#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Correct.
and almost got necesary damage
wild that you got that far with only 2 gods
how things have changed
I just got my third god I’m in world 6 like 4 areas in 😆
When is one "ready" to eclipse w1?
probably once you've done most other things ngl, since you'll need a fuckton of dmg and afk % even if you plan to burn through candies
it also help to have all lava skull on all mob before doing it too
Even Scoli has it in the "early w7 prep" section.
Is there an ideal harp setup?
If I made it to leek spirits do U think I'm ready?
Map progression has nothing to do with it.
The section is "stuff to do as early preparation for W7". That includes eclipse skulls.
You are far from being done with stuff so you can start preparing for W7. 
Well I thought it would be a good dmg pointer. But I understand what U mean now
Several, depending on how many strings you have and what notes you have unlocked.
Do lava on everyone first. It's gonna eat a good amount of candies but if you average 20M kills on the more populated maps with BB (so he can do his s.chows at the same time), it should be fine.
20m is quite a bit. Thanks! Back on the grind it seems 🙂
working on alchy, cooking, sailing and farming will probably give you a good chunk of the dmg needed
I didn't quite understand the dog cave part in the hole. Is it just about auto attacking until the dogs get too buff and end up filling the fear meter?
more or less, for the opals. there is also I think an engineering thing where its kill count on each player for another bonus
but yea basically getting as high score as possible
How to get gud at world 5
Do w1 to w4 stuff 🥲
Read the wiki, every post in the pinned messages, every major thread in #1084911530417606656, and every thread in #endgame-gen-chat
You'll soon become an expert of W5
:o
finally
Anyone know why I can't click Approve on this? I have enough coins...
Costs 3 coins if approved, costs 1 health if rejected,
I have the coins...
Did you get that guy who gives you coins/pop or whatever but you cannot approve anything for 3 days?
uhhh...well, can't go back and check now, but maybe I thought i had the one where you can't approve for timmy, but maybe it was the can't approve anything one...
Thanks, I guess it was one of those and I wasn't paying enough attention
@gray zinc that's the only way for it to happen, if you have the coin but cannot accept...
You did it with what odds?
2%
is the sb multiplicative dr multiplied by ur total dr?
Take a wild guess mate
no clue that's why i'm asking
It multiplies your Droprate by the amount displayed
Like if it’s 25%
And you have 10x DR
Than your droprate will be 12,5x
so 3.95 x 3
so the 15.8 x gets multiplied by my whole dr?
You have 15.8% droprate multi, so your droprate gets multiplied by 1,158
I think it’s displayed
my dr is 16.57
might want to check your math on that
Is 2440 a good stamp level for someone who’s not pushing w6 but is in w6?
multi by 1.58
I’m about to fall asleep you help him if yk
not 1000x
It’s 15percent
you typed out 1158
So multiply by 1,158
15.8% is .158 in decimal
Yea that’s a decimal, not a thousand
a comma for a fuckin decimal
I Write it as 1,158 where i live
It’s a decimal comma
not real
Some places use decimal commas
false
It’s a very real thing that a lot of people just don’t know about
A decimal separator is a symbol that separates the integer part from the fractional part of a number written in decimal form. Different countries officially designate different symbols for use as the separator. The choice of symbol also affects the choice of symbol for the thousands separator used in digit grouping.
Any such symbol can be called...
i do know about it but its not real
So Like Europe ain’t real
Bro please just shut up
What’s wrong with it
headass
what world are u in littleboy
Europe
💀
Because I use a comma for a decimal?? And because you don’t like my name? I really don’t get ts
exactly
I just began gaming. It's been 4 days and those plants (mushroom, bonsai, cactus) don't evolve past T3. Can they evolve to T4?
you get more evo stages unlocked later
also gets higher as you upgrade speed and evo chance
but right now, can they evolve or i'm just wasting time?
i thinm up to 4/5 times yes
wiki said 4 times. Guess just unlucky
Can someone help me defeat kattlekruk
35m dmg on dk and 30m on es
What ahout the healing?
so I just got fury relic, my max is book is 180 and I could possibly push tenteyecle above 200.. does that mean I could continue blasting with bubo? 
Yeah, tbh once tenteyecle gets to like 65%-70%~ its amazing
the breakpoint is also reached, it decreases cd by 3s instead of 2
once tenta reach 200 bubo rez becomes dumb, even more so when it goes way above that
we getting so close to 400 tenta :3
Idk what lvl you need for 3, but my tenta is lvl 207 and gives 3sec
200 is 3 sec
its actually 200, hence my question
anything above 200 will just improve the odds
maybe I'll push the CC bubble first, increasing some gains before actually doing it
yeah cc bubble will help, make sure to have alchy po box maxed too
Does the CC bubble get to a point where its so minimal its pointless to upgrade it?
yeah already done that
box is 400
mines 200 and I havn't noticed one really
this is 97%
thats juicy, no pun intended
Oh, I'm probably js gonna stop at like 250 or 300 then
Not that big an increase
any cc gain helps with water regenaration because of equinox
Yeah, i got that upgrade at 9/9
damn, that must be huge
i cba to prog equinox until i finish rift, 75 green stacks is so easy but like i just cant be bothered 😭
54/75 rn so maybe ill do it over the next couple days if i get lucky with maestro printer procs
75gs is still the easy one
yeah, most of my mob prints are already at like 1-2mil, i just really have not been bothered to do it 💀 💀
wait till the 200gs cloud pops
is that where people start stacking stuff like corporate subs
yup
corporate sub isnt all that hard to stack tho
I js want the nugget upgrade and the feux jewels things
Yeah, I got around 4mil already, but i finished the quest on my main dk so gotta do it on the other
its better to farm with es so you stil lgood
oh kk thanks
been maining es so i can finish getting leafy dropplets for all my marble gear
like still got the quest active on most of my character.
wonder which of the 3 is the hardest to farm
man I hated going back to rats because of instablobs
the cloud one is so free, im so glad i started working on stuff like crystal spawn chance way too early on in the game
now my life is such a breeze when it comes to crystal mob related things
this one is somewhat hard
The hardest part is remembering abt that area 😭

you need to get lucky with SB and get a plunderous mob to pop
i only have 113 plunderous mob kills, LOL
113 plunderous mob kills but 3mil DK orb kills 😭
you better have those 2 Ace
well that was one run for me, not quite ready yet 💔
it get easier has you get higher multikill
well ive been really unlucky when it comes to getting that one op emperor multikill card 😭
yeah rng can be a pain
Fr, and im not asked to spend gems on cards rn, I wanna get more farming plots since i only have the f2p ones rn
yeah more plots will help for farming, specially with getting back to speed aftera bean reset
Yeah, I got all the insta grow things first since im still in early farming, they're really helpful rn
Especially since I gotta get 200 stacks of things for more evo chance, insta grow is carrying that rn
I think youre js meant to spam it

for gaming, yeah do 0.1% attemps
yeah, think those were my first two
though, im still at berry bush, even after 4 months lol
i need to go back to the shrine xp one, ran out of gold bar and just moved on to something else XD
thats why the 0.1% research attemp, no point in trying to go higher than that, generally take too much time
i been doing that, still havnt gotten anything over bush 😔
and with many things in this game, just brute force it with quantity
also had 15k nugget for around an entire year now too lol
im really unlucky when it comes to gaming idk why
cuz gaming is an rng clusterfuck
yeah fr, thats why i want that nugget equinox upgrade, i feel like it'll help me
YOOO
Actually insane
💀
LMAO
i been at berry bush since september bro
If it makes you feel better
😭 😭
I had like 50 of the gaming garden 8 hour time skip things in my chest
Its fine, another 5 months will do the trick 😿
Just set that kitsune up and you’ll get it in time 😔🙏
i have bro, i been doing gaming with kitsune since the start of this month and still aint gotten it LOL
is there a quick way to buy max from shop cus im working on 75 greenstack dream
oh im blind XD thanks
np lol
Yes op
i guess 75 greenstacks is probably gonna require me to green the monster mats of w1/2/3?
Yeah but wood,ores,fish,bugs are also really easy to do
Now imagine level 400 tenteyecle 
All skilling ressources and mob drop
yeah ive been printing those too but theres only like 9/10 of the skilling resources
Maybe also food and pot from shops
so just planning out where to make up the others, yeah buying food now
you could just es farm some stuff
thats the plan
depends how long it takes u tho
my ES is near 1b dmg so shouldnt be too horrible for some of it
are you using the proper ability setup
Y’all is there a reason I’m not getting 1 billion from my sprouts 😭
kitsune?
yeah, also dont forget to turn off midas mind if youre wormhole farming
which has the more accurate villager exp/h, toolbox or the ingame sidebar
it's giving me like a 30h faster level time on toolbox than dividing the ingame values
?
from left to right: cc, revive, aura, ghost
you dont need the fourth one
ah I see
and you can remove cc if you dont want to/arent ready
you still need to level up the fourth one cus thats how your poison damage scales
i dont think cc gets used by auto
it does trust me
happened to me a lil too much
lol fairs
i havent actually bothered to use that one whoops, never paid attention to it, i really should revisit td just to up the msa bonuses
ur td aint even bad tbh, you could probs get the first 3 to 100+ tho
maybe, though it does spike up a bit every 10 levels so not actually sure, might revisit them soon but im lazy XD
nah td such a drag, i get it
i appreciate the game saying i got wave 70 on the later ones when really i stopped managing to kill things by like 68 
you have better td than me 💀
sounds like someones procrastinating worse than i am
once or twice for sure 
math... green bits are worth 1e18 white bits... you got a shit ton more than 1 billion white bits there
dawg hes nearly got better than me as well, i just realized 😭 😭
ive sat on full charge for weeks now 💀
i havnt touched a totem in like 3 months bro 💀
bruh at least go hit the quick worship to dump charge
tips only for you, use syphon charge
OHHHH
Ok I forgot there where white bits
yo, do you know what dr you need on dk for it to be better than bubo at money farming?
bubo is better anynway, more dr = more money
wait forgot that existed
id imagine bubo/es do better when it comes to respawning monsters due to the conditions for their respawns?
yeah for sure
though i suppose with certain maps the dk respawn condition can still pop off, bloques dk is how i got my 400 killroy after all
although for es, respawns slow a ton when no wormhole right?
yes
ye, thats why i run kruk weapons on my characters instead of upgrading to marble
can you guess my favoured class
nah, es dopamine still crazy, takes me like 10mins to greenstack gmush caps 🤤
damn, you got a lot of damage
don't worry had the same, I played my ES ALOT, tho after getting his achiev I went after DK's
nah, i think most ppl my lvl do more dmg than me, i js hard focus droprate tbh
ugh now we need a shop option to "buy to storage" this is pain with me only being able to hold 170k total food per inv
how much dr are you sittin on rn?
just an auto buy for shops at this point
this my stats for my main active farmer
And I think my es is like 15?
damn
HE'S 15 YEARS OLD AND CAN KILL GODS?
daamn
anime main character lol
15 years old and a proud gmush genocide enthusiast 😼
theres no easy way to greenstack the small mana/health pots are there? was considering the saucy logfries/ironbite for greenstacks
though crafting might take a while lmao
thats SB's job tho 
mc of an isekai anime 
SB too busy carrying my rift kills rn 🙏
why SB for gmush specifically?
And lvl 13 vials require some es action
doesnt SB have the highest afk kill/hr?
oh for afk? fair enough
Cus he has like rlly good multikill and u need him to do a lot of multi kill for this talent
I got no clue tho, just asking 
didnt realise multikill affected that
Which i should probably book now that i see it 💀
i need to farm plunderous kills eventually so i guess gmush is the place to go
oh right, that too
kinda cruel that there are 3 1mil achievements and only 2 of the classes can respawn stuff XD
wish we could respawn plunderous mobs frfr 😔
wait im dumb
ive barely used it can you tell 
in my defense last time i touched my SB he was low level and didnt have many points in talents
LOL, nah its cool, SBs respawn is ass so you technically arent wrong 😭
hes level 280 now though so i can actually max those talents out
this helps
oh yeah true true
I'm in this comment
just got the +25 talent level books unlock from sailing, now i just need the ancient one
i havnt redone a speedrun since vman dropped 💀 💀 but tbf, i only got back into idleon in september
i think youre not far off me then, i quit like a month after steam release, and came back a similar time
After you get the ancient just go straight for eldritch just to get it over and done with, thats what i did
Yeah, I started playing when ES dropped then quit like 4-5 months later
Its at rift
frick
i definitely am nowhere near finishing rift, i got the skill mastery and then dipped
i probably cant do this one
The self heal is insanely slow, but it heals to max so watch out
exactly why
eldritch is rift, sovereign is jade emporium
this is my bm damage for reference
Its like an instant proc to max tho, js kill it before it gets its respawn off
he doesnt have dmg stuff equipped right now though
Your crits will probably carry you, you can kill the snowman easy
The heals happen like every 15 secs or something so u can do it easy
well see when i get there at least, i just remember really struggling with the 2nd round of self healing when i was first pushing rift
just do those rift with ES and SB, they potentially have the highest dmg
That was the old Nemmy, the new Nemmy is back and better than ever fr
yeah true my 10th being a 2nd SB i can just cannonboom and lightning with es
ok, speaking of rift, I cannot get the lava skulls for the life of me. it's the one right before eldritch artifacts. any tips??
kill til skull spawns > kill skull > hope it spreads > repeat was what i was told
there it is
guys, anywhere that I can see some sailing tips? I'm trying to get sovereign artifacts but the 0,1% chance feels a little low for me, dunno if I'm doing something wrong
That one js takes time, bubo and dk should handle that
thank you... I let me bubo run on it for an hour like all the other ones and nothing
quantity > quality
but yeah slow anyway
have it saved on my phone 
i just loved the moment it was shown to me 
ofc acecow our goat
that was fresh made, just for you 
acecow and dadoums definitely some of the mvps who are most often answering my questions
thanks
Dadoums saved my breeding, the goat
if you want some really detailed sailing stuff i was shown this a while back https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
its got useful tabs for all sorts, breeding stuff, sailing stuff, tower defense etc
nice! thank you
i have it bookmarked and on a hotbar cus i pull it up quite frequently
!guide is also there
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
if you're at sovereigns, it's really just turtle vial + enders and as many chests as you can get
i love how a while back i was told about troll armour and thought to myself "9000 nullo will take forever" ive still not even killed troll more than once for w5 and now im at this stage
i should really farm material bag upgrades so i can leave anvil afk for longer, though with SB active im not even sure how important that is by comparison
being on 5 red salts is so real, my red salts are rank 21 and my orange one is rank 18 💀 💀
ive been levelling up my attack shrine in construction cus i got the equinox dream for 140 shrine total so yeah
i just saw that, kek
which bonus should i get now?
The first blue one
good ol blues
16 minutes progress guys 😄
top right blue 
the 4 one?
27 opals on my explorer, i need 3 more for the next jump in xp
did u spend ur red on the vial or something?
Damn nice, I get so unlucky when it comes to getting obols from bravery istg 😔
ive only had 2 from bravery myself
always running out of red
red 
shifted people off the lab/div jail onto bravery for a bit, though not sure what milestone i want to get on bravery before i put them back
thats a nice amount of salt tho, wish I had that much
Js get the jails over and done with tbh
at what point are they "done" though 
24000hrs 
Well for me, it was when i got my chars lvl 100 lab and the last div god
havnt touched them since
I'm currently pushing 750hrs, should be done tomorrow
i did the 5m one, then just been leveling orange some
i'm barely logging into other characters, so not that many omni procs
yeah i got to omni with div then wanted to push bravery, lab levels are 64, 58, 61, 62, 70, 55, 53, 56, 56, 54 so not bad levels
banking up afk time for update?
theyll be back to lab jail after bravery dont worry
I love refinery so much, i wanna get like those crazy 2k-3k red salt ranks and watch the numbers go up 🤤
but im rank 21 😔 😔
no, just lazy
they're just all chilling in justice and I hate it. though i'm 500 hours off from 10k bonus
atleast u can use it as a excuse just like me 
statues are holding so much space in my chest i cant wait to get to dk grinding so i can onyx and dump these
i want those pages from the w5 shop but i dont know just how far off i am from that kinda money
well ok i didnt mean in terms of denomination XD i meant in terms of how far through w6 im gonna need to be to start getting that kinda money
how much money you have?
only like 12 green
welp anyway with like a week or two or CC farm I could only buy like 3 or 4 page
and right now im bleeding money for shop greenstacks anyways
more gmush 
whats gmush do for money? a friend of mine mentioned something scaling off gmush kills, was that it?
lab node
it's the solution to all money problems, straight up
i swear i forget 80% of lab nodes
dang just the bribe, already got that 😦
If I buy the drink to never become unpopular, what will happen if the drink comes up a second time but I reject it?
nothing
I got doot back in W2 and only finally unlocked W5, now I finally understand why he's so good
You might understand, but you don’t KNOW. You gotta go without doot to KNOW
guess I'll never know then 
I’m a dooter why you hating on me
no you I like you you're fine
you'll grow to like me it's okay

he gotta go from normal link, to having pocket div to understand it all, then doot to be relieved
Dootless with pocket div shouldn’t be too bad
Not that I would know
I've also only unlocked god 2 so far so I probably don't even understand the full extent of how lucky I am
yeah its alright
with doot no need to unlock gods
huh
I didnt get the major link bonus before unlocking the god
no need to brag 
true sorry I just been wondering waht all the fuss was about up till now
Is there a max level to Measurements in Caverns?
10
well not max level but its last bonus
Leveling it past 10 does nothing?
multikill 🤤
just prepping for future update
there is no more bonus after 10
Bubonic conjuror
Shit you'll need atleast 50m
like late game player will reset opal and put all in explorer to be 15 asap and before the next cavern update
I have doot and I feel so superior to everyone else. It’s simply the best thing in the world. I don’t even know how I would live without it
Is there any way to calculate how many of a resource is needed to level up those measurements, or a table of recorded values somewhere?

don't know about that but wiki has the list of the ressources needed for it
well don't worry about the amount just get tons of it
Noooooo you can’t do that. That would mean I have one less person to brag too. It will make me sad
I got Crystal Custard for my first pet pull (I was disturbed for a week cuz it's creepy/I don't like looking at it XD) and got that 2nd tier reward event Title from the Christmas event on my first try
Never got higher tier rewards in either yet
This might have it
#endgame-gen-chat message
I says No Access and doesn't let me visit it
you got snowflake title on 1st day? 💀
way to lock yourself out of gems
Yes 💀
xddddd Lava's ways
Yep
Thanks, purposefully never reacted to just that one to avoid spoilers. lol After playing the game, not sure what even reasonably is something I'd consider a spoiler
Bubo does not use any weapons, right? cuz of reach limitations?
Alternatively Boxing Gloves
huh 
Are all of these ntoes in the game / obtainable? Even though they don't have a use yet. I noticed some of the Engineering rewards are listed but unreleased
I'm at the green note rn
so definitely obtainable
Boxing gloves has a reach limit of 55 and can be equipped by any class. Unsure if that's better than barehanded but I usually hear people saying to have that for Bubo
Higher tier fisticuffs are Beginner-only though and have higher reach
so weird tho, lustre wand has 195 reach
Better equip glove
I dont understand the tech behind this but made myself a pair of gloves 
Bubo has that aura skill that casts an aura on the ground. If you use a weapon with long reach the bubo stands in the same location for longer. But if you use boxing gloves or other short reach weapons then the bubo has to run around more, thus causing the aura to be more spread around, thus hitting more enemies.
I heard that it is better to wand if you have high levels into the aura
just godshard wand, since the reach is much lower than the others
with long reach weapons bubo is also more likely to stay in a corner, wasting half the range of its aura
So does leveling this higher than 10 give no higher bonus than 10, then? Despite the total bonus appearing higher onthe right?
200 tent 
tent? 
it also cant cast it without being close to an enemy
the level 10 was the measurer villager level. those bonuses don't have a cap afaik
The bonus on the right will always be higher
And yeah like ace said it’s the villager level I was talking about earlier
How do you unlock Blobby G in Sailing?
Sailing artifacts
Precisely emerald relic from 3rd island
Ahh thank you!!
Ah... I didn't notice that they walk and spread it. I thought you got the better AoE with some buffs further down or something.
Aoe gets larger (+1 aura) every 35 level of the talent
Hi, Q:
If you're active farming, do u get any benefit from TRANQI (meditation), i can't seem to be getting any divinity exp.
Gotta get from afk claim I think
I feel like I keep coming back to this question but... When do you guys start grinding for level 7 and 8 gaming plants? I'm just pushing for 7 and I've been at the same exact screen for about a week now...
what's your fert speed displayed at?
Here's some T8 info
#endgame-gen-chat message
1.2 minutes and have unlocked 5 second gaming. According to my copy of the gaming stats sheet thing, I think I realized I'm far too early to be pushing for T7 plants... 4 years and about 8 months to guarantee it...
I wouldn't even attempt to actively go for T7 until you've got instant
Ah 😦 That sux it didn't mention it in the description, Thank u tho
I was just leaving 15 plants at full growth and letting my log roll. I had one plant take freaking forever to grow from 5 to 6, sticking out like a sore branch. (It's a bonsai that I am working on.)
So yeah, I think I'm 'still' too early.
If you're at 5s, feel free to get all your T6s if you haven't already, or just let them naturally come. I've gotten them all and half my T7s just from natural play cause i cba to manually harvest plants
Cba?
can't be arsed 
Oh.
oh, guess i'm just missing one t7 now 
Was less then 5k that one was @bleak gazelle
yuge
Copper ore went from 24m to 27m @bleak gazelle
CC at OJ Bay is kinda 🥵 ngl
when wurms 
I wish I didnt need a f'in phd for timing defender attacks
If I go to the Harp, strum all but like 1 or 2 of the strings, go to the basecamp for the Measurer, then go back to the Harp. Did I miss out on a chance to strum those 1 or 2 strings?
you lose the charge
well, did you rethrow?
before the 81k yeah
there is your answer
alright
yeah but i thought it would apply the debuff before attack and not after
but it did
you threw 81.200, you lost 1 rethrow, max damage went lower
oh wait, nevermind, english is hard and I'm tired
I mean, if you look at it, you have 5 rethrows when you attempt it again, so it only makes sense to give all the damage
atleast this makes sense 
you're technically right. the damage roll probably just occurred before the damage reduction took place
whether by design or bug, who knows
maybe thats also a snapshot effect, idk
it makes sense to do it before, otherwise you are saying your last rethrow should put your damage below the base damage
Is there a point to getting immortal snail past 100 for the 100% chance?
i assume you mean the superbit, yes because you can get more than 1 mail at a day, 120% is 1 mail per day and 20% chance at 2 mails per day
yeah, sweet thank you!
i have a 70% chance to get 2 mail each day, some people have a chance at a 3rd even
Isn’t that 70% change for 3 mail
can you level the Snail past level 25 (Im at 22 now, just curious)? The stars in the Sail UI seem to indicate that it does not, but the Atom collider Sodium seems to indicate that it does level past 25
im not discussing anything about warns/mutes
@junior arrow Every time I see your name I feel like catching up to one piece, haven't read since ueno started
pings mod in question channel and makes an off topic comment
What a power move
Ah crap, mb
damn, im still tryna hit 1 mil for copper..
Rare chest or loot which are better for captain?
My copper is almost 28m printing
howww
Sorry can not take screen shot of my main getitng bad storms here now
dont worry! i play the game weird so slowly getting eff up so printing is more
can someone explain why multikill bonus to dragon statue drop rate from gloomies only works when afk, not when actively killing them?
anyone know why i can't buy it. Wiki says its 2 red is this a bug or?
on PC it shows 1 red bit, on mobile it apparently shows 2 red bits 
lol
Sometimes I can't tell if Lava's inconsistencies are intentional typos (feels like a thing he'd do) or accidental
Typi-cal typa typo if you type gold dust a lot consecutively.
I think that one is intentional bc you wouldn't type the dot accidentally, but idk how it's written in the code
Wait what dot. I was referring to the use of "Goldust" and "Golddust" with varying amount of d's in the same feature lol
How does Arctis (2nd God) work exactly? button says unlink so I interpret that as being linked to it? Although I'm also linked to snakey (also says unlink on button). My dudes are NOT active in the lab mainframe
anyone here that havent megareseted owl in months?
do we have a new chart for ideal encouragement of the snail, post all these small improvements from the hole
I abandoned the owl and kangaroo after getting all the big bonuses 
I think you can check which div they are linked to in main menu
Did you say no to more drop rate?
I understand. However its important to say hello once in a while. A relationship is about give and take. Or one day they might abandon you too.
Thanks. Snake over all my guys not sure if my sheepie allowed me to have 2 or something. My daily reset is coming up so just want to ensure I get bubble thingie from lab
It was around a time where I had other things to catch up on so it wasn't entirely intentional
Ah, not sheepie doesn't. If you want too, you can unlink from snake and put on arctis. Then start pushing a bit of Hole for pocket divinity, allowing you to equip a second
At least that's what I went with
Haven't quite figured out hole yet. Always get kinda overwhelmed each time I reach a new world.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DTamBfMkse9LSBLShw9_a5cTqRLLHxYuyMMb2Af6gcQ/edit?usp=sharing
thx bae
king behavior.
here u dropped this 👑
I mean in the superbit cost, typing 1e+36 vs 1.8e+36 or whatever notation the internal code has
the one you posted also looks kinda on purpose
Should I just keep spamming gaming garden until I unlock the final plant? Rn my plant growth rate is pretty much instant after harvesting
by final plant you mean unlocking chems, right? if so, yes, you should spam the research after every collect all
no problem
hi guys.
i've opened 13th island (15m distance) and now struggle with sailing speed. all my boats have around 2.5m/hr speed.
What is the best priority now to boost sailing speed ? divinity -> captains -> max cards -> food -> vials -> alchemy -> stamp ?
or I should forget about lvling up all boats and boost speed only for first 3 boats, use them for searching artifacts in last islands and use other boats to farm gold to upgrades first ?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
I believe both IE and IT have some sailing recommendations but thats overkill. I just go by if it takes more than 3+h to get to a island its probably sub optimal.
i already have 50% from stamps, maxed cards, partially maxed gods, vials at 10th lvl etc.
i mean that now probably i do not have simple sources to increase sailing speed by 300% even by summing it up from differen sources.
thats why i am asking about the best strategy at this point
send fast boats to later island, send slower boats to islands to upgrade them
move boats when you can
thats slowwwww, i have to be patient again ?
Aye Probably just upgrading boats.
just buy these daily 
You could try getting better TD waves or the meal for it but thats probably not fast either.
Farm more Ghampters and lvl the bubble for sailing time.
ye, and check guys every hour to increase Omniphau procs
i thought you have sacred knowledge 
Never payed that much attention to it. Poor Qwaser has well over double my artefact find chance and still didnt finished sailing yet,
how much damage do you need for nightmare kettelkruk
or does it not matter cause the moles dont get tankier ?
depend on the class i would say, i dont think the mole hp increase, but more dmg will make it better let say for BB or vman
Now that I have all the artifacts, how should my sailing strategy change? Is there one island I should put all my sailors on? Or should I spread them out? Is it good to use the chest upgrade talent or not?
all sovereign ?
3-5 t enough on es ?
will take bit since he got 1Q hp but should workout as long as you kill the moles
whats a bit
below 30 mins ?
a lot less than that, thinking prob like 10 min depending on your crit rate
Holy, I got chemical and evergreen in the same day
evergreen this morning and chemical just now
well theres goes your luck
It's a game changer to collect at 0.1, thanks @broken grail
seems like strongest multipliers are goat and purrmep blessings blessings and ballot bonus. then Purrmep minor, two cards, and bubble are in a group, then everything else is in another group (bagur blessing, arti, stamp, statues, meal, vial, skill mastery, worship, star sign)
not counting captain/boat values*
whats the chance of chem plant spawning?
i have 14 already just waiting for the last 1 for equinox
to small when you want one, to often when you want to get rid of them
does sprinkler spawn chem plant?
it can
What's the best class to farm the gloomie mushrooms in the hole?
How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Dragon Warrior Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message
Active farm on a Siegebreaker with crystal setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with everyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746
TL;DR - More DR equal shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim. Expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range for 30x DR, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x
Nvm
i flipped the DR and time cause it felt more natural for w/e reason
at least if i didn't want to type more words
Why would it say drop rate and then hours range, hours range and then drop rate, drop rate and then hours range
It's confusing 
hey, both the last two are hours then DR
Eh, last one was hours first
See, I alr got confused
I changed it 
These are really just for the slab at this point.. Right? I'm at lustre gear atm, was thinking about a better chestplate for my miners. Contemplating those, but then realized lustre gear had better all around base, with more upgrade slots.
I already claimed three of these and still hasnt disappeared from the drop table, got three more. I havent even unlocked anvil tab 4 yet lmao.
Keep claiming them. They all point to different craft recipes iirc. And anvil tab 5*, not 4.
Well if you use the recipes but the still come it means it’s a recipe for a different item that you hadn’t got before
Lustre 
Hey now, the frigid souls came late. 😦 I'm making the progress now in tab 4. I'm at starfire tools and collecting the mats for tab 5.
Ive been spending a few days having everyone push W3 for that chizoar helm, it is worth it right? Instead of dic jail
I already got bear
Start going toward troll gear on one char then all
thats the thing. I got the adept recipe from Suggma and Mister Brightside and still didnt dissappear from the drop table.
Hmm it should, I also didn’t have anvil tab 5 unlocked but the recipe I learned disappeared I reckon
I'm not there yet unfortunately. I'm lacking w4 merit shop points. Just fixed my cooking, so getting a good source of points there then gonna go achievement hunting soon for even more points.
yup, just claimed the one i got from Fire Spirit and its still there in the drop table unfortunately
Even if you refresh the map?
When you say claim, you mean you're holding down on it right?
yes
Yeah just don’t mind it anyway for now if you’re still pushing w5
just pushing on one character anyways
Yee
how is this unlocked
explorer level 10
ah
if you found this from the caverns wiki you could've guess it a bit tho
i tried to look for it but couldn't find it
is there any best thing someone would suggest getting, i was thinking to get conjuror points over double xp to get more strings
last cavern from glowing mushroom so 10t0
exp it is
exp is better huh
yee
1.5x accuracy requirement
I just leave my exp on the measuring guy.. not sure what to focus on but hopefully this update brings caves 11-15
@bleak gazelle I had very bad storms last night here so my wifi playing up now here
i should finish this vial 
same
i somehow gained 5 greenstacks and can only figure out 3 of them
One of them is your omitted
A gold pull ofc lmao
i want the achievement
Fix what exactly? Is it your DPS or something else?
if u changed maps u may not have enough accuracy to get the damage bonus
hit on the outer 20% of the paddle (but not the corner) for more scores, recenter as the ball goes away from you for shorter response time
are you in town in one but outside in the other?
alr ty
I have uh 31 points for conjuror for the hole, what's the prio/if anyone has a list of stuff after 11 points?
#1303761365273415700 should have a section for it 
I haven't unlocked sovereign yet. I also haven't unlocked the remaining lanterns yet. But I have full Eldritch.
can this bug out.......i only had 90 pickles on me
i don't think i've killed a single one
best thing to do would be to try to upgrade your boats so you have better stats for when you unlock sovereign
okay i'm convinced it's bugged
it is idleon 
I'm a chocochip gamer now 🤤
A new era has thus begun!
90 is a pretty big increase
nah, he had the damage for it and spent the time. think it was that untargetable bug that we saw a bunch of early on in w6. haven't seen it in a while though
Could be 🤷 I know a lot of people think the pickles stack less than they do (i.e. 1.1 * 90 instead of 1.1 ^ 90)
4Q damage with 2.1QQ boss hp with 90 pickles and maxed midas that he had 
err, 4QQ damage actually
Whats the Factor, that the DNA for new plants gives more percentage? Somehow, at some point i didnt need sooo many for the new plantchance to be over 10%
I know, the more DNA I have, the better the chance, but something was different
not sure what the actual formula is, but if you're on the last two, just roll at 0.1%
I only need Chemical plants.-.-
then i'd roll after every harvest
infinitely faster 
8 more to go…
nah, 2 is all you really need, any more is just qol
I need mod developers
i've killed them with 200pickles/200 grey ones i reduced the pickles cause i kept messing up my orb
wha
Dice roll hit like 69 or aomething
is there a noticeable difference between kruk armor and magma armor in sampling
why magma when you can marbi 
from what i heard the all stat gear simply isn't worth the effort nowadays
Does harp power fill up slower for each multiple of 100% you have?
it cant be just me that feels like this is a god bonus right?
For divinity, the style mantra, in order to get exp, do I have to have the characters on the divinity pedestal or can they all be off it?
The one using the style needs to be meditating. It'll give the exp as stated.
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
got it, thanks
how much worse is it to farm wurms in terms of numbers with sb, i just want to get keys alongside plunderous mobs
try it out and tell us
i was gonna leave it running overnight just wanted to see if anyone knew
im guessing its a lot worse but i have everyone else lab jailed for 2100
i'm assuming pretty bad since it's 3 platforms and i don't think your bombs can reach the uppers from the bottom
so bad aoe becomes worse
alrighty i will report my findings to u tomorrow :))
300k to 11m nugget wtf
W
i have lvl 20 seashell and still do not have chemical 😭
@bleak gazelle look at what I just got
finally 
What level to get each meal before change the one cooking? @bleak gazelle
50

update hype
2 more days
there isn't a set date yet, is there?
Still pretty exciting if u ask me
Not sure if can get them that high yet
Im assuming its every same day of the week during weekly updates, unless im wrong and its tmr
´whats the best character to farm hampters ?
i only got 8 dr tho
Then you have bigger priorities than "who to farm with". 
the hampters are for getting godshard weapons to increase DR ofc 
Then he only needs 200. 
I get the feeling that card DR doesn't snapshot anymore 😵💫 I left it in the CDR preset by accident for like 20 min and I got so many more cards
will do a test now
welp time to resample
both are the same image, I think the second image was meant to be second page or prints
wait till next week for the golden food bonus from ballot
it is? 1 Shows 156Mil logs and the other is 202Mil
also why resample for like 50M more? that's baby stuff
ahh yeah idk my discord wasn't loading the images clearly bc shitty wifi rn so I thought the numbers were same
im hard stuck 8 characters on mama trolls man im looking for more gains and increasing vials and atoms
Yeah but 50M? That's nothing.
es and dk?
You're looking for this sorta stuff before it's worth resampling. Hell, even 5x would suffice.
Vman and bubo.
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=RuleOutlaw idk what im doing wrong man, my prints cant increase that much for some reason and salt locked
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
Wrong link.
is it?
i havent updated that one 1 sec
love you too ♥️
ok i updated it https://ruleoutlaw.idleonefficiency.com

this is fine for sampling right?
You have the Herus sheet?
have no idea what half those so I'll say yes
25% afk gain for the nametag
if you have the keychain chip then maybe the key is better in the upper slot
now I'm mad at the roulette
@fickle lake Check your IT, what's your print size?
90%
72% (18%)
Good
I wanna remove royal sampler soon but yeh
I'm still checking.
Imma go shower first insult my account as much as you want 
I mean autoreview will tell you about those
hey guys, I just unlocked justice, should I initiate a run now with a 4.5x multiplier or wait for the bonuses that the hours will grant me?
Ideally you'd get 750 hours in it since justice is pretty rough until you get the hang of it but at the same time you might as well just do some practice runs every day to see how it works while waiting on those hours.
start it and go with your feeling with each action or read wiki for what each thing does
also is it me or you bought the 12h thing from wish?
which one?
ah maybe you didn't unlock it
that one you can exchange 2 wish for 12 monument hours
ahh okay x)
i haven't bought it yet :|
i just left my fella afk for 13 hours
cuz i went to sleep
then don't x) better save wish on other things than that
yep, i wouldn't do that anyway no worries
xp
im saving my wish for the 36 unlock, im currently at 34 wishes
does using golden clocks get you wishes as well?
no
late/end game player with tons of those getting one bazillion wishes 
:||||
not that I know of at least, don't remember anyone saying its possible at least
lets fucking goo 
ah hell yeah, that's awesome. i should do some upgrades to my guys as well
im really trying to rush this off, but its hard :||||
I just realized I may have lost some charge while upgrading my skulls 
only reason I have one maxed is thanks to the x5 gold balls event while also upgrading the golden balls gains inbetween
i only got to upgrade the golden balls thing fully
didnt have many balls
did you rush the golden balls one first ?
yes
dreadnaught or riot
also congrats on ur fight against arachnophobia
gimme 7 slush skull then
Thanks a lot ! was tough but i’m glad i did it
I have like 4 stored but I have to advance my w5 souls TD
You're missing the skill efficiency multiplier from summoning but summoning is pretty rough overall so I'll give you a pass. Try your best to unlock Cyan since the bonuses there + endless help you snowball the rest of your summoning.
Bite the bullet, get your highest DR possible and throw some 2/4 hour candies (1h might not work as well but you can try) at Clammies in W4 to get enough pearls for each char's main tool and it should be smooth upgrading up to Marble (included). Lustre is too low for this point in the game.
You still need to onyx your fishing and catching statues.
Don't forget to max out your relevant star talents. (Bubo for instance has 7/50 on simmer, 80/100 on skill frenzy and less on TP postage). Also try to get more than book lvl 72 on supersource.
Book the relevant talents, especially the Vman hands (check Scoli) and use the Herus sheet for sampling.
If your DR/crystal chance is good enough, go get your relevant 10k beanstalks. (mining, max hp and fishing)
Lowkey can't spot much else but then again everyone is on their combat presets and IE is slightly less detailed.
(also you have 2 BB instead of 2 ES so rip a lot of atoms from that alone)
wasnt as small of a roast as i was expecting and thx for the advice
Your account is surprisingly ok put together. Idk how I jumped from 95M to 995M but to my knowledge that's kinda the intended experience assuming you don't resample once a week.
Check Scoli and follow the advice there, that's pretty much the skilling cookbook.
1.5 hours to go 
‘Surprisingly ok put together’ Never thought i would hear those words, yeh my acc is kinda bricked in terms of literally everything
How so?
Everybody in W6 at mama troll ive seen are in marble gear and having hourly clicks, while their salt productions are like cracked with 100% uptime
I told you my acc is bricked

oh yeh true 1 sec
Do this achiev bc it's sitting on my brain.
uh… how?
like literally i cant i dont have the capacity
good enough?
Pardon?
Brother man you have 500k on your bubo with a shit bag. Don't play with me.
Yes. 
… that explains alot….
dem i rlly should try testing more 
Doesn't the stack need to be in the chest?

Goofy
The cog board.
Ok, that's a different problem.
Remove literally everyone, leave only the DKs on the board.
And you hit the farming setup with the other 8.
uh… is there a mechanic that i dont know?
You need cog slaves for better xp cogs. DK stay on board because they provide the majority of the construction rate.
Use this while you're still unlocking the board.
it plummetted by quite a bit
so when it comes to farming via afk (Inefficient, I know...) does having the midas mind prayer provide any benefit in regards to farming up hampters, since they aren't affected by multikill?
Show cogs by xp.
If you would consult the graphic.
Truly mb pimp, I overlooked alchemy hard.
Hourly click is fine if you're not lazy but otherwise start atoming them. The w1-w2 ones are very cheap in terms of atoms.
I do suggest keeping a seperate set of cogs just for build rate, but do youself a favor and trash absolutely everything that does not have 65% on player exp or build rate. It is not worth the hassle of sorting out your 63% and 64% over an over again...
I don't think he's getting 60% on average at those construction levels.
don't those %s remain static regardless of construction level, and the only major thing that's affected is the base stats itself? It's why construction exp is prioritized, because the base exp bonus increases while the player exp buff is just randomized entirely.
I might be wrong, but that's how I thought it worked.
Sounds about right then.
stats are based on highest construction level, whereas it says nothing about scaling on the boost effect.
I'm not talking about directionals tho. Just regular xp % on most of his cogs.
Ooooh. My bad on the misinterpretation.
@fickle lake also go book your entire account that's under "High Priority" for skilling. (unless you're missing >10 points)
The sampling buffs you get from these are insane.
mk
still not enough talent points
I will bite your spine off.
let him do W3 achievement before using the 20-books checkout
It's just +5 max level. He can technically spam them one at a time but the sooner he gets the 30% extra charge rate, the easier to snowball.
as in not enough talent points to put inside of the talents
maybe i need more levels
Prioritize those points first of all. Your bubo is all over the place. Idk about the others but this ain't looking good.
ah right, that was when i thought the skills also boosted afk gains should prolly talent reset heh
Horrible advice
perfect 65% directional cogs are very rare. You need to settle for lower numbers or you'll never get started
I might have 4 at 65% out of the 26 or however many directionals points at my main DK.
lmao who made this? This is nice. I'm currently aiming for more exp cogs now but also trying to not tank my flaggy rate until I get the whole board unlocked then it's a whatever.
Kaito did.
The reason I say stick with 65% only is because when you farm out your cogs, you will find directional cogs with the exp stat too, but since the bonus exp buff is multiplicative, you want to prioritize that first. As such, it saves your sanity with farming cogs because if you have a directional cog with 65% players exp and 40% base exp stat, no directional cog with 0% base exp is going to help you, which saves you the hassle of turning off your trash cog setting and checking the cog. Now, yes, getting a 65% + x% exp is very very rare, but if you're popping out 6, 7, or 10 cogs at a time, that's a lot of cogs you can find in a short span of time.
It's a sanity thing more than anything else, but having max stats is just always a plus.
My point is this new player you're giving advice to doesn't even have all slots unlocked. What you've said is so far out of their scope of reality
They're not chaining cogs nonstop. They're not sitting on 65%s everywhere.
I have over 2k cons level and again I still only have a small handful of 65%s. It is just unrealistic to say to only use 65 or nothing lol
yeehaw 
Get on Snow-Obsidian's level, you newb.
Also, to new players directional exp is strictly better, but recently the people with over lvl 2k can replace their directional cogs for other directional with worse directional exp if they have a better base exp #endgame-chat-w7🐟 message
that isn't even a recent thing. y'all just haven't been checking 
🤷 i heard about it yesterday so to me its recent
actually i heard about it earlier but i just considered for 60% directionals that'd be the case
fair, it's a lot of hassle to check, especially when the difference is so small at lower levels
For a new player, yes, this is a bit high up there, but at the same time, this is something to work towards, and I'm not saying skip everything that doesn't have 65% if you have empty spots, obviously fill those in. Furthermore, it should be addressed that an increase of let's say 100% in a single cog can also be obtained by upgrading your other exp cogs to make the difference, and even then, once you find a god-roll cog, which do exist and can be moderately common, that cog effectively becomes irreplaceable. Are they rare, of course, but they are there. I have a corner cog with 65% build rate and 49% exp, a cog that I deem irreplaceable. Yeah, it's not dual exp, but for the needs that I have these cogs for, it's what I'm going to use.
Overall, when it comes down to optimizing your cogs, it still falls under personal preference and how much you want to micromanage your stats. I am willing to go for the mix-max setup and am prepared to spend hours and hours clicking cogs to find the ones I need. Not everyone is going to want to do this, but for me, I will, and I'm putting sanity up there in my priorities.
It's work, I won't say it's not.
can you give me some tips for W5? just unlocked it
Check pinned messages
I allready dont like the divinity prison xD
Just bite the pillow, it's gonna be over before you realize. 
Things Delgado has always wished he could say for 500, Alex.
Did you use the autoreviewer?
Just got to w5
What should be the first thing to focus on
^ use scolis tool
put all your ppl in divinity jail except your main, and push dem maps
Did exactly that
Welcome in
check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
its similar to lab , but you have to gamble to unlock the nodes and have to pick which ones are active
What do i buy, 1 point or 25
general practice is to spam the cheapest option available until it randomizes to 100%
nope, but the 2 options available randomize each time
and theres a 100% unlock that costs a ton of points
yeh, why its a jail ):
but you'll gain levels and unlock new "styles" that give you a ton more points per hour
yeah, it's kinda timegated now
Any advices with divinity progress?
uhhhh make sure you book/upgrade the talent for it on one of your ES's, theres a sailing artifact or 2 that impacts it... but otherwise uhhhh wait and be salty about it lol, very few things impact your point generation in div esp once you unlock the best style... so its a VERY slow process
and for being early into w5, have all of your guys link to (choose to keep active) the blue bear god except for your main who you should link to with the yellow bug
only thing I've truly been neglecting is the smithing points but those are also diminishing returns so...
I guess at least i got some time to relax now lol
Been sweating this game up until now
honestly until you get to w6 you have a pretty straightforward path, just dump all your candy and effort into your main to push further maps
cause the bonuses you unlock in later worlds will invalidate putting a lot of time into alts
So basically do divinities / lab until w6
Whenever you're timegated, you should work on bubbles.
Sounds like fun
Hole too 
#1303761365273415700
once you unlock the first couple of divinities it might be more beneficial to put all your alts into Hole jail
hole I've been working on
What for?
Lol did you never even go in the hole? It'd take five seconds to realize it's nothing like Owl/Roo


then try again
