lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[hoary whale]

they just reached w5, so probs not

[hidden thicket]

Went there did 2 opals and left

Smells like dirt

[simple wadi]

Smells like Bravery and Justice with a hint of mushroom.

[peak verge]

Smells delicious once the out-of-hole buffs start coming in.

[hidden thicket]

Ah
Apparently you can mine there

Who knew

[peak verge]

Everyone.

[hidden thicket]

I also found a dead body

But dont worry about it

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-v-see-no-evil-say-no-evil-hear-no-evil-cover-ears-gif-16597557

[pastel kayak]

Bad @bleak gazelle you do ever sleep?

[simple wadi]

Do ~you~? Send pics or it didn't happen

[obsidian hill]

Has someone made a chart for which dogden amps to use based on player stats?

[winged plover]

I can't even get past the first opal ;-;

[idle lava]

Anyone have any tips to gets 100/1000’s of world 5 boss keys. I want to get the cape

[hoary whale]

tremor worms

[spark stone]

ES at wurms

[winged plover]

ok question, how much HP do the wolves at the hole have?

[bleak gazelle]

DK or Bubo are generally better. The minor amount of extra keys you get from ES is so vastly overshadowed by everything else you get from the other two

Here was 1 hour of each, I accidentally deposited statues on ES
Caveat: no crystal cards but yes choco on ES. Prioritized damage, got to about 275 portal count

[hoary whale]

could also do the same on bubo to get a bunch of liquid from Cranium Cooking

and still get all your nice keys

[main tundra]

Uhh i have an issue how do we reset the rune at dog cave thing i may have accidentally over lvl it trying to figure out how to reset and now get annihilated

[hoary whale]

click and hold

[bleak gazelle]

can also scroll wheel it

[main tundra]

I hope that reply aint to me because i tryd that rofl

[bleak gazelle]

select it first, then hold

[hoary whale]

oh maybe that stopped working when the scroll wheel thing was patched it

[main tundra]

Yeah i try to sel3ct and hold it it keep lvling up

I am on phone fyi do no5 no if there is difference with pc

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like a skill issue
did you tap once to highlight/select it, then hold and release to reset? need to hold about 2s

[main tundra]

Maybe phone issue? XD

[bleak gazelle]

always a possibility

[main tundra]

galaxy s24 ultra always missing with me stg

I got ot to work thanks, he should just ad a reset butun would be easier

[devout bough]

do i gotta do the sleppy mole quests before being able to kill boss?

[bleak gazelle]

No, it just gives you keys if you don't have any yet

[devout bough]

every time i try to enter boss it does nothing

[bleak gazelle]

maybe? wiki doesn't say it's required. back when i did it on my first character that was the fastest way to get keys, too so

[echo crag]

the boss does nothing you mean ?

[devout bough]

no like when i click on the boss cave

[echo crag]

cuz kruk does not move and just stand in place summoning moles to heal him

[devout bough]

i cant even get into boss screen

or the option to get into boss

[bleak gazelle]

no pop-up when you click the cave?

cloudsave, restart, reinstall?

[devout bough]

i mean tbf ive been afk for like a year

works now

[main tundra]

How how do you get boss room to take only 1 key?

[bleak gazelle]

select normal difficulty?

[main tundra]

Oww yeah XD

Rofl i was thinking of arenas my bad

Fk tired just got off work 18 hour shift

Stupid fking cows not want to herd into the next field for hours, fking bulls were wanting to tussle

[main tundra]

Thanks for help appreciate it

[steady umbra]

Just unlocked w5. Is it suggested I move all my toons from lab to divinity or is there another suggested split?

[echo crag]

div to unlock bear god which allow you to enable lab nodes while doing other stuff

[steady umbra]

Ooh sweet ty!

[idle lava]

Thats so much more than im getting 😦

[peak verge]

The split should be the same but scaled down due to this.

[winged plover]

Specifically it makes your chars act like they are in lab, but gain no lab XP

[steady umbra]

Ooh, amazing

[quiet minnow]

best place to farm Crystal Capybara? trying OJ map rn

[bleak gazelle]

wurms > ojs

ojs may be slightly better for crystal drops but wurms will give you keys, too

[peak verge]

"Crystal Capybara". Full government name and everything, God damn.

[quiet minnow]

Have a search warrant for him 🤣

[unborn mauve]

do i let gaming plants evolve or harvest asap? i have the fox unlocked

[novel mural]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[buoyant jay]

why my buckets dont increase my limit...

it is on expand full also

[echo crag]

bucket limit only increase while active, so if you went afk for 24h, it will only increase 1 time when you log back in

even if you could have triggered multiple expand

[buoyant jay]

really from when ? i remember my others not like was that

[echo crag]

been like that since day 1 of hole

[hoary whale]

yeh if you're not online the bar will fill but stops full

so you can waste a lot of filling

[bleak gazelle]

the early ones are pretty fast, so your rate was able to keep up with your active play

[buoyant jay]

ah ok i got , i open here at event probably and i was onlinee for collecting christmas gifs

gifts*

am i dont need wait in this cave right ?

if i spread them ? only again one of them increase?

i mean expand

[hoary whale]

nope, you can spread em and they'll expand whatever bar fills as long as you're online

thats the meta if you go offline is to spread out your buckets, so you reduce the risk of a bar stopping full

[night matrix]

Any tips on Rift 14?
I seem to end up making a good bit of progress just to lose a lot again.

[main tundra]

Which hero do i use to get 500 kills fast to open rift

[simple wadi]

I honestly just let my chr active for an entire afternoon and came back with it finished.

[simple wadi]

Bubo should work

[peak verge]

You can use SB on auto until plat/dem and then manually kill those and pray you get to lava.

[surreal cloak]

DK on citringes for Golden Hampter farm? edit: active

[peak verge]

On wurms if you can.

[fiery igloo]

Is the devine set better or the magma set better

Divine *

[peak verge]

Divine

[fiery igloo]

Doesn't magma set have all stat

And I have heard like the damage base is little higher than divine is it true ?

[peak verge]

Dmg is higher on divine. Mob respawn/DR > all stat.

[fiery igloo]

Oh I see Okok thanks

[weary hinge]

im about to finish colony 12, should i keep pushing more, or do the 10kbravery/24k justice thing?

[surreal cloak]

worms is better for activing on dk?

[fiery igloo]

Is this enuf to beat nightmare kattlekrukk?

[surreal cloak]

RIght, thanks. Worms seem best for all purposes in W5, besides archlord farm

[peak verge]

That's up to you and your kph if you deem worth the time investment. 10k bravery is huge if you have the schematic for more sword dmg per number of rethrows.

[peak verge]

Archlord?

[surreal cloak]

The SB drop rate talent ( right?)

is farmed on citrines

[weary hinge]

got all schems already, and i was only pushing colony with sb. i guess i know my answer, thanks!

[peak verge]

Oh right. Yeah, that one's on oranges.

[fiery igloo]

Mmmm ?

[surreal cloak]

Time for get 10k hampters for beanstalk, thanks!

[novel mural]

cant wait to farm dr obols

[weary hinge]

imma say yes but be quick

[fiery igloo]

Are u like very sure cuz I don't want to waste 70 keys just like that

[peak verge]

He has 1Q hp. Your max dmg is way less than 100th of his total hp.

[weary hinge]

well the boss is 1000T hp, but you might have megacrit, and spam potions, should do it but if you dont wanna waste the keys go grind abit more. and get a second opal ring.

follow what he said im so bad at the number conversions

[peak verge]

1000T -> 1.000.000 B

You're doing 1/3 of 1B.

[weary hinge]

i really have to study those conversions with letters.

[peak verge]

Just 3 zeroes when you wanna go up or down.

[weary hinge]

yeah, but i was very accustomed to scientific notations, i just need to memorize em

[hardy owl]

instructions unclear, now i have 0001000 and dont know what to do with it

[lyric glen]

Aren't they doing 1/3 of 1T? 342B top end dmg.

[fiery igloo]

Ahh welp I ma try when I have like 10 t damage ig

Thanks guys

[peak verge]

Could be, I think I also got lost in the sauce there.

[weary hinge]

wont his potions blast away that hp? looks like it could, im not sure

[peak verge]

My dumbass is also shit at those number conversions if it's any consolation.

[fiery igloo]

Or 5t works too ok got it

[lyric glen]

Do the moles heal % based? If their crit can suffice for nearly 0.5Tdmg per hit on Bubo, then they should also be able to kill the moles easy and it'll just be a slightly long fight, not a hard one per se.

Aura, gas, potions, etc. All of that together should make the boss manageable.

[fiery igloo]

[weary hinge]

goodluck!

[peak verge]

The moles have the same hp regardless of difficulty and the only issue would be them surviving too much. (since the heal happens if they reach him or if they were alive too long).

[hardy owl]

did anyone unfuzz the "an annihilation is when..." message yet?

[peak verge]

Kill X monsters in a certain amount of time since entering the map

[lyric glen]

Yeah, I meant if the moles reach the boss, do they heal % based or a fixed amount of the boss' hp?

[solar drift]

nice

[peak verge]

No clue on that but they shouldn't even reach him realistically.

[solar drift]

first image i see after i come back to w5 chat after weeks

[peak verge]

Ofc you show yo ass up the second I'm not roasting you.

[weary hinge]

welcome back, then

[lyric glen]

I haven't done the nightmare fight myself, but your dmg + crit checks out. Moles hp stays the same, just keep them away and make sure you have tentacle high enough to keep your aura and potions running on boss at least.

As I said, it'll be a long fight, not a hard one.

[weary hinge]

what he said, at this point your aura skill wont let those moles touch the boss

^200lvl talent

[solar drift]

also you dont need 5t to kill nightmare

is to kill it with a fart

[weary hinge]

checks out. but max potions to be sure

[hardy owl]

"an annihilation is when you [kill all the monsters] within 60 seconds of [entering the map]"?

[weary hinge]

i almost spat my coffee jeez

[hardy owl]

ah thanks, sry missed this had been answered

[fiery igloo]

Ahh I see but I think atm I ll just try to increase the damage little so it ll be quicker and easier so yeah thanks

[fiery igloo]

Crazy concoution ?

[weary hinge]

yes, thats a nuke for bubo on bosses anyway

[fiery igloo]

Ah ya I didn't put points on it cuz I didn't really think I would need it so yeah I ll probably reset it and put point on it

[weary hinge]

i only use that for boss battles, no use out of boss battles (for me)

[lyric glen]

So close to 10x DR..

Ah, right. Is there a specific reason to wait until 10x to start farming crystal mobs?

[weary hinge]

i didnt mind it before, since DK gives DR too

[fiery igloo]

how is everyone havimg almost 10 x drop rate when I sitting average of 5.5 x

[weary hinge]

alchemy, full dr obols, family bonus, cards, card sets, chips

many other sources

[faint wigeon]

premium equipment

[lyric glen]

Boosted silver Pop obols, gold dice obols, the premium pirate hat, 2x DR keychain, lucky lad trophy. Work in progress. 🙂

If you have the gems, buy 2 of these from the gemshop if you don't have anything of higher priority rn.

[weary hinge]

if you want to see the list, i think idleon insight shows em. even pre listed

[void musk]

What should i keep my minimum chest at for sailing?

[weary hinge]

whats the max roll?

[fiery igloo]

[faint wigeon]

am at 9 but with obols and cards I should go around 10.7 with some other lil bonus as well

[lyric glen]

On the tooltip in the shop it says that's the highest available roll.. x) I didn't confirm it, but I've never seen a 5% roll on the second set yet.

[weary hinge]

oh got it. never checked those

[fiery igloo]

I should with obol farm my obols are literal crap

[faint wigeon]

quantity > quality, if you can check every 2 hour or so (if your boats have less than 2 hour travel) don't use that thing, same for undending loot of SB

[weary hinge]

farm pop obols, then the square obols on w2 crystals. your family obol should be full dr

[void musk]

ah okay, i set it up like that when i got to world 5 and never really touched it after lol.

[solar drift]

base chest until you get every artifacts to sovereign

then you can use undending loot on sb

[faint wigeon]

also are the boats on last islands are your fastest? because 4 days to get to the island is not worth anything

[solar drift]

so your boat can look like this

[fiery igloo]

Max this go is like 2 more percentage atm

[lyric glen]

Take your ES down to Gigafrogs, put their horn on the loot filter, get your obols dropping and start rolling them. A full set of silver pops should get you to at least 7x DR

[faint wigeon]

beautiful
mind sparring some of those juicy ressources?

[solar drift]

no

[lyric glen]

If you're linked to elephant divinity, wouldn't it be better to have unending loot in the case that you trigger sailing prog? Plus the passive loot buff from the skill too?

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[void musk]

oh yeah i think those are my slower boats going all the way out there, i'll switch some around.

[proud pumice]

this goes up to 40%

[weary hinge]

push that thang

[solar drift]

to unlock new island, you use double speed captain on boat number1

[weary hinge]

mine is obviously lower

[faint wigeon]

thats why you'd want to do 1-2 hours check all the time, in case omni proc on sailing as well

[void musk]

There's another island to unlock? I thought those were the cloud discovery things

[faint wigeon]

always do your fastest to last island from slowest to first island

[solar drift]

then the boat that can farm the furthest island within 2-3h should be farfming that, everyone else on artifacts duty

[faint wigeon]

nah you got all but jade emporium will unlock new artifact on last island

[fiery igloo]

Those levels holly shit ,if that's the case my printer is crap aswell

[solar drift]

ah nvm you already got all island

[void musk]

Ahh gotcha and yeah I'm a long way off from soverign relics from sneaking. Sneaking is so hard to lv lol

[spiral path]

SBs are usually best, since they basically respawn one for one, so you always have mobs for the skull to jump to.

[solar drift]

shouldnt be soon when you have been doing cavern daily

[faint wigeon]

same

[solar drift]

you get shits ton of sneaking rate

[bleak gazelle]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
7-8x is fine if you want to start going for dice obols

[lyric glen]

Ah gotcha. I just revised my sailing progress and did a bunch of 2hr loops and leveling. I think my next cloud is also gonna be all 2hrs for each ship, so happy about that.

[lyric glen]

Ou. I see.. When my DK leaves lab jail I'll put him on pots then.

[fiery igloo]

What's ur dk lab level

[bleak gazelle]

git gud

[worldly lagoon]

have you tried u know, actually looting cards and not throwing them away?

[digital lava]

Why is it blue

[golden wing]

It is blessed

[faint wigeon]

blue chest = double

[simple wadi]

It's a rare roll that's got better level rewards than usual. Unfortunate it happened on an early round of chests.

[digital lava]

What feature does that?

[faint wigeon]

hole

monument

[digital lava]

Where in hle? lol

huh, ok

[faint wigeon]

its just something that happen

don't need to do anything for it to happen

[simple wadi]

It's not a bonus you unlock. It just a rare chance to happen.

[golden wing]

Rng no unlock for it

[digital lava]

Never seen it proc before, didn't invest more into monument afk

[golden wing]

It’s always possible

[simple wadi]

For the third time: it's just a rare proc.

[digital lava]

Anything you can do to raise chance?

[faint wigeon]

more run to have more odds technically because more chests?

[digital lava]

Gotcha

[simple wadi]

Can only do it once a day, so there is no "more runs"

[faint wigeon]

yeah

[digital lava]

I mean higher damage is essentially more chests so close enough equivalent

[peak summit]

@bleak gazelle results have come in, pretty much i lost about 20-25% ish kills an hour on plunderous mobs but gained 194 keys over 8 hours farming on wurms

[bitter echo]

given i completely overkill first difficulty of troll does this mean this is gonna take 20 keys?

[solar drift]

yes

[digital lava]

Does every number in this range have an equal chance of rolling? (1242 - (54 - 1) = 1189 integers possible, so 1/1189 = 0.08% for any given integer)

OR is it unevenly weighted?

[bitter echo]

given how my monument rolls go it feels like its pretty evenly weighted, i never really get low rolls (however this is just my anecdotal evidence)

[digital lava]

If you're asking if there's anything like multikill to speed it up, nope =/

[bitter echo]

nah not that, i figured 20 boss tasks means 20 attacks and cus i oneshot it that means 20 keys, ive only actually done the troll once so i dont even know how his key usage works XD

like if you have awful damage can you just do a ton of minigames with a single key?

[digital lava]

Yep

[simple wadi]

Anecdotal evidence says you'll get a low roll when you're powering up your last sword and it suddenly rolls minimum on bravery wave 29.

[bitter echo]

neat, ill see if i can nerf myself

[digital lava]

Do you maybe not 1 shot on skilling preset?

[bitter echo]

im not a big gambler so i tend to stop powering up my sword when the hp gets to 30% of its max roll

[bitter echo]

yeah thats what ill test, skilling setup vman would be weakest single target damage right?

[simple wadi]

There's also a prayer that reduces your damage I believe.

[bitter echo]

ooh yeah i always forget to look at prayers

ok with all the self nerfs i can do i actually should be fine to do 20 in one

[digital lava]

I usually stop once it requires 5x (my amount of swords rn) my average roll [which if evenly weighted is (maxdmg + mindmg)/2]. Unless I'm low on rerolls then I end sooner. That might be less conservative than your strategy but I've only ever busted once like this if you wanna give it a try for a few days

[simple wadi]

We're talking about powering up with our last sword.

[bitter echo]

yeah, when it comes to actual run i do go by my average total damage, though a bit conservatively, i just dont gamble heavily on last sword powerups

[digital lava]

So for this range (if it is evenly weighted), average is 648. So I stop once its near 5x648=3240. I know max damage can vary from run to run later on, so you can just eyeball it, don't need an exact. Can rounddown to like 5 x 600 = 3k, etc

[simple wadi]

Kapra, we're not talking about the whole run, lol. You're informing only yourself.

[digital lava]

Ohh you're right, don't mind my stupidity lol

[bitter echo]

i need 3 mil more xp for cavern 9 and my explorer gets 25,604 xp per hour. meanwhile my conjurer onlys need 120k xp to level up, i might reset all opals to my conjuror so i can level up the xp gains more cus this is rough

[digital lava]

I finish typing my messages before reading new ones, me sending it after you correcting me doesn't mean I didn't, after sending my message, see yours and understand you 👍

[simple wadi]

I know I was very offended by your messages. /s

[digital lava]

🤣 We all good

[faint wigeon]

Better putting all opals (or most) in explorer

More cavern = more opals to get eventually

Then maybe reset and put all in measurer till M9 (or 10)

After once again I’d put in engineer

[bitter echo]

yeah i was just considering if temporarily taking them off my explorer cus im at c8, to get one more level here quickly for an xp upgrade, then taking them back to explorer after might be faster, cus going by rates itd take 4 hours to get another conjuror point with 30 opals

at least im assuming 30 opals xp rate is universal across all the villagers

also are the first 2 xp ones in village majik multiplicative or additive?

[faint wigeon]

No idea

But it’s the one you want, 3rd blue bad

[bitter echo]

3rd blue was just for the unlocking enhancements anyways for 2nd div, im considering gambling on finding out if 1st blue is multiplicative cus its be 1.7 x 1.9 vs 1.35 x 2.2 if i levelled 1st blue vs 2nd blue

unrelated note, got my 2nd lucky lad today from platinum lustre ore card, the inventory clogging begins

this game hates me, 2 weeks in a row my free pet is sheepie

[lyric glen]

Last time I got a new pet was the end of November. I'd still like at least either Ram or Rift Slug. Still dootless, but y'know?

[simple wadi]

1st blue is definitely more powerful than second.

And I believe they're both mutliplicative bonuses, so yes they feed each other.

Let me experiment for a moment. So my current exp is:

If it's fully multiplicative, I should have 4.1m exp if I put a point in the third blue.

Looks like they only multiply from the base and not the end result of other bonuses.

[high hearth]

Is there some kind of hidden portal at Tremor Wurms?

I've noticed recently that after having several chars at Tremor Wurms farming for keys they report a Portal Opened.

[bitter echo]

so wait, that means additive right?

[simple wadi]

Probably? I get the terms mixed up in my head.

Good use of 450 gems to find out though.

[faint wigeon]

Yeah hidden invisible portal that lead to nowhere

[bitter echo]

well if its just the base it means the multiple bonuses are added. So 1x base, and 2 30% bonuses would be 160%, but multiplicative would be 1x base x 30% = 1.3 then that x 30% to make it 1.69

basically means they dont affect eachother

not affecting eachother = additive

but ty for the info

i dont have many wishes so didnt want to experiment with my limited resources XD

[simple wadi]

That or just the bonus I chose is additive 🤔

[bitter echo]

oh wait i thought you were using those 2 majik bonuses, which one did you use?

cus my plan was to wish respec to see which gives more out of those two

[simple wadi]

I didn't have any points in 3, so I put one in there.

[high hearth]

Huh, I see. That's interesting to know.

[bitter echo]

hmm, i need to find some caverns experts to see if anyone else knows if those first 2 are multiplicative

[faint wigeon]

It’s like some portal in mining zone as well

[simple wadi]

I tried, sorry

[bitter echo]

its ok someone in endgame talk said theyre all additive unless stated otherwise, i appreciate your sacrifice regardless

considering dropping the 780 gems on explorer double xp but ive only got 1500

[faint wigeon]

Idk if that answer the question me bad at math

Better at meth

[bitter echo]

yeah i went into the hole guide too and looked at that part but it mentioned nothing on how opal enthusiasm and contented creator interacted with eachother

buts its cool sheepie the 21st in endgame chat answered my question

[zinc torrent]

Without buff food and afk gear
Then with ^~^
As soon as it hits 200m it's sample day

[faint wigeon]

Sheepie goated

[faint wigeon]

Nice

[zinc torrent]

I'm excited but also sample day 😴

[peak verge]

sample next week when we get g.food bonus from ballot

[zinc torrent]

🤯 i actually didn't know that

I don't need royal sampler anymore so huge gains \0/

[bleak gazelle]

what, your .6x class xp?

[zinc torrent]

Wdym?

[bleak gazelle]

you said huge gains and not needing royal sampler

[hardy owl]

update is out!

(is what i plan to say when we finally get an update)

[misty sandal]

I did put point in idleon majik first

[zinc torrent]

Ohhhh.. ngl i forgot what it does besides increase sample rate ^^"

[hardy owl]

my nunchuk does 4000QQ but the door has 3E24, are those close? the change of number system is throwing me

[novel mural]

yeah some consistency would be appreciated doesnt e24 come after QQQ? which would be e23?

[faint wigeon]

Yes E24 is indeed after QQQ

[hardy owl]

ah so its like a 10 hour door? cool, its a bit confusing, thanks for answers

[faint wigeon]

I guess lava got lazy for denomination after QQQ and went scientific

[novel mural]

4000QQ should be 4QQQ then

[novel mural]

my math is probably not mathing, but I think it would be way longer, as you need 3000QQQ

so thats 750hrs? please correct me if I'm wrong

[hardy owl]

oh shit so by after you mean x1000 bigger, yeah thats possible im not doing much to the door

[novel mural]

yeah cuz 3e24 is 3000QQQ

[hardy owl]

well.... back to nunchuck farming then XD tnx for help

[novel mural]

yeah no worries

[fickle lake]

huh… why did my CC time decrease by 3x?

[peak verge]

if you leave the map, the time resets but you still get all the progress

[fickle lake]

but thats the thing, i didnt…? It used to be 600000 seconds

[faint wigeon]

dont use the 5th talent

[fickle lake]

its actually giving me more alchemy prog than when im not

[peak verge]

do you one shot wurms?

[fickle lake]

yes

[peak verge]

perma respawn up time?

[fickle lake]

like 1-2 seconds of delay but ye

[peak verge]

crystal chance / choco ?

[fickle lake]

yes

using both crystal cards as well

[peak verge]

you spawned 2 natural crystals over the span of 10 seconds and like 5 respawned waves

what's your crystal chance?

[fickle lake]

1/3k

[peak verge]

crystal, not giant chance

you can only check it on IE/IT

[fickle lake]

no card doubler chip since not in rotation

trying to atom it but can only afford so much

[peak verge]

Imma be real, that shit's not right. You should be at 1/80 on a bad day. ~1/30 on a good day.

[fickle lake]

yes

[peak verge]

you sure it wasn't 60k?

[fickle lake]

but that was with phoenix wings and the whole p2w items

[peak verge]

same ngl

[fickle lake]

let me see if i can find the image

[peak verge]

unless you swapped to your skilling preset or some bull by accident, there's no way to just randomly decrease by x3

[fickle lake]

nvm im actually blind it was 60k

[peak verge]

man tries to gaslight

[manic gyro]

I just got 4.5M cc at wurms is that normal

[sick sentinel]

no

highest legit is prob around 650k

[cobalt fog]

any tips here? i've tried like 20% 12 times and failed 💀

[manic gyro]

Ayo that's a ton tho

What's the bubble at

[sick sentinel]

you could have experienced a bug if you did get that, whoops

[manic gyro]

12 times is slightly under average for 20% just keep trying mate

[cobalt fog]

ok 😭

[manic gyro]

Was referencing a discussion that people had here, wasa a joke

[sick sentinel]

my highest was around 630k with 4k bubble and around 385 talent at the time

[manic gyro]

That's noce

[main kettle]

anyone with free time would like to review my Idleon tb ive came back to the game after 80 days and idk im lost

[sick sentinel]

oops i'll just scedadle then

[manic gyro]

I came back after like 400, just slowly get back into it, don't try to fix everything

[simple wadi]

Don't wait for any percent. Just click it every time you're in W5 town. Even if it's 0.1%

[novel mural]

whats wrong with using the vial throwing skill? doesnt it help making mobs poisoned?

[faint wigeon]

more talent you have the less your bubo will use some other skill sometimes, also the 5th talent on atombaka ss is the other gas thing (nvm it is the auto throwing canister)

[novel mural]

alright I see, thanks

[gilded sedge]

Basically evry certain amount of time bubo will use a skill, so the more skills there are on the bar the less the important one are gonna be used

[faint wigeon]

there you go, like the big man said

[gilded sedge]

The old man said it first

[faint wigeon]

yeah but the young one said it better

[novel mural]

[worldly lagoon]

damn whippersnappers

[zinc torrent]

With bubo.. should i have both poison canister and fart cloud or just one poison skill?

I use aura mostly because it's instant kills

[brave fable]

for good cc you want cc>revive>aura>ghost

and lvl up the chemical warfare one for the poison dmg from the ghosts to scale

[rotund zinc]

how do i unlock more boxes, I've gotten at least 2 "unlock a new po box" but still the same

[brave fable]

the second tab?

[hoary whale]

Breeding arena for most

[rotund zinc]

There's a second tab?!

[hoary whale]

There might be 1 or 2 that are locked behind artifacts… cant recall 100%

[brave fable]

yes for both orders and boxes

you need to unlock all 6 order slots to get to the second tab

[rotund zinc]

ahh

[brave fable]

i think after that you need to do arena in breeding and get artifacts in sailing that unlock other boxes in that secont ab

[full bluff]

Why go for a year?

[stable parrot]

Burnout

[dire inlet]

Hey guys wanted to check is this still broken?

[worldly lagoon]

it was broken? :o

[dire inlet]

cant seem to find it, people were talking about it in a chat somewhere

[worldly lagoon]

as far as i know it's been working since day 1,

[stable parrot]

That’s not broken

The justice monument one is not functional as of now

[junior arrow]

Yea that works fine

[winged plover]

How much damage should I have for Kattlekruk?

[cyan mantle]

Which character are you pushing to kruk?

[winged plover]

I'm there on BB

just key farming

[cyan mantle]

Damn that was a bad choice to get bb there

[winged plover]

really?

[cyan mantle]

If it was es 30m, dk 35m but since it's bb around 55+m

[winged plover]

;-; I'm at 13m rn

[cyan mantle]

Ye

[winged plover]

actually I'm higher now

With and without buffs

wait I sent that twice lol

That's without buffs

[turbid plaza]

I’m highest rn. Just finished farming a bunch of mushrooms

[winged plover]

Well idk how to improve my damage further except for pushing stamps and bubbles ;-; can't craft the rest of void armor cause no materials

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[winged plover]

lol I'm trying ;-; IE is bugged for me so I can't use it

meaning I have to check those manually

[hybrid girder]

How long should it take for me to get whatever link in divinity to link to lab to level both with one

[bleak gazelle]

anywhere from 1 - 7 days depending on your rng and how many characters you have on the altars

[zinc torrent]

How much dmg do you need to kill 60 wurms in the rift with ES portal?
I can't get the skill below 51

[vernal relic]

does this cap include the bonus in hole majik?

[bleak gazelle]

no, monument display in-game does include cap though

[proper sand]

how do i unlock the first monument in the hole

i keep coming back after an hour buts its not working

[junior arrow]

are you actually afking there or just leaving the map

[proper sand]

i was honestly looking for an ignorant answer nvm

[vernal relic]

does the hole majik monument directly multiply it in monument tab?

like visually? i dont want to reset my conjureer just to know

[peak summit]

does golden stopwatch give lamps

[junior arrow]

there is only 1 lamp but no, gold watches dont give wishes

silver watches can as it only triggers on your daily reset

[solar flame]

what does this do if I have every artifact at ancient

[junior arrow]

you cant even buy it

[solar flame]

it seems like I can still buy it

[cyan mantle]

Maybe just don't then

[solar flame]

Thank you for solving the weekly boss

[bitter echo]

can this be used to get spices you havent actually unlocked yet?

[pastel kayak]

Just got @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

I doubt it

[analog raven]

erm, i have a question i wanna ask but idk where it should be asked in \o

I wanna ask where to farm power statues. which group do i use to ask? I just completed my dr obol farm

[faint wigeon]

power statue you farm that with crystal farm on DK at beans

[analog raven]

beans as in the ones in w1?

[faint wigeon]

yee

[analog raven]

okie, ty cucumber god

[faint wigeon]

[analog raven]

i just need another 10k hrrrgh

[faint wigeon]

w1 statues at beans
w2 statues at tyson or sandy pot (if need glass shard)
w3 statues have all different rate so diff mobs for each I reckon
w4 clammies
w5 wurm > cj
w6 minichef

all crystal beside w3

[bleak gazelle]

all in the 📌

[zinc torrent]

Hopefully update this Thursday..
To change the arcade bonuses

[fickle lake]

its alr a friday for me

[zinc torrent]

Same here

5hrs till Saturday

[pastel kayak]

@fickle lake Friday night here

[fickle lake]

2pm Friday here…

[pastel kayak]

After 5pm Friday night here

[pastel kayak]

You Aussie?

[fickle lake]

singaporean

[pastel kayak]

I am Aussie

[faint wigeon]

8pm thrusday, I still have hope update come in

[fickle lake]

Ive lost all hope

[oblique jasper]

Mods already said it’s not coming today

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/qlXIo39wXZJ.gif

Don't !

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/qrap8S1JeVU.gif

[oblique jasper]

There are no normal aussies

Yeah they just have different scale of crazy

[faint wigeon]

they cant be normal when they live in satan land

[pastel kayak]

Read my name

[junior arrow]

this doesnt sound very w5 questions?

[zinc torrent]

Sorry Zoro

[analog raven]

heh oops, i scrolled right past to sailing

[faint wigeon]

statues are in w3w4 pin

[oblique jasper]

I don’t even check pins nowadays. Just go to master guide list

[bleak gazelle]

They're here too

[faint wigeon]

oh

right forgot that pin of xayayah

[oblique jasper]

Whoever created the guide masterlist is goated fr fr

[analog raven]

I have more spreadsheets than my main game now , final fantasy 14

[oblique jasper]

I’ve never used a spreadsheet in any rpg I’ve played

[faint wigeon]

||thats off topic?||

[oblique jasper]

Uhhhhhh , oh look a bus is coming. Sarah started it

[analog raven]

wtf

[junior arrow]

how about just keep this to w5

[zinc torrent]

What's the master guide for "idleon"?

[junior arrow]

#1277368276095336558

[zinc torrent]

Thankyou ^^

[digital lava]

So this gives exp even to unequiped string types?

[junior arrow]

all does mean all yes

[vapid geode]

is there any point in equipping those Mining Cards if they got the (P)

Or do I want to drop them for Strength Cards?

[junior arrow]

dont equip (P) or passive cards, you get nothing from it

[hoary whale]

afk gains card from w1 and 4 bosses > % stat bonuses > str gains

[stable temple]

There is relevant cases where you equiped P cards to use with card doubler chips

[nova swan]

Yall I pushed to world 5, what is the first thing I should focus on? I know that everything is important but what is going to give me the most value is what I wanna know

[hoary whale]

they arn't doubled by the chip

equipping the card doen't give a bonus so theres no bonus to be doubled in that slot

[junior arrow]

wrong... you dont use them ever

[stable temple]

Really? I've been scammed

[hoary whale]

keep pushing with your main (hopefully a ES or DK) park everyone else in divinity until you unlock Goat

[nova swan]

I pushed with BM but i’ll swap ES, my BM has the most damage and acc out of everybody so I used him

[hoary whale]

even with less damage ES should soon overtake him in kph

actively

and their dmg is done to mana talent makes you crazy tanky so you can use all your food slots for pots

[nova swan]

Yeah I noticed that

I had like 30 levels sitting around so I put them into that

I’ve been powerleveling everybody lately because my BM and DK were like 20 levels higher than everybody else lol, just sat everyone on their farthest map spot and let them afk for like 3 days and then move them further

[proud arch]

By that logic may as well just sling bubo xD

[hoary whale]

if your lab wasn't fully unlocked that probably hurt account progress

[proud arch]

This is why 2 bubo is king

[hollow nest]

Once the skilling cards are made passive whats the best card setup for skilling? Adding +20 str or something like that feels so useless

[hoary whale]

Bubo takes a lot of investment to be useful active

[proud arch]

2nd es isn't any good xD

[hoary whale]

and is squishy af

[warm holly]

skill afk gain rate, all stat %, and main stat

[proud arch]

A few days of books tops

[warm holly]

sadly there isn't much point to having 2 bubos

[hoary whale]

something like that

[proud arch]

Lab and hole 😛

[warm holly]

hole?

[proud arch]

And if your a busy person 2 cc is the way

[warm holly]

and 2 cc?

[proud arch]

Have you not made it to Mr brightside yet ?

Cranium cooking

[warm holly]

no i know what they are

[hoary whale]

why would a second bubo help with CC at all

[warm holly]

why would you want 2 bubos for the hole

[proud arch]

Re read the sentence

[prime stone]

lab becomes useless later when u maxed out everything anyways, 2nd cc is obsolete as ur first bubo will have almost 100% uptime later

[proud arch]

Y'all forgetting w6 w7 and w8. + Lab divinity content

[prime stone]

I don't get the hole aspect tho

[warm holly]

Im also not getting how w7 and 8 and even 6 factor in

[proud arch]

You also are skipping context. I will state again 2 cc is the way for a BUSY person xD

[warm holly]

and divinity is an ES skill

[warm holly]

but that makes no sesnes lol!

[prime stone]

Hmm you'll have more cc when u stay on 1 bubo instead of switching

[warm holly]

Ok context is needed: are you in w6 bobjoelol

[hoary whale]

swapping to a second character to use a different instance of Cranium cooking is objectively more "work" than just leaving the first one active

[proud arch]

Context is I viewed it this way since w4

[proud arch]

Not for a busy person. Limited time means 2 cc is the way

[warm holly]

it objectively is also not gaining you any time

[prime stone]

game kinda changes when u enter later stages tho

[warm holly]

As you're not reducing the cooldown for the other cc while ccing on your other bubo

[hoary whale]

you are wasting seconds to change to a different character.... vs not pressing any buttons

and staying on bubo 1

[proud arch]

Skills cooldown while you are offline

Cc will get cooldown time while logged

[warm holly]

ok so, the base cooldown of CC is around 36k seconds

[hoary whale]

skills cooldown faster if you leave it active in the background

[proud arch]

I think I am just busier then you are is the thing and the context goes over your lifestyle

[prime stone]

you are literally putting in more effort for less gains

[warm holly]

with bubo on tremor worms you can kill about 100 or so creatures every 2 seconds, giving you around 75 procs of 3 second cooldown reduction (napkin math)

[prime stone]

ain't really "busier"

[proud arch]

If I got 10 minutes I only got time for 2 CCs as it won't cooldown fast enough

[warm holly]

so in 2 seconds you get about 225 seconds of cooldown reduction for CC

[warm holly]

just leave the computer on at that point right?

[proud arch]

Even at my stage I got a 6k time left over. So i swap and keep going

[warm holly]

I mean your bubo can CC while you're away, sounds like you're arguing against a busy lifestyle

[hoary whale]

nah hes too busy for that, has to close out idleon so hes more efficient

[proud arch]

No I swap to dk and let it do what I need cause sigils don't get time during cc

[warm holly]

I'm almost never at the computer or atleast not watching the game while ccing

nah he trollin

[proud arch]

I am playing a different game then y'all xD back to w6

[proud arch]

No, I actually play this way when working 12s. I only get 15minutes to play and need 8k + water a bubble cycle

[hoary whale]

if you only have 15 mins a day to play total, and can't leave your pc on to active farm theres a lot higher prio things to do than 1 CC on a bubo

heck just doing monuments alone takes more than 15 mins and gives better returns than 2 instances of CC

[barren nymph]

Even more so than any of that, I think if this person was actually as busy as they claimed to be they wouldn’t be starting chat fights on discord.

[pastel kayak]

I have my main active at beans for now

I got the chocolate chip last night my time

[junior arrow]

#idleon-gen-chat

[spark stone]

also opal chance is good, at least early on

[faint wigeon]

I'd go for whatever you need right now, but in general I like to take opal and bfr

tho now I take mining eff and cooking speed when I can

[hoary whale]

i always go for opal, and then its kinda feelycrafty. mining eff and fill rate are both really good, villager exp has kinda fallen off for me because i have so many sources of it

[faint wigeon]

or if you want to set yourself a goal of having level 100 of each or like 1000% of the bonus then go for it, you can free style it

[cyan mantle]

Dadoums what's your sailing like?

[faint wigeon]

haven't unlocked last island yet, imma do it when I have better/faster boat for some, tho I can start rn

and far from having sov unlocked

[cyan mantle]

Damn you got more eldritch than me

[faint wigeon]

note to yourself I have undending loot as well

[hoary whale]

ooo have some really juicy artifacts left to eldritch tho

[cyan mantle]

I'm at 5k plunder kills now on oranges

[faint wigeon]

yeah if I'm not lazy Imma put some boats in the island I have eldritch left but I like it as I'm right now

[hoary whale]

if i were you id send the whole fleet after the skill book one, then probably trilobite or steak

[faint wigeon]

also like I got back to back ancient mask, ancient aristotle and eldritch mask in the past 3 days

[faint wigeon]

ight will do one day

[proud arch]

highly suggested if you got even 1 ship that can reach it within min time to have it going

[faint wigeon]

yeah I think I can do that, last I checked with my fastest boat I was around 4-5 hours I think?

[craggy willow]

Try to get hold of a good +speed captain or two, that helps until you can get more speed from other sources

[faint wigeon]

yee

[faint wigeon]

@nova crow this on my bubo with dr/cc setup

[nova crow]

Okay similar to me....

[faint wigeon]

what colony are you on?

[nova crow]

5, but i just started doing it earlier this week

Only just got 2k bravery

[faint wigeon]

ah alright am on colo 4
and what level is your measurer? mine at 9, 6 six days and hes 10

[nova crow]

9,13,15,7

[faint wigeon]

hmm and opal distribution?

[nova crow]

I need to reset some opals I think at some point

31/20/10/10

[faint wigeon]

if I were you I'd put most if not all on explorer to get C10 asap, then all on measurer because the next bonus are great

[nova crow]

Yeah, I should probably unlock justice asap

[proud arch]

hey so whats yalls string set up? looking at the hi scores my strings are extremely low compared to the rest of my hole progress. im about 30 lvls overall behind where i could be

[pastel kayak]

Need less then 700 of them now

[faint wigeon]

I saw someone having one of all then all G tho idk if they were before or after you in term of progression

[spark stone]

if your strings are low I think u need to switch Cs and G

[faint wigeon]

yes at lamp

you can reset opal and conjuror bonus

[proud arch]

ill have to take a strum and see how much exp that yields

[nova crow]

I need to buy that gem shop stuff for hole... seems OP

[proud arch]

hmmm i mite be to deep into this C pattern i lost a lot of strum exp

this could go up a lot that mite be it as welll

[undone wagon]

Why not 1 of every string

[proud arch]

i can try it tho i know that was not ideal

[nova crow]

doesnt the hole guide pin have the ideal setup there?

[zinc torrent]

This is lowkey fkin amazing esp for vman sampling runs

Been wondering if there's something like this ^^
Credit to trickzbunny

[weary hinge]

Is that on the tips? I might need to save that too

[zinc torrent]

Yup in tips

[spark stone]

considering the inequality: (x-5) *2.8 > x * 1.3 which summarizes when having 6 different strings and a few of a single type (in your case C) gives more "resources" from the string u have multiple on instead putting all strings of the same type, where x is the total number of string you have;
you can see that if you have more than 9.33 strings (so 10 or more) you get more from the type of string you are currently farming.
||English is not my native language, and I didn't think it would be this difficult to express a simple inequality in another language||

[weary hinge]

Cool, thanks!

[faint wigeon]

is in pinned too

[proud arch]

all good i got the gist 😄 tldr 10 strings of one is optimal for xp otherwise split it up

[spark stone]

I tried to say the exact opposite
10 strings of the same one are worse instead of splitting all types and then placing 5 of the one you are looking for

[zinc torrent]

So have the starting strings one of each and then the one you're farming as the rest?

[spark stone]

instead 9 strings of the same type gives more than all splitted and 4 of one type.

All of this without considering that other strings also gives stuff

[zinc torrent]

Opal string doesn't exist...

[faint wigeon]

erm

[zinc torrent]

I got 3 and never seen any since.. it's just a fun string now

[spark stone]

can someone tell IT that this is not my opal chance?

[faint wigeon]

yeah same haven't got one in a while tho only been a week I started having a D string back on my harp

[zinc torrent]

Don't do what i did.. i pulled 10xD for 3 days and got nothin..

So.. silly string

[proven basin]

#idleon-gen-chat

[sharp bobcat]

sailing is a w5 skill cmon ?

[proven basin]

not a question

not my rules tbh

[sharp bobcat]

why not doing general w5 ?

[peak verge]

I just woke up. Where update?

[gilded sedge]

Oh you mean the update that was supposed to be out a month ago? It doesn't exist, you've dreamt of it

[junior arrow]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[proud arch]

XD! Then I am super glad I explained what I understood. Ty for correcting me 🙂

[naive swan]

ok how do i start with divinity

is it like lab but extra slow

[pastel bramble]

sit on the altar with your char, select a style then switch to a diff char and wait

its super slow to start with

[faint wigeon]

exactly, gotta collect on the hour at first, cant go at 59min and get div gains

at least early on

[peak verge]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[solemn ore]

the real question is how do I continue with divinity

[peak verge]

Same as you did until now.

[simple wadi]

I think he means existentially. How can he continue with divinity after the shit he's seen? The universe is a lie. A lie I tell you! They're putting chemicals in the water to turn the fricken frogs into lizard people

[rapid python]

does reward multi for justive and bravery work currently? ive been sitting without claiming for awhile

[peak verge]

He saw the glass dome around Earth.

[simple wadi]

How so? Do you mean the reward multiplier?

[rapid python]

yes

[simple wadi]

It slows down around 2.5x

[junior arrow]

not currently, and neither does daily wishes

[rapid python]

i assume it grows for days without claiming, maybe thats a wrong assumption

so i need to claim asap? theres no help for me if I wait

[junior arrow]

oh wait you mean the multi in the middle of the screen or the reward you can pick?

i might be thinking of the wrong multi

[simple wadi]

I suggest doing it every day, but every two days would be the limit without losing rewards.

[rapid python]

forget about the multi - is it ok to wait days before claiming justice and bravery, or do i need to claim daily

its just more work :\

[junior arrow]

up to 2.4x is good, after that the bonus slows down

which takes 48 hours to reach

[hearty robin]

what am I doing wrong that I haven't even gotten an opal yet from the dogs in the cave? i have opals from many places (my last unlock is the harp)

[simple wadi]

The opals from dogs are from getting as high of point value as you can. You will get point adjustment settings that you can change by leveling up the engineer.

[hearty robin]

yeah, i've added some points and all

but i still get 'feared' way before

given that this is one of the first caves i thought i should be getting the 1st or 2nd scores quite easily[

[peak verge]

Do you have this turned off or something?

[hearty robin]

nop

[simple wadi]

Turn the accuracy one to the point that it's equal or slightly less than your accuracy. The damage one needs to be equal to your rate of self healing from the star talent that heals you on kills.

[hearty robin]

yeah i think thats where i'm at now, one more i start missing

[simple wadi]

As for the health one, play around with it until you get a score you're happy with

Otherwise just get your damage up. The hole is meant to be an end game thing that you continuously work towards while doing the other world stuff

Kind of like Rift and Equinox

[hearty robin]

ya i have so many holes in my game lol

havent gone past 2nd equinox thingy

[simple wadi]

You'll get there. The game is about marginal gains that add up

[hearty robin]

ya

its a neverending cycle of finding the lowest hanging fruit

[peak verge]

Hot.

[lyric glen]

If it helps, I'm a wee bit ahead of you and also don't have enough dmg to score my first stone either. I'm just shy of it. Keep leveling your engineer, boosting your dmg, etc. It'll all add up in the long run.

[rapid python]

looking forward to not picking up lucky lads soon

[simple wadi]

Gotta save up 75 Luckier Lads to make Luckiest Lad in W7

[echo crag]

plz dont give lava ideas

[hearty robin]

what could I change here?

maybe the xp%?

[echo crag]

#1303761365273415700 message

[green eagle]

one character's entire existence is to just hold your luck lads and another is to hold the completed luckier lads to be able to craft a luckiest lad

[sturdy spire]

hey i was just wondering, why is there shadow behind BB and other classes?

i was lookin on wiki for that and found nothin

[bleak gazelle]

for future master classes

[bleak gazelle]

Are you trying to push to boss or do dogs?
XP definitely won't help with dogs, go for max damage and throw on a red pot or two

[hearty robin]

this is just for overall farming w5 to boss

i had moved on from the dogs talk

[bleak gazelle]

as much damage as you can and accuracy if needed. could keep moonmoon on if you're active and wnat xp, as that (and flies) is an xp multi

[hearty robin]

kk

[tight pilot]

how much is too much lvls in ⛏️ eff in monument

[bleak gazelle]

no such thing
there's no cap, so just however much you want compared to other bonuses you need

[tight pilot]

so lvl 2k ain alot

[bleak gazelle]

it's a lot to me, but that's because I've been focused on other bonuses. Just make sure you're actually making use of it eventually by taking a sample or mining more motherlode layers

[celest roost]

For my Sailing Kings and Queens out there, can anyone tell me if there is a maximum level for ship upgrades? or will I essentially be upgrading them forever?

[bleak gazelle]

pretty sure they're infinite

[celest roost]

sheeit... okay. thank you, I was really hoping for a cap at some point, even if it happened to be way down the line

[bleak gazelle]

could just stop them all at 300

[echo crag]

seem to get harder to level them up past 300

[nova crow]

its a loooooooong road

[celest roost]

that would be 300 loot value and 300 boat speed?

or 150 each

[rotund zinc]

If I'm linked to goharut and pocket divinity to arctis does that mean I can take my characters out of the lab tube

[languid mist]

I just bought the Kitsune rock and the feeling I'm getting is that I want to keep it active while I'm actively playing to have some sort of "active" gaming gains, but then disable it when AFKing right?

[echo crag]

active 100% of the time regardless

[languid mist]

The growth cycles it gives me always outweight the bit loss at every stage then? Especially in the beginning.

[craggy willow]

Probably depends on how fast your plants grow and rank up. I found it better to deactivate it when I'm not around for long, more total bits from the harvest.

[remote ether]

During a justice run I got the Approve gets you 4 coins buff. I only did Approve from then on but noticed that after I while I stopped recieving coins. Is there a cap on how many you can get?

[craggy willow]

It stops when you reject twice or dismiss once

[remote ether]

Ohhhhh

[craggy willow]

Rejecting twice sets your pop to 0

[remote ether]

I didnt realize that dismiss also cancelled it

[languid mist]

My growth upgrade is at level 101 right now so it's around 2 hours or so without the Kitsune. With the kitsune it's every 34 minutes so it kinda feels better to keep it active at all times now that I think about it

[remote ether]

I avoided reject

[craggy willow]

It's more like when you go to sleep, or pop a chem plant

[echo crag]

the shorter cycle will allow more chance at plant evo overnight still

[craggy willow]

Unless you have very fast cycles you'll end up around evo 4 in both cases, 5 and higher has very low proc chance

[nova crow]

@echo crag How long is the hampter farm supposed to take...?

[echo crag]

depend on your dr really

[nova crow]

14.6

[echo crag]

whats your hampter goal ?

[nova crow]

100 for now just for the staff...

Or 300 for at least one of each main wep

[remote ether]

Are you active on DK?

[silent prawn]

im struggling to get the bag o heads stamp, what do you suggest i farm to increase chances of dropping

[nova crow]

No, ES.

[remote ether]

I had better luck on DK, but if people are check marking ES then I probably just had bad rng

[nova crow]

Literallly anything to catch

[silent prawn]

ive been farming flies for years and that shi wont drop

[nova crow]

It took me a good decent amount of candies to get it too. dw

[silent prawn]

scandalous

[echo crag]

rng being rng, also probably low dr

[stray hull]

it literally wouldnt take years unless you somehow managed to reduce your skill eff to nothing so that you arent increasing your chances at all

[remote ether]

Yeyeyeye

[spark stone]

if u don't need any bug in particular I guess the best one are butterflies so u can farm the stamp, butter and statues

[silent prawn]

ye its not that high, still under 5x

[stray hull]

put on cards for drop rate, skill eff, catching speed, etc

[spark stone]

or does having more prowess levels affect in any way the rare drops?

[stray hull]

I dont think prowess technically matters but anything that increases how quickly you catch and how good your DR is will affect it

[spark stone]

as I thought: skilling speed and dr

[tame kayak]

Wookiewherecookie

[silent prawn]

i just got the stamp -_-

[echo crag]

general rule about gamining loot: complaining out loud to other ppl will get you the drop within 5-10min of said complain

[gilded silo]

Anyone have tips on where to farm plunderous kills?

[echo crag]

oranges

[gilded silo]

Bet, ty. Around what damage should I be at to farm them?

[echo crag]

when you can 1 shot the plunderous

[gilded silo]

WIth minimum or max damage, or just consistently?

[echo crag]

min dmg

[thorny island]

is there an optimal dawg den amplifier setup excel sheet somewhere?

[stray hull]

I think there is in the pinned guide for hole

[echo crag]

there is, but it doesnt mention an excel sheet for dogos. would have to ask endgame chat if one was made

[quasi galleon]

6 hours to go

[nova crow]

Oh, I have 8 since then. Tahts only 30 mins. Not too bad

[echo crag]

small sample tho, rng is a fickle mistress

[nova crow]

Yeah true. Good thing I can leave it overnight

[echo crag]

at least your farming more gfood at the same time

[fickle cave]

Is this card bad look bad

[stray hull]

what are you asking exactly? the card is great. any passive bonus from a card is a good thing, especially something like drop rate

[echo crag]

wished he would have made the w6 mini boss passive too, that one is a small amout sure but passive makes up for it

[undone wagon]

First thing that came to mind is that he is talking Abt the boss IMG being out / too big

[stray hull]

I guess though demeo is a big boi for sure

[fickle cave]

I'm asking is it good to farm with for crystal and bosses for more drop chance or should I go for blueberry cake carb

[stray hull]

well those boses have set spawn rates so you want to regularly kill them for drops and cards. unrelated to basically any other mob option

and yes they can appear in arena as well but you wont want to just burn tickets to farm them starting out. better to wait for pickles and DR and such to get death note bonuses too especially since the later world arenas are very expensive

[fickle cave]

So is it better then 3 percent or is it just a lame 1.5

[stray hull]

it goes up each card level tier, just like all other cards do

[fickle cave]

Yeah so which is better 3 percent 0 no tier or 1.5

The last of my 8 card is a 30 percent damage

[stray hull]

its passive so you dont need to equip it is the point. any card that says 'passive' or (P) means you get the bonus no matter what

simply having the card at all means you get the bonus

[fickle cave]

Ok thx

Oh I didn't know that

So that what passive mean I should of been ranking up the passive card then

I thought they were just last ditch card

Like that cooking speed card

[stray hull]

yea basically. passive cards are well worth leveling up. some are very powerful (or even necessary really)

[fickle cave]

Oh dang if I knew that early would of rank up all the passive damn well thank you also one last question

Ok so I want the extra 20 percent the pure drop know where best farm his thing

[echo crag]

its why skill mastery from rift is so good, getting 300 global skill lvl turn all the cards of that skill passive

[stray hull]

yup, skill mastery is a major boost to skills since it turns all their cards passive.

[stray hull]

so the cheapest is you just wait for it to respawn in the world. you can use a tool like IE/ID to see the spawn period. or you can try doing coloseum but I would wait for other bonuses before going too crazy. since if you need drop rate there are more farmable cards to get for bigger bonuses in the meantime

like this guy for example

[clever lagoon]

hey guys, if you have king doot, you need to be lvl5 divinity on character for its effects to work?

[errant pond]

Lvl 2 i believe

[stray hull]

I think its just level 2. there is a pin for doot

[clever lagoon]

thanks

[stray hull]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[fickle cave]

I have him at blue

[stray hull]

cool, there are others as well that will add up too like crystal carrot. bop box, king doot, etc

those are the big sources of DR to focus on

[fickle cave]

All blue expect present and cake crab

[stray hull]

and next would be the card drop cards too 😉

[fickle cave]

Ok but I'm not worry about drop chance card cause 1 red and rest blue expect present

Where his best farm

[stray hull]

stuff that doesnt take a long time to kill but it also takes ages anyways

[flat plume]

so uhh i soveirgned all artifacts what now? just put everyone on the last island and just get sailing exp / loot for converting to gold?

[fierce cargo]

Lvl 300 boats

[errant hound]

citringes

but now people do it on hole mushroom map too (to get some opals and statues)

[echo crag]

mushroom is mostly to get the card really

since sb is the only one with a rez mechanic that work in the hole

[hearty robin]

any tips on what to level now? I just reset it, but i can reset i again if i'm screwing it up

[peak verge]

ignore king of the remembered ngl

keep it on the skilling preset on a different dk

[errant hound]

ye its not good skill kinda (to be on main dk) for a looong time till u have excess points

can always put 1 point if u dont have 2nd dk

[hearty robin]

@peak verge thank you

where did u get it? i'm going downwards to the other ones

[peak verge]

It's a rather outdated sheet so I'd rather not send you stuff to follow blindly and then blame me.

[hearty robin]

what would be your opinion here?

i'm 'rewriting' my dk

[rotund zinc]

So when exactly can I leave lab tubes for divinity grinding. Is it a certain div level. Having a certain God?

[wise pawn]

I think that sheet is pretty okay no?

You would be flying with levels soon

[peak verge]

https://prnt.sc/o2cSAyuoRuW3

[peak verge]

It's less relevant once you have enough points to just max everything but in terms of "I only have so many points, what should I prioritize?" it's kinda lacking in some places.

[wise pawn]

Was looking at his 4th tab didnt see 3rd

[hardy owl]

finally!

[hearty robin]

@peak verge i'll follow with taking advantage of you, i can reset this, but I think what i have here is pretty standard/minimal

(in a lil moment of minmaxing)

[night charm]

do the moles heal kattle more if its chaotic?

[peak verge]

They heal him regardless of difficulty.

[molten granite]

Guss is rejecting or dismissing the gratefulbringer in the cabern Instant los?

[peak verge]

Max those, throw 20 into double strike, around 20 in firmly grasp it, dump the rest into HP.

[molten granite]

I habt approve him

[night charm]

i mean if they heal the same amount if hp ore more or if they do spawn more often

[hearty robin]

which woul mean that from here some in crit dmg and 50/50 in hp/str?

[peak verge]

Idk the exact heal amount but if you worry about that, you're probably better off improving your dmg.

[peak verge]

1 point in crit max. Then max out str, hp and afk.

[hearty robin]

interesting

for some reason my acc went to shit

ah shit

wrong cards lol

[molten granite]

Welp it was a Good run

[languid mist]

idk whether to ask this here for w4 chat since the question kinda overlaps with both but what jail do you guys toss everyone into after lab's temporarily done? (level 75 for all the chip slots)? I'm doing divinity with omni while they're in the lab. I'm thinking about going with the hole at some point, I don't have all that many hours there.

[peak verge]

Lab 75 is useless since you realistically don't have enough chips for the slots to be an issue.

You should do divinity until goat and then move everyone into lab until you unlock the rest of the Gods. (or at least up to Flutterbis)

Realistically once you unlock Purrmep, it's all up to you what jail they go into.

[languid mist]

Sounds like a good plan, I'll stick to that. Thank you 🫡

[stable parrot]

Realistically you can stop lab once you activate your whole lab with an acceptable amount of toons

[peak verge]

Oh right, that's also a good point of reference. Enough lab until you can reach every node you care about.

[languid mist]

The chemistry set node is likely the last node I'll truly want for now and I'm still a long ways from affording it without every toon except my pusher (or everyone with bear linked in some way). I might just postpone the hole for a while longer then. Thank you both.

[stable parrot]

Don’t postpone the hole

[stray hull]

even if you dont camp at the statues you def dont want to postpone the hole

[stable parrot]

Pocket divinity is huge

[undone wagon]

@errant hound

[undone wagon]

Keith

I also finished ||Sommuning||

[sturdy acorn]

GOOOOOOOOOO to the ribbon

[stray tide]

Stop spamming the chats…

[gilded sedge]

yay

[proven parrot]

whats the point of renewing the bell

[gilded sedge]

for when u get the like engi upgrades

[proven parrot]

alr

[junior arrow]

there are 2 schematics that both give chances to give bonus levels for every bell upgrade, so after you get both its good to renew it, also if RNG fails you badly and all your upgrades keep going to 1 you dont like, you can renew to try for a better spread

[long charm]

are conjurer points the best hole thing to buy from the gem shop

[gilded sedge]

probably, but villager xp is also very good and resources aint bad either

[hard grove]

How does the ancient echos packs cobalt robe work with the damage bonus is it additive total or like the phoenix wings damage multi? Or a higher tier that affects the damage multi?

[sly kayak]

Hey guys

I need some Flippin storage

Why do they not sell storage chest in the world 5 shop

[peak verge]

He loaned them to the W6 shopkeep.

[sly kayak]

I unlocked world 6 but the storage chest are more expensive than 100 times my life savings

[peak verge]

Such is life.

You can probably hunt for some more.

[sly kayak]

I already wait a minute

I already got everything there except the w6 chest the gem chest and the world 6 chest shop

I'm too Flippin broke I can't afford gem chests

[peak verge]

Are you doing your daily bosses?

[sly kayak]

Yes?

Kinda

I'm doing doot

[peak verge]

I mean the 300 daily bosses.

[sly kayak]

Do I need to do the sand of time thing

What the

Brother I am not in the endgame

I just got into world 6

[peak verge]

This applies to the first 300 bosses you kill every day.

[sly kayak]

Damn😔

I have like (￣ヘ￣）ᵁᴹᴹ

[peak verge]

So you just farm some w4-w5 keys, kill 300 daily and get on average 240-250 gems.

[sly kayak]

Damn but (￣ヘ￣）ᵁᴹᴹ

My kills are too small

[peak verge]

?

[sly kayak]

But I have like 800 ice keys for w3

[peak verge]

You can use those as well but they're harder to replenish. For w4/5 you can actively farm them.

[sly kayak]

Okay

[stray hull]

yea thats why they suggest w4 since you can get 'infinite' keys

[lyric glen]

Just a heads up, for those still progging through the game, even on active farming until about 9.5x DR, you aren't dropping that many keys. The 300 takes almost all day (unless there's something I'm missing).

[stray hull]

or w5 if you are doing a lot of CC it can build up before long

[stray hull]

Id add on that front that if you are at that level of progression and have all the other chests you probably are storing a bunch of crap you dont really need in storage too 😉

[lyric glen]

Agreed. Each of my chars have 1/2 a page to a full page of just stuff to free up storage.

[peak verge]

300 kills takes an hour

[stray hull]

I have basically one char as the 'mule' but most others have some things on them too.

[stray hull]

they mean the key farming, not the boss kills

[lyric glen]

To get the keys, not to kill the bosses

[peak verge]

Oh

[lyric glen]

xD

[peak verge]

Mb pimp

[lyric glen]

I was about to ask you wth am I doing wrong to not get a key per kill lmao

[warm holly]

@bronze kestrel firstly, the only character that should be getting luck is your vman. For every other character that stat is not at all important

Secondly, at your point in the game I would definitely be getting main stat for your upgrade stones

[stray hull]

well saying it isnt important isnt true as it affects drop rate. But in general yes vman main stat is luck and ignore on the rest if one is still early on progression and lacking talent points

[warm holly]

It affects drop rate very little compared to actual drop rate. I think it's fair in saying it's "not at all important", and not wanting to give off the impression that it is

especially if all we're talking about is upgrade stones

[stray hull]

Ah I dont see that person's question about stones but yes in that case 100% dont use stones to try and give anyone other than vman luck. that is 100% useless

[warm holly]

yeah sorry lol I dont even know if it was right to migrate the discussion over to here from w6 chat but I didnt want my messages deleted

[graceful ore]

the other week when I was getting plants in Gaming, they were worth a ton and I was able to progress fast but it has slowed down again since then but I dont know why.

could it have been one of the world 2 town weekly bonus things or could it be something else that I may have disabled or taken off my characters?

[stray hull]

ah that makes sense I even was searching in this channel to see what they may have been asking and didnt see it so I just went for it. all good

[bronze kestrel]

Yeah, we talk only about upgrade stones.

i'm gonna make only one kruk set for now, because damn it is expensive, but i want to use that set to help me push through specyfic rifts, maybe some achievements, and w5 hole stuff like hounds, so i was interested if i should just put upgrades on active char, or just get luck since i'll need it in future anyway

[warm holly]

gaming improvements often come in bursts

[warm holly]

There is a chance you might not be in the right talent set with your DK though

[stray hull]

So yea their advice is correct 1) use the stones that is for the main character currently using the armor and 2) there is no need for luck stones on any gear aside from the one set vman uses

[warm holly]

As his talents are the ones that give bonuses to gaming bit gain (and a lot of it)

[stray hull]

yea I would double check this but otherwise gaming comes in slow dissapointing bursts

[peak verge]

Gear alone won't carry you through something like rifts. You might be better off looking at other stuff like alchemy or talent levels.

[graceful ore]

I'll look into it. I haven't done any upgrading. I was saving my plant points for one of the upgrades but one day it seemed to slow down A LOT from the previous days

[warm holly]

how many kills per hour are you getting in these rifts if you know off hand

[stray hull]

as well as chizoar level gear wont take you far in rifts either even if it helps you for a couple of them now

[warm holly]

yeah if its an anomaly slowing down then likely a talents issue.

[bronze kestrel]

alright.

so not worth it, ditch armor, keep upgrading lvl 100 bubbles

[graceful ore]

that's most likely what it is. I definitely have the talents set switched

[warm holly]

imo the weapons are more important than the armor

[peak verge]

You can make a troll set for each class and keep switching it around (one for war, archer, mage and vman) but otherwise you're better off upgrading your weapon.

[stray hull]

well I mean if it is your best armor set then of course use it. but dont except it to be the solution to rifts 😉

[graceful ore]

ty! there's so much stuff in the game that it's so easy to miss/forget something lol

[stray hull]

and yea what Delgado said, try to start working on troll gear.

[warm holly]

or don't honestly troll armor is crazy expensive

[stray hull]

Well you want to because chizoar ends at chizoar, troll gear is the basis for the rest of the progression path

[warm holly]

I'm at skydoggies and everyones still rocking void

[peak verge]

You can get troll shirt and pants pretty easily all the way up to Divine. Shoes are more annoying because of clogs but not impossible. Helmet sucks ass tho.

[graceful ore]

I only made one troll armor set for now since its expensive and I switch it out with my other players until I get more sets

[warm holly]

look man nullo salt aint easy

[stray hull]

easier than waiting a year to kill doggies

[warm holly]

we gettin there (but I think Ill hold off on pushing my other characters through, took long enough with active bubo )

[peak verge]

Sometimes I wake up screaming in the middle of the night remembering that some people push W6 without multikill.

[warm holly]

(but this is what sucks about the new rule change because I feel like this discussion shouldnt even be taking place under the new enforcement policy, even though I don't think it's detrimental to the channel)

[stray hull]

I mean I didnt care about MK in w6 until after leek because it was actually a problem then

[graceful ore]

I'm far in W6 but I definitely need to focus more on multikill when I get back to it

[stray hull]

tbf, the rule didnt change, they just hadnt been enforcing it for far too long and things got really messy

[peak verge]

This "rule" happens once every so often, it lasts for a week until they figure they can't moderate that many people and then we go back to using the channels as "hey, my general progression is sorta around this world level and I'm not going to ask about Sigils in the w1-w2 chat". Nature heals, we move on, we repeat the cycle some months later.

[stray hull]

but yes we should return to W5 related question/answers

[bronze kestrel]

I skipped troll
skipped magma
and i'm earning materials for kruk armor, because it is finally good Drop rate/damage/respawn set, because i parked all my characters at leek spirit map, and started pushing w1-5 content.

I already can make couple troll sets, but why?

was planning to make one ( 1) set to be able to transfer it between my active character to boost my active playtime profits.

at rifts, unless i reach last one for sneak mastery, none rift is making anything for me right now, parked at construction mastery, Tho armor set will be help on dk orbs rifts or something.

And i count weapons as set. Atm i can craft couple of kruk weapons, thus my question. Armor pieces have all mats prepared, aside of bars, so i'm jsut time gated here at this moment

Tho i have better usage of materials than making 10 sets of armors, specially that 6 of my chars are non stop on afk content ( justice/bravery/afk island)

[stray hull]

I havent made a single piece of kruk armor. and the reason why you do troll is because that is the armor progression. troll is upgraded again and again to the end game armor. nothing else is

the weapons are the exception of course

[bronze kestrel]

Yeah, didn't knew it earlier, so i skipped them eitherway. no input from that answer

[stray hull]

also I only ever really made chizoar helm for the dmg boost. the only reason I ever made a full chizoar armor set was for the achivement. I never actually 'used' a full set on anyone

[bronze kestrel]

i did all achievements to unlock crafts from troll and kruk same time, that is 3 days ago

[stray hull]

no I mean the other achievement, the one to actually equip a set of it
edit well cant find it atm, lol. but there is one for efaunt as well which was the same case. never even made most of that set except for the achievement

[hybrid girder]

How long does it take to get divinity going?

[stray hull]

it is a long haul like lab. not as bad if you have doot though

[hybrid girder]

I doot not

[warm holly]

I'd say it's benefits become good pretty quickly, but it'll take a long long time to "finish"

[hybrid girder]

i didnt even finish lab

[stray hull]

I mean, you will eventually

[warm holly]

you will unlock a god that allows you to progress lab and divinity at the same time (the goat god)

[stray hull]

well 'finish' being nodes and chips and jewels

[hybrid girder]

yeah its been a bit and i still dont have 1 god unlocked

[stray hull]

yea goat will help for both but it still means lab jail again but it does help. also once you are above like lvl 60 in divinity it goes much faster

[peak verge]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[stray hull]

it is slow to ramp up much like most other 'minigames'

[hybrid girder]

ty

[regal cloak]

wheres the best are to farm golden hamster?

[stray hull]

Tremors wurms with bubo for cc or DK

[regal cloak]

thank you, running there now

[stray hull]

There is also a pinned spreadsheet for golden foods in iirc the w6 channel