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im guessing auto attack talent usage goes in order of tab 1 - 2 - 3?
i dont like how i click the down arrow and it goes from 1 to 3
yeah the left to right bit was obvious was just curious about the number bar order, cus for some reason clicking down goes down in number which feels counterintuitive
finally committed and made my 10th char a 2nd siege breaker so i can just get this 250 equinox out of the way
excuse me, i have a question
yes to always use cat and i dont think you wanna wait on maxed evolution ever, but you can see in the log book in top right of gaming what youve discovered, which will let you tell by visuals if its 5th evo or not
ok but wouldnt cat dractically decrease the amount of bits i get
no, its 4x faster for 1/3 bits
reduce how much u get but increase how many plants enough to make it better
anyway to remove a shrine from a map?
so its 4/3
just place it on another map
it decreases by 3x always but it increases the speed, which gives you a higher tier with gives you more bits
i got that artifact
so im still a bit dumb with talent spending, should i just max out the boot talent here at this point?
why would you wanna remove any shrines tho? just askin
thank you
also having two siege breakers, does archlord of the pirates stack?
Are there more than 6 improvement methods in bell
so cleaning bell is useless after the i get the 6th one?
at the moment it's technically useless after the first 5 
wait none of them stack? damn i have shared beliefs levelled on both my elemental sorcerers
ah well i got a billion reset fragments
let me out of this mole shaped hell
Umm why do we renew the bell i haven't really noticed any changes
When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in a bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can view the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.
understood so i should not touch renew until i get that
once you reset, you may need to reset again further down the line. AutoReview will tell you (or you can do the math yourself, potentially)
thanks π
oh i dont actually know waht auto reviewing thing is where and how do i use it
i cant get any more pop obols theyre all silver now but hey, pretty number
Did you reroll them?
!review - this will use your IE or IT data to give you a somewhat guided account review
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
you need to have an Idleon Toolbox or Idleon Efficiency account. Then the site will read your account and suggest improvements
oh ok thanks
oh ya i got both of those
AutoReview will work best with your IT JSON data, though if you're mobile only, maybe have to use your public IE data
can you elaborate on the reroll part?
Good because if you used the steam login recently then you canβt use any of those
do they actually have varying dr?
When you get the bronze obol it have 3 DR you want to reroll for +1 DR so 4 DR
theyre all silver now not bronze anyways did i screw myself?
You reroll one bronze obol to 4 dr then fuse it with a random one to have a silver 8 dr (itβs 8 right?)
Well you reroll from bronze because itβs cheaper
lmao ok all my silvers are 3% ive wasted a whole day on that
Silver reroll is slightly more fragment but in the finality itβs just few hours more of farm
so i reroll bronzes to 4% and combine it with a non rerolled bronze and it becomes +8?
now its time for mole shaped hell episode 8
Yes 8 or 7 donβt remember
i thought the obols had no variation to stats cus the wiki didnt mention anything on it feelsbadman
Obols with Misc stats can be rerolled to +/- 1% base value (rerolling can also give stats and wep/skill power)
Obols are cheaper to reroll at lower rarities
When obols are upgraded, the rerolled +1 is kept if you place the rerolled obol in the left slot
For Pop Obols, Bronze can be rerolled to +2%, then upgraded to Silver +4%
For Dice Obols, Silver can be rerolled to 6%, then upgraded to Gold +8%, Plat +11%, and Dementia +16%
ok so silvers max out at 4%?
Hmm guess I confused myself on obol
phew, less screwed than i thought then, now i need to figure out if rerolling 24 silver pops is easier than refarming bronzes and rerolling them
ive got 36 fragments and need to reroll 23 more silvers so yeah
For silver it's fine to just reroll, 3 cost vs 1 for bronze. Once you start crystal farming on DK you'll be able to get plenty of more frags
Not sure, because at some point, most of your fill rate come from wishing
is it a bad idea to start crystal farming at only 7x dr?
cus ive basically ran out of ways to push dr
more depends on your crystal spawn chance
Thatβs cap
ok, ive ran out of easy/fast ways to push dr
the moles heal a % for the boss fight right? 
Yeah
guess ill just cry if one gets through
You should it sucks
ill get there eventually maybe
BRO what character
ES
if i just wanted to farm frags for rerolls thatd just be more crystal farming with DK right?
@bleak gazelle this is a question for you bc idk
am i doing this right
Ye
as long as it's going down
it is
i had BB as my main moved all my stuff over to him and now his damgae went from 1 mil to 40 mil....
the wings do be helpin 
fr
Lustre 
gaem changer when i got enought oget em
Also tf are those rings
woah back up

very causal player, ive played just as long and im only here bery casual
Where tenacity ring at least?
never done a single dungeon
Oh
Should start then late game ring is from dungeon
Also dungeon has some insane stats bonus
yeah
Dungeons are the worst. Annoying that stuff is locked behind them. They will also be my last things bc f that lol
i mainly put it on like stats for my main and xp from stiff i got from dice
when frog came out i did it once and hated it
this is slower than i wanted :(
Def, acc, talent point, skill exp (it has afk gains I think too?) are the good ones
May have missed one or two
Well at one point acc becomes pointless like I have barely pushed w6 and I have enough acc for the last mob
problem is i have like 80 unsed talken points bcz libray is slow but its like lvl 25
https://zero_oliver.idleonefficiency.com/
80? Thatβs alright I have like hundreds of unspent talent point
holy crap i knew active ES was good not 5x afk gains good
thats used to be 250k portal
only thing i wish i got was coblat robe :(
Will watch later maybe busy rn
Daaamn
Hey, does this mean that my achievements progression is early W3 levels in auto review
Same 
Yeah you need to work on it
used some upgrade stones while im chillin in my prison cell.
theoretically if i havent had any issues so far with moles getting by does anything change for the pace of the fight as the boss hp gets lower?
damn alright
will is come back?
or if i have been fine thus far i will be fine, ill just be in here for 27 hours
No it never change
Proly? It should be a rotating pack
now that my watch has begun lava will push the update
damn i could never sit through that with 10b dmg, i waited till i had like 500b π
i just killed it on my vman for chaotic and figured id give nightmare a try
didnt check the stats
nightmare vman is a whole different level of pain
took me like 10mins with 200b vman dmg
π
i imagine it will take me a while to get to that point
but thats a problem for another time
scarf recepie isnt worth it, and the strung tooth is a lie, i have like 5 capes and no strung tooth π
given my experience hunting for scarves from chizzy i expect nothing
scarf recipe wasnt worth the 10mins of vman running LOL
if you get it first try i think im gonna cry
ill update you tomorrow
ive done like 400 nightmare crucks with 17.41x dr and havnt gotten it π
its all a fat lie π
watch out im comin in hot
bruh, the amount of times i've gotten this spread this run...
imagine if you get it bro
i think that the ingame dps doesnt quite line up with the damage numbers though
this should die sooner than 27h
you prolly didnt take crit chance and dmg into account
prob
not calculating allat π₯
i have been in there for uhhh 18 min and boss is at
well i mean, atleast its not 27 hours
more like 3 or something
you got dmg preset cards right?
yea
change to dr cards last minute π₯
damage cards/ preset/lab/star signs
o i forgot my obols
but they are only DR stuff anyway and i can move them over rn
farm out them giga frogs bro
i get a good amount of extra dr from my obols
im pretty sure its like 260-285% if i remmember
i have pops, missing the DR ones from w2 crystal
no cookie chip yet so farming those has been actually unfeasable
is that dementia base damage a good obol?
no cookie chip hurts π
no i just randomly have it and have nothing else to slot in
yea
oh niceee
excited to be able to pick one up
same
man i cannot outdps the dang sheep for frosty peaks spice battle 
its so helpful, but then you gotta grind crystal spawn chance stuff
some DK farming will be poppin off finally
i also suck at timing the block for the bouncing axe which oneshots my team
getting my family and personal dr obols took me like a week of overnight farming with 1 in 44 crystal chance
mainly cus i kept running out of obol fragments π

working on bricks for the stamp rn as well
doot card is kind of a lost cause. i should really go do that boss sometime though
dont forget this
I farmed doot a few days ago, it's pretty neat, didnt take long
dont have that actually, whats the source?
i js bought cardpacks for my doot π π
lmao
I think its the picnic dude in world 1, lemme check wiki rq
yeah that
yeah, gigafrog is the stamp one
guess i need to get on that, thanks
shrine + chaotic chiz 
yeah this one
have 4* chizzy so thats nice. isnt the other shrine good though
yea that one
same my shrines r so lacking π π
my crystal shrine is 57 so its somewhat balancing things a bit
but nowhere near close
i never have enough to level up my shrines cus my refinery is always on LOL
i should probably sstop it at some point π
I've been fixing my refinery since I got omni
the extra refinery cycle pops are huge
omg fr bro, but its still such a grind even with omni
took me 2 months to get to 1mil red salt with omni π
what do you need 1mil red salt for? equi?
just to hoard LOL
oh lmao
also the vial, but thats too much of a grind for me rn
i thought people js put all their characters in ngl π
I mean, that could work, I'm just curious 
Too busy farming cruck keys for divine trophy to worry about dragon statue rn π
sb works, dk not so effective if im not mistaken
How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Dragon Warrior Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message
Active farm on a Siegebreaker with crystal setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with everyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746
TL;DR - More DR equal shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim. At 30x DR, expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x
here we go 
Any luck?
the silence is painful π
sheepie 
ofc sheepie
Sheepie/Molti curse is real π
0.85% is a lie π
Minigames are so poot, I will never do any mini game related achievement
I hate them so much, especially mining omg its so annoying
Yeah woodcutting and bugs are the only good ones
225 
im only 218 LOL, I say im glad about the artifact but still havn't rebooked it π π
Only just realized i could get double statue
are you doing the 20 book checkout shenanigan?
Been active on es too much π
Yeah, its such a grind, my talent library is only like lvl 83 i think
yeah same, my 2 DKs are in construction jail
it takes me like 13 hours for 20 books
ES is love
ES farming out w6 mats for my marbel weapons and leggings π
I'm not at that point yet 
must be nice to have marbi tho, that juicy respawn%
Nah its all stat, which i like more, cus more dmg from crystal steak and power tri π
I thought marbi had respawn% 
But my dmg is so ass man π i gotta get the world 6 dmg meal for cooking and divine trophie
or not every piece?
I think its cruck with respawn rate
after i finish this marble farm i gotta switch back to dk for more onyx statues
22/02/2023 09:04:11
But I only really started taking idleon seriously since last summer ngl
marbi is all money%
Yeah with some juicy all stat too, i love it π€€
you typically want the DR/respawn on Kruk or the DR/mk on godshard
money can come from gmush kills
Never take Idleon seriously. Not even Lava takes Idleon seriously.
Well when I say seriously, its more of a taking alchemy seriously and neglecting most other things kinda situation
My breeding is so ass π π
breeding 
The bane of my existence I swear to god
I havn't even finished world 3 pets yet LOLLLL
I don't need to know how your Idleon obsession is affecting your bedroom activities.
I'm stuck at frosty peaks 
I js chucked in all my dr and refinery speed shinies in the fence yard and called it a day
LMAO TRUE
Breeding, rift, and divine trophy farm are the top 3 things I dislike about idleon
AND SUMMONING, oh my GOD do i hate summoning π π
summoning feels like trash ngl
I never get the reward i want
update on my nightmare kruk, little shy of an hour and im 25% of the way in
The rewards aren't randomized.
wait really? oh thank god
I havnt gotten dmg in ages and was getting worried π
Or the dr π
sorry for offtopic question with pic, is there a comp I can do frosty peaks with?
Yeah wiki has all the reward you can get from each win
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
Use this then go to "pets"
Ty
That and use whichever team you can based on your pets and max slot
so I'm missing half the team 
ur not alone dw π π
Can we js remove breeding from the game and add an alternative spice method pls π₯Ί
Well you got snelbies you fine
I guess you have to to burger in w1
Oh yeah dw I done all my world 5 teritory battles, I js dont have enough team power to actually activate the spice
Idk how to get more power
Next pet you should try to get are next two on w2, nutto on w1 and stache on w3
Full burger one the line and 3 tsar + forager isnβt enough?
believe me I'm trying to π
Maximum pet power is affected by your breeding level and the quality of the egg.
Oh i been using rattler instead of tsar, does it make a big difference?
i got this rn π
And this is my blooming aaxe
Oh I see thanks
Tsar boost the pet power as you might know so more tsar more power I reckon
And BM talent 
Oh I didnt know that, im a complete idiot when it comes to breeding lmao π
mercenarry instead of rattler and tsar affects spice fighting above and below
like baddum
This in the pinned of w3-4, Zoro is just that great
Oh wow what, i had no idea it worked like that tysm π β€οΈ
the axe throwing is so ass in frosty peaks, you cant possibly tank 2 with the same shield smh
Timing harder than a souls game fr
The only thing that is super sucky about the breeding skill is getting breedibility up. Especially if you want the achievement.
gotta lock in with breeding π
whats the distinction between purple and yellow damage markers?
OMG TYSMMMM
LOLLL THATS CRAZY WTF
Think im abouta shed a tear deadass π π
This is so magnificent
Purple = crit
I think
Your breedin be bussin now, frfr no cap.
ong
True and real π₯
And as if my day couldn't get any better, im so close to atom diamond chef π₯Ή
you know will really improve your day, when i finally kill this bastard in 2h and get the necklace drop
soon tm surely
Thats what i tell myself everyday when I wake up
Another 700 keys what could go wrong, oh wait, absolutly everything
π π
Relatable, I was running midas mind whilst pushing world 6 and wondering where tf all my kills were going LMAO
what is the best arena comp for beating wave 115 with 4 pets? for the cloud
#1277368276095336558 for you
is it worth resetting my opals and shoving them all into the explorer to get to the end of his unlocks?
Yee
Yep. Full send on each of them to get the unlocks you need.
yeah, I probably wont force it, tried a mercenary/fleeter/cursory/defender comp but the first pet died way too quickly
wonder if I should spend a few candies to get some gene boosting into the current ones
Think of it as getting genes AND contributing to your death note.
usually yes
hey guys so regarding obol rerolling, specifically pop obols
i reroll a bronze to 3%
Donβt forget to filter the main drop of ghost inb4 your game lags
put it in left slot of combine, and the silver should have 4% dr?
okay thanks just makin sure i do it right
It will take forever
does Mindful in divinity give exp when you are not hooked up to the shrine?
just realized what the enhanced left hand of action does, is it worth getting?
seems very good
just tranqui would. div gains can only be got from being on div altar or being in lab with goat god activated
ok ty
pretty much all the enhancements are besides maybe the last one at 250 which may be small impact for the amount of points to invest
Bits have never been easier to get now with the Hole in W5
yeah a lot of them seem crazy
Hand talent enhancement affect Vman and he gets double the bonus
good news, no neck
bruh why
i literally just did this
are cavern upgrades in gemshop worth it?
Hey all, I finally unlocked justice monument. Do I keep opals on explorer to level him up again? Or reset opals and put everything on someone else?
I personally think the x2 exp for explorer is 100% worth it. Outside of that I bought 3-4 points for cosmo
what is cosmo, not that far into caverns yet i think
i would most likely reset and work on other things, especially if you don't have them maxed
3rd villager that gives various bonuses
Which villager is best to put all opals into nextc
depends on what you have 
#1303761365273415700 has a bunch of info, but you could just rotate through them
you'll have to kill nightmare kruk with all 10 players anyways
yea, its more of a commentary on how it would be nice if the challenges applied retroactively
there is 8 tiers once u have all the unlocks
Oh ! damn alright
i only have 8th tier of chemical and leaf
i havent gotten t5 of the bush and the fly trap so i was wondering
also how does the +15 afk h to gaming work ?
because i claimed my gaming then swapped to my character and it gave me 15h afk time for gaming but when i checked nothing had changed
Nerd???
doesn't make you a nerd to actually try in a game you've been playing for 3 years (talking about you, ive only been playing 2)
I don't try because I don't do much in this game
not doing much is kind of the same as not trying so ye
Well I'm activing w1 statues for awhile so yeah 
2 days until chocolate chip!
My 5th choco chip 
nice, it will be my first one
if you have 5 choco chips you must also have some really good statues with all the crystals you've killed!
is this not meant for the worms on w4, am i missing something it's not even checking that i have the prayer on
Your funny
Plus I'm doing them right now so leave me be 
Donβt lie

My crystal chance needs improving but it's 1 in 36
thats decent
My Dr ain't 
I just had the most insane luck. After waiting for the eventually-available-100% on Omniphau I unlock Flutter on my first offer which opened at 5% 
Omni was kind of a pain so my jaw dropped lmao
!merit5
1οΈβ£ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2οΈβ£ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3οΈβ£ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4οΈβ£ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5οΈβ£ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
βοΈ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
βοΈ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
huh what the fk happened i blinked and my damage almost doubled
earlier i was running that nightmare kruk with 10b
your es just learned to curse, dealing emotional damage to the mobs
you may have doubled your damage, but the consequences may be severe
do i need to seek medical attention if it persists
yeah its a good emote
this image hurts me from having 2x the wis and 10x the damage of my es that's the same level
means I have to commit 2 months to idleon homework

means class exp doesn't mean much
yea. my fresh lvl 100s i hadnt leveled/geared were fisting w5 mobs with a billion damage
its all about those incremental account wide gains i guess
yeah I see the roadmap it's just a bit funny to me
if it makes you feel better i started playing less than a month ago 
does sail speed or art chance matter more when picking out captains?
Did you equip your robe
had it on the entire time
O
legit not sure what the diff was between when i was in kruk and now
i did unlock the w6 merit board but dont think anything i got was significant bonus wise from it
Should I click the Research button? I don't know if it's better to aim for high chances or just spam the button every time
Spam
Quantity > Quality
Thanks!
sweet 
Give
surely you're close
rift should be easy for you at the least (like a day of 8 characters afking there)
Hi dadoums
and I just got to mastery 1, so you're basically right there for sovereign (I got it at the top floor of base ninja/mastery 1 bottom floor)
Oh yeah ofc can proly get to rift 46 bonus (am at 41)
Hi you sweet living man from satan land
nah you could get to rift 56 if you can get to 46
I've learnt why I can't progress
I got to sneaking mastery 
even when they get to like 50T health youll still get like 80k-200k kills per hour (I did it with 6T max damage at most, which was on my SB, rest at 2T)
Bc you bad?
No my drops are messed up
Hmm alr
Well yeah when a few days ago when you have statues and golden food filtered of course thereβs a problem
In 1 hour I got 35 golden hampters even with 1 in 36 crystal chance, 12.48x dr on active Bubo
Even TheZebra said my drops suck
try it trust me youll get it done in a day maybe 1.5 days tops and your construction, kilroy potential, sneaking, cards etc will skyrocket
(I immediately got full cog setup afterwards with my Squires producing it was sick)
get higher dr
Bro not the issue
The issue is that you are getting bad drops, but raising dr would also raise the minimum threshold
Yeah your dr suck, Iβm early w6 with almost 11 DR so yeah bad dr for you (get 40 at least)
Nah at least 60
Ah fk right reaper is end game he should get that much at least
DR prayer equipped?
Ye
Reaper is endgame of endgame fr
Reaper is at the stage of the game called Reaper
Thereβs w7, w8, and then a progression tier that transcends all of that named reaper
||He Who Must Not Be Named||
I'm putting together a team for caustic glaciaxus, w3 dungeon for cloud. let me know if interested.
skill mastery unlocked
now do I level all skills on every character till level 30 for passive cards?
Yep
Does deathnote also means superchow?
ok this update contains new jade emporium
Hi team
hi reaper
Someone tried to send a server invite and it got insta deleted 
can i ask
now i'm making an obol drop rate set for es, dk and bubo
does any archers require a drop rate set as well?
I mean i'm farming pops atm, might as well get them a set
i'm looking into the obol spreadsheet but it doesn't indicatewhat is best for individual
yea but i got 15x drop rate
it takes me probably an hour or less to farm a full box of obols
I just hate coming back to frogs lol
do u put skilling, dr or construction on ur 3 archers?
or one of each
oh what is mk?
can u rethrow the last bravery sword to regain the bonus? or is it gone for good
yea i'm just too lazy
there's too many things to do in this game already haha
my husband is already yelling at me for playing the game under the covers until 3am
Time to go to bed π«‘
it's work time rn haha
Coffee 
i accidentally slip my mobile under his pillow last night
he got a warm ear from my es active farming
oooo, til
Poor guy warm ear 
i tried to get him to play
but he says no haha
he feels like i play this game more than i play genshin or ffxiv right now
Time to strap him to a chair and make him watch 12 hours of idleon 
his actual words is "idle my ass"

after explorer unlocks justice should I focus on engineer or measurer first?
Thank god π
Pet battles don't really feel better on PC. They just lag to a stop after a few minutes, even with performance settings on.
That's diabolical!!
!merit5
1οΈβ£ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2οΈβ£ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3οΈβ£ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4οΈβ£ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5οΈβ£ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
βοΈ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
βοΈ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
is there a max to multi log?>
Multi log chance caps at 600% if you have an upgrade from the Hole.
Ty i aim to please
welp guess im going to book this next
booking this talent gives insane time
went from 39 portals to 50, and my gmush prints from 900k to 2.2mil
How long does it get to unlock all usable gods from 0?
Depends.

24 years
I think I have 3 left to unlock after a week or so in W5?
Current god has w 100% thing up so just need to wait for my divinity to fill up enough
Comes down to some RNG so not gonna have a firm number
assume your very very lucky and hit all 1% about like 2 weeks
if not anywhere from 2 weeks to 4 mths
hi all
just to check, do i reroll my double sixes to 6%?
is that the max before i combine them?
All obals can only go +/- 1%
oh i see!
The problem comes when you have double bonus stats like the boss obals because both of the stats can go up or down 1%, so that's a lot of rerolling to get them perfect, lol
finally got crystals to 1/99
Perfect roll is something like 6% DR, 4 points in stats. You only need to do it for the obol on the left side.
I wouldn't worry about the stats. They're very marginal in the long run. The bonuses are what matter. But yes, only the one you put in the left combine slot matters.
Does anyone remember the elite token swap price
Hey, the gaming and sailing dk/sb talents don't stack, right?
as well as the pow 10 boost from orb and plunderous
You could buy three, at 650 each I think
I just want 1
is there a trick to get this?
650
Yes
how does the dirty shovel affects the nugget outcome?
does it gives higher chance to get the higher numbers?
For the last mole quest, I need to have the scarf equipped when I get the cape drop? Or just equip it once
You can try to home in. The trade amount is based on what you own. Trade something that gives you more than 777, reload the map, check again.
which character should i use to go through world 5
ES, heβs best for clearing the boss
thank you
Just got to world 5, from research I think im supposed to park all character in divinty, how long did it take yall to unlock bear god so you coulld resume playing the game?\
generally ppl go for goat god, so they can for on lab jail and div jail at same time
Bear took about a week
For me
dont really recall, and theres aslo a question of luck with using lower chances
Yeah i ate shit for 5 days straight when using 50% to get the div but then i cycled to 100% on both and got them in 2 days
generally ppl want to fish for 100% chance, but rng can make you waste lots of 1-5%, or sometimes you'll get lucky on one of those pull and get a god
1% god pull are 
Thanks for info, ig i shall have to deal with less idleon for a bit π
Lol make sure to do hole too for maximum jail
Ive been going for chizoar gear for my ES so everythings kinda at a crawl until everyone pushes to unlock the recipe
Is chizoar gear worth the time instead of just progressing to Lustre?
So my Killroy timer is at +185, and I'm noticing at about the last 15 seconds the enemies stop spawning altogether. Is there a max Killroy time I exceeded?
Not really. The Troll armor is worth making since it's used as a starting point for a lot of upgrades later. Chizoar is a dead end.
Also luster is just for slab. Useless outside of the skill boots.
My guess would be yes but thats just a guess. I kinda hope so I stopped at +100 as I dont want kilroy to take more time.
Does linking bear mean i can have my characters doing stuff while retaining lab bonuses?
Thats cool
Finally was able to have a high enough damage to cause a deficit on Nightmare Kattlekruk so the moles couldn't keep him healed on my vman
The last 3 should be a cake walk
You're way over, yes. Tldr is special mons stop spawning after 140 timer. Normal monsters continue respawning
Start going more into Skulls now until 120 at least. Respawn will give you more spawns within that 140 timer if your kill count isn't high enough.
More Timer at that point is only going to help Bubo and DK with respawn mechanics
Good to know, thank you.
I am so not looking forward to this. Congrats
i feel its a dumb question but i can place shrines in monument of bravery for afking there right?
you can but if you got lab node you can simply leave them in town
Wher can i find this bow
W5
Monster drop ?
The world 5 merit shop, for killing kruk. The bow recipe is 6th
Is there any trick to farming divinity ranks? The 100% success sacrifice is 200m and that's just to get the first rank. It will take me 5+ characters farming for weeks.
I asked the same thing @foggy vapor as I just got w5 and pretty much most optimal for us to sit in divinity until we reach bear then sit in Lab until goat - from my understanding its big chilling now no more active until divinity unlocks
I just wouldn't. Unless I'm sleeping on god ranks and they're amazing. And divinity only gets better with time due to other parts of the game
My question is a bit different. I have unlocked all the gods and now I'm just waiting to unlock divinity ranks.
So not worth bothering?
I'm at god rank 2 and just haven't touched it for months
I guess I will just sit at the bravery monument instead
Pretty much. There's a couple of bonuses that are affected by God ranks, but there are better uses for your time
I would recommend using these items if you have them and try to get to around the same damage and stats before you try
Or the artifact that makes it where no matter what map you're on they work
yes, but if you want to level them, they either need to be in town of the world you're in or on your map, since he's in bravery/justice, the bonuses don't actually matter, just xp
@bleak gazelle got early this morning
noted thanks
golden stopwatches work on bravery and respect?
gold watches trigger daily reset, they dont actually work like a 24 hour time candy
and no it doesnt work for lamp either though, that was disabled
Thereβs a list somewhere of what golden watch affect
(Tho it was made before hole I think but doesnβt change anything)
damn alr
140 shrine level equinox challenge so now i should start using construction on that, i need something active to do whilst constructing cause the shrines build super fast at my current rate
at what point do i start bothering with sigils?
i'd like to max inner peace (+% xp for specialized mage skills) on my ES skilling preset for the divinity xp. but I don't want the extra worship xp for maestro reasons, what do
your maestro should still outlevel your ES with happy dude
at least mine outpaces my ES just fine

oh damn im neglecting prayers big time. i should really be using balance of pain for vman speedruns huh
also gotta start planning out my 75 greenstacks
how to aproach gaming early? should i harvest kinda early to keep buying upgrades or should i left 1 of each until they are fully grown?
i found harvest early was more important cus the sooner you buy the upgrades the sooner the amount you get from them increased
make sure to talent book the DK skills too
however im not one of the most knowledgable players when it comes to this game so i mightve been doing it wrong by just harvesting fairly often
thanks π
I can move up a sneaking floor but the detection rate there is 30%, too high or should i move up?
So with divinity jail, do I get everyone to 40 then they can go back to what they were doing?
bit confused. i just got icon of Eldritch but not the artifact i own. it was just Eldritch icon. is this bug?
looks like this one
I am far from a sneaking expert, but I would move up. You'll probably get many times the jade/xp amount and still earn more even if you are knocked out 30% of the time. Plus, you might find new charms or other items that could help you.
divinity til goharut, then you lab them whilst theyre linked to goharut
you wont get to level 40 divinity anytime before you get to goharut
like my guys are in the 22-25 range and im at omniphau
Oh I unlocked goharut awhile ago and everyone is at 30-40 div level range
oh so its not actually divinity jail for you anymore but lab/div combo, then thats beyond my knowledge, idk what point people stop the jailing there
Yeah, I've had everyone in lab for 2 weeks just wondering when I can let them out haha
ive temporarily pulled mine out of lab and put arctis on pocket cus ive got omni now and want to up my bravery monument a bit
doesnt lab go crazy high level?
Idek what lab levels do tbh
connection range
so less players needed to reach all those connections
iirc the levels up the range you can connect between characters, which is line width, but idk if they do anything to connection range to nodes themselves
yeah i had to go back and double check cus my wording was off
im quite enjoying the backtracking now ive hit w6 and doin things like card farming or super quick constructing early shrines
can make anvil tab 5 but not sure theres much point to it just yet
it gets better as you unlock more gods as some gods will allow u to level divinity gain %
being sick sucks ive spent the entire weekend as a human burrito
is 97afk and 103multi ok?
to me any of either of them is great
thats the thing, theyre talking about god ranks, isnt that after youve unlocked all gods?
or do god ranks also let you get div gain up too through some method?
man im only halfway to cavern 9, 10 is gonna take decades with this xp rate
putting all opals on 1 villager is good if you have the bonus that every 10th opal gives more xp
depends how many opals you have tho
yeah but my engi is currently close to levelling up so didnt wanna respec, my conjuror literally only has 1 opal on it, currently 25/10/1/6 distribution
i should probably put my vman on the motherlode
cus the xp that gave put my dk back ahead of him
yyeah i have 5,3mill xp but i also have 140 opals
also just maxed the arcade bonus for 40% xp multi
ive been putting my arcade balls into gold ball gain cus i figured its better to invest in that early
i have some stupid point usage just cause i wasnt sure what i was doing in previous rotations XD
ok nevermind, my vman definitely cant do much to the motherlode haha
how does the super status work anyways? i know it involves the blue arcade balls but im a way off maxing any stat
when you get lvl 100 you can use 5 blue balls to double the bonus
thank god its only 5
jeez ive got no clue how im really gonna push my vman back past my dk, 67 mining on the vman, 70 on the dk
buddy of mine hit the jackpot
but jokes on him, i got the snowman nametag from the winter event as a f2p player
i got nametag on last day
nice, i got teased by it 2 days before getting it with this, then 2 days later the 2nd pic just barely on the blue
first day i got to pink like few pixel of light blue
and then i got 3x green few pixelf of light blue
i was about to loose my mind if i didnt got it on last day
i honestly thought that 2nd pic of mine was another green, it was right on the line of it
ok damn, my vman is 4m mining efficiency, my dk is 180m, i want to mine the motherlode for opals but i need to get my vmans level back past my dk...
maestro transfusion is a scam, i dont see anywhere where it gives me more xp
just trust lava 
can i pick two ?
you have to level it up to pick 2
you seem to have a visual bug but normally thered be dots in the ones that can have multiple levels to represent how many possible levels they can have
he didnt bought upgrade that lets him do it
oh wait it requires an upgrade?
its in hole updeges
i didnt realise that i mustve specd into it earlier, i guess its hole majik
ah right makes sense i guess given youre upgrading the conjuror itself
thats what i did, thats how i found out transfusion doesnt give me more xp anywhere
literally everywhere i checked, void/lustre/godshard/dreadlo, transfusion made it worse xp rates
thank you
so yeah you need to get cosmo, enhance, before you can level it up
honestly dont know what that is
the village majik, in the middle one
oh
yeah just get to the 3rd upgrade
you just need 1 point in it
well you have 2 points left by that picture
yeah you threw a lot of points into green, id wish reset if i were you
so you just need 1 lvl
yessir
how do i confirm thisd
you dont need to confirm it, its not like actual divinity where you have to lock it in
you can freely toggle it around as much as you want
oh shit
yeah, super good
wait till you see the enhanced bonuses maxed π
im not an expert on the hole so there are better people than me to give advice, the only thing id say 100% are to make sure you get the ability to enhance bonuses and then to get pocket divinity level 2
other than that people have suggested villager xp for getting to cavern 10 so thats what ive been doing, this is what mine looks like
alright so i dont understand anything you said i am a complete noob in the hole and i just ame back form a 30 day break so i forgot everything
the first bonus in majik is best xp bonus if you have some opals
im too broke honestly
yeah i can relate, ive got like 40 or so opals total
the one in the middle right?
ok so if you reset your points for the conjurer, this one you want one point in
then you can get two in pocket divinity over here
the red and blue are nice all to get red just to where you are now
i need that fr
green you get only if you really need
since blue and red will help you to progress with hole faster= more points
i dont know what monument is
your conjuror is level 8 right? you can afford to reach it
the sword fighting
this is the first monument
you need to afk for at least an hour there
you need to afk there for at least 1h
ughhhh
like claim 1h afk there not just stand there
how many caverns have you unlocked?
ok, at the lamp how many wishes have you unlocked?
cus this is the one you want
(reset conjuror points option)
he already reset it right?
im not sure i didnt see
or no?
yeah cant candy monument
bad news
before talking to you guys i spent all my wishes
oh dear
yeah you need to leave 1guy there
what about him saying i need a new charecter
you can leave as many people as you want at bravery anyways
ignore that you just need to leave guy there for 1h to unlock it
the more afk you have on it the stronger you get tho
everyone is at worship for me lol
good old divinity jail
hahahaha couldnt of sauid it better
What is the best class to push world 5 as an afk player?
the one you have most dmg on 
should i stay doing divinity or do i have enough
Ok so i guess es
probably ES or SB
should be fine to move to hole now
oh good the real knowledgable guy is here i can move out
what lvl are oyu at divinity
its nice to get style where you get xp even if you are not on altar
its the level 40 one for divinity xp whilst not on altar sadly
how close are you
i mean, you see the levels for the other styles right there 
also if you really want to be at divinity you could connect to got that you get divinity xp/points when you in lab so you can lvl up both at same time
lvl 25
alright im gonna leave my vman afk at starfire ore for a few days
yeah then maybe leave only the mages there for now and let others do hole
so at the fight right?
cavern 4, the sword statue, you leave them afk there
put some guys on monument your miner at motherload
if motherload is still not too hard
i need a way to make my miner get 0 xp so he can do it without outlevelling my vman
are they that close?
send ur vman back to the mines
yeah hes at starfire now
im a candy hoarder
i usually hoard candies til i get single huge projects
surely ill get master of nothing 
motherlode ore only gives 150xp per, so you should be fine now 
like rn ive used over a year of candy this week on farming blacck lenses to max my primordial shrine, and then ill go back to not using forever
starfire is like 500 base
for comparison, the motherlode currently says it gives 5.5m xp/hr for my miner, and my vman is getting 7.3m/hr at starfire
yeah i said im a hoarder but im also not a veteran of the game
yeeeeah my track record with luck isnt great and theyre heavily weighted to low hours
i will probably use lot of candy here when i am gonna need more
need 100 000ghost 10 000pearl
bruh ive barely farmed pearls for my starfire tools
been pushing up my obols lately im at about 6.7x droprate
oh wait ive gone up since last i checked though not sure how
choco chip next week so i think ill start statue farming then
do you have stuff for it ready?
yeah i got the pinion spurs going many months ago, ive had 200k for forever
makes me sad looking at upcoming jewels that im not gonna be able to get, this would be nice but ive only just unlocked frosty peaks spice which is the one before this one
i got to watch someone go psycho using gems on chips here a few weeks back 
if i had everything else maxed i guess but unless that then hell nah
anyway
its 3am time to go 
goodnight
2 jewels or 1 pristine charm in gem shop?
probably pristines. the most useful of the remaining jewels you have is coming into shop in a month, meal bonuses, which is definitely strong, but if you can just pick it up in-game then better to save the gems
i do really want to save gems for fomo shop but i cant wait any longer
you alreayd got the most useful pristine, so thankfully you don't have to roll for it a bunch
still a few good ones though
which would i aim for then w pristine

OG, gold food and stamps are probably best remaining ones? stamps and jade are good, too. honestly everythings decent besides the damage one
what about land plots
definitely speeds things up, but not completely necessary to finish farming
hm ok
i have 3 land plots and 3 instagrow gens
i can either go for more land plots or pristine gems
we'll see
depends on how far behind your farming is 
uh
the OG pristine is still pretty good, too
so you think my farming is behind
βa few days agoβ my brother in christ your further than me in farming and ive been in w6 for 3 weeks
im joking ive been in w6 for montsh
is the Royal Sampler prayer generally recommended to have on all characters that sample skilling stuff?
or is the xp bonus too much of a hit
xp bonus is barely noticeable
Thanks, I've been avoiding it this whole time by mistake
anyone wanna run w3 dungeon for cloud?
In justice which case made that I lose -1pop every case till end game ?π
ghost probably
Can you not get these yet? I leveled engineer far enough
Can someone please remind me what to do to increase bubble cost?
If you switch to a character out side of that bubbles category I think that works. Like leveling a purple bubble while on a warrior
mm yeah i thought there was something extra like disconnect the vial bonus in lab
rip so close
couple more levels on the archer it is
Should I accept ghos deal in justice, or it's too risky?
should I put everything on engineer or split with measurer
typically want to focus if you['re in the 80+ opal range
aight
I hit world 5 but can't make world 4 stuff what did I do wrong ?
Result of rushing
If you spend some time working on skilling and your refinery youβll be able to craft the T4 anvil
Refining ang totem shit is holding me back
Nothing wrong with that, gear does very little. Upgrade more global buffs to push new worlds to unlock more global buffs.
Most of the in town stuff feels like a waste of time
sailing artifacts from world 5 are crazy useful and divinity, while slow to start, gives some insane bonuses too once you get into it, so too does gaming
I'll keep that in mind
arctis for instance is only the 2nd god unlocked but lets you connect to the lab without actually being in it (though you dont gain xp)
Hmmmmm interesting. Lab also feels like a doubble waste of time
Lab goes pretty quick when you focus on w3 skills and pushing w5 to w6
yea it doesn't feel that impactful until i reach w6 myself
Depends on ur speed i guess. If u're going from start of game to w6 in less than 1 month like me, w4 overall feels useless
then once u get to w6 and come back to it later with goat , w4 is amazing
Lab gives you double kills 
So I just finished W4 and I'm now starting with w5. just to make sure I understood correctly - I'll remove all my guys from lab and put them into divinity for now (maybe switch them for reset and no bubble left behind?). Then it's waiting for the goat / bear guy unlock for now until I decide to catch up on skills, levels, ...?
So normally yes, wait until you can get the god that lets you sit in lab and still get divinity points as well as lab exp
feels like all u do is sit in lab and do no skilling
im still doing it now, just because i cba to do much else rn hahaha, wish i had doot to leave them in there and just do other skills
nerd skilling
i need to relink them to all be bear and goat from the hole or something
Bear and Goat don't stack, you still need to have them manually in the lab.
you are right
itll definitely be bear then, whats best 2nd one if i wanna leave lab and skill other stuff?
Yeah
Just need statue leveled a bit
roughly
Cavern one?
how do i fix the printer bug again its showing stars on all characters and i have doot so im not sure what is happening
No the talent
Would you happen to be farming with DK?
i did once but i farmed with es last night
and i have reopened it so im not sure whats happening
It's a visual bug ~ check idleonefficiency.com to see if your prints are still x6
It happens to me when I'm active on DK and flickers yellow to purple ~ sometimes the lab causes it to.
That means it's active, so it's just a visual bug.
alrighty then! I just got to W5 boss, can only get him down 2B at a time before those damn moles heal him, looks like i best go back to grinding!
is this for cavern damage or damage everywhere?
Everywhere.
oh nicem that would probably be enough to kill w5 boss
now i need to unlock the portals there 
if it's blue it's buff for out the cave if it's purple it buff the cave stats
no
with 8M u can't reach W6: last enemy before boss has 720M HP, u could unlock the hole and the world boss by reaching the 3rd map and potentially some new stamps in the 4th one
I wouldn't suggest pushing and even if u want to do it anyway I suggest you to push at maximum to the 4th map
didn't know that, I assumed u had to reach the portal to enter it
yeah you can basically skip the first 2 portal but to get the merit task of w5 you gotta kill the first 2 mobs 
I had 13 retirement chests before needing to afk. When I came back it seemed like I lost everything. Any way of retrieving them?
Nope
I just started W5 and also unlocked my 8th character slot. I dont have a journeyman yet. Should I delay him further until the 10th slot unlock or just go for it now?
was in the wrong channel my bad
well thing is with master class releasing anytime soon having the second SB and ES (what people usually do nowadays) meta might change and those will will become bad/useless will others class will become relevant again
no worries it's not like we respect that in w1 and w3 chats x)
Definitely get a journeyman. The bonuses he gives are pretty powerful, especially to skilling for cooking and printing.
Besides that, the journeyman quests take time. By the time you get vman, you'll likely have your 9th and 10th slots.
and surely one master should've be released by then right?
No idea. He might release the next few caverns first.
Divinity zzzzz
Should i keep ppl in lab up to nbnl as a prio then the rest in divinity?
I wouldn't bc too lazy
Only activate nblb before the daily reset. You can keep it offline otherwise.
Mmm would you recommend all from lab to divinity just for the start of W5 then?
Pretty much. Divinity is already slow as is, so the more people the better. Keep an ES/DK out of divinity and play some catch-up.
Awesome thanks so much :)
Is my damage okay-ish for my level?
Why does that matter? What matters is: is your damage okay for what you're wanting to accomplish? Don't compare yourself to other people. Play the game the way you want.
If you post your IE, some people will likely audit it for you to give you suggestions on where you can improve.
@simple wadi I was just asking if I have atleast the average damage as required at this stage of the game ( Late W5 ). I was completing rifts and my eclipse skulls were taking a lot of time to do for barely W2 mobs.
I hard pushed alchemy but my samples are subpar for current requirements.
I dont use IE.
damage is hard to equate with level as there are hundreds of factors that play into it. i'm hoping by "late w5" you mean that you've killed the boss and have gone into w6 to start skills there, at least? 
Yep, my damage nearly tripled from summoning bonuses.
I will say that getting eclipse for W1-W6 took me about five months.
5 months!?
If you whale, you can definitely do it in less time.
I am not a very active player and often leave for months.
i started playing before W5 came out.
Are you using all your chrs to farm AFK kills or are you trying to do it all on one chr with candies?
it finally happened π₯Ή
how to approach the bell
With fear and awe.
Check the pinned messages.
Every day ideally but you can do it every two days if you're lazy.
How do I go about unlocking the green faster Iβm guessing itβs the level 999 thing which just feels crazy
lv 999 is not implemented yet, to get more green bits u need to grind gaming and unlock other bonus/multiplier for bits
You just get more bits. More acorns, better nugget, more upgrades, more external buffs like Worship, Farming, Gaming, Cooking etc.
The colors just means how many bits you have.
is the 100% sacrifice suposed to be super rare or am i just unlucky
For Divinity? Pretty rare.
ill probably candy push w6 as soon is a get the x2 kills god





