#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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whats with po boxes ?
go spend them
my cards are ok
then go kill boss 
thanks alot for everything
ace does dr affect class xp
yes, cause more dr = more money = more stamp levels for exp pots 
so it doesnt
Ask about class xp, get answer with money
@bleak gazelle this optimal for exp?
swap moon with poop
no way thats better
test both out. they already did and trickz says moon is better 
crystals are so juicy tho
cant argue with trickz ig i switched em
if a character is linked to bear and I move them to lab do they exp or do I need to unlink for them to gain exp?
i believe you should gain xp. ideally you'd swap to goat if you have it though, otherwise snake
Does Nobisect effect materials or just kills?
kills
Indirectly - nobi will increase your dmg which might bump you a Mk tier for more materials. But it doesnt do it directly
Affect
@bleak gazelle I got a new relic and 4 new crops yesterday is that good for me?
more stuff is always good 
@bleak gazelle going yo be very hot here today @bleak gazelle
ace is this the setup gearwise? didnt see a xp trophy
the gear increases are going to be so minor it doesn't really matter, but sure
where's your trailblazer 
its xp from monsters isnt that a different multi
also for normal bone grinding is all mob respawn chips good?
ye ik i mean if its a different multi then its not minor it matters
star sign and pendant doubler are better. keychain if you have one that's better than 10%
i have no idea
lava probably has no idea either
sadly i have only one of these
what star signs should i have on
where are they
come on man, you're being as bad as that guy before
lmao
there's one on bottom left blue page and bottom right red page
i fell off, prime me would be worse then guy before
wait thats only +6%
yeah, so doubling only gives +6%
which is bigger than 10
so its worse
ah, you're right. tell all those endgamers too
smh them not catching that
tbh though, with high enough tomb level the bit of respawn doesn't make too much of a difference
idk if ur being ironic or not but regardless i dont have enough aura to say anything to any endgamer
he knows
well, for xp i'd do something like that then
and whats a good level to stop the grind at?
u underestimate urself
no i overestimate endgamers
What should I do after I am done with the divinity/lab lvl grind???
After lab 75 and div 40 you could unlock omni and purrmep unless you got them already, else to hole jail it is 
Ty
Go unlock W6?
I assumed he got it already but yeah
After unlocking Justice, how should I spread my opals?
10, 13, 15, 7 are my villager levels
I had 0 10 10 50 (then 60), trying to get all measurer asap then now that I have M10 I put all on engineer
Also damn try getting more opals than that bro 
But thats levels...
Wat?
Tahts my villager levels, not the opal spread
Oh 
i'd probably go engi > measure > conj
Oh right yeah right there lmao welp Iโm illiterate anyway
M9 tho no?
for villager exp at 8 and harp gain at 9 then engi
I can confirm that clumping them into one villager (it costs wishes I know) helps a lot
10 is really long so I wouldnโt recommend going for it at first
I had like 100k on 3 and 150 on explorer and by giving all of them to engineer it had 600k xp/h
i think e14-16 have bonuses that are pretty strong for both hole and account. not really sure which would be better to go first on. can't remember what trickz recommended
E15 gives a ton of sneaking, E16 gives money in justice, I don't remember about E14
i guess he went measurer first, but honestly not sure how strong it is 
14 has 6th bucket and gloomie dr
since he'd also pick up another harp string and variety effect
E15 is also the string gives more per unique string in harp
prio is:
multi > afk > wishes > essence > catching > harp > artifact > villager exp > chance for opal > class exp
Saw that from a guy in gen
isn't artifact kinda bad as u get some levels in it?
I know it caps at x6 but I don't know how fast it scales down
it's a question, I don't know how it scales, maybe it goes up so slowly that even after getting hundreds of thousands of that bonus you sit at x4,
or the exact opposite and in a few levels it softcaps
literally no idea
man, im probably not efficient at all with hole
those caps listed on the wiki are also not taking the Conjuror multi into account, so in-game on your monument that coud go up to 12x
just remember that once you finish all your artis it become useless and plenty of people got all sovereigns before it came out, so I probably wouldn't take any tbh
You might know more than me I have no idea as well
3gods in one day ~ gone from lab 550 to 901 in one day too \0/
For lab do i want overall level 2100?
yes, though that's normally a bit of a longer term goal once you've made some progress in w6
jade empo upgrade that gives one jewel per 700 level
also gz
oh, i didn't look at the crop. yeah, go for it
I've gotten most meals giving lab exp and rift boost exp so levels are easy now ^^
this normal for first justice run? lol
Pffff lucky!!!
damn you just got all he opals I ever got since I unlocked justice
Is it worthwhile to replace a level 7 captain with a new one that has 6% better base loot gain?
hmm idk if it was a speed captain I'd go for it
also you got all artifact or no because based on your sailing progression early-late/end you'd want to prio speed more in early than where in late/end its loot I reckon
I don't have all the artifacts yet. I have 3 clouds left to uncover, but some of my ships are still a little on the slow side to reach all the way over there.
I'd go for it maybe yeah
I have all the artifacts that I currently have access to, most of which are ancient now
cloud disc?
cloud discovery rate
Oh, discovery rate
Ya, never been that interested in it. Useless when there's no cloud after all. Most of my captains don't have cloud discovery currently, but a few I haven't managed to find a good replacement for yet.
All 4 hirable captains for me today have at least 1 of their traits being cloud discovery. Very annoying.
I reckon base cloud discovery without bonus is 5% so you'd want your fastest boat with double speed usually to go to clouded island
happens, most of the time now I just have low ranked captains and/or shitty one with one stats only 
My first slot boat has the highest speed, at least when combined with the current captain who has boat speed and cloud discovery.
yeah usually its first boat that is the fastest as it costs gold and thats easy to get
I was so excited when I first saw one of those void-genie like captains, just for it to have both traits be cloud discovery.
out of the 5 (that I can remember) I've seen so far, one had cloud discovery, one had only one trait, 2 didn't have speed and last had speed and a good trait so bought it
Not sure how many I've seen by now, but I have one with a single but high trait in loot value and a second with loot value and rare chest chance.
A few times I've seen one of them with actually lower base stats than all my lower class captains
are temur worms still metaa for bubo c-cooking?
who's the hottest class
bb
@bleak gazelle want the heat from here? Will be 100f today here
doing my first Justice. Any tips?
Could always read wiki about cavern and justice to know what each thing will do but bit late for that I guess
I had asked the other day about my slab missing stuff. The count dropped like 100+ items. Someone said it was a glitch that might have got fixed but I went through today and tons of items I already had are missing...Like crude oil? Potent potions. Rex ring is missing even though I have serrated rex ring. Anyone else notice stuff gone?
Just checked mine on both IT and in-game and don't see anything missing that shouldn't be 
A lot of store bought vendor stuff is missing from mine...rebuying stuff to get my count up but rex ring wont show up and I think some keychains I had are missing ๐ฆ
Ingame slab counted some items more than it shouldโve been
Somewhat of a recap of the bug
For the missing items you own are you sure you dropped them and picked them back up after?
I'm sure I had them. It just seems a lot of vendor stuff is missing. All the potent potions, tarantulight, crude oil, sculpting tool
Still going through and seeing what Im missing
Golden Dubloon...yeah it's a lot of just vendor stuff. Easy to get back but rex ring and some keychains are missing
My card packs are missing too... lol
oh, those are an 
I forgot to upgrade my atom and got to snail 17 just to reset to 10

I not gotten snail yet
whats the masterlist
I can help 
WHAT IST IT
wher can i find it
click
Is there any google calc or place i can check optimal setup for dawg den hole?
Short answer: no.
Long answer: you just cap everything but dmg and acc (can cap acc if yours is high enough)
capping everything else sounds like suicide, like spawning dogs with 9999x hp&dmg, 999999x manacost etc
A lot of us are at a point where most of the negatives out vastly outscaled by positive of an increased multi. And when dogs scale to point where you cant kill - it wont matter either way
Its why there is no โcalcโ cause its irrelevant
A lot of high score is getting good rng of no spawns late and all early when the large dogs are killable still
when i max "chance to spawn dog with 100x dmg" i just die from any dog hit lol
maybe i gotta go lower dmg on them
cuz i have no clue how people kill this
It sounds like you are still fairly new. Realize that the higher levels of hole is aimed at folks who have cleared w6. Dont expect to be able to match that progress if you arent there yet
For instance, my dmg is in QQ-QQQ range and its good enough for 13th opal. 14th opal is hard wall for most folks and requires a lot of rng to get
yeh i guess ill just live with having only 8 opals for now
8 opals with only those amplifiers is good - dont despair
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Should I skip Lustre gear and farm for kruk?
Don't even have the recipes yet I think
I.. didn't really think to ask til now. The curse here, -y%, is it multiplicative or additive? And, does 'All' affect w4 and onwards skills?
It's additive, which is why it's recommended
You can generally assume that anything that says "all xp/eff" in regards to skill is only for w1-3
Aite, ty. Saw on reddit, just wanted to double check.
And aite. I didn't wanna mess with my lab/div grind and would prefer the exp currently. Thanks o7
this is one of the exceptions. and I think Skilled Dimwit prayer raises Lab Eff but doesn't affect the XP? Might be thinking of something else
I believe you on this one for Skilled Dimwit. Used it to sneak out a couple more inches for lab.
!merit5
1๏ธโฃ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2๏ธโฃ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4๏ธโฃ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5๏ธโฃ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
โ๏ธ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
โ๏ธ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
Heads up, if it's a command, please try to use #bot-commands .
Oh, oops, ty
Thoughts on how to spend these? form of a giant mega ribbon or spread them out
(all meals unlocked except for the last)
probably spread them over meal lvl id think but not sure
why am i doing the knock out challenge for db and its not counting
I think it's best to form a mega ribbon and boost your best food/s
and i personally put it on gold food bonus meal
I did a bit of that and a bit of spreading yeah, still got some gold pocket watches left
I'm early cooking so I put some on cabagge
Put them on gfood effect

Only a lvl 1/2?
more to come 
Just keep upgrading that one top priority
Golden food farming seems like a pain
I should focus gold food farming for a bit
To unlock the magic beans thing
torn between statues, CC, and gold food 
Is unlocking Infinite Star Sign from rift useless, if I don't have the lvl 40 Breeding thingy to get shinies? (I'm also early W6 and not lvl 40 yet, idk if thats an issue and I'm doing something wrong)
kebabs would go crazy
Woops this is a W4 thign not 5 lol oops
you get the first few
Which ones? Wiki has almost 0 info on this lol
I'm on the same boat, lvl 37 breeding
if you're early w4, I'd say don't worry too much about rift
Just worry about getting to w5
Early W6* I meant to say, was asking about a W4 feature lol
oh
well yeah then unlock infinite star signs, should be easy enough
They're pretty huge (and youll get shinies unlocked soon enough)
So maybe I'm not optimally leveling breeding somehow
Like should I have lvl 40 breeding to unlock shiny pets by now?
nah man breeding takes forever
I can easily beat rift 11 to get the infinite
do it
until the mining one
ah ok, so this is normal. Is it worth spending ballons and pearls on breeding?
Ah so not great by default XD
dont think you can
But saves me from having to equip the +3 talent point one every time I level
but you should preferably unlock skill mastery
as that is pretty impactful at where you're at
True
It's good to improve rift anyways so I wouldn't shy on it
(and then work on getting to 31 or 41 in a while)
I just got the +100M kills bonus thing and I'm not even close to that on anybody
Will be there waiting once I get it
the eclipse skulls?
I get the same amount of grey genes from hatching and trashing a pet regardless of which pet right? Or is there a strategy to farm these in particular
yeah, probably
I do know about the Cavern bonus to increase them
all pets give the same, except shinies give marginally more when recycled
?
oh I guess at the lamp? not sure what the w4 wish does didnt really go for it
I meant this
ngl I have not noticed that since unlocking it 
And all pets take the same time to hatch, so completely irrelevant which pet yo udo it on?
im at like some amount of billions of gravel too
I don't blame you cuz I had to like, make a list of what every music note and ore did to know which ones did what.
Not including stuff you buy with them (I have that in my version of the list but removed it here cuz I delete the entires I already purchased) these are what each ore is useful for in the end
Gravel
- โ pow 10โฟ DNA Rock Tumbler (+60% chance to get an additional Grey Gene)
Goldust
- โ pow 10โฟ True Golden Edge (+20% Damage)
Redstone
- โ pow 10โฟ Heavy Redstone Seasoning (1.30x Cooking Speed bonus)
Mythril
- โ meas lots Measurement (+% Villager EXP Gain per Tome Score)
Cobaltine
- โ meas lots Measurement (+% Bell Ring & Ping Rate per Deathnote PTS)
Bruntine
- โ meas lots Measurement (+% Bucket Fill Rate per Highest Damage Dealt)
Freezium
- โ meas lots Measurement (+% Villager EXP Gain per Slab Items)
Sweetium
- โ meas lots Measurement (+% Multikill Per Tier per Gloomie Mushroom Kills)
So the Meas ones you spend, and the Pow ones you need to have as many unspent ones as possible. Measurement ones are never also Pow (same for music notes) so don't worry about spending them on Measurement. But the Pow ones are used for unlocking new upgrades at the Engineer, so keep in mind if your Pow buff will go down if you spend them
^And ditto if you bucket for more of them, since reaching the cap will ofc reset you to 0, so the Pow buff will be set back to 0 for a bit
this is more effort than Ive ever put into mathing out idleon, but respect very nice to see it laid out like this
'
So for the ores, first 3 are Pow and the rest are all Meas. That's not the case for the Notes. It's more spread around, almost every other one but sometimes there's 2 of the same in a row
Thanks I'm unironically very autistic and a computer scientist, so I'm used to doing this for the most unserious things XD
Does this get affected by the atom buff?
I have not yet unlocked the Atom so I'm not super sure how it works and don't remember what the buffs from it are
Wiki doesn't mention Cavern stuff, it's possible it is affected and just not listed (whether it's intended to work with it or not), but the wording of the description makes me think it intentionally does not work with it
I unlocked it during W5 somehow
I'm ngl I don't think my gear setup in construction is optimal at all, so you might be the normal one not me
I went to check and it says talents so I guess it doesn't apply
Oh yeah I was trying to say that in my above message but I guess I left out the word talents XD
Finally!!
Now to get ๐ข
They told me the hardest part about getting troll amor was the grey salts but it's getting those rare drops๐ญ
I'll never get the full amor for my family at this pace ๐ฎโ๐จ
Fr fr grey salts is easier
Me when I lie
O.O what's your dr?
rip you lol
is that low?
you should go farm pop obols before any of the troll stuff
pop...what?
x3 is omega low
Oh 
Full set on the obol slab and max tier aswell
I have x7 on everybody
Chilling with 6x
that's much more than me!
how much faster do i get the pearler shells with 7ร?
What cards do u use and do u have the talent
what's the talent
And I haven't even farmed pop obols that much
diamond max boop boxes and mimic gold
yes!
This is also decent boost to dr
is it right that for example
2x drop rate makes a 1 in 20k
to 1 in 10k?
O.O
Pop obol farm on gigafrogs and dr Dice on sandcastles will boost your dr alot
I'll go straight at it!!
U should have these
Oh and the owl on w1 gives alot.
15 nahhh bro
dw about owly
6 of 8 at gigafrogs!
I'll get that drop rate
I thought my prints would skyrocket with Vman but it only got to like 70K green spores / hour
ahhh you used it wrong probably
most likely
Maybe I took the sample while not auto-on? Does that affect it?
Did you kill as much bosses as you can in a speedrun and then sample?
wrong too tf?
Bosses give spawn rate
if you use his ability WHILE speedrunning you get +multikill
when you have that effect on sample
you get (if maxed) +1300 mulltikill
And yes only works on mob loot
yw๐
Do I swap to G now? I was using C last time
Oh wait I need to take the sample while the effect is active?
both speedrun and his /kill @e
I'm probably dumb
During the speedrun yes

now go do speedrun and do that at spores
you'll be happy!
Is G the one that gives all exp?
ah used it already?
ye
ye
you should level E it's useful
- harp power per hour what would you not want about that
oh I didnt read the bottom part of it lol ye i'll do it
I guess like this then so I can levle up the others too
If you want exp, do all G. If you want notes, do every type once and then c. If you donโt have the schematic, just do C while having a few strings getting string type exp
I'll take note of that thx
the hole monuments are such a pain
all characters doing nothing for 2 weeks for the bare minimum 750 hours
still better than divinity
It will become a little more bearable after you get monument afk% bonus
where is that bonus
Gets over twice as fast
Endless summoning and also if you get into late waves of justice or bravery it becomes a reward option
Do you have 3 characters?
because with 10 characters it'd be 3360 hours
in two weeks
Not so slow now huh?
I just got the cooking speed and shiny pet lvl rate wish \0/
Huge boosts
so i barly passed w4 with very bad armors and dmg
like 2m max but less im in w5 and now what can i do i cant even hurt the room6/7 mobs
what equipments and wepons u guys suggest im devine knight
citrings have like 250m hp im only dealing 13m when crit
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upgrade your armor to void or chiz, weapon to void too, better tools = more free stats, equip full speed pot and dmg pot, try to book your talents higher unless its around your max, 4 cards is your max? try working on post office do daily orders to get points and please for the love of god ||(lava)|| upgrade your stamps and bubbles like holy jesus that is lacking you're missing on so much good stats from alchemy
fmj and shaqu not even above level 10 
and also stop doing lab grind and go do div instead
it has so much good things to help you
lab hhas bunch of good shit tho
second god of div make your character always active in the lab mainframe but they don't gain exp, its like remote connection
third one is x2 kill count
you want those asap and eventually your goal should be to get the 5th god which make it so when your char are in lab they are counter as afk for div too so 2 in 1, thats when you go back in lab (with that god equiped ofc)
i set my es to buff other caracters too
also try looking a bit at the hole and do it, it has some good bonus like pocket divinity (if you don't have doot) where you can link 1 (or 2 if upgraded) god to all char
with its tallents for xp and stuff
yep should've done as soon as you got to w5
if you want there's that to read for more info about div #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
also start the caverns they have good buffs
i did like 30min
ill go back to it
now do more than 30
can i boost my div level by black pearls
or any other items like candy
my trapping sucks ass i gotta do that as well
dare I say both trapping and worship should be worked on
i have to try to unlock that drone
get better skulls and traps tier to make things easier
saw that
get gold tools at least as its very easy to get your char to skill lvl 15, 30ish for dem tools maybe
why i get skill xp on caracters like mage with mining i dont mine with mage anyways so dont just gotta focuse chopping only on that?
or only mining and fishing with bb and dk
and catcing with my future hunter
because tools are cool
skill level give talent point every few levels, can equip better tools for free stats
and endgame tools like godshard give hella good stats like drop rate
sol ike my pickaxe affect my loot of mobs?
you surely don't want to miss those free stats when you're struggling mid w5
Finally got a good enough FF run.. I can craft anvil tab 4 and void stuff now
not yours right now but last pickaxe craftable yes, it gives drop rate, tools before godshard give %money bonus I reckon
another thing
I doubt it makes a difference until w6, my ES had no proper tools and snuck into w6 
oh no you will see the difference I tell you
how i get more than 125 level limit?
like the tallents
ohh books
i have 375 dk
I'm starting to grind tools for sure but uhh.. still went from w4 to 6 in 2 weeks with a well undergeared ES
ik that and i alr have most books maxed
gotta have some random bonus that increase max book level from library here and there
375 DK??
(+ endless summoning)
class level
yeah
Thought it was talent levels ngl

though it was but remembered it was barely 130 max when he shared his IE
i kinda was off for like 1 and a half years
when 300...
Nice first char name, have fun typing that out
I can remember it..
i gained to like 370 from that
My account level was 1200 at the start of the week 
I also ramped up my stamps a bit this week. Managed to hit 2.7k without having to use ES to get mob drops (800 stamp level in w6 is cursed)
get to 5k you're in w6 now
yeah slowly, my alch still has to catch up so I have decent prints
4k maybe should be easy target
My eyes burn staring at liquid regen, yet to get good CCs
dont remind me 
i gotta redo my prints this week with golden food bonus from ballot
ill grind like 2hr and get 160 max level
after just that i guess my dmg will at least go up 50%
ahh shit i can make a new car
it was at like 1000 level im at 1428 and i didnt knew
fuck
@faint wigeon sry for tag but what class i go with with new caracter?
i can go archer bc i dont have an hunter yet
but what u think
hunter it is
:(
?
Can I sample equinox resource?
Hi, there is a max bonus we can have in the monument ? i didnt see the next bonus ping and bell pop up when i choose him ๐ข
I explained myself, i won a bonus with PIng and bell rate but i didnt see him pop up in the bonus list, that is normal or i dont win this bonus when i finish the monument run ? ๐ข
yes
Anyone know off hand how much damage you should have for nightmare kattlekruk on Vman?
update: 5T was enough
5T was greatly exaggerated
I'm pretty sure you can
not can but should 
and the answer is yes 
Start of w5, king doot pet, all characters divinity lvl2 - do i park in lab or altar
lab
u still at uni?
no
u at home
ye
wanna game with the extremely sleep deprived me?
So Bravery monument can never lead to anything that helps Cooking new-recipe discovery right? Unless this version of cooking speed applies to that too, or there's some other hidden mechanic that uses cooking speed later? I have a feeling there isn't and that's it but thought I'd ask just in case
I think this cooking speed boost anything cooking related so new meal recipe as well
Just got the Snail, how do one obtain the mail?
in pins, ES around 30M DK 35M
doubt, not sure tho
daily reset
Gotcha, thank you dearly
OK COOL I'M SO GLAD I ASKED ๐
ludwig said to doubt it
tho you could always try to see a before and after bravery run new meal speed
es lowest because his nuke every 4 seconds
lava made farming kruk annoying 
Got to w5 rn dont know what do
Keep playing the game? 
@peak verge tnx XD
Is bonus golden balls still active?
wait is there new balls rotation?
Very much so. 
removing golden balls is a little update or he can do that while people are ingame too?
In game.
damn
Can't outversion your way out of it kek.
It's not what you think I swear
oh nvm
Like they said Divinity Jail. But here's some context of how divinity works and what you're aiming for:
- You wanna unlock the Bear god asap and link everyone to that. The bear god makes it so everyone is still considered inside the lab (for the purpose of keeping features, not making lab progress). It's the second god so hopefully shouldn't take long
- You afk to gain divinity to spend to gamble on trying to get a new god. There's a left handside and right hand side gamble option. Left hand side can go as low as 1 and right hand side can go as high as 100. Every time you spend divinity to buy any of the chances, there's a chance the options (even the one you didn't pick) changes. So the start is to save for and buy 100% if it's there (50% won't feel like 50%), or buy the low tier (left hand side options) until the right hand side becomes 100%. Way way later when you have a lot of gods and they get expensive, then some people might switch to gambling cheaper percentages
- You want everyone (except maybe a pusher) in your divinity jail. As they level up they will learn new Styles, you want to get everyone to lvl 15 divinity to give them the "Mantra" style. This style buffs all the other players in divinity too and it stacks, so it'll help all your players level up fast. Do this til everyone's lvl 25, so they unlocked the Vitalic style to use instead.
- Way later on you can earn the Goat god but it's a few gods in so it's expensive and takes long. It makes it so if your characters are in Lab, tehy also count as being in Divinity and do progress both mods. (Like actually afk in Lab, not in Lab via the bear)
So tldr:
- Div jail, unlock bear
- When you unlock a new style on level up, switch to it right away, but not past the lvl 15 style. Use the lvl 15 style and don't use higher styles
- Once everyone is lvl 25, then you can switch styles
Also check your W5 world map, there's "the caverns" and you can teleport there already to get started on that huge game system
holy wall of text
Ye uwu
was wondering what he was writing for a moment
1st draft for my novel
@digital lava tnx man
Mostly advice I wish I got / had easily accesible when I first got to W5 tbh, found out I could have gone to Caverns way too late XD
Could've just linked the divinity primer for all that effort. ๐ญ
Div jail is less depressing if you know what your goal is, what you're working for
he's the supreme yapper
But before that how much dmg lvl and other things i need?
I'ma be for real idk if I know about that XD
typo in 4th point, tehy
people never read pins 
Bro ama with dementia i need to know
pinned msgs are a hell of a drug
something something, give a man an answer, he'll be wise for 10 minutes
Teach him where to find the answers and he'll be wise for... well probably at least 15 minutes
Something, something, something, dark side.
not that im complaining or anything but why do justice hours work this way
monument afk % bonus from summoning/justice/bravery
holy mother of god tf am i reading the bible
How to get the other lanterns artifacts? The isle only has one
jade emporium
And there i am to my Main Problem of having too low jade/hr xD need to do the pet battles but nothing works there really...
Just unlocked the chemical plant in gaming any strategies to maximize bit gains?
Hm okay, so I kinda wanna pick out everything but chemicals (and maybe cacti) to get like a chain reaction in time skips
harvest all will ignore chems, btw
Oh that's nice
Are there any sailing guides that will clue me in on how to start breaking into Island 9 and get the Fury artifact? I'm kinda stuck just upgrading boat speeds and getting better captains right now.
!guide has a decent selection of stuff that boosts sailing speed/arti chance
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Or you can always use Insight
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=sailing.*(sp.*d|progress)
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Thank you once more ๐ซก
I'd be fine with sending anything in the 4 hour range to fury
I don't even wanna say how long it was taking for me. I think my sailing is kinda fucked, I gotta fix it.
If you check less often then longer times are fine, but if you're sending ships that are taking 12-24 hours (or 96, ya know
), usually best to just send them to earlier islands to upgrade boats
I think that has to be my priority right now, just upgrading boats for like a week or so. It was taking me days to do a one-way trip to the Cloud.
yeah that ain't it 
yeah I was and still am desperate for the artifact.
@digital lava dont really care but thats a lot for someone eho doesn't read
how i do this
you hit him
Is this a serious question?
Unlike other people who joked about how long I wrote, including me, you went a rude route. What I wrote was much shorter than the pinned post and explains mechanics in an order that is relevant without including stuff they don't need rn. And I'm literally just helping a new player to W5. Chill
Idc if you don't care, don't be hostile, I won't respond again
While getting pop obols should I just keep it bronze or go to silver or upgrade the bronze to the max drop percentage it can go which is 4 I m assuming
fill all to bronze and reroll them, then start upgrading
you fill your board with rolled bronze (3%) and then up them to silver (4%)
Kapra, modern education systems have failed people and illiteracy is at a century-long high. You need to be succinct when explaining stuff.
Kapra forgot to add the subway surfers clip
Ngl I read through the pinned message, and I think it does a good job of explaining divinity. But not telling people what to do when they just got here and want to know where to go and why
wha?
I think what I maybe should've done differently is, started with the tldr, instead of putting it at the bottom
and said "skip the rest of the message if you dont' care about the why"
This is about as much information as people can handle Anything more and their brains melt, because their brains haven't developed.
I'm keeping this from some days ago because it was a peak interaction.
Bluey failed this generation.
Na bluey generation isn't ready for complex idlegames. They'll redeem the current generation when its their time
That one premiered on 2018. I was gonna say Cocomelon but that's the future gen. Current gen has been cooked earlier than bluey.
Paw patrol failed this generation 
i am not being hostile i dont normally read things people send if its longer then 3 lines and 1 im not being rude its a simple joke ive seen shit that longer and said the same thing
even when being taught to me in the form of a 3 year old
can someone look at my idleon effiiciancy and tell me how to get more dammage for w5 boss, im at a loss
On what character
whats the best class to kill it? bb is my favorite right now he heas about 12m
ES/DK
BB struggle with w5 boss
thank you for that
Because you still have w2 gear on most of your characters.
will gearing really help push damage to 30m on es?
No one thing will help you get to 30M but a bunch of things added up together will.
is gearing the thing i should focus the most?
Did you use scoli?
scoli?
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!review
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^ It should tell you what to focus on next.
not that I couldn't predict what it's gonna roast you on the most but still
alchy is forever roasting
Ehh... after a while alchemy is just "I already have enough for everything that's currently in game so I'm just preparing ahead" at which point imo it doesn't matter all that much.
so the goal of using the tool is to see whats rated the lowest and increase the tier of the lowest rated things?
kinda, but you still need to concider how easy that lowest rating thing is to improve for you compared to some other stuff
so its a guide to see where im lacking really?
basically 
Yes but if it's timegated stuff like salts where you just have to wait it out, you can skip on some and do the ones you can focus on actively.
thank you
Get your guys off sigils before I have an anneurism.
102 days 
Ignore sigils until you're done with Summoning in W6. Keep them in the coloured cauldrons.
this shit is still taking forever
fucking tell me about it
I got jade coin to gold during that week with sigil multi from ballot.
almost done with the most important ones
yeah it takes forever
one day
you at least almost done with the good ones ace
soon 
can someone carry me through all the Dungeon equinox stuff
mat farming on ES for equinox gs 
I just realized that this challenge is so ass without ram, hoooooly
you can still use telekenetic storage, even tho it will delete all the stuff left on the ground
also make sure to unlock and use ruck sack prayer
I'm trying to push for the tower damage buff in equinox
dont wanna attempt any more before that
is rucksack from acorn td?
yeah acorn 111
big sigil gamer 
ruck sack pretty much make es go from fill bag in 2 min to may last few hours if you got proper work done on matty bag
o.o .. why?
At what point are you 'done' with Summoning? And, is the idea to focus on unlocking all cauldron bubbles instead of wasting them on sigil gains?
you get a lot of sigil speed from summoning
That and because he didn't even have w4 bubbles properly unlocked.
what would be a good place to farm for lucky lad?
Is there a way to send all boats to a single island quickly without dragging each one?
@bleak gazelle got last night
nice 
in general? crystal farming on DK should get you more than you'll care for
for vman - mining any of the last few ores or chopping like tropilogs i think?
alright thanks
will challenging the colony in cavern 9 make it harder to earn statues
only thing that changes is amount to kill for next layer and boss mob hp
It should make it easier due to the drop rate gain.
@gilded sedge you were right about starsign respawn until you get to level 100 summoning, then the big Seraph sign will cause star sign to be slightly better at 10.6% and get better
Is there any reason to do sailing daily if you found all artifacts severenity? I still do it, but don't know for what lol
Get your boats to 300 to be ready for the next tier of artifacts... whenever Lava makes them.
Hourly clicks on big P are viable ๐
Since the wiki is down:
Which mobs from W5 do the recipes for magma helmet and boots drop from?
all i remember is that its not slugma
check the anvil tab and click on the ? that match the position of the item you want
just remembered that lava added that to crafting
Other than symbols of Beyond and Oxygen. Is there anything else increases minimum talent level?
cheese to purgatory (the ones with dust bugs) drop armor I think from helmet to boots, citrige to fire spirt weapons (except fists)
Thank you!
how can i level up the same thing in hole majik?
get 3rd blue upgrade
ok thanks
how did you guys get the suggma recipe because i have 11x drop chance and i have killed over 700 million of them and i still havent gotten it, any tips?
wait for more DR
your deathnote/card kills take MK/KPK into consideration which don't affect rare drops like the recipe
I have ___ kills on Suggmas. Why haven't I gotten the recipe yet?
Understand that DN count includes MK, KPK, and other multis which aren't accounted for when you go for loot. Loot is based on base kills so you have to factor all those out. Generally, a good comparison is to look at the number of Royal Urn drops you have. On average, most get it around 1K urns collected (or roughly 1B DN kills if you insist on using this count as a measure).
the gloves aren't super important and if you're only at 11x, there are plenty of other things you can work on
How do the gaming talents for DK work with multiple dks?
All account-wide talents will only consider the highest level version that is on an active preset
not sure
he just said wednesday, no specific time
Is there a quick fix for dying to crystal mobs in early w5? i got big health pot and good food but not enough accuracy
not really, just get more accuracy and use more healing food, probably more important than the small bonuses that gold will give you at small stack sizes
fair so just triple stack food and pray?
yep and go back and work on owl/roo/alch/stamps
Yeah im grinding up the bubo already, liquid locked rn
i am on world 5 and only have crafting tab 3 in the anvil is that a problem?
pretty normal
Nope. I got anvil 4 unlocked when I got to w6. As long as you do the Hole and progress your account, you should be fine to complete w5 in Chizoar helm/chest and void pants/boots.
Emphasis on doing the Hole.
if you can get tab 4 great, but not necessary
whats my play here, talent guide says symbols but im still skeptical
are your lightning/bolt max booked? if so, doesn't matter too much, could throw a few more into t5 for more auto attack procs
go book those two then 
throw some books on the lightning and purple fireball 
just one each or do i try for a high roll checkout
worth to do a few, those are your main damage sources
is this only for active right?
yes, bones are only from active play
how many crystal monsters spawn in a day at crystal island?
depends on how many days u log in
and without visiting
the more days the more they spawn like the spawnable mini bosses
He asked in the question "in a day" as in a singular day.
I think ~5 per day.
i never understood what dis guy do
your popularity will never go under 5
(it will dip down to 4 at some times, but it will bounce back to 5)
very good buff to have tbh
if i take multiple do i get it to 10 etc?
no i'm pretty sure you dont
but you should always want fizzy drinks
because if you get 3 fizzy drinks the bean king comes out and rewards you with popularity and coins
oh realy it works like that? cool
Hello, maybe someone here can help me with my question. I unlocked the second god in World 5 and activated the pet 'King Doot.' However, my characters are still not connected to the lab. What am I doing wrong?
Oh, thatโs exactly it! Thank you so much for the quick response!
How can I tell max number of Sailing chests I can have?
easiest way is just to check IE/IT
max you can have is 30, Eldritch and Sov dreamcatcher artifact don't provide any extra
Perfect thank you!
Is cruk set easy to craft? I cant check wiki๐ญ
you neeed magma gear, kurk tooth and cavity kruk tooth
@bleak gazelle they will be working on the internet lines in my area tomorrow will the game still work on my laptop when I have no wifi for min 3 hours?
yes if you are already logged in, as long as you dont attempt to cloudsave
@bleak gazelle https://i.imgur.com/TxrfVei.png is this optimal setup for sneaking?
Ty
They are upgrading the lines I think all lines in my area are underground @sly cedar
sometimes u need to have 5 or 6 double lotus depending on the detect chance but that seems good 
What lamp wish is after the w6 stuff
wanna know if I should keep saving but wiki is down and I can't check ๐ญ
i was camping whats the new class
doesn't seem to be anything after w6 for now
death bringer
is it good? does bring something new to killing the poor enemies?
kind of like a ||prestige|| system
u go into "wraith" form and when u kill mobs they drop bones u use to upgrade bonuses from the grimoire
bunch of different upgrades like crop evo, ribbons for meals which gives u more bonus from a meal, opals, land rank db upgrades etc
oh thanks didn't think to use toolbox or efficiency
and sometimes you'll only need 2-3 double lotus buffers 
Wtf happen to my ships?
seems like a bug that's been happening a bit more frequently
granted, since you're still needing artifacts, it probably works out for you
unless you're checking once a day or less
I just got the artifact for the +25 max lvl
Can this be a feature instead of a bug asking for a friend
what, getting fury or having boats in dock? if the latter, make sure unending loot isn't talented 
infinite boats in dock? is that the bug
i've used unending loot after finishing sailing so haven't noticed any bug
same and I had them all just chilling at the dock one day after DB patch
checked again after another afk and it was fine
From what ik i think its caused by that chest with the green vines
anyone know why my 9th character screen is so blurry? it's literally only that character and its only the sprites
check options
bless thank you ๐ i dont even know how it got turned on
everyone please vote for sailing buff this week ๐ญ
i need fury relic
or ima crash out
For ender captains from sailing, what's the requirement to get them? Pure RNG or is there a level to be?
rng
im like early early early game sailing and i still managed to get the purple one
Ah, bless. I got the purple dude for the first time today..
Lol yeah, if you're going for Fury relic we're about the same place.
I'm upgrading all my ships in preparation for the spam. ๐ซก
im just full sending it at an average of like 16 hours lol
ik its not efficient but im impatient
oh no.... ._. Fam. Please go level your ship speeds.
my fastest is 10 hours
๐ Go level them now.
Yeah, but with elephant + lower ship speeds = more loot = more chances
How so?
Lower ship trip times**, more ship speed, my bad.
gummy orb is my fav artifact
the bonus is so nice
and i like gummies and orbs
also gives me nostalgia to angry birds 2
Yeah. I afk pushed w5 on DK while fixing a lot of other stuff with my account. Not deep into w6, only at map 4 in preparation for the master classes.
whats ur highest dmg
Hence, the "avoider" in my server name lol
Erm.. Full DPS setup is 2.5B dmg with Chizoar helm and chest. I'm still on lustre/green weapons as well, and only use the blue dmg rings from rams lol
im 20b full
think a level 50 requirement then RNG (assuming you bought them in jade emp)
also push map after lantern
for magic beans
for land rank and ogs
then ignore w6 till lots of multikill
๐ .. No. I haven't bought them in Jade Emp. Thanks for that. @azure finch , make sure you buy em in Jade Emp too.
alr bet
im still too broke tho lol
im only in the 100ks of gold
my cooking is best part of my acc sadly
No clue what those stuff mean about beans and land ranks ๐ I haven't spoiled myself on info for w6 either, lol.
ok then well
๐ถ
slide me ur it i wanna see ur sailing
i need inspiration
also btw idk what land ranks are either lol
i just saw someone talk about them for like 0.3 sec
I don't have IT ๐ฅฒ My sailing's pretty simple: I'm currently discovering the cloud for the fury relic, and any ship that takes more than 2hrs for it is placed at the island they need for their speed upgrade. I check it roughly every 4ish hours, so I use unending loot.
If I know I'mma be gone for really long, I set my minimum chest to the iron one. After that, nothing too spectacular.
do u have ie
DONT USE UNENDING
minimum chest better honestly
wait also
why dont u have it
if u avoid certain things spoilers shouldnt be a problem
Nerp, I made bad decisions when creating my account so won't be able to use those tools.
wait what happened
is it even possible to do that?
created account using steam?
aint no way
i dont even have access to steam lol
im a mac user and those achievements are making me mad
whats ur username
I know it's ill-advised ๐ฅฒ
wait what happened to it and ie
yeah, but even so, it's more personal reasons than technical reasons. Sorry for not clarifying that.
spoilers im guessing?
bro is typing at negative speed ๐
lmfao I fat fingered >_>
bro mispelling ok
dont respond if yes but are these personal reasons something that is sensitive in ur life?
How many maps into w6 do I need to open to get the 81 mobs for DB
im sorry for ur loss man
none
crystal mobs and colo plus walking through every map is enough
And you can do the w 1 to 5 bosses for extra mobs
i had half w5 unlocked
I walked through every map w1-5 and the first 4 maps of w6 and im at 15
and did it easily
15 left*
colo chests count as mob types too
lol w
Also does the quest reset if you log out bc mine did
relog shouldn't, but if you closed, game might have updated
bro has the tweakiest computer ever
is tier 20 ribbon worth it?
also are u able to drag ribbons on meals with ribbons on them to combine?
good luck getting a 20
yes, you can upgrade directly onto a meal
better to do that then straight up replace
up to you, a lot of options
#1330702925294735360 message
wait isnt attack speed maxed out in late game?
kind of depends on what you're working on and want a bonus* for
for afk yes, no cap on active, but it's a possible minor thing for bone farming. unless you're whaling, I probably wouldn't drop more than a t5/6 ribbon on it
how do you summon dilapidated slush, wiki is borked
where do ya get slush buckets from
craft
I'm new to gaming, do these grow to bigger plants over time, or do I pluck them as often as possible?
recipe idk where tho
how long typically does it take for them to grow to a bigger stage?
if you click on the ? where the slush bucket is in your anvil it should tell you where it drops from
check ur upgrades tab
the fertilizer
it shows each growth cycle
time it taakes
then check mutation tab
it shows chance per cycle
omg 5 mobs left and no col tickets ;-;
crystals?
plus all the bosses and efaunt
ahhh, okay yeah. I mentally blocked out the "...is also 1 growth cycle" part. Stopped right after seeing "Sprouts grow back"
especially efaunt
Ugh I've been stuck for weeks with the same gaming plants, have probably fumbled 20 10% rolls
what plant u on?
I think nextis the berry bush or whatever Is called
berry bush is fire
I dont have it ๐ญ
I GOT IT ๐
My points also suck because of that I think but oh well
gg
Are there any recommendations for where to put talents in
uhh
there is db guide in tips and tricks
search up deathbringer
could you link the channel, it's hidden for me
ask someone else
there is a channel wher u react peanut
i forgot which tho
its under miscellaneous idleon
if u dont see it there
ask someone for the channel wher u get access
is DK at beans the best way to get power statues?
yes
ik mob density low but i also like red mush
cuz 1 platform
but beans better ig
I was farming power statues at big frogs to get the pop obols too
yeah u can do that too
I stopped because I have like 1/110 crystal spawn chance
thinking about how to increase it
is the 6m quest the only way to get the W5 keys? im ready for kruk now and i dont wanna wait a month to get it...
time to doo onyx statues i guess z.z ive put it off for a long time
w5 miniboss or tremor wurm farm 
thank god
ignore top one, that's vman talent
if you want to farm pops at gigafrogs, ES is usually better
????
read the message at the top
how bout the tremor wurms?
those are two maps after moles 
how to get divinity point?
similar to that 2, i got a level up from alchemy that stayed after closing the interface xD
lmao
Hey anyone know a good build to beat the boss?
This is my DK
Would need to level poop and genie cards to 4*
Post office may take a while aswell as shrine
leave characters afk on div altar, early on make sure you wait the full hour
check out ๐ for div guide
what is rifts 31st bonus?
eldritch artis
thanks
@bleak gazelle not working now on iPad was this morning my time
The wiki doesn't work..
.
Any way to prevent atom collider from using my copper ores / leaves / oak logs? Trying to get higher than 1050m for *Power of 10 talents
you have to make new stacks
just place the new (smaller) one in front of the old ones to let prints/deposits fill it
autosort won't merge them
So i just make multiple 1050m stacks?
wont have like fill my entire stash instantly lol
the price you pay for trying to min-max
do you do this? or nah
lawl nah, i don't care nearly enough about this game to even think about sampling more than like 2 times a year 
oh, autosort will move higher stacks before lower stacks, so make sure you manually put the lower ones in front if you want to do this
fk it im gonna live with 1050m lol too big of a hassle to manage this
thx for info tho
honestly with all the efficiency upgrades we'll probably be getting, idek how powerful more stacks are unless your helium is quite high
at least for copper atm, might be worth for chopping
yeah was thinking copper and logs for catching but prolly not worth for me
im just 5/20 helium lol
i mean, if you have a bit enough print it gets a little easier to do
since you can just create another 1 stack on some resources you want and let them be printed by print go brrrr
im already cramped on storage space as it is now
Ye, but it would be an easy way to check the new print value using same setup
To see the actual difference another stack would do
true might do it for sampling later on
You wouldnt need to manually pass 1050m ores/woods that way
Thats my idea anyway xD
I'm sitting at 1.1m damage how can I increase it
Alch, gear, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
Main stat if you have the arti and or bubbles
anyone know of a good guide for finding good farming spots for statues?

