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are these eggs good?
your value is at 3 multi right now
anyone know if those egg capsule ar good or not?
its prob just for slab
slab means its bad?
is w.e.
you basically just buy for the gems mostly and the egg capsule for events card
Donโt you dare
8.5m to 17.5m. Not bad, not bad.
Bro I am so clueless tho, what should i pick on these 3? 
Ideal classes is 2sb, 2dk, 2es
And then 1 bb, bm, and bubo
I believe
1 of every class, including secret class, then a second dk, es, then sb

Cannot have my es active today too warm already
yeah, all those meteors and volcanoes and lightning do make it hot 
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
For DK in particular, too, you'll want to get up to 81k accuracy so that your refinery damage talent is effective
Here's also a talent setup specifically for Kruk
https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png
New pack @bleak gazelle @worldly lagoon @frank prairie
๐ฅ
That is $15 Aussie
for me its unironically 9.11 euro
make sure to drop the capsules before opening to add to slab, i made a mistake and didn't so they will be forever missing from slab
Is that a good pack?
i bought all the packs
it's not one of the stronger packs but its still a good deal on gems
ive spent way to much on gems
Main is level 444 I think now @worldly lagoon and have about 3 alts at mama trolls now
Nice keep it up, when u lvl grind time ull lvl much faster
Main still not down with leeks
I beat kruk in a ~30-40 minute brawl with my lv 330 Blood Berserker ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I think if you take your time, it should be doable with DK as wrll
dk can easily beat regular kruk with 35m dmg, bb is one of the hardest classes to kill kruk
Do I need to drop one stack of 10k gfood, or can I drop 10 1k stacks
1 stack of exactly 10k
Dang what food bag is that
void bag for me has 10.4k
but lustre would prob do it for u cause i have gem upgrades for carry cap
Try carry cap starsigns
I donโt think star signs will bring it from 1k to 10k lmao
Yeah prob not
You just need enough to craft the 20k bag because that one is easier then void bags.
how do i get escogia
is this not actually unlockable?
What hat do I use to fit that cape anyways
idk the capes kinda bad anyways
I don't even know should i buy it lmfao
if u ever buy gems then all packs are worth buying
I'm not a whale so no
Yeah whatever then
gem wise the packs are best value since u get full gem value plus the other loot
It's a lot of candy and slab items. It's really quite good for the price imo
until lava decides to bring back easter
ive graduated from super noob to regular noob
Is there a way to see carry cap of a bag with all modifiers included
Before crafting it
what classes should i make as 8, 9 and 10?
y'all know how kill w5 bosses
by attacking it
It's healing
then become strong enough to kill the mole
Oh
30 m dmg recommended on es, 35m dk
My dmg 25 - 63
What char?
Warrior
millions?
Yes
with divine knight that should be enough
js summon statues, attack boss, slashes should kill off moles on 1 side, if other side slacks off then just kill them and return to boss
Aww my divine knight is too weak
you usually use dk or es for kruk
Oh you are doing bb?
barb is weaker than both of those
My all char is lvl 200
some classes are weaker than others even if their stats/lvls are the same
Yea
dk/es have better abilities for killing than barb
My strongest char is blood berserker but I can't kill that boss
u should js switch gear from bb to dk/es
He prob hasnโt pushed dk/es to boss
if u could reach that dmg on bb I am sure u'll have enough for dk/es
maybe
or js get bb stronger to kill the boss ๐คท
meanwhile me and my almsot 300lvl BM sitting and skilling coz i want bonuses for more dmg xD
Thx btw
For kruk armor do I need magma core armor for it
yes

all it is is the nullinslats
@frank prairie not even a hello ?
my ES was just standing there overnight without auto on... nice
With Divinity, is it better to try to farm for Goharut before you swap all your characters to Mantra? I have a 100% chance offering available.
Should I use chemical warfare at all when I'm CC grinding
Go for the goat so you can do div and lab then go for mantra so yea basically yes
Its only really used if you have to push portal on a bad map
Oh alright
you do need to book it and level it though dont sleep on that
I did
Thank you very much!
wait you don't use gas for cc?
what are in the capsules for this weeks bundle?
Hard drugs
there was only 3 boss in w2 dungeon right ?
yeah
rip boss, he got hit for 800k
Lmfao
beautiful
only halfway on the chem achiev
ye i just finish it today
ffs
ohh, pickle level 2 vial, free cloud
metal detector is so good
what do i usew my cosmic candy on
gmush
with only 6m multi?
slugma
i need to get turtle...somehow...
you can super chow first
so you get deathnote multikill then proceed to eclipse
oh cosmic
chuck it into fractal island

My main now @frank prairie
How r u at leeks with the same damage as me
Iโm not even worried abt pushing w6 till I hit Mk
I have 4 alts at mama trolls @rich stratus
you should throw all your guys on the first map in w6 if they are low lvl
Oh damnnnn
Most of my dudes are the same level
They in the lab chilling rn till they all hit lvl 100
Idk where to put them all after that
that's a mistake
lab is fast later, especially in the early levels, i left lab at ~40-50, and got to 100 in 30 hours
Where should I dump them all then
There already at like 92 for most of them
The rest like 89
I just dumped them at hamsters or pearler shells
Thanks
Iโm currently activing on my bubo/ dk for statues and cc
do you have choco chip
Your dr is prob waaaay too low to worry about statue grinding beyond w2
Yeah
Itโs eleven on my dk
So Iโm just doing the w1 ones dn
if he have 10x thats good enough
Rn*
Oh ok
10x is fine for w3? Iโve seen ppl with 20x dr complaining about w3 statue grind
Yeah
Iโm gonna do my w5 td to 50 tmr for an equinox upgrade
and thats also the reason why people hate it
you have to farm with es, and that lose you to much progress + is just shit
Why is es bad
is like you have more thing to do thats are better
with dk / bubo / and even sb if you want drop rate
dk crystal farm is just way to good and bubo alchemy pushing gt is also to good
Yeah Iโm tryna get all my bubbles rn on my bubo
Missing like 2-3 in all 3
yeah now imagine sitting on es farming statue for 2-3 days

i mean, like i said, put them all on map1 w6. sprouts
it's probably your highest exp/hour and you'll get like 100levels overnight
ye but if they cant handle it
start with w4 or w5
get void armor for all of them
i hope you did your refinery correctly and always have mats for it
else fix that and make dementia gear for all of them first
that is not happening 
Chat my account is not that horrible
Like all my dudes are level 270 and one guy is 423
you mean lab level ?
Yeah saving my nullo salts for troll
because he said dump them all on w6 map
Nah like player level
i like this one but im never finishing these lanterns
could someone take a quick look at my account
Give account gmail and password
ok
Why not ask in #newplayer-chat-w1๐w2โณ?
youll see
Early w2 is minimum progression as of scolibot
Maximum progression is early w6 probably
nope
gotta love learning too little too late how badly you messed up your refinery rip
Dw, I had to mess it up on purpose to reach an equinox goal yesterday.
according ot the pinned worksheet, im gunna have to have the last 5 in auto refine for a long long loooong time while i catch my redox salts up
doesnt the green on also have the component/power ratio issue as well since it uses blue salt?
Green is the equivalent of red but for the second page. Since the cycles are slower on the 2nd page, you will always generate a fuckton more blue salts than green can consume.
ah i see
So you just make sure that green, pink (?) and nullo follow the system properly together.
well based on that im still way over ranked
For specific speed, the seconds page is 4x slower than the first one
Check scoli for this kind of stuff
scoli?
Yeah, you need to wait on green salts to rank up for quite a bit.
The account auto review site.
oh yea i use it
Worth looking into refinery speed sources if you have the time, since it will help fix stuff faster. Or having a few chars on Omni.
odd, the data seems to contradict itself. the excess/deficit shows negatives but the max tab1/2 show that im hitting the exact ranks im suppose to have without deficits
maybe im just not reading it right, im not sure
omni?
The elephant god.
im dooted
Even better.

guessing the angy face is due to lack of doot
in my defense, i was only at w3 and wanted the ram really badly since i didnt have good capacity for mats yet
so in a way i was disappointed to skip over it even though i got doot, now that im at w6, really glad i got doot
I'm still missing ram, slug and crystal. Got doot a few weeks ago and the QoL is surreal....
yea, rn my bubo is stuck at 171 max for skills and it really sucks
You can reach 200 through other methods.
im pretty sure ive tapped out every resource i have access to with my account at this time
well im into w6 up to mama where ive hit a major wall. As for as my library, my issue is im way behind on atom, artifact, and the w3 achieve
hehe you tell me
Ah, that's the issue.
yep...
and im at least 3-4 weeks at least before even getting close to that island, maybe 2 months is more realistic
I got the w3 achievement only recently, way past the point of getting 200 max level so dw about it for now, you can just spam 20 claims later.
Did you neglect sailing that badly?
i came back to the game after a year gone, was halfway through w2, in the span of about 3 months now im at w6 at what appears to be a major roadblock in damage. so yea you can say ive neglected it, but its more so due to haste to get the w6 background stuff set up and the upgrades
do you only have 4 ships?
If you're at mama trolls, you're already about as far as it's worth getting right now. Join me in playing catch up with past content. 
no i have 9
oh okay, guess they are stacked in that image
How's your statue farming going?
odviously missing the ones further down, but its a start
uhhh..........
neglected
well not great since i dont have choco chip...
but im getting it in 6 days, i already have everything i need
We're getting like 3 choco chips in the next few weeks if you wanna prepare.
How's your DR on dk?
I'd rather take 1 choco and doublers
I don't think doublers are even available without the w6 sneaking upgrade.
anyone got a good cog build image or anything?
https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/ use this, helps a ton
Yes, those.
thank you kindlyyy
Iirc they're always the extra option if you have the sneaking upgrade that also unlocks 3 more lab gems.
my primary DK is currently trying to finish rift 25
it should be easy to do
You should work on this and crystal spawn chance. Choco alone won't be enough to start statue farming.
i have my cards already maxed out (outside of ruby)
yea im still unsure how those work...
prayers are already upgraded, litterally the only thing holding me back rn is the lack of choco chip
The DR prayer?
so loading username doesnt seem to do anythring, and changing settings and clicking solve just loads forever?
midas minded, yea i have it, been slowly upgrading it
have you already uploaded to idleon effeciency? because it uses that to build your information on cogs
Obols, stamps etc.
ooohh i have not, that explains it then
which stamp handles dr besides the luck ones? and i suppose id need to figure out the best place to farm them, honestly obols are still a mystery to me, i just kinda work them when i get them but overall have very minimum understanding about how to utilize them effectively
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=(^(%3F!.*(dungeon|card|base.*luk|stamp|key|gem| ore|reward)).drop.(rate%7Cchance%7Crarity))%7Cdrop%2C
Search every bonus in Idleon!
You're aiming for this when it comes to obols.
ohh the golden sixes stamp, i just got that yesterday actually lol
Pop obols you go with ES at giga frogs in W1.
For dice obols you go with DK at sand pots in W2.
You should know how obol rerolling/upgrading works.
Dice obol for example, will always drop on 5%. If you reroll it, it can go to either 4% or 6%.
You want it on 6% before upgrading it since it's cheaper.
When upgrading, only the obol on the left matters to be upgraded.
this is my DK and Family respectively
the gold on the family was just for the achivement mostly
what i dont get is how to amass the rediculous amount of obols needed to do anythign with them since you have to destroy them to upgrade them, and i dont get many very often, maybe 1 or 2 in a given 24 hour afk
you don't get obols while afk, you get them while active farming crystals
AFK only gives 1 obol per afk session. You don't afk farm obols.
ahh i see
and i cant adequately active crystal farm until i get choco in a few days
so what im hearing is obols going to go hard next week
Obols only have a chance to break up to Gold I think? After that it's 0% chance to break but the chance for upgrade is low and you'll chew through fragments.
the fragments its the part im not understanding on just the sheer rate you have to have them just to get gold even if your unlucky
just active farm w2 crystals for a while, the amount of gold luck obols dropped (9 frags per) is nuts
even without choco i suppose i can do that for a while, i have my ES working on my rift as well, 5m isnt gunna kill itself
Chief Imma be real... you're aiming for 12x DR (or 13? I don't remember) to start statue farming. I started thugging it out for obols and the such around... 6-7x DR? And I'm still only at 11.48x DR. You're not gonna get ideal farming conditions for a while so try not to worry too much about it.
es sucks ass at killing crystals mate
what you actually want for farming obols active is DK
ES is not killing crystal, they are killing rift for rift 25
my ES is only for rare drop farming and card farming
ES is only if you wanna farm pop obols.
Could also cross check with this.
ill fill it out and take a look
How's your breeding looking?
Is there any sailing upgrade guide?
I unlocked anvil 5 but I cant access this is that normal
oh
Upgrade loot in increments of 8, sailing in increments of 7,
Speed > loot > arti chance > cloud discovery.
Your first few boats will generally always be the fastest. If you can send any to unlock clouds, focus on that assuming they can do 2-4 hour trips.
Idk what else you might be looking for.
about the same, im still learning how the breeding works, but im making slow progress, i dont have access to shiny yet but will soon
This is fucking insane. How did I not know about it until now?
ikr its so useful, id argue necessary
and i use it after about 3 days of cog making just to update for the 9 new cogs
I mean its ok but its better if you know what you are doing instead of using that
You will be replacing alot of cogs all the time
i understand what its doing and why, but the kind of 4d chess work it does saves me hours of messing with cogs to optimize
I think its alot simpler than it might seem at first, all directional slots are occupied with exp% directionals and the rest is also just exp%
I just put xp on characters and flag speed where needed. Rest were all yolo thrown in as long as they had xp.
that requires you to have Exp% directionals, meanwhile my towers are turning to dust waiting for me to have the build rate that such a setup gives. Im not saying your wrong, but rng has to be accounted for and this tool allows to make the most of terrible rng
if you are early into your cogboard it helps I guess, but once you have everything set and you are only looking for upgrades of the same cog you wont need it
Is that what the optimizer told you? That looks... very wrong ngl.
Put your flags on the lowest unlock squares first and foremost. Keep just your DK on the board, rest on cogs.
i have two does that matter?
Yea you wanna keep DK on board only so they dont use up cog slots that could be buffing your DK exp gains
also im not sure i understand what you mean flags on the lowest
Both DK on board. Rest here.
you also own FAR more directionals than i have, i maybe see 1 or 2 a week at most
If you click on your locked squares, some unlock at 1M, some at 5M, some at 10-15M, etc etc. The corners unlock at 250M. You're currently unlocking the ones that you'd normally unlock last.
oh i see
Try to work on cog speed sources if you arent getting that many
I think these would be your lowest iirc how it worked.
i have them all pretty much as far as ik how to at this point
Can you filter your board by xp? I wanna see something.
would this be easier in a vc?
Well that's because you have no players assigned to making cogs.
Go for this setup.
2DK on board.
3 on ulti
3 on superb
2 on decent.
You can just ignore decent if you wanna put 2 people on nooby for the achiev.
You'll get a lot more cogs so focus on replacing the empty slots you're leaving with xp.
and what do i do about my abysmal levels in construction?
taking out even a single one of my characters (non dk) cut my construction in half...
That's the neat part. More xp -> more levels -> more construction -> more build.
construction is just snowballing and you want to start doing that properly as soon as possible
DK will give you all the buildrate you want and flag rate you just need to level them up
well as it seems to be appearant, i have no clue how
I had my entire board focusing on build speed and had to spend like 2 weeks trying to fix it with xp cogs instead.
Build rate will just snowball as you try to progress towards unlocking your entire board.
so..basically i have to abandon building rn till my dk is better?...
What are you so adamant about building? 
dang..and here i thought i was making progress, just last week i was only at 10k build rate...
towers for my equinox
Build rate comes from construction levels, so construction levels is the only progress that actually matters
W50 in TD?
doesnt it also come from cogs?
I'm at level 2457 in construction and I am still running full exp directional cogs, not a single directional of mine (except gemshop ones) is giving me build rate
yes
xp cogs -> character construction levels -> more build rate as a result
cogs wont even give you 1% of what your dk would
here is my board with my DKs, and here is my board without DKs
like it's not even comparable
How are your towers looking? You might be overshooting with levels.
left to right: 26, 22, 35, 28, 17, 24, 19, 10, 3
my cogs gives me 0.000003% of my build rate compared to my DKs
Boulder 35.
Freeze 28
Void 3
You're already way further ahead than I was when I did the W50 shtick.
At most get like another few levels into poisonic just in case, but besides that you're better off looking into boosting your starting TD points and strategies. Your tower levels are ok.
i watched a vid by nocturne for placement, but its hard to gauge effeciveness when hes got his other point generating sources soooo much higher
.
this one includes what tower levels were used and they are similar
Yup yup.
ok, ill give it a shot later, i already exhausted all my charge to get some more soul supply for my midas as well as for refinery
Im assuming you have canoli meal by now
what about salt lick
level 9 on the green salt one, lacking the necessary salt making at this moment to get it
that should be good enough tbh
lvl 66 on the banked pts stamp
You're more than fine to get W50. It's all about the strategy from here.
yea, its between the W50 or the florbbo to get the next dream, and frankly im not sure how to best do the dungeons
for reference
helllooo w5 chattt
Rank 39
So fucking close to greatness.
???
...i fee like this place is too grownup, im just gonna go back to w4 chat 
Have you unlocked horn?
Well... that's a problem.
yes i have horn
yes i have horn, level 9
At lvl 40 you can get this.
It will always drop you the funny coin.
If you get horn out of it, gg wp you can solo carry that entire dungeon.
If not, exit and try again.
That's basically everything you need to know about dungeons.
HH is ending in 15 mins. I can carry you through a run if I get horn.
yea i just saw that, just left for dungeon, but after id love to
I'm not sure we'll have enough time left.
wow..the frogs on the last wave just instantly rinsed me...
3 mins
Cog 4 when you're done, try to get here fast if possible.
Oh it's you
yee
yee
anyway there are the requested stats
Dungeon rank?
39
Nope โค๏ธ One of the worst runs I've had in a while. You carried that hard.
Get block chance and drop rate. Crit rate once you get to R40. Total damage next.
i mean, was a very good one for me
I did get 1 voucher and like 25 single cuts tbh lol
didnt die this time, and did at least 1000 damage a few times
I haven't had any cuts and no gear whatsoever.
yea the gear part confuses me...
Might as well have done a grumblo run.
Only weapons really mater in terms of gear
Sir you picked up a purple rng item at the start
If gear have bigger number, it's good. You take. 
also minor gripe there isnt a separate temp slot for those so i dont have to redress myself everytime
Does the coin still count? I don't think I ever checked for it in the gear bar.
gotcha, so i should just ignore the small detail and only put on gear when the damage number goes up
Yes it does
Welp, unlucky.
Reminds me of last time when I broke the fucking dungeon
as for as my stats, what was you looking for specifically?
I think I lost a serrated ring in that dungeon...
I look for drop rate on dungeon gear
I lost a tenacity once
Anything that you could improve on to die less. 
.
i honestly dont have the knowledge of what im looking for to at a glance decide if a piece of gear is worth other than green number means good
It's less about surviving once you hit R40, it's about killing them before they kill you.
Green number take
Red number sell
Very easy logic
do you mash the shop for trait drops when possible as well?
If you only improve like +1 in green number but you lose like... a lot of drop rate or some better stat, then consider not taking it but that's just overthinking it.
Hello i'm at snail level 17, have had it reset .. far too many times. It's at 9.7% and almost 40% sucres rate. Can someone who leveled it up past me help when I should level to 18...
Not even to 20.. man you guys patience is the best
#endgame-chat-w7๐ can help you, I think the current people who exist here don't have snail or rank less than 5
yea honestly i cannot calculate that fast, if it wasnt the 10 min timer then perhaps
There was a snail encouragement chart somewhere, I'll try to find it for you. Easiest solution is just having the atom upgrade to checkpoint at 15.
Also this yes
Then just focus on green number.
I have the chart
@stuck river what was you interested in my stats for, you never gave any feedback on them
The success rates and stuff I have done it lower and lower and lower but keep failing why I was looking for someone who had higher than me @peak verge
It was Delgado, I was agent in game
ahh ok
(ignore the red part, that's something else)
well either way i wanted to know what to prioritize on the credit shop for stats
Like once you hit rank 40 you'll solo that with ease so a bit of waiting ig
crit drop rate
I told you above.
how do i know when im close to the next rank?
ohh im super close
Next hh will do the job
I can do a few more runs if you want.

sadly i gotta pass out, got some stuff to do in like 5 hours lol

So according to your picture it has to be at 39 ? Since I'm at 17 @peak verge
@open mountain perhaps you can answer sprinkler
whats the question
No no, ignore red. Focus on the left side.
@vocal ibex
2 encourages at lvl 17.
He said he's stuck ranking up his snail to 18
welp time to set up sam for some pots in w2 for the night/day
pretty sure IT tells you the optimal point to try and level snail based off of number of encouragements
No f way man I been encouraging it over 10 times easily lmao and failing
Account -> w5 -> Gaming -> Snail
Yoo
im only on kitsune for gaming rn
I am snail rank 3 rn
Encouragement has diminishing returns but this is the math that smarter people than me have done before and others can vouch for it. 
Is that 385 encouragements at level 24
Could be 215 based on this.
Man I have been doing what with my life. Thanks I'll just go to next level ..
How's your atom checkpoint looking?
Well fuck me, that was quick. Only 2 books. Probably to compensate for the other 30 during other days.
@peak verge atom level for snail is 7/20. So up to 35
God damn, you're more than ok to not lose a lot of progress.
Yeah and I failed 2 or 3 times very close to 40% rate of success more than 2 encourages. . My snail must be depressed
What does the snail do?
yea
It's pretty much what's gonna get you into red territory.
doot summoning
I believe.
Bad picture but I got it to 18 and did the 12 encourages.. I'm wait few days though add a few extra before trying for 19 
.. does snail really loose all the individual encouragements of each level when it's level resets?
it loses all encouragements if you fail or succeed. If nothing happens, it remains
fuck that shiet.. just failed a 19 => 20 bump and back to 15. I thought it kept the encouragements. I'll just stock mails now instead of doing it individually each day
How many encourages you have him on? Secess rates@rotund trail
Bro I feel you sorry for your loss
Man that don't seem right
yeah it's a shit mechanic because lava hates his players and hates his players having fun
I have 15 encourages on my 18 now still high chance to fail and reset
I like the trill but the anger right after ๐คฃ
Most definitely going to get it close to 10% fail chance before trying again
if it had kept the encouragement, then whatever.. sure I lost some time.. but farming all those back up again :S
@peak verge @rotund trail ty for chart, if I fail close to 10 % again I'll use it. Stubborn as a mfer I am
Godspeed lad.
what's best strategy for gaming?
Collect plants, acquire bits. 
what are the biggest improvers of lab exp gain i should focus on for the lab/div grind?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
yea i know, thanks! Ill rephrase, sorry. What are some of the things on that list that will REALLY help and are must haves?
Afk% and efficiency
Skilled dimwit is a must have for lab. The -xp% doesn't work on lab
ill get on that. Im doing lab75/div40 grind now and its taking so fucken long. Im lab 35/div25 on most characters now
Thatโs pretty much normal
i know but i underestimated the wait hahah. Its gonna take a few more weeks im afraid
If you get to div 40 just start taking out character and push map or farm materials
i got 4 gods immediately in div and now i havent gotten anything
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does choosing bubo work if you dont have tentecleye to 200
im grinding sailing now for the max level artifact, then im gonna do active bubo
It works, but is really slow
ah
yesnt, is okay but it get good with 200 tentacle
you should rather stick with dk es for w5
im not w5
Much much faster than just waiting for normal background liquid generation tho, so do bubo pre 200 tent if you have a specific alchemy goal on mind, of course
i cant even print enough
those are more so a suggestion
If im done with lab75/div40, do i put most characters on arctic so they can leave lab? (nobisect when pushing)
You get more accurate advice on correct channel cause people know what you have access to
yes but no one will have 200 tentacle prior w5
If you need them elsewhere, yeah. If you don't have a goal that needs them out of lab you can put them on goat and combine div+lab more efficiently. Lab75/div40 is kinda midway goal so you will still benefit from pushing higher
W6 chat has huge range of players from fresh w6 accounts to late/end gamers so yeh it's a big jump in knowledge/details from rush chats. Personally I'd just combine w1-4 and w5-6 question chats and make another late game chat for peeps who've pushed through w6 already.
thats just #endgame-gen-chat
oof i need to wait for next reset now
how to increases "trash"ure chest cap?
hi, question, should i leave my sprouts evolve or harvest them every time i check?
new at gaming, and im no sure about that part
Yeh but trying to smooth the "chat progression" for newer players. Now it's going through 4 chats in a month or two and then being stuck in w6 for an year before most endgame topics become even vaguely relevant
Depends on how often you check, of course, but harvesting often lets you get as many rolls for new plant types as you can and that will help you get chem (last type) unlocked as soon as possible. The real gaming for bits starts after that
whoa how did i unlock these
rift 51
what's the team for this
somethign something
i think I used peapod looter looter trasher refiller refiller
do u have peapod?
when is update?
when ready
maybe today or tomorrow, my egg generation is so bad
I have 20-50M damage range and am on lavarlamps W5 pushing ES. Should i just candy to Kruk and open w6?
yes
well hes dead. but now im candy broke and still in lab jail lol till level 40 div.
Nice though W5->W6 in 13 days.
w6 is worth it in my opinion
The damage gap between my characters is so big
my dk has 20 billion but my other dk has 1b
It is fairly typical to not finish lab 1.0 grind until early w6
kaito what TD wave are you at w6 ?
W6 has crazy boosts so just start farming and sneaking asap
all players have to go to the sneaking castle right before they are active?
No, you need to free them through climbing the tower
you have to unlock them in sneaking
it starts with 1 char
Sneaking feels garbage early on, it gets much better once you unlock more charas in the tower
it will still feel bad later on 
yeah i already hate this skill
why, it's literally a set and forget
i just wanna get the jade so i can start killing w6 mobs lol
doesn't it give you the premium currency to finish the quest instantly
that stupid intro quest. yeah guess i used it wrong? guy kept dying almost no jade >:|
Copium
Should looty mc shooty number be the same as the slab number?
suppose that I remember to drop pickup everything
Pretty much.
But that's highly unlikely to happen unless you knew about it long before.
for reasons not totally known, slab count will be higher than looty county. there are guess as to why but its just how it is
what should i upgrade in atomizer?
Should I keep focusing XP, Coins and Stealth? I feel like not making much progress. My 5th char would take days to unlock and hes been sitting there for about a week now, feel sorry for him ๐ฆ
read what lava said.
is it better too stay on the strung tooth if im playing active
or just get the scarf anyway
scarf is too good
same
idk where the w6 channel is but how can i start getting sneaking statues (the permanent pink lookin' buffs, not w1 statues.) I have the rift sneaky thing for harder sneaking floors but i still havent ran into em'
yea
just rare drops, or you can buy them from the gem shop
and by rare, he means....RARE
can i get em' on any floor though? haha
i wish they were a smidge cheaper like w4 jewels ๐
oh okay thanks!
i believe so, good luck though lol, I think I've found like 3 total so far lol
for some reason that channels hidden
was in suggested after when i clicked your shortcut. its better now that there was an add to channel button after that woo
then when i click "dont talk to others" or what not in the "channel and roles" it moves to a weird spot xD
Have you accidentally pressed this? It hides the channels that have no new messages I think
my stone luck is so bad
nah i keep everything open its just funky
1 more ๐ผ
the everything button worked but thats just weird how its not there already ๐ thank you for that
I got pretty lucky on 13 tho its gonna be rough
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just get lucky again
tomorrow is the day
hope you finished sussy gene
i didnt understand that quest and im almost done summoning.. is there a way to go back and fix it? xD
just don't finish summoning till you do sussy gene otherwise those stamps are gone forever
well not forever, just until endless summoning
FOREVERRRR
those are some pretty big stamps to miss out on, for however long
no but you can still do it on later summoning level
is just harder to do so
how do i farm more candy ffs
giants / doots / biggie hour / w2 colo / miniboss
dont forget crystal mobs on the fishy islands
Ehh +2 slab in one day 
what about the 5 gods after goat?
do you guys think i should leave all of my characters on the altar until they have like level 40 divinnity or whatever it was
or should i have some taken off to go level up ๐
generally, you should stay on divinity until you unlock goat, then move to lab so you can do both at the same time
ooh ic ok, i don't think i've put a single thing in lab yet 
leveling is trivial pretty much, I wouldnt worry about it,
lab is very important lol, so youre going to want to get at least the first part of the grind done fairly early
oop ok
generally your first goal is 75 lab/40 div. I'd keep one character out to push and farm while everyone else works on that, I did ES personally, DK is also good
75 lab- oh jesus i'm behind
75 lab is a trap unless you can farm your chips or buy them with gems
you want to unlock the gods either way and doing it with goat is just better
but yea 75 lab isn't all that useful for most people
it is useful for sampling when you rotate all ur chips tho
@.@ oki

just make sure your connected to the first few bubbles in lab
my divinity is like level 25 ish and my labs are level ONE, how many should i put in each ๐
all of them
like half and half?
wait
i can put all of them in lab and do divinity at the same time?
4 left
you can if you get goharut, or get doot
ooh okok
but being lab lvl 1 is holding you back so much
refinery speed, nblb, k4k
lab progress is still account progress, even if you think it's holding you back
yeah i need more refinery speed ugh
how did you get to w5 with lv1 lab
uhhh... food?
you don't need to go to 75lab right away, but missing out on the first few lab bubbles, and linking to articus, where you are always active in lab(even if not inside) is a huge account gain
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anyone know why the quest isn't completing for me?
i've unequipped and reequipped, dropped and picked up, nothing
rip you, zone out
try cloud save
leaving and entering zone did it, weird
some quests like equiping gear need map refreshes after doing part of it
you can forget about it as soon as you pity like me
eh maybe a month ago sure
its still op but im at the point where im not sampling too often or switching gods
yea but i still have it and you dont
true
breeding is so ass, how do i get more eggs or egg regen
Breeding?
na making fun of whoami since hes hardstuck in cooking
ah 
Account
finally 
thatโs why is so good
the levels are counted from your vman, bonus critters/souls are account wide though
@bleak gazelle Do you know how jealous I am of all your DR premium equipment?
You and me both
Are you manually stacking the orb?
To both no recipe from domeo and aceโs DR gear
you, him and me too
yeah i got to like 800
think a little under actually
do sigils go past gold
like 760
yeah, jade emporium upgrade
yes but it takes months
Do you have orb maxed on DK?
Gotta get that 1k, but that's probably the best you can reasonably do

such a cringe upgrade hole has to have sigil multis
How do you push orb count higher tbh if Edvin got max orb? My megarang can hit all spawns from one platform. I assume heโs doing similar strat to me (I ainโt 299 orb though)
Just takes 2 months with max speed for just 1 sigil...
How are those keychains? Can't see those in game
I'm guessing this isn't accurate
you need talent boosts
higher levels in divinity - equinox - sneaking mastery
16 and 13%, i bought the respawn ones but not the DR ones
also how does the cooldown on this work i swear it randomly drops from 12 s to 2 s
Then I'm jealous of those as well...
You have to catch it lol
Sneaking mastery?
@frank prairie if you donโt know how that works then you can prob push your orb count higher for domeo lol. Stand on mid platform (not domeo) and you can throw boomerang left towards domeo spawn and itโll hit all mobs on map. Assuming your megarang is maxed too so it humungo.
Just spam rang all day for orb counts
Didnโt know this was a thing, butโฆ Is anyone even to mastery 3? Maybe with the sneaking buff weeks?
im sure some of the endgamers are
dk yes ES no
why not on es
i think both useless stats for active ES
need these all to hit og2
just wanted to go marble for more damage
ok i made this w/e
had a kruk sword for my bb already so everything done for now...
i should remember to constantly lvl my shrines too for build speed
cant really fix gear cuz nullos suck 
vman is due for a resample but hes still weak af
Should my maestro have higher smithing level than archer?
Or just keep crafting on my archer
Craft on your archer. Vman dosnt need to be first in smithing but will get there anyway if you do crystal countdown.
You can also craft coldseeker bullets for a bunch of XP.
Ahhh
smithing doesn't utilize efficiency - so you don't need to keep vman as # 1
Oh that's good to know, was just thinking that I want mman/vman at highest for all w123 skills
its all w1-3 skills that that utilize efficiency. why smithing, alchemy, construction are left out
Got it!
How bad of an idea is it to active DK on eggs
the map... is terrible
personally i'd just let them afk. its just a terrible layout that you'll waste so much time running around
its worth getting them to minichiefs for their primo farm map
yea Ill just push it ig I wanted to farm statues but not gonna happen on eggs
I remember needing minichief base drop for something but cant find it
oh yea the axe
@frank prairie
after nearly 3 weeks of nothing, i finally hit! and the one i wanted the most!
Rarest artifact in the game, congrats!
this is kinda better than I expected from DK, also Im using all my afk gear on bb

what
is good
so what's the meta once you have your garden full of chem...
click em
for your progression: Harvest all -> Squirrel + Shovel -> Sprinkler -> Harvest all -> Log -> Sprinkler -> Harvest all -> Chem -> Repeat until you run out of chem or dont care anymore
Would somebody be so kind as to give me acc a once over and point out any glaring issues
https://you_monkey.idleonefficiency.com
What's your lowest tier in IE autoreview?
Havenโt been able to properly load it donโt have access to a computer rn and my phone sucks so I canโt really get any info out of the autoreview
Tโis why I am subjecting myself to embarrassment 
embarrassing from getting help ?
Yes

:/
i just unlocked imports. i assume i save 200k for sprinkler asap?
is there a chart that i can use to help me get my prints up
and also like what to level for bubbles cus they absymally low rn
cause i'm feeling generous and you were surprisingly honest in your request. a few things i will note, not in any particular order:
- your vial unlocks are severely behind for your progress. you should be using all your attempts daily. not sure if you are aware but you do not need to do your vials in order so prioritize your attempts. no i will not guide you in this, make the decision yourself.
- you are at serious risk of keeping yourself salt-locked considerably for quite a long time due to over leveling your deeper salts while not properly managing the feeder salt levels appropriately. be warned.
- you have spent god knows how long getting 89% completion on atom collider when you aren't even remotely close to being at a point where it is reasonably relevant. don't waste more time in it.
- you are in w6 and have only unlocked 1 god. this is the end of my comments. my generosity has run out.
i was originally gonna say you need to start doing some work on your bubo but i realized your sailing is in a dogwater state, you need to spread your 150 hampter gummies out across all your toons, you need to go back and do divinity and lab, so put pretty much everyone on divinity since realistically you dont need to progress anymore in W6 you're too weak for that
slap everyone on divinity until you reach goat god, then apply goat god to everyone and work on lab until all your characters have minimum 40 div and 75 lab
why dont you have blooming axe unlocked????????? but you have past present brood which is after it unlocked???
just unlocked 10th character. i have one of everything + 2ES + 2DKs. do i make 10th BB?
why SB? just curious
2 min claim for Forge
meta is SB, farming out gmushes with short claims or lazy claims for forge progress is important cause later forges take forever
got it. well i just threw him on divinity immediately because im still farming goat.
2BB will help progress to later game quicker. 2SB will help you push later game sweatier.
but i was curious just for my mental planning.
all good, is just nmlb destroy the bb economy
Thank you ๐ญ
fyi if you want to produce 1 godshar bar normally without archer claiming
ofc it get reduce by oil and some other forge uprade but you know what i mean
13 hours for 1 bar ๐ญ
should i focus on getting goat god or skill mastery in rift
thats the reason why archer is meta right now
@snow obsidian
well its going to take hella long for both
cus i get no kph in rift and my highest div character is 12
holy fuck i was checking cards on IE and i realized ive never done Doot 
i thought doot meant like either the pet or the enemy doots in W2 party dungeons BAHHAHAHA
thats a LOt of drop rate dudeeeee
yeah i did
how many you got
how many doots can that get me
yeah i do those everyday
dont do it, just craft it
yeah i meant craft it
yeah im 1 map away from leek spirits on 2 dudes
you have the bonejoepickle upgrade unlock ?
yep
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1oMka1tzl89rErYHDXvU7JMHIr14DWOLSdfeZlrYBk/edit#gid=1042543501 check how many pickle you can take with midas
then do doot with vman
i also recommend you to card snapshot
last lantern done

have 3 artifacts leftr
i need 2 but only the mask tha you miss matters
the last one is the shimmer lantern

shimmer is good
im getting 30% skill eff from it
so imagine lantern giving 4x that bonus
better then alot of the artifacts
gotta imagine each % now in shimmer island is 5% instead of 1%
nvm 26%
missing out on 26% skill eff

Main went up allot yesterday cause leveled up that bubble @frank prairie
@frank prairie did you do your happy hour yet
i did not no
@grand scarab @warm path
okay im there
Nah Iโm pretty afk a few more days
@frank prairie rdy ?
Iโm at work or I would, sorry
when is the next gaming boom?
is it another sailing artefact?
these are the ones i have
summoning, snail from imports
is it worth it to roll for shimmer island book, or better to just get bonuses now that I have the sov lantern?
how do i see how long for my sprinkler to recharge?
i don't even remember what that book is, but if you've got sov lantern, i'd at least pump a few levels into skill efficiency and maybe base stats
Maybe @junior dune or @paper sail has a decent idea of when to roll for it?
So like, do i not get to play idleon until all my characters are like lvl 75 lab? the pressure of "you have to have all lab bonuses to play the game" is insane.
I love idleon but i feel like i cant be active and play the game for weeks if i want to "be good"
They all went through divination jail until the goat buff, and now it feels like lab jail until next year
I think book is like +% all stats
but tiny amount
I still haven't tried for it ๐คท That one is a gamble iirc and not super strong
I mean you can literally do whatever you want, eventually though you'll want 75 (and then 210ish) lab on everyone to help with different parts of the game 
Play to have fun, some people enjoy playing super efficiently, some people like to yolo, some like to pick and choose what they care about
yeah, just took skill eff to 30% with the points I had
It's a few percent of all stats
I am pushing through W5 and just hit 1100 total level. I have 2 DK, and 1 of everything else. Should I go with my 2nd ES or SB next?
If you don't have enough chips to need all slots open, then sure, skip it for now and just run arctis or whatever
Just do skill efficiency if you don't wanna do it for a sense of completionism
2nd ES is normally recommended unless you have doot
are the base stats worth investing in, too? Or just pump skill eff?
Yeah i know, but i am one of those that love the super efficiency, but it doesnt seem to be able to combine with "fun" at the same time, like for instance i wanted to get in on farming crystals but then i apparently need like 10x droprate, chocolate chip cookie, a gazillion of dps, all box unlocks like im not sure what to even do if i played active, its so confusing how people even get to that point without farming from scratch
you only really need choco chip if you want to start effectively crystal farm, as well as just enough damage to be able to 1 shot crystal mobs, which honestly isn't too much
Really not worth it. Did a click the other day and the effect was 
Crystal farming becomes much faster with more DR, but it also helps you achieve that DR, too
Ahh, well guess I didn't really invest anything
I see, my main is dk, its lvl 174, my es is only 104, but it does have around 3x droprate, 3mil dmg, enough mana to sustain keeping all abilities up on active play, is that "fine" for starting to farm obols at frogs you think?
Sure, gotta start somewhere. You can also start with farming your other Card DR cards then DR cards then go back to Pop Obols if you want, too
Skill eff should be by far the best for essentially everyone. It's kind of sad how unbalanced it is
you have given me courage, i shall try it, tyvm
Just don't expect any crazy fast gains and you'll be fine
It's all incremental 
Have you gotten your owl up to 40% DR?
its 36% DR atm
I wonder why he never made a mining eff shirt
Are obols auto pickup with auto loot? just asking in case my inv gets full, should not affect it if im afk active for the night right?
auto pickup but they go to obol inventory
When should I stop levelling green spikes for summoning? Costs are getting high and enemy hp is growing much faster than spikes can keep up
sounds like a good time to stop 
Unfortunately I am too stupid to win summoning without spike abuse
wait btw why are ES supposed to farm gigafrogs for obol, is that not only for cash obol, not droprate?
es would farm there for the pop obols
because pop obols don't drop from crystal mobs, just the gigafrogs
ah i thought it was there for the square drop rate
that would be dice obols from w2 crystals, sandpots is recomended for that
i put at least 1 pt into all of them cause something > 0 and for 7 pts, its really not too much of an investment
tbf, the last time i put points into them i had 0 lanterns
Ladies and gentlemen, we got em
now it's time to sleep till w7
I'm already in like a half break mentality
Playing idle skilling to get that trophy rn
Have my es active farming Bullseye Statues today again @bleak gazelle tomorrow will be too hot here to have my laptop on
bruh, they're giga cursed
