#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Maybe not for people who played before w6 came out
thats a huge difference in dmg
Uhhhhh I was gonna ask something but I forgot what I was gonna say
Oh now I remember
Can someone send me a screenshot of the cog setup
For construction
ngl i just read what he type again and idk what he want, he said he want to kill world boss with maestro but didnt say which one, so im out
I don’t have it, but ik ace posted it in this chat like 2 days ago if you are desperate lol
nah that was kaito
Tyt
Tynsrytuut
damn since when did we have this
Little question everyone : I just acquired king doot as a compagnon, so all my divinities are up right ? which go do I have to link now to get his bonus ? Like Purrmep or Omniphau ?
gg.............................................
Purrmep
https://imgur.com/a/xumJ8Ds
Thank you very much ❤️
man, my gmush cap print is in shambles still after my last failure of a print
Guess you gotta get 10k
it used to be higher, but idk, i did a speedrun and was convinced it should be higher and that my samples weren't taking, so i deleted the old one 
i want to resample soon
want to get atleast 10m monster mats so i can hourly click them alter with 9x multiplier
Where do you even find these
anyway, bed time for me 
Night
im a professional gif clicker
What’s the hourly pay
Sounds like more of a casual gif clicker to me
this discord is rough you know
Gotta get at least 100 kekw/hr
they dont give kekw that freely
Skill issue

Bro I've been stuck at getting around 50k green bits per 100 hours of gaming.... how do I get a lot more
Uhh
Has anybody figured out how the Harp works?
I love it when they don't stand a chance 😄
Mouse drags over the strings
Not sure how to beat up wurm though, the builds from the guide don't really seem to work
is 33 hours for each one of my 3 warriors good to finally stop farming "ores mined" at the lower layers of moterlode?
or should I wait more?
my best one was at 100k per hour, others are 50k

are you timing shield?
No, the guide said those builds are full auto
ahh its been a long time since i done pets, but everything past w5 i had to time at least the first block
The first block is not the issue, the pets just keep randomly dying into the fight when I've done 10-20B damage already
you need to get trasher
This is what I am trying
that is very old and will not work for w5+ battles
Is there an updated list?
auto review has team suggestions, but not a guide so to speak
Hm. That sucks
oh yeah trasher and peapeapod are op
peapod, looter, trasher, refill, refill, monolith
It works for any spice
WIll try that
What pet power? 40k+?
What works for any spice?
the team from the guide
i did mine ~50-70. power doesnt really matter though - just makes it take more or less time
I cant beat wurm, so it doesnt seem to work for me
Just take way longer because monolith
trasher lets you click enemy projectiles to destroy them, just saying bc i didnt know that lmao
you let mono die when you are ready
We call that skill issues, so that’s why the peapod team is better because you can auto it
Yep, fair enough, will try with that
I did that team up to w6 except last 2 spice
trasher team is "auto" but you still need to click the projectiles
at that point I got peapod and just auto it
So, no shield because I need to click projectiles, got it
yes, I’m just saying that it still works
You just need to have more experience or use the peapod team
sure, just clarifying that "auto" isnt the same as the arena line up
where u literally walk away from ur comp
Instead of monolith you can also just use trasher and auto it
i guess thats true, i liked monolith because my game would be laggy and it would give me a safe start
I know what you mean
Will be a while until I get peapod, but I have like 8 spices to farm pets for too now since I caught up on everything since Crystal Caverns
Thanks for the help guys c:
What you should do is enter battle > leave battle > re enter until you pet skill are maxed
What is this trickery that I have not heard about yet
Does it save skill states between restarts?
is a cheesed strats but that’s how you can safely block the first hit > monolith > wait till it end and use refiller
thats some next lever shit lmao, i never heard of that
smh abusing the game xD
Just go in the battle, stay a bit without using skill
leave and then re enter
Yeah, will try that when I attempt wurm again 😄 Right now my "other" spice level is way too high
i was barely able to farm w6 spices by the time i unlocked them so dont worry, ur not missing out too badly. just do what you can 🙂
Later on refiller can be ignored if you running 2 because you will have enough refiller time
and its not as bad as worship time wise at the very least
How though - Putting those pets on manual or just switching off auto, clicking, then turning it on again?
Manual them
And the rest is auto?
Bone guy auto/ looter auto / 1 refiller auto
Only learned about the possibility to manual individual pets today too
1 refiller manual / monolith manual /defender manual
With enough stacks later on you can actually just spam defender only
seems like so much more paying attention XD
That’s why I said skill issues 
Will try that - Otherwise will go for the peadpod one, I am not in a hurry; Farming foragers and cooking meals is gonna take a little while anyway now
And I hate monolith for that
Also - I still gotta dive into the hole 😄
I wanted to finish pets before the hole but it seems to me Wurm is not the final boss anymore
You can also auto if you reset enough that defender time the first attack
If you haven’t even start it
You should
Not yet, no
I have read about the insane ore cap thing though
Then start it, you want to start leveling villager
it is all time gated so the sooner u start the sooner it will be good even if u do nothing else
Will do when I get home from shopping

whats the meta for non doot god slots now?
tbh u could just get the unending bars upgrade or w/e and then ignore it for a week lol
Sadly you can’t
I mean I am not even at a pooint where I could do hourly or 2 minute farms
An hour of 3 rangers just gives me 1200 starfire per slot or something
So I am really not endgame or in a rush^^
Max cap is 14 iirc and you can extend it more later on in engineer schematics
some of them don’t have a efficiency gatekeep
Just time
Aah okay
sorry, meant this thing
for example the most ask question for the past 2 days is HOW DOES BRAVERY WORKS
Can anyone give me some advice on what to do for mob mat printing, or is there like a sheet with information or something I could use?
I will come with that question in a few days then
Ye that’s what I’m talking about, max is 14 iirc let me check
you just have to read basically
We all know how that works in here
perfectly
Thanks
ah, well. i still think if u are gonna ignore hole for a while - getting the first bar expander is worth
yep
he shouldnt ignore it anyway if possible
since he want to unlock more bucket
which is just waiting so even if your account is dogshit you can do it
apprntly shopping is more important than hole
NAH, LET HIM STARVE
I'll take your advice then
I mean depends on what ho-
No, not doing that here :v
my partner unironically made that joke today :p
either way, unlock hole, start doing it a bit
the first cave is really easy to do and let you get lots of free upgrade
Juicy upgrades
sofar theres only 2 cave which is cave 2/3 that might give you problem
number that go up
cave 2 require mining efficiency, cave 3 require dmg/defense/accuracy
cave 4 is bravery which is chill and you can start stacking buff for free
cave 5 give buff to others cave mechanics which is also just waiting time
Now that you mention it, I am scared of resampling, I have a 60% boost because I didn't resample in a while and if my resamples are lower than those 60% I am gonna lose prints smh
shiro, help me 
yes ?
skillfully avoids the spoilerz
question: if I have 2 characters mining in the same motherlode layer (obv) and both are getting like 10k, and after an hour I logged into the first character and went to the next layer, will the 2nd character still get the gains of the layer I was in before? , or will it change?
it will change
you can technically still pre prep it if you want
like im doing
I really didnt mean to make you delete this, I was saying this as a joke D:
I just didnt look at it xD
no is correct
yeah depends on your efficiency, you dont have to go to far
lava (the developer if you didnt know) confirm that is additive
5.5b gave me 48/h and 10B give me 50/h
Btw one last thing
Is this a "normal" percentage for Snowy South Sovereign Artifacts?
lol
at some point it will be a constant 0.01
bro didnt hesitate
Does it go lower than that and just show 0.01 or is it really 0.01?
you can increase it but it doesnt really matter...
its lower
my highest was 0.10 after awhile
So really just spamming ships every 1-2 hours is the strat
and on last island 0.07
3.5h-4h
rn my highest is 3 for an eldritch
I have doot and get the occasional sailing bonus hours too, on average
if you have close to 100% thingy
yes thats why 3.5h-4h
usually you want to send out your ship that have 2h travel time
Ah, you mean it like that
Then yes
so if you claim 3.5h-4h you can always max claim
Yeah, I am backtracking on building up all my ships to a good level before going to the last island because that takes me like 10h on my fastest ship
So right now trying to get as high of a threshhold on Toolbox, speed wise
this is important, dunno if you have choco chips or not but is next week
you shouldnt backtrack on ships in sailing if possible
What is this?
furthers island you can get to with ~2-3h max travel time
then upgrade your first boat after trading the materials for gold
beanstalk mechanic from world 6
I kinda want all my ships to be on at least 7-8M speed
give your character all time gold food bonus
At least that's what I have been told is good to go for
which is bad because it doesnt matter at the beginning
you want double speed captain on first ship
You never know what advice to follow lol
- upgrade in a interval of 8 for loot and 7 for speed
Is my best combo atm anyway, but I never get double speed captains xD
25 base speed is ok, just remember to get double speed for boat 1
then let it sit on the furthest island with 2/3h sailing time
trade all the furthest island materials for gold and upgrade it
this should be your average boat level later on when you are farming sovereign
Aaah, okay
the difference between materials
the first mats is from the 3rd last island
I mean I am kinda close, my last boats suck
dont matter, send him to first island or something
Yeah, is what I am doing with sovereign farming
get boat 1 to 100m speed and you good
But I will switch and follow your advice
technically all the boat that can be upgrade speed with gold can also get to 100m speed if you want
you can also either use double speed or speed/loot captain
So, all boats to the furthest they can get to for 2h claims?
Noice, thanks
...Gonna be annoying to figure out which boat can go where
use toolbox or IE
it say min travel time on toolbox, just send them to the island that they are close to or below that time
how do i link with multiple gods with ES?
You spend talent point in the bottom left talent, spend them 1 at a time
Bloodhounds where?
Map 3 in the hole
ight
The boys are on their way
Now off to shopping
Thanks for the advice again Shiro c:
is the 2nd link for all or only ES?
Only ES, you can link others to multiple gods in the hole with the conjurer
is it the same as King Doot or its better?
Doot is better, if you have doot then the conjurer bonus gives bonus stats instead
If only i had doot 
👍, just remember to check daily captain for double speed for the first boat
Yep!
I wonder when I will get used to double click map change lol
Should I sit all my characters at bravery until I unlock everything? Or how long should I do it
80h is good right now to get freebies
More will depends on what you have to do
for example if you still need 2100lab level i wouldn’t let everyone sit there
i would probably let mage in lab jail and warrior archer in bravery
Here’s my account
What did you choose?
ye nah, dont afk for to long at bravery
you need to backtrack alots of stuff first
Sorry to ask but could I have a few examples please
https://i.imgur.com/c1RhPXA.png this + auto review
Alright
Thanks
!review
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
there we go
holy crap motherlode takes so much time. I have 28B mining efficiency and it will take 2 and a half days to tear off layer 13 that needs mining efficiency of 10.5 million.
Is there yet anyway of checking my account on iOS?
idk if you can check autoreview on your phone but try updating your profile in idleon efficiency
and type you your first character name and press submit
i just got to world 5 do i move all my lab chars to divinity? or how does it work
how do i reach 39.8k accuracy for w5? Highest i can go is 27k
You move 9 characters to divinity and 1 chara to the hole asap
Pretty much there is some welcome info in the pins, #3 especially.
but then i dont get the lab bonuses
Ignore divinity get in the hole
Also yes you want to start the hole asap.
The hole gives you permanent lab bonuses
*terms and conditions apply
Whats the minimum level for no bubble left behind to activate?
Same as before. Base stats, shaq, stamps, statues, dungeon, star sign, owl, roo.
is it better to save the statues for onyx or just dump it all?
Onyx is probably a ways away and it seems like you need that stat now.
Cause rn my main pusher is full void except for weapon with tenacity ring
I might keep the power statues as you need them first.
ok
- Well for bubble lvls.
Ty
cant seem to load a screenshot here..... but my pocket divinity only offers 30% stat to all characters... i am on god rank 1. and the skill is enhanced. - cant seem to get to choose a god like all the screenshots posted. any ideas?
Which god is best to choose? I dont have alle unlocked in divinity
depends on what you are doing
if you whole team is in lab right now with goat
get harpier for 6x print
You have doot
@solar plover #endgame-gen-chat message hey mate what does this one scale off?
I got 2 guys in lab cause I needed that Connection Range Bonus, the others are in hole rn
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
Run arctis then so all your charas can activate lab bonuses
Or run omni if you don't need lab bonuses
bruntine, it's the 6th ore
oh i meant the bonus, like how the one before it is total crops sorry
DAMN
ah ok, umm i guess so, but im sure you hit more then 10 haha
even if its digits thats only 1b
It's quite vague, don't really know tbh
all good mate, thanks anyway
what's the best thing to pocket divinity at start while dootless (and only having divinity up to omniphau)? Elephant for afk gain boost?
how does the harp work
real link - all arctis, 2nd es on purrmep (this es poly's to bear)
1st pocket - harriep
2nd pocket - as needed
1st es poly can be whatever you want
ty
ah harriep for printer boosting
Do I need to leave him here for 1hr?
yeah
Exactly 1hr or it can be more
more time won't be wasted
as much as you wanr
there are increasing tiers of waiting
Oh so basically afk island 2.0
Is fractal but you need to stay there
it's a littoral time sink or some kind of a time hole
yup
Is it that worth grinding it?
im dooted
depends where you're at, the guy probs at lvl 550 chars has most of the other stuff done
before hole all those chars were farming god rank lol
80h is good enough
i'm at 350 and keeping one guy there for next tier is 80h of wait which i'm cutting with 3 chars wasting just 'cause i'm curious
Split your character if you have nothing to do with them
mage preferred in lab if you don’t have 2100 lvl yet
the rest can sit in bravery/motherlode and for active , you choose what you need
Have to get back into the game xd
and miners can probs get opals faster by mining
Have been neglecting them all
Well idk why you afk 410h on godshard as a warrior
but you are cooked with your vman
stop farming for materials and just print them
Does nobisect multiply bonejoe kills?
who is the honorable class
the class within
What are the two recommended gods to link with the pocket divinity now?
Joined him now he is lvl 396 lmao didn't expect that much xp lol
Will it count for nothing attempts?
Nah bro I get 30k godshard bars per 2 minute claim this ain't real
It took me 50 1 hour candies to get that much last time
For the love of Jesus
does max multi ore bonus from idelOn majik like increase the cap from 400%?
Guys how do I get a lot of bits because I'm only getting 50k bits per 100h of gaming
do more gaming
question, are hounds in well affected by spawn rate?
Thanks a lot, been doing that for months and still stuck there
months???
Yes
are you upgrading your plants
well...tbh, you could check once a month and it would technically take "months" also :P
like the value and speed
Does the bell in cavern have to be active?
Also who thought making the
emoji was a good idea
seems afkable
It is
Lavaflame2
It makes me so uncomfortable bro
would it be better if it was preg seahorse? :P
_ _
When I afk at bell it just says nothing
You don't have to afk there for it to fill up
It fills up even when you are not there
gumblos are descended from sea horses blobyltes
bell? you mean well?
No, bell
bruh the roll
So... why is the forge cap considere duseless?
Who lied to you? 
the hole guide
reset portion for magiks suggests it was useless for misspending points
I love sitting here minding my own business mining a motherlode and watching people fall over dead. best update 10/10
"misspending" is an entirely different thing
i think the map doesnt seperate between all the caverns
It doesn't. all caversn are one map, so its people fighting hounds
You can overinvest in it in which case it literally burns your entire stack of ores/oils in one sitting.
running out of godshards is peferrable
Whats the skill i should priorytise in wrld 5
did you just get there?
All
Any tips on gaming
Unlock evos
What are dose
Oh yeah mutations i already havetge venus flytrap lookin thing
who can help with this ??
And now I've ran into another issue being not having enough ores
does bravery afk hours get rounded down?
how do you get the time on the monument to progress
afk
for 1 hour
hold click
Hold down the amplifier to reset it. Instructions are there when no amplifiers are selected.
my bad thanks
Is there some version of the robe that doesn't cost money?
There is a massive amount of new content and mechanics. Lots of text and directions will be overlooked.
Engineer in camp has an upgrade
he gave me 4 up for now
Have you seen the hole guide in tips and tricks?
How to get to glowshroom tunnels?
Explore
Get the next explore level.
Ah ok
nope
thanks my friend
Stupid question maybe, but does anyone know if I can link to Omniphau and select that link in Majik to get a dubble proc? Or does it not stack?
I highly doubt they stack.
probably like this
it got me at the start too when it looks very progressed already lol
How did you increase damage?
just afk in bravery
theres a schematic
Ty
what does scaled skill efficiency mean?
Still trying to figure out how to use the harp. I'm sure I'm just being an idiot but I don't see anything to actually make the notes. Just change the notes
you drag your mouse over it like you would an actual harp
what do these mean?
They're bonuses based on your skill levels
The link bonus from snake acts as a pseudo-catchup method. Provides more the lower skill level it is, with less the higher it is. Its not anything to hyper focus as gaining skill levels as you get into w5 and w6 is not terribly difficult
Thanks
is the bucket fill rate total or is it that for each bucket you unlock?
After you run (when the fight gets too hard), you can see the bonuses on right side. The levels correspond to the bonuses there - each scales a little differently so you can see how they grow
each bucket
neat
how I wish card set was part of card preset...forgot to change it so many times
wait...monument in well is identical to that island at world 2 (can afk anywhere) or do i have to be at monument?
Monument acts like fractla with how it treats time (must be min 1hr and always rounds down) - a little diff from fractal in that you must afk there
i'm guessing that idling at monument doesn't count for fractal...huh?
Nope cause you are doing the ‘momument activity’ forget what the text says
When you come back from afk, you’ll see you can claim +monument time instead of +nothing time
any tips for the well? From what I understand it has "rebirth" mechanic. So I'm guessing investing majority of opals to explorer is key?
or should I rather say fireplace, since well is part of the cave?
Most of community’s info is gathered here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700 for you to read through
Re: opals, people are doing diff strats so not one is yet to be determined since folks have diff prio on what they want to unlock. Only general point of note is to try to invest 10 opals at a time due to a bonus from conjurer later
i didn't want to read too much into that guide cause I see it could spoil my play too much. But from what I read it doesn't have rebirth mechanic and is linear, therefore you can "hinder your progress"?
Hi kaito 
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
There are ways to reset opal investment so the answer is yes and no. You can’t mess up to point of “irreversible change”
You can send up delaying things but its not hindered progress since you are just doing one villager over another. We don’t know most optimal path so no one can say whether one is right or less efficient just yet
are you sure? imagine leaving explorer at level1 investment :P
How do the rethrows in Bravery work?
getting to reset opal investment with that would take a while...a really long while...
Wait for each individual sword to resolve (finish animation) - and determine if you keep it or rethrow
Thank you ❤️
I understand now. I shouldn't just full send all 5 swords like an idiot
anyone knows how do i get points to enhance Majiks?
Dont worry - we all do that and go wtf
level up your conjuror
Level conjurer or gem shop
^^
Are the points to enhance and unlock new Majik the same?
Enhance majik is same as unlocking a new one
oh thank you
(I understood your question right after i answered
Anyone able to confirm
I feel like opal dumping into explorer isnt a terrible choice. YOu can find cavern 7 or 8 or whatever resets your opals so the faster you find it, the better. Right?
Its definitely one strat. Like i was mentioning earlier - diff folks have diff prios - it is still too early to say one over another. Also have to consider just how many time skips some folks are buying.
is it worth doing this?
I personally will go half the total opals to explorer until i unlock the reset
Realize that only 9 caverns are coded so far so there is a limit to how good explorer is right now
And the wishes to reset opals is quite expensive
No. Reducing good prayer benefits by 80% to gain bad prayer benefits of 20% without any giant spawns means its never the right choice
ok ty
Too broke for that. I just don't want to sink too much into something if it's going to cause a further pain down the road.
so...hoarding opals without spending any? >:D
A lot of folks are doing a 20/10/low/10 setup
Balnces out pushing with keeping up with bonuses as you unlock them
That would just make things so slowwwww
Bruh how we use the Re-throw in Bravery ? the sword goes too fast and i cant click on re trhow 
I know...it's a joke on rare resource hoarding xD
Throw sword one at a time, let the animation finish - then choose if you want to rethrow
If you throw next sword - it’ll keep first sword’s value
Its okay - everyone does it and panics
like the free lamp...I personally am just going to lock it in in my inventory until i forget about it xD (have few of such things...like bottled winds)
I keep laughing when toons keep yeeting from top to bottom of my screen in the hole
I've got some questions about The Motherlode:
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I've tried to leave guys there to afk, when I come back I have had it both not give progress and also give far less progress than just active AFK there, anyone know the mechanic on that?
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does the rate at which you mine actually change how fast you mine each level? My guy showed 2.5mil/hr mining, though only went through approx 100k in about 30 minutes. Obviously not accurate. How does that mechanic work?
Do only full idle hours count for bravery?
Or does a 50 min and a 10min idle count for 1 hour?
only full hours like fractal island
Whelp, time to take a bit off from Hampter farming and stay at Bravery
- you need to make sure to pick up ore on ground - you got 0 progress cause you left it on floor
- as you break more layers, the eff req goes up so your prowess bonus goes down - lower ore/time - have to recheck after each new layer
Bit annoying that Motherloade just allows 5 levels per day :p
All resource caverns share the 5 layer/day. we will hit caps though very quickly due to requirements so it shouldn’t be too bad of a limit
Fair enough
I am not really far at all yet. Wondering what those purple rocks are for in the well. (Don't spoil, just wondering)
Breaking purple rocks gives access to next bucket ore
Ok, so works just like any other mining thing in every way. This is useful, thanks much!
I was a bit confused at first as to why I cant find the ore in inventory too ^^
Any gem shop upgrades worth buying for de hole?
Buy explorer exp
Need some Elp . like my linking or Unlinking Snake god is doing nothing its supposed to give 30 percent afk no ?
|| Cavern 9 mob - provides passive villager xp - also drops dragon statue (1:100k rarity) ||
If you are checking on divinity altar - you will find no benefits. Divinity is not affected by general afk. You’d need to be doing some activity that can be affected by afk
i did the Idle Magic and AFK going from 130 to 160 but. if i do it from the god it staying 130.
Can you provide screenshot of what activity and differences - likely something else is being affected
Firstly uhh if one chracter is connected to the God everyone gets the Afk or just that character?
The true god link (from divinity altar) is only for the one character.
Pocket divinity is account wide
well i have kinda used the weekly unlinks fucking around and currently have snake as true link... on ES
Do we have all conjurer bonus listed already in someplace?
Just to make sure you are aware, the weekly 2 unlinks are for account. Each unlink can unlink from 1 to all 10 of your chars at a time
@dapper prism for hole guide, you might wanna add that you have to reroll swords (click on it) before all the swords hit otherwise you lose before having the chance to roll
I know just Unlinked and linked twice to see if it was just game anyways out of the unlinks. showing on the unlink tab .
The reroll is per sword. Just do sword, let animation finish - and decide if you want to reroll — dont just facesmash all 5 swords
added, ty
yw
Is it normal that it takes me like 3 days to push lampars
Damn 
No, you probably need to upgrade your stamps/alchemy/gear. try to get everybody up to atleast void armor & luster weapons
Well its more than possible to go through w5 without hitting multikill. But if you cant hit max number of mobs per hour without multikill than something is really wrong with your damage.
Max kills is something iike 30k? Or something. You can try using balance of pain prayer.
Though keep in mind that wont work for w6.
Tbh with roo & owl being a thing now he should easily be able to hit multikill in world 5 i would think
Eh it depends on how far behind you are. I dont think roo and owl give really big bonus 
I went through w5 without multikill when w5 was the last world. Since then portal requirements were heavily cut. So i imagine its not really hard to push it without multi.
Can i provide small note re: rethrow. Once you have bonus, you should throw swords one at a time. Wait for the animation to finish, decide if you want to rethrow before throwing next. If you throw 1, then immediately throw next - you can only ever rethrow the last throw you made. So final sword can never be rethrown cause if you lose - you lost.
how the harp works?
After at least 100% harp power, drag mouse/finger across strings to play 🎶
ty
Bravery
right
this bell is eating my funds 
Is cobalt robe avaliable other than in the pack that costs money?
ok thx
How do I progress in the harp area?
try harder 😄
Thank you
Does afk-ing in the motherload not work at making progress towards destroying layers? I collected three characters afk over night with millions of ore and the bar didn’t move
doesnt do much if u dont destroy the layer
You likely forgot to pick up ore on floor
make sure you pick the ore off the ground
Ah, that was it, thanks!
can any1 link a build for smithing i need a lot of pinion spurs
People are gonna be so juiced by the time they make it to w6 now
There’s not really a “build”. Just max speed, make sure hammer hammer bubble has good levels.
kaito you know where i could have got this multi from ?
okay, thanks
Time waited. Daily aspect
the 3x forge is already a W imo
Only 5300 2m claims for vial now
can i reset the anvil?
What bob said. Its just to allow you to afk without needing to feel you must do bravery fight on 20hr cd
yes
like points for speed capacisty
W3 shop ?
ok thanks
Huge
im lik e 30h away ;/
how do i decrease amplifiers?
with reading
sorry
Click to select, long hold, on release it’ll be 0

gl
Shiro
Throw one at a time
If I have an ender captain already, and found another with rare chest/cloud discovery, is it still a mandatory pickup?
gamba time
Ok you did phew
If you have bad captains, i’d pick em up for the hidden bonus. If you only have perfect loot/loot ones, it becomes a harder decision
i would assume so tho both fall off long term
What could i be forgetting about that makes such a big difference between these two chars?
Do you have big pick on bar and attacks on simmer maxed on both?
Also check the other star talents
just noticed this in specials what is it?
Pick is same, talents are much better on the char that is worse - attacks on simmer i forgot on both
So must be something else
Yeah thats why I’m more confused what ive forgotten about
Just check everything as if you are sampling. The culprit is there
Its not going to be anything that boosts efficiency right? Since efficiency is similar on both pics
But i cant think of things other than efficiency
hi, how do i unlock the wishing lamp?
C7
Just to make sure. The image is on same ML layer right?
gem package to get it
balanced fr
Yeah same layer. Pic is few hours old so im different ML layer now but that worse char is still worse
You cant compare like that
Diff ML layers have diff eff req so easily can be the difference
? I said its same ML layer
Your sentence can be read both ways. Sry. Sry but i cant really help much more - these find the needle difference in haystack is /shrug
Guess ill just not use that char for mining for now - at least you reminded me about attacks on simmer, thanks
What armor should I use on w5 boss? I'm a beast master
Any armor lol. I used Dementia Gear but as long as you can deal damage, you don't really have a lot of damage to dodge.
@solar drift we still good in 8 minutes?
skillign gear good nuff. make best you can.
pre sure i beat w5 boss with the pope looking w3 hat and a wooden spear on my bubo
yes
might be less people but we are still 3-4 man iirc
so it doesnt matter :D
Fr fr, definitely balanced
I’ve never seen something so mid in my life honestly
not sure size matters after +3 anyways
i can ping them again in this server if they mute the other one let me see
ye but taking everyone is not bad
if possible obv
@warm path @frank prairie @fierce cargo @peak verge @grand scarab
HAPPY HOUR
ace is probably still sleeping since today hh is actually 2 hour earlier than usual 
So what god did you guys sync for the hole bonus?
idk where you at but for most people that finished 2100 level in lab already
they main link 9 character to Bear
omni harrieep with 10 bear links
1 guy to Purrmep most likely es because they can have 4 links
and pocket doot harpier + omni/everyone else
i take it were a bsust?
we got 2 other
thats why i said we are good, come to hjappy hour
@simple wadi are you life is strange'
so i need 2 more E right its e28? for the final super bit? did get a 5% nugget gain today
you can do it earlier but just take longer obv
ahh okay im just chilling at eyes let me know when to tp just lighting up
you can come
im life is strange
let me know when your just waiting on me
almost at explorer 7
im waiting a bit for mirai rn
ooo i am so rdy to open stuff today
forgot i saved flurbo incase the whole used em for upgrades
i left cause i was desyncd and got to engi 9
rdy?
ye
If you're linked, you get the minor bonus.
Passive bonus from the god being equipped
This fucked me yesterday. Didn't get to rethrow lol
I had it written down, but my dumbass went and looked ingame. Because I couldn’t remember which one that was(passive bonus or the blessings) LMAO
i dont under stand how i still do no damage in the dungeons. must learn the stuff, my crit and damage are maxed in the shop
where horn?
dungeon is literall, reach rank 40, coin flip
If horn , you do damage.
If not horn, no damage.
horn?
it just wasnt starting not sure why
it started after life is strange left tho autmatically >.<
idk why it wasnt starting but i closed my game
sometiems you need to leave the party, form your own party, leave that individual party, and rejoin the main group's party
it acts as if you are in phantom party of your own prevent it from working
so forcing a true solo party and leaving it often can fix that issue
i see
things you learn as you run happy hours - all the ways its broken
just need an auto use feature xD
or custom: use x amount 🙂 but that'll never happen
drop chance bonus from wormhole talent of ES works on all mobs around in map or only on wormhole mobs?
You guys start?
Hello, is there still speedrun trick that u swap character to not let the timer count?
So correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the initial meta shift is one point into idleon majik, pick arctis, and everyone goes to bravery
hmm
wondering when I should go for the 3rd improvement method
seems like its not worth it yet?
how do the summoning offerings work? and is there any good ways to get xp/hour up so im not getting 1
Divinity is just slow like that at the start. as you get more levels, unlock new gods, get sailing artifacts, you'll be able to increase it. this is why the advice at the start is to throw all your characters on the altar so you can get past the initial hurdle sooner rather than later
due to increasing costs and lower odds, generally shouldn't attempt them until you have the engi bonus to increase odds on each failure attempt
cool. thanks
is DK the best for fighting hounds? or bubo?
start hard pushing mithril xD that 3rd upgrade is quite huge
I have mithril already, just doesn't seem like upgrading theodds /w mithril really helps that much
3rd upgrade is with gaming points right
your upgrading your speed xD odds are stuck till a later upgrade from engi
I get that, it just barely upgrades the speed
seems better spent just ringing the bell
Just got ancient fury relic, what should my highest prio skill books be?
the ones scoli tells you to buy
How exactly does the pocket divinity work In The hole? Does the link bonus apply to all characters?
All
Tentacleye on bubo
A lot of people are running harriep+Omni
lol question about the new cavern update -- for cavern one, it's the well, and my bucket has 52/100 rocks, but i need 1.05k for the next opal... how do i collect it or am i supposed to upgrade it at the campfire guy until the bucket can hold more LOL
Yes. Upgrade capacity.
ok cool ty :)
Would I get more hours in if I set more than 1 character here?
(I.E.: I'm trying to reach the 80 hour tab and set all 10 of my characters where the monument is. So if I come back 8 hours later, I'd unlock the 80 hour tab? (10 character * 8 hours AFK = 80 hours passed))
I shudder to think of trying to get all 24k hours in with ONE chr.
just be aware that monument hours (like fractal in w2) always rounds down. so 2 hr 1 min = 2 hr. but 4 hr 59 min = 4 hr. so try to claim after a full hour if you are close
PS: I recomment keeping some warris on motherload early to get some easy stacks of ore bucket/rate. Falls off overtime and lessworth it, but early on its nice.
is this like king doot or smt?
Pretty much, will allow 2 extra gods.
so what will happen if i got doot?
doot lite
ooooi see
15% all stat per level if you have doot
so i cant use all 8 togather?
oh ok ty
can i apply all 8 here?
You can apply any god you have unlocked already but only 1 at a time
I don't understand my buff, can someone explain pls?
Nwh that would cause huge uproar to doot owners
Some of us aren't fortunate enough for that😞
Right now Lava imo perfectly balanced it
Non doot get a huge QoL and dooters get some decent all stats afaik (didnt test the actual amount)
3 links is great as you no longer need to wait a week for a full sample run
Later cavern
i see
(eventually 2 at a time)
Yeahhhh i wish I had that already
with the power of money/gems you could 
I have 400 gems😪
And i don't want to spend my money on this game😭
i refuse to spend more than the like 6 dollars i spent on auto loot as well
Oh ok thx
If you hp snap, you can prob get it
Go full hp cards star signs etc (look for herus samples in w6 pins) - zone into copper then swap to your main mining sample setup
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
spending money on the game supports lava guys
is this for every char?
or for the specific char you use it on
Every char
Just got snail. How does it work and which bonuses affect it?
how does the bear god work all my characters are linked to it but they are still not apart of the lab mainframe.
Snail only affected by atom upgrade buff.
It works as it says it works. It's a big buff but nothing complicated about it besides don't F up and reset it
Has anyone tried renewing the bell in cavern 5 yet? Does the cost increase or is it fixed?
You sure they are ALL linked to it? Screenshot?
When they are linked then they will show in lab even when not physically there. Nothing fancy to it
Yeah they should be there with the blue power button symbol, while still being able to connect to nodes
How do I get mail?
1 daily, and when you upgrade snail it gives % chance to get more than 1 daily
Snail is a SLOW upgrade because it's so strong
Ah ok thanks, and is there some rule of thumb on how to balance the 2 upgrades?
i have the pet where all of them are active and each one of them are linked here ill show
It's a gamble no matter what. IDK what others do but I upgrade the top one until there's only a 10% chance of reset or a higher chance of success that i'm ok with
Where is the conjurer found at?
this is what my lab looks like
They are all linked they just have short lines
Yeah u should level them in lab
but its not giving me the bonuses.
Laying on the ground in cave 4 i think? Maybe 5
Alright thanks
Which bonuses?
The bonuses are highlighted, so you're getting them.
Ahh, I guess it must be 5. I'm in 4
faster refine time and 3d print and the alc sigles
my 3d prints r not blue refine times still take normal amount of time and i cant use sigles
Show us your 3d prints
when i swap characters i see this tho
Weird
That happens because you swapped characters? Did you change any characters physically in the lab, like your bubo?
if i have the pet that makes all 5 active how does it work it just says i am linked to both at all times
--- This is wrong -- deleting it
Maybe because you have some characters who are both in lab and on the arctic god?
Linked to 'both' what? be specific plz this looks like a specific problem we need details to help with
i have the pet king doot which makes all 5 divinities active it says
Oh that too
What character were you on and what did yhou switch to
when i am on my bubo and i go to my lab
i see this
but when i swap characters to say like my siege breaker it all disappears
- you for sure have Doot pet?
If so, are those guys ALSO connected to arctis (bear)? unconnect them if so.
IDk, probably not. If they ahve doot then you don't need them connected so UNconnect them to test it
It's a spaghetti code assumption that may be possible
If you have doot, you are experiencing this because all of your characters are not minimum div level 2
oooooh the mini div lvl
ty kaito for popping in lol
put all your peeps on div for like an hr lol
so all my characters need to be div lvl 2 for the buffs to work?
For doot to apply anything they aren't connected to, yes
They don't ALL need to be level 2, just the ones you want to receive doot buffs
but like why not just put them all on alter for an hr 🤷♂️
If your active char isnt level 2 - doot deactivates - its to prevent non w5 accounts from benefitting
How do I increase the capacity of the Well?
the bucket cap?
Engineering has a bonus that allows expansion
ok thx
Yea. It says I need to give 1000 stones for an opal. But I can only keep a few
Monument is the storyteller in the hole
The big statue in the fourth cavern
ah that guy
Am I suppose to stack all my characters at the monument to get more afk hours collect into it??
Does anyone know if there is any specific majik i should focus or should i just put it wherever i put the first point i got in Idleon majik, im refering to the cosmo npc in caves. 🙂
depends on your need but yes
i might have to make a pasta for this.
if you are not lvl 2100 lab yet, i would recommend to jail the mage in lab and warrior/archer in bravery
warrior will have to go to motherlode from time to time to unlock the layer, which is ~20 soft cap right now aka hard to get even for endgamer
and ofc if you want to active on any of the char then just active with him, in the end bravery is just another lab jail but with a gimmick that you "should" only collect afk gain when is close to the hour
like dont collect afk gain if is 1:50h
you will lose 50 minute of afk
finally done 
current setup from me who already got atleast 2100 lab level if you are interested
2100 lab level .-.
total lab level
Yeaaaahh that's gonna be a while
is also just a opinion, because depends on your account you need to backtrack a lot also
Bubo will carry you hard later on
because he share exp to the lowest guy
That’s why bubo should 24/7 in lab unless you active with him for water (cc=cranium cooking)
His afk gain is worse than most for pushing portal that’s why
- he’s faster pushing active anyway
it will go up just take time :)
2-3 months ago my bubo get 10k lab exp iirc, now he get 500k
with divinity am i better off saving up for the more expensive gifts?
spam low always unless you get 100
is there something that these should be focused on?\
could use it to get all of vman skills up
What is the recommended note break down for 4 strings?
Have you tried playing wonderwall
missing the G note, can't play wonderwall sadly
Swap around depending on what you need
how can u boost div xp gain?
Anyone know what the bucket max cap is without uber expander?
if anyone can explain me the bucket plz. it says fil rate 89 per hour. been oflline for 9 hours for a party. get back on, "59 stones". i am missing something obvious but for the life of me cant seem to focus on what i am missing.
do you have the expander on?
"expand full bars" yes
that would be my guess as to what happened
No, but you need to online for it to expand
so for as far as i am getting it, your bucket fills offline, but the bars expander takes half and only does 1 lvl of expanding if you are ofline.
So it probably expanded as soon as you came online, and you were left with 75 stones
had 59, nw 75
Left with 50 I mean
so it is going up.
so i lost all that because bucket has not expanded enough.
okok, i am slowly getting there :p
thx in advance.
You want to be online as much as possible for it to expand
If your cap is low and you afked for long time, it’ll only have expanded 1x. It’ll only continuously expand if you are online
Even if it’s just occasionally checking the mobile app
ok, now i get it. it thought it went to max and then just added up
but it goes to max and bucket fll is bucket full.
and if you have expand on, it doe sit the sec you come online . loosing haalf your stones
so for a 300 stone upgrade you need to have expanded a lot of times
100 - 150 - 225- 335- 505
I did some rounding on the last 2 because I’m not sure what the game actually sets it to
so when boss farming for gems, does it count your boss kills or ow many gems have dropped? does drop rarity impact hhow fast you can gather them, or does DR actually increase potential gem earnings?
300 boss kills ~ averages to around 220 gems
DR has no impact since the value/odds are entirely solely dependent on w1 merit level
It counts boss kills. I don't think the gem chance is affected by anything other than the merit.
cool, thanks!
Smh kaito jinxing me
i'll just let it chill when cranium cooking
i'll get there
thx alot
Im seeing people jumping into the well? How do i do that?
Its just lava being lava and having fun. Its just people entering hole. They’ll see you doing same if you dropped in
I was so confused, clever lava
Hi how does the statue in cave 4 work? I just says I am not worthy
Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.
Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).

idk whats confusing about it tbh..
either way i should change the kids face to the bravery statue
Initially it just said "Ring the bell" but as usual it turned out to be "AFK and make the bar go full" lol
Should I save up for any of these
The 2x xp is pretty good & some early conjuror points are amazing if you don’t have doot
Wouldnt buy any laterns or opals
do the lanterns progress "paying respect" or just the 20hr timer?
They do progress it
not paying respect tho right?
i assumed that worked like motherlode
I havent tested it myself but ive seen people say it gives paying respect progress
i might test after myboss farm, ill reply if i do
So you need 30 million with es to beat the boss in 5-10 minutes (according to the guide) how much would be like the minimum you would need on es
Is there a way that we could reset the multiplyer from the hell hounds clicked it so many time thinking it would just reset after going to max now I cant even fight the hell hounds and can not change the multiplyer
try to read what it say
Hold it down I think it says
oh thank you sooooo much
30 million is recommended for a reason. It pretty close to the minimum.
welp i now know not to throw all my swords at once cause the rethrows dont trigger the way i thought lol
Lot of people learning hard way today
So don’t feel bad
any way to increase the minimum dmg to decrease the chance of getting shafted by rng? yesterday i got fucked by rng and then today i couldnt get past 1k hp on these stats actually lame as hell how little room there is to do any sort of skill expression, feels like playing slots with that wide of dmg range
Not really. I would never push passed ~2x max sword damage. No point risking it when its an infinite grind
i mean i had done the previous one with just 3 sword, none needed more than 1 or 2 before that, really didnt think i would get woyfted that hard by rng to not get 1k in 5 plus rethrow
is there a preffered map for farming golden hampters?
What is the Bell #2 upgrade resource? The blue stuff
Am I tweaking
If no one answered, I am pretty sure it is 29.2k
My bucket doesn’t fill up 144 an hour
It fills up like 10 an hour
Do you have to be active for the bucket to fill up properly?
You have to be active, for it to expand and continue I believe. It shouldn't need to be online for it to dig though.
just remember Max Dmg x 0.4 x 5(sword count)
in your case 695x0.4x5 = 1390
if the enemy have more hp just run away
yea mmax dmg sure, but is there no way to close the gap like dmg mastery? it just makes it so there is so much potential for you to just get nothing because of bad slot game pull
ye thats why you want to play it safe and just leave
then you should have used your 5 sword rethrow
Gaming has slowed a lot, any help?
wait until the first sword is throwen and if is ~below 40% reroll it
i did , that was not enouigh dmg, the rethrow needed 500+ and couldnt get it
yes because you didnt rethrow the bad one most likely
they were all bad?
because if everything was ~40% it would have been 1390 dmg
i guess in this case you got fully shafted, shit happens 
So there is nothing on the wiki for the hole so that's why I'm here asking what do I do with this guy
same shit yesterday iz what i am saying though, why no way to close gap? it is just a daily slot pull, kinda lame
Is that for the first Rock?
or do you just not know how to?
theres no current way to increase min dmg my guy
damn that fucking blows, lazy lava leaning into rng as always
It doesn't out right say afk on this character for 1 hour I thought i had to have a certain class or something
the text will appear for every character you talk to the statue....
Well I guess it does but not a straightforward
he said swap to a different character so you can start the 1h afk
then come back later
becauuse 90% of idleon player have 0 reading comprehension
Still need help
it say literally what you have to do
swap character -> come back to the same character in 1 hour
literally nothing else
I didn't realize that I thought i had to do something else for it not afk and I had to try back in an hour on that character to try again
Its like failing a open book test.
i mean is the same thing with resetting amplifier 
Read my last message
And are you suppose to survive the dogs?
I get to the end of the fear and then die
That's correct
You defeat as many dogs as you can and gets point for it. Once you can't defeat them anymore they generate fear -> Full fear = the expected ending, dying, ending the run
I don't take any damage from them until they disappear when the fear bar is full
No damage = get the amplifier higher for a higher score. Higher score = more opals
What amp would you suggest for me?
