lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[stable temple]

Did anyone greenstack decent mana potions? The ones that only drop from bloques

Chizoar helm and chest, troll shoes and legs

[graceful tundra]

ty

[solar seal]

scoIi has that in t13 for GS which is in category of what i call "doable but very time consuming" - i'm sure folks have

[junior dune]

Yep, I've done it

[stable temple]

Did you candy it? Or ES? I'm just afking my ES at bloques now for seesaw statues and wondering if/when I should greenstack the mana pot while I'm at it

[junior dune]

Candied it. ES is bad endgame since afk gains and respawn scale way better than the portal

[stable temple]

Man I don't have enough candy to just burn on greenstacking those pots

I should probably use my candy more instead of hoarding though

[junior dune]

Yeah it isn't a good idea. Would recommend getting gmush kills or cakes first if you don't have 1T/100k personal

[astral cipher]

Hi! If I understand right, I can have 2 more god link with Pocket divinity (Like in the screenshot) ?

If yes, does it mean I can have 3 gods with a "normal" caracter by going to the altar to link with a 3rd god and 4 gods with my ES? (Altar link + talent)

[bleak gazelle]

Here's some recommended setups

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

[astral cipher]

Cool thanks 🙂

Also, If I do a Bear/Goat combination, I still need to be INSIDE the laboratory to get Divinity points right?

Good thanks

[solar drift]

[solar seal]

i saw it

both of them

[solar drift]

Time to forget about it

[bleak gazelle]

damn, missed it

[solar drift]

what did you miss

[solar seal]

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-agent-k-figment-of-your-imagination-neuralyzer-mib-gif-7763596499493619120

[solar drift]

Do you mind taking off your glass

[waxen ivy]

Is there a way to predict what Blobby G will offer for the next trade to farm it

[echo crag]

the sailing trade ?

[waxen ivy]

Yeah

[echo crag]

IT got a page that show the future trades

[waxen ivy]

Oh? Nice thanks

[echo crag]

just check sailing in it, youll see the trade tab

[empty wharf]

Aw man! When will this magma boots recipe drop.

[waxen ivy]

I'm blind. Where in sailing is it?

[waxen ivy]

Oh, not on the wiki

That's efficiency or toolbox?

[echo crag]

toolbox

[waxen ivy]

Thanks I feel dumb lol

I need just 28k more rift kill to get rift 16!

[raw wadi]

How do I get more chests/loot pile capacity

[waxen ivy]

If you can check sailing twice a day this doesn't matter. But if you can't i suggest Unending Loot Search Talent from the SB

[solar seal]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=loot.*pile
one note: the dream catcher only adds 1 or 2 (forget which) - subsequent rarities gives 0

the cap total w/ all gem shop purchases is 30 (29 if you run unending loot)

[waxen ivy]

Otherwise
Chest Sluggo from gem shop
Arrow head from Island 4 can help you keep the lower level chest out of the pile
Dreamcatcher from island 8

Kaito did a better job then me....

[cerulean mortar]

hey esquire's riddle what action speaks loudest yet not at all

whats the correct answer

[solar seal]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Caverns#Monument_Of_Justice-1 you can find all prompts and outcomes on wiki

[cerulean mortar]

it wont pull up the actual monument on wiki for some reason i checked it out

oic

im dumbass

[bleak gazelle]

it's a relatively new change

[raw wadi]

How do I reduce the hownds difficulty

[bleak gazelle]

tap to select, long hold to reset. or use mouse scroll wheel

[raw wadi]

Why is the long hold working? Oh it worked

[rotund zinc]

Does cranium cooking work afk?

[wild osprey]

trying to get laval skull for rift, proabably best i dont use bubo for that yes?(or change its skills)

[echo crag]

yeah bubo is bad for that since it can wipe the whole map

[bleak gazelle]

i'd say sb > es/bubo > anyone manual

[wild osprey]

theyre only from the first island but, i just unlocked eldritch artifacts and just got 2 of them at same time.

still yet to get the regular artirfacts from my later islands though

ok, now i feel like im using all my luck or something has changed. claimed afk time on a character so got 35 hours of sailing progress, go to claim that stuff, got an acnient, another eldritch, and artifact from island 9(which is my highest rn)

[craggy willow]

You always want to keep a few mobs alive, so skulls can charge up

[peak verge]

Up to the line, you can get all artifacts in like a day or two. After the line, it's gonna take weeks to get a single artifact.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1312454628801122364/image.png?ex=6762f79f&is=6761a61f&hm=bf91ab00f2ccccfd548dfb637a416891a46aafc7714ce388a4206dfb7543cbff&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=957&height=238

[bleak gazelle]

need to move your line over two imo

[peak verge]

Those snow artifacts can suck my ass, they were stubborn as fuck.

[bleak gazelle]

kek

[turbid plaza]

Yeah it’s taking me forever to get skill eff artifact to soverign

Although I only have a few of my slower boats on it

[peak verge]

I had everyone full force and they just wouldn't cooperate.

[turbid plaza]

Also is it necessary to calculate speed by hand? IT is way off and ie also underestimates it

[peak verge]

IE should be pretty accurate. Did you tick the star sign / chip? Also every change you make in sailing, you need to cloud save for it to update in IE.

[rustic sundial]

just unlocked chemical

what can i do now on gaming?

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/vW3ZqeI

[echo crag]

^ this is known as suffering from chem trains

[rustic sundial]

if i click harvest all

does chemical disapear?

i stil cant do much since its at 7.7 min still

yipe

oki

got 3 and one is tier 5

[golden wing]

Chem trains are the devil, I’m just having gaming be in the background until 5 secs log is annoying.

[merry mortar]

Is it intentional that the character I have linked to purrmep only gets the gaming speed buff when sitting on the pedestal thing?

[bleak gazelle]

it shouldn't be

like i'm at 0.8min regardless of whether i'm on or off

[rustic sundial]

green dude

[vapid geode]

Just got to Tremors, and I dont see where the last card could be?

[echo crag]

hole

[junior dune]

Cavern 9 of hole

[vapid geode]

Ahh alright a while until then.

Only at what 7 or so?

the Wish place

[echo crag]

yeah 7 is wish

[wheat hinge]

Worth it? I hit a progression wall, so villager level ups take several days now

[bleak gazelle]

If you have the gems, sure. Conjuror points won't speed up villagers levels though. I'd check out #1303761365273415700 for some more info though, too

[wheat hinge]

Some conjurer bonuses boost villager XP. But thanks I'll check the guide

[bleak gazelle]

Fair, though I would you'd have at least the top two blues maxed before hitting a wall

[wheat hinge]

The guide assumes I bought all the gem shop conjurer points lol. I guess buying them is standard practice then.

thanks again

[stable bolt]

Is it normal for divinities giving 1 xp per hour starting off?

[tardy yew]

If i have a plant of a higher rank it takes longer to grow than a plant with lower rank
but how much more longer do they take to grow at a higher rank?

because I'd like to calculate certain stuff which i am unable to

[bleak gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[tardy yew]

😵‍💫

[marble lotus]

bubble 25 is crazy wth

[fast pine]

How do you get pocket divinity to level 2? There isnt a level up prompt anywhere

[bleak gazelle]

Unlock the third blue upgrade

[runic girder]

Ive taken a look at hole bonuses and is there nothing besides just afk to improve it?

I got nothing on my first 3 runs then i got 5 chests this run which seems inconsistent, wondering if theres anything i can actually do to make it better other then just sit out my time

[solar drift]

what bonuses, what run

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like justice

[solar drift]

shh i know

[fossil mica]

Stick in the lab till all the gods are open or pull out once everyone hits 40 divinity/75 lab and slow roll the last 2?

[runic girder]

Just realised i didnt specify but also sounds like i didnt have to

[solar drift]

"ok ace, can you help me?"

[bleak gazelle]

all the homies hate justice

[solar drift]

ye but i need help

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle

[red mauve]

Hey at least something finally has additive bonus. As in you dont need to look at it every 37 sec to be optimal.

[echo crag]

it require thinking, can't have that

[marble lotus]

what should I farm next between bullseye statues, gold twine and w5 recipes?

[tardy yew]

Ooo Ooo Oooo i found a bug!!
do you guys know the birthday card from lvl up gift?
if yo- i use it in the hole my game goes boom

[teal lynx]

Discovered it a month too late

[tardy yew]

😤 hmpf!

[brave fable]

is it worth waiting to sample for zerg rushogen or is it fine without

[random mulch]

Why doesn't this portal work?

[fierce cargo]

cause your not high enough lvl

[brave fable]

doesnt go anywhere

[random mulch]

How does one get the starfire ores then? I assumed it would just be further down the mine.

[fierce cargo]

it's bottom left

[bleak gazelle]

just sample before and after

[brave fable]

hell nah

i just need at least wave 50 on the w5 td then i think i unlock slow roast wiz

and ill redo w1-w5 td then finally use my worship charge

[random mulch]

Thanks, idk how i missed that portal

[brave fable]

THEN ill max prayers and THEN ill sample

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like a lot of time where you could just have better samples right now

[gilded elk]

Everything below the purple bar in the wiki is unobtainable? Or only the 2 buffs within the lvl 18?

[fierce cargo]

yes you're done, for now

[gilded elk]

Ok, sadge. I wanted the extra strings from sumptuous harp

[chrome light]

guys what is the best way to open last mutation in gaming ? i'm clicking every 0.5% is it a bad way ? have to try to gather more dna ?

[fierce cargo]

0.1% clicks

[chrome light]

0.1 sounds like to click after every harvest.

[fierce cargo]

yes quantity>quality

[bleak gazelle]

Clear board, roll; use sprinkler, clear, roll; use log, clear, roll, use sprinkler, clear, roll

[chrome light]

could i use kitty to faster it a bit ?

[bleak gazelle]

yes, kitsune should have been on a while ago

[chrome light]

ok. thanks

[steel crown]

Hi hi first time getting to the hole! Is it something I need to leave my characters afk at or does it progress on its own for the beginning of it?

[tardy yew]

there's passive stuff like well or bell but theres also stuff you need to afk at like monument or motherload

the idleon wiki has been updated so you better check that out

[stray hull]

from freebie card pack just now. woo

[simple wadi]

Pinned messages

[agile pagoda]

Let's gooo

2 runs after

[odd socket]

is there a limit on the +damage from bravery? i swear i just picked it twice and it just did not get added to the bonuses list

its at lvl 185 which seems like a weird number to stop on maybe just a visual bug with the bravery loot, dont remember what I was at before

[teal lynx]

Bravery only displays 6 buffs, but you get them all at the end

[odd socket]

oh weird, first time I noticed

thanks

[junior dune]

It's because the swords would overlap with the bonuses otherwise but definitely a solvable problem

[quiet tree]

Finally the 100% roll will be mine.

Just 1 more day

[main quarry]

what is the best map in the game to do CC atm? I'm doing it on Tremor Wurms atm

[dreamy merlin]

thats the best

[main quarry]

no better map in w6?

[dreamy merlin]

minichiefs in w6 are 2nd best for cc, but they give lots more money and are almost equal

so either works

[main quarry]

not there yet T-T

[dreamy merlin]

then yea just tremor

[humble finch]

Hey guys, can you check your slabs please? I just had a little under 1,600 this morning, and now I have this...

[fallow aurora]

urs is bugged

[simple wadi]

Did your chr get above 88 mph movement speed and now you're getting credit for future items?

[fickle lake]

ok i can see why burger op

[stable parrot]

….that’s not

That’s not why burger is good

Assuming your referring to the flurry of fists blazed across your screen

[proud pumice]

wdym the sandy is sending all these punches because he's trying to catch the burger

[fickle lake]

he stalls long enough for me to infinite uptime of stall and refill

because 10k% extra hp

[stuck river]

chat place bets am i getting sprout recipe or lantern recipe first

[fierce cargo]

NEITHER

[stuck river]

it’ll eventually happen the problem is WHEN

[bleak gazelle]

W7 launch

[agile plover]

can someone help me ?

i don't know how i can do this achievement without resseting my coins

[proud pumice]

change preset on vman

you shouldn't have this talent lvled on fighting preset

[agile plover]

this one ?

oh

i see

ty

[frozen gust]

is there a snail calculator somewhere that helps with when to upgrade?

[stable temple]

Whoo

[karmic geyser]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[empty wharf]

What do you guys use in farming magma recipes? Specifically the boots. Been stuck here for 3 days using es that I am considering using dk for statue, bubo for cc for efficient farming.

[stable temple]

If OJ just go ahead and bubo, it's a good CC map

You can also candy your BB to superchow first if you don't have it yet

[craggy obsidian]

i got a neutron ice ring, anything i can do w it?

[waxen ivy]

So what V-man talents should I focus on? I got a Fighting preset and Skilling preset Vman level is 156 I have maxed One Step ahead on each preset.

[craggy obsidian]

ooo niceee

[waxen ivy]

Thanks!

Is that a bot command btw?

[faint wigeon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml?pli=1#

[novel mural]

how much divinity are you generating per hour?

[keen basin]

how do i reset the bigger bite amplifiers in th whole

[solar seal]

click to select - long hold - upon release, amp will reset

[keen basin]

i just suck at reading thank you

[solar seal]

its a common idleon-er ailment

[keen basin]

👍

[warm holly]

Are the world 5 merit shop unlocks not out yet? I have the anvil tab unlocked

[faint wigeon]

recipe are dropped from monster now

[solar seal]

Where do I find W5 recipes? I don't see them in the merit unlocks.
Starting from W5, all major discoverable recipes are through rare mob or miniboss drops.

[warm holly]

Gotcha. I was misled by this bottom text, thanks guys

[solar seal]

ah i should add taht to my pasta

[faint wigeon]

thats kruk

[solar seal]

those are boss merits for the boss recipes

[warm holly]

doh!

of course lol, thanks again

[solar seal]

its a nuanced difference. easily confuseable between 'merit unlock' and 'merit shop'

[faint wigeon]

theres 12 recipe from mob and miniboss right?

[solar seal]

11 mob and 3 miniboss

[faint wigeon]

ight

right forgot food and mat pouch were from mobs as well

[solar seal]

w5 is easy to count cause its literally every mob up to and including moles

w6 is the annoying one cause it skips some and doggies have 3

[faint wigeon]

dang

welp so far I got ricecake and baby troll recipe from leveling my char in w6

[solar seal]

w6 recipes will feel easier to get (outside both gloves) cause you should naturally have more DR but at same time spend more time on a map due to portal requirements -- while magma glove and marbi glove have same rarity, in my experience, lot of folks cry woe over magma recipe much more than marbi

[stable temple]

It's probably harder to onyx w3 statues than to farm magma glove tbh

[lost plank]

Magma was tough, marbi is...

Marbi feels inconceivable for me tbh

[proud pumice]

well don't look at godshard gear

[lost plank]

I doubt I could do it without the whole 1500 stacked rice quest. But anyways, what captain stats should I look for?

[proud pumice]

sailing speed and loot

[lost plank]

What is it, 100 thousand dark lanterns or something

[lost plank]

Even on low tiers like red and blue?

[twin pendant]

Yeh later you switch to double loot

[proud pumice]

tiers affect minimum and max range, you can have a low tier be better than a high tier if one has good rolls and the other bad rolls

[lost plank]

My fastest guy can do piano in a decent amount of time

[proud pumice]

exactly lol

[lost plank]

D'oh man, I HATE it when I'm right...

[twin pendant]

Mmyeh getting the recipe is nothing compared to that lantern grind

[lost plank]

Seriously I was guessing for shiggles. I can't believe I was right

[proud pumice]

well tbf that's the most expensive one, the rest "only" requires a lot of godshard bars

[twin pendant]

You forgot to mention 1mil salts and 1mil bars. So only 1/3 right. Not a passing grade I'm afraid

[fickle lake]

rift 30 is so pain, i cant multi kill

[lost plank]

My fastest captain is 28.7m speed

[lost plank]

I have 3 people grinding rift 54 rn... It'll be some more days

[lost plank]

I expected a 1/0, sooo...

[quiet tree]

Oh like 2k or something

[silver ice]

Does bitty litty stack between 2 dks

[bleak gazelle]

None of the account-wide talents stack, just takes the highest level that's active

[silver ice]

Thanks

[lethal oracle]

which class do i need to be to unlock the Bravery statue in the Caverns

[bleak gazelle]

any, just need to afk there for a full hour minimum

[lethal oracle]

ah ok because i was legit confused ... but can i use candy or it has to be active afk

[bleak gazelle]

full afk

[lethal oracle]

ah ok thanks

[empty wharf]

Finally got one.

[oblique jasper]

Now you just need to wait for a few months and you might be able to equip those bad boys!!!!

[empty wharf]

thankfully Omni carrying refinery. Need moar salts

[midnight venture]

Thoughts?

:^)

[fickle lake]

assuming that’s its using the 1st meditation thats 8k exp

or in short about 10 hrs of progress if you play the game for 3 days

[quartz fiber]

What is the meaning of "enhance conjuror bonuses"??

[zinc torrent]

Is there a guide for sailing?

[floral elbow]

Going to be in world 5 soon... Any tips for early grinding

[fickle lake]

alchemy.

[floral elbow]

Fun

[fickle lake]

hard to tell since idk your progress for your characters maybe send your ie

[floral elbow]

I'm definitely slacking on alchemy

[fickle lake]

No matter where we are in the game alchemy is never enough

[floral elbow]

Then I'm definitely slacking

[empty wharf]

Where can I farm golden fishing line?

[young nest]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Flombeige

[gilded elk]

Cosmo, Enhance! You can now enhance conjuror bonuses! Also, uh, +(10 per lvl)% villager exp gain, why not? 3
This is additive, right? Thus last to be maxed

[storm timber]

Does the es share believe talent stack with other es share believe talent?

[stable parrot]

Which one is that

[storm timber]

This one

[stable parrot]

No stack

Highest lvl is the one that’s used

90% sure

[rotund zinc]

So I'm trying to solo the w1 dungeon but i keep running out of things to summon more frogs, is this intentional or am I bad

[faint wigeon]

kinda intentional because no luck in drops, so either increase the drop rate stats or get more member

[warm holly]

I think you can also chop the tree on the left of the bottom floor, and that will cause a couple monsters to spawn

Might be wrong though

For this star sign, do I equip it when I'm assigning the boats their islands and then Im free to take it off, or...?

[young nest]

rank?

[warm holly]

thanks boss

[fickle lake]

Just 3 spices and my cooking speed gets so much faster

[fickle lake]

about a 129395.218003x cooking speed gain in just 24 hrs, breeding is goated

[jade fossil]

do you guys think they will release DK master class?

or only BB, Bubo, and Beastmaster

[peak verge]

why wouldn't he

[jade fossil]

I just hope

since we need that extra DK value

[peak verge]

DK already provides way too much value. If anything, the master classes should try and fix BB and BM being more or less useless outside of their niche.

[stuck river]

throughout heaven and earth, i alone am the inevitable one

(this took a bit more than a day)

[marble lotus]

left ES getting gold twine overnight and only got one, left it alone for 20 min during lunch and I got the other two

[stuck river]

active for lunch?

[marble lotus]

yeah

[stuck river]

portal makes page one drops go brr

[marble lotus]

overnight was also active

[peak verge]

tbh just candy for twines, you only need 30 and they're a pain to deal with

[stuck river]

i candy with sb yes

[marble lotus]

just really lopsided rng

[stuck river]

real

yep

[marble lotus]

I ain't at that level yet

[stuck river]

afk would still be more efficient

[empty wharf]

37M for 2 hours .

[stuck river]

[silent birch]

How did you do it?

[fickle lake]

Mostly from 3 spices and getting lucky at unlocking recipe, if your asking on how i power through 3 stages of breeding its because of this lineup

ps i also had like 4k ladles and spent it all on unlocking recipe and leveling

[stuck river]

spam vman

[fickle lake]

oh right completely forgot about vman… i should do speedrun havent touched vman in a week

[cyan mantle]

Shut it bud

[sacred knot]

Who is the best card farming char? I have been using ES for high active kph + high droprate but idk if I should just do vman for raw chance per kill. It was fast in w1 and w2 but has slowed down a lot in w3 (trying to plat my collections)

[fickle lake]

ES, cards are not in rare drop table plus portals also drop cards

[stuck river]

fuck you want

[cyan mantle]

Friend

[sacred knot]

Awesome thanks! and I figure vman is best for the colo exclusive drops anyways since there is limited chances per run

for xylo anddig doug

[fickle lake]

ES for anything thats not in rare drop table
DK for crystals and rare drop table
VMAN for boss drops
Bubo for money

[sacred knot]

Makes sense. Would you consider dig doug and xylo boss tables 🤔

resource limited rolls ig

[fickle lake]

U could just use DK since the orb acts like an additional kill every 100 kills

[stuck river]

Wat

[cyan mantle]

Bully

[stuck river]

,

[marble lotus]

I’ll try that next time

[north apex]

Should i farm the resources cards with the classes that are good at it or with the vman?

[bleak gazelle]

i think bb is better for fishing, but rest can be done by vman?

don't quote me on that though

[north apex]

hahaha ok. I was thinking about doing a test, but im too lazy to make 2 different setups for the same thing

[echo crag]

doing on on vman will be better both because of its higher card drop chance, and also cuz it will give it more skill lvl if you use transfusion where you can

[subtle osprey]

I have 1 of each class, what should be my first duplicate?

[bleak gazelle]

DK

[subtle osprey]

ty

[echo crag]

more build rate

[short leaf]

working on unlocking last 2 plant mutations what are the target mutation chance numbers i should look for when trying to research?

[terse verge]

1% for evergreen, 0.1% for chemplant

[peak summit]

what are the best bonuses from the cavern

[bleak gazelle]

In terms of what?

Nearly everything that affects non-cavern stuff is good

What's best mostly just depends on what point of the game you're at

[tardy yew]

depends on what you are looking for
but for me personally (and all non dooters)
it's pocket divinity

[humble wadi]

hi, how this works ?

is any topic related?

can it be 100% ?

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle main now won some summoning battles last night

[bleak gazelle]

no clue, i wouldn't waste wishes on it. resource generation for current schematics should be pretty quick

[sacred knot]

When going for resource cards do you active or afk it?

[golden wing]

Afk never really worth active skilling

[terse verge]

You can only get skilling cards while afk

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

lets goooo

[dapper lake]

Shoud i lvl it up?

[sick sentinel]

Yes at least for the passive bonus

[dapper lake]

idk after lvl semse like i shoud put in like 1 or 2?

[simple wadi]

I did full send and put it in all of my strings.

[woeful quiver]

Is the current cap for gravel 146m with the uber bar expansion? Seems low

[dapper lake]

Well i prob gonna do the same

[woeful quiver]

Is that with uber expansion? I can’t upgrade anything anymore

[solar drift]

yes

[woeful quiver]

iOS must be bugged because nothings going up anymore

[solar drift]

either is bug

or did you try not logging off

[woeful quiver]

I haven’t logged off no

[solar drift]

i dont mean as log off the account but close the game

[woeful quiver]

Yeah I’ve closed several times and nothing, my fill rate gets maybe 1m in a few seconds and everything’s stuck at cap

[solar seal]

you turned the expansion off kek

[woeful quiver]

How do I even do that lol

[solar drift]

i mean i hope he didnt

i didnt want to ask that

[woeful quiver]

I didn’t even know it was a thing lmao

[solar seal]

click off everything and single click the well

[woeful quiver]

Omfg

[solar drift]

..

[solar seal]

kek

[woeful quiver]

Lmao

[simple wadi]

The important thing is that you asked instead of waiting 5 months saying "This sh-t is bugged"

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-planet-of-the-apes-bad-apes-uh-oh-oops-gif-19568112

[woeful quiver]

Thanks for obvious fix yous saved me from making bug report lol

[solar seal]

at least you provided SS of why you thought your things were bugged - so its easy to see the error

some folks refuse to even provide evidence/proof of what they think is a bug when it ends up being a user error

[woeful quiver]

I completely forgot about that screen with the option, thanks again

The gains continue

[silent birch]

Not even 6 slots huh

[chilly salmon]

am i stupid or something? i want to follow some guides to get to wave 121 in citric conflict, and apparently anyone can place a tower on the small platform left of the tower, but whenever i try to do that, i cannot place anything there

[solar seal]

Its a recent change where towers can't be added on top of portals (lot of folks complained about accidentally changign maps when trying to click/upgrade towers) - so this was lava's bandaid solution. its an effective nerf, most felt in w5 td

[chilly salmon]

is there a citric conflict guide from after that change i can look up? i only need that one for the equinox challenge

[bleak gazelle]

#1277368276095336558

[solar seal]

^ the wave 50's actually utilize the backside, so you may need to adjust 1 party starter cause it fits 1 less now, but they should work still

[bleak gazelle]

i should probably remove pancakes version of that

or maybe just put it below the other two

[teal lynx]

Can you do me a favour and change the second imgur link in the notes section with this one: https://imgur.com/a/ZSfqqMF ? (Or do your own Imgur link if that's better for you )
I just cut out the part that says Startue EXP (Alchemy bubble) is bugged, since that is no longer the case. I believe that this info is responsible for a few people being misled and spreading misinfo

[cobalt fog]

did i get lucky

im still pretty early in sailing

[solar seal]

if you don't have anything better, its okay. but its a captain that can whiff and provide you 0 benefits - at your gold bar level, i don't think its a captain worth 20% of your bank

[cobalt fog]

i guess that's true. i'm at 7 boats right now so might as well use him for now til i get a better one

[solar seal]

this is a trickz graphic so i'm guesing you didn't also change dreadlo > godshard on final bullet point

[teal lynx]

I did not change it
I think that would also be something Trickz has to do. Randomly adding a "Godshard" in there in the wrong size and format (?) would look very bad

[solar seal]

i can do it

[gilded elk]

Is there any place to spend these? Or are we all waiting for next hole release?

[solar seal]

current uses. otherewise no, not really

[gilded elk]

Where is that screenshot from?

[fierce cargo]

he made it

[high ether]

Uh anyone in w5 can check smt for me?

[fierce cargo]

are you going to ask what you need help with, or just that you need help

[high ether]

So Scarab nest is just completly missing for me?

I don't know if I'm just bugged or smt

I've checked the other bug nests and they are fine

I even thought I was on the wrong map or smt

[terse verge]

If you mean thing you need to hit to gain access to the gather node - thats a useless bonus regardless.
If you mean gather node itself is missing visually, see if you can click the area

[fallow aurora]

i see it

[high ether]

There's just nothing , I'm not even sure what platform he is rn

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried cloud saving and checking again? restarting game and checking again? checking with another character?

[high ether]

Yeah I've restarted and checked with different character

Maybe should try with diff platform as well

[fallow aurora]

its in the stiltmole map, r u sure ur in the right map?

[high ether]

I am

[strong shale]

how can i afk at the bravery monument with active on phone ?

[solar seal]

since you can't post ss - its on right edge

[strong shale]

what edge

[high ether]

So apparently I can see it in browser version.

Now this is witchcraft.

[terse verge]

What platform was bugging out - maybe just a re-install might solve it - seems like you lost an asset or something

[terse verge]

What drugs are you on wtf. Say it again

[fallow aurora]

i had a seizure reading it

[high ether]

Went back to Steam still wasn't showing up
Went back to browser, broke the bug nest to show bugs
Went back to Steam, now there are bugs flying

[terse verge]

Ah prob the graphic for the base nest was missing on your client for some reason

[high ether]

Well bugs are there now, can do what I wanted and see if it happens again later.

[echo crag]

would do a verify to see if any file are missing/corrupt

[river pine]

Is there an updated guide for the W5 tower defence since the changes?

[bleak gazelle]

Wave 200 guide doesn't use a tower on portal

or two wave 50 guides that don't use it either

[high ether]

What do I need to post images?

[terse verge]

Naw i believe you

[bleak gazelle]

!image

[terse verge]

Ooh

[obtuse orbit]

Why can't I send images?

For moderation purposes, images are not able to be sent until you reach the Copper Bar - Lv.1 (Lv.3 for #1073780959087964210 ). To level up in the discord, just hang out and talk for a bit. Every minute, you will get xp as long as you sent a message. Spamming will not level you up faster, so please don't do it. Try !rank in #bot-commands to see what level you are.

[high ether]

xD

Thanks

I just got a private bot message saying I leveled up a few minutes ago tho.

[river pine]

Where do I find the 200 guide?

[high ether]

Whatever, gn.

[bleak gazelle]

#1277368276095336558

[quiet tree]

Got Omniphau from my first 1%

Onto the next

[faint flower]

how do i get more crew members?

[tardy yew]

walk left

[faint flower]

wdym with left

there is nothing

[tardy yew]

now walk right

[faint flower]

now i see it

thanks alot

im gonna have to get the charachters better stuff probbably i havent been playing for a long time and my account is a mess

[tardy yew]

did you arrive here js now?

[faint flower]

nah i have been in world 5 for quite a bit

my warrior carried me

but i want the other charachters to get to the same point before going further

[tardy yew]

trust me
equip all xp prayers and make all your players fight portals

[faint flower]

for example my archer is still using copper armor

[tardy yew]

you'll get A LOT of class xp you need it

[faint flower]

ye

my problem is also accuracy

[tardy yew]

😠

[tardy yew]

you're speedrunning

[faint flower]

and my levels are max on the talents that give accuracy stats

[tardy yew]

get void armor for all

[faint flower]

like full

[tardy yew]

and use the upgrade stones from w5 or 4

[faint flower]

?

[tardy yew]

no just the shoes

OFC FULL YOU DUM DUM!

[tardy yew]

they have a very special effect ask others about that

it will fix your issues

[faint flower]

oke

tahnks alot one more time

now off to grind

[tardy yew]

i don't wanna see you here in 5 days

[faint flower]

in how long then?

[tardy yew]

10 days and you'll be full void

GET SALTS OR ELSE IT'LL BE A MONTH

[faint flower]

Thats why i sampled copper just a second ago

[quartz oriole]

when do i know i can start doing instant gaming?

[uneven jacinth]

do you guys collect traps via rift bonus or manually?

[bleak gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[peak verge]

Up to everyone's whims and schedules.

[fierce cargo]

With bm talent

[rustic sundial]

going to w5 town was supposed to decrease the time to grow crops?

[peak verge]

gaming plants, not farming crops

[rustic sundial]

on w4

[peak verge]

oh, that's only for when you reach 5s/instant gaming

[rustic sundial]

on w5

[peak verge]

You're far from that point.

[fierce cargo]

today is the day i finally get gcake recipe

[rustic sundial]

so when does it start to change anything

[peak verge]

Once you reach 5s/instant gaming

[rustic sundial]

how

[peak verge]

By gaming better

And faster

[rustic sundial]

how

[peak verge]

Clicking on things

[fierce cargo]

farming

[rustic sundial]

how

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-mind-control-explode-concentrate-gif-6820015702458969915

[marble lotus]

finally finished the troll set

[bleak gazelle]

theye, i linked the gaming calc like 2 posts above your question

[oak crane]

Is the more daily lamp wishes bonus broken for anyone else

[peak verge]

Bonus?

[quiet tree]

calc is slang for calculator in case you didnt know guys

[fresh barn]

can someone please explain to me how divinity xp works? I’m running mantra on all 10 characters and have a 6.6x multiplier but only got 4 xp in an hour..

[peak verge]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[fresh barn]

tyy 🙏🙏

[peak summit]

how do u get that one

[peak verge]

It's the very first superbit unlock.

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I was stalking lowgun in world 6 today

[spiral path]

I'm sure this wasn't optimal, but I don't care, I just wanted to get this bonus maxed (for now)

[stuck river]

lantern jumpscare

oh hell yeah i get 299 books

hi gold twine guy

[marble lotus]

any likely reason why my damage went down after upgrading meals? 🧩

am I the gold twine guy

[stuck river]

yes

[stuck river]

try cloudsaving

[marble lotus]

[bleak gazelle]

after talent levels it's kind of up to you on what to max, whether it be dr, nugget, or td

[solar seal]

its wednesday my dudes

[marble lotus]

still down

[gilded sedge]

[solar seal]

w e d n e s d a y

is a magical day in idleon... DR falls out of nowhere, damage mysteriously disappears...

then a beacon of light shines down in W2... and we all remember we gotta do weekly boss again

[stuck river]

oh right i forgot that

also its thursday

[solar seal]

shhh. only NA time zones exists

[stuck river]

isnt it gtc 00:00

[solar seal]

lava is west coast NA - so idleon time is west coast NA. this is the way

[stuck river]

oh

also immediately 2 new artifacts after a 2 month drought of sov lanterns

i feel like a celebrity rn /j

[marble lotus]

most of the damage is back but I'm still down compared to pre-reset 😢

[solar seal]

it should be down

last week's bonus was 35%, this week is only 20%

[bleak gazelle]

you can see how it fluctuates

[marble lotus]

oh next week is 0 damn

[gilded sedge]

Only thing that really matters is the skulls amount ong, fuck the 4 skull weeks

[solar seal]

gotta get comfortable with a range of damages that fluctuates every wed/thurs - whenever you remember to do the weekly

[bleak gazelle]

rip, accidentally double clicked one and failed my first run

[sour stream]

are the bravery rewards linear? (am i using that word right?) that after a while its less return

[sick sentinel]

Linear means it doesn't diminish. The wiki should list which rewards are and arent

[bleak gazelle]

Unsure what the cap is, same with bravery. Maybe scoli or trial will pop in

[gilded sedge]

Bravery bonuses

[bleak gazelle]

maybe if we call him

scoli scoli scolijuice

[paper sail]

[solar seal]

it actually worked. smdh

[bleak gazelle]

it worked last time too

[paper sail]

uhhh lemme see

[bleak gazelle]

i woner if you posted them in wiki channel actually

[paper sail]

I did not. I'm gonna have to calculate

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, do the thing

[paper sail]

you can watch me in realtime
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gmPBAaaOjYEQZT8Y92RHRo-HYxNF6BVP723_twm8VNc/edit?usp=sharing
Monument Buff scaling tab

[solar seal]

the insta #value! errors after expanding the sheet. i love it 😄

[paper sail]

Easier answer than I thought. They trend toward their scaling value 😛

BEFORE Cosmos Multi and Monument Bonus Multi:
Monument AFK: 50%
Bravery Bonuses: 3.5x

Artifact Find Chance: 6x
Lamp Wishes: +300%

With 2x Cosmos Multi and 3.5x Monument Bonuses multi (7x)
350% Monument AFK from each
42x Artifact Find Chance
+2100% Lamp Wishes

[paper sail]

I'm persistent, not good

[solar seal]

-# its okay. i do it all the time too.. then realize i forgot half my $

[paper sail]

I forgot half and then added it where it wasn't needed on the other half

[bleak gazelle]

how bad is the scaling on the bonus multis if they're only approaching 6x at 100k?

[bleak gazelle]

or should that ready 3x/6x for them instead?

[wooden river]

Is there a channel for account reviews? Just got to w5 today and I know what’s lacking but don’t know what to prioritize

[paper sail]

huh?

Oh right, sec

[paper sail]

I was double dipping Cosmos, my fault. The Bonuses Multi will only go to 3.5x as it is not increased by Cosmos.

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome in feel free to post your IE/IT here and usually someone is around to take a look at it (not always me)

!review Otherwise, if you haven't already, feel free to check out Scoli's wonderful auto review tool

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[wooden river]

i have checked out autoreview, idleon toolbox/efficency

[bleak gazelle]

Thanks for the math

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[wooden river]

https://arithemonkey.idleonefficiency.com/

[stuck river]

DAMN IT I NEARLY HIT A JACKPOT

[bleak gazelle]

How long ago did you start?

[wooden river]

maybe like

4-5 weeks?

idk if that's good or not but I feel like I am on solid speedrun any% pace lol

[bleak gazelle]

Seems average for now. Have you bought any gemshop packs? Maybe slightly better than average if you haven't spent anything. Dunno what the kids are up to nowadays

My own alt has been very slowly chugging along

[stuck river]

day 2 of farming lantern recipe for absolutely no reason, i put 4 chats on lanterns now since i got sprout recipe yesterday

[stuck river]

i only got autoloot pre w6

[wooden river]

F2p besides autoloot

[stuck river]

4 weeks is p good then, it took me like 2 and a half months to get to w5

[wooden river]

Yipee

[stuck river]

i was horsing around early game tbh lol

@bleak gazelle was last week ballot dr

[bleak gazelle]

uhh. maybe?

[stuck river]

i lost 0.3x dr

[bleak gazelle]

let me swap my laundry over and i'll take a look

[bleak gazelle]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[stuck river]

i already did that im not dumb

[bleak gazelle]

[terse verge]

It was

[stuck river]

got it ty

yo

[dry sluice]

Who's optimal for dragon statue farming

[wooden river]

tysm

[dry sluice]

As in, what class

[stuck river]

active sb, afk any

[dry sluice]

Oh I tried him and I thought It didn't work

[stuck river]

u just need a punderous to spawn

afk is still way more efficient and u can active something better

[dry sluice]

Ahh

[gilded sedge]

Sb and bm

[dry sluice]

Man why can't I just candy this

[stuck river]

lava!

[bleak gazelle]

active SB primarily for cards/kills
afk everyone else for statues. you'll rely on afking long enough to get guaranteed drops (use IT calculator, add in some buffer time), push MKpT to increase amount dropped

[stuck river]

next update is bm master class confirmed

[dry sluice]

Oooooooo

[bleak gazelle]

almost like there's a hole section in the guide for this
#1303761365273415700 message

[dry sluice]

I didn't care, not ES master, but still

[stuck river]

(its false info and im not sure)

[dry sluice]

We've been here long enough to know, idleon players can't read

[stuck river]

at least according to gen chat it is

[dry sluice]

Oh no

General

[stuck river]

or whatever james jenkins was cooking

[wooden river]

!weekly

[bleak gazelle]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[sick laurel]

What is best upgrade stone in world 5

Also can I get more of them because from the shop 36 a day at 33.9 chance is not a lot and a whole day is a long time to wait for more

[bleak gazelle]

Not a bad start, I'd work on

• Divinity - check out the 📌 and read through the Div guide. I'd probably put all characters (maybe keep one out) on Div to speed things up just a bit to unlock bear
• Hole - not sure if you've popped over there yet, but get things started as it's another timegated thing but only some caverns will take actual character afk. Check out the guide here #1303761365273415700
• Constellations - seems like you're pretty close to unlocking three star signs, there are quite a few in W3 you should be able to knock out right away or fairly easily. Make sure you equip 3 on all characters

Other things to work on (in world order)

• Anvil - buying points with mob mats, W1-2 fairly easy to do now for all characters
• Alchemy - aim to unlock 18th bubble across all 4 cauldrons. Work on leveling your first two bubbles to ~100/50 as a first goal, as well as any levels you can throw into your large skilling bubbles. (Pray for Sheepie companion)
• Worship - seems like you might have stopped using Charge Syphon on your ES, make sure you keep claiming with all characters. For Maestro, make sure you pop Maestro Transfusion and claim worship on whichever TD gives the most XP/charge (currently W2 for you)
• Trapping - missing a trap on last character
• Cooking - start prepping for the Diamond Chef bubble (yellow 18) by getting meals up to level 11. Unlock new meals, IE has recipes on it
• Sailing - move your boat back to the first island, you're still missing three artifacts from it which are all useful, especially Fauxory Tusk for more artifact find chance

[bleak gazelle]

W5 stones are strictly better than W4 stones so...gotta wait

[dapper prism]

you wait for w6

@teal lynx done.

lmk if anything else e.g. grinding spots

[wooden river]

Tysm

[dapper prism]

Ahh it's you who used my images >:)

[bleak gazelle]

Gotta try and get people to read in here, ya know?

[wooden river]

I just got to w5 this morning but;

• most chars are doing divinity
• started hole
• will do constellations when i get daily tps back
• i still use charge syphon, just not every 4k s like J should be
• i didn’t notice the trap tyty

Also now that I have divinity unlocked I realize why doot pet is so disgusting

[bleak gazelle]

Oh, i think your last character is also missing a cardset, granted not that it matters while on div

[wooden river]

For now tho I’m gonna hard focus div since I’m behind on lab and then I can just

Do both at the same time

[bleak gazelle]

Scoli, biggie isn't a cardset

Though maybe you should try and get a Biggie Hours card

either through killing him via eyes or doing a bit of W2 colo

[wooden river]

Speaking of colo

Is there any way to get more colo tickets besides dailies? I know post office but it’s stupid rare iirc

[edgy shoal]

I know occido keeps telling people to not waste colo tickets

[dapper prism]

What's that word, people to what?

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-math-school-asia-study-gif-18879119

[lilac vapor]

I hate the reaper. Ended my good run asking for 61 coins

[cyan mantle]

But I am reaper

[bleak gazelle]

Unfortunately not beyond the 3/day from the quests, unless you want to gamble on PO6. Think it's like a 1/300 rate now? But doing a bit to get the Biggie card wouldn't be bad. Otherwise use the recipe to craft eyes and kill him that way

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle have main active at frogs now for a few hours can kill 3.6m a hour there

[sick laurel]

Should I push through w5 with ES or Bubo

[marsh gust]

.5% chance baby lets go

[snow obsidian]

Stop neglecting alchemy damn

[wooden river]

Bro I’m trying 😭 i started like 5 weeks ago tops

[snow obsidian]

Ohhh nvm then 🙏

[bleak gazelle]

ES should have an easier time

[fickle lake]

unlock equinox

@bleak gazelle https://ruleoutlaw.idleonefficiency.com/ judge my account i started 2 mths ago

[bleak gazelle]

Man, doot really carrys hard

[fickle lake]

560 sgd

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, that's about average in USD

[fickle lake]

max pity kek

[fickle lake]

any critiques aside from keys and alchemy and gear

[bleak gazelle]

• Fix your star signs, cards, and cardsets for Lab folks
• Spend your po boxes
• Why/how is your VMan higher construction level than DKs?
• Buy your anvil points
• Missing one trap on VMan
• Change div style on first BB
• Level your shrine buildings
• Finish up salt lick (at least mice)
• Level up boats

[fickle lake]

i have po boxes?
Vman higher construction level i have no clue either

[bleak gazelle]

unless you spent them in the last 4 hours

[fickle lake]

no as in i have po boxes? Ive been saving up silver pens though?

[bleak gazelle]

this auto gives you boxes

these four characters have 800+ boxes to spend

first BB has 500, too

[fickle lake]

oml

[fickle lake]

is my cooking and chow fine?

also im having problems with sailing cant get enough mats and artifacts

[bleak gazelle]

Should finish off you W3-5 constellations
Cooking meals are fine for now but you've got plenty of s/chow to work on

[fickle lake]

yeh ive realised that too late that only my 2nd bb can chow

[fickle lake]

when should i focus on sigils?

[bleak gazelle]

I'd at least get the first W6 bubbles before spending any time on them

You've got got enough sailing mats that the last W5 bubbles should be a pretty good damage increase

[fickle lake]

So do i put all my characters on a cauldron or leave it as it is some on liquids and some on cauldron to upgrade bubbles

[bleak gazelle]

The further you progress in Summoning, the more sigil speed, you'll get, too

Can't see your spread on IE, but up to you I don't think you can hourly print anything yet, so can always put 8 into color and 2 into liquid

Ahh, well, actually, I guess your costs are low enough that you can probably hourly click some stuff

[fickle lake]

mk

[fickle lake]

rn i have no sense of directions atm, im working on mostly alchemy> construction >skilling > TD > gear > pushing w6

i need more talent points

[bleak gazelle]

25 points waiting in dungeon

[fickle lake]

i need like 900 for bubo

[bleak gazelle]

where's your print?

[fickle lake]

Will do it when i get the upgraded vman glove

ig working on greenstack is also a good priority

[fiery ledge]

Need guide on damage my is 24.7m

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[fiery ledge]

Well I am working on it for the equinox and lab bonuses

[olive nacelle]

is renewing worth it?

[bleak gazelle]

When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can see the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.

[stoic barn]

mm 1000% dmg for all characters

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/anne-but-god-at-what-cost-gif-11532379

[olive nacelle]

suss

[stoic barn]

my bank account

[devout peak]

what do you guys think is the best option from the giftmas shop?

[bleak gazelle]

villager/afk > ballot/printer for most folks here

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle from yesterday

Not done it today yet

[bleak gazelle]

yuge

make sure you claim any bravery hours and spend harp notes if you can

[pastel kayak]

Got none it it 2 are catching bugs in the hole have few alts in world 6 one or 2 alts fishing main in world 1 active cause not that hot here today

[dusky warren]

do i need to do smth to drop w5 amulet or im just that unlucky? dropped several obols and capes, but no damn amulet

[lunar wyvern]

Anyone know how can i spend the cosmic balls?

[dusky warren]

max the golden one first

[lunar wyvern]

That one has to be maxed?

[bleak gazelle]

more DR

[dusky warren]

X.X im stuck at 23%

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, the bonus must be maxed and you need to spend 5 cosmics to upgrade it

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle if I buy balls fro gem shop will they come back when use them?

[solar seal]

just so you don't get confused. desi's response wasn't about maxing that specific one. you need to max any singular arcade bonus to level 100 using gold balls before you are given option to upgrade it using blue balls

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle after today

[faint wigeon]

damn though these were extinct for a moment

[digital lava]

So Goharut's major bonus is just definitively better than Arctus's major bonus, if you're going to keep your characters in one of the two anyways?

[fickle lake]

yes

[digital lava]

So I only recently unlocked W5, I just unlocked Arctis. I haven't unlocked the following divines yet.

Should I link all my labbing/diving characters to Arctis right now, or hold off and wait until I get Goharut and do that one?

[bleak gazelle]

Links aren't permanent, so go ahead and link to bear

[digital lava]

There's like a 1 week cooldown before being able to switch right?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, but you get 2 per week and each unlink can apply to all characters

[fickle lake]

when you unlock a new god you also get unlink

[bleak gazelle]

You also get a free unlink when you unlock a new god

You also have access to Pocket Divinity once you get there in the Hole

[digital lava]

Oh so if I link to Arctis now, then unlock Goharut tomorrow, I can immediately unlink all my characters and have them switch to Goharut, without waiting a full week?

[fickle lake]

yes

[digital lava]

Sweet

What's the hole? Is that the new W5 caverns thingy?

[fickle lake]

ye, its provides quite a substantial buff

[bleak gazelle]

you've been in w5 long enough to get arctis and unlock goat tomorrow and haven't linked anyone?

[fickle lake]

imagine if bager major link is just allows you to link to all gods making doot useless

[digital lava]

I've been on W5 for less than a day XD

I don't know if I'll unlock goat tomorrow, was hypothetical

[fickle lake]

if its 50/50 dont do it… if your luck is as bad as mine 17 50/50 losts

[bleak gazelle]

that's some very optimistic thinking

[fickle lake]

is there any point in divinity after unlocking bajar?

[digital lava]

I think I'ma do the low category until I get 100% in the high category

[bleak gazelle]

yes, last jade emporium and ES talent give bonuses based on god rank

[stuck river]

thats the strat yes

[digital lava]

What's a good set of 2 gods to have on your ES? And a good god distribution over characters in general

[fickle lake]

Most ppl without doot run, Harriep and 1 Purrmep and then for hole that allows you to link 2 usually Gohart+ Snehabatu. Though Omniphau is also rlly strong

[digital lava]

TranQi explicitly mentions "even when not meditating". Does Mantra's "for ALL characters" only apply to characters who are meditating? Or they still get the +1 Divinity EXP even when the other characters are doing other tasks?

[fickle lake]

Yeh tranq allows you to gain divinity exp when not meditating and while your on smth else, Mantra applies to all that are and not meditating

[digital lava]

Two questions.

• So say my Warrior is on Mantra, but they're out pushing. They won't be getting divinity exp cuz they're not meditating? Or they will cuz Mantra still gives some divinity exp to them?
• My mage is on TranQi, so they ge +3 Divinity Exp even when not meditating, they're not medidtating rn picking flowers who knows. But Warrior has +1 Divinity Exp for all, so they get more than +3 Divinity Exp at a time right? Mantra buffs the Exp Gain from TranQi?

[fickle lake]

Ok i see the confusion, the person equipped to mantra need to be meditating to give 1 exp to all characters, When your mage is out doing genocide and is equipped to tranq while another character that is equipped to mantra and is meditating your mage will gain +4 exp x (whatever multiplier you have later on)

[digital lava]

Thank you so much for clearing that up XD

Why doe this guide recommend multiple of 10's for ES's skilling build? Won't that put them as linked to Bagur the 10th god?

Ah I see now, the first divine is at 0 (technically) but needs to start at 10

[fickle lake]

👍

[empty wharf]

My main ES is Nobisect main. killing preset (arctis poly) & skilling on (goat). My 2nd ES is purrmep main with same poly. Pocket gods are harriep+Omni. Others are goat/arctis main depends on what they do.

[digital lava]

Smart, thanks

[empty wharf]

When resampling change pocket god to sneb. And if u want to candy death notes change pocket into nobisect that's if that character is using arctis/goat.

[digital lava]

I'm assuming all of this becomes irrelevant once you unlock the Doot companion?

[empty wharf]

Yep.

[digital lava]

Gotcha. The having to switch and switch-back for resampling part is where it finally feels like too much to micromanage XD

[empty wharf]

Yep just don't forget to return to Omni when changing to another character to juice up that bonus.

[digital lava]

Is there optimal constellations and stuff for accumulating Divine Exp?

I know that "% Skill Exp Gain" doesn't affect Lab, but "% Skill AFK Gain" affects how much Lab Exp you get. What about for Divinity?

[fickle lake]

U still need to link 1 char to purrmep even with doot

[fickle lake]

its the same with divinity, ever noticed that if you sit online for an hr in the lab (pls dont do that its a waste) your exp never goes up? Its the same with divinity

[digital lava]

Yeah I never active in the Lab XD

Thanks for the confirmation, so no point in using Skill Exp Gain in lab

[empty wharf]

Just the % to double exp gain.

[fickle lake]

Im not sure if you have this but lab shoes gives lab efficiency which give more exp

[digital lava]

Don't have them yet =/ Only the card affect for more lab exp

[fickle lake]

they are from w4 mobs if you want to get them

[digital lava]

So all my characters share the same Sailing and Breeding level right?

Same with Gaming and Cooking?

[faint wigeon]

gaming, sailing and breeding yes

then in w6 2 skill lvl and xp are shared again

[gilded elk]

Trust this advice: don't sit all your characters in divinity. Have 1 main pusher until you reach the hole (others can be in altar if you want). Once you reach hole and unlock the 4th cavern (which happens very fast), set all your characters to bravery (and, later on, justice on C10), it will pay much higher dividends than divinity. You can "finish" divinity later on with far faaaaar fewer effort.

[stuck river]

I need to do a new speedrun im 6 points short for booked blood marrow

293/299

[cyan mantle]

Hi

[pastel kayak]

Hello evil reaper alert @cyan mantle

[cyan mantle]

No

[pastel kayak]

@cyan mantle my main now

[cyan mantle]

I think my second es does more damage

Yeah he does

And he's rocking dementia armour

[stable temple]

Cooking no

[pastel kayak]

Trying to get it up

[terse mica]

what boost bravery damage outside of measurer and time? I’m at 5k hours with 150k base damage without sword boosting and i think I’m missing something

ah maybe it’s my overall skill level that is low

mh

[digital lava]

So if I'm just starting out on gaming, and already have these 4 unlocked and check back frequently. Should I just collect the plants as soon as I get them? Or let them grow out still?

[random dune]

anyone know about how much defense I need to active at tremor worms

[stuck river]

Hello besto friendo

[stuck river]

Collect asap

[stuck river]

Im gonna hit you with the "my vman does more damage naked"

[sharp bobcat]

yo what upgrade should I go for in bravery?

[random dune]

opal bucket fill villager exp

[stuck river]

Tldr stuff that you need, opals whenever you can

[digital lava]

At what map do I unlock the Caverns?

[sharp bobcat]

aight ty

[stuck river]

Map 3, the thermister cheap knockoff map

[cyan mantle]

[stuck river]

You crashed my discord

[cyan mantle]

My happiness crashed it

[stuck river]

Erm what de suggma

[zinc torrent]

?

[faint wigeon]

no bobjoepickle vial level 2?

sacrilegeous

[stuck river]

I specialize in forgetting to buy bjps

Im halfway there dw

[gaunt galleon]

Which class do you all use for pushing 100m mob kills?

[stable parrot]

If your referring to 100M kills for chow, that’s BB, if you mean 1000M kills aka eclipse skulls that’s something everyone (not vman) can do

[gaunt galleon]

Ah yea I was referring to (eclipse) skulls.
I am trying to increase my multikill % for vman so I can get those insane speedrun mob prints for my vials

[stable parrot]

Okay yea, sb is best but you can have everyone work on em

[paper sail]

BB first, then usually SB to finish

BB first meaning get your super Chow

[gaunt galleon]

Is super Chow different from the regular Apocalypse Chow as shown in the talent skills?

[paper sail]

Yes. Unlocked by vman enhancement eclipse talent

[stable parrot]

Gives cooking speed

[paper sail]

100k zow for damage
1m Chow for cooking efficiency
100m Super Chow for cooking speed

[warm holly]

+1 opal or unlock the next wish?

[stable parrot]

Opal, the next upgrade is mid

[warm holly]

thanks arctis

[paper sail]

I like the w4 wish personally. I put enough wishes in for 300% shiny speed

[stable parrot]

Isn’t it just the engi discount?

[teal lynx]

The next upgrade might be "mid", but the following ones are super good
And 13 wishes for an opal is really steep

[stable parrot]

What’s your wishes per day ram?

[teal lynx]

And it's the W4 wish... That's a good one

[paper sail]

I'd still buy that Opal first though

[teal lynx]

You can't do this to me Scoli

[stable parrot]

W4 wish is good but price to unlock is a bit high, so if not much production, I’d say get Opal and focus on wish speed and come back later with more to get it

[paper sail]

I like Opal

Opal pretty

[teal lynx]

I haven't even bought more than 2 -> Buy opals if you get to a multiple of 10 I would say

[stable parrot]

Shinie

I’d rather get an Opal now and then wait than get something useless now and wait a little bit less

[teal lynx]

Since this is World 5 chat... the average amount of wishes will probably (I hope I'm correct) not exceed 3 per day -> That's over 4 days of waiting for a single opal or the W4 wish, which would help with some shiny bonuses and a bit of cooking

[warm holly]

sorry my wishes per day is like 1.08

[stable parrot]

[warm holly]

we out here strugglin

[stable parrot]

Go work on that

Don’t need to touch lamp rn really

[warm holly]

i got like 15 things on my idleon plate lol

but yeah I gotta work on that

[stable parrot]

You can get an Opal if you reeeeeeaaaly need, but that’ll also work nicely as a reset for stuff in case you need one or 2

[warm holly]

(All my 50 opals sans like ~5 are in the explorer rn, 2mil xp from unlocking justice monument, which kinda explains why wishes are lacking )

[stable parrot]

I detect a bad measurerer

If you haven’t finished pushing to w6, do that first and foremost

[warm holly]

yeah ive been in w6 for like 1.5 weeks now

hell yeah

[peak verge]

huge

How's tentacleye treating you? Getting to 200 now that you have ancient?

[craggy wadi]

Me love cookin'

But what is the "Chance for bravery opal"?

[peak verge]

When a reward shows up to pick from in Bravery, the chance for it to be "+1 opal"

in za boxes

[craggy wadi]

Well i shouldn't pick that up

[peak verge]

It's good to have some levels early but it falls off hard after a while

[craggy wadi]

Me want cookin'

[peak verge]

villager xp > bucket fill rate > gaming/mining > the rest

Cooking was easy to do even before the bonus from bravery, so you're probably lacking in other aspects in regards to it.

[craggy wadi]

It really boosted mine tho

[junior dune]

Eh getting a few hundred levels in cooking is probably a great idea if you still need it

[peak verge]

It helps since it's a new multiplier but it shouldn't be the only thing to rely on, given that the alternatives you can choose from are generally more helpful.

Check your chows, your summoning, farming, the such. Should get you to lvl 60-70 cooking before having to spend ladles or relying on NMLB.

[warm holly]

already had it at 200 with just the regular fury relic (hit a lucky 180 from the bookshelf), now I have no idea what to checkout I think the vman bonues look tempting

[craggy wadi]

Chows = 0
Summoning = no existant
Crops = same as summoning
Sneaking = basically i'm not in w6

[peak verge]

Marrow and Statues (if you started on onyx) are always the beezknees. Otherwise you go back and check all your skilling talents, those are gonna take a lot to book.

Also cranium cooking and the other bubo stuff naturally.

[peak verge]

Then don't worry about boosting your cooking just yet. Focus on improving villager xp and bucket fill rate to help you progress through the hole faster. Level your cooking speed meals accordingly (egg,corndog,cabbage etc.), all meals to lvl 11 if you have Diamond Chef and then all to lvl 30.

[warm holly]

tentacle eye also gets significantly better the more points you put into it right? (even after the 200 pt breakpoint)

[peak verge]

Iirc the next breakpoint is at like 400 talent level, so dw about it.

[warm holly]

gotcha, thanks m8

[peak verge]

The aura however gets buffed every... 35 levels I think? So that's good to cover the whole map. @warm holly

[craggy wadi]

I'm cooking corndog rn

[warm holly]

good thinking almost forgot about that

[peak verge]

Also naturally all these since you're gonna need them on the combat preset once you actively do CC but it might be early.

[warm holly]

just wasted all my books getting this though so might have to wait

[peak verge]

1 level off another buff

[warm holly]

my bubo's made it to tremor worms and can basically one shot them, but also gets one shot by crystal mobs that spawn there very close to coming online fully though

[peak verge]

Ok you're extremely early on cooking so dw about it for now. Egg, Corndog, Cabbage, Diamond Chef unlocked, all meals to lvl 11 should be your priority. See if you can't unlock more meals with breeding in the meantime.

[peak verge]

Yep, that's the default experience.

Grab some red pots, grab some food, maybe book a hp/def talent if needed, get buffed from other sources and it's gonna be fine.

Unless you're somehow extremely behind on unlocking new bubbles and the such, I wouldn't worry too much about CC until you have some progress through W6.

[craggy wadi]

What's Diamond chef ?

[warm holly]

Im basically gated by materials for bubbles rn yeah

so currently pushing w6 a bit (with my bubo actually)

[peak verge]

Christ you might be too far ahead with new bubbles lmao

[craggy wadi]

Yeah i don't have it

[warm holly]

yeah those new ones I cant even purchase

[peak verge]

Which?

[warm holly]

Like this I imagine will be a huge buff, but im nowhere near 30mil boat speed lol

[peak verge]

The trifecta of bubbles are massive dmg buffs yeah.

None of your boats even close to 30m?

[warm holly]

slowly but surely

I think once I find a really nice double speed captain Ill be pretty close

[peak verge]

Realistically, your first boat should be the fastest on account of the ease of leveling.

[warm holly]

yeah that is my first

[peak verge]

How's the god blessings?

[warm holly]

(also a really nice trade offer will probably be enough to bump the boat's speed up)

on bagur

[peak verge]

The blessings.

[warm holly]

(need to upgrade the boat speed blessings a bit though)

[tight pilot]

ok genuine question whats a good mining eff amount for mid game

[peak verge]

Different question, what do you think is mid game?

[tight pilot]

w6 last map unlocked

anything before is early game

[peak verge]

Ok so it checks out.

Ngl I can't really tell you based on mining eff per se, but your copper prints should be a good indication.

[peak verge]

Don't sleep on the island 4 tablet. Alternatively, you might be at the point where you need to unlock eldritch artifacts from rift.

[tight pilot]

5.5b i get print should be somewhere between 5.2b to 4.9b i aint gonna print got a relic streak of 8.6x

[warm holly]

anciented yeah, and I really need to work on my rift tbh

[peak verge]

Rift will range between "mowing down like 8 challenges in 5 minutes" and "for fuck's sake I need to afk 5M again"

[peak verge]

That's the expected progress tbh.

[tight pilot]

a 10 min or 1 hr job technically

[peak verge]

@solar drift Ayo can you give the man some tips?

[peak verge]

Good point. @warm holly You can afk a lot of characters in rift and then claim progress once you have a "kill a fuckton while afk" challenge to complete stuff instantly. Pre-farming if you will.

[warm holly]

genius tech

[peak verge]

It's still gonna suck based on the state of neglect of your other afk heavy characters (SB,BB) but hey... it's a start.

[warm holly]

they're all 250 atleast

but still need some lovin

[tight pilot]

i dont really need to cuz i do 130q dmg on mk setup so id say get more mk stats on ur afk chars

[peak verge]

The stats/gear/talents, not the class level. Class level is pretty much worthless.

[tight pilot]

non existent shit
a guy higher lvl then my bubo barely had 1/10th of my stats

[peak verge]

Yep.

[peak verge]

This is the usual afk kill farm setup, see what you can get (cards, food, prayers mostly) and godspeed.

[tight pilot]

i should go get that wings

[peak verge]

Weren't those the whale wings?

[tight pilot]

and the sov emperor

[peak verge]

Unless you gamble for random wings.

[tight pilot]

i think so

[cyan mantle]

Hi

[tight pilot]

bye

[cyan mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/muppet-show-muppets-beverly-sills-fozzie-bear-yank-gif-1765718158727676567

[bitter echo]

so now im slowly gettin through w5 im considering getting some cards, for skilling cards does skilling efficiency affect card rate? cause considering farming cards on my maestro whilst also catching his xp up to get him rank 1 on the skills

[peak verge]

I think card drop rate and regular drop rate take priority over skill efficiency if all you wanna do is farm cards.

But imo it's way too early to farm cards. Later on you can just candy and get like 80 cards out of 1hr candy.

[bitter echo]

fair enough, honestly it was just this one i was really eyeing as i feel like itd be a big upgrade

[peak verge]

No skill mastery unlocked?

[bitter echo]

ive done my 20 greenstacks equinox now so ive gone back to printing best things i can for atom collider

skill mastery?

[peak verge]

You unlocked Rift?

[bitter echo]

oh not yet, should i go do that?

mid w5 right now but my dps is starting to slow down on the push

[peak verge]

Yeah, you might wanna slow down a little and focus on getting buffed from other sources. You'll need 30M damage for the boss anyways. (on ES/DK)

[bitter echo]

well im near 30m on the max end of things

just got chizoar helm recipe unlocked today, but salts were eating my void bars so i dont have the 1k yet to make it

[peak verge]

Lvl 300 is a hell of a drug.

[bitter echo]

Oh my god, no more preset juggling

i need that right now

[peak verge]

It's still preset juggling but you won't need to change cards. You'll always have the same cards for skilling efficiency.

[peak verge]

Where exactly are you in W5? What map?

[bitter echo]

the one that you get the material for atom collider, purgatory stalkers

[peak verge]

Who are you pushing with?

[bitter echo]

ES

[peak verge]

How are you only lvl 205 that far into W5?

https://tenor.com/view/reload-cat-loading-buffering-kitty-gif-17184357

[bitter echo]

no idea, as you can see my class xp right there is 5.76x, this is just the result of that

[peak verge]

Most people end up between lvl 250-300 by the time they reach the W5 boss.

Also go get your proper scarf.

[bitter echo]

right thats an easy one i guess i should go do some chaotic

[peak verge]

Technically your DPS is fine and the last push to the boss tends to slow down so you just gotta hang in there. Worst case, swap to afk fight gear and candy your way forward.

How's your multikill?

[bitter echo]

is there anywhere i can check multikill total? as the afk info doesnt show it due to me not having multikill on the current monsters

ive got the standard lab+nobi for pushing so that bits setup