lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fleet nexus]

How do you get level 2 on poket divinity in the village bonuses

[dreamy merlin]

the third thing in the villager bonus section gives the option to enchance other things

[fleet nexus]

Ok thanks

[unkempt fable]

how valuable is the log flipper activity after I've hit 5 sec gaming? it feels like a less reliable chemical plant that takes extra long to harvest

[simple wadi]

Not very. Most people ignore it.

[unkempt fable]

so at that point the chem cycle would be shovel -> squirrel -> harvest all -> sprinkler -> repeat last 2 steps until sprinkler is empty -> chem -> restart, correct?

*and stop when I'm down to 1 chem, switch to 5 sec harvests until I have a 2nd

[proud pumice]

yes. but if you're in w5 town in insta gaming, you skip the sprinkler

[unkempt fable]

i'm not going to be there for a while but that's good to know too. thanks!

[sly cedar]

anyone know how long it is likely to be until the 5x arcade gold balls bonus ends? as in how many hours from now?

[quasi atlas]

Its gonna be active until reset i think

[silent birch]

i assume the p behind a card means its passive right?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah it's different cause it's for the cards made passive through skill mastery

[silent birch]

how did i make those passive then? i assume rift

because i did a lot of that today

[sick sentinel]

Yep rift skill mastery bonus

[silent birch]

ahhh, and every skill i reach a certain skill in turns cards passive

well, that is weird

[last tulip]

is tehre only 56 schematics in the hole? engineer at lvl 18

tyty

[simple wadi]

Explorer - 10
Engineer - 18
Measurer - 10.

[last tulip]

sweet done with that now, timet to invest all in conj

[mighty rover]

On the renewing bell does it clear to the right and/or below

[languid mist]

Is Harriep a guarantted drop of some sort? I just unlocked it with a 1% offering.

[sick sentinel]

Nope just good rng

[languid mist]

sheesh

[sturdy canopy]

Anyone got a guide for the justice thingy?

[mighty rover]

Alternatively you can save and do the 25%

[sick sentinel]

Only the bell ring stuff like the bucket fill, harp note gaisn stuff. Not the unlocked upgrades from cleaning the bell

[languid mist]

I'm spending my points on the 1% drops until I get the guaranteed 100% ones. I think I read somewhere this was the most efficient way of doing it but I think I have to change it up now that the Goat is next.

[sick sentinel]

Nah left all the way

[languid mist]

I wasn't expecting to get this far so fast so I didn't read through the entirety of the guides I found.

[wicked monolith]

So, this is the best way to earn opals, right? I mean, I've just gotten into W5.

[mighty rover]

I've gone weeks failing but when I did the middle I got it

[mighty rover]

It gets harder lots harder

[wicked monolith]

Ah! Well, that's the way games go 😄

But at the minute, this is going to be the drive for me, right?

[tiny lantern]

in the hole, is the last level for engineer 17 or is there now 18, I feel like I remember seeing something about a schematic being added alongside justice monument but I don't remember if it was added to a previous layer level or a whole new level was added

[frail vigil]

I think that when he said "gets way harder" you underestimate. I think after about ~8 or 9 of them you're well into the millions of efficiency required

[wild osprey]

what is considered best class for money farming?

i assume sb because pirate flag but have no clue if that actualyl affects money drops

[sick sentinel]

Dk or bubo depending on different points of an account

[wild osprey]

also if im active farming for money do i actually want to farm on map with this the highest or do i want to farm on a map where i can easily kill enhanced mobs

depending on what?

[sick sentinel]

The bulk of money comes from crystals, but you'll need to do your own testing. Probably mostly max talent levels, but also speed of killing mobs so you can spawn more crystals

Best maps in w5 would be wurms then citringes

If dmg holds you back for wurms you can try to go to citringe and it could be better

[wild osprey]

so cards would be mix of money % crystal spawns and dr?

[sick sentinel]

Doubled slots for crystal spawn, drop rate to an odd number, then fill money yeah

[simple wadi]

He didn't add a new schematic to 18. He moved a schematic (8th bucket) from 17 to 18. So if you have the 8th bucket already from before the move, you're done with engineer.

[wild osprey]

my bubo has used this hat until lvl 400.. finally giving it the high priest hat

[digital lava]

So I'm near-W5 but haven't hit it yet. What are your guys opinions on these two boons, which is a bigger priority? Is there an obvious consensus or is there a decent amount of people on both sides?

[simple wadi]

I'd suggest villager exp. At end game, printer output is just for atoms, and the atom collider loses a lot of its importance.

[digital lava]

Does that basically mean, at endgame, if I ever need more of something (for regular use not greenstack), I can just have one of my characters switch to printing it for an hour, then switch back and basically never have to worry about printable monster drops or skill drops?

[simple wadi]

Pretty much. I'm not even that stronk of an account, and can print 300k/hour of W6 materials. Which can net me 1 billion in only a couple of days.

Most people's printers just print billions of logs, flies, and copper these days, lol

[digital lava]

I'm assuming for the skills that scale with how much of an item you have? lol

[simple wadi]

Nope, atoms. I get about a million atoms a day.

[bleak gazelle]

yeehaw

[simple wadi]

Collider gets expensive, haha

Congrats Ace!

[drowsy rivet]

im doing sovereign artifacts and im onto some of the last 10 and i dont really care about them should i skip to the lanterns

[simple wadi]

Do whatever you want. If the bonuses aren't important to you, why get them?

[drowsy rivet]

i didnt know if there was a bonus that i forgot that gave arti chance for more artifacts or smthing like that

[sick sentinel]

The lanterns are some of the strongest anyway and have decent find chance since there are multiple so I would do that

[golden wing]

Honestly do whatever as long as you do one.

[wild osprey]

how much would be enough damage for citringe/wurms? do i want enough to one shot them at the minimum?

[crimson thistle]

oneshotting with poison is the goal

[wild osprey]

highest i can get my damage without damage cards and i at best 2 shot the citrange with poison

should i be doing it on a earlier mob or is that ok for now

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle main now

[rugged token]

[wild osprey]

should raise dead be in first slot? i have it in third but its not activating

[solar seal]

cc - raise dead - aura - fart - (optional: canister on big maps) -- remove everything else

[sick sentinel]

some maps i do like cans on like samurai in w6

[wild osprey]

i thought the fart doesnt do anything if they arent poisoned though? so why would the canisters be optional, not questioning your advice just wanna know how it works

[sick sentinel]

Fart ghosts drop clouds too. Their damage is based on the level of the cannisters talent, but cans doesn't need to be equipped to the attack bar

[wild osprey]

oh ok

[solar seal]

canister is optional on a good map cause it requires an auto attack which means your bubo won't be doing anythign until it gets in range of the target. but it still has its uses (and needs to be leveled anyways for fart)

raise dead / aura / fart can activate w/o a target which allows bubo to cycle is skills quickly (given enough tenteyecle procs)

[crimson thistle]

what was the card setup for active dragon statue farming?

[solar seal]

you don't active dragons for statues, thats only for cards. you afk for statues

AFK - max out your DR, mk/t

[sacred knot]

I just learned you can refresh PO with pens after completing orders 😢

[wild osprey]

ty! one last question, do skills bars 2 and 3 interfere with that cycle at all? it felt like they were but could just me

[wild osprey]

was gonna say you made it this far without noticing? but ive had stuff like that too,

[solar seal]

curious what you thought pens were for, if not refreshing orders

[wild osprey]

took me forever to notice the quick button in shop

[solar seal]

i won't shame you for it, but activating a pen in the po box ui tells you that you can refresh an order 🙂

[sacred knot]

yeah I thought it was like if you can't do one then you reroll

And then I saw the chance to consume a pen for a box passive and i was like "Oh that's how you use pens"

Nothing wrong with being a little silly imo

[marble lotus]

which stamp should I use the stamp discounts for? crystallin?

[forest wave]

Has anyone run into a situation where they can do 5 second gaming outside world 5 town, but 1 second gaming in world 5 town is slower? I'm not really complaining since I can progress faster, but I've always thought that world 5 town is universally faster for gaming progression once you can do 5 second gaming. My base growth rate is only 1.8

e.g. outside world 5 town: 20 plants in 5 second refresh
inside world 5 town: 1-2 plants in 5 second refresh

[forest wave]

I think most of what I've seen recommended is to level up your skilling efficiency (multitool) and cooking (ladel) to 200 first

[peak verge]

Mason Jar should be top prio realistically. Then you have Matty, Crystallin, Gold Food, Multitool, DR, Ladle and other capacity bags.

[velvet hedge]

Anyone got the w5 recommended gear screenshot? Couldn't find it pinned here

[bleak gazelle]

Gaming ticks at 5 seconds outside of W5 town. If you're at instant gaming speeds, you can only do this inside W5 town

[peak verge]

Do !gear in #bot-commands

[jade fossil]

void/chiz armor with Deuscythe/Shark Sword (Lustre Melee)

Caustic Chizoar Scarf

this what I know

[forest wave]

I get that, but shouldn't I still see the same growth whether I'm in world 5 town or not? Just at 5 second refresh increments outside of world 5 town and at 1 tick refresh increments inside world 5 town?

[peak summit]

what's the highest plant evolution you can have in gaming?

[open mountain]

8

[bleak gazelle]

If you're not at instant gaming speeds, 5 second gaming breaks in-town because the ticks are occurring at 1s intervals, so it's giving you your "actual" gaming speed (not W6 farming buff doesn't factor into your shown value on Fertilizer tab)...at least that's how I understand it. Someone like Xayah or Corndag could probably give you a better rundown

[peak summit]

8?? i've never seen past 5 on all of them

[bleak gazelle]

Get more speed and don't worry about them for now

[peak summit]

oh wow wth

[bleak gazelle]

yeehaw. maybe i can get one more cosmic today...

or not

just a green, cool

[forest wave]

alright - well at least I can start my grind to 90Q

thanks!

[bleak gazelle]

You can also use this calc to see how long you'd need to wait for a t6-8
Or how many chems it'd roughly take
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[peak summit]

wtf?

so then how are people getting tier 8

[rugged token]

Time and dedication with a lot of speed

[forest wave]

What's the point of going for T8s?

[peak summit]

more bits %

[rugged token]

There is a Page 2 of super bits planned eventually so preparing for that as well as completionism

[bleak gazelle]

that's also just raw hours if you're waiting. this is mostly done by clicking chem plants, like this far right column says

[fickle lake]

@faint wigeon is this an ok pace for cooking?

[junior arrow]

try not to compare to others too much, as long as you are doing better then you were last time you checked, your on the right path

[golden wing]

Is it still 5x gold balls?

[rugged token]

For around 20 ish hours yes

[stuck river]

Gm chat

[pastel kayak]

Do I need make new gear for main yet or make for alts?

[stuck river]

Ur staying on kruk for a long time before you can afford godshard, make kruk for alts

[pastel kayak]

I can make first set of gear in last tab but need more of the bars that I am making

[stuck river]

That gear is bad

[turbid plaza]

Just crafted 10 dreadnought skulls

100k nullo down the drain

[crimson thistle]

nice

[stuck river]

I appear to have 100k nullo but I cba

[sweet nebula]

Did you forget to do it on your archer with the talents 🤣

And post office maxed

[undone wagon]

I bet that post office is maxed long time ago

[turbid plaza]

Nah, i just autocrafted on each individual character

Is the bonus even that good?

[sweet nebula]

maxed out you can get ike +6-23 main stat and an extra upgrade stone slot

random main stat**

[turbid plaza]

Oh that’s pretty good

I’ll do it when I craft next tier of skulls

[sweet nebula]

yea post office is better

a full stone is pretty nice

[rich stratus]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[proven parrot]

anyone elses game freeze when claiming the one white circle plant in gaming

[crimson thistle]

+500k not bad

[solar drift]

how can i recover

[bleak gazelle]

cry

[fierce cargo]

do these not have their own traps

[sand kettle]

royal traps are the last one iirc (the golden)

[shrewd vault]

I have the you can rethrow 5 swords per story but it just auto ended and failed me without even letting me rethrow one? how does it work?

[faint wigeon]

you can only rethrow your last sword, so throw one by one not all at once to see if there's a sword dmg you want to rethrow

[shrewd vault]

ah gotcha, thank you

[dusky sapphire]

What Xmas bonus should I get first with points?

[proud pumice]

right now afk and hole are deemed better than printer and ballot

[dusky sapphire]

Cool, good to know. Thank you

[brave fable]

is there a point in saving chem plants if im not close to the equinox dream

[bleak gazelle]

it'll save progress if you click the mirror. so up to you if you want to use them to now to speed up gaming or try and save

[brave fable]

what mirror

[bleak gazelle]

equinox mirror

[brave fable]

oh ok ill just save them until 15

[empty wharf]

Where to get the final critter?

[faint wigeon]

jade emporium

[stable temple]

You find it after you complete the sneaking tower

[empty wharf]

Thanks

[spiral path]

well, that sucks

[wooden whale]

Anyone know why the harp is suddenly not giving notes? Going for maybe two days now.

[spiral path]

what string are you using?

[wooden whale]

E. Does that make a difference?

[spiral path]

yes, E doesn't give notes

[bleak gazelle]

have you read them?

[spiral path]

just levels up and gets you more charge per time

only strings that say they give notes... give notes

[wooden whale]

I have read them, "Doesn't do anything" isn't vague. I didn't realize it meant a string doesn't give notes.

[dreamy merlin]

not every string gives notes

[wooden whale]

Why would any string not give notes? That defies common sense, which is probably why i didn't realize it.

[spiral path]

D, E, and G don't give notes

[bleak gazelle]

G, too

[dreamy merlin]

c f and a are the only note giving strings

[spiral path]

meant G instead of F

[wooden whale]

GeFeBW just said F...

[dreamy merlin]

and he was wrong

[wooden whale]

Well good to know. Thanks.

[spiral path]

I was typing too fast!

[dreamy merlin]

[spiral path]

I'm also kind of an idiot and everything I say must be taken with a grain of salt

oh, and English isn't my native language, so I might make mistakes... very often

[bleak gazelle]

honestly, couldn't really tell

[spiral path]

I'm one of them foreigners taking yer jorbs. So if anybody wants to replace me as an electrical engineer and take the job back, just let me know and I'll leave the key in an envelope for you...

Please?

Actually, I kinda like the money... Let's wait until after the Christmas bonus, if there even is one this year...

[faint wigeon]

lol

[spiral path]

Ok, getting my boss kills for gems, so I can buy... Arcade balls, of all things, if the bonus is still active... Anyone know?

[bleak gazelle]

should still be good

[pastel kayak]

Do I make new gear for main yet? @bleak gazelle

[faint wigeon]

rings

[bleak gazelle]

kruks still fine for active farming

[pastel kayak]

Need some1 to carry me in dungon so can get points in there to buy new rings

[bleak gazelle]

ideally could go full godshard

but gotta wait for that one green conjuror enhancement

[thorn parcel]

is it even possible to get 63M score on the world 5 colosseum?

[flint cradle]

I don't think so

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle want the heat from here it is 35c/96f here

[spiral path]

managed to get gold ball bonus maxed and doubled

[bleak gazelle]

nice

my alt got to 64, it's pricey without the stamp

[sacred knot]

Why can't I collect this last gravel to expand the bar?

[bleak gazelle]

Seems like you're at the cap for regular expansions and need the next engi schematic

[sacred knot]

Ohh. I don't have it unlocked. Checks out

[red mauve]

You guys have arcade stamps?

I got one in about 3 years at this rate I will get the last one in 2030.

[spiral path]

imagine having arcade stamps, couldn't be me

I now have two balljoepickles and no stamps

[red mauve]

Btw you can get dups.

[spiral path]

well, I can't, at least not yet

arcade is just luck, so it will happen eventually, I hope

I'll focus on the stuff that I CAN get, like turtle vial to 13 (yes, finally), and maybe red salts to 12

maybe on my Christmas break I'll even do some two minute claims on my archers and actually finish some bars vials and get all godshard tools, that would be sweet

so, if I understand these odds correctly, the Floor 1 secret hat in sneaking is as hard to get as a pristine charm?

[pastel kayak]

Where to find that wood please?

@bleak gazelle my copper sample went from 13.9m to 17.9m today

[bleak gazelle]

sky doggies map

[pastel kayak]

Ty my mage types not up to that map yet and too hot to have my laptop on to speed run on my vman

@bleak gazelle get chopping up on anther alt that not mage type?

[analog raven]

Sorry english hard. Damage per crop. Does it go by how many plant plots or plant type?

It’s going to be 8 times 20% correct?

[lilac vapor]

Anybody have the link for all the measurements upgrades, and engineering?

[faint wigeon]

per plant discovered

[analog raven]

okie got it

if only can grow pickles. 😦

[faint wigeon]

12 crop found so 12 x 20 240

[faint wigeon]

even then for sure it wouldn't be the same one needed for any vial

ffs when will the game give me better captain

[analog raven]

awww yis i'm a happy girl soon

my goat god is spawning soon so imma put them in my lab and the rest will start to push to lv 200

[faint wigeon]

Soon™

[analog raven]

12 hours more 😄

so like 4am singapore time

i'm still trying to unlock the divinity bubble. it's crazy how tough it is to get

[faint wigeon]

yeah all my gods before goat were hard to get, I had to do 100% offering to get them because I was unlucky while ash had them with low offering
tho I did get omni purr and even flutter with low offering on my first few ones

[amber coral]

Whats the best harp string layout to work towards?

[faint wigeon]

idk I just go full C for note gain

[boreal dune]

what are you trying to get and what notes do you have

[amber coral]

Was just wondering if there was an optimal final string combo to head towards, only have I think 5 strings with only 3 notes atm

And 3 string types

[boreal dune]

this is mine at the moment

[amber coral]

Just leveling up the ones other than C when they are eassy multi levels but mainly just C strumming

[faint wigeon]

one of all kinda ish is what i've seen

[amber coral]

wtf only 5 opals that far in?

[boreal dune]

yes one of each then it is your choice

[amber coral]

Am I just lucky or is the luck required really falling off

[boreal dune]

no I need to trade and put d on but I use g to lvl all types it gives xp to all

[amber coral]

your D is level 78 tho

Or do you just not put full D so the luck is kinda low

[boreal dune]

g lvls d

g lvl all lol

[amber coral]

ooooh

So you just havent strummed D much

Just leveling with G

[boreal dune]

ya when they hit 80 I am going back to d

see

[stable bolt]

How do you get this bonus in w5?

[faint wigeon]

bear god, 2nd god

bear god : you can remote connect to lab but don't gain xp
goat god : you can connect to lab and it count as if on the divinity altar (2 in 1 jail grind)

[stable bolt]

How difficult is it getting that? I'm still trying to push w4

[faint wigeon]

its alright

when you get to w5 you throw all your char on the divinity altar to get them gods asap

the goal of div jail is to get the 5th god asap so you can go back to lab jail (and do div at the same time with goat god)

[stable bolt]

I see, thank you

[cold jackal]

we gaming now

[analog raven]

bear god is easy, probably just a few days if u lucky.

the goat one however, i been sitting on my platform for almost a week plus :<

[stable temple]

Think it took me a month for purrmep

[pastel kayak]

Some I have gotten on 1% @stable temple

[zinc rover]

Is it currently possible to get the Rift Guy upgrade and beyond(level 18 to 20) from the Engineer in the Caverns?

[undone wagon]

Should I buy any of these?

[faint wigeon]

both

[junior arrow]

no, you can get lvl18 and it will give you 1 of the 3 upgrades but thats it

[daring carbon]

i cant get the achievement cause i dont have enough for gods sake

[stable temple]

First super bonus feelsgoodman

[faint wigeon]

nice

[simple wadi]

Must be nice getting something other than a green spin on the holiday wheel.

[rotund zinc]

I am trying to solo the first party dungeon but after the 2nd boss i dont get any mor edrops to summon more, even after breaking the huts

[fiery ledge]

22m damage kattelkrunk chest star argues in dj

Dj

Dk

[bleak gazelle]

smack that tree

[tawny veldt]

someone has a tip on how to invest opals early hole?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700

[tawny veldt]

yea, i saw that. its just a lil long

[bleak gazelle]

Check the pins

everything has a link

[tawny veldt]

yes, found it!

what are those 12 conjuror points from gem shop?

[bleak gazelle]

They're from the Oddities section

[tawny veldt]

ohhh okay, so i shouldnt buy them rn, cause i dont have the villager unlocked, correct?

tysm < 3

[bleak gazelle]

Make sure you look at the gemshop section in that guide, too

[tawny veldt]

layer 3 soon

what is a DXP conjurer?

[bleak gazelle]

conjuror is third villager, so it'd be number 3/4 of that upgrade

[tawny veldt]

oh okay, so DXP is Parallel villager upgrade?

[bleak gazelle]

Ahh, yes, sorry. The D in that stands for double

[tawny veldt]

ahhh smart

and can i buy like 4x DXP engineer?

i mean i dont do that, but in theory

[bleak gazelle]

Nope, each purchase of that equates to an individual villager

Shouldn't be able to buy more than one per

[tawny veldt]

oh okay, cause i can still choose villager i already bought it for

should i try? O.o

[bleak gazelle]

if you want

[tawny veldt]

okay yeah not working xD sadge

[simple wadi]

It says it in the description of the purchase. Illiteracy is a plague.

[tawny veldt]

yea ik, its just i could still choose it so i got a lil confused

meanie

[median igloo]

Anyone got a good setup for Citric conflict since they fixed placing a tower on left portal?

[bleak gazelle]

If it's for above wave 80, not sure yet! Let me ask pancake

If you're just trying to get wave 50 for the achievement, #1277368276095336558 has a couple of setups

[median igloo]

Yeah would be above 80

[peak verge]

@median igloo

[median igloo]

Will this work 80 + though

[peak verge]

oh nvm I thought for the achiev

[bleak gazelle]

Cool, nevermind. Pancake says the 200 setup should be fine. Just realized it doesn't have a tower on the portal

[median igloo]

Oh fair wheres the 200 one?

[peak verge]

#endgame-gen-chat message

It got me up to 140-150 but my towers were slacking past that.

[median igloo]

Oh wtf says no access 😭

[bleak gazelle]

#👀read-me

[median igloo]

Ahh ty ty

[bleak gazelle]

wave 200 is still in the masterlist

smh my head

Anyway, setup with the top left image that he provides

[fierce cargo]

oh wtf says no access

[bleak gazelle]

Start with the top left setup, then depending on your tower levels, there are 3 dps options that you'll swap to. Top right equates with step 3/4. Bottom left with step 8, bottom right with step 10. You normally don't have to use dps setups before wave 180. But if you don't think you'll get past an earlier boss wave and just want to be done, then you can swap

[median igloo]

Legend, appreciate you Ace

[ocean bobcat]

what evolve chance should i target? (when does soft cap hit)

[peak verge]

Wasn't that evo chance a bit useless since it worked less and less past the first evolution? I might be misremembering.

[terse verge]

Evo chance is getting a higher tier of a plant/mutation. its still useful

[ocean bobcat]

so i wasn't totally wrong putting points into it 🙂 but it needs alot of levels for just 0,1%. And its getting more. so im curious when it isnt usefull anymore

[terse verge]

Just level it whenever its cheap. You’ll only get like 1% adding 200 more levels so its not any major priority

[humble wadi]

Hi, how to use silver watch for monument ?

[terse verge]

Silver pocketwatch is for modifying your daily reset - has no effect on monument afk

[humble wadi]

golden doesn't, silver has inpact

lava said it

[peak verge]

if your monument resets in less than 15 minutes, don't use silver pocketwatch or it will fuck up the reset

[terse verge]

Lava has said many things wrong about his own game on his stream

You also may be confusing it for rules re: pocketwatch use during an event - not specifically for monument.
During an event, golden pocketwatches are now usually disabled. Only silvers work

[empty wharf]

Just started afking bravery. Just realized it's actually dope.

[quiet pewter]

its got some nice bonuses

[marble lotus]

how much damage vs DR do you put on ES's cards?

[simple wadi]

No damage, all drop.

[velvet ocean]

whos gonna tell him

[velvet ocean]

u need multikill to get more materials go for a mix of dmaage and multikill

[magic crypt]

what's the chance for rift tear? (trying to do rift2)

[craggy willow]

Low chance, pick a class with good respawn mechanic. If you don't get your first tear within several minutes, consider resetting the timer and trying again.

[fierce cargo]

ur mum

[frail vigil]

I feel like I'm doing Kruk farming wrong....

Like I'm 1500 keys in and have more or less 0 decent drops

[bleak gazelle]

what's your DR?

[frail vigil]

11.78x

[bleak gazelle]

sounds about right

i'm around 40x and with 300 daily kills, i usually get 0 necklaces, yesterday got 1, once I got 3. I'll get anywhere from 0-4 obols, usually, too, farming on normal

[velvet ocean]

welcome to the grind ive used abt 50k keys to finish the divine trophy quest

i did it with around 20 dr

[frail vigil]

Sheeesh...

[velvet ocean]

on all characters*

[bleak gazelle]

best bet is to get more DR and just do daily kills for gems and hope for drops

[frail vigil]

Hey @bleak gazelle I bothered you for a review a while back and it was really helpful... I've done a lot, can I bother you for another look just to figure out priority on what to do next?

[bleak gazelle]

sure

[frail vigil]

I'm sorta blocked on getting more equinox unlocked because I can't seem to get a party for Dungeon 2, and grinding those shrine levels is painful...

https://echoplex.idleonefficiency.com/
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/?player=Echoplex&autoloot=on&doot=on&riftslug=on&sheepie=on&order_tiers=on&hide_completed=off&hide_informational=off&hide_unrated=off&progress_bars=on&handedness=off&light=null

Working on refinery, constellations, and stamp levels / atom collider

[ornate briar]

Was the pendant always here? I always thought ti was chaotic and nightmare kruk

[bleak gazelle]

Of course shrine levels are painful, your shrine building levels are painful

[frail vigil]

I'm upgrading them now.

[bleak gazelle]

Like you're working on level 15 tarpper drone which requires 1.15B when you could throw a bunch of levels into those shrines instead

Granted, that's predicated on how much salt you have, I guess

[frail vigil]

I only just unfucked my salt recently.

[tawny veldt]

Motherload online active?

[bleak gazelle]

You can afk, need to pick up the ore on the ground when you claim though

[tawny veldt]

smart, ty

too many players, didnt see the ore lmao

[bleak gazelle]

time to move to a less populated server

[bleak gazelle]

Also try and unlock these two vials, build speed and shrine charge

[frail vigil]

Good callout 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

Do you have a Toolbox link, as well?

click to select, then hold to reset or just use scroll wheel

[tawny veldt]

got it

[frail vigil]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Echoplex

[tawny veldt]

ty xD

[craggy willow]

You can easily solo Dungeon 2 as long as you are at least rank 40. Start with Coin Toss, pick Horn of the Foal as legendary, restart if you get handed commons. Go in with Divine Knight, stack crit.

[frail vigil]

I am 39 =/

[craggy willow]

Just one more Happy Hour 😜

[frail vigil]

Yeah, hopefully. I used the 20x this week

[stark anvil]

Where should I invest other 4 points?

[craggy willow]

Blue, bottom left

[stark anvil]

1 left, where?

[craggy willow]

Depends, do you rather want more wishes or more forge space?

[stark anvil]

Are other green bonuses any good?

[craggy willow]

There's one that increases max multi % for resources

[stark anvil]

Got it, ty

[fast merlin]

does mob respawn rate affect the mushrooms in the hole?

[stark anvil]

Yes

[solemn nymph]

Hey ya'll. I'm gaming level 233 and have been trying to unlock the chemical plant for a year now with no luck. I'm typically clicking 'Research' at around 0.7% or 0.8% on a daily basis. Do I need to just stay the course or is there maybe something I'm not aware of that someone could clue me in on? Thanks in advance.

[bleak gazelle]

I'd drop down to 0.1% rolls and keep

[solemn nymph]

Right on, I'll try this new top strat and see what happens lol

[bleak gazelle]

Good job on getting VMan and working on most of the stuff from before #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Things to still do

• Equip 3 star signs on all characters
• Equip cards on your last two characters, especially since they're actually doing stuff now
• Equip cardsets on 4 characters, equip better/proper ones on everyone. Crit chance only applies while active and is a pretty weak cardset. Def is okay, but in general, you should be using AFK% or DR from boss or event set
• Work on skill levels, you have skill mastery unlocked, get to 300 for your W1-2 skills to get passive cards

Other things to work on

• Link someone to Purrmep, still need this with Doot
• Lab/Div grind - 75 Lab to unlock chip slots and get connection range, 40 Div to unlock Tranqi (you also want 50 Div for Multitool stamp)
• Two new meals yu can unlock
• Upgrade Blooming Axe in Breeding if you need more power for spice zones
• Check out this sneaking setup #1208108939313684621 message
• You've got a lot of folks on Wurms, not sure what for. If you don't have any immediate goals, I'd move people over to the Hole. You've got plenty of layers you should be able to easily mine on Motherload, AFK at bravery till 2k hours, do catching layers, or afk at Grotto for statues (maybe not the best option, but active for a few kills might be worth). These will all give more opals to further boost your villager xp rates to get you more bonuses. Make sure you check out #1303761365273415700
• Worship - most of your characters are approaching or past level 40, time for a skull upgrade. Also try to get your VMan to rank 1, use Maestro Transfusion and check IE/IT for best xp/charge and use that. On your ES, use best soul/charge to try to minimize the xp spread.
• Still have some constellations and merits to work on

[oblique jasper]

W2 dungeon isn’t too hard solo

[zinc palm]

how big of a priority should i be having this on rn
im like very early w6 and i know the bonus gets like crazy high later on, but im also tryna unlock goharut in divinity rn
is it worth going for now? or do i go for skilling first

[solar drift]

just depends on your kph

[bleak gazelle]

Later thing to work on

[tardy yew]

unless you need money

[solar drift]

i would recommend to get it to 100m if your sb have ~2-4m kph else ignore it for now, your stamp cost isnt that high yet anyway

[tardy yew]

for stamps and divinity and the cool w6 shop

[zinc palm]

oh
i can only hit like ~250k kph on dk rn nvm then

[tardy yew]

jesus you shouldn't be in w6 then

[tardy yew]

if his dk is that low then his sb isn't worth the talk

[zinc palm]

im talking like. literally JUST at w6 like im practically only after killing kruk
Im hitting like 44m max damage on dk so i think i just needa focus on other shit

[bleak gazelle]

Yep, like I said, later thing to work on. Plenty of other things that are currently more important

But when you start needing money, gmush kills are your #1 buff

[zinc palm]

aight awesome
good to know

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably work on getting goat unlocked, maybe split some time into Caverns if you haven't yet. Then work on getting all your W1-3 skills to 300 f or Skill Mastery if you haven't done that yet, too

[solar drift]

how many opal do you have ace ?

[bleak gazelle]

125ish

[solar drift]

the bloque map is so good for 2k kill but sadly is nether mage or warrior zz

[rotund zinc]

Does the archer talent that has a chance to give forge progress on kill work afk or is it only active

[echo crag]

work on both, does better with afk actually

[rotund zinc]

Oh good to know 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

MK doesn't work for it while active*

[rotund zinc]

Would it be worthwehile if I was waiting for stuff to smelt to go somewhere with a high MK and leave my archers there for a few hours

[echo crag]

gmush is the map for archer forging

you get to farm bars and improve your money gain.

[rotund zinc]

When i finally get this giant to spawn for the w3 boss quest ill head to gmush

[grim cargo]

gmush is good for money? 😮

[echo crag]

cuz of this

[velvet ocean]

it goes a bit crazy

[lament edge]

am i doing smth wrong or this is how its suposed to be?

[echo crag]

just starting div ?

[lament edge]

yep

[echo crag]

looks normal

[lament edge]

and now... we wait?

[echo crag]

yep, welcome to div jail

[burnt ether]

chat, is evergreen real

i see no end to this, im pretty sure i have spam 100 1%, thats how it works right ????

[strong shale]

Just keep spamming everytime u harvest

Yep

[echo crag]

probably should go to 0.1% at that point

[velvet ocean]

your goal is to get all ur characters to 40 (you dont have to do it now obv) and then u leave them all on tranqi style and youll be chilling

[lament edge]

il figure it out one world later like all the other skills i guess xd

[velvet ocean]

yea lol thats how it goes

[wispy birch]

Is rabbit god any good?

[echo crag]

well he makes it so you prints x6 if lab node is enabled

[wispy birch]

Ooo nice probably will use him on my bm/mman to print more monster mats

[pastel kayak]

Bad @strong shale alert

[fossil crater]

for bronze/silver skilling obols does rerolling them give an increase in SP? or am I just rolling e.g. WIS on chopping

[bleak gazelle]

No skill power, just base stats

[fossil crater]

cheers

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle going to be 107f here today

[crimson thistle]

Its -30c here and im sweating outside

[pastel kayak]

Summer for me winter for you

[lime gyro]

im gonna sound stupid i feel like but what do i need to beat nightmare kattlekruk with voidwalker?

[tardy yew]

everything

[unkempt fable]

given that kruk keys are in the basic loot table for tremor wurms, is there supposed to be an eventual point / dps amount where ES becomes better than DK or bubo at farming kruk keys?

[stable temple]

ES has always been better than DK or bubo at farming kruk keys

[solar seal]

folks just prefer bubo or dk cause it doubles up on efficient farm

[unkempt fable]

thats weird the last time i witnessed that discussion it was the other way around, good to have more of an answer this time though. thanks!

[stable temple]

DK has lowest kill rates but once you get a crystal + choco, orb multiples crystal drops

Bubo has the highest kill rates but no drop boosts

[solar seal]

wurm farm goes like this:
-bubo - if you need/want cc/liquid
-dk - if you still need w5 g.food/statues
-bm - if you can't do samurai yet but want shiny/breed/territory/egg progress
-sb - if you'd rather just 1head and candy keys
-ES - if you care for none of the above

[magic arrow]

How do you get the ability to level up pocket divinity to level two in the hole?

[solar seal]

invest 3 points into middle column which allows for enhancements

[magic arrow]

Thank you!

[noble cargo]

I recently got Goat God and 8/10 of my characters level 40 div, should I start migrating them back to lab or keep them doing mantra to get the new character up to level 40 div

[solar seal]

did you get 40 div without 75 lab? if so, i'm very sorry that you must have had terrible god rng to have just unlocked goat. while commendable, getting 75 lab for full chip slots is still very important so can't fully answer your question w/o that knowledge

[noble cargo]

My highest lab level is 25 😐

[solar seal]

eep. yeah for anyone you aren't actively playing - i would strongly recommend putting them in lab as you'll want all those bonuses lit up 24/7
looking ahead for you, w6 also has a requirement for 2100 account-wide lab levels - so every level you can get now helps you get at least the 1st lab jewel asap.

[noble cargo]

sweet ty

[bitter echo]

Finally went back to update some tower stuff, the old spreadsheet isnt fully up to date is it? Im guessing by the looks of it voidinator didnt exist before w5, trying to figure out what building i should be upgrading at this point really

[peak verge]

The main ones are Poison, Kraken, Party, Void, Freeze and Lightning.

[stuck river]

this is just chilling in my storage 💀

[bitter echo]

ok cus the guide has boulder recommended 32+ for some of the wave guides, im guessing poison/lightning replace them as main dps and i should focus those instead now? My boulders 28 and carried me through a lot but ive only got so many construction slots

[peak verge]

Boulder carries early on but once you wanna start really pushing waves, it becomes pretty obsolete. Last use for boulders is if you wanna get to W50 in W5 TD.

[bitter echo]

Does cost cutter reduce salt costs? as right now blue+ salts are a pain for me

[peak verge]

Blue+ will remain a pain for a while until you can stockpile a bit and craft the few items that need greens, but once you're past greens it's pretty smooth sailing.

Keep green on 0% refinery, it's the equivalent of red salts so you wanna rank it up every time.

[bitter echo]

Was just about to ask that, but green is now getting to the point where it costs more than i produce on blue, though i guess they have different cycle times

[upper grove]

I need some help, I’ve scoured the wiki and can’t find anything. I have a few characters that are showing up as uploaded in lab, but aren’t physically there. They are not on Arctis and I do not have doot. any ideas?

[bitter echo]

ok yeah i never really realised that page 2 was like 4 time the cycle speed of page 1

[peak verge]

Are they the ES by any chance?

[upper grove]

DK, BB and BM

[peak verge]

How's the salt ranks btw? Kept them leveled tidy?

Do you have pocket divinity from the hole?

[bitter echo]

fairly tidy rankings yeah

i want to upgrade my orange but my red would need like 3 more ranks before i do that

cus i really really want to up my blues, but thats just how refining goes XD its a big ol queue of rankups

[upper grove]

This is it

[drowsy rivet]

its annoying at ho little nullo salt you get but then one day you realise you can make as many troll sets as you desire

[bitter echo]

level 24 on the cost cruncher but the blue salt cost per level is quite high now so i might stop upgrading it for a bit

[peak verge]

Yeah, salts look pretty a'ight. Might just wanna look up refinery speed sources or see if you can't work out Omniphau into your God roster. That fabulous mf sped me up incredibly well in the more annoying categories like salts, printing, sailing, breeding etc.

[bitter echo]

Im still early w5 so havent even got goharut yet anyways

everyones just sat on arctis with pocket nobi and the printing one right now

[peak verge]

Get goat, throw them in the lab and you're bound to have Omni by the time you're done with lab lvl 75.

[bitter echo]

would yyou say its worth it to just keep pumping cost cruncher anyways?

yeah working on it, but divinity is slow

someone mentioned earlier i should roll the low percentages til a 100% appears then save for that?

[peak verge]

These are extremely easy to max out, zero reason not to start with cost cruncher just to off-set some costs on everything else.

[solar seal]

its one of the few things in idleon you can "complete" so gives sense of satisfaction once completed

[bitter echo]

salt licks at 8 so far, death notes only at 15 so far cus ive not really paid attention to multikill but i guess it helps for portal opening, when i see multikill i only think of my ES farming mats

so many things to do, Push other characters to chizoar for daily keys, push bm through world 4 to do that tower defense, level maestro skills so hes rank 1 on them, card hunting...

[peak verge]

Out of those 4, I'd say get cruncher/storage at the same time, then finish salt lick, then death note.

[peak verge]

Imma throw you a curveball. Push to W6.

[bitter echo]

even before bothering to unlock vman?

[peak verge]

Get a DK/ES, lock in, hop onto W6, grab all the buffs from the w6 skills you can, then come back to catch up.

[bitter echo]

fair enough, this is my ES damage so far

[peak verge]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........... I'd say personal preference but these days getting the W5 boss damage is arguably easier than it was when recommending to unlock Vman during w5 so idk what to say.

[solar seal]

your dmg is close enough that i'd say get w6 over spending time getting vman

[bitter echo]

ive diamond skulled w1, done half of w2 and overnight left my es on bloodbone and its up to 700k but yeah ill switch to w6 push, but please please tell me, are there more jail skills there or is it just divinity/lab/hole?

[solar seal]

for now, just those

[peak verge]

Fractal 🤓 ☝️

[bitter echo]

ive got tons of time candys ill get my master of nothing spooned surely COPIUM

[peak verge]

Lab, div, hole, lab again, hole again, fractal, and div again sprinkled in between the last two when bored.

getting w1-w3 diamond is pretty easy if you throw everyone at it, even easier now with pocket div since you don't need to keep a few in lab/on arctis to keep it active

You're getting some chows on BB in the process, life is good

[bitter echo]

yeah i took my bb off of divinity and have him slowly chowing

[peak verge]

Unless you were very dilligent, your skills will probably be fucked so dw about those, you'll catch up in time and then stuff snowballs.

[solar seal]

tbh, i wouldn't recommend chow-ing rn. you'll easily chow/zow (possibly even s.chow if you delay long enough) with w6 bonuses through all previous worlds - i would keep it in a jail

[peak verge]

You're chowing in the process of getting diamond for Vman, right? Not like, as a standalone endeavor.

[bitter echo]

Yeah

i had no diamond skulls on w1/2/3 mobs with the exception of pots/gmush beforehand

[peak verge]

Ok good. Don't BB chow stuff that you already got diamond on in the Death Note. Not yet at least.

Just focus on getting that death note nice and pretty.

[bitter echo]

yeah dont plan to, was just doing a 2 birds one stone kinda thing

[solar seal]

For the VMan unlock quest to get 1M deathnote kills on every mob, I plan to double up on efficiency by using only my BB to also get my 1M chows done at the same time. Is this a good idea?
No. Due to the immense amount of power locked behind VMan talents, you want to get it unlocked as soon as possible. Using only 1 character to slowly progress this is not in your best interest. Additionally, 1M is not even the final breakpoint you will be aiming for with BB so there's no reason to delay getting VMan given the fact that you'll need to farm out more DN kills again later. It is best to get your 1M kills for W1-3 using your best characters and simply return later to get your BB its 1M kills either later on its own or when you go for the 100M (Superchows).

[bitter echo]

what i really gotta remember to do is switch my ES back to talent preset before checking divinity... cus i have my es doing combat overnight (not the ideal class for it i know but my es is far above all my others damage wise)

and after seeing how slow the later ones are i did stop chowing after some of the w1s and was just zowing and having my ES finish the job later, but i think ill do as mentioned and just go for w6 asap

[peak verge]

Do you not have a 2nd ES?

[bitter echo]

not yet, just made it the other day but havent leveld it yet

and by just made it i mean i created the character but felt too tired to do anything with it and put it in div jail to start telling myself "ill unlock the classes for it tomorrow"

[peak verge]

Did you level up your characters on the first map of W5?

[solar seal]

if you don't mind waiting, you can just keep it in a jail for now since master classes are around the corner. meta shifts are bound to happen

[bitter echo]

a tiny bit of levelling on w5, but only like one days worth each in order to reach the level for 9th char

[peak verge]

Get them all to lvl 120 or 150 or whatever it was for that town star sign. You should be able to easily unlock all 10 characters.

[bitter echo]

ive not actually touched constellations in a long time i suppose i should revisit them

[peak verge]

Most of them should be borderline free to claim in w1-w2.

[bitter echo]

yeah those are the ones i basically did all of

[peak verge]

And the first 2-3 in W4.

[solar seal]

i would leave both your 9th and 10th as beginners for now, tbh. you are early enough that you could prob wait out master class reveal to see how meta will shift

[bitter echo]

only w1 im missing is the mage mining one

[solar seal]

or at worst, keep them as mage and archer until we know the first 3 master classes

[peak verge]

Candy for it later, not worth rn.

Speaking of worth, do you have Equinox unlocked?

[bitter echo]

oh wait nvm im missing defecaus on 3 players too, didnt realise that

[peak verge]

And rift?

[bitter echo]

yeah just recently started doin equinox, hit my 20th greenstack today

havent unlocked rift yet

current equinox status

[peak verge]

You can turbo boost everyone to lvl 30 fishing in equinox, it should also solve that one star sign in W2.

[bitter echo]

already done that one XD

i have 21 minigame uses so i kinda just used those for xp for it

[peak verge]

You kept up with stuff better than most then.

[bitter echo]

huh i was just going over the constellation on IE and turns outi can claim two w4 ones

[tropic crystal]

How do I increase ladles per hour?

[peak verge]

Buncha cooking efficiency, multitool stamp and ladle stamp.

[tropic crystal]

Thank you

[bitter echo]

speaking of stamps, mine are so painfully neglected XD

[zinc torrent]

Is it worth crafting everything in anvil for slab at least once or worry about it later when salts are in the thousands

[faint wigeon]

later proly

like do the first few anvil tab fully and rest is up to you

[proud pumice]

+1 slab is kind of a lategame thing, if it takes you effort to get it done now, don't do it

[peak verge]

Way later.

[zinc torrent]

I have 998 items on slab but every 10 over 1k seems like a hassle..

[marsh gust]

What is the strat to beat nightmare kattlekruk with vman?

[proud pumice]

some of them you can do, like the anvil page 1 stuff

[peak verge]

~1000-1100 seems adequate for early W5, you should probably aim for 1100 though

[faint wigeon]

you could surely have 1050 or even 1.1k if you try to get some missing item

[faint wigeon]

he's w6

[proud pumice]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message here's the pinned message awnsering it

[marsh gust]

Ok thanks

[peak verge]

I dunno man, he has W5 in his name, I'm going off that.

[faint wigeon]

hmm idk now that I think about it I may be thinking of someone else then

[zinc torrent]

I mean.. w6 yes but barely able to touch anything in it.. mostly stuck on div/lab..

[gilded sedge]

U have w6 in ur name but we all know ur w7, so u see names aren't very trustworthy

[peak verge]

That's incredibly early to be worrying about kruk scarf. Way too low dmg.

[peak verge]

Who is we? Iontknowwatchutalkinabout

[gilded sedge]

We are the champions

[faint wigeon]

who is we

[faint wigeon]

you are the champion

[gilded sedge]

Nah you are the champion

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2engineer-imposter-it-could-be-you-meme-tf2spy-gif-23428001

[faint wigeon]

[zinc torrent]

Demon is the champion

[gilded sedge]

Who's demon

[bitter echo]

I know its w4 not 5 but i just wanted to share how much the game scammed me

[faint wigeon]

lmao rounded number said no to you

[zinc torrent]

Griffys server

[cyan mantle]

Griffy is bad

[zinc torrent]

He's not that bad

🤔 besides cinderbane idk any useful idleon youtubers

[junior arrow]

oh he is really bad you just dont know it

[zinc torrent]

How's he bad exactly?

[gilded sedge]

Icelocked

[junior arrow]

all his guides are stolen from actual pro players, but he never credits them so you wouldnt know

[gilded sedge]

Idlemanezed

[junior arrow]

he also generally gets their guides wrong so he ends up spreading mis information instead

he has also shared exploits in the past

[cyan mantle]

In other words he's useless

[junior arrow]

correct

[zinc torrent]

I mean i knew he's an asshole but geez... stealing credit is a no go

[junior arrow]

its so bad i have had someone from his own community ask why i bother making weekly boss guides, i should just use griffys ones

[zinc torrent]

Who would you recommended?

[gilded sedge]

Icelocked, idlemanezed

Are both peak

[junior arrow]

honestly i dont watch a lot of idleon youtubers so i couldnt say 100% but these guys seem to know a few

[cyan mantle]

I'd recommend the master guide of this server

[peak verge]

Titaniclama has some nice beginner friendly stuff

[gilded sedge]

Man I forgor about titaniclama that's mb

[junior arrow]

youtube videos tend to go out of date and never updated. but we specialise in spreadsheets here which give a lot of info and regularly updated

[bleak gazelle]

people watch youtube for this game?

[fallow aurora]

when i'm bored I do

[cyan mantle]

When im bored I skim through the chats and play siege

[zinc torrent]

Yeah the videos need a huge update..

Cinderbane has some nice videos "useful"

[gilded sedge]

Ofc, watching a idleon video while playing idleon is peak idleonmaxxing

[peak verge]

Idleon isn't as much of a wiki game as something like Warframe but you get to a point where you gotta start cross referencing spreadsheets bc some are outdated lmao

[zinc torrent]

I'm trying to get into warframe atm.. since destiny 2 is skydiving off a cliff

[peak verge]

Is he?

[junior arrow]

every chance he gets

[gilded sedge]

At least he's entertaining

[zinc torrent]

I just watch him for account reviews

[gilded sedge]

Idlemanezed does em too and way better, give it a try

[proud pumice]

i watched him some time ago to spread more misinformation

[zinc torrent]

I'll give him a try :p

[junior arrow]

man i wish people would stop mentioning griffy it appears to be a trigger for me, i get worked up every time

[peak verge]

Imma be real, the very best advice I could possibly give you is to pick one thing that you like (frame, weapon etc.) and then reverse engineer how to get it.

You want a frame? You get it from X. How do you get to X? You gotta do mission Y. Ok so what's needed to get access to mission Y? Requirements A, B and C.

If you focus on everything at once you'll end up overwhelmed and probably quit since that's the biggest hurdle for new players.

[gilded sedge]

Less triggering then seeing people have auto refine on for red salts in my humble opinion

[golden wing]

Griffey isn’t great but every game has that one YouTuber and at least idleons is Griffey.

[cyan mantle]

What's bad about it auto?

[gilded sedge]

[zinc torrent]

Oh yup i do understand this ~
Todays focus is doing the piggys and getting missing stamps to level and then a quick stop by trapping drone.. back into the lab

[proud pumice]

nothing, keep that red refinery at lvl 1

[peak verge]

You mean auto above 0%?

[proud pumice]

yes

[zinc torrent]

Yesterday i did all the key quests (no i don't care about minmaxing)

[peak verge]

I'm yet to see anyone recommend reds/greens above 0%.

[cyan mantle]

I got my red at 90%

[gilded sedge]

Please say ur trolling

[cyan mantle]

I am I'm not that stupid

[proud pumice]

yeah you gotta keep it at 10% to get them procs more often

[peak verge]

Mfs gonna see this convo out of context without knowing that we're engaging in mild tomfoolery and start spreading the gospel of 10%.

[zinc torrent]

10% red salts is peak gaming.. you'll never run out

[gilded sedge]

Its an infinite salt glitch

[cyan mantle]

I can get ruby cards now

[pastel kayak]

Want to have my main active but too hot here going to be 42c/107f today

[cyan mantle]

Yeah

[zinc torrent]

Ngl... keep your pc or phone near the freezer with the door open.. peak gaming

[cyan mantle]

Nah my phone is peak of everything including some PC's it's fine

[faint wigeon]

I think you meant
ɐı̣ןɐɹʇsnɐ

[gilded sedge]

Freezer with the door open at 42c is not peak gaming

[cyan mantle]

You think Australia ain't?

[nimble yarrow]

Is there a spreadsheet for all justice monument choices?

[zinc torrent]

How many bubbles are there per colour cauldron?

[pastel kayak]

Bad @cyan mantle in same state has me but not same area

[faint wigeon]

5 per world so 30 in total tho you can pre unlock the w7 bubbles

[zinc torrent]

So that means 15 more for each with 1% chance..

[cyan mantle]

Your Sydney

[zinc torrent]

Oooo

Are the mines in Australia in the middle of nowhere?

[pastel kayak]

Nope I am in western Sydney

[cyan mantle]

I see

Western Sydney is still apart of Sydney

[pastel kayak]

I am under Blacktown council but not live in Blacktown it self

[cyan mantle]

I don't want to know where you live

Stop doxing yourself

[faint wigeon]

hmhmhm okay go on, continue...

https://tenor.com/bX1Nt.gif

[proud pumice]

that reminded me, i play pokemon go sometimes, there it has a friend list where you give gifts of pokestops you visit, there's a pokestop near my house that says the name of my street, so every time i give a gift i'm kinda doxxing myself lol

[gilded sedge]

The duality of men

[cyan mantle]

You should friend me

[proud pumice]

sure, i live on the other side of the world

[cyan mantle]

Damn

[proud pumice]

brainfart, meant world lol

[faint wigeon]

hey lets all be friend on different continents!

[zinc torrent]

Sends spoiled cheese in the mail

[cyan mantle]

I will tell ludwig the 17 year old

[marsh gust]

How tf do i increase his dmg more then

[gilded sedge]

Tf?

[bleak gazelle]

100b should be fine for damage. But leveling up your lowest W1-3 skill and just general account progress

[drowsy rivet]

should i push lvls on note g just got it

[proud pumice]

pray to the void so your voidwalker can do more damage

[cyan mantle]

Tf you mean tf

[gilded sedge]

Why did I get surprise mentioned

[cyan mantle]

Because

[gilded sedge]

Ok reaper the 15 years old

[faint wigeon]

[proud pumice]

reaper the leaker

[peak verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1268894905070256210/alchemyhow.png?ex=67620ab8&is=6760b938&hm=45f5d9b6bf986d5131b068364b832e51229225be69eef3d30048f685df221e36&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1060&height=653

[cyan mantle]

16 thanks

[cyan mantle]

I ain't leak shit

[proud pumice]

ludwig's age, got mewthesquishmallow to dox herself, i see you're the inciter

[cyan mantle]

I didn't get her to dox herself she said it not me

[gilded sedge]

Tbh my age is in my bio

[zinc torrent]

Wait... you NEED 1 person linked to purrmep even with doot??

[peak verge]

Yes

[tropic inlet]

Only if you want the bonus

[zinc torrent]

I want the bonus... 2x div is huge

[peak verge]

Can't blame every evil on him.

[marsh gust]

Besides the talent with your skill lvls is there any non-star talents that increase vmans dmg?

[peak verge]

The usuals.

You have better gear than me on Vman but like a tenth of the damage.

So you're probably lacking in talents/alchemy/stamps/food/cooking etc.

[marsh gust]

So your probably lacking in everything. Thanks

[marsh gust]

Is there a way i can show you instead of you giving me the most vague answer ever?

[peak verge]

How was any of that vague?

[solar seal]

you'll need to link your !IT or !IE for any deeper critique

[peak verge]

I will tap the sign again

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1268894905070256210/alchemyhow.png?ex=67620ab8&is=6760b938&hm=45f5d9b6bf986d5131b068364b832e51229225be69eef3d30048f685df221e36&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1060&height=653

[marsh gust]

Nvm then

[stuck river]

i like this one ngl

[peak verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1297658496493293638/Alchemy.png?ex=6761dfa6&is=67608e26&hm=7c0e69aa0b8a0b964e411877ab130b6fb4c281c1041f90099b6bca27355606e5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=378&height=375

[cyan mantle]

Summoning

[peak verge]

Reaper weren't you endgame-ish? Tf is that summoning?

https://tenor.com/view/reload-cat-loading-buffering-kitty-gif-17184357

[stuck river]

he wasnt

[peak verge]

Wait, you were the one then.

Why are there two BM enjoyers

[stuck river]

If the world only has 2 bm enjoyers left, its reaper and me

[drowsy rivet]

how does somebody define endgame

[peak verge]

Doing W7 prep

[cyan mantle]

I ain't endgame ish the fuck you on about

[stuck river]

i am so

i am plotting full eclipse skulls on dn atp

[peak verge]

I got you mixed with the other BM enjoyer, since I remember there was only 1 but now there's 2 of you.

[stuck river]

there was 2 the entire time….

[cyan mantle]

Teamyournoobs ain't endgame either

[stuck river]

Well im w7 prep so

[drowsy rivet]

bm?!?!? hes trash

[cyan mantle]

Endgame means big damage, end w6 high alchemy list goes on

[stuck river]

well if you put the meter to be w7 prep i am yes

if it mens big damage then probably no

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-said-watch-yo-tone-gif-23779961

[stuck river]

bro said that when half the chat is bm enjoyers

[drowsy rivet]

sry its trash aside from shiny pets wich is prly one of the last things to get

[cyan mantle]

Get out Bm is the goat

[peak verge]

BM haters gonna be real quiet once master classes drop.

[rotund zinc]

What's the command for the w5 boss

[drowsy rivet]

he made me push w4 over again i pushed on him bc i thought he was good till troll wich i couldnt kill

[faint wigeon]

command? don't remember one but look at pinned

[junior arrow]

there is no command

only the pin

[rotund zinc]

ah my bad!

[high scarab]

For divinity after I put a character on mantra, do I need to keep the rest of my characters on mantra as well or does that bonus apply to everyone? I've been keeping all of my characters on the altar doing nothing

[faint wigeon]

well if you want fast xp (and dont have better stances or purr) mantra on all char is the strat

[high scarab]

Got it, thank you

[peak verge]

Also !mantra in #bot-commands if you need a more detailed rundown.

[latent stream]

bro i cant

why tf does failing justice reset your multi

its so disgusting wasnt able ot play for like 3 days and lost a phat like 3x

[solar seal]

tell me what you think the multi is for, and i'll explain it to ya

(hint: you didn't lose it - you just got rnged on your justice run)

[jovial crater]

Do pocket divinity still give the minor link bonuses?

[latent stream]

well, you dont get to keep your collected bonuses if u fail right?

sorry i meant bravery not justice

[solar seal]

ahh ok big difference

[latent stream]

yeah

i was doing just fine and wasnt evne close to my max safe

i ahd 500k sword dmg and it was like 1.5 mil

[solar seal]

never risk bravery = my general rule to everyone

[latent stream]

and i role a bunch of 10ks

[solar seal]

3x dmg = that was risking it

[latent stream]

then retell and i roll like 3 more 10ks

i generally stop at 3x dmg

[solar seal]

don't ever depend on retelling

it is a literal trap

[latent stream]

but like its still so dumb and is just a feelsbad

that u lose bonuses when u fail bravery run

[solar seal]

retelling is biggest bait of monument bonuses

[latent stream]

should get like half atleast

i clear 99% of time on 3x dmg, and on times i dont i retell

but of course, the one time i couldnt play for 3 days and have a huge muilti

i lose like 200 lvs of char dmg 😭

[solar seal]

1 more chest is never worth losing bonuses though

there's no reason to risk it

[latent stream]

yeah fair

goes back to what i said tho, its just a feelsbad mechanic to lose it all, at all

wish it was atleast half bonus on fail

[solar seal]

you can spot the gamba addicts cause of bravery though

[latent stream]

i mean even without gamba

it just feels bad if u happen to roll like ass even at like 1.5x dmg

[golden wing]

Hello everyone is their an optimal way to setup the harp I have 9 strings?

[solar seal]

#1303761365273415700 message you can see comparisons between different setups at the bottom

[stable temple]

Failing bravery is literally a player skill issue

Too much greed not enough math

[golden wing]

Thank you!

[proven parrot]

instead of having 5 players in divinity should i have 4 in divinity and my shaman in lab

(dont have the one god yet to make people in divinity count as lab too)

[drowsy rivet]

you should have bubo

[proven parrot]

thats what i meant

meant bubo

should i throw him in lab while everyone else in divinity instead

[solar seal]

usually split focus just makes things slower in idleon (also means 1 less person helping to level shrines). i would recommend keeping your bubo on div until you get goat

[proven parrot]

alright

shrines a very good point too cuz obv all them in town there

[rotund zinc]

unforgivable

[oblique jasper]

Eww it’s white

I’m racist against white cards

My samurai card is white and it disgusts me

[faint wigeon]

at least you have one ffs

[oblique jasper]

Yeah because the 1.5% afk is game changing

[craggy obsidian]

what shld i buy in the gemshop, was gonna save for w6 stuff but now im considering buying more bleached cauldrons

[bleak gazelle]

Depends on how many gems you have

[faint wigeon]

depends on the size of your wallet

[tranquil flower]

is there an updated guide for w5 td?

[bleak gazelle]

If you're looking for 80+ then the last setup in #1277368276095336558 should work

[tranquil flower]

my towers are all 50 plus

i should be able to make it to like 100 with the right setup i believe

[craggy obsidian]

1.2k

[craggy obsidian]

f2p

[bleak gazelle]

if you've already got first bleach cauldron, i'd probably just save for w6 stuff

you want at least one of these, since you'll need it for an achievement and it stacks every day, so that's worth it

[craggy obsidian]

anything important to buy tho in w6?

got a fren in w6 rn and the bonuses dont help much, i feel like alchemy is the most long term investment

[bleak gazelle]

that one i just linked is from w6 beyond that, as many farming plots that you can and 1-2 shroom familiers is decent

[craggy obsidian]

what is that

[bleak gazelle]

instagrow generator

[craggy obsidian]

oo oka

[bleak gazelle]

bleach cauldrons aren't too expensive and with Liquidvestment from Equinox and active Bubo you can get around liquid issues

once you get your daily boss farm going for gems you can pick up a lot of the other good stuff. but i think getting a small boost to w6 skills is quite nice

[craggy obsidian]

Currently my dmg is not enuf to even fight kruk

Im at 2 mil + on my dk

;-;

is richelin a good buy?

i currently have 1

[bleak gazelle]

one should be fine for now

[stuck river]

gold watches useable now?

[bleak gazelle]

i think more have kind gotten a bit less powerful due to No Meal Left Behind being a thing

[bleak gazelle]

christmas event is still happening

[craggy obsidian]

u mind helping see my ie? im not sure what i can focus on rn to increase my dmg

https://theidleonking.idleonefficiency.com

[vocal shale]

You can check where you're lacking by going to I.E Auto review, which will break down where you should be focusing on to improve your dmg and all other aspects of your account.
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[craggy obsidian]

oo thx

[vocal shale]

Fair warning, it's extremely comprehensive, you might need to scroll down to find what you're looking for

[vocal shale]

But to answer the damage question, focus anything and everything that gives raw damage percent or base damage. Nobisect, Stamps, Cooking, Greenstacking (for the lab), Cards, Alchemy, etc. etc.
Each one of these and more will incrimentally increase your damage output, but it'll take time.

if you need a more specific "where do I get the thing?" check here: https://idleoninsight.com/?search=

[vernal relic]

if you want some quick damage bravery wave10+ gives some

[vocal shale]

Wait you're serious?

I don't think I've ever gotten to wave 10 but if that's the case then oh boy oh boy I know where I'm sending The Boys and Girls™ to AFK at now.

[vernal relic]

yeah i was going for it since i cant do enough damage in rift

[bitter echo]

so i decided to backtrack to chizoar for scarf/tasks for helmet to up my w5 damage, i got 2 scarfs just doing the first few tasks, literally not even started 5th one

[vocal shale]

Lucky lucky, those can be a real pain to get

Upgrade those to Caustic Blankies when you can, best damage boost necklace

But yeah Chizoar's Helmet and Chestpiece boost damage, so you should be getting those on all of your characters eventually

Which should be replaced with the Troll gear ASAP (good luck with gold twines, you'll need at least 30) and then Magma gear when you get it.

Then don't worry about the divine gear just yet, because you will need to grind for that.

||Good luck on Nightmare Kattlekruk lmao!!||

[bitter echo]

I can beat domeo magmus so i can probably kill blighted chizoar, but is it better to just do chaotic? also yeah 5 of my first 8 characters are at chizoar so pushing the other 3 there now for helmet upgrade

troll is a ways off for sure, but hey ive got like 1200 nullo salts ready for when i do get there

oh god yeah just checked the key ratio... 50 for blighted but only 5 for chaotic 1 in 5 for green spike for 5 keys or 1 in 2 for 2 spikes lol

[fresh barn]

do divinity sparkies not work on people connected to lab with goat god?

[graceful atlas]

Chaotic and blighted have better chances but they're less key efficient

Chaotic atleast dual farms for the card

[bitter echo]

i got maxed out reg chizoar card from card pack freebies, i havent actually looked at what chaotic/blighted chizoar cards do

just recently did the grind to max out my card chance cards so thats nice to have ready for when i do

[graceful atlas]

Chaotic is buff for shrines

Blighted is all stat %

[bitter echo]

i forget, is shrine world tour the limit or do you ever get global shrines where they affect all worlds?

[graceful atlas]

Artifacts

Moai head

[craggy obsidian]

dt i can get that high HAHAH

oh since we here, what bonuses do u guys usually get for bravery

[stable temple]

Damage > gaming bit > fill rate > mining > village exp > cooking for me

[faint wigeon]

tho early on villager xp and bfr is pretty good I think

[fickle lake]

Oml got the jade upgrade for crop found buff cooking speed and my cooking speed tripled

[open yacht]

Is there any way I can use I.E. if my account was created using steam?

[vocal shale]

Is there not a way to link the steam account?

[open yacht]

I can only see google, apple or email login

[vocal shale]

[twin idol]

Damage first? That is just a small additive bonus, right?

[vocal shale]

Hm, not sure. I'll have to look it up

[twin idol]

Creating account with Steam currently does not support 3rd party tools such as IT or IE

Lava mentioned that he will do something about it iirc

[vocal shale]

dang

[gentle wagon]

When should i do this?

[sand kettle]

once you get this

you could also prepare a reset by letting it fill already if you are close to the upgrade

[vocal shale]

What is the point of renewing anyways, besides reseting the bonuses and such

[fickle lake]

@faint wigeon https://ruleoutlaw.idleonefficiency.com ive upped some of my vials, construction, td waves, alchemy, pets and cooking, do i start spamming rifts now? (im still slacking on the keys kek)

[sand kettle]

if you got a bad distribution or bad average lvls per ring

[stable temple]

I want damage and damage is rarer than the rest since it only triggers in later waves. Additive damage is still damage

[gentle wagon]

what is good distribution?

[sand kettle]

the stuff you want to

[gentle wagon]

there are only 4 bonuses right?

[sand kettle]

for me this is good since it focused everything more than vill xp

[vocal shale]

Ah I see

.... wow that's a LOT of rings

[twin idol]

I've never gotten dmg from Bravery, it is the last I prio.

[sand kettle]

if you use autoreview, it shows you your rng per ring and total rings and so on, if you are below 1.84 you should consider resetting

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/bxRSY.gif

[fickle lake]

[stable temple]

I dunno where this list is from but bravery chance for opals is garbage because the base chance is so garbage that extra chance doesn't matter

[twin idol]

yeah after opal 13 don't take it

[stable temple]

Exp gain also scales quite poorly with levels

[twin idol]

True, it is additive

[stable temple]

Mining efficiency also why though over damage

Considering hole already gives you massive skill eff from schematics

Mining eff from bravery isnt that great

[faint wigeon]

im seeing some early bubbles not high enough (at least get them to a cost of 1m), vials again missing a bit more that 10, do rift yeah you could surely do ±31 and I guess like always do the quest daily keys on all char

when steel or even meat trap on all

[fickle lake]

mk ill try getting prints for early bubbles then

[fickle lake]

shinies

and salts

[faint wigeon]

shiny can be easily done with 20min traps, salts is an always problem x)

[fickle lake]

[faint wigeon]

also seems like your equinox bar is full

[fickle lake]

anyway to make salts not a problem?

[fickle lake]

ive already max upgrades the ones that i can

maybe it didnt update?

[stable temple]

Rift for construction mastery

And hopefully salt ballot next week

[faint wigeon]

shows 3/4 for liquidvestement

[fickle lake]

its 4/4 atm for me maybe didnt update ig

[faint wigeon]

besides not messing your salts by ranking up too much and respecting your salts production/consumption not much

[faint wigeon]

oh okay

[fickle lake]

https://ruleoutlaw.idleonefficiency.com check this again

[stable temple]

There's 2 schools of thought on this. One school is to max all your salts and simply turn them off until you can max them again

[faint wigeon]

same one

[stable temple]

Instead of leaving your salts to autorefine at 10% or whatever

[fickle lake]

[faint wigeon]

yeah ig

[languid mist]

The cooking speed reward from Bravery applies to all kitchens as opposed to being a character-type bonus, right?

[faint wigeon]

also do your dreams, 5 skull on weekly boss battle should be pretty easy and so is flurbo as long as you do your x20 boosted run every week

[faint wigeon]

ye

[languid mist]

Thank you dadoums

[fickle lake]

I still cant 5 skull, and im waiting for next party time for the next boosted runs

[faint wigeon]

wat with 10 char and bit of lvl in skill here and there it should be easily done? unless I completed mine on a very easy boss batltle

[crimson thistle]

[vapid geode]

Worth the wait?

[fickle lake]

yes

[zinc torrent]

Does Arctics works with Goharut

[fickle lake]

if your saying outside of lab and get lab exp and divinity then no.

[zinc torrent]

is this for all character?

[teal lynx]

If the god is active on that specific char, then yes

[craggy obsidian]

okaa

[zinc torrent]

purmep only work on main?

or I can use it on any char?

[bleak gazelle]

any charcter is fine. ideally it'd be whoever has highest div level

[bleak gazelle]

If you're just starting out you might want to bump villager xp and bucket rate higher

[craggy obsidian]

okay, thanksss

[slim wolf]

Is no more prayer bonus from gaming better than equipping various prayers?

[fast pine]

What are the recommended divinities to make permanent through conjouring

[bleak gazelle]

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

[fast pine]

Wait can you reset pocket divinity?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, just use the arrows

[fast pine]

Ah, cool

[bleak gazelle]

The main reason to use an ES for Purrmep here is because it requires a main/real link and ES still gets access to Polytheism, for a total of 4 gods, so they can still link to Bear or w/e

[lyric glen]

For the second pocket divinity, you unlock that via the same villager with the other majik bonuses too, right?

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, get the third blue bonus and that let's you enhance other bonuses. So spend one more point in Pocket Div and it'll give you the second link

[lyric glen]

ah ty

[slim wolf]

Isn't it better to be on last charater?

[toxic warren]

what would be ideal to use to push w5 (for context i just reinstalled the game a few days ago after not playing for 1-2 years and i managed to make it to w5 but none of my characters can make it past stage 1)

https://datkiddeanyt.idleonefficiency.com
(just ignore the cringe names)

[bleak gazelle]

Depends a bit on where you're at in the game. But ES still gets 4 links

[solar seal]

why do you say last character? - since players decide the order of their characters, the last character is not "set" so curious why say this

[slim wolf]

Based on the spredsheet guide said connect to my last charater who happends to be DK

But not sure if cause DK cause I have 2 dks

[solar seal]

can you ss where in the spreadsheet guide it says this... cause i can't recall it ever dictating a specific character slot as best for purrmep

[bleak gazelle]

Welcome back
Check out the third 📌 for a bunch of W5 info, included recommended classes for kill W5 boss
Also has a link to get started with Divinity
A recent patch also introduced #1303761365273415700 in W5, so make sure you pop over there to get things started

[toxic warren]

okay tysm

[bleak gazelle]

You do realize that says a specific character and not "last character"

[slim wolf]

Yeah but that's my last charater

[solar seal]

ah you are confusing 2 situations here. 1) you ahve doot so the only real link that matters to you is purrmep. as a result, the autoreview only looks for the highest divinity character and tells you to link to it for maximum minor link bonus
2) the situation ace is discussing is for non-dooters who need to shuffle around their links, ES is often the best play due to the use of hole pocket divinity

it has nothing to do with character order

[slim wolf]

Oh I did not even realize that my last charater was my highest divinty I thought it was my SB

[bleak gazelle]

!review You may want to check out the Autoreview tool to give you some areas to work on. But, as with most people coming into W5, I'd suggest starting with stamps and alchemy

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[toxic warren]

ty (:

[fiery plume]

Is engineer 18 max upgrade for now?

[proud pumice]

yes

[graceful tundra]

what armor do i go for to push world 5? currently on dementia