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But his upgrades are nice but maybe i should focus on the hole it self so it pushes everything else
Over thinking idleon never works
Whats lamp wishes
lamp is later down in hole
And harp
same
it's deep in the hole if you rub it itll grant you wishes
I also do that👀
You grant wishes?
Ofc
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@oblique jasper @worldly lagoon I had good eggs I think
Any reccomendations? Not sure whether to go for new arti, ancients or eldritch
Eldritch fury
G
is there any benefit to resetting the bell other than changing ring rng?
or what does it do 😭
Next conjurer point?
pocket div if you dont have doot
(the first green)
so you can link a god to all your char, then if you can enhance it you'll be able to link another (2 in total) to all char
is there a limit to how many time candies you can get from mobs in a day?
hmm
no
dont think so anyway
the only thing that limits you are boss spawns and giant rng 
using the giant mob blessing i was getting around 20 hours of time candy per like 2 hours and then after that i get nothing
just luck?
Giant increases in rarity per kill
it resets weekly the chance to spawn
h i didnt know that
just watch that number go up with every giant kill
damn..
there are also some stuff that reduces spawn odds and a big bubble in yellow cauldron that has a chance to not increase the rarity of giant mob per kill
yep thanks
oh nooo only double mine
ive been working alot on alchemy
average ppl who rushed to w6 has around 16-30x
meanwhile im sitting here with 8x
6% drop chance ones
who is your average? you mean whales no?
its most likely an alchemy or construction issue
7.3 DR 
ES, i also count as a whale
1k sgd for doot 
12 or more DR for me is a dream rn
max DR for it nice, got one as well
i was gunna buy a pack for the max drop keychain but a surgery was coming up so i didnt spend money
should i upgrade my kruk armor to marble?
why wouldnt you?
idk drop chance?
it's usually friday for us
damn nice
i'm wednesday as well now
in two days
and im at 4.2 XDD
or 36h ish maybe?
i see
well, if your on the threshold then ig you can hold off for now
im also on wednesday, timezones sucks
wait you got the chip from gamba?
gamba?
gambling i think they mean to say
fr, like lava's stream is when I have class in the morning so I can't look at his stream and/or play to get his gem drop
the gem shop gamble for chip
oh yeah i think i accidentally did
i wanna gamble too but im broke lmao
when he streams it's 1am my time xD
i think when he releases patches, it's like 12pm ish america time is it?
sure hope because if you tell me you have enough to get it then I did something wrong
feels abit hard for people to join in
it kinda sucks for me that i cant find anybody in singapore that plays idleon, nobody to guide me through irl
hi \o
idk what half these things are
singaporean here lol
but it mean i got hella lucky right?
7 to 11am, Im in class trying on my phone sometimes to hop of server x)
hi. Pls save my horrendous account, i only know how to spend money.
but erh, i can't help u anyway, i'm way behind u D:
same buddy, same
from the looks of things you live in the west and 16 yr old?
????
1 : catching bug on clammies map, 2. cooking meal, 3. spice
no la, i'm singaporean like u... i just have a bigger gacha problem
welcome to every gacha player ever.
ig yeah but luckier is getting the card doubler
wut does it do
like those shit come once every decades (next pair one is in march the other in november)
did u really spend 1k on doot? damm
double top left and bottom right card effect
sounds broken
yes it is, especially when crystal farming or DR setup in general
maxed pity fml
i'm at 89/200, not sure to push or not
im on 2x still no cc and doot
doot provides so much buffs, but the price… you might as well e6s5 characters in hsr or gi
i got 40k saved for mavuika right now haha
40k sgd…?
primogems
hey hey guys lets be happy that we have pocket divinity now for us poor fellow and non doot enjoyer
next point?
take care, get well soon
I'd go for the xp for schematic, the other first blue
i regret that decision, almost costed me my life if it wasnt for overtime to pay for surgery
treatment so expensive in sg
or well both treatment and surgery
pls dont die, you need to play idleon till the rest of your life (while being safe and sound)
or till we get to world 420 and final boss is lava
and u were still thinking of buying idleon packs?
imagine if lava somehow sees my message and reduces doot pity to 100 because of that 
I recognize a dedicated man when I see one 
true idleon gamer i see
fr?
my salary is 80k per month but surgery+treatment and painkillers, cost of living and flat deposits are around 75k per month
uh thats what I'd go for at least, need me xp so i don't really care about other, and also haven't look at the other thing conjuror can give
sounds illegally bad tbh
hmm too lazy to read the whole guide so imma just share that ss
there may be some more pointer before and after the text I sent but up to you to read it as a ||w||hole
what do i do with my bubo rn, hes just sitting in the lab :p
stay in lab 
until he's old enough for his child to take his place
thats what ischemia and lung cancer does to a guy
i should plan on getting another bubo?
u need lvl 280+ with lvl 200+ talents
damn im sorrt
1 bubo is enough
is it treatable tho?
just continue to push and when you get to w6, take all your char out of lab and go level them in the maps of w6, few days of afk and they should be around lvl 300
no cure but forever on life support of treament
if only i didnt have this i could actually have a fun time spending my money
should i rush w5 with only my main character?
nono one bubo, double elite are DK ES and SB, maybe master class will change the meta, or not at all and it'll just reinforce that meta
damn im sorry man
yes continue to push with one, you can push w5 on your other later when you have leveled them in w6
im working on my maestro as my 8th
damn hope you can get better
take your time in w5, cause u cant force w6 as time candies are banned
cant get better forever crippled, just try and enjoy life
in the meantime you could also do your chow on BB for all w1 to w3 mobs, so your BB can get bonus dmg and cooking eff AND you're already finished for one of vman requirement

well not everything :p
can try ig
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what was the command to see the merit shop?
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
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My account is so bad for where its at 
other than alchemy and construction idk what to improve on
what is a "good" W5 arena score?
if u 1 shot all as bubo right as spawn should average 30 mil
Its still good
theres no W6 arena right?
You have a lot to work on my friend
0. DIV JAIL put all char in div and get new gods, maybe start pushing when you get nobisect god (x2 kill count) so you can have that + killer brightside bonus from lab
- do your clicker, roo and owl, they give free and useful bonus like DR, afk gains, acc%, dmg%
- level your stamps, bubbles and vials (do your daily vials)
- get your prints (why is it so empty?), stop skilling and farming with your char, past w4 you don't farm mats or do skilling unless to get better tools, equip royal sampler (wave 21 acorn assault TD located at the roots of w1) when doing prints
- DONT EVER use charge syphon, level your worship level for all you char so you can equip better skull, also slush skull is kinda bad because slow speed, do your TD, also all your char but ES are at max charge, go spend them to level their worship
- max your 3d printer so all your char can print, get to kraken tower at least, get your trapper drone and automation arm
- trapper drone = better trapping life, you can place trap one all char without going to the map, start trapping pls, only 3 char have trap placed
- equip skilled dimwit on all char BUT jman, less xp they gain faster your jman can catch up to their level, when you get better at worship you'll want to level your prayers
- do your daily post office order, spend coin and material to get anvil point and max the speed, do your star sign and constellation, do your weekly boosted dungeon run (this one is a bit packed)
- try working on getting dem armor on all your char + serrated rex rings + at minimum golden tools, your tools are empty as well, thats missing free stats
- finish the quest of Dog Bone, Djonnut and Bellows (daily keys quest giver) on all char
holy shit
yeah
I'll be honest, when your said rushed w5 I didn't expected that level of rush, like it seems like you dismissed everything and just pushed, you may even rival waffle at that point
idk who waffle is but i agree with u
@faint wigeon do mine thx 
i literally put everything into my ES and pushed XD
haha saw that
okay then
so all into div but ill just keep my journeyman skilling
and do my dailies on all
i struggle with this cuz lazy
oh hey thats me
see im not alone in this
although ur obviously much better
btw should i get carried in dung so i get rings and stats?
or not focus on that
im not, i just do everything i find theres rlly no skill in an incremental game just who spend more money and time
i mean ur account is better
ur stuck at double my drop rate
god i need to hire a professional to manage my account
u dont do dungeons? Its important for you to progress that since rings and external buffs
is it worth doing solo?
cuz most find parties suck :p
there are guides
how many passes do u have though
how do i check
go to a dungeon entrance top left
does this mean if i have 100 kills i have additional 1210% DR on portal mobs??
your rank 30 and 36 passes, do u have emperor rings, max dungeon talents, max special talents and keychains that you need?
not even close
continue doing dungeons during happy hour, your passes boosts drops
i need a few more happy hour dungeons
121% not 1210.
yeah
i think @faint wigeon is still roasting me
he totally is
nah his roasting my account, his gunna say along the lines of, thank god you have lung cancer cause this account is giving me lung cancer

LMAO DONT SAY THAT
12.1 per kill so 100 kills = 100*12.1 no?
its additive not multiplicative.
pretty sure per kill means this
additive. 12.1%x112.1% not, 12.1%x100
so if i kill a mob it adds 12.1% to my DR for portal mobs right?
if i was at 9x it would be 9.12
and each kill adds 12.1
so after 2 kills it would be 9.24
am i correct or not
ok say your base multiplier is 100%, you kill 1 mob now its 100%x112.1%, now your new multiplier is 112.1% but your next kill will be 112.1%x112.1% which will be 125.664%
theres too much math and the math i did is wrong anyways, cause multikill increases base mats drops, luck as well etc
tbh didn't find that much think for you that you aren't already working on, i'd say you're already on a good track (you're kinda ahead of me in some aspect
- level stamps (min 3k-3k5 maybe), bubbles (early bubble at least 80-90+) and vials, spend coin and mats to get anvil point into speed (you can max coin its less that 2 lustre coin)
- get your vman highest skiller in w1w2w3 skills
- do your equinox
- do them chow on BB
- golden tools on all char min and void armor + weapon
- get your 10 daily keys, do the quest to unlock them on all char
- wtf you doin with your traps x) get better traps for all and do only nature xp traps on vman, get better skulls ofc as well, work on TD so also level boulder a bit more, frozone and stormcaller as well
never i'd do it again 
additive means it stacks per kill, multiplicative means it multiplies it by the amount per kill thats how i remembered it if im correct
da hell is this
||incoming|| master class 
waiting for the next update
ooooohhhh
- Okay fair enough but need to have more gold multi now
- Vman is stuck in hole will pull him out soon
- Oml the stupid 5 trophies and the constructions
- Uh breeding is killing me no new spices so kinda deserting my bb atm
- Okay yeh fair enough
- yeh true but waiting on giant reset first
- salts…
tho its been there for like 1-2year or more i reckon
its not really a spoiler anymore xD
WHERE IS DA FUTURE CONTENT BLOG MAN
also work on your prints
shh
112.5 + 112.5 + 112.5= 337.5
112.5 X 3= 337.5
yeah divide it by 100 you get x3 DR
what is the minimum damage i need to beat nightmare kattlekruk on a ES
minimum dmg is 1
tho it might take you some years
uh?
as in 1 > 0?
I reckon people said 80bil?
or maybe the 80 was for the bad class like BB or vman
112.5x112.5%x112.5%=142.38
112.5+112.5%=126.5+112.5%=142.31
how much damage do i need for normal kattle on ES?
like 30-35m
it starts out small but it scales hard
20-25b dmg is real slow, 80-100b+ should do the work ig
ofc if you work on what was pointed earlier you'll get huge bonus 😈
u scare me
his numbers are for nightmare not normal xD
fuck it big number = big DR 
Hole is so fun, its lab jail but worse
i was kind on this one 
masterclass for bb better be like you sac some hp to force respawn stuff, cause every single class excluding vman has a way to respawn mobs
Where can we get w2 DNA gun?
also yeah @fickle lake @dense ridge book your talents (whatever I don't feel like saying where)
anvil tab 4
pincer
lava likes to be a troll, masterclass for bb probably throws flowers at enemies or something
okie
Need raise cap to 200 
w2 splicer also grows testicles
my automation arm only lvl 3
whats your max rn?
159
saw that, anyway use them the more books you hold the slower the next one will be so better get as close as the 1000 booked talent for 200 max talent
ok will do
also is it just me or has there been a decrease in cap for talent 1? For some reason like bb i upgrade raise talent level cap for fist of strength it doesnt raise cap
You probably had the Vman talent for strength leveled -> Upgraded strength on your BB -> Reset the Vman talents and now are in 'Strength debt'
or just on the fighting preset
oh… 
@teal lynx them good eggs?
They will certainly help you with unlocking new pets 
But they can also be upgraded another 5 times or so 
Keep getting sheepie pet when breeding that one
Im in w5,
What armour should be my goal?
(I currently have Dementia w4)
should i use pop obols for my dk?
chiz helmet and body with void pant and boot
with proly tenacity rings from flurbo shop of dungeon and chiz scarf and its upgrade
Okay, so some people are saying that or Troll
just put your DR obols on whichever char you're using to farm
is this good or should i change em a bit
i think thats fine?
How's mine? Is mine good?
uh im not that far in the harp to know what half of these does
also dont even remember anything the people in this chat said about the harp

Fair
Also, rjfswopjfoawfwajspofr I got so excited to see +9 essence gain from a Justice chest that I didn't notice the bonus next to it was +1 opal until after I clicked...
I even don't know what Harp is
I mean I reached it, but didn't understood it much
I'm lost on divinity rn.
I'm total lab level 1410 & Divinity 862. My characters are all in the 80-90 divinity range but I don't have the last god unlocked yet.
I currently need 8 characters to activate all lab nodes (This is including Artifact attraction and slab sovereignty)
Do I switch those 8 characters to Arctis on Mindful style to push for the last god? Do I need divinity points for anything else other than bubbles once I have all gods unlocked?
Only for God Ranks but that's if you have nothing else to afk on.
So switching to Arctis for a few days to get the last god and then to bunny on my lab characters is the way to go?
How's your bravery/justice looking?
my what?
The hole.
You keep saying arctis - but arctis doesnt get you div points. I hope you mean goat
Sit the character on the altar with Arctis on.
Does Goat give divinity points as well as exp? When I googled the reddit posts said it didn't
the new content? Have not done that much yet. I'm still desperately trying to catch up with W6 progress. My account is in shambles.
oh boy. i would never be relying on reddit cause they informed you wrong
Idk what you read but that ain't it.
the major link from goat - the entire purpose is to piggy back divinity pt/xp gain off of lab xp
its why 1 of the first breakpoints in the div grind is getting goat unlocked - so you shift your roster from div altar to lab
You should let it work in the background to unlock pocket divinity at least.
you should never be utilizing the altar after having goat unlocked unless you just need to change gods or check info
Right, so I goat+mindful until I get the last god then switch to other gods?
yes
Pretty much.
Hey, I can regularly save 10-20k green bits per day, should I save for the console box? or how should I spend it? I have pretty much everything at a 100 green bits per update rn so idk if its worth to spend them or just save for the console
then like delgado mentioned - god ranks is the "infinite grind" after unlocking all gods. getting the first few aren't too terribly difficult but it gets progrsesively harder. you'll end up needing to do lab grind to 2100 for the w6 jewels so you should be able to get at least a few ranks
Assuming whatever you read on reddit wasn't downright lying, Arctis and Goat don't work at the same time for the purpose of getting divinity points remotely. You still need to manually upload chars into lab for goat to work.
I can't imagine what else you could've possibly read on the topic to draw that conclusion otherwise.
Okay, got my divinity setup fixed for now. Thank you so much
Are you in the hole? Hole gets you big big gaming gains which will help you save up
The box is for most people a 2x - 3x increase in bits so it isn't great. If your upgrades truly cost 100 green bits (not k, right? just 100) then it's definitely worth spending your bits -> Especially the "Base value" in the fertlizer is a great investment. That's a ~7% increase for every level
Ive been killing suggmas for what feels like an eternity now, my deathnote is at over 800,000,000 kills, but the recipe for the beginner things still doesnt drop. also if i look at the suggma cards its not dark anymore, which means it says i got it? but i didnt? what am i doing wrong
!recipedrop
Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.
^ this is for your "it's not dark" question
very soon!
Recipes also only count "base kills" that means kills before multikill, kill per kill and kill multipliers (The 2x kill lab node, Nobisect, Killrings or the current kill per kill ballot bonus)
i see, thx
but do you guys have any tips on how to get those knucklers already?
ive been seriously killing suggmas for months now lmao
The best thing is to not worry about it for now and come back when your drop rate is higher 😅
the average is ~1k royal urns - so you are still below the average. just need more DR, throw more chars at it
yea but its kinda annoying when my beginner is so behind and im trying to explore w6
They never need to kill a single thing. You can just use the speedrun ability and they copy the furthest progress of your other characters
for the portals that say a certain number of characters need to make the necesary kills
no?
If your "furthest" character got the requried kills, Vman copies that and it counts as also having gotten all kills.
Yes and you don't need to kill a single thing with your beginner
You do the portal on one character -> Use your speedurn ability and the portal also "opens" on your beginner
oooh, i didnt know this, ty
ignore the question part of this pasta
What happened to my 12M gmush kills on my VMan? Why do I have more/less maps unlocked on my VMan? Why do I suddenly have 2M kills on maps I've never even entered before on my VMan?
This is a byproduct and intended mechanic of having used the 'Speedrun' skill. VMan will immediately get all portals unlocked up to the furthest map you currently have unlocked by anyone other than the VMan (this is an easy way to get +1 count to every spirit lock in W6). If for some reason your VMan is the 1st and only one to open a portal, you will lose this portal as soon as you do a speedrun. As a result, VMan should never be used to actively push any portal as it can piggyback off anyone else's progress with 1 button.
Specifically, every associated mob's deathnote count for the VMan will be set to the bigger number between 2M and the portal requirement (currently only the last portal in W5 and 2nd half of W6). This means you will lose 10M from your gmush death note total while having every other W1-W5 mob set immediately to 2M.
ty, ty
good luck finding someone who'll read that!
I'm not trying to be mean or anything
How can I get more damage on bravery? its 3-25 atm..
If you already spent 2 months there that could have been two months working on your skills, portal progress on another character, alchemy materials, divinity unlocks and so on
You are genuinely better off just coming back at 25x drop rate and then do a day of active ES
That's the eternal idelon player curse. They either overcome it or they go down with it.
idleon players: can't read 3 sentences
also idleon players: why i can't i understand how mechanics work - i won't read!
if someone doesn't wantto read my copy pasta, i'll gladly stop answering their questions 🙂 no problem for me
The more you afk, the more damage you'll get. There's also some schematics that will help you along the way.
The Engineer has a schematic in level 3-5 (idk) that gives you base damage and max damage for every 6 hours you afk there
And then there is an upgrade in the measurer (unlocked in Cave 7) that increases your max damage a bunch based on your total skill levels
alright ty!
might be a stupid question, but where can i see my frop rate? i can only see drop rarity in the character menu
That's the drop rate.
Drop rarity is drop rate 
Idk why rarity and rate are 2 different things.
7 is a good time to slowly start working on your cards and obols
Do the sussy gene quest repeatable?
Nope
If you have all cards and you're only at 7x, you're probably missing something. Upgrade your Post Office and stamp. Otherwise, go get your obols sorted.
yea i play extremely casual lmao, might have everything wrong
i thought my obols were fine too
You want drop rate obols.
What's the point in Renewing the bell?
If you get the schematics that can give you multiple levels per ring, you'll get stronger buffs for cheaper.
meanwhile i turn into fragments every dice i get
oh okay I was thinking i might have just done it for nothing, thanks
It depends when you do it as well. If you didn't get both schematics, not much reason to renew.
i got the purple dice one i thought theres no point to them anymore
Well that's one... how's the rest of the page looking? 
I wonder if average 100t dmg enough to push w6 on all char. Except vman of course
This is on my secondary bargain bin ES and I'm only now clearing the doggies lock that needs 9 chars. You're gonna want MK out the ass. 
I feel like your the first person that abandoned and also not abandoned their obol at the same time
(don't throw your obols away just yet btw. make sure to get the final tier and have completed sets for slab)
thats the only thing i was still doing with obols, making sure i get every single one once
What does (passive) mean in the card, like the one for the W5 crystal mob
That you don't need to equip it
Oh so it is active even without having it in the 8 slots?
Hello. Can someone explain how does Reward Multi work in Bravery Cavern? Sometimes I get 1.7 multi, sometimes it's 1.0, sometimes it's 1.1. How do I make it increase?
The more days go by without doing the bravery fight, the higher the multiplier.
I got to the hive cavern already, I think i have a few gaming upgrades but nothing huge since I am not really strong enough to get further in dawg, nor can I use the monument too much coz im still on the damn divinity jail
Does (p) also mean the same thing as (passive) for cards?
Yes
Got it ty!
Ooooh. Does not it fully reset if you do not make a bravery fight one day?
cards are confusing
No, it's a sort of catch up mechanic to help you a bit in case you weren't able to fight daily.
Got it, clear now. But it does reset if you lose the fight, right?
Hehe. Aight, thanks anyways. 🙇🏼♂️
the reward multi also acts as the timer to even do 1 run. its 0.05/hr up to 48 hrs. so at 20hrs is when you get 1x and can do 1 run
Just leave 1 or 2 charas to monument. Monument is worth
Big worth
Where do we unlock new recipe again? It's been so long since I've unlocked new anvil.
Nvm. Found it.
Think I can clear kruk first time with 12m damage on es?
but thats gonna make divinity jail last for at least 3-4 more days. I ve been at it for like 2 weeks already, im at 34, i can wait a few more days right?
starting from w5, all discoverable recipes are rare mob/miniboss drops
first time doing justice is it normal to get nothing..?
that sounds super unlucky, I haven't gotten nothing yet
Only if you fuck up everything along the way. 
Somehow I doubt this is true because I've yet to miss a day and my multiplier is all over the place with values.
Didn't expect w5 tools to be easier to get.
Was low-key expecting it to need crap ton of black salts.
I mean basic one's not the trap and skull.
Nah, no more salts from here. Just a shit ton of Godshard.
Well... almost no more salts.
and some blues for the skull/pouch
what are good captain stats to aim for?
Sad. I can actually make almost all my basic void tools into it if I didn't use my green salts into upgrades.
speed > loot > arti find > rare chest > cloud discovery
Thanks!
Later when you have enough speed for all boats to reach all islands, loot above all else.
Yeah, there's a few annoying salt hurdles but they solve themselves over time.
if you have very low justice afk hours, it is very difficult - try getting more hours in to get more starting bonuses unlocked and it'll become easier
yeah i would recommend jsut letting your multi stack up a little while you get more hours in
Depends on where you're at with sailing. If you can reach the last island without needing speed, then you don't need speed. If you have all the artifacts, then you don't need artifact chance.
Thanks!
Generally Loot is the all-around best stat because it lets you upgrade your boats faster.
@tawny veldt
guess on what I've been working lately
it's funny because i farmed xp for my maestro in w4
then i remembered i can go w5
AND THEN I REMEMBERED
that i can go to hole leave hole through portal and save 2 portals worth of grind
equaling even more xp because of tougher mobs
also i accidentally ended up at eqinox trying to do blood bones for the 1m kills
so that's fun too
also what the hell is eqinox
i did like 3 quests there
Is the family guy skill something that impacts the input from rest of family or output to the rest of the family?
output
ty!
you boost the family boost of a character
to make you understand bette
family guy boosts only the character who is providing the bonus and only to itself. so a higher level ES will gain more +talents, while any points on a lower level ES is wasted
Ah so not the outgoing bonous. Thanks!
At what point are yall reseting your bell?
also does the points required to reset increase beyound the initial 250?
When should I be resetting the Bell in the Hole?
At Engineering Level 11, you will unlock the 'Triple Tap Tinkle' schematic which gives a higher chance at +2 levels per ring with a new chance of +3 levels per ring. This is the first point at which it is recommended to do a Bell Reset.
Afterwards, you would only want/need to reset if the bonuses provided by Bell Rings have rng-ed into a bonus you do not want or failed to provide desired levels in bonus you do want. Alternatively, you can see the average levels per ring you've received through a resource like !review (AutoReview) to see if you would want to try to gamble for more levels/ring.
Thanks what resource is that from? the wiki isnt updated and a few of the other discords i am in arent nearly as specific in their guides on that matter
wdym when you say wiki isn't updated? its pretty up to date. it won't have answers re: when/how to do things, but for pure information its all there
ah yeah. lava has stated he wants it called 'the caverns' -- even though he hyped it up as 'hole''
so wiki took his official stance
well doesnt help that its a big hole you jump into either
its also not linked under w5 so i thought its was not updated yet lol
hmm let me see
"The Hole" page under w5 on the wiki is permission locked
the hole should redirect you to caverns, at least it did for me
also, i'll have wiki folks change the worlds page cause yeah that's an oversight
I found this but i found the link by directly googling "Caverns update idleon wiki"
if i click the link
ah ok i'll fix that
iv been using the search function in discord to find info lmao but i have the correct link now
i assumed it was too early for the wikki to have anything being a relatively new update
i generally was just searching for the hole on the wiki to get to tis page
and it sometime take them a while to add a link from the menu to page like that with more recent feature to prevent spoiler
Best way to farm kruk keys? ES or just go all in on Bubo and do it at the same time as alchemy?
yeehaw sword stamp
the joy of getting it to proc on crappy stamps
Iv done well with bubo myself with a dr of 17 and enought kills that im getting 220k seconds per cc
usually the strat is just to double up on farm,
bubo - if you need cc/water
dk - if you need gfood/statues
bm - if you want breed/shiny
ES - if you don't care about any of the above
How long does mob respawn on their own without like faster mob res?
the wiki as a value for each mob for resapwn, just dunno if its in seconds or some other weird value
Seconds, yep
Well i just want kruk keys
Guys what do you suggest for SB obols. Im planning to switch to skulls or stick on dr
catching obols no?
do i reset? if yes, what do i go for? (f2p)
Is this good?
This is what mine looks like
Thats not what i asked
uh but i dont see pop obols
?
in luciyaa's text
I got all the pop obols dude
i just see dmg and wis
Ah, yes
yea mine arent for drop
And since there is no dr, i wonder what those obols are for
yea grind dr dr is best
I dont wanna be a doctor tho
no drop rate
I am fully aware
Last I checked it's if you don't have doot then 2 in the first idleon majik for doot lite
Then you want to unlock village majik like you did and fill up the first two, hole majik you get monument bonus and that's it, not sure after you get all that done
Looking for a DK master, I have a couple of quick questions
Yes or No:
1.) Does Kill per Kill affect xp gains?
2.) Does Kill per Kill cause the Orb to ramp faster?
Lava is very silent this week 👀
he might be cooking us some master class who knows
God I hope so
Hope dk levels to pickle knight
PICKE REMINER
some theorized about that even when he was working in elite class he gave hint and teaser
P I C K L E
My swords are gonna turn into pickles just u wait
And they will increase in size until they cover the screen
black pickle when? also w6 weird ahh pickle 
What do I need to do to raise my defense I'm only at 51k (getting rolled by these hounds and I need a higher score)
The easiest thing would be increasing the "FMJ" bubble in the orange cauldron
It's the 9th bubble in that cauldron
how F note works and what means tune that it gives?
I'm tuned to the second note -> F gives me the three notes aka note 1 + 2 + 3
bc i obviously understood it wrong, but it looks like it can only give 1/4+1/4 of C=0.5C
So C gives the most amount of notes
Lets just say C gives you 100 notes of the one you are tuned to
F would give you 25 notes (1/4 of C) for the one you are tuned to and the previous and next note -> Resulting in 75 notes (3/4 of C) over 3 different notes
ok thx
is it okay to put all my people on Divinity at first to make it go faster
took a big break from the game and I have not started it yet
yeah it's completely fine
as soon as i hit w5 for the first time i put all my characters on divinity for a week
i recommend that
you should get the first 4 gods
so until the rabbit god
okay thank you I was just questioning myself
come back from about a 2-year break
and I have to redo a lot of stuff so I'm probably going to do that after I do my divinity
having to relearn game mechanics
it's chill!
meanwhile I push a character to world 6 yesterday
you should probably lay low for some time
just a recommendation
get your stuff and resources in order how about that?
yeah I'm going to have to try to redo my 3D printers
at the moment that's going to be a lot of work but I'm going to have to try
Last time lava released elite class he made us guess what talents do based on their icons, think he'd do the same if hes working on master classes
It has been 156 nuggets since my biggest nugget. My equinox nugget upgrade is maxed.
yeah but that still give kind of hint on what it’ll be like, while right now no news of it tho maybe on tomorrow’s stream
My guess is elite classes will be in January.
Tomorrow is the Christmas event.
question, after I get the 1/5 pray bonus should I just not equip prayers untill they are significantly upgraded?
No, that superbit sucks
ah
wheres the optimal amplifier setup for the den?
dmg is 10% of your health, hp regen 30% is what I saw for these 2 don’t know about the others 
i need the others
@broken grail might you know and help in that?
I just play around with what amplifiers I can get away with till I get what seems like the best for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wgat do i do with bigger bow wow
if you think I know the amplifiers by name ur sorely mistaken
does Kaito have the answer for that then 
the thing that makes dogs go big
There is never a reason to use that 1/5 bonus. Think of it this way - you're gaining 20% of the bonus from bad prayers while losing 80% of the bonus from good prayers.
think I turned that off and just went max dmg I could realistically survive on the first amplifier
i feel like that amplifier just sucks
yeah just the dmg one is better
is the den bfr a multiplier or additive
u mean the engineer bonus for kill count per class type?
it's a flat additive lmfao
saw it on reddit, someone upped it while being at like few mil bfr, gained 5 bfr on the engineer bonus and yup, total bfr went up by 5 
lol
that's gotta be a joke
need 3 more opals for 30 on explorer
and im chilling until justice
well it was a very early engineer bonus, it helps to get ur early bfr going, but that's all it's good for
is it happy hour
yes
ok i can
thanksss
np np whatever happens happens
what server
carrot 5
hold on lemme get cards equipped
can do
oh no my worst enemy
dungeons
u can probably beat their ass
the best class for C9 opals is ES, right?
idk i used sb
wormhole doesn't work there
Sorry, I didn't specify, I mean for afking there.
highest mk and dmg I reckon
does it auto use 20 passes if i have more?
i aint that advanced
advanced more then 
or else imma do another review for your account 
jk never again too lazy for that shit
look at the auto review of your account you’ll see it’ll be way worse
where can i do that :p
!review
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
im scared
you should
the auto review humbles everyone, be it a casual player rushing world or mid/late game player
then im gonna get fried
on IT it says there are upgrades after e17 in hole but i see people saying 17 is the max rn?
there was before the update but with justice they got pushed at e18 but e17 is current max
or sum like that
IT also shows 5 upgrades that are not obtainable
Is measure 11 worth it to re opal into or engineer 18. Right now I'm splitting between the two
wym got pushed?
With the justice patch we got a new schematic in Engi lvl 16 -> So the last Schematic of lvl 17 is now the first (and only) schematic in lvl 18
the upgrade was in e17 before the update so could be bought before but now you can’t because they at e18
that, im just explaining things from what I kinda understood
so e17 is max and going above that is just prep?
ok so i should get e18 to get that upgrade
E18 isn't that long it's half as long as m11
The upgrade in e18 is the 8th bucket -> If you bought that before the justice patch you have no reason to push to e18
If you haven't gotten the 8th bucket it's your own decision 
I luckily bought it before and didn't need to make that decision
ok thank you
Ill get e18 in under 2 days but m11 is four
theres nothing at m11 right
Awesome thanks. Yeah I didn't get it before update
Correct. m11 is nothing for now
I guess it's time to push conjuror. It's at 20 now but I got 15 more bubbles there
Maybe explorer tho. The bonuses aren't the strong ones
how do i have 2 gods linked at the same time on my bubo :p
or is it visual cuz i just unlocked arctis
You don't have two linked. That is just the unlink button, which takes you to the unlink screen -> There you see what gods you are linked to
are the "spice is nice" and "spice is nicer" superbits multiplicative for a 3x total bonus? or does "spice is nicer" simply override "spice is nice" for a 2x bonus?
Bog Log from Gaming is trolling me,
I got skull 2nd try and then got a chance for free game, got skull again first try, GOT ANOTHER FREE GAME, and got skull 3rd try 
How rare is that
so for characters I've got 1BB 1Bubo 1BM 1ES 2SB 2DK. Should I go another ES next and journeyman last? or am I missing out by not having a journeyman already and do my other ES last
Journeyman
And ES after
Is your first 3 characters are in order: 1 BB, 1 Bubo and 1 BM?
no its Bubo/BB/SB
Alr
is there a reason I shoulve gone BM as my third char?
no no, I was just checking for something else
why do i have 5 sec gaming outside of world 5 but not in world 5
Town calculates gaming every 1 second, outside town is every 5 seconds. You need much higher speed to guarantee evos every 1 second / in town.
What do i do here
Same thing you did at Bravery. Leave a character AFK there for 1 uninterrupted hour, with the game closed or logged into a different character

LMAO
Reading is hard
This kills the Scoli
Do Gaming talents stack over two DKs? ie: two Bitty Littles granting more exp
oh, i realize he updated the message. it was still saying come back next week or something on patch day
almost halfway
just want to say you're a legend i completely spooned it like 60 chests in 😛
Took me like 2 weeks to get it
took me like a month
Killing king doot for a while
Can anyone tell me why my kill/hr isn't going up when I link to Nobisect on pocket divinity?
you used up all the bad luck for both of us friend
Well I’m charging interest to hold into your bad luck, so pay up
Interest rate of 300% paid with good luck
I have 164
Oodles and oodles of good luck coming your way inshallah 🙏
The sneaking loot I just claimed says otherwise
Tell her I want double the luck as compensation
What do we want? LUCK. when do we want it? NOW
What cards have priority to upgrade to max? Also, is there a guide on what cards to use for Skilling/Active/AFK?
The first ones I maxed were the 2 crystal cards and the emperor drop rate one
(To ruby)
For skilling you want skilling afk gains cards, the relevant skilling cards if you haven't unlocked passive cards
I haven't unlocked ruby yet but I have maybe a hand full of level 4 cards. Only due to the packs we've bbeen getting
For active depending on what you are doing you want damage/exp/multikill for pushing
Or a drop rate/crystal/damage set for farming
Also money too if that's what you want but money is a drop so drop rate boosts it
Yeah so, is there a guide for which are the best cards for those activities? I'm just going through them one by one and making things make sense.
Maybe the spreadsheet has one lemme look
!spreadsheet
Looking one up. Sec
Last Updated on by Samuel Franklin This guide to the best cards in Idleon provides card builds for different game activities to ensure players optimise their gains. From skilling and fighting card builds that use damage, multikill, drop rate, card drop chance, AFK gains or EXP cards you will find the best options on this page from the hundreds o...
Try that one, seems to break it down nicely
That works, thanks bro, I love you.
Not a problem, it's kinda overwhelming for sure
does super gmo give 8% to value gmo or is it 8% of the upgrade you have
Hope you don't mind math:
(1 + # crops * super ) * (1 + # crops * value) = this is how you get the multi you see when you swap the value info
dang so yeah its big if i did my math correct
hotair's sheet is updated if you need/want a source to help out https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18v2csU8UiXWUAIVvVjXIlXtH96-YdL2-9OzOUfCv_fw/edit?usp=sharing
is it the same equation for speed?
I'm actually so hyped for the seasonal event, so far all my weekly update predictions have been right and I can't wait to see if my lucky streak continues
nvm im pretty sure that speed gmo and super gmo are in the same multi group
no its the same. just replace the speed for value
oh nice so my first 100k is gonna be a big jump
iirc, only crop evo acts differently since its a multiplier. so instead of (1 + x * y) it should be something in the vein of x ^ y
thanks man
you've gotta be fucking kidding me I got Kattlekruk's obol before I got 2 cavities 
and I got the obol on the same chaotic kill as my first cavity
my luck is such bullshit lmfao
it really do be like that
Guys in village magick what is measurement bonuses
Measurement is the next villager unlock.
Oh i got his upgrade for nothing
What is schamtic
Schematics are the unlocks from Engineer in Hole
first person to 10M dootjat eyes wins
Oh so the name of upgrades in engineer
Guys is there a like a way to tell the perfect amount of amplfire to use for those fore dogs
trial and error
what's the best class to push to world 5?
ES
https://i.imgur.com/ZBSqWP9.png Is this available anywhere on idleon toolbox? Or just IE
C creates the exact note that you have chosen. F creates that note and the notes to the left and right of it. Overall you will get 25% less of the specific note that you've chosen if you use f instead of c.
Yes, on the dashboard there's an option to enable crystal countdown alerts
It's honestly a bit counterintuitive but it is there
Guys, how to equip more than 2 divinity? I already have cosmo conjurer
all classes get 3 and ES gets 4 links for divinity
I have doot
2 from cosmo, 1 from divinity altar and 1 from talent
What one to farm?
Thank you!
How to get 2 links from cosmo? I cant get 2, no option to upgrade it
u need to unlock the "you can now enhance upgrades"
Thankyou so much brooo❤️
Dk is best for den right?
ive just reached world 5 by putting all my characters into lab to get the multikill bonus and pushed with my DK should i change this setup or keep with it?
now put all your char in divinity for yet another jail
yep was thinking it was gonna be something like that honestly
so umm
nvm i just realized
theres a div guide in the pinned
but you want to unlock the 5th a your goal asap, goat god (5th god) makes it so that when you’re afk in lab it counts as if you’re afk on divinity as well so two in one
ok ty
do u advice me to use c or f?
imagine C gives 100% of note 1
F would give 25% of notes 1, 2 and 3
C overall gives more notes and will focus the 1 you are wanting
wait sovereihn emperor is not a thing in the game yet?
i pulled the card out of a pack when i started playing i think :3
it is only under the form of cards
S tier buffs from cards
true
120% if rubie'd
i just found out that it still doesnt exist
holy shit
so 240% if doubled aswell
how da hel do u double it
this is the base one?
base what
oh yea lab
base emperor card
so u mean emperor on normal difficulty?
yeah
yeah it is
sick
what does monument refer to?
Bravery
@oblique jasper what one to farm afk has too hot to have my laptop on
Definitely w3. Those don’t rely on crystals
What one from world 3?
Doesn’t really matter, but con exp probably the best
What level is that please
Didn’t realize it would send the whole thing lol. It’s at cryosnake
Ty
My guess is that Lava wanted to fill the last hole on the W5 crafting tab to make it look nice
There are a ton of empty slots on other pages however
even more useless thing to craft once for slab 
or drip maybe?
dope.
…?
lol why you got that msg now
good question, or maybe ios is just stupid
How long did it take for u guys to unlock goat god? I just got hare 😫
A month for goat 
It's not too bad could prob do it in a week or two if you get good rng
sounds like a month or more for me too then 
few weeks proly
so the move is putting all chars into divinity right? or would i keep pushing with dk?
do pocket divinity (from the bell, idleon majik) have cooldown to link god?
is pocket divinity buff account-wide?
Yes
on all char so you usually want to link things like harriep, omni or goat/bear
hey guys, my gaming is actually slower on the w5 town than in the rest of the maps. Does anyone knows what is happening?
almost..
Ahh
your gaming is slower on other maps?
I’m dying. Div jail so slow
No, i tested other world towns and some different maps, mas the w5 seems to be the only one that is slower
and its weird because its supposed to be faster
gaming is the plant thing
are you sure you mean that?
yea
as far as i know it's the same speed always
do you know that plant grow cycles take longer the more they grow?
like a tier 3 plant takes longer to grow than tier 1
Yea, i'm talking about instant harvests. If im outside the w5 town, when i harvest my plants it take like 5 seconds to them to grow again. I saw in a video that in w5 town the cycles are supposed to be faster, but its take way longer
You don't have enough speed yet to get instant gaming in W5 town
Instant gaming is all or nothing
It either respawns 20 plants a second or 1 plant a second
Ohhh, now it makes sence.
With 160 farming crops and the Lab jewel you need a speed of 1.33 min (displayed as 1.3 min)
You can check how close you are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?usp=sharing
(Purrmep needs a % to be accurate)
Thank you so much @teal lynx and @tardy yew for your attention!!
How to do divinity?
Do I do like,go from telekinesis to chakra and to focus and so on or go for xp and just do chakra for now until later levels?
Cause chakra is 2 point 4 xp and focus is 4 point 1 xp
So?
awww don't thank me i hardly helped. I'm still new to w5 too so i struggled helping you
the thanks goes to @teal lynx
usual thing I see is whatever give most point until you get goat god then its full on xp like mantra or vitalic (if you still want to earn some point) to get the better stances
Dadoums what's your max damage
I'm at focus currently and I got the goat 1 week in. Very lucky
So do I do focus or go back to chakra for exp?
No need to be modest a little help goes along way

I'd go back to chakra for the xp then switch on mantra when you get it
Guys i don’t get the herp is it supposed to only give me 5 and i farm 150 or what is the strategy
Ok,thanks.
Btw,BM sucks imo
he does
he only becomes useful later when you get vman and his enhancement to make your BM viable for active farming for breeding
early on you dont get that much note
So i just play it on c
use acc wide buff
What does he buff?
@cyan mantle How can u go three months without playing Idleon?!
Wdym?
75 days in lab.
Where are you seeing this?
Labmaxxing
On your Idleonefficiency link
Well outdated
Hasn't been updated in forever
New account?
Bed now @cyan mantle you have school in the morning
Yes old man
I'm not old 
he prints mob mats as a first, have talent that boost xp, dmg, statue bonus, meal, critter and souls, give base stat + increase max level or str/agi/wis talent
Redo tab I updated it
Btw,should I farm opals and put them all on the conjurer or just anything?
and the enhancement he gives are really good as well
Check the guide
Ehh most of them
It still shows me 75 days lab
Idk then
What guide? And where?
W5 chat pins
I still remember this 
Before even w4 was introduced

farming for nothingness ?
I didn't even have that island unlocked back then 
Well, @faint wigeon and @cyan mantle now that C10 works,do I put all my opals till C10 and then reset or c9 then reset?

Go to bed now bad reaper alert you have school in the morning
its 11am for me duh
you are the one need sleep 
Not for reaper it is almost 11pm for us Aussies
I still ain't going to bed
but im not sleep for 3 days straight 
You unlock it on the imports tab
I mean there are a lot lot boxes, is it the "console box"?
Yea, i think so. Its the one placed there.
PS5 box 
lol thats very far for u 
u need to get more than 1000Qa if i remember to get 1 green bit 
thats the shovel i think
it really does nothing?
Oh you WANT that
Shovel is a BIG improvement
nah
ok then no buying shit until shovel
keep gambling
ur name reminded me to get my ass to autoreview and keep working on my account now 
It's half month old account rushed to w5 so u can imagine how my auto review looks
Autoreview-chan needs your data 
It will not discriminate you, but it will tell you to improve your account 
holy, reach w5 in half a month is pretty impressive
it was 10 ish days
im doing divinity since a while
Nov 20 i started this account
wait from w1 to w5???
my nov 19 acc got deleted cuz steam
How do people have hundreds 
yes
Holy
They improve their account with Autoreview and then print all ores, logs, flies, fish 
Or or or I just get 10m of all monster mats from w1-w4
Auto review has share link too or u just search my name?
Rookie numbers
That's also possible 
man since i started this game i get daily 3-4 hours cuz i wake up i need to check on my chars
I got over 11k hours on mobile
If your IE profile is public and updated then everyone can search for your name (assuming they have the first character name)
Is that protein I see 
protein go yummy
the answer lays in my name
I hate voidwalker too complicated
That's why he's my most neglected character
undeserved
he's the dom doretto of idleon
do you not like your family?
i swear that i have better gear than you at lvl 150
And mine still got more damage and stats than yours 😈
Pokermon
mine is.... nonexistent....yet
do gambling
hell no
because i no have void man
do it without xman
i can do the first two worlds in less than 2 weeks but other than that...
bloodbone is annoying and i hate him
also while doing vman quest i accidentally found eqinox
candy indeed
it feels so bad to candy on bloodbone because the kill per hour is so low...
you think i haven't spent any??
I DID THOSE DEATHNOTE KILLS IN LESS THAN A WEEK!
MY STRONGEST CHARACTER HAS 8M
ong
3 days worth of time candy spent today
you really want to unlock the vman
reach w4
PRINTS!
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PRONTS OR SALTS
is it worth the wait 🤔
you mean unlocking the new god or going to the 100% instead of 5%
going 100% instead of 5%
you will need 435 hours for getting that
i already regretted so much gambling on divinities
or do around and raise gaining
i would go for the 100%
all in
if i put all my guys there i think it will be like 2m or so
still way too slow but
atleast its guaranteed
well 19 days
yea, you will also spend a lot of time to a 5% chance of geting it
wow
i only remember mr tiger man being 100% sacrificed
i gambled a lot in the beggining, but i'm not a lucky person
so i started to go for the 100%
guess ill wait for the 207 if i manage to get a good divinity points per hour
or AFK for 2 years
yea, try to improve it
true, ill just quit


