#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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My oak prints are great
the helium atom upgrade makes these even better
yeah better than 0 lmao
go on IT and check how many atoms you get per day
account -> printer
IT doesn't show?
i dont think IE shows
hover logs real quick

guessing because logs are not full
you gotta fill logs first prob
itll prob be slow but you might be able to get some nice atom upgrades
That makes sense
this one right here is so broken
very expensive though
i would say follow the bubble upgrades on autoreview and the reccomended books your prints will prob 10x in a week or 2
I got up to carbon atom upgrade
Alright 
candy skilling cards too
getting these to 4s are pretty easy
although when i get the eldritch snowman island artifact i can resample again very soon
cards are very big for prints
i have most of mine at gold or so when i could just candy them for 4*
you usually want to candy them on vman with a dr build
i 100x my fish prints last resample
i dont think ill get that
Then I'll need to farm some candies
sick, glad i got that before next week
dang grats
gotta get those sov lanterns
get more meal levels, itll keep scaling up
i got freaked out for a moment i accidentally clicked auto and a text box from lava said nice
what would do this
there was a 69 somewhere on the screen, i dont know what all actually triggers it
oh my dice dynamo???
prob
it scale exponential
it start going up alot ~2k if i remember correcly
I Dont understand
like i said, you need more meal levels/talent levels for it to scale
Like how many meal lvls
2k = 2000
its esentially (1.01)^(meal level)

Bro im bad att math
you just want to hit 2k meal
its 1.01^97
For anything to happen
no for it to start ramping up fast
yo uare cheating anyway
i need to high key ladle all my meals again but im too lazy rn
Who?
edvin, he told lava to give him insane luck
Did it work
Does using 3 alchemic like in the guide sheet for early spices actually help? My speed went from like 100k to 25k
hes been hitting soverign left and right
its almost like we play this game too much or something
but look at how much spice you get
claim and watch it
if you are using alchemic you probably need the bop box
na you dont
But then I need to go to w4 town. That would require me to snapshot my dr cards all over again. Too lazy
okay ill give an example since im not lazy
The guide sheet says just bunny and bloque
then is fine to use
29
so instead of one spice you get multiple per harvest
and thats better than faster speed because faster speed eventually hits a wall
https://jme.idleonefficiency.com/
Any tips?
any goals?
do your boss keys 
Huh that makes sense. I knew what alchemical did, I just dudnt know effect would be so pronounced

Increase dmg on my dk or bobo
Thank you mr . not lazy
Umm 😶
level your stamps
Im trying to get my vman new wepon
dont vman sucks anyway
your 3d printer makes me cry, holy smokes
literally you only play with 1 person everyone else lab jail
I know bjorn ik
until you hit atleast lvl 75 if possible
Ye im pushing my dk to w6
how do you have a print of 80 in w5? lol
Im 1 map away
this is terrible
Idk😭
you need to do a ton of catching up rather than worrying about pushing
how close to w6 are you?
So bacicly i was geting 1m kills on all mobs for vman
Finally made it to w5
only es does that waste of time for other people
Thats why all have the incect
and if you are in w6 legit stop pushing and just backtrack
No Killer bright side is terrible
active es is prob faster than everyone else combined with kbs active
kbs and nobisect
missing all the buffs from stamps
Ok and I just got my 9th charecter
oh god, i didnt even check that lol
Ye i know 😭
you - always - want lab online
even in late game everyone should be connected in lab some how
Whats DKs max orb talent lvl before 315 where it gets optimal time
oh your alchemy is cooked
267
TY
almost at 380
you are good with unlocking bubbles @timber kayak but very bad with leveling them lmao
bro
get off this 
btw edvin you finish 27 vials ?
this fast enough to be on sigils yeah?
not really no

unless you have nothing to do
if you unlock all bubble you can start on sigil if you want
ive just been going back and forth between that and liquid cauldrons when im on bubo
and if you are ccing just put them back on cauldron
ye thats what i been doing
yeah, im not gonna keep pushing when they take like a month until i get more speed lol, im knocking all these relatively fast ones out
you should focus on pea pod , pipe gauge and trove

it doesnt show the artifact buff
oh
gotta check IE or IT
ahhh, makes more sense
Have my sb active in world 5 today but most of next week will be too hot to have my laptop on much here
is there no air conditioning in Australia
it was 110 degrees F here and my house was cold
Yes have it but not in my room
Only fan in the roof I have in my room
thats the main place you need ac

Have it in the living room only
when are you going to do another print @oblique jasper you are slacking
That’s weird
Can get about 120f+ here in summer @frank prairie
Well I was planning on doing it this weekend since I don’t have time during the weekdays, but now there’s the afk gain ballot coming up so I’m not sure

just do logs at least
I’ll prob just do it tomorrow and then do it again on like Sunday of next week right before the reset
Hopefully I’ll have fury by then😕
It’s been like 3 weeks why tf isn’t base fury dropping
if you are a tryhard like edvin, you could sample on monday when balloot switch
I’m about to have a mental breakdown
then with all that new gain you boost your account higher and sample again on sunday

do all samples in one day like a g
Too much effort
Divinity killed my want to play the game why do I need to spend a week afk 😦
That’s what I do. Best to get it done in 1 sitting. Kinda like ripping off a bandaid
I don’t think it’s a week
But a few days at least yeah
It sucks
you can start playing on a map pusher when you unlock Arctis/bear
but yeah its rough 
Or get doot
Only 250 more weekly pulls til I get pity doot
Yea 138 sorry
only ~2.5 year
Using that time candy
Just a slightly longer nap honestly
Ok i put my chatecters on lab
Still can’t pull more than 23 frosty souls or whatever so hard stuck on w3 anvil atm 😂
My attacks bounce off mobs
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
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the hot dog grind is actually so painful
14>15
i know your issue
Construction is my bottleneck 4 sure
I just have my main towers building all the time
I have 2 BB not DKS only got 8 chars atm
Wanted to cook faster
1 of each other class all at least 100
My 2nd bb is chowing w1 atm
now get 200k more golden peanuts
7 left
i will probably left after reaching last spice map
and come back when i have more dmg / mk
wait nvm is not that bad
no requirement for open
i should finsh 4-5 tomorrow
bm should be done in middle of the night so ill switch him to goat and give second SB nobi to try and speedrun it
rest are all something like this
i prob need to do that
4-5m without nobi hmm
dont eclipse
ye thinking of lab or just worm afk for keys
ye but i can just candy that
its not the best thing to candy
? why not
2min claims more efficient
eh
if you want to candy it you do superchows
no medal needed but sov fury woulkd be nice
maybe next month
probably
prob with the new update
What level does my maestro need to be for vman quest
I'll get it some day 
Yo @frank prairie I'm still stuck at like 100m build rate
red salt in storage + dk level
I just ranked up my red salts and construction level uh
thats fine, im just saying where speed come from and is mostly from dk lvl
and summoning i guess thats shit is broken
It's just very sad
do you use the meta construction build ?
try to put your dk in ulti cog to see if you can instant click
if yes do that while you active something and have time
So just stack up the player exp%?
yes only player exp
Also yes I think I can instant click it's already like 10 seconds per cog
Even the boost cogs I only use exp and not build rate%
thats not instant click sadly
Without the dk forgot to mention
oh good then with dk in you should be able to

but ye a insane boost will come from summoning and sneaking charm that boost summoning bonuses
Ok got it ima start a td real quick
merits will also boost it
I already got the comb and I think I got 1 construction bonus
My summoning is not that worse but not that good either
Does maestro left hand affect all skills
Like if maestro chopping is highest does it also affect other skills for everybody else
only the skill hes the highest level at
but also only skills from world 1 to world 3
Chopping / Catching / Trapping / Worship / Mining / Fishing
yes and for himself
at vman he wil get a talent that enhance some talent
225 is really broken because you can start using 2 knight
150 is for late gamer or endgamer to push shiny pet to lvl 10
Oh shi
So thats vman tab 4?
yes
hes a supporter for your team
this will boost your cooking speed to the moon
how far you have fallen smh
still just need 4
Haha I have 3k
farmed a decent amount from the hotdog farm
one day 100b
i might pull out the ES for the statue farming after skydogs is done
if i have the charm i probably shouldnt need it anymore after getting vials to 13
thats printer output
so if you print 1m logs the 1m*charm
well this boost printer output because of stamp
and idk how much this give at lvl 13
your account still not +90 so
anyways it doesnt matter you dont need 50% xp lmao
ye but it looks better
Why limit yourself to 3 digits
w6 gold food will get you good amount of class xp
oh right
It’s not a multiplicative decline
i was joking xd
i know the -exp for royale dont matters but if i can remove it that would be just better
Welp you can’t
we will see after i finish that 1 vial
Missing 11%

Fun fact the M&M ad promotes cannibalism
thats good because i agree
I, too, promote cannibalism
promote cannibalism i am
Fun fact your FBI agent is going to raid you tommorow
Free meal
nice they are gonna save me from idleon
are you guys all in 10 chars farming, or do you split it up
also if you have all w6 bubbles, do you guys move all to sigils
yes
and i move them back to cauldron when i cc
hopefully i can finish w6 today or tomororw, 2 bubbles left then i can go back to farming statues
if you dont want to do sigil you can let them in bubble and pre unlock w7 / w8 bubble
my sigil rate is, 13....
ye dont
but then i push my sigil at ~20 because i had nothing to do with them
now im at 100 after summoning + pea pod
How is multikill calculated during afk?
I'm currently trying to get 12m green mush kills with my mman for the vman quest as AFK, on the side I'm farming other W1 mobs with my other character actively. Now if I increase the deathnote on W1 mobs, will my mman get that multikill added to his afk gains or does it only matter how much I had when I STARTED AFKing?
:(
Check the card
ffs these farming bubbles are the worst
dont worry
what card?
yeah well that wasn't my question...
does multikill get calculated when you receive afk rewards or when you start afk-ing basically
Recieve
I tried to abuse that in the rift but failed miserably
just candy it
ah nice to know, also what exactly did you try to abuse in the rift with that?
if you went vman 7th you're in for a slow time anyways
yes I did, why?
I went for 5th beat me to it
because it takes time to out level all your other chars for vman to be useful in skills
you also will take forever to kill nightmare kruk for merits/unlocks
as in, it'll take you months and months to get the dmg necessary
your vman speed runs will be bad
but it's not a big deal, it's a marathon of a game
better to have it than not to ig?
and now that you rushed to w6, you'll see all the work you have to do to catch up your chars to push w6
I'm gonna be totally honest, I don't even know what the vman is good at, I only know he buffs the other characters
yeah I only did it cuz i heard that W6 skills are heavily timegated
just got into w6 and all skills require time without candy , instead they have consumables like the bottled wind
same as W5 tbh
yep
thats why I guess its good to rush it haha
i'm not saying rushing is bad, it's what i did.
just don't neglect the other systems in the game
Oh I am not, I'm mostly following the IE AutoReview Tool, not strictly but I try to cathc up on stamps, alchemy and all that shit
I used a big amount of candies to rush my skills of vman to be higher lvl
my dk was 70 lvl and vman like 10
im not done yet so pretty much since i started til now XD
w5 gets afk procs at least
yeah those been a godsent
Yerp
Im at 200 hours to break the m2f4 door and considering it
But i should really 90% my blue and gold gem
is this bad
Hmm
where you see this
IE
Guys
Whats yours btw
Should I just use all my candy to get through world 5 since u can't use candies in w6
Bcz I think I have exactly enough candies
300k kill portals is insane
whats ur damage
people should hype bubo up to much because so many pushing bubo with afk kill
bubo always been my main so I jus sticked with him
yea bubo is very bad at this stage
cant find it
is more because he is a activ pusher
if hes not activ ? lab jail
Even if you get to boss idk if bubo can kill it with that damage
I think I have just enough candies to get to kruk
oh lol
Yeah I have tons of candies left but kruk is also gonna be a difficult fight
is 100
I'll try ill try
with bubo you can technically go afk when he can oneshot mole
the monster next to boss room
bruh thats so much higher
it will just take longer
Cuz all my gear is w4 stone except for helmet
Is your pea pod golden
I can make new gear with w5 stones
yes
id would recommend getting to w5 boss with DK
Anvil tab 4 is so mid
Thats definetrly better but im biased
you need shit tons of nullo salt
you cant bias for to long anyway, dk will be needed for a long time for statue farming
and if you want more drop rate you need sb
I think gonna spend today greenstacking all mob materials to make pushing w6 easier
I think its additive but im mosly motivated because i got the jewel
how does the rare loot work for sailing?
For farming recipes is it better to candy it on a vman?
yes
Ye I'm at kruk now
Man im afraid I might not be able to beat him
I got 21.8m dmg now
22m
hold ur aura and use it when they are almost about to reach the boss cuz ur poison will definitely not kill them
go book it if u can
The damage recommendation of 50m-80m damage on Bubo is there for a reason 
3 potions only deal like half of the moles health
kruk is way more difficult than troll
I killed troll with just using the potion attack easily
https://lheorvine.idleonefficiency.com I'm stuck at w5 Kattlecruk dmg wall, anyone care to take a look if i'm missing some dmg system on my DK? It might just be that I need more Stamps and Alchemy, but I feel like I could be missing something
Show stat page
In game
Have you considered using a dementia helmet
And a better ring than chef ring
does that really make that big a difference? Feels like equipment upgrades outside weapons are pretty negligable?
or maybe im wildly underestimating them?
Main stat=damage
And damage=happy
also for rings I dont know how to get a better one tbh, this is the best one I could have or craft
so would apporeciate tips there
No armour pre troll has almost no impact. Global bonus is where all your progress is.
Just make another serrated rex
I mean he could use a better helmet than gold at late w5
That is fair.
He had a grandma disguise but I acidentally sold it while upgrading it lol TT
I still have a MCR shirt out of lazyness.
Well farm that again
make chiz helm
I have full divine bodyplate and legs
its only good piece pre troll
You did see the kruk info in the pins here ya?
I assume he does not possess the items needed for even void considering he's in dementia
nah, taking a look there now
I kinda do but it always seemd more important to use them for bubble upgrades
like the frogs for dementia helmet or whatever
Basically ES can do kruk at a lower dam output than other class'.
You are so close to breaking through Kruk. Find damage anywhere. Alchemy, stamps, star signs, rings, necklace, helmet, tools, food.
dk with that dmg seems fine for kruk, did you attempt it yet
many times
and its riiiight on the cusp
which is why I decided to ask
maybe my strategy is off though
It will likely take 25-40 minutes. But that time is so little compared to another week or two of grinding.
or maybe my talents are
yeah if there was any negative change in his hp I would
have you booked the first talent in squire tab
So as long as you kill the moles you will win. Does your statue 1 hit the moles?
Or the first talent in the dk tab
Squire
if you book the first one you should be fine
pretty sure it also buffs ur statue
yeah Maybe a respec and some more books plus better ring and head are enough
You have -29% damage from top right in squire. Never use that talent.
its an active
so I dont have it equipped
but yeah points are wasted
So book those 3 highlighted and give them all the points, then spill into the strength one. You should be able to do it
Put on your most damage cards and card set and leave it for an hour
You last tried at 13m damage. You will be the 30-35 range now.
I'm excited for you. You got this.
❤️
Ngl I neglected the talent book library forever since as a game designer its probably my least favorite system in the game, but thats no excuse
Oh when I said 13 I meant the minimum dmg
Topend was 29 I think
Is standard to refer to the max dmg roll?
Yes. Max damage is all we care about.
Ah I always just look at the min roll, need to change my thinking there then
Where was that doc file for builds
So In that case I should Ignore the mastery talent?
Scrape up every last bit of damage from those mentioned sources, make sure you focus on shockwave and statue to 1 hit moles. Boomerang upgrades are substantial too. And make sure you have good points into precision power.
Another damage buff not mentioned is nobisect divinity, if you don't have doot then consider aligning with nobisect for some bonus damage.
If you are still hovering the <30m range, then I would say leave the game on over night while you sleep. Should wake up to W6. So as long as you 1shot moles.
I would not max it to ensure that higher priority talents get maxed
Not bad
It would only take you a half an hour to murk krucky
my money per hour was like 2 voids and 10 dementia coins less than a week ago
Is this because SB is in gmush farm?
Is there a guide or smth where i can see what the best trap setups are? i wanna do 20hours but i dont know which traps are best on which critters and which critters are essential
It's a good morning for murdering thousands of suggmas
Indeed
Then realizing you will likely not get the drop you want for a while
Then doing the cycle over and over again
20 hour royal traps. You will most likely want a mix of critters, but focusing honkers for the vial is usually a good idea, at least until vial 12, 13 might take too long.
Whats everyones gold nugget size?
4.9M
I just jumped from 80k to 1.9M
can you give me a quick brief on Chem plants? just got those too xD
can i run a hybrid EXP and critters% setup? Or is it all out on critters or all out exp?
have your VW max out XP and set nature traps for VW and BM on highest critter you can
wait does royal have a 20H option?
sorry, 10H royals
at which points do they have enough exp? or are they just perma locked in exp?
even if you let the autoclaim work, they are second best for both shinies and critters
currently last trap requires lvl 120
mine are only 102, so it will take a while
and u have VW and BM on full exp?
yup
I do need to redo my traps. Just waiting on daily reset in 41 minutes
I need to speedrun and then resample everything
i dont have royal yet tho. im on meat traps. I guess its 20h Silkskin traps for now? till royal?
hmmm, are you using autoreview? the trapping section (under "Unrated") has a bunch of tables with tiers for traps depending on your goal
ill check
but yes, silk 20h is best for shinies
Guys. Question. I rushed world 5 using elemental sorcerer and i just entered world 5 now. So for world 5 would be bubo right?
and I said 10H royals, but I'm actually using 40s as it is much better for autoclaiming
check the pins for what to do when you get to W5, some really good suggestions there.
I can't really say anything about pushing as I do that on my SB
Last question, should my other characters also all have 1/2 exp traps? or not necessary ?
depends on your current skill, if you can equip royal traps on everyone, that will hold you for a while. You will eventually want everyone to be able to equip Forbidden traps, those need level 90. But that is much later. Only my VW and BM can equip those
I do plan on changing my traps today to all xp to push for 90, since I can craft the 8 traps already
makes sense, thanks
time to backtrack and tackle some of your older skills, cards, alchemy, etc
Candy
So what's the benefit of buying 6/6 lava plants in at 2/6 just not seeing a value in the last 4. Since insta gaming is how we push purple bits and the final shop upgrades for gaming
Your gems could be spent on other stuff first I think
The shroom slimes are always game changing no matter which stage of the game you are at
Meanwhile lava sprouts only serving for 1 purchase necessary for a equinox cloud, rest are good to have but not much
And the crystal printer which you already should have for obvious reasons
Those are much more worth the I dunno and forgot like 400 gems for a extra slot in gaming
Sorry for my yap
Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap
Guys need advice. I rushed world 5 using es. I have 8 character and my 7 characters is in lab. Es have divinity skills so use es i divinity until level 40 for the goat right then use 1 character in lab to farm or level up while es is leveling up divinity?
I jus candied from like the third map till kruk today
with like 5k kph
on the 600k portal
is this 1 hp help
ok didnt realize i summoned 2 jewels sparkies before typing but i got it
is that hard part supposed to be 5 min round
just missing regalias familiar
Ngl figured these fall off once you finish all your matches. Since essence generation seems to go crazy
Definitely fencing sitting here between pristines and land plots. This is all I got left
how do people get the pong achievement, I can get to 7K sometimes, my max was 10K, but past that it is just too fast for me.
because you need to score more often
the more bounce you do the faster it goes
is there a guide to pong?
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message
You can check this 100k score video and see if you can use some of the tricks
I'm actually a genius
I was looking at w5 achievements n saw the sneaky secret acheivement n just knew I had to walk behind the mole shop guy
lol
n it turned out to be that
yup, congrats i guess? lol
@teal lynx the complete lack of hitching and lag is the difference in that video and my attempts
@viscid wadi what platform do you play on? Your pong looks so smooth
Just steam. my computer is getting a bit old now with only a 1080 until the 50x comes out to finally upgrade, but has run rather well ever since the "engine updates" Lava did a few months back
Even back before W6 release though I did manage to get a decent 80k with a bit of the lag. Just requries some luck obviously
I got some nice candys over the night
chicken butt
Do u remember the 21th night of september
How and nice
Giant Mobs
Are we ever gonna get new pets btw?
as in breeding or companions?
It will likely be a very long time before we get new ones, its a very very controversial update
never took my ES to wurms before but this is horrifying
@solar drift just for you
ill beat you
and still stuck at fury with 0.05 arti rate
farming xp one is big
Oh damn
I will farm after doing my last vial
but ye idk been claiming like 100 chest every hour just to get shit on
what dr did you farm w3 statues @solar drift
ok divinity is offically the biggest wall in the game pre w6
just getting to goat*
its the biggest time hole there is really
20
i left it overnight to farm
is the xp gain from Captain Peptalk on Siegebreaker only active when interacting with the sailing interface or is it passive even when not interacting with it?
passive but make sure you are on the preset
thanks
its not passive
are you serious
Does anyone know if quest item drops are affected by either MK or DR? I'm trying to greenstack some quest items with my ES and its taking kinda a long time even though I'm getting a ton of kills.
so you ahve to claim on the sb?
yes you need to be on sb

and after you are done with all artifact you can just put every ship to last island
for gold trade + tons of exp
i mean leveling captains 50% faster would be pretty cool
Is there a multplier on how fast Gaming sprouts grow back other than "Sprout Speed"? Where do I see the actual sprout speed? That says 1.7 minutes, but they seem to grow back much faster.
maybe because you collect the men eater plant or w.e is called
because that one have a chance to spawn more plant
farming "evo" upgrade for gaming is actually just speed - which doesn't get updated in the gaming UI. one of those things we use an external tool to determine how fast it actually is - if you are interested, see the sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YBZq9t_XTnhxN-Cz0P1VMTNsZs_gAM4jFyMB3n7lBi8/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259
only 1st item in card loot menu is affected by MK for any drop - which should include quest items
DR should help but i don't have 100% verification on this
quest items for GS are just plain painful no matter what - no easy way around it
you are 100% on this? cause this isn't the reason i know to do sailing on SB
Does the import json not work for everyone else? On mine it complains that my cell has over 50K characters?
Kattlekruk get fucked you lil shit 😛
welcome to w6
i haven't had issues using the sheet. you are making sure to follow the instructions where it says to just click once and paste - cause the way it parses the info i'm guessing can be fussy
Gracias
waiting on response from xiepo - but captain peptalk should be account wide. the reason you do want to do sailing on an SB is due to the family bonus talent not the peptalk one
but the benefit can be pretty minor which is why people just ignore it later on
wait till you reach nightmare
no not really I just heard people saying that it isnt (probably because of the wording) but thinking about it again it doesnt need to specify all characters
that shit really is a nightmare
also isnt the family bonus active anyway? or what am i missing
Is troll armour the first priority in world 5?
lava is very consistent about being inconsistent on how talents apply/wording so just cause it does/doesn't say it - i would never trust it vs what community knows about it
family bonus talents are the worst to explain. such a head ache
it only applies from the character to the character
so SB bonus is for sailing speed - so while you have general bonus thorugh family tab - the increased speed is only applied while you are on an SB with talent leveled
this is why ES have higher +talents to all versus rest of chars
i hope that makes sense
so the family guy talent only applies when you are active?
it only applies for that characters bonus to that character
it doesn't increase account wide bonus
I think I get it but that doesnt sound like an intended feature
depends on how you define 'intended feature'
how player (a) understand talent? how lava coded talent? how lava worded talent?
More like how lava coded it because it sounds like its supposed to be shared by everyone not just the main character
the easiest to see how the talent plays out is on 2 ES - when they are different levels
the higher level ES will benefit from points in 'the family guy' since their level is being used to calculate family bonus
the lower level ES will get 0 benefit from points in 'the family guy' since their level is not being used to calculate the family bonus, so they have no bonus to increase - even if you have talent at same level
Yea that definitely doesnt sound right
like i said, you are making a judgment call/interpretation based on how you think lava meant for it to be
perhaps you are right and lava just doesn't know how to code it properly and we are left w/ janky situation
or maybe he meant for this janky ass setup
we can only speculate
but this is how it works, and how we deal for now
couldve chose a better name for the talent if it wasnt meant to buff everyone
even the icon implies that everyone would be benefiting
(playing devil's advocate) the name still fits though. this character is providing benefit, so this character can get a boost as the source of it
so he is the family guy
again - i'm not making judgment calls on which way the skill should/should not be - cause i would agree with you - it likely should be overall and not janky as is
but this is the system we have and the system we work with
the joys of idleon and #justlavathings and single developer
ya i get that its just fun to speculate sometimes
honestly, my guess is that he just never bothered to code it properly so we just have this stupid way
for most classes it makes minor differences
i mean for bubo family bonus that would be a substantial gain I think if it worked
most important would likely be es bonus
extra talent levels on other classes talents would help a lot more
even if its just like 2 or 3 more
Oh wow so upgrade the talent on second es or second dk is straight up useless?
few more levels for log on logs 
what does that have to do with what he said 
well, he said that the second es (lowered level one) doesn’t benefit from family tab
And I want to confirm that is useless to skill that talent on them
that boost family benefits
ya seems like family guy is dead talent on lower lvl classes
oh yea no point in adding to that talent, you said skilling which is quite confusing
does snapshotting work in bossrooms?
yes
I have my sb active in world 5 today again for a few hours but will be hard this week going to start to heat up allot
nice
whats the best kattlekruk to defeat in terms of key price to drop chance when trying to get its necklace? have a limited amount of keys so i wondered if i should still always try to go for nightmare. and a drop rate of x13
finally got skill mastery and am now realizing the state of my cooking compared to everything else
(like obviously, drop chance wise its always nightmare, but i wondered if a lower one is better when taking key price/ drop chance into account)
use balloons on cooking tbh
the keys are farmable, may as well just do nightmare
i kinda have issues farming them sadly. ig i am doing something wrong there lol
normal is best for key efficiency obviously
will probably need to do that ye
for rift " kill a lava skull on 2 characters" do i just killing or wait for a lava skull to spawn?
how'd you level up mining really quickly
im lv 56 and need 60 for the next zone
other than time candies aswell
i mean... not much too it if you arent candying lol, mine the highest thing you can
aw
i reached 60 on vman cause xp boosts, but if you're actually trying to get the ores vman wouldnt be the one you want there
im doing it bb
Man i wish i had a Vman rn
I wish im dead
I forgot about the mining food

yo why do we want goat for divinity?
so you can sit your characters in lab AND get divinity points/xp
that is the bear
no bear puts them in lab no matter where you are
ohhh ok
and no lab xp that way
just pray to rngesus
In Pong, when using a mac, is there a way to use the arrow keys? Mine do not work, I have to use the mousepad which is not easy.
best way to farm kruk keys?
wurms
active or passive
active
bubo?
Dk
generally unless youre super set on alch, ES is good, DK can also be good
Bubo when you want to cc
cc?
if you want just straight keys and nothing else I'd assume ES would be fastest
ohhh the cauldron thing
cranium cooking
how much
and last time I farmed with dk for statue I thing the gain was the same or dk even had more
I would say you need enough to hit 200+ portal
i mean as long as portal isnt a crazy high level it shouldnt be the biggest issue, i havent farmed em on ES though, only bubo and dk so far
I want to test 1h after grinding my last vials
do it, then we'll know for sure 😄
dmg went up from 10t last time to 700t
You have choco right?
not sure what that is
Choco chip from lab
If you kill crystal monster you have 75% to spawn another from it
That’s why es died
lemme check
i dont
where do i get it
just get lucky in the chip rotation?
Choco chip available in a few weeks I think, don't remember exact day but I think Oct
its in 25 days according to the wiki
what should I do if I'm struggling to get enough resources for alchemy?
Colossal skill bags are so much more easier than the the lustre ones. I’m glad I checked wiki before crafting lustre
It’s in master guide v2
Heck them w6 bags minus material and food are stupid easy
I haven’t even gotten to the skilling w6 maps yet and I doubt my samples would be high enough even if I did
lucky lads starting to get annoying now :/ lol
clogging up so many inventory slots :S
ive been spreading em out so i dont completely clog 1 char up lol
im prob in the 30s or so rn
Hi bjorn
Hello Reaper
My archer is eitther splicing or in lab so idc if he gets clogged
I think I still have a bit until I have enough damage to push w6
@frank prairie I get that many per day
lidl
📈
Alchemy, and the upcoming endless summoning
Alchemy caps out very quickly xD and endless summoning gonna really depend on rewards it mite just be like arena
Well we dunno
When I reached sky doggies everyone had enough efficiency just get the star sign with a multi tier or 2 in combat mode.
Yeah that’s why I haven’t gotten there yet. My mk is prob at like .5x times lol. My damage so bad
There are 11 ores and 10 printing slots. What ore do y’all usually leave out
Lustre It is then
20* printing slots
I dont have any tools on my second chars
It’s a fact
You can move tools and all good gear for the print
I don’t really need more ore anyways. Not enough liquid to deplete my stash through alchemy
you never not need more ___ (insert any resource)
if you don't got anything to print, print base copper ore, oak log for atoms
there's never a reason not to be printing
its like saying, oh - i'm not a lefthanded person so i'm never going to use my left hand
The tools are easy to make, it’s the levels that’s a pain
why gimp yourself
Sample lustre ore, then equip it as your current print. Delete lustre from samples. Sample all other ores. Lustre has little use, once you have 1050m lustre, delete and never get it again.
I’m printing mats. My yellow mat bubbles are trying to mess up my nblb
@frank prairie give me my 5 bucks
why ar'nt my shrines working?
You got maoi head artifact in sailing?
I just bit the bullet and got all non-trapping non-worship skills to god tool level on all characters.
4k more plunderous kills to go for 100k, a million really is an insane number...
ye3
my damage before was 2mill now it;s 1 mil
Looks like guardevoir showed you what happened since you are on dk. That dmg talent needs you to have 1.5x the accuracy needed for the map you're on to work
sorry can someone explain the math on how this works? shouldnt it be 2.6x speed. not 10x speed?
any tips for Vman on chaotic kattlekruk?
its 1.1^26
not 1.1*26
need to get marble chest 
I'm only goint to make a marble set for my bubo when he CCs/farms cash, everyone else I'm skipping direct to God armor... some day
I keep saying that, I already have the materials, but I'm not on my bubo, so I keep putting it off

on Divine armor but all marble tools, no cash cards. On my currently active SB in skilling preset. I need to pump my Gmush numbers
you said skilling is a pain on other characters, but do you at least have all passive cards from skilling mastery?
Yeah I do
I just 4 starred everything up to what my vman has 100% hit rate on
Except alien logs
woo another one to 99%
Screw alien logs
sounds like a good way to get a splinter in a weird place
It has holes. Also it could be squishy for all we know

some of my current hourly clicks are getting close
feelsgood, right after i purchase the upgrade
something to aspire to
step 1: stop going outside
does that include work? cause I'm in
depends, can u hourly click at work?
I probably could, yes
then work is optional
amen, brother!
That's so bad
Where do you find that
under account on IT
My guy was almost better
you are forgetting the hidden +25% loot and artifact find chance for your entire team from endercaptains
Oh yeah
both ur guys suck, boat speed is too easy to cap and becomes worthless later, u want more loot
I don't even got all islands unlocked man 
or in my case get 11 endercaptains with cloud discovery
only one so far for me
Fuck you 
idk man , i like my guy
with cloud, up to 4 endercaptains
My total bubble is 6.5k
hes fast
I don't so give em here
ready for w8 clouds
guess i only have 8, but only 1 is good (double loot), rest all have cloud discovery
now that is some 3000 iq thinking ahead
today is speedrun and resampling day, but I don't wanna 😭
been like 9 months since i resampled ._.
I just finished resampleing and speedrun can wait
how long would the catchup be for relic at that point
I’ve only done speedrun once lol
I don't like resetting my artifact, so I like to do it all the same day
and monster drops get sampled by VW, obviously
Don’t you lose the bonus anyways?
yeah, which is why I like to do all of my resampling on the same day
and then let them coast for another couple of months
Months? Dang that’s a long time to go without resample
yeah, Sov artifact is 5% per day for 80 days
Someone could tell me the best the best team for the new territories in pet battle? Just got back to the game
there is a strat with trasher, if you have it
been a while since i sampled
same
for unlocking new ones or harvesting spices?
Unlocking
I dont have it
I haven't been able to harvest the last one... 
after level 13 vials in Thread and Nails and GS all the anvil mats, what should I be producing? I can't keep track of all the bits and bobs needed for alchemy and other bonuses
i got all my crafting stuff to 1050m and then started making only thread and nails for bubble clicks
I guess that makes sense
wow, grinding godshard ore card to 3 star takes forevers and a day, huh?
been waiting for a pack and it gives me this i have 2 doots
I just got back to the game, someone could check my IE to Tell me what i should Focus on? Please
I need damage
Is it better to set a minimum chest level in sailing, or just let it get the base chest and rng level ups on that? Farming for Eldritch relics atm
Gotcha. I previously had it at the 1st chest level, but I'll swap it to minimum
tytyty
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I need to lvl this but I can't
this 5 days for a 5% chance at a recipe shit is for the birds 
ye, dont got the atoms l0l, gotta work on my reprints next week
On main
just got E50

