lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[faint wigeon]

and like acecow's answer to him, either come back later with more DR or just active farm with ES and have all your char afk on it

also its just a glove unless you really want to equip your vman with it you can pass it and come back later

[junior arrow]

!recipedrop can always use the bot command to make it easy

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[gilded sedge]

Is there a list of all the commands like this one anywhere?

[faint wigeon]

no

[junior arrow]

yes

why say no for

[faint wigeon]

erm is because its ludwig

[junior arrow]

bot commands use !help or !help commands

[gilded sedge]

Damn what's this racism against ludwigs

[faint wigeon]

not any ludwig, just you

[junior arrow]

doesnt matter who it is, dont spread misinfo, lots of people might believe that

[faint wigeon]

ight 🫡

[gilded sedge]

Yo thx didn't know that existed lol

[gilded sedge]

Your 84 years of living must have filled you up with lots of hate

[nova crow]

feel like I've hit a wall at Q bits in gaming? Is that expected?

[granite mason]

🙃

[red mauve]

Pretty normal. 3 main ways to up it atm, nugget RNG (with the equonox upgrade) hole bonus and better books on your DK.

I think I am past 10k nuggets since my last upgrade.

[faint wigeon]

ofc

[gilded sedge]

Very sad

[low bridge]

does anyone know how I can reverse-engineer how many raw kills I get per hour from this? I'm thinking I either divide 4M by 25, or 4M by 153.33.

[teal lynx]

4m / 153.33 / 2 or 4 depending on if you use the Lab node and or nobisect buff (At least I think that's it)
Also that will not be 100% accurate, since you got a few kill per kill modifiers, which we don't know how many kills they add

If you want to calculate when you guarantee something you can also use this: https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/guaranteed-drop-calculator

And it's highly recommended to use some prayers

[rotund zinc]

How on earth do I get 20,000 power statues, I get like 3 an hour farming on my dk

[low bridge]

but by using a prayer, don't you miss out on 10% of all prayers?

[teal lynx]

Are you using Crystal cards?
And what is your Dr? -> You shouldn't start before 10.51x dr

[rotund zinc]

Oh, I'm only 3.95x

[teal lynx]

Time to farm obols and cards then

[low bridge]

yeah.... just ignore that quest for now then

[rotund zinc]

Is there a guide for obol farming, I don't have too many at the moment

[low bridge]

you can also buy some power statues every day from W1 vendor

[low bridge]

Get the Double-sixes square obols to start with. then get them merged into golds, then go kill the bullfrogs in World 1 to get Pop obols. The pop obols are circle shape as bronze/silver. if you merge them to gold, they will become square :/

[cyan mantle]

Santa all I want for Christmas is a doot

[teal lynx]

You don't need every positive of every prayer. Some of them don't help you as much as others -> Chance for Giant mobs to spawn crystals, more minigame rewards, slightly more class xp and so on

Meanwhile by not using prayers you are missing 80% effect of good prayers -> Drop rate, Afk gains, Multikill per tier, Printer Sample size, The Ability to spawn giant monsters for Gems and Candies, A multiplicative source of Skill efficiency

Generally good prayers to use:

• Tachion of the Titans
• Skilled Dimwit (The negative skill xp is additive so your 25x xp goes to 23.82x, meanwhile you nearly triple your efficiency)
• Balance of Pain (Multikill per tier is great. Just make sure you don't die with it, because it reduces your armor a ton)
• Rucksack when active or Zerg Rushogen while afk (Rucksack gives you carry capacity so you can active longer before checking your character ; Zerg increases afk gains, but reduces your carry capacity)
• Midas Minded (Gives a ton of drop rate, but increases the enemy hp. So be careful in the latest world, but you can run it in the early worlds no problem to farm statues, gold food, rare drops)

[rotund zinc]

Should I upgrade my golds or just leave them as gold if I'm just starting obol farming

[teal lynx]

You will want your obols to look like this in the end. And make sure you reroll them to +1% dr when they are at their lowest form
Edit: There are some special obols like the Ice guard obol, hyper obols and w5 miniboss obols, which are better

[teal lynx]

Then pay 300+$ 🫡

[cyan mantle]

Your funny I'm broke

[teal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/rihanna-money-bills-cash-rich-gif-14016547032215207557

[bronze verge]

What is the renewing good for? Is it for the situation when I dont like my bonuses?

[teal lynx]

There are two upgrades that allow you to get +2 and +3 levels when you ring the bell. So you want to reset it at some point to get higher bonuses overall

[bronze verge]

Ah, that make sense, thank you

[teal lynx]

And yeah the other thing would be if you hate your bonuses

[peak summit]

is there a plant gaming garden guide somewhere?

[proud pumice]

what exactly do you want to know? there isn't a proper guide as gaming is pretty straight forward most of the time- collect plants to gain bits

[low bridge]

buy golden sprinkler

[teal lynx]

Increase your sources of gaming bits
Upgrade base value so it costs 10x - 100x more than other upgrades
Activate kitsune and click chems

[peak summit]

well i mean my progress has just been super slow so any extra ways to increase bit multiplier

[proud pumice]

the photo santayayah showed has them

[teal lynx]

Santa 🎅

[peak summit]

oh damn im missing quite a few actually thanks santa

[proud pumice]

also if you want to unlock new mutations, do researchs as often as possible, the odds have diminishing returns

[proud pumice]

great

[peak summit]

im guessing thats the limit

[proud pumice]

your next big step is getting snail if i remember correct

yeah, you already have them all

[peak summit]

i just found someone with a snail and he had 65kx gaming bit multiplier 😄

thats crazy

[proud pumice]

yeah

snail is op but it drives you crazy too

been stuck for almost a year between snaill 15 and 19

[peak summit]

damn a year?

so if u get to 19 does it reset all the way back to lvl 1 if it fails?

[proud pumice]

no, there is a way for it to reset to 15

last atom collider upgrade

[peak summit]

ah, i haven't changed my 3d printer in months

[jovial crater]

Do 25% 50% and 100% have equal chances of showing up in divinity?

[finite willow]

I don't think so. I have yet to see a 100% chance.

[jovial crater]

Same

[peak summit]

just keep getting the cheap 1%'s until a 100% appears

it will appear eventually just takes a while, took me a couple months when i was only logging on to claim divinity

[jovial crater]

So is it just not worth at all to go for 50%?

[peak summit]

all up to u, i never did it because it's rng

[cyan mantle]

Also forgot I'm still a teenager

So according to most people here I'm still a child

[silent birch]

Kinda same. I havent changed a lot of things in months. And am therefore currently trying to un-fukk my account

[finite willow]

So does ES get 3 gods with pocket divinity + talent?

[peak summit]

yeah i used to always do that stuff with something in the background kinda boring otherwise

if people went into the vc's in this discord it would make the game much more fun

[signal dome]

600 more to go

[solar seal]

4

[magic crypt]

so what exactly is the benefit of making statues onyx?

[finite willow]

4? Link to one,pocket divinity for one, and then the talent for another?

Where does the 4th come from

[solar seal]

Pocket Divinity has 2 god links once enhanced

[silent birch]

If you want we can vc later today. I should be free in like 3 to 4 h

[magic crypt]

every character has 1 by default, then two pocket divinities and talent for +1

[finite willow]

Ohh pocket divinity gives 2? That's cool.

Can't wait to get the second.

[magic crypt]

you gotta get 3rd upgrade from middle tree though

[finite willow]

So 1 point into green then 3 into middle?

[solar seal]

Onyx provides better bonuses and for each statue you have onyxed, every statue you deposit counts for an additional 0.1x

[magic crypt]

oo

[signal dome]

what order should i be onyxing statues? i got a good amount of statues as by products of power statue farming

[magic crypt]

yeah, until you unlock enhancing
then you get two points in green (two points into pocket div)

[finite willow]

Ah I see, alright thank you.

[solar seal]

there's no 'set' order. the only ones you'll see people do last is w3 since those are on base loot tables so they are slower because you need to use an ES to farm them

[signal dome]

ah i see, iirc i saw griffybit video that said i shouldnt deposit statues first and convert them all to onyx

so i thought there might be an order :p

[finite willow]

Onyx then deposit. You want as many statues onyx before you start throwing them in to level.

There's no order to onyx them. You can do power then oceanman then whatever else. But once you're done getting everything to onyx you want to deposit them to get the bonus from having your statues at onyx.

[signal dome]

i see

so first onyx all the statues i have collected and then store them?

[magic crypt]

welp.
how do I farm these

[signal dome]

this took 2 weeks and 3 days btw

[finite willow]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[magic crypt]

I will probably be sitting in lab for way longer anyways

[signal dome]

ah got it

[silent birch]

I didnt even know about the second part

[signal dome]

omfg i wanna die

[peak verge]

One down, 9 more to go.

[rotund zinc]

If farming for pop obols on DK is active or afk better

[graceful fern]

Why would you farm pop with dk?

Use active es

[rotund zinc]

Oh okay, It's my first time farmin obols so 🙂

[graceful fern]

Es is for pop obol only I think. For all the other obol not from the mob main drop, use active dk I think

[rotund zinc]

Good to know! 🙂

Guess who only just learnt about card sets :)))))))

[bleak gazelle]

[rotund zinc]

I will never emotionally recover from this

[craggy obsidian]

:< me too

[graceful fern]

How did you not have the curiosity to touch everything?

[tardy yew]

wait till he finds out about the ez access menu

i myself found out about it two days ago
it was a miss click
it made me feel like an incredible idiot
also now i had to do achievements...

[rotund zinc]

I did discover the ez acess menu when i found card sets lmao, how do i add vendors to it? I just have the w3 one atm

[tardy yew]

you do achievements!!

some add vendors others ez cards or boss keys

also

is this life changing?

[gilded sedge]

No it's a hippo I think

[tardy yew]

was this a joke I'm not sure because my English sucks

[gilded sedge]

Yes it was

[tardy yew]

I'm sorry

[gilded sedge]

What does the artifact do again?

[gilded sedge]

Don't be sorry be happy

[tardy yew]

+6% total dmg per power of 10 Construction Build Rate.

copied from opera not sure what it seems to do

[bleak gazelle]

if you're pushing through W5 and need damage, every little bit helps

[gilded sedge]

Oh ye that's pretty nice, not life changing tho I wouldn't say

[tardy yew]

too bad....

damage has been low..

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[gilded sedge]

^ trust in the word of the goat

[young frost]

Someone told me that, once you hit w5, accuracy doesn't matter. I haven't noticed that, so what am I missing?

[bleak gazelle]

In an ideal world, your account would be well balanced so that you wouldn't have to worry about accuracy that much

However (especially with Hole technically being in W5), accuracy still matters, especially if you're a DK trying to push

[marble lotus]

I just did it for the first time last week and it took me like 4 days overnight, did you not have choco chip when you did it?

I have yet to get the shield onyx though

[tardy yew]

i push with bubo😎

do something against it!

[bleak gazelle]

think he was saying he's only got like 5-6 hours active a day

[marble lotus]

tbh there should be an afk alternative to active in this game

[runic girder]

Wondering if i should reset and put all 80 opals on 1 person. And if so who

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, I think m6 and around 80 opals it becomes worth it. Would probably do explorer till 10 then engi

You'll get more opals from c9, too (and 10)

[runic girder]

M6?

Aah measurement

[runic girder]

Expected something like that, thanks

Done, now we wait 6 days

[noble cargo]

Unlocked Goat God almost free of the divinity grind

[fierce cargo]

never free

[noble cargo]

free enough

[noble cargo]

what app is that

[open mountain]

poor summer child

if only you knew how bad things really get

[runic girder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KxXJxr7D6B8b3uFE6OXWaCMICedIQjM-oIg0NqkmSOY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[grim cargo]

this honestly makes me want to quit. Worlds 4 and 5 have been SOOO boring to me, I was hooked in W1-W3, but now this is just a slog

[noble cargo]

I just want my characters to do something besides meditate

[echo crag]

lab jail, div jail, bravery jail, justice jail, Nothing jail. Plenty of jail to go around :3

[bleak gazelle]

You're always free to play how you want. There is p l e n t y of stuff to active farm, too

[grim cargo]

there is, but if its optimal to do this other stuff, then I am only hurting myself to play how I want.

[open mountain]

I've done it because I'm one of those few people that have literally nothing else left to do in the game

[fierce cargo]

why does it have to be all or nothing. you can farm div etc on some, while pushing

or do what i did, which is, do the minimum for lab/div then come back in 2 months and bang out 60div levels in 1 day

[echo crag]

getting some of the buff to lab/div does help in making them go a lot faster

[fierce cargo]

i think this game is a perspective shift from a lot of other games. pushing maps is a very small portion of the game. and every system just helps you push faster/easier

[grim cargo]

idk, i was doing that yesterday and was told to read the pins and do full divinity

[fierce cargo]

k4k bubble is massive.

[grim cargo]

and honestly, if it were not giftmas, I might, but I want to be doing the giftmas stuff at least

[fierce cargo]

so pull 1 out?

i don't[ think anybody says put all 10 in lab/jail once you get in

[echo crag]

normally should still have 1 pushing while others are in jail

even hole jail is better to have 1 active farming cuz it allow buckets to rank up

[fierce cargo]

pick your pusher, for w5, then start pushing. and then realize how far behind you are for pushing, and work on the other systems

[grim cargo]

i only have 8 anyway, so i'm 2 down from that with everyone in

[bleak gazelle]

for an "idle" game, idleon is very active, you just happen to have two (now 3) large sections of downtime

[grim cargo]

I'm not behind though, My DK is 2 maps from the boss

[bleak gazelle]

but once you get past the big portion of them, you're mostly back to "there are too many things to active for an idle game"

[fierce cargo]

you're not down anything against people who are still/starting w5

the only difference between jail, and being on a map is that you get to swipe one time to pick up your afk loot

[grim cargo]

it just sucks to come back after 8 hours to get only 72 divinity points, spend them on 1, 5, and 10 offers, never to see a 100, run out and do it again, and again, and again

[echo crag]

yeah div suck at early level because the xp/div pts gain are low

[quick swallow]

Wich Website is that ?

[bleak gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KxXJxr7D6B8b3uFE6OXWaCMICedIQjM-oIg0NqkmSOY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[grim cargo]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[quick swallow]

Thanks

[grim cargo]

maybe its just because i am new and blew through w1-4, so I have been in lab jail for a week and only got to the kill for kill lab bonus, and already have to move out of lab and into a new jail, lol. my refinery needs work, my bubbles need work, my gear needs work, and instead i gotta sit and pick my nose while characters pray, lol.

[echo crag]

it suck, but if you get to unlock a few of the gods it will help you a lot specially now with the hole allowing multiple links

[bleak gazelle]

lab jail for 1 week imagine

i wonder how long mine was

[echo crag]

i think i jailed my bubo for like a month when i did the 2100 farm

if not more

[grim cargo]

probably 2, idk, time is hard to remember. I feel like i started the game 2 weeks ago, but its been almost 8 now

[echo crag]

[grim cargo]

my bubo is 132 px, so yeah, i know its a long time to go

[bleak gazelle]

my push through w4 was about a month, though might have been off for the time due to my 2 year afk break

[fierce cargo]

i wonder how we would fare if we did it now, with all the recent buffs

[grim cargo]

w4 took 11/15 to 12/6 for me, i just checked my guild where i had posted both

so i guess lab was 3 weeks for me, so far, since i put them in right away knowing i needed to get to NBLB

anyway sorry for bitchin, just annoyed i blew another 70+ points on lows looking for the 100% that never came, so it was another wasted 8 hours. And this is just god 1, i know it only gets more frustrating as I go

[peak summit]

@bleak gazelle is there anyway to minimise pong lag? the 25k achievement is so tough when it just freezes and u lose

[fierce cargo]

swap to a different server

[peak summit]

yeah i tried that

[bleak gazelle]

not really, there might be a few maps that are better for it (spike trap, w5 boss room if you can access it there?) I wonder if web client is smoother

damn, was looking through my div grind. it apparently took me 2 months to get omni from entering W5. be glad that we recommend staying on focus instead of swapping to vitalic/mantra. that shit was so wrong

[peak summit]

damn okay i'll try that

[velvet thistle]

Is everything starting at rift guy not implemented or just not purchasable?

Or does this mean that just the rift guy is unobtainable

[bleak gazelle]

dang, and i got rift slug the day i unlocked omni

everything below the Unobtainable line is unobtainable

lul, shits funny looking back at old posts

[velvet thistle]

Ok thxx

I hope rift guy can tell us the true meaning of life next patch

[bleak gazelle]

one day

[velvet thistle]

Tomorrow maybe??

Whats the best guess for the next update

How were the elite classes released btw? One after another or all at once?

[open mountain]

I might have overshot lmao

[granite mason]

🌞

[echo crag]

Along as it's on bubo at least it's not a complete waste XD

[worn temple]

What is this big box

[bleak gazelle]

lul, one of the imports

[hard grove]

What pieces of kruk armor are worth getting before marbiglass

Like before getting all the materials for marbiglass

[wary nymph]

Anyone knows how to make these count for the slab when doing dungeon? I now managed to get hammer I II III within one run. I tried to equip few of them, drop them on the floor, keep them on the floor and none of them actually worked for the slab

[solar seal]

getting a higher tier dungeon item will automatically get all lower ones for you. so you just need to get lucky on all 3 main classes

[solar seal]

the ones that are mainly useful even once you can craft godshard are the chest/legs due to respawn - mainly on archers for smeltin everyday purposes - but for anyone who'll do a lot of fighting afk

[near escarp]

i upgraded snail but it did nothing, just stayed at lvl1 as it was before

[bleak gazelle]

just means you failed the 90% chance

[magic crypt]

means you're unlucky

[solar seal]

or could be unicorn who failed the 90% and then succeeded on 5% for a true reset 🙂

[near escarp]

i think i dont have that yet

[spiral path]

are golden giftmas box cards dropping from the event boxes this year?

[solar seal]

wiki is updated w/ 2024 giftmas

[spiral path]

don't know why I didn't find it before now, but thanks for that nudge in the right direction

so apparently getting lucky with the name tag on the first day really messed up my gem potential, great

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, its pretty dumb

[spiral path]

at least I'm only one card away from 4 star golden giftmas box

[golden wing]

Wait so that’s why I’m getting like 20-30 gems instead of the 90+ my first 2 days?

[eternal slate]

which tool was it that told me whether a captain was better than any of the ones i currently have?

[spiral path]

Dashboard on Idleon Toolbox has it in W5

[eternal slate]

is that in the alerts section?

[spiral path]

yes

it will show you the captain and if you mouse over it will tell you which ones it can replace

very useful

[eternal slate]

ahh alright, got it. Thank you very much

[spiral path]

don't mind if I do!

[mighty rover]

I have all but one peice the amulet. I have my main items on another character. My es just was high enough lvl to make them

[pine viper]

what do I pick here

[mighty rover]

Do harriep

That's actually a good one for that

[tardy yew]

nope arctis

he capping

[mighty rover]

Wrong...
I have that and actis and harriep and omniphau equipped. arctis through thier divinity. And harriep and omniphau through the conjuror

And my es has the additional nobsect

[tardy yew]

I'm sure they are early
arctis will not only give them ×2 printer
he'll give them damage and any other lab bonus depending on how good they are at lab
for early I'll call that better

if they're better I'd recommend the rabbit and arctis for ×6 pprinter output

[mighty rover]

No no no if you're in world 5 more than likely you've already have arctis

[tardy yew]

👀

.......30% skill eff...

[tardy yew]

also if that doesn't apply to them
they would probably take a month to move them all to arctis
(curse you vile lava!)

[mighty rover]

Arctis was like the first or second God you get

[tardy yew]

first

how many unlinks do you get per week?

[bleak gazelle]

sad

[tardy yew]

what the heck is that cog?????

[bleak gazelle]

Once you get the enhancement for 2nd link you can setup like this
And then you can setup like this

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

[bleak gazelle]

corner directional. stupidly rare for w/e reason

[tardy yew]

mine are always something along the lines of
+260 build rate
11% exp gain
also f- you

[mighty rover]

So yea I say link every character to arctis to get your folk to the lab to get the higher bonuses so you can still have characters doing other things like grinding mats while also printing so they are not all stuck in the lab being worthless

Then do harriep so the lab bonus which the harriep

[tardy yew]

that's why my pocket div is arctis

[mighty rover]

I use poly for noobsect because my es is my pusher

[tardy yew]

mine is bubo! ^^

[bleak gazelle]

The reason we recommend arctis as main link is two-fold. You don't need all 10 people to get all lab bonuses (eventually, at least) and the niche case where you are using the liquid node, if you change your pocket link, you lose all the liquid that you banked with it

Since real links are individual, it becomes a bit easier to swap people to nobi or goat and keep your account-wide links on something like harriep/omni or snake/goat

[tardy yew]

did anyone ever tell you that they appreciate your paragraphs?

because i do a lot

[bleak gazelle]

Gotta give credit to @solar seal too

[mighty rover]

Exactly

Thats why I have mine setup the way I do

[pearl wyvern]

help, i cannot buy skills in all my characters .

[mighty rover]

What do you mean

[mighty rover]

Do you have the max on?

[pearl wyvern]

i cannot click chckout talent book

on everything

[pearl wyvern]

what's that

[mighty rover]

Look to see if you have the max on

[bleak gazelle]

check top left corner of that screen

there should be a toggle

[pearl wyvern]

oh right\

thank you

[echo crag]

When did lava add that?

[bleak gazelle]

a while ago

[mighty rover]

Haha we have the same amount of books @pearl wyvern

[bleak gazelle]

like months

march apparently

[mighty rover]

I only do max because to me it's a waste to do otherwise

[echo crag]

Oh wow, not that i really have a reason to toggle it off

[mighty rover]

I wish I could get that book refill timer to 20 book in like 1 to 4 hours

[bleak gazelle]

[mighty rover]

😱😭

I thought i was doing good getting it under 24h

[bleak gazelle]

oh shit, i thought i was at like 100m still

finally done with souls

[fierce cargo]

damn wtf

i get like...200k a day lmfao

[bleak gazelle]

was probably my two ES

[fierce cargo]

i have 2 es too:(

[orchid trail]

for a second I forgot vials were a thing and I was gonna ask how the fuck your bubble cost 1B from level 12 xD

also hey finally got that, that's gonna be useful when artifacts tier 5 drop

[zinc torrent]

Do i need to delete all sampls or just that characters samples to remove this prayer?

[solar drift]

beat me by 4 seconds

[bleak gazelle]

just the character, as prayers are character based

[zinc torrent]

Much easier thankyou ^^
I'm close to 90% sampling rate with it.. I'll remove it soon.

[rustic garnet]

@dapper prism Too popular, can't follow anymore

[zinc torrent]

Sooo... 200 dense water to have void on all characters.. that's going to take a while.. everything else can be gotten easily

[faint wigeon]

5-9 daily buy so 40-23 days

[bitter echo]

i started the vman deathnote step of the quest with me ES thinking it wont be too bad, then i realised "oh wait rams... Oh wait bloodbones..." the bloodbones are gonna take a while...

[zinc torrent]

O.O fk me.... that's long

I think I'll make a set for str,agi,int and pass it around for now...

[faint wigeon]

yeah bloodbones we’re the slowest one to farm, even after getting vman I wanted to chow all mob from w1 to w4 them bloodbones took the most candy

[zinc torrent]

Not to mention weapons need then to ;^;

[faint wigeon]

first void set for main pusher, tho if you’re w6 just go straight for troll armor but yeah i guess making one for all class is easiest

[bitter echo]

im just zowing 1-3, and anything my bb gets to chow overnight ill then skip on my ES, but cause of how im doing it i started my ES at the latest mobs of w3

[faint wigeon]

good strat

[bitter echo]

so glad pocket divinity was released in time for me to reach w5

[faint wigeon]

if you really want to make things faster put your SB in the job as well

[bitter echo]

nobi + arctis is so good

[zinc torrent]

Oh I'm working towards troll atm.. i won't craft any other armours until i have marbiglass as a challenge.

[faint wigeon]

Let us all thank god Lava for hole and pocket divinity as we got to w5

[zinc torrent]

God gear just takes waaayyyy to long..

[bitter echo]

my buddy was lucky as hell and got doot on like his 6th pull

[bleak gazelle]

whoot?

[faint wigeon]

as in divine armor or “dear god, gear takes way too long”?

[bleak gazelle]

you mean "why did i consume my gold twine "

[zinc torrent]

As in last w6 gear takes way to long to get with godshards

[bleak gazelle]

nah, with new hole forge cap godshard is pretty chill now

[faint wigeon]

thats another problem, and yeah now it’s easier with hole

[bitter echo]

woo just got ashen urn, thats gonna be a huge divinity speed boost

[faint wigeon]

farming it was atrocious but strangely enough when I was doing my chows I got that gold twine in line what 3 hours of afk with BB

[bitter echo]

trying to decide between sending everyone to where i dont have artifacts or splitting my captains between islands for specific resources for the boat upgrades

[faint wigeon]

I had one on all island and rest on the last island I unlocked

now it’s 2 boat per island because I need them mats

[bitter echo]

should i be messing with the minimum chest setting?

thought not given the upgrade trait of SB

right now ive just been sending all 5 to the same island that im hunting specific artifacts from

[bleak gazelle]

make sure you're buying new boats/captains, too

[faint wigeon]

also speed

[bitter echo]

yeah im always checking for red captains, and now that you said that only just discovered that i can scroll and theres more slots than i thought

not that i can afford them right now

[faint wigeon]

20 max captain and boat

[bitter echo]

i dont think i need to worry about buying more boats just yet as i can barely afford to upgrade my last boat

[bleak gazelle]

more boats means more chests means more artifacts and loot

[bitter echo]

chests are capped so if i get any low tier boats i should probably only send them to the first island til i actually have resources to upgrade them

Also sometimes i see there are significant stat increases on loot/speed, what determines that? is it like every 10th speed/loot level or something?

[bleak gazelle]

uhh, every 7 and 8 iirc or maybe vice versa

both IE/IT will show you break points, I like IE's a bit better

[errant pond]

Specific level updates for sure, wouldnt be able to say if it is exactly 10 but something like that anyway

[bitter echo]

its funny, i prefer the aesthetics of IT but find navigating IE a bit nicer

So going by the merit command should i be maxing out 3 here then put the last 4 merits in 2 levels on 2?

cus it just has them labeled 1,2,3,4 etc but not specifying how many levels im guessing it just means max that merit?

[bleak gazelle]

IE has a better sailing UI imo

[golden wing]

I really wish one was just overall better!

[bleak gazelle]

nah, having both is good

[marble lotus]

no flaming way, can we get these for christmas instead Lava?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, the motherboard hurts

[pastel kayak]

Change the gold food on my main? @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

can swap sandwich/nomwich with bread

[pastel kayak]

Will, soon just eating cause I went to the shops early

[hardy nebula]

is there a point in resetting the bell?

[terse verge]

When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can see the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle changed the food food on main now

[jovial crater]

Do I go regular dr or card dr for card farming?

[bleak gazelle]

Snapshot card DR then swap to regular DR
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[manic gyro]

Does goat minor link bonus stack?

[bleak gazelle]

As does Harriep's

[manic gyro]

I only learnt that now with the dungeon extra 2 gods bonuses

Was comparing kills per hour with different gods

Very wow, thanks for confirming

[bleak gazelle]

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake.

[torn turret]

When do i unlock pocket divinity?

Is it a engineer upgrade?

[solar seal]

Conjurer (next villager) found in C5

[torn turret]

ok ty

[golden wing]

any updated gem shop priories lists with oddites included?

[patent quest]

Is running all characters on mantra a good idea ( average lvl 20 divinity)

[bleak gazelle]

probably not at that point
keep on focus until you've got goat unlocked (and I like to advise till purrmep, too)

[patent quest]

I got goat I’m running all chakra rn back in lab

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/ronburgundy-anchorman-funny-famous-gif-4630948

[bleak gazelle]

Up to you then, I still think getting purrmep is still pretty strong early on, but getting to 40 is nice for TranQi style

[dapper prism]

Lol, ty for sharing btw xD

[fickle lake]

no leaks hmmm

maybe it really is master class tmr

[rapid locust]

theres no way to up the chances of chemicals spawning right

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle your fault so not here so I can not use my laptop

[hollow rock]

finally got the 5Q bits upgrade for the worship bonus, things are getting quicker...

[bleak gazelle]

huh, oops. looks like i need to BM some

[solid lantern]

finally can call myself and end gamer now

[bleak gazelle]

probably late game at best

[solid lantern]

[brisk valley]

What's the point of the giant statue in the hole that just keeps telling you to come back no matter how many characters you try it on?

[solid lantern]

nah just didnt realise I was on Q gaming bits, thought I needed QQ

🤣

[solid lantern]

you can claim time in 1 hour intervals

and #1303761365273415700

[bleak gazelle]

afk for a full hour like it says

[bleak gazelle]

don't let hugh see that

[young frost]

Look reading is apparently incredibly hard

[bleak gazelle]

it's a rite of passage

[solid lantern]

I was thinking I needed snail 25 or like 100m gold nugget

and I was still in nugget hell even before equanox came out

[bleak gazelle]

did you pick up some bit gain from bravery?

[solid lantern]

possibly

[bleak gazelle]

i feel bamboozled

[solid lantern]

forgot about that too

ahhhh, now I need to redo my prints after what, 1 year (when did tome come out?)

[bleak gazelle]

nearly, back in march

don't bump me out of 5% with your prints

[solid lantern]

I did half arse prints too back then

oh wait, need to get onyx dragon statue, the procrastination continues

[bleak gazelle]

don't forget to gold it

[solid lantern]

I forgot you had to drop it in front

so I just deposited it 🤣

[solar seal]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[faint stag]

Can this be offline afk'd? or does it have to be mined actively

[bleak gazelle]

you can afk, just make sure you pick up the ore drops when you claim afk time

[fallow aurora]

also it can't be cheesed, if u click "DESTROY LAYER" all the ores on the ground will be destroyed

[pastel kayak]

Got a new bouse today in it @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

what wave did you get to?

[pastel kayak]

Just over 12k then I stop

Is that good?

[bleak gazelle]

i don't remember how far that is

also don't know how far your monument progress is

if you stop at around 2x your max sword damage then you should be good

[cyan mantle]

2.5x

[bleak gazelle]

time to throw swords

[fallow aurora]

16

[serene flame]

speaking of this reward multi, does this have diminishing returns? i recently missed my first day of bravery and realized the reward multi goes up if you don't do it

[cyan mantle]

What should I focus

[serene flame]

idk about focus but putting more levels into gaming bits is good

[pastel kayak]

Swords max damage is about 3.9k @bleak gazelle and have 6 of them

[bleak gazelle]

2.7x for 72h, it falls off hard

[pastel kayak]

@cyan mantle why you not in school?

[bleak gazelle]

alright, just be careful with the 12k for now then

[serene flame]

thank you much!

[pastel kayak]

That is why I stopped

[cyan mantle]

Sick

[cyan mantle]

What should I focus man

[pastel kayak]

The heat would not be helping

[cyan mantle]

Eh it's not the heat

[bleak gazelle]

i'm going all in on bits, but you can probably stick with exp and bfr for now. maybe grab more mining eff to get some more motherlode layers knocked out

[cyan mantle]

Half sick half don't wanna go to school since it'd almost over

[pastel kayak]

Silly

[cyan mantle]

Should I?

So close

[golden wing]

Finally chem plant!!!!!!

[cyan mantle]

I've been playing for close to 4 years and I still don't have it

[golden wing]

0.1 claims for about 19 days every 15 minutes for 8 ish hours a day got me it

[cyan mantle]

Chalk this game

[bleak gazelle]

i'd always rather lose out on 1 wave compared to everything. so i stop around 2x

[golden wing]

i got lucky i think i had about a 10% total chance for it

[cyan mantle]

I got it

[night matrix]

Now that one of the w5 artifacts let's me keep shrines in town and effect everywhere, it has been much easier to level up shrines since I always have several tube dwellers.
Earlier today the shrine that boosts giant/crystal mob spawning finally reached the next level.
Due to this, my ES now has a 0.82% chance to spawn crystal mobs when combined with the Poop and Demon Genie cards I have.
This has resulted in dopamine.

I want to increase the Poop and Demon Genie card levels but dang it takes so long

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle cooper on main is over 14m

Not done any samplease in ages

[night matrix]

I'm sure I get that someday. Someday...

[bleak gazelle]

poop isn't too bad on ES, demon genie is worth using a 5* cardifier imo

[night matrix]

It also doesn't help that I keep forgetting to farm for those too.

[bleak gazelle]

are they at least 3 star?

[night matrix]

Poop is 3, Demon Genie is 2

Currently trying to get the Gigafrog card to 4 star so that getting other cards is easier. Already got Snelby and Sir Mustache at 4.

[bleak gazelle]

surprised giga wasn't already maxed from all the pop obol farming i assume you did

[night matrix]

Well you see, I must remember to farm for those in the first place.

My ES can also just be so useful farming in so many places that it can be hard to decide.

[pastel kayak]

I need to farm cards but trying to get gold twine is very hard

[night matrix]

Gold twine? I assume that's a food type I have yet to see.

[pastel kayak]

Need like 12 more fishing item from one level in world 5

[night matrix]

I also have the Card Stamp giving +100% bonus right now, but I don't have the mats to upgrade it. Monetary cost isn't an issue for that one so far, but I'm trying to get 20 greenstacks for Equinox so splitting up to something else would be a pain.

[bleak gazelle]

it's a fishing lure from w4 flombs that's used to craft Troll helmets

[night matrix]

I need to fight the Troll more, but the last time I did it he bugged so I couldn't damage him. Finished his 'mind game,' got the prompt to attack and the shield went away, but he was impossible to target to hurt. Waited around a while a while and nothing ever happened.
Such things make it far easier to end up procrastinating.

[craggy obsidian]

Goofy, my game crashes whenever i press my attack totem(the first totem u get)

[terse verge]

I suggest working on the boss tasks - after the 3rd (or 4th) task the boss starts with a vulnerable phase - so if you can one shot - you don’t have to worry about doing those pesky minigames

[night matrix]

Oh, I can easily one-shot the dude with a single proc of Lightning Barrage. I'll try to do that

[crimson thistle]

11/11

and again

[light herald]

Which note upgrade is the most important

[serene flame]

339-22k base bravery sword damage and have gotten <600 damage 3 times with my last sword in the first 13 rounds 😭

today of all days is the first time i have >2x reward mult

idleon said nope you lose your 10% damage increase/round on broccolini

[hard grove]

Is trading off the magma helmet for the kruk helmet worth?

6% all stat vs 30% total damage

[pastel kayak]

Can mark master recipes now @bleak gazelle

[golden wing]

depends

[hard grove]

Huh

[bleak gazelle]

you get dr from kruk too

[hard grove]

Yeah 10% in this case

[bleak gazelle]

magma is only worth for sampling if you can't get to marbi

[hard grove]

Ok

So if you aren’t sampling it’s just worth it to go for kruk like full set or just helmet and boots

[bleak gazelle]

yers, kruk is typically your main setup until you can start making godshard

[pastel kayak]

Made new sword from the master recipes tab @bleak gazelle

[hard grove]

Ok good to know

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle new sword

[golden wing]

and then later Kruk legs and chest is sometimes better than god shard lol

[night matrix]

I keep forgetting to ask this, does Drop Rate have an effect on Card Drop Rate?

Good to know

[pastel kayak]

Can I have more then 3 cards presets?

[night matrix]

Yes, but you need to buy additional ones from the card shop

[brave fable]

how worth is getting more printer slots

i have 1100 gems and i think i can get 2-3 more slots

[stable temple]

Not very worth unless you hate resampling and need to juggle multiple resources

[brave fable]

hm

is 5 slots enough you think

[stable temple]

I have 0 extra and it's just fine

[brave fable]

alr

[stable temple]

Spend your gems in hole or farming or summoning

[golden wing]

its late game thing to ocnsider

[brave fable]

alr

[stable temple]

Or whatever else. Buy limited shop stuff

[brave fable]

ive been hella lazy and havent done daily bosse sin a bit

[brave fable]

i have all the dr stuff

ill just get more plots of land

[stable temple]

Buy shop stuff for slab if needed

[golden wing]

yeah i like having 6 it helps me stack up relic boosts

[brave fable]

what are relic boosts

or i could get a pristine charm

[golden wing]

sailing gold relic sample boosts and also eventually the one form the event

[brave fable]

ah

[vernal grove]

When trying to unlocking the final type of plant in gaming is the best thing to do just try each time you get a 1% chance?

[bleak gazelle]

.1%

or just whatever you get after clearing your board

[brave fable]

ive been on it for a month or so now

[vernal grove]

Ah, guess I just start trying everyday instead of building up the percentage

[bleak gazelle]

Clear board, roll; use sprinkler, clear, roll; use log, clear, roll, use sprinkler, clear, roll

[tropic crystal]

Are there only 4 villagers in the hole and what is the max reachable cavern right now?

[bleak gazelle]

4 villagers for now, 10 caverns for now

[tropic crystal]

Damn

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700

[autumn cedar]

just wasted 2 weeks trying to get the tier 4 jman gloves and wasted 400 candy to find out i had the thing filtered from the start wow. that is really really re4ally annoying

[turbid plaza]

UI’s don’t count for slab do they?

[pastel kayak]

@turbid plaza I made new weapon on mai today and can make master recipes too now

[earnest adder]

Question, for mutaitons in gaming, is there a way to tell how long it should take for a plant to mutate?

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle making bars I need for new gear for main do I change the oil using from wolf to world 6 oil?

[quartz mauve]

well go ahead

as long as you can buy out the whole stock

[pastel kayak]

I had 15m of world 6 oil

[bleak gazelle]

No exact timing, but you can use this to get an average
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, should be using the w6 oil for the tab 6 stuff

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle my sister account

[granite mason]

EdenThief

[pastel kayak]

Who is?

[grim cargo]

So, with pocket divinity, does that mean you get divinity points and xp if you have both Goharut (goat) and Arctis (bear)?

[grim cargo]

What about with doot? @bleak gazelle

[young nest]

only tranqi gives u div exp when not on the altar

but not points

[grim cargo]

Ok, so same question(s) but remove xp then?

[young nest]

no, u have to meditate for points

[bleak gazelle]

Goat will only work if your character is physically in lab

[grim cargo]

Are you not understanding the question lmao

Goat literally says those in lab count as meditating.

[young nest]

yea

and i consider being in lab meditating

shortcut of dooter lol

[grim cargo]

Ok, so just dumb, got it.

[bleak gazelle]

Bear just simulates lab

[young nest]

never thought of idea being doot chaining them

[lament ether]

Sorry for getting into topic as I'm new to w5 , from what I understand , as I unlock certain divinity I able to use both lab and altar at same time , but no points from altar just xp from lab and altar or it is other way round ?

on the side note divinity ( remind me of old game I use to play Divine Divinity , nostalgic heh )

[young nest]

Being connected to the Lab also counts as being present at the Divinity Altar, so you get gains for both!

[lament ether]

awesome , just will take a while to unlock all of them I guess

[young nest]

if u mean this god then it means when u sit in lab physically then u working on both skills at once

[lament ether]

so in Ideal world I need to put all classes on altar to sit there until they unlock that divinity and then swap them to lab ?

[young nest]

yea, sth like that

[lament ether]

great , thank you

[young nest]

start is very slow, u need boosts from sailing

[lament ether]

I bought gem shop boosters

6/6 if i'm not wrong

divinity sparkie

[analog raven]

still very slow

[lament ether]

as well as chest sluggo 12 , lava sprouts 6 and golden sprinklers for whatever they help

[analog raven]

i've been sitting on the throne for awhile now, the goat one is 42k lol

[young nest]

u want all exp bonuses in the world for it

[analog raven]

i got 6/6 divinity sparks from gemstore

[quartz oriole]

Did anyone make a sheet for defense need for amplifiers in the den?

[lament ether]

regardless what time will take , eventually will be done 🙂

[analog raven]

yea, just saying even with gem purchase, it is a slow wait haha

[signal dome]

i did it in 3-4hr batches bro i dont have autoloot so i gotta manually play so cant leave it overnight

anyways whats the required mining level to 5skull this weeks boss?

[stable parrot]

@analog raven pickle

[wispy birch]

Good es build?

Only lvl 135 and dont have the talent points bubble so dont expect much hehe

[analog raven]

Yes boss o7

[pastel kayak]

Crazy reaper alert @cyan mantle alert

[fossil thistle]

Do I want to reset opals or conjurer points for my first wish?

[stable temple]

You want to buy more wishes for your first wish

[fossil thistle]

How many more wishes

I've got 23 left 🙂

[stable temple]

Unlock wishes until you get hole resource multiply wish or w6 boost wish

[fossil thistle]

👍

[stable temple]

Save up for opal reset though when you have enough opals to actually make it worth it

[marble lotus]

I thought it would be for more practical reasons, I would just give up on the game without autoloot

[runic girder]

Just unlocked the grotto, am i not supposed to active farm this?

My bubo respawn doesnt auto trigger and doesnt insta refresh due to low kill count and my dk revive just doesnt work at all

[teal lynx]

If you want to active farm then use SB
Active is for the cards and for kills to challenge the boss
Afk is gonna be for statues and a decent amount of kill progress

[runic girder]

Afk for statue farm

First time hearing that

[finite willow]

So this is active for everyone even if they haven't made it to hole yet right?

[wispy birch]

Yes

[stable temple]

pain

[hallow fractal]

So do we only get bugs activly on undying hive, I had like 23 hours afk and no bugs colleted from last time I loged in

[faint wigeon]

when you claim your afk gain at the nest or motherlode make sure to collect the bug/ore on the ground for it to count, else you just lost hour of afk into nothing

[hallow fractal]

LAWD, well knowing is half the battle lol, thanks

[faint wigeon]

ye bc its dropped on the ground from your afk claim isn't not auto looted

[wispy birch]

Lava needs to add more pets for w6 ngl

[simple wadi]

For breeding? Good luck. We're still waiting for the W5 update

[inland raven]

why would i renew the bell in the hole?

[faint wigeon]

When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can see the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.

[pearl wyvern]

any tips on getting alot of gold food with that?

[peak verge]

Get higher DR.

[west cradle]

its there a way to reset this ? my stupidity decide to spam the multiplier damage

[faint wigeon]

||or you can scroll||

[west cradle]

thanks my man

[unkempt fable]

verifying: for gloomie shroom farming at the hole, i should active SB if I want opals, but I should AFK farm if I want statues

[fierce cargo]

you afk on everybody else and active sb

it's not just for opals, but also some plunder and high MK

[unkempt fable]

sounds reasonable, thanks!

[faint wigeon]

• cards because the other class respawn mechanics doesn't work are not that efficient

[marble lotus]

with motherboard a year away I guess it's warranted to gamble on chips now...

[unkempt fable]

wait what's that about cards? trickzrabbit's guide said the shroom card isn't super helpful

[fierce cargo]

they aren't, but you still get more from active

just something you get while farming

[unkempt fable]

and they add to the w5 card set completion which gives more afk gain, i guess that's worth it

[wispy birch]

No buyable ones

[simple wadi]

No. Just no.

[fierce cargo]

absolutely not

[hushed barn]

Should I wait tell i unlock the 300 hour reward before starting it because the multiplier is so high?

[tardy yew]

you're still loosing bonuses right?

[hushed barn]

I just unlocked this area

[bleak gazelle]

might as well, do you have any monument afk% from endless summoning yet?

[hushed barn]

Nah, im too low level lol

[bleak gazelle]

well, if you've got 9-10 people there, would just be a day. i'd say it's worth it

to try and get any chests from your first run

[finite willow]

Should I take time out of div jail to afk for that? Or should I stay focused on div for now?

[dreamy merlin]

i got 6 from mine

[finite willow]

Oh wait I'm not on that one, I'm on the sword person one.

[hushed barn]

Thank you

[dreamy merlin]

still div

[bleak gazelle]

Here's a link to some starting info, may want to watch a video. Wiki has all the different cases you can face, just search for "Justice"
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[bleak gazelle]

I'd at least get to 300hr on Bravery, should only take a little over a day with all 10 if you're starting from scratch

[finite willow]

Sadly I'm only at 8 characters rn.

So a bit longer for me.

[fiery ledge]

I want a damge guide for w5 all the ways I have 19m dmage but I at least need 100m for the boss right now

[quaint kayak]

what does retelling do?

[quaint kayak]

u do not need 100m for the boss, i was about 20m when i killed it on my dk, u just needa be active on it so it doesnt heal

[tardy yew]

did you know
the wiki got finally updated and now it even has info on the hole

[quaint kayak]

i didnt know that actually, thank you

[tardy yew]

happy to help!!

🤭

[quaint kayak]

it was not very descriptive and didnt tell me what retelling does..

[fiery ledge]

@quaint kayak bro it's hard as hell I am trying with 19m I can't kill the big moles in time so the heal the boss and not enough damage to damage it then 19m is in my dk

[quaint kayak]

juice ur dk a bit more, i think people recommend 25m before trying , i did it at like 20-22mish

gotta like time ur boomerangs with the mobs, it might heal sometimes but u should be able to get it

[fiery ledge]

@quaint kayak ok but I can't I am trying juice up movement speed it's health is over 50k and mana is over 2k

[quaint kayak]

get ur 4 green potions, and boost food effect from post office, star talents etc

[fiery ledge]

Ok

I am joining the game

[clear hinge]

is there a way to see what island the boats are set to in sailing?

[fiery ledge]

@quaint kayak only 19.5 mil

[bold sage]

so once all boats are 300+, is there any stretch-goal to chase in sailing, or am I basically done with it for now?

[quaint kayak]

loot captains are bis i think

at that point

[bold sage]

True, but not much to be done for those aside from one daily captain check.

I've been getting treasure twice a day on all 10 guys, and I think I can just take that off of my daily chores list now.

[quaint kayak]

unless u need the material from a certain destination for alchemy shouldnt have to worry about it

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[fickle lake]

is the update tdy?

[bold sage]

Nobody knows, but the lack of activity in future content blog makes me doubtful.

[fierce cargo]

holy shit how many weeks is it going to take for me to get the rng for lvl 58 endless

[bold sage]

Those 1hp waves are pretty mean - good luck onsparky RNG. I think that's pretty much the only way through.

[pastel kayak]

Had to stop making the bars I was cause ran out of ore for them @bleak gazelle

[fierce cargo]

jk just complain and it'll give it to yuou

[magic crypt]

wait and see

I didn't put my bubo in lab yesterday
so he was doing nothing all day

[clever briar]

Is there any1 who knows where to get more damage while pushing w5?

[fierce cargo]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[teal lynx]

And now say that in german please

[fierce cargo]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage,- in german

[teal lynx]

Damn. Thanks

[clever briar]

thanks for translating

[pale vortex]

https://i.imgur.com/LUGjpf1.jpeg you can't farm this active?

[bleak gazelle]

use SB for active

[pale vortex]

SB?

[bleak gazelle]

siege breaker

[pale vortex]

ty

[teal lynx]

Important: Active is only for cards and kills
The statues are MUCH better farmed afk

[rotund zinc]

Farming for pops on my ES and getting them reliably but when I swapped to sandcastles I noticed I wasn't getting any double sixes, is this bc double sixes are crystal mob farming and not just ES portal farming?

It's so unfair i can't use IT/IE 😭 It would help me so much but because I signed in with steam im facked

[teal lynx]

Didn't that option only become available like 3 weeks ago?
You are in w5 and already farm pop obols. Goddamn you are progressing faster than some people I saw here a year ago

(I'm very proud that you farm your drop rate Most important stat in this game)

[craggy obsidian]

cant think of a name for my character help

[rotund zinc]

I felt you digitally pat me on the head there and I really appreciate it c:

[proud crypt]

goharut blessing stacks with artics ?

[teal lynx]

You won't get divinity progress unless you are in lab or on the altar, but you do get the afk bonus (the minor link bonus)

[proud crypt]

so even with artics it doenst count to get divinity points?

there is a buff to get divinity points ? im getting 10k per hours with all characters there

[merry willow]

what's this unlock in justice monument?

[desert crescent]

hi, at what point is it worth to start unlocking equinox?

[desert crescent]

+1 retelling(revive)

[merry willow]

ty!

[echo crag]

justice 2k is +1 mental health and dismissal

[bleak gazelle]

Correct. You cant automate div like that. You have to either be on the altar or in lab with goat (then arctis doesnt matter)

[proud crypt]

ty

im strugling a lot to get all divines

[desert crescent]

ah my answer is wrong, i thought it was bravery 😄

[bleak gazelle]

feel free to unlock if it you're somewhere mid-w5

[fresh barn]

just entered world 5, was wondering what my stamps and alchemy should be looking like (I know it’s pretty circumstantial, but generally what should the progression be at)

[tardy yew]

f- stamps
just make sure everything has at least a bit of levels like
4-20 depending on where you got the stamp from
like no way you can upgrade the refinery stamp above 8

[woven tapir]

Any great use for gold and silver stopwatch in cavern?

[bleak gazelle]

starting off, total stamp level around 1k, push up to around 2.5k by the time you kill boss

[bleak gazelle]

no golds (also can't use while event is active), silvers are useful for pushing daily reset up to get some stuff faster, but probably not worth it unless you're end-game

[woven tapir]

Alright thanks

[karmic tulip]

is it worth? i tried it but looks like it gives %33 lower than it's off

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably level it up a bit more before keeping it on all the time

[karmic tulip]

so it's worth after leveling

my evolutions is low too so it looks useless i think i have max 4 evo

[bleak gazelle]

Depends on how often you can check then. Keep it on if you check more often, if it's only once a day, can keep it off. You'll probably unlock 5th evos pretty soon though, so you'll end up keeping it on, regardless

[zealous cobalt]

Does anyone have an easy way to get to wave 50 on citric conflict?

[woven tapir]

You even keep it on when plants regrow in a second anyway without it?

[bleak gazelle]

ideally just keep it on until you can guarantee instant gaming without it. even with 5s gaming, the speed can help guarantee higher tier plants spawning

[bleak gazelle]

there are a few setups in #1277368276095336558

[woven tapir]

talking about a second though. I harvest as soon as they grow anyway to farm the chemicals for nuggets mostly

[zealous cobalt]

You can’t place on portals

[bleak gazelle]

Here, use this calcl and see if it's worth it to turn it on or off
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Essentially everyone will keep it on though

[bleak gazelle]

Ahh right, forgot about that change. There are two other options to look at though...

[teal lynx]

Also good to note that with enough speed your sprinkler gives you a full reset plant board when doing 5 second gaming -> If you click the sprinkler you actually get more progress than the 3x bits from having kitsune turned off

[hasty hollow]

am i understanding correctly that schematics beyond level 18 are unobtainable and i should better put my opal into someone else?

[sick nebula]

Ok . . . . . this may not be super relevant, but I can confirm that if you get Doot before unlocking Purrmep you still get Purrmep's "2x Divinity and Div xp" effect but you do not get his minor link bonus to sailing speed and gaming plant growth.

I'm assuming this holds true with all the divinities in w5 if you get doot before unlocking them

Not that this is going to be a thing for most people.

[teal lynx]

Purrmep is the only god that doesn't give you the minor bonus, because it's a special god

Every other god gives the full bonus even when not unlocked

[fierce cargo]

why are there only 4 filter pages

[solar drift]

because 4 = 4

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-violin-jhin-legends-of-runeterra-worldwalker-playing-fiddle-gif-25672866

[faint wigeon]

FOUR

[flint cradle]

What's good gear to have when finishing world 5?

[tardy yew]

amaerok amor with gold helmet because amarok helm is expensive

[flint cradle]

Alright I guess

[tardy yew]

just get green amor i think that's good enough

[flint cradle]

Oh ok thanks

[rapid locust]

So the sprinkler works without any water charges?

[teal lynx]

With enough speed, yes

[rapid locust]

im only at 77%, must not be enough lol

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[bleak gazelle]

TIL

[faint wigeon]

void/chiz armor is an armor some would’ve made as well

[flint cradle]

I alr got void so imma work towards chiz thanks tho

[faint wigeon]

chiz helmet and chest for their dmg% bonus, rest of chiz armor is mastery

[ancient oxide]

depending on your salt gaming, I would suggest troll

to upgrade them into the future endgame armors

[sick nebula]

TIL

[bleak gazelle]

It's in the 📌 for a reason

[faint wigeon]

TI||Didn’t||L

[celest carbon]

Are we getting an update today?

[faint wigeon]

probably, or at least some announcement from lava

[frail carbon]

Just unlocked W5 yesterday. All but one of my characters is still leveling Lab and won't be finished soon. Should I move them all over to get Divinity leveled up? I do have Doot, so presumably I should just get them to Div Lv. 2 and then back to lab, yeah?

[faint wigeon]

div jail til lvl 2 yeah

then back to lab so you can do both lab and div at same time

[frail carbon]

Alright. Should I keep 2 people in lab just to keep the sample bonus active, and rotate them out with 2 other people once those people have hit Div 2?

I guess Div 2 won't take more than a few days, really.

[faint wigeon]

nah it’s alright better get your div lvl 2 imo

[frail carbon]

Cool cool. Thanks for the help!

[faint wigeon]

pray on double afk claim chance

[frail carbon]

Always 😛

[bleak gazelle]

[gilded sedge]

nice

[fierce cargo]

not nice

[gilded sedge]

why not nice? more bfr = higher measurment bonuses and = more prepared for future hole updates

[bleak gazelle]

i don't want bucket. give me bits

[gilded sedge]

[pastel kayak]

Going to be very hot here for the next week @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

use some ice

[gilded sedge]

whats that in celsius

[pastel kayak]

Tuesday about 41c

[gilded sedge]

ooof

[pastel kayak]

@gilded sedge

[gilded sedge]

41 is hell

[echo crag]

would say it depend if theres humidity on top of that 41 or not

[pastel kayak]

Normally is

[pastel kayak]

Is summer here

[gilded sedge]

Wait right it's December, that's criminal

[pastel kayak]

Summer is in December in Australia

[gilded sedge]

Criminal

And yall have big spiders too

Litteraly hell on earth

[pastel kayak]

I have deadly snakes in my area plus I see emus and kangaroos top @gilded sedge

[gilded sedge]

Yeah that feels like hell, but ig emus and kangaroos are dope

[pastel kayak]

I have a huge regional park in my area

[gilded sedge]

O.O very nice

[grim cargo]

Wait, why level 2, level 2 is bear which lets you be in lab with no lab xp. I think you're thinking goat, right? That would let you get div and lab xp at the same time. But that's like 5 I think?

[bleak gazelle]

Div level 2, not god 2

[grim cargo]

What's div level 2? Sorry I only know the gods and xp levels and xp would need to be a lot higher than 2 to unlock anything so I apologize for my ignorance but i'm confused lol

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[grim cargo]

Holy crap

[burnt ether]

Hi, im almost at 20k power statue and other statues with it, when i drop it, does it go away or do we get to keep it and turn it in ?

[fierce cargo]

you don't keep it

[grim cargo]

I knew you got all the gods linked but I thought it was after each got unlocked lmao. That's insane!

[burnt ether]

ah rip, oh well, i was grinding for obols anyway, the statues are byproducts to begin with

thanks !

[peak summit]

any up to date worship guide for w5?

im watching a videofrom cinderbane but they patched one spot on the map

[bleak gazelle]

Nothing updated, #1277368276095336558 has a few strats (especially if you just want wave 50)

[peak summit]

i can't see the worship is it in w5 or w3

[bleak gazelle]

TD is all in it's own section, above W1

Can check the 📌 in the thread, should take you right there

#1277368276095336558 message

[peak summit]

ah thanks , is that 4 different set ups for the wave 200?

[bleak gazelle]

no, the first three are just for wave 50 for equinox (you might get higher). the last two are for anything above 80, realistically

at the moment, due to the tower portal placement change, going above 180 isn't advisable, I believe

[surreal cloak]

How is my multi-bug chance still 300% on my SB? stamp has 11% and this bubble is 255%

[bleak gazelle]

bubble text doesn't change with hole bonus

[surreal cloak]

havent got the hole majik for multi resource

[bleak gazelle]

that text is also saying your max is 300, not current

[bleak gazelle]

star sign if you have it active, i think skill level contributes some small amount to it, too

i also don't know if those bonuses are additive or multi

[surreal cloak]

oh yea the multi or additive could make a difference

Do the stamps show tthe doubled amount, from lab?

[bleak gazelle]

they should but i know some of them don't

[vagrant plover]

anyone want to carry me through all 3 dungeons?

[finite willow]

How do talents like ES' Shared beliefs work? If I swap to the talent before claiming exp does it work? Or do I have to keep the talent active for everyone to get the divinity exp bonus?

[random dune]

anyone down to carry me in dungeons

[fickle pewter]

whats the app that tells you what to improve. it's not idleon toolbox or effecticy

[gentle charm]

ie autoreview

[bleak gazelle]

just when claiming afk

[bleak gazelle]

!review

[obtuse orbit]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[gentle charm]

anyways, does someone have a good the hole harp setup for me please?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700 message

[gentle charm]

Thanks

[unkempt musk]

Guys, whats the pros on resetting the bell ?

[knotty helm]

How do I end a breeding arena run? I want it to save my record but it appears that my pets refuse to die

[upbeat depot]

Is there a guide for justice monument?

Got no idea what I'm doing lol

[knotty helm]

On the hole guide there is some details

[upbeat depot]

Okay ty

[bleak gazelle]

?wiki Justice

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Justice

[peak summit]

how do i get more gaming bits % from worship totem waves?

[bleak gazelle]

like unlock the bonus or improve it?

to improve, just do more TD waves

unlock is a superbit

[peak summit]

thanks, damn it's at 5q for the unlock 😄

[bleak gazelle]

defnitely worth it, assuming you're keeping up with TD

[peak summit]

well i hadn't touched it in ever, so last 2/3 hours i've spent trying to catch up

got 2nd,third and 5th on track so far

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, pretty normal

mine were pretty awful, finally got convinced a few months ago and gained like 70 levels on all of them

probably need to get back to it soon once I get some more points in Slow Roast

[peak summit]

yeah, looking back i'm really far behind on a lot of earlier world stuff, probably need like 20-30 hrs to get up to speed

[bitter echo]

as you can see i dont really have opals on the conjuror so ive only got one point and itll be forever til i get another, should i go for hole majik or village majik here?

[bleak gazelle]

assuming you don't have doot since you have one in green. might as well get your 2nd god link by enhancing it

gotta get geared up so you can start doing daily boss farms for ~200 gems

[bitter echo]

Ooh i guess that would let me get harriep going too

[bleak gazelle]

6x prints and omni procs really speeds up the game

[bitter echo]

yeah im still a little ways off omni, just got the artifact that boost divinity gain based on class level though so thats a huge jump in speed

and my next is goharut so veeery long way off omni

[bleak gazelle]

just pray for the 1%

[bitter echo]

pfft my lucks awful im waiting for the 25% chance at goat for my next roll

[crimson thistle]

nice

[bitter echo]

ive been neglecting worship a bit, not even sure what souls i should get at the moment, im w5 but ive only actually unlocked up to frigid

[crimson thistle]

#patch-notes📝

[bleak gazelle]

hey speaking of TD

[bitter echo]

yeah i just checked patch notes cus it was linked

so basically save states?

[crimson thistle]

wonder if it can be abused

[bitter echo]

i think ima just grab bunch of forest souls for damage bubble

ill leave my beast master alone for now and work on new wave pbs soon

[vagrant plover]

I JUST FINISHED FARMING YESTERDAY

[bitter echo]

well now you unfinished

[vagrant plover]

YOU CANT BE FR

[bleak gazelle]

"finished"

[vagrant plover]

man i cant have shit

[bleak gazelle]

you've still got 4 bubbles to max

new crops makes things easier tbh

also more crops means more bonuses from scientist

[vagrant plover]

after 2 weeks of constant farming and i finish and now im not done

i hope you dont need like 10x the amount of evo chance

[peak summit]

btw is this still the best setup for construction?

[bleak gazelle]

triple DK?

[peak summit]

no just 1 dk

[bleak gazelle]

there's probably a modified version for just 1 person on board, or can keep a 2nd one on

the actual placement doesn't have to be like that, move it around how you like. just understand why it's setup like that

[rapid locust]

does purrmep's minor link bonus only apply to the person linked?

[peak summit]

so the main aim is to lvl them and not have high buildrate cogs?

[bleak gazelle]

no, applies account-wide. the power of it is just based on the div level of the person it's connected to

[solar drift]

more Level = more Build rate

[rapid locust]

excellent! ty!

[bleak gazelle]

correct. your DK(s) will become all of your build rate

[solar drift]

and is more important now thanks to cavern

[surreal vigil]

Alright guys, if my players are all set to Arctic’s and my 2 gods from cavern are set at bunny and elephant, who would you recommend my ES god ability to be set on? It’s my second ES which I skill on, would you say the Goat or the Snake?

[peak summit]

should i elite class swap one to another dk?

[bleak gazelle]

i'd wait till master classes come out to swap anything

[solar drift]

since one of the measurement scale with your account skill level

[solar drift]

don’t you have 2dk?

Since the current setup benefit 2dk more than 3 dk in my opinion

[bleak gazelle]

main link purrmep, poly link arctis

[surreal vigil]

Any reason?

[bleak gazelle]

purrmep only works on a real link

[stuck river]

Ok this is a massive qol

I'm gonna play td today :D

[bleak gazelle]

poly can be easily changed, so run with w/e else if you don't want arctis. don't forget arctis minor gives talent levels though, too

snake might be better depending on what you're doing

or goat if in lab

[dark ether]

guys, in what order did you unlock the islands?

[stuck river]

Trash>Seasalt>Shimmer>Crystal>Fractal>Rando

I recommend this

[bleak gazelle]

fractal can go back to last, too many hole things to afk

[surreal vigil]

Overloaded now 😂 characters gotta be in divinity though for purrrmep?

[stuck river]

Rando still sucks ass regardless

U can candy fractal tho

[dark ether]

thanks guys ❤️

[bleak gazelle]

yeah but why waste candy on mediocre bonuses

[stuck river]

It's still better than 1 random event per week

And in case you accidentally leave somebody in town it won't go wasted

[bleak gazelle]

I mean, if you want the 2x points, yeah. The 2x xp will apply if you have tranqi on. The sailing/gaming speed are always active

[stuck river]

Yo I'm bandit Bob 7 now

[surreal vigil]

Ahhh gotcha, tranqi for when not in? And mindful for when all in?

[stuck river]

Wait did lava just add 20 new glassy crops....

[bleak gazelle]

still think the extra chance at obols/equipment and few gold coupons is nice

from rando

[stuck river]

Oh

But it's like
Once per week tho

[surreal vigil]

Is there any point levelling up divinity and lab once you’ve got max mastery in rift and all slots in lab opened? @bleak gazelle

[stuck river]

Lab no, Divinity bigger minor link bonus

[surreal vigil]

Oooh okay, appreciate it!

[stuck river]

you still get line width regardless in lab but it's practically useless

[solar drift]

and if you are leveling divinity, might as well sit in lab

[bleak gazelle]

div levels affect minor bonuses (especially important for arctis level). lab past 2100 account is just to give more total account levels (useful for tome and measurer)

[stuck river]

This yes cuz goat

[bleak gazelle]

just get 2 per week

[stuck river]

I might be hallucinating but what

[bleak gazelle]

you can upgrade it for chance at 2 per week

[stuck river]

Oh that

I have it at like 6%

[golden wing]

rip no new gemshop

[pastel kayak]

@stuck river will be too hot to use my laptop,here will be 107f by Tuesday

[stuck river]

Sad

I wrecked my laptop

I need to active on my iPad using the fucking web version rn

[surreal vigil]

Anyone know why my rift reward for auto collecting traps isn’t working?

[solar seal]

as with many things in game, the trap vaccuum is not fully explained. so rather than it not working, you likely don't understand how it works.
the vaccuum only collects traps 1x a day at your daily reset (or upon logging in for first time after your daily reset). this is why most folks will ensure that the shiny snitch prayer is utilized on every character so you don't miss out on any extra shinies

[surreal vigil]

Sit in lab with tranqi on?

[wild osprey]

can you get anythign good from this? looked on the wiki and didnt see a table

[surreal vigil]

Oh, that makes sense!

[wild osprey]

damn, i rarely reach dementia teir and that is what i get from it

[solar seal]

its a +1 slab at worst, so we celebrate those 🙂 but otherwise, fairly useless

[wild osprey]

fair enough, only at 1007 slab items

[surreal vigil]

When I start doing divinity and lab up again, is it best to swap all links from Arctic’s to goat?

[solar seal]

divinity is a 'forever' grind cause of arctis talent minor link. so if you are ever needing to grind lab levels, you always want to utilize goat for div

[surreal vigil]

Thank you

[stuck river]

[surreal vigil]

Right last noob question, just got a 12000 nugget, is that high?

[solar seal]

if you want the nice answer, its likely good for your progression.

if you want the "welcome to endgame" answer, its nothing. endgamers are current at multi-billion on their nuggets

you are at point wehre you'll likely not get any more nugget upgrades w/o utilizing the metal detector upgrade from equinox so i would start making sure you are making progress in getting that unlocked

[dreamy merlin]

crazy switch up in 1 run

now im rich again

investing is great