#lategame-chat-w5๐ŸŒ‹-w6๐ŸŒธ

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dreamy merlin
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then say no

teal lynx
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If it isn't the consequences of your own actions

dreamy merlin
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well its either die or lose 1 chest

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gambling for more future chests grumblo_steal

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or be scared and take your 2 chests

heady plover
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Welp I managed 3 chests. Reading is hard, I miss number to big give up number small attack xD

tired gorge
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How does sailing work

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I'm new to world 5

peak verge
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Welcome to W5! Read through the pinned messages to get a general guide for what to do next.

bleak gazelle
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I actually need to put together some beginning sailing stuff

peak verge
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Slap a captain in a boat and send him forth.

bleak gazelle
# tired gorge How does sailing work
  • Anyway, for starting off, send your boat to the first island until you get all 4 artifacts.
  • Unlock new boats and captains (you get up to 20 of each, use the scroll bar)
  • Upgrade your boats' speed to get to further islands.
    The fastest your boats can go at the start is 2 hour round trips, if you can check the game often, then try to send your boats to close islands to maximize the # of chests you get
valid ledge
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i didnt get the blueprint for the last thing

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anything i should do to try get it

rough crest
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Am i unable to use pocket divinity if i have doot?

tired gorge
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Bro I don't even have anvil tab 4 I beat world 4 with void gear

solar seal
solar seal
rough crest
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I thought doot doesn't give the equipped bonus

bleak gazelle
rough crest
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Thanks, was confused and looking through the hole guide for answers

tired gorge
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How do I get frigid soles I need them for tab 4

bleak gazelle
peak verge
tired gorge
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Ok thanks I got level 35 elemental sourcer

bleak gazelle
rough crest
bleak gazelle
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next week should be KPK ballot, so speedrun should be a bit easier Grumblo_Pray

rough crest
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I hope so, i could use that lil boost when trying to blitz w3 and up

dense ridge
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how long does it take to get my first god in W5 idk what to expect :p

solar seal
fallow aurora
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anything I need to know before I start my first run?

dense ridge
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my RNG is horrific with this game

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lets hope it doesnt take any longer

rough crest
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Like there is more details for it

But those two feel important, the goal and how it ends

The rest you can learn as you play it.

fallow aurora
terse verge
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I wasnt going to say it. But i was going to caution that most folks without at least like the 750hr bonus dont get very far at all

paper plank
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To maxamize #free-gem-contest๐Ÿ’Ž 58 we need to have the green present win but not by a large margin an also have smileys faces as high as possible without beating green present to maxamize amount of winners and gems gained

atomic plinth
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Do I get divinity exp when connected to the goat god with no characters at the alter?

fallow aurora
atomic plinth
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YAAYYY

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Time to Transfer

fallow aurora
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arctis+goat doesn't work tho

atomic plinth
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Learned the hard way

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3 Days and all I got was confusion

hollow palm
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Is it possible to take a sample at level 9 of the hole?

narrow sable
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i think its time to stop putting 8 people on bravery and actually play the game again ๐Ÿคง

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until i get justice

bleak gazelle
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or c9 grumblo_steal

bronze lichen
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i have a question what is the mutation variable in the gaming speed calc?

signal dome
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what resource is this?

fallow aurora
signal dome
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thanks

distant mirage
valid ledge
vocal ibex
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For the hole just want to double check the level for explorer max is 10, engineer max is 17, for conjuror keep on going until maxed points then some more on the side , and measurer max is 10?

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Not sure if it's gone up. Looked at guide just want to make sure my info right with you people

random quail
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How to not get bored

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How to fix a wooden door with a hammer

fallow aurora
random quail
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Fixing wooden doors with a hammer is what I like

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And idk how to do it

fallow aurora
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maybe watching a youtube video? I have no idea

random quail
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This is your fault.

fallow aurora
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1000k? how much clicking did u do

snow kite
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what gaming lvl do people normally unlock chem plant at?

teal lynx
# solar drift

That shit says 1000k instead of 1m? Soulface
I assume you are more like 999.6k and it will go over to 1m soon

frail vigil
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In gaming I swear there's an upgrade somewhere or another that makes the shovel get better each time you haven't gotten a big nugget, does anyone know what I'm talking about?

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I didn't see it on the wiki

snow kite
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its from equinox

solar drift
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equinox

frail vigil
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Ah, right. Cheers.

solar drift
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1billion nuggets is actually easy now tbh

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some people were already in the range 500-1b with 6/6 upgrade

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@teal lynx whats your current nuggets ?

teal lynx
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Current Nug: 890m
Currently clicked nugs: Not that much

solar drift
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what about equinox level ?

teal lynx
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6

solar drift
teal lynx
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Still stuck on Equinox symbols

fallow aurora
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after that is dr?

teal lynx
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As much as I want dr... I think I will go nuggets first. I'm in a gaming war with people grumblo_steal

fallow aurora
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this was before infinite summoning, I regret it GuyMontag

solar drift
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-# lol

teal lynx
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I had everything maxed before the Equinox expansions

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It's nearly time to setup my TD build again. The last 10 waves Grumblo_Pray
And they should be way easier than my current wave

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(I'm already here for like 5 hours now. Send help)

solar drift
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.right td

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i should level it too

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well shit xaya

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you want to do happy hour in 1h and 30 min ?

teal lynx
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Absolutely not Dead

solar drift
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๐Ÿ˜”

teal lynx
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0 Uhr ๐Ÿ™…

jovial crater
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Any reason to keep mystery upgrade stone III and IV?

open mountain
quick swallow
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Guy what first engi to lvl 13 or Explorer c9

bleak gazelle
lost plank
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I know the answer to "how much damage" is "as high as you can get it"
however, I have a specific question for it
Doing vman on nightmare kruk, what should be my MINIMUM damage, shown by the character screen, and having like 150% crit

teal lynx
teal lynx
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The Minimum max damage
I will not be talking in minimum minimum damage

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Your max damage on your character sheet should be minimum 80 b

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That shouldn't be hard to reach with all the buffs World 6 gives us grumblo_thumbsup (And World 2)

bleak gazelle
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we don't consider minimum damage to be a real thing and will never recommend numbers for it. even if we give ranges (i.e 80b-100b), that's a range for your max damage YEP

bold sage
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Is there a nice little list of hole "pow 10" resources? Like grey rock = grey DNA, quaver note = whatever that does? Not sure what I need to be cautious about spending on measures.

bleak gazelle
bold sage
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Oh wow - ty

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Is that in the hole guide and I'm blind? I peeked through it before asking.

bleak gazelle
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don't think so, someone linked it to me from somewhere

bold sage
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Well ty again for sharing. I didn't realize the last couple of resources were worthless. Yay future proofing, I suppose.

lost plank
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Correction, 93b min min... But I think I have good enough damage

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How long would it take again?

quick swallow
vocal ibex
bleak gazelle
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tbh, if you're at the level to be worrying about those levels, you can probably live without the bucket for a bit LUL maybe get it before sitting on conjuror for a while, but it can be the last thing to grab

lost plank
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I went to reset my opals and put them in explorer ... Put them in engi by mistake, have to wait 6 days for the wishes to reset again :/

dusky belfry
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Does dawg den hounds hp scale with time or kills per attempt?

oblique jasper
lost plank
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More like engi 13, I only have 35 opald

lunar notch
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what do the levels on the notes do

bleak gazelle
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if you click on them, they'll tell you hehe

stuck river
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How do I play justice

bleak gazelle
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make sure you have the engi16 schem

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and some afk hours

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otherwise kind of useless

stuck river
astral topaz
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Is it common knowledge for harps opals being broken?

bleak gazelle
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how many are you up to?

astral topaz
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Every time I redeem an opal, it doesnโ€™t bank into my opal inventory.

Iโ€™m up to 5 and I havenโ€™t got any of them

sly sentinel
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so i just unlocked the grotto, is it normal for the respawn rate to be super super slow?

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can they not be respawned?

bleak gazelle
astral topaz
bleak gazelle
astral topaz
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Might be a mobile issue

stiff oyster
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whats the hardest thing to do in idleon?

astral topaz
stiff oyster
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hey, im a ftp account

astral topaz
bleak gazelle
stiff oyster
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^^^^ right im workin on upgrading my characters skulls

stiff oyster
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that must suck

astral topaz
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Big mood, atleast smithing exp is fixed

stiff oyster
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wait, does everyone here have bad luck?

safe magnet
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Yes

obtuse lantern
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can anyone explain how the harp works? I didn't understand it from the wiki

fierce cargo
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just swipe over the strings

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or click and hold over

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after clicking on the harp

warm holly
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whats the idea behind vman only earning vman skill points for their current preset? Should I be doing speedruns on both presets, or transitioning to a 1 preset kinda guy, or...?

sick sentinel
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Just 1 speedrun, put the single point you get into the speedrun talent on ur other preset to get your vman tab points to use

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Also don't forget the chess talent on mman page for ez vman talent points

warm holly
sick sentinel
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Yeah, so if you can upgrade the chess talent or use a talent reset potion if need be

stiff oyster
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other than salts whats the most time gated feature, or just a generally annoying one

late copper
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snail

stiff oyster
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so gaming?

fallow aurora
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companions

stiff oyster
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they suck i have all but doot and slug

bleak gazelle
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snail atom

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maxing void tower

pastel kayak
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Hard to play on my laptop has it not wants to charge at times @bleak gazelle your fault

lost plank
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Vman has vanquished nightmare kruk

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Three toons remain

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Man, I've done two amazing feats in one day. Quite happy

stiff oyster
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what was the first

lost plank
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Chem plant unlocked

stiff oyster
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neat i dont even have tree

lost plank
pastel kayak
bleak gazelle
pastel kayak
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Can try to hotspot from my phone to laptop if want @bleak gazelle

lost plank
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Now all I need to do is get doot and I'll be set for life lmao

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Attempt 98 gonna be my roll y'all ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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Is multikill based on max or min atk

bleak gazelle
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max

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just pretend that min damage range doesn't exist

lost plank
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Weird, I have 900b max DMG and I am not multikilling leeks...

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Maybe I need to double it

pastel kayak
bleak gazelle
pastel kayak
lost plank
median shale
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If it says "this time I'm a normal drink" I should reject it right? Like that means it is definitely not a special drink but that it could have been?

worldly lagoon
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feels good to lvl a vial once again xD

drowsy rivet
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is there a estimated amount f time it tkes for the suggma recipe

faint wigeon
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really lucky or extra unlucky

worldly lagoon
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i got suggma recipe in the first 2m kills

bleak gazelle
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average is within getting 1k Royal Urns

pastel kayak
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Getting bad storm here now @bleak gazelle @worldly lagoon

worldly lagoon
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stay inside and stay safe

pastel kayak
bleak gazelle
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crystal setup DR GuyMontag

worldly lagoon
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u hit the cap

bleak gazelle
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better take off my chip

noble moth
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What traps do you use for refinery critters

bleak gazelle
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yeehaw, finally

bold sage
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There's literally no cards/chips/obols that help with bravery/justice afking, right? Just monument afk rate that comes from summoning/the hole?

solar seal
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Each monument has its own a monument afk too, but its pretty deep in to even see the odds - but essentially yes

bold sage
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Aww - I thought theirs were generic. Ah well. But either way, nothing I need to manage before swapping. So yay - thanks.

solar seal
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ah sorry, i worded that odd. it is generic monument afk. i just meant each monument also provides a monument afk bonus

bold sage
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I'm used to swapping chips/obols, so it feels weird to just freely swap between my little guys

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Ahhh - got it

solar seal
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the monuments provide a specific monument only mult bonus to the rewards though - albeit no one is deep enough to have triggered it yet

cyan mantle
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Kaito is there like a distribution thing for opals in the hole?

bleak gazelle
cyan mantle
bleak gazelle
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it's just villagers 1-4

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work to the next line as you get more opals

cyan mantle
bleak gazelle
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idk man, maybe come back after you're more awake KEKW

solar seal
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kek

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the AU education system failing reaper rn

cyan mantle
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So 10 opals into first then 10 into the next and so on?

solar seal
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you gotta be clearer about what youa re confused about cause just repeating that aint helping us help you

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its a progression

cyan mantle
solar seal
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what is your current opal distribution, and current levels?

simple wadi
solar seal
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you aren't fcked at all

faint wigeon
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damn

solar seal
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just a little inefficient but nothing bad

fallow aurora
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why does it look like u have no opals

cyan mantle
simple wadi
fallow aurora
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maybe i'm dumb but that seems a little less

fallow aurora
bleak gazelle
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are you doing bravery runs?

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ayo #3 finally

bleak gazelle
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oh, i also forgot i had 3 kruk obols on

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so 40.59x

worldly lagoon
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dr is rly starting to escalate

cyan mantle
bleak gazelle
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yoo, 2nd keychain too

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2nd DR keychain was 26%

cyan mantle
stable temple
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Max accuracy until you have 100% hit, max attack until you take about 10% of your damage per hit, put hp regen at about 30%

dreamy merlin
dreamy merlin
# cyan mantle <:EmojiSuperSad:894303903888310322>

take off the 2 defense and accuracy lowering prayers if you have those one, then set the accuracy to the highest you can still 100% hit, set damage to a point that seems reasonable to survive long enough with, which i would say is around 20-30% and imo i just put the 3rd one to max

hollow rain
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Is there any point to levelling the Engineer past lvl 17?

bleak gazelle
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only to get last bucket if you didn't get it before patch

hollow rain
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Welp, I guess I got him to 18 for no reason then

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I'll reset my opals

bleak gazelle
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just preparing for new stuff happytroll

hollow rain
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Thx for the help โค๏ธ

halcyon knot
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is there a td guide wave 120?

bleak gazelle
pastel kayak
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@bleak gazelle lighting just hit a sub station in my area

rich stratus
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+1 slab and i no longer need to save these obols

worldly lagoon
rich stratus
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should i save it then
i didnt even know u could snapshot cdr

worldly lagoon
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up to u, only important for stuff like boss or miniboss cards usually

faint wigeon
rich stratus
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ok thank you guys

worldly lagoon
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the w5-w6 miniboss boss cards the cdr snapshot would have been useful

rich stratus
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yeah my w5-6 mini cards at at 1 star rn
so frustrating lol

bleak gazelle
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yeah, been kicking myself because I forgot to snapshot card dr for w5/6 ones

prime wasp
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Wait on stream did lava say something about Esq. Bored Bean appearing more likely if you do "Mmmm yeeees, charmed your honor. Perchance could I get a loan of all your money? I will give it all back next you see me, and you would make me one very happy bean oh hohoho yeeees!"

bleak gazelle
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i, unfortunately, missed this weeks stream GuyMontag

prime wasp
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I may need it for the table I'm making

dreamy merlin
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lava should let us play the justice thing without reward just to learn it Grumblo_Pray

prime wasp
dreamy merlin
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i like the system Grumblo_Pray

prime wasp
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Yeah it's fun

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It seemed fun when lava did it on stream

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Did you watch the stream because if you did I need to ask you something

dreamy merlin
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Nah, when does he even stream

prime wasp
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Thursday

dreamy merlin
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is there a time

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or just some time during thursda

bleak gazelle
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with weekly updates it's been like 12-2p EST (17-19 UTC)

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idr what timezone you're in PepeHands

dreamy merlin
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uh

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mst

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then i cant watch the whole streams angryuganda

fickle lake
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ios pls let idleon update Grumblo_Pray

dusky sapphire
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Anyone know why canโ€™t play on iOS?

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Oh, lol seems Iโ€™m not the only one

winged lily
analog raven
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Maybe cus in america there was thanksgiving and almost a long weekend for them?

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Anyway, i too, canโ€™t play outside now. Which is a bummer ๐Ÿ˜ถ

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@lunar crater hello are u at critoranges? Iโ€™m stuck here as well ๐Ÿ‘‹

pastel kayak
cursive forge
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what to do when you first reached w5 now

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or its still afk div until goat

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and focus exp

olive dagger
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need help with the hole

faint wigeon
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div jail, when you get nobi you can maybe push w5 or catch up some things in early worlds then when you get goat its back at lab jail or hole up to you if you want to do it a bit

bleak gazelle
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You can take a few breaks to get the 750 hr upgrade at Bravery Monument in Hole

faint wigeon
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might start again bravery to get to 2k

faint wigeon
pastel kayak
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Bed now bad @bleak gazelle

lunar crater
bleak gazelle
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no, no. it's cc time hehe

pastel kayak
faint wigeon
pastel kayak
analog raven
barren bison
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Is there a list with all ways to increase bucket fill rate?

oblique jasper
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Measurement, monument, schematics

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And bell

barren bison
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Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

oblique jasper
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Measurements and monument does a lot. I put points into both of the magiks related to them and my bfr went from 10m to 50m

snow kite
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surely this must work right

oblique jasper
snow kite
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well it didnt work

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is it bc of this

oblique jasper
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Try harder

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Also why did you max cost

snow kite
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but i literally had over 100% chance of unlocking it

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additively

snow kite
fierce cargo
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cc more, you'll get it easy

snow kite
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maybe i shouldnt have done that for yellow cauldron so that i can atom all the good bubbles. . .

oblique jasper
snow kite
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oopsie

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yeah that was a mistake

oblique jasper
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Itโ€™s fine whatโ€™s done is done

snow kite
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like how am i gna get this to atom range

oblique jasper
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I got that to atom range like a week ago, felt so good

snow kite
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or this

oblique jasper
snow kite
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oh

oblique jasper
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You can also disconnect vial doubler if you are a little off from atom range

snow kite
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am i gna have to do that for like all the bubbles above w4. . .

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ill have to get every bubble there to like 71

oblique jasper
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I donโ€™t focus on w4+ bubbles all that much, Iโ€™m currently just trying to get carpenter to atom range

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Maybe Iโ€™ll focus those more once I do that

snow kite
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finally

stable temple
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Wow free stamps

tight pilot
short sapphire
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Is it not possible to onyx The dragon statue yet?

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Nvm i didnt have it gold๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

potent sky
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So if I have the Gohart In Divinity linked do i still need to have a player in the divine altar?

teal lynx
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If you link to Goharut you get Divinity gains, while in Lab -> So no need to be on the altar

fickle lake
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how do i unlock the lab bonus fungi finger pocketer

faint wigeon
fickle lake
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How to unlock the slab sovereignty

faint wigeon
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you bought the upgrade from jade emporium?

fickle lake
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i dont want to use my dungeon passes yet

fickle lake
faint wigeon
faint wigeon
fickle lake
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I need better prints and more print slots

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reprinting every time is just GuyMontag

faint wigeon
faint wigeon
fickle lake
daring carbon
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am i missing 1 improvment method or are there more

fickle lake
daring carbon
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thamks

fierce cargo
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6th one isn't active, but you can unlock it

faint wigeon
fickle lake
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i mean merit

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i have every merit unlocked for w2 except efaunt gear Soulface

faint wigeon
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ohhh

faint wigeon
fickle lake
faint wigeon
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hmmm 1000 gems grumblo_steal

fickle lake
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i wonder if i should wait till thursday to see if theres a new pack to buy or just buy the 30sgd pack rn for more print slots

hardy lark
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Hello, into the caves I can get more 5 levels for talents?

faint wigeon
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from hole? I don't think so

hardy lark
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I need +5 to get the last voidwalker talent ;-;

sly hatch
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how do i unlock more rocks in the well?

teal lynx
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You set your buckets to mine the rocks

sly hatch
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and how do i unlock new types?

teal lynx
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You have a bar. x/100 gravel
500/500 rocks -> Set your buckets to the rocks. When you mine those 500 rocks you get a new ore -> Repeat for new types

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Or send a screenshot of your well. Mine is fully expanded so I can't show it

fierce cargo
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you scroll up in the bucket until you see remove rock layer

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the purple one

sly hatch
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thanks

dense ridge
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i accidentally sold my pickaxe is there a way to get it back? :p

faint wigeon
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recraft it ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

dense ridge
fickle lake
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Wow ios rlly is not updating

old drift
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Hi
I'm about to kill w4 boss, is there anything before i touch something in w5? ๐Ÿ˜‚
I mean common mistakes etc

faint wigeon
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not that i can think of

teal lynx
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Do the quest catnod
Just like always and then when you see that divinity is just Lab 2.0 you cry for a second AYAYAHands

prisma mural
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if i buy a conjuror pt in the gem shop before unlocking the conjuror do i still get it when i unlock the conjuror

old drift
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I didn't click on anything yet, i just sit here for 1 hour? XD

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@teal lynx i guess this is the lab2 ๐Ÿ˜‚

teal lynx
clever furnace
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Yeah but put all your guys on it

old drift
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so just sitting for now?

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why is it not in teleport with my other characters?

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i need elite class before? XD

clever furnace
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You gotta walk through the teleporter

old drift
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ty

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Should i do skill talent/cards or doesn't matter?

faint wigeon
clever furnace
old drift
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whats biggie

clever furnace
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biggie hours card

faint wigeon
faint wigeon
old drift
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6%

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ty xd

faint wigeon
# old drift 6%

well 6% your 1 hour is a 2 hour, or more if you afk'd longer grumblo_steal

old drift
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sure

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1-2 times i got it already lol

faint wigeon
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you surely want that, especially if you afk with better div stances where you'd get tons of point and xp in a few hours

old drift
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i still need to watch the w5 guide so this was still chinesee for me

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๐Ÿ˜‚

faint wigeon
old drift
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5 10 15 points?

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OMG my acc lvl is 559 i didn't notice i can make my 7th character

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jman coming Grumblo_xplode

clever furnace
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Bro is rushing a little fair enough

clever furnace
faint wigeon
peak verge
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This is still extremely accurate for characters 8 through 10.

zealous pagoda
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do I get more at daily reset? or is it over the day 3.62 on average?

solar drift
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if it say 4.01 then you have 1% to get 5

zealous pagoda
cyan mantle
solar drift
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frieren waking up

faint wigeon
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bro seeing things

cyan mantle
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I see now

cyan mantle
faint wigeon
cyan mantle
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I'm tired, bored and sad leave me be

solar drift
pastel kayak
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Bed now bad @cyan mantle you have school in the morning

cyan mantle
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Actually your right I do need to

west depot
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Is there a problem woth the measurment bonusses, yesterday i had a 2X multiplier for the tombe and now it is X1,07

fallow aurora
#

if it doesn't look right cloudsave

west depot
#

Ok thx

empty wharf
#

New guy. Thank God got him B4 daily reset.

proven silo
#

i just unlocked goharut, should i link it through altar or majik? or is there any linking recommendation? dootless btw

solar seal
proven silo
solar seal
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oh wrong pasta. my b

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - anyone in lab on Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat), anyone not in lab can be on Bear
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep + Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear + Snake

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(still waking up)

proven silo
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haha, ok, thanks for the info

solar seal
#

the base case is to use bear on folks cause its annoying AF losing lab node links cause you pull a person in/out

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bear is always a strong link no matter what due to the minor link for talent levels so its never a loss, even if you double up bear/goat

proven silo
#

yeah that make sense, i still thinking of what will i do if i need one of my char do mob grinding without bear

languid locust
#

is bored beans the best place to pen farm?

solar seal
languid locust
solar seal
#

my general recommendation is 8x min (ideally 10+) dr, 1% crystal spawn chance (use IT/IE to check), and ideally choco chip

languid locust
#

ah ok thats great, i got both crystal cards at ruby and on 10.4x, tysm

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with choco

graceful fern
#

Why is my es doing less dmg than bubo? Like 20T diff, arent es should be doing better cause overcloaked energy at a higher lvl

solar seal
#

you will need to be a bit more specific. unless everythign else betwen the two characters is exactly equal and the only difference in talent levels in overclocked energy, then yes. but i highly doubt that is the case

graceful fern
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The gear, card, are the same, the talent lvl is just a bit diff but all my char min book are 200+ except like my last 3 char

sullen egret
#

You might be missing a shit load of stamps

solar seal
#

i mean i can't really help you. i have no idea what scale i'm working with. 20T for you might be huge diff, but for others its meaningless. either you'll need to link your account, or provide full SS of everything. what you are asking about can be affected by like 30+ different things

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as a general rule, i would never compare across classes

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just because they are both mages means very little in scheme of things

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BB and DK are not created equal at all

graceful fern
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I doesnt quite mind the diff, but its just mean its going to take longer to boost the mages to 100t dmg, I already done the other char(except vman) already.

final verge
#

is cave 10 good?

tribal crag
#

Hi, just asking. How much DR I need to get molten mitten from sugma or do I need use candies

solar seal
final verge
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like is it worth getting to?

solar seal
graceful fern
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Just pray, you can get it in a couple week or just days.

solar seal
# final verge like is it worth getting to?

like everything in game: its always worth getting to. there very little in game that i would say is flat out "avoid"
its a source of bonuses both specific to hole and outside. notably, it has harp power and summoning essence gain. both very good and sought bonuses.

final verge
#

yeah summoning is so slow

simple bramble
#

is kitsune roxie.. useful?

tribal crag
#

Actively yes@simple bramble

solar seal
simple bramble
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i've had it off since i got it ๐Ÿ˜…

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ty guys

final verge
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same i never use it

#

what is the point of bell renew?

simple bramble
#

you get engineer upgrades that give you a chance at more levels per level (like +2 or +3 instead of just +1)

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you can try again when you get better chances at those bonuses.

final verge
#

alright thanks

terse mica
#

is it a dismiss?

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what if i don't?

solar seal
# terse mica is it a dismiss?

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Caverns#Monument_Of_Justice has been updated w/ all the encounters. dismiss is only way to get the chest. all other options are just -1 pop

IdleOn MMO Wiki

The Caverns is a feature located in The Hole, it includes 2 main parts.
Firstly the Camp where your villagers are and second The Caverns, who are located in the hole.
All the Villagers(except Polonai which you have at the start) are hidden in the caverns and must be rescued(clicked),
they can then be upgraded using Opals which will give them x...

terse mica
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gotcha ty

teal lynx
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(Don't use a dismiss for a single chest)

high dune
#

guys how to calculate the amount of time ill need to onyx my w5 statues
rn stats are : 13.58x dr, 1 of 29 crystals if anything else i can make better plz tell

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also any prayers i can use??/

teal lynx
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If you want a very rough estimate you set a 5 min timer -> Wait 5 min -> See how many statues you got and then do some math
A better estimate would be doing a 1 hour test

Obviously more dr would be super usefull

humble radish
#

lost at exactly #100 NOOO

teal lynx
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100 is good Grumblo_Pray

humble radish
#

only 11 chests tho

pale vortex
high dune
teal lynx
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You would want to use the Midas Minded prayer for more drop rate -> As long as you still one shot the enemy

high dune
humble radish
#

this dood took all my money

teal lynx
#

Hopefully you got monument afk gains Grumblo_Pray (and justice multi even if it doesn't work)

high dune
#

yo in general how much time you time takes to onyx statues

high dune
digital plover
#

can someone link me the hole guide? I can't seem to find it

digital plover
#

tyty

high dune
#

justice league

final verge
#

what is the recipe for cheese?

high dune
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milk + bacteria

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jk but which one you talking bout

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GuyMontag this thing missing is hell

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yo xayayah which statue should i use as a benchmark btw, thnx mate

humble radish
#

took me long time till i got it

high dune
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ik

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even the w5 one got me throwing hands

humble radish
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i got 1 in 300mill hat in 1 day

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but that weapon took like 2 months

high dune
#

damn

humble radish
#

was unlucky

high dune
#

i cant even make a single godshard gear so i ain't worrying

humble radish
#

only because godshard bars?

high dune
#

150K ores per gear is insane tho

humble radish
#

if yeas dont worry with hole update its easy

high dune
humble radish
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and i am not even trying

high dune
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the mob drops i can farm over week or two ig

high dune
humble radish
#

in hole

high dune
#

forge cap one?

humble radish
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there is upgrade for forge capacity

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and then you can use candy on archer for forge progress

high dune
#

how many points you used up on that?

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cuz i ain't even got 1

humble radish
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i used all but you probably should not

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i have 30mill cap now

high dune
#

yeah i love my pocket doot

humble radish
#

too much laugh

high dune
#

is 300 boss farming viable tho?

humble radish
high dune
humble radish
high dune
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5131 - start at 11:16
5160 - after 5 mins
im cooked gonna a while for w5 statue

high dune
humble radish
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2/4 enchance should be fine

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3 max i would say

high dune
#

in gemshop how much is a cosmo point?

humble radish
#

last ones are 500i forgot what the first ones were

high dune
#

oh aight then i might buy 1-2 then

humble radish
#

but depends what upgrades you have

high dune
humble radish
#

it might be worth just getting hole bonuses

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and waiting for villager to lvl up

high dune
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yeah

humble radish
#

what did you invest in

high dune
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exp and max pocket doot

humble radish
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i have lvl 20 so it doesnt matter that much to me

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and already have doot so didnt need that

high dune
#

what should i do to get higher exp?

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cuz im kinda cooked with all the grinds

humble radish
#

this bonus is huge for xp

high dune
humble radish
#

other xp are just addictive not multi so they arent that good

high dune
#

but opals is rare thing for me

humble radish
#

do you have wishes unlocked?

high dune
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yeah

humble radish
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for opal reset

high dune
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yeah i think

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got like 3 wishes afiak

humble radish
#

if you put all opals in 1 villager you will get so much more xp than if you would have opals on all of them

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since the every 10th opal bonus

high dune
#

wish i had a checklist for all milestones or grinds

humble radish
#

but you can lvl up only 1 at time

high dune
#

i do 2-1-1 ratio villager wise

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for opals

humble radish
#

is your first one caught up to justice?

high dune
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nah

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wishes only

humble radish
#

then i would reset opals put all on first one when he is caught up i would go to engineer

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after engieneer is done then measurement and after thatt you can leave him at conjuror

high dune
#

really

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?

humble radish
#

how many opals do you have

high dune
#

aint wishes hard to come by?

humble radish
#

all together

simple bramble
#

if at c9 is it still worth to allocate all back to him just to get c10?

high dune
humble radish
#

oh then that may not be worth

high dune
#

ik

humble radish
#

are you doing all cave stuff?

high dune
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idk how to hole

hardy owl
#

are the justice and bravery xp bonuses additiave/multipicative with each other?

humble radish
#

just from well i have 13

high dune
humble radish
#

you just need gravel from that

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here you need to leave your mining char afk is best and then break layer when you can

high dune
#

been lazying around and farming statues

humble radish
#

at den you set the most bonuses oyu can handle and just get most score for most opals

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monument is rng after end of run for opal

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tho opal chance bonus helps

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bell you chance to green one for opals

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at harp you need to set note to D to get opals

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and that whould be caught up

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maybe save the wishes

high dune
#

aight

humble radish
#

xp bonuses arent as big as you would think for xp

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opals help the most

graceful fern
graceful fern
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Thanks man

paper plank
#

To maxamize #free-gem-contest๐Ÿ’Ž 58 we need to have the green present win but not by a large margin an also have smileys faces as high as possible without beating green present to maxamize amount of winners and gems gained

sweet nebula
#

I left it on over night hoping itโ€™d be over hahah

humble radish
analog raven
#

I need some help with pocket divinity

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so i'm early w5

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I got only nobisect, snake and arctis bear right now. if i claim divinity for one god, can i reset it later?

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it's okie

#

u tried ur best ty

flint belfry
#

Hi !
Question please ๐Ÿฅบ

If I fail in story monuments, will I lose every bonus earnt ?

simple bramble
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all bonuses earned that fight.

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not bonuses from yesterday etc

flint belfry
#

Only in that fight...ok !

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And what exactly the "retelling" bonus does ?

fallow aurora
simple bramble
#

restarts the one fight not the entire thing

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say you're fighting something with 25k health you'll refight him not go back to the 10 hp guy

flint belfry
#

Understood, thanks a lot bro

analog raven
tidal cedar
#

is there a quick way to max items in shop? Every inventory seems to require to hold the plus button to max the items slowly

graceful fern
#

You can max buy a item by clicking quick and the + button on your desired item, you still need to drag the item to buy at the end.

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I dont know If there are any way to max out every item in the store at once tho

slow swan
#

Quick confirmation, but my chests from petulent garage seem to have no artifact find chance, despite never getting an artifact from there. I can get the regular materials, though. its also blacked out, a bit different from other spots, is this correct or is there a pre req idk about

light herald
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does anybody know where the hole guide is at

light herald
#

thanks

graceful fern
autumn marlin
#

can someone elaborate?

#

does this mean all my charachters now have the major and minor bonus from the divinity in question?

tidal cedar
high dune
#

so considering w5 statues farm, could farming on bubo be also viable to get grind time bubble going?

sick sentinel
#

Yeah bubo is fine and wurms is bubos best cc map anyway, but it won't be that close to the same amount as dk can get

high dune
#

also is double reset a big issue on dk orb?

sick sentinel
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Only around certain talent levels. If you can go 325+ then you gain more than you lose at that point

fallow aurora
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267 with the Mana Post office Box maxed. There is no delay on the Orb
300 without the Mana PO Box - Cooldown is longer on the Orb and doesn't recast
Everything above 315 with Mana PO Box -> The Orb now has an exact 5 second delay between the talent getting off cooldown and the orb ending.

high dune
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idk mate, torn between active bubo or dk like i like the general benefit i get from bubo too but might end up being too slow i feel

high dune
#

so should i scale down?

sick sentinel
#

Is 303 ur max possible rn?

high dune
#

what do you guys think bout active dk vs bubo

high dune
#

yeah

sick sentinel
#

They both have their purposes so they are both good to active

light herald
#

im going to assume i should reset this?

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once i can

surreal kite
#

starting to get there...

thorny nacelle
bitter echo
#

Im nearing my 9th character, Suggestions for what to go? So far my only duplicate is DK

fierce cargo
high dune
#

i mean onyx ain't THE priority for me

fringe umbra
#

does anyone know if linking to Arctis and Goharut actually works?

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for giving divinity afk time that is

sly sentinel
#

i don think it works in that way, i could be worng though

solar seal
# fringe umbra does anyone know if linking to Arctis and Goharut actually works?

With Pocket Divinity/Doot, why am I unable to gain Divinity XP/Points when I have Bear and Goat selected?
Bear and Goat do not have any beneficial overlap with respect to Lab/Divinity. Bear simply makes you 'active in the Lab mainframe' it does not make you actually 'connected to' Lab, which is what is required for Goat. Since you are not connected to Lab, the Goat Major Bonus does not trigger and you will not gain Divinity XP/Points from your current stance (excluding Tranqi which does not require active meditation).
TL:DR You need to actually be in Lab to gain Divinity Points, Bear doesn't count.
Note: This isn't to say you would never utilize both Bear and Goat at same time. The trio of Bear/Goat/Snake is the ideal combo for when you are doing resamples.

weary marlin
#

I just unlocked Cavern 10 and have accumulated a multi of 3.8.
As a bonus, I can now select an opal, among other things. Would I then receive > 3x opals?

terse verge
#

Bonus multi is already shown in chests. Opals are never affected

weary marlin
#

sadge

terse verge
#

Only bonus that affects opal is if you luck into a blue chest for 2

fringe umbra
wispy birch
#

I just got arctis todayhappytroll

unborn siren
#

For the bell, do you need to renew it for the improvement methods to reflect?
I'm at level 80, 12, and 145 for the first improvement methods but the amount per hour still hasn't changed at all.

sick sentinel
#

No they upgrade in real time. maybe try cloudsaving to see if it updates

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Also check the different setting cause they are for ring, ping, clean options

merry willow
#

What pet setup do I need for this?

merry willow
vocal flower
#

Why tho

fierce cargo
#

it's still good

#

you should definitely buy all enders

#

that hidden multi is no joke

merry willow
fierce cargo
#

why not

merry willow
#

what's the next bonus after this one?

bleak gazelle
fierce cargo
#

wiki tells you

pastel kayak
#

Won 1 or 2 more pet arena battles yesterday @bleak gazelle

high dune
humble radish
high dune
#

does it matter?

#

rn i got 9x forge cap

humble radish
#

i mean you will get less bars per ore

high dune
#

by how much?

humble radish
#

but other than that no

#

if you have enough ore gain then it doesnt matter

high dune
#

how do i check that?

humble radish
#

how much do you print

high dune
#

cuz im gonna be poppin a lot of candies rn

high dune
humble radish
#

also oyu dont need a lot of candy

high dune
humble radish
#

if you use it on w1 map where you get lot of kills

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i went out of 1bill ore in about 12h of candy

high dune
humble radish
high dune
humble radish
#

what is your forge cap now

high dune
#

around 500k+

humble radish
#

yeah use 1h candy then since the other ones would be waste

high dune
#

ofc

#

i have 77 i hour candies imma try that

humble radish
#

oh i though you have more

high dune
humble radish
#

used on what?

high dune
#

gmush

humble radish
#

bruh

high dune
#

atleast i got the kills

humble radish
high dune
#

imma use 2 hr ones too

#

i dont even use candies bruh

humble radish
#

are you w6?

high dune
#

ofc

humble radish
#

ok at least you cant use them to progress

high dune
#

ye

#

time to sploink

humble radish
#

i had like 6k and 4k

#

and i dont want to use more since it feels like wasting

#

waiting to get more multikill/dmg and stuff and then i will use it

worldly lagoon
#

saaame

humble radish
#

or if lava enables candy for hole

#

for statues

worldly lagoon
#

using candy is a waste cuz they will always be better in the future

pastel kayak
#

@worldly lagoon I won like 1-2 pet arena battles yesterday again

humble radish
#

i use them if i only need something right now

worldly lagoon
#

i won 3 yesterday it gets rough

humble radish
#

i need to win last one but i dont wanna do it

#

DEAD so much pain

pastel kayak
#

Plus got like 6 new pets in arena this week too @worldly lagoon

worldly lagoon
#

nice keep it up

high dune
#

also wishes get affected by golden watch?

#

uff

bleak gazelle
#

ayo just beat 58 endless, 2 more equinox levels GuyMontag

#

i just finished symbols and thought I could level nugget, lul

worldly lagoon
high dune
#

i wanted one more conjurer pt

#

well rip

#

idk how imma farm 345 gems in one go

bleak gazelle
#

daily boss farm gives ~200 average

high dune
#

i ain't that stuff bruh

worldly lagoon
#

swipe dat credit card

teal phoenix
#

whats the best way to farm golden sandwiches and golden hampters

ivory warren
#

there are only 17 levels for engineer that actuall has schematics right now right?

velvet thistle
#

about this talent from the w5 merit shop: does the max lvl increase by 30 each time you buy it in the merit shop? or is level 30 the max lvl after buying the shop out

jovial crater
#

How many bits does the next evolution give compared to the previous for gaming?

terse verge
fresh barn
#

Does anyone know what the fastest way to farm volcano keys is?

terse verge
errant pond
fresh barn
#

thank u but what char should I farm the tremor works with Grumblo_Pray

ivory warren
terse verge
velvet thistle
#

then im buying the other stuff first

red slate
#

what would be the best? and how often do these extra bonus chests appear?

worldly lagoon
#

that's rough

#

the 26 buff is kinda bad, i guess harp note gain is still best even though it doesn't work yet

cursive cosmos
#

i think it's a 1% chance according to my experience

marble lotus
#

am I doing something wrong if I'm getting more of the other statues than power on beans?

peak verge
#

Nop. That's just how it is.

#

Power and Heart statues are 1/9 chance, Lumber and Mining are 1/4, speed is 1/15, feasty and beholder are 1/20.

Pick the one you want to get the most and that's the one you'll get the least. happytroll

errant lodge
#

how do i use a retelling in bravery?

#

do i have to lose for it to appear?

teal lynx
#

retelling ^^
Yes you just need to lose for that to happen

peak verge
errant lodge
#

ty

marble lotus
#

I just noticed that I yeeted my mining pearls EmojiSuperSad

pastel kayak
#

@teal lynx want the heat from here?

stable parrot
#

85 is light work

marble lotus
#

does multikill help for statue farming? or should I midas minded

stable parrot
#

MK is the most important thing

plucky scarab
#

Guys what the best oddities upgrade to buy? Is it the resource multiplier? Or double village exp? Or the others?

worldly lagoon
#

exp for each villager

plucky scarab
#

Okay

sterile bison
#

What could i have done that would rapidly reduce my justice dmg

#

it went down by like 30 k

pastel kayak
sick sentinel
# marble lotus does multikill help for statue farming? or should I midas minded

mk only works on dragon statues while afk farming in c9 hole, because it is the base drop/top left drop on the mob card. outside of that it does not help. dk (midas good), drop rate, choco chip, and crystal chance with high orb level is best for any statues coming from world crystal mobs. for the world 3 skill statues and bullseye use es (midas usually bad unless you killcap portal with lots of dmg) with dmg and drop rate since they come from the mob drop table

prime bough
#

Is Level 18 the cap on Engineer at the moment?

stable parrot
#

I think, I remember someone saying engi 18 has the last bucket now

worldly lagoon
prime bough
high sundial
# worldly lagoon apparently the justice harp note buff doesn't

Ya neither does lamp so I wanted to figure out the % and do math this is what I found.

Figured it out 2.25% per level (with the doubler) so 1 extra lamp/day costs 45 levels while harp is at the miment broken as well you get a .10x multiplier per level ya I think harp multiplier may just be better for lamps it's nice if you get it with no other bonuses youd want instead, but harp is probably better than lamp

stable parrot
#

Yea, after that do majik or prepping for the next layer

high sundial
#

So if your getting a 1x true multiplier/10 levels of harp you'd more than likely get more lamps from measurer notes than lamp% it's still decent for lamp but harp makes more sense

#

As well as affecting more harp gains from measurer and bravery dmg

olive nacelle
#

what do you do with the harp?

faint wigeon
#

strike the string to get note

#

note power need to be 100% or more to gain note

bleak gazelle
marble lotus
#

where is the crystal spawn chance stat in IT or IE

sterile bison
#

On it hover the i on the character and it will say on ie i think itโ€™s under player then stats

marble lotus
#

thanks

analog raven
#

Hello all

#

If I want to link to two additional gods, what should i aim for in the majik slots?

#

I currently have two points to spend now

bleak gazelle
analog raven
fallow aurora
#

u can later in c7

analog raven
#

tyty, cus i'm planning to buy the 12 jewels in the guide now

#

gonna be awhile until i get to c7

covert berry
#

If I swap maps does my orb of remembrance keep the amount of kills or does it reset back to 0?

#

A little confused because it still shows the buff in the top right corner even though i swapped maps

bleak gazelle
#

resets to 0

covert berry
covert berry
bleak gazelle
#

you can keep killing, you just won't have the visual counter

#

and whatever shorter amount of time on the buff

covert berry
#

tyvm

covert berry
brave fable
#

see ion know anything

bleak gazelle
covert berry
#

Thought about it because of the npc in world 3 that just summons a bunch of enemies

bleak gazelle
#

so i guess technically that one w5 achievement needs 400 single orb count NODDERS

solar seal
pastel kayak
#

@bleak gazelle getting close to 2k hours

bleak gazelle
sage urchin
#

can i sample statue from hole ? since its first drop

fallow aurora
#

u can't sample in hole

fierce cargo
#

how lovely would that be

spring oar
#

What does equinox max lvl do in the summoning bonuses? Couldnโ€™t see a difference in equinox after getting it

fierce cargo
#

gives +1 max level to the bottom bubbles, the ones you can level up

solar seal
#

(not just bottom, there are a few in top row too)

pastel kayak
#

Finally got the update on my iPad now @bleak gazelle so can play again

late marsh
#

how do i get my 2nd diety as es?

bleak gazelle
#

Check the 2nd ๐Ÿ“Œ

errant saffron
#

๐™ฒ๐š‘๐šŽ๐šŒ๐š” ๐š๐š‘๐š˜๐šœ๐šŽ ๐š˜๐šž๐š

pastel kayak
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@bleak gazelle can I stalk you in game?

bleak gazelle
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not right now

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boss farming

pastel kayak
fallow aurora
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I hate boss farming but i've been doing it daily to get the stuff from limited time shop

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I should've stocked some up before the update GuyMontag

stable parrot
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The DR keychains hurt me a little

icy raptor
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Does anyone know how to get reward multi at Bravery

solar seal
# icy raptor Does anyone know how to get reward multi at Bravery

How do I increase my Bravery multi? What multi should I be waiting for?
The reward multi simply exists to not punish you for failing to attempt a Story Telling Run every 20 hours on cooldown. The multi increases at 0.05/hr - thereby allowing you to do 1 run at 20 hours. It will keep this pace up to 48 hrs for a multi of 2.4x. After this point, the rate drops considerably so it is recommended that you don't wait beyond the 2.4x multi or 48 hours to do a run.
While you are below the average expected amount of opals (currently around 10-11), it is recommended that you don't wait to stack your multi as it does not affect how many opals you can get per run. If you are at or above the expected average for the community, you can decide to wait to do a run at a higher multi.
TL:DR - no need to chase reward multi, just do Story Telling before you hit 2.4x

fierce cargo
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and if you have colo tickets do those too

stable parrot
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I already bought them, but clicking buy hurt

fierce cargo
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oh

stable parrot
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I have a stockpile of gems for moments like these

fierce cargo
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why does it hurt lol

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it's worth every gem

stable parrot
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1.4k gems is a lot

pastel kayak
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Who wants the heat from here?

round palm
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have people figured out the best gloomie mushroom farmer?

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Okay it was in the tips section ๐Ÿ™‚ SB for active because of skulls respawning the mobs, if anyone else needs the info ๐Ÿ™‚

pastel kayak
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@bleak gazelle how to fix so get spice from last 3 I have unlocked?

bleak gazelle
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can follow this setup

radiant jewel
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so if you buy a sailing recruit and you dont have the space open for them you lose the gold?

bleak gazelle
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huh, i guess. thought it didn't allow you to buy it

rich stratus
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very nice woo hoo

analog raven
radiant jewel
pastel kayak
bleak gazelle
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bean should be one

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or crabcake

pastel kayak
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Ok I need to breed some of them 2

dreamy merlin
pastel kayak
inner belfry
bleak gazelle
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make sure you're spending all your eggs, even if you trash pets so that you can get exp

craggy obsidian
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W5 les goooo

bleak gazelle
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Welcome in wave_kitty check out the 3rd ๐Ÿ“Œ for a bunch of info for starting W5 and boss requirements

inner belfry
pastel kayak
bleak gazelle
inner belfry
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wait. Ig with Caverns now its no longer stay on divinity till you get old and die

bleak gazelle
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no, now it's stay on div and monuments happytroll

inner belfry
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World 5 should have its background changed to dust piles

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and all of the monsters dust themed.

craggy obsidian
inner belfry
craggy obsidian
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oh ic

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i put them all on divinity already

inner belfry
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your carry pushes to unlock caverns then heads back for divinity

craggy obsidian
inner belfry
faint wigeon
craggy obsidian
faint wigeon
inner belfry
craggy obsidian
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not sure how it all works but imma watch a vid:D

craggy obsidian
faint wigeon
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also that means you can pretty much skip the first 2 map but to unlock the merit task you need to kill the first mob i reckon

craggy obsidian
inner belfry
# craggy obsidian both

Dont be fooled by bear god. As Hare god is just better lol. Beeing in labs is the same as beeing on divinity alter.

Bear god is you are always on alter but dont get EXP

faint wigeon
inner belfry
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Im backwards

faint wigeon
inner belfry
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You do skip over colleseum if you dont unlock zone 2

faint wigeon
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its not like you'll do colo as soon as you unlock it, only time I did it was to get a key when I finished pushing w5 and was at kruk door

inner belfry
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I was hitting world 5 as fishing came out, i was basicly already able to get to world 6 by the time i touched the world 5 colleseum

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That was also without keeping up with my Alchemy correctly and beeing extremely behind on it.

faint wigeon
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damn

dreamy merlin
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can you not just tp to hole and walk backwards to the previous maps for those things? GuyMontag

faint wigeon
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ohhh yeah you can happytroll

inner belfry
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There a good source for Artifact rng?

faint wigeon
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wat

inner belfry
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Like im desperatly working for Eldritch Fury Relic and im curious as to its drop chance

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realizes ive been playing the game all day and there was an update

faint wigeon
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oh well beside the artifact that boost the art find chance and captain with it i dont see

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LMAO

inner belfry
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running that alchemy i mentioned earlier ive been behind on lol

faint wigeon
inner belfry
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Imy favorite bethesda feature rn is Shrines in the caverns go invisible

wraith granite
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should i invest all my 114 opals into the same villager and level them up one by one from now on? villager levels are 10 - 16 - 18 - 9

faint wigeon
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do what you want with this

inner belfry
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why would you skimp out on Conjurer?

faint wigeon
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no idea

bleak gazelle
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2/3 of conjuror power relates to villager xp and increasing bonuses you get from other caverns

wraith granite
bleak gazelle
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the faster you get new caverns, the faster you get more opals

inner belfry
faint wigeon
wraith granite
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i suppose i can just try it and go back if i dont find it that good

bleak gazelle
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you need opals, which primarily come from caverns, in order to make use of ~1/3 of Conjuror bonuses.
you need caverns, which come from Explorer, in order to make use of another 1/3 of Conjuror bonuses
you don't really need to go beyond 2 points in the last 1/3 of Conjuror bonuses

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That list is also predicated on you buying the 10-12 conjuror points from the gem shop, I think Trickz mentioned that at the top. So if you aren't buying those, then you can put more points in

inner belfry
# faint wigeon

i guess if you have more money then you know what to do with. They cost too damn much to even be worth it otherwise

faint wigeon
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yeah GuyMontag

pastel kayak
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@bleak gazelle getting close to 20k of them now

magic crypt
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why do crystal monsters in crystal island have so much health

blazing juniper
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what does isotops in gaming do?

steep flame