

[bleak gazelle]

well, i didn't, i don't think i'd unlocked them until after the change

going for god ranks without w5 bubbles unlocked. what a time to be alive

[zinc pagoda]

i am a very casual player, who has been "playing" longer than i care to admit, and not fully optiomized stuff

[bleak gazelle]

right, so even bigger reason to have bubbles since you can just throw people in there and let your rolls stack up

[terse verge]

Ace is king of unoptimized

[novel mural]

feels like some progress is being made

[bleak gazelle]

are they all rerolled?

[novel mural]

I wish I had more domeo obols on my family page tho

do you have a cheatsheet on what the maxrolls for obols are?

[novel mural]

in that case yes, they are rolled

same goes for family page, it's kind of a mix now, I'm using kruk obols until I get more dementia double sixes

[faint wigeon]

magmus obols grrr

[novel mural]

basically missing 9dr because of those

or magmus obols can be rolled higher than 14?

[novel mural]

thats a yes then, thanks

[novel mural]

yeah, not buying hyper obols yet I need my gems for other stuff

[faint wigeon]

gems? just use 💳

[novel mural]

cant wait to spend a fortune on idleon once I get my new job

[fair venture]

how do you get divine scarf?

[fallow aurora]

craft

[fair venture]

which tab?

[fallow aurora]

5

[fair venture]

i dont have the craft for it

[fallow aurora]

unlocked from merit

[fair venture]

dam

[faint wigeon]

last merit also

[fair venture]

bruh

[faint wigeon]

and you need the pendant from kruk

[fair venture]

thats a lot of grinding to do

[bleak gazelle]

get more DR

[novel mural]

welcome to idleon

[fair venture]

yup

[fallow aurora]

could've gotten them while doing 300 daily world bosses but now its tedious af

[fair venture]

bro share

lava needs to add a trade system

[faint wigeon]

no

for the love of god ||or lava?|| no trade ingame pls

[novel mural]

no he doesnt

[radiant onyx]

what kind of setup (cards) is used for farming dragon statues at shrooms?

[drowsy panther]

How do I explain the new class to my dad lol

[bleak gazelle]

axes

[bleak gazelle]

something like this

[faint wigeon]

great I have only amarok and boop

[novel mural]

w6 cards

[drowsy panther]

Whats the recommended dmg to have on a dk and es at the end of w5

[orchid cove]

can someone explain this?

[novel mural]

relog I guess

[orchid cove]

only like this on my es

[orchid cove]

trust me its like this since 4 days im in w5

[novel mural]

and you dont gain any divinity xp?

[orchid cove]

i do

but no levels

[novel mural]

[tidal vine]

Whatsup everybody! Just unlocked all divinity gods. Is god rank worth it? I just got 1 god rank, but going to 2 seems just too crazy already lol

Don’t wanna park my toons for weeks if it’s not that worth it 😭

[bleak gazelle]

there's benefits but there are a lot of other things that are more important to work on atm

[novel mural]

I wonder if thats the 2nd jail or not

also ace if you are here, where do I farm golden food in w5? OJ bay or wurms?

oj bay seems so comfy with dk

[bleak gazelle]

if you can survive wurms, that's usually better for all the keys you'll want to make scarves

[novel mural]

ah damn, I see, thanks
whats the recommended DR when it comes to golden food farming anyway?

I know, the more the better, but still

[bleak gazelle]

15+? don't think there are any special breakpoints like there are for statues

[novel mural]

I'm at 14 with midas on

[bleak gazelle]

have you maxed out your PO box yet?

[novel mural]

non-predatory?

[bleak gazelle]

w/e the DR one is and crystal

[novel mural]

lemme check, but I think I have on DK

yeah I have

[bleak gazelle]

should be fine then, only goes up from here

i probably wouldn't go for 100k yet, but at least get your 10ks

[novel mural]

I just wanna get some hampters for sailing

especially now that I have onyxed food statue

[bleak gazelle]

endgame chat says to stop cheating or git gudder i guess

[fossil crater]

what would be the most efficient way of getting the suggma recipe for the gloves (1in50M)

[languid mist]

If I leave my DK mining motherlode overnight and it happens to mine enough ore to break through two layers, do I instantly get 2 layers worth of progress or is the "overflowing" progress discarded?

[frosty magnet]

how can i enhance the bonuses from cosmo at the rift/hole ?

[bleak gazelle]

get 3rd blue upgrade

[bleak gazelle]

just 1 layer at a time

[bleak gazelle]

most likely get more DR, then active ES and afk everyone else

[languid mist]

depressing, i have to mine actively enough for a whole night of afk to be worth it then. Thank you

[frosty magnet]

yes it tells me i can enhance now but how do i get the material for it

[bleak gazelle]

i'd just eat the afk time

[bleak gazelle]

it's just more conjuror points, so more levels or gemshop

[languid mist]

My layer requirements are fulfilled in an hour right now, i neglected it for a while

[frosty magnet]

ou ok thank you

[bleak gazelle]

are you only checking the game once a day? leave someone there for an hour while you active something else

[languid mist]

Nah i've got it doing something actively on at least 1 char. It's fine, I'll work it out. I just needed to know how it worked, I can plan things out now.

Thanks again 🫡

[royal bear]

when first unlocking w5 are u supposed to just rush to goat and then sit in lab/divinity

[misty sandal]

Neglecting divinity wasn't abright idea huh

[bleak gazelle]

more or less, once you've got arctis you can start pushing too. you've also got #1303761365273415700 to work on where it's beneficial to afk for a bit for some initial unlocks

[royal bear]

basically all im doing is divinity rn lol

almost got the 2x kill one

gonna go to 22k in a bit B)

[sharp bobcat]

Discarded

[bleak gazelle]

man, over 200% afk gains while still pushing

[royal bear]

i kinda whaled and bought timeless + the new bundle

[sharp bobcat]

I’m pushing w6 with 270% 😭

[bleak gazelle]

w6 is more understandable

[sharp bobcat]

Idk how people get 20m+ kph tho

[bleak gazelle]

more damage so you can hit multikill

you don't really need to push w6 except maybe to mama trolls

and even then that's not immediately necessary

[sharp bobcat]

Yup that’s exactly what I did I reached it today for farming

Unlocked og it’s gonna be very good now

DB already helped a lot pushing through farming

[bleak gazelle]

i can imagine

[sharp bobcat]

Except crops guy are there other bonuses given by farming?

[royal bear]

btw are there any other ways to increase bubble chance other than bubo?

[sharp bobcat]

Nope

[bleak gazelle]

5th column of land ranks give non-farming bonuses

[sharp bobcat]

Aight that’s for later then I guess

[fallow aurora]

I think theres also something in the gem shop

[fair spire]

https://i.imgur.com/N0mw3Sj.png If i understand right mystery upgrade stone CAN upgrade fishing efficiency?

or is it only str,wis,defence it can select?

[azure finch]

I GOT FURY RELIC

YESSSSSSSS

[bleak gazelle]

now get ancient

[royal bear]

whats the fury relic do?

[azure finch]

16 hour trips coming clutch

+25 max talent book lvl

one of the best in the game

0.3% chance to get ancient 😭

[fallow aurora]

it can decrease or increase the misc stat

[fair spire]

so it's only crafted items? or all items so confused

[fallow aurora]

paper boat is a dropped item so it works

[bleak gazelle]

oh, derp, i misread that too

[fair spire]

so all items dropped from monsters/skilling it can increase/decrease the misc stat?

cool maybe time to gamba

[fallow aurora]

tested it a while back, its kind of rare

[fair spire]

cool i only have 1 paper boat hat dont think i wanna gamba on it yet

will do if i loot another

[cinder osprey]

I hear the meta is to use that hat while using sailing gold food while on the divinity grind

[nova burrow]

what is the best way to get anvil 5

[zinc pagoda]

facepalm my next bubble was gifts abound x.x

[proven parrot]

does upgrading the pong controller do anything

[cinder osprey]

Lets you get an achievement if you score 0 in pong

thats the only reason I want it at least

[proven parrot]

so upgrading it does nothing

ive been had that achievement

and have still upgraded the controller

[bleak gazelle]

it literally says no bonus

[zinc pagoda]

lava is a troll, and is known to lie

the wiki is currently down though, so its hard to check x.x

there is a multipler factor now

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle got this morning

Have all the islands in sailing unlocked too now @bleak gazelle

[azure finch]

with 201 tenteycle, and at citringes map how often should i expect to get cranium cooking

[bleak gazelle]

if your po box is maxed too and your bubble is a decent level, you can get down to ~15 minutes between cycles i think

[lyric glen]

mana po box, right?

[bleak gazelle]

alchemy

[royal bear]

why does this say bottom right? the chips slots are all in a single line so does this just mean the bottom one?

[bleak gazelle]

what is it doubling

[royal bear]

so confused

[bleak gazelle]

it's doubling cards

cards are not chips

[royal bear]

ohhhhhhhh

confuzzled

[fossil crater]

your cards like the cards u get as drops and you equip

[royal bear]

yur

thought it said chips

[fossil crater]

lost to reading boss

[fair spire]

which one would be better for sampling on vman?

[terse verge]

Depends on what you are sampling. You could always sample with both - it wont ever overwrite a higher sample so you’d never revert if it lowered

[fair spire]

yeh ill try both if i have time after speedrun

[glossy pike]

Is there a gaming guide, I can kinda of do 5 second gaming but I can’t instant game in w5 and unsure to what I am missing

[bleak gazelle]

more farming crops

Use this too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259

[glossy pike]

I’ve up to like 107 but am waiting on unlocking next seed

[terse verge]

Farming is like 90% of getting to instant

So that’ll explain why you dont have it yet

[glossy pike]

So what should I go for minimum for instant like 150 crops?

[terse verge]

Its a sliding scale

We were able to get instant at 120 crops, but that required bigger bonuses from things like squirrel. With more crops, the bar is lower.

You can use that sheet to find out how many crops you need based on your other gaming bonuses. Just override the crop number and keep +1 til you get instant to activate

[azure finch]

what treasure do i need to get to upgrade the power trione bubble?

wiki down 😭

still

soemone please 😭

what island is this treasure from

everyone despawned

[bleak gazelle]

frost? you can click on the islands and it'll show you

oh, no, it's the cloud one. duh

after fury

[royal bear]

!merit4

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[royal bear]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[uneven jacinth]

am i an idiot or what is 'active alchemy'?

[toxic saddle]

Bubo

Cranium cooking, aka. Speeding up alchemy(getting water, pushing bubbles)

If you’re pushing Sigils, don’t active bubo. Everytime cc is active. Sigils will stop progressing

[uneven jacinth]

doesn't CC take like a day to cooldown?

[toxic saddle]

Not with a high tent eye

Ahh… sorry, Tenteyecle

[uneven jacinth]

ahhhh, ok. my max library is only 160. so maybe i need to try to get that up and then it will be easier.

[toxic saddle]

When it hits 200+

Is when it starts to speed up a lot

You can active bubo on some maps and get hella kills per hr

[uneven jacinth]

ok. and why did i see people say worms is best? i thought floms was most kills?

or at least more* kills?

[radiant hazel]

Is it a bug that if im doing Death Bringer quest, W1-W4 Colisseum has no problem using my BB but on W5 Colisseum, just 3 monster enemies appear?

Im using Android and tried doing the colliseum run 2x still the same

[bleak gazelle]

3 monster types? that's normal for w5 colo

#1330702925294735360 also

[orchid moss]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[radiant hazel]

@bleak gazelle thanks for the info link 👍

[unborn mauve]

gaming progress seems to have come to a standstill at about the hundreds to low thousands in green bits

how do i progress further

[bleak gazelle]

find the next upgrade, rinse and repeat

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=bits

[zinc torrent]

What mid game setup would someone recommend for beastmaster/vman prints?

[glossy pike]

Honestly 5 sec gaming while farming bones isn’t that bad

[glossy pike]

Trials has a good list of sample

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303887857324265514

[zinc torrent]

Thankyou

[unborn mauve]

ty

[bleak gazelle]

most likely a new sailing artifact or new nugget. Equinox upgrade is huge as it allows you to force new nuggets, especially powerful with chem plants

[unborn mauve]

ah thats right im still missing 2 plants

[bleak gazelle]

make sure you picking and rolling as often as possible

[muted scroll]

man, getting the next upgrade going to take ages

[fierce cargo]

it's not so bad, just go back and forth while you get the lowest cost upgrades

[muted scroll]

yea, ill do femurs first until it takes some times and ill do the next bones

[zinc torrent]

Finally redid all my prints
I think that's pretty good for 3 weeks

[bleak gazelle]

man. guess i really gotta resample now

[fierce cargo]

yea you do lazy ass

[zinc torrent]

I find deleting all your samples to be a huge help..

Forces you to do it

[bleak gazelle]

got all my t7s

didn't even have to try

[hollow nest]

I got a big jump from the sailing artifact

[fiery igloo]

Is the exp percentage ok for my level

[iron reef]

Guys 5000+ royal sugma urn and still no recipe 🙂 who is with me??

[bleak gazelle]

pray harder

[royal bear]

get better rng skill

[oblique jasper]

I got it on my schow

[hybrid girder]

Do i have enough dmg/def/acc to kill the boss? i can use candy for the quest for keys

[royal bear]

maybe get void armour/chizoar

[oblique jasper]

Nope gonna need 50-80m on bb

[hybrid girder]

i only recently unlocked mining for void ore

[royal bear]

im at the same progression point as you and its a nonproblem

[royal bear]

i get like 3k prints with very little focus on it

[hybrid girder]

nobody has really left lab/div since mine unlocked them

[royal bear]

i literally have the same equipment as you

[hybrid girder]

except my bb

[bleak gazelle]

It may be faster to throw everything onto a DK or ES and push with them instead. BB usually needs in the 80m range to kill boss compared to 30m for ES/DK

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[hybrid girder]

alch is getting rough for me

chances are getting sub 20% on my bubo

[bleak gazelle]

not just unlocking new bubbles, upgrading existing ones

[severe elbow]

how do i get higher damge

[royal bear]

how high damerg

[hybrid girder]

is there a way i can link my idleontoolbox account?

[severe elbow]

i have 40mil

on my bb

[royal bear]

pro tip

switch to dk

[severe elbow]

bru

[lyric glen]

Go and get 100k kills on all mob types that are feasible for you currently. Are you trying to complete w5 with your BB?

[severe elbow]

i did

my hole acc is on bb

[hybrid girder]

really? lol so i have my 2nd dk i just made a few days ago time to make it my pusher and get to world 5 boss again?

[royal bear]

same my hole account is on voidman

[severe elbow]

i need to get 900mil

[lyric glen]

@severe elbow If you can, sign up for Idleon Toolbox and follow these steps and share your account progress.

[hybrid girder]

https://idleontoolbox.com/data?profile=Lumdumpster

[hybrid girder]

ty

[severe elbow]

how do i share my tool box

[hybrid girder]

see the post i replied to above you

[severe elbow]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Ahmed247

is it good

who knows griffy bit

[bleak gazelle]

Just some quick observations

If you want to stick with BB, work on W1-3 Zows, ideally W1-5
Boost first bubbles for str/wis to ~100
Can get first three sigils relatively quickly for some more base stats
Work on stamps, try to double your level. Skill stamps (and bubbles) will leed to higher prints which you can use to level damage stamps/bubbles
Nobi may give you some damage, though at Div 2 probably not
You have a new engi schematic next level that will give some damage
Keep sailing for artifacts, hippo will give some damage, make sure you buy new boats/captains
Equip orange potions over XP pots

[severe elbow]

i did

ill do any charecter

whos nobi

[hybrid girder]

would it be easier to transition to a dk or es now than to push the boss kill then do it once w6 is unlocked?

[severe elbow]

ok

can u help

[bleak gazelle]

I honestly think so, BB requires more account-wide bonuses for damage than the other two

But some people enjoy BB and have beaten boss with it

[severe elbow]

ok

[lyric glen]

He isn't talking to you as yet. He's helping Azrael currently.

[hybrid girder]

how should i go about doing it? i could buy a class swap token

and a 2nd eventually to make one of my other 2 dks a bb

[bleak gazelle]

i'd just throw your stuff on your DK and level/candy him

[hybrid girder]

ive been using candies to push faster on my BB

[lyric glen]

Definitely not worth. Do you active farm at all?

[hybrid girder]

i leave my window up often

i also have my 96 dk that has a decent amount of skilling talents and my brand new dk at 84

[lyric glen]

Aite, your DK will only need to get to around lvl 225 to become significant. I'd suggest gearing him then leaving him active at Suggmas OR teleporting to the Hole, candy the thermometer map then leave him active at the cheese sandwiches for quick levels.

[bleak gazelle]

For you, I'd work on
W1 Owl and W2 Roo - there's both damage and accuracy from both that will help
Stamps - just level everything. Skill stamps will help your samples, this can help with damage stamps
Alchemy - Work on your first bubbles, try to get them to ~level 100, keep unlocking new bubbles up to the 18th, if possible
Sigils, I'd move people off of sigils and back to cauldrons, you can do sigils in W6
If you can do Party Dungeons, you can get a bunch of talent points, weapon power, and accuracy from there

Anyway, I gotta sleep now. Pavtec can help you more

[lyric glen]

2AM where I'm at 👀

[hybrid girder]

Ty for your help good night

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, 130a and i'm still sick but keep getting dragged into conversations

[karmic yarrow]

Does anyone know how to get the Cardiovascular talent and Pulsation talent

[hybrid girder]

Would you suggest the fresher dk or just start leveling my older miner

[lyric glen]

@severe elbow Go to #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ and check the pinned messages for a guide on W2 Roo. It's a buncha simple math, but don't fret it too much.

[lyric glen]

Fresher DK. You're gonna get a lotta exp very quickly. Are you able to craft at least the chizoar helm/chest?

[lyric glen]

W2 minibosses. Get this upgrade from W2 merit shop.

[karmic yarrow]

do you need full 8

full 8 points?

[hybrid girder]

no i dont think i can is it the 3rd tab?

[lyric glen]

Nah. More upgrades = more chance. If you've ever done Doot or the hourglass dude in the colosseum, they are who the talents drop from.

[hybrid girder]

which ones are they?

[lyric glen]

Yup. Bottom right upgrades in w3 merit shop.

[karmic yarrow]

Pulsation Plus percentage mana regeneration rate Requires a point in the 7th Yum Yum Desert Merit Shop Merit. Drops from Biggie Hours or King Doot. Gives a random max lvl (up to 100) 100
Cardiovascular!.png Cardiovascular! Plus percentage additional card drop rate Requires a point in the 7th Yum Yum Desert Merit Shop Merit. Drops from Biggie Hours or King Doot. Gives a random max lvl (up to 100)

This is wat it says on the wiki?

oh nvm i read it wrong

[hybrid girder]

I meant the anvil tab but yeah i'm not sure how far ive unlocked. my next task is to beat him on 8 chars in order

ive not unlocked him on all 8 chars yet

[full bluff]

just got to w5, any immediate tips or things to know?

[hybrid girder]

I think i was planning on spending my points on the library books

[lyric glen]

Level this up, you'll get the helm in 4 upgrades. You also wanna get the upgrades for the talent library for better talent levels.

[hybrid girder]

do i have the 4th upgrade unlocked based on the task progression? i have 7 points atm

[lyric glen]

Move your gear over to your DK first, level him up, see how much dmg you need first. If you're lacking dmg, then go for Chizoar. If not, get the library upgrades.

I don't remember the progression path with the achievements.. Since you have Nobisect (divinity) unlocked, you could also just swap your guys to it for a day and blaze through w3 afk and have everyone at the boss.

[hybrid girder]

I have nobisect selected in my hole upgrade

[lyric glen]

Check pinned comments. You'll wanna get a start on divinity asap, and get sailing going.

[hybrid girder]

is that for everyone?

[lyric glen]

Yup. Pocket divinity is account wide.

[karmic yarrow]

i got all the boss keys from w1-3 then hop on divinity

[hybrid girder]

ok yeah i have everyone on lab until i get the goat i think then going back to lab to level that up

are the idleontoolbox builds good enough to follow?

[lyric glen]

Yes, while that's the current goal, you may run into issues with DPS. If you do, then you go for Chizoar upgrades. If you don't, then you can focus with your DK through w5.

[lyric glen]

Read the talents and see how they work for yourself. Sometimes your account isn't at the level to follow their build 1:1, so knowing what each talent does and how it fits into your kit currently should be the priority. Use the build as a rough guide on what can be paired together.

[lyric glen]

Also, loose suggestion but it's what I did. By w5 start, it made sense to me to have all 10 dudes to get more divinity progress. More guys on altar = more points per hour. A lot of your alts could be made level ~175 in a few days by leaving them afk in w4 to unlock your next 2 chars.

You have 6 food slots, so put some dmg potions and some food on them. Shouldn't take too long and should also give them more talent points for their skills.

[hybrid girder]

so take a few days to get them leveled up a bit to get 2 more for div farming

honestly thats my one thing i dont like since unlocking world 4

all my alts just stopping what they're doing to sit in lab and now div

[lyric glen]

Lol yeah, but that's how w4 and onwards is intended to be done. Takes awhile for the buffs from those things to get started, but the buffs are huge. I have 9 of my guys in lab/div jail without any issues to the rest of my progress.

Lab gives sampling buffs, so the intention is to take good samples on your skilling dudes, put them in lab and have those buffs make up for the resource deficit you'd originally have. Div after awhile allows you to be in both lab and div, so the intention there is also clear.

[hybrid girder]

yeah i just reached lab before i felt like my account was ready

like i said earlier i just unlocked void ore zone like 2-3 days ago

none of my other skills are very good

[lyric glen]

For instance, I hadn't sampled since I started w3 and only two days ago did a round of resampling. I moved from 44k copper/hr to 4.44M/hr.

Ah, so based on your account progression, you'd benefit from better talent levels on your skills (aka level your dudes). It's your choice, but there's a suggested route. If you push the worlds you're gonna have to go back and level all of those stuff eventually. Div, Sailing, Lab, Hole, Vman, a buncha upgrades give a lot of boost to making skilling easier.

[hybrid girder]

yeah i was just focusing on getting everything unlocked so i could do it as i please

i havent even started the skilling portion to unlock maestro

[lyric glen]

Yup. Anytime something seems 'too hard' or 'too slow' or 'too little', the answer is most likely some other account progression you needa go back and do. 🥲

[hybrid girder]

i pretty much got my journyman unlocked and went into lab/div

[lyric glen]

Aite, want me to share what I did around your point in time or you prefer to just take your time and choose what's next? Idm dm'ing you.

[hybrid girder]

sure feel free i'm always interested in better ways

[hoary granite]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Domeo_Magmus

is the wiki broken for anyone else

[teal brook]

yes need to use wiki archieve

[hoary granite]

wheres that

[teal brook]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230324052804/https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Wellington

[hoary granite]

thank you

[fickle lake]

finally got around to reprint, good gains

[spring current]

Hey guys just wanna ask something. What is best, w5 upgrade stone or w6 upgrade stone?

[orchid cove]

i accedently maxed this can i reset it? i get one shoted

[orchid cove]

allways the last world u have

[spring current]

Click the sword stone, then click it again and hold

It will reset

[sharp bobcat]

hi does anyone have a spreadsheet for justice ?

[teal brook]

for what?

[junior arrow]

if you are on PC you can also use your scroll wheel to go up and down

[sharp bobcat]

well for justice, for all the interactions

[orchid cove]

changed from kendric to SkiBiDiRizzlerFromOhioSigma69420 downfall

fuck off

stemscommunity? more like steamcommunity

[teal brook]

its called being sigma

[frail rover]

trilobite rock is disabled right? im lost without the wiki

[junior arrow]

wiki is back up now

its slow but working

[steel karma]

Might be a noob question but anyone knows why even when all the meals are maxed the tome points for meal levels is not maxed but gold?

[junior arrow]

cause its meant for future meals

[fiery igloo]

I m not gaining that much money atm any tips

[broken nexus]

are my stats good for where im at?

mid damage but i mean i dont have any buffs on

[teal brook]

are you done with W5?

[broken nexus]

no

18k accuracy

[teal brook]

also "good" on that aspect is hard to judge depending on your time but your stats are good enough to beat W5 so rush to W6

[broken nexus]

accuracy be the hardest stat to get

[teal brook]

secondary stats on all equips and tool , prayers , alchemy

[broken nexus]

i completely forgot tools could be stoned

thanks

[severe elbow]

hey

i need damge

ok

what do i need bubbles

um send in chat

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Ahmed247

what do i need to do

[faint wigeon]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[cinder nest]

Where can I find the db guide

[faint wigeon]

#1330702925294735360 message w6 pin

[cinder nest]

Big thanks

[broken nexus]

deathbringer in world 5

[severe elbow]

hi

i need damge

[faint wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1304277791331582032/Tonysaysreadinghard.gif

[cinder osprey]

Have you tried looking at the websight called idleoninsight?

[severe elbow]

no

[faint wigeon]

@cinder osprey

[cinder osprey]

I was fowarding ur msg p much to give him the ability to do that

[sinful juniper]

hey yall with the wiki down, does someone know what mob has highest drop rate for reg hampter?

[tardy yew]

brown mushrooms have the most
but you need to equip giant prayer

[faint wigeon]

stiltmole are the only mob to drop ||normal|| hampter

[tardy yew]

killjoy!

[faint wigeon]

you're talking about golden hampter, bobby is asking for non-golden hampter

[stable temple]

Why is this help channel so toxic today

[tardy yew]

ah you're right!

[faint wigeon]

wait no is your 'brown mushroom' the stiltmole?

[tardy yew]

oh you didn't get it

i was just telling him lies because why not

[faint wigeon]

me dumdum

[faint wigeon]

oh

[tardy yew]

no my lie was too good

[faint wigeon]

sorry I went straight in it x)

[astral cipher]

How do we unlock sovereign artifacts?

[tardy yew]

have you seen the new profile pic of the idleon discord server?

[tardy yew]

i think it was lab

[astral cipher]

Cool thanks 🙂

[faint wigeon]

eldritch -> rift
sovereign -> jade empo

[astral cipher]

Thanks a lot, I am lost when Idle wiki doesnt work xD

[marble lotus]

note that you will (probably) need to get to mastery (or at least floor 12) to buy the Sov upgrade

[astral cipher]

Yes, I looked at what I need to unlock it, I wont be able to get there before several weeks xD

[hallow spire]

big brain question but if my AFK gains rate is 149% and im trying to push to world 6 as a BB should i play active or not

[astral cipher]

If I put My Royal traps at 10 hours while I have the rift bonus who automatically gather my trap every 24 hours, does the rift take my traps every 12 hours or something?
If not, what happens with 40 hours?

[peak verge]

As BB absolutely not. As DB however.... debatable still on how well he can perform now that he has a respawn mechanic.

[echo crag]

rift only trigger every 20h for traps, so for a 40h trap nothing will happen day 1 and will be gathered on day 2

[zealous pagoda]

How do I farm Kruk Tooth fast? need like 1000 of em and only am getting 3 per kill

[sharp bobcat]

get more DR

how much DR you got rn?

[zealous pagoda]

like 20x

[sharp bobcat]

welp

[terse verge]

Wookie magically removed 4 hrs from a day

[echo crag]

i recall lava tweaking something about hte bonus but not what exacly

[marble lotus]

get more keys and kill knightmare

[zealous pagoda]

OMG he does way more on Nightmare dafuq

[icy pulsar]

then grind to be good enough to win at nightmare, it’s what drops the most

should be able to honestly, w5 is when your damage and general account really starts to ramp up imo

[wraith tapir]

Anyone have any good tips on boosting my smelting? I'm trying to get my characters to Troll Armor and above, and I'm hitting a wall with the Starfire Bar...They just don't smelt fast enough for me, am I doing something wrong?

[echo crag]

archer smelting talent for mob kill, use candy at gmush

[wraith tapir]

Thanks! :3

[zealous pagoda]

nono hes onehsot but he drops like 10x more

[prime parrot]

what portal did i unlock?

[dull ember]

It's bug

[terse verge]

@manic nebula re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
make sure you haven’t blacklisted talent books after the new one was added in w1. Lot of folks did this and forgot to un-blacklist after game realized you’ve already learned it.

[terse verge]

Most maps have a “pseudo-portal” even if it doesnt lead anywhere (useful for vman speedrun to boost portal count). Just oddity in how game is designed

You can see the full list https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Portal_Requirements

[prime parrot]

is it present in all worlds?

oh hey thanks!

[terse verge]

Not sure if that is one of the broken wiki pages but the info is all there when it gets fixed

[prime parrot]

its broken for now, but tysm~!

[spark stone]

does anyone know how much speed do I need to do a 4H trip on the last island in sailing?

[silent birch]

A lot

[spark stone]

like 100M?

[heavy egret]

why in kattlekruk, the radiant bolt of my elemental wiz keep flying downward and then back up?

are there like mobs outside the map ._.

[novel mural]

I can safely do CC at wurms now

[mighty sequoia]

where would you farm this achievement? I basically finished collecting all artefacts, no longer need sailing, only for this achievement

[feral hearth]

that's paying for boat upgrades with loot

[mighty sequoia]

yea but which island is the easiest to pull this off with?

like anything for the first boat with bars ?

[feral hearth]

ohh i see what you're asking

(also I don't think i have that answer)

[mighty sequoia]

:^(

[feral hearth]

I would think that stocking up on the more valuable resources to trade with the npc to the right of the loot pile would be the fastest way to get gold bars, which can be used to upgrade the first boat, i believe

[sharp bobcat]

hi what's the best way to farm skilling cards?

[feral hearth]

put on all the card and drop rate boost cards you have available, then you really get those cards from doing different skill tasks, i.e. chopping gives mining, mining gives chopping, you can check your drop rate stuff to try to see if you've got the right skill started to get the cards you're aiming for. I know it's not as simple as 'afk mining to get mining cards'

[echo crag]

use drop rate and card drop rate cards, all you have to do afterward is hit the node you want the card for using vman preferably since better card drop rate

if your vman got the efficiency for it might was well check if transfusion allow you to get more exp out of the card farming process

[wicked monolith]

Would anybody care to assist a tad? I seem to be stuck here and literally not able to do much.

[feral hearth]

I got stuck there too and maxed out my damage cards and managed to squeak through

[wicked monolith]

At the minute, I feel, I've reached as far with my main pusher as I could dmg wise.

Hmmm

[sharp bobcat]

are cards obtainable actively or do I have to afk? (for skilling)

[echo crag]

afk only

[sharp bobcat]

aight ty

[feral hearth]

the boss can't get over 100% hp, so don't feel rushed to figure it out. I would check through everything you can without leaving that map, i.e. cards, obols, and maybe even talent resets

[wicked monolith]

I suppose, I'll need my Poisonous Mage levelled up properly for this.

[royal bear]

why so many kills to unlock boss 😭

[echo crag]

es or dk are the one the can do it the easiest and with a lot less dmg required. while bubo has the aoe to do it rather easily it need more dmg for poison to kill the moles fast enough

[sharp bobcat]

you don't need allat for boss

[feral hearth]

boss unlocks when you get a key drop, that's just the quest

[royal bear]

whats the chance for key?

[feral hearth]

might find that in drop rate stats

[fickle cave]

Is this a good obal set

[royal bear]

if i can kill kattlekruck i will have went through all of w5 in like a week

[fickle cave]

Nice good for you

Is this a good obal set for kattlekruck nightmare

[royal bear]

i got the 1/2m drop before the key drop

crazy

[daring prism]

This is a standard point to get stuck, gotta go back and do stamps, alchemy, cards, hole, rift, owl/fish, gold food/weapon power food, basically anything you neglected while hard pushing w5

[shell python]

How

Iam currently at molti, and me es only has 6m dmg

[royal bear]

rings in gem shop + like 50~ hours worth of time candy

although i prob should have waited since i need to like triple my damge to kill the boss

[clever niche]

I'm just trying to get to level 70 to get my fifth character so then I can actually do stuff

[royal bear]

ima just slow down and work on alchemy/stamps

[clever niche]

Smart. I should probably do the same

[magic crypt]

2 more pop obols minimum
(knowing my luck it will be 6)

[main quarry]

bro, killing 300 bosses a day is even worse now that you have to wait few more seconds after killing and looting

[lyric glen]

I'm trying to remember.. Is the rule:
Farming for something on main loot drop table: ES/anyone else
Farming for something from rare drop tables: DK

Right?

[main quarry]

i actually dont understand why make the game worse

[novel mural]

[errant pond]

Makes it harder for f2p players to get gems so he makes more money

Its that simple

[zinc berry]

in fear of this being asked before, butt can't find the info anywhere; Is there a bug with divinity points not going up? Mine's stayed the same for weeks and characters are indeed generating points.

you got a free extra t in the but

[bleak gazelle]

you're getting afk gains where it says both Div EXP and Div Pts, correct?

there are two styles that only give exp and no points

[bleak gazelle]

okay and are all those characters either on the altar or in lab with goat?

[zinc berry]

I'm dooted, so it shouldn't matter, right?

[bleak gazelle]

goat and bear don't work together for free div progress

have to still be on the altar or in lab

[zinc berry]

oh okay..

doesn't make sense that it would say that i get 106m/hr then...

[bleak gazelle]

it was a recent change with goat display since it used to only show up if you were physically on the altar, so for non-dooted folks was kind of annoying to see who was actually getting points

[zinc berry]

ooh okay. Thanks for the explanation.

makes more sense

[stark badger]

anyone with a charactaer whose name starts with P, please?

[novel mural]

ace, do you think I should save my w5 statues for onyx or deposit them and farm them later with DK? since I'm CCing at wurms with choco chip

[bleak gazelle]

what level are they currently?

[novel mural]

lemme check IT

[bleak gazelle]

if you need those bonuses now, go ahead, you'll get plenty. otherwise you can hold off

decent enough levels for now i'd say

[novel mural]

sailing speed would be nice, ngl, trying to hardfarm crystal steak rn, no luck so far

and I gotta say, money is really good at wurms, I think I'll be able to buy the next tome upgrade soon

[bleak gazelle]

go candy some more gmush

[novel mural]

do I do that with bm?

or bb

I wonder who has better afk kill/hr

[bleak gazelle]

check bb and sb

[echo crag]

its never a bad use of candy

[bleak gazelle]

sb will give you forge progress, but bb may give you more raw kph atm

[echo crag]

i mean getting some more kill on the bb would be an early start on wow XD

[novel mural]

thats a good point

oh damn, black diamond rhinestone on 13th February

10k starfield spice

[manic gyro]

should I?

[bleak gazelle]

good loot value

[manic gyro]

true true

[lyric glen]

Do you get exp from Tranqi if the window's open on that specific char? o.O

[uneven jacinth]

do you guys have pop obols on all characters?

or just family? and bronze or silver?

i have all the family slots filled with bronze, just trying to figure out how many more i should grind out

[gleaming lodge]

what is this ?

[spring goblet]

Gaming bits

[gleaming lodge]

thanks

[spring goblet]

Silver for both and for family most everyone stacks DR

[uneven jacinth]

in all slots i assume?

like for characters, all slots are silver POPs?

[echo crag]

all circle are rerolled silver pop, all square/hex/sparkle are rerolled dice

[spring goblet]

Well just the circle ones and you get the dice from w2 for gold for squares

[uneven jacinth]

got it. and last dumb question, what do you mean by re-rolled silver pop?

[echo crag]

you reroll them to get +1% max dr

do so when at their lowest obtenable grade so its cheaper

so bronze for pops and silver for dices

[uneven jacinth]

so i re-roll bronze ones to go from +2% DR to +3%?

[echo crag]

and when upgrading them only the one in the left slot need to be rerolled

[uneven jacinth]

10-4. that helps a ton. ty.

[spring goblet]

Well wish I would have known that also, lol

[echo crag]

i'd say its all on the wiki, but....

[uneven jacinth]

yea the last 48-72 hours without wiki is tough on me lol

[spring goblet]

Wiki is half ass most the time anyways for me atleast