lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[agile pagoda]

It literally says to equip it, I equipped it, removed it, re-equipped it and even switched map

I restarted the game, fixed it

[digital lava]

So is F basically the same thing as C, but instead of making 100% of a note type like C, it makes 25% of two note types?

Trying to understand the point in using F, other than just grinding its lvl up bonus

[proud pumice]

it gives 25% of three note types, the note you're tuned to, the one before and the one after

overall C is strictly better besides the lvl bonus

[digital lava]

Ahhh gotcha, thanks for clearing that up

[fervent anvil]

Youre saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VhL1jGHCi0 still works? cause ive been hearing it didnt and when i try it i couldnt get it

[proud pumice]

i've never seen this video, i use pancake's guides

let me see

[proud pumice]

are you having trouble placing frozone? it sounds doable if you walk closer

notice how at 0:11 he is close to the portal to place it

[fervent anvil]

no im talking about the one he labels as 1, the very left psy

[fervent anvil]

could you link me to that?

[proud pumice]

#1277368276095336558 message here's all of them

if you can't see, react to in #👀read-me

[fervent anvil]

oo ty

[pure anchor]

should I buy the divinity sparkie gem upgrades? I recently got to w5 and already got one of the gold sprinklers

[analog raven]

i personally bought all

it was pretty worth for me

divinity takes a really long time but it is one of the most worthwhile benefits in the game

[cinder nest]

I finished mine with 2

[random dune]

is farming multiple sets of dr obols worth it

[cinder nest]

Most early divinity gains will be from sailing

[random dune]

or can i just swap it to the character before collecting

[digital lava]

What does the silver outline covering only part of the gravel and redstone outline mean?

[drowsy rivet]

is there a optimal time to claim dragon warrior statues it feels really jank to me and like there is a optimal time

[marble lotus]

I would say just one and if you've got excess gems gamble on chips

[lucid umbra]

The silver outline represents how many times you've expanded the capacity

[woven bolt]

Lets go got goat first try on 5%

[marble lotus]

is it any worth it to try to get stuff on the log book or is it a later-game goal?

currently around green Trillions with 26 or 5 min cycles

[floral sandal]

is there any benefits by renewing the bell?

[marble lotus]

it is advisable to get it once you unlock the schematic that gives you a chance to triple bonuses

[floral sandal]

the triple tap tinkle?

[marble lotus]

yes

[floral sandal]

okay okay thank you makes sense

[bleak gazelle]

lava removed the ability to place towers on portals just fyi

hence the current wave 200 guide not having one on the portal

and why pancake says not to go for 200

[stable temple]

I'm just saying but even if you kill the boss once every 10 seconds it's still nearly an hour to complete 300 kills

[oblique jasper]

Yeah that’s why I did it once and never again

[stable temple]

104 kills, 83 gems, 1 tooth so far from running normal. Preeeetty good drop rng tbh

Unfortunately I don't have scarf recipe unlocked so the tooth is just inventory clutter at this point

[fickle lake]

how far do i want to push this?

[peak verge]

As far as you feel like you still need xp. I got to the max gear levels (500-525) with bubble at lvl 576 by the time I reached last W6 map.

[fast forge]

do we have access to the 9th and 10th bucket upgrade or am i being baited by toolbox?

[junior arrow]

lvl18 is it for now, anything after needs to wait for an update

[wet sentinel]

Hey. Does the bear god and the goat god (divinity) work with each other? For example, I can progress maps while i am 'active' in the lab with the bear and also get the goat god bonus for divinity. I don't have doot, just the hole bonus.

[knotty raptor]

No

[junior arrow]

goat only works when actually in the lab
bear just mimics your character and acts like its in the lab

[wet sentinel]

ahh okay, thank you!

[rotund talon]

Got 26 opals now, just unlocked measurer and lamp, how should I invest my opals? All in on Explorer for now?

[night charm]

what is scaled skill eff on nobisect?

[peak verge]

Iirc it's just efficiency but you get more if your efficiency sucks and you get less if your efficiency is good.

[stable temple]

It's the opposite

The higher your skill level, the more of the scaled efficiency you get

[zinc torrent]

when should I change this?

[icy fern]

Why does it feel like afking with high DR gives rare drops with 1/1mil + more often than farming with ES?

Been farming gold twines for 2 days active, and all of them dropped when I was taking a 3-4 hr break

[fathom lagoon]

Never really

Oh shit I’m in wrong chat

[stable temple]

Never, also put it back to the basic wooden chest

It can be worth using if you're collecting chests every 2-3 cycles without unending loot on, but eh

[zinc torrent]

I see, thanks

[glad patrol]

Does anyone know when it comes to the omniphau god in divinity does the claims go by the exact time, or rounded to the nearest hour (rounded down)? For example, if I get 150 minutes of afk (2 & 1/2 hours) do I get the 2 & 1/2, or do I only get the 2?

[sonic egret]

woo finally

[night charm]

how do i find ancient ones ?

[peak summit]

Does gold stopwatch make the next reset in 24 hours or as per normal time

[bleak gazelle]

it simulates a daily reset occurring, doesn't move the time

[bleak gazelle]

just keep sailing to the islands

[bleak gazelle]

exact time

[bleak gazelle]

You can guarantee drops via afk with enough base kills. IT has a calculator or you can check out this spreadsheet here. If it was a short afk claim, that's just RNG
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746

[icy fern]

Yeah but i would have thought that active will always be better than afk

esp for ES

[bleak gazelle]

In general it is, as often times you can get more than of said rare drop in the time it takes to guarantee a drop. Depends on your damage and DR could just be bad RNG too

[icy fern]

Oh maybe it's because my es is cheeks

it's at around 7-8 DR

[modest vortex]

Is gloomy grotto layers affected by multikill?

[sand kettle]

for statues only afk tho

[hoary temple]

do this give xp to chars thats outside of divinity too?

[potent lily]

Yes

[quick girder]

anyone run into the dvinity that gives all characters 1 xp not working?

[bleak gazelle]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[quick girder]

Ah okay

[simple wadi]

Nonetheless is one word. Stupid f-ing bot.

[graceful mist]

in terms of dupes i have 1ES 1DK so should I go for SB now?

[bleak gazelle]

potentially? best bet is probably just to make an archer and hold off till master classes are released. the use case for a 2nd SB was majorly diminished by the forge capacity received from hole, but it can also be beneficial to have one SB on skilling preset for sailling talents early on

[graceful mist]

oh fair

i just made the ES and DK too did I fumble the bag

should I have just kept them

without elite

[bleak gazelle]

DK is still a must due to construction, ES is kind of up in the air too with Pocket Div but atm it's generally seen as better than a 2nd bubo

[graceful mist]

yeah fair enough

[bleak gazelle]

Unless you're Dooted, 2nd ES gives you an easy way to link to Purrmep

[graceful mist]

sadly no doot

💔

[graceful mist]

using the talent?

[bleak gazelle]

you'd main link to Purrmep then use Poly for w/e else

[graceful mist]

yeah ok fair

[bleak gazelle]

Purrmep won't work via Poly

[uneven sequoia]

Is there an updated Guide Sheet that has W5 and W6 Tower Defense helps?

[graceful mist]

oh i see

fair

[bleak gazelle]

As updated as I'm aware
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[lofty urchin]

is mantra glitched

[bleak gazelle]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[lofty urchin]

nvm

im dumb as hell its cause of the royal sampler

[bleak gazelle]

shouldn't affect it, afaik. only things that specifically say div xp should...though knowing lava, something could have changed in the last two years

[red mauve]

You would think the divinity lvl up animation wile not on the alter would kinda give it away.

[warm holly]

For sampling monster prints and considering Pocket Divinity: You guys think it would be best to go with Goharut+Nobisect or Goharut+Shehebenatu?

[graceful mist]

this doesn't stack right?

[silent birch]

No

[bleak gazelle]

Nobi doesn't affect samples, so goat+snake

[warm holly]

thank you

[vestal halo]

Front what case or last stand we Can get multi bonus?

[warm holly]

say again?

[vestal halo]

Ať monument u Can get multi bonuses..

I never get one

[warm holly]

multi to what

afk gains?

some bonuses only appear once you hit a certain level, for instance

afk gains from bravery only appear once you hit level 32

[vestal halo]

Multi bonuses to justice or that one with mining

Yeah thx

47/77 i never that far

[paper nova]

Anyone know if Dungeon Dice rolls are affected by card sets/cards?

[stray tide]

The number wouldnt be but the value might be

[paper nova]

ya thats the ultimate question i wanna figure out

[graceful mist]

should I put maestro on div grind or should I have them working towards vman?

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably leave him on their until you've at least unlocked bear. after that, up to you. if you have 9 or 10 characters then probably fine to pull him off for skilling

if you just need the gmush kills, i'd wait till you get nobi unlocked

[near bear]

Hey there, I was looking for advice I am trying to get all good damage cards to 4 star and right now I am doing citringe card and I am getting like 12-14 cards every 20 hrs is this feasible should go do something else cause i still need like 836 more 😅

[bleak gazelle]

I woudn't try to 4* w4/5 cards if you're still ushing through w5, unless that tickles your fancy. There are plenty of other areas to get damage from

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[near bear]

Ok then I guess I'll move onto somewhere else.

[astral marten]

why does it seem like the resource bursting from idleon majik isn't giving as much multi-log chance as it gives to multi-ore chance if it claims it gives to -everything- equally

basically why is my multi-log chance 197% but my multi-ore is 300%

[languid patio]

What should I invest my opals when my engineering is level 18 and bonuses is level 25 and my measure is level 8

Do I keep upgrading bonuses or go to exploring

[bleak gazelle]

It only raises the cap by that amount. The primary source of actual multi value are the large bubbles for each skill

[astral marten]

ah, gotcha

[bleak gazelle]

I would work on either m10 or push caverns if you're not at 10th one yet

[misty sandal]

And now i need 12 m kill for vman

Should not take too long

[bleak gazelle]

time to break out those cosmics

[misty sandal]

I don't have those

[foggy gull]

is there a guide for the justice statue approvals?

[simple wadi]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Caverns#Monument_Of_Justice-1

[stray tide]

GRIMOIRE

HORY SHET

im not gonna be able to use it at all lmao im only on cavern 3 and getting dusted

[misty sandal]

Vman unlocked

What talents first?

[bleak gazelle]

one point into speedrun then go do that

[misty sandal]

Did it

Now i got 300 points or so

[novel mural]

statues for sure

[misty sandal]

?

[novel mural]

have you done a speedrun yet?

[misty sandal]

Yup

Opened 10 portals or something like that

[bleak gazelle]

your strongest talents will typically be the eclipse enhancement and blood marrow, but both of those will take a decent amount of talent levels (and meal levels, 600+) to really kick off. statues are good, too, but only if you've put in a decent amount of levels for them. For now, i'd look at the wiki to see what Enhancement gives and then make decisions based on that and your account progress

[devout hatch]

Does it matter where you dig?

[simple wadi]

No

[deft charm]

So once i got to w5 with pet doot i put my all chars on divinity and finally close the game?

[hardy halo]

does gaming fertilizer also give you mail

[minor nova]

guys where should I use my wishes on the hole

[novel mural]

as in you have the lamp and dont know what to use it on?

and anyway, there is a very well detailed and explained hole guide here: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[undone wagon]

Does the chemical plants?

[quartz oriole]

do these also trigger daily lamp wishes increase?

[cursive rune]

Does Multikill effect Dragon Warrior statues? If so does it work for active farming on SB? Should i be getting more than 1 statue during active farming?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes but only afk drops

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[cursive rune]

@bleak gazelle just what i was looking for thank you

[graceful mist]

this is multiplicative right?

[quartz oriole]

it looks additive to me, don't take my word for it though

[runic girder]

Best way to get kruk keys?

[digital lava]

I don't even have the hive yet lol

[proud pumice]

beat socks

[runic girder]

Bubo or es?

[proud pumice]

technically es but bubo and dk are fine and they also give you other stuff

[runic girder]

Eh, dont care much bout the other stuff

[proud pumice]

so they're better overall but if you only want keys then es is better

make sure to filter the wurms meat

[runic girder]

Yep

I was pretty sure that was the way but thanks for confirming

[proud pumice]

no problem

[fresh barn]

whats the best way to get dragon statues do i just use candies

[runic girder]

Can you even?

[fresh barn]

cause dk isnt working

mmm i havent tried lol

[runic girder]

Dont believe you can

[fresh barn]

do we have to idle here

[simple wadi]

AFK there on all ten chrs.

[simple wadi]

SB works better.

[earnest flame]

is the damage requirement counting for crits or base damage?

[fierce cargo]

it's the max on your char sheet

[stuck tiger]

Im at 30m damage YO

[bleak gazelle]

i wonder how much better ES is at keys than DK/bubo

[bleak gazelle]

How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Dragon Warrior Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message
Active farm on a Siegebreaker with crystal setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with everyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746
TL;DR - More DR equal shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim. At 30x DR, expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x

[bleak gazelle]

i'm sure it can be lower

[lusty rock]

What's the best way to get my v-man leveled up with divinity? Got him equipped with divinity slippers but struggling to stay ahead of my ES as consumables don't work...

[bleak gazelle]

left/right hand only matter for w1-3 skills

Here's all the div specific xp bonuses, slippers are the only character specific one (and po box i guess)
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=^(%3F!.*(pearl)).*divinity.*xp

[bright meteor]

I'm quitting

[wide remnant]

can anyone help me

[bleak gazelle]

man, only up to 73?

[wide remnant]

ok so im using 3d sampler and i cant make it purple

[bleak gazelle]

i'm at 133, one day i'll get one

[cinder nest]

You need harriep linked

[bleak gazelle]

make sure your lab nodes are connected and you didn't change off of harriep. if it's still yellow (or blue) it's most likely a common visual bug (that got more common with the release of pocket div/hole)

[wide remnant]

when i turn on harriep via villagers

it makes samples blue

ok so its a visual bug

after killing a mob with dk it started to wor

work*

[bleak gazelle]

oh, yeah, if you're on DK then it may flicker a lot, which is to be expected, as orb calculations are causing it to update

[wide remnant]

just gave myself the one that makes af give +to xyz thingys

as 2ndary

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle can have the game up today but the pain too bad

Almost out of my pain meds too cause of the chemist near me not have them in stock @bleak gazelle

[vale compass]

after s

my highest justice, unlucky tho ;c

[digital lava]

Is there any secret way to do this like the W2 one?

[stray tide]

i just got into W5 recently should i be able to do any hole things?

i got stomped on by the lowest lvl of cavern 3 so idk

but then again i wasnt using my character properly

[digital lava]

Yeah. Also you might already have it on your world 5 map, check

[bleak gazelle]

A lot of it is just getting things started so your villagers and bonuses can get rolling

[stray tide]

ive already started hole im just wondering if i shouldnt be doing it as much as i have instead of div jail

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably afk at Bravery for the first 2-3 bonuses then head back to div and other things

[digital lava]

You can put off cavern 3. It might be aslow start. Eventually you'll unlock a lot of other caverns

@stray tide Also make sure you unlock the W5 taskboard if you haven't yet, one of the merit shop purchases increases exp gain the W5 skills, so better earlier in the divinity jail

[stray tide]

ooh thx i havnt pushed at all yet

[digital lava]

You can teleport to cavern, then go back a portal, to get to the maps you need for the loot. Before unlocking those portals the normal way

[stray tide]

i knew that but thx anyway

how should i gage how much amplifiers i should do

also is there a way to actually complete hounds instead of the fear thing just killing me

[bleak gazelle]

Nope, that's the mechanic

[stray tide]

aight, im too low anyway i need at least 10x and 10x makes them do 10T damage

im not surviving that

[digital lava]

Also 1 of the bell upgrades probably costs more money than you can afford eaerly W5. Just worry about those stuff later. The other Bell upgrades will be easier

[bleak gazelle]

you can play with it a bit to try and get another opal but probably better to come back with more account progression. you'll also unlock new amplifiers to boost your score

[stray tide]

👍

[pastel kayak]

I hate the rain @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

but rain is nice, makes it not hot

[stray tide]

is there a way to close the game down properly? i keep getting rollback

[bleak gazelle]

Menu > Swap Players > Cloudsave then exit from there

[stray tide]

exit as in close tab from there?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah. on steam or browser I just X out from there

[stray tide]

ok

[bleak gazelle]

on mobile i'd force close the app

[stray tide]

holy shit ive spent like 200 div already on the stupid snake why am i so unlocky

thats another 2 25%

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle the rain makes my wifi play up

[edgy shoal]

oof, i just use the low offer as a rotation to get me to the 100% one,never had a low one pop

[stray tide]

i got two of the 50%'s but rngeesus has forsaken me

[edgy shoal]

yeah i never bothered with a 50

[digital lava]

Yeah 50 is gonna feel worse than it is, I would just roll low til the high is 100 and grind to that

[brave fable]

how many maxed vials do i need for 100% snake skin

[signal hearth]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[junior arrow]

27

[peak summit]

Is there any better world boss a step down from kruk to farm if it takes too long to collect keys?

[bleak gazelle]

troll if you've done the merits so you can one shot him otherwise chiz

[stray tide]

is there a cmd for fighting card build?

[fickle lake]

which one u need? multikill? Total dmg?

[stray tide]

total dmg

i already have a build but i just now thought that there might be a meta that im not using

[peak summit]

is there a smithing point allocation guide ?

i only used to put pts into speed

but i run out space for thread and other stuff

[stray tide]

if you run out of space put it in capacity if not put in speed

[peak summit]

but how do other ppl do it cuz i only run out of space on early production

[zinc torrent]

DOOT CLUB!!

[peak summit]

dayum nice

[bleak gazelle]

max speed if you're not capping

[stray tide]

W

[cinder nest]

Das crazy

[bleak gazelle]

add cap when necessary

[zinc torrent]

Very happi :3

[bleak gazelle]

In case you aren't aware
https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[stray tide]

hype

[zinc torrent]

Yup i got my ES linked to purrmep already.

[stray tide]

bruhhhh void wand needs 5k of the blue souls thats so cringe

[zinc torrent]

Wait you get all gods benefits even locked ones??

[stray tide]

oh shit i thought lvl 2 on all alts meant on the gods

guess gods dont have lvls

[peak verge]

Well.... they have ranks.

[stray tide]

oh yeah i see

god i want doot

[stable temple]

[stray tide]

[proud pumice]

that's basically free, don't know what you're on about

[cyan mantle]

Unless you have max copper vial don't talk to me

[proud pumice]

this one?

that's an easy one, i need to grind this one soon but its annoyinh

[cyan mantle]

Nah copper ore its the hardest thing in the game

[proud pumice]

yeah that one is at lvl 4

pushed there for shaman damage

[fickle lake]

@bleak gazelle what cards do i use for sampling? I assume bunny and troll since i alr have all the skilling cards as passive but idk what else to put

[bleak gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324

[stray tide]

ooh i dont have this doc. adding to the pile

finally got my ES geared for pushing and holy moly im feeling the active ES speed

what rate does active ES kill at?

[fickle lake]

10x diff…. holy.

[bleak gazelle]

gotta hit that 1b

[stray tide]

oh... oh no....

[fickle lake]

It was a mistake for me to run dr instead of all stat lmao

[stray tide]

golden meat pie best for survivability?

[cyan mantle]

The star talent

[stray tide]

well yeah...

[bleak gazelle]

just use a red pot

[fickle lake]

is there a way to check my sample amount without royal sampler?

[bleak gazelle]

your defense at this stage is laughable

your sample rate? IT and autoreview should have actual values

[stray tide]

oh wait maybe i should buy the next tier food too?

oh yeah and the upgrade stone... shit

[bleak gazelle]

probably w ouldn't hurt

red pot > meat pies though

[stray tide]

no way to remove all upgrade stone is there? i need to make new armour?

used the W4 stones

[fickle lake]

uh.

[bleak gazelle]

that is neither of the sites mentioned

[stray tide]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[bleak gazelle]

On IT you can go to Account > W3 > Printer

[stray tide]

missing out on 36 def becuase my dumbass used the wrong stones

[fickle lake]

not there yet sadly

[brave fable]

i think if i resample i can hit 1b copper ore

[vague lagoon]

why is it blue

[bleak gazelle]

this is old af but might be helpful. you can also just browse your cards on toolbox and search
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1090072110879219803

[bleak gazelle]

1 in 1k chance for 2x reward

i'd still go for bell though

[vague lagoon]

awesome, thank you!

I had it once before but didn't get a screenshot

[turbid plaza]

I remember seeing a ss of someone getting 2 opals from blue. Crazy stuff

Post ss of you getting 3 opols from one draw or you are a poser waffle

@brave fable

[brave fable]

erm

cant do that sadly

[turbid plaza]

You’ve lost pinchy privilege

Traitor ace

[empty tapir]

ima just favorite this on my computer for later..(Thank you!)

[zinc torrent]

I'm mega glad i got doot but just realized... have to resample now 😮‍💨

[proud arch]

sample times the best \ o/

easy 10x gains every couple weeks

[cyan mantle]

Why does everyone have doot

[proud arch]

i have no doot dw

i run on the power of alchemy instead

[cyan mantle]

Okay why do most have doot

[proud arch]

vocal bias

[cyan mantle]

It's a bit of an exaggeration fine but alot of people have doot

[proud arch]

its a vocal bias xD

not many have doot xD

you just want doot 😛 so it makes it even louder when you see dooted people

[zinc torrent]

I paid for it :3

[oblique jasper]

Same

[zinc torrent]

Doot changes divinty to be fun instead of a hassle changing gods with pocket divinty

[proud arch]

lol pocket divinity is a blessing xD

i remember planning out sample run 2 weeks in advance previously

[zinc torrent]

Pocket divinity is damn nice 👌

[proud arch]

i am grateful for it xD

[pastel kayak]

@oblique jasper good for me?

[cyan mantle]

My things at 3x

[proud arch]

intentionally making it even spread?

[rich stratus]

Doesn’t opal chance fall off after the first couple u get
Or am I wrong

[pastel kayak]

Sort of

[oblique jasper]

Yeah that’s good. Just make sure to focus less on opal chance

[zinc torrent]

What's an ?

[undone wagon]

I dont have it, brother

[undone wagon]

A w5 thing inside the Caverns (The Hole)

[zinc torrent]

😏 hole?

[stuck river]

Please dont tell me that the next update are more caverns

[zinc torrent]

Ahh.. sorry buddy..

[junior arrow]

whats wrong with more caverns?

[stuck river]

Well I just want more other stuff so😔

[zinc torrent]

"Master Classes"

Far far more interesting than more power creeping mechanics

[cyan mantle]

W6 boss 😔

[stuck river]

Real

[hollow igloo]

So am i missing something with the gravel collection in the caverns? It says 100/100, i can't get more. How do i collect it?

[zinc torrent]

You'll unlock schematics through leveling the engineer that'll expand the limit on minerals produced.

There's also a little red slider that changes from red(off) to green(on) to expand the limit.

[hollow igloo]

???

Hold on

This is what I see

[junior arrow]

you need this

then click off the bucket and if you see a switch turn it on

[hollow igloo]

How do i get that? I just found the engineer but don't have any opals to give him. How do i get more? I read the wiki but there's not much there

[junior arrow]

click off the bucket it should tell you how much gravel you need for another opal

also mine layers in the 2nd cavern

get a new high score in the 3rd
complete more stories in the 4th

every cavern offers more opals

[hollow igloo]

So that's where I'm confused. He wants at least 1k but i can only have max 100.

Okay, i see that there's little things to do in each. This is way more confusing than it needs to be

[junior arrow]

next opals you get put straight into engineer

you need levels in that for more schematics

[hollow igloo]

I'll try. Idk why the C4 guy is so irritable but i guess I'll find out

[zinc torrent]

Wdym?

[hollow igloo]

He keeps telling me i have the wrong person and to come back in an hour

[zinc torrent]

Yup, you need to leave a character just standing there afk for an hour and do something else with another character.

[hollow igloo]

Huh. Like i said, this is so not intuitive. I feel like each world is more confusing and convoluted than the last

[brave fable]

well he did tell you to leave and come back

[zinc torrent]

It's a time based skill.
You have to leave a character there for minimum 1 hour to unlock it.

[hollow igloo]

I thought he meant physically. Also, he said i had the wrong character so idk.

Side note, how do you get superglue off your skin? Asking for a friend....

[brave fable]

heard warm water helps

looking at google and acetone, detergent

a solvent

ion never had to deal with that before

[hollow igloo]

Ty, I'll let my, uh, friend know

[brave fable]

good lucl

[zinc torrent]

Me personally i just pick at it until it's off and if skin goes with it 🤷 it's off though.

[brave fable]

i like to nibble on it

[hollow igloo]

It's driving me crazy cause it's on my pointer finger so it makes it hard to play on my ipad.

[brave fable]

maybe

[hollow igloo]

For the c2, can i leave the character afk to mine the rock?

[brave fable]

yes but you need to collect drops when you claim

or else it ownt count towards the lode

[barren nymph]

I don’t mean any disrespect but by any chance is English not your native language? I’ve seen a couple people complain about this exact thing and it makes no sense to me because that’s not what he says.

[hollow igloo]

Its my native. And i have a masters in teaching English. So yeah, im probably just stupid. How does being a native speaker relate?

[viral python]

what quest is it for?

[hollow igloo]

We were talking about the caverns and i was complaining that it wasnt intuitive. Specifically, what the c4 guy was saying didn't make sense to me.

[viral python]

the c4 guy?

dynamite dude?

[viral python]

i dont think the c4 guys dialogue is really important just unlocks schematics

[silver pumice]

can you get multiple divine trophies from the mole questline on different characters?

[viral python]

each character has their own quest for kruk yes

[barren nymph]

The community of this game has a reputation for misunderstanding almost everything in the game. The joke is that the players can’t read. But my guess is just that free games tend to attract a large percentage of children and people from countries whose currency prevents them from buying games.

[hollow igloo]

So, from my perspective. This is a really weird game. A lot of it isn't intuitive and has odd mechanics that you wouldnt really figure out without significant help from guides or others. That's the part that gets me. Like, how would someone know to put all of your characters in lab and divinity without someone telling you?

I do come from a generation where like you didn't have online help for games.

[barren nymph]

That’s definitely true in general. I agree with you there.

[bitter pasture]

is there a strat to unlock chem plants in gaming?

[twin pendant]

Click as often as possible

[bitter pasture]

i've been doing that for half a year or longer at this point

[twin pendant]

Quantity is the key there cause of super heavy diminishing results on the %

[barren nymph]

Unfortunately that is the way of it. The odds are unfortunately just very low and other than increasing frequency by gambling on it every time you harvest a plant there isn’t anything you can do

[bitter pasture]

wasnt there something to do with the kitsune rock so i could spam the odds

[barren nymph]

I mean yeah, as your plant spawn rate increases you can do it more frequently

[twin pendant]

Kitsune helps a little to get your speed up -> more plants

Don't sit on farming either. The speed boost to gaming is absolutely huge

[bitter pasture]

im not, im currently at lv80 and started farming beans so i could hit the night market goals

[twin pendant]

Other than those, and basic speed upgrades in gaming, heavy focus on squirrel speed upgrades

The bit multi scales very bad in comparison so use most of your nuts on speed

[bitter pasture]

i've got squirrel at +132% already

[twin pendant]

Sounds like you've everything in order then. It's just a numbers game from there and hope for that rng jackpot

[bitter pasture]

damn

i've been trying for a while but now i'ts a little more urgent due to the equinox challenge

[twin pendant]

W5 is very heavy on rng mechanics and yeh it can get very annoying.

[bitter pasture]

alr ty

[lusty rock]

Okay, thank you 👍 I'll take my v-man off divinity then. Feel bad I wasted time cooking too now as well 😅

[hollow igloo]

Should i leave room for sprouts or just let them mutate/grow?

[peak summit]

just over 200 boss keys from just over 7hrs of bubo farming, that's kinda bad no?

[ruby barn]

finally got it 🥳

[peak verge]

Bubo is CC with keys on the side. Looks about right depending on your crystal chance and whether you have choco or not.

If you want a lot more keys, DK is the way to go.

[peak summit]

ah okay that makes more sense thanks

[novel mural]

is it only because of orb?

[peak verge]

Indeed. The DR from the orb will get you more keys.

[vapid geode]

When do I want to do my first renew?

[novel mural]

whats the benefit of doing that?

[peak verge]

Once you get both engi schematics unlocked, you renew in order to get more bonuses for the cost

[novel mural]

huh

[peak verge]

there are two engi schematics which give you chances to get additional levels. renewing resets costs so you can ideally get more levels

[novel mural]

thats actually big brain, thanks for clarifying

[runic girder]

Is this a normal amount of keys for 6-7 hours of active? Cause this isnt even 4 nightmare fights

[nocturne bloom]

You should use DK for keys farming

[hearty robin]

whats the link to that divinity guide?

[bleak gazelle]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[wispy birch]

Put everyone on focus get. goat god. Put everyone in lab. Boom you do divinity and lab jail both at once

[peak verge]

You have 21.6x DR with the full GS drip. I have 23x without any of it. Are you sure you're not missing some of the more basic stuff? Also how's your crystal chance?

[runic girder]

Crystal chance matters here?

[peak verge]

Actually u right, crystal doesn't matter, I'm just used to farming on DK mb.

[runic girder]

As for dr dont think im missing too much, just looking for the dr calc real quick now to see if i might miss anythinf

[peak verge]

300 keys for 7 hours sounds criminal tho

[runic girder]

Put obol dr set on ES now, 23.18x

[proud pumice]

here's the updated DR calc, don't know if you're using that one #endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[runic girder]

Was looking in tips and tricks, thanks

[spare cipher]

i know i dont check in here to often and play casualy compared to when W3 was coming out, but god dam when did ~25+ DR become the casual acceptable late game ammount? XD

[proud pumice]

after w6

we got some DR multipliers

and a DR golden food

[spare cipher]

i see, a few things to catch up on once i finish getting my sleepy time hours in monument, nothing and lab/gods XD

[hearty robin]

makes sense

[runic girder]

Am i dumb or what is this?

[runic girder]

Doesnt looks like i missed too much, easiest dr probably would be shinies, gold food and plunder kills

[peak verge]

Guild bonus

[runic girder]

Aah thats the one, thanks

Would have never guessed to look there

[runic girder]

Do you use dk for keys?

[peak verge]

Not for keys necessarily but I just let him farm statues/g.food at wurms and he gets more than enough keys in the process.

[mighty rover]

What is the max level if any for the world 4 stuff in the lamp map?(it's something thats not on the wiki)

[bleak gazelle]

no max as far as we know

it's just increasing wish cost

[runic girder]

Wait why tf was i farming moles

Wurms literally got 3x the dr

[bleak gazelle]

zebra's the only endgamer I can think of that would have taken w4 to a decent stage as most others don't care/need anything from w4

[craggy obsidian]

Ay, i recently got journeyman as my last character(intentional)

Bro levels up like a snail;-; is this normal

And his kph is so low

[bleak gazelle]

idk, maybe misunderstood what socks meant, though he did say wurm meat further down

[runic girder]

Usually yes, but for a 10th character i wouldnt expect much trouble

[craggy obsidian]

Ah oka,

[runic girder]

Dont ask me how i got moles from that

[craggy obsidian]

Hes not doing that well, lvl 79 in a few hours, less than 5k kph

[proud pumice]

send him to w4/w5 for an exp boost before getting him to jman

[stable temple]

Level your jman at crystal island with choco chip

[craggy obsidian]

Crystal island.. i forgor bout that

[stable temple]

Choco chipped crystal island mobs give the same amount of exp as the original giant crystals as far as I can tell

Massive massive exp (if rng)

[runic girder]

Ill be back tomorrow with results from wurms

Should be ~3x the drops

Bit less because of increased hp

[mighty rover]

I'm currently at this point on that one

[craggy obsidian]

Confused, wdym by original giant crystals

[bleak gazelle]

heres... 1.75 days at wurms? I had another ~110k grilled cheese that I deposited

[runic girder]

Crystals on the island are crystal + giant

[runic girder]

Bit of a dr and damage diff

[mighty rover]

When does the damage go from m to t

[runic girder]

Thoughb damage doesnt matter on dk

[bleak gazelle]

damage doesn't matter as long as you're 1 tapping

[runic girder]

It would on ES but true

[bleak gazelle]

ah right, still think you should just hop on dk though

[runic girder]

But still basically twice my dr

[runic girder]

Ill try that

[bleak gazelle]

the extra statues and gfood are worth the keys

[bleak gazelle]

10t i think?

[runic girder]

Does it eventually go to q?

Or are we stuck in the t

[bleak gazelle]

stuck on t for now

if anything it'd go to QQ

[mighty rover]

My two highed damage

[mighty rover]

I think its 10Q. I know there are a few up there is think gardevoir is up there

@rugged spindle what's your high damaging character

[bleak gazelle]

I was saying QQ due to it jumping from M to T and skipping B, so if he followed that pattern then it'd be QQ

[crimson thistle]

If only the numbers were normal

[agile helm]

so im trying to get molten core knuckles for my vman, ive killed 1billion+ suggma with 20x DR, it still hasnt dropped. any advice other than to keep active farming them?

[echo crag]

thats really getting hard to read lol is that QQ or QQQ

[bleak gazelle]

I have ___ kills on Suggmas. Why haven't I gotten the recipe yet?
Understand that DN count includes MK, KPK, and other multis which aren't accounted for when you go for loot. Loot is based on base kills so you have to factor all those out. Generally, a good comparison is to look at the number of Royal Urn drops you have. On average, most get it around 1K urns collected (or roughly 1B DN kills if you insist on using this count as a measure).

209QQQ

[agile helm]

ahhh i see, thanks for explaining, ive gotten a little over 1k by now so ill keep at it

[echo crag]

lava need to had QQ or probably just have dmg start using e^X values

[bleak gazelle]

We've had a few people who've gone up to 4k urns, so you wouldn't be alone

[agile helm]

thats so cringe, praying for myself fr

[bleak gazelle]

I'd say just come back at higher DR or just leave someone there long enough to get a guaranteed drop

[agile helm]

my es should be fine ill see what i can do about my DR, thanks again homie

[runic girder]

Pretty sure thats even more then qqq

1 qqq = 1.000.000.000 t

So 209 qqq

[echo crag]

writting it down help cuz you can separate the numbers, but looking at it in game is just painful

[runic girder]

Number lose significance like that, hard to care about the number when you can barely even contextualise it

[gritty cairn]

should i farm the molten core knuckles recipe with DK or ES?

[echo crag]

es

[hollow igloo]

Do you earn more divinity exp as you level up? Is it like the lab?

[echo crag]

the stances you unlock for div will give you better exp

theres also a few div exp modifier you will unlock from cooking and sailing

[hollow igloo]

So leveling up really only helps in getting stances?

[echo crag]

leveling up will also boost the minor link bonus strength

[near bear]

can i upgrade my captains faster if i have two Siege Breakers with two skills that increase the rate of exp the captain get.

i mean double the rate?

[echo crag]

nope those talent dont stack

[near bear]

damn ok

thank god i asked before getting another SB

[echo crag]

none of the buff from the last line in elite classes stack

[silent birch]

I think ppl still go for two sb

[near bear]

How much does strength help in cooking?

[graceful mist]

does discovering new islands give exp?

[near bear]

sorry wrong place cooking is w4

[graceful mist]

to the captain

[peak summit]

at what point does dk start to gain more w5 keys than bubo?

[echo crag]

not sure it does

best map for key is wurms, and bubo can delete and respawn that map every second

[errant pond]

You still want another SB (atleast thats the current meta)

[rotund zinc]

what should I put my point in

[marble lotus]

vill xp

or extra strings

[near bear]

is that so. Why exactly?

[marble lotus]

there are several reasons, bug sampling, good AFK kills, good for rift skulls and you can fully invest one into sailing early on

having 3 archers overall is also good for the forge

[cyan mantle]

It's 2 es, 2 sb, 2dk, 1bb, 1bubo and 1bm

[near bear]

i dont know anythign about rift skulls yet but i did not think bug sampling was this important

[near bear]

for the forge not the anvil? how do archers and forges work together?

[errant hound]

it has skill which each kill reduces time off the forge

[marble lotus]

2 sb + 1 bm = 3 archers...

[cyan mantle]

I know I just read your message

That I replied to

[near bear]

oh right i completely forgot

[vernal relic]

what does this cap mean? does it mean if i reach this cap i wont see it in in chest selection again?

i havent gotten to cap yet so idk

[bleak gazelle]

no, just value cap, you can still get them to show up

the values shown on your monument also take into consideration conjuror bonus, which that table doesn't account for, so double them

[vernal relic]

so its pointless to get it beyond that point?

[bleak gazelle]

no, since they're logarithmic, continuing to take them will still give value, just...not a lot as you get closer to that cap

[vernal relic]

oh ok

[bleak gazelle]

If you're looking at the bonuses on your monument, you'd need to double the values in the table

Assuming you have this bonus maxed*

[vernal relic]

i do

[bleak gazelle]

Here was a 1 hour test of keys on DK, ignore other stuff since I haven't deposited

[rigid mango]

Should I go tooth of the divine or divine scarf

[bleak gazelle]

considering tooth is an ingredient for divine, which do you think is better?

[rigid mango]

Well it just seemed odd to go from damage boost to afk gain rate

Btw this has nothing to do with this but why do I always see people keeping po pens unclaimed

[bleak gazelle]

You can gain damage from hundreds of sources, afk and especially mob respawn are rarer. Granted, for active DK it kind of doesn't matter

If anyhting I should probably wear this for the DR

[echo crag]

is that the only dr pendant ?

[bleak gazelle]

like in inventory/stash? they've probably finished PO box (or are letting the atom finish it slowly) and are going for a greenstack

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, afaik

[turbid plaza]

For you, yes. I have the 50x dr pendent from bribing lava

[rigid mango]

I'm still not that buffed damage so I'm using the 1.3 damage multi pendant

[rigid mango]

Fair enough

[bleak gazelle]

and that would be more damage than the tooth provides

[echo crag]

oh a x50 drop reduction pendant, lucky you

[rigid mango]

I was not asking for my dk and unfortunately idh 10 of those

[turbid plaza]

Yeah now I have -20x dr. When I farm statues they get deleted from my inventory instead

[subtle osprey]

Hi! Is there any trick to getting Cards Stamp?

[bleak gazelle]

Nope, just rng

[echo crag]

pray to rng when lvl up gift bubble procs

[bleak gazelle]

Assuming you have the bubble equipped or have Sheepie

[zinc torrent]

Would anyone happen to have a DR breakpoint?

I'm on 16.5 about to hit 17 today

[turbid plaza]

I thinks it’s every odd number and .01

So 15.01, 17.01, 19.01, etc

[bleak gazelle]

for cash breakpoints at least

[turbid plaza]

Dr affects coin drops?

How am I just now learning this

[shell python]

How do I make my es ready for pushing to w6?

[bleak gazelle]

for now probably hang out on first map to gain some levels

i'd also try to do some more w3 merits so you can get your 4th food slot

[icy pulsar]

that es won’t be seeing w6 pushing for a while

[dapper lake]

Pog 2 in 1go

after this which island shoud i go for sovereign?

[errant pond]

I just go for whatever artifact buff i want the most tbh

[runic girder]

Your 1 hour vs my 7

[bleak gazelle]

all the ones up to frost island should be pretty fast to get

[errant pond]

I got all pre-frost pretty quickly but frost has been taking forever

[marble lotus]

I just unlocked 5 star cards, should I aim to get the crystal cards first or should I just farm the card cards?

[errant pond]

Card-cards probably the best play

[frail stag]

The measurer in "the hole" it's there currently anything after this point?

Alright guess the Pearls go to the conjurer

Opals woops

[misty sandal]

Anything i can do to be able to speedrun w5?

[turbid plaza]

Get damage and mob respawn like any other world

[neat hinge]

The Unending Energy Prayer doesn't apply to Monument AFK Gains right? It lets me redeem 10+ hours of AFK gains at Bravery even with it on

[bleak gazelle]

i've never used it, the extremely tiny bonus isn't worth losing out on god knows how many potential afk hours

actually. i used it once then turned it off right away

[fierce cargo]

whooo it's been 2 months

[chrome light]

omg only now realized that bubbles upgrade cost has a huge difference in cost depends on the class

[bleak gazelle]

yes, due to 2, 15, and 17th bubbles

[chrome light]

dont even want to think how much anvil resources like cords were wasted

[graceful mist]

that's max boat speed right?

[vast tartan]

Hi, i ve just learned that the monument statue has a bug or glitch ? what is it pls ?

or monument justice, dont know ^^

[uneven sequoia]

What lvl Vman is needed to one shot Nightmare Kattlecruk? LOL

[junior arrow]

lvl means nothing

[pale phoenix]

do i need to equip the artifacts from sailing anywhere? because the artifact that are with sailing lvl say that it gives 0%

[vast tartan]

get out the map and come back

[pale phoenix]

ty

[bleak gazelle]

Only thing i can think of is the lamp wishes bonus and justice multi bonus aren't active

[open cloak]

two more days until I unlock the W6 wishes...

is 6.8 wishes a day pretty decent?

[bleak gazelle]

about average for most mid-late gamers who didn't completely whale hole

a bit better than average probably

[open cloak]

I need moar wishes

I wish I had more wishes. Wait, can I wish for more wishes?

[stray tide]

Just got home. What are the thoughts on the recent blog post?

[young nest]

What the... quick worship is unusable with dragon onyxed and some levels, it disappeared before I managed to spend

[open cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/subarru446-gif-18324499

[languid mist]

Just got the goat after almost 2 weeks of divinity jail off a 5% tribute 🥹 Do I just pocket divinity everyone to goat now and jail them in the lab? I can link 2 gods through it. I'm thinking Goat + nobisect in pocket divinity and then I guess harriep in the altar? Would this straight up give me 3 links?

[dapper lake]

fair well i just go for the close/easy ones like im doing 3-4island at the same time

[eager violet]

Does anyone know how rare this occurrence actually is?

I got my first ancient loot on that island before I got a second relic

[bleak gazelle]

It does indeed give you 3 links, here's what some of us like to recommend

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

Since you don't have Omni unlocked and you'll have people in and out of lab, you could use Snake

and main link nobi on the folks outside

[languid mist]

My only issue is that the folks outside will basically rotate on a whim; it'll depend on whether I need to grind exp or other stuff with them. But I think I can make it work if I plan it well enough instead of just taking people out of the lab willy nilly. Very helpful, thank you!

[void shell]

w5 now, I intend to use my ES to push to w6, should I wait for nobi to push or just start? (At arctis now) I'm currently just linking them to Arctis for the killer brightside node

[bleak gazelle]

Can probably start going for it now, especially if you want to unlock the merit board. Once you get Nobi you can link your ES to both via the Polytheism talent. Check the 📌 for a visual guide if you need help with it

[void shell]

I unlocked the merit board, teleported to hole and backtracked from there 😂

Speaking of which, I should probably go afk 1h at bravery

[open cloak]

how's this looking

for context I have had cooking maxed for a while so the only cooking levels here were misclicks 🙂

since I unlocked everything and bucket progression has slowed, my priorities are:

Opal > AFK > Bell > Dmg > Mining > Gaming > Fill > Opal chance > XP > Cooking

[fierce cargo]

dmg is pretty bad isn't it, cause it's additive

i put mining before dmg

[dapper lake]

For overall piro shoud i go like dmg-mining and then village xp

?

[fierce cargo]

actual opal is #1 no matter what, if it's opal chance, that can go at the bottom

[open cloak]

I mean, 4000% additive damage is still a lot

Yeah, opal chance. MB. I agree Opal is #1

[open cloak]

I dont' care about village XP I have everything (and more) unlocked

[dapper lake]

Yhe i dont think i close to that point

[fierce cargo]

village exp is huge

[stray tide]

how do i actually align with a god? i just got the snake but nothing seems to do anything

[fierce cargo]

cavern 15, is 14b exp

[open cloak]

it is up util everything is unlocked

I assume there will be more village xp multipliers in later caverns

otherwise it is not feasible to unlock future ones

[dapper lake]

so just opals in any case but other go for mining-dmg

[fierce cargo]

just depends where you are in the game i guess. skill eff is big prio for a long time, atoms/prints are important

[dapper lake]

yhe i mostly do my 40atoms on more mining power for a HUGE copper print

[open cloak]

agreed, but my copper print is like 65B

[stray tide]

yeah what? how do i link a character to a divinity

bruh the hitbox is a tiny subset of the sprite and i need to be on the altar

[bleak gazelle]

press the pedestal below the god

[stray tide]

that doesnt do anything it just acts like i wanna move there

[bleak gazelle]

oh, no, sorry i got that backwards

just click in the middle of their body while you're on the altar

[stray tide]

yeah i figured it out, but it was annoying

[dapper lake]

Whats the cap for golden hampster?

I mean like optimal for each char

Oh okay yhe not even close got it

[fickle shadow]

when should i stop in divinity

[fickle lake]

getting there

[fickle lake]

when everybody is at least 80

[fickle shadow]

what god should i get/use?

[fickle lake]

get all… use has its cases but ppl usually rush to bear then gohart

[fickle shadow]

oks

[faint wigeon]

first breakpoint is div 40 for tranqi style and then yeah 80 for the last style for a stamp quest and more point ig

[fickle shadow]

thx

[stray tide]

do monument hours accumulate faster with more characters paying respect at once?

also whats the time interval on when i can do a story? i didnt see it on the wiki

[bleak gazelle]

20 hours

[stray tide]

i see what people mean now about lava stacking jails in W5...

[bleak gazelle]

multi will scale linearly up to 2.4x over 48 hours from your last run and then will drop off pretty harshly after that

[stray tide]

the multiplier doesnt seem to change the rewards much between if i do it once every 20 hours and once every 40 is the optimal strat just to do it anywhere in that range?

[faint wigeon]

it’s just in case you can’t do it every day, doing it every two days gives same value kinda

[bleak gazelle]

early on the strat is definitely as often as possible as you want to take as many opals as you can get and the multi won't affect opals. i think someone said 1.2x multi (so 24 hours) might be ideal for how it affects some bonuses, but, again, early on it doesn't matter much when you can only do 10-15 waves

[craggy obsidian]

anyone know how to log into IE if u ply on steam, my frens tried using the google account linked to their steam with no success

[quiet plaza]

u dont

[stray tide]

it brokie. at least for new players idk exactly what happened

i can still use it on steam but ive owned the game for 2+ years so my acc is old

[stable temple]

Lvl42 engineer has a schematic that lets you get justice and bravery progress when you're on the divinity altar

[fierce cargo]

42?? ffs

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-lizard-me-when-i-lie-lizard-little-puss-gif-27004064

[fierce cargo]

i'll get that in 3 years

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle got last night

[rich prairie]

is there an order or priority for how you spend cosmos points in the hole?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700 message

[molten thunder]

Can somebody help me out with this? They keep everybody says it's nothing's wrong. It's not a bug or anything. I got the recipe for the gloves before I unlock the 5th. Anvil but I don't have it. It's still a? I can't seem to get the recipe to drop again. It's supposed to drop 1-50 million and I'm at 200 million

[faint wigeon]

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[faint wigeon]

if recipe grey : never got a recipe from that anvil tab
if colored recipe : got a recipe from anvil tab
if recipe disappeared : you learned it

[molten thunder]

Then why can't I get it to drop a meant I'm 150 million over the drop rate. It's $1 in 50 million and I'm at 200 million

[junior arrow]

cause thats not how that works, recipes dont account for multikill

your real kills are much lower

[faint wigeon]

guaranteed afk drop is another thing

[junior arrow]

also RNG is RNG, you could get it in 1 kill or 1 billion kills, it never says you will get it after 50m kills

[molten thunder]

Gotcha thanks guy I really appreciated it. I thought it broke something

[pine jasper]

hey guys, i put my info into the gaming spreadsheet and it says i should be able to do instant gaming, however when i go to w5 town it seems extremely slow. have kitsune activated and all that; i can 5s game outside of w5 town just fine?

[bleak gazelle]

not sure, haven't had too many people have issues with it. can you post your input section? also make sure your lab gem is lit up?

[warm path]

its the classic % on purmep

[pine jasper]

pfft yep it was the %; i had added it first with the % sign and it errored out the calcs below so i assumed i didn't need it LOL

ig something else i added in made it actually calc now; 80% of the way to instant. ty team

[bleak gazelle]

ah, yeah, i forgot to ask about that since it auto fills it in

[hasty tartan]

any idea how much sheet damage i need to kill chaotic kruk on vman?
he is not budging at this amount

i think 8b damage on my es killed him in under 30 sec, so i assume id need something at least around like 6-7b?

[faint wigeon]

1 bil is enough tbh

Did it with a bit less and made the error of using the speedrun midway through it

[hasty tartan]

skill issue on my part then i guess, cant time the cooldowns to deal with the moles

[faint wigeon]

Just gotta kill them when they’re close and dont have the aoe

[uneven estuary]

Is there a strategy to log

[sick sentinel]

nope its random

[errant hound]

how is ur sailing level so high?

[fickle lake]

How is ur construction so high?

[errant hound]

i am in w6 since 4 aug

wbu?

[fickle lake]

um… last mth.

[errant hound]

hmmm not bad tho i didnt make that good progress

[fickle lake]

your skilling needs work

[fickle lake]

well tbf ive been using a method not much ppl can, its called using your salary for a pixel game

[errant hound]

xD

im f2p

[stray tide]

based

[faint wigeon]

Sailing goes fast with omni procs and unending loot or whatever the name is with high speed boat

[errant hound]

ohh

i didnt do that too much

[fickle lake]

Your catching is rather low for late w6 isnt it?

[faint wigeon]

late w6? I don’t even think i’m early w6

but yeah been ignoring my fishing and catching lvl for a while

[fickle lake]

oh, mb

[faint wigeon]

it’s alr

[errant hound]

ur trapping kinda high xD nice

[fickle lake]

my skilling is horrendous as of rn kek

[errant hound]

my worship is higher even tho i forget to use transfusion

[errant hound]

mine is more bad

[fickle lake]

my catching is so low cause of the exp gains, i left my computer on overnight at the equinox and woke up only 2 levels on vman

[errant hound]

u see mine is much worse

[faint wigeon]

not high enough for vman’s talent

[fickle lake]

farming is so slow

[faint wigeon]

fr

[fickle lake]

[fickle lake]

ive only discovered 30 so far

[errant hound]

30!?

[fickle lake]

but the gains are insane

[errant hound]

im at 27 or so..

😭

[fickle lake]

im debating on buying the next pack tmr to spend it all on garden plots or treasure chest spots

something tells me i should do garden plots but at the same time my luck for artifacts is horrid

[fickle lake]

0.2%

[errant hound]

do plots plots better

[fickle lake]

trying to get everybody to lustre but dense water and salt lock

[errant hound]

dense water? im only salt lock

[fickle lake]

[faint wigeon]

I got 12..

still on the first seed tho

[fickle lake]

yeh ik, for my progress that still being water locked is stupendous

[faint wigeon]

wanna buy all the upgrade from the market first

[errant hound]

its ok just buy 10 daily

[faint wigeon]

buy 11 🗿

[errant hound]

thats what i did and then i am on new strat

[fickle lake]

might wanna go push rift soon, just gunna progress more alchemy and then do it

[errant hound]

all plots upgrade day market and 1 of each for new crop

[faint wigeon]

yeah gonna do it one day

[errant hound]

new strat i only started like 2d ago

so im getting my early carrot/potato xp upg i hadnt done before

[fickle lake]

@faint wigeon time for u to roast my acc again https://ruleoutlaw.idleonefficiency.com

[faint wigeon]

noooo

[fickle lake]

Oh yeh if it gets too annoying uh do tell me, im not good at reading signs

[faint wigeon]

though I left that job for 2024

gonna do it after i’m eating

[fickle lake]

idk which is easier to ppl to judge your acc, is it IE or TL

[stray tide]

probably based on preferance

[faint wigeon]

dear god I don’t think i’m gonna stick with my strat seeing the costs of future stronger vine upgrades

[stray tide]

i like IT but someone rated my acc with IE

[faint wigeon]

I prefer IT as it’s the one i’m most accustomed to

[errant hound]

yep

[fickle lake]

@faint wigeon https://idleontoolbox.com/dashboard?profile=RuleOutlaw to make your life slightly easier

i about 10x my cooking speed again

super chow rlly does give a substantial cooking buff

[errant hound]

ur gear kinda good on all char

my gear shit on most characters

[faint wigeon]

keith tell me does he have his 10 daily keys on all boss?

[errant hound]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=NebulaKnight

[fickle lake]

no

[faint wigeon]

been god knows how long I’ve been telling him to do it

[errant hound]

i also dont have 10 daily on all

i have done on w2/w3 but not w1 yet

[faint wigeon]

cmon

oh its alr then

as long as you have w3

[fickle lake]

and i will continue not to do so. (mainly because whenever the wk reset i forgot i left my bubo active on worms and now my giant chance is 1/520k kek)

[errant hound]

w1 need to gstack so i help it off for later

well the free keys is kinda nice

u gotta keep in mind

also my bb dont have much chow/zow etc i think

[faint wigeon]

got all w1 to w3 mob chow

might have to do for w4 next

[errant hound]

i just unlocked mushroom grotto how does it work?

[fickle lake]

[errant hound]

i think i have 0 of that

how does this work?

[faint wigeon]

you kill them, once you kill number you can challenge the “boss” mushroom and once you kill it you get next layer of cavern

[faint wigeon]

also DK ES respawn mechanic doesn’t work

[errant hound]

i need to afk there?

[faint wigeon]

bubo slightly but not enough mob so bad

[errant hound]

yes it doesnt

so bubo best to use there?

[fickle lake]

idk how many enemies there are in this game, i only got 67

[faint wigeon]

SB is the way for mushroom grotto, plunder farm kill + respawn mechanic kinda

[faint wigeon]

also the mushroom sometimes drop dragon statue that boost statue bonus

[faint wigeon]

can afk but most would active (afk) with SB for plunder farm

[fickle lake]

where do u check zoe and chow

[errant hound]

that area barely has 10 mobs

[errant hound]

i have 0 super chow

[faint wigeon]

IE has it idk if IT has

[fickle lake]

yeh where for IT

[errant hound]

misc apocalypse

[faint wigeon]

I don’t know if there’s one in IT to begin with

[fickle lake]

ok thx

[errant hound]

sb isnt doing any better

[fickle lake]

what are the double?

[errant hound]

finally

[fickle lake]

@faint wigeon why is it showing 0 and the other 1 mil?

[faint wigeon]

wait i’m dumb forgot super chow were the 100Mil one, I have none

[faint wigeon]

there are some map where there’s one of those mob alone

like for example there’s a nutto in the map of the TD of the root in w1

[fickle lake]

do i need to do those as well or optional? Cause my bb is horrible for kps

[faint wigeon]

it’s you’re really batshit insane yeah but only do that when you’re really end game bc like I said there’s only one mob or so so you gotta have high MK for it to count multiple times

but I recommend you don’t do them

for your safety and sanity

[fickle lake]

i can time candy if i want to… but uh yeh

[faint wigeon]

exactly x)

[fickle lake]

i caved.

[faint wigeon]

I know there’s also a hidden invisible gmush at king doot arena

[errant hound]

king doot

[fickle lake]

[faint wigeon]

yeah fk auto correct on new phone doesn’t know idleon words

[fickle lake]

all that for 14% more meal cooking

[faint wigeon]

I’d take any gain for cooking

[fickle lake]

my candy reserves are still fine though, been doing a ton of giant monster kills

[fickle lake]

how do i unlock the last 2 maps for breeding?

is it level locked or area locked?

[faint wigeon]

is your last the the lullaby one?

[fickle lake]

its stuck at bamboo

[faint wigeon]

oh ok

so in w6 you remember the locked portal? well each locked portal, once unlocked give you access to a new territory battle

so that means gotta push w6 if you want all meal

[fickle lake]

uh… about that im here.

[errant hound]

im also there

[fickle lake]

yeh surprisingly my account even though horribly behind on every skill is able to push that far with money…

5 months of progress and mid map of w6

i can definitely push further if it wasnt for work, bubo kps is stupid high

and i recently got my bubo to hit multikill on w6 enemies

[errant hound]

what fr?

whats ur bubo dmg

[fickle lake]

so literally next map ok

[faint wigeon]

I think i’m two map behind but it’s been ages since I’ve pushed, I could probably catch up to the next lock

[fickle lake]

idk but its strong

[errant hound]

ye strong 1.4T dmg

[fickle lake]

shouldnt be that bad

[faint wigeon]

yeah gotta have 5 char at leek

[errant hound]

my highest dmg is DK with card he gets around 220M

[fickle lake]

[faint wigeon]

oof

[errant hound]

get him troll/divine gear

and opal rings

[oblique jasper]

Do you have divine gear Keith

[fickle lake]

soon (prolly gunna procrastinate during weekends and sleep after work)

[errant hound]

on 1 char yes

[oblique jasper]

Do 10

[faint wigeon]

if you’re afk there I’d say switch to your staff for the slightly better stat for afk gains

[errant hound]

i have w5 best gear possible on dk

10 i cant i dont have that much nullo

[fickle lake]

yeh ik, but my bubo averages 1 mil kills per 30 mins in that map

[faint wigeon]

nah better being like waffle and have one set switching between all char

[oblique jasper]

That’s so tedious. I waited way longer than optimal to make 10 sets all at once with the singular purpose of avoiding that

[errant hound]

u r lazy

xD when u need to do u should

[fickle lake]

especially since i found out that putting chemical warfare on the last slot makes my bubo gases 100% uptime

[errant hound]

else its okay and always good to have seperate

[faint wigeon]

how many again is it of void salts for one troll set?

[errant hound]

6k smthn

idk i forgot

[oblique jasper]

No I’m gonna do the same thing for godshard armor

[errant hound]

actually its 9150

@faint wigeon

[fickle lake]

ok imma go back to work now, @faint wigeon ping me when you roast my account to oblivion

[oblique jasper]

@faint wigeon

[faint wigeon]

hmm I can do two other set then

[faint wigeon]

wassup mista

[errant hound]

i cant do even 1 set more

[oblique jasper]

I dunno everyone else was pinging you so I did too

[faint wigeon]

alright then have a great day
@faint wigeon

[faint wigeon]

when gstack of souls of w3 or lower

[oblique jasper]

It feels weird having 100k nullo in my storage and nothing to do with it. So used to being nullo locked

[errant hound]

idk i can prolly i just spend alot

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/beggar-mendiant-emoji-meme-gif-14766354842854086359

[oblique jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/warriors-curry-salty-salt-bae-gif-9632449

I need a better gif site discord sucks

[errant hound]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=NebulaKnight what should i do rn?

[round drift]

Should I keep looking for more improvement methods or have I got them all already?

[oblique jasper]

Got them already

[round drift]

oops

Also what is the benefit of renewing the bell?

[faint wigeon]

6th is “?” I’ll let you guess what the 7th improvement is

[round drift]

I thought it was just a bucket material I havn't unlocked yet

[errant hound]

idk,

[faint wigeon]

When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can see the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.

[errant hound]

ima do gemfarm after this

it says bad things mostly

and main imp things it doesnt tell

[faint wigeon]

also yeah there will be schematics that gives drop and and another for class exp for each colony you did

[errant hound]

oo cool

ima reset opals rn and put in engineer he sucks rn

explorer lv 9 is fine for the timebeing 10 will take long time

see like 10-11d

[faint wigeon]

I’d get all measurement bonus first

[oblique jasper]

I’m at 11

[errant hound]

my measurer is lv 6

[oblique jasper]

Is 51 all the opals you have?

[errant hound]

yep.

[faint wigeon]

welp nexts measurer is always good like more harp string exp and harp note gain

[oblique jasper]

You’re definitely slacking in one of your cavern. Should be higher