lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[oblique jasper]

That’s fair

[frosty shore]

all good

[frank prairie]

nice

[terse verge]

I believe best i’ve seen is 1:7

[nova lynx]

Noice, the sov climb begins.

[frosty shore]

are you in the map ed?

[frosty shore]

hi ed, happy hour is in 2minutes, i'm not sure if you're in my party already

[frank prairie]

i am im art 6767

[frosty shore]

ah okay

[nova lynx]

1.7K/hr gen honestly is way better than I expected

[frosty shore]

sorry i wasn't sure if you were in or not yet thanks for confirming

[frank prairie]

same

[nova lynx]

Damn wish I saved instead of blowing my 1.2m red essence this morning lol

[teal lynx]

There is a ton of stuff you can do for yourself. Just go through the different tabs

Tbh everything is lacking a bunch
You are missing stamps from W1 Quests for example
And then a lot of them are low level

Then you have stopped unlocking Vials after W2

You can unlock like 12 meals in Cooking (W4) -> Two of the stamps I highlighted will help you with Cooking

And your DK (which I assume you are pushing with) needs basic tools + higher talent levels. Feels like you never used a single book

Edit: I didn't even highlight your Alchemy bubbles here. Just don't neglect it :)

[nova lynx]

How are you pushing with DK but neglecting bubble 2 for warriors and not your other classes?

I'm impressed you are where you are with how much you've neglected a lot of systems.

[teal lynx]

Hovering over stuff gives info, which I'm not sure people know (idk how it is on mobile)
But using that info together with the Wiki is a game changer. For things like the Stamps/Quests I showed (Oinkin in W4 for example) they could also use the Quest Tab IE provides

Sometimes it feels like they just use it to look at the Dashboard and to share it

(This is not specifically against the posted IE above. I see a lot of people. Also I should start doing more Video IE reviews )

[nova lynx]

I would suggest Xayayah's approach of going through every tab/page and seeing what you're missing. You'll learn a lot more about the game and systems imo, but you can always use Scoli's autoreview which will give you a very straightfoward direction/tiered way to work on your account.

[lilac vault]

very much neglect

iirc reccomended max damage for DK clear is 35m?

[nova lynx]

Yeah there is a ton to learn of info to learn from IE + wiki combined. I do wish that there was a bit more linkage on items in IE such as the stamps - if you don't have it, it'd be nice to click it and it takes us to the quest tab in IE that shows how to get it.

[lilac vault]

no post office? at all?

[tiny tangle]

I just started post office last week

[frank prairie]

first one

[tiny tangle]

Yeah I’m not sure. I kinda just stumbled forward lol I wasn’t exactly sure where to invest my time

[lilac vault]

ok respectfully what do you mean you started it last week

[grand scarab]

stacks gettin there, couple more days and i should have at least 1 of em onyx lol

[silent birch]

Why would i want that over 6% dmg ring?

[nova lynx]

6% washes out in the millions of dmg modifiers you get. 6% all stats is strong

[frank prairie]

Total damage % is not the best

All stat is better

[silent birch]

Wait. Do you look at accounts?

[frank prairie]

so if that 8% all stat raises strength by 250 you get a 13% increase over 6

[silent birch]

Ah nice! Dont have that yet and makes sense noe

[frank prairie]

sailing is very big buff of damage

[teal lynx]

Sometimes
Usually I just refer people to the Autoreview ( https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ ), because that does a WAY better job than me and doesn't require me to do work

[frank prairie]

still dont understand how my dk doesnt do at least 500m

[silent birch]

Yesss. Even the early bonusses i got helped insane amounts

[nova lynx]

😦 smol Edvin

[frank prairie]

now this is a good source of damage

[grand scarab]

how the fuck my dk so much higher than yours? lol

[frank prairie]

idk what to tel you

[grand scarab]

so strange

[nova lynx]

you got fibers on DK?

[frank prairie]

oh it was dungeon build

[grand scarab]

lmao

[grand scarab]

much better lol

[frank prairie]

dont you love fighting mobs with 71T hp

[silent birch]

Thanks. Been using that for a week and it helped a lot. But at some point the number of optimized things went down from 2 out of 23 to 1. And then i felt mocked

But i also learned that i started sigils way too early

[tiny tangle]

I ignored the mailbox til sometime last week

[frank prairie]

pretty close fight tbh

printer go brr is such a scam

do i start depositing statues

or wait for the 27 maxed vials

[nova lynx]

How many statues you gonna dump? I'd prob be more inclined to wait for vials cause so many onyx

[frank prairie]

vial is 82%

[nova lynx]

how many 'easy' vials left?

[terse verge]

The other question that is often missing is what % is your startue bubble

[signal dome]

pretty good?

[frank prairie]

0 lmao

all mob prints ...

[frank prairie]

no

[nova lynx]

how you lower vial count and no more resources? 😦

[frank prairie]

mob prints just scuk

[terse verge]

Good is a relative term. If you ever ask in future, realize that you need context. We have no relevant information to base this judgment on given the small snippet you gave. It could be amazing or terrible - but no one could properly tell you.

[frank prairie]

whats best upgrade now

top right seems pretty strong

[nova lynx]

Top left for 3rd killroy

[signal dome]

just rebirthed

was on MF9

[frank prairie]

are those op?

[nova lynx]

It's a 3rd run every week 5ever

[terse verge]

Rebirth has 2 different meaning for owl/roo. I hope you mean megafish

[nova lynx]

when you hit it

[frank prairie]

oh

[signal dome]

yeah megafish

[signal dome]

@terse verge

[terse verge]

In that context, your multi was pretty small and you likely are losing out on investing points. Up to you whether or not you care

[frank prairie]

idk how my bubo doesnt get mk in w6

[nova lynx]

@frank prairie this is my target order for hitting 27 vials

bubo dmg sucks

[signal dome]

fr

[frank prairie]

i have no one else to push with they are rift merhcanct rn

[nova lynx]

put bubo in rift

[terse verge]

Your points simply determine how efficiently you want to hit the soft time cap on roo. Yours are definitely on the low side so you will take longer to get there. Like i mentioned earlier, this is a you choice and simply a truth you gotta swallow/decide to accept

[signal dome]

alr how do i maximize my efficiency atp?

this minigame giving me some good bonuses rn

[terse verge]

Just follow the pin in w1/2. You need to maximize your investing points per reset/megafish

The other part is just rng on shiny fish which you just have to roll the dice on

[frank prairie]

his kph sucks idk why

my sb no mk

oh i was runing midas oops

idk why this is so bad tbh

[grand scarab]

sick

damn, thats insane being able to have 2 statues down at the same time lol, wurms gonna die so quick now

1t in the next day couple days for sure 😮

[nova lynx]

😮 I thought this was lv250 not 225. I need to go book for that lol. Was waiting for sov fury to book to 250

[nova lynx]

Yeah my bubo's kph sucked too. But he was high enough to wear divine scarf #2 which helped a ton.

[frank prairie]

I have divine scarf on lmao

[bleak gazelle]

literally sat here all morning wondering why it wasn't finishing. realized it wasn't being built

[frank prairie]

Nice

[pastel kayak]

Got last night

[bleak gazelle]

time to unlock some more clouds

already eldritch but still that many clouds left!

[pastel kayak]

Not gotten all from that island yet

[proud arch]

Can always come back late xD lots of better out there

[grand scarab]

pog, nslb hit a good stamp for once

[proud arch]

You unable to push it higher naturally ? Super powerful stamp

[grand scarab]

almost done with vials too 😄 i need to go send a w6 td for some souls to fish for that one lol, gonna start pushing for the bugs after i finish rift i think then im pretty much done until i get to turtles

[noble moth]

Should I just do mob loot samples on highest dmg

[nova lynx]

on Vman speedruns

and BM to hold refinery

[noble moth]

I can do samples on vman speedruns?

[simple wadi]

Yep. Take the sample after you use that vman ability to pump up your multikill.

[noble moth]

So everyone else should be doing samples is what they're best at in terms of skilling?

Ah then I should probably save my gems for the double samples

[frank prairie]

Yes arguably the best upgrade you can buy with your gems

[pastel kayak]

Have less then 600 gens now and not getting more now was only getting gems for 12 days

[noble moth]

I've been holding back my samples by that much is crazy to think about

[frank prairie]

You have to do boss runs every day if you want gems but it is very boring

[noble moth]

Went from 2k to 50k

[frank prairie]

300 boss runs = 200 gems

Can do every day

6000 gems a month for free

And usually 200 is the low end

[noble moth]

ah that's not bad I can get more sampling soon then

Just gotta be patient ig

[frank prairie]

Most the time you need to run Kruk a lot anyway since his drops are very rare

[scarlet geyser]

I know I should be talking more in #endgame-chat-w7🐟 but I feel more comfortable here - I need to get 2 more characters to Lantern Spirits for the next constellation.

[frank prairie]

Best sparkle obol in the game

[noble moth]

Ah then I'll do kruk soon

[frank prairie]

Then get them there

And I think for that constellation you need to to be at mama trolls

[scarlet geyser]

Pretty sure you don't need to unlock that portal - you just need to get to the portal itself.

My BB is one map before, my ES2 is still...3-4 maps before.

[frank prairie]

And you did it?

Need to work on that then

Hopefully get my summoning to get the level shiny multi

[scarlet geyser]

No, I mean, I am still working on getting to the Lantern Spirit map with those two.

My ES1 is past it and my Vman can speedrun cheese his way there.

IIRC, you need to do it on 4 chars?

[nova lynx]

How do you even do that constellation? Just straight up wait forever?

I will test on my DK to see if you get credit w/o going through right portal

[grand scarab]

jesus, orb breaking 600s now 😮

[sick sentinel]

the lanterns one? start the constellation, kill all mobs without getting touched, run to the rightplatform

[nova lynx]

Oh I thought you couldn't kill them LOL

[nova lynx]

You get credit just by touching portal

[sick sentinel]

nah its fine to kill after the start of the challenge, gotta stand in the top left platform and get the popup message first

[inner walrus]

almost mid game

im at 502000m

[grand scarab]

hell, 1t still early game lol :S

[humble schooner]

In what world am I getting 10k + spices? I'm pretty sure I'm following the guide? (And this is a w4 spice)

[frank prairie]

Worms orb is crazy

[pastel kayak]

Very cold here

[frank prairie]

Now you can active with your dk

[frank prairie]

Can you kill them?

Or not allowed to kill the enemies

[nova lynx]

You can kill them. Got it done ezpz

Vman was most annoying lol, but just had to wait for void radius

[frank prairie]

I mean I don’t know what else I need to unlock in constellations tbh

I got the dr rate one

And the summoning boost

[dire anvil]

Just got my last ancient artifact 🙂

[nova lynx]

A5, A7, B6. I'm pushing for A5/7 first. B6 is 3% MK per tier. A5 is 20% golden food bonus, A7 is 25% dmg lol.
IDK if any of these are good - assuming 3% MK per tier is good for ES and might outscale a fight AFK % for gmush farm? A5 if multi is nice but might get drowned out by feasty if not. A7 is 🤷 jsut cause I'm not super dmg yet.

Oh A3 is +15% OG chance as well

🤔 looks like if you max all constellations and get all star signs you only have 3pts spare but the entire right side of Seraph isn't opened yet. Guess that drops with W7?

[zinc torrent]

That's my guess; I still haven't unlocked Sir Savvy, The Big Brain, Power Bowower, Intellistooge, or Lotto Larrinald.

As those all seem useless to me, I was thinking of saving all my remaining points for the B and S star signs.

[coral pecan]

suggested snail encouragment to get him to level 20

[nova lynx]

Yeah there's a handful I skipped in chronos/hydron that I think I'll leave unobtained unless some guide tells me to use them

[peak verge]

Outside of the gem shop, can you only get extra obol inventory from the salt lick?

[snow spruce]

Seriously man, what is the drop rate on sovereign artifacts.. I got up to snowy south of sovereign, but snowy south itself feels impossible to get lmao

[vagrant plover]

put a forager pet above it

[humble schooner]

oh shit, I've lost the plot

still tho, 9M/hr with 1.25M/spice. Thats just over 7 an hour

[junior dune]

Borgers get 10x power with a forager above them

[humble schooner]

Not counting the converter

[junior dune]

That's why they are good, otherwise they are near useless

[humble schooner]

Yea, I know massive blunder lol

[junior dune]

Each additional spice takes more time so you won't get nearly that much

[humble schooner]

^^

And thats like 60 days

[junior dune]

The way you get those jewels are through the gemshop usually

[humble schooner]

ahhh, I see

[junior dune]

The W6 jewels are essentially straight up impossible

[humble schooner]

Thanks for the knowladge!

[peak verge]

Anyone knows when this is getting fixed?

[grand scarab]

lol

[peak verge]

Two gold dice at 17% get combined like 9/10 times but these blue pieces of shit haven't copulated in like 15 attempts with 14%.

[grand scarab]

rng do be rng sometimes

[humble schooner]

That's just how rng works sometimes :/

[peak verge]

If only the frag cost wasn't double for no reason.

[humble schooner]

Yea, obols are quite painful

Active farm on snails gave me quite a lot tho

[peak verge]

Trust me I've been active farming... went from cursing dice for not dropping, to cursing them not combining.

[humble schooner]

hahaha

[peak verge]

The fact that I need 3 for family and 1 for personal with this type of bullshit luck makes me straight up wanna quit.

[humble schooner]

Nah man, it takes a bit of grind but it's so worth!

All in due time!

[peak verge]

Outside of the gem shop, can you only get extra obol inventory from the salt lick?

[humble schooner]

Yup

Acording to the wiki at least

"You can increase the size of your Obol storage with Salt Lick upgrades and Gem Shop purchases. "

[grand scarab]

kek

[humble schooner]

Nice :D

[peak verge]

Gib 🔫

Let me hold like 2 more and grab some statues, I'll give you back the dr afterwards.

[grand scarab]

lol

[peak verge]

Pinkie promise.

[humble schooner]

Do you have the dr pack?

[grand scarab]

ye

[humble schooner]

It's so good B)

[peak verge]

I give up, fuck this. I'll come back to obols in october after choccy.

[humble schooner]

Oh shit

you did it without choccy?!?!

:-:

[peak verge]

Hardly my choice... if I had the alternative, I truly wouldn't have. Imagined that getting onyx would've went a bit more smoothly.

[humble schooner]

You can buy from the gem shop...

Kinda rare ig but

Surely better than doing it without choccy all togehter??!

[peak verge]

1/22 is not an odd I'm willing to go for. Already spent most of my gems on getting jewels for lab.

[grand scarab]

not all that far off, youll have it soon

[humble schooner]

fair enough ig, that's what I did... But October is not to far away anymore I guess

[nova lynx]

I'll statue farm w/ fresh chocoin october as well

[frank prairie]

4.5% isn’t too terrible

Also you can get other very important chips

[grand scarab]

so glad im almost out of permanant upgrades to buy so i can gamba chips and be done spending money some day lol

[frank prairie]

You don’t have all charms

[humble schooner]

^^^^

[junior dune]

Show auto review

[grand scarab]

cba pulling it up rn, about to go to work, i have most all of that bought though, except like dungeon credits and im only half done with teleports lol

all my gems were going to lab jewels and the event so the perm upgrades slowed down a bit :S. back on that now though lol

[arctic aspen]

should i try getting ancient fauxory tusk or get artifacts from other islands?

[frank prairie]

I’m getting all pristine charms before the account upgrades

[junior dune]

Wow you really meant all then, impressive

[frank prairie]

Ancient

[peak verge]

Tusk first.

[arctic aspen]

thanks

[pastel kayak]

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/ @frank prairie my sailing ok i changed what islands they going to now

[peak verge]

I find it eternally comedic that I unlocked eldritch artifacts, got tusk and then haven't found a single artifact since.

[frank prairie]

Do minuboss it’s not hot anymore

[frank prairie]

It’s okay I unlocked sov and those artifacts don’t exist

[peak verge]

Damn, you too?

[frank prairie]

I got 2 today but those odds are rough

I desperately need turtle vial

[nova lynx]

Tuttle isn't enough to save sov after the first like 3 or 4 islands 😦

[uncut cedar]

Sorry for the necro, but where in the wiki does it explain this?

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Laboratory#Jewel_Spinner_Rotations

[noble moth]

Is it normal that I've never done all the maps on my vman but now it has the same maps unlocked as my es?

[vagrant plover]

yes

[noble moth]

so it's a normal feature that's meant to happen?

[vagrant plover]

yes

[grand scarab]

it happens after you do a speed run

unlocks every portal up to your furthest pushed character

[noble moth]

okay thank you it happened so randomly that it confused me

[uncut cedar]

OK, I read that, but it seems like you know more. My deeper question actually is about Chocco Chip. I can get that without the Jade upgrade, right? But if I get the Jade upgrade am I locked out of future Choccos?

[nova lynx]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Template:Lab_Rotation Go check this out.

[bleak gazelle]

It should only affect these 3 and only if they're in the second slot

[nova lynx]

You can see there are 3 upcoming Choco Chip hits. The first one being 10/16, since there is only one listed on Chip 1 slot, EVERYONE gets this option.

On 11/06, you see chip 2 has two options. The right one (Poker Chip) will be avail to anyone with the upgrade, everyone without will get a 2nd choco chip buying option.

[grand scarab]

for example, youd miss it 11/06 if you had jade emporium upgarde

[nova lynx]

The following week, everyone again gets choco chip option.

[uncut cedar]

Ah, got it. Slightly bizarre, but I get it now. lol

[dawn tinsel]

soon i can unlock tiger god, but what should i do after that? keep my 2nd ES linked to goharut with EXP stance, then rest can do nobi/bear?

[bleak gazelle]

yo theres actually quite a few chocos next year, like every 1.5-2 months, not bad

[nova lynx]

Yeah unfortunately I had to wait a whole year to get one basically lol

[bleak gazelle]

nanochip is still rare af

[uncut cedar]

Yep, been playing for 9 months and this will be my first opportunity.

[nova lynx]

Nanochip was here like a couple weeks ago and I didn't have the upgrade Gonna gamba for it after motherboard I think

[peak verge]

Jfc how did this escape me. I need to stack up for 2 more chocos.

[bleak gazelle]

yeah i don't think i did either

[nova lynx]

Only thing to pile up is pinion spur, and you can always candy it. Chocos are pretty accessible for how good they are

[pastel kayak]

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/ @bleak gazelle my sailing ok I changed it this mornin

[uncut cedar]

But you can get dups as well, so it sucks.

[nova lynx]

Yeah but that is waiting until March 12th for nanochip to be in cycle again, lol. 😦

in 2 weeks I'll get Pyrite Rhine gem, then buy out all my remaining gems if I can keep up with daily bossing. Then back to w6 plots + sneak charms. Then it'll prob be gamba time on chips

[grand scarab]

think im basically out of packs at this point outside of lava supporter and dungeon pack x.x

new pack asap

[nova lynx]

no lemme catch up first pls

(on the good ones)

[grand scarab]

about to buy the lava supporter one just so its out of the rotation lol

[peak verge]

daily bossing?

[grand scarab]

gotta do your 300 boss kills every day for gems

[uncut cedar]

Oh, I didn't notice I needed 200k of those!

[peak verge]

was it not 300 weekly?

[nova lynx]

Can do 300 kills/day for chance at gem drops. Usually can pick up at least 200 gems.

[grand scarab]

nope, resets on your daily reset timer

[bleak gazelle]

Should send some boats to Cloud 5 for this island. The first artifact there is good for your samples

[nova lynx]

Yeah the rest are much easier assuming you've done some effort on cooking/breeding to have access to Cheese and ~~Diamond ~~Beach Docks.

[grand scarab]

i need to start making those so i can buy more chocos when they come around lol, swapping all the time is for the birds

[nova lynx]

How do I get 2m PVC pipes in two months? I feel like I don't build anything fast enough w/o putting all 10 chars with 3x on it lol

[bleak gazelle]

have you respecced all your anvils to full speed?

[nova lynx]

No cause tbh everyone needs better monster mat bags 😦

[nova lynx]

All of the higher tier mat bags destroy me. But maybe I can go burn green salt on the other 7 or so chars that need bags.
Starfire - not burning nullo salt.
Magma - don't really wanna farm that many hampters but I guess it'd be the best bang.
Marble + Godshard - not even close to attempt those.

[dawn tinsel]

you dont have to

i max w1-3 with only void mat bag

[bleak gazelle]

marbi mat bag doesn't exist

it can't hurt me

[nova lynx]

but what is your anvil capacity with only void mat bag?

if you have like 0 pts in cap and all in speed

[bleak gazelle]

if you're going full pvc then it probably won't matter if you're checking once a day

[nova lynx]

Yeah true for PVC. Guess I don't want to respec or worry about cap later after PVC are done though.

[dawn tinsel]

wait why anvil cap has anything to do with upgrading anvil upgrades did i miss something

[bleak gazelle]

can also just throw more levels into mat cap stamps

[nova lynx]

Not talking about anvil upgrades. Talking about anvil production items lol

Scolibot not letting me

[dawn tinsel]

oh you're different person from the one who posted IE earlier here

[nova lynx]

Yes I am

[bleak gazelle]

here's my 2nd dk with void mat bag and 0 points spent

[uncut cedar]

Scolibot?

[bleak gazelle]

i'll probably throw some in there because i occasionally go 2 days without checking

[nova lynx]

I'm not worried about my people with magma bags but I'll reset my current DK and see what it looks like.

[nova lynx]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[uncut cedar]

Oh, I never heard it called that. Wondered if he made something else awesome. lol

[pastel kayak]

Just got @bleak gazelle

[dawn tinsel]

wait while we're on anvil topics, do i want to respecc all my anvil points into speed once i unlock all the mats which is lv70 anvil?

[nova lynx]

Damn I feel abused ace. This is with a starfire bag. Also how did you get 20 more pts than me?

[bleak gazelle]

more smithing levels?

[uncut cedar]

But I still don't understand the comment that the bot won't let you.

[nova lynx]

Oh yeah you get them out of smithing LOL.

[bleak gazelle]

might not be useful now, but will be soon 🎉

[nova lynx]

I'm just commenting that scoli suggests I waste my guilded stamps on other stuff "first"

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, most people will have already gone full on speed or maybe like 80/20 speed/cap

the speed will typically outweigh the xp if you're on triple thread, especially since you just need so many items if you want to eventually max vials

[nova lynx]

Yeah I think I'll go for vials whenever I can magma+ bag everyone

[dawn tinsel]

mhm ic

[nova lynx]

Thread sounds like a lot of watching or a lot of cap

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like you need to work on carry cap stamps too

[nova lynx]

rip I put 50pts into cap and the rest into speed and barely upgraded from what I had. Gotta look into other sources 🤔 smith is 400/400, my bubble is behind yours but not atrocious.

Mat cap stamp and glass shard both only work with guilded stamps now

I'm impressed your speed is almost 5x mine at base. Aah there's a stamp for that. Ok now to go buy a bigger ore bag to smash this into the ground

[bleak gazelle]

i could probably throw some more levels into it too

[nova lynx]

Man now I'm just confused. mine was lv80 to begin with lol

[bleak gazelle]

oh you know what

that's probably the biggest increase

[nova lynx]

Yikers. Yeah probably.

[proud arch]

Bubbles huge once you start getting clicks on it

[nova lynx]

a fat, dull one for me lol.

Bubble is already in clicking range.

[proud arch]

adds up quick i was where you were maybe last week

[dawn tinsel]

can't u just use any +% mat cap like rucksack and starsigns, that way u prob safe some mats than crafting a bigger bag mats

[nova lynx]

I don't print 1b per cycle though

[proud arch]

i have to use 2 iron

[nova lynx]

If I am on vman printer go brr I can do it with 2 irons in slot. Otherwise it's like 56m/hr per slot normal lol

[proud arch]

just started this a couple days ago with 2 as well and its huge

194m and a 212m for me for iron

[nova lynx]

Yeah I shot this up to 1b real quick the last two days since you told me about it. My trapping output on tuttles went up like 20-30% in that time too

[proud arch]

huge

once you start getting clicks its gonna skyrocket

[nova lynx]

Also went and gave everyone royal traps finally. 1b tuttle vial isn't so scary anymore.

[proud arch]

i look forward to turtle its so good

[peak verge]

were royal traps the last tier?

[nova lynx]

Royal traps are the first to give highest trap count

[peak verge]

ah

"oh hey, these don't seem so bad. What about meat-..."

[nova lynx]

Yeah my green salts take so long to rank up that if I don't make a move on whatever needs green salts early on, they're gone to the pink machine lol

[bleak gazelle]

you want some?

[proud arch]

have you started atom pushing for 80% on sampling bubbles yet?

you mite be able to just print this

[nova lynx]

Per scolibot I am starting to move into the 80% push. That one is gonna hurt.

[proud arch]

Atoms help a lot

Just do the cheap ones first

Is best are easy and huge

Worth slow printing void as well

[nova lynx]

Yeah I'm glad I can print like 330 an hour cause thats how much most of these easy bubbles cost

[proud arch]

I pushed void to 170 that way over a week

[nova lynx]

Void has always been slow cooking

The atoms are too expensive on void for me to atom it though

[proud arch]

its why i let void get printed xD

[zinc torrent]

once i get the equinox bubble is there any benefit to chem plants?

[proud arch]

save the atoms for ironfish and permigreen

[proud arch]

they are huge for nugget progress

they are vital for growth when you pop t5s its a whole day of progress each one

[zinc torrent]

oh thats awesome

[nova lynx]

Aah damn it. I removed all scarabs when I reset trap cause I forgot they were neded for premigreen.

[proud arch]

gotta get em at least to click range for atoms

[zinc torrent]

I just wasnt sure if i was supposed to hang onto them or use em once fully grown

[nova lynx]

Yeah I just completely forgot about the bubble.

[nova lynx]

is worth popping at t5 to give a full reset on evrything. So you can clear nuggets/squirrel/sprinkler/log then pop a t5 chem and it'll max it all out again

[proud arch]

can always get it next cycle after a few more call me ash upgrades

[nova lynx]

Yeah after I pull the next round of traps I'll reset one of them to scarabs. I gotta get someone printing this tangled cord for ironfish though. That and PVC will be the death of me

[proud arch]

just remember to disconnect vials when you get close

cheese that upgrade 😛

[nova lynx]

?? What vial do I disconnect?

[proud arch]

from lab

[terse verge]

Vial doubler (near middle)

[nova lynx]

Aah just basically trying to nerf the bubble cost reduction effect when on the edge of atom range until you pump it up some. gotcha

Honestly forgot that lab node existed.

[frank prairie]

Bottom right doubler is in shop soon right?

[nova lynx]

end of Oct

[uncut cedar]

Wait, why are we disconnecting it?

[proud arch]

makes this half as good so stuf enters atom range easier

like if your at 85-90m it will cost 100m when you disconnet

[uncut cedar]

Oh. Interesting. Thanks.

[solar seal]

(hypothetical #s so ymmv)
let say orange bubble costs 16M materials.
if i go on a non-warrior, disconnect lab node - i can push it to 100M cost which allows me to use boron to use atoms to upgrade - a few clicks, and now i can boron click w/o the gimmick

the trick is handy for those very hard to gather materials such as spices (i.e. diamond chef), bars (i.e. molto loggo), etc.

[drifting coyote]

will keep that in mind for the inevitable carpenter grind

[uncut cedar]

Do I need 100m spices before I can atom the diamond chef?

[drifting coyote]

yes, bubble needs to cost 100mil resources to be atomable

[solar seal]

yellow bubbles will only benefit from vial disconnect - but same gimmick applies

[nova lynx]

NBLB will carry this for you. I'm at a point where I literally cannot level diamond chef even with 90% bargain tag

[solar seal]

before then. its that your atomic NBLB hits it - why you should keep track of which yellow bubbles are eligible to be hit and make sure diamond chef is always in the running

[nova lynx]

And I don't use this spice for anything else besides hoping I can bargain tag it one day 😦

[frank prairie]

When can I get a 1b print

500m is too little need more atoms

[vagrant plover]

you can atom the 2nd bubbles every day and the 3rd ones for red and purple with that

[frank prairie]

I’m trying to atom lary

[vagrant plover]

even just those is a big help

[frank prairie]

Very expensive

[vagrant plover]

makes sense

i agree i can only use a few clicks a day on it the rest are put into first 2 bubbles

[pastel kayak]

Sent al boats to that island now had it unlocked already

@bleak gazelle what best class to have active at walking sticks?

[bleak gazelle]

walking sticks? for what

probably ES

[vagrant plover]

FINALLY

[pastel kayak]

I need them

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, definitely ES. I would go to Wood Mushrooms

[pastel kayak]

Not sure if allowed to leave laptop on while not home today

[teal brook]

or candy them at nutto

[proud arch]

time to try and see if i can do 500 quickly at sky doggies

[pastel kayak]

Have my es active for a few hours mum said can leave laptop on today

[teal brook]

dont forget to not let him stack inventory full of the bnase drops so game lags out with 2fps

[cyan mantle]

Hello guys

[frank prairie]

Now sov time

[pastel kayak]

Already did it so not get them

[vagrant plover]

sneaking is far away from that my friend im safe for now

[pastel kayak]

@frank prairie I got today

[pastel kayak]

I have auto loot

[cyan mantle]

The artifacts I do and don't have is incredible

[frank prairie]

Get more

It’s literally like 1-2% for base artifacts

Missing the divinity one

[cyan mantle]

I can't unlock the new islands

[frank prairie]

You are missing one before the candy island

Go back and upgrade you ships

[cyan mantle]

I got it now

Ships

[scarlet geyser]

Botes...

[cyan mantle]

Boats

[scarlet geyser]

So, I believe the 2.4k atom upgrade is a major one to aim for?

[dreamy merlin]

very important to get 1 lvl

[scarlet geyser]

Well, time to keep saving atoms then.

[proud arch]

Got to 453 in a hour at least

[spiral path]

I'm about to do 100k ladles for equinox, the question is, what should I be cooking? I do not have W6 spices, as I have not done those fights yet

[plush gale]

Anyone got any tips for Gaming Poing? Can't even get close to the achievement, whenever I get even close I get a lagspike and lose.

[proud arch]

Do it on mobile and do what you gotta do de lag your phone

[proud arch]

What's stopping you from doing the fights ? Pre much send either efficiency or meal cook stuff to then re ladle all your other foods after xD

[stuck river]

get a better one

[spiral path]

lazyness on the fights, mostly

[plush gale]

I try for an hour, whine like a bitch, and instantly clear it right after, classic

[solar seal]

i did all the cooking speed (6), cannoli (1), skill efficiency (3) for 10

[scarlet geyser]

I am almost at 140 Shrine levels...

138/140.

And one of the shrines is only 800 hours from leveling. The other one still has about 18k hours to go...

[frank prairie]

Chicken

More chicken = more cooking speed

[scarlet geyser]

Wonder what the next Equinox Dream to go after will be for me...

[gusty hollow]

What i up in my bm skills?

[scarlet geyser]

Maybe it's about time I start saving Double Ulti Cogs, just for this...

[proud arch]

If you got trasher it's only a couple minutes a fight from my experience

Just need tsar procs

[proud arch]

Put both Squires onto purple cogs and it's pre quick

Assuming you reach 1 cog a tick

[scarlet geyser]

I...am not sure I reach that yet.

I also need to have enough cog inventory space :p

Yeah, only have 39 cog inventory spaces. I need 48. And I don't have enough mice.

[spiral path]

I need to sample the frisbee. Need to do it soon, so I can get to stacking artifact bonus again

[scarlet geyser]

Might also want to pull my Vman out, just to try and get that Lucky Lad...would probably take a couple months before I get lucky enough to get it.

....what would be the best way to try and get the Lucky Lad? What enemy?

[stuck river]

Holy shit

[proud arch]

Gonna have to give up some cogs xD

[proud arch]

Gz

[scarlet geyser]

Goddammit.

[stuck river]

People often say dreadlo/gshard dr

[scarlet geyser]

Now that is lucky...

[stuck river]

Although I recommend boss farming(?)

[scarlet geyser]

Ah, right.

Maybe I can get lucky with it if I pop some candies while leveling my skills on my Vman? I'm falling well behind in that front.

[barren shadow]

lucky guess you lost your luck for the next century

[stuck river]

Probably that's how bjorn got his

[scarlet geyser]

Alright. I will have to see what I can get these days.

[spiral path]

I got lucky with Tropilogs, I burned several days worth of candy on Dreadlo/gshard, I want to say it took like 12 hours on tropilogs. Granted, it's all RNG anyways

[stuck river]

It is indeed rng lmao

[spiral path]

and now I have 72 Lucky Lads... and 2 Luckier lads + 2 Divine Scarves

[stuck river]

what

I got 4 in total

[spiral path]

yeah, I've had soo many Lucky lads to drop so far

226, by my counting

[frank prairie]

Congrats now your account is still better than mine

[vagrant plover]

whats the first thing to do in farming unlock OG?

[frank prairie]

I got 4 lucky lads last night from cc

[frank prairie]

Yes

[vagrant plover]

ugh i havnt gotten anywhere with it gonna have to wait until lvl 25

[stuck river]

4?

[frank prairie]

After og I think land ranks are next big push in farming

[vagrant plover]

then farming will actually be fun

[frank prairie]

Ask @strong shale if the farming with land ranks is fun

[vagrant plover]

some 100k OG sounds great

[solar seal]

land ranks catapults you to 120/160 crops where farming speed starts to go brrr cause it becomes much easier to get to super gmo 100k stacks

but getting to 61 crops will still be quite a chore

[broken prawn]

So just got to world 5 like a week ago, any tips on what to focus rn

[solar seal]

divinity. see the 2nd 📌 for helpful info, particularly a link to the divinity primer

its that time again folks - remember, your DR might have dipped and you could've lost some damage

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[proud arch]

i cant wait for that to happen

[gilded elk]

How is artifact rarity rolled? I might be able to push to rift 31 for eldrich artifacts.
Does the game first check for highest rarity, if it fails, then follows the next, etc.? And once the rarity has been set, ir rolls randomly between all available artifacts?

[solar seal]

you can't get a rarer tier unless you have the one before it

[stone kayak]

i really need some help with my Bubo build, i cant seem to do enough damage to handle w5 boss mobs at all, im pretty maxed out where i can be so im not sure where else to invest time

[solar seal]

what's your current sheet damage and max level of books from talent library?

[stone kayak]

good resource to get the sheet damage? and i think mine maxes at 155 rn

[solar seal]

sheet damage aka character sheet - i just mean to press "I" and tell me what the number says

[stone kayak]

i mean, here it is

[scarlet geyser]

Uh...what is that weapon?

[stone kayak]

the stingers

[solar seal]

so 2 factors: before bubo gets 200 tenteyecle through talent library + other talent boosting bonuses, bubo's AOE capability is much worse off and less reliable since your CD procs aren't as potent/predictable. on top of that, your damage is on the low side. we've only had a few people come through who will 1st clear kruk with bubo and its minimum 50M+

[stone kayak]

my main ES also cannot do it, let me get the stat sheet for them...

[solar seal]

if your ES is in similar range, you should be able to kill - if you can't - it means your talents are underinvested

can you SS your 4 talent pages?

[stone kayak]

working on it

[errant pond]

If this is your ES damage you should be very close to beating w5 boss, i beat him with similar lvls

[stone kayak]

i dont even get close, he heals to full before i can do more damage and cant kill the moles fast enough to matter either

[errant pond]

First glance is to reset talent points, get higher lvls on your attacks (volcano, meteor, 5th ES ability) and not spread your points out that much

[solar seal]

you need to use your talent library and get the following booked to at least 130+ (not in any particular order)
tab 1: talents 2, 5, 10
tab 2: talents 3, 6, 7, 8
tab 3: talents 2, 3, 4, 10
tab 4: talents 1, 2, 3

[stone kayak]

the only reason i did was because they were all maxed out and i wanted to use some of the secondary stats for when afk for other characters

[errant pond]

When i beat him i focused on the moles and attacked the boss whenever the moles werent close to it

Takes a bit of micro but it should be doable given your lvls & stats on first glance

[errant pond]

Whats your max lvl for books from the library?

[stone kayak]

155

[solar seal]

at 30M+ dmg, ES doesn't need to micro waves if your talents are strong enough and invested

[errant pond]

Just lvl up all your offensive abilities where possible, respec so you’re not spending points on talents that dont increase damage

[solar seal]

when i killed kruk 1st time on my ES, i was ~35M on full auto with most my main skills ~140

[errant pond]

Also do you have any easy alch mage bubbles that you’ve neglected that could push your damage up a bit?

That might be enough to push you over the edge to just kill the boss

[stone kayak]

unsure, my alchemy was neglected up until about a month ago becuase i didnt understand it nor did i understand how to properly 3d print

[errant pond]

Just scroll through the bubbles and see if there’s any that you can lvl quickly/right now that help with damage

[stone kayak]

let me get what books i can, i dont have many checkouts rn

[errant pond]

Just purely based on stats and levels you should be able to beat the boss very soon if not already

Maybe even getting another +6% damage ring could do the trick

[stone kayak]

i have no where near the florbos to get another ring

[strong shale]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

🚫 Lowgun [⚙4⃣] - Free 2 Pay, you need to wait 5 seconds to use that command again.

[strong shale]

nani

[icy stone]

lol

[solar seal]

lava said 'no'

[icy stone]

when is this guy updating gear1 its been like 2months

@strong shale are you actually f2p??

[solar seal]

@icy stone read it again

[icy stone]

oh

its been a long day

[icy stone]

ruby when

[crystal latch]

im very far from it i think

im still on skill mastery on rift

[gilded elk]

Yes, but that's only for the specific artifact or all the artifacts in the island? In other words, it is theoretically possible (extremely unlikely, ofc) to find base, then ancient, then eldrich, then sovereign of one artifact without having even smelled the base version of the other artifacts?

[solar seal]

its for each individual artifact. so on final island, i've seen folks with base version of 1 lantern with sovereign of another. each artifact must be found in order base > ancient > eldritch > sovereign. but multiple artifacts on an island don't interfere with each other. so while 1 may be on sovereign, another can even be on base

[gilded elk]

Great, thanks for confirming it. Rift 31, here I go.
Edit: or not, I don't think I can get a wormhole score of 60 on 1.4B hp monsters with around 500M max dmg.

[stone kayak]

@solar sealis running much better now, at 22B so almost done with him

[proud arch]

Jeez almost done replacing all my br cogs. Lost so much br doing this it's insane xD

[solar seal]

early welcome to w6

[stone kayak]

yay done, now to really soup up my stuffs

[solar seal]

grats on finishing the tutorial /s

[stone kayak]

X.X

[gilded elk]

I recommend first thing to watch griffy 5 mins video on just landing to w6. I wish I had found it sooner.,

[stone kayak]

yea i am actually rn

[pastel kayak]

Did not get much at wood mushrooms in over 4 hours on my es this morning

[stone kayak]

id watched it once, but im rewatching it a bit to make sure

[winter cipher]

I beat kruk with ES at 42m damage with auto attack and my gear was much worse (still is). You must be missing some attack bonuses somewhere or something

[stone kayak]

mostly library it seems

[winter cipher]

yeah I saw the screenshots, you could increase your damage a lot with just a few books

[pastel kayak]

Need to save them more so can upgrade stuff

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @stone kayak now

[stone kayak]

your a bit sol on that one lol, i dont even have all my first 20 green stacks yet lol

[pastel kayak]

I have 75 green stacks right now was 80 at one stage

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @solar seal now

[stone kayak]

sounds like i need to raid your storage then lol

im at 17 rn and should be at 20 in a day or two thanks to my vman

[pastel kayak]

I have doot I got it after I got to world 6

[stone kayak]

i also have doot

[stiff cobalt]

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @stiff cobalt now

[stiff cobalt]

Gl mine is lower than Espy’s lol

I’m at like 8 green stacks

[iron reef]

I have been levelling up my VMan but I don’t get any skill point for the VMan tab… is that normal?

[sick sentinel]

Yes vman tab only gets points through speedrun and the mman chess talent

[stone kayak]

yes, you get skill points by doing speed runs with their 2nd skill

[iron reef]

Thanks heaps! Makes sense

[stone kayak]

and if you use the aoe ability then use the 3d printer attack, it gives monsterous amounts of samples ^-^

[stiff cobalt]

👀👀👀👀👀

[iron reef]

Yep will do, I figured this out a few days ago.

[stone kayak]

i figured it out last week, soooo yea little late to the party lol

[stiff cobalt]

I figured it out just this second

Does it work if you use it and then set a sample too?

[stone kayak]

no needs to be aoe then sample

[stiff cobalt]

Do you gotta be in a speedrun?

[stone kayak]

yes

[stiff cobalt]

Thanks

[stone kayak]

well actually, let me read the ability first

ok confirmed, you have to be speedrunning

[stiff cobalt]

Interesting

Sad that I already did my printer go brr today

[stone kayak]

no not printer go brrr

printer sampling'

[stiff cobalt]

Oh really

Does it only work for monster drop sampling?

[stone kayak]

afk gain rates include the multikill in its factors

sadly yes but its still very worth, went from about 2500 samples of pincers to 65000/h samples

[bleak gazelle]

fucked some of my obol sets, but finally down to just these left for slab

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle did not get much on my es at wood mushrooms in almost 5 hours

[bleak gazelle]

it's a slow grind, especially if your DR is low

[pastel kayak]

Just put my sb active at walking sticks for few hours before gets hot here

[stuck river]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[frank prairie]

i once again have green salts

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @frank prairie now

[haughty yew]

guess who just hit w5

😼

[frank prairie]

someone who used to be mid-late w4

[haughty yew]

You are very correct Edvin

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @haughty yew now

[frank prairie]

okay read the pins and enjoy not playing the game/ playing with 1 person now

should i start buying these isntead of buying pristine charms

[proud arch]

Carry cap would help a lot

[snow dove]

no i swear i didn't spend 100 bucks in arcade again

[proud arch]

Noice

Hope you have stamp already

[snow dove]

:(

not even a pickle

but i got a hat a while ago

still no jackpot either

[bleak gazelle]

hi mel

[stiff cobalt]

Best I could do with your tip

[stone kayak]

thats still super good

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @snow dove Now

[stone kayak]

from my understanding when it comes to monster parts, vman is best always, everything else is usually those that are best at those jobs

[stiff cobalt]

I sampled the next 5 mobs that I wanna greenstack the materials of

So I can wait a few days before I gotta do it again

[stone kayak]

yep, thats how i do it

[stiff cobalt]

ie auto review is still knockin me for my stamps so I gotta work those now

[stone kayak]

but at least now you got the mats for it at a reasonable rate

[stiff cobalt]

My carry cap is the real factor lol

[stone kayak]

yep, so thats what you should upgrade asap

[stiff cobalt]

How are you looking with this?

[tribal snow]

Just unlocked world 6. Should I put everyone in bear?

[stiff cobalt]

Yeah and keep pushing div still though

[native nest]

i hit a 1100 ballpit today it was crazy

[stiff cobalt]

Oh wait

I'm thinking wrong world lol

[bleak gazelle]

nah, kinda depends on where he's at with div

[stiff cobalt]

I have all in bear except 1 purrmep, ES is on goat with arctis talent link, 1 snake, 1 mantis

[native nest]

does anyone know how to push refinery speed? my shit takes DAYS to level up from 10 to 11 and its kind of pushing my salts factory behind because sometimes i have to wait a day or two for it to rank up before i have more salts to cycle through

[stiff cobalt]

Theres a stamp for it

[bleak gazelle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=refinery (sp|c)

Biggest increase is probably construct mastery from rift

[silver sigil]

hey guys with the moai head when it says any map does that mean a shrine in w5 applies to characters in w4 so as long as a shrine is placed it affects everyone? or does it have to be the same world?

[stiff cobalt]

I should probably be more on top of my tools lol

[bleak gazelle]

before that will be DK level for family bonus, stamp/arcade/vial

[bleak gazelle]

Here's an infographic
https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37

[native nest]

yes i believe so someone told me it is

[stiff cobalt]

Hey for my vman should I use stones for his tools on characters with the right stat?

Like tool his pickaxe with a warrior character

[hybrid halo]

Sigil, stamp, vial, family

[bleak gazelle]

ah, forgot about sigil, though doubt they'll have it if theyre around rank 10

[hybrid halo]

Fair enough

[nova lynx]

Wait are you running bear and camping them on div altar?

[native nest]

yeah im working on my bubo so i can get him on wurms for alchemy max

[silver sigil]

ty both! will try and digest this seems complicated for an eli5 but i am sleepy. i got my carry cap in w4 town and hp+def/attack/levelup in a w5 map while i push, good to know i dont need to keep swapping em to new maps though 😄

[stiff cobalt]

No I am in w6 so I have them out powerleveling rn

[nova lynx]

ok an earlier msg said something along the lines of "Im still working on div" so I got real worried you didn't know what goat did lol

[native nest]

my gf maxed out her alchemy in 2 days when she figured out how to do wurm-bubo strat for alchemy speed CC

[stiff cobalt]

I am still working on div but past that lol

[nova lynx]

this is the way

[stiff cobalt]

I am missing the last 2 gods but idk how important it is to focus that

[bleak gazelle]

simple tl;dr is sailing artifact deals with where you get shrine effects, lab is where you get shrine xp

[native nest]

she had a lot more of an advanced acc to begin with so it was as easy as swapping equpment and puttign the character in the world but i have to grind out the map to get to wurms and i have to get lvl 200 skills for his 3 second cd reduction

[silver sigil]

i have a feeling needing like 14823472 hours to level up the shrines means i dont need to worry about the xp

[bleak gazelle]

time to pump those shrine levels up in construction

[reef ruin]

For world 5 colo. how do you get more points? I cleared all 25 waves and have a min remaining but only getting 1.7mill points. Which only give me 1 gold chest. Anybody can help?

[silver sigil]

i think id need the ancient moai to even have a chance at doing that

[nova lynx]

purely up to you. I'd suggest focusing more on getting someone to lv50 for multitool stamp and everyone else to lv40 so you can go do other things not linked to goat and still make level progress using TranQi style.
The last two gods do not have any linking bonuses rn, but do have blessings still. These being the last two gods means they are the most expensive to level. So early on? Prob not a big deal, but should still unlock them at some point.

[stiff cobalt]

multitool stamp...

[nova lynx]

from div piggy in w5

pls don't neglect it

[stiff cobalt]

I have a guy at 57 div already

[nova lynx]

Go get multitool stamp then

[stiff cobalt]

I wonder if I got the stamp

[native nest]

i have 9/10 characters on goat and in lab slaving away for the next 3 months

[nova lynx]

s3rd to last row

[stiff cobalt]

I put most of my guys in goat/lab and then took like a year break

So I at least got to skip any waiting period lol

[native nest]

lmao

[bleak gazelle]

hey i did that

[nova lynx]

There'll be more lab/goat grind, don't worry

[bleak gazelle]

then i came back and threw most of my folks on omni

[native nest]

whats a good benchmark to take out my characters from lab

[silver sigil]

woodular - 16
isaccian - 15
crystal - 14
pantheon - 13
clover - 12
summereading - 4
crescent - 1

woodular needs like 146k hours, isaccian 84k hours, crystal 48k hours. just seems so impossible to get anywhere close to those without ancient moai

[nova lynx]

probably earliest "good" is lv75

[native nest]

what can i do to increase lab exp per hour

[silver sigil]

oh you edited to say in construction

[stiff cobalt]

Mine are like 100-120 from my "vacation" lol

[native nest]

besides bubo 4th tab skills

[stiff cobalt]

You can get lab equipment drops

[nova lynx]

Pump up your bubo tbh. Get people lab rings + slips. TBH though get your bubo 2x Souped Up Lab rings and he will carry any slackers you have out doing other things (like my Vman who has never touched a tube in his life)

[stiff cobalt]

Laboratory scrubs/Lab rings are monster drops from w4 mobs

[proud arch]

Bubo does work in lab once you get it pumped up

[stiff cobalt]

Think I'ma have to candy my es over to the div stamp piggy

[native nest]

i have to get the recipe.....

[stiff cobalt]

For the upgraded versions

[native nest]

i literally hit world 4

[stiff cobalt]

You can get the normal versions as drops just fine

[native nest]

and ran straight for world 5

[nova lynx]

Then go back and farm them on ES

[native nest]

and now i ran straight to world 6

[nova lynx]

Good time to learn the power of ES for active farming page 1 drops

[native nest]

in 2 weeks i was in world 6 from middle of world 2

all thanks to the summer event and spending some hard earned $$

[nova lynx]

gz? idk what that means except you have a ton of stuff to work on

just don't get overloaded on everything you need to catch up on lol

[native nest]

yeah thats exactly what im trying to say

[stiff cobalt]

I also rushed w6 and now my guys got iron platebodies I gotta work on lol

I candied over to poigu

[nova lynx]

Then don't worry about the lab recipes. But make sure your bubo is booked and labbing up the XP (utilize green tube not purple)

[native nest]

i know, im working mainly on the big boy pant stuff like the mini game mode of each world from w4-6 and kind of taking a step back on everything else rn

[stiff cobalt]

got it

[native nest]

making sure my refinery have prints for them and they are running smoothly without stopping but i keep running out of red salts and have to wait 1-2 days for it to fill rank up bar to get more salts

other than that im just farming skulls on maps for multikill on my ES

[nova lynx]

means you overleveled the orange prob which is fine. just focus on fixing your red rank

and make sure to stop ranking orange

[stiff cobalt]

IE will tell you what to level your refinery to to get it balanced

[native nest]

the only leveled one is lvl 9 red, 4 orange, 3 blue and the rest is 1

[stiff cobalt]

Probably need more red and orange I would guess

red should be constantly getting upgraded

also green

[native nest]

i have prints to support everything just the timing is killing me for the red salts

[stiff cobalt]

Once you get your red salts higher itll feel better

[hybrid halo]

Yeah you need a lot of time and patience

[native nest]

and i worked on my trapping so that everyone has steel traps as well so that when i get a smooth sailing cycle from red to nullo i can then set them to 20 hour traps for those salts as well

[stiff cobalt]

You're already in w6 so theres no rush now

You got time to upgrade all the stuff you skipped

[bleak gazelle]

i wonder how my alt account is looking

[native nest]

yeah but i want more

[nova lynx]

bet my archer is still AFKing at owl

[bleak gazelle]

storage gonna be empty, sad salts

[stiff cobalt]

I've just been slowly going through whatever ie auto review tells me I suck at

Should I turn the rock off when I use gaming fertilizer?

[bleak gazelle]

oof

already missing out on 2 doots

[stiff cobalt]

Your alt has doot?

[bleak gazelle]

what an achievement to come back to

[stiff cobalt]

Oh I see

[native nest]

whats auto review

[stiff cobalt]

It takes the data from your ie and tells you what you're bad at

Just google ie autoreview

[native nest]

give me the link

[stiff cobalt]

mmm

[hybrid halo]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[stiff cobalt]

Ok glad you did it

[toxic saddle]

Welcome back

[stiff cobalt]

I didn't wanna send links lol

[bleak gazelle]

kek

[solid cloak]

What happens when you put points on for example strength wich is boosted by the Vman skill then you switch the vman preset?do that points stay put?

[stiff cobalt]

FR

[native nest]

[stiff cobalt]

Mine was the same a few days ago

mid w2 stamps

[bleak gazelle]

man, i really would have not kept up with this alt if i didn't have ram

[hybrid halo]

Assuming you put the points in on all chars before switching, yes.

[stiff cobalt]

Got it up to late w3 or early w4 stamps rn

[native nest]

bro i have not touched my stamps because they cost so much money

[bleak gazelle]

that's surprising

[native nest]

im working on my book levels so i can get lvl 200 skills

and making bubo money farm

[solid cloak]

So when you switch vmans preset,And the skill cap reduces the points will not reduce alongside it right?

[stiff cobalt]

Man I really want chem plants to happen

[hybrid halo]

DK is better at money farming

[native nest]

yeah but i spec into my shaman/wizard classes too hard on alchemy that all my damage and extra points are in wizard/shaman

because i had 2 ES and 1 bubo i was like fuck it one class at a time

[stiff cobalt]

Whats the best class for farming gmush kills?

[native nest]

so im going to commit to bubo for now then switch to DK later

[hybrid halo]

SB

[bleak gazelle]

lul, guess i got something extra out of 2 weeks afk

[stiff cobalt]

Zaaaaaaaamn huge gains

[bleak gazelle]

[stiff cobalt]

All these missed 0.2% and 0.5% chances for chem plants 😢

[bleak gazelle]

i wouldn't go for .5

wouldn't even save for .2

[stiff cobalt]

I'm not savin I hit it every time I open the menu

[crimson thistle]

are these used in any builds or are they just insta trash

[stiff cobalt]

I would kill for that at my stage in sneaking lol

This is the wrong world chat to ask tho

[bleak gazelle]

i guess maybe if you're xp farming on mastery f0's

[stiff cobalt]

Sneaking going so slow for me

[bleak gazelle]

but that's a lot of inventory space

[silver sigil]

for the love of idleon just let these mfers mutate

[bleak gazelle]

i'd just pick pick pick

get those mutations going

[silver sigil]

thats what i was thinking its only 13.5% chance rn and i only have up to bonsai unlocked

[bleak gazelle]

time to roll

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @silver sigil now

[bleak gazelle]

another sheepie

[stiff cobalt]

Pretty demoralizing

[bleak gazelle]

gimme my frog/pot

[silver sigil]

you can take everything except my 1338 nuget cakes

[pastel kayak]

I gotten 2 of the ram now @bleak gazelle

[pastel kayak]

I will steal everything from your account now

[silver sigil]

everything but my nuget cakes right?

[stiff cobalt]

Need to get my money up for the crop transfer ticket

[silver sigil]

RIGHT?

[stiff cobalt]

I can barely get green money zzz

[pastel kayak]

They will go too

[silver sigil]

how about i let you have ONE so i have the gamer number of nuget cakes?

[stiff cobalt]

I was just thinking about how I wish I could see the ess gain rate for summ and then I found it

[pastel kayak]

Nope I will steal all of them

[stiff cobalt]

You can take mine instead

[pastel kayak]

Will steal everything from your account now @stiff cobalt

[stiff cobalt]

Enjoy

[pastel kayak]

What are you hiding? Cause I think you have other stuff in storage you not showing

[stiff cobalt]

You can pick a tab if you like

I really am not particularly proud of anything in my account lol

[bleak gazelle]

do i sit here for 132k logs if i can only pick up 500 at once

[stiff cobalt]

How fast you gettin the 500?

[bleak gazelle]

i mean they're just chillin on the ground

i should have made chopping bags before i logged onto them

yeah, not worth

[stiff cobalt]

This is not gonna cut it for gmush farmin

[nova lynx]

Any obvious reasons why my DR would be different between yesterday and today? I swapped from a DR build to a MK build to push w6, but back to DR build. I realized w2 boss for me reset, cleared that 5skull.
Got my DR cardset on, boss set (for DR), gear hasn't changed, g. cakes are the same on this guy. Looks like I lost 1.3x which is pretty huge (15.8x yesterday to 14.48x rn). My brain is much help me think lol ignore this i forgot midas i'm dumb

[bleak gazelle]

!weeklyboss

[obtuse orbit]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[bleak gazelle]

oh

[stiff cobalt]

Silly goosey

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-14700113963574774892

[stiff cobalt]

I need to ramp up my sb speed somehow

only 291%

[nova lynx]

hnoestly it'll juice after you onyx w1 statues

getting the like ~6 onyx and dumping your spare like 20-40k feasties you have will boost you

[stiff cobalt]

I feel like onyx statues are out of my league

[nova lynx]

Then be patient until early-mid oct for choco

what is your DR on your DK?

[stiff cobalt]

Idk how to build for dr besides cards, it's only 5.77x rn

[nova lynx]

I start obol farming with like 5x on my ES and maybe 8x on DK first time I threw him at beans. Ended up doing all my obols by the time I onyx'ed power but DK was sitting around 12x when I finished. Now I'm up to almost 16x 😄

Obols are over 300% if you fill out fam + personal

[stiff cobalt]

I did my first active farm last night on gigas

Only got like 10 pop obols though

[nova lynx]

Owl can give you 40% real easy (timewise anyways).
Midas prayer will give 118% base

[stiff cobalt]

I already have owl decently progressed

[nova lynx]

Did you active on ES?

[stiff cobalt]

Yeah

[nova lynx]

Sometimes you do just get bad RNG luck

[stiff cobalt]

I still had space in my obol storage

[nova lynx]

And didn't desync from too many horns on ground?

[stiff cobalt]

I filtered them

[nova lynx]

I had a day or so of bad obol drops which is why I was forcing statues as early as I did

[oblique jasper]

Officially began the statue farm today

[stiff cobalt]

Is there any dr equipment?

[sick sentinel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354
this is the most up to date list of all dr, with a section for equipment

[oblique jasper]

Effaunt helm early on

[stiff cobalt]

Checked my owl and raised my dr from 21% to 30% there

I went to the fishing spot but unfortunately that rude guy lava didnt put any dr in there

[weary acorn]

what does voraci even do

the plant

[stiff cobalt]

Spawns other plants i think

[weary acorn]

it says it grows plants but it doesn't

[stiff cobalt]

It do

Just takes a few seconds

[weary acorn]

wait carp it does

thx

[zinc torrent]

how to get 100% chance offering in divinity

[worldly lagoon]

it's random, every time u buy an offering it has a chance to reset both offering options, usually u cycle the left offering (the cheap one) until the right one is 100%

[zinc torrent]

so just keep spamming it till 100% appears

[iron reef]

I am looking at ie auto review to prepare myself for the onyx statue. What “per tome” means in “minimum 10x drop rate(per tome)”?

[bleak gazelle]

i'm assuming he means this line in W4 Tome

[oblique jasper]

How do I unlock the last 3 lab nodes

Starting from the slab one

[bleak gazelle]

jade emporium

[pastel kayak]

I had a stalker today the stalker is @frank prairie

[oblique jasper]

Edvin a total creep

[frank prairie]

just trying to increase my buildrate

[stiff cobalt]

Zamn

[oblique jasper]

Get more build slots

[frank prairie]

for all the salts i have to upgrade?

[frank prairie]

no point my buildrate is way too fast for my salt production

[oblique jasper]

Dang my salt is really cheap atm

[pastel kayak]

@frank prairie you are a stalker today

[oblique jasper]

Also why are you upgrading boulder, doesn’t poison outdo boulder at higher levels

[frank prairie]

also

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @oblique jasper now

[oblique jasper]

Ah ok

[frank prairie]

i should start getting soon

[oblique jasper]

Gonna open it up and find a bunch of dust and cobwebs

[stiff cobalt]

goml

[pastel kayak]

Keep saving? @bleak gazelle @frank prairie

[bleak gazelle]

i'd save for rank 2 Helium

[pastel kayak]

Not spent any in a while how to tell how many I get a day?

[frank prairie]

is helium a must upgrade?

pretty expensive for me

[bleak gazelle]

IT should be able to tell you, maybe IE too?

[oblique jasper]

How do atoms even work?

[frank prairie]

every 10m material = 1 atom

so when you get a print like this

[oblique jasper]

Do I get to pick and choose what’s converted?

[stiff cobalt]

You can set it to different thresholds up to 1050m

So you can make it so only stuff you have a sh- ton of gets atomized

[bleak gazelle]

first 2-3 levels are probably a "save for" angle, beyond that it'll depend on how fast you're getting atoms, but i would always go for it if you're close

[frank prairie]

will realistically take like 2 days of saving to get

depends on printer go brr tbh

[bleak gazelle]

probably worth

[oblique jasper]

So at what sample log size should I start worrying about atoms?

[rich stratus]

god damnnnn
my prints are not very good

[frank prairie]

thats what gives the good sample size right?

[frank prairie]

do you run these 3 prayers on every char

[bleak gazelle]

part of, yeah

[oblique jasper]

No lab node?

[frank prairie]

need the 1.7x skill eff from summoning

[rich stratus]

yeah my one of my es is getting pops rn

[rich stratus]

yeah i do
and i got royal to lvl 11 cause i was told not to go past that

[frank prairie]

you can go past that if needed but yeah trypically 11 is the range people can get 90%

[stiff cobalt]

Can you reset prayers?

[frank prairie]

i have level 13

no you cant

[oblique jasper]

Print node is one of the first nodes. How bad is your connection range on all other characters If you can’t reach it?

[stiff cobalt]

😮

[frank prairie]

we got the 20x dr on the bubo now my vman prob close to 21

[oblique jasper]

How do you check sample size

[frank prairie]

skill info construction

[rich stratus]

print node only affects people in the lab

[oblique jasper]

Oh yeah I forgot

Oh the struggles of the non dooted

[rich stratus]

:(

[oblique jasper]

I’m at 87%

[frank prairie]

typically ES wants to run hariep and articas (bunny bear) for the log prints

[frank prairie]

1 level of royal sampler

this could skew your results

[rich stratus]

oh ok
i have him on goat rn

if only i had doot

[oblique jasper]

It’s nice

[pastel kayak]

Waiting for laptop to cool down to update ie then I can post the link in here

[frank prairie]

everyone wishes they have doot

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @rich stratus now

[frank prairie]

but doot still doesnt help you be " optimal " at the game

[rich stratus]

im poor
not worth the time lol

[rich stratus]

yeah i know But it allows u to get like 6x prints on every character
refinery and breeding procs
and like other stuff

[pastel kayak]

@frank prairie the stalker today

[pastel kayak]

Time to steal everything from your account now

[rich stratus]

[frank prairie]

welp you prob wont get him unless you spend alot of money

so enjoy being unoptimal like most of us

[rich stratus]

yeah
doot system is kinda dumb

[stiff cobalt]

Seems to be working as intended

Surely it couldn't take that long to catch 3 hermit cans in a row

... Surely

[frank prairie]

use fishing speed items

[oblique jasper]

How good is 4.5k power statues in 12 hours

[frank prairie]

pretty standard with no choco

[oblique jasper]

I have choco

[stiff cobalt]

[frank prairie]

[oblique jasper]

My crystal rate is subpar tho

[frank prairie]

what is it

1/60?

[oblique jasper]

1/93

[frank prairie]

not the best to statue farm lmao

go IE and hover this

[oblique jasper]

I don’t really know what else to do tho