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same here

i havent been doing my boss runs because it stops the farm grind
Yeah let me go set a 17s timer every kill
soon im free from charm
probably gonna finish all permanent upgrade and then gamba for chip/ hyper obol / ruby cardifier
noice. I think I had used ES cause it was my only class pushed to that map when I did wave 50 lol. but I didn't setup my towers in front of portal - put most of them at the back closer to tower
cool, well managed to get it to 70 so ill def take that lol
i'm so down bad for gems i'm considering active farming w4 for boss keys just because w5 keys are too rare
How to level up god rank?
It's more like 12 from my experience
same way you unlock gods
The left option is 1/5/10% and right is 25/50/100%, randomizes when you click a button
do you have the last map in w5?
It's all RNG and all the options are the same price per %, as in: 100% is 100x as expensive as 1%
yea my bubo was only getting like 400 keys a day being there 24/7 tho
literally go there with dk and active farm and keys wont be a problem
how you getting so few? ๐ฎ
dk is the key guy
I thought I wasn't getting many but I get mroe than that lol
low drop rate i guess, only 11x
iirc you need to wait longer than 15 seconds or farming timer will stop
crops wont grow in boss runs
rofl how in the world are you supposed to find that out
i think its all w6 skills
when your crops grow in 10-20 min you tend to notice when you have nothing to harvest after an hour
like i just found out yesterday that you can ruby bandit bob card without cardifiers
well i hope you didnt cardifier it
nice
gotta do funny number ๐
someone stop xiepo
snail is gonna stop me soon
undocumented features fr
more fun than clicking cogs at least
wait til you get instant gaming in w5 town. x will be speedy gonzales unstoppable
you are laughing kaito, but hes speedrunning nuggets
kinda pass on w5 town gaming im only doing this cuz its quick ref
5s gaming dont work in w5 town iirc
yes, that's why he said instant 
Its fun to do for like 5 min once you get to that point - then it starts hurting having to constant click and get graphic bombed by expanding circles
me after seeing edvin on glassy already
I wont be getting instant gaming before finishing farming am I
or at least very close to that
I donโt stay up that late lmao
ok i got it to 5x i stop here
for people who weren't sitting on w5 for a while when w6 dropped, you'll need around 150ish? crops to hit instant gaming
I was messing around with the spreadsheet seems i will need at minimum 140 but probably 150+
I feel like my progress is all over the place I'm pretty far in somethings and still lagging behind in others
even though I kinda try to do everything
!gear
if i get around 100k per hour on afk kills with my barb in w1, is it worth candying through the world to progress for void quest?
huh?
have you done your gmush kills on maestro?
maestro to void walker requires 1mil death note kills on w1-w2-w3 i think
i havent, is that something that comes as a followup quest after the 1m kills deathnote thing?
ah, yeah, i forgot they were all separate quests, sorry for the spoiler 
yeah, up to you. vman is def worth it, but depends on how much candy you have. also if you're only getting the 100k in W1 then might just be better to throw multiple people at it
hmmm, i dont have enough candy to cover w2, w3, so ill just work slowly i suppose
idk how i jumped 330%
might as well throw your maestro on gmush now, too
still same % on artifacts so I didnt even notice
it just needs to have 1m kills in gmush?
12m i think
12
time to gamble some cosmics 
though, you could also wait until your w1 is done with the 1m
since all those bonuses will help your maestro
i guess its manageable
cheater
imma just forget about the maestro for a week or so
doesnt do much for lantern anyway
is this even worth it
i ain't bout that interactive life
gonna take me like a year i think
how far are you in sneaking
wdym i just hit the doors and they open
how do i check that
what nunchucks are u usin
the purple ones
no like level
lvl ~95 sneaking..like 40-50
if its taking too long just go back and get better ones???
i mean you can farm on the rosarie floor
Nunchucks have crazy jumps in power - and they make a huge difference, this will start becoming more and more important as you progress in mastery
An x level nunchuck vs a x+2 level nunchuck can easily be hours or days of difference
so do kunai do anything at all now that i untied everyone
yes you have to untie the boss at the end of mastery floor
!gear
Is getting the console box worth it or should I just focus on upgrading everything else before I get that
Don't save up for it imo. Poing is gonna give you maybe 1.2 - 2.5x multi. Get it whenever it is "cheap"
Kitty rock, Squirrel, Shovel
Thank you
Always buy base bit value if possible. That's ~7% more bits each level 
OH, yeah, sorry. I was speaking strictly about Imports ๐ Fertilizer always good
Silly Scoli 
is that enough for W5 boss?
One of my alts is up to leeks now @bleak gazelle
yuge
time to do w6 TD
Nope not going to happen @bleak gazelle
what i need 35M? @_@
just about, should be able to do it with 30m if you want to take 5-7ish minutes. can go a bit lower if you want to take longer
i'd say like 23-25m(?) is probably the floor though
well i really would love to have 35M damage
i just dont know where to go anymore lol
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
Talent allocation is a big thing too, you can use this for when you're ready to fight Kruk
https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png
would you prefer a captain with loot chance/speed or rare chest/speed?
loot is best long term, speed is best for early-game
i guess i could have phrased it loot value or rare chest ha
thanks for your response
is there a video of how 5 second gameplay looks like? according to the speed sheet i should be blastin and pushing nuggets. but it is slow as hell and i would rather drink acid than click 1 single plant every 5+ seconds
oh, just realized the blue 
No way you have either 5s or instant with only 54 crops
add % on purrmep
thank you for the link. hmm nothing like that at all. 1 single pop up every 5+ seconds for me
kitsune on and you're not in w5 town?
thank added % behind purrmet. it corrected a lot, but 5 s gaming w Kitsune on shoud still be a thing
try cloudsaving or something I had it not work sometimes
thank you. i will further try things out. cloudsaving / restarting the game did not do the trick yet. but one step closer โค๏ธ
do you even sleep xiepo
are you sure you have the lab jewel? cuz I tried your inputs and thats the difference between getting it and not
or maybe its not connected
no
Do you even enjoy life xiepo
i enjoy idleon 
Lmao fair enough
X saw edvin have glassy seeds - and now canโt sleep until they catch up 
i mean having timer is op
im just enjoying the fact that im not getting 10k anymore
why didnt i think of that before
you are a giga chad with perfect critical thinking. me moron does not has the jewel, it is the last one im missing, toggling that, i am only at 99,3 % at 5 second gaming.
youre catching up to fast can you stop
get a few upgrades and youll be there
i need to be ahead by a few weeks on you
Crazy how xiepo has had game for less than 3 months
not that crazy if you consider im on my pc for like 90% of the day
im not really efficient just carried by the fact that I have infinite time rn
Like you leave it active for 90% of the day, or you are actually playing the game 90% of the day
I hope you at least turn your monitor off
i mean it turns itself off after a while, does that count
Otherwise you are going to burn โAuto/Attack/Item/etcโ into your screen
so thats what that is
new update seems massive
Hopefully
feels like its gonna be like a mini town with multiple different mechanics
ive just about grasped all the current ones not exactly ready for more but Ill take it
Hey all, I uploaded one of my characters into the lab and it is no longer gaining divinity (I have doot companion, but goat god is not unlocked yet). Am I doing something wrong?
so long as your characters are lvl 2 divinity to have the effects active ... just be aware that the divinity altar UI only displays information for characters specifically doing divinity, it won't show folks who are utilizing goat in lab
Ahhhh ok, that must be it. I am looking at the divinity altar UI
how does one know if they have instant gaming
i keep harvesting and full board keeps spawning
only happens outside w5 town
yes, speed matters, but crops give the biggest chunk of speed afaik
hmm i guess whats the one before instant? 5s gaming?
I indeed have 5 second gaming
does snehebatu work on divinity worship in any capacity?
Do things like pet power and rarity affect dna given upon trashed pet?
Can you show night market
No

Step 1 get to level 80
Step 2 farm magic beans
Step 3 sell magic beans
Step 4 farm magic beans
Step 5 sell magic beans
Am I right
yes
highest evo mush
i got like 300-400 beans a day
i still feel i under did my upgrades
my speed can be higher
20 min glassy just feels a little slow
compared to my 30 minute harvests of basics - bulbo lol
wheres my achievement
Shut
Me rn
Stuck at final summoning battle
Can't figure out how to progress farming
Hard stuck at M1F7
Truly the moment of all time
So I just grow sushi until level 80?
yes highest evo sushi
make sure you are running the starsigns for extra xp and extra evo
i would say OG is not as important as the other 2 in case you want to run another starsigns
I'm under the impression that OG starsign works the same as cooking/construct starsign which is that it only applies while on active chara
I am inevitable /j
Crap I ran crop value land ranks
So you will always get the same amount from each egg no matter what?
A random value from 2-6 which cannot be changed iirc
Dang. My cooking speed is so far ahead of my breeding upgrades
same
when will it end
hi w5 cog 4 friends, i'm recruiting for happy hour again in dice 20 atm
we are 2/10, looking for more
If i already got 10 characters, and i am missing two starting hats for slab, i'm done?
Got doot today, does this mean even when no one is in lab i still get divinity points?
no

yeah its not worth spending money on lol... yet
what's the best map for cranium cooking for the equinox bubble before reaching tremor wurms? I've tried on citringes but I'm 5k seconds short
would more multikill/kill bonuses boost that?
no but crystals help
still waiting for choco rotation 
get more points in the bubble or higher book lvl
is crystals 1 extra kill?
i guess so yea never really thought about that
im just assuming it counts like the normal mobs
well, got an extra 1% on the bubble, probably wont be enough but doesnt hurt to try again
wow, got it, super close though
thanks for the tips
nice
I can confirm is 1 extra kill, choco and chocoless is 1/3rd extra time difference
done with breeding 
1/3 is such a massive difference sigh lab chips being on rotation is such painful game design
what about shinies?
Dunno
How do I VMan? or rather, How do I get me some much needed damage tier because this guy has that one damage up talent and that's it. WP doesn't even make much of a difference
lame
That's the neat part you dont
Well I guess I should've had some idea of what I was getting into when I saw that 7 blocks difficulty rating
U still need 1 anyways
yea it's helpful, but I really don't think I can get past my current 21 without 1000%mk/t
21 portals?
yeah, that's my current record
Ah what's your vman damage then
5.3-14M
Vman benefits from general boosts eg. Summoning
So there is no quick fix to damage
Just do the normal stuff and watch damage go up
Can sailing somehow "fail"? My ships haven't been bringing back chests
No?
did you by mistake raise the minimum chest quality?
Honestly I forgot that existed lmfao
it happened to me not long ago and was hella confused too, it's very understandable
Gonna check wait
Yup that was it actually. Must have tapped it by accident earlier today

How does this multiplier work? Is it on top of every other bonus I have?
yes, thats why its not as important as snail or nugget since it only ends up at around 2-3x even with very big highscores
What a lovely day to try and get the w4 splicer recipe
nice
i would give my doot for some pancakes rn
@warm path @solar drift is this right
i need 352 shiny to reach ratio? seems wrong
i dunno how to use this i'm dumb
idk i kept mine at 100 cuz thats what they say
they said that after ๐ฆ
just ignore it and pump the others?
i dont do roo alot so
i just divide my points by 6 put that amount on green/blue and rest on red
never seen that spreadsheet
It really isn't. This shit won't drop for the life of me.
ive seen people with 1k+ on tar and shiny so its not that bad
i smelt sarcasm so i responded with sarcasm
Oh.
well I assume at that point you want to do normal resets to farm more points
anyways just park your toons at octodars for overnight and the recipe will imediately drop no cap fr
Letting active ES there.
i now farm recipes with my 331% afk gain sb
i have 2 recipes left
im only at 5 elclectic
r/ihadastroke
yea werid word
well you just went over limit as xiepo said but is not that bad, you usually should follow:
Blue : 1x / Yellow : 100 cap / Green: 1x / Red: 4x / Gray: 200 cap
lag too much clicking clogs
@warm path
fckn mini games
mining wouldn't be half as bad if a) hitbox wasn't terrible and b) you could go huge stretches w/o a single ore to slam
Sir this says 95k not 955k 
Wait a minute do I need to god shenanigans on all my characters !?
any ways I can make it less painful? took me like a week to get first god on the mage
I dont know what doot is . . .
when you get to w5 you usually just want to to put every toon on the altar
and doot is a op (p2w and so on) companion
it let you have all god buff at the same time
Alright When I got to W5 I only did my ES and that's it
ye thats wrong
Ahh Wish I'd knew about this sooner
I think I see it now
Unlocking gods is account wide, but each character should and will need to individually level up their divinity level. Each individual can be linked to a god as well (ES can utilize a 2nd link through polytheism talent, see first ๐ ).
Well Time to forget about this game for a while
But you should definitely read the primer linked in second ๐
either that or second route is getting second god ( arctics/bear) and rush to w6
thats ofc only possible when you have the dmg to get to w6
~30m on es/dk
for unlink, you CAN unlink multiple character at the same time
just click on multiple character when trying to unlink
you have 2 unlink every week after every new god unlock it reset
Ohh soo I cant switch all willy nilly I think to think and wait inbetween then
yes thats why doot is broken
hmm having an odd bug, cant click the research button. just did a cloud sync+restart and still nada. plants growing just fine and the other stuff functions but not this
later on there are set up for sampling or speedrunning on vman
maybe you already unlock every plant ?
cheater
oh snap I wasnt even paying attention lol. gotr chemplant just a minute ago xD

jesus christ
I mean who pays attention to spamming .1% after all XD
Do I want to Wait for better odds or Gamble all the way?
you can just wait for 50%
u can gamble
or gamba so the right side go to 100%
Ohh Right side incease with failed left side's ?
and then gamba more yes
or just increase in general when fail ?
also left sides but whatever
yes
Alright
yes
Ohh I think I fucked up I should not spamm Left side but wait and see if I get the 100% roll
when you unlocking normal god i would just recommend to: gamba on left side until right side is 100% then get 100%
later on there will be god rank and the amount of divinity point you need per try is to much, you should jus gamba
theres also a bubble that give you chance to not consume divinity point when trying
yea early on the 100% are cheap so just roll till there is one and build up
o7 Alright think I got the gist of it atleast
I'll check in and ask more questions in a week or 3 XD
only god rank 3 and 1% cost 104m and 25% cost me 2.6b
100% would cost me 100b
finally 
Where do you find the "overaccurate crit" talent book
mega crit ? dungeon shop
Yeah
VIP library
oh this one is from vip
Since its friday, iโll gloss over this horrible math error :3
i cant get 25k
why do i suck at everything
wait why i just round it up
Iโll give you a second
ah is 10b
2.6b for 25% would be 2.6b*4 = 100% friend
lol yup, forgiveness friday
no u
nerd
ill dm u my account shiro u know what to do
mini game ?
i could probably only do catching, mining and fishing
i dont really like chopping and gaming ye....if lava ever fix the lag
bah another dupe pet
Thinking about it shoud I have my 8'th alt (DK) Push for 9th slot ?
I'd tell you if Game didnt Turn White on me DX
because if you account is rushed -> just go to w5 first map -> use some candy and you get lvl 250 char fast enough
I dont have anyone past 200
then just go to w5 map look at your survivalability
if you cant reach 100% get some food
Believe my highest atm is my SB at 180
250 is a little too ambitious for w5 map 1 , thats more w6. Should easily get to ~120-130
oh really ? .-.
i though getting 250 was normal at w5, because i was ~200 at w4 when starting w5
Most folks will hit ~200-250 candying to end of w5, not at map 1
oh damn
also depends a lot on which parts you rushed vs not
This is my Roster ATM
well you heard em, my only recommendation now is use either ES or DK to push w5
and prepare for next week choco chip if you havent
choco CHIIIIIIIIIIIP
Mmm My ES on Divininty Duty atm and both My DK's are not ready to push W5 atm
SB is the best I got atm
Bear first alright
very important
used to have them but not anymore with everyone praying away
at what level of evolution does the 6th stage unlock in gaming, anyone remember? or is it unlocked via some other means
important one to unlock with bear
yes thats why you wnt to have bear
Ngl I dont even know what Bear does
makes lab work = divinity worship
your character will be active in lab even when they are not uploaded
oh wait that one
and later one you want to switch to Goat
that one let you stay in lab but also getting exp / poitns from divinity
so 2 in 1 which is really nice
that another god?
yea
and thats why i said before if you have the companion "doot" w5 is such a big upgrade
doot is so wonderfully broken
yeah I dont I got lucky with the Sheep chest but that's about it ATM
sheep is also amazing
its been a godsend for me
Wish I had it when I Was getting back to the game after being gone for abour 2-3 years
but what can I do
satanic dmg ftw
fastest statue farm is probably at minichef but lantern give you lantern so decide
huuuuge
finally in to late w6 . we getting there finally
noice. on DK with full DR setup?
cards, obols, gear. das about it for DK I think. Noice
hell yeah. Your obol farm is 100% done I assume right?
i don't have family drop rate
your family page isn't stuffed with DR? ๐ฆ
Noooooooooooo what's your total bonus show for DR?
I meant this:
With your hyper dice you can prob hit 190% something from family alone. So you should be at like 325-330% since you hit lv5000 family slot unlocked if you went full DR
You need to reroll some stuff on personal page. Should be at 134 w/ all rerolls for personal
On family, you just need to use dice instead of hex pop. remove your hyper dmg and put sparkle dice in there (when DR farming)
๐คท Idk anything about the hyper obols. I think they can reroll but assume it's still just a +1%
nice
ooo much better today now for CC, last was 105k now 120k
make sure your skills are in the right order
fuck i forgot obols
good reminder
sheeesh I need to catch up
big. CC will vary btw just by luck of tenteyecle proccing, crystal spawns, etc. But just wait until you're cooking at wurms 
yea Im actually about to try that now again. got a lot of meal upgrades and a few others since yesterday so dmg might be good enough now
ooooo I think its working out now, just gotta wait for CC cooldown
lol hey there big boi
hmm not quite there yet, but very close
Does mobile overflow screw gaming up at higher tiers? I thought I was crazy when I went from 18* -> 19* suddenly my bits basically became stagnant for the 2 weeks it took to get from 19* -> 20* . I could have sworn I was gitting ~1T per lowest crop, then it turned to Billions
Now that I'm 20* my lowest crop is giving me 900M
did they change color, perhaps?
is 1 red bit, 1000q green
artifacts are worse than w2 dungeon
of course they are.....
how high does my poison td have to be to do 6x 120+
got acorn to 130. so hopefully this is enough for the rest
Nope still red
idk how this just keeps going up
Its really hard to advise on anecdotal feelings of what you recall - especially cause 90% of time when people recall things, i.e. i didnt change anything, nothing changed, only this happened - something else also occurred
If you bit multi is still in correct range, not sure what else to say unfortunately
only thing i can think of is if you reset snail, because I don't think anything else that affects bits can decrease, yeah?
well dk talent
Havent heard of any overflown issues relating to bits/gaming yet so why i think issue lies somewhere else
but I doubt its been on the wrong preset for a week
yeah, that'd be the only other thing
what about lab node ?
or maybe vial doubler node in lab being disconnected
yes, but you can't lose progress on slab
Yea all those are prime suspects - iโm guessing its any combination of the above
Active ES for hampters?
Literally the most important question of the day: In Gaming, does the squirrel give diminishing returns the later you collect the nuts? Or does it stack linearily and after a long gaming session i just click it in the end?
it have a diminishing returns iirc but better than shovel
there's a few factors that affect that
but ideally you click often
if you're chem chaining then you should be hitting shovel/squirrel every time, maybe log, too
log
if you're chaining before 5s gaming, i would definitely use log
up to you if you're in the 5s window to do it
probably depends on your nugget
i usually only use log when im at 1-2 chem left and have time to keep going 
did the gaming skill got some nerf like 1/2 months ago? i've the feeling that i am getting less gaming bits since
How close to 5sec/instant gaming are you? An inconvenient consequence of all the speed we gained from farming has made it so that plants donโt evolve on their own without the use of chemplants/log game
i've heard about it, but am far i guess, dont know what is needed to get the 5sec
do you have a DK with gaming talents on the active preset?
are all your lab nodes lit up?
did you go from white to green or green to red bits?
my last nugget made me hate gaming its over
you lasted longer than most
lol
what is the purpose of chain chem planting, just evolution spamming for the shell and bits?
I should rephrase I guess that gaming currently feels heavily stagnated and not really sure why
and not even remotely close to getting passed green bits atm
Chem chaining is there to get more bits, nuts and nuggets. A chem plant gives me 25 / 36 hours of gaming progress and I get one basically every few seconds
You can (hopefully) see how waiting gets pretty useless, when you can get days of afk progress in a few seconds while being active
The nuggets and nuts are just a nice little bonus to increase your bits + speed even further
The goal is definitely to get all the Superbits. After that you can stop for now (or keep going like a psychopath
)
The last superbit is really good, since it increases all the Atom collider levels by 10
hmm That all makes sense, where I am lost at now is what I need to do to improve progression rate in gaming as it feels like just miniscule gains for the time required currently.
Note that nugget farming from chem chaining is basically dependent on having the Equinox "Metal Detector" bonus
def dont have that
like the fact that im limited to 5 evolutions for a plant seems like an indicator im missing some major stuff still
but I havent gotten an increase in that in like 50 levels lol
you get 3 evos from superbits, 1 from jade emporium, but without the speed to get them it doesn't really matter if you have them unlocked or not
hmm ok I see one of the superbit evos
2b, lol no where near that atm
err thats with stone on, normally
wait so thats 5 seconds without rock? ll jfc
like the shell etc
save up for the shell
so just keep leveling up shell for now
and snail
like with evos or with bits
those are all bug upgrades
I dont have a snail?
yea it's top left to your sprinkler
yea uhhh where do I get snail? isnt that a late w6 thing?
top left box
ohh that, 611b greens. that will take a year at this rate lol
There is some stuff outside of gaming that can increase your bit gain
Achievement give you 1.03x more bits for every achievement you have -> This is really good. Do your easy achievements
TD waves increases your bit gain once you unlock it in the Superbit section
The amount of items registered in your slab increases your bit gain once you get the Sailing artifact for it. This has 4 rarities so it can give a lot
Another Sailing artifact that gives you Bits based on your gaming level iirc
And in W6 the summoning skill can give you ~10x bit gain, but you are probably not there yet ๐ซก
Never forget the DK Talent either.
And technically that one Equinox upgrade Ace already mentioned, but this also requires actually doing gaming after you unlock it 
Ill check the achievement thing, certainly have a number done.
and just did a good push for TD recently so thats much better. I have the slab sailing artifact but not the other one. and I dont have the summoning bonus one either
I do have the DK talent active
wow the summong one is late, only just unlocked blue like yesterday
Row 4, column 3 for the Bit gains based on TD waves
oh yea just saw that on the wiki, so yea, not at all close to that either
It was +50% Bits per 10 total Wave, I think
Guess I just need to keep slogging and upgrading the shell and keep rock off now
by getting monolith, imo
otherwise could try the wave 200 strat? idk if there's enough time to ramp up
Ratter, Looter, Refill, Shield, Refill, Borger could also maybe work?
well I guess for now I'll just keep doing CC on bubo for the day heh
farming Ghosts sure is fun! I'm about 70% of the way for 10k golden cakes. Then I have another day or so of clammies for the pearler shells. Then I'll go 100k the nomwiches
oh, guess I'm in a decent spot for cakes later
tf
yup, that'll do
ok, I'm going to say it, Golden cakes actually suck for DR. There, I said it
i've had one SB on it for a while, then moved my other two archers there like 2 weeks ago, decided to throw my 2 ES on there last week too
So sometimes you just get huge boosts for gaming and the other times it's just slow?
Yeah, a lot of your gaming gains are tied to getting a new nugget or unlocking some other bonus that's not directly in gaming
Then you upgrade a bunch of stuff for a while, life is good, then you hit a wall
and it's back to waiting
Cause i felt like i hit a brick wall for like 2 weeks. I just unlocked the wooden log thing and that barely increased my gains
Thats where i'm at ig
The log can help you get a few extra nuggets and extra unlock chances for new plants. But without Chem plants it doesn't do much
here, have some chem plants. I keep neglecting my garden
lol thanks, I unlocked the evolution a couple hours ago, havent seen one show up yet though xD
botanical herpes, once you get one, you will never get rid of them
one thing no one told me when I first started on wurms when my bubo was just a wee baby, was that crystals would absolutely one shot me, even though I could one shot them, if they spawned on me they would kill me.
I had that issue initially as well but not now. I just cant one shot the wurms reliably so still need a bit more damage
I quickly used my newfound alchemy powers to be able to tank the crystals
I'm actually missing the 300M(Red) Plant Evo +1 Upgrade
and the crystal spawn chance helps with cycling a bit
am i doing something wrong with these guys being indestructible?
too many pickles
they have a ton of health, even more if you have pickles on you
I really wouldn't mind a new 10M+ nugget, I feel like I'm stuck at my current red T bits...
heh, mcurrent nugget is ~32k xD
ambitious
i am... like only just learning to tune things up a bit
so ... surprises everywhere... and i would love some pro tips here and there to finetune even more xD
ooooo well ill take that from the wurms, hah!
that there is the bonejoepickle HP calculator
Congratulations, a 3Bx HP Multiplier
just make a copy
if a drop is 1 in 333,333 and I afk to kill 333,333 mobs, am I guaranteed the drop? I want my w2 splicer 
no
but there is a calculator to get 'guaranteed drop' to happen
yes, for AFK kills, if you have enough raw kills, the drop is guaranteed. But good luck calculating your raw kills
I mean, The drop isn't affected by Multikill, first of all, second off, that is not how probability works
it does if you offline it all in one shot and you get enough kills
It is in this game if youโre afk. Itโs guaranteed
yeah i had a 17h afk on pincers and thought that was enough but then logged in and it was 332k and no drop 
but if multikill doesnt affect it then idk 
Itโs only base kills that count
yup, which makes it really hard to determine how long you need to afk, even the calculator isn't great at it
but DR DOES affect it
i mean, if you have any sort of DR just go active there on ES for maybe an hour or two and youll get it lol, its not that rare
in gaming, i just managed to get 400k red thingies for the skill buff, but i still dont have that chemical final mutation.. is there a trick to get that ? (at best i get like 0.8% chance long term)
Clear board, roll; use sprinkler, clear, roll; use log, clear, roll, use sprinkler, clear, roll
I just claimed at .1% or so for a few days.
o.o
you talking about the last evolution?
yes
full harvest pretty much gets you the .1% to try with
less chance, more often/chances is almost always the way to go for everything in the game
think you just have to sit on it and brute force it with chem trains
i havent gotten that far, would have to talk to someone like Xaya or them thats finished gaming
alright thank you guys... like i said im only picking up steam lately.. and i got growing pains haha. i only went from 150m logs to 550m logs in 3d printer recently
marc.idleonefficiency.com , feel free to laugh ๐
heh im way overdue for a resampling
if only people had voted for MINING next week ๐ก
hehe ๐ im trying to maximize multikill now , went from 3m to 4.5m green shrooms recently.. but i noticed my obols are ... awful xD
go do your mini bosses ๐ฎ
i tried !
i picked out on the lava ๐
boss keys another easy thing to do but not a huge deal
multikill obols 
yeah im saving them up for runs
pop/dice obols aren't rerolled, either 
I can't really criticize for that one... I'm not that big a hypocrite
you can reroll obols? Oo
wait. the fuck 
oh lawd lmao
ive played since day 1... so i didnt make the best choices when stuff came out
fair enough
i think you made the worst choice possible actually
it really do feel like that
well, you better make your prints incredible, if you are going to run 2 VWs, at least maximize those print CDs
please clean up some of these trash keychains 
i mean.. fair ๐
your max book level also seems really low?
at least you got 1 of each so it'll work out... eventually..
245.. i havent kept up on them. only lately i pushed with singular uses to 200+ on my chars..
i unlocked like 1/3 of my stamps like a month ago... so im... still way behind
anyone want to join hh
ah you havent gotten far enough in w6 yet for sov artifacts or the summoning bonus, that makes sense i guess
I would, but I actually burned through all my dungeon token things
not even 1 ticket left ?
not until reset
i stopped getting land rank exp for some reason or im buggin
anyone else ?
it slows down considerably later on
i can join if u want a 3rd I got like 8 runs I need to get rid of
lets go
are these useful at all? and if so,... where should i use them on?
server?
cog 4
they swap ur subclass
I got two overnight
as soon as dungeon started
classic
its crazy that i dont think ive ever white screened considering how much im on the game lol
happened a few times since i started it up a while back.. never had that issue in the past
bruh
glad that wasnt a 40 ticket run
W1
- Finish buying anvil points with mob mats on all characters
W2 - Drop all your gold balls into forge cap in arcade
- Spend PO Boxes
W3 - Finish off salt lick with critters
W4 - Redo your chips, full lab xp on a bubo that's fighting and full combat chips on bb that's cooking

- Use balloons/pearls to get to 500 cooking for Skill Mastery
W5 - Use the sailing section to upgrade your boats along speed/loot breakpoints
W6
*Sneaking - I only see a single gold charm in your inventory, make sure they're not equipped or go back to different floors to find them
I'd work on finishing Onyx statues, unlocking Cyan summoning battles, and getting to 1400 and then 2100 lab levels in prep for the W6 jewels you'll unlock via Jade Emporium
@bleak gazelle thank you โค๏ธ
@bleak gazelle i uhh... literally equipped all my gold charms.. thinking thats how they worked..
yeah tyhought the inv was the 2 last slots..
_>
didnt even know u could equip those
<- blonde ^^
just busting your balls, all good lol, easy fix
plus now you have a bunch of slots open that you can put new items in lol
yeah, thanks ๐ and im happy with this ball busting... i covered a tremendous lot these last 3 days.. in 6h sessions
went from top 50% to 25% in tome ^^
definitely a ton of helpful people in here if youre willing to actually listen lol, they helped me get from 10m damage to 1q damage in the last few months 
Follow this setup for sneaking items, too
#1208108939313684621 message
oh im definitely willing to listen ๐ and ive been following a lot of guides too. but there is a LOT ^^
@bleak gazelle will do ๐
I think my sb would be at like 100Q with artifacts done
which is never going to happen soo...
_>
is your name acecow? Of course you'll get all sov artifacts in no time
imma be on only lanterns soon, you better hurry up if you wanna beat me :p
yea i think im losing this one
not in the Q's yet ๐
i check sailing A LOT tbf >_>
do you think artifact chance updates or do I need to return my ships and send them again
well I am doing 1-2 hour claims all day
should auto update per roll id assume?
i check every 3 hours prob 6 times a day, plus doot procs
todays the day I get my first eclipse skull 
I ended up throwing the BM on the map too
Im trying to find something to do after lab grind is done
maybe I just put them on gmush
imma go for rank 1 lab 
Kinda want to farm dark lantern for 1 bag
ES startin to get up there in the DR setup ๐
almost 22x drop rarity x.x i cant get over 13
waiting for dr cloak pack to show up anytime now
thats full DR everything though tbf, cards/card set/obols etc
I'm stuck just shy of 26, I hadn't been using the DR prayer
ye thats without midas, you dont use midas on es i dont think tho?
well, I'm farming ghosts, I haven't tried comparing max wormhole between midas on and off
the mobs are so low level, I don't know if it will make much difference
oh ye something that low idk, might be worth since their hp is so low
my ES is at 15Q sheet dmg, killing moonmoons
im going to use some of my 500+ candies to catch up on some mob killings and multikill obols i think
might as well get my multikills to 100m+ ๐
Try it but I doubt it would be better
I used my candies to Eclypse skulls W4 and W5 ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I did use the two weeks of extra deathnote and afk voting to eclypse skulls all W6, though
guess this will catch me up a bit.. but phew long ways to go ^^
theyre more fun to hoard and never use
this is after finishing all eclypse skull and schows (except the roots, I refuse)
im a little more behind than you are though ๐
were about the same tbh, youre way ahead of me in some thing but behind in others some how lol
mhm, could be ๐ like... i got 180 ish in alchemy bubbles, but i never powerleveled any til last week
so ... im in a growth spurt of sorts ^^
ye, your stamps are a good bit higher than me too
alchemy is always my blindspot, my bubbles are trash
oh thats surprising ๐
just different things like that, its what makes this game interesting, lots of different paths for people to take
yeah runescape used to be like that like 15 years ago, its what i liked haha, people doing different stuff and the stats showing it
stamps I level in bursts, basically after getting more carry cap
lul bjorn's stamps
ive never left runescape from 15 years ago ๐ฆ lol
2 vmans was a big mistake, but for now it helps to have a combat and skilling vman to spread up the stat points.. until they're identical
bro i got so many stamp levels yesterday
i saw 
yeah, i saw your triple mmo names there
max ironman btw
always surprises me when people remember flyff
hehe ๐ i think lava was quicker with getting maplestory than me if he has it ๐
hittin the big half a billy in the morning ๐
I need to do my mini bosses, I was too tired last night after driving back home after Milton
I remember playing it for like 2 hours
i've been so damn lazy about these
technically im getting close to a 2x max ironman btw ๐ฎ
Oh I just saw the names, I still play flyff
that games still alive?!
they re-released it on internet browser or something right?
official servers were revived yeah
me and my brother stopped flyff once they changed the levelling of skills... and just went with flat levels ..
he was insanely good at levelling though.. where i stopped at lvl 60's he went on above 100s ๐
yeah I did not like the changes on the official server, just playing private servers here and there
we tried that too, until those also closed haha xD
theres a new one popping up every other month, no shortage of people trying to make money off of it lol
hmm is there a functional reason for doing like 1 anvil material on a character vs 3 aside from carry cap? like there is no lost production bonus right?
i never really questioned anvil stuff.. all my points went into speed.. should that have been cap? ๐
nah, all speed is good
thats a relief
yea ill respec them at some point as I have enough capacity but some are too low.
Is there any reason to up the gaming speed if i already have 5 sec instant grow?
more speed means higher base tiers, i.e. you could have t2 (and maybe t3?) be your lowest spawned plant
makes evos fast to get, too
Zauym thats a thing?
makes sense
thanks
also 5s and instant are two different breakpoints, though most of getting to instant is from farming crop count
i still cant get the 7th and yhe 8th evo
i got the 5 so i geuss i need more crops
yep, around 145-150 range is when most people will get it i believe
epic stuff thanks
i just learnt i can reroll my 2% multikill obols to 3% o.o
Yes, though, in general, you don't want to use multikill obols as their bonus is only a flat amount that doesn't scale with multikill tiers. Typically you'll just use Drop Rate and AFK gains from Kruk
A slight use case for them can be if you've just entered a world so don't have any deathnote kills or for VMan speed runs
I use a few on vman assuming it helps with speed runs at least a little bit, and dont have much else for him
erm my best speedrun i did last week.. i think it was.. 57 portals....?
not sure how to improve that any time soon ๐
guess ill go find a better meta for this then xD
Practice, the gemshop rings that give more kills, maxed out deathnote for more mk bonus, 5 star mk/tier cards
only recently started on 5 starring as well, used some gems for the trickier ones for drop and stuff ๐
should I redo my TDs, all my towers are like 75+
awkward smile
hmm need to redo my cans still, heh
my psionic just got lvl 48 ๐
T_T
this is the only thing i havent neglected cause a friend of mine told me so ๐
yeah, youre way the fuck ahead of me in refinery lol
lol yea, like 3x ahead of me there xD
woah ! ๐ฎ
yeah, that's one thing that's mega timegated, even if you have doot
doot helped my refinery soooo much heh. but yea its slowed down some now when you need like 10 days for a rank up claiming 24hrs of afk time doesnt take a huge toll anymore xD
i once had my snail reset to 0 from lvl 13... you guys also recommend i get that atom thing before i try higher right? xD
speaking of salts 
yay ! well done ^^
the big 1m for the first time ๐ฎ
ooh, first one? 
first maxed out cauldron boost, weeee
My orange salts need so many red salts and I am soft locked atm
aww yeah that'll take a while
i just learnt i can just active prayers for even more bonuses.. xD i had them all off for that passive
why are they off?
And I canโt make blue salts if I canโt make orange
And canโt make green or purple with no blue so Iโm big fucked
I keep like at least 4-5 difference in power/cycle otherwise I cant just upgrade towers freely
last month i learnt i could raise the cap to 1050m and still get atoms.. so i finally caught up on there ๐
it has been at 15m for like half a year since my break ๐
Man seeing end game qtys is so intimidating
can also turn it off as an extra layer of safety
Like I only have a 1k spore cap print
you'll still get atoms above 1050m resources
I can barely keep up
really? oh thats nice ๐ฎ
finally got new bags for ES I can hold 6.6m per stack
just be like me and post your 33 golden peanuts in endgame chat 
i can hold greenstacks on my DK now with the rucksack prayer on
definitely helps the active farm
omg...!
which bag is that
yeah the rice cake one
if you plan to craft xiepo, i would recommend 9 rice cake + 1 lantern bag
yea Im not sure how fast i can farm ricecakes
5k lanterns is rough 
I might just get hampter bag so i dont need to worry about anvil cap
Farm eclipse

is not as bad as you think
is this enough for w1-5 eclipse my sb is kinda juiced rn
with ballot i feel like it is
what's your kph on first mobs of the world? 
did you finish super chow?
when i candied all my eclipses a few months ago, it took me ~3k hrs, maintaining roughly 20M kph constantly throughout
maybe i should skip w3 eclipse so my autoreview will look funnier 
you can use that as a gauge... but your candy amount seems a little, low ๐ to finish all w1-w5
lol, I think Iโm gonna leave 1 achievement undone so Iโll always be a w3 gamer in scolibots eyes to keep me humble on the grind
66 maps, assuming you already have lava skull * 900M kills req = 59,400M kills / 1950 hrs ~= 30M kph average required
the winner bonus is a comb
but where is my droprate 
i cant do this anymore kaito
money next 
should i spend 300x 1h candies to get 1 single diamond boots? xD
diamond boots ?
drip of the gods
whats your kph looks like at gmush
5.5m
no
thanks, that made it easy XD
what you can do later on if you have sufficient kph and start eclipsing
i just improved my gmush from 2.7m to 5.5 so i was very happy
instead of using higher candy tier, just spamm 1h with sb
i feel im slowly closing on to where i should be.. slowwwwly ๐
also whats your force cap ?
you mean this?
how many ore can you put in the forge in 1 slots
hows your godshard card looks like ?
current reachable capacity is 150k. so you are roughly at 1/3 production speed that most late/endgamers are at - time to hunker down and find forge capacity sources.
you are in luck cause one of harder ones, arcade - is currently there - make sure to max it out while it is here
!review - will show you your missing/upgradable sources
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
for the card, you dont have to rush if the rate is to high
just check sometime with BB (1H candy) and see how much you get
and dont forget to equip mining food, it actually increase card gain rate by alot
didnt know about the card gain on that one ๐ i guess ill try to get that card upgrade first..
just remember to also candy on vman even when the card gain is less because of vman skills
only to 3*
4* and 5* you do it with cardifier
I used VMan to candy to 3*
I need more carry cap for ores so I can keep upgrading forge stamp
twice the price ๐
At least using that many candy with VW it leveled worship way above the ESs
thats good then
so minig for cards on vman?
no
bb first -> when it catch up to vman (close to) -> card on vman and get some level -> bb again
You just want to make sure VMan always has higher mining kevel
oyeah i got that covered
if your worship is lower than es for example
I just needed to also farm charge so VMan could outlevel the ESs on worship
you still have to candy fishing/catching/chopping so dont worry
worship 3
eep
it leveled too easy on the others!
well ofc XD
That is precisely the problem
my cannoneer is 111 and my mage is 116
but you can try to avoid it by letting other char worship on lesser exp TD
Yeah, VW use transfusion and the XP prayer before you worship, and go for max xp/charge
remvoe this prayer when doing worship on vman
Yup
also if you really want to make it easier, kill crystal with vman for ccd if you have choco chip, else wait for nextg week
i had all prayers off on all my characters..
and i have some catching up to do on waves anyways.. hm
i got 3 choco's so thats ok , i keep switching lab stuff now
only can make 1 decent set
I do forget to do this, sending VW to Crystal island with choco chip is always so much fun
i usually just send him to last w6 map
let him farm for ~30 min and get some extra level too
i btw started reviewing the autoreviewer this week... and it had some very good critiques ๐
well crystal island is also fine btw, im just to lazy to tp to crystal island XDD
consider me a veteran nooblet catching up ๐
ah you will be fine, just dont turn into xiepo / edvin they are scaring me
Do people really go for schow on Boops?
Yeah
im waiting for my editor to recover so that i can start publishing my book.. had 2 restless weeks. idleon helped at least making me feel progress xD
is time gated so impossible
how long do i wait before claiming shovel in gaming
I'm working towards the million kills
Asap
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