lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fickle lake]

how do i do the new event? Just kill stuff in any world to get gifts?

[solar drift]

anyone here know what the conventional max for multitool stamp is ?

[split shard]

is anyone having a bug with the SB talent that upgrades chests in loot pile when almost full? my chests are being upgraded even when i used a talent reset potion on both SBs (i had the talent at 0 as well before using the talent reset)

[sick sentinel]

seen a good amount of ppl saying the same thing

[solar seal]

known bug. recent hotfix should correct it if you haven't restarted your game

[split shard]

i restarted it yesterday for update but let me try that again

[sick sentinel]

i dont remember if it was 220 or 230 you could get without nslb

[vernal relic]

does this not give more loot pile after the first?

[split shard]

restart did in fact fix it thanks

[solar drift]

thx thx

i am closer than i though lmao

[vernal relic]

i see no difference from my max loot pile

after upgrading it

[solar seal]

yeah unfortunately lava set a cap to loot pile but never gave last 2 levels of this artifact any meaningful upgrade. its a dud

[cosmic tundra]

which is that cap ?

[solar seal]

30 with all gem shop purchases - 29 while using unending loot talent

[covert jacinth]

rip

[reef stirrup]

Is drop rate for Christmas boxes higher for higher worlds mobs? If not, W1 is the best place to farm them right?

[solar seal]

event boxes (like all loot) is simply based on base kills - you want classes that can respawn on a high density map --> bubo on worms is best

DR has no effect on event boxes - otherwise newer players would be screwed while endgamers could get them in 20 seconds

[teal lynx]

imo it should be like that. Make it easy for early game players and make it 2 minutes of work for endgamers

Now I need 30 minutes, while early players might not even get 50 boxes

[reef stirrup]

Thank you! By worms do you refer to Crawlers (last maps from W5)?

[teal lynx]

Crawler isn't the last map of W5, but the Tremor wurms are -> This is also what he is referring to

🧦

[empty wharf]

Hawk tuah worm.

[icy fern]

where should I farm plunder mob kills?

[echo crag]

citrine

[tame kayak]

wookie give cookie spotted

[golden wing]

Gloomie mushrooms

[icy fern]

Any specific reason as to why? like is it just best for the bombs to hit mobs?

[upbeat quail]

Hey if i started the game on my Steam account is there a way to play my characters on mobile? Can i link my steam progress to my android phone?

[teal lynx]

Good amount of enemies. Perfectly flat map so your abilities hit everything

[solar seal]

if only we could excavate some maps and remove platforms, there'd be a few more... but alas it is always citringes for SB

[icy fern]

Got it, time to get some vitamin c

[solar seal]

unless you started your account using a steam login - not that you used steam to play the game - which wasn't added until very recently - you are likely logged into game on steam using either a gmail/email/apple etc kind of log in - if so --> you can use that to login to your game on mobile

[hardy drum]

can you increase gloomie mushroom respawn rate via talents at all in cavern 9?

[upbeat quail]

I downloaded the game on Steam and when it asked me for an account i clicked Steam. I did not know the mobile version existed but now i would like to play on mobile too. So in short im out of luck?

[solar seal]

the only active respawn mechanic that works on gloomies is a) bubo revive dead and b) SB flag. both dk and es do not work. this is why for active play, it is recommended only SB since there aren't enough mobs to keep bubo continuously running

[solar seal]

ah then yes- you must be a newer player - afaia, there currently isn't a way on mobile to link into the steam login. i think lava is working on this (but i can't be sure)

[hardy drum]

makes sense, thx!

well i mean dk not working doesn't make sense to me but its whatever

[solar seal]

lava just did lava things ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[teal lynx]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[shell summit]

Why i cant place towers on portal in TD W5? Its a new feature or bug?

[solar seal]

change in recent patch - essentially nerfing w5 TD heavily

[shell summit]

Where can i find some lineup in TD W5 without tower in portal?

[solar seal]

what wave are you trying to reach?

[shell summit]

120

[solar seal]

pancake's most recent W5 TD doesn't utilize the portal platform - you can find it #1277368276095336558 message - if you only need 120, just focus on the regular setup, not the dps side

(the first image for wave 200)

[shell summit]

Ok, thanks. I will try.

[shell summit]

I thoughti can place tower here. This place is nerfed too?

[solar seal]

most likely yea

[teal lynx]

It's probably over a portal

[shell summit]

-2 towers. Beautiful 😄

[solar seal]

yeah w5 TD got infinitely harder w/o the portal spots, its a shame

but enough people complained about accidentally porting while doing a TD that this is the solution lava gave us

[magic crypt]

aand another 500 gems 🔥 (from idle skilling)

[languid mist]

When did you guys first decide to go for the entire VMan journey? I can make a 7th character right now.

[solar seal]

@foggy horizon re: your bug post.
a) it was working - just the bonus was terribly small cause it was additive.
b) this bonus was changed in today's hotfix to now be 1.25x multi. restart your client

[solar seal]

generally recommended to make your jman as your 7th or 8th characters. so now is a good time for it

[languid mist]

Great, I'll do it now. Why 8th, though? Is there much of a difference between the 7th? My class setups are currently 1 of each elite class if it matters

[silent oxide]

sounds like a spiteful 'solution'...

[errant pond]

Just that vman is somewhat bad till later on so you’re not missing out on much if you decide to get him 8th

[solar seal]

before the account level rework - it was fine to even make your jman as your 10th (mine is my 10th). its not recommended later than 8th now with shift in account level requirements for new chars that i wouldn't recommend it past 8th. you want access to the account wide benefits of the mman talents

[languid mist]

Got it, thank you both. I'll pull the trigger now since every other char is currently AFK pushing anyway. It'll give me something to do in the meantime.

[stable temple]

I regret making vman 7 because my chara order in change players got out of alignment

It should have been warrior - mage - archer for all 3 rows but the 3rd row is broken because of vman

[tender shuttle]

This is the exact reason i'll make vman 10th

[graceful fern]

Is there a land rank guide?

[bleak gazelle]

There are some calculators in #1277368276095336558 but otherwise no real step-by-step guide as there are too many other things that it depends on. The first linked calculator (and maybe 2nd?) might have some % guidance to aim for, but I don't think that one has been updated with value gmo in mind

if you're just starting out you can kind of throw it in anything. land rank xp and crop evo are normally the go-to

[fickle cave]

Where is best Christmas farm

[bleak gazelle]

where you can kill mobs fastest

[fickle cave]

Yeah sure just want to know where to get Christmas gift the fastest

[bleak gazelle]

wherever you can kill mobs the fastest

[fickle cave]

Ok where that is it es portal

[echo crag]

bubo at wurm is generally the fastest if you got the setup for it

[bleak gazelle]

If you have DK/Bubo (with 200+ tentecleye talent) that would be faster than ES

[fickle cave]

Ok thx

I have this is this good

Welp it 7.5 drop now

[echo crag]

DR does not matter for xmas event

[fickle cave]

And my tentecleye is 150

155

[bleak gazelle]

DK at wurms is fine. Might need to take off MK/damage prayer if you're dying

[sharp bobcat]

hi what is the upgrade order for conjuror in w5 village?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700

[snow kite]

isnt ballot bonus technically better than additive villager since we can get that with 13 levels from bravery?

like thats incredibly easy to get

[echo crag]

i saw someone mention that lava changed it to multi like 15-20 min ago, cant confirm if it trully is now tho

[dense ridge]

what do i focus on

[short sparrow]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bleak gazelle]

round 2 w5 card pack on the alt

aka pretty fucking useless

[bitter pasture]

hole gem shop priority?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700

[red slate]

how many encouragements are you recommended to do for the snail between 20/25 ?
I remember seeing the values but I can't find them again

[bleak gazelle]

Two different sheets you can look at
#1277368276095336558 message
Both should have same values with harp schematic taken into consideration, scoli's just also has recommended mail values to save up so you can get back to what you were at if you fail

[signal turret]

how much damage would i need on my vman to kill the chaotic kattlekruk?

[hollow palm]

When doing a bravery run, how do I do a retelling if I still have re-throws?

[silent birch]

Huh?

[hollow palm]

In the bravery run, you have "Re-throws" and "Retellings". When you get to the last sword, it gives you the option of doing a "Re-throw", So I could not do a retelling instead

[solar seal]

you must exhaust all rethrow before you get shifted to retelling

[silent birch]

When you retell you get the rethrows back. Or at least the ones used up on that fight

[solar seal]

or your last sword must be impossible w/ a rethrow to auto be forced into retelling

[hollow palm]

Oh I did not realize the retelling gives you the rethrows back

[silent birch]

It resets the fight, or at least i remember it doing that

[solar seal]

What does Retelling do in Bravery Story Telling?
It rewinds the last fight. You gain back any re-throws you still had left (and associated re-throw buff if you have the engineering schematic). You simply reattempt the last fight you just lost. BUT you do not keep any last sword bonus. This means if you mess up, you can end up with an impossible fight.
TL:DR - do not ever depend on retelling if you can get sufficiently far in stacking your last sword bonus.

[echo crag]

hate those run where last sword fail like every 10 fights...

[undone lily]

how does a family bonus work? should i upgrade it on all the players or just specific class? there is no info about it..

[supple flare]

Question: is it possible to sample dragon statues? They're first in the drop table, but I'm doubtful

Darn 😦

I assume afk is the only way to grind them, then?

[echo crag]

the lavacode works in mysterious ways yes, but even lava know better than let us print that statue XD

yeah afk is better for those

if you dont have the card at gold yet, farm it with sb active

[solar seal]

the family guy talent is terribly worded and terribly implemented.
if a character is the one providing the bonus to your roster (i.e. shows up in the family tab), the family guy talent will increase that bonus by the amount stated but only to the character giving said bonus

if a character is not providing any bonus, this talent is essentially useless as it does nothing

[echo crag]

so when this has you swimming talent pts you max it just cuz its triggering

[zinc cloud]

How do you enhance the stuff on the conjuror's villager?

[misty spindle]

can someone help me distribute opals please, I have 89 of them, round it to 90, and my levels are 10-14-13-6. I have a feeling putting all 90 into conjurer is good to make him level 20 since he needs the least amount of xp per level, also I have double xp on my engineer but I can buy on one other character besides him and explorer not sure who tho

[solar seal]

its same as unlocking a new bonus. either conjurer levels or gemshop purchase

[zinc cloud]

Conjuror levels seem to let me unlock the spots, but don't give me 'enhance' to fille them

IE all the choices I have left are 'don't conjure this'

[magic crypt]

you get 3rd bonus on middle tree
then you can enhance other bonuses

[solar seal]

ah, i assumed you had already unlocked it. its the 3rd bonus in the middle column

[solar seal]

you can use #1303761365273415700 message - it has one recommended path to distributing points

[magic crypt]

or was it 4th
dunno

[zinc cloud]

But how do I get the points to spend?

[solar seal]

same answer as above

[magic crypt]

you put opals on conjuror,,,,,

[solar seal]

unlock / enhance = same currency

[magic crypt]

yes

[misty spindle]

I know but Im kinda off it and it doesnt really make sense to put any points in explorer

[zinc cloud]

OH NO... I've hosed mysel

[solar seal]

why wouldn't it? getting new caverns unlocked -> access to more opals and access to more bonuses

[misty spindle]

forgot to mention, he is level 10 there are no more caverns to unlock currently

I can do that when lava makes more caverns

[solar seal]

ah i misunderstood your statement. then yes, you can use the opal reset to focus all opals onto 1 villager now. most do it either at 90 or 100 opals

[misty spindle]

you think conjurer is the best for now?

[solar seal]

also ... dont' ask same question in multiple channels. rude af

[misty spindle]

I want more people to see it

[solar seal]

then you can take their opinions

[misty spindle]

well lets hear it

[vernal relic]

how does the captain sailing speed increase per lvl? does it just multiply by lvl?

like if i bought a captain with 10sail spd at lvl 1 does it increase to 20 at lvl 2?

[honest narwhal]

Is there a meta yet for the den?

I've been stuck at around 200k score

[teal lynx]

You will hate this answer... increase the amplifiers based on your account stats. The meta is maxing everything

[honest narwhal]

That's it? Is there no advantage of using DK over Bubo or vice versa?

To be fair I just assumed there was a "best character" for that type of grinding

[snow kite]

isnt ballot bonus better than villager exp since we can just get that with 13 bravery bonuses?

[solar seal]

lava changed villager xp event bonus to be a 1.25x multiplier (was an additive 50%) - which is much stronger than before given we still have 4 villagers to level and the xp requirements to get up to cavern 20 are very high

[snow kite]

i see

is it first priority then?

[solar seal]

afk or villager are most priority atm

[snow kite]

i feel like printer is better than afk ngl

[honest narwhal]

If only I had the foresight to buy those extra stars during the Halloween event

[solar seal]

printer isn't bad either. it really depends on your stage in the game

[snow kite]

yeah i feel like that would help with hourly clicking

but then again afk will just help with sample sizes

[golden wing]

I think printer is better dependent on how often you print

[snow kite]

yeah

[solar seal]

its one of those things. afk - usually always benefits (but maybe not rn so much w/ how much we are afking in hole)
villager xp - has most immediate impact for folks who are focusing on hole
printing - while nice, stacks up to 50 days, requires ramping but like you said - printing is also dependent on afk

only thing folks are not really focused on rn is ballot since... yeah. its ballot 🙂

[snow kite]

i feel like once it stacks up with other bonuses like equinox it'll be pretty strong

worth investing ig but i dont have enough event points

[honest narwhal]

Wait...you can sample in the hole lol

I'm so stupid

[snow kite]

?

u can sample dragon statues?

[graceful fern]

The afk event shop effect what afk?

[solar seal]

nothing in hole is sample-able

[honest narwhal]

I must've read that wrong

[solar seal]

its the standard "all afk" - and by "all", it doesn't include: divinity, monument and a few others 🙂

[honest narwhal]

I saw hole sampling and almost died

[solar seal]

ah i can change taht to printing

[golden wing]

I think hole is the content until w7 so i think that devalues all afk for the next 6 or so months.

[snow kite]

makes sense. i'll prioritize villager and then maybe printer

ill buy 10 spins for event points

i think it's worth

[solar seal]

yeah thats why i said it sort of depends on where you are at. i've seen a lot of endgamers put villager over afk for now since their priority rn is hole

but for most folks, they'll still get a lot of benefit from the afk

[honest narwhal]

I kinda wish he'd finish the last dozen jade coin perks

[snow kite]

eh i already have like 300% afk

dont think 20% would do much

if it was a multiplier i would consider

[graceful fern]

I wish they finish div god😔

[snow kite]

omg same as a doot owner

[graceful fern]

They added 2 free god link for non dooters. I as a dooter, want my power back with the Last two god added

[rapid locust]

is there a point when you stop focusing the squirrel upgrades and do the others or is it just full throttle on acorns?

[golden wing]

i just want w6 boss to drop green gems once w7 comes out lol

[rapid locust]

why not rainbow gems?

[solar seal]

confused by your question. for acorn upgrades, most folks will take the bit multi to ~x5 and then go full speed. for HC folks (like xayayah and others), i've seen her go to ~x6 and rest speed so hopefully that gives you some idea

[bleak gazelle]

can always check out #bug-reports-🐛

[crimson bobcat]

False alarm, I reset them by mistake 🤣

[solar seal]

this is the best kind of goof up

[rapid locust]

Oh sorry, I mean that the cost to upgrade the squirrel is like almost 1b but my fert speed is at like 200m. I was just putting priority onto the % based skills. Just slowly grinding my way up to instant

[crimson bobcat]

Waste of wishes 😭

[open minnow]

do you guys take the retirement chester, 1 chest for 1 mental health trade? (in justice)

[teal lynx]

Only if you are on your last mental health

[zinc palm]

is this good enough gear to start pushing w5? doing it on dk
everything has w5 upgrade stones

[languid mist]

Better than mine and I'm not struggling with w5 on my DK so far.

[graceful fern]

Its a good setup actually, far better than some folk here pushing with

[languid mist]

fr im still using a full dementia set with the blue ice hammer and chizoar's blue scarf

[echo crag]

just remember that when pushing with dk you want 1.5x the accuracy needed for a mob

[errant pond]

You’ve got better gear than me and i’m in w6

[bitter echo]

royal sampler being -xp gain, does it reduce the xp in skills like divinity or in the account wide skills like gaming/breeding?

[golden wing]

I’m on the 3rd map of w6 with dementia…

[teal lynx]

Does not decrease xp in divinity, gaming, sailing, breeding (not sure on this one actually), sneaking, summoning, farming, lab
Should decrease xp in the other stuff -> It's additive so you won't feel the - exp

[bitter echo]

thank goodness for that, i couldnt see anything about skills it wouldnt affect on the wiki page so wasnt sure, so basically i guess i should have royal sampler on everyone then?

[teal lynx]

Always. Unless you already have 90% sample size without it

[bitter echo]

i doubt im close to that, but also not sure where i could check

[teal lynx]

Items > Skill Info > Construction

[bitter echo]

ooh yeah im not even close, 38%, thanks

now that im getting into w5 im backtracking content, zowing with my barbarian... how the hell do you filter stamp drops...

[fierce timber]

which one should i get first because i definitely cant get all of 4 5 and 6

[edgy shoal]

Just hit 1b cost on larry, I assume at my current slow rate of generating atoms its still worth using on this bubble in particular?

[bleak gazelle]

still not a bad option, though might be worth to work on other non-printable bubbles now

you can always just get into range to hourly click it, too

[edgy shoal]

Hourly click being print 1b an hour right? Still way too far off that for any mats, will just focus on bringing other bubbles up for now

[fallow aurora]

there are bonuses to printer output so the amount u sample and the amount u print is gonna be different

[edgy shoal]

Yeah, my output for oaks is only 100m an hour though currently lol, although haven't resampled in a while

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like something to do, especially with all the hole buffs

[edgy shoal]

Indeed, need an amount of time actually at the pc and not working to do that properly so hopefully this weekend

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle good thing I have a laptop or could not,play has update not out yet still on iPad

[bleak gazelle]

oh, i heard someone say iOS is out now

should check on that if you can

[pastel kayak]

Ty just saw the update is out on it

[nova crow]

yay

[pastel kayak]

I have itunes credit to spend @bleak gazelle

[nova crow]

ace what do i do as soon as I get vman? 😄

[bleak gazelle]

cloud save
then throw a point into speed run and struggle with that

oh, maybe throw points into your tab 3 talent 5 first to use on tab 4

[nova crow]

I read people running speedrun screwing stuff up - whats that referring to?

Something about resetting portal kills?

[bleak gazelle]

only thing you can really screw up is if you cloud save. otherwise it'd just be not hitting your goal

[teal lynx]

I assume they mean that vman kills reset and then copies the progress of your furthest progressed char
So if you had 100m kills on gmush the kills are reset to 2m

[nova crow]

Calm, so I just use it as skilling like normal?

[teal lynx]

Correct. Vman should mostly skill -> I only used them active to farm the "Crystal Countdown" skill and then afk on the last w6 map for xp

[bleak gazelle]

yeah. no reason to ever candy 700m tremor wurm kills on it or anything

[verbal ember]

Hey why is there more captains then boats

[teal lynx]

If you need them in a further map then you can just use the speedrun ability and as long as one person has unlocked that map he also gets access to it

[teal lynx]

There aren't more. Use the scroll bar at the bottom

20 boats and 20 captain slots

I assume that problem is solved
Happens way more often than you would think
So don't be ashamed

[vagrant plover]

how much crop evo is needed for the last crop?

[nova crow]

Hooray

Got this from the quest too.. really cant complain

[potent sky]

So is there any specific monster i need to farm to get these Christmas boxes? Because I afked for like 2hrs at the last map for w3 yet none dropped?

[nova crow]

Active only

[weary acorn]

I spent 50 fragments and it just bounced between 4% and 5%

[nova crow]

this fine before I pump everything into speedrun?

[weary acorn]

Am I just unlucky orrrrr

[bleak gazelle]

that do be rng

[weary acorn]

bruhhh

Ima sell some obols

[bleak gazelle]

did you fill up all your slots with regular 5%s first?

[weary acorn]

yeah

Im still doing pop obols tho

I started with the squares

I got all my pops so far to 3%

and I wanted to boost my drop % a lil

the first roll after I said that I got 6% LOL

[bleak gazelle]

if you want to farm frags, stick to w2. way more silver/gold for faster frags

[potent sky]

Ik I afked active yet nothing dropped

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, more or less. can throw some more onto void radius if you want. but i'd just try to do a run every day till monday to make use of the KPK ballot bonus and get some practice in

[bleak gazelle]

does this say 0/50?

[potent sky]

Yes

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably just cloud save and try again

i'm on an alt with 1.5x DR and up to 23 over like 2-3 hours. it's pretty bad

[potent sky]

Hmm yeah i thought the same
Welp thank you!

[wheat adder]

Feels bad. Just got the snail success rate improvement at level 18 from the hole. Got to the optimal success rate of encouragement. Reset to 15. Feels REAL bad.

[potent sky]

Damn i see 😅

[bleak gazelle]

and that's why you use the spreadsheet to save up mails to get back to 18

[wheat adder]

I was there.

At level 18, it says 60 encouragement.

100+ days down the drain.

[bleak gazelle]

did you put all 60 into encouragement?

[wheat adder]

Yeah. Then had 3 to try once.

[bleak gazelle]

ah. my friend. that isn't quite how it's supposed to work

If you're using this sheet, you use Column B (Enc) to pump that amount of encourages based on your Engi Schematic/note level. Then you save up the amount of mail on the right to spend gambling for snail
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DTamBfMkse9LSBLShw9_a5cTqRLLHxYuyMMb2Af6gcQ/edit?gid=1107912856#gid=1107912856

You then either win and get a new level and start again, or should hopefully have enough mail to reset back to 17/18

There's also this sheet which is basically the same but doesn't have the right side success/confidence % and just uses an average cost
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=64199739#gid=64199739

That also has a bunch of other gaming related stuff on it, should def keep it

[amber walrus]

hello looking for someone to say 'Hi' at the snake platform in wolrd 2 pizza server 1

[wheat adder]

I'm using the snail encouragement tab of this, but I am seeing that it imported 60 encouragement. The success rate is correct. Do you keep the encouragement when you fail?

[solar seal]

you are completely misreading the table somehow

how many treble notes do you have rightn ow

[wheat adder]

The top where it says "Current" matches what I see in game when it comes to Success Chanse, Fail Chance.

I have just under 1.1m

The targets below have very little encouragement to go from 15 to 20.

[solar seal]

so given 1.1m notes, at 18 - you should have only used 6 mails to encourage - then you gamble success

if it fails - it failed and you re-encourage and then gamble again

if it reset - then you go back to snail level 15 and start over

[wheat adder]

The snail level is now 15 and it says 60 encouragement. When I change it to 0, it does not match the in-game numbers of success.

It wont let me paste what I have for some reason.

[solar seal]

!image - cause your discord level is too low

[obtuse orbit]

Why can't I send images?

For moderation purposes, images are not able to be sent until you reach the Copper Bar - Lv.1 (Lv.3 for #1073780959087964210 ). To level up in the discord, just hang out and talk for a bit. Every minute, you will get xp as long as you sent a message. Spamming will not level you up faster, so please don't do it. Try !rank in #bot-commands to see what level you are.

[wheat adder]

Ah, that makes sense.

[solar seal]

i do'nt know where you got it in taht youneeded to encourage 60 times at 1.1M treble notes

thats not until snail level 23

[wheat adder]

It was an older spreadsheet.

No engineer involved.

[solar seal]

just so you are aware, these sheets aren't any sort of "guarantee" - even with older sheets. it simply takes you to point where success rate > failure rate

so its bound to happen that even with correct and over encouragement - you might still fail and reset

i'm not sure what "old" sheet you found

but even the oldest we recommend on discord does not recommend putting 60 encouragements at 18

[golden wing]

finished my dr obols for now!

[wheat adder]

Interesting.

[solar seal]

so whatever resource you relied on... was very wrong

or you interpreted it wrong, unfortunately to your detriment

[wheat adder]

Very much so. This one at least shows that I can make it to 20, where it is safe, in about half the time that I was expecting assuming no full resets.

[simple wadi]

I blame the education system. You know 100% of all graduating red dragons fail to pass basic reading aptitude tests in American public schools

[wheat adder]

Still hurts that I just blew a month's savings of snail mail.

Even though it was not a guaranteed improvement. It was supposedly, "Optimized" though.

[sonic oriole]

Hey I'm on cake 13 and need a warrior class to summon Doot, help plz

[teal lynx]

When clicking the snail it's always advised to have a few back up mails ready so you can at least get 1-3 levels back immediately and not lose a ton of bits for weeks (oh 10 min old convo )

[grizzled pilot]

Justice monument says sorry…..
Its been 4 days already and i afk everyone there but still cant access it, help

[simple wadi]

You gonna come in/

[sonic oriole]

I think the archer left

[teal lynx]

It should be the same as bravery. Afk there for minimum of 1 hour (not 59 min, not 20 min! At least 60 min) and then you should be able to click it

[grizzled pilot]

Help

[teal lynx]

It should be the same as bravery. Afk there for minimum of 1 hour (not 59 min, not 20 min! At least 60 min) and then you should be able to click it

[grizzled pilot]

I afk there for 4 days already on every character

[teal lynx]

Can you make a video of you claiming a characters afk gains and then clicking the monument -> Then you can put it in #bug-reports-🐛

Just like this

[grizzled pilot]

Ill do that tomorrow , i just claimed them. I play on ios btw. I mean, the update is out already, ut should work

[simple wadi]

Did you claim the box on the left side, under the AFK time counter?

[grizzled pilot]

Hmm, what box?

[grizzled pilot]

I think i remember smth from the bravery monument

[wild osprey]

do the presnents have a lower drop rate than the coolers did? or am i being su per unlucky, left game open for like 4 hours or more and only half way there

[grizzled pilot]

But i havent noticed any box tbh

[teal lynx]

To me it sounds like they don't get any screen and the monument says "come back in an hour"

[teal lynx]

You sure you have the patch downloaded?

The christmas event is currently active for you?

[grizzled pilot]

Yup

[teal lynx]

(I thought it changed it's text from come back in a few weeks to something else)

[grizzled pilot]

Oh sh@t , it shouldve update automatically

[teal lynx]

[grizzled pilot]

Thank youuu sok much i didnt notice xD . Aparently missing out on event aswell xD

[teal lynx]

The more you know

Glad we could help

[grizzled pilot]

I checked yesterday cause i found it weird the monument not working and there was no update

Any tips on this now? XD

[teal lynx]

Click the bricks on the left side to get your bonuses -> If you have Engineer level 16 make sure to buy the new schematic

[grizzled pilot]

Lvl 15

[teal lynx]

It's a lot of reading. The NPC will tell you something -> Pay x coins for x effect and you need to decide if you want to accept that deal or if you want to reject that
Rejecting can also be good in some cases

A dismiss if you have one is basically a get out of jail free card. You just skip the event and don't get any negatives

Death will come for you every 5 cases. They want coins
If you have some popularity you can also meet the good death -> They give coins and a chest, which gives you rewards when you die

[grizzled pilot]

Thank you soo much♥️

[vocal shale]

Anyone got any good Siegebreaker builds they wanna share? Respecing and hoping to get some input this time

[edgy shoal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[vocal shale]

Thanks

[sweet grove]

what level should my voidinator and poisonic be before i tackle citrus?
party starter and storm caller both at lv 52 already

[vagrant plover]

why is the time going up the more 1k i get it should be about 7 min cycle but its not

[hollow palm]

There are no cards that affect monument AFK prayer gain right?

[coral hollow]

hello, i can get my 8th character soon and i just got to w5 so i was wondering which class would be best to make rn? ES or another squire?

currently have basic lineup with one of each and an mman

[simple wadi]

Why do people ask stuff like this? Just try it and find out how far you get.

[simple wadi]

Generally recommended to get two DKs

[coral hollow]

for construction right? I was considering ES for the divinity thing

[simple wadi]

Divinity thing? I don't believe the divinity talents stack between two ES. Whoever has the higher talent level is the only one who counts.

[bleak gazelle]

might be talking about polytheism too

[coral hollow]

I think I read somewhere two ES became a "meta" because you keep one in divinity and you get to keep main one for pushing/grinding? idk tbh, made a warrior alrdy haha

[potent socket]

what God should I start removing my people from the Divinity altar I'm thinking the fourth one

[empty wharf]

Goat to lab jail again.

[potent socket]

just a little painful at the beginning don't have any bubbles or anything to increase my divinity

[empty wharf]

After goat u can start getting working for Vman. Maestro on gmush, bb (afk for chow too) and es (active for mats) for 1m kills on w1-3.

[empty wharf]

Us focus for highest divinity points.

[rocky tendon]

harriep + arctis not producing the purple spiral 6x prints.. what do?

[bleak gazelle]

most likely visual bug

[rocky tendon]

hmm will test, some of them require 6x for hourly clicks

[potent socket]

so I will spend probably around a week or so on it\

on all 10 characters

it's like a second prison lol

[empty wharf]

Try luck on relics it has a divinity multi.

[potent socket]

luckily I have the king doot pet
I took a break before that came out and then I came back and I started the same time I did divinity

[empty wharf]

U can free up one for pushing w6 XD.

[potent socket]

yeah I'm not there yet my gear is not optimized at all

I took around a 2-year break well closer to 1,000 days

[weary acorn]

Im a f2p player, what should I get for hole in the gemshop

I only have one resource boost rn

[potent socket]

there should be a spreadsheet on that

[rocky tendon]

explorer xp boost is huge imo

[weary acorn]

kkk

Im at undying hive rn

[errant pond]

Get double exp for all characters first, i feel like conjurer points are worth more than singular opals

[weary acorn]

ok

[rocky tendon]

then again idk, for alte game conjurer points might be better? unless you can max it without gemshop idk

[weary acorn]

okokokok

[rocky tendon]

buying a few conjurer points to get 3x gods on all is worth it yeah

for the dootless its so huge

[weary acorn]

3x?

theres only 2 though

[rocky tendon]

1 normal link
2 hole links

[weary acorn]

ohhh

[rocky tendon]

=3x in myhead but whatevs

[weary acorn]

CRUD I HAVENT BEEN DOING MY FREE PETS

I forgot abt them since hole

[rocky tendon]

i have given up on doot, hole is all i need

[weary acorn]

bru

rift slug is also op

[potent socket]

so wait what is it asking me to wait for this ?

[solar seal]

gz you have it unlocked already. it acts as if conjurer has +20 levels (if you bought them all)

[potent socket]

I should have looked what was more optimal before I spend them but it's too late sadly

[potent socket]

what do you mean

[solar seal]

you haven't unlocked anything that you wouldn't have wanted to so no worries

[hybrid halo]

It's saying don't buy before unlocking conju

[sweet grove]

jeez man not everyone has 10 hours a day to play sorry i guess

get most ma stuff from afk and such dont really put many hours on this game

[slender lantern]

Is there a best pair for the pocket divinities ? What’s your guys go to

[tiny sapphire]

Have my 6th and 7th gaming plant evos unlocked but haven't gotten one yet, how long does it take??? Even claiming 30+ hours of gaming garden time via afk, nothing evolves

[lilac vault]

evos don't take time, it's a chance per growth cycle

the unlocked ones in particular are much rarer

[solar seal]

Should I be saving my plants to get more evolution tiers unlocked for the log book?
For T1-T5 evolutions, you will get them naturally and easily over time as you progress through gaming. Do not save your sprouts, just harvest them all.
For T6, you will get them all naturally by time you reach around ~1B/T red bits. Do not save your sprouts, just harvest them all.
For T7, you can get them all once you have instant gaming (very late stage), requires deep farming (W6 skill). Setup board to have 1 or 2 of the plant you want the t7 for with the rest as chemplants. Use all the chemplants and they hit t7. If they don't, reset and restart.
For T8, requires instant gaming, a lot of setup with chem plants (anywhere from 10-20 hrs worth of chaining), and pray to the RNG gods.
TL:DR - don't chase evos

30 hours of gaming means literally nothing in scheme of needing years of gaming time to get t8s

[tiny sapphire]

[tropic oasis]

whats recommended dmg for es kruk, im at 29 mil rn and i got cooked 💀

[coarse nova]

35 mil maximum damage for kruk?

[tropic oasis]

o

[coarse nova]

oops asking a question

[tropic oasis]

ty

[coarse nova]

my bad, but it's in the pins I think

[tropic oasis]

alr

[faint wigeon]

30M for ES, you should be able to do it rn

its a recommended chart, some did with lower dmg I think

[tropic oasis]

hm, maybe il leave auto on

[faint wigeon]

if you see there's mole coming near kruk remove auto and kill them

[tropic oasis]

got it

[stiff oyster]

why are no giftboxes dropping

[tropic inlet]

somebody's been naughty

[simple wadi]

Are you sure your game is fully up to date?

[untold lintel]

might just be missing it, but how do i get to the harp, ive unlocked it but i dont see anything after the bells

[solar seal]

like every other cavern. use the arrows at the bottom

[cyan mantle]

Hi kaito

[untold lintel]

yeah its just not there or letting me, even though i have the first part of the glowshroom tunnels unlocked

its greyed out

[solar seal]

just having the row of 'glowshroom' doesn't mean you've unlocked it - unless you actually see harp there and your explorer is level 6 - you aren't actually there

getting to 5, 10, etc. simply shows you what next biome is

[untold lintel]

well thank you

[solar seal]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-lilo-and-ohana-hi-gif-1354856903718586695

[empty wharf]

What do u upgrade here guys?

[faint wigeon]

all + stats

[solar seal]

you can't really go wrong

you'll do enough runs that you should ahve more than enough credits to max everything out w/o difficulty

[turbid plaza]

Except maybe recycler

Max that with a little difficulty

[thorn osprey]

how are people farming the dragon statue? even with 12.5x drop rate, it feels like I'm getting nothing.

[faint wigeon]

if only dr helped

[solar seal]

for some reason MK applies to statue on AFK farming. so determine how long you need to afk for to guarantee the drop and afk with your roster

you only active on SB for mainly the cards

[bleak gazelle]

with 12.5x DR i'm guessing like 8-12 hour range

[thorn osprey]

gotcha

soo, i should just leave it alone for now then xD

[solar seal]

its a strong statue. its worth the grind if you can make the time for it

but at your DR, i'm guessing you've got lots of other stuff you can also work on still so its always something you can come back to

[thorn osprey]

for sure, i only just finished onyxing w2 statues, so its as you said, gots tons to do still xD

[stable temple]

That depends on multikill too though. I get too little at my current multikill would take mr weeks to onyx

[wild osprey]

10 FREAKING hours of active afk and all i get is this much, didnt make it in time for my daily reset

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/bIALv.gif

[narrow vapor]

5th sov....from a special case

i got all boats grinding sov fury except 1 lonely unupgraded one, which found 5 SOV artifacts before all the other ones found the fury

[bleak gazelle]

that 8-12 hour range was for getting any statues, not necessarily a relevant amount

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, up to frost mask/thread are pretty fast. generally find all of those before a single one past it

[narrow vapor]

wdym with the last part?

[bleak gazelle]

you generally find all the first artifacts up to thread before getting a single one from the islands past that

due to the odds

[narrow vapor]

its 2% for artifact now

i think 0.01-0.03 for sov fury is nice

[stable temple]

I just leave my SB there farming plunderous kills on it now

But it seems like plunder mobs dont work with multikill? they only drop 1 statue if they drop

[cyan mantle]

Hi ace

[bleak gazelle]

i mean if you want cards and kills that's a good way to do it. if you want statues, I hope you've got some people afking there

MK won't affect active statue drops, just afk

[stable temple]

Oh what really. Thats tragic

[narrow vapor]

what statues?

[stable temple]

Doesnt multikill work on every other first slot drop? Why not statues

[narrow vapor]

should i start grinding hats?

I feel like tons of slab potential is wasted

[faint wigeon]

no

[narrow vapor]

and slab boosts many things

[bleak gazelle]

special case so you can't grind a bajillion in a day?

same thing with mk not affect forge talent while active, though that might have initially been a bug

[narrow vapor]

first ever .02% from iron chest! idk why my chance went up

[young nest]

What's this? I'm getting it every time I enter wurm map

[junior dune]

A new message intended for when you get enough kills for a new portal. Seems like it's somehow broken for you

[faint wigeon]

saw this message everywhere but on a portal map, like in rift

[young nest]

Makes sense ty

[teal lynx]

Mods already got pinged

[zinc torrent]

is it possible to gat all 3 golden chests in w5 colo?

aspicious aura instant clear only gives around 30 mln

[young nest]

Wtf spam

<@&438523268589420544>

[faint wigeon]

thats more than spam as well x)

[faint wigeon]

okay nvm this may be spam now

[teal lynx]

Just a bot spamming it in every channel

[zinc torrent]

anyways just block bot and its readable, anyways back to question, is 3rd golden chest even possible in w5 colo?

[faint wigeon]

every channel + making sure its always his message thats sent last

[teal lynx]

I think that's just on like a 30 second timer

can just block for now or endure it. Mods will take care sooner or later

[faint wigeon]

yeah cant read chat in peace nowadays

[teal lynx]

You might be right. They only send if someone sends something in here
This is totally just a test message

[teal frigate]

how do u activate that statue thing in the caverns world 5, which character is worthy

[teal lynx]

Every character is worthy. Just afk there at least an hour

[cyan mantle]

@surreal ember spam

[teal lynx]

Your afk gains should look like this, but with bravery instead of justice

[teal frigate]

thank you

can i just use time candy

[teal lynx]

You can not

[teal frigate]

thanks

[frank viper]

is there a new buff for sailing that upgrades the chests? cause my SG unending loot search on both preset are at zero but it still upgrade my loot pile

[viral granite]

u can find better chests, not just upgrade them

also why would u have unending loot at 0

[cyan mantle]

Hi

[viral granite]

hi

[lone dagger]

A better map to farm this gift 🎁 its take too long here

[faint wigeon]

wurm on bubo

[viral granite]

^

[cyan mantle]

My presents haven't reset

[viral granite]

wdym

[cyan mantle]

They didn't reset back to 0/50 today

[viral granite]

i read preset for whatever reason

[faint wigeon]

did your daily reset pass already?

[viral granite]

maybe ur reset is off and u already did them ?

[cyan mantle]

No

[cyan mantle]

I haven't

[faint wigeon]

present reset on daily reset

[cyan mantle]

Hmmm

51 minutes left nvm

[tardy yew]

my resource prints are like 35-45% higher wuth those new skill foods found in the presents

also i recommend using active es at slimes for farming them

[faint wigeon]

still haven't resampled, too lazy to do them

[tardy yew]

do them trust🙏🏻

and if you do don't forget cards
i sampeld once and forgot cards so i had to teleport 4 times to do again
and then i forgot i have the troll card and did it....4 more times

[faint wigeon]

nooo I don't wanna sample things for 30min and go back to early prints because I forgot one little bonus

[faint wigeon]

bhahaha yeah it happened to me

tho now my sampling card setup are mostly the same beside 1 or two card thanks to skilling mastery making some skilling cards passive

[viral granite]

why just mostly?

[magic crypt]

do presents not autoloot?

[faint wigeon]

mostly because I had 1 (2 when I didn't have nightmare chiz card) card that was for str/agi/wis or mana/hp

[faint wigeon]

it should as its a dropped item

[magic crypt]

no I mean on summer event coolers autolooted even though I didn't have autoloot purchased

is it not the case for presents?

[faint wigeon]

idk

[magic crypt]

cuz it seems like it ain't

82 presents in my inventory, but it says I looted 33

[velvet thistle]

How big is the idleon majik hole bonus that increases the effect that weapon power has on dmg? Is it a true multiplier?

[tardy yew]

Now there are 6 worlds at the moment
each world has 1 crystal mob
every crystal mob has the color of the map it represents
now following that we can look at which colors are missing
like pink or grey/black
This means
that we can use our imagination and think of what the next worlds would be
i have two by now
1 aqua world although we have two blues
2 Void which is self explanatory

[velvet thistle]

Void world for world 8 would be epic ngl

[tardy yew]

right??

omg i have an idea
CANDY WORLD!

man I'm smort and big brain😎

[velvet thistle]

If we go by idle skilling, it would be like the lunar isle / a moon world

That kinda overlaps with the theme of w4 tho

So not sure

[tardy yew]

yeah kinda

[faint wigeon]

water themed map like opposite of w5 (tho with ice world its kinda same type), future-ish world also maybe?

[tardy yew]

yk what really bothered me
there was no astronaut in the ocean reference in w4
i mean that's the first thing you'd do if you make a map in space

[solid lantern]

feelsbadman best run so far though

[vernal relic]

should i stop getting bucket fill rate after getting the upgrade in measurement?

[tardy yew]

cyber punk like with neon mobs

that's where you can have a pink crystal mob
like candy world

[velvet thistle]

Depends on how high lvl it is and how many lvls you can comfortably get per run

But yeah you should definitely stop prioritising it

I got mine to around lvl 320 and im good with that for now

I think you always wanna grab villager exp and opals ofc

The rest is up to u

[lethal canyon]

i got the grottos open from cave, what class is the best to use in there to farm cards and the statue, dg RIGHT?

sorry caps.

[peak verge]

Active SB for cards. AFK with dr/mk/fight afk for statues.

[spiral path]

I just got this bug too. 0 unending loot on any character presets, yet only getting 29/30 chests on 12 hour claims

[empty wharf]

Check minimum chest.

[spiral path]

worth a shot, one sec

[solar seal]

no its a known bug caused by lava attempting to fix certain talents

[spiral path]

nope, minimum chest is set to the normal one

[solar seal]

hotfix reverted the change so its back to normal but mobile will still have issue

[spiral path]

oh, the strike out bug fix from the patch notes?

I'm on PC, but hadn't closed the game since the patch, I just patched it again, thanks!

farming the drops this event feels much more tedious, I've been farming beans overnight for golden food, I'm 41k kills into my daily reset and only up to 44 drops. Yesterday bubo got in 4 CCs before I got all 50 boxes

[solar seal]

lava changed the drop rate for event boxes so it is more difficult. pretty much everyone is feeling it across the board

[spiral path]

which is unfortunate for people who don't play basically 24/7 like my friend.

[velvet thistle]

What is a good hour mark to stop at for the justice monument?

I just unlocked it today

[spiral path]

the guide has a number, whatever you need to start with 25 coins, like 2581 or something

[solar seal]

depends on whether you still have the other time-dependent jail grinds to do. if you are still fairly early, the 300 hr mark for 1 dismissal isn't a bad idea

[novel arrow]

Any tips for early sailing?
(It feels so slow)

[simple wadi]

It is, but it'll speed up. There's a ton of sailing speed bonuses, so eventually your problem will be the 2 hour minimum travel times.

[novel arrow]

Okay,,

It's taking 3 hours on the first islam currently 🥲

Sailing lvl 9

[velvet thistle]

Im basically done with lab and divinity rn

Im gonna shoot for 300 then thanks

[velvet thistle]

The biggest tip for sailing is unlocking ephaunt on the divinity altar

So get on that divinity grind

[simple wadi]

I didn't know the islands had religions, but 3 hours is close to the minimum travel time so you're not doing bad.

[peak verge]

Improve some of the cheap sources of sailing speed, get tusk ancient form as soon as possible and then the sailing speed artifact from island 3 (or 4?).

[simple wadi]

Also, do not have points assigned to SB's Unending Loot talent. It's a bad talent that actually slows your sailing progress.

[gilded elk]

Isn't this extremely strong? Extra harp resources= more upgrades to the extra wishes. And the cost doesn't scale

[novel arrow]

I have 3 boats🙂

[novel arrow]

I have till Goat, so Ig it will be fairly easy...

[marble lotus]

should I statue farm (for the quest) on vman with crystals or resources?

[sturdy dagger]

why should i renew my bell? what do i get doing it?

[wanton ruin]

how do i boost my divinity points earnings, i afked for 47 minutes and still got 0 https://prnt.sc/kygFLdsit88r

[sturdy dagger]

u get divinity points by afking at least 1 hour

[wanton ruin]

ahhh

[sturdy dagger]

u can boost with ES skill tree and divinities bonus

[wanton ruin]

can u check dm

[simple wadi]

You will eventually get an engineering schematic that gives you 2x or 3x bell rings, and you'll want to reset when you unlock it to get the full benefit from it. Also, if you are unhappy with the bell ringing bonuses (such as if you want bucket fill rate, but the bonuses keep going into harp), you can reset and try again.

[fickle cave]

Why are my little people failing me I have like 8 of them on mushroom and none gave my my artifact

[simple wadi]

Get gooder

[fickle cave]

Nah it definitely my men and not me ima just keep blaming them

[sturdy dagger]

hmmm i see...

[fickle cave]

Like 1 literally has a 90 percent chance

To get a artifact

[late copper]

90% increased chance. If chance is 0.0001, that's only 0.00019

[velvet thistle]

Just keep opening chests

Ur situation sounds extremely normal

How high is the percentage of artifact chance displayed below the chest when you tap it?

On average

[bleak gazelle]

yeehaw, look at that def stamp

[teal lynx]

The cost does scale 😅
It increase by 1 wish every 5 levels 🫡

It's still strong, but not as op as it might soon now

[opal bloom]

Uh has anyone else bought the "World 5 stuff" wish yet and encountered it messing up their gaming?

[wild osprey]

is it just me or does right tilt in arcade absolutly suck? no tilt gets me more luck to the right

[bleak gazelle]

right tilt has higher highs and lower lows

[opal bloom]

Nevermind apparently my gaming garden just gets infinitely slower when I'm in the W5 town...

[gilded elk]

have you seen that happen ingame? Wiki doesn't show an increase in cost

[teal lynx]

I have seen it in the code

W4 , W5, W6 wish behave the same way

[bleak gazelle]

Yep, if you're not at instant gaming speed then you want to stay outside of W5 town to game

[opal bloom]

Oh wild never knew that. Was wondering why I wasn't insta popping for a minute

ty and sick kate lockwell pfp 😛

[bleak gazelle]

You can use this calc to see how close to instant gaming you are, too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259

[opal bloom]

oh it's got a nugget calculator too? interesting

[alpine gate]

I got a question I recently got a new phone and I don’t know what my sign in is because when I first installed Idleon it auto made an account what do I do

[bleak gazelle]

if you're playing on android it should just be tied to whatever google account you had signed in or selected

i assume similar for iOS

[teal lynx]

Looked at the code again and instead of every 5 levels it seems to be every 20 levels (damn misinfo I spread )

Good for us. But it still scales

[bleak gazelle]

smh my head. misinfo spreader #1

[teal lynx]

I knew I saw it scaling and I thought it was the same as the other world things
(Need to go now. I can't defend myself more)

[fickle cave]

Hey question

I'm trying collect all boss card to boost damage

What is the middle one

[fickle cave]

Thx

[bleak gazelle]

mini bosses come before the world bosses for each world

[fickle cave]

But what those 3 bottom never seen them thought there no w6 boss

[bleak gazelle]

correct, you can only get them from cardpacks

[fickle cave]

Oh

That suck

[tawny veldt]

how can i give my crew a new task. Like switch from looting to exploring a cloud?

[tardy yew]

theres a super hidden button on the left of the map in which you view yo- wait a minute...what are you doing here?

someone finally did it i guess
well done!

or unwell if your amor still sucks like that

[tawny veldt]

wooooooooooow

im close to getting full void. Have void weapon and my dmg is finally yellow... im doing good :3

[tawny veldt]

and ty btw

[tardy yew]

ooo happy for you!

since when r u here?

[tawny veldt]

like 1 week maybe a lil more 8-10 days or smt

[tardy yew]

how many gods you have yet?

[tawny veldt]

2, should get 3rd soon tho. if luck is on my side

[tardy yew]

set all characters (not alk if you want but many)
on divinity and do until you have the bunny god

then you can stop doing them for a while

and gaming gets super op once you unlock the imports so immediately buy them if you can

and....get v man
he's the dom doretto of idleon
all your chars get way more damage and buffs through him
that might take you a week or two
use candy only on bloodbones

[tawny veldt]

on it

[lyric glen]

o.O .. You just got to w5 with this.. If you don't mind me asking, how is your pusher's level so low?

[craggy willow]

Any chance that Unending Loot Search might now be active without any points spent as long there are points in Symbols of Beyond? My ships keep cycling, costing me half the loot.

[magic crypt]

less than 50 hours till I get the goat

[tawny veldt]

162? i think for a W5 rush thats pretty normal, no?

[lyric glen]

Idk what the norm is, sorry.. Are you using a guide as a reference? If so, may I see it?

[magic crypt]

less than 50 hours till I get everyone into lab jail

[wanton ruin]

does any1 know if the snapshot method is patched ?

[tawny veldt]

no guide, why u asking? I just pushed to W5 and now chill a bit, get gear up, lvl, etc

[lyric glen]

Aite, I did the same. Active push DK to w5, but I'm almost 30 levels above you and I'm wondering if I'm missing something fundamental ._.

[tawny veldt]

mhh weird idk

[rotund rivet]

Hello, may I ask where this is

[terse verge]

Walk behind the shop npc

[rotund rivet]

Thank you!

[hard grove]

Any tips to do this task with an ES?

[old mesa]

can i change the linked gods on Idleon Majik

[zinc palm]

yeah just use the arrows beside the names of the gods, itll go through it in unlock order

[old mesa]

ok thanks

[wild osprey]

can i do this vial tomorrow or should i be waiting till i get the quest

i assume i can do it ahead of time but wanted to make sure

[zinc palm]

how much damage should i be hitting by the time i reach the w5 boss
im on the purgatory stalker thingies and hitting 15m max damage which feels a bit low

[wild osprey]

i think the maxiumum recommended damage is like 20-30m also depending on the class?

[zinc palm]

doing it on divine knight

[wild osprey]

this is in pinned messages

[zinc palm]

oh woulda expected it to be a fair bit higher
thanks though

[wild osprey]

i mean if you wanna use one of the other classes it is!

if you're looking for a challenge or something

[golden wing]

Still like 10 minutes

[wild osprey]

i believe manually doing it you can have less damage but will still take time?

[turbid plaza]

Just get a ton of damage

[hard grove]

How much

I have about 3.7.b on es so laser hits for around 200b

[wild osprey]

i mean this was enough for me to do it

[hard grove]

Ah so just get like triple the damage alr

I’ll attempt at around 7-8

[turbid plaza]

Do you have mega crit?

[wild osprey]

can probably do less that took like 10-15 sec

[hard grove]

Not yet

[turbid plaza]

You might be able to do it rn if you had it

[hard grove]

I’m a couple seconds off

I just attempted to see my crit chance and it’s 98.5

[turbid plaza]

Statue farming will get that up

[hard grove]

Anyone happy hour?

[turbid plaza]

I would but I’m about to leave

[hard grove]

Ah

[wild osprey]

when is it?

i could probabbly go for a run cause i lacking on my dungeons

[hard grove]

It says it ends in about 25 minutes

[wild osprey]

next happy hour for me is in 6 hours?

is it different between servers?

[hard grove]

Huh

What server are you in

[wild osprey]

cog 4, but any server i go to its the same timer for me

[hard grove]

Huh

Idk

[wild osprey]

nvm

found the issue

i had massive desync

[wild osprey]

if you still wana do it what server

[hard grove]

Lana 2

Lava

Should I join ur party or u join mine

[wild osprey]

im finally in yours

was a bit of back and forth there

[hard grove]

Ur choice

Idleon mobile typing is not the best

[wild osprey]

ah

come to cookie 5

more people at least, now just need someone to accept

[solar drift]

@teal lynx you want to do quick hh ?

[iron hamlet]

what divinity level gives?

[solar seal]

-Access to better stances
-Better minor link bonuses (scales off divinity level and big p yellow bubble)
-Work toward account wide divinity levels for skill mastery and total skill levels for measurement bonuses

[iron hamlet]

thx

[smoky coyote]

soo close i can almost lick it

[hard grove]

Alright I did that but now I need to do all of that over again on 7 characters so ittl be a while until I get kruk staff

[tidal cedar]

I just realized that the bubbles are cheaper to purchase when logged in with the respective class. But that doesn't seem to work for beginner and yellow bubbles?

[lilac vault]

see: bubble 2 for cauldrons

also see the respective cost down of all bubbles of a color bubble

[rich beacon]

so the increase max multi ore/fish/bugs you know all that does that give you an extra 100% or does it only raise the cap by 100%?

[fresh barn]

hey guys I just got to world five but I’ve been pretty much neglecting every other aspect of the game, I was just curious on what I should be doing? I have good enough damage to continue pushing world five but would it be more beneficial to go back and work on progressing previous material?

[rich beacon]

ALCHEMY

[rich beacon]

but honestly right now youll wanna do divinity grind just to get it out of the way asap so you can start the lab grind

[fresh barn]

So just throw everyone on the alter until I assume TranQi?

[rich beacon]

until you unlock goat

[fresh barn]

ohh okay and then what Lab?

[rich beacon]

well goat lets you get divinity gains when you have characters in the lab

[fresh barn]

OHHH okay that makes more sense

[rich beacon]

so unless you have doot you need to get some range in your lab

[fresh barn]

I don’t have doot, I see i see

[rich beacon]

my avg pixle range per lab character is 1500

and id 1000% assume people have miles more then that without doot and only need to leave 1/2 characters slotted into lab

[fresh barn]

I think my average right now is like 130ish

[timid drift]

i dont understand the point of renewing the bell, can someone explain to me?

[rich beacon]

lets you roll for better pings

with some of the upgrades from the engi you can get more then 1 ping for each time you ring the bell giving you up to 3 levels on 1 skill

so its to push your gains with those skills if you use 3 rolls that are all 1 level of a skill vs 1 roll thats 3 levels it saves you 2 scaling rings to get the same effect

[timid drift]

hm, i get it now, thanks

[woven ice]

How long is it taking everyone to get there boxes? cause ive been sitting in a map for about 40 mins and I only haave 34 boxes

[rich beacon]

took me about 10 min last night

[woven ice]

What map?

[rich beacon]

ummmm wont really be a help here but end of world 6

with bubo

but you could use citringe with DK

and it should be pretty quick

[woven ice]

Ok ill move to that

[rich beacon]

normally those flat maps are really good for farming event stuff

[woven ice]

Cause ive been doing es on clamie

[bleak gazelle]

bubo with 200 tenta will be fastest. DK is fine on any map you can easily clear, too, wurms or cintringes is probably best

[timid drift]

are samurai guardians good too?

[rich beacon]

i mean lots of mobs for bubo

[woven ice]

I don't have 200 tenta yet, im close with around 180 ish, and I would do wurms but i cant 1-shot them yet

[bleak gazelle]

samurais are fine for bubo, probably too big for DK unless you've got max boomerrang. minichiefs would be a better DK map

[next spindle]

is the lamp wish for 12 hours for bravery not working? i had 10 hours left till next game and bought the wish and i still got 10 hours...

[rich beacon]

it boosts progress to your afk time there

not lowering time to play it again

[next spindle]

aham thank you

[bleak gazelle]

yeehaw, first page done

[zinc torrent]

\0/ huge increase today
Was just thinking.. it's pointless to get excited your nuggets would go up.

[modern ocean]

Its like expecting the 11th piece

[modest grail]

maybe im crazy but constellation e-7 (wurm constellation) seems to not work right now?

got the tome notification for killing 200 wurms in 38 seconds but no progress on the constellatin

nevermind, you ahve to wait the entire 100 secs

[dapper prism]

Gratz, "it's pointless" until the dopamine hits you and you get that rush

[dapper prism]

Just curious, do you have the equinox stuff unlocked yet?

[zinc torrent]

Nope not yet.. working on greenstacks and refinery atm

[clever furnace]

how can i tell what god my character is linked to

how tf does this even work

[unkempt musk]

guys, if i reach 2h in every island, i stop levelling speed?

[fallow aurora]

click unlink and it should show u

[fallow aurora]

there are ways to decrease minimum sailing time but generally yes

[urban geyser]

Hello, i got King Doot pet, so i pushed W5 divinity, but it seems like his bonus is not working or something (Found Fix: Need to lvl up divinity on all characters to lvl 2)

[vivid coral]

30.51 seconde for chaotic kattlekruk 💀

[solar seal]

more info in case you need it https://i.imgur.com/AKe8Jux.png

[simple bramble]

can someone higher lvl explain what "unobtainable" means here?

[solar seal]

its what you think it means

they are coded in game but disabled/unobtainable atm

[simple bramble]

like everything below that? so no point getting lvl 18?

or just the rift guy..?

[solar seal]

if you look caverfully, you'll see that level 18 includes the bucket upgrade just above unobtainable

before the recent change adding justice, this used to be part of 17

so those folks that were able to get the schematic before it was pushed into 18 did not need to bother leveling to 18

if you missed it - its worth considering

[simple bramble]

100% thank you

[solid cove]

Yummy

[tranquil flower]

Ive had 5 of the 8 mutations in gaming for months How do I get the next one? the chance is always in the single digit percents

[paper sail]

That's normal. Get more speed / more evo chance, click more chemical plants. Nothing else to it

You were asking mutations, not evos lol. Uh same thing basically though. Roll as often as you can mentally stand it, don't save up DNA. The chance doesn't scale well.

[tranquil flower]

gotcha

thanks!

[slender lantern]

Does the pious at heart bubble bonus for divinity points actually show the number increase at the divinity altar?

[covert axle]

Can someone help? I think I broke my 3d printer. I am already connected to the lab*2 printer output bonus and harriep from pocket divinity in hole but my printer only displays in yellow and not purple. Any tips?

This happened just suddenly

[bleak gazelle]

Common visual bug, most notable when on DK, but since Hole/pocket div came out it's more prevalent

[bleak gazelle]

It's for Div xp btw and it should reflect it

[slender lantern]

Ohhhhh dang it. I thought it was for points. Must’ve read it wrong. Thank you

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle got early this morning

[covert axle]

Thanks I fixed it, it seemed I needed to just take a sample of any resource then It got fixed. Tho in my case, I used a DK to take the sample.

[gentle niche]

Is there an amount of power of 10 of the fractal fly that the engineer needs or anyone else

[bleak gazelle]

"fixed" like i said, it's pretty common post caverns update, so don't be too scared if you see it. you may occasionally want to check your lab links though

[dreamy agate]

when I have 6 bell improvement ethods, does cleaning the bell do something more? upgrading them or such?

[formal rover]

what class do you show the justice monument to unlock it? i feel like i'm losing my mind i feel like i've tried every class and i have searched everywhere, can't find the answer

[hardy bloom]

is this actually good (like if compared to the lowest endercaptain val and the highest EC val)

[lilac vault]

it's not clouds, which is a good start

[hardy bloom]

yeah vv thankful for that

btw at this point where im kinda far at sailing, will i ever get this guy

[clever furnace]

oh you dont get one unlink per char on divinity?

[golden wing]

This is my first event and I’m wondering how many event points I can expect to get I’m wanting to get the printer thing and all afk gain and wondering if I need to save up for 10 spins or even more.

[lilac vault]

ya gotta dash the hopes of a prospective captain
||hire then fire||

[cosmic grotto]

what do i do at the harp i dont really understand it and there aint much info on the wiki abt it

[dreamy agate]

you pluck the strings as if you play it. can setup string types beforehand

[cosmic grotto]

how do i pluck them. is there supposed to be a button for that?

[dreamy agate]

by mouse or finger holding through them

[cosmic grotto]

oh i see thanks

[silk scaffold]

hey guys, how to use this cosmic balls?

is it only when the upgrade is already maxed?

[dreamy agate]

yes

[silk scaffold]

tks

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, when you find a captain that you do want to upgrade. first just buy one you don't want then fire him, then get the one you actually want

[bleak gazelle]

any class, just needs to be afk there for one hour (actual afk. get off the character and be on another or close the game)

[formal rover]

holy shit i had a character logged there so i just got it

thank you so much i was losing it

[fickle cave]

I need 200 kill on orb before 80 sec where vest spot

[spiral oxide]

probably citringes or worms

[kindred tide]

Just had this drop..

[fickle cave]

Damn nvm it 400 kill rip

[solar seal]

you do'nt get to choose wehre to do it. the achievement tells you which map you to do it on

[potent socket]

you start getting the Buffs and bonuses from each one as you unlock them for all characters

[solar seal]

That is not how doot works

[potent socket]

yes it does I have him

[solar seal]

And i'm tellign you... we have hundreds of folks who benefit from all gods w/o a single oen unlocked

[potent socket]

and how does that work

[bleak gazelle]

all those sweet omni procs without having had to sit on the altar

[solar seal]

as long as the character that is active is level 2 divinity (which the infographic tells you) - doot activates all minor and major links (except purrmep minor - which the infographic also tells you)

[potent socket]

so people are getting it all without even sitting on the altar

[solar seal]

the onl thing that isn't active and available - is blessings - which the infographic also tells you

[potent socket]

but there's still a benefit of unlocking all the gods

[solar seal]

we get countless people all the time asking about omni procs (^ waht ace is referring to) right when they get into w5 and get a few levels into divinity

the infographci never tells you not to unlock them

if you actually read it

[potent socket]

reading it I just thought it was contradicting itself so I had to ask

[junior arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[solar seal]

the wording in the graphic was purposefully chosen in the manner it is currently written - which is a revision to the older version to try to make things as clear as possible

[faint wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1304277791331582032/Tonysaysreadinghard.gif

[potent socket]

knock that shit off

[bleak gazelle]

I suppose we can make that first * level 2 Divinity

[jade fossil]

I personally think the Beach Nametag is way better

the 5% all stat is a kiss from heaven

[bleak gazelle]

the 3% one is the condolence prize

[jade fossil]

thank God I got the storage space from the wheel

[bleak gazelle]

reading hard is a sacred idleon player rite

[solar seal]

i think you are misremembering something. the beach (island adventurer) dosen't have all stat

[bleak gazelle]

get one for me next

[potent socket]

so I get the major and minor I just don't get the blessing

[solar seal]

blessings are the reason why you need to unlock gods still w/ doot. since a) you won't have access to them and b) you can't level them w/o being unlocked

[potent socket]

right you cannot level up blessings unless they're unlocked

so I'm still going to need the grind to unlock all the blessings xd

[faint wigeon]

yeah but with doot its easier and you don't have to care about changing gods every here and there

[potent socket]

the ones you equip don't even matter

[solar seal]

another thing is you can go straight into lab grind to piggyback lab/div at same time

whereas non-dooters have to trudge until goat to get that benefit

[potent socket]

I forgot what's the benefit of continuing to get lab XP

if I am able to connect to every single thing

I forgot some mechanics I took a long ass break just came back maybe 4 days ago or 5 days ago

[solar seal]

1st goal - 75 on each character to have full chip slots, 2nd goal (post-w6) - account wide 2100 levels to get access to all 3 w6 jewels

[faint wigeon]

you continue to lab jail to be able to connect to all the node, also later you unlock even more lab node

[solar seal]

adding onto 1st goal is getting div to 40 while in lab so you get access to tranqi so you can continue getting div xp while doing other activities

[faint wigeon]

that as well I guess

[potent socket]

I believe I already have all chip slots unlocked

and the account wide level as well

you don't mean 2,100 levels in lab do you

[solar seal]

then only thing is letting lab levels accrue while getting div up to sufficient levels to support +arctis talent levels

yes i mean account wide total 2100 lab levels

cost of these jewels is too prohibitive to get them from rotation. they also are not part of the jewel shop. so grinding out all 2100 lab levels is the only realistic way to get all 3

[potent socket]

oh shit okay I understand now dam

[pastel kayak]

Just got a master recipe at sky doggies

Like 3 I gotten there now

[rotund zinc]

Are golden meat pies worth it to help me survive a bit longer? using a hp potion and 3 foods but have an open slot

[fickle lake]

trying to get journeyman wep is so pain 50 golden owl

[fickle lake]

are u an active or a afk farmer, if your an afk doesnt matter if you have 100% survivability, but if your active could add another food to stall for longer for your other food to go off cd

[rotund zinc]

mix of active and afk but mostly talking about active

[fickle lake]

add another food then, also what are you active on? Things like dk will alr have enough in built survivability but things like ES dont

[bleak gazelle]

could throw a speed pot in there too

[fickle lake]

meanwhile my alchemy is looking horrid

i cant hit that 3.7%

[rotund zinc]

ES, I forget the name but the 3rd area in W5, I have 100% survivability but my hp will rarely drop to 100-300

[fickle lake]

ah, ok so heres the thing, once you get to worms (last area for w5) you gunna get 1 shotted so unless your ES is lvl 300+ its better to switch to DK as your main pusher

[rotund zinc]

Okay good to know! I'll start working on my DK then, my ES is 178 and DK is 90

[fickle lake]

also whats your gear on ES?

[rotund zinc]

Demontonite gear set, the serrated rex rings x2, moon pendant from store and the blue staff

[bleak gazelle]

ES is fine to push with, just needs more points into hp/mana

[fickle lake]

i assume your the same as me, neglect everybody and spam push ES, you should work on everybody instead of 1 pusher, sure your able to unlock bonuses faster but your gunna suffer in w6 and do alot of backtracking

[fickle lake]

work on getting next tier rings, get void armour and wep

[rotund zinc]

I don't mind having to backtrack, I have always struggled with more than one character when I play other MMO's (like wow) so it's a bit rough for me to manage multiple characters

But I am doing my best to keep them together

[fickle lake]

whats your main problem in pushing? Survivability? Damage? Kps?

[rotund zinc]

I'm not sure but my KPS is roughly 2000

well kills per hour

[fickle lake]

ah…

[rotund zinc]

I only just got to w5 though so no artifacts or gods yet

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

Welcome in btw check out the 3rd 📌 for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements

[rotund zinc]

ty! will do 🙂

[fickle lake]

In my opinion, please work on divinity, lab and everything else to backtrack, w5 scaling is incredibly hard, if possible send your idleonefficiency here ill check when i have time

[bleak gazelle]

We're also still not sure what the best split is for div/bravery (Hole/Caverns), so feel free to focus on one or the other or split however you desire

[fickle lake]

articus and harriep goes brrrrr

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, though that's not what I was talking about there

[rotund zinc]

I can't use idleonefficiency unfortnately. I log in with steam and if i try using my steam email to log in it just doesnt work

[fickle lake]

rip

[bleak gazelle]

ah, rip. yeah, we're hoping lava will work on making the api key available for that, but I wouldn't cross your fingers

[fickle lake]

almost at 10x drop rate

Dem i can alr print marble mats

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle that looking ok?

[bleak gazelle]

yep

should be ready to swap to justice whenever you get that

or gloomie farming in cavern 9 once you get there

[pastel kayak]

Not that far yet

[raven fog]

Any tips to getting mpre kilös in the hounds

[cyan mantle]

Give me 20 bucks

[rotund zinc]

Should I level DK's divine orb if I'm farming statues for onyx?

[lilac vault]

if you have to ask that i think it might be a little to early for statues

[junior arrow]

Higher orb of remembrance the longer it lasts. So if you got the points its great to level

[stiff oyster]

hey mew

hows sydney

[empty wharf]

I have a bad feeling about this with vman at 7th.

[graceful fern]

Its get worse dont worry

[rotund zinc]

Is there a way to sustain mana on my dk while active farming? he has like 300

[tawny veldt]

Potions

[rotund zinc]

Also in regards to dk farming, if i'm on beans can I spawn a crystal bean? or is there no crystal bean variant

[faint wigeon]

each world has one crystal mob, no variant for those mob, w1 is crystal carrot mob

[rotund zinc]

Ooh okay, so i dont just have to farm carrots for crystal mobs

[hardy nebula]

hello i just started divinity is there anything i should know about it for example how to get more exp on it or more efficiency?

[hardy nebula]

lv up the talent for MP in 1st talent tab.. i found out around 650 was enough for me to not lose mana

and ofc all other sources of mana are good (alch, stamps, etc)

[golden wing]

unlocking gods and then investing bits or Goldbars on the god, also task board and gem shop purchases statues exist but if just start divinity not worth going for.

[golden wing]

also if you haven't already push to unlock all 10 players first

[faint wigeon]

more exp is just getting better stances from getting higher div level, so just gotta do the waiting game in the altar

[stiff oyster]

can i get a point guide pls

[stable parrot]

For what

[faint wigeon]

. little bottom point, • slightly bigger middle point

[fallen rune]

should i

i can get over 20k to onyx

[faint wigeon]

hope this help

[stiff oyster]

bubo

[fallen rune]

ion have a single onyx yet tho but im ab to get w1 onyxes

[stiff oyster]

can i get a bubo point guide

[fallen rune]

max out resapwn and the venom ghost first

[stiff oyster]

thx

[stable parrot]

No

[stiff oyster]

. *

[fallen rune]

easy onyx tho

[stable parrot]

Literally go to tremor worms with DK for a bit

[fallen rune]

ye makes sense

[sterile bison]

Golden stop watches are way more valuable

[fallen rune]

im eventually gonna get w5 statues anyways

[stable parrot]

If you really want to spend 240 trophies on one onyx then pop off but I wouldn’t

[fallen rune]

does kechow statue rotate on that shop

cuz if it does

[stable parrot]

Doubt it

[stiff oyster]

just use the wuest reward from onyx npc

[fallen rune]

yeh itd be op

[stiff oyster]

quest*

[fallen rune]

aint enough tho