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Its the best until you reach divinity lvl 80
yeah
Cause I plan full to run mantra after goat. Before then I am doin focus to unlock goat.
Nice.
you get lab afk gain based on your stance even in lab with goat
rip
Really thankful for 2x multi relics event. Got this relic and ancient one an hour after.
Nice
I havent gotten a single ancient relic so far
How much more rare are they?
huh.
so you don't need to get to area 3 to access the hole
it's unlocked by default in teleport menu
did a 50/50 thrice and all of them failed
so not sure
Are you a gambling man?
That's all there is to it. 
I always go for it (only worked once out of 4 attempts)
does being linked to arctis and goharut at the same time make goharut work?
bear says "always active within lab" while goat says "being connected to lab"
no
What's a good damage range for BB and Vman for Nightmare Kattlekruk? I know I'm not there yet (so no "defeat Nightmare KK on 10 characters, starting with first" for me just yet), just would like an idea how far from the goal I am.
what does this do
another life/full rerun
pog
and you lose your multi i think
Earliest recommended is ~100B (you can see ๐ by trickz for some tips for doing fight as vman which similarly applies to BB) - for more comfortable fight, the recommendation is closer to ~250B
hrm, not as far away as I feared. Good to know.
after you fail a single stage it auto replays that stage. It's not a full rerun of the entire story
What does it mean by rift 17? It says that I have to kill a monster with a lava skull on 2 characters, do I have to kill monsters for a long time to get the skulls to spread or is there a strategy to it
What is the best way to do this Lava Skull on 2 characters challenge for equinox?
Short explanation re: skull mechanics - every time you kill a mob with a skull, it has a 50% chance to jump to another mob and 50% chance to fizzle into nothing. If it jumps to a mob with the same tier skull already on it, it then evolves to next skull. White > Bronze > Silver > Gold > Platinum > Lava.
Because of the way skull mechanics work, you want a class with a) a respawn mechanic that b) does not require/cause full map wipes. Generally, SB's are the best class for this (though some opinions will vary). Word of caution re: ES - if your skulls jump to a portal mob that then despawns, those skulls are forever lost - why I generally do not recommend ES.
how get damage :(
So I just found out that the retelling is only for that one round for that day. It just restarts that failed story.
me when main beast master and cant do kattlekruk because bad aoe
Smh you and your copy pastas
Es was much faster for me
Evry time
like i said, opinions vary. i don't recommend it cause hard to gauge people's strength in rift and ES can cause you to lose skulls
Alchemy (notably bubbles 1,2,6,11,21,25), stamps, cards + card sets, star signs (bulwark, fiesty, overachiever), equinox (scims), meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, clickers (W1 owl, W2 kangaroo rat), gear (including tools), and especially talents (booking for higher max level) are all sources of damage
Ngl when i did it with es i barely oneshotted
Maybe I just got very lucky that one time tho
You only do the lava skull challenge 3 times so in long scheme of things, I don't usually fuss over the differences b/w the classes. Once people understand what the mechanic is (which game does terrible job of explaining) they'll just use whatever class either way
Ace tells people he did it on BB
Peak trolling
Around 10b
oh
i jsut noticed that only appeared after the hole
what card is it tho can u ss
it's this mushroom guy you can fight in cavern 9 gives an additive villager xp bonus
damn too far
So I've been doing this, I've left the top row of equinox but when I kill mobs on other rows then the skulls disappear cause I had a plat skull on a mob but then I check on it after killing more mobs from other rows and it doesn't have it anymore
Like the mob just loses its skull even though it hasn't been killed
What damage do I need for regular kattlekruk on a DK
just for people curious about retelling from bravery - as I just tested it - and seen people getting confused with the initial free retry you get once:
if you fail on your throws in a fight (so enemy still has HP left after the last sword), the fight restarts automatically (the last one)
restart means you get any used rerolls (had 4, used them all, got all 4 back) and you keep your stacked damage from "First try, I swear!" (the thing where you stack up damage for direct kill on last sword throw)
also you keep any bonus you collected so far
so in short retelling just makes it so as if the lost fight never happened

What class is a good candidate for first troll / magma set ?
The one you use the most.
if you end up at Divine armor, both ES and DK make use of the DR bonus from boots/helmet
alrighty. yeah i found im on DK and Es mostly but im at a point where i need to finish the 10k plunderous grind and im at 3.23k so i was thinking about sb but i also just got active bubo and i think doing them would increase my gains there plus could gear swap with es.
I mean you can put it on SB if you don't one shot the plunder mobs, just don't put stones in it so you can pass it on later.
is fill rate per bucket? or all together
which god should i link with my omni linkers? got the second hole connection and unlicked all my omniphau dudes
goat or rabbit
Per bucket
real link - all arctis, 2nd es on purrmep (this es poly's to bear)
1st pocket - harriep
2nd pocket - as needed
1st es poly can be whatever you want
How is the minor link bonus increased?
does real link matter? doesnt the statue give minor bonus
as in can i not swap the real link w one of the pockets
divinity level
theres also a bubble
i just want to make sure
i dont have to be linked to a god to have their buffs if i have Doot pet right?
i just need to be linked to level them up
what's your guys take on bravery multiplier?
i am still confused
I think arctis and the talent levels had some weird interaction if you linked via hole so it was easier to just have it as main link.
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ill just assume the answer is i dont have to be linked
is that also the reason behind 2nd es on rabbit instead of first?
You need to be linked for the minor links.
so doot is only for majors, ok
Cat*, not rabbit. You can have it on the first ES as well but you're just swapping spots with the 2nd one.
I don't get what am I suppose to do?
Drag your mouse from left to right over the strings.
oh thanks
Yea I did
And you're consuming the harp energy when plucking it?
The percentage that increase at the top
needs to be minimum 100
Oh does it go up with out ucming it
enough for kattlekruk with BM?
Noneude
consumes all charges to give stuff
i know pins but uhhh
how do i increase minor link for total damage
i dont understand how minor links worjk
Same
div levels
Ggalex I'm not sure
mines at 150 w 85 div levels
for specific character or acc wide
each character's own div level
thats why minor link amount changes for each char
Wait minum dmg
hey question, i dont what i did but suddenly my bucket fill rate went from 30.000 to 15.000. i have looked through the enchantments but idk what cut the bucked fill rate in half. Anyone know?
To my knowledge, at least as far as I got, there aren't any bucket buffs that scale based on resources you can lose/spend. You sure you didn't go from 3.000 to 15.000?
Is the bucket fill rate per hour in the hole for every bucket together or just on bucket ? :o
Per bucket
is C10 available or do i respec out of explorer once i hit C9
Why BM ๐ญ
c10 doesnt have content no
chose that as main and every other is unleveled af lmao
i was able to do it although it took 4ever
was it enough to out damage the healing
What does enhancing pocket div do?
adds a link
So two instead of one?
yes, plus the one in town
why should I renew? I haven't done it yet but I don't want to lose all those
You renew after you unlock the engi upgrade that gives a chance for bellrings to be x3. And then later down the line if we get more upgrades like that. For now, upgrading then will get you a stronger bell after you give it some time to catch back up.
ah yeah, I just unlocked the triple tap tinkle
is there a way i should do bell or just work from start and get them all?
so like in the hole. for the cosmo conjuror. what is the best divinity to connect too?
real link - all arctis, 2nd es on purrmep (this es poly's to bear)
1st pocket - harriep
2nd pocket - as needed
1st es poly can be whatever you want
interesting. Thanks!
Hi ! can i unlock the dark statue with one char and then do the quest with all others ?
Dark statue?
The tier after gold
Ah, onyx. Yeah, you can do the quest on everyone. It's even recommended since you get a lot of extra statues to deposit.
You'll have to save 20k power statues to progress on everyone which is the annoying part.
I start farming ^^ i have at least 20k on 7 statues type but only 5k body
Hey guys, should i spend my gems on Resource boost before i put anything in Conjuror pts in the gemshop?
Are you dooted?
For same reason when the new update came I hadn't -5 opals. Did it only happen to me?
what conjur bonuses y'all buying?
damn you got a lot of points XD. cool looks good, yep im thinking top two in village are most imporatant?
yeah, since they give a huge chunk of villager exp
if you don't have doot, make sure you take first green and enhance it too for 6x prints and omni procs
and the last one in Village is pretty huge, but you need some lvls in measurer first
i bought all 12 points out of the Gem shop 
also y'all probably know already but i didnt get this at first: the 10 opal bonus stacks i.e. 30 is bonus x bonus x bonus not 3 x bonus. so its incredibly powerful
Guys what are schematic?
Ahhh
Ok thanks
Another question how do i unlock the 3rd Note from the stirng i have 2 strings and e note
one of the later schematics
level 10 engineer. or do you mean type of notes like the clef/double etc?
No man i mean thoes
buy them at the harp
Ohhh ok
Bro you are coocking the New update man how do you know all this man
glad i could help. discord answers a lot of my questions
may I solicit advice
Opal
Currently chance for bravery opals has not been leveled at all
1 > 3 > 2
everytime you can get an opal you take it
opal > chance > exp > bucket > other stff
Alright sounds good, thank you both!
if you're early into hole, you can prio xp/bucket over chance
Bits > everything 
on testing, contented creator (xp per schematic) seems pretty bad to enhance. with 40 opals invested it only actually gave me x1.03 exp - the 10 opal bonus just dwarves the others, would not recommend
opal enthusiaum is 100% best thing to enhance though (the 10 opal one)
... I guess not bad for 9 nightmare runs?
Hey is it just me, but when afk the bucket doesnt actually fill, ive been away for 20 hours and it didnt fill at all
if you are afk the bar expander will only work once on login
ahhhhhhhhhh
so you will come back to a half bar that only grew once
does it only expand when you are in the area or if you are like farming on other maps will it expand?
not indefinite, depends on your upgrades
anywhere
From anywhere as long as you're online.
best to spread your buckets out and do unlocks overnight
What does story retelling do in cavern 4?
I've just been DK farming golden foods for 100k cakes, I'll be switching to ES tonight to start on ghosts and shells, that way I'm always expanding. Always be expanding. Coffee is for expanders.
like an extra life if you fail, but have to start over
Ohh thanks ๐
You only get to redo that one battle that you failed not the whole story
do you get your sword retries back?
thanks for clarifying, I haven't unlocked it yet
No idea. Haven't gotten there yet, but I saw some stuff in the other chats
thanks!
how many +% world 7 do i need to unlock w7?
~1000000000000000%
cool i only need about 100% more then
Just unlocked chem plants. Do I pick them last? Iโve also seen people saving them, is there any point to that excluding the dream?
Just for the dream.
And the picking order is last?
Chem Chains: Pick a Chem plant -> Click Shovel + Squirrel -> Harvest All -> Sprinkler -> Harvest all -> Sprinkler if it reset -> Log if needed -> Chem plant -> repeat
This too
https://imgur.com/vW3ZqeI
Alright thanks
these are taking forever 
you can do it headless
I feel like it may be a stupid question, but how do I put sailing gold bars on my inventory? Pirate porkchop asks for 4000 for a quest but I have no idea how to complete the quest. I have more than the 4k bars in sailing
Vman speedrun tips? did 1 but what skills go where etc?
it should jsut take them straight from sailing, you def have enough?
It should automatically recognize it
Try reloading the map
And go to sailing screen
maybe chuck in a cloud save o cover all the options
broke 1000 power on red salt!
how does one unlock more harp upgrades?
Solved by trying on web, I was on phone
how do you mean? theres more in further schmatics, or you mean specific notes/strings?
how do i get those schematics, is it based off the cord lvls or just unlocking previous ones>
your engineer gives you three schmatics a level

anyone that has reach 2k hours in bravery and if so did you stop doing bravery or still afk there ? ๐
how much more damage to kill wordl 5 boss?
i got 2k today, still going. with inf summoning bonueses it aint so bad
tyty
oh my god
I've just found out that giant mobs drop gems
I missed out on WAY too many gems
how long should i wait to harvest gaming plants?? im sure it depends on growth time which mine is currently 4.99hrs. just a general idea would help, thanks!
let them evolve a couple times
although sounds like your maybe quite early in gaming, so at that stage you might just want fast bits for upgrades, so maybe harvest straight away... but yeah a few evo on them gets more efficent later
bet tyty
What do you need help with specifically?
Essence gain
Go to idleon insight and look up summoning essence
๐
i forgot to move my shrines when candying w2-w4 eclipse skulls 
can anyone with names starting with p or s help me
Do balloons or xp orbs work with divinity? They donโt seem to be working for me but am I doing things wrong or do they not work with divinity?
they do not
Patience is a virtue looked favorably upon by the divine
What does Monument "Chance for bravery opals" do? Does it make it more likley to get opals in the next chests? In the rest of the current story? Or for the next story?
So it boosts divinity exp%?
Gonna become to most virtous person asap
for the next story i believe, as you don't technically get the bonuses until you end the run
Yea itโs a linear bonus, the longer youโre patient the more xp and points you receive
Should I always wait for 2.5 multi for bravery?
how does even harp works ?
Does anybody know if theres a spreadsheet or some sort of doc outlining all the engineer and conjuror bonuses you can unlock?
if you're still going for opals (which you probably should be), then 1x is best. later down the line (no one in endgame is really doing this yet), 2.4x would be the max multi you'd want to wait for
@bleak gazelle thanks!
You get to play silly songs
also #1303761365273415700 but wait for 100%+ power then strum the strings with mouse/finger
Bet thanks I am a little rat and constantly going for bucket fill and xp Iโll grab opals every once in awhile but I know Iโm slowing my progress down
actual opals should always be your #1 priority as villager levels are crucial to everything else in hole. since multi doesn't affect opals, it's best to run as often as possible. additional bonus is that if you fail, you lose out on less
Bet and for harp should I be leveling strings equally? Theyโre really unbalanced
23 - C
14 - D
14 - E
Question related to onyx statues, for defense statues, is it better to active chop palm trees or idle chop?
that should be fine for now. all in on C to gather notes for new unlocks is good
My bad c is 16 and E is 15
defense you can get from w2 crystals
Not much of a difference ๐คฃ
yeah i'd still probably just push to get F and G unlocked
Okay bet
once you get G you can use that to level everything else
Okay sweet Iโll do that I wasted 13k harp power this morning killed me a little inside
how many strings do you have?
Only strung 1 to go buy another string then came back to 0 idk what I was thinking ๐คฃ but I should be a bit further it feels
8
do you have Engi 10 unlocked?
Yes
7, 10, 11, 5 are my levels in order
Exploring should be coming up on 8 here soon
you can always do one D and E at the beginning if you want a bit of xp, but I think around 15 is fine for now
Okay thanks Iโll hard focus unlocking the next couple notes
How fast do you need your plants to grow for instant gaming? I'm at 1.1min and it's pretty fast but not instant
If you're at the time on fert, then you're pretty close. You'll need about 250% squirrel speed, 150+ farming crops, maybe some more kitsune speed
are you gaming in w5 town?
If I game there, plants respawn far slower than any other map, so I avoid w5 town
cool, probably just missing farming crops then. can check out how close you are with this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OHVfSkPip6HazTMQOthG6zml0SYrHnef88CdiAflluo/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Thanks!
What exactly you mean with Farming crops about Gaming ?? I think i miss that too ?
there's a jade emporium upgrade that gives "gaming evo chance" or something. but all evo chance == speed, so it's a huge multiplier that makes instant gaming possible
Oh ok i Need to Check it tomorrow thanks
Hey i feel like my highest damage isnt calculated correctly? What can i do to make it sync up? i already cloudsaved
check lab bonuses, obols, cards, sets, starsigns, vman talents 
ahh sorry i meant specifically for the measurement bonus 6
I got a question
should be based of your W2 first merit
For harp in w5 hole do I have to have someone at harp for it to work?
no, power is gained passively
then you just use power whenever to gain actual rewards
ohh right right, it has some confusing wording imo, i just thought it checked the char with the highest damage
Oh shit I actually have to drag my finger across the strings
It all makes sense now 
From 5 mutated mush 
no dk orb stacking?
That shit lackluster, god damn
good point made by xayah
I was 
Never
seems low 
How are people sampling for like billions?
๐ผ 
My Dr is only 10.72x 
lots of efficiency and afk%, not playing on mobile
What wrong with mobile 
overflow issue causing your samples to go negative
Oh yeah
Also have you understood this is my reason for lacklustre candies?
nah, 5 bosses only giving 5 1h candy? what'd your orb get up to?
220
That's 14 hour average per miniboss. That is not bad for 10.72x dr
I don't know xayah this seems more than 14h
Wait you said per miniboss nvm
Reading hard
Hello guys, i just won the wave 50 of Citric Conflict using only Party and Boulder towers but didn't get the No Krakens achievement. Any idea why ?
there was one bug report of this back in march
someone else in june mentioned it was bugged
but then someone in september got it when he placed down a kraken first 
the spaghetti is real atm
Thank you very much !
does nobi count for BB 100k and 1mil kills?>
All kills count for 2x more kills for opening portals and accumulating Deathnote kills.

Keep playing it and learn how to cheese your serves
#endgame-chat-w7๐ message
This is a 60k poing score you can look at. Definitely helps to do those side serves Pale mentioned
does this mean what i think it does
Anyone else got issues afking at c9 mushrooms?
Don't tell me there is also sorting for notes 
Kill the first boss then it should work
i dunno i'm asking
are there more improvement methods after the 6th one or should i stop trying to improve the bell now that i have the 6th?
are folks stopping at 2k monument hours? or 750? thank you
not stopping till 25k
wowza
ill be stopping monument hours whenever i unlock cavern 9
whenever i unlock that cavern im switching everyone to statue grinding
I think it depends on where youโre at in the game. I got to w5 2 days before hole and havenโt really afked there at all. Will do 750 hours once I first unlock the goat god and then lab divinity.
for sure thank you
Also I will leave my bubo in lab and my main pusher to unlock 6.
^^
Id say once you unlock the five rethrows in monument, lab and divinity grind should come after as opposed to trying to increase sword damage. Mainly unlocking tranqi on everyone first imo
Why does 7th mutation gotta be like this....
no
8th even worse
spam 0.1% instead of saving dna
i accidently clicked the dmg amplifier for the hound minigame in the hole
is there away to get rid of it?
click and hold for 5 seconds~
awesome thanks
I killed like 6?
Idk afking should be fine after youโve killed the first one
It worked for a while, it says im killing em when ii see my characters, but when i claim it says x hours of nuffin
its mobile issues
I don't get it, if my math is right this is net less than just tuning every string to C
Level bonus:
ah so just another passive to level
should be I'm unlocking it later
When you click on the buckets in the well, is the fill rate per bucket or total for all buckets?
per bucket
tyty
which classes benefit the most from the post office cooldown reduction?
Personally felt like bubo got the most out of it to reduce his CC downtime
Also liked it for DK to get that one knight up more often
Trying to get my Vman and on the Slayer quest but it wont update? I counted some 48m+ kills
Wtf does the E note even do again?
go to DN and scroll through pages
Took me long time to get last one
I've tried it a few times
also tried exist W3 and go back in
look at the passive
if you've finished all 40, you can try cloud saving and restarting the game
or is it a case of not being able to count?
wood mushroom and bloodbone 
you are missing 2...
Ahh alright I just cant count then
w4 and w5 do not matter
Ohhhh it does not count W4 and 5?!
also get you mman on gmush, you'll need 12mil kill alone on him if you didn't start already
sadly yeah, only w1 to w3
I think I'm just stupid, I see no passive
turn on adjust strings, click E one time - read info window for any given string note
Ohhhh, didn't even know I could do that lol
I was just wingin it
DK or ES for grotto?
SB
SB oh okay
is bubo the slowest to level up? for some reason for every class they level up quite quickly but for for bubo his just not leveling as fast like 1/4 of what i would get from a sb or a es
bubo active farming is faster i think
can i ask why is SB better?
Yes out of the active classes itโs the slowest until you get father along with 200+talents.
Other respawn mechanics donโt work there
both DK and ES respawn don't work on them. Bubo technically does, but not enough mobs to upkeep it
okay thanks for the info!
ah alright thx.
was wondering why it took 15 mins to level up from 184 to 185 when bb and es took 2 mins per level at 239 and 382
Do these bonuses reset daily?
No, you keep them permanently.
u keep the bonuses but attempts are daily if u fail u lose them
oh damn
Yeah portal mobs and plunders mobs each have a xp multiplier that really speed it up compared to some others.
ok I just lost rip oh well
thx guys
what cards should i use for farming grotto with SB?
you want afk and DR in order to maximize your change to roll the statue. then upon a successul roll, you want multikill % to boost how many you get
What the 2000 hrs bonus do?
it's nice on DK but I was thinking that it helps a lot to get to 100% pirate flag uptime on SB
oh look I'm yellow now
you've hit the expand cap, you'll need another engi schematic
ah. ty
For the lamp, are there only 4 wishes total? Last wish is progress time?
9 wishes atm
retelling - and if you want to know what it does: #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
Do we know what the other wishes are yet? Guide is only up till progress time
toolbox lists them all
Ah nice ok thanks
there is a site that helps to see the time / xp per hour of the hole?
toolbox has most things, not sure what you want specifically
Is es best for farming mob cards??
i think yeah he mostly the one you farm mob mats with, so mob card come with it as well
Reckon I should focus dr cards first or card drop chance
Itโs been 10 mins and Iโve got 500 giga frog cards
card drop chance -> total drop rate
then maybe crystal spawn chance for when you crystal farm
do u have the link ?
!it
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thx
How good is gaming snail bonus? can anyone show me a ss of how much it boosts?
Power of 2 per level.
Who's the fastest active death note killer?
Bubo
i never actually read the changelog, when was it made so feathers are upgraded really quickly?
just this update
damn, alright
maybe ill actually go for some more fractals
since i was too lazy i would just check in on them every now and then
Wtf happened to my library
Anyone know what I should be doing here? am I supposed to be only picking the lower evolved ones ?
I usually pick mushrooms at evo4, sprouts at any evo, and the other sprouts at evo3+, and leave chems till at least evo 4 ideally evo 5
But that's probably very inefficient
the hole is pushing my warriors to a higher mining lvl than my maestro, should i care?
yeah im kinda clueless about this skill
Yes stop mining with your warriors and go level the maestro
Fuck it harvest all
ok ill set them to bravery for now w/ the rest
if my game crashes on mobile during Bravery Monument, does it automatically run away or do I just lose the story of the day?
probably just lose it 
Hey I just unlocked w5 a while ago and got everyone running divinity
At like what point should I stop
And when I take them off of divinity what should they be doing
you can start pushing with one when you unlock nobisect, he give x2 kill count
he's the 3rd
probably when you unlock tranqi but usually do other things
Oh nice I got him alr
you take them off div when you unlock goat god, and back to lab with goat equiped, goat : when in lab it count as in div as well
Ohk I heard ppl telling me to get mantra
wait why would you stop when you get the style that needs most of your characters to be on divinity?
So I should still leave some ppl in the altar while I have DK push or smth with the bug
tranqui is real far 
I forgot what lvl you need for tranqi
40
yes basically push with DK or ES
I mean you could black pearl to get near 40 wait you cant bp to 30?
I got 8 characters rn so should I use all characters for altar? Minus maestro and dk
What's that
if you want to afk even more somewhere else, in the hole you can unlock the pocket divinity to link a god to all you char
why minus maestro? all in div jail but pusher 
Which cavern is that
Coz my maestro's new right shouldn't I focus on other skills rn?
And when I unlock mantra I'll prob put him on the altar then
When it's faster
Welcome in
check out the 3rd ๐ for a bunch of W5 intro stuff, including a Div guide. You'll want to take a quick detour to get Hole started and unlock Cavern 5 to unlock the Conjuror and get access to Pocket Divinity
5
My vman never sat on the altar at all I levelled him solely through mantra > tranqi, but that's because I wanted to focus on skills
Ok thanks
dont remind me that I need doot 
Btw what should I be putting opals into
just get doot of wish (pocket div) 
Yea thats what I was thinking
You don't have vman though you should definitely go and get vman before you do anything else
literally omniphau unless you need goat
something like engineer > explorer > conjuror (one who give pocket div)
And at this stage in the game it's weird that you don't have all 10 charas
I'll grind kills once I'm a bit further into w5
Nah just unlocked w5
tho sometimes it depends on what you need
I had 10 charas and vman before I entered w5
dont you usually do 2 explorer 1 on engi and conj until measurer and idk past that
Since when
10 char with all 9 is average lvl of 167, but lower if you finish w5 and have a lvl 300 DK or ES
idk honestly x)
Oh ya what gear should I aim for
I think after maybe 1.5 months of playing? I only started earlier this year
Ic maybe they hadn't changed the characte level unlock cost at that point
1 set of chizor rest go troll armour
Yeah, the level changes lava made have most people coming into W5 on 8 characters now
i entered w5 with 9 
!gear
mid 5, with 8 char
No I played it when the level costs was already increased
yes, okay, i said most
Is void armor worth my time
u need void to craft chizor
at least helmet and chest as chiz armor they give %total dmg
Ohk
Wait actually no now that I search my memory I actually entered w5 with 9 charas and candied in suggmas to get my 10th
Oh alr
suggma nu-

troll doesn't seem to be for him at his point in time
well i pushed through to w6 in amarock so anything goes
How many w3 merit points will I need for chizoar tho
2 per piece, 8 if u want chizor scarf
6 for whole set
Boots and legs are first in order yea?
u need 6 to unlock helm anyways
Ohk
if โ
when โ
you get chiz scarf
just get the whole set, u need to collect 1 of every piece anyways for the thingy in w5 that buffs dmg sailing and something else for every item collected
So the only gear I'll rly need is chizoar + void weapons?
if your f2p ye
Alr ๐
not even need but chiz does help. damage comes from a lot of sources
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
if not, if you have phoenix wings and the coat thingy are stupidly busted stats and dmg bonuses
When is that attainable
those are paid items.
Ohk
need money.
isnt it a 30 dollar deal
Personally i bought it because i have a job but dont buy it if you cant afford it. After all if your spending money your spending it on some pixels on the screen.
its 20 usd each of the pack i mentioned for the items
@fickle lake but bigger numbers ๐ฆ
still for some gems, a item, and some pet gems having the same cost of good Indie games is crazy
yeah but you're supporting a sole dev of a small game
brother has so much support with recent shops 

Yeah im just saying, dont be like me, actually put aside some money for surgery and see what you have leftover then spend if your financially stable.
sacred arts having a (then) brand new stamp lvls its starting to be more cash grab and cash grab
I bought out most of the packs alr just waiting on season packs to come around. Total spent atm is :600 sgd
that exchange rate 
man if only surgery wasnt expensive i wouldnt need to use 30k sgd for treatment and can spend 10k in idleon 
and the now new Ancient Echoes having a new set of items as robes that have a 2x multi
im working on those 20 rn
need 5 more ๐ค
how should I have more droprate for the strung tooth or cape since I WANT THE SCARF 
around what level should i stop lab(divinity) jail. I rushed to w6 from w3
When u get articus and just throw your bubo in jail forever
if you have your veeman just do monster mats for anvil that what i did
im doing w1 to w3 logs, first 2 fish/bug, ore till void then proly alien log as its the closest to gstack
You first real break will be 40 div/75 lab (keep one person on for div 50 to unlock multitool stamp at w5 lampars)
lvl 40 on divinity is freedom from divinity until you actually want new gods
i have the goat god working on elephant
you have veeman ?
if your willing, link everybody to articus have bubo in prison with exp share to lowest lab level and use the hole for other god links
nope, working on it tho
might do gold fish after i get my 13th million kill on my bb
trying to buff up that cooking speed

when you get him those mob mats will go burr in the printer
just get all meal to 11 and cook then meal cooking speed
thats the thing, im struggling to get cheese to 11
fr thats what I need the most as well
rn i have the hole with the rabit and goat with everyone in lab
atp just get a 100% chance
lost 50% once never again went 50
gamble for doot and only doot every week ( trust )
i cant, ive been spamming the low offerings and its offing me instead of accepting my offer
i keep most my peep personal link to artis cause the lab bonus are too good ( i have all my bonus light up) working on the lab jewels now
very sad i got goat on a 5 percent
a friend just hit w5 and unlocked a 3rd boat in sailing - but now A1 isn't even showing up on his map lol
tried cloud save and re-entering map, is there a bug of some kind?
@bleak gazelle had bad storms last night and early this morning I lost power until 7am this morning
could just be matched perfectly behind another ship
if you go to the Crew tab, select the captain that's in that boat and hit trash to force return it to the dock
(this won't delete the captain)
yes that can happen when all your boat depart at the same time (like when your chest are full and they are stuck in the town)
This was it, was totally missing and not going anywhere but thank you!

anyone know whats the cooldown of bravery , should i allways use it when its 1X or i should save it until a point?
20 hours. ideally use it asap to maximize opal gain
the multi will scale up to 2.4x (48hr) and then start to hit diminishing returns, but that multi doesn't affect opal gain which you should be trying to maximize at this point
you peeps know how to stop your dk from moving when your using auto fight?
reason is he can just clear the map with the boomerang
well dang
I second that, I got a warning from the bot when I said the S word
the word is se||l||
My god finished resampling. Arctic+Harriet op.
What about base oak logs?
Next page
If I lose in the story fight is it only the bonuses that had been collected that run or is all bonuses that is lost?
It is complete
Fuck up
FYI Harriep dosent give extra samples
Shhh it does trust
Must let them believe 
Yeah just 6x. I used snech or some thing that gives 30% afk.
should i use the cat stone in gaming, i dont have the chemical plant yet
Love this game
Btw does goat additional link stacks?
where goat? 
faster plants = more clicks = more chances to roll for chem
dose leveling the stone do anything?
faster speed
ohh
Ah good your here I need your help 
How do I get faster character speed
greenstack speed statues 
Do u need to be active at the well to produce?
Mines lvl 114
Produce what?
Oh the minerals no you don't
You only need to do the statue
well is always active, regardless of where you are.
but expansions will only continuously occur if you're online
Gravel
Idk why it says i make 1k/h
And let it overnight to make some and it only made 1k overall
my gaming tab says 23mins to grow new sprouts is that all the sprouts or just 1 sprout in 23 min
is you bar expander on ? or did your bar expand over night maybe
This boi minor link.
It is
But to be truly honest idk what it does
Does it expand when is full?
yes
And takes all the minerals? Or how does it work
it expands and take half of the current resources
Oooh
Well that makes sense I guess
always keep expand on because you need alot of ore for the upgrades
man why didn't you answer
Is easier to "make fun" of ppl than actually help someone
Eh making fun also does help on occasions 
literally reading through a bunch of shit to try and help 
True xd
HEY CHECK W3-W4 CHAT I PINGED YOU
You need to read 
yeah wtf do you want? tell him to git gud
He needed to know if he could or not 
you literally just pinged me in a reply with no context 
i mean he can, the question is how fast does he want it
rift 55 mobs have 264T hp and his max sheet damage is, what, 300b?
so he's got a lot of work to do on damage. him afking at rift now is like throwing BB in the kitchen at the start of w4
Alright thank you that's all I needed
Good job man 
Isn't card drop rate multiplicative with drop rate? Or is it additive to each other?
help plox
I believe you can spawn 1 new plant per cycle and also every active plant has a chance to evolve
so 1 sprout in 23mins?
however if you have w6 farming and the gaming evo unlocked from jade emporium, that speed bonus doesn't show up on the Fertilizer tab, so it should be faster
seems like i don't have that bonus sadly
Hey ace, how do I play idleon
don't read 
Me: I need to fix my farming
Also me:
read?! whats that
what are all the sources for time candy excluding, bosses, mini bosses, quests, achievements, afk gains with constellation, giants and gem shop?
on the top of my head, there's mman 'its your birthday' talent that i can think of as well
and how do you get that? is it the 30+ hrs?
sorry, i feel like someone asked this a few days ago and I missed the answer. there's some interaction with them, so I assume it's multi somehow. you can also snapshot card dr (cards, starsigns, and obols) if you plan to stay on a map for a while
that yeah
ah vman, ye alr used up for tdy

i suppose guild gift boxes as well but man does my guild not have points in guild boxes
killroy, but that's kind of a mid-tier reward
alr used up for refinery 
oh, level up gift bubble can drop them
at least 1h
maybe it can drop all types 
basketball, too
What seeds to keep growing for 2nd night market unlocked?
Is the gaming bonus from the Hole noticeable at higher levels (red bits), or is it negligible like the squirrel or the conch?
on the gaming evolution page, is there a calculator to tell you how exactly the... 19% triggers? or whatever? does it go down after you get evolutions?
@bleak gazelle is 0.01 claims the best for unlocking the checmical plant in gaming
ok tyvm and gn peep, happy idling
the chance to research mutations? that resets to 0 after rolling for it
if you're talking about the bottom part of that page, that's basically just more speed
all gaming evo is just speed, basically
more speed means faster plants, but it also eventually means guaranteed starting tiers and faster evolutions guaranteed when popping a chem
ah, nevermind on that, found the calculator for evo chance.
seems like I should be ignoring T5 for definite, that's why I was confused. I'm clear that the biggest earners are mushroom and berry bush, which is fair. wasn't entirely sure if I should've had the evergreen and chemicals yet, I think yes, but I haven't gotten lucky
Most t5s you'll eventually get through normal gaming progression and t6s will come as you hit 5s gaming and live there for a while or can clear them up at instant speeds
the only ones you'll need to sit and work on will be t7/8
yeah, it's probably alchemy holding me up again
nah, farming
nah, farming might be able to help, but I straight up haven't been doing alchemy, so definitely need to get some of the basic gaming speed stuff done
...nevermind, I'm wrong. lol
Gaming evo chance from crop depot is effectively gaming speed so
now have 20-20-10-20 on my chars in hole can i throw all opals on explorer until i unlock 9th cave then i can reset and throw everything on measurer then engi then conjurer?
What the level last level for engineer schematics Iโm at 10 and I canโt find the next level schematics if there is any at the moment
Check IT
endgame talk chat, get the role in https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/802261539142762517 with 
I can go to endgame talk channel
Oh got it
Thanks I just pressed that looking around
Whew just unlocked all orange bubbles. That's 2/4 colors done
Do you all still do CC after unlocking bubbles for liquid or anything?
gotta need liquid to level these bubble so I think they do still ye
Yea, itโs a necessity to get liquid for bubbles bc of how higher cost scales
Wtf I always through you were like super endgame
Damage numbers running off the screen kinda endgame
No I'm only lvl400+ with div gear 
How did you get div gear before getting all bubbles
how can you zow/chow equinox valley or mummy memorial?
Div gear is just w5 though, none of the w6 bubbles really matter
Mummy memorial is the hidden gmush in doots room
Equinox you cant 2 min afk anymore, so you need to stand on the top right platform and just throw your axe constantly
Ah, this one! I didn't know it counts. what about equinox valley?
90k nullo is definitely not something people get done in w5
You cant use auto though, so its a very slow and painful grind
Only my ES and BB have div gear 
And the w6 bubbles don't affect your nullo salt gain in any way
Oh yeah. I forgot itโs not normal wait until you can simultaneously make 10 sets lol
Gosh dang it took long enough(I have golden cake recipe)
๐ฎ I had no idea. I don't know what I am killing but it works. thanks
Ayyy we both got a recipe today๐ yours is better though
Which one did you get zero
Part of the recipes name is in this sentence
I will now proceed to domeo magnus with my improved dr of 0.04x
That's not a bad one tbh
Lmao big gains
While its early, i would do 1 kill and cloudsave to let IT update
Yeah but that means I need to do the quest
So you can see what each kill gives and work out how many you need
I did it once and lost the stopwatch
Back when I'm w2 iirc
I was doing blunder hero speedrun any%(sarcasm)
I donโt have a single trophy except for lucky lad and the vman one
I have 1 for every character which is not a duplicate
Iโm too lazy for that
I mean it's not that hard
I hate doing quests
Oh wait I also have the trapping trophy too
Bro forgot๐
Once my dk finishes murdering 25k crystal custards I'll get my 11th non duplicate trophy
Iโm too busy ccโing
U get dice dynamo by ccing my brother
Wouldnโt that slow it down
It takes like 0.1 second to proc put it on page 3
Let's go gambling
Alright I put it on his talent bar
Anyone know how to get lithium to pick up new bubbles? I finally upgraded power thrithree but it doesn't pick up later bubbles even though they're leveled >20
Iirc its a lab jewel
I have the pyrite rhimestone, is there another one that has anything to do with nblb?
No I just have bad memory thinking the jewel helps
Brb ill help you search wiki
My lithium is lvl 10 if it has anything to do with it
Yeah it's the atom collider, level one makes it work on all bubbles
It picks up bubbles that are lowest levelled and leveled up at least once
So how do I kickstart it to take more bubbles? It still goes for the higher ones, power thrithree was blocking it
It only takes up to 10 bubbles per day iirc so
I've kept track of it for a few days since I did, and it still goes for the higher leveled ones when it hits
Idk the math behind nblb can you show me the it page?
not so sure but i think its because it doesnt affect w6 bubble
Trithree is a w5 bubble
oh right my bad
Ah, so it doesn't affect w6 bubbles?
i just realise the lithium also only picks 3 lowest from each colour
oh
so that might be the problem
Thanks for the help, I need to find a good way to level my w6 bubbles then
Good to know I also wasn't crazy ;P
i don't know why only warriors afk drop dragon statues
luck issue
Skill
shrimp
Your multikill is wack
Therefor you have to afk longer
Some endgamer can claim every 2h iirc, but they also have like 47k multikill
If you want to sweat and gamba, you can also technically claim every 2 min
is there no guide to gaming? Im hard stuck on 1Q and idk how to progress gaming more.
What sort of guide do you need..? You click everything and thats it
how to get green bits
green is just lots of white
they change color once you reach 1,000,000,000,000,000,000(1QQ) for that tier
how much?
i just unlocked omni.. do i go for purrmep? or should i now focus xp
just unlocked arctis from 1%
(after triple 50%)
do I keep my chars jailed in divinity still or what now
What level div?
you put everyone on bear and maybe active 1
everyone still div until goat :
aight
div jail is a long time, be patient ๐
30-32 on most and 38 on main es
ive been using vitalic on es to boost level and get points
but is purrmep doable with just one es getting points
ig but its super slow
I'd be using focus to unlock purrmep, then vitalic on all to get to 40
or should i wait till tranqi then wait again until lv 80 then start getting purrmep?
boowomp
should I increase line length for these two?
depends if you wanna go for 80 div... are you in w6?
yea
not yet
reached w5 two days ago
once i get lv 40 i was probably taking goat off and just using tranqi for levels
Id get tranqi and focus on other stuff tbh - can always do div later
i just got omni which i think is the more important one
important if dooted
well with pd now its kinda important as well
cuz who wouldnt like free refinery
im not dooted
i said with pd its kinda as well
right sorry idleon players cant read
Sorry wasn't directed at you.
Just do all div except for 1 if you really wanna push/do something else, but all chars go into div until goat and then go into lab lol
I'd recommend getting hole to at least 1 pocket div slot aswell
my lowest multikill is at 24000%
7 minutes left till stage 2 of bs is over
Hey, what x does the forge cap upgrade in hole reach on lvl 1 enhancement?
3x, then multiply by 3x each enhance
Does mantra works on Character's not using goat or in divinity?
Ty!
1 exp for every char, but atp you would rather go all out on tranqi
Not unlocked yet. Highest lvl are 16.
I only have 60 opals should I reset and focus on explorer to push thru C9?
how many daily wishes?
1 ish
Is this a good idea? I am planning to only use 7 characters on lab jail w/ goat (mantra) to lvl. And have my Es for active Vman death note kills, maestro for 12m gmush kill and BB for cooking.
whouldent reccomend he will get 9 way before you can reset again
daily ladles? why 12M gmush kills? and ES for deathnote? you trying to unlock vman or?
to reset opals when you can but 1wish a day is too little
Yeah.
I havent unlock the notes yet
aint it only 3M gmush kills? and daily ladles on bb
working towards it. Dunno what to do ๐ .
how are you on 60 opals then?
my brothers we are 28% there๐ฃ๏ธ ๐ฃ๏ธ ๐ฃ๏ธ
what quest dat=
was talking about the measurrmrnt to improve more daily wishes. my bad
final royam worm quest
how do you only have 60 opals
for the cape or hat i dpmt remmeber and is it any crystal kills?
Ill list down where I get my opals from
100 ntroll kills, not rng dependent but one of the most stupid quests behind yondergreen
fuck that asshole tree
yeah dumbass w3 quests are painful
Me with 43 
7 - from well
19 - motherlode
10 - from den
6 - bravery
5 - from bell
4 - from harp
2 - from lamp
9 - from hive
so where should I get more opals from?
Wow how high is ur dmg to get 10 from den?
I think 12m
do deathnite kills on BB way easier early on with candies , mushykills need to be on mman? i dont remmeber if not do them on BB too and dont cook with BB until at minimum 500daily ladles pref 1k or more
Bankrupt of candies ๐ used a lot when pushing stages and crap ton on maestro skilling.
Ohh I can only do 100/day for ladles.
sorry, I dont remember hahaha
Imma make bb afk kill quest on rift then.
It was so good. Got 3 ancient artifacts. Specially the op divinity gain artifact thanks to it I've unlocked goat fast.
Thats super good
I still dont have an ancient artifact
Hiw much more rare are they?
Don't really know. But its rare and thanks to someone suggesting not using SB chest evolve talent it increase the odds getting one. Quantity over quality.
i have 54 ๐
how much opals should I invest into explorer?
all of them?
currently it's 2 for explorer and 1 for engieneer cuz no other people unlocked
and I have 4 more opals
you should have a ratio of 2:1 for the start
Keep in mind that you wanna eventually invest in multiples of 10 so dont go to for example 14 on explorer
||yea , thats after you get the 3rd villager named the conjurer||
You definitely wanna get the 1st, 2nd and 4th villagers to 10 asap before you consider further investment
Youll see when you get there
Tbf you get there fast enough
yea i got there in like 2-3 days i think
Is there a place that shows all the of the conjuror bonuses?
Hello when my bell bonuses are golden it is capped I need to reset bell? Or what does reset bell do other than reset bonuses I've read guide couple times why I am where I am but miss stuff I guess
gold just means they're leveled up more than a little
there are engineering bonuses that give you a chance to get multiple bell levels per ring, that's when it pays to reset and re-ring
until then not really much of a point
we are 41.2% done๐ฃ๏ธ
Tell me about it.
skibidi toilet
why are you guys going this anyways
just
grind a set of godshard
ull get more dr than spending countless candies on cards
Gotta squeeze out all the DR I can get.
Bc I'm not farming crystals rn. I'm farming cards.
yo theres a ll on the floor lmao
anybody understands how tf works the drop rate for statues?
this makes absolutely no sense
its first drop, affected by mk
yea even if this is affected by mk
Out of the ashes of an abortion, a new pet is born.
it makes no sense to get 0 after 5M kills
brother that 5m is after mk
I know how rare drops work man. but still it makes no sense to get 0 statues after 5M when I've gotten statues after 20 minutes claims
just have a look a the SS
u just rolled it, or didnt, no in between
but that makes no sense, that's not how drops works. after some amount of real kills, DR and afk gains you have guaranted drops.
ask lava idk
SCOLI MY SAVIOUR MY GOAT
Godshard is temporary, cards are eternal
Might be a dumb question but how to I actually get the notes at the harp I haven't gotten a single one?
U need to swipe over the strings
players need to read fr
Thanks, holy Bobjoepickle I feel stupid
Now you get to feel smart, for you have obtained the secret knowledge
Separating you fron the unknowing masses
Still treading in the darkness
Btw has anyone reached cavern 10/ the Justice already?
right, so on the long afks that you didn't get statues, you didn't afk long enough to guarantee nor did you hit rng like on your shorter claims
damn
is this one better?
IT will only compare like categories though
i'd prio loot > everything else
remember rare/arti chance only affect chests brought back by that captain
sailing ui is so bad it makes me wanna kms
Assuming you have the gods to link the lab with divinity is it better to stick everyone in the lab instead of just on the alter?
yes, no reason not to get 2 for 1
just make sure you set their style right before moving them
we are 50.872% done boys๐ฃ๏ธ
arti chance > rare chest ?
ehh, they're both kind of a wash, up to you
i dont think i need loot anymore
loot is best base stat as it always has value
!gear
is it increase chance of artifact ?
Artifact chance and rare chest only affects that captain's loot and it can whiff - making it so your captain is essentially naked
Contrast, loot always has value since you will always get more treasures > more ability to upgrade boats / do gold trades




