#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Does Bravery have less of a chance to give you Opals the more Opals you get? Or is it a consistent easy source of Opals? (If you choose that bonus)
Also I've read both the guide thread on Caverns here, and the wiki, and I'm still unsure what this does
So I'm guessing each letter can give two things. The right most column is a bonus which scales with that letter's level. The strum effect is a separate thing that happens every time you strum a string of that letter when it's at 100%?
So it strumming C one of the only ways to get these? Later on when I get more note types, do I have to pick between which ones I'm trying to get?
exactly, after u unlock 2nd note u can decide which note you are tuned to, so which one u get from C and later on the center one for F
about this, I don't really know, but the more I do bravery the fewer opals I get (even though I tend to pick opal chance). So I assume opal chance decreases each time u get one
Correct
should i put all my chars to afk untill i get 300 hrs in first afk place in the hole?
Its a confirmed thing that subsequent opals are harder to get?
Idk if it's a good idea but that's what I'm doing 🤷♂️ You can also active 1 of them if you like. Or switch which ones is the active, just try to switch close to around whole number hours so there's no wasted minutes
Yeh can't remember if it's straight up 0.5x chances after every opal, but it's tied to how many you've gotten from that source for sure
the amount of minutes ive wasted cuz i kept forgetting stuff in my squire storage chest that was there
Not including things like "The Bell" with reseting Ring Bell, or "The Lamp" with resetting conjurer points and opals, is there any mechanic in the cavern that like, completely prestige-resets everything? Or most things?
Like is that a thing I should plan for / know about?
300 hrs gives 5 re-throws, they might be useful to not lose due to low rolls
but I don't know if it is worth to put all chars in there, most of them for sure
if i put 5 of em there it will take 36hrs
and then still maestro doin his thang, es and squire pushing, while bubo in lab
my gaming is still bugged after recent patch. plants are not evolving past stage 1. how do i fix that?
tried to turn on/off kitsune, re-install game, veryify files on steam, but not fixed yet
Use chemical plants and cactus plants 😅
Waiting is genuinely the worst idea to progress gaming, because you can get more progress doing it active for 15 seconds than waiting for 24 hours
Edit: The Log and claiming afk gains on chars would also progress gaming 
Edit 2: You can fix this bug by getting more speed btw
When you waste 3 hours afking at the Well on a character 
what should i prioritize on Justice? gold or pop? and at what pop should i be looking to reach at
Some gold and lots of pop seems to be the meta.
Pop gives you higher chance for gratefulbringers and having some gold reserve helps a lot, but it doesn't seem to be nearly as important
what pop should i be looking at? i reach 277 at one point but i lose cause of lack of coins
My goal is 30 pop asap and then hover around 100+ at case 50+
And coins you want to have enough to accept at least 1 case. Something that can give you more coins, grumblo for a chance of health, etc
@teal lynx got today
Is there some specific condition for the rare materials... i dont seem to get any from the first island
RNG
is there an easy way to do the "barley lost" achievement
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message - Barley lost strat. Use the laser pet
awesome, thanks, i feel i jump around the 4/5/6 channels a lot, i figured id be best off asking in w4 given thats the breedin world, but im at world 6, though honestly i seem to get the best answers from w5 chat so still use this a lot XD
yall are great
that shovel is deep in the tree so im not gettin that for a while XD still only at this stage
Barley lost will likely happen naturally before you unlock shovel dw
i havent been sending arena runs really cus im not close to a new milestone
i might be close with the next zone unlock so maybe ill see how that fares
do we have a statue farming chart or smth?
i'm gonna leave for a few days and i'd like to leave my dk active farming onyxes
whats the fastest way to get 100k statues for non dk characters?
thanks
Same as with DK. Active farm.
candy on dreadlo or godshard
does that apply to es?
and also do i run card drop rate when hitting a chopping node or just skilling afk gains and drop rate
i think its easier if you go with a warrior class
The 100k statue quest though…
im putting off grinding more power statues at the time being
cause i got 20k power statues on my es
i mean do you only have a dk?
oh i understood, sorry
well, try it yourself and see how many statues you drop
if it's doable in terms of time candy, do it
4 every 3 mins ig
idk if its better for me to go for oak logs or afk at a better chopping node
209 hmm
how exactly do star sign bonuses work? if i have 20% sailing speed or 15% artifact find chance on multiple characters, does it stack?
It does not. Star signs are only active on the character you're active on.
Candy mines
even for es?
Yes
ok thx
do i go for copper or the highest rank i can go?
ok yeh its godshard
how do i get the luckier lad recipe?
From equinox.
If my Bubo has the Arctic divine but isn't uploaded into the lab, but is to the right right of a character in the lab, will that character still benefit from the Bubo's "Green Tube" talent which gives characters to the left more experience? Or does the Bubo need to be uploaded into the lab, not just Arcticed into it?
Tube talents don't care if you're uploaded or not
OH sweet
so is there a point to reset ur bell when theres only 4 options, and resetting it doesnt do anything but take everything back to lvl 1
There are schematics which give each Ring a chance to give +2 or +3 instead of always +1
On average with both schematics purchased, you get +1.88 per Ring. Renewing lets you start over to cash in on that from the first Ring
yeah i have those schems, and resetting more than once after u get those feels worthless and a set back
to give you a scenario after unlocking schematic where you might reset again: if you are close to a whole number wish/day breakpoint, and your bell rng screwed you over with very low levels -- it would be perfect to reset for higher wish levels to guarantee the extra wish/day
there aren't many situations where you'd reset again after doing it 1x once you've unlocked the 2nd schematic, but they do exist
so as i said, worthless and set back 9/10 times after first reset
deeming it worthless is improper. it has its purposes. no one is tellign you to constantly reset it
worthless in 9/10 situations. got it.
@shell dust re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
You need to clarify a few things in your bug post. Just because you have Doot doesn't mean you activate its benefits while on a particular character - the active character must have divinity level 2. Please confirm those characters are the appropriate divinity levels. If they aren't, you are easily deactivating lab nodes which is causing your refinery to slow down.
@carmine marsh re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
Your report is being deleted because it is a known bug report and you are improperly adding another post instead of simply reacting to an existing report (see rules #bug-reports-🐛 message). There are multiple existing reports of this already to which you can react to. #bug-reports-🐛 message #bug-reports-🐛 message #bug-reports-🐛 message
Best way of beating nightmare kruk with Vman? Don't seem to have the damage, mayube gear related?
Get more damage 
Seems my vman lags behind the rest in terms of damage
It will always be like that
Old rule of thumb was 5% of your other character damage. Might be worse in w6 now
I'll improve his gear first and see how I get on, missing slug recipe which is blocking wep upgrade currently
The Punch talents in particular are huge sources of damage that don't show up on the character sheet damage range. Make sure those are maxed
does divinity level affect the gods minor link bonus?
You can also check Skillage Damage to see what your lowest w1-w3 skill is and see if you can level that up for some more damage too
ohh i see ty ty
Thank you, appreciate the knowledge
What's the common setup for Harp in the hole? (Assuming all note types are unlocked)
the hole guide has some suggestions
finally got some of this from bravery, I always messed up my last sword bonus and had to bail early. Got it on fight 37
I'm looking at it currently, I seem to not have access to the channel the guide is posted in
I have divinity level 29-30 on all characters.
I also linked the char to Arctis (because it not working with doot seemed to be a known bug, with this as the solution)
just wanted to verify as that's a common problem/error folks run into
I haven't heard of it not working unless your character is at like peak maximum connection range, then it sometimes doesn't work until you actually visit the Lab. That would be good for the rest of the session after that though
Feel like I'd need to see a video of it to really guess further though
hampter farming with ES or should I keep progressing w5 onyx with DK
Bubo cc
Can I report a bug that closes my
Game
Is there a max timer on harp power% ? And does it change as you improve harp power rate?
I noticed mine was stuck at 65000% power and not increasing when i showed up at it.
no ?
i'm not sure, that's somebody elses picture but doesn't seem that way
do my ES divinity talents stack?
For XP, no
No talents stack, period. Highest leveled talent wins
scoli, your website keeps bullying me into doing things I don't like, like resampling, it keeps making fun of my progress...
so thanks!
I never intended AR to bully, but I'm glad it helps one way or another
Is fire what determines chance of new recipe?
Fire is the speed of new recipes, Luck is the chance of getting new vs old
Ahh okay
So if I'm cooking something and that bar fills up, what benefit do I get from leaving it cooking for longer?
The chance of new recipe goes up, but the bar takes longer to fill each time. Usually you just want to claim after the first round
Ah okay
I like this one
its defo one of the best ones
Yeah free damage and eff
ive never really done random events, is it best to do em in a party or solo
is this bonus supposed to get this high? if yes, how high does it go, if no, ...for funsies???
the only way to increase random event drops is by being in party (up to 10). its why you'll see people trying to wait around for them. some other folks have permanent 10 man groups so that they can utilize the party for random events even if you do them solo (the bonus for 10 person still applies)
with each of the rarity increases, the %/day increases - but spaghetti code also makes the # days the bonus stack also increases. so at sovereign, you are able to stack up to 160 days for a cap of 9x
perfect. ok thats kinda like.. what i thought might be happening. it was definitely weird going above 80 days. but that is just the knowledge i neeeded to know thank you
New pfp 
Very confusing 

The boss dose no dmg but the moles heal him so you have to kill the moles before thay get to him to kill him
But they are so tanky
How tf do ppl speedrun world with that ??
By getting 35M sheet dmg
fastest way to farm 6000 keys for nightmare troll?
The hammers
for troll? ES farm on Stilted Seekers, only thing that's repeatable for that amount
My b
so how early is considered comically early to get to world 5
at this point? hard to tell. 💳 carries hard
oh, nah, that's pretty normal
ok cool, definately need to work on a lot before i do anything here though, anything i should do here to help progress earlier stuff?
Check out the third 📌 for a bunch of info. Has a link to a Div guide and some backtracking info, as well. Some of it may not be necessary right away, but some general account stuff to work towards
alright thanks
any way to complete the "nope" task
other than mman 6th, seems like your good
the what task?
what does it say?
"NOPE: you have done enough daily stuff already. go do something else"
There you go. 
k thought there was some way to complete it, guess my ocd isnt being satisfied today
W6 has the same task.
whats the best strategy to unlock the last plant in gaming?
Try to research it every time you clear your garden, eventually you'll get it
Don't bother accumulating DNA first, the odds have severe diminishing returns
Cool, thanks!
Anyone got a strat to get fast high lvl skills so i can get the best skilling gear on all slots? Just best skilling build and candy my way there or are something else better?
V man left hand talent and cards that’s bout it
So i just use candy on my DK to get there?
Yea but it’s not that worth spending ur candy on that
Yeah idk how much candy it will take to get lvl 90 fishing or 95 catching on DK
Yeah probably not now i wanna do that just to get 3 items that in total gives 30% drop chance
Seems like the best option
do people not upgrade from kruk to marble because of the droprate or is marble just better overall
kruk has DR, respawn, and damage, much better for any type of fighting. Marble is typically only used for sampling due to the minor boost you'll get from the all stat%
so before you can upgrade to godshard stick with Kruk? ty ty
I thought I should catch up on my skills, especially on ES that pushed in w5.. went from 40 chopping to 53 in a matter of minutes in equinox 
gotta love alchemy for everything it does + lab
how do i get this? ive gotten many chests from the island but never any notes
probably from Harp in Hole
is my guess, not sure tho
then probably from one of the islands I havent discovered yet
yeah I doubt Harp notes are global resources
It's from island 14
it has notes all over it as well 
Hoping I can get some help. Trying to farm up divinity on 6/9 characters, push with DK, level Vman, and farm 1/9 in cave right now. I'm maxing at 20m damage on DK trying to kill world 5 but can't break through which is why I'm farming damage cards. Any recs on changing printer or focusing attention anywhere to help push to world 6? https://1ntervals.idleonefficiency.com
Or are you lacking accuracy or survivability
break through the damage needed past the healing
Healing?
on the boss, sorry
Aaahh
Yeah somewhere they have the amount of dmg you need
It’s easier on ES but should be 100% doable on DK
I mean just random ideas you could work on
Equipment, owl/roo, cards, divinity levels (might boost dmg), I think hole has some dmg bonuses, TALENTS
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
What do i focus on in the gaming tab?
whenever you can buy an import else just upgrade 1 and 2
Everytime 3 gets affordable buy that one too
dw about collecting those genes for new plants just roll it whenever you feel like it
Hey should I be worried about triggering the slab bug with voidwalker?
Like can I get banned even if I do it accidentally?
Are the w3 and w4 bosses a daily spawn (like Dr. BigPoop from w1)?
W3-6 minibosses are on a different schedule, pinned in w3 chat
oh.. that's what that meant.. ._. Thank you. So literally just kill them once a week?
A short story:
at least when you respawn its on the same map instead of town
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
youre an idleon pro I can see it
You sound like a weirdo trying to recruit for his sleezy Idleon e-sports team.
"You're a pro! You're gonna go places, kid. I can see it! Sign here"
Caught
any tips on trying to get this done with vw ?
@harsh kiln re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
You are improperly treating the bonus as if it is multiplicative when it isn't. Corndag's gaming sheet already incorporates the engineering schematic properly - which you can reference here for more information https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=64199739#gid=64199739.
more damage, and enjoy running back and forth manually killing moles for a long time
200 crit chance
that's nightmare mirai.
those numbers are for normal mode
rofl i thought it was bad on bb but this is worse
check pinned messages for strat from trickz
i just wanna get this done
ty
yea vman sucks for it. if you can go without it for a bit, just focus on damage for a bit, and eventually the fight is easy
If your dmg is not ~100B+, I wouldn't recommend doing it yet
Its doable at your dmg... just be prepared for a long fight
all of which you need to do actively
gotcha, as long as it's possible i'll try it out
just read the pin and see the strategy
its pretty much wave management until void radius is off cd then you can whale on boss for a few seconds before you go back to wave management
why the more dmg you have, the faster it'll be... but for the masochistic folks who must get it done asap - the strat is there
Not my fault all Kruk modes aren't included in the graphic. Hmph.
This is why Nintendo Power will never hire you to write their magazine guides.
rip nintendo power
switched over some stuff we try again with more damage
oh jesus
you might do it in 2-3 void radius with that dmg
i think ace said he did it w/o wave management at that dmg level
i didn't realize the damage potions made that big of a difference, i rarely use them
tbf they just got buffed last patch, they were pretty terrible before post w2
@hidden steeple re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
Swap which character you use to display in guild - this will help game know to recheck your values again.
i honestly have no idea what my damage was when I did it. wish i had taken a screenshot
No
no talents stack, just highest level
no account wide talent stacks - only highest is utilized
Okay good to know
ur a legend it worked, tyvm
i edged ace out just barely
not on my screen 
oh, apparently I was in the 200b range for vman
lul, the gains in a month, apparently
finally got back to 23 snail
did you seriously do it naked?
no, that was showing someone that gear wasn't that important for damage 
ace just casually flexing on folks, stretch yeah i did NM w/o gear. git gud
i mean, if you are struggling to get vman dmg to try to get NM down - weapon upgrade is one of the quicker ways to do it. just will get blueballed by suggmas
rip me taking a cooking speed bonus on accident just because I saw a 2
cook more chili peppers for lvl 80 bonus
, how else you gonna get e141 of them?
i'm sure by the time i hit 80 breeding and have enough dna for it i'll have the peppers 🙃
just need like 1.2M of them suckers too 

ty guys that wasn't as bad as i thought
What is the best armor for world 5 starters
amarok or dementia are fine
how do you get coloured bits?
oh shit. thanks
whens it worth getting royal sampler past level 11, anytime?
up to you, 30% is normally enough to hit the 90% cap for most people
Yeah when I equipped royal sampler i already had 60-66%
Is this a good load out for world 5
rings could be better, but is what it is
Welcome in
check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements
if you're committed to BB afk pushing, the afk% silver stopwatches would probably be best
other options are the dungeon tenacity rings for a minor damage increase or ideally the dungeon emperor opal, but those are out of reach for most people early on
once you get to the boss, the W1 boss damage rings from the shop would probably be better due to the recent buff to them
amarok doesn't drop a ring 
the boss damage ones are just from the w1 town vendor
I know I messed up
I’m just entering world 5 so what would be good armour just so I don’t get one tapped against the harder enemies
Finally!
!gear amarok with w5 stones or dementia should be fine
If you're having issues, make sure you go back to owl/roo, alch, stamps, etc
Should get chizoar helm and chest if possible, makes w5 so much easier
Chizoar gear isn't too bad to craft if your refinery isnt cooked
How does Nobisect's scaled skill efficiency work?
YEAHHHH DIV JAIL IS OVER
back to lab jail
it works as a pseudo-catchup mechanic. the lower your level, the more it'll give you. its nothing anything crazy and quickly outshadowed once you get enough levels which is done fairly quickly
Is it based on the highest level you had on that skill across characters?
should be based on whichever skill you're working on
the visual in town is most likely based on mining level
or could be wrong, idk if anyone cared to figure it out
I see
Now that I have goat god unlocked, should I have all characters equip mantra until I unlock zen?
Mantra is good if you have 9-10 characters on altar
I see, thanks
Also make sure to check when the hour rounds off
When you have low XP per hour and you check at 55 minutes you lose the xp for the hour
Is this even possible too work on
both w5 and w6 don't have any daily tasks
WHAAA
How do people gridn the 20k statues needed for onyx statue crafting?
high dr and crystal spawn chance on dk
This is what they be having i guess and the stamp
cards and their doublers make a huge difference
You're too early to do onyx statues. You can do the 17 unique statues quest then afterwards leave the questline for now
I WAITED way to long
you'll want to wait until 10x DR and 1% crystal chance + choc chip at least
ok
why is the w5 constellation for wurms so annoying 😭 i killed 200 in 26 seconds and it still doesnt count
Wooo
0.1% Gains only
you have to go in the map fresh? try gem shop or tp
ive used 10 tps by now
also consider that multikill doesn't afect it
portal mobs don't count either
did you click the constellation after doing it
maybe you have to wait until the 100 sec are up
because some text for Tome pops up iirc
Just get gud 
u lvl 5 yet?
No 🧑🌾
thats what i thought
What exactly are you having trouble with 👨⚕️
i no longer require assistance, thank you very much
I need like 40 more xp what do you need help with
mic up fr
Cant get xp over mic how can I assist you in this text channel
well im trying to get ie auto review to early w6 rn
I have now leveled up your assistance is not needed
gotta onyx 6 click 1 bubble once get 11 more lvls on prayers
very low effort
aside from onyx
and a lot of vials
man, tier 20 alchemy bubbles in autoreview is going to take a while...
is there something weird with this constellation? I even had the tome pop up and say new record 200 kills in 40 seconds but the constellation didn't pop
wait out the full 100s
Hey , when harp start collecting notes ? I'm at 105% and still nothing
heh , make sense , thx it worked
1 more question , when choosing gods from bonuses in conjurer , which you recommend ? Harriep for x6 print and 2nd ?
My favorite Skill Goal is I need keep increase it Sailing Speed into 100.000.000m
ok , thx , atm everyone is linked to goharut , and as a bonuses harriep and and mantis looking one
Who I can make all sailing captains to 2 hours
Yes , trying to unlock on all my characters at least lvl 25
thx , ik it will take a while 😛
> How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake
> How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.
does the 30% afk gains from the first god apply to divinity itself?
ty
What does Lab2100 mean?
Oh damn, even my total class lv is only 1600
is okay
if you progress more in the cavern
you will get more lab exp bonuses
than what we had before doing the 2100 lv grind
does cloud discovery rate only scale with ship speed and the captain cloud discovery stat or also with the loot value as some kind of "amount" multiplier?
i dont really know what you mean but just dont take cloud discovery rate
it basically is instead of +10 you get +20 discover when your ship return
Cloud discovery rate is its own thing, doesn't scale with stuff.
so just take speed to unlock island
^
Ok, so if i have ships with very high speed but low loot i can basically put a cloud captain on there and let them unlock clouds for me
ok
you will never have a ship with high speed
the only time it will get actually speed is from the captain it self
ah i c, its that limiting =/ ?
you just dont want any cloud captain at all
ok, ty ❤️
different between speed and no speed from captain
Clouds are less of an issue than you might think. As long as you have the speed to do 2 hour trips, it's a matter of hours, maybe a day or two at most.
ah ok
Which of these are a bigger priority to save up for first?
Do you need the next note?
the onyl time you take cloud captain is when is endercaptain
second one
more string = more note gain
k, makes sense
pain
ouff xD
You already finished sailing ho. Don't yap until eclipse artifacts get added.
Is there any order I should be claiming div xp on
Not really.
just got bunny and i am going ot be here for months 🥲
you mad ?
are you putting every char in divinity ?
Yeeep
I'm just sitting on the lantern island so not really. Hardly any managing left to do.
The boats that don't reach 100M are farming mats on baby islands to get them up to speed.
Could someone tag the weekly boss channel, mine has disappeared from my channel list
!weeklyboss
Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.
Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.
yo guys how shoud i farm gloomie mushrooms
Slab question: Is there any way to obtain the dungeon weapons from the classes i didnt play for the slab after upgrading them through the dungeon shop?
yes
just play on that class, it automatically fill in
wow are you sure? did lava tweak the slab mechanic?
becaus i have upgraded the waepons past the weapon tiert i screenshotted
and if you can solo the w1 dungeon with any class
just wait until last 10 seconds and spam weapon buy
ive only just learnt that you dont use chemical warfare when doing cc 
i need to watch more guides cause i didnt even know u run fistcuffs instead of wand
and i had the lab 5x capacity and 30% less cooking time the entire time
Yeh thats the order
is justice 10000 better or is bravery 5000 better
I dont remember new chars starts with 0 drop rate and 0 exp multi
I guess it doesn't shows other bonuses...
Imagine killling 1 gmush and leveling to 10 or similar, new characters grows so fast that many weapons and gear becomes useless since you level so fast
almost 1k on wurms 
generally 1st dupe is best as DK due to construction
neither. bravery 10k or justice 24k are the next real good bonuses based on your question
What are all the ways to increase money gains besides gmush farming?
Hello, i just hit w5, where can i find build for the characters? the site i usually use stops at 2nd class :C
real
you won't like this answer. but gmush accounts for the vast bulk of money %. if you want all the other sources, https://idleoninsight.com/?search=(money|coins|cash)
Search every bonus in Idleon!
I don't dislike the answer ~ makes farming money gains easy
However.. is there a cap to gmush?
thanks, love ya ❤️
also any tips for worship? i jsut hit w5 but still not w4 anvil cuz of tundra souls
a lot of getting souls early on is a) waiting for better tower levels through construction for better max wave, b) finally unlocking void (which will require nullo salt -> which means properly maintaining refinery levels), and c) maxing out your food bonus of soulble gum when you do use charge to get souls
Change style as you level and it'll go up quicker. And check out what boosts divinity points gain
This is the most broke ass, ghetto ass setup you can do for w3 TD but it's more than enough to get you all the frigid souls you need for Void Staff and w4 anvil.
Much easier approach than Fireball strat, but requires you to have decently leveled Boulder and Stormcaller towers.
If you have any question feel free to ask me on discord: abgreyd#0283
i forgot the game has a bg music.
Ikr?
yo guys how shoud i farm gloomie mushrooms
afk
how many kph do you get on avrg on your chars
or active SB
pff around 35k
I'm barely cracking 1M on most characters, I farmed enough to onyx the statues
Either active SB for some colony layers, or afk as many people as you can for statues, but realistically you need 250k+ KPH to reliably get statues at 12-16h claims
yhe so no point to farm for me
still do a couple layers for the opals
but statue farming is unlikely for a while
i got 250-500k kph and would get 120-360 statues per 12 hour claim when i farmed them. took a few days to onyx and then get to level 100
this is pain
thats where i stopped, back to bravery and justice and farming 100k foods and 6 star cards
ahh man thats so bad idk why i got this low kph
I have QQQ dps and only get 1M kph
dont sweat im done with w6, not a late gamer but according to tome top 10%
yhee im not even close bro xD
the scaling is just that harsh
prob this is my high
1t isnt bad at all
yhe this is my bubo
keep up with cooking and alch and your stats will skyrocket
idk im mostly grinding warrior skilling for copper print
I need to resample, should get me about 30B copper print, currently at 2.3B
btw do you guys know which bubble i shoud atom for more print?
depends on your current bubbles, honestly, so many are breakpoint based
about 3x my dks dmg. no dmg cards or star signs on atm tho just dr and crystal
only about 2x if I'm on crystal/DR
can you point out the importat bubbles pls?
when you do farm gloomies you need to double your multikill cards and get asmuch multikill as you can. then DR and afk gains if afk or dmg if active
right now I'm trying to get on more motherload layer, should be able to get there today
basically everything that isn't skill exp. anything with dmg, money, skill efficeny, etc. then you just prioritize what you wanna push next with atoms and printer. it all feeds into eachother. use idleontoolbox to see the % breakpoints, start with 65% then do 80% ect. im currently working on 90% for skills and dmg. it just takes time and what you wanna put into it
I need to figure what note to focus on the harp now, just got got 1000T treble for snail
prob i have the 65% most of my bubbles are higher than 150-200
so i shoud work on 80%
exactly
You won't. I got lucky with a 5% same day I got Bunny. Now I'm halfway through saving up for a 100% Zou.
Is it worth it to use w5 tool upgrade stones on my Vman to give everyone even more luck?
tools are some of your best sources as stat sticks. should always use primary class for primary stat
Regardless of the tool, right?
yes all tools all as primary stat
Also you're new to w6. Use w6 stones. 
When I get there. Only at lustre tools (was hesitant about doing frosty totem so super delayed on crafting).
delgado just means you should be using the w6 stones over w5. on average, it'll always end up more
if you fail a bunch, dont sweat it - its fine since you still have further upgrades
Terribly unfortunate that you're stuck in the pearl hell but after that it's smooth sailing up to godshard tools.
Oh. ._. He used the troll emoji so I genuinely thought he was trolling lol
Troll is just a happy little guy. He would never troll anyone. 
-# i use troll face to say when i'm being sarcastic so it was fine to question it
Always use the highest world stones you can, the only time you do anything other than main stat is if you need the acc of your off stat
is there any other way to get heavy porpol water from alchemy other than...alchemy?
I'm trying to get all my characters those void skulls😣
😞
It's just 5 per skull, you can't be struggling that badly with them.
i get like 13ish per day before they get too expensive
is it worth buying the gem upgrade for double exp for measurer? i got 140k/hr and im at lv9, getting to lv10 takes ages
Did you reset opals?
yeah once i hit lv10 on adventurer
That's like 4 days. It's not that bad.
How many opals into measure?
76
very bad infact
i want those frigid souls fast
why that question like 3 i think
140k/hr at 76 opals? That doesn't sound right. Even I hit like 300k and that was barely anything. You might wanna invest in the measure bonuses and the stuff you get from Bravery Monument.
It was not for you. 
I'm sorry
That is fast, by all means. You can still worship with whatever skulls you have. Even if you upgrade your skulls, you won't save the charge.
i got these
but get charge faster!
my bravery is on +341%
frigid souls are used for effing everything!!
ever picked villager xp at bravery?
😮💨
How's your Majik points?
i jumped from adventurer to measurer so not that great
do i reset and go full on measure bonuses and villager exp?
Unlocked goat on 1% 🥲
So what is the divinity setup now I have goat?
Same but throw everyone in lab with goat instead.
so ig i should reset
What about with pocket divinity / ES
This should be your initial priority.
For Es polytheism u can get like 4 gods linked? Instead of 3 by using the hole?
If so what should i link for the 4th
aight thanks that helped
Also you're at measure lvl 9. There's no more bonuses past here for now and you're not really at the point where you can freely unlock stuff in advance. Reset your opals.
If you have all caverns unlocked (Justice is optional), reset, put all into measure up to lvl 9 (you did this already), reset again, put everything into Engineer (up to lvl 18), reset, put everything into conjurer.
oh my i thought lv10 for measurer is the last upgrade
gonna work towards that then, rn boulder is lvl 2, needs lvl 30 haha
Welp... such is life when you neglect some systems. Gotta play catch up eventually. 
Anyone have a ss of a tower line up to get to like at minimum 50 at most 100 for the td?
Boulders should get you to 80-100 depending on levels but that's like baby strategies.
For 100+ you just use the meta setups. The setups don't change, only your tower levels and TD bonuses.
Talents don't stack
alr thanks
Nice
is the ender captain for sailing bonus of +25% loot and artifact a static 25% to all or is it 25% per level to all?
Static.
my first eclipse 
wtf is your gmush gamer
not that big, only 75b or something. i've just been CCing at samurais the last week or two
yess finally only fought him for 1 hour...
what was your sheet damage like?
can you post your talents and attack bar, too?
or IE/IT and attack bar works, too I guess
strange, don't think it should have taken you an hour 
only focused moles, yet 2-3 reached everytime a giant swarm came
- my mouse died at 18B so got it back to life at 34B real pain...
What is the best island?
Brother you're in w5, how you asking about best island here? Tf did you do for the past 3 worlds? 😭
Trash > Shimmer > Crystal = Seasalt > Rando > Fractal
I believe that is the recommended order.
not fish at all
i mean ive had it for like 2 weeks
I got this on a whim and a 1% LOL
dam lucky
Getting closer to completing 1m death note kills in w3
did you do any hole related content and are you using dmg potions?
hole yes, and theres dmg potions?
THis is a W
All potions got a buff a couple of updates ago
Thats ALL characters
Yeah. It's a huge win for all non-Dooters.
#lootdoot
Ye but only 3 gods:(
ye its really nice, too bad i still only got 2 gods...
I got soemthing to show you 1 sec
my lab/divinity grind is so close to being finished christ its been such a boring grind
Ehh doesnt matter you only want up to 5th god early w5
🙂 rabbit was a 1%
I'm there too. I finally got to the point in the lab where I can connect my characters all the way to the end.
nice, im guaranteed to get next god, just need the goods
Nice man, i literally need like 10th of a lab level on my last char and all console slots unlocked and can finally start doing something else
Thats a good boost of dmg
lab be working HARD
Try getting to lvl 10 divinity
Getting points is alot easier then
ye so is W6, went from 38mil to 50mil by just getting there...
Holy grind LOL
Bro mm is in pain
Farm for onyx on dk with crystal cards and choc chip if you have
I'm getting the Choco Chip the next time it comes around. I didn't have the resources last time. I can start Crystal Farming after that.
only need 185k more 
Crystal mobs drop the most statues
what rss did choco chip need?
Cheese and krakens (maybe) dont know the spices
if you have excess gems I might recommend getting chips from the gem shop since omega motherboard is almost a year away
wish that was the case for w3 💔 💔
you know my acc cant even hit them on my current map
Ye w3 needs ma boi es
I am active farming statues on my bubo though
how much more an hour is DK?
Bad ideaa
Dk is the best
u useing acc prayer, star sign, cards and card pack?
A lot
FUCKING barely
okay im swapping to DK then hes literally just came out lab/divinity prison and was my main pusher
no class is even remotely close to dk in terms of farming statues from crystal mobs
like action bar / talents etc
No
max crystal spawn % and drop rate in cards
Jus choco chip and crystal spawn
just get as much drop rate as you possibly can
I got some hp
That to
sweet swapping over now
If you mean obols go all drop rate obols if you mean cards go all droprate and keep last 2 slots for poop and demon genies they help wjth crystal farming
smol number
yeah I got that sort of part setup im around 9x drop rate though as only got a handful of gigafrog obols
With 2x from lab should i include a 2x or is that auto included
them pinion spurs what im missing, my production is stinky
If I am active farming i should prioritize dmg and not worry about afk gains right?
You have 2x god?
Pretty much yeah i think so
i dont think so i unno which god
Purchase all the anvil points you can and spend them on speed.
div and lab bonuses are included in the afk info screen
Divinity has a god that gives 2x kph and stacks wirh that
Pretty sure he was the mantis
yeah im uising
ye, just bought 500 points for all chars... havent bought any bonus points b4...
Thats pretty small for w6
yes, but by just opening a portal and doing a toutorial 12mil more dmg kinda nice
w6 is where the dmg starts getting really crazy
yup, now the real grind has started
... put all chars in divinity...
In w6 the first thing ima do is probably settle down finish lab and divinity get better smithing with better gears farm my dr finish some of my cooking meals get big cooking speed
Ill be there in like 2 weeks lol
If you have 5th god you can do divinity and lab at the same time
But you only get divinity exp no points
on 2nd god working on getting that damn goat tho
mantis?
That’s backwards you only get points not EXP
the orange one
Yea
thats why they all there, no room for anyone to slack off... except maestro he catching mosquitos
its good
LOL
Mb
you get both 😭
nah working towards 5th one da goat he lets u do divinity and lab at same time by being in lab
but ofc gotta get mantis and rabbit first
Im on that one
i havent rly done dinvinity all too much
what makes dk so strong for statue farming im on the bean slice map like the guide says but it doesnt feel faster than my bubo?
Orb
i did until 2nd one, then put 2 on pushing, 1 in a hole, one fishing rest lab
Crystal mobs?
I mean i am ahead in divinity compared viking
I’m testing it bc I’m jus not in the know then
im already in the shame corner
The fact that there’s only two platforms and a lot of mobs
Isnt 1 platform and alot of mibs beter?
yeah i got a 1in47 crystal spawn chance but unsure how the orb boosts it as it doesnt change anything in the player stats window
Use heal food for the love of god
yeah it sucks tho my dk dont need it
Depends if you have enough talent points to keep two knights up and the mob density
Every 100kills is 1x drop rate
On orb
so im roughly getting an extra 2x drop rate per statue atm
or 2.5 roughly
i only have enough talents for 1 statue up atm tho
its so good because its a multiplier
Just trust the process and let the crystals die
hahah
I have had this man for to long
Not quite 1x DR. It's more you get an extra roll on the drop table
ill leave it running for a bit thanks again 😄
today was good day, unlocked anvil tab 4 and world 6

Now make chizoar gear
A wise man once said everything is small
first need some more of these done so i can get recepie..
Whatchu ass waiting for go ahead
20 min traps on everyone and start farming that
AND I CANT EVEN MAKE THE ARMOR
You dont want full armor anyways
cause it's a trap, just eat food
only make the helmet and maybe chest
i need purple salts
You want helmet and chestplate
hope ur being sarcastic
why?
Why waste of food slot when you could just get better armor
well wouldnt make more sense to make full armor for slab and use the pieces?
because you're never going to scale defense untill you get your bubbles up and food is basically free
its waiting for the inner Zen... should prob soon start working on voidwalker too...
We are talking about chizoar armor
love how you kept up with the brand lol
Oh your gonna have a pain in the ass while farminh for vman
ofc
indeed...
You want 1m kills on every mob for vman quest
From w1-w3
and what about it?
im almost done with w3 and w1 but w2 is neglected
ohh gawd, this is painful. Doing chaotic krunk... with 5billion dmg
Chizoar armor gives damage bonus
why didn't anyone tell me he had 1000 quadrillion life
Ngl with your type of knowledge please shut up
you didn't ask 
the wiki is a great tool
troll better tho 👀
that 15% is so big, very big, very very big
yeah, but if i read the wiki i wouldn't be upset about figuring something out for my self
and that moment would be gone
fair
but you also wont be in a 5b damage with 100q to do
Wow... you really are stupid
yup... vry close...
thanks!
well the good news is, i'm doing enough dmg to kill the molemen before they get their cavitys
No problemo
so i'm making progress...
well i get 121k an hour on green shrooms
youll do fine
think i'll just leave it running int he background for the next 40 hours and see what happens
i'm at like 5% dmg done
On meastro?
no dk farming kill with dk and es are farming then maestro is getting exp in a corner that he aint able to leave
he begging but nope
You wanna push with meastro when you have high damage and vman cuase damn his ass is only good gor pushing when he has multilill bonus
And that damage) =
Push with dk or bubo
getting vm quest but then he will do something i unno probably lab
Why are my buckets now filling correctly for the hole I have 1.4m per bucket and it’s giving me barely and progress
Wdym?
Don’t touch lab until you have goat god
If you are AFK the bucket only fills up once. This is just going to be annoying until you have a massive cap.
Damn This that sucks
if i have mantis god and lab 2x kills thingy do they stack into 3x kills?
Think so
Its more of a problem early, also dont stack one item and you should be good soon ish.
a recipe not being blacked out doesnt necessarily mean i got it as a drop right? (cant check if i have this recipe for obvious reasons)
It’s not supposed to be blacked out but I wold bet you don’t have it saying you only have a diamond skull
which confuses me cause this one is blacked out but thats definitely gotta be a recipe drop
Recipes are gone if you have them.
Lit up just means you found a recipe in tier 4 but not that tier 4 recipe.
ah i guess cus the recipe drop thing is universal, but what recipe it is isnt
gonna be a while before i find out what ones i even have given ive only recently started forging starfire bars
Any1 know how to fix autosort and auto deposit not showingqs an option in my storage
one is not like the others
are these tome related bonuses powerful enough to merit spending some time focusing on tome
if I can get this done tonight I'll have vman
Or is it not really realistic/worth it to "hunt down" more tome points, instead just let them flow in naturally through progression
Have a feeling it will come down to the wire about getting it done tonight, but my active ES is putting in work only really worried about the bloodbones
not worth
thanks
Hunt slab instead of tome
Slab is way stronger
also im so close to kruk dmg 😨 i think vman will push me over
you cant change individual greenstack conversion thresholds can you? cause i dont want my gmush caps to be converted but do want other things
for atom collider
you put atom collider at 1050M and don't touch it
gonna be a while before my oak logs reach that threshold to start getting converted XD
fair enough, ive unlocked the first 4 things but not put any points into them after that
finally unlocked goharut, but cause ive now hit w6 im gonna put everyone in w6 map 1 for a day, then tomorrow they go to lab jail
A day? They should be lvl 300 in like 20 minutes each.
not even close, for reference
Not afk. Active.
they dont even survive active XD my defense is ass cus i only have one good armour set, i guess i should swap it around and take turns active grinding there
You should have enough dmg to kill, not necessarily to survive.
the kills are a bit slow and cus they hit me for 1800 if im just stood in the middle of them i will die whilst healing items are still on cooldown
current stats of my first DK
Don't stay in the middle. Stay on the side. All classes have something that should safely reach, just enough to give you a few kills. If you get a crystal, that's jackpot.
if i get a crystal ill probably have a 2% chance to hit
so a kill gives me 42m xp, currently i need 1548m for a full level
del be crazy to suggest you can double your levels in 20 mins
just do what you're doing
levels only help so much
yeah mostly just doing it so i have more talent points for the passive skilling builds
1171 defense with a void scythe, whats the armor?
i have like 2200 defense with dementia armor
Tf you mean crazy, that's literally the play each time you hit a new world
still sat on amarok, my chizoar/void set is on my ES currently
i think u can make a dementia/void set for your other people no?
!gear
dementia should be easy and will probly give you another 500 defense
27k dementia bars so yeah i could go upgrade that for each person
i think itll be a big difference for not crazy effort
esp with more modern stones in them
yeah definitely will help especially cus the % bonus increase on the boots/legs
and with the w5 stones itll give em all some more accuracy at least
i never upgraded to dementia cus i completely forgot that it was a base set, was thinking i had to go through all the tiers again
i mean i cant kill kruk yet so you're further than me !
and i got dementia on everyone Lol
yeah i had the dementia set for my ES then void, and chizoar helm/caustic scarf with the black opal rings
just everyone else got neglected
still waiting for a scarf to drop 😢
i got 2 just doing the tasks to get the recipe for helm lmao, along with 2 obols
thats wild
absolutely huge yeah
either way, im a lazy git so im still gonna leave everyone overnight for afk gains, currently active ESing clams for pearler shells
focusing on vman for today but ill have kruk down tomorrow
just need to farm some cards and some other dmg bonuses
vman himself has a dmg bonus i believe, so that will help too
gl, i got my vman but ive only done 2 speedruns with it so far, and out of boredom i farmed card drop rate to platinum stars
also the vman damage bonus is only for over level 200 and my es is the only one there, so another reason to grind it
what level is your ES?
oh ok yeah as long as my DK (level 300) gets the dmg bonus thats all i need
my vman is already low enough on talent points that i need to get his level up too
ill also get a lot more dmg from family bonus when i swap my BB off farming deathnote kills and get him bunch of levels
gives both weapon power and % dmg for fam bonus
how often can u do speed runs is it once a day or longer than that
i think its 20 hour cooldown
i vaguely recall it saying something like 72k when i hit the button
At what stage do people start doing onyx statue stuff? ive not gone for a single 20k stack
Choco chip and as close to 10x DR and lower than 1/100 crystal chance is usually a good starting point
ok well im fully prepared for when choco chip comes out, though droprate is only at like 5x
cards and obols are your biggest sources
There's a bunch of other good stuff
ive got 4 of the silver square droprate obols but no shards to try to combine them
I'd suggest using ES to work on cards and Pop obols.
There are 3 Card DR cards, W1 Giga Frogs, W2 Snelbies, W3 Sir Staches
Then you can work on regular DR cards, listed in the doc
While you're farming Giga Frogs you'll probably get some Pop Obols too
yeah ive been esing today to max out card drop rate cards
those 3 card DRs are all platinum now
How long does the idle skilling trophy take to get?
its timegated, the actual task requirements arent that difficult so it doesnt actually take too long, id completed it before playing idleon but ive heard some people say you can basically reach the requirement in the time the timegating takes anyways
dedicated playing you can get it done in around 3 weeks or so but like nemmy mentioned, towards the end - you will be waiting for the CD to claim the reward
if you are just starting, i highly suggest reading the walkthrough on realm on the idle skilling wiki and focusing on that first. it'll help zoom you past a lot of early progression
yeah the realm/afterlife gave insane boost to progression in idle skilling
How exactly does liquid investment work, Should i level the rates or just leave it to keep increasing?
where do we get the Ruby cards?
Can someone help me with the mummy boss? I'm on pizza server 8 and I need a mage and an archer
That's unlocked through rift
Liquidvestment just lets points stack past the max required for that level, still need to spend them to level
Oh so it just stops progress being wasted when you're active farming overnight ~ sweet
Can someone help me with the mummy boss? I'm on pizza server 8 and I need an archer
Level it whenever you can
It converts excess "charge" in to cap/rate upgrades at a higher % each level
For the water cauldrons
If I Renew the Bell in Caverns, will I get refunded the spent rings? Or have to start waiting from scratch?
When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in a bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can view the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.
only 2 more endercaptains to go with my recent daily reset, both are double loot captains, so it will suck to have to swap them for other stats
Once I unlock the last island, I'm safe to replace all of my captains with cloud discover, right?
Yes discover is never that useful. You could also start replacing speed if you want but sailing is kinda over before you need to do that.
What are some of the better places to farm Plunderous kills with SB?
i think citringe is considered the best for just plunderus mobs but lanterns is alright and you need dark lanterns anyway.
Okay, I'll try those out, thanks.
I finally finished my trapping vials, so time to move everyone to max xp and push for 120... gonna take a while
Is it worth it to use Royal Sampler prayer on my main prof chars?
only if you need it to cap sampling
For example, use it on DK but lose construction exp gain..
autoreview will let you know
😦 .. Sadge. I don't use IE or autoreview or anything like that.. In that case, sounds like I should leave this until endgame for capping sampling, yeah?
ok, your sampling rate shows up on your construction skill in your character sheet
key detail, that penalty from the prayer is additive, so in my case if I activated the prayer, I would go from 29.83 to 28.93 basically no change
I obviously don't need the prayer, I've long since capped sampling rate, and the DK's extra doesn't show on the character sheet
Just read it on the wiki. Thank ya. I'm at 47% on my ES without it, now meaning if I wanted to get towards that 90% cap, that's when I'd use the prayer. But for now, since I need exp gains in other parts of the game, it's ill advised.
Hmm.. Aite. I'll keep that in mind.
I did mess up and over leveled the prayer, since I never needed the full +44%
Remind me, does the +1 divine exp apply to even characters who are not on altars?
And there's no way to delevel the prayers?
yes, all characters get xp from the ones in divinity/lab (with appropriate god) but it doesn't work outside of that like tranqi
scoli, if you are around (don't want to tag you) is the max slab attainable known? I know there are a bunch of dungeon weapons unavailable
So what if a character isn't in lab or altar, but has TranQi. Will they benefit from others' Mantra? Or only if they're actively on an altar?
yes, all characters will get that +1 from mantra, but you won't see it in the afk claim anywhere
shouldn't the in game slab tell u?
slab includes those dungeon weapons I mentioned
I'm missing frozen bow IV, actually
I don't know a total, sorry
no worries, thanks!
the one on ie is probably correct
24 dungeon weapons, 4 dungeon armor, 2 dungeon jewelry = 30
2 extra unreleased Caverns resources
6 unreleased stamps
tab 5 talent points
39?
1662 - 39 = 1623 or so
i'm planning to burn all my gems on it if I don't get it on the last day
I've bought 10 rolls 3 times already
I might be able to get enough for one more 10 roll try
You can only buy 10 rolls per day
yes, I mean by the 3rd
Was letting John know they can't wait until the last day and then buy 100 rolls. Doesn't work that way.
oh, yeah, good call
whats the dna unlock formula for gaming? im hard stuck on berri bush unlock and cant go past 11.9% chance apparently
you need to be rolling more often
just roll for it, quantity over quality is usually the best option in this game
at what point should I roll? should I roll just daily or at a certain percentage
Turn on kitsune roxie and roll often
Roll after every Collect All
Each DNA adds less chance than the DNA before it added
The chance from 20 DNA is not 2x higher than 10 DNA.
so its kinda like golden food bonuses
use focus (4 x 1) till u get goat or even better elephant 6th god. then at lab u go mantra all.
but assuming u want ur farmer (dk,es) to lvl get lvl 40 asap an has goat unlocked. let him use vitalic + others on mantra
and if by chance u have 50%+ 2x exp chance refer to ie. let them all use vitalic.
