#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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With Pocket Divinity/Doot, why am I unable to gain Divinity XP/Points when I have Bear and Goat selected?
Bear and Goat do not have any beneficial overlap with respect to Lab/Divinity. Bear simply makes you 'active in the Lab mainframe' it does not make you actually 'connected to' Lab, which is what is required for Goat. Since you are not connected to Lab, the Goat Major Bonus does not trigger and you will not gain Divinity XP/Points from your current stance (excluding Tranqi which does not require active meditation).
TL:DR You need to actually be in Lab to gain Divinity Points, Bear doesn't count.
Note: This isn't to say you would never utilize both Bear and Goat at same time. The trio of Bear/Goat/Snake is the ideal combo for when you are doing resamples.
I search it
lemme try find it
if you need a basic talent guide, you can also use https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml
til the talent spreadsheet had mman/vman on it
On the way to goat. ๐ซก
Personal pin ๐
Stuck on the stupid rabbit creature
anyone here that got to recently world 6, i want to check it out to see what i should improve
I got lucky on a 100% on it earlier, just saved all the way up for it.. like 8.7k or so points
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any way to increase salt production i rushed to world 5? have full dementia, almost tools on all 9 characters.
i just need reference to what i need to beat it
Beat what?
beat the w6 account
kattlekurj boss
30M dmg
max or minimum
max
oh thanks
Oh wait. seriously? Just 30M max dmg? (well 35M DK)
you don't need more to kill the moles
killing kruk is just a waiting thing after being able to kill all moles
Any dmg above 30M just speeds things up. Otherwise it might last 5 or so minutes.
1.4 days from 0 to 5m kills for eldritch is pog, right?
I think I'm at around 40% crit rate on my DK. Is there a recommended crit rate for the fight? (I'm at the Fire Spirit map, so should be fighting the boss tomorrow unless there are more maps in the way)
fire spirit is last map to be able to do the boss
Crit is pretty much useless and you'll end up drowning in it eventually.
The only use for crits is if you're almost killing something but they survive with like a slither of hp and a crit would put you over the threshhold but at that point just go improve your dmg.
need higer version of mega crits
There is something about talent spreadshit guide I don't understand.
For the beginner class, in the skilling focus talent, it's recommended to MAX Sleepin on the job.
BUT when I read the talent, this talent is for FIGHTING, not skilling afk gain rate. Is there a mistake somewhere?
Oh ok thanks, I have this enhancement but it wasn't updated on my talent skill information
What does 250 do?
not much
I see. Dunno if that is good or not
Is there any other way to get drop chance expect box stamp bowman armor or obal I finish those
225 definitely good.
But I'm only at 10x
Cards.
like every bit of skilling exp should be good on vman, but its not that great of a skill imo
Rip there nothing I can do to rise drop chance
huh?
I look at those and 90 percent of those I can't do
Like the skull can't do
Don't know how to get a divine scarf
Like I don't even have it recipe
W5 boss tasks
This
I'll be here for awhile xD
How does the harp work in caverns?
So is the easiest way to get gold for sailing just watching the trading dude and keep trading him what he wants or?
How does the harp work?
Once you have at least 100% Harp power, make sure that 'Adjust Strings' is off, then drag your mouse/finger across strings as if you are playing a harp to make ๐ถ
Ty
what was the point you guys started to work towards atom collider for bubble upgrading?
I love my ES but farming caps is getting annoying 
my w5 progression is starting to slow down a fair bit, at the oranges but its probably gonna be a week before i reach the boss... On an unrelated note, would ES or DK be better for farming pearler shells for starfire axe? my base drop rate is currently only 4.71x
I've switched from DK to ES solely because of bubble mat farming, rare stuff also drops more often(?), it could be just placebo tho
it might be due to the respawn conditions of their stuff, like for dk isnt it you have to clear the whole map to respawn, whereas ES its just kill wormhole mobs?
ive not used my dk much so cant remember its talent off the top of my head
well, yeah, intervention respawns everything if map is empty, ES kills wormhole mobs on top of default mobs yeah
pearler shells being a 1/50k is rough ๐ฆ
i think i should just wait til w6 to go for starfire tools
I'd definitely just use ES, wormhole droprate buff is kinda nice
wormhole drop will only be the common stuff though wont affect the rare drops
oh really? I could be mistaken in that case
yeah wormhole only drops the thing thats on the top left of the monsters table, like green mushrooms the mushroom caps
oh well, then dont mind my previous comment, thanks for correcting me
basically ES is better when farming drop on the main page of the card, DK for stuff in the bags
DK -> Crystal and not bags 
Bullseye statue is in a bag and we use ES for it, since it only drops from the Mob and not by crystals
to unlock atom collider? if you've got a 100-250k oak log sample you're probably fine, that should be enough to get you enough atoms for the first few upgrades
my newly acquired vman now outlevels my ES for chopping so i should resample but i kinda wanted to get the axe upgrade first, 9/20 pearler shells from when i was pushing w4
but again, 1/50k rate... im at 4.71 droprate so its basically 1/10k but still thats rough
yeah already got to that much 
it isnt enough? ๐ญ
so im getting i think roughly 20k portal kills per hour at the oranges map and next map the enemies have almost double the health feelsbad
quick question thats also offtopic: for multitool stamp from Poigu, do I need a combined level of 50 or more in divinity? or on the character I took the quest?
single level 50
sheeeesh
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
for some reason I hate dungeons ๐ญ
yeah im working on what i can with damage as best i can, but im hitting limits, ive maxed out dungeon flurbo weapon power for instance, have the rings from it too, and the goddamn sailing artifact for damage based on build speed doesnt wanna drop
only 1 more day til i can rank up/claim my green salts and get the next mage weapon too, that 6% dmg increase will be nice
Pop obol question: what stats do you want to roll ? +1 mainstat +1 luck + 3% DR? or is there any better possible roll?
alchy/stamps
Think most people do tbh
understandable ๐ญ
skilled dimwit is also pretty good for efficiency boosting 
do a few library checkouts too, I never regretted putting extra points into mage 11-12-13 
Oh yea, i should probably do that
is it possible to get multitool while still progressing in w5, or do ppl usually go for that in w6?
possible, sure, if you're slow
I aint rushing anywhere
I should max out divinity xp for all characters on my active ES, bubo gets insane xp for some reason 
i'd say average time through w5 is probably about a month. not sure how long 50 div takes now, probably longer though
I also wonder if I should just grind divinity points till Purrmep and then swap back to chakra or whichever gives 1xp/hr for everyone
that's my advice, though I haven't done the div grind since mantra xp > points was the recommended method 
yeah, everyone says grind till 40 for Tranqui
but I'm not a doot enjoyer so I gotta think this through 
I'm already getting nice amounts of points due to ashen urn's 200%
if i ever get my alt to w5 i'll try and see how long the 50/purrmep grind is
though then I suppose I should have had two alts to compare to one that focuses on mantra
I have everyone on Focus now, sweet sweet points
might be worth to throw one person on to vitalic to speed up the 50 grind
yeah I'll probably do that when I get to lvl25
oh, not even there yet? man. going for points over xp is wild, idk why the old adviec was xp 
rip me early-mid 2023
I just got goat this morning when I woke up
you can imagine my happiness
everyone is doing lab + divinity now, besides ES
I dont wanna use DK for now, he has been grinding construction for a week now, maybe more 
I just wish w3 worship wasnt so difficult 
the powerspike I'd have with grey gatsby
quick question: if I have 2 DK's with construction talents, they dont stack with eachother, right? only the highest one gets applied
thanks 
How is others cc on worms?
For divinity Iโm supposed to spam the cheap one until the big one switches to 50%+?
i liked to wait for a 100% 
how far should you be before you get atom collider?
if you're in w6 you should have it
No way people are getting Atom collider right as they step Into w6
lol no
you have to remember that alot of players now are rushed to higher worlds and time gated things like con will be far behind
i didn't say right as they step in
Yep that was me lol
You just said w6, which implies as long they are in w6 they should have it

I wonder how horrid my account would be after getting to w6 without Omni carrying me lol
But hitting the cheap one makes the big one have a chance to reset, right? (Mine hasnโt changed in like a dozen clicks)
yes, both sides will re-roll everytime you press either one of them
Hey were do I stand under to get rid of my ES second god? I don't have Omniphau unlocked yet. Got Gohaurt and can't force myself to do Labjail or divintiy jail for a little while longer. Will go back just decided to focus on something else
So I can't change my second god until I get Omniphau?
oh that's what the pushpin meant
it's the top left pedestal
I didn't know what that meant my bad
today you learned 
Yes I did! Thanks!
lots of great information in there
Learned two things!
im about to unlock 3rd god, should i start farming pop obols?
Are you w6?
Got it after I was halfway through the maps in W6
Actually insane ๐ญ
guys, a question, for first bravery cuz I dont have it unlocked yet, it says leave this character for an hour and come back to it -> do I have to leave it there at the statue? or what does it mean
at the statue for 1 uninterrupted hour
ah cool, thanks for your answer!
John answer is the best answer๐
is there a guide for bravery somewhere here on discord? all I know is there are swords that are gonna fly towards the enemy and thats it 
Hole guide in #1084911530417606656
cheers! 
why not just link it #1303761365273415700 
Also in ๐
Because Iโm lazy lol
Ah, I guess you can't quick type it if you weren't able to join
fix your shit discord, smh
I donโt know what quick type is or what Iโm joining, but yeahโฆ. Fix your shit discord smh
just linking to it like you would a channel, #<channel name>
Oh that would be cool
gotta join in on the good shit early 
join in-->never talk-->kicked out 
@bleak gazelle got last night
Have you already reached the 10 bubble cap
I read this as "Stand user" lmfao the Jojo brainrot is getting to me.
Not sure
@bleak gazelle went up today
This is getting crazy i left at 9 am its now 1:51 pm LAVA WTF
is 2 hours the minimum traveling time?
I leave my game up hours to get all 50 and I start at 3:30am Sydney time and I get last one after 8am my time
4 and a half hours sound about right
two is visual minimum. SB family bonus and Corgi shiny pet can reduce it lower, you can check IE/IT for actual value
what class are you doing it on? if you've got bubo with 200+ tenta, should only be about 30 minutes. I've heard from others that ES seems to be best until then
maestro
4.5 hours is about what my Hunter alt does 
I do it on my dk @bleak gazelle
Why tf you doing it on maestro
why not
pick anything with mob respawn 
Every other character is farming something more important
Maestro has no respawn ability and the only thing that matters is killing mobs
Nah man put your bubo/dk/es on it active and youโll have it done so much sooner
Youโll get the 50 drops + you can farm important stuff after anyway
does anyone know when justicemonument bonuses start working (the lap wishes and bonus multi)?
whenever lava decides they will 
D:
only thing we know it wont happen this year since he wants to take a christmas break and start strong into next year
Is there any way in IT to know when it will jump to 2.4?
well, 2.4x should be 48 hours. can't remember if IT dashboard counts how far over you are
I can only see the count up to 20h in dashboard. I guess I should write down somewhere when I do the run
I imagine the 48h start to count when we start the run? Or once we finish
I just recently got gaming to the point it refills every hr is it worth it checking every hr or so?
I have all but one mutation unlocked
then i definitely would. and rolling for it every time you clear the board 
Ok I also got the level where I gain divinity XP while in lab so should I change them to the lab or wait till level 40? Stupid question maybe but still trying to figure it all out
If you've got goat, no reason to stay on div altar since you can progress both at once (unless you're link locked). You'll need plenty of lab levels down the line
I'm assuming you've made decent progress in Hole, too, so here's some pocket setups
How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake
How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.
If it matters I do have doot so I'm linked to all of them
That's what I thought but I was also told to stay on divinity till 40 so that's what I've been doing
The ops are working against you.
Well... It's technically still divinity, even if it's in lab.
Any way to see how many possible evo's you have available for plants?
at the bottom
perfect, thank ya
Also, is there any trick to Log minigame? I've seen people say that at a certain point, it becomes near infinite because you keep getting rerolls of it, but it seems like it barely ever gives me time.
I killed mini bosses in world 6 last night for first time did it on main @bleak gazelle
Log is pure rng. Just spam whatever card you like the most
Then you use a Tier 5 Chem and get the whole cooldown back
And at some point you will not use it, because it's slower than just pressing the harvest all button
I can give you a little example vid 
Give me a second
sure.
A minute of "log cycling" and then a quick 10 second showcase of how fast gaming can get 
do you actually use log or just showcase
Unfortunately not gonna be finishing this in 2024
Actually.... I think those are only 77 hours ๐
inbefore accidental deposit all
I will probably never do any greenstacks if that happens
I was close to doing that once 
I was getting a screenshot for a bug report or for someone that asked something
damn
If only this video didnโt pause every second
Nvm I just had to complain and it fixed itself
Is there any reason to keep cleaning the bell once you have the 6 improvements?
Maybe there could be more but as of yet no
Glad it fixed itself 
killed 20m and still did not get this recipe, what if I dropped it somewhere, I wont get it again or what?
20m is with mk. Only base kills are counted
what is mk?
they only stop dropping once you've used one.
And then it should also not be shown as drop anymore
What is the guidance on what order to buy speed / value on gaming?
I just keep the costs equal๐คทโโ๏ธ
same
Void went up by 3x and dem by 2 kinda crazy
without cards and my mining set soooo yeah
Mine
HOW
@turbid plaza got another sword not long ago
I have doot
Fair
will there be a schematic at camp for total honey bees collected?? dont wanna make the same mistake i did with the vein and break layers while i have this 2x drops on honey bees.
Sup
Hello
Fyr this is mid w6
I wAnT DoOt To
Wait what chest is this lmao
Found it xd
Is this es or dk
dk
Wow you need a lot more accuracy
No. you can see all the current schematics on the wiki if you are curious
Im struggling even with the -5% damage
Not resample most of them in months
kek.did you make an axe before you were leveled for it?
That prayer yea
That's a 1 sucecss axe
Hello bad @stuck river
And here's why I used es
the two es is totally not my weakest chars rn
Yeah 100%
I originally also pushed with a dk, then switched to es somewhere around halfway
My m man is struggling for damage bro is begging FOR DAMAGE
Mman does not need any damage
My vman is legit farming nothing hours rn cuz idk what to do xd
are all your skilling cards 5*ed?
No but I don't wanna do that yet kek
NEEDS DAMAGE
Rest of my arsenal is working on w3 statues, sb on stage 1 of eclipse farming
How's ur dk looking like
This is in w5 zone so lowered
yeh i ended up inding the answer in the holes guide. appreciate it tho!
Hes in town
And here's why I use es
End of conversation
i do have 1 question tho, should i distribute my opals by just gettting 10 into each in order? or should i be keeping Explorer higher than the others orrr??
LOL
I currently go full in whatever I need
Wow um
#1303761365273415700 message has a suggested opal distribution thats pretty good if you need some guidance
u shd equip food
36% accuracy
oh bet tyty ill take a look
With some new cards
Yeah you need food
no your survivabilty is only 12 so when u equpt food it shd be like 900
Food
nice
you should also get that 100% acc
Nice
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
Also fyr when I finished w5
and given the fact that you aren't in MK threshold, might as well utilize fibers of absence
Isn't that a like
70 or 90 w3 td wave thing
What ones am I missing and where to find them?
u can click on it and it will show u
That one 1/200m recipe in question:
wave 21 of w3 TD. not difficult to get at all
now that im out of driver ed hello peoples
hi
bonjour
hola
i got nothing else
sad l still have like 2 more
Well i do now the russian translation of hello but not how to spell it lol
dont we all
true
Konichiwa
How should i get more dmg
good one
Equip speed pots
ni hao
ไฝ ๅฅฝ
I think speed pots depend on 1 shot capabilities
Bowman gets damage from speed pots duh
nice u speak chinese
I do in fact speak chinese yes
They were fucking mana pots LOL
yay l suck at reading chinese tho
l think its cuz your afk gains are the same and no mk
wow
Are any golden foods worth using for pushing or should I just use food and speed pots
they'll generally not be very powerful where you're at
Weapon power and speed pots (maybe xp if you want) and food will likely be the way to go, maybe a stack of all stat or total damage golden food
do excess logs get converted to atoms even if the collider is off
damn nice
kinda just want to leave the thing off if thats the case lol
(so I dont nuke my storage again)
yep, that's why we suggest off and at 1050m 
Back
even if you don't have atom collider as well
lmao
WindowsXP lol
Yeah we have maxed bonuses and cheap requirements u can join
oo yay
I'll dm u link
is there anywhere a td guide for wave 50 of w5 td?
I have an ass Boulder w5 td guide for 50 before
okay found it nvm x)
xd
I think its finally time to start grinding all quests to w4
nice good luck with the tree in w3 he messed up my sleep so badly
i refuse to do the tree ๐
It took me 7 months to actually bother that and all for my drippy sb
when should I start AFKing at the Bravery Monument in the Hole? I candied a character to W5 since I have Doot, and I'm still trying to unlock Goat to finally start progressing Lab
you could put one char afk at bravery while other are in lab/div
ah it unlocks for everyone?
hole is unlocked for everyone from the moment you get to w5
Doot haver. Focus hole bravery till u get atleast 750 afk.
doot 
I mean the Bravery Monument, as in if I AFK with one character it unlocks it for the rest?
Bravery > Divinity?
Long term unlock purrmep. Short term bravery afk.
oh yeah anything you do there is same for all
Yes cause u got doot.
U can pass up divinity.
me when I catch doot owner
Don't I still need to unlock the Gods for Divinity to work?
nope only need your char to be div 2 for ALL gods to be active
Get minimum to make for
Doot work.
Ahh, tysm
So technically I should always park at Lab now and never the Div altar right? If I'm trying to do Div that is
Yes and no. U need to unlock purrmep.
because you have goat from doot, afk at lab will also count as if you're afk at div
But priority = lesser, than us. None dooters 
the poor peasant 
I need to unlock Purrmep for Div Gain during Lab?
My auto correct always F up.
Yep.
Need to link for 2x bonus
I reckon purr is also active with doot tho not the minor link
Sheesh right.
its goat
but just think like that, because you have doot, don't think too much of divinity
Doot havers. 
welp this my end for w5 td
Yes yes, I just want to make sure I can park them in Lab now to start leveling both, since I haven't touched Lab at all yet
But I will unlock Bravery Monument for now first ๐ Ty
Do atleast 750 bravery when u unlock to start pumping up bonuses.
Bubo will be forever lab jailed till cc viable for u.
Can I candy for Monument? And should I?
how does arctis work
i have my es linked to it but its not active in lab
do i have to cloudsave
Ahh right there's lanterns, ty
oh i need the talent LOL
what class should my 8th character be? I have 2 of all and a maestro rn
second DK
then I'd recommend for your 9th and 10th to let them stay as classless and hold that until master class release in case meta change
2nd dk for construction. Next would be 2nd ES if dootless and less div passive hassle, 10th would be SB for catch print or save for master class Incase there a meta shift.
Alr tysm
@oblique jasper them looking ok?
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Its abt time to start using Poisonics
there isnt rlly a right or wrong abt Bravery Bonuses, cuz you always get them daily anyways
Its a matter of prioritizing good bonuses
-Mining Eff
-Bucket Fill Rate
-Xp gain
-Bravery Opal %
*also get all opals when they appear
@pastel kayak
as for time on bravery, I would suggest finishing div/lab grind first
Thanks for all the questions people answer in here it is greatly appreciated, what class to use time candys for lets say red frisbees, gold twine, etc.
*if not, you could put goat on characters while bravery, that should finish your div grind in some time
SB usually
why SB?
Forge progress
@pastel kayak
Oh yeah
all g
is it better for me to rush tab V to save on nullo salts when crafting new capacity bags?
So does the bucket overfill have a cap?
Doesn't look like it
the first schematic caps at 14 expansions
Does this benefit any W5 skill?
Looking good
@bleak gazelle sent you photos of some of my Christmas gifts
Can someone explain what the CDE notes are, do they do anything?
If you press the 'Adjust Strings' toggle then click on the letters, it'll tell you what they do 
Otherwise check here #1303761365273415700 or in the ๐
?wiki Caverns or here
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Caverns or here
?wiki Cavern rather...one day we'll get better search
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cavern rather...one day we'll get better search
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@oblique jasper want to see some of my Christmas gifts got from family?
?wiki on deez nutz
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/on deez nutz
Silly @stuck river
sadly yeh
Anyone got any advice for increasing my Gaming bit gain? With the rock on I have a growth cycle of 6.2 minutes, and each plant gives a base value of 774 green bits (with rock on). I have 422M Green Bits and getting the amount needed for the snail is going to take forever at this rate
Sailing artifacts is probably what your missing
Probably. I'm farming the mushroom rare treasures for the sashe sidestamp quest. Which islands and artifacts help with bitgain?
island 8 and 10
thanks
I got today
Get equinox nugget, and get gaming upgrades from hole
Also turn off the rock it's crap at your bit level I think
Gaming upgrades can be gotten from the Bravery monument and nowhere else in the hole right? I haven't gotten to Justioce yet.
Be smart with your plant picking, I picked everything except for mushrooms and cactus, let those grow
And chems don't just harvest all
Mushrooms and berries give most bit gain. The pine tree can be good but very inconsistent. So let those grow to lvl4 before picking and pick other plants asap
Will do, thanks
do we just leave opals on the explorer after maxing everyone else or should the conjurer keep stacking levels or something else?
You can start future proofing mfs. Get explorer to 13-15, get engie to 20-23, measure maybe to 13-15, stuff like that. Conjo if nothing else.
i c
imma start with the explorer then, thanks!
wait how do i get green bits??
They are like different tiers so when you get to 999q white then you go to 1 green
oh god. alright tyty
I believe itโs white green red purple
and then blue
Have people reached blue with the new hole bonus
oh my god. i ust realized the imports arent lined up in order. so much time wasted lmaoo. thanks tho guys
You go in order of price. 
welp. i just went all the way to 611B with only the sprinkler unlocked loool
no nothin. gotta be hall of fame status after that lmaooo
WAT
holy sht how tf
Oof
Rawdogging gaming
ong ๐
Fr how is it even possible to get up to billions. How long ago did you unlock gaming?
So you unlocked sprinkler and then snail?
oh snail. but i didnt realize it was 611 GREEN billion till ust now
so no snail. but i have shovel and squirrel now so hopefully snail soon lol
get that screen asap and get on achievment pic chat
Conch, Log, Kitsune
love this game but why put imports out of chronilogical order ๐ญ
Snail is your last unlock.
oh then whatever is to the right of sprinker i mean
That is snail.
anywaayyyss. thanks id never have realized unless yall said something
but i thought its white then green??
why would it be my last unloick??
You never clicked another box?
Not even the third and saw the purple bit requirement 
For 18 months
nope, i just didnt think about it tbh. cant blame the game at that point.
Superbits also aren't in price order btw.
There is nothing in it
It does. It's very strong.
shushhh
darn it lava...he strikes again
Very strong
lmaooooo
Hidden OP
it includes the friends we made along the way
tiny violin
oh well. i should be on track now atleast. appreciate yall โค๏ธ
To fuck around is human. To find out is divine. 
Womp womp also hi 
damn we got santa reaper before actual santa
hi hi

do i count the 129k x3 now?
Why have I never known you can multiple produce on anvil ๐
golden anvil + big bubble
Oh i have them but I mean 3 of the same item
Im like 8 months in at this point ๐
lmao yeah you can either produce 3 item at the same time or x3 one single item
i have to get sooooooo many propol screws for pants that's so dreadful!!
dont make lustre armor, problem solved
all my characters are producing them 110k+ 3ร an hour and it still will take me about 1-2 weeks
i did maths
lustre bad, unless you wanna slab it but I'd do it later 
lustre is needed for progressing further in armor making
nope
like i put green amor in yellow then in troll and so on no?
lustre lead to diabolical then nothing, same for void to chiz to nothing
troll armor is a new one that you can craft without any prior armor
so i wait for troll and no no green or yellouw?
don't worry it's only the beginning of the much harder and annoying crafts 
25 pearler shells and gold twine give me the rest
so things don't get better?
EXACTLY!
Kruk armour is very easy once you get to it
are you saying easy from the perspective of w6 pro?
yeah if you can make the magma armor divine is as easy
At some point you will get to a stage where you can get all those mats in no time at all
from my 2 month in w6, kruk is an easy armor to craft, it only need mats of the boss
i always always am too fast with that stuff
i remember making void amor w3 with like 130 bop box prints
that took me a month
i think I'll have to wait much much longer until i make those shiny dhiny amours
this is not real ๐ญ
damn you'd have it faster if you went w4, got ES and farmed the mats with your ES 
....ik..
well you couldn't know x)
guys, does pocket divinity need time to refresh or it's changed instantly?
this might take a whileโฆ
Should be instant.
thanks 
since I'm a non doot enjoyer, I could probably change Harriep to Arctis while I resample stuff on all my characters
as Harriep shouldnt affect the initial samplesize, only the output in printer, right?
Wth is that recipe for
You're missing the w6 spice?
well yeh, i havent done much pushing in w6, ive been backtracking skills and alchemy
i rushed from w1 to w6 in 2 weeks
and now im missing a ton of skilling stuff so just backtracking before pushing w6
You should have arctis on everyone as a default.
1 ES on Purrmep with Arctis as the poly link.
For sampling you can put goat and snake in pocket divinity.
Have you played the game before?
Phoenix wing plus robe= high dmg that can brute force most content
That would explain it.
I've switched from bear to goat when I unlocked it and replaced everyone into lab, I shouldve left them on bear?
It was either knowledge, whaling or somehow the buffs got that silly that W6 is achievable for new players in 2 weeks.
is there a crystal countdown checklist>?
Well, i mean technically it was 3 weeks but the 1 empty week was mostly because of work and watching guides instead of actually playing
hell i didnt even know that roo and owl existed a week in
Ehh.... Usually if you're not sampling, you have Harriep and then Omni/Goat for your pocket divinity.
Arctis is universal to have regardless of what you're doing so it's a lot easier to change goat from Pocket Div rather than using one of your weekly god unlinks.
ah gotchu, that makes sense 
You'll stack arctis/goat but that's hardly a downside.
do I mainlink to Purrmep on my 2nd ES or that can be on Arctis as well, and Purrmep from talent?
Purrmep needs manual link, it can't be from talent.
manual, gotchu, I'm still working towards Omni so I'm not there yet tho 
Omni was such a slept on God before pocket div. Fucking insane to get hours of progress for refinery/cooking/printing/sailing etc.
why goat ? it works only if you inside the lab and arctis doesnt proc it. am i wrong ?
yeah lol, I wish I already had it
how do people get more than like 20m score in w5 collo, i clear it with plenty of time but cant get more than 20m
Goat if you're doing the lab/div jail grind. Not much reason to use Goat on pocket div outside of that.
oh. ok. thats reasonable.
Bubo instant kill on spawn.
You spamming next rounds?
yeah i spam and clear it all super quick with squire
you dont have dkโฆ?
yeah i meant dk
was gunna say, w5 and not everybody elite class 
how is it possible
More and more buffs getting added which means less gatekeeping by mechanics such as alchemy/def/accuracy and then you see mfs in W6 with w3 weapons and progression. 
i've started play when roo and owl already been here, but still its meaningless a bit
Back in my day (I play since April), we'd get kneecapped mid W3 until we learned to respect Shaquracy and FMJ, after which you'd get the fear of God put into you for neglecting systems and you'd never forget it. 
idk, I watched enough videos to know that w6 is gonna slap me hard if I neglect all the systems in the game, starting with alchemy 
KEKW
lab/divinity grind isnt that bad once you get to goat tho, I'm kinda used to it now
W6 ain't even all that. The only annoyance is with the portal locks.
The first or the second grind? 
second? 
like me, haven't crafted weapons since like half a year ago ๐
even better if you had some time in w4 before and farmed rings / boots for lab eff
what do you mean 
I did some boots farming on my ES yesterday, got 6 so far
I'm gonna get to ring farming soon
not rushing anywhere 
First lab grind is up to lvl 75.
First div grind is up to 40 (and 50 on one character)
Second lab grind is up to lvl 210.
Second div grind is for divinity ranks at your own leisure.
||Third and fourth grinds are bravery and justice in hole glhf <3||
yeah, I'm only doing the first grind 
dont forget about star sign with 20% bonus and card in w4, thats all together made a huge difference
You aren't. You'll do them all. โค๏ธ
I meant at the moment 
my bubo has the highest lab level obviously, leading with 33 or 34, not sure
so yeah, got a long way to go
I got 10k hours in bravery monument and now I started lab/div grind for 210. Fucking shocked at the divinity gains once everyone hit lvl 80 and can use that style. 20-40M div points a pop.
Lord knows it's needed.
damn thats huge, although divinity costs increase exponentially, dont they?
oh, 100% 
Bubo lab talents + transfusion put in an insane amount of work.
Went from lvl 75 on everyone (except bubo) to this in like 2 days.
1 ES ๐ญ
thats a lotta talent points, the highest level I can get from library is 145 
Oh hey, I remember that time period. You're probably aiming for lvl 200 tentacleye next.
i thought 2 bb was the way from what ive saw in the guides ;-;
kinda outdated
2BB was iirc pre-w6 but Summoning, Farming and Sneaking added so many buffs it's piss easy to finish cooking nowadays.
Even 2 ES is a bit iffy nowadays that pocket div got added.
you can change elite classes with a token, right?
2nd ES is kinda useful pre-doot in that case I guess 
2 Bubos were being debated upon post-hole but eh... it's better to keep whatever new chars (post 7th char) as beginner and wait for master classes.
es still better than second bb/sb to farm particles in end game from prints. or it is not a case ?

Wdym farm atoms with ES?
I could still go for 2DK, 2ES and 2SB, right?
2 DK and 2 SB yeah. It's only 2 ES that's being questioned now.
I see I see
Hell, even 2 SB is debatable since with "big big forge" in Hole, you can forge a lot more.
But the bug prints are needed so he stays.
i'm not, i am still progging w4-w5 and just opened w6. Just thought than in the end i'll upgrade bubbles through particles and very high output of base resources.
Only if you need to hourly click 4 bug based bubbles
Give this a look. Might sort things out a bit but you'll still be annoyed by sample slots.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0
If you get the bug bubbles atomable you can basically ignore them if you want, only one SB wouldnโt hurt you at all
thanks, my 101th firefox tab for idleon 
Throw it in a bookmarks folder lul
done already 
You got the Herus setup?
the what now?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?usp=sharing
Why is there different sampling set ups??
I'm swimming in spreadsheets 
Herus for gear, Trial for what's actually useful to sample and where you need it.
Ah okay
Hm mighty interesting
I'll throw another for shits n giggles. 
What a contributive comment to make
It is Merry Christmas btw
Well if you celebrate it
Mighty interesting

Well Merry Christmas bro
quite interesting but eventually you will made own one with bubbles / stamps / vials ranks and respectively "farm priority"
That one is made in order to make it easier for you to figure out what to prioritize. It doesn't show any actual priority list. 
How can Christmas be real if the Christmas name tag doesn't exist in my slab
You just have to believe in the magic of Christmas
did not believe in xmas magic, but rng god still just rewarded me
This might be perfect for me, thaanaks
got the elephant
do I disconnect everyone from snake and connect to elephant?
Why were you connected to snake
pocket divi w/ goat and rabbit
bear useless because lab jail
(well, snake also useless for lab jail)
also lab jail is until all gods are unlocked or until certain total lab level?
if you don't have omniphau, that's fine. snake afk still provides benefit for lab at least
oh right
wait its early
I just unlocked omniphau
if you have omniphau, i'd highly recommend it in your setup over snake
I was thinking I should give up one omniphau claim and put in harriep instead (switch to omni before claiming the rest)
How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep + Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat + Snake
How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - anyone in lab on Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat), anyone not in lab can be on Bear
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep + Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear + Snake
are my recommendations but obv opinions can vary
Omni carried my w6 catch up phase
what is Lab2100 ? i thought that total skill lvl 1k from rift is a last meaningfull threshold which we want to achive, everything else what we want to above it is very specific cases like construction and sneaking
3 new lab jewels from w6 jade emporium are given for every 700 lab levels your account has
1k balls, do I launch them?
ah.
is it exist in wiki ? i see 3 Pure Opal but seems like you are talking not about them
normal link does something that pocket div doesn't for gods other than purrmep?
oh i see every 700lvl it is a requrement to get it
how does my maestro (that I've had in the lab since beginning of time) have level lower than my warrior that I've put there a few days ago ๐ญ
Its more of a failsafe for the alchemy water lab node. Once you get to point where you can start hourly clicking bubbles, you'll run through water very quickly - making it now beneficial to run the water node in lab. But if you utilize Bear in the pocket link rather than through a real link - you run the risk of constantly nuking your water supply and having to re-CC on bubo
what is the maxroll on this?
79
ah
oh so its huge
even if you min rolled, simply having double loot is bis eitherw ay
a few have hats
damn
I've got a double 19% loot value today
from that guy
could have been a better captain ๐
double 19s isn't bad - will easily be used til you start doing full ender replacements
Kaito, what do people do once they have all artifacts? Just afk on last island to make bank?
that and get all boats to 300
ender?
300 ew
ender is the fancy captain at the end
ohh
Enders can suck my balls.
Elusive mfs
I got one the next day after unlocking ender captains and then haven't seen another for like a month.
5 minutes till my daily reset, then I try totem 4 again
what do I buy from the gemshop rn?
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plants regrow faster then i can turn off kitsune lmao is it stuck on forever now?
Ive bought all the upgrades anyway was just curious if anyone else has it stuck on lol
u can probabaly turn it off with harvest all+being outside w5 town
Ha that worked, barely they still regrew darn near instantly lol
Are there anymore improvement methods after this?
Not for now.
Is there any way to toggle auto pet abilities on mobile
Same as pc doesn't work?
I tried to toggle on it just removes the pet
you can get a food slot and put the three strength potions on all you players
You need to tap the ability checkmark, not the full pet.
I might have to login on a computer
You got a stilus? Might help avoid fat fingering on accident.
Try tapping the bottom half of the ability
should i get vman after i do divinity jail
yez
ok. was i supposed to have vman alr?
not necessarily
but some divinity's will make it way more easier
If you have Nobi, it's easier to unlock Vman.
is that 6th or later? ๐ฆ
that's what i said yes
way earlier
2nd
yellow mantis
oh lol i have that one alr
oh that one is third i thought
Double kills from that, double kills from Lab, solid 4x progress.
i have snake and bear
yes they did misrake
get the next one and then you may attempt vman
make sure to use arctis and yellow man in pocket divinity
for lab bonus and more bonus
also watch a vman guide because you can easily mess him up
he's the dom doretto of idleon
k
dang it i wasted my mini bosses because i accidentally walk over them and died, was gonna farm kruk keys for my first kruk kill, im so mad
You can always candy moles
You can always wallow in desolation
First ever mega fish
Whatโs the best go to sailing strat ? Or is there a guide
No guide that I know of. If you're just starting out, stick to the first island until you have all 4 artifacts. Upgrade boats as you can, send boats to islands that are within 2-4 hour travel distance (if you can check 2-3 times a day, if only once, then 4-8 hours is fine)
Use IE/IT to check for upgrade breakpoints and see which islands are within optimal range
Unlock new boats/captain, make sure you scroll
Rare treasures won't be unlocked until sailing level 5
LETS GOOOOO
All archer elites
oh, right, there's a sailing section on there
Welcome
Is there a way to have multiple divinities active? other than doot
pocket divinity from Hole
And the ES talent.
whats the name of talent
with 8 strings for harp and these notes how should i set up
is this afk only?
didnt realize yes or no was too hard to answer
There's two parts to it, one is active, other is afk
Active for kills/cards, afk for statues, but afk relies on higher DR to reduce time to guarantee drops and MK to get more drops
SB active, everyone else afk
I also linked the specific cavern in the guide so you wouldn't have to search for it (unless discord is being fucky and didn't take you to that step)
i dont have all the notes in the guide setup..pretty sure thats why there is a thread for questions outside the guides
tried to make my question specific with screenshot too
You can use this spreadsheet which is linked in there
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D707M1vM4yS3yMc9CF3KAtq1BO-78AqL0JqwSQ77NN8/edit?gid=0#gid=0
But general advice is simply just keep everything roughly leveled and push notes via C, as you go further in hole and get more bonuses, everything will kind of even out and early progress won't matter too much
I know there's a lot of text there, but this is also in there 
And then a bit further down
thank you, spread sheets just sorta boggle my mind because of my adhd. i had trouble with them in my old engineering job too. I thought i was a bit further than early game with 8 strings now
5 notes
thats why the specific question
Well, two (three, i guess) parts to harp, with notes, strings, and letters. Kind of...annoyingly designed. I also linked the guide because I honestly don't remember what I did at that point. Laziness probably won and I just went DEFCCCC or something
But there are also engi schematics that may affect that and you didn't say what levels your letters are or what notes you had unlocked or any other portion except 4 letters, so hard to give advice
C is mostly note production right? because thats what im lacking.
oh sorry about that
these the only 3 i dont have unlocked
That seems mostly fine then. Once you unlock G, you'll use that to push other letter xp and you'll make use of the Domino Effect schematic and pluck/strum your G stings last
You can either go full G or half C/G until things catch up a bit more
i want to put G at the end then?
oh ok c/g until lvls out
makes sense
i am kinetic. i am smart i just comprehend different than others.
thank you for explaining
does anyone know how to make the best blood berserker talent build?
yea you respec, then throw it into the kitchen
Hey they can lab too.
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There is also a google doc but I dont have that.
isnt it outdated or no?
cuz i have both but they are different in some aspects
A talents havent been changed like ever, B if you can do better why are you using a guide?
They cant be outdated if they haven't changed but there is some mistakes on both of them (like siphon)
i dont have better thats why im looking for the best build and like i said they are diffrent thats why im kinda confused on which one to use
They should both work I haven't seen the differences between them thu.
yeah but which one should i choose?
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here is the google doc u can find the builds in the later pages
dude what
all it shows is a fighting/afk and a skilling set
it's 2 builds for 2 different presets depending on if you're fighting or skilling
am i trippin
yeah? what seems to be the problem i dont understand?
you use both?
if you're fighting monsters then use the first one
if you're fishing, or cooking then use the second
you allocate the first build to preset 1, then the second build to prset 2 and you have both
yes? i cant focus on skilling and fighting on the same build that wont be efficient?
yeah ik
so according to u is the builds on this doc better than the one in idleon toolbox?
im still not up to that point but i do have alot
.
i don't know the difference between the 2 builds
and i doubt it even matters
you don't get enough points to max out all of your talents in 1 preset till much later in the game, that's why you have 2 presets
a skilling build and a fighting build
yes
and yes you can't do both at the same time, there fore, 2 presets
really? why?
tell me what the difference is
well the toolbox tells u to invest in the critikill skill while the doc doesnt thats one diffrence
and? what else
im not really going to look for all diffrences but im just looking for the best build thats all
build for what
blood berserker
and probably the other guys too later on
all
Who cares? You aren't going to active your berserker, so just put points in whatever looks good for AFKing.
the dude is trying to decide if one guide is better than the other, cause one has crit multi and the other doesnt
yeah thats problem i dont really know whats best for afking
BB is full afk. Crit is useless afk.
bro... it doesnt have to be either
Berserker is a minor class that contributes nothing to anything other than cooking. So if he's AFKing a skill, then invest in skill talents. If he's AFKing combat, then put them in whatever.
really? ok noted thx
Don't overthink this game, haha
Tab 1 and 2 is straight forward, you take the same stuff you'd take on any other class. Tab 3 you should know about zows and the dmg skills. 4 is more of the same.
so basically just put whatever looks good?
Now you're getting it =3
then which talent should i increase the max level with the library or does it not matter and go with wichever order?
sry for bad english btw
Scoli should tell you that.
whats that?
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is there risk of my account being hacked if i make my idleon efficency account public?
No, lol. Everyone uses both IE and IT.
I don't
alr thx
I mean I dont use them but ya I have them
90% of playerbase would be fucked if there is this risk
ok just making sure thank you all
my best one yet holy
it's always a risk
living is a risk
to say there is no risk, is a lie. the onus on understanding those risks and choosing to accept those risks is on the person.
can someone tell me how to get something out of this prompt i never get anything out of it
You Dismiss, but it's not worth it for a single chest
?wiki Justice has all the options if you want to take a look 
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Justice has all the options if you want to take a look :NODDERS:
Got last night @bleak gazelle
ok maybe here is best. I am at kruk 20m dps with DK
Get more slab hehe
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Got 2nd last mega feather amd 3rd last fish today
hmm havent done star signs yet, best one for kruk?
hmm havent done star signs yet, best one for kruk?
One with move speed and damage %
The ones that give dmg. 
Ill probably just do kruk with my 14m dmg es lmao i hit 200m+ crit
yeah my ES is lvl 100
thanks, ill go farm those!
When i hit w6 ill probably just farm smithing and get godshard will take me like a decade or two
Ngl i wouldnt go with fat boi one cuase less move speed
It's 3%, on DK you're basically just standing on one side or the other of the boss
Mine is 180
I should probably get more damage on es but what can i say im bored
Im literally the last person that said shi in the 3 chats
why do i get more construct xp when i check on my sb than my dk
Spaghetti code
Griffy has a vidoe on it
like it's a 50% increase xp for sb yeah but wasnt that vid just for construction rate
Nah its a short
The 1min or more/less
Bro i rushed shi okay
I dont know that
๐
All my knowledge is basically just from griffy vids and nocturne ice vids by now lmao
so do u log into dk or sb for construction, cuz dk gives higher construction but sb higher xp
Bb
yeah that difference is outstanding lol
YAY
Yay
Is skilling xp easier with the hole update? Asking cause i was about to work on maestro.
You get some mining and catching efficiency out of it but leveling up skills was never particularly hard.
For those classes that spec, sure but maestro is quite hard
Yes
Owl be like
I get 50% skill exp from owl rn and my bonuses are low lvl
Idk how you find it hard in that case. You can try improving alchemy/stamps/transfusion but getting everything to lvl 100 (enough to equip godshard tools) should be pretty smooth sailing.
You only need 100% eff with transfusion.
I wish bravery gave other skilling effe
Still relatively early game, am early w5 basically.
It only gives mining
Me too
Im 3 maps away from kruk rn
Oh, you should not worry about skill leveling right now then, unless it prevents you from equipping a higher tier tool or you're not #1 in those skills.
i'm sure we'll get one for each skill, we have mining and catching, fishing will come
Yeah my mman is not #1 in mining and choppin
