lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[turbid plaza]

Endless summoning tomorrow?

[fallow aurora]

probably

[turbid plaza]

I wonder how beneficial it will be to people who haven’t finished summoning

It probably won’t have as good of bonuses as regular summoning unless enemy hp and damage scale really hard

[keen spire]

Ok I feel stupid. If something is 0/100 in the well that means I am unable to mine it correct?

[bleak gazelle]

bar fills up, so it's stating that you don't own any of that material

[gleaming summit]

I got no kraken but

This guy's been here since round 0

[peak verge]

Maybe it's endless like pet arena, starting from baby units and scaling towards the most cracked ones, in which case we can make use of the "bonus based on your longest time in endless" upgrades.

[turbid plaza]

Oh that would be pretty cool

[strong shale]

Thats prob how its gonna go

Unless it just keeps going on after each round

Like round 1 u get x bonus then round 2 y bonus etc etx

[stuck river]

thats like normal summoning but endless then

according to this cheevo it should be a timer endless

[proven silo]

Hi, i want to ask. I recently got into world 5 a week ago and currently focusing on divinity. My characters all mostly lvl 10 divinity and have 4 gods unlock. Should i focusing open the goat one or grind my character level first for char slot unlock? I rushed to w5 from w4 because of the hole update, so my other characters are under leveled, only have 8 character slots unlocked with 1050 total levels

[bleak gazelle]

all sound like good options can always rotate people out to gain levels

[stuck river]

imo dont rush divinity yet nobi is enough

[proven silo]

Oh ok then, i will try focus leveling my other character. Thanks for the help

[stuck river]

also forgot to tell current meta should be rushing to w6 asap then backtracking, whats your pusher looking like rn?

[proven silo]

Dk level 195, currently at volcano thermometer map, dont have problem with dmg and survivability

[stuck river]

read the second pin for information about w5 boss ;)

wait it became the third

[proven silo]

What is ~35m number on dk mean

Dmg?

[stuck river]

35m max sheet damage, also you have image perms now so feel free to send stat page

[proven silo]

Oh gawd i only have 3m dmg on my dk status

[proven silo]

Oh ok wait

[stuck river]

any es?

[carmine frigate]

how does bravery story reward multiplier work

[stuck river]

also thats some sad gear

[proven silo]

Yeah i am rushed

[bleak gazelle]

it stacks linearly over time up to 2.4x (48 hours worth) then hits diminishing return. recommendation is to just run it asap unless you're close to an unlock

[proven silo]

Already have void legging and shoes mat ready, will craft it after i back from work

[stuck river]

i see k

acecow iyo is es better for w5

[bleak gazelle]

damage is slightly easier to get, but squishier. and especially with the recent mana changes, idk how rough it is

[carmine frigate]

yep i agree

[stuck river]

right we had mana changes

[proven silo]

My es worst XD

[stuck river]

it already had 1m higher damage despite being 50 levels lower

[proven silo]

Yeah it impact my dk and hunter

Have to increase dk mana to 800+ for consistent active afk

[proven silo]

Yeah, i think es have many dmg multiplier skillset

[stuck river]

also decent aoe and lighting barrage

[proven silo]

Yeah that lightning skill, very ouchy

Low cd too

Soooooo shluld i use es to push instead?

[stuck river]

back when i pushed w5 i went up to moltis and switched to es

[proven silo]

After i unlock my 9th character then

[stuck river]

on dk*

[proven silo]

Ah ic

My es survivalability need a lot of work tho

[stuck river]

i still remember my es being level 89 when i started

[proven silo]

And not dying on first w5 map?

I tried on es and nopeee, back to meditate you go

[empty wharf]

Gold farming tips?

[proven silo]

Anyways thank for the guide @stuck river , going to resume my work and continue progressing after work

[bleak gazelle]

work on gmush kills, get harriep link on pocket div if you don't have doot, you'll push highest maps. cc/crystal farm on w5 wurms or cc at samurais/dk at minichiefs

[stuck river]

on gold do you mean the sailing gold or?

[bleak gazelle]

kek, didn't think of that

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle did you send me the cold weather?

[bleak gazelle]

wdym, i have it over here

it's all mine

https://tenor.com/view/yes-lawd-my-precious-gif-13073178

[pastel kayak]

Only about 20c here today @bleak gazelle

Meant to be like 30c normal is normal weather for this time of year

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, was about that here, too. bit of rain coming through

actually maybe only 16c today

[strong shale]

20c is so nice

-1c here @pastel kayak

[stable temple]

31c here

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale @bleak gazelle for my area

[stable temple]

I'm living in w5 yall living in w3

[strong shale]

What does that even mean

The screwing a watermelon

[dreamy merlin]

screwing a watermelon?

[strong shale]

Like hello?

[pastel kayak]

No idea the weather app I use is called wtf and I have it on g or pg rating

[bleak gazelle]

wtf

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle that app I use

[silver remnant]

Leave a character there to AFK and switch to another character. After 1 hour uninterrupted time, it unlocks the monument

[stuck river]

@solar drift meme

[karmic zealot]

what does it mean?

[eternal wasp]

Do afk for 1 hour there

[sage urchin]

afk for 1hr

[karmic zealot]

come back after 1 hour with a different character that i first got the message from

[karmic zealot]

oh thanks

[empty wharf]

Thank you. Btw what's gmush kills?

[karmic zealot]

exactly 1 hour?

[eternal wasp]

Yeah

[sage urchin]

could be more but not less

1hr 42mnt count as 1hr

[bleak gazelle]

w1 green mushrooms. there's a lab node that gives stacking money% based on how many kills you have

[rigid mango]

what is measurement bonuses ?

[zealous cobalt]

Hey I recently got to world 5 and have put all my characters on divinity what should I do after

[gilded sedge]

4th villager, very good to get this

[rigid mango]

ok thx

[bleak gazelle]

Few things to do, unlock 2nd and 3rd gods, get to 3rd map to unlock the Hole, get 8th or 9th character slots if you're close, push to w6

[zealous cobalt]

Ok thx

[bleak gazelle]

Also, welcome in make sure you check out the third 📌 for a bunch of other info too

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-gif-22899488

yes, welcome

[slim totem]

Does anyone know if the bear god arctus make the goat Goharut always active if i have both?

[nova lynx]

You must sacrifice someone to the div altar (via altar or tube w/ goat) for prog the only way to keep Bagur happy

[sand vine]

i was on stage 70-ish (my highest on 50) and i accidentally clicking the gate 😭 i wanna cry

[dry sluice]

where is the bonus that makes godshard reasonable.
Please I've been working for months and I don't have any.

[bleak gazelle]

2nd green bonus from conjuror in hole

requires 3rd blue unlock to enhance

[dry sluice]

Uhh

[bleak gazelle]

not sure if all 4 levels are needed unless you're trying to finish vials

[dry sluice]

Which one is green

[bleak gazelle]

2-3 is probably fine

conjuror is the 3rd villager you find, cavern 5

[dry sluice]

Om colorblind

[gilded sedge]

Idleon majik

[fallow aurora]

the one on the far right

[dry sluice]

Ok nice

[gilded sedge]

F2p hits hard I see

[bleak gazelle]

the 3rd unlock in the middle tree will give you the enhance ability

[fallow aurora]

i'm just lazy

[dry sluice]

L

[gilded sedge]

Typical

[fallow aurora]

farming world bosses so boring

[gilded sedge]

Hey respect lazy people

[dry sluice]

Also Johnathan, is that a SAM in your pfp?

lava changed the fucking requirements.
THE DAY AFTER I GOT 2/3 OF THE PARTY ONES FINISHED

[gilded sedge]

Btw what's ur bio even about? Half of it just seems like random letters and numbers to me

[dry sluice]

Personality codes, and then mental health things which explain why I'm so fucked up

[fallow aurora]

I asked my friend for a random pfp and he gave me this one, no idea what it is

[dry sluice]

Fair

[gilded sedge]

Ig I'll have to Google

[bleak gazelle]

is the t-9w1 part of meyers briggs too?

[dry sluice]

9w1 is the ennegram

The t is, though

[fallow aurora]

he said its a white dragon

[bleak gazelle]

ah right, i forget about ennegram. i should do that sometime

[dry sluice]

Oki doju

[stable temple]

Is it weird that idleon has no dragons at all

[gilded sedge]

Sometimes I feel like I live in a different world then yall ngl

[gilded sedge]

There is dragon statue

[dapper prism]

__New Amazing Villager XP Calculator __

Spreadsheet by @inland dagger (Sorry for the ping, again) in the Guide sheet under Villagers!

#1303761365273415700 message

https://i.imgur.com/3ARDTJ9.png

[stable temple]

Ok pretend that we went back in time 12 days and answer my question again

[bleak gazelle]

oh thanks trickz, i saw that

[fallow aurora]

does dragonic cauldron count?

[stable temple]

No

[gilded sedge]

Uh no cuz there are no mythical creatures at all I think

[dry sluice]

Uh

I think a flavor text mentions dragons

[stable temple]

Trolls are a mythical creature

[dry sluice]

As are golems

And living trees

[gilded sedge]

Ok maybe mystical creatures was better?

[dry sluice]

Probably

Where is the protractor guy? What's he do

[gilded sedge]

Good enough now I go sleep nice meeting you anagram guy

[dry sluice]

Yep

[gilded sedge]

Anagram girl sorry

[dry sluice]

Youre fine

[gilded sedge]

Well ig guy Is used universally regardless of gender in certain situations so I'm good

[stable temple]

Why isnt the game letting me buy a new choco chip this week?

it displays at the chip store but says sold out

[stable temple]

Why though

Is it a bug or a feature

[bleak gazelle]

everything in this game is a "feature"

i think it's because it sees the same chip still being in the shop, so it doesn't register that it's a new one, so it just stays sold out

now thankfully, that means you should have purchased the one from last week, so you do have at least one choco and more is just QoL. There'll be another one in January you can grab though

[turbid plaza]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[vocal ibex]

Real quick for bucket I have to be online any map and It will upgrade the bucket automatically ?

[turbid plaza]

As long as the expander is toggled on, yes

[covert axle]

What is bravery reward multi based on?

[turbid plaza]

I don’t know if there’s other bonuses, but the first bonus in hole magik provides monument multiplier

[covert axle]

But it goes to 0 after doing a story run, is it daily reset based or afk hours on bravery?

[bleak gazelle]

if you want constant upgrades, yes. if you are offline and fill your bar, then once you login you will get a single expansion

[tidal cedar]

Do I need to unlock this drop in any way? or it should drop after going through to world 4?

[bleak gazelle]

It's just time based, it stacks linearly over time up to 2.4x (48 hours worth) then hits diminishing return. recommendation is to just run it asap unless you're close to an unlock

[bleak gazelle]

you'll have to get that drop if you want the w2-4 splicers

[tidal cedar]

Thanks, I''ll keep farming

[bleak gazelle]

are you not in w4 yet?

[tidal cedar]

Ya, I'm in world 5

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably just ignore it unless you're actively trying to progress breeding. even then, maybe wait till you're in w6

[tidal cedar]

ah okay, thanks!

[red fern]

Does Goharut + Arctis mean you gain full divinity benefits?

[ember ermine]

No

[red fern]

Darn. Ok, second question, can the polytheism skill be used to get purrmep? Whenever I adjust the skill points to end in 6, the skill description is wonky.

"God not allowed second link", but I don't have any others linked to it.

[ember ermine]

It only works if you're active on the ES

So you should avoid it

[paper sail]

Swap around- Main link with Purrmep, poly link with whatever you had as you main link previously

[red fern]

Good solution

[late copper]

did I mess up if I put conjuror points into village exp enhance per opal instead of getting... more harp strings? feel string starved

[dreamy merlin]

nah thats a very good thing to get

[ionic gust]

I did the contrary and I'm craving for those strings

[dreamy merlin]

but ngl the harp does feel really slow

[late copper]

ok thanks. maybe i'll just try to farm some gems via bosses to get strings faster

[ionic gust]

is really good to have the bonus xp, ngl

but as my Engineer needs the notes to keep up, I'm feeling a little bit behind

[cyan mantle]

What up

[dreamy merlin]

i finally got measurer guy

[cyan mantle]

Nice

[stable parrot]

Measurer is so goated

[dreamy merlin]

would be more goated if notes werent such a pain to get

[ionic gust]

THAT

[stable parrot]

There’s a good bit of note gain around, but it’s a slow start I will say, someone said earlier that G string is a massive boost so that gives me some hope

I wish my engi was faster

I need more string tones

[dreamy merlin]

faster engi wouldnt even help me

[stable parrot]

Or whatever they’re called

[dreamy merlin]

cant afford anything

[stable parrot]

What are you missing?

[dreamy merlin]

wdym

got no notes

[stable parrot]

Bell gives you good bit, and then the rest looks mostly like note level, for both C and D, you can get many extra strings through cosmo

E string gives speed as it’s lvling bonus which is nice so invest a bit into it for the speed

[dreamy merlin]

without gem bonuses its still slow

[stable parrot]

Farm some doot, hourglass, or kruk

[cyan mantle]

I no like this

Am I able to just afk here

[lime ember]

Yeah you can afk the motherlode

[cyan mantle]

Thank fuck

[lime ember]

just make sure to pick up the ore when you come back or it doesn't count

[cyan mantle]

Alright

[pastel kayak]

What one you missing? @cyan mantle

[cyan mantle]

Doot and Sandy pot

[turbid plaza]

I just want slug

[pastel kayak]

I have 2 of the slug

[turbid plaza]

Lucky

[cyan mantle]

I got 3 slugs

[turbid plaza]

Proof

3 slugs and no doot is crazy if true

[cyan mantle]

Fine I lied

I got 4 rams and 2 slugs

[turbid plaza]

Everyone else getting slugs except me😔

[cyan mantle]

Do you have doot?

[turbid plaza]

Yep

[cyan mantle]

Trade 2 slugs for doot

[turbid plaza]

Only 1 doot so no

2 slugs for an IOU of second doot

[cyan mantle]

You ain't ever getting another doot lil bro

[turbid plaza]

Ok but the poor sucker who would accept that deal doesn’t known that

[stuck river]

if only trading existed

hmmmm

[turbid plaza]

If only

[pastel kayak]

I have 2 slug 1 ram I think and ram was last one I got

[indigo hearth]

#💖future-content-blog message

Omfg this is awesome already

[nova crow]

After the first hour for bravery, can you log in occasionally?

[solar drift]

absolute cinema once again

glad i was sleeping

[undone wagon]

You always must afk full hours

Afking 1h and 59m will count as 1 hour

[teal brook]

if your on and see afew H + 1-8Minutes say just go in and claim bravery makes it easier to not log in and need to wait 40minutes to optimize claims

[nova crow]

Thats fine, I just meant you dont have to AFK 80 hours at once lmao

[undone wagon]

Yeah, no need to

[nova crow]

Oh well, I'm probably too early in the game to be doing it - need to prioritize div first

Only just got nobi so will be a little while

[warm holly]

Is it silly to try and push for 5th evolution on gaming plants while still kind of early (have the cat rock)

[undone wagon]

What is your time per evolve?

With the cat rock

[olive tide]

Is there a way to tell which captain is in which boat? I'm losing track of everything...

[undone wagon]

You can know, but it will be a bit compicated

[warm holly]

27 minutes I believe

[undone wagon]

Or just go to IE or IT

[undone wagon]

Thats too high

[olive tide]

I don't see it in IE. I'll check IT

[undone wagon]

Don't focus on these for now

[warm holly]

K thank you

[olive tide]

IT has exactly what I need. Thanks

[empty wharf]

What's the best combination of pocket divinity and active divinity.

Just wondering still at nobi.

[teal brook]

how much should i upgrade my E note before i focus on getting the improvent stacking schematic i heard that was crazy good

[stable temple]

Theres a few setups, some people say active bear some say pocket bear

I go pocket bear + rabbit, then i have different actives on my charas

[rough trail]

So hey are ALL monument bonuses lost if you get beaten or only the ones you earned during that run

[stable temple]

Only that run

[junior violet]

Does Arctis and Goharut work together if I have both link bonuses active

[teal lynx]

Not how you want it :P

Need to actually be in Lab to get Divinity progress

But Arctis + Goharut is still a great link for the extra talent levels, permanent lab + afk gains from Goharut

[junior violet]

Is minor links not always active?

[stable temple]

Minor link is always active yes

[teal lynx]

Being connected to Lab (goharut) vs being active in Lab (Arctis) is not the same thing

[junior violet]

Alright thanks

[fickle lake]

what does scaled skill efficiency on nobisectbuff? Is it just make it so stats buff that skill efficiency more?

[teal lynx]

You get more efficiency the lower your skill level is. It's so your newly made characters can quickly level -> I wouldn't worry too much about it and just take it as a nice bonus
It will also give your high level characters some efficiency at a lower rate. So it's still good to max

[fickle lake]

Ok thx, im still debating what to get for my 8th character, cause another sb would be great for catching prints but on the other hand another bubo will help my alchemy greatly, or another ES for active farming and throw the other one in divinity.

[teal lynx]

The meta before this patch was a second DK, ES, SB in that order in my opinion

Now that we have 3 God links with the hole I'm not sure how important ES vs Bubo is. A second Bubo might be nice early for some extra Lab gains and maybe Alchemy Bubbles, but that quickly gets lost
Es still gets higher Multikill per tier and more Souls

Might want to decide based on what the mage masterclass is gonna do

[fickle lake]

I have 2 DK and 2 BB so now im stuck on SB, Bubo and ES.

unless somehow, someway, BM just becomes the best class with master class

[teal lynx]

2 DK
2 BB
1 Vman
1 ES
1 Bubo
1 SB
0 BM ?
-> 8 chars

I thought you are debating on what to make your 8th char
My math ain't checking out. If you are still missing an elite class definitely get that

[nova crow]

how tf can i go back and do achievements like 2000 iron ore when i have 3m iron ore

[junior arrow]

split stack

[fresh notch]

You can split stacks to your inv and then manually put the item in an empty slot

[nova crow]

My bag holds 2k

[junior arrow]

then split what you can, and move it slowly

[peak verge]

Get a better bag.

Nah but fr, get a better bag, take all you can in inventory and drop it on the floor until you can leave 2k.

[nova crow]

Ok

[fickle lake]

2 DK, 2 BB, 1 Maestro, 1 ES, 1 Bubo, 1 SB, 1 BM, uh i have 9 im illiterate

tired from work brain not braining anymore

[teal brook]

best way to use kmy lamp wishes?

[toxic lintel]

Is anyone else getting black acreen and game crash when going to a char left in the caverns?

[undone wagon]

Make a spot in your storage and leave 2k there

[empty wharf]

Nice.

[nova crow]

Nice

[viral python]

whats the best way to increase dmg on bb?

struggling with last kruk boss quest and bb are lacking in dmg

[teal brook]

yes

[nova crow]

I wouldnt have pushed with BB 😄

Damage comes from everywhere tho... hard to specify something when we cant see your account

[teal brook]

which quest the one for the throphy or the one in merits to unlock recipies

[viral python]

merits i managed to do the bbs but im stuck on my vman doing 42b :/

and vman sucks at clearing on kruk

[teal brook]

alchmy and GL dont know how i did it myself

[solar drift]

If you didn’t do it yet

just split 2000 + 1000

And put it in a extra slots

[nova crow]

Holy moly haha

Thank you

[solar drift]

you needed 2k but same principle

i cant read, w5 chat is getting to me

[sage urchin]

is there any way to get 500+ orbs at mimics?

[nova crow]

Omg lol, I have 4 gods already at level 7 div... got nobi and harriep at 5% 😂

[teal brook]

yes like 600 or 700 can also be done

[sage urchin]

how?

[teal brook]

there is a spot where boomerang can kill all of the mimics so just stand there and throw it

can see if i find video on it 2sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsur_0aNeqw

[sage urchin]

thanks

[teal lynx]

With a higher talent level you can also stand here and hit everything. I have no idea when that is and how good it is, but I saw some late game players recommend this spot more

[junior dune]

It's significantly more convenient and gives a decent chunk higher orb numbers

[sage urchin]

do you think i should buy artifact find chance at killroy shop ? my boomerang is not big enough

[nova crow]

What does the maestro do and when should I focus on it? I have it at journeyman just now sat in Div. Should I active it for a bit or just complete Div/lab first?

[sage urchin]

i dont have sovereign fury yet

[junior dune]

No idea how good boomerang you need but you should try it imo. The positioning might just be more precise

[teal lynx]

I have not bought any artifact chance from Killroy so no idea how good it is 😅

[sage urchin]

so tuttle vials better ?

[teal lynx]

It's just a combination of everything, but Tuttle is definitely a significant boost. Same with the summoning reward -> That also means Pristine Charm, Merits, Achievements, etc that increase the rewards

[main sorrel]

how do you use the harp in the hole on w5?

[teal lynx]

Wait for 100% harp power -> Drag your mouse / finger across the strings that pop up at the top

[main sorrel]

thanks

[junior dune]

The biggest thing however is collecting like a thousand boats a day with the power of golden hampters

[main sorrel]

also, what's the point of renewing the bell?

[sage urchin]

how long do you think its takes to get sovereign fury with this chance ?

its showing 0.01% on purple chest

[junior dune]

There are schematics that gives you a chance to get plus 2 or 3 levels. If you renew after getting those you get bigger buffs

[junior dune]

No idea tbh

[obsidian ravine]

hello gamers, my bucket is currently holding 100 gravel only, how can i upgrade it to hold more?

[junior dune]

There's a schematic which expands the bar anytime it's full

[obsidian ravine]

ah yeah i got that, thought there would be another way too, thanks :)

[novel arrow]

Is there any w5 gem shop priority list?

[junior dune]

!review has a great gemshop tier list. Generally W5 doesn't have as much of a must buy as other worlds however. A lot of people recommend the sprinkler to unlock it early and the divinity sparkies make the div grind faster but you can also just wait that out

[obtuse orbit]

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[novel arrow]

I have 2k gems
I have 2 divinity sparkies...

Then should I buy something from the Hole?

[junior dune]

Double xp or conjurer points are both good

[novel arrow]

Ok

[empty wharf]

Big ass boomerang XD.

[ancient patrol]

Do you guys know how to increase movement speed without speed potion

[stuck river]

speed statues, although the majority of speed should be speed pots+feasty statues

agi stat givs movement speed as well

[ancient patrol]

Ok

[trail fable]

Just noticed I have 1337 slab items

[stuck river]

nice

well not nice but nice you get me

[lofty ginkgo]

anybody knows what this upgrade do??

[stuck river]

bruh

[thorn kindle]

Can arctis and goharut stack? I’ve put some toons in lab with goharut and set arctis as mini doot in the hole. Will I still get xp for the toons in lab?

[storm timber]

Does nobisect link bonus stack with killer brightside?

[stuck river]

no

[solar seal]

Goat + Bear don't specifically stack in that manner. Since you have the characters in lab, the Goat Major Link bonus will work. The only benefit you'll receive from Bear from that point is the +talent levels from its Minor Link bonus.

[solar seal]

#1303761365273415700 message - provides information for all the known schematics. that one provides 10% respawn

[stuck river]

oh wait i didnt read hol up

[thorn kindle]

Thanks, so toons physically in lab will still get xp and other toons will be in lab cause linked to arctis but no xp for them

[stuck river]

yeah what kaito said is correct

[solar seal]

Exactly

[stuck river]

correct

[solar seal]

i wasn't going to hit you with my copy/pasta since you actually seem to understand how each Goat and Bear function and how they might not overlap

[thorn kindle]

Thanks! Good to know that I can still keep my lab bonus and now and then put them in lab for the xp. Yeah got it but just not sure if I get the xp when physically in lab but glad they do

[solar seal]

Generally though, because the god links set by Pocket Divinity are account wide, you want to utilize links that can be fully effective on all 10 chars

So in your case, it may be preferable to utilize Bear as the real link for those you don't plan on keeping in lab - that way you can utilize the pocket divinity slot for something else

[novel arrow]

The statue in cavern 4...

It says, switch character, return to this after 1 hour...

I did it but still says same...

[solar seal]

Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.

Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).

[stuck river]

is it a full hour

[thorn kindle]

Got unlocked until goharut so for now I think for me it’s best this way. Just did prints with harriep in pocket div so got that covered for a few days.

Still a beginner account (after over 1 year 🤡)

[solar seal]

Move at your own pace - any progress is good progress

[thorn kindle]

Having fun is the most important part and steady but still growing day by day

[novel arrow]

I do the same thing too lol,

My acnt is 1.5 years old...
And still everything in a begginer state

[wary cape]

My villagers are leveled as followed: 8, 11, 12, 6.
Should I reset my opals and start focus leveling a certain one?

[solar seal]

Most folks are waiting until they are around ~100 total opals before converting to a single focus villager xp strategy. Since you have M6, you have access to the increased wish gen - which is also necessary. If you are at that opal count, you can start utilizing that strategy - if you wanted to

[wary cape]

only at like 61 opals...

sounds good...once I hit near 100, should I be focusing engineer or measure? because conj seems pretty useless to focus unless I want more outside of hole stats

[solar seal]

Yeah if you are only at 61, i would say its a little early.

(I won't go into too much detail re: this since I don't know if its bound to change soon/if at all) - but getting to c9 ASAP should actually be first priority, in case the AFK interaction changes with dragon statue farming

[wild osprey]

the odds of getting 2 of these from 5 boxes?

[distant bronze]

oh man, reset my game and got this

oof

[solar seal]

lottery level low

[wild osprey]

i mean its cool an all but i think i woudlve liked the candie/gems over a second one

[solar drift]

that mean you were doing fine

you have 7 more opal than you should

[storm timber]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[hushed quiver]

does anyone know the updates of the pit are worth it?

from the conjuror of bonusses

[storm timber]

!merit1

[obtuse orbit]

🛡️ Hemoglobin is a great way to increase survivability allowing you to push new maps faster. How much you need it will depend on factors like your equipment, progress in the W2 clicker and dungeon shop purchases. 3 points straight away with all 10 being bought by the start of W3 will probably be a good balance for most people.
1️⃣ The first 3 pieces of Amarok Gear are boots, pants and a chestplate giving decent defense and lots of upgrade slots making them great bang for your buck. A significant amount of people use this gear all the way to W4 or W5. Make sure to use the best upgrade stones you can. Recrafting Amarok Gear so you can apply better stones in the future is a good idea. The boxing gloves needed for task 3 can be crafted by reclaiming the crimson string from the quest list.
2️⃣ Bosses can give lots of great resources such as Amarok Slabs for armor and the Amarok Card giving skill afk gains. At max lvl you can expect to get two thirds of a kill extra for every key you use.
3️⃣ More respawn equals more kills and loot.
4️⃣ Your lowest leveled character isn't high priority. Can be a bit helpful but non-essential.
5️⃣ The last two Amarok recipes are a helmet requiring 5 rare Woodular Circles and a pendant requiring 25 Distilled Water and 4 Chaotic Amarok Slabs. They are about as good as the other pieces of equipment but at a much steeper price making it debatable if they are worth it at all.
6️⃣ You've gotten these bags before and can do so again while getting some extra rewards allowing you to spend your merit points on better upgrades.
⚔️ The star talents gives extra class xp or food effect. The former gives just +6.67% for 100 points but the latter can have a large effect on potions and skilling food. Put 1 point here when you start killing Baba Yaga. The other points are low priority since you can get good books without them.

[storm timber]

!merit4

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[solar seal]

i would've been fine if you only did it 1x. but if you are going to spam for all worlds please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/596275211872108544

[solar seal]

Yes the conjurer bonuses are very strong but you want to be economical with how you invest your opals. Check out https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700 for more info

[vapid geode]

There some other bonuses I should be looking to focus?

[solar seal]

BFR and villager xp obv top tier at start but as you accumulate more, their strength obviously declines.
the non-hole bonuses for skills: like gaming bits (if you haven't gotten final superbit but also for bell improvement method) and cooking speed (if you aren't at stage to let NMLB finish cooking for you) are also very popular options

[bleak gazelle]

mining eff as you get to higher levels is also gaining some traction in endgame...depending on who you speak to

[vapid geode]

Mmm been picking Mining Eff because of the rock layer thing.

I feel like I'm going to fall behind in cooking

[bleak gazelle]

i would focus on opals (not chance), bucket, and exp for now to help you progress in hole further to unlock some more bonuses. these will help you get to higher bravery runs so you get more/better bonuses

[vapid geode]

Make sense, there a special way to spend the opals?

[stray hull]

Is there a minimum claim for bravery? like does 30minutes actually give 30 minutes?

[vapid geode]

soo far I've been 10,6,1 with my opal spending

[bleak gazelle]

1 hour marks, no partial. so claim as close to 1hr+ as possible

[bleak gazelle]

good enough for now. i think trickz has some distribution guides in #1303761365273415700

[open mountain]

20h iirc

[stray hull]

uhhh what? that doesnt sound right at all otherwise why would it literally say " 1 hr bravery"

[solar seal]

jargon is referring to the story telling fight

[open mountain]

oh you mean like that? yeah 1h seems to be min claim

[stray hull]

ohhhh yea I just meant the afk claim is all, not the story

[stable temple]

What does

+1 string to harp do?

[stoic barn]

Adds another string to harp

[stable temple]

And what does adding another string to harp do?

[stoic barn]

Let's you get more xp for the letter you made it for

There's the hole guide that'll explain much better then me

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[stable temple]

Ah ok missed that one line that explained strings

[nova crow]

how does this work? I have the quest

[trail fable]

I think you need to dress in all gold

[jade fossil]

isnt this the wrong channel for this?

[nova crow]

ig... my bad - I just hang out here cause im currently in W5

[jade fossil]

...no maestro in w5?

[bleak gazelle]

Wiki's gotchu
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Quests/Yum_Yum_Desert

[paper sail]

Check the wiki 🤷 Should have details

[reef stirrup]

Hi folks! Most of my team is still lvl 150 w/ W2 gear, most were in Lab+Divinity training and already lvl 60+Lab/lvl 40 Divinity.

Is it a good moment to gear/lvl/push into W5 with them? If so, should I use the "Arctics" conjure from the cave (I'm doot-less) and "Snehebatu"?

My main pusher is lvl 360DK

[nova crow]

turns out I just had to relog

[jade fossil]

So Dementia

you're cooking

you're cooking on your lab+div

However, I see that YOU HYPER LEVELED YOUR DK

[bleak gazelle]

You could main link to arctis, then pocket link to snake/nobi
I would try and keep one person on Div till they hit 50, there's a nice stamp that unlocks there

[reef stirrup]

Thanks! I think I can push into Lustre if I farm a bit.

[jade fossil]

No

DO NOT CRAFT LUSTRE EXCEPT BOOTS FOR SKILLING BOOTS

[flint nova]

is this 40k a hour or 10k a hour

[solar seal]

that's for each bucket, so 40k if all are on same well resource

[jade fossil]

multitool stamp!!!

[flint nova]

oh ok thanks I was wondering

[reef stirrup]

Does the divinity conjure at the cave provide Minor Linked bonuses?

[jade fossil]

duh

[stuck river]

only major iirc, but dooter so

[jade fossil]

wait what im wrong?

Ah shit

[stuck river]

im dooted idrk

[bleak gazelle]

Lustre is fine if you already have the mats, I just wouldn't hard push to try and get it.
It also won't provide much extra benefit over void as survivability normally isn't the issue in W5, especially on a DK.

Ideally you'd go for Chizoar helmet/chest as they provide damage, but you don't need them to clear w5

[jade fossil]

true

[nova crow]

Got it as my 8th char, literally just as i entered w5 so i put it in div 🤷‍♂️

[jade fossil]

rn?

[nova crow]

Like 3 days ago?

[jade fossil]

then why did you not know of the gold quest?

[nova crow]

I'm sure you have a point but not sure what it is?

[jade fossil]

nah, its cool

[silver rover]

Does the well move slower when the games closed? I have 4 buckets each doing 13,791 an hour, my gravel was at 32.1k/65.7 and after 12 hours its only up to 45.1k/98.6k, when 12 hours should have netted something like 660k gravel, causing more expansions then just the 1 that happened.

[solar drift]

when you are offline

the bucket wont expand

expect 1 time

[silver rover]

ah thats rough

[solar drift]

dont want to be that dude, but if you are casual or semi ~ tryhard, start reading guide

will help saving your sanity and question 👍

• more efficient because other try out for you

[stray hull]

my issue has beeen with motherlode. doesnt seem to gain progress unless active playing at the motherlode

[silver rover]

I usually check things out this was just a weird specific issue i just noticed

[solar drift]

Ye it doesn’t say anywhere that you need to be active

[cyan kayak]

how does the E string multiplier works? Does it keeps increasing every hour or is it just basic base value multiplier? TY

[bleak gazelle]

just a flat multi afaik

[tribal kraken]

yo im lvl 356 on the world 5 boss and i need to know how i can get higher dmg my max dmg is 40.6m

[bleak gazelle]

what class are you on?

[tribal kraken]

beast master i know its bad i feel like i should have higher dmg tho

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[tribal kraken]

ik

[bleak gazelle]

BM is probably fine around the 40-60m range? We've only had one or two people come through and kill boss with it, so data is a bit lacking

[tribal kraken]

for the world five boss 40m-60m

[bleak gazelle]

40-60m being your top end of your character sheet damage range. probably closer to the 60m side

[tribal kraken]

k

[bleak gazelle]

i've got one person killing it at 72m, not sure how fast or slow it was though

[tribal kraken]

yeah the only issue is his healing

[bleak gazelle]

someone else had 85m

[tribal kraken]

k

got any card recommends

[bleak gazelle]

you can checkout Toolbox > Tools > Card Search and look for damage cards. There's also star signs that give damage and boss damage.

Some of these give crit/minimum damage/weapon power, so aren't as useful as straight damage

[fervent yew]

When afk and logging into that character, click the motherlode stone to open up the display and THEN pick up the Orr off the floor from your afk, works fine then

[tribal kraken]

k

ty

[stray hull]

ahh ok. that would explain why I thought it worked before but then wasnt, must have been claiming differently

[tribal kraken]

quick thing i havent beat the boss yet tho

wait do partys work for bosses?

[bleak gazelle]

you shouldn't need to check the motherlode stone to have claims work. but who knows 🍝

[tribal kraken]

oh....

[stable temple]

You need to check the motherlode to get the opals and getting an opal deletes any ore on the floor sadly

[fervent yew]

All I know for certain is that destroying a layer deletes all your previously mined ore off the floor

[bleak gazelle]

ahh, well that does make sense then

[fossil whale]

does biggie hour work on bravery?

[gilded sedge]

Ace 1.6x multi bravery run wish me gl

[bleak gazelle]

1.6x

[gilded sedge]

Hey where is the gl

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-good-luck-johnny-depp-gif-26735862

[gilded sedge]

[gilded sedge]

I'm stopping the last sword greed mega early this time, I wanna be safe

[gilded sedge]

god tier run already

[bleak gazelle]

huge wtf

[gilded sedge]

It's my first ever blue chest too

@bleak gazelle 148k hp 92k max damage 6 swords do I go for it

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, should be good

[gilded sedge]

200k?

[bleak gazelle]

should still be feasible if you have all rerolls

[gilded sedge]

Rerolls will lose me max damage

Ok I mega lucked

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably run there then

[gilded sedge]

the gains are real

[bleak gazelle]

here was my run earlier

[gilded sedge]

Not too bad

[bleak gazelle]

still don't have last sword throw. would have been ~11 hours to get it so just went ahead and did the run

[quick swallow]

Hi guys can i ask how you guys get a Ton of damage on bravary ? I have 1200 hours but still 2000 Max damage

[solar seal]

you need to scale up measure 2's bonus and properly utilize last sword bonus from engi

[gilded sedge]

Rerolls extra damage also comes into play

[quick swallow]

I dont have measurer where can i find him am in the Harp cavern

[gilded sedge]

One after

Iirc

[quick swallow]

Oh ok

[solar seal]

Calling re-throw as extra damage is very misleading since you don't keep it

[gilded sedge]

I'm talking about the engi upgrade that makes rerolls not yet used give extra max damage

[quick swallow]

My Explorer will take 2 more days to find next layer 😔🫡

[solar seal]

ahh that one 👍

[bleak gazelle]

man i'm still at engi 11 and can't buy any of them

[quick swallow]

You guys got engineer 11 so fast ?

I am cocked

[gilded sedge]

I'm at 14 and I have the opposite issue, evry new level i get i can instantly buy evrything and im back to waiting for levels

[obsidian briar]

What the fu k

Anyways, how increase sword dmg without uh that boost because I already unlock uhh sigma

[solar seal]

Scroll up like 10 messages and read, this question was just asked

[bleak gazelle]

moved this guy so I can maybe finish that last constellation on samurais

but he's not even getting 4m kph. feelsbad

like i guess i could upgrade him?

[solar seal]

bis pickaxe

[little swallow]

am i missing something obvious here i can't really progress to the next upgrades, those 2 and 2 notes upgrades are the only onces i am missing

[bleak gazelle]

my man just going up instead of expanding, smh my head

[obsidian briar]

What is last sword bonus

Dang OK ig

[terse verge]

How do I efficiently utilize the schematic 'First Try, I Swear!' in my Bravery story telling?
You can keep stacking the +10% max damage - so long as your last sword can one-shot the enemy. As soon as it fails to one-shot, you lose all stacked bonuses. Therefore, once you get to an enemy that your last sword might not one-shot, you will want to stop throwing the last sword entirely and rely on your other swords to keep pushing encounters while keeping the higher max damage - until you are forced to utilize your last sword. This will generally allow you to push several more encounters than what you would typically be capable of with your standard stats.
My strategy, generally, is to throw the last sword first until the enemy's HP is ~30-40% of my current max (you can risk it higher at cost of losing your stacked bonus) and run when the enemy's HP is ~2-3x my current max. I usually end up with a max sword damage roughly around 2-3x my actual max when I am able to properly stack the bonus.

[warm pond]

Lost 3 opals wtf

[velvet wave]

how much min i need in gaming to insta gaming ? im currently at 1.4min and it seems that it is around 5sec rn

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1306668882211110962

[bleak gazelle]

i think 1.3min is average? make sure you're in w5 town and check out this calc if you're not there
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YBZq9t_XTnhxN-Cz0P1VMTNsZs_gAM4jFyMB3n7lBi8/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259

[velvet wave]

oh i need to be in the town? it worked not that bad outside of town 😮 made today my nugget from 1.6M to 7.3M (2x doubled) lol

[bleak gazelle]

outside of w5 town the fastest you'll get is "5 second gaming" (which is like 3-5s respawn)

[velvet wave]

ohh got it

[velvet wave]

well in town nothing happens to me? xD

[devout birch]

Tf, I literally just get 2 opals before update the hell

[bleak gazelle]

then you're probably not at instant speed. check out the calculator i linked

[velvet wave]

im at 1.4M and outside is like 5sec spawn, in town its much slower i mean they pop out but not in mass 😮

ill do that calc

i hope it was not a bug ??

[bleak gazelle]

it's not, you're just not at the speed yet

[velvet wave]

but why it works so "good" outside of town, 20 sprouts every few sek, in town just 1, u cant tell me its normal? ill prob message again when i did the calc

[obsidian briar]

Yo how do I get third link for hole

[bleak gazelle]

Outside of W5 town, gaming only updates every 5 seconds. This is to help the game not lag due to checking the skill so often. So when you get enough speed, you'll get "5 second gaming" where everything respawns at once

Inside of W5 town, gaming updates every 1 second. With enough speed, you have constant plant respawns. You can see that here
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bleak gazelle]

If by third you mean overall god link, unlock 3rd blue node (middle tree) then enhance the first green node (right tree)

[obsidian briar]

Oh ok. So what should all my other chars be linked to without pocket div?

[velvet wave]

ok that explains it, thank you.. now i understood. i was kinda confused 😄 so im not sure about the sheet.. seems that i am at 4.6sec rn right? seems really bad xD

[bleak gazelle]

sure, if you want to call it that
you're 21% of the way to instant

[velvet wave]

but still, while i get outside all my 20/20 in 5 sec i need for the same amount in the town like 1min for 20/20 or even more. if u are right then there is something broke when i need over a min to get 20/20

[bleak gazelle]

it's just how the game checks gaming. don't game inside w5 town until you hit instant speed

if you want to complain to lava about it, feel free to
just something you have to work with now

[velvet wave]

no thanks xD

just to be sure im not exploit myself 😄

made huge progress so it feels not that right anyhow xD

[bleak gazelle]

I do main link bear. Pocket links harri/omni

[obsidian briar]

Ok ty

[fickle cave]

Which sever is red in I need the achievement

[tidal cedar]

is there a list of recommended character creation order somewhere?

[bleak gazelle]

with master classes coming soon, everythings up in the air. but previously, last three slots were DK > ES > SB
2nd ES importance is diminished by having Doot
And both 2nd ES and SB importance are diminished by Hole bonuses

[tidal cedar]

Thanks!

[native sentinel]

did cooking meal level xp change with this patch?

[small lantern]

I know that the general consensus was DK for crystal drops and ES for mob drops. Does this still apply to shroom boys from the hole? I just got them, but dang they spawn slow...

[bleak gazelle]

doesn't look like it. in-game display seems to have truncated one digit though. so 3.9e68 opposed to 3.95e68, for instance

[bleak gazelle]

active SB, afk everything else. check out #endgame-gen-chat for more discussion though

even then, afk SB will still probably give you more gains, but if you want to be active for well expansions and don't need to work on anything else, that's the play

[small lantern]

Ight, time to actually finish my archer gear I guess lol. Maybe I'll throw my next conj point into forge cap instead of +30% wish

[hushed quiver]

it's weird but in the pit with the buckets, the maxes of certain one are going up without me reaching them, like before it was 15k to extend i'm now at 10k and now the max is 19k

do you lose when reaching a max?

[solar seal]

it essentially uses up all your ore to increase max

[hushed quiver]

thanks 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, remember to read your upgrades

[hushed quiver]

i missed a lot of the explanation :p

[zenith tiger]

for some reason expand-o-rama is not working for me. my bars stay full and dont upgrade

am i missing something?

[bleak gazelle]

Why is my gravel cap not increasing past 29.2k?
At level 2 Engineer, you gain access to 'Bar Extend-o-rama' (costs 100 gravel). Unfortunately, this bonus allows a well resource to expand only 14 times. (You can see the limits here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cqG1Vv74eJJnW5fUBHkTXXaVLk1q04YUs3fC0dDmOpA/edit?usp=sharing). In order to keep expanding the well resource limits, you will need the 'UBER Bar Expand-o-rama-hala' upgrade (costs 28k gravel) accessible after reaching level 7 Engineer.

[hushed quiver]

do you mean the length because that stops expanding at some point

[zenith tiger]

ohhhh

no i think i just hit the cap

[bleak gazelle]

Also make sure your expansion is turned on

[zenith tiger]

didnt know there wasnt a second upgrade to UBER

needa upgrade my engi further

[craggy wyvern]

So I unlocked w5 last week I'm playing mostly blind but my plan is to get bb set up and the blast my alch to much higher level before I do much more world pushing is sitting in divinity while I level sailing to get the fury a good idea? Or should I just push more?

[bleak gazelle]

If you want to keep playing blind, that's a solid plan, it just may take longer than you're expecting it to

Check out the third 📌 if you want some more specific W5 info on Boss and getting started on Div

[craggy wyvern]

Oh good, I will probably wait another week or 2 before I do that just to give myself time to explore things on my own then I'll check it out. I don't mind how long it takes me to hit w6

[oblique hollow]

I don't understand the purpose of renewing the bell in the hole

can anyone explain?

[bleak gazelle]

to reset your Bell Ring bonuses and cost (but not rate/hr) so you can get more bonuses due to Engineer schematics which give chance for more

[oblique hollow]

I see

[small lantern]

Late engineer has a buff that gives a chance for more rewards per ring, so you want to reset all your bell progress once you have that, so the same scale has higher numbers

[small lantern]

I recommend pushing to the (3rd?) map, to access the recently added Hole. It has a lot of time gates, and its own progression system, so earlier the better.

The map also has a new bi-weekly miniboss like slushy/shrooms, so that's nice too

[craggy wyvern]

Nah I can use the map to get to the hole, so I have gotten a little out of that already

[small lantern]

Oh perfect, wasn't sure that worked before reaching the map for it.

[bleak gazelle]

is it actually just open from the start?

[craggy wyvern]

Yeah I unlocked w5 after the hole dropped and I checked if I could visit it before even checking out the skills

[dusky warren]

not worth, right?

[clever furnace]

what do i have to do to get my cards to the red tier

is that even a thing

besides buying it

[dusky warren]

u need to unlock it first, on rift, then farm enough for it to level

[oblique hollow]

in rift 46 you unlock that

[clever furnace]

oh damn ok

[dusky warren]

rift, yeah

[clever furnace]

im far off

[dusky warren]

forgot about the existance of that

[upper blaze]

Hm

I have ruby frog

[clever furnace]

im at rift 3!

[upper blaze]

I just got into w5

[dusky warren]

do the BB chow stuff before advancing

[clever furnace]

yeah i have a tooon of stuff i gotta do

im very behind for where i am i think

[upper blaze]

Hey can someone tell how bad is having early w3 dmg at early w5?

[zinc palm]

uhhhh
the first w5 enemy has like. 25m hp and its only gonna scale up like there how the hell did you even make it that far

[upper blaze]

😅

[bleak gazelle]

if you need artifacts, i would take all of them. if you don't. i'd still probably take and then just replace as you get full enders

[bleak gazelle]

what is early w3 damage nowadays?

[upper blaze]

Determination?

[eager whale]

about renewing the bell, can i ring my bell first until a decent amount before renewing so i can get a few bonuses right away after renewing?

[dusky warren]

i do need artifacts lol

[upper blaze]

Even my guild mates question how i did that

[zinc palm]

i think i was hitting like ~75k? i spent too long in w4 i dont remember crap

[upper blaze]

You want to know how bad my dmg is?

[upper blaze]

3-8mil 🥲

Or anything under 20mil

[bleak gazelle]

8 mill max sheet damage? pretty standard, maybe even slightly high

[upper blaze]

Im in w5 with that dmg

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, pretty standard for people rolling in

i'd say 3-5m is probably average

[upper blaze]

I dont have a jman

[zinc palm]

standard for w3 or w5 cause like im barely hitting 3m on my dk rn

[upper blaze]

Oh

[bleak gazelle]

standard for entering w5

[zinc palm]

oh

[bleak gazelle]

you only really need around 1m for w4 boss, so there've been plent of folks rolling in here with 1.5m ish

[upper blaze]

...

[bleak gazelle]

we also see some people come in around 15-20m, though they've normally been playing for quite a while or are heavy p2win

[upper blaze]

Oh

[zinc palm]

yeah no im pretty sure i wasnt even hitting 100k going into w3 🙏 idk where those numbers came from

[teal brook]

what ore is thjs and is it worth to push for?

[zealous willow]

Your damage should be heavily buffed in w5 by artifacts and divinity

[upper blaze]

It took me till w4 to hit 2m

[teal brook]

any way to up my bucket/H stuck at 6K

[upper blaze]

Pretty sure thats atoms

[zealous willow]

Si you'll likely see some major improvement over time

[teal brook]

cant be i got millions of atoms

[upper blaze]

I only have like 4 artifacts

[upper blaze]

I dont know i suck at this game

Must be nice

[teal brook]

how am i supposed to up my bucket/H

[upper blaze]

Sit on motherlode

And upgrade your second villager

Do storys

Pretty much everything in hole gives bucket fill rate

[teal brook]

already at 1Bil motherload ore dont think it will help by alot

[zealous willow]

It's not a skill-based game, just time-based. You'll get better over time, and it's natural to be at your place during early w5. I'm in w6 with 19 rifts and still only have 4 islands in sailing, so progression isn't linear.

[chilly wolf]

Any idea if the last 2 gods gonna get link bonuses or are they just kinda stuck how they are lol.

[teal brook]

maybe some day

[upper blaze]

Im on 191k 🥲

Cause thats my max

[upper blaze]

But do you have all of your elite classes?

[zealous willow]

Yeah

[bleak gazelle]

expand your ore bars, mine more motherlode layers, don't fail bravery runs, upgrade bell, buy more schematics

[upper blaze]

Good cause i dont

[zealous willow]

One of the things I focused on in w4

[upper blaze]

I just got my second yesterday

[upper blaze]

They all do like 300k max dmg

[teal brook]

so just wait on harp pretty much that locking me outta bell and let the ores gain themselves

[upper blaze]

U have shaq right?

[zealous willow]

You can probably still push them to elite, as long as their survivability is decent enough (and even then you can just use food).

[upper blaze]

Hm

[zealous willow]

Yes

[upper blaze]

I got it after i got to w5

[zealous willow]

Are your talent presets mixed between damage and skilling?

[upper blaze]

Kinda

How many jman guys u have?

[zealous willow]

Okay, you probably want to split those into 1 preset for damage and 1 for skilling

[zealous willow]

1, you only need 1

[upper blaze]

Well yeah but the skilling part is ass

[upper blaze]

I dont have any

[zealous willow]

That's fine. Jman line isn't necessary until you can get a maestro or vman.

[upper blaze]

But doesn't jman boost everyone?

[zealous willow]

And even then, maestro only affects skilling for others

[zealous willow]

No, only itself. Maestro boosts skilling for those it has a higher skill level than, and VMan boosts stats, damage, and more

[upper blaze]

So access to w5 with only 100+k eff doesn't sound right to me

[upper blaze]

Oh

I still don't know how i got to w5

[zealous willow]

It certainly isn't. I can send you some images I use with preset guides for each class. I got them from a Google sheets link but can't find where that link was

[upper blaze]

Sure

[zealous willow]

Alright, is it okay if I dm you them?

[upper blaze]

Sure

[teal brook]

i must be missing something crucial bucket rate only 6k/H but i am fairly progressed alsmost at hive in the hole

[zealous willow]

Damn mine is still in the hundreds

[upper blaze]

Mine is below 50

[twin dock]

when do i renew a bell?

[jolly jackal]

Why are my ESs not connected in the lab even though I have Actis in polyethism?

[bleak gazelle]

They don't have the blue icon?

Show Poly talent?

[bleak gazelle]

when you've gotten the 2nd schematic that gives bonus levels to Rings

[upbeat condor]

I had rethrows available but it didnt let me use them so i lost on the bravery statue any help with that?

[bleak gazelle]

How does sword re-throw work in Bravery?
The re-throw option is only for a singular sword, not for whole encounters. You are allowed up to 5 per story telling attempt (once every 20 hours). When you are facing a more difficult encounter, you will want to: only roll 1 sword, let the animation finish, and then you will see the option to re-throw that sword. Be aware that you don't keep the damage from the initial throw. The fight heals/rewinds and you simply reattempt that one sword.
If you click a new sword, you will have locked in the previous sword's attempt and cannot re-throw it any longer.
TL:DR - don't faceroll all 5 swords

[upbeat condor]

Thanks that'll help a lot down the road

[bleak gazelle]

Don't worry, you're far from the only one who ran into that issue

[indigo pelican]

hi, what is measurement bonus from village majik please ?

[bleak gazelle]

and are they blue or red in lab?

[bleak gazelle]

4th villager, unlocked in cavern 7

[indigo pelican]

thank you

[jolly jackal]

Red

[bleak gazelle]

Try swapping presets and cloudsave

[hot zodiac]

Is any else having - values on opals?

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1306668882211110962

[hot zodiac]

Thank you

[serene vine]

how do i play poing

[bleak gazelle]

unlock the controller import in gaming

[twin dock]

im level 9 on engineer is that upgrade close to my level?

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle have main active at frogs in world 1 to get the kills up

[oblique hollow]

what is 4th monument bonus (the 750hr one)?

[bleak gazelle]

+1 sword

[oblique hollow]

its mid

sad

[feral wedge]

Help

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1306668882211110962

[fallow aurora]

didn't he fix that bug in a prevous update?

[bleak gazelle]

just for PC

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle got a 24 hour candy from giant frog in world 1 today

[tacit parcel]

how do you get notes from the harp in the hole?

[final jasper]

Strum the string(s) at 100% power or above

[tacit parcel]

but how?

ok i managed now

[blissful hound]

why doesnt it proceed to checkout when i try to buy a gem offer?

[gritty sigil]

What do I do at the harp i have 600% already lol

[latent stream]

does goharut not work if you are connected to the lab via arctis?

[steep kiln]

strum it (drag mouse across the string)

[echo crag]

need to be physically in lab for goharu

[latent stream]

ahh i see

[gritty sigil]

Well that was pretty basic ngl
Thank you

So do I need to get a solfege? Or what

[ornate bobcat]

how can i get higher printer output from mobs

mob mats are the things i print the lowest

[bleak gazelle]

afk gains, multikill, 2x bonus from nobi/lab, movespeed, respawn, make sure you're at 90% sample rate
biggest mob printer is vman. kill as many nightmare bosses as possible then take your samples with void radius up

[stray hull]

and also mob mats being the lowest is pretty much standard regardless

[pallid monolith]

Does anybody else gave negative opals since the update?

[stray hull]

opals from bravery were changed so if you had more than the new limit you have negative amount now iirc

[pallid monolith]

Oh. That's annoying lol

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1306668882211110962

[harsh raft]

Why does dreamcatcher artifact not work properly?

[bleak gazelle]

Max loot pile is 30, so he either wanted to keep that or just forgot about dreamcatch when he added eld/sov

[teal brook]

how can i get the gaming cooldown to grow faster down to 4min and still no chemtech plant unlocked

[bleak gazelle]

no real secret, just upgrade every. fertilizer, squirrel, shell. get a bigger nugget from equinox node. unlock the w6 farming upgrade from Jade Emp and finish your crops

Squirrel speed is normally the "hidden" one, I guess. If you've hit 4-5x bit multiplier on it, you can throw everything into speed

[teal brook]

what about money i am on this coin but not sure where my next boost is

[bleak gazelle]

probably gmush farming for your lab node

[teal brook]

really only that?

guess i could get a couple more B kills

[stray hull]

well pushing maps will also help as getting to w6 gives a good bit more money

[simple wadi]

Get 100 billion kills for the equinox cloud.

[bleak gazelle]

i mean there are other bonuses, too, but lab node is infinite stacking

[teal brook]

why did i loose 2,5x DR from what? i already checked cards and obols

[errant pond]

Moved sets on your SB so his talent that increases DR isnt active?

Havent fought the new weekly boss?

[neon fog]

someone have the snail upgrade list at hand? I cant seem to find it

[latent stream]

statue farming is elemental or divine knight? sorry

[errant pond]

Pretty sure its always DK

[bleak gazelle]

weekly boss? we could only get a max of 4 this week

[teal brook]

2 wings in 20 bosses feels good man¨'

[teal brook]

yeah prolly that too

[bleak gazelle]

DK except for a few from W3 and wood mush for...accuracy?
📌 here or in w3 channel has a list

[latent stream]

ty

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle getting a nice stash of candy from killing giant monsters in world 1 today

[stray hull]

candy is nice but im enjoying the gems even more, heh

[formal folio]

any point in leveling squirrel speed if I already insta grow?

[rich stratus]

do yall think its worth till i get this sov before sampling again
been on the island for a few days at .02 chance with no luck yet

[crimson thistle]

[nova crow]

holy shit, I just got goat god on the first 1%... all my chars only just reach level 10 div.....

[fallow aurora]

link them to goat then shove them in lab

[stray hull]

I dont see any reason to?

[formal folio]

same, just wanted to be sure

[nova crow]

who needs to be active if any..?

[sly sentinel]

Just 1 dude if ur pushing

Your main

I used ES but you can use like DK and maybeee bubo if u have it set up

[gilded pike]

Bros. How much dps is required for k kruk ?

[nova crow]

DK is my pusher yeah - but if I want to use ES for random material farming, I can just pull him out for a few hours right?

[sly sentinel]

I guess but ES is good for mat farming when you active it

[nova crow]

Thats what I meant - I can just pull it out of lab to get some mats for a bit

[sly sentinel]

Of course, sorry I misunderstood what you meant

[gilded pike]

Whoever pin reacted me ty, sorry I forgot those were helpful

[stray hull]

no worries, thats what they are there for 😉

[nova crow]

The pin says BB with Bear in kitchen, hmmm

[rigid phoenix]

Hey guys, when's the cobalt robe supposed to rotate back in? Cuz like, I just got the 20 dollars I needed to buy the pack

[stray hull]

BB in kitchen is a 'much later' thing but yes

[rigid phoenix]

And it just feels like it was only there for a couple days before being rotated out

[sly sentinel]

My BB is still in the kitchen

[stray hull]

you want them to get good lab and div levels first for the gains

[sly sentinel]

Yeah

[stray hull]

then you can stuff him in kitchen, then go get chows, then back to kitchen lol

[sly sentinel]

It's different tho if u pull doot

But I don't got doot :c

[nova crow]

ok, what about my journeyman, lab aswell? I need to get it to maestro lol

[sly sentinel]

Yesss

He's basically useless without being maestro/vman

[rigid phoenix]

Does anyone know when the cobalt robe is gonna be rotated back in??

I've asked like 5 times now and nobody's seen my question

[sly sentinel]

In my experience

[sly sentinel]

I would help but I don't remember/know what that is

[nova crow]

It just was in so probably a few weeks

[silver loom]

it was the pack released when the hole came out

[rigid phoenix]

It's from the latest pack

[stray hull]

if journeyman is a decent level you can look to pushing for vman, if not leave him in lab for a while

[sly sentinel]

OH

It just rotates randomly iirc

Idk exactly tho

[rigid phoenix]

Yeah, but it was only there for like a couple days before it was rotated

And I just got the 20 dollars for it

[sly sentinel]

Yeahhh

Idk

[rigid phoenix]

I am quite frustrated now, not gonna lie

[nova crow]

Ah.... unlucky

[sly sentinel]

That's fair but hey you are saving 20$ technically

[nova crow]

if you dont need the DR just now, you're not missing that much

[sly sentinel]

It gives dr?

[nova crow]

drop chance sorry

[rigid phoenix]

I mean, not really. I'm gonna get that pack eventually.

[sly sentinel]

The yeah I guess

[sly sentinel]

GOD DAMN

That ain't fair

That's sooooo good

What slot does it take tho?

Wings?

[nova crow]

New one lol

[sly sentinel]

Bruhhh

Thats sooooo good

[nova crow]

It is insane value pack

[sly sentinel]

Yeah Jesus

[stray hull]

hmmm decent improvement

[nova crow]

do i need to manually do anything at the bell? or just set it and do something else

[errant pond]

Set it and do other stuff

[empty wharf]

I didn't receive the island explorer pack after buying.

[nova crow]

Can you just switch pocket div whenever?

[fallow aurora]

I use omni+harriep and switch to goat+snake when sampling

[nova crow]

What about main one then?

I'd like to forget about switching if possible haha

[fallow aurora]

I have 8 on arctis to keep lab lit up, 1 on purrmep, and vman on flutterbis for the divinity pearls

[nova crow]

Makes sense for arctis, thanks

I guess I'll switch from goat to that when my lab/div are done

and I'll just do harriep for prints for now

[random steeple]

any one afked 2k?

[teal lynx]

It's impossible to be there yet

[bleak gazelle]

i don't even remember how long the update has been out

[teal lynx]

Even with all 10 chars it would take 8.33 days and the update is out for ~7 days

[bleak gazelle]

but lanterns

you know those funny people in endgame

[teal lynx]

I guess if someone was that dedicated to have 10 chars afk all the time, get lanterns each day and spent 2 wishes for the 12 hour bravery time on the lantern cave ...

[steep kiln]

And got high level endless summoning

[teal lynx]

Update every 7 days. Today was first update. Therefore the Cave update was 7 days ago
have I mentioned 7 days yet? Oh 7 days is a Week btw... 7 days

[latent stream]

how do i manage obols when active farming for statues? is there an auto trash system?

[teal lynx]

Use the Item filter

[bleak gazelle]

yeah i have everything but gold circles filtered

[teal lynx]

That's your best friend

[latent stream]

well i want the upgrade shards sob

[bleak gazelle]

then click more

[latent stream]

damn

[solar seal]

if someone left them at bravery since hole update, didn't claim - then got the monument afk from endless summoning, it would've been possible -- but you had to have played some crazy 5d chess to have predicted those moves

[teal lynx]

Then do it like Ace. Maybe only filter bronze obols and then you trash boss obols and gold (and silver if you are dedicated)

[bleak gazelle]

got my 3rd dragonic

[teal lynx]

Or had some insider info

[teal lynx]

🤝

[bleak gazelle]

i'm sad i didn't buy one of the early ones. but guess i finally got there

[teal lynx]

Me too

[bleak gazelle]

aye yo

oh wait that's full DR cards

39.55 with crystal

[stiff hornet]

Hello I need help with the world 5 hole cause the amplifier for hounds is not resetting

Cause I need to make them normal again

[bleak gazelle]

tap it once to select, then long press to reset (~2 seconds)

[stiff hornet]

Bet

[teal lynx]

Getting to 40x dr is already a big step!
You finally advanced to Midgame

[bleak gazelle]

now if my villagers would catch up

2 days until c9
2 days until an opal reset. feelsbad

[graceful fern]

Should I buy dragonic cauldron or more parallel villager? I only have the Explorer one right now. I can honestly grind all my keys to get dr nametag but f that dont want to do bosses today

[stuck river]

Today I'm buying island Explorer pack

[bleak gazelle]

if you don't have any dragonics, i would highly recommend it as they're only in shop 1-2 times a year

[empty wharf]

Man. I hope lava gives my explorer pack before dragonic gets replaced.

[sly sentinel]

when do i get the measurer

[bleak gazelle]

c7

[sly sentinel]

i should have saved some opals

darn

what does E string do

[sly sentinel]

what are the costs of the lvl 9 engi upgrades well wise

cuz i am getting it tmr and i want to prep

[solar seal]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[simple bramble]

i feel like i made a mistake should i reset?

[gilded sedge]

@bleak gazelle bravery run wish me gl

[mighty harbor]

What exactly does the Bring them back bonus for the lamp do?

[spiral path]

man, endless summoning has been a blast. And my essence generation has gone up like 70 times

[bleak gazelle]

wdym? that's fine the only thing i'd do differently is get first green and enhance if you don't have doot

[simple bramble]

okay just overthinking too hard ty ty i got doot

[gilded sedge]

Is exp higher prio then monument bonus considering how much xp you get from monument?

[bleak gazelle]

probably depends on how many opals/schematics you have it was most likely assumed that you'd get those bunch in blue before your monument bonuses could stack that high

[simple bramble]

it took me until today to realize "monument" was referring to bravery, i 100% thought it was some unreleased thing.. i'm -iq

[bleak gazelle]

but that also depends on how many villager xp bonuses you take, too

[gilded sedge]

Well it's one of highest prios for bravery no

[bleak gazelle]

yea, but still not guaranteed to get it, especially on higher levels

[gilded sedge]

Idk I feel like even on bad runs u get a decent amount of it

@bleak gazelle 200k hp 98k max damage do I go for it or no?

[spiral path]

would trying to get the next draconic cauldron be worth it at this point?

I have the first 2

[bleak gazelle]

take it up with trickz
it's 1% per level afaik, so definitely gets bigger. but top left blue scales with schematics and top right is some other multi i thinkg

[spiral path]

my free keychain obviously low rolled 8%

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, 2x should be good still

rip, got 11 on main, 13 on alt

[bleak gazelle]

if you're not hurting for gems, might as well, considering they're only in shop 1-2 times a year

[gilded sedge]

Lmao I just got insane rolls did it with 3 swords

271k is cooked tho no?

[spiral path]

I'm obviously doing the cave wrong, I'm nowhere near that

but I have avoided spoilers, so I'm just playing it blind

[fluid gazelle]

Does anyone know what the new meta is with pocket doot for early game pushers like me? I've been doing lab grind with goat god link + pocket doot hare god

[bleak gazelle]

if you want to be safe, yeah. you could potentially swing it though

[gilded sedge]

nah i ran i dont wanna greed too much, the run was okayge

[bleak gazelle]

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity for lab?
During long stretches of lab-focused XP grinds (aka Lab75/Div40 or Lab2100):
-real link - all to Goat (any ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Goat)
-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Bear / Snake

[fluid gazelle]

Okay thank you

[junior dune]

Harriep secondary link seems weird to me when using pocket divinity

[bleak gazelle]

6x prints

[spiral path]

man, these winner bonuses on endless summoning are insane, I'm up to +56% monument AFK

[bleak gazelle]

i've seen up to 68 once you get tot he 50s

[bleak gazelle]

What are you running atm?

[spiral path]

I'm at 42, I can probably push past it in a few hours

[junior dune]

Omni

[solar seal]

Are you not utilizing a 3rd link?

[bleak gazelle]

-Pocket Divinity - standard use - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
I guess you could rewrite this as
Harriep + Omni / Goat

[junior dune]

I got to 50. Won't be competitive for quite some time due to me not being able to afford all the new gemshop essence boosts

[junior dune]

Still haven't prioritized that in favor of reinvesting into hole

Actually I'm running nobi for the grotto

But swap a lot right now

[solar seal]

if nobi helped getting more statues, i'd probably do the headache of swapping - but too much effort

[bleak gazelle]

You're also much further ahead then most people who we're responding to, so the prints are probably useful for more things

[spiral path]

has anyone gotten to 300 max book from summoning yet?

[solar seal]

the +28 displayed, actual +29 is hard cap atm

[spiral path]

gotcha

[bleak gazelle]

unless you're iOS

[spiral path]

so when releasing the hounds, "Hiring hounds from beyond" only cares about kills, so I should be doing runs with no amplifiers to get more kills, right? While I push for higher scores with amplifiers, I mean.

[bleak gazelle]

first day or two people were getting to ~mid 400 for regular classes. think I got my vman to 220ish?

[spiral path]

my vman got 270, everyone else mid 300s

[bleak gazelle]

oh, nvm 262, so close enough

[spiral path]

I just barely pulled off 372 on my DK, my damage is still lacking

[faint swift]

Trying to finish up some W5 Nightmare Kruk kills, struggling with my BB, anyone got a damage number I should be looking for, or do i just gotta get good and actually micro for mole kills

[bleak gazelle]

if you want a good time 100b or more
100-120b should just be able to smack the boss/full auot iirc

[solar drift]

i should redo them

[faint swift]

I should have said i'm at sitting at ~130b at the moment, moles just healing and BB is annoying to micro on

[solar drift]

i would just get gud, it wont take long anyway and you have to do it 1x only

[slender lantern]

Did anyone move their lab rats to shrine ?

The bravery monument or whatever it’s called

[fallow aurora]

thats what I did

[arctic patio]

i was thinking about it but i have not done it yet. i did get the 300 hour unlock though

[faint swift]

I went and got gud and won, just took 20 minutes lol thanks

[ember ermine]

does this bonus do anything?

isn't it additive so therefore essentially useless